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Skubal One-and-Done in WBC · The 3-0 Take

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
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all things Major League Baseball.
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Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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It all starts right now. Welcome back to the Three O Take
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presented by Schnook Cedars episode 596.
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I'll be your host, Kyle Korner, Me with my coach, Nate Reyes.
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Nate. Looks like I'm bringing the I'm
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bringing the fire tonight. Casey's got a flu game.
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JB is he might be coming from the top ropes tonight.
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I mean, it's it's going to be a good night.
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We're going to be good. We'll, we're going to make up
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for whatever you're battling right now.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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Speaking of battling, you're battling the comments real hard
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right now. I wanted to just cover this
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right off the top. Oh, I don't know.
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I'm in there. No, well, you're I, I, I, let me
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rephrase. I'm battling in the comments on
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your behalf because of this 500 Homer Club controversy that is
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sweeping the nation. I don't know if you've seen it,
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it's all over the news, but Nate.
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He's not not good in those scenarios, you know.
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He said he's not built for it. I don't I, I believe that you
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are. I believe that you are.
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I don't think you give your, yourself enough credit, but I'm
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going to need you at least on in this environment, this setting
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to, to maybe state your case, sort of defend yourself.
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Because I, it's like that meme that I sent where it's the
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soldier just protecting the, the sleeping child from the bullets
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and the knives. That's me in the comments
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because you choose not to dive into that.
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I'm here for. I'm here for sanity, but you
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know what I mean. Sure, yeah.
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But you know, we got to keep this thing afloat.
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So at least now I'm going to give you the opportunity, the
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floor's yours to, to address. It's just the.
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Clock well for hold on. Let me let me preface this by
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saying the the challenge was, if you haven't seen it, I put I
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posted the video. It was to name 10 players all
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time who had 500 homers and Nate cracked He his 10th guess.
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He went nine for 9. His 10th guess was Jeff Bagwell
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with about 5 seconds left. And I had to, you know,
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regretfully inform him that that was not not a pick, that was not
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on the list. So people were saying revoke is
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baseball card. People were accusing us of being
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a general sports podcast that doesn't really specialize in
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baseball, which I feel like is a valid point.
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But the floor is yours. Oh, I don't care.
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All right, so moving on. Couldn't.
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Actually, I would say Nate, I mean, I feel for you.
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I always tell people if you put me on the spot, I might forget
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my name. Yeah, I just not.
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I'm a terrible test taker. I was horrible with tests.
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I'm just not. It's it's not what I'm built
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for. You know what I mean?
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I'd like to think I'm a nice guy.
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So 'cause that's relevant here, yeah, yeah, for sure.
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Like that's, you know, I'd like to, I'd like to think that good
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friend, great friend. So.
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Bagwell's not a bad guess. I I am.
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He was close. It was like it was like I was.
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18 It took you so long to say bonds, though.
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Yeah. Took him to his eighth pick, you
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said, Oh, Bonds. Just doesn't he doesn't count in
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my head. It's fair.
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I disrespect. Well, I mean, even if you took
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away 200 plus homers, I think he still fits the bill.
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Yeah, no, I did. I did have the thought, though.
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I was like, what if we had a segment where we just reached
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out to somebody that dropped a comment, a disparaging comment,
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we'll say, and invited them on. When?
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When? Maybe not a segment on the show,
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but maybe a little like side thing that we did, a little
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content series where we then bring them on.
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We don't tell them what the prompt is going to be and then
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we put them in the hot seat. Yeah, just hit them right away.
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Here's what I'll say. I am also in spring training,
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you know, like I'm, I'm also kind of coming out of
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hibernation a little bit. And it was I, I was watching
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important playoff football and there's a shift.
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There's a shift. The Super Bowl was like a month
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ago. There's a shift out of football
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into baseball and I don't know, I don't really care.
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I just don't care. I don't.
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Care. Maybe some.
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Well, that's not. Going in there, 'cause people
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are mean and I don't, I don't like mean people, you know?
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Maybe some WBC questions. You guys did that at the at the
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All Star game. Ask some people some questions.
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Yeah, people look foolish. That's a great point 'cause we
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asked, We asked one kid, we said.
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And that's a great video. The the people.
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I'm glad how wide is up on the. Yeah, we said 6 inches, he said.
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Five, I'm like, bro, your hand, if you stretch out your hand,
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that's like 5 inches. What?
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What are we talking about? Yeah.
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No disrespect, I mean he might have just been freezing you.
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Know full disrespect 5 inches like if you're saying anything
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north of 12 I'm like OK you you get a pass but I mean 5 inches
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come on. Yeah, yeah.
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Look, something, we're just not test takers, you know what I
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mean? We're good for vibes.
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That's it. We're just, we're just vibe
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people. Well, that's exactly what Terex
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Google is going to be in the WBC, apparently, because he's
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only making one start. The reports came out and they,
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we were informed. We were informed that.
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Well, actually, that's even given him too much credit
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because he said, you know, if it works out, if they advance, I'm
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going to try. It's not even like a hey, I'm
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making my one start and then I'll be there for the finals.
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It's well, if they advance, then I might I might give it a go.
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I might see if there's any any Ubers available because mind
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you, the the finals will be, I'm pretty sure again in my in
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Miami. Mind you, he's in Florida, the
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Lakeland to be exact. Might check to see if there's
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any Ubers, but only if only if there's any available.
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He's not going to stretch himself too thin.
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So yeah, Terry Skubal, big, huge vibes guy is what I'm is what
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I'm gathering from this. But that was the that was the
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latest report. Let's let's clarify the quote.
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If they go to the finals, I think I'm going to try and lobby
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to just go watch and be with the guys.
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I'm pretty sure that's what I mean.
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He has to kick in. He didn't say the lobby part.
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He has to convince somebody else to to let him go there.
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He has to leave his team to go watch that.
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Don't you think that his team probably has something to say
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about that? OK, so my my issue here and
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we'll talk about your guy. We'll talk about your guy, Paul
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Skeens. He came out and said basically
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I'll run. This thing I'll throw to my arm
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falls off. You better not, but yeah.
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My thing and Logan Webb, you can lump, you can lump Logan Webb
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into that mix too. Logan Webb, I think said he's
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down for the cause, which I'm, you know, if a guy is down for
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the 'cause. I'm down for the 'cause.
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I know you're down for the cause that then you're a winner in my
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book. But people are saying, well,
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it's because people, including you, Josh, are saying it's
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because Scooble is going or is in a contract here.
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Well, not the same situation. Are we just going to pretend as
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though Paul Skeens doesn't have a very important, most likely
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lucrative career ahead of him as well?
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So two things, yes. And with time, it's hard because
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I don't it's the risk is not as great because he's further away
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from free agency than it is for someone like Scubal.
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However, I think that it's fair to put Paul Skeens in a
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completely different category. This is an Air Force guy.
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He was going to do this. You knew what you were getting
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when you signed this guy. He's going to do this every
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time. So I don't think this is, this
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is a guy who's begging to do it, not necessarily being asked to
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do it. He's telling people I'm going to
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do this. I just think he's in a different
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category, being beings that he was an Air Force guy, so.
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So why can't to that logic though, why can't Scooble do the
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same thing? It the whole ask versus tell?
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He's Tarek Scooble, he can do whatever he wants to.
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He brought his Cy Youngs to the arbitration hearing.
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He clearly he's fine doing whatever whatever he wants to
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do. Yeah.
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Yeah, that that's fair. I mean, The thing is is it
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sounds like Derosa called him and said just give me one, at
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least one. Can you get can you make that
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happen? The the truth of the matter is
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Tarek Skubal works for the Tigers.
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I have no have we heard I mean, he's not going to throw the
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Tigers under the bus. I know that we all think that
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the him and the Tigers are fighting, but he that I don't
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think that's true. I think players typically want
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to do well for the team that drafted them.
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I think that's pretty consistent across the board.
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And I think that Scuba believes that he has a he has a very
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important job to do this year to, to win a World Series with
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Detroit because he's given them nine years.
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He wants to see it through. I, I I respect that.
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I think that ARB discrepancy soured that relationship a
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little bit more. Than no man, that's not the way
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he's talking. He's ready to go, man.
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Yeah, somewhere else. I'm on the fence.
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I hear both sides. I do.
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I think he's AI think he's a communist.
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Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He's going to be a Dodger. He's going to be a Dodger.
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Doesn't want to pitch for Team USA.
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He's a communist. I'm just kidding.
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Go ahead, Nate. I hear that side.
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I I think I understand the whole emotions of American sports fans
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at the current moment being on an Olympic high specifically
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wrapped around USA Hockey. I think I kind of see it to
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where I think it's a very hard comparison to work off of, you
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know what I mean? It's not like this is USA like
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gymnastics or skiing, like no disrespect to those those
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athletes and and Olympians, but like I think it's just a hard
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comparison when you look at hockey specifically and just how
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those guys are built and the fact that, you know, teeth are
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being punched out and and cracked and you know, there's
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blood everywhere and I'm like, you're going to have to kill me
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to keep me off the ice kind of mentality.
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I think it's a very hard, thin line that we're walking now that
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we get this immediately after on our side of things.
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And I get the idea that like we got to look at it as a business
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and we got to understand that this is our number one asset.
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If the Tigers fall out of it and want to potentially move him or
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maybe extend him before the deadline and lock him down like
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it, and if he's hurt, that just kind of ruins all the plans.
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So I understand that aspect to it, but at the same time, I
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don't know, dude, I'm down for our country rallying, rallying
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around something that's like a little distracting and a little
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exciting and sprinkles a little patriotism in there, no matter
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how you feel about current events.
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So I think that's what USA Hockey just did.
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And I think the way he said things and the way it's being
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portrayed, it feels a little sneaky that it didn't come out
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earlier. It's it's just bad timing of how
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like when it's dropped and like the quote itself and the whole
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lukewarm thing, it's just, it does kind of suck.
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And I think it just sucks. Like I, I don't think we need to
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like sit here and be mad at Terek school and say like, I'd
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rather have nothing. I got I'm going to take anything
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from Terek school anytime. But the lukewarm thing sucks
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because you know, he's the best. And it's just when you look at
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the rest of the roster and Kyle and I were there three years
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ago, like it was a very hodgepodgey roster.
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It's an aging, you know, often injured Mike Trout leading the
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cause. And then, you know, pretty much
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end of the road Adam Wainwright at at the front of the rotation.
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It's like, you know, and and a very young buck, Bobby Witt,
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junior Trey Turner did well, but like you didn't have we had Jeff
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McNeil at second base. What are we?
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Of course it's going to be higher expectations now.
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I think we look at these other countries and there's like this
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level of pride that we're like, no, dude, this is our game.
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And Japan is just continually dominating this.
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And a bunch of their star players just want a World Series
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with a team that everyone hates. Like there's some unified, like
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let's all gather together and take them down kind of thing.
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So I understand both sides, but I'm leaning towards the you
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know, you kind of suck for for bailing Tarek.
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See, that's the that's the part where I'm at still is like he's
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not necessarily bailing. Like this is what they asked him
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to do. This is what they worked out.
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The problem is, like you said, why didn't this come out before?
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Like we're going to get him for a start.
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I wonder if it's if it's Derosa's play to say we got
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Scooble, who else can we get? And then they rally more guys.
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Yeah, and they're using that. That's ammo.
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That's what I'm not. That's what people aren't
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understanding. This thing is in a week, like,
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do we really think we're getting like 7 or 8 out of Scooble
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against Great Britain of all teams?
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Like we're getting three, maybe four.
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Yeah, it's. 65 pitches, Max, that's how.
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We're going to talk. Yeah, we're exactly.
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We're going to dog walk Great Britain.
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So it's like, well, I'd rather have scooble over.
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And I'm not I'm not saying you Nader, even you, Josh.
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I'm just saying the general sentiment of like, well, would
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you rather have general sentiment?
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Would you rather have school or would you rather have Joe Blow?
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It's like, does it matter? I mean, at the end of the day,
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does it matter? No, just right now, Joe Blow
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does this say another thing is the fact that that this will be
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a common theme every WBC. I thought this was going to be
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different. I will.
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Never not be a problem. It's just it's not timed.
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There's no perfect timing. Like you can't, I think Chris
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Rose said that in his take, like there's no perfect timing of, of
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planning this. You can't do it right after the
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season in, in November, December and expect these guys to after
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going, you know, 160 plus games to come out and, and compete at
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that level. And then you can't expect them
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to go full bore 100% about to go compete and, and go for the long
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haul with your team. It's like, and then every three
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years you're going to have this scenario where a starter or a
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star is like on the brink of free agency and, you know,
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needing to get paid because that's what he earns.
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It's like it's, it's, it's going to be a story every year.
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I think in my mind, I think we'll get past it.
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I think it's a non story eventually when we're halfway
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through this tournament, if we lose to Japan or the Dr. in the
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finals and he's not on the bump and for some reason we've
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already used Paul Skeens 2 starts or whatever and you know
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someone else is throwing, it's like, well then yeah, I'm
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understanding that argument, but.
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I'm looking at. How the WBC is always going to
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be unfortunately. I'm looking at an article
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headline right now that says Reds fans could see Nick
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Ladolo's WC WBC dreams fulfilled after Terik Skubal announces 1
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start. Nick.
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Ladolo against against Shohei. Dude, Nick.
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Ladolo is good. We're talking about.
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The back-to-back Cy Young winner?
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I understand. That So I have a couple
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questions and Nate, you've already brought up one of them.
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I I was going to ask, how would it feel if this was more like a
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November timeline thing? You you likely wouldn't get
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anyone that's played in the World Series, but one of my
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favorite. There's also a large subset of
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fans who just don't care about it.
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And so like, there's also that which is weird to me.
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That's weird to me. Well, I mean.
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It maybe here's the thing, it's been what, 20 years and and it's
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been that's not true. It I was going to say like, I, I
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mean, I, I'm here for it. I think it's a lot of fun.
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We're all going to be there. But The thing is, is like, and
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it and it did, though it took me a while to get there, maybe
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because of the rosters that we were sending out there.
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But but regardless, you know, it took me a while to get there.
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And I think that, you know, I was talking to another buddy of
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mine and he brought up the same kind of thing like this is this
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doesn't have the the girth of the World Cup or the Olympics
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yet. Like we're we're getting there.
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So like it's not quite there yet.
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And, and I know for some people you're feeling that already and
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you want it to be there, but I don't think it's gonna get the
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respect yet because it hasn't been along that that long.
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But one of the things I love about it personally, who a guy
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who roots for a team who's usually not thinking about the
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playoffs. It's great experience for
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anybody like any of these players to go and play in this
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tournament with a packed stadium and and games on the line and
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and do or die situations. This is great experience for
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those players to go there. Like I want my players to go
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play in this because of the experience.
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It gets them in that atmosphere so that when it comes time that
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your team goes to the postseason, you've already had
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that experience and you're ready for that kind of moment.
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So that kind of makes me think that if it was a November
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timeline, there are a lot of guys like that who just finished
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a season who were, who were wanting more and didn't get it,
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who would then want to go compete in the WBC in November
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while they're still hot, while they're still ready to go.
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And then you worry a lot less about injuries too, because
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you've got some time to recover before spring.
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If you miss a little bit of April.
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That's one thing. You know what I'm saying?
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Again, arms, we said earlier when we were talking personally,
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arms are arms, they're going to get injured no matter what.
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So you, it's kind of hard to really avoid that.
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And they're putting all these limitations in it and everything
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for that. The second question I had.
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Was actually, yeah. Was there a question?
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So the question was, yeah. How does November feel like a
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better timeline? No, I think.
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Guys are gas after 162 plus like?
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And it's the amount of guys that are battling through injuries
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that don't even talk about it through the postseason, right?
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And I get what you're saying, Like we're probably not going to
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get World Series players or even, you know, Championship
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Series players at that point just because of the window and.
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I, there's just not a perfect time.
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You would have to restructure the season and you'd have to
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pull that, you know, the John Smoltz idea of breaking the
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season up into two basically halves and having three weeks
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off in between. And, you know, just, I think
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we'd have to restructure the whole thing.
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And so I, I, I think it's Kyle and I maybe just have a
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different take cause we've, we've been to 1 and we've seen
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it and it's like, it's unlike normal.
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It's just not normal baseball. It's not like it's not even like
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postseason baseball. I don't even compare it to that.
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I think it's just one of the more unique experiences to, to
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feel other cultures in the way they root for the game.
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And you see this like raw, even more childlike reactions from
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players playing in front of their own cultures and playing
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in, you know, similar to where you see the the the junior
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Caminero walk off in the Dominican League, you know, a
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couple years ago, right? Like there's just this like.
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Just. Genuine joy that you see guys
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play with and these fans, we're the most boring fans.
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US fans are the most boring fans at these things.
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And so just being surrounded by that is, well, Great Britain
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kind of sucks. But outside of that, it's, it's
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just, it's super unique to see. And I think you kind of can't
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help but have like this patriotic like burn inside.
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You're like, I, I just want to win this.
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I don't know why, but I, we, I need to win this.
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It feels like it's mine in a different way than regular
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baseball. That's the best way I can
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explain it. And I hope that people get a
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chance to experience it at some point.
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And it is growing. It is getting bigger.
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And I think you can tell by the number of stars that are signed
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up. I think we'll be OK.
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I don't know if this is going to, you know, I don't think it
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necessarily ends the the journey before it starts.
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I just it does suck not having the guy we're.
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Going to have. Josh with stars and stripes on
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his chest by the end of this thing.
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You can count on that. Yeah, here's the second.
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Question I had 'cause I I wanted just to bring it back to school
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specifically. So.
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OK. So we're we're under, we're in
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the understanding now that like this was previous, like this was
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this has been the plan the whole time.
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One start, would it make it better?
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If they would. Have said get through pool play.
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Yeah, I'll get you later. Yeah, You know what I'm saying?
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Let me stay with my team and go through my progressions and yes,
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and do all the things I need to do.
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But you guys make it this far. I'm in.
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How does that? Land because you have to
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actually get that far. I'd rather not.
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Hear about it. If that was the plan, I would
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rather not hear that school was in it all until we got to that
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point and they were like, yo, guess what?
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There's like a jersey leak or something like that.
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And then it's like it's like The Rock coming out in WWE and
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everyone's like what? We got this guy coming.
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I'd rather have that side of it. I wouldn't want to hear just
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from like a. Like a.
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Clubhouse perspective. I wouldn't want to hear like,
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I'm only showing up if you guys can do The Dirty work kind of
23:20
thing, you know? Oh my God.
23:23
In the trenches, dude. Yeah, but you got to.
23:25
Have enough awareness if you're in that clubhouse to look around
23:28
at the rest of the pool and be like, we're coming out of this,
23:30
like that's what part of it too. Is that like we don't get the
23:33
Dominican Republic, we we don't get Puerto Rico, we don't get
23:37
Japan? Like we don't get the the dogs,
23:40
like no disrespect to the rest of our pool, but like.
23:44
Mexico's going to be a granitors.
23:46
Mexico's going to be a great matchup.
23:48
That was a great matchup last time.
23:49
It's going to be a great matchup this year.
23:52
But yeah, I don't know. Planning and substitute teachers
23:56
and stuff. It's just did you see?
24:00
Who's he playing? For, well, I mean the.
24:02
Stipulations to play for a team are pretty loose these days.
24:06
I know Alexi. Ramirez is playing.
24:08
He's like 47. I saw I.
24:09
Just, I just mean like, hey. One time I he played in 2006.
24:13
One time. I sneezed in Italy.
24:15
Can I play for team in Italy? Yeah, shut.
24:18
Up Geraldus. No, it's, I mean, it is what it
24:26
is. I just like I said, there's no
24:28
perfect time for it and I just don't like the the people being
24:34
like we're like, we're so lucky to have them.
24:36
It's like, no dude, like you have a whole team that's super
24:41
bought in and it's just a weird message at a weird time and it's
24:44
unfortunate. I understand the the business
24:46
aspect to it but doesn't mean it doesn't suck I think.
24:50
I'm a little bit in that camp, though.
24:51
I, I think I'm a little bit in that camp.
24:53
I, I, I'm genuinely excited about things when I, when I'm,
24:58
you know, pouring into him. And so like, if I get Scubal for
25:02
one, like let's go, that's awesome.
25:04
And if I get somebody else for the next, like, that's awesome
25:07
too. I just want to be like, that's
25:09
just my nature is just to be positive about it.
25:11
So like, I'm, I'm pumped. We're going to have, you know,
25:15
we're going to have Josh. Calling for Scubal's head on a
25:17
platter. After he comes.
25:20
Out in the third and we have to remind him that that's all
25:23
you're getting a scuba and Josh is going to have the stars and
25:26
stripes on his nipples and he's going to be like I want his head
25:30
on a silver platter Yeah, I'm telling you, you just.
25:34
Wait, are we doing him now? I'm telling you.
25:37
And this is not a slight. It's the last thing I'll say
25:39
because we got to move on. We've been talking about this
25:40
for almost half an hour. This is not a slight to you.
25:43
But like, I'm I'm I'm telling you, or I can only imagine, I
25:47
should say, like you said, watching a team that you don't
25:51
really have to worry about the postseason with, this is this is
25:54
just a different animal. Like Nate said, you can't even
25:56
really compare it to postseason baseball.
25:58
It's just something completely different.
26:01
And I'm telling you, you're going to, I can speak from
26:04
experience, like, like Nate was saying, you're going to feel
26:06
something different and as rational as you are, Josh.
26:10
Yeah, I was going to say. You know that I'm.
26:12
I think the. Screws are going to come a
26:13
little loose next week. Wins.
26:17
Wins. When was the last pirate playoff
26:21
run 2015 it? Was 15.
26:23
It was the Cueto 2013. Was Cueto Earth?
26:28
Who was what was significant years ago guy?
26:31
That's eleven years ago. Those were the those.
26:33
Were the three years 131415 this man?
26:37
Hasn't tasted it in a while, you know what I mean?
26:40
Oh yeah, for. Sure.
26:41
That's, I mean, I'm excited to go down there just a little
26:43
dormant. He's a little dormant, That's
26:45
all right. This is going to wake him up.
26:48
I'm excited. Catch the blog.
26:49
I'm pumped man. I'm pumped.
26:51
Catch the blog. Well, you know, we talk about
26:55
the risk of injury in the World Baseball Classic.
27:00
So let's talk about a guy that definitely got injured in the
27:04
World Baseball Classic. Pablo Lopez definitely is having
27:11
the season ending Tommy John surgery as result of this super
27:15
risky, dangerous World Baseball Classic.
27:17
And definitely he. Was he was.
27:21
Definitely. Because of the WBC and not
27:23
because of just a team workout or anything, but yeah, Tom Pablo
27:28
Lopez out with Tommy John. Like you said, Nate, he was set
27:34
to pitch for Venezuela. It's a tough blow for a team
27:39
that already is kind of, kind of booty.
27:41
Meat. Yeah, I I mean, I don't even
27:48
know why. I'm giving this to you because I
27:50
already I'm going to get a beer. Oh my gosh, this sucks, dude.
27:55
Yeah, it really. Does he really is?
27:57
Sleeping. Oh, of course.
28:00
Is. Lopez 14 starts last year, dealt
28:05
with some injuries last year, too.
28:06
Three straight years before that, a 32 starts.
28:11
This sucks. I mean, the Twins probably don't
28:14
have much to hang on to if not for Pablo Lopez pitching there.
28:20
And now that's gone. That's a.
28:22
Tough asset to lose. I mean, I get, I get that.
28:25
I get that aspect because it's also one of the.
28:26
Reasons why my fantasy team was so bad last year.
28:30
Freaking Pablo, man. I don't think it was just.
28:32
Because of Pablo. No disrespect.
28:34
Jordan and Pablo, yeah. And they were, they were my big
28:37
guys. Wasn't like.
28:38
Half your team Pirates. That was at the end.
28:42
When I was like I'm way out of this now.
28:47
This man's. Shameless.
28:49
Yeah. I was like, maybe, maybe this
28:51
will get him going or get him hurt one of the other.
28:57
That's awesome. He just needs to stare at that
29:01
red, white and blue and eat a hot dog and he'll snap right out
29:04
of this. I wish I could.
29:05
Eat a hot dog. You can't.
29:07
Still. Can't.
29:09
Oh, because COVID. Yeah, hot dogs are still very
29:14
off the list. They're on my list.
29:17
We're pushing like. We're pushing 5.
29:20
Years of this we don't need to talk.
29:24
I don't know. Nate, you're pretty.
29:26
You're pretty out on it's changed.
29:28
Lately. It's changed.
29:30
The hot dog. What are you talking?
29:33
About just were you going to say I was pretty?
29:34
Out on hot dogs. You.
29:37
You were going to. Say I was I was pretty out on
29:39
hot dog. No, let's come back.
29:40
To that, what are you saying? Are you saying just the overall
29:43
hot dog has changed? What are you saying?
29:46
No, my take on hot dogs. Oh, you're saying?
29:50
It's changed for the better. For the better, yeah.
29:53
I was out on hot dogs for a little bit.
29:55
OK, that's what I. Was going to say because I was
29:56
talking about the WBC going back to Phoenix in 2023 You all you
30:01
complained about was the fact that it was just D back dogs all
30:04
around the park and no other options for food.
30:08
Well, yeah, when you're. Going there for four consecutive
30:10
days, I mean, I think look. I'm not valid.
30:16
That's valid, say. That's not going to.
30:18
Rely on a dog. Over and over again, you know,
30:23
but now it's back. Like, yeah, I had yeah, hot dogs
30:27
back for me. Any Who's Pablo man, the
30:32
freaking twins just. What are they?
30:37
What are? They projected at this year, I
30:39
know as twelve wins. The Pakoda.
30:44
The pakoda or pagoda that's the wrong one is always off.
30:49
But I was I've only heard about theirs being out.
30:55
Is there another one out? What if you went to like FanDuel
30:57
or whatever? The Coda's.
31:02
Projected them to have. They're projected to go 78 and
31:06
83. I might shake the.
31:10
Under dude finishing third, yeah.
31:11
There's just no. Part of this roster that
31:13
impresses me and even then I think some of the names that are
31:18
worth anything would likely get moved.
31:22
I mean they they have to be in a full rebuild mode at this point
31:28
and this just kind of just kind of sucks.
31:32
How old is Pablo? 30, so going to be 30.
31:37
Going to be 30. Yeah, we'll, we'll see him.
31:39
Again, at full strength at 32, that's.
31:44
It's tough, man. It's tough.
31:50
How do we feel about? Juan Soto.
31:53
'S MVP comments When asked about Shohei, he said he better keep
32:05
doing what he's doing because I'm coming.
32:08
When talking. About the MVP.
32:16
I think there's. I think there's.
32:21
Certain guys that have certain priorities and I think some of
32:27
the guys that keep winning MVPS. Don't really.
32:32
Care if they win MVPS or not, You know what I mean?
32:35
They're more worried about bigger and better things, more
32:39
team things than individual things.
32:43
And I think the, I think the Mets got a guy that's maybe a
32:52
little more concerned with individual things.
32:56
You know, it's kind of my take on it.
33:00
He was. Asked this, he was asked.
33:03
There's always. Context.
33:04
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He.
33:05
Was asked about Shohei and. And kind of if he can, if he can
33:13
find a way to find a way around Shohei to get an MVP.
33:17
And he said I'm going to be there every year too, so he
33:20
better keep doing what he's doing because I'm coming.
33:23
Yeah, I mean I. I don't disagree.
33:25
He's not wrong. Yeah.
33:27
You're still on mute. Guy, He was a finalist.
33:30
Last year, wasn't he? Yeah.
33:31
I mean, he's been a. Let me.
33:34
See this says he's been thanks to Pete Alonzo.
33:36
Top 10. Six times.
33:38
Big Peter. Guy.
33:39
Oh yeah. Yeah, I don't.
33:44
I don't dislike Soto, but I don't like him.
33:47
I don't root for him. I'm kind of with you there.
33:49
You know a. Little bit of maybe a little bit
33:51
of the Mets thing, I don't really know, but either way, I
33:55
still love this in a way like. If you think you're the.
33:59
Best then let him know. I don't know.
34:02
I mean, unless he starts pitching, I don't know what he's
34:04
going to do. That's what I'm saying.
34:06
I'm like, oh, news to me that he learned to pitch over the
34:08
offseason. Like what?
34:10
I mean, you can't even play. Average right field defense,
34:13
they had to move you to left and it's still going to be below
34:15
average. Yeah, dude, I he did have didn't
34:21
he have 30 swipes last year? Sneak sneaky swipes or did he
34:25
have 40? He had 30. 8 But yeah, I mean.
34:27
That's just like under the radar, but he's.
34:30
Still not a good. Base runner, just because he's
34:32
no, he's still third. I mean, he was a good base
34:34
stealer, right? No, I like it.
34:38
I mean, I, I like the edge. I like having that little bit
34:42
of, you know, ego to it and like I, I don't know, maybe our
34:46
generation is like so used to the copy and paste.
34:51
You know, I went to PR school with my organization answers
34:55
that I know how to answer every media question the right way
34:58
without answering it at all. So it's kind of nice when you
35:03
get some of these guys, these outliers that just pop out.
35:06
And but I think the tough thing is, is that like you just, I
35:10
don't know, you ask certain guys are in the league and they
35:12
answer that that question differently.
35:14
I think there's plenty of perennial MVPS that would
35:17
probably say things differently than that.
35:20
And at this point, it's like. I don't know.
35:25
I'd be like I. I just made a.
35:28
Boatload of money from this team and and I you know, like, I
35:32
think we need to start winning like that's all that matters to
35:34
me, right? But I don't know.
35:36
Whatever. Yeah, if that answers.
35:37
Different, they say, Like. And of course he goes.
35:40
Right. Yeah, like they go as he goes.
35:42
So he's not wrong. He's just right.
35:44
I would have said it differently.
35:46
MVP I'm. Worried about Iran I.
35:48
Would I would even balk at that, I would say they go as Lindor
35:51
goes. I think that's how it's always
35:52
been. Yeah, yeah, I.
35:55
Mean sure if if Soto's clicking. It's going to be down.
35:58
The handmade bone thing is going to be an issue, no no doubt.
36:01
No doubt, but I'm just saying they are saying.
36:02
Like a a. A front of the line guy, like if
36:06
Soto's clicking, great. You you're not going to turn
36:08
that production away. But I'm just talking about a
36:11
simply like a momentum. Yeah, I mean, I sure.
36:16
But you say I'm. Sure, it could be bad about
36:17
Pete. Probably.
36:20
Used to say that. About Pete.
36:21
And then it was just like, Nah. You know what I mean?
36:25
They get a new shiny toy and it's like, well, that's front.
36:28
Office. I'm talking about in the
36:29
clubhouse, sure. Yeah, I don't know how he is.
36:33
It's hard to tell. I don't I'm with you or I guess
36:38
both of you guys. I think you both agreed on the
36:40
point where I'm not like, particularly rooting for him,
36:42
but I will always come to his defense.
36:44
When people want to come at the whole like, we're really calling
36:47
this guy generational talent, It's like, yeah, we are.
36:51
There's no. There's no disputing that.
36:52
Was he worth 760 whatever million?
36:57
That's a conversation for another day.
36:58
But the the people disputing whether or not this guy is like
37:01
a a generational talent that we need to stop that right now.
37:05
Yeah, he's an incredible. Hitter.
37:09
Yeah, I don't know. I I like the individuality of
37:12
some of these answers sometimes. And if you get a guy in a, in a
37:18
right organization that gives them the freedom to speak the
37:21
way they want to speak a lot like Jazz Chisholm last week.
37:24
It's like sometimes it's refreshing.
37:27
It's almost always going to rub people the wrong way.
37:30
But like you kind of like it. And he was a little bit of a
37:35
villain when he left the Yankees and signed with the Mets.
37:37
Like he had that villain tag on it.
37:40
And I remember you and I, Casey, were like just full-fledged go
37:43
villain. Like if you go villain mode it,
37:47
it does wonders for you. And I'd I'd like to see it a
37:52
little bit. I'd like to see him more.
37:54
He's the guy that would. Feed off of that, yeah, he would
37:56
just go full blown. Yeah, PCA has some comments of
38:01
his own. Yeah, I was.
38:05
Going to say. Quotes man yeah, this is the
38:08
great the the beauty of spring training is you get people just
38:12
letting it letting it eat from the hip.
38:15
PCA when talking about Chicago, you know, talk about how he
38:20
loves the city and all that, but for some reason giving giving
38:27
strays to LA said I love Chicago more and more.
38:31
It's an incredible city. The people are great.
38:35
They aren't just baseball fans who go to the game like Dodgers
38:37
fans to take pictures or whatever.
38:39
They're paying attention. They care.
38:43
I like that man. I like this.
38:47
Time. Yeah, I'm a big fan.
38:48
I'm a big fan. I like it.
38:52
That's just another guy that's going to be.
38:54
He's going to be colorful with whatever he says.
38:57
He's not wrong. It's not wrong.
39:01
All those fans are late to the to the start and and leaving
39:05
early. So it's like kind of true.
39:10
What did our guy? Murray say who's a full blown
39:13
Dodgers fan? He said he's been.
39:16
Saying it for years and it sucks seeing the seats behind home
39:21
plate empty out after the 7th. He also said it's hard being a
39:26
fan of the sport in LA. I can't go to a bar and just
39:30
start talking ball with random people who are watching the game
39:32
because they're not watching, but more waiting for a text so
39:36
they have eyes on TV it. Yeah, it's probably just like a
39:40
talking point. And this is kind of what you get
39:43
with. You get it with every every team
39:46
in every location. You get team like fans that come
39:49
out of the woodwork. Remember all the Royals fans
39:51
that popped up after 2015? It was like, Oh well, where
39:55
where are you guys from? Like we've never heard you
39:57
before, Where are you coming from?
39:59
Now you're just suddenly a lifelong Royals fan.
40:03
So amplify that by a million in one of the biggest cities in the
40:07
world. Can you expect PCA Ain't wrong
40:11
about Chicago though. What else is?
40:14
Going on there, it's just sports, dude.
40:17
Like it's just constantly sports and I like it.
40:21
They're just hardos. Well, and pizza.
40:25
Yeah, I'm not a big. Fan of that pizza?
40:26
Me neither. Yeah.
40:29
Casserole so if. You take this back to if you
40:33
take this back to PCA being 14 years old, that's the 2017
40:37
Dodgers. So it's not like.
40:40
He was even talking about an era of the Dodgers that weren't very
40:42
good. Yeah, well, he's.
40:44
Also an LA kid that that's what I mean.
40:47
Like, Oh yeah, that's what he, yeah, he grew up going to those
40:49
games. So this observation is is his
40:52
and he's talking about that team and and more recent probably.
40:58
There are. The the bigger cities you have
41:01
that Yankees games have that for sure.
41:03
They have people that come from work and they're in a suit and
41:07
and they have amazing seats because they can afford it.
41:10
And then they eat some food and they leave and they're like cool
41:15
Yankees by and then it's over. You're going to get that in big
41:21
cities. This just is what it is.
41:23
But. I guess not.
41:25
Chicago, apparently we got to go.
41:27
By the way, we got to go to a day game in Wrigley and and live
41:32
it up. Yeah, that'd be sweet.
41:35
Twed be. Sweets close in the book here
41:38
twed be. Twed.
41:40
Be twed, be sweet. Does that work?
41:43
I've heard of Twas. We can also have Twed.
41:46
I say Twed. All the time.
41:49
Faby, do some. Research on that, feel free to
41:51
use it. All right, well, you're asking
41:54
the guy that says yins and then that and and it's there.
41:59
That's true. If anyone's going to let it
42:00
slide, well, it's. True.
42:03
But yeah, it it's a contraction, it would, It would, it would.
42:09
And by the way, that wasn't a I'm mad in that I'm.
42:11
Mad at that wasn't a knock. On, on yins and all that.
42:13
That's oh, I I. Will welcome your comments about
42:16
that. Yeah, no.
42:17
Guy, I've said this on here multiple times.
42:20
That's my family's, that's on, that's on my mom's side of the
42:24
family. I I did that.
42:28
He knows a lot. Move on to your lackluster
42:31
segue. Speaking of lackluster.
42:35
Oh well, you're. Going to have to answer to Chris
42:39
Sale because I was going to talk about his extension briefly.
42:43
Closing the book. One year, $27 million extension
42:46
that includes a club option. Sale turns 37 in March.
42:56
Do we like sailing in Atlanta? Yeah, I love him in Atlanta.
43:01
Atlanta is desperate though, clearly.
43:04
Like not saying that's like the desperate move is to extend
43:08
somebody in their late 30s. But, and to be fair, he I think
43:13
has a lot less bullets because of some of the injuries.
43:16
You know what I mean? He's used a lot less bullets
43:19
than a lot of pitchers his age, so I could see him going into
43:22
the low 40s, especially arm angle and just being nasty in
43:26
general. General I'm but I.
43:34
Don't. Really fully understand the way
43:37
they spend money sometimes and we've seen them pick the wrong
43:41
horse a few times. You know, Sean Murphy and if
43:45
Austin Riley doesn't bounce back, if you know they haven't
43:49
figured stuff out at shortstop, Michael Harris doesn't seem to
43:53
be what they hyped them up to be.
43:55
It's like I'm kind of questioning how they evaluate.
44:00
So I wouldn't be surprised if this bites them at some point,
44:04
but at the same time, I wouldn't be surprised if Chris Sale just
44:07
is Chris Sale. Is that fair?
44:13
Austin Riley is going to bounce back.
44:17
Oh my gosh, whitewash. Well, it just happened to my.
44:20
Lights. 'Cause I'm the sun.
44:26
That's what his skin normally looks like outside, huh?
44:31
You got to watch the video guys. Yeah, watch on YouTube if you're
44:34
not. Missing out.
44:40
Murray's question of the Week. You just don't have a take.
44:43
On it, this guy's this guy's shipped it in yeah, I'm.
44:47
Crawling to the finish line. I'm hoping you guys can carry me
44:49
just once, OK? Marie's question.
44:55
Of the week, Marie. 'S question of the week.
45:00
Marie's Question of the Week. Your three favorite side dishes?
45:06
Do we have to have? A veggie.
45:09
No good veggie suck. Off air, JB and I are talking
45:18
about how dominating. The potato.
45:22
Category is in in the side dish game.
45:26
Mac and cheese for me has to be. Has to be selected.
45:31
Just has to be. We're all family.
45:33
Here right it would it bother anybody if I popped a cough drop
45:36
in? I'm dying over here.
45:38
You. Got to do it man, I'm sorry.
45:40
I tried to make it. I know it's probably annoying
45:42
but I I I really gave it my all but I got AI got a pop one in.
45:46
OK Mac and cheese. Continue Mac and cheese.
45:49
Mac and cheese. Oh boy.
45:51
I mean this, this kind of rotates, you know, really
45:56
depends. It depends on what.
45:59
Else you're eating that's. Depends on the main dish.
46:02
Like I just had the the Trader Joe's Kung Pao chicken like
46:08
that, you just toss in the pan kind of thing.
46:13
And we had pot stickers makes that and I'm like, that's,
46:17
that's a fantastic side. That's a great a side side of
46:21
rice, you know what I mean? So it's like, it's hard to say,
46:25
but I'm going to go, I'm going to go Mac and cheese.
46:29
It's the desert. Island concept, It's like, yeah,
46:31
you can take into account all these different contexts and
46:34
situations, but like if you had to pick 3.
46:40
It's hard. Man, can I give you 2 and then
46:42
bounce the JB while I think about it?
46:44
Yeah. I mean, Fry it's.
46:50
Just fries, but it has to be fries.
46:53
Pretty universal psycho. All right, JB, fill in, fill in
46:57
the gap here my. Initial thought was OK, mashed
47:01
potatoes and gravy, a baked potato and French fries.
47:05
I'm just all potato. That was my initial thought.
47:08
I could go for some Mac and cheese.
47:11
Yeah. Katie.
47:11
Makes this baked Mac and cheese. That is, I'm out on baked.
47:15
But I respect it. It's.
47:16
Fantastic. It's not like it doesn't have
47:19
the crumbly stuff. It's a different.
47:23
They'll knock to eat. Right, I hear you.
47:25
Just loses its creaminess for me.
47:27
OK, baked potato. Huh.
47:31
Yeah, I. Mean it just can't steak in a
47:33
baked potato just you know it's there or but again if.
47:39
If this is a desert island approach, you take the steak out
47:43
of it. Can you really Can you?
47:44
Are you really OK with a baked potato?
47:47
Otherwise, yeah, 'cause you'd have.
47:49
To well, I got three of them, right?
47:50
So if I've got a burger, then I've got the French fries.
47:54
A burger's not a side. Well, no, but you.
47:56
Can't have a side unless you have something else to eat on
47:59
the side. Of I get it, yeah, you can't it.
48:01
Can't be a side if you're saying pick three side dishes to be.
48:06
Let's settle. That first cheese and bacon.
48:09
And lots of butter. Little sour cream?
48:12
No, no sour. Cream.
48:13
No sour cream, Little green. Onion.
48:15
Sprinkle No no, nothing green. Pretty much nothing green.
48:19
Pretty much nothing green ever. Pepper.
48:23
At least. I mean, I can put salt.
48:26
And pepper on it, but I don't I could salt.
48:29
Salt. Yeah, lots of salt around the
48:31
outside and everything that's definitely good, but I don't add
48:33
extra I. Don't know if I can land.
48:38
On a third man, I'm just. What do you got?
48:42
Fries. And Mac and cheese, Yeah.
48:45
Yeah. I mean, I, I can't think of any
48:48
other. I'm wrapped up in potatoes.
48:51
I can't think of Yeah. Yeah, it's just anything else.
48:53
That's the cheat. Code right?
48:54
Use potatoes as one, noodles for another.
48:58
Then you can make them. All different kinds of ways,
49:00
right? I mean, what are you thinking?
49:04
Kyle the Cider Ranch. That that.
49:07
Doesn't that count? No.
49:10
I mean fries, Mac and cheese, and then any sort of like bread
49:14
with like a roll or AI wasn't even thinking.
49:17
About that A bad guy, bad play. Let me look up.
49:21
I'm going to look up a restaurant and then let's just
49:23
see what the sides. Are what the sides?
49:26
Are there's a very veggie heavy? And so if I had to go veggie, by
49:32
the way, if I was forced to go veggie, I'd be dead.
49:35
Probably an unpopular. Take, but I I I like a good like
49:39
Brussels sprout with like like bacon and like balsamic drizzle
49:45
all over it that that hits OK. So how about?
49:50
Fries on the sandwich Just skip the We don't need a side.
49:57
Put it all together. What kind of?
49:59
Sandwich though. I mean this is doesn't matter.
50:02
That's a salad. Put the.
50:03
Put the fries on it. So that's a Pittsburgh thing.
50:08
What? They put the fries.
50:10
On the sandwich. Oh, I thought you.
50:13
Said on a salad. I want a salad too.
50:15
Yeah, yeah. You put the fries in a salad.
50:16
Yeah. What?
50:18
Oh yeah, now I don't eat salads, but that's that's what they do.
50:22
How do we not have? Sides looking at your menu, see
50:26
the thing? Is that you know, the steel
50:28
workers didn't have enough time on their lunch break to eat a a
50:30
sandwich and a side Oh, he's. Hitting us.
50:33
He's hitting us with the blue collar stuff, so they put it
50:35
right. On they put it right on the I
50:37
respect it. I respect it Like fries on a
50:40
burger or like any kind of how do you spell typical?
50:44
Typical Any kind of like? Sides.
50:46
Meat side dishes was that the question was dish?
50:51
It does say. Dishes.
50:52
It doesn't matter. It's sides.
50:54
It's sides. I'll put my.
50:56
Fries in a dish, if that makes it work, I don't.
50:59
Whatever, I don't care what if. You called out bottomless fries.
51:04
Just keep them coming. Shout out Red.
51:06
Robin shout out Red. Robin, I might.
51:08
Double down on the noodles and go Mac salad here.
51:12
What do you? Think of that.
51:14
Oh, no, no, no, sorry, sorry. I was, I was a little Hawaiian.
51:17
Barbecue. Sorry, no.
51:18
I. Was thinking potato salad.
51:21
Which that sounds OK. About.
51:24
Mac salad, I'll do. Yeah, Mac salad is.
51:26
Great, I I. Just thought of something else
51:28
that I would put on my sides, but it still has potatoes.
51:32
It's beans. Beans, beans.
51:35
What's a pierogi? Oh man.
51:39
Now you got so. Much to learn.
51:40
Yeah, we'll. We'll get to what is it?
51:42
I've heard of it, what is it? It's a.
51:47
It's a perogie. I don't know the difference
51:48
between like a perogie and like a Stromboli.
51:50
Are those in the same category? No.
51:53
No Stromboli's aogie. Stromboli's A.
51:56
Pizza like Stromboli? 'S like a pizza type thing,
52:00
right? A folded over that's a.
52:02
Calzone, Stromboli and. Calzone are real close the low.
52:06
Cal Calzone zone. Zone but beans.
52:12
Could be could be a part of the conversation.
52:15
Yellow some cowboy beans, beans or some I mean look the the
52:23
Mexican refried beans, yes. Please.
52:28
So perogies. Are like, it's like dough that
52:31
you look up. A picture put like potatoes.
52:32
In it and then you like fold it over and it's kind of, it looks
52:36
kind of like the same ideas like a like an empanada.
52:40
I don't know about an. Empanada, but it's.
52:42
So white it's like. Dumpling type.
52:45
You know what I mean it. Looks.
52:47
Good. I'd I'd It's delicious.
52:49
I'd snatch. These up for sure.
52:54
Yeah, I'm putting. That on mine.
52:57
It's still potatoes. It's still potatoes.
52:59
But. I'm not going to get away from
53:02
that. Onion rings.
53:03
That might be a play, no? No top three.
53:06
Come on, I'm just looking. Through Options Murray, this is.
53:09
What you do? Why?
53:11
Just ask us what our favorite side is.
53:14
Not all three sides. Who gets three sides?
53:19
If you go to a. Barbecue you do?
53:21
What about the? Creamed options.
53:23
You go to like a steakhouse, you get like the creamed corn, like
53:26
creamed, creamed. What are we doing?
53:29
Dude, what are you I'm talking? To young people, I think talking
53:32
to the wrong people, no, you're talking.
53:34
To I am the wrong people. Yeah, you're.
53:36
Talking to people. That are answering the same
53:38
questions you and that question is top three sides you were you
53:41
were just having a conversation about sides at this point like
53:44
your answer what are your what's your?
53:45
Answer I told you. Same 2 as you, Mac and cheese
53:49
and fries and then throw in like a Brit.
53:51
I mean I know it's super carb heavy, but like a roll, a
53:54
baguette, something like that. Garlic knot?
53:58
Sure. Yeah, he's just saying.
54:01
Bread. If you take the whole bread
54:04
category, then yeah, yeah. Some sort of roll?
54:07
Yeah, I'll bump Mac. Salad for that for sure.
54:10
A breadstick. A roll.
54:13
With the cinnamon. Butter, OH.
54:17
True the Texas. Roadhouse, Roadhouse cinnamon
54:21
butter or just the the brown bread at Outback with that
54:25
homemade butter. Also true, yeah.
54:27
That's nice. All right, let's.
54:30
Move on. All right, let's move on.
54:31
OK. Going oh this is me.
54:35
Just you, JB, All right, I'll, I'll save.
54:36
You the you know, I'll save you the Segway here, Kyle, you
54:41
thought? You really?
54:44
Thought brown bread. That you.
54:46
Could get away with having a show on February 25th 2026 and
54:54
not bring up Conor Griffin Boo. Why would I talk?
55:01
About Conor Griffin talking about what are you?
55:03
Talking about did you see the two homers Tuesday?
55:08
I know you did, Kyle. Oh, wait.
55:10
He. Hit homers.
55:12
But did you see them? What are you let's say?
55:15
I'm a little biased, so I want to hear you.
55:17
The guy that's not even. Going to break camp, what are
55:19
your thoughts? OK, you already.
55:21
Started that, what are your thoughts here?
55:24
As a layup what? What?
55:27
Are your thoughts on the player? I don't know enough.
55:30
You obviously know the guy. I don't know enough about him to
55:33
have an educated opinion yet. You know how I feel about young,
55:37
like super young like prospect type players.
55:44
I'm going to be. Honest, I didn't hear his name
55:45
before we started talking to you.
55:49
But he looks like. He looks like a freak.
55:52
I think they interviewed when they were playing the Phillies.
55:55
They were interviewing Bryce Harper in the dugout, and Bryce
55:59
was like, he just looks like a grown man already.
56:01
Like he looks like he's legit. So yeah, but he looks good.
56:11
Why wouldn't he? Break camp.
56:13
I don't. What else do you guys have plan?
56:16
Are you guys just going to manipulate time again?
56:19
No, there's a reason. Why they didn't acquire anybody
56:21
else? I think that the I think that
56:23
the talk, I think that the talk about him.
56:27
Playing. For a position is is mostly just
56:30
trying not to put too much pressure on him I.
56:33
I I. Don't understand why I maybe
56:37
they're just waiting for the extension.
56:42
Hold on, sorry, is is. He going to break camp and play.
56:44
What are we talking? About he should be.
56:47
Playing shortstop, Yeah. What are we?
56:49
Talking about right now. This is trivia time.
56:52
Why? Yeah, why I?
56:54
Got trivia? I'm working it there.
56:55
I'm working it there. I just wanted, I wanted to hear.
56:58
This is the talk of the MLB town right now.
57:02
No, everybody's. Talking about it.
57:05
Oh, everybody. You can't.
57:08
Escape it right now. He sure does, I thought I.
57:12
Left something so glaringly obvious out of the rundown.
57:16
And then he hits me with why aren't we talking about Conor
57:18
Griffin? And then Nate responds with guys
57:20
not even going to break camp. He he should.
57:24
He should. And here's the thing, the
57:26
Pirates have shown recently that they don't care.
57:29
They don't care. They'll do it.
57:30
They've done it the last two years.
57:32
They've had a guy break camp, make his debut on the opening
57:34
day roster. So like they're they've shown
57:38
that. I mean, Skeens didn't, but
57:39
Skeens also pitched 6.2 innings before that season.
57:42
So I think that that's a little bit exceptional.
57:45
Didn't he, didn't he wait until like August?
57:49
Yeah, but. Well, he had some, yeah, he had
57:51
some some walk issues and stuff last year.
57:53
He should have been up before that too.
57:55
But am I? Watching Bridge to October right
57:57
now, OK? OK, we talk about all 30 teams
58:01
here, guy. We talk about here we go.
58:04
No, no, no, no, this guy. Gets in his seat, the less he we
58:08
bring up the. Pirates.
58:09
You can ask anybody who listens. We bring up the Pirates.
58:12
The more than literally any other team on this show is this
58:16
branch. About not more than.
58:17
Any other team, but yeah, you you talk about the pirates all
58:20
right, let's so let's get it somewhere, OK, let's get it
58:22
somewhere we don't need to do that we're going to go away from
58:27
it right We're going to go away from it.
58:29
We. Have to go on a.
58:30
A pirate hiatus? I don't.
58:34
Know. I think we're.
58:36
Just getting started here. All right, Griffin turns 20 in
58:40
late April. Okay, is this a part of?
58:42
The trivia. So yeah.
58:43
This is part of the trivia. So we could talk 19 all we want.
58:46
Everybody wants to talk about 19 right now, but he's about 20.
58:49
So I'm going to use, I'm going to use age 20.
58:52
He's 19 or is he? 20 He's 19.
58:54
Right now, but he's going to be 20 in April.
58:56
This is still his age 20 season. Sure, I know that the the the
58:59
hot buzzword right now is 19 because he'll he'll debut at 19.
59:03
That's fine. Well, that's how old.
59:04
He is age, yeah. That's how old he is, man
59:06
Segment. Leave him alone.
59:08
There are 14 hitters since 1989. To play at.
59:14
Least 100 games in a season with still rookie status at that
59:22
1/20/20 or younger. OK, ten of those players hit
59:26
double digit home runs in that season.
59:28
Name them one. Soto, you already got a rod.
59:32
Bryce Harper. A rod is not.
59:34
On this list because he played. He didn't play 100 games his
59:37
first two seasons and he lost rookie status.
59:40
He only played like some games. Son of a bee.
59:44
Bryce. Harper, Bryce Harper is.
59:46
On the list you've got 2 sweet young Prince.
59:57
We're guessing 10. You're guessing. 10 double digit
1:00:00
homers 20 years or less Rookie season when?
1:00:06
Since 19. 89 is all the further I went back to get a specific.
1:00:09
Player 20. 20 or 20 or younger? 20 or.
1:00:12
Younger the stipulation that I went with is that they had to
1:00:16
play 100 games, right? And so like that's why a rod
1:00:20
falls out of it because he played like 20 games and then he
1:00:22
played 50 games and then he had a full season and he already
1:00:25
lost his rookie status. Griffey.
1:00:27
That's why I went back to 89 was to get Griffey in there.
1:00:30
Best ever so. You think Bobby Witt's in there?
1:00:35
Bobby Witt. Was not, I feel like that young?
1:00:38
Yeah, because he was he he, he went to college.
1:00:46
So we've got Soto, we've got Harper.
1:00:49
I will say there's there's one more that falls in the 90's.
1:00:56
The rest of them are 2010 and more recent.
1:01:04
The. 90s hint coaching a WBC team.
1:01:13
Pools. Or no, you said 90s.
1:01:16
Oh wait, he's not. What am I saying?
1:01:18
Or is he would have been. But it's not.
1:01:20
It's not pools. It's a stupid.
1:01:21
Guess it's. All right.
1:01:24
What was your guess a while back?
1:01:26
Like Mark Grace or something? Oh my gosh, the.
1:01:28
Mark Grace guess was in home run Legendary legendary now.
1:01:33
I thought you're talking about Mark.
1:01:34
Derosa Pools debuted in two. 1001 and he was 21 years old,
1:01:39
allegedly like 35. Oh, I just.
1:01:46
Had a name? Yeah.
1:01:48
Trout. Trout.
1:01:50
This is the reason why I changed it to rookie status, because he
1:01:54
only played a handful of games his first season but still had
1:01:57
rookie status. Yeah.
1:01:58
Had to get Trout. In there with his 30 homers,
1:02:01
Yeah, See. That's top on the list.
1:02:04
By the way. So he, OK, I was trying to get
1:02:07
trying to make sense if he was on the list, yeah.
1:02:09
Yeah, So what do we got? There's only one of.
1:02:15
These guys who did not win or was not a finalist for Rookie of
1:02:19
the Year. So you've got Trout, you've got
1:02:22
Soto, you've got Harper and you've got Griffey Junior.
1:02:25
How? Many you got, you got. 4 you
1:02:27
need 10. The one from the. 90s too
1:02:35
though, the one from the 90s who's coaching a WBC team.
1:02:43
Recent Hall of. Famer Son is playing on that WBC
1:02:48
team. What was?
1:02:54
What's like? In the countries.
1:02:58
Tried to bring the. WBC into this maybe we didn't
1:03:03
know he was coaching AWBC team that that's.
1:03:06
More than likely the case it'll ring a bell.
1:03:08
As soon as you say it, I'm trying.
1:03:10
I'm struggling, yeah. I mean, I'm struggling in.
1:03:14
More ways than one right now, but.
1:03:16
Yes, you are. That's the hardest.
1:03:21
So every other one other than that one, 2010 or more recent.
1:03:26
That's why I was trying to hit that one.
1:03:28
I mean like very recent Hall of Famer hasn't even given his
1:03:32
speech yet. Literally.
1:03:40
Going in this summer mate. You might have to get this.
1:03:45
Oh, Andrew Jones. There we go.
1:03:48
Thanks. There we go, smokes.
1:03:51
That helps all. Right now we can move on.
1:03:55
We're so now. Everybody else?
1:03:57
Yeah, everybody else. Netherlands, right?
1:04:01
Yes. Oh shoot, now as soon as you
1:04:05
asked that, I blanked. I think it is, yeah.
1:04:09
He's. From Curacao, yeah.
1:04:11
Netherlands, yeah. Which makes no.
1:04:12
Sense to me how that's the territory of the Netherlands,
1:04:17
but whatever. Yeah.
1:04:18
And Drew. Is playing on the team his son
1:04:20
Drew, is he? I did not know that.
1:04:24
All right. Talk about a bug.
1:04:25
All right, so everybody. Else left 2010 or more recent.
1:04:32
All right, let's. Let's do this, guy.
1:04:34
Come on, let's lock in. Oh, what do you mean?
1:04:35
Come on. I've gotten like all four of
1:04:37
them. What are you talking about?
1:04:41
Yeah, he has. He's got 5 reviews now, right?
1:04:44
4 review, right? Yeah, he did get oldest 1.
1:04:48
He got a rod. A.
1:04:49
Rod is not on this list. Well, he's.
1:04:52
On a list somewhere. Yeah, yeah, he.
1:04:53
He debuted at 18, but am I going to test I'm.
1:04:56
Here for the vibes, Yeah, he didn't get the.
1:04:58
Double digit homers or the OR the 100 games it's on the
1:05:02
Mitchell. List.
1:05:05
Oh, you think? Fernando was young enough.
1:05:11
No. How old was he?
1:05:14
Doesn't doesn't count because they didn't submit it.
1:05:17
Yeah, he could have been talking about.
1:05:19
Fernando Rodney. Who knows?
1:05:20
That's right, double. Digit home runs in 2010.
1:05:26
He did debut at. He did debut at 20.
1:05:31
It's think 20. 19, some young. Cats, man.
1:05:34
Oh, but he only. Played 84 games and then 59, the
1:05:37
2nd and then 130 and then a PE. Sneaky little like a Corey
1:05:43
Seger, No how. Was he?
1:05:46
Not much. Sneaky about this list.
1:05:48
Corey Seeger is a good. That's a good question though.
1:05:51
How old was he? I feel like he was pretty young.
1:05:53
Yeah. 21 shoot. And it was his second.
1:06:02
Season he only played 98 games. His second season got the
1:06:06
Laddie. There's one.
1:06:13
So we got 6. Of them now there's four left.
1:06:15
Good pull. That is a good pull.
1:06:20
Julio. Not Julio.
1:06:24
I like I would. Have liked that thought It felt
1:06:26
good about that. Not Julio.
1:06:27
So we've got 1-2. OK, OK, yeah, we've got two of
1:06:36
them. I.
1:06:38
Don't know if I want to give the.
1:06:39
Team away. I don't.
1:06:40
I don't know how far you want me to go here with the hints.
1:06:42
No. OK, no hints.
1:06:43
One of them exactly 100 games. That doesn't help me at all.
1:06:48
And it was not. A finalist in 2010.
1:06:54
But he had 20. 2 homers and he plays for Nate's team.
1:06:57
No Bailey. No 20100 I didn't hear.
1:07:11
That part, sorry. Kyle, I think, is getting it.
1:07:17
We have to give him an extra second.
1:07:19
He's working a little slower right now.
1:07:23
We're talking about. Stromboli, right?
1:07:27
Similar to. Pierogies, I'll tell you this.
1:07:29
When he came into the league, we, we, we called him a
1:07:32
different name than we call him now, Jean.
1:07:35
Carlo, Stan. That's it.
1:07:37
Jean Carlo Stanton is one of them.
1:07:39
Come on. So how did?
1:07:40
I beat you to that. Come on.
1:07:41
I don't know. There's three left.
1:07:44
There's 3. Left two of them same team, one
1:07:50
in 2010, one in 2018 and the other guy I will say signed a
1:07:57
contract extension either before he debuted or or days after.
1:08:03
Oh, Acuna, Acuna is. One of them sorry that wasn't.
1:08:06
That was a separate thought. I didn't know that was a
1:08:08
separate. Thought so.
1:08:09
He's he's the 2018. So somebody who also played for
1:08:12
that franchise is also on this list.
1:08:16
After 20. 10 it it's. It was actually in in 2010.
1:08:23
Frederick. Does he go back that far?
1:08:25
No. Oh, was this?
1:08:31
Oh, oh, was it Jason Hayward? You got it.
1:08:35
One left. This is the guy who signed the
1:08:37
deal. Go.
1:08:38
Impressive. Pull 2020. 4 debut, last one I
1:08:43
remember seeing. His his first home run on TV.
1:08:46
Yeah, it was awesome. Lemon, yeah.
1:08:48
Yeah, he looked like he was 42 years old.
1:08:51
Yes, One more name. One more name. 2024.
1:08:58
Signed a big. Deal 20.
1:09:00
Early big. Deal Jackson Holiday No.
1:09:08
No. What's the?
1:09:09
Caveat again, What are we guessing again?
1:09:12
It's 20 homers. Double digit homers 00 double.
1:09:17
Digit through the first. Yeah, double digit homers.
1:09:19
Yeah. This guy had 20.
1:09:22
One though it not he he played at least 100 games.
1:09:26
This guy played 148 like it was a full season.
1:09:28
Give us the. Division.
1:09:31
NL Central, one of the. Bright young stars in our game.
1:09:43
21 homers first two seasons. Wow, he's actually 22 steals the
1:09:51
1st 21 the 2nd 79 RB is the 1st 78 the second.
1:09:55
This guy's like, he just did the same thing again, Ellie De La
1:09:59
Cruz. Not.
1:10:00
Ellie Jackson, Cheerio. Jackson.
1:10:02
Cheerio Great job guys, well done.
1:10:06
Only took a week. Vibes.
1:10:11
You got to close this thing out, man.
1:10:12
Yeah. Sorry I had to bring.
1:10:14
Up Connor Griffin, man, he's just it's all good I.
1:10:17
Just didn't know where we were going with that.
1:10:19
You're like, hold on. Can we just talk about Conor
1:10:21
Griffin for a second? I'm like I wanted.
1:10:23
To talk about Conor Griffin for a second, I we're we're pretty
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pumped up right now. I think the whole league should
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be. Well, they should be.
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That sounds like they are, you said.
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Everybody's talking. Everybody's talking about.
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It nobody. 'S not, who isn't?
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Talking about Conor Griffin. All right, let's get out of
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here. Check out the shop.
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Join us on. Patreon just dropped a new
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change up today. Those are great, man.
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That's where we thrive. It's hard to talk side dishes
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for 14 minutes. And then keep an eye out for
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episode 600 or Hot Techs episode coming up soon.
1:11:03
Well. It's next month.
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It's next month, but sure enough.
1:11:07
All right, I'm dying. I got to get out of here.
1:11:09
JB. OK, USA.
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That's what I'm running with, Jim.
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I get like, no, it's it's not final temporary.
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Yeah, Josh. Is like borderline Get Me Out of
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this country. I Oh my.
1:11:25
Gosh, I don't know, cook them? Cook them up, lock them.
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Up, don't go. Chasing curveballs.
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I love. You all as.
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Always looking forward to talking more baseball with you
1:11:36
guys soon. Until next time, stay filthy.