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I Choose...Dancing with Joey Graziadei and Jenna Johnson Chmerkovskiy · I Choose Me with Jennie Garth

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garth. Hey, everyone,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to I Choose Me. This podcast is all about
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  Speaker 1: the choices we make and where they lead us. My
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  Speaker 1: guests today are absolutely crushing it as dance partners on
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  Speaker 1: the current season of Dancing with the Stars. We will
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  Speaker 1: get to them in just a little bit. But I
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  Speaker 1: can't do this without thinking about my own journey on
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  Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars. I was researching on my flight
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  Speaker 1: the other day. I was watching all of their dances
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  Speaker 1: back from the season so far so I could talk
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  Speaker 1: to them, and it got me thinking about my dances.
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  Speaker 1: So I started rewatching some of my dances on YouTube
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  Speaker 1: and just going down memory lane. And I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: it's just it got me thinking about my own I
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  Speaker 1: Choose Me moment decision back in two thousand and seven
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  Speaker 1: on season five to do the show. So I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to bring in my longtime man, mister showbiz Randy back
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  Speaker 1: onto the podcast. He was there with me and he
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  Speaker 1: knows he probably remembers it better than I do. So Hi, Randy,
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  Speaker 1: I will I'm thrilled to be back. Oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: can you believe that I did Dancing with the Stars
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  Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven. That was when Fiona was
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  Speaker 1: six months old and she's eighteen. Now.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's that's the crazy thing, because I've said this before.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing marks time like other people watching other people's children
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  Speaker 2: grow up. And the idea that Fiona's eighteen because I
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  Speaker 2: remember she was like a baby practically.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, in my arms like that kind of bait.
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  Speaker 2: That's completely mind boggling to me.
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  Speaker 1: And of course this season Tory was on Dancing with Stars.
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  Speaker 1: She was eliminated very early, which was very upsetting because
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  Speaker 1: she had so much potential to grow so much. That
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  Speaker 1: was fun watching her.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, well, I'm so proud of her though,
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  Speaker 2: because oh my god, right, it was Yeah, for so
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  Speaker 2: many years she was so afraid to do this, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, she really overcame all of her fears to
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  Speaker 2: go on the show, and not just her.
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  Speaker 1: Fears but her physical limitations. You know, guy, she has
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  Speaker 1: had five children by cesarean section. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Five c sections will do something to your core strength.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I was so proud of her.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it just really got me not only thinking
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  Speaker 1: about her and this couple, but also going down memory
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  Speaker 1: lane and thinking about my experience on Dancing with the Stars.
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  Speaker 2: That was wild, amazing, amazing.
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  Speaker 3: How did it.
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  Speaker 1: Even come about? How did this opportunity to do the
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  Speaker 1: show even come about?
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  Speaker 2: For me?
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the show hadn't been on that I mean, it
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  Speaker 2: had been on a few years and it was kind
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  Speaker 2: of just I think, hitting really hitting its stride of
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  Speaker 2: being a cultural phenomenon, and they reached out to me
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  Speaker 2: for you and you and I talked about it, and
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  Speaker 2: I think initially, I mean, you tell me, but my
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  Speaker 2: memory of it was that you we were both maybe
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  Speaker 2: a little bit on the fence about it because you were,
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  Speaker 2: you know, busy working as an actress, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: this just to do a reality show like this, We
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  Speaker 2: weren't sure, but we talked about it, and I think
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  Speaker 2: that you decided and I think I just we decided
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  Speaker 2: together that to look at this as a challenge. They
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  Speaker 2: took the producers at the time. I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: they do this anymore, but I don't know if you
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  Speaker 2: remember this, but the producers took us out to lunch
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  Speaker 2: before we committed to it. Conrad Green, who was the
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  Speaker 2: original executive producer, and Dina Katz took us to lunch
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  Speaker 2: and sort of walked us through everything, and we decided
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  Speaker 2: after that to go ahead and move forward with it.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't think you tell me. But I don't
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  Speaker 2: think you had any idea how physically challenging this was
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  Speaker 2: going to be. Is that really accurate?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? First of all, I don't remember any of this.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember this lunch you speak of. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think I thought it through it all, quite honestly, because
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  Speaker 1: I did. I had the three girls, and I was
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  Speaker 1: full time mom and working, and I did not think
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  Speaker 1: this through. I did not have any idea how much
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  Speaker 1: I would. You know, they kind of help told you, like,
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  Speaker 1: you will be rehearsing these days and taping these days.
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  Speaker 1: And I didn't know I'd be rehearsing for six or
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  Speaker 1: eight hours a day. And I only rehearsed that much
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  Speaker 1: because I really needed it, because I felt like I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't getting in, I wasn't prepared enough. And I remember
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  Speaker 1: when they introduced me to my dance partner, who was
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  Speaker 1: Derek Huff and that was his first season. He had
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  Speaker 1: literally gotten off a plane from London where he had
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  Speaker 1: been headlining like Footloose or something in London, and I
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  Speaker 1: only knew he was Julian's brother, and he had never
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  Speaker 1: done the show. That's all I knew about him. And
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, And I didn't have the
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  Speaker 1: ability to like look him up or back in two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and seven, I couldn't just there was not a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things I could look up on the internet
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  Speaker 1: at that time, absolutely right, there was no social media
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  Speaker 1: or anything. Right. But yeah, when I remember meeting him
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  Speaker 1: and thinking, oh my god, he's so young. He is
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  Speaker 1: a baby boy, and I just felt like a towering,
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  Speaker 1: like oh mom next to him, Like there was just
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  Speaker 1: such a weird discrepancy between us in my mind that
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  Speaker 1: it was really hard to come together as like a
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  Speaker 1: team with him, you know, it felt really weird. What
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  Speaker 1: did you think when when Derek was my dance partner,
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  Speaker 1: when they told us.
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  Speaker 2: Well, do you remember the day that you met him
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  Speaker 2: and where you were in the whole circumstance.
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  Speaker 1: I remember he came to our house.
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  Speaker 2: Right, you came to the house. We were in the backyard,
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  Speaker 2: sitting out by the swimming pool, and he came out,
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  Speaker 2: and I had seen pictures of him, but I had
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  Speaker 2: the exact same reaction because when he walked out and
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  Speaker 2: it was walking. I remember him walking around the pool
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  Speaker 2: and my thought was, he's like a kid. He looks
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  Speaker 2: like a teenager.
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  Speaker 1: How's he gonna lift her up?
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's the other thing I wanted to bring up
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  Speaker 2: with you, because I don't know how many of the
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  Speaker 2: fans follow you on Instagram and have seen your exercise videos.
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  Speaker 2: And if you haven't, ladies, you absolutely check it out.
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  Speaker 2: But right now, fitness is a major part of your life.
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  Speaker 2: It is, and I follow you and I watch your
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  Speaker 2: your your routines and it's amazing. But at the time,
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  Speaker 2: safe to say, fitness was not a major priority for you,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't think you realized what a physical challenge
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  Speaker 2: this was going to be. And I'll tell you you
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  Speaker 2: you were not in bad shape, but I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I don't right, you know, I can't stress that enough.
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  Speaker 2: No, absolutely, but I cannot believe how your body transformed
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  Speaker 2: during the course of Dancing with the Stars, because god right,
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  Speaker 2: you were literally, as you just said, rehearsing six to
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  Speaker 2: seven hours a day. Just think of the calorie burn
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  Speaker 2: alone from that, you know, And what I think happened
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  Speaker 2: with you is you had just made a decision that
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  Speaker 2: you were going to go for this and you decided
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  Speaker 2: to put everything into it. And I think people who
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  Speaker 2: go on this show they go one of two ways.
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  Speaker 2: They either rise to the occasion and rise to the challenge,
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  Speaker 2: or they decide I'm just going to go along for
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  Speaker 2: the ride and see what happens. But you definitely rose
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  Speaker 2: to the challenge and gave it everything you had and
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  Speaker 2: did really, really well on the show.
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  Speaker 1: I did not actually make the decision. The decision was
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  Speaker 1: sort of made for me, and especially not knowing what
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  Speaker 1: I was getting into, not really having had any live
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  Speaker 1: TV experience like to that extent, performing in front of
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  Speaker 1: the world. Basically, I was so out of my comfort
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  Speaker 1: zone I cannot even tell you. And I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: any other way to deal with it than to do
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  Speaker 1: my best to just jump in like you said, and
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  Speaker 1: like go for it because that was the only option
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  Speaker 1: for me, or look like an idiot on national television
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  Speaker 1: right now. You didn't want to do that.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing about you. Anything that you've ever decided
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  Speaker 2: to put your mind to, you've given it one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, when you decided to become an actress, you
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  Speaker 2: gave it one hundred percent. That was not something you
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  Speaker 2: didn't grow up as a child actor, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: and so you jumped into two classes and studying and
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  Speaker 2: all of that, and I think you took that same
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  Speaker 2: work ethic. Both your mother and your father had a
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  Speaker 2: great work ethic. They both worked their whole lives. And
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  Speaker 2: your father you grew up on a farm, and your
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  Speaker 2: father would go to work all day the for the
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  Speaker 2: at school and teaching and then come home and you know,
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  Speaker 2: go and work the back forty of the farm. So
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  Speaker 2: you grew up with two parents modeling a strong work
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  Speaker 2: ethic for you, and I think you've applied that to
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  Speaker 2: everything that you've done.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they just instilled in me like even if it's work,
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  Speaker 1: it's to be something that you're passionate about and that
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  Speaker 1: passion will drive you and actually make your work fun.
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  Speaker 1: Like he loved teaching and he loved being on the
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  Speaker 1: tractor just as much. And my mom's same, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So that I feel like anything I do, whether it's
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  Speaker 1: work or not considered work, if I put my passion
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  Speaker 1: into it, it's because I want to spend my time
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  Speaker 1: having fun and loving what I do. So yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: why I choose to not do some things now as
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  Speaker 1: I've gotten older, and I realized, you know that you
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  Speaker 1: can say no to things. It's okay. I wonder if
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  Speaker 1: I would, like I always think, would I do Dancing
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  Speaker 1: with the Stars again? Would I do that now? Because
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  Speaker 1: people my age are doing it and older? If they
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  Speaker 1: came to me now and I had never done it before,
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  Speaker 1: when I do it now, what would would you recommend
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  Speaker 1: that I do it?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, had you not done it before right at
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  Speaker 2: this moment in time, I don't think I would, only
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  Speaker 2: because safe to say, I don't think you've ever been
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  Speaker 2: busier than you are right now, so it's pretty hard
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  Speaker 2: for you to even have time to, you know, go
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  Speaker 2: out to dinner. So the I don't know where we
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  Speaker 2: would fit it into your schedule.
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  Speaker 1: And not to mention the hips of it all, Well.
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  Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. But you know what I think,
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  Speaker 2: I think that you would. You would rise above that.
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  Speaker 2: So the good news is you've already done it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't have to do it.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to do it again. You've crossed that
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  Speaker 2: off your bucket list. Let me ask you something, how many?
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  Speaker 2: Because you know, I think anybody who's a fan of
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  Speaker 2: yours now knows that you don't have the greatest memory.
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  Speaker 2: But how many of the couple of the stars from
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  Speaker 2: your season do you remember?
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  Speaker 1: Can I name?
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  Speaker 2: Can you name? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I can only do this because I saw some clips. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: my birthday Buddy, the Vegas Guy, amazing performer Wayne Newton,
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  Speaker 1: Jane Seymour right, the Cheetah Girl, Sabrina Bryant, Elio Castro
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  Speaker 1: Novez Lobby he was, but she was my friend, like
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  Speaker 1: we we bonded, we hung out. Yeah, I love Sabrina. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Karen Matheson who also went on to work with me
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  Speaker 1: and be friends with me. Let's see, let's see, let's see.
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  Speaker 1: Uh oh uh Melby right, Harry Spice. I was scared
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  Speaker 1: of her at first, but I loved her and when
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  Speaker 1: I got to know her, hush is who else? My
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  Speaker 1: Marie Osmond?
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  Speaker 4: Did I say?
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  Speaker 2: Is that it?
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  Speaker 1: I don't. Oh wait wait the big guy on the
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  Speaker 1: on the Shark, the Shark guy.
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  Speaker 2: A Mark Cuban. Now that that blew my mind. When
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  Speaker 2: I went. I had to look it up myself before
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  Speaker 2: I came on, and I had forgot. How did I
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  Speaker 2: forget that Mark Cuban was on your season? I know
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  Speaker 2: that's wild?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just.
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  Speaker 1: Remember being like I made the semi finals, and I
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  Speaker 1: was so like just being the mom and trying to
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  Speaker 1: jugglell that and trying to keep my husband happy during
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  Speaker 1: that time, and you know, worrying about all all the things.
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  Speaker 1: When they call my name that night and told me
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  Speaker 1: that I was going home, I was like, thank god, Oh, seriously, curiously,
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  Speaker 1: I was so ready to go home. And I knew
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  Speaker 1: also that we were coming up into the finals where
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  Speaker 1: you had to do like all these crazy things.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So I was like, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I wanted to ask you because at the time,
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  Speaker 2: you and Peter Batchinelli were married, and I actually was
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  Speaker 2: managing both of you at the time, and right, and
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  Speaker 2: I know that you know, a lot of couples when
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  Speaker 2: there's their spouse, husband or wife go on to the
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  Speaker 2: show's it's a little weird for if they don't come
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  Speaker 2: out of the dance community where that's a fairly normal thing.
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  Speaker 2: And I remember Peter was, especially when he saw young
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  Speaker 2: Derek kuff Strutton strutting past the pool in the backyard,
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  Speaker 2: he was a little like, Okay, I don't know about this.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine him being threatened by Derek
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  Speaker 1: Cuffey literally looked like a teenager.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's true. And by the way, Peter one of
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  Speaker 2: the most handsome men still in America, right, he had Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He had seemingly great confidence too. Yes, yes, but I
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  Speaker 1: do remember me having to remind him the absurdity of
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  Speaker 1: any concerns that he would have, because I just felt
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  Speaker 1: like Derek was like a brother to me, Like he
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  Speaker 1: felt like my little brother, and so when anything would
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  Speaker 1: arise like that, I'd be like, are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 1: Like what? But yeah, there, I remember a couple of
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  Speaker 1: moments of seeing that confidence armor come down and him,
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  Speaker 1: you know, during heated argument, I remember him saying, you know, like,
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  Speaker 1: how do you think I feel with you spending all
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  Speaker 1: your time touching bodies with this guy? You know, like,
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  Speaker 1: I know it wasn't as easy for him as he
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  Speaker 1: wanted it to seem, but he covered it pretty well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you're not if you don't come out
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  Speaker 2: of the dance world that kind of intimacy. And by
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  Speaker 2: the way, plenty of dancers and their partners on that
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  Speaker 2: show have ended up together well yeah, a period of
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  Speaker 2: time or potentially forever, so you know, it's not completely
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  Speaker 2: completely unwarranted.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, can you imagine if I had left
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  Speaker 1: Peter and our marriage for Derek Cuff? That would have
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  Speaker 1: been weird in that moment that seven. Yeah, Robin the Cradle.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, oh my god, so much fun going down memory
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  Speaker 1: lane with you. Thank god you have. You have a
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  Speaker 1: really good memory, Randy for a guy your age, Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god. Okay, I'm just I'm really excited to dive
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  Speaker 1: into this interview. So I'm going to say goodbye to you.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 2: Watch, Okay, I'm looking forward to it, all right, okay, bye.
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  Speaker 1: Bye, Okay, So I'm so excited to get into this interview.
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  Speaker 1: Please welcome former Bachelor Joey Grazzida and pro dancer and
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  Speaker 1: mirror ball champion Jenna Johnson Schmerkovsky to the I Choose
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  Speaker 1: Me Podcast. I'm so excited to have you both on.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you for taking time from your busy, busy,
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  Speaker 1: busy schedule. I know how busy you guys are right now.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you for having us. We're excited.
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  Speaker 1: It's today, a rehearsal day, a tape day. What's happening?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so we already had rehearsal this morning for.
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  Speaker 1: How many hours? Four? Four hours I was rehearsing like
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  Speaker 1: six or eight hours a day because I needed it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think once it gets closer to the end,
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  Speaker 4: the hours will start increasing for sure.
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  Speaker 1: You guys are just absolutely crushing it on this season. Joey,
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  Speaker 1: It's like you came out of the gate swinging. You
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  Speaker 1: said that you've played the drums and that you've incorporated
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  Speaker 1: into a dance number. Amazing. You were a cheerleader, so
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  Speaker 1: you have that, like, you know, flip ability, which is
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  Speaker 1: working out for you. Did you have any dance experience
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  Speaker 1: prior to this.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't have any dance experience, and I always need
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  Speaker 5: to clear up the fact that I wasn't actually a
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  Speaker 5: cheerleader because it was so funny how that all came
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  Speaker 5: about I did. If you've ever heard of powderpuff cheerleading,
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  Speaker 5: it was really big at my high school where the
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  Speaker 5: girls played football and the guys learned how to be cheerleaders,
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  Speaker 5: and for us it was like a big pep rally thing.
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  Speaker 5: So that was the first time I ever started doing stunts,
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  Speaker 5: which is where I learned how to backflip and learning,
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  Speaker 5: I guess a little bit of choreography, nothing like what
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  Speaker 5: I'm doing with Jenna, So I guess that would be
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  Speaker 5: my past experience. It's definitely helped with doing some fun
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  Speaker 5: things on the show, but no, I really haven't had
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  Speaker 5: any like actual dance classes. I came in kind of
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  Speaker 5: a as new as I could be and just try
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  Speaker 5: to listen to Jenna and everything that everyone's seeing. The
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  Speaker 5: reason why it's looked good has really just been because
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  Speaker 5: of her and me trying to be a good student.
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  Speaker 1: I know you've got the best pro You're so lucky.
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  Speaker 3: I'm very aware.
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  Speaker 4: He definitely is a capable body. He's very athletic, he's
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  Speaker 4: very smart, and he's willing to try anything, which is
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  Speaker 4: which is really helpful in this process.
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  Speaker 1: You should add that to your resume, A capable body.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that's a good title. I'll take that.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Jenna, you're just such a talented, talented dancer. How old
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: were you when you go into the dance world. I'm curious,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: must have been very young.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: Yes, I started actually when I was three, and I
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: never stopped. I always knew that I loved it, but
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: I started, you know, doing like the little kids ballet, jazz,
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: tap classes, the little combo classes, and then I started
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: learning ballroom when I was about eight, So that's where
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: it all began for me.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. And this was in Utah, right, yes, yes, yes,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: So Utah is becoming like the it place now with
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Julienne and Derek are both from Utah.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: Uh huh. If you remember Chelsea high Tower who used
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: to be on the show, she was also from Utah.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: Lindsay Whitney, Riley, Ezra Steffans.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Such a dance scene coming out of there, It's wild.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, So I have to ask you with all these
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Utah TV shows popping up now, the Secret Lives of
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Mormon Wives and the Houselives Assault, like I just need
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: to know is that accurate? Like you know Utah culture?
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: I wish that I had time to watch all I knows.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: And it's interesting because I know a couple of girls
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: that are on the new Secret Live show. I haven't
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: had time because it aired while in season. I've heard
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of tea, so I need to get
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: caught up as soon as we're done with this show.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: But again, I can't speak on it because I haven't
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: fully fully invested myself yet. But listen, I'm here to
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: put Utah on the map, so let's keep the buzz alive.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: You're doing it, you're probably gonna see one of them,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: you know, next year in the cast. I would imagine.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: One was in the audience this past taping, So.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there comes, there comes. It's so intimidating to do
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: this show. I know firsthand. And U Joe, did you
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: realize what you were signing up for when you agree
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: to do this?
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Yes? And no.
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: I was lucky enough to know some people that were
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: on the show, so I got to ask some questions.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: But it's the same with everything.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: You ask questions, but you don't really know the right
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: questions to ask, And after doing it, I would have
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: asked so many different questions coming in because you want
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: to know about what the time commitment, You want to
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: know kind of about how tough it could be on
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: your body and all these things, but you don't think
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: about until it gets to that crunch time of what
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: it's like actually to go out there on stage, and
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: you don't think about how much pressure you feel every
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: week to keep delivering good dances and that, like I
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: don't know the feeling that people forget that right before
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: you get out there, you get these butterflies of like
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: excitement but also nerves, and also you start questioning even
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: how to walk, let alone dance, and just all these
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: things start coming into your head. And that part was
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: so much more intense than I could have imagined. And
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: I'm addicted to that feeling, but I'm also terrified of it.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Every week.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: It's a very interesting back and forth and all the
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: mental that comes with this, I think is so hard
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: to explain.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: You just kind of have to do it to understand
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: what it's like.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I still I think I have PTSD from the
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: announcer announcing a now dancing the jet cha and then
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: they say your name. I swear every time I hear that,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I kind of get the anxiety in my body, the feeling.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: That ten cow comes in quick.
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: You hear ten nine, and all of a sudden, you
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: start hearing your name. You're like, oh, to dance right now,
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: let's do this, and you.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Forget everything you've been taught that you just have to
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: pray that it comes back to you.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: I said it to all my friends.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: I think I even said in some of the press
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: stuff I did that tango we did, which I think
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: has maybe been one of our strongest, if not our
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: strongest dance yet was the first time I fully blacked out.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: I have no recollection of that entire dance. I came
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: to right when I like threw Jenna through my legs.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: I was like, wait, was it good? I think I
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: asked her when I.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Pulled it up, like was it good?
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: Because I just totally blanked But you do it so much,
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: it just starts to be in your body.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's the key. Maybe you should try that's your goal,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: blackout every time.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: I wish that would make it.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Just like, you know, don't black out Jenna. You know
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: everybody knows you're married to fellow pro dancer Val Yes,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: and he and his partner Phedra were voted out.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: Yes, very sad. Yes, so that you guys.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Were rooting each other on obviously during the competition. I'm
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: just curious, like, when you take your dance shoes off
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: at night and you go home to your life, does
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: talk shop.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Yes and no. There's like a fine balance because obviously
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: he knows what I'm feeling. I know what he's feeling,
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: and it's hard not to bring that stress into our
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: own personal life and at home. I think, especially now
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: that we've become parents, we are way more strict about
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: going home and just being ourselves and husband and wife
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: and parents to our son. But yes, he's very invested
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: in now that he's eliminated, he's been full throttle into
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: what is going on with me and Joey, and he's like, listen,
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: I want you guys to bring it. So I really
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: love his support. But yeah, you know, it's hard to
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: like try to separate and be like, oh, I'm not
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: going to talk about dance, because we have so much
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: dance in our life. It's crazy. Yeah, our whole world
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: is danced, and so it's nice to kind of just
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: like separate and just the humans for a second at home.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: But I then do have the luxury of being like, hey, babe,
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: can you try this eight count with me? Can you
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: see if this lift works? Can you see if this
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: feels nice? So I feel really grateful in that aspect.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: That's that's good. That's good to have that kind of
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: support and that kind of shared experience is so valuable.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Yes it is. I mean I don't know if I
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: would be able to do the show without him, and
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: without him his knowledge, his expertise, and just his full support.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: It's incredible.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I love that. Okay, so you be honest, is it
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: ever uncomfortable for you guys to dance like sensually with
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: one another when you're partners and the whole world are watching?
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Because I know that was super weird for me.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: I will let Joey answer because it's for me at all,
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: because I've been doing this for my whole life and
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: I'm you know, a plenty of partners where this is
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: my work, this is what, this is my craft, this
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: is my artistry. So it's not weird for me. But
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: I definitely have like a level of respect for everybody
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: that jumps into this process and is willing to throw
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: themselves into fully accepting like the character each week. But yeah,
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: I'll let Joey. Joey answer this one.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't say it's weird. I would say the word
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: I always use is like hesitant. I think that when
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: you come into it, it feels just odd to be
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: like taking charge in a dance and being more physical
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: and getting into someone's space, because if you've never done
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: it before, you just like it just doesn't feel I
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: guess right to do it right away, so it doesn't
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: feel weird, especially now I've been doing it as long
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: and how comfortable and Jen and I have gotten it's
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: not as much a thing, but I do need reminders
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: sometimes to be more closer and being in the space
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: and listening to her when that's the time to do it,
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: when you're supposed to be here, when.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: You're not supposed to be here.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: So at this point it's just like she I listened
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: to direction, I go into it. But I do remember
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: when you first start, you know you have to grab her,
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: and it's like, wait, I wouldn't grab this like it's
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: this physical and be this close to someone.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: It just doesn't feel right necessarily. So yeah, the word
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: I would use is hesitant because it's new.
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: But then once you learn what it's supposed to be
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: and you start to feel what these moves are, then
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: at the end of the day it just feels like.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: I'm listening to my coach and doing dance moves.
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: So we're at the point where I wouldn't say it's
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: as weird as it was in the beginning.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's so true what you say, because
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: if you haven't danced like close contact, danced like that,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: it's not doesn't come naturally to people, like like you said,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: like I wouldn't just step right up and be so
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: close body on body to somebody that you know. I
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: don't know that well, so I totally get that.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: Also, if you're like not used to having to act
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: or like play a role, trying to tell somebody to
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: to like, I think this is a funny concept. I
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: don't know if you've faced this or felt this at all,
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: but like Joey, this week, you're going to be sexy,
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: Like what is your sexy face? How do you tell
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: someone like you know to put on this like performance
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: or character. It's it's really hard to teach that. And
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: I think that's something that joe is excelled in. Is
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: he just naturally is a great performer. I don't know
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: where it came from. I'm so grateful for it. But
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: that is a funny concept as well of like, you know,
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: we're doing the rumba, you've got to be like sensual
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: and like what does that mean for your face? What
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: does that mean for your performance? Unless you're really used
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: to acting or a dance before. So that's something that
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: I think is one of Joey's strengths this season.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: For sure, you have instincts, Joey, maybe you should be
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: an actor next.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: I know who knows.
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: I never thought i'd be here today talking to you
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: and dance about national television.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: So I have no idea what's going to be next.
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: But yeah, the performance part has surprisingly been one of
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: my favorite things of Once you know the dance, you
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: just get the ability to go out there and like
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: act as you're supposed to. And I'm really excited for
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: having that with Halloween this week, Like it's just going
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: to be a new thing. So yeah, it's been surprising
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: because it was one of the things I was the
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: most nervous about, but as I've gotten more weeks under
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: my belt, it's actually one of my things I look
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: forward to the most. Is when I'm like, Okay, I
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: know these steps. Now, I can start thinking about how
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: I'm going to perform. And we usually don't hit those
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: until like end of the day on Saturday or starting
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: on Sunday, we start talking about that, and that's when
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: I actually get the most excited about our dances, and
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: when we start thinking about how we're going.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: To perform, it all comes together. Your fiance beautiful Kelsey.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: She addressed comments in the beginning of the season. You
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: know how they are. She said that you gave her
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: the security and the reassurance that she needs. How do
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: you do that? How do you give that to your
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: partner in this extraordinary experience that you're in.
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: I don't know if there's an easy answer to that,
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: because I'm still learning that every day. I think in general,
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: partner you're trying to always make them feel reassured and
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: secure in the relationship, and this is just one of
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: those situations where it's so chaotic and I'm not to
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: be with her as physically as much as I would
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: like to because I'm always away with dance, and then
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: on top of it, you add this element of outside
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: noise and it's all new. But for me, what I
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: continue to try to do is stay present when I
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: am with her, really try to have a gauge on
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: where her emotions are at so I can understand what
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: I need to be doing.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: But I'm still learning that every day. And we actually
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: had to talk.
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: About this the other day, which was amazing to hear
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: where her head's at with a lot of this. She
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: gave me like a sweet message and said, I hope
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: when you get these questions you start deflecting them, because
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: I want this to be about you and your journey.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: I don't want this to be about how I'm handling
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: and how we're handling all this, which is like so
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: sweet that she's saying that, But at the same time
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: I understand and Jenna understands, it does come with the territory.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: So to see where we've.
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: Come from week one to now, I think has been
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: amazing just because it is all new, but we're both
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: still figuring it out because we're both still new to
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: being in a public relationship. And we've actually leaned on
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: Jenna and Bow and asked a lot of questions because
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: they've been doing this a lot longer of what all
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: that's like.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: But yeah, no easy answer that one. I'm figuring it
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: out every day.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm sure Jennifer, you you get tons of comments,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: like you know, you and your husband, it's got to
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: be something that can weigh on you or can like
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: just come into your experience and it's you don't need it.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: It's like unnecessary, like you said, Joey Noise. Yeah, and
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: you guys handle that well together, I'm assuming since you're
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: both pros at this.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we do our best, but yeah, I think you
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: know it's it's not as abrace up to us because
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: it is something that we do. We have experienced multiple times,
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: and even more so when Val and I became a
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: public couple that was very jolting for fans. They wanted
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: him with every single partner that he was with and
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: definitely not me. So we've experienced it. I now I
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: don't have time for anymore. It doesn't bother me because again,
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm used to it, but I'm also so secure
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: in my relationship and what my job is as a
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: pro on Dancing with the Stars. But it's it's sad
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: that people have to go to those lengths to try
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: to make people feel some type of way and can't
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: just celebrate the beauty of like, this is such a
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: beautiful journey that you're about to go on en a
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: once in a lifetime opportunity that's only three months long.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: So I think in the beginning it was a little
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: not defeeding, but it was a little sad that it
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: just had to be those comments, especially targeted at Kelsey.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: But I feel like as soon as week one happened
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: and week two, people are now just supportive, And I
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: think it's you know that initial shock of like, oh,
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: these two are next to each other and then now
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: it's just been nothing but support. So I think it's
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: that initial shock needed to wear off, and now fans
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: have just been so beautiful and so supportive of our journey.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I love that. Okay, doing the show is a major
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I Choose me moment because it it's a big decision
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: and you have to go into it ultimately doing it
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: for yourself. But it's also a choice to wake up
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: every day and to choose to stay and work at relationships.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: And being that the show is in such an out
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: of the normal environment, what choices are you both making
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: on how to prioritize your partner even you know, with
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: your busy schedules when you're off the dance floor, Because
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I know how busy your schedules are, and I know
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: how long you're rehearsing, and I know how consuming all
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: consuming this is for those three months, Like do you
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: have to at the beginning of your day or your
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: week like schedule in time with your partner. How do
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: you keep you know your partner priority amidst all of this,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: because it's so important.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: For sure, I can just speak on behalf of myself.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: But I think leading up to the season val and
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: I both kind of prep ourselves, like, all right, we
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: know what storm is a to hit, let's prepare ourselves.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: So this season, we actually right before we started, we
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: went on a family vacation, just the three of us,
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: and it was so nice to just regroup and enjoy
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: those moments of doing nothing. And then I think also
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: during the season, like you said, it's so important to
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: take time and be like we need a date night,
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: or we need to just like snuggle for two hours uninterrupted,
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: or we need to just like talk and catch up
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: on life. And so I think prioritizing those moments and
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: really reconnecting communication is huge and our relationship, and so
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: I think the more that we're vocal and talking and
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: just checking in with each other to see where we're at,
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: the better I am just personally and then in our relationship.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: So I think just like those recheck in moments, and
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: then also understanding that there is a finish line at.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: The end of the day, right for it's temporary.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: It's temporary. So just knowing that, like I can do anything,
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: how many more weeks we have four something for four
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: more weeks and put my heart soul into it. So
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: I have no regrets at the end of this. That's
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: kind of always my mentality going into the season, and
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: especially when you have a good partner like Joey that'll
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: understands like you need to give everything and you need
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: to do this for you because next season, you don't
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: know where you're going to be, you don't know what
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: partner you're going to have, So I think having that
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: mindset is important absolutely.
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: Joey, Yeah, I would say mine's definitely a little different
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: because we didn't.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Know what it was going to be like exactly, and.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: We came off of a TV show where we had
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: all the chaos for three months in a row before
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: I did this, which was fun because we traveled around
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: a lot and did a lot of things, but then
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: we also didn't get as much time to actually, I
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: don't know, stay in our own little bubble in our
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: world maybe.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: As much as we'd like to.
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: So we were actually excited for this too because it
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: was the first time we got our own place to
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: ourselves and the first time we've got to kind of start.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: I can't think of other way than just saying playing.
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: House and starting to actually be a real couple in
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: a spot that felt like ours, which was really exciting.
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: But then what I try to do to help with
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: all the chaos is have like a reset, because you
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: come back from practice and you're drink, you're tired, and
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: Kelsey is.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: So good at giving me.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: I usually ask for like five to ten minutes where
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: I'll literally just pop my butt down on the couch
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: and just sit there and do nothing and just like
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: stare out into space. And then as soon as I
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: feel and I have those five to ten minutes, I
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: tell her all about my day. I ask how her
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: day was, and we just have that open communication to
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: see what I've missed, what she's missed, and I try
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: to bring as much energy to that conversation as I
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: did the entire time I was at Dancing with the Stars.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: And when I do that well, it seems to really
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: help with get us back on the same wavelength. And
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: as you said, we schedule in as much dinners as
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: we can. If she has family in town, if she
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: has friends in town, I make sure I spend the
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: time to go get dinner with her. We've kind of
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: made Tuesday nights a ritual where sometimes we'll do stuff
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: with Jenna and Val sometimes we'll do stuff with the
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: people that are visiting, but we always get time to
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: catch up and see each other then, And it's just
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: the little things, as Jenna said, trying to when you
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: do have that uninterrupted time, making the most of it.
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: Whether it's snuggling on the couch, whether it's watching a
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: TV show and just being next to each other, whether
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: it's talking about our day. We just try to find
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: those little moments in the chaos and do the best
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: we can at it.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: You guys aren't just killing it on the show, You're
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: killing it in real life with these relationship goals. I mean,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I'm inspired just listening to both of you have basically
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: your shit together and know what it takes.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: And bake until you met it the deal right now.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Well, whatever it takes, whatever it takes, so you sound
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: wise beyond your years for those just the you know,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I need five or ten minutes to get home and
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: just stare at a wall because I need to come down.
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because if I didn't, I would it would seem
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: like I wasn't present in the conversation.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: And I just have been.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: Vocal about that, Like I literally am still thinking about
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: the last eight count I did and how I messed
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: up that last dance move, like I just need a
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: second if I didn't get enough in the car, and
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: then I give her as much as I can when
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: I get that time, and that's helped a lot.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know when I was on it, I had
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: a six month old and three daughters at that time,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: and they were all super young, and I was married,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: and life was crazy enough before the show, and then yeah,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: it just got like indescribably hectic and so shutting off
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: my mind coming home to the kids and like jumping
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: right back into what's for dinner? And you know, did
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: you do your homework? All the things a mom does,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: and then all the things that a wife needs to do.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: It's like, ah, there's not enough time in the day
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: or enough bandwidth in my brain to manage it all.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: So kudos.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: I don't get to complain at all. If that's the
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: what you came back to, Yes, exactly, I'll never complain
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: once again. Is all that I just took from that.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: That's good. That's good. The show is such a sure
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: cooker of emotions. I know it was for me, especially
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: as the competition goes on. It's stressful. It's fun, but
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: it's stressful. What are each of you doing to unwine
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: or do as self care. Mm hmm, that Chuck will
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: tell me a lot.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: No, I think you know. I love coming home. I
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: love a bubble bath. Like if I have a night
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: where I can just do a bubble bath and just
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: lock everything out, that's when I'm at peace. Also just
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: doing like for me, it's doing little things of being
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: mom and having the time to do that. I feel
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: like that brings me a lot of happiness. Although I
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: do feel like I have to be on. I really
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: feel I'm not at my best when I'm missing my
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: son and when i feel avoid So this last this
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: past week was really really chaotic with Disney Night. We
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: had our individual dance, we had a team dance, we
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: had an opening numbers pros. I think every day I
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: started at five point forty five and was home at
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: like seven, and I felt not myself and I realized
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: I just was missing my son and I felt like
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: part of my heart was gone all week. And so
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: yesterday Valin I went to the pumpkin patch with Rome,
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: our little boy, and I just like felt replenished. I
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: felt my cup fully fill back up and then I'm reinspired.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: I have more energy. So it's doing those things that
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: you know are going to bring you a lot of happiness,
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: but bubble bath in some realm time.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: I could definitely do better at this.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: As she said, I think that sometimes I am so
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: in this whole experience and putting so much energy towards it,
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: and I forget to give myself some time and do
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: things that I enjoy doing. But for me, it's really
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: just getting some type of alone time. For me, I'm
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: very simple in this regard. I've realized that when I
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: give too much too people, when I give too much
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: to things that I'm doing and I don't just give
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: myself the ability to take it in and let my
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: mind just kind of wander and actually think about what's
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: going on in my head, I will always feel kind
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: of jostled and all over the place. And she hit
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: last week exactly kind of was how I felt too.
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: I mean, we just had such a long week, and
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: we had I had extra things like a photo shoot
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: to go with Kelsey. I had to go to dinner
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: one night with her and her family, and I say
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: had to, like I wanted to go do this stuff,
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: but I did all of it, and I realized I
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: never gave myself that ability to give thirty minutes to
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: maybe just have some time to yourself.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: I'm not a big meditation person.
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: I just like to kind of have blank's time and
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: blank space where I just let.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: My mind wander.
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: So I did that a lot more these last couple
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: of days, and I need to keep doing that more
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: of just giving myself the ability to think about what's
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: going on, be grateful for things, organize some stuff in
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: my head, and then go back to the chaos right after.
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I just I just try to carve out
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: little pieces of time.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: I don't need to be doing much.
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: I just need to be able to take it back
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: for a second, and that usually helps a lot.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I'm on board with both of you. Bubble baths are
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: my sanctuary.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: They sound nice. I don't do them.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: You should.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: You gotta try it. Epsom salts is you need the
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Epsom salts bath while you're doing this, Joey curious. I
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: also spend a lot of time in my head too,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: and I found, like when I'm so busy, if I'm
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: driving somewhere, to just have silence and just be with
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: myself in the car and let my mind do what
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: you said, Like Rome and think things through that just
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: needs to process. That was really helpful for me. So
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: just turn the radio down, turn the music off, don't
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: call anybody on your drive, just be with yourself. That helps, sure,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: for sure, for sure, you know you're deep in the competition. Now,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: it's not just about dance. It's about pushing yourself, It's
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: about perseverance. What would you say that each of you
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: have learned about yourselves through this experience, especially you, Joey,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: since this is your first time.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: I'm still learning a lot right now.
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing that I've learned is that
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: I definitely am a hard worker, which I've always really
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: tried to hold on to. I know that I'm not
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: going to give up and put everything I can to this.
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: I hope Jenna feels that way, because I really do
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: try every day even if I am not maybe doing
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: the best of my steps or feel a little bit off.
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: I don't ever want to like give up. I want
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: to put everything into it. But I think the biggest
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: thing I've learned about myself is this game time type
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: mentality thing that is still so new for me, because
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: you don't get put in that situation that much. Jenna
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: can attest to sometimes where we're like about to go
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: on stage and I am in my head, I am
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: rethinking every single little detail. An example would be that
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: tango night again, we did a drum fill and I
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: did I had to do a fill and I had
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: to match it up perfectly, and five seconds before showtime hit,
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: Jenna asked me to do it.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: I did nothing close to what the actual beat was like.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: I was completely offbeat and I felt it. I felt
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: her energy right behind me. She was like, Oh, no,
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: this is gonna be bad. And then something.
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: I didn't say anything, though, I just thought.
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: I was like, you're like, oh, this is gonna be anything,
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: and I don't know.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Something.
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: Again that night, the moment clicks, and I just have
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: been able to bring something every time, and it's different
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: every time, but I just have been able to deliver
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: when it matters most.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: And something about that has given me a really.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: Great feeling, like, Okay, I guess in crunch time, I'm
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: gonna come when I need to. So probably that and
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: the ability of just how much effort you have to
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: put in. I've been really happy with putting in the
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: hard work. So I've learned that about myself.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: I guess.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: So.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: I think that's valuable information for you to know about
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: yourself because you know that just doesn't pertain to this experience.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Like in the rest of your life, you know, you
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: can rely on your instincts and yourself when in those
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: moments of high stress and high pressure and sort of
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: alleviate some of that what we do to ourselves when
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: we freak out, you know, all.
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: The worry that isn't necessary. It's wasted energy if you
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: really just trust in yourself. And that's what I'm trying
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: to do better at each week, is not have that
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: worry because there's a mix. You have to be caring
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: enough and thinking about it, but then you can't have
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: wasted energy if you trust in yourself at the same.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Time, definitely, and you have to come prepared like you
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: have to do the work, and then at just some
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: point just give it.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Up and trust it. Yeah, trust it.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Yep, it's hard. It's so hard. Joe. You have opened
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: up about your Jillbear syndrome, which affects your liver, and
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: for those of us that don't know much about it,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: can you explain that and tell us kind of like
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: when did you realize you had it? And how does
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: it affect your life?
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I probably should get more knowledgeable on this since
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: I have it, but I will explain it the best
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: that I can from what I was told and just
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: things that I've been paying it to attention to.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: I found out when I was in high school.
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: I was sick for a pretty long extended period of time,
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: and I just remember telling my mom, like, I just
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: feel off, like I feel very fatigued, Like it's just
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: hard to be doing normal things right now. So she
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: got to the point of saying, well, we should go
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: to the hospital or like go to urgent care or
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: the doctor and just like figure it out. So we
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: didn't go to the emergency room. We went to the
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: primary doctor and they recommended getting a blood test. And
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: when I got my blood test, my Billy rubin count
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: spiked very high, which usually scares people and think it's
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: something along with hepatitis, something that could be wrong with
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: your liver. So then I had to go to the
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: hospital and get an ultrasound of my liver. I believe
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: it's an ultrastounds is the correct way to say it,
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: but again I'm no doctor. But they checked and there
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: was no abnormalities to it, and then I went to
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: a specialist who explained what it probably meant, and it
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: was Jolbert syndrome, which from what they described it as
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: is it's like a sponge in terms of your liver,
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: and most people when they have water have any type
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: of electrolytes or hydration come through their body. It soaks
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: up very nicely and then lets it out very nicely.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: But what happens with.
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: Mine is my sponges already ringed out and dry, so
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: when it tries to have all this nice filtration, it
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: doesn't work, and that affects the yellow of my eyes.
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: When I get stressed, if I don't drink enough fluids,
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: I can get very fatigued, I can be a little
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: bit more on the tired side, and visually people can
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: tell because again when I did the TV show, which
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: is why I had to talk about it, when you
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: get no sleep, when you're stressed about dating so many
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: women and you have so much pressure on yourself.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: My eyes were very yellow on television.
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: It was very obvious that something was off, and I
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: just had to finally talk about it because I just
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: was tired of seeing it be a comment every single day.
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: And again, I want to go and get more knowledge
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: on this. I haven't been able to do as much
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: as I would like to because of how crazy schedules
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: have been. But I would like to get more understanding
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: because my sister just recently got tested and she has
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: it too, and that was because of the fact that
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: she was feeling similar things. So it's something in our family.
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: You can live with it fully. It's not anything that's
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: supposed to I guess stop me in any way.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: But I do need to be aware of my hydration.
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: I literally am drinking Gatorade light right now because I
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: felt a little fatigue coming back from practice to get
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: some more electrolytes and just get more fluids in my system.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: And that's that's the history I know of it.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Well, I didn't notice your eyes at all. I was
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: so engrossed in your journey that I didn't really see it.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: So there you have it.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: You did, but a lot of other people did.
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm me, yeah, comment on every single thing I
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: would do that was just like this.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: The whole time, So I didn't notice. But yeah, I mean,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: what are you doing to yourself? You're in another highly
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: stressful situation. You're probably losing sleep right now, and yeah,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: it's important you're seeing hydrated. I mean, are those the
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: main things that you have to watch a specially in
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: this kind of a physically strenuous, stressful job that you're doing.
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: Right now, I can tell, like I've had it and
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: dealt with it enough that i know when it's at
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: a bad point, and it's at.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: All time bad right now, like it is very noticeable.
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: I can tell that I'm just not taking enough fluids
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: in and not doing as much as I can because
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: it's almost impossible with how much we're doing.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: But I manage it.
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: And I felt honestly great and fine the through this
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: whole entire time. So it's just, yeah, I'm putting myself
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: in a lot of high stress situations where I'm strenuous
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: and doing a lot of stuff, but I'm as far
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: as I know, I'm healthy.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: So I'm feeling what happens.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: When you don't when you notice it kind of is
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: it a flare up? Or would you say or how
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: do you notice that you?
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it happened more I would say on The Bachelor,
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: and does right now because Jenna is great with giving
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: me enough time to have rest and we get breaks
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: and it's I feel like I've gotten in a really
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: good routine with dancing. It's more, I would say the
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: mental than the physical side that's been tough with this season,
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: just because of how much it comes in with The Bachelor.
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: It was more really really long nights and just a
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: lot of conversations and actually physically draining of what you
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: had to do for that show.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: And it's a very.
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: High stress short pound of time. So it was like
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: a two and a half month stretch where it was
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: a full on sprint.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: Even though it was the length.
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: Of a marathon, it felt like a sprint, and that
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: one it was just they could tell there's just some
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: days where I just I was yawning more. I felt very,
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: very tired. They always were trying to pump me with
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: more energy.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: They're like, maybe Joey needs a Celsius or maybe he
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: needs this. I was like, maybe he needs a nap,
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: like and maybe you need to give him a little break.
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: But you don't get on that show because time isn't
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: isn't available. And I'm glad I pushed through and I
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: wouldn't have changed a thing about the whole experience, and
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: I love everyone from that experience, but that.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: Was one of the first times in my life I
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: was like, Okay, yeah, something is a little off.
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: But I had a great handler that was on the
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: show that gave me a concoction every morning, is what
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: he called it.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: And he put.
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: Collagen liquid IV and this huge thing of water and
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: gave me fish oil, magnesium like he was just throwing
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: me vitamins, just being like, we're gonna make sure you
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: survive because he knew.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: No, we can't have our bachelor going down and.
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: As much as I could so and we got through
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: that just fine, and the show was always aware of it.
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: But it's just no matter anyone that's been in that position.
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: Energy is something that you want as much as possible.
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: And I was in a position where I just didn't have.
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: My body didn't help.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: Me a lot with that, but we made it through,
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: So we're good.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: You made it through with flying colors. So kudos to you, Jenna,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: as a mother, relatively new mom, and a wife and
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: a dancer. I'm sure as any busy parent and spouse
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: that you have days where you feel like you're crushing
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: it in some areas and dropping the ball in others.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: And I know I love that you've talked about the
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: fact that you've done therapy and how beneficial it has
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: been to you. So that is a very compelling I
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: choose me sort of declaration by going get therapy and
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: dealing because you're dealing with a lot. What has been
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: your favorite mom moment of the week, like your biggest
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: triumph and your biggest like, oh I could have done better?
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: Hmmm.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: I feel like I can always do better.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: So that's how we always feel.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: No, I think last night, uh that was away, he
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: was gone, and I just had a couple of hours
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: one on one with Rome and we got to do
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: our full our nighttime routine together, just the two of us,
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: and it was so special and honestly I cried through
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: the whole thing because it's been a second since I've
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: been able to do that, just have that time together
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: and feel like I was making a difference in his
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: life and it was just so special and he just
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: like snuggled me to I put him down. He said, Mama,
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: love you, and I was just like, you know, those
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: little moments are like, oh my gosh, he loves me.
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: I'm doing something right. So I would say that of
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: the week, that was my favorite, just getting that, like
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: amazing one on one time with him. Feeling reconnected and
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: having those special moments is Ammy and Son. I mean,
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: he's just He's the best.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Sam, It is the best. Do you ever get mom guilt.
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: All the time? I think Joey's seen it, especially the
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: long hours on like you know, we have our camera
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: blocking day, which is a very very long day, and
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: then the next day is a show day, So basically
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: Monday Tuesday, I feel like I'm gone. Sometimes I see
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: him and sometimes I don't. By the time I get back,
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: he's already in bed. Those days are hard, and it's
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: hard not to feel like, man, am I doing the
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: right thing? Am I making a mistake by or selfish
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: by not being here for these moments? But again, it's
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: back to that thought of like, this is such a
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: short amount of time in the grand scheme of things,
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: and I know that I'm so passionate about dance and
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: I have a shot this season with Joey, and I
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: know that these moments don't come often, so I'm going
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: to take advantage of it. And I've been so grateful
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: for the patients of Joey. You know, when I do
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: have those moments of like being a little bit down,
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: just reminding me the like, oh no, you're good, or
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: like talking about Rome just like bringing him up makes
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: me feel a lot better too. So I definitely have
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: mom guilt, but I guess it's just part of being
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: a working mama. I think regardless of like what your
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: craft is, you're always going to have those moments. I'm
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: sure you're going to tell that I don't know how
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: you did the show with three kids, like I'm surviving
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: with one.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the mom guilt thing was always a thing, but
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: I mean I can look at it from the other
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: side now and see how amazing my girls turned out
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: despite the fact that I worked a lot and I
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: did have passion for what things I was doing in
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: my career for myself and knowing that by putting my
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: energy on other things than them sometimes it showed them
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: what it's like to have passion and how necessary that
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: is in a person's life. And I think that that's
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: something that invaluable that you're giving him, even though it
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't feel right.
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and again we try our best, especially on show days.
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: We'll have him come to set, and I think it's
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: like what other tddler can say that their mom and
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: dad were a Disney prince or princess this week on
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: Dancing with the Stars, and he gets to like see
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: the whole set and crew and me amazing people. So
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: I do feel like there are so many benefits, and
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: I'm grateful for the show that they do make it
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: accessible for us to have our kids on set and
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: to make that a priority. I'm really really grateful for that.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. Do you and Val think that you'll
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: have a little dancer on your hands?
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: We will see. He you know what, he loves music.
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: He's very musically inclined child. He loves to sing. So
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: whether that's going to translate into dancing, I don't know.
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: I will support whatever he wants to do. We have
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: a lot of dance in our life in general, so
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: it might be nice if he does something.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: How about soccer?
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: How about sports? But yeah, we'll see. I think it
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: would be crazy if he didn't fit into this world
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: pretty naturally. But I don't want to push him into
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: anything that he doesn't want to do, So we'll see.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Yep, you can just support them, that's it. Yeah, Okay, Joey.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: I was crushed when Kelsey's dad got quoted off eliminated
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: how do you get it unroased? I don't know what
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: you say, but I was pretty upset about it. How's
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: he doing? How's Mark doing?
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: Mark's doing great?
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: I think a lot of people were upset, but and
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'll be the first two a bit.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: When we to news, we were upset too. We were
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: really rooting for it from the beginning.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: I was like, he's the winner, He's the one.
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: I mean, he's He's just such a lovable person. I
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: think people got glimpses of that during my season on Hometown,
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: but then to see more of him that obviously have
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: all these interviews and having them be back on TV,
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: people kind of figure out how special of a person
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: he is.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: It's just he deserves so much.
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: And I think the one thing that you can't always
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: see that I can at least share, is he's one
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: of those people that gives so much to other people.
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: He is full force dad doing everything he can for
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: Kelsey and all of their siblings, and you can just
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: tell when you're around all of them how much he's
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: thinking of them before he thinks of himself, which is,
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: I mean, the best thing a dad can do. But
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: I was so excited for this season, and I'm still
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: so excited for the fact that it's what the show brings.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: It gives them ability.
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: To put themselves first and try to do something for
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: them to meet all these other guys. He said it
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: was the experience of a lifetime. He said it was
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: better than therapy. You can look in his eyes and
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: he say it, and you know that he means it.
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: So I'm just so happy that he gained so much
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: from this experience. And I have no idea what's going
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: to be next for him, but I have no doubt
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: that he didn't regret one thing, and he's just so
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: grateful and for that, I'm just very happy for him.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: Maybe they'll do a Golden Paradise, you know, he can
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: be on that. I would be for it.
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure they would enjoy jumping in the pool.
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: They were in the entire time. They'd be in the pool,
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: drinking and having a good time.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: That's one of the best things about watching it is,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: like just especially with the Golden is that you see
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: this group of people come together and support one another,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: and like especially the men, they are around other men
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: that are dealing with their feelings and all the things
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: are coming up for everybody and then they talk about it.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: It just must be such just like group therapy every day.
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it happens, even from the show when I was
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: on about your h It's very amazing the things that
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: can happen when you take away all distractions and just
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: put them out there. But there's something different about the
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: Golden crowd because it's even more special and it's more
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: fulfilling to watch. We are still figuring out so much
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: about life and don't have all these experiences bring into play,
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: so it's more of an eye opening experience for us.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: But I think on the flip side, the Golden it's
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: more of.
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: An appreciation and a I don't even know it just
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: there's something about it that feels so wholesome that they
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: accept each other and uplift each other to this point
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: you just you can't help but be like, we.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: Want all of you to be happy. It's not the same.
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: Case when it's the young group, because you're like this
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: person still figuring out exactly who they are and they
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: got a lot of work to do, but it's at
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: least nice that they're starting the process. It's for the
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: Golden side, and it's it's special it's really fun to watch,
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: and all those guys that've met have been amazing.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can tell, I can tell. Okay, before I
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: let you go, Joey and Jenna, what was your last
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: I choose me moment?
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: I'll let you go first?
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: I was trying to say, you go first, I'll go first.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: What was my last I choose me moment?
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: It can be like you said, Jenna, bubble bath, but
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: it might be extra hard right now because.
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: That's the truth is is I feel like I feel
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: like I've been choosing myself a lot with like doing
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: dancing wasn't I choose me moment? But I want to
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: do something outside of that because tell your truth. I
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: did it because Kelsey was pushing me to do it,
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: and I was like, you know, why not. It was
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: kind of one of those things that I was I
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: was a little on the fence about. I don't know
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: if I did it fully for me right away, but say,
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: I guess what I'll say, is I choose me?
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: Is I'm fully doing it for me now? Like there
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: are moments in every.
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: Day where I'm just I am doing really well, leaving
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: everything at the door, and I am choosing myself of
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: being fully in this. So I would even just say
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: an exam being today, Like we got into practice, I
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: had some stuff going on with personal things and things
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: I was thinking about, and I was like, you know what,
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: I'm going to leave it at the door. I'm going
• 59:04
  Speaker 5: to choose to be here and just fully be invested
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: in this. And I'm trying to have that mindset every
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: day I walk into the studio.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a good one, but it's
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: just the best I.
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: Can do right now because sadly, dancing is all that's
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: on my mind because I'm really trying to dive.
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: Into this perfect Yeah, it's weird because I kind of
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: want to say similarly, you know, choosing to do this
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: season as a mom is a big I choose me
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: moment in itself, and I think I am putting a
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: lot of pressure on myself this season because I was
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: pregnant two seasons ago, so I missed out on a
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: whole season. And as much as I needed that for
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: myself and I needed a second to step away, it
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: was such an eye opening experience because I realized how
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: much I do love the show and how much I
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: love to create and choreograph and dance and how much
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: I love watching Somebody's journey the show. So I had that,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: and then last season I got eliminated very early on,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: and so I feel like there's been this like buyer
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: inside of me for the past two years that has
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: wanted to come back and have a chance, a shot
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: to like dance my face off with my partner and
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: create some epic routines. And I feel like Joey and
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: I are having that this season, and so in a
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: weird way, this is my like choose me moment, and
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: I'm so grateful for that.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: I get it. I'm so happy for both of you,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: and I'm here with my daughters. We're all rooting for you,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: just like we were for you Joey on The Bachelor.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: So I just wish you both the best and thank
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: you so much for coming on and go dance, Go dance.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Come on, you gotta practice.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: We're gonna keep dancing.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: I love I love that both of our I choose
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: me as we're also choosing each other and being in this.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: So that makes me happy. I think we both want
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 5: this bad and we're gonna keep doing it. We appreciate
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: the support.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah you got it, mate, Yeah high vibe from everybody.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thank you guys. That was such
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: a good combo with Joey and Jenna and just reliving
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: all the memories I had from when I was back
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: on the show rooting for them in this competition. For sure,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: as we continue to choose ourselves each week, I want
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: you to do something fun after listening to this podcast.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: I want you to dance. Dancing cannot only be a
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: great exercise, but it can also release endorphins and bring
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: up our moods. So this is your reminder. Feeling stressed,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: feeling sad, feeling anxious about something, choose yourself. Put on
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: that I Choose Me playlist that we made, and take
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: a ten minute dance break. I promise you will feel
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: better once you let go and bust a move like
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: no one is watching. And you, guys, do me a favor.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: If you're loving the podcast, follow us on Instagram and
• 1:02:11
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• 1:02:14
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• 1:02:18
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• 1:02:22
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• 1:02:24
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• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: Choose Me. I will be here next week. I hope
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: you choose to be here too,