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S7 281. Dan Duval - The Blood of Jesus Across Ages & The Spirit's Journey Through Time · Millennial Mustard Seed

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Welcome to the Millennial Mustard Seed podcast.
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Dan Duvall, founder and leader of Bride Ministries.
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And you're listening to Millennial Mustard Seed Podcast.
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And we are here again. No one's keeping count, and we
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have something cool to talk about.
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You got a book man Awakened came out last November.
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Pre adamic stuff. It's going to get weird.
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I'm ready for it. How you doing buddy?
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I'm doing fantastic, Rod. Thank you.
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Yeah, it's it's it's a lot of fun to talk about this subject.
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I think it's an intriguing conversation, definitely
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divisive. And so, you know, we're going to
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talk about and people be able to make up their own minds.
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So we've dabbled with this idea a little bit.
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My listeners will know over the last couple appearances, I think
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Miu, Carly Tebs and Basil from Canary Cry, we did a round
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table. We started to tap into this, you
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know, pre, pre Adam existence realm.
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We've never designated an episode to it.
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That's what I'm excited about today is you kind of get to lay
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the rails out, talk about your book, look at these connections.
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You've done a ton of research on it.
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You are the tip of a spear in this field.
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I told you off air, I'm the same guy on air, you get off air.
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I don't know a terrible lot about it.
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But as the last like months, more importantly, like 2 years,
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I'd say I've had this connection where things make sense in these
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moments for me. I'm like, Oh my God, it's so
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much bigger and weirder. It does connect back.
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And I've had these kind of longing questions where the
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environment kind of gets massaged with these like moments
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of truth. But then I feel like I lose it,
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you know, and I'll listen to you on discovering truth and you'll
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hit this topic and I'll be like full-fledged, Oh my God, this is
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it. I got to talk to Dan.
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And so I'm a little bit back and forth.
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I'm not looking to be convinced today.
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I'm looking to take a ride with you and and just discover what
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you've laid down because you mentioned there's deliverance
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that's been taking place in this space regarding these
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connections. You've take the mic man.
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How do we even start this thing off and and qualify it because
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some people are not going to be up to speed with with what
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you're talking about on this episode today.
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Let's do justice here. Let.
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Me just begin by saying this. I was trained in young Earth
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theology when I went to Victory Christian Center.
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That's why I went to Bible schools.
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It was Victory Bible Christian or Victory Bible School, and it
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was great. I mean, I'm glad God sent me
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there. I got a really good foundation.
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But one of the people there that was part of that ministry had
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like a Bible study that they did ongoing.
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And so I was sitting in and they'd give me these, you know,
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the whole group, right? We'd have to watch these videos.
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And they were all about creation, all about, you know,
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making sense of certain observations, archaeological
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observations, and trying to frame it within a 6000 year
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context. The position Genesis 1 is a
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literal reading of a literal 6 day creation followed by a
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seventh day of rest and human history.
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And this planet together is A6000 year history.
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And so I believe that for a long time.
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I mean, and I mean, I was in Bible school from 2007 to 2009.
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By the time we get to 2014, I mean, I'm still firmly young
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earth in, in my cosmology, you know, and I was very interested
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in the pre flood world and I, I knew that there was a lot of
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stuff that happened between Adam and Noah that is unexplained.
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And there was a lot of technologies that were developed
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and all of that. But I'd never really considered
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could there be something behind Adam?
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I was like, Nope, you know, and I also had the opinion for a
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long time that the design of man is very simple.
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You're Rod. I'm Dan.
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Rod has a body. Dan has a body.
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When this body dies, Dan goes to heaven.
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When your body dies, Rod goes to heaven because we believe in
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Jesus. So, you know, I had also that
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and it's like, if we don't believe in Jesus, we'll look
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out. You're going to hell.
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And so it was a very simple view of the spirit world, afterlife
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stuff, the nature of man's design and the nature of the
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earth that we live in now. When I got into Deliverance and
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when he started getting into understanding the world that
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comes when you minister to people that come out of deep
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occult bloodlines and other things, everything started to
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get muddier and muddier. And one of the things that would
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happen in Deliverance sessions, for instance, is like we'd say,
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well, let's do some bloodline work and repent of this issue on
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behalf of you and your forefathers.
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And like they tell me, well, that's not good enough.
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It's not enough. It's like, well, why is it not
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enough? What it what is Holy Spirit
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telling you? And they'd be like, well, I'm
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hearing we have to say to do this before Adam.
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And it's like Holy Spirit is telling you to repent of this
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bloodline issue going back before Adam.
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That doesn't even make sense with my theology, which says God
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visits the iniquity of the fathers on to the children, to
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the third and 4th generations. Why would we have to go any
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further than that? Even if we do have to go back?
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I'm confused. So I'll give you 2 things.
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Number one, that whole statement visiting the iniquity of the
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fathers on the children to the third and 4th generation happens
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to be a Hebrew idiom. That statement actually means as
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long as it takes. It's the same thing that happens
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when Jesus answers his disciples is how many times do we forgive
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our brother? Should I forgive him?
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Seven times? He says 70 * 7.
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You know, I've actually had people say when that person
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assaults me for the 491st time, I'm punching them in the face.
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That's it. Because I, I don't have to do
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this anymore. Jesus said.
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And it's like, OK, it's an idiom.
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It just means don't stop. So 3rd and 4th generation means
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as long as it takes. And sometimes when we're
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resolving things, it did have to go back before Adam, but I
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didn't know what that meant. So we added the language to some
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of our prayers and saw the fruit of deliverance and it was kind
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of parked there for a few years now as as as time went forward,
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we got deeper understanding on the nature of human design.
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And I have to explain this because when I get into the
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actual nature of the pre Adamic world as we've been
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understanding it, it won't make sense if a person is unable to
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understand design of humanity and our nature.
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So you have a dichotomous view in some theologies of man, which
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says either man is a body with a soul spirit or God sends a
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spirit into the earth, it joins with a physical body and we call
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the spirit body combo a living soul.
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So do you have two versions of dichotomy?
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They're very similar but both would say man has two sides of
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his nature, spirit and physical. Then you have to trichotibus
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view, which is actually what the Bible says.
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Yeah, body, soul and spirit. Body, soul and spirit.
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So First Thessalonians 523 So when I started to understand
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body, soul and spirit, this this began in Bible school when it
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was explained to me, wait a minute, I have a spirit of soul
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and a body. But I understood it as the
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spirit is like my connection place with God, a place where I
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do my worship. But the soul's who I am, my mind
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will and emotions and then I have a body.
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So that was the basic view. And then I began to meet human
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spirits and realized, wait a minute, these guys have
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consciousness and the consciousness of the spirit is
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independent of the consciousness of the soul and the
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consciousness of the body. I'm pretty sure I've shared this
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on your podcast before. So you know.
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I'm in agreement with all this too, by the way, Like I've even
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put chimed in my 2 pieces on my understanding of this ever since
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my out about experience when I got jumped at 20 years old and
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kind of learning all this different stuff and then looking
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into the scriptures. And I'm in complete agreement.
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Body, soul and spirit. It's it's a triune nature,
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right? But I don't and I don't
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prescribe to the Trinitarian views.
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I think I personally Godhead for me, right.
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I believe in the Godhead. But I see where you're going.
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And this is this is great foundational stuff.
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Yeah, this makes sense. So I met my spirit in 2015 and I
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did it with this language. I said, Daniel Spirit, I bless
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you in the name of Jesus. I honor you in the name of
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Jesus. I invite you to come forward
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because as the soul I was interested in, like, do I have a
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human spirit that is me that I can talk to?
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And lo and behold, I find myself sitting underneath a massive
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presence in the spirit was standing on top of me.
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And it started to speak and I was like terrified.
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I'm like, what what is happening right now?
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But everything that it said was coming out of my heart, not down
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from where his head would have been above my ceiling.
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And he was basically making certain affirmations like like
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I'm this and I'm that. And this is what I do.
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And what he was saying aligned with everything God had been
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telling me in my prayer journal, which I was as the soul
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struggling to believe because I had religious programming
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insecurities, fears, and broken identity as the soul.
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So I realized that my soul and my spirit were actually not on
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the same page regarding who I was in Christ.
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And so that began a long journey that I took getting to know my
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human spirit and realizing we don't share the same mind.
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We share the same essence. And that that was a big, big,
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big game changer for me. After I met my human spirit, I
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stopped going through valleys and desert seasons.
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Like I never had another desert ever.
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Like once I met my spirit, it's always on.
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It was always when I lean in, I could hear the voice of God.
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When I lean in, I can explore the heavenly realms when I lean
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in. Like it's just, it's just
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changed everything. And I realized this is the
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future of Christianity. It's like when Christians
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realized we're not supposed to do Christianity out of our soul,
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only everything changes. So this is all foundation.
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Fast forward to 2020, 2023, 2023, we're preparing for the
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Bright Tribe advance and, and by this point I've discovered
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several things. And one of the biggest
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discoveries that we made was actually about a year and a half
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prior, so maybe 2021, going into 2022.
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And I began to discover that a lot of these weird things that
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we don't know what to do with sit in people's bloodlines.
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So we were discovering Anunnaki DNA code in the bloodline of
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like, like survivors defecting from deep occult families.
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We were finding Pleiadian stuff, we were finding lichen genetics,
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which is werewolf stuff. So shapeshifter, we find all
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this stuff is actually in the genetic code.
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Also some really bizarre stuff like lion people and Elvin
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genetics and stuff like that. It's like what I thought this
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was just mythology and people are having some of the the most
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aggressive deliverances as we're using our deliverance tools to
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get them free of the influences of this code on their DNA.
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And we realized that a lot of this DNA, this foreign genetic
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code to human design that was fighting its way to these
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difficult families that were initiated and chosen by the
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Kingdom of Darkness to carry the agenda of the beast up until the
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fruition of the of the fulfillment of the beast Kingdom
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Antichrist agenda. Like they're pulling on a pre
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Adamic iniquity, like some of these groups from which they're
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deriving the genetic defilement are all pre Adamic groups.
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And, and, and, and so we began to address it like that and the
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deliverances were just off the charts.
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So I, I, I had this key, I have to get made this long list and
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I, and I put the list in my book awaken of like all of these
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different entity groups that we were getting people set free of
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that all have this seemingly pre Adamic existence.
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And then we got to 2023 and every year at bride ministries,
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we do something called an advance, which at the end of the
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year, around November, we will have our annual conference
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people flying from all over the world.
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We usually rent out an entire hotel or resort and we will have
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it for a weekend and we have worship and teaching and it's
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amazing. And so it was preparing for
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that. And I'm like, God, what are we
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going to get into this year? And I had a dream.
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And so in that dream, I'm watching a friend of mine preach
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and we're in a it's just a small room.
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And as he's preaching, I begin to see in the dream like I would
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see in the spirit in the natural.
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And so I'm looking at him, but I know by the spirit that he has
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an emblem, a signet ring and a Crest.
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And it's as if I could see it overlaid on him, but it's not
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there physically. And I'm like, oh, he has this
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like heavenly stuff and I should go and prophecy to him and tell
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him what I see. So I walk over to him in the
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dream and I say, you have an emblem, a signet ring and a
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Crest. And these are from the age
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before. Now when I said these are from
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the age before, a portal opens up in the dream and I am
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viciously sucked in. Like, I mean, it was like a
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vacuum. And the next thing I know in the
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dream I'm flying through this scroll.
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And so I'm inside of a giant scroll that's written all the
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way around. And I mean, I am fly and I'm
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looking at the scroll as I'm going through this portal and lo
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and behold, someone translated it to English in the dream.
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So I I'm expecting it to be some unheard of prehistoric language
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or, you know, maybe Paleo Hebrew or something.
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No, it was English. And so I started to read it, but
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I couldn't really just like take my time.
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I was like, like screenshotting, like speed reading.
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Like I was like, OK, I grabbed a sentence, grabbed a sentence.
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Like you look and then you think about what are the words that it
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said? And what I was piercing together
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as I'm flying through is I'm in preademic recorded history.
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That's the scroll. And I'm reading about exploits,
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I'm reading about wars, I'm reading about heroic acts, I'm
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reading about betrayals. I'm reading about, I mean it is
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epic and it's written and I'm like, I am in the pre Adamic
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scroll, the record of the heavens of the events that
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occurred before Adam. And I'm like, this isn't fair.
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I I could spend the next 10 years of my life in this thing,
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but I'm just flying through. Next thing I know it's over.
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So all I know is what it contained.
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But I couldn't like get dates, facts and figures right?
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And then I land in a realm where it is just me and Holy Spirit.
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And then I didn't care about the scroll because I was so
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overwhelmed by the comfort and the love and the embrace of the
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Holy Spirit in that realm. Like I was like, just take me
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now. I'm good.
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I don't need to go back. I don't need to know about that.
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I just want to be here with. You I mean.
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It was incredible. So me and Holy Spirit were
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having a conversation in that realm and there was several
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things the Holy Spirit was sharing with me.
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And after that ended, I found myself back where I started in
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the dream. And where I started was I'm in
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the room and I'm looking at my friend and I see that he has an
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emblem of Crest and a signet ring.
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And it's like I need to tell him you have an emblem of Crest.
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And so I walk over to him in the dream just like I did the first
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time and I prophesied him. I said, I can see by the spirit
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that you have an emblem, a Crest and singing ring.
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And I stopped and he looked at me and he said, and these are
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from the age before he finished my sentence.
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And I looked at him in a dream and I said, I've told you this
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before, but in the dream my reference point was to the other
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timeline. I've told you this before.
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And then I said, and they shall be like stars forever more.
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And I woke up at that moment and in my head was Revelation 12 and
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Daniel 12, those two. And I was like, it was an
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intense dream. And I knew it was more than a
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dream when I woke up. I mean, the moment I woke up, I
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was like, that was an encounter in a sleep state.
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It was way more than a dream. It was a night vision.
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And so that dream began the season of the heavens opening
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not just to me, all of bride ministries like the our whole
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realm became recharacterized by an ongoing download of that age.
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And I would say it's actually a collection of ages because
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there's so much that happened, but it's not what we might
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think. And so this as it opened, began
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a conversation, not on the idea necessarily that there's a whole
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like, and I'm not saying that there weren't humanoids on Earth
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before Adam, but what I am saying is the primary focus of
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the conversation became the human spirit experience, the
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human spirit experience. And, and, and, and I'm going to
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pause there. And now I'm going to, if it's
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OK, get into some theology and some observations from the Bible
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before I I I make any other points.
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Yeah, absolutely. I mean, as as just a caveat,
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like something it reminded me of CS Lewis, right?
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The line, the witch and the wardrobe.
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You know, like at the end of the first movie, the kids go into
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this realm and they they grow up there.
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They spend all this time there. And then, you know, they pop
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back out in the wardrobe as little kids again.
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And it's like there's these other, you know, even Lord of
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the Rings kind of like hints at this idea of like the ages past,
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right? These like kind of ancient.
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Understandings and and worlds colliding and things taking
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place and I think that people are interested in it because it
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speaks to a volume of truth written in each and every single
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one of us. Because here's the thing.
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If the Bible says that no man can know or imagine right, that
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the things that are stored up for those who are in Christ
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Jesus, that means if my imagination can can conceive
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this beauty, then what he has is surpasses extremely blows me out
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of the water as to what's really in store.
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And so I think that collectively, like when we're
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entertaining these ideas in CS Lewis's writings, for example,
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and and then become movies and and same with Tolkien.
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I think it it was the extent of the imagination that was allowed
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by those gentlemen that hinted to a greater truth.
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And I think that the reason it's entertained at such a wide level
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is because there's some truth to that.
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There's something going on here, and I think what you're talking
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about right now as I'm just reacting real, real time to it,
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it stirs up that same deeper. There's more levels to it.
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It's more interesting, it's more beautiful, it's more captivating
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than our wildest imagination. But you have some biblical
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framework for it. And that's where I get even more
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excited. So let's walk into it.
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I mean, what kind of scriptures are we going to?
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Are you going to line up that that build the case?
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So, so again, you have to realize that coming to this
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conversation, I had to step out of my own framework to step into
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this framework. I was a young Earth guy.
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So I had all of the young earth theology that then I needed
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evidence for that was substantial in order to let it
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go and go a different direction. And so coming back to the book
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of Genesis, literally Genesis 1/1 and 1/2, it says in the
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beginning God created the habit of the earth and the earth was
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without form and void. It says the Spirit hovered over
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the waters. When we look at Genesis 11 in
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Hebrew, it says bearish sheet, which is actually ray sheath
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with a bait at the beginning of it like a prefix, A bearish
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sheet Bara elohim. So it actually says, you know,
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beginning created God, which we understand as God in the
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beginning created and then shamayim and arrests.
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And between shamay elohim and shamayim there's an A left off
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and between shamayim and arrests there's another a left off.
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So that initial statement basically says in the beginning,
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God through the aleft of which is Jesus, created the heavens
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and through Jesus created the earth.
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And we know that because Revelation defines Jesus as the
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Alpha in the Omega, the first and last letters of the Greek
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alphabet, which are the counterpart of the aleft of the
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first and last letters of the Hebrew alphabet.
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So Jesus is the aleph tov. He's the one through which this
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creation is happening. And then you see the second
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aleph tov between Shamim and the rets has a a tov as essentially
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like a prefix. And So what does that mean?
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Well, no vav, I'm sorry, not tov vav.
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It has a valve on it says valve, a left tov.
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It an evolved means nail. So in other words, what it's
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saying is that in the beginning, God through Jesus created the
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heavens, and through Jesus created and nailed the heavens
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to the earth so that Bob nails the heavens to the earth, which
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means that the destiny of the heavens was always somehow bound
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to the earth. And then you get to Genesis 1/2
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and the earth was without form and void.
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Well, that word was, is the Hebrew word haya, which means a
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number of things. It actually can mean was.
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It can also mean came to be. It became yes, it, it, it's
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morphed into became Yeah. And this is where the debate
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begins because which interpretive model do you take?
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And the honest truth is, I looked into it, yeah, because I
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believed that Hayao was not rightly interpreted became when
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I was a young earth person. But when I moved into a more pre
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Adamic cosmological view, then I had to adopt the view that it
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meant became. But on what basis can we
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determine linguistically the intent of interpretation?
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And the actual truth is that from Genesis 1-2 alone, you
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can't. This debate exists for a reason.
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And you can go around and around and around and around forever.
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There's no way to say exclusively on Genesis 1/2 that
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it is one way or the other. If it means was, then you can
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make a case that is a six day creation.
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The earth is 6000 years old. Let's move on.
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If you can make it to say became, then you can make a case
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that the earth is a lot older than 6000 years.
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And then something happened and they call that the gap theory.
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Now on that point, thank God for another passage in the Bible,
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Isaiah 4815, which says God did not create the earth void.
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It says in Hebrew He didn't create the earth tohu.
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So what happens is if you look at Isaiah 4815 and then you map
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it to Genesis 1/2, the conclusion is if the earth
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became tohu and bohu formless and void and he didn't create it
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that way. Now we can make the case that
26:27
Haya means became because it wasn't a.
26:31
Law first mentioned too. I mean, you'd have that on your
26:34
side, right? And and this is the God conceal
26:38
certain things and it's the duty of Princess and kings to seek it
26:41
out. So definitely an interesting
26:43
concept that like this is this ongoing revelation, right?
26:46
That because if it was just given plain Jane to every single
26:49
person right from the RIP who knows Well, he knows because
26:53
he's outside of time, right. And so clearly, yeah, I'm I'm
26:57
tracking with you. I'm keep going, keep going.
27:00
All right, so so that's where you really get some foundation
27:04
that you can stand on and say, I think that the this gap is a
27:07
real thing in Scripture. And So what you have then when
27:12
you establish all right, I'm going to go this direction
27:15
there, there was a gap. There wasn't earth and then
27:18
earth became formless and void and the Spirit of the Lord is
27:21
hovering over the waters and then God begins A7 day creation
27:25
experience. What you also unlock is a
27:28
revelation that earth and this universe is older than 6000
27:34
years. And then you have to say, well,
27:40
if the earth pre exists, the creation week, which no matter
27:44
how you look at it, it pre exists, right?
27:46
Earth is there day one, it is there for day one.
27:51
The only question is, is it created in the early hours of
27:54
day one or has it been there for a very long time?
27:57
But once you get to this point, if you say it's been there for a
28:01
very long time but it's now formless and void and the spirit
28:04
is hovering over the waters to do this creation week.
28:07
The creation week becomes more of a reframing of sorts of a
28:14
pre-existing planet. And then the question becomes,
28:19
well, is there a case that can be made to say not everything
28:24
that is happening in Genesis 1 is something from nothing?
28:30
We would call that creation X nihilo out of nothing something.
28:38
But if Genesis 1 is actually like a a fixing of a very
28:45
broken, destitute planet that underwent some kind of
28:49
cataclysm, is there some linguistic hints that God left
28:54
for us that would be able to frame our theology around that?
28:58
And the answer, Rod is actually yes.
29:01
Now it's actually. Yes, let's go.
29:05
And it's because there are two words that are used for made,
29:13
and one of those words is Borah, which is created and that's in
29:17
Genesis 11. In the beginning God created
29:21
Bara, the heavens and the earth. And that word in a majority of
29:25
contexts means to create something from nothing.
29:30
When it comes to anything being made or created, one of the
29:34
things about the Bible is in 0 context will you find Bara used
29:40
in reference to man making something.
29:44
Never in all of scripture do you see man Bara creating only God
29:51
is the ex nihilo creator in scripture where out of nothing
29:55
something, even Satan when he goes to make something, he has
29:59
to take from the building blocks of what God creates and then
30:03
ruin it or defile it, right? But then there's this other
30:08
Hebrew word ASA, which is translated over and over again.
30:14
Made guess what the majority of Genesis 11 is ASA and of its
30:24
meanings. It it includes to fashion, to
30:29
accomplish, to observe, to put in order, and to ordain.
30:37
In other words, while Bara has this connotation of being
30:41
something from nothing, a saw has this connotation of making
30:45
and putting in order. When you see man making things
30:51
in the word of God, it's always a saw.
30:53
Man puts the components of what God has already created in order
30:58
to make something that is like, you know, so you take wood,
31:02
which God created, you put it in order, and you make a house.
31:06
That's what man can do. We a saw.
31:08
But all throughout Genesis 1, you see God portrayed as a saw
31:15
and he is putting in order. Even when it comes to like the
31:19
stars and the sun and the moon being appointed their roles
31:24
relative to the earth, it's a saw.
31:26
He's not creating them for the first time.
31:29
He's putting things in order. He's putting vegetation, you
31:35
know, so, so so there are only a few things that God creates
31:39
Barack throughout that Genesis 1 and a majority of stuff
31:44
throughout it is Assad. And I walk through in my book
31:48
point by point, all of those things.
31:50
Now, is God creating Adam for the first time in Genesis one?
31:53
Yeah. That's one of the things he
31:54
Barack creates. But he wasn't there before, but
31:59
the sun and the moon and the stars were.
32:02
And so that study on Bora versus Assad unlocks an understanding
32:09
that God is renewing a ruined planet throughout Genesis 1.
32:14
And it's a beautiful study. But what it helps us to do now
32:20
is realize, wait a minute, if Earth is being renewed, there
32:24
was something that happened, cataclysmic, that led to its
32:28
destruction. Where can we find some hints
32:32
about that? Interestingly enough, when you
32:35
read Ezekiel chapter 28, so you have two major passages about
32:41
Satan or Lucifer in the Old Testament prophets, Isaiah 14,
32:46
which refers to him as the king of Babylon, and Ezekiel 28 which
32:50
refers to him as the king of Tyre.
32:53
And as you read through Ezekiel 28 and you get to the end, it's
32:56
crazy because God says he's going to turn him into ashes
33:01
upon the earth. Well, that's interesting because
33:05
the Bible says when Jesus is referring to Satan, I saw Satan
33:10
fall like lightning from heaven. And then when you get to the
33:14
Book of Revelation, Revelation 12, Michael and his angels
33:17
fought and the dragon and his angels, and they did not
33:19
prevail, nor was he placed for them in heaven any longer.
33:22
And he was cast out of heaven onto the earth.
33:26
So I said wait a minute, hold on.
33:29
So if what kind of impact radius would you have if a cherub was
33:36
slammed onto a planet that was not created formless and void,
33:43
it may cause the planet to become formless and void.
33:48
So who do we find in the garden ready to deceive Adam and Eve?
33:52
The serpent, he was already there.
33:55
And when you begin to look at the Bible through this lens,
34:00
certain things pop out like like #1 Jesus is the Lamb slain from
34:08
the foundation of the world. It doesn't say earth.
34:12
It says Jesus was slain from the foundation of the cosmos.
34:16
That's the Greek word. What is the cosmos?
34:19
He was slain from the beginning of creation.
34:22
All spoken right, all and spoken yes, so.
34:25
What what that helps us to understand is Jesus decided he
34:28
was going to be the lamb that died before the pre Adamic ages
34:32
began. What so suddenly you actually
34:36
step into a world where God's plan is magnified, not minimized
34:43
by a new interpretive model of reality.
34:47
And so you get back into Genesis 1 and you're like, Oh my gosh,
34:52
Earth is being renewed. There are pre-existing
34:55
structures, there are some things that God is putting there
34:57
for the first time. But All in all, the earth became
35:01
this way because there was a cataclysmic event and it
35:06
probably involved the rebellion and ultimately the casting out
35:11
of this cherub. Now the story gets even more
35:14
interesting because when you look at it like that, then you
35:18
get to Jeremiah chapter 4, which is an interesting prophetic
35:22
passage about this invasion that's going to come into Judah.
35:28
And some people say, oh, this whole passage is about this
35:30
invasion of Judah. And and that's fine.
35:33
You can interpret it that way if you want to, but there seems to
35:36
be more going on because there's a point where it's like Jeremiah
35:39
breaks with the narrative and he says, I saw the earth and it was
35:46
formless and void. Suddenly, out of nowhere, he he,
35:51
he is borrowing the language of Genesis 11.
35:54
And some people say, well, it's just a metaphor.
35:57
He's just saying that's what the destruction of Judah was going
35:59
to be like. And it's like, yeah, I believe
36:02
that it is in some ways a, a like metaphorical to help them
36:08
understand a great judgement is coming.
36:10
But it's more than that. It's a compare and contrast
36:15
where God is opening up to the prophet a vision of an actual
36:20
earth history event by which to warn the people of impending
36:25
doom. And so now I believe he's
36:29
looking at the actual earth in Genesis 1-2 and he's saying it
36:35
was without form and void. And so as part of this prophecy
36:39
and visionary experience, the prophet is having you learn
36:42
something fascinating. It says all the birds had fled,
36:48
which means there were pre Genesis 1 two birds and all of
36:54
the cities were destroyed, which means they were pre Genesis 1-2
37:01
cities. What were those cities?
37:05
So now we open up an interpretive model on the Bible
37:09
that acknowledges pre ademic civilization on this planet
37:16
which was ruined by cataclysm, which was later occupied by
37:23
Adam. So Adam comes into the Earth
37:28
inheriting a back story. This might sound like a stupid
37:34
question, but the whole Rahab thing, you know, it does that
37:41
come into this destruction narrative?
37:43
Is there something cosmic? So you talked about, you know,
37:47
Satan and the and the multi layered effect of him falling
37:49
like lightning, right? And the king attire and all of
37:52
these kind of interconnectivities.
37:54
Why why am I thinking of like rehab either a planet or or some
37:59
type of entity? Does that have something to do
38:01
with the destruction in the pre Adamite era or?
38:06
I believe, you know, like one of the things that is talked about
38:14
Mark Malbec Maldek. Maldek is the planet of the
38:21
Anunnaki. Yes, OK.
38:23
Which in fact has come up in multiple sessions that I have
38:29
done with people that pull on Anunnaki bloodlines, defilement
38:34
and bondage. And by all observations that I
38:40
have, that was a real planet and there was a real cataclysm with
38:44
that planet and a judgement. And these this entity group, the
38:48
Anunnaki is a pre Adamic entity group that was already operating
38:53
in conspiracy against God prior to Adam being put in the garden.
38:58
And they seem to be behind the like actual deployment of some
39:04
humanoid beings that walked this planet.
39:09
And so, so if I'm kind of hearing this correctly in, in a
39:12
nutshell, the spirit, the body's soul separate, triune, right.
39:17
Experientially, there's a part of, of that light or life in US.
39:24
You know the the Bible talks about the life being in the
39:26
blood, right and all three of these have to come together in
39:30
order to define what a man is. A man is made for the first
39:33
time, but you have these three separate compartmentalized ideas
39:36
of what God is giving us that makes man definitionally
39:39
biblically one of those can be correlated to this this pre
39:44
Adamite age. Do you think that so like this
39:47
is now I'm tracking with you, but like what I'm trying to
39:50
understand is like, did they have trees like we have trees
39:53
now, but do they just have a different variation of trees and
39:55
when God created Bara that that first time or or molded.
40:01
Right. Did he just change the game
40:04
because this this isn't foreign for me that the Bible talks
40:07
about the end of the ages. God will all the Hashimaims, the
40:10
heavens and the earth will be rolled up like a scroll brand
40:13
new. So this is definitely not
40:14
foreign at all to the Christian mindset or to or to the ancient
40:17
Israelite mindset. This is actually refreshing.
40:21
It, it, it, it, it it's what I what I would like to know is are
40:24
you considering the ancient prior to Adam Brown was just a
40:28
spiritual realm or do you think that there was actually physical
40:31
defined characteristics that that we would relate to our
40:35
temporal experience right now? Was it was it that physical too?
40:39
Because then we'd have to like kind of develop the body
40:41
question, right, Like, because, well, you know, it's not out of
40:45
the question for angels. They're they're materializing,
40:47
dematerializing, either elemental in nature.
40:49
We did all elemental Series A while back.
40:52
I had you on like two or three years ago for that.
40:54
All of this is in my framework and I sound a little messy.
40:58
Help me try to understand, was there a locality and a
41:02
physicality that is similar to what we have now in the pre
41:09
Adamite age? That's I guess what I'm asking.
41:11
So I think that, you know, the earth is both spiritual and
41:15
physical as a rule. And I think that there was
41:20
periodemic activity that is both physical and spiritual at the
41:24
same time. OK.
41:26
And you just can't. Separate the one from the other,
41:27
can you? Like you can't really.
41:29
At the end of the day, you can't separate them.
41:31
Let's just be honest. Yeah, it's a tangle.
41:33
It's a tangle now. Now to, to further answer your
41:39
question, I'm going to come back to another scripture, right?
41:41
Because so so with the body, soul, spirit conversation like
41:46
Adam received a body in Genesis and you know, God creates from
41:52
the dust of the earth. He pulls Eve out of the side,
41:55
creates her from his rib. Like that's in linear time and
41:59
events that you can map to the word of God.
42:02
However, the Bible says in Job 38 verse 7, as God is laying the
42:10
foundation of the earth, the sons of God sang together in the
42:14
morning stars shouted for joy, which means that there are
42:17
heavenly beings that are actually already created,
42:22
sentient and in existence as God is creating this planet.
42:28
So joke 38, seven of the sons of God in the morning stars is in
42:33
the context of Genesis 11. In the beginning, I created the
42:37
heavens and the earth. They're watching and they're
42:40
doing jobs. They're actually because one of
42:42
the heavenly jobs is to worship God.
42:44
That's the job. Like you.
42:46
Absolutely, Absolutely. So.
42:48
Interesting. You have the sons of God in
42:50
most, but your question is what qualifies as a son of God as a
42:54
heavenly being? And I believe that God is the
42:59
Father of lights. In other words, every spirit
43:03
that God created was created as a legitimate child of their
43:08
Father, Father God. Lucifer was a child of God,
43:13
Gabriel was a child of God, Angels were children of God, and
43:19
spirits of humans that were created were children of God.
43:25
And in fact, it's that same identity to which we are being
43:28
reconciled in the New Testament. Yeah, I mean, Christ, the light
43:32
that lighteth every man, right? I mean, there's so many things
43:35
that are popping for me. And what?
43:36
Gave us power to be called the children of God, exactly as many
43:40
as are led by the Spirit of God. They are the sons of God.
43:45
So you. Trust.
43:46
So, so you have these spirit beings that are all created.
43:49
God is a father of lights. We're his children.
43:52
So you have a context where you have spirits and I believe it.
43:57
This is what I believe. I believe it's angelic and human
43:59
and elemental. I believe that there are all
44:02
kinds of spirits that God has created and they're in this pre
44:06
Adamic spirit world reality of first estate.
44:11
In fact, they are watching as creation is happening is the
44:16
cascade and earth is pictured in Job 38 verse 7 as part of that
44:21
cascade. So we get a a snapshot, a window
44:24
and whoa, look what God's doing. And so with that said, this is
44:32
where the the pre Adamic relevance to mankind actually
44:36
sits. Not as much with the physical
44:42
history of this planet prior to Genesis 1 and Genesis 2, but all
44:50
of the epic wars, dramas, betrayals, interpersonal
44:58
interactions, assignments of world, etcetera, of spirit
45:03
beings that existed for millennia prior to the cataclysm
45:09
of this planet. Because when we, and this is
45:15
where the scroll opens up at Bride Ministries, when we began
45:18
to minister into that window, what we found is that human
45:23
spirits were completely overwhelmingly injured from that
45:32
season of the conspiracy, the fall, the wars as a result of
45:38
the Luciferian rebellion. And it sits in like this
45:43
sequestered memory Bank of every human spirit I have ever
45:49
ministered to, mine included. So this is where it began for me
45:54
a few days after I had that dream I talked about earlier in
45:57
this podcast. I'm driving and I'm getting on a
46:00
highway. I'm literally getting on an on
46:02
ramp. I'm listening to the song and as
46:05
the song is playing and it's, it's, it's, it's called Yahweh
46:09
will manifest in English. It's it's a Spanish song.
46:12
So, but I'm, I'm listening to that song and it, you know, it's
46:16
like I'm, you know, there's something on the frequency of
46:19
the song, whatever. And I just was in into it at the
46:22
time. And suddenly the spirit is
46:27
forward. My human spirit is forward all
46:31
along with all of this emotion. I mean, it was unreal.
46:37
I was undone. It was deep.
46:40
There was pain, sorrow, like hurt.
46:46
And I was weeping profusely, so much that I couldn't see.
46:53
Like my eyes were just like complete blur.
46:58
And I'm like, this is the worst time yet because I wanted to
47:01
lean into it, but I couldn't because I was going to crash my
47:05
car. And all I knew was that I had
47:12
extremely deep emotion about things that happened
47:18
specifically in that time frame that I didn't know, but I knew
47:23
that I was going to have to find out because the emotion was just
47:27
too deep. And and that's where, you know,
47:29
I we talked about there's a difference between emotion in
47:32
the soul and emotion in the spirit, because the emotion that
47:36
my human spirit had about the pre Adamic ages is not something
47:40
my soul was in touch with it all because they weren't my it
47:44
wasn't my emotion. OK, so so from what you're
47:47
understanding, is the emotion that gets felt, only the spirit
47:51
has that library of emotion or experience, but the soul
47:55
doesn't? It didn't, no.
47:57
It didn't. OK, that's very interesting.
47:59
Yeah. And so so it's actually the
48:03
ministry to the human spirit that's unlocking the knowledge
48:07
of the pre Adamic ages where as sons of God's spirit beings,
48:12
human spirits had experiences that were trauma induced.
48:20
So over the years I've grown in my own understanding because I
48:26
started to get the memories back from my human spirit about what
48:30
the spirit was doing in those ages.
48:35
And it's, it's so fascinating because I it also under unlocked
48:42
a revelation on ages and cycles where time is not just a
48:46
straight line linear. It's time is actually like a
48:49
wheel and it's cycles. So you see repeating patterns
48:53
over and over and over again throughout time.
48:57
One example, for instance is is like the virgin of the and the
49:02
manchild. Like the manchild is Israel and
49:06
the virgin is his mother. That begins with the heavenly
49:12
Jerusalem who is the mother of us all according to Paul in the
49:15
book of Galatians, giving birth to Israel, which we are, the
49:18
Commonwealth of Israel. Then we Fast forward the first
49:22
virgin mentioned in scripture is Rebecca, wife of Isaac, mother
49:31
of Israel, Jacob, and then Mary virgin mother of who?
49:36
Jesus. Who is Jesus?
49:38
Well, Jesus is, yes, the lion of the tribe of Judah,
49:41
representative also of the House of Israel according to Matthew
49:46
chapter 2. And you know the counterpart
49:48
passage in Hosea where he's defined as Israel out of Egypt,
49:54
I have called my son Israel is that's Jesus.
49:57
So Jesus becomes that and then in the last days you have the
50:02
virgin birthing the manchild, which is really the church
50:05
representing Christ to the nations.
50:07
And so like over and over you see cycles on the same concept.
50:10
And what I realized is the cycles that the Spirit had
50:15
trauma by in the pre Adamic ages repeats on the experience of the
50:21
soul in this age. So we would run into people like
50:25
for me, betrayal, my, my spirit served as like in the military.
50:31
I did a lot of military stuff the spirit did in the pre Adamic
50:34
ages, fought wars, etcetera, etcetera.
50:38
And the level of betrayal was off the charts.
50:43
Guess what happened when I got into this world?
50:46
Oh my gosh, it's an annual. Trail.
50:49
And I realized like I'm living out a cycle, but it's pattern
50:55
after it's this pre Adamic experience.
51:00
And but there's similar things because even over here, what am
51:03
I doing? I'm raising up the army of God.
51:06
I'm I'm equipping frontline ministers that do deprogramming
51:09
for survivors of MK Ultra and Illuminati stuff.
51:11
Like we're raising an army of people to do that.
51:14
I was raising an army in the pre Adamic ages too.
51:17
And so it's like you see these patterns, but the conflicts are
51:22
not what you would expect. So I will be ministering to a
51:26
person, maybe they're a survivor of human trafficking.
51:29
Well, when we start to minister to their spirit and get into the
51:33
pre Adamic experience of their spirit, I will find that during
51:37
the pre Adamic wars, their spirit was taken hostage by
51:41
what? The Luciferian rebellion.
51:43
And then what happened? They were prostituted as a
51:46
spirit being to other spirit beings around the heavens in
51:50
that dark Kingdom. And so now they're over here,
51:54
they are being trafficked all over.
51:57
And it's like the same bondage cycles from one age to the next.
52:02
And I realized that the blood of Jesus is not bound by this age.
52:15
And so, you know, this was part of the Revelation 12 Revelation
52:20
where it says and now has come the Kingdom of our God, the
52:25
power of his Christ, the accuser of the brethren has been cast
52:29
down and they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and the
52:31
word of their testimony. That Revelation 12 passage like
52:35
top to bottom. It is not designed to be
52:38
interpreted in a single frame of time.
52:40
That was that was a big breakthrough that I realized
52:43
when I can look at Revelation 12 and I can say this passage has
52:47
application in the pre Adamic age.
52:49
It has application at the time when Jesus was actually
52:51
physically walking the earth. It has application in future
52:54
prophetic context. It's it's a cycle.
52:57
What I realized that the elements of that passage
53:00
traverse ages, including the blood of Jesus.
53:04
Exactly. That's prophecy at its best.
53:07
I mean, prophecy and poetry are inseparable.
53:10
Not rhythmic in words alone, but rhythmic in experiences.
53:13
It's cyclical, right? I'm dude, I'm, I'm with you on
53:17
this. This is like so many things are
53:19
jumping for me. And I, I want to, I want you to
53:23
continue because I don't want to derail it, but yeah.
53:26
This is good. As we began to get into this
53:29
world, it's it's like, wait a minute, this is actual bondage
53:33
holding people hostage. People's lives, people's
53:35
businesses are derailed, people's marriages are derailed,
53:38
people's peace is derailed. And it's because of the bondage
53:43
that their spirits underwent in pre Adamic ages.
53:47
So we started applying the blood of Jesus across ages back into
53:52
those events on behalf of the human spirit.
53:54
Guess what breakthrough, Guess what?
53:57
Deliverance. Guess what?
53:59
Freedom changed, lives changed path.
54:03
We're watching some of the most extraordinary.
54:05
So so this to me is like, I'm not talking about this because
54:08
of intrigue. I'm talking about this because
54:11
people's lives depend on it. Breakthrough it's it's it's a
54:14
real manifested thing. So my question is, when you're
54:18
getting these breakthroughs, does the person need to have
54:21
their spirit come forward and actually relay everything that
54:25
that that they're in quantumly entangled with from this age of
54:28
the past? Or because what if what if
54:30
people haven't had that awakening yet?
54:32
Right? So like, my thing is, I dip in
54:34
and out of this even as you're talking, I'm like, dude, I'm I'm
54:39
on the ride. I'm locked in, man.
54:42
Now there there's also a part of me that doesn't understand or
54:47
know the totality of what I experienced, but I I'm relating
54:51
right? So like my question is for me to
54:53
get full deliverance and to get full healing right from the age
54:57
of the past, do I need to know all that through my spirit man?
55:00
Do I need to you know what I'm saying or can can literally is
55:03
there a universal application prayer?
55:05
We know that the blood of Jesus is the weapon that destroys
55:10
everything, right? But do you need to specifically
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say I'm, you know, come out of covenant with alternative crap
55:18
associate, you know, whatever, right?
55:20
I mean, I mean, this is where this is where it gets
55:22
interesting for me because it's like when you're seeing
55:24
deliverance and you're seeing people get healed and set free.
55:27
What does that application look like?
55:30
Step 1-2 and three, is that person confessing A literal OK,
55:35
help me understand that a little bit too.
55:36
And then continue. Yeah, I'm with you.
55:38
So glad you asked. So the good news is the people
55:42
that listen to this podcast and he was having this conversation
55:44
have the same question, only need to know that it already got
55:49
figured out for them. So I actually have in the
55:53
awakened book prayer resources that will get a person
55:57
breakthrough in these areas regardless of their level of
56:00
awareness regarding their own human spirit.
56:03
We already mapped a whole lot of the types of bondages and
56:06
conflicts and problems and results in this created prayer
56:09
templates. And all the person has to do is
56:12
feel it out and say, you know what, this feels like it
56:14
resonates. I may not be able to connect
56:16
with all the data, but I'm going to go through this prayer.
56:19
They'll get a breakthrough. I mean, it's incredible, the
56:21
grace of God. So yeah, I mean, it was, it was
56:24
hard work mapping a lot of the stuff, but once done and now the
56:27
tools are available and it's and so I just put it in the book.
56:30
I mean, it made it easy. It's like OK.
56:32
Universe. Yeah, so, so, so yeah.
56:35
It's not even like creating a problem in a Riddle without a
56:37
solution. It's like, no, exactly.
56:39
We solved the Riddle and we want to give you the solution.
56:41
Because my goal as a deliverance and air healing minister, I just
56:44
want people free. I want people walking in their
56:47
identity. I want people walking in their
56:49
calling. I want people walking in the
56:51
resources of heaven. I want people giving the devil a
56:53
black eye and serving up a whole, you know, table full of
56:57
hurt for the Kingdom of darkness on a daily basis.
56:59
Like, that's what I want. And so my whole objective and
57:02
motive in having this conversation is this is going to
57:05
get people in that place in ways they probably don't expect.
57:11
So, you know, when you're mapping, yeah, you need the
57:14
human spirit forward and you need to actually do the hard
57:17
work of mapping the memories. But for the average person, this
57:21
is going to pick this up and say I just want some freedom.
57:24
They just need. They just need the templates
57:26
which are there. Is OK very, very interesting
57:30
personally, definitely because I go like up and down like I
57:35
relate a lot with the Psalms and you know, God, my enemies are
57:39
surrounding me help me Lord, what the heck?
57:42
How am I here again? And then it's like he's never
57:45
left me. He's faithful.
57:46
He comes through. And so as I'm listening to you
57:51
and I'm wrestling through this and I'm trying to like, imagine.
57:56
What? Stuff in the bloodline in the
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past and all of it, all spectrums, all layers of it are
58:04
still kind of programmed in there, taking, taking a portion
58:08
that doesn't belong to them. Right?
58:09
Like what? What does the Kingdom of
58:11
Darkness have access to? I remember Vicki Joey Anderson
58:13
on an interview. She once told me, Rod, I want
58:16
every cell, every booger, every anything that's ever, you know,
58:21
every sweat droplet, I want it redeemed and I want it back from
58:25
the captors, right. And and that were like, really,
58:28
you know, when she said that, it like rattled me, rattled my cage
58:31
a little bit. We'll say, right.
58:32
And now what you're saying is like, OK, so I feel personally,
58:36
Dan, like I have minor breakthroughs, but there's still
58:39
like an elongated process where it's like desert testing failure
58:45
succession, Oh, confidence broke in a contrite.
58:49
And, and so that's something that I need to press into and,
58:53
and, and figure out a little bit more, to be honest with you,
58:56
because. Yeah, it it, it's so
59:00
complicated, right. So, so one of the things that is
59:03
an example of how how this lands.
59:06
Yeah. OK, this is wild.
59:07
OK, because I'm telling you we're on, we're unlock in the
59:10
mysteries of the universe as there's so many stories, but.
59:12
Discovering truth. Discovering truth so we're just
59:15
in an event OK, so just the other weekend I'm in an event we
59:19
have our advanced deliverance intensive.
59:22
We had 330 attendees on, you know, line and then about 100
59:27
all together. So it was about 150 people in
59:29
person and then the rest all these folks online.
59:32
So it's a large audience. And as part of that I'm teaching
59:36
and as part of that I'm doing live demonstration.
59:38
So I'm actually pulling people on the stage, sitting them down
59:41
and then hundreds of people get to watch me minister to someone
59:44
stuff. So everything that happens is
59:48
100% public. And so a guy comes up and it's
59:52
like, OK, it's time to minister. What's the problem now?
59:56
He's kind of already baked in a little bit of this revelation
59:59
and has already had some insights.
1:00:01
He said look. I keep seeing like my spirit, my
1:00:05
human spirits in bondage. I, I, I, I, I'm in bondage to
1:00:10
the Igdrazzil tree. That's a, that's a world tree.
1:00:13
It's a pre Adamic structure. Anyone to study Norse mythology
1:00:17
and, and, and well, all you have to do is watch the marvel movies
1:00:20
because they make reference to Eggdrazzil through Thor.
1:00:22
But like it's the nine realms and he's without I'm in bondage
1:00:26
to that. And you know, as we started to
1:00:29
do the ministry right, his human spirit is up and we are learning
1:00:33
his human spirit was taken hostage in a sense he and and
1:00:40
and and injured by the Alvin Kingdom in a pre Adamic age.
1:00:46
And to the extent that they even like removed one of his limbs
1:00:51
and replaced it with like a castle.
1:00:53
He had like a like a Alvin replacement arm that was not
1:00:56
original human spirit design. Guess what, he had that injury,
1:01:01
his spirit like for thousands of years and was born with the
1:01:06
spirit having that injury up until this deliverance.
1:01:10
So he's seeing it 300 and some people are watching this
1:01:12
deliverance happen. Everybody's eyes are like what
1:01:16
the heck? Because people are not used to
1:01:18
seeing a deliverance minister freely move in and out of like
1:01:22
different ages as the deliverance ministry is
1:01:25
manifesting. But for me, this is like every
1:01:28
day. So, so I just, we just go there
1:01:31
and Jesus gets to do what he wants to do.
1:01:33
So, so we get deliverance for him from the Igdrazil tree,
1:01:37
massive deliverance from the Alvin bloodline and genetics and
1:01:41
the bondage associated there. He actually sees his human
1:01:45
spirit getting that foreign arm replaced.
1:01:48
God puts the original back that's supposed to be there.
1:01:52
So there's healing that goes along with that.
1:01:54
That translates like it's extraordinary.
1:01:57
And and and so we have 370 people watching this deliverance
1:02:01
and it's clean. He leaves the stage delivered
1:02:05
and set free and different. But what we're actually
1:02:08
delivering this person from is a pre Adamic bondage anchored to
1:02:13
their human spirits experience with pre Adamic entity groups,
1:02:19
namely the Elven entity group and their world tree that they
1:02:23
cooperate with called the Igdrazole.
1:02:26
It's real. This is wild.
1:02:28
I mean, OK, all the framework fits and works for me.
1:02:33
You know, everything that you're saying is like it's, it's out
1:02:37
there, but it's out there in the place that I, I live in 40 hours
1:02:42
a week, but I'm not there full time.
1:02:43
Like, you know, I'm not living there 24 hours a day yet.
1:02:46
And it's, it's, it's, it's, it's explosive.
1:02:51
I'm interested in, you know, the full unveiling of it.
1:02:56
You know, everything that you're saying here is like, where does
1:03:00
the body of Christ catch up? I mean, because I live in like
1:03:04
the middle of the realms. You know, I, I think it was the
1:03:07
late Doctor Mike Heiser when he used to go on Canary Cry radio
1:03:10
way back in the day, used to talk about it from the
1:03:13
perspective of the Lord of the Rings, right?
1:03:16
And he used to say Gandalf lives in the middle of the world's,
1:03:19
like he knows the hobbits and he also knows the elves, right?
1:03:22
And he knows all these different races and as just a podcaster,
1:03:25
the guy next door who's chasing after the Lord, failing forward
1:03:30
victories and losses, all these things that I've experienced in
1:03:34
seven years of broadcasting. I am in a crossroads where I, I
1:03:38
see both of both sides of it, right?
1:03:40
Where I see like the limping and the just distraught deprivations
1:03:45
of Christianity at his first glance.
1:03:48
And then I see like the weirdest tip of the spear, stuff like
1:03:51
what you're doing. And and I'm like, oh, my God,
1:03:54
like, how is it even a responsibility to try to get
1:03:57
people to understand this? I don't know, like, maybe Lord's
1:04:02
will be done right. Nothing will hold back what his
1:04:05
plan is. And his prophetic exposure is
1:04:07
going to be exactly the way that he wants it.
1:04:09
He's going to get it the way that he wants.
1:04:10
OK, but I do see both sides of it.
1:04:13
And I'm also walking into it myself being like, OK, if I
1:04:19
leave behind this experience, I may never be able to communicate
1:04:22
with the average churchgoer again.
1:04:24
Like I'm already black sheep and I get a little bit of
1:04:27
communication, but they're really going to run me out of
1:04:29
the house if I grab hold of this.
1:04:33
Dan it it's it's amazing. Now scripturally going through
1:04:37
it. I wanted to mention a couple
1:04:38
things that were jumping throughout your speaking
1:04:42
framework wise 100% there, dude. If if, if the dead are in Christ
1:04:46
are raised 1st and we who remain are transfigured right in an
1:04:50
instant in in, you know, a second of the fastest
1:04:53
measurement of time and we're like him for we see him at his
1:04:56
coming. This is what's interesting for
1:04:58
me is like the concealment of the Old and the New Testament,
1:05:01
right and the prophetic concealments, right.
1:05:03
So wouldn't it be interesting that if the first or last and
1:05:07
the last are first, is that it the pre Adamite age that
1:05:13
transfiguring at the end of the physical ages that we're
1:05:17
experiencing now is a complete swap in agreement and
1:05:21
completion. Like it like a a mega
1:05:25
climactical restoration of the beginning to the end.
1:05:29
And like if man is appointed mortal sorrow and the blessed
1:05:32
God comes down teaching that his death shall bring the despairing
1:05:35
comfort and rest. As it stats the you know, the
1:05:39
translation of the Hebrew names the 10 patriarchs in the Old
1:05:42
Testament from Adam down to Noah.
1:05:45
You know, Seth, Methuselah, Mahalalah, all the all those
1:05:48
guys all the way down to Noah, man's appointed mortal sorrow.
1:05:51
So the, the combination of man, body, soul and spirit, triune
1:05:55
nature is like this voting booth, this expression of a
1:05:59
reversal of all the ages, all the timelines, all of the realms
1:06:04
that God existed because the Lord is a spirit.
1:06:07
You guys and those who worship him must worship in spirit and
1:06:11
in truth. So what Dan is saying here is
1:06:14
beyond fascinating. It's not a it's not a matter of
1:06:16
oh, this is cool or interesting. This is speaking to inner parts
1:06:20
of me where I'm like, yeah, yeah, I mean, destined to head
1:06:24
that way, right where I want to know more.
1:06:27
I really want to wrap my head around it.
1:06:30
And there's so many things that are jumping for me.
1:06:32
You got something to say? What's?
1:06:34
Going on, let me just say this first of all, I, I commend you
1:06:36
for your bravery in like having me on your podcast to talk about
1:06:40
this. I mean, to me, this is like, oh
1:06:41
so practical and, and normal, but like truly, you know, I'm,
1:06:45
I'm in a very different headspace than like, you know,
1:06:47
and, and it's in. Bravery.
1:06:49
To let new ideas out like it's, you know, but the beauty is you
1:06:52
don't have to agree with me and I'm not trying to make you or
1:06:57
anything like that. I'm just saying I'm just
1:06:58
presenting the ideas. Now.
1:07:00
Now here's the thing, there's another part of this right?
1:07:03
Genesis chapter 128. The Bible says that God said to
1:07:07
men, fill the earth and subdue it.
1:07:10
Now here's the thing about that statement, fill the earth and
1:07:13
subdue it. In Genesis 1, the word for Phil
1:07:16
is mala. What that means is to consecrate
1:07:21
and replenish. In other words, you consecrate
1:07:25
something that's been defiled. So ruined exactly.
1:07:29
And you replenished something that was filled and depleted.
1:07:34
So what is man doing? It's a redemptive work.
1:07:38
It's all a redemptive work, dude.
1:07:40
It makes so much sense. Like threads biblically and all
1:07:44
of the different places I'm going.
1:07:45
It makes it makes so much sense. And this is something that Dan
1:07:49
is really worthy of a concealment for the latter ages.
1:07:52
So like, it's not like, oh, God has been trying to get this out
1:07:56
forever and couldn't. No, he has a time for it to
1:07:59
become relevant to come out. That's the whole point of him
1:08:02
being in control and having the separation and having the ages.
1:08:06
And he's the power source of it. And that's why he was able to
1:08:09
speak the beginning from the end.
1:08:10
That's why prophecy has weight and it has power because he knew
1:08:14
when the release of that kind of stuff would come to the body.
1:08:17
So as a bridge, as somebody who's offered the microphone and
1:08:21
is saying, Yep, let's ripple this thing out because I know
1:08:24
there's plenty of people out there that are going to listen
1:08:26
to this and it's going to definitely stir the pot man.
1:08:30
And I want to just, you know, honor, you live in this space,
1:08:33
right? So like you're there, you're
1:08:36
Dan's living in this space. I'm tapping into it from time to
1:08:39
time when I communicate with Dan.
1:08:40
So my expressions may be might remind you of years ago when you
1:08:46
first started to fit you like, Oh, I remember feeling like that
1:08:49
or trying to make that connection or, you know, so I'm
1:08:51
a little bit behind what you're working on, but I just want to
1:08:54
honor you. Your book awakened and obviously
1:08:56
released last November. There's well, no audio version
1:09:02
of it coming. Maybe maybe in the future, if,
1:09:04
if God opens that door for you. But people can order it on
1:09:07
Amazon, They can go to your website.
1:09:09
I've had you and my Canary cry buddies, Basil and cons listed
1:09:13
in the details of show notes for quite some time.
1:09:15
It's it's under the section find my friends.
1:09:18
You guys are, are two of my reference points there.
1:09:20
So everybody knows how to get a hold of you.
1:09:22
OK. But what I want to say is give
1:09:25
us a bit of, you know, as we land this thing here, give us a
1:09:30
bit of insight. What's what's Dan working on?
1:09:32
What's, what was the last bride advance like?
1:09:36
Is there any like new explosions coming?
1:09:39
We're living in such a crazy time slot, dude.
1:09:43
All these things going on, right?
1:09:46
What? What's happening, dude?
1:09:47
What do you see that's coming down in 2026?
1:09:50
This year, Anything that you've identified in the Spirit.
1:09:53
Can't ask me that question. I know I end up too.
1:09:56
You gotta. Ask it at the beginning, it's
1:09:58
just too. There's too much to say.
1:10:00
I don't even know. Let's get you scheduled.
1:10:02
When can you come back? You got calendar.
1:10:04
When can you come back, Dan? Well, you know, there was an
1:10:09
interesting thing that happened at this most recent bride tribe
1:10:13
advance. And you know, I'm, I'm going to
1:10:18
really oversimplify what happened just for the sake of
1:10:21
your audience, but let's just say the Lord pretty much pulled
1:10:24
us into a type of corporate intercession at the end.
1:10:29
And it was like a holy convocation.
1:10:33
And what emerged out of that is I believe we are entering the
1:10:39
age of the Army of God, like the end time army is now on the
1:10:45
docket to be activated by heaven into action.
1:10:50
Now, that doesn't mean that we're now suddenly going to see
1:10:52
Christians running around shooting people like that's not
1:10:54
the army of God. But the Army of God is going to
1:10:57
be activated into action where you're going to see the church
1:11:02
begin to govern the spirit world and hold accountable the powers
1:11:05
of darkness like never before. And that is now it's open.
1:11:13
It's we are already in the season and that was really that
1:11:17
that landed at the end of our most recent events.
1:11:20
And now we're stepping into it. But one of the things that's
1:11:24
very clear for me when we talk about stepping into that role is
1:11:29
we're stepping into our priesthood at a different level.
1:11:33
One of the things that you see in the garden with Adam is Adam
1:11:38
was first ministering to God, second to God's creation.
1:11:43
There was no man for Adam to minister to when he started.
1:11:47
It was he had to name all the animals and he was ministering
1:11:51
to the creation 1st and then God brought Eve and then there were
1:11:56
children and on and on. So Adam was and Eve jointly, the
1:12:01
first king, priests. They were supposed to be a
1:12:05
Kingdom of priests. That when that didn't work out,
1:12:08
God did not abandon that plan. He gave that plan to Israel as a
1:12:12
nation. They declined to be a Kingdom of
1:12:14
priests. And so the Levitical priesthood
1:12:17
was instated. And then God gave that plan
1:12:19
again and deployed it in Christ Jesus through the order of
1:12:22
Melchizedek, of which he is high priest.
1:12:25
And we are a Kingdom of priests now that are doing the original
1:12:30
Commission of Adam, which is a redemption of creation.
1:12:34
And we minister to God, to his creation and to man.
1:12:38
So now as the end time army, you're going to see a revelation
1:12:42
take over in the body of Christ where what I'm calling
1:12:47
prophetically out now, people are going to be pulled into
1:12:50
redemption of land like you haven't seen before.
1:12:53
Because everybody knows Abel's blood cried out from the ground
1:12:58
when King killed him. Blood will crowd from the ground
1:13:01
injustice like there is a defilement of the earth.
1:13:05
When Moses needed help with dealing with the rebellion of
1:13:10
Korra, the earth swallowed the rebellion.
1:13:13
The earth fought with the generals of heaven.
1:13:17
You're going to see creation getting pulled into the
1:13:20
redemptive application of priesthood and sonship in this
1:13:25
era like we haven't seen before. Book of Exodus, miracles, those
1:13:29
are coming back, and it's going to come back on the basis of
1:13:33
comprehension as the body of Christ is being brought into
1:13:38
what we're supposed to do, not just for other people, for God's
1:13:42
creation. The whole creation groans,
1:13:44
awaiting the manifestation of the sons of God, Romans 8.
1:13:48
Why? It's going to be delivered into
1:13:50
the liberty of the children of God.
1:13:52
That's us that is coming online. And this is actually really cool
1:14:01
because just like the earth fought with Moses against the
1:14:05
rebellion of Korra, and there are other examples just like the
1:14:10
sun stopped and stood still in the sky so Joshua could finish
1:14:14
the slaughter of the enemies of Israel.
1:14:17
You're going to see creation, heaven and earth begin to fight
1:14:21
alongside the children of God in in in the very face of the on
1:14:28
onslaught of what the Antichrist beast Kingdom is coming like
1:14:31
this is this is all about to go bonkers bananas rod and so you
1:14:36
want to you want to talk about what's coming like this is a
1:14:39
whole that we could talk about this for a very long time, but
1:14:42
that is I think all we have time for praise God.
1:14:48
Man very encouraging and refreshing it's that is the word
1:14:54
you guys. It's been settled in heaven.
1:14:56
It's been given to us, it's been prophetically issued out
1:15:01
generation after generation. It has been echoed and agreed
1:15:04
upon and we just might be lucky enough to be living in the very
1:15:10
generation that's going to experience some of the climaxes
1:15:12
of it. I agree.
1:15:13
The late Doctor Chuck Missile used to say he believed that he
1:15:17
lived to help prepare one of the most prophetically talked about
1:15:20
generations in in in history. And I think we're right there,
1:15:25
you guys. I mean, we are.
1:15:27
There's really no way around it unless your head's in the sand.
1:15:29
And that's not to beat up on anybody who's we would and wod
1:15:32
by these topics or anything that Dan or I have said today, but
1:15:35
it's it's hopefully to be encouragement.
1:15:37
You guys OK, because the word does not return void.
1:15:41
Dan Duvall, the one and only. Yeah, man, we did it.
1:15:44
Book awakened You guys go grab a copy of it.
1:15:47
The prayers that are in there. Dan answered and addressed a
1:15:50
couple of those questions I had like, is there a universal one
1:15:54
time prayer for the people whose spirit haven't come forward?
1:15:56
He answered that. Yeah, they built it into the
1:15:59
system. I'm going to get myself a copy
1:16:02
and we're going to keep marching forward because that's that's
1:16:05
what we have to do with the time remaining guys, is to recognize
1:16:08
each other, not to let our love grow cold, but to to let that
1:16:12
love remain. So calling on all of you guys
1:16:15
out there listeners to share these episodes, keep us in
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Try and trust no. One daylight stay
1:17:46
want to see your light shine. Beauty and passion.
1:17:49
Just like it's the first time. Oh my baby, I'm a gentleman at
1:17:54
heart, unless you win the service of my enemy or worker.
1:17:58
Rather dark. I speak light words and happy
1:18:01
moments,