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Best of Chuck & Buck 2-23 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Part of the repertoire, right, yes, Ashley and I know that.
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  Speaker 1: That's Billy Joel. Come on now, yeah we do, Come
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  Speaker 1: on now, get off our asses. You heard me, Cliff,
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  Speaker 1: I know you're judging. That's Cliff, it's Chuck, it's Ashley
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  Speaker 1: with you know, Bucky. How was your week and weekend
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  Speaker 1: by the way, Yeah, doing all right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: That has many years driving you up a wall.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me about it. No, it's good.
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  Speaker 4: We did a late a girl's Gallantine day party. Late
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  Speaker 4: but we had a friend that moved back from Malaysia,
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  Speaker 4: so it was like a welcome home party.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, did she get dewormed?
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  Speaker 3: That's what she actually got home a week and a
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  Speaker 3: half ago.
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  Speaker 4: But she had to get like the spray shower and
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  Speaker 4: all that stuff and so yeah, but all was good.
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  Speaker 1: It was It was fun, okay, very good. All right, Well,
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  Speaker 1: welcome back. Hey, thanks Malaysian friend. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: glad you made it safely.
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  Speaker 5: Me too.
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  Speaker 1: It was nice.
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  Speaker 3: They were gone for three years.
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  Speaker 1: Three years. That's no picnic right there.
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  Speaker 3: They were living in a pretty good life.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty good life.
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  Speaker 3: They're massive condo overlooking the water.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Do they have to do like, did they have
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  Speaker 1: to wait a little while.
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  Speaker 3: No, just throw them right back into into society.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't know. Yeah, I really did have question.
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  Speaker 1: It was an honest question. All right, Well, let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about spring training. What I learned over the past week.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's sort of my responsibility here this week.
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  Speaker 1: I was your eyes and ears at spring training, and certainly,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I was there for the first official practices,
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  Speaker 1: full squad practices and everything else. And so I've got
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  Speaker 1: who looks different from a year ago, I got different
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  Speaker 1: things that I've heard, and we've certainly did a lot
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  Speaker 1: of interviews throughout the course of the week as well.
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  Speaker 1: And so I'll spend some time filling in this week,
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  Speaker 1: and let's start with second bay. I think this is
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  Speaker 1: a fascinating aspect of this team for this upcoming year.
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  Speaker 1: I realize that not everybody that is a Mariner fan
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  Speaker 1: feels one hundred percent sure about Cole Young. That we
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  Speaker 1: spent a lot of this offseason with a lot of
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  Speaker 1: Marinder fans seeking an improvement at second base in the
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  Speaker 1: offseason through the hot stove, and so you know, various
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  Speaker 1: players from CATL Marte to C. J. Abrams and others
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  Speaker 1: that could improve second base were tossed about. I'm pretty
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  Speaker 1: sure they never considered any of it, and they might
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  Speaker 1: have knocked on the doors just to see what the
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  Speaker 1: price tag was. But even though you aren't all that
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  Speaker 1: convinced about Cole Young, based on what I can tell,
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  Speaker 1: the Mariners are very convinced about Cole Young. Now take
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  Speaker 1: that what you will. If you don't trust their ability
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  Speaker 1: to evaluate talent, then I guess you can be suspicious
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  Speaker 1: about Cole Young. But they, the people in charge, think
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the young man. And when we talked
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  Speaker 1: to Justin Hollander, and we're going to replace some of
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  Speaker 1: that interview for you later on in today's show, I
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  Speaker 1: really thought, like, give us the update on the second
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  Speaker 1: base camp battle. And his reaction was there really isn't one.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yes, there is. Cole Young's not so locked
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  Speaker 1: in that he can't get knocked out of the starting job.
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  Speaker 1: He's not so locked in that he's guaranteed a roster spot.
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  Speaker 1: But to my surprise, Justin Hollander was very candid and
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  Speaker 1: said that no, Cole Young is the clear front runner.
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  Speaker 1: I was surprised. That's further than I thought he would
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  Speaker 1: be willing to go on the first week of full
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  Speaker 1: squad practices and so, yes, so he is the guy
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  Speaker 1: that they're kind of hoping and trusting is going to
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  Speaker 1: take a step forward. They're big fans of Cole Young,
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  Speaker 1: and he was twenty one years old when he debuted.
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  Speaker 1: That's a tender age, even for a major leaguer. And
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  Speaker 1: they gave him the marching orders last year that if
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  Speaker 1: you can win the job in spring training, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to give it to you, and he didn't quite get there,
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  Speaker 1: and so he started the year in the minors. But
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Bliss goes down with an injury and Cole Young
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  Speaker 1: was like an immediate call up at that point. And
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  Speaker 1: it was fine. I mean, I don't think he lit
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  Speaker 1: the world on fire as a rookie, and eventually, through
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  Speaker 1: his own admission, through the organization's admission, he did get
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  Speaker 1: fatigued from playing more baseball than he'd ever played in
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  Speaker 1: his entire life. And you know, being in a pennant
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  Speaker 1: race is probably emotionally taxing as well, and so by
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  Speaker 1: the end of the season he kind of wore down
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  Speaker 1: and they made the right decision of replacing him as
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  Speaker 1: the starting second baseman, and they didn't even give him
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  Speaker 1: a roster spot. In the postseason. But they have every
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  Speaker 1: com confidence that he's there. He's a piece of their future,
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  Speaker 1: a very strong piece. And so if I were you,
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  Speaker 1: I would expect that Cole Young is going to be
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  Speaker 1: our starting second baseman this year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that one of the concern I heard
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  Speaker 4: a lot from people was well, it just doesn't seem
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  Speaker 4: like he's all he's got.
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  Speaker 3: All his throws are very good.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he missed, and I think that Naylor did
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  Speaker 4: make him look pretty good once Naylor got there. But
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  Speaker 4: I think also Naylor helped him and so he calmed
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  Speaker 4: him down a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I think.
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  Speaker 4: I remember at one point there was even a conversation
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  Speaker 4: that maybe he'd just been a little too amped up
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  Speaker 4: and things like that and needed to just release, let things.
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  Speaker 3: You know, calm down.
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  Speaker 4: And so I think having someone like Naylor there to
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  Speaker 4: be on the receiving end of a lot of his
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  Speaker 4: throws and work with him more is only going to
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  Speaker 4: help him be better.
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  Speaker 1: Young and JP both struggled with their throats, yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: had to be bailed out by a first baseman who
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  Speaker 1: was much better defensively than I realized. Yeah, he's great
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  Speaker 1: watching him play every day for the first time in
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  Speaker 1: his career, and so that, yeah, that's an issue, but
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  Speaker 1: that's also a thing that can be improved. Yeah, absolutely
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  Speaker 1: with Perry Hill, you know, there at his side. So
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  Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see a better version. I think
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  Speaker 1: Cole Young's got a very high floor, and I think
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  Speaker 1: he's got more upside than what you realize. And he's
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  Speaker 1: got that sort of temperament like he doesn't realize like
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  Speaker 1: this is a big deal. He just doesn't and he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't quite grasp that he's really good at this. It
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  Speaker 1: it's just he just goes out to play ball every day. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and that's a you know, sometimes that can be a
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  Speaker 1: really valuable thing. So I'm expecting him to be the
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  Speaker 1: starting second baseman. Just like Cole Young got the opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to win a job a year ago in spring training,
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  Speaker 1: they're giving the same sort of license to Colt Emerson,
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  Speaker 1: the organization's top prospect. But my guess is, after being
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  Speaker 1: there a week, what I read into it was it's
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  Speaker 1: not a real high chance, mostly because of how confident
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  Speaker 1: they are in Cole Young. But I think they would
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  Speaker 1: ideally love to see cold Emerson sort of start in
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  Speaker 1: the minor leagues this year and then make it so
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  Speaker 1: blatantly obvious that he's ready for the big leagues. Then
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  Speaker 1: they call him up and then they figure out where
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  Speaker 1: do we play him. They are not going to stand
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  Speaker 1: in his way, I'll tell you that when they believe
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  Speaker 1: that he is ready. I just don't think they are
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  Speaker 1: going to count on him being ready to break camp
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  Speaker 1: as an everyday player for the Mariners and they won't
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  Speaker 1: activate him until he is ready for them.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I was gonna say that would be so
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  Speaker 4: unfair to him to put the pressure on him, like, well,
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  Speaker 4: we're relying on you to make this roster. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: that's that, and I'd be worried about the state of
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  Speaker 4: the Mariners if you're relying on someone so young to
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  Speaker 4: make the roster for your season success.
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  Speaker 1: They're the future of the infield, those two guys. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's Emerson's going to be the shortstop next year most likely,
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  Speaker 1: and Young is going to be the second basement. But
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  Speaker 1: now enter Michael Arroyo, who he didn't spend a lot
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  Speaker 1: of time talking about during the week, but they really
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  Speaker 1: like him as well. This is a top hundred prospect
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  Speaker 1: in the game. And what did he do in his
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  Speaker 1: first spring training game. It's home run, and and so
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  Speaker 1: and then and what happens over the weekend? Articles start
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  Speaker 1: being written about the hidden gym and the Mariners organization,
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  Speaker 1: Michael Arroyo and so look, I mean it might be
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  Speaker 1: all three of them. I mean it could be potentially.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Cole Young was bred as a shortstop. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how they would That could be second short
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  Speaker 1: and third that could be the infield of the future.
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  Speaker 1: We shall see. But Michael Arroyo cannot be forgetting forgotten
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  Speaker 1: in all of this. He will not break camp as
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  Speaker 1: an everyday starter, but he might not be that far
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  Speaker 1: away either. Now, Ryan Bliss is the guy that won
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  Speaker 1: the starting job last year, and you hate to see
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  Speaker 1: him lose his starting job because of an injury, but
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  Speaker 1: he's He's got a long road back to try to
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  Speaker 1: leap frog three prospects who are younger, more talented, and
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  Speaker 1: the organization has a lot invested in So Ryan Bliss
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  Speaker 1: was kind of given his opportunity. He didn't exactly seize
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  Speaker 1: it a year ago, and then he got hurt, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe he doesn't get that opportunity again.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe he does have to turn into a utility type player,
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  Speaker 1: which is what Leo Revas has accepted. This is my
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  Speaker 1: lot in life. I'm going to make this team. He
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  Speaker 1: told us this to our faces last week. If I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna make this team, it's going to be his utility player.
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  Speaker 1: And I understand that, and that might be where Bliss
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  Speaker 1: goes as well. With his athleticism, he should be able
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  Speaker 1: to do that. He should be able to play some outfield,
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  Speaker 1: second base, shortstop. Ryan Bliss could possibly fill that role
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  Speaker 1: as well. He told me he's faster than he was
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  Speaker 1: a year ago, and his injury was not to his legs,
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  Speaker 1: so whatever the setback was physically, Uh, he didn't stop
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  Speaker 1: training and he and Eric Young Junior both told me
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  Speaker 1: he's faster than he was a year ago. So he
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  Speaker 1: does have that weapon, which is nice to have off
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  Speaker 1: the bench.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take that.
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  Speaker 1: He's just got to catch up to a fastball, which
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  Speaker 1: we haven't seen him do at the major league level
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  Speaker 1: at this point. And then final, finally, Miles Master Bony,
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  Speaker 1: who we didn't talk a lot about last week. Dude
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  Speaker 1: put on some muscle. Of all the people that like
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  Speaker 1: changed physically, I could not believe how muscled Miles Master
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  Speaker 1: Boney is because you think of Miles Master Bony and
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  Speaker 1: you just think of a short, little singles hitter. Dude
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  Speaker 1: is thick, and I don't know how much he gained
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  Speaker 1: from a year ago, but let's just put it this way.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't spend a lot of time around the facility
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  Speaker 1: with his jersey on. I mean he had the tight
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  Speaker 1: T shirt on because.
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  Speaker 3: He wanted to show it off.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, when you when you feel like you look better,
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  Speaker 1: you usually don't put a baggy sweater on.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I often said a long time ago, if I looked
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  Speaker 4: like in Heidi Klume, I'd probably wear no clothes to her.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So I mean he was doing that for
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  Speaker 1: a reason. He put on some muscle. He's like jacked.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know where the role is for him
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  Speaker 1: on this team. Obviously, you are going to have a
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  Speaker 1: couple utility guys, and so they've always had a couple
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  Speaker 1: of utility guys. At one point, I think that had
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  Speaker 1: six on the roster, and so I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: there's only one spot this year with Leo Reevas staking
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  Speaker 1: that spot, but obviously master Bony's in the running for
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  Speaker 1: that and no threat to be the starting second basement.
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  Speaker 5: So there you go.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I learned about second base over our time
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  Speaker 1: at spring training. Coming up next, Get ready. It is
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  Speaker 1: for some people one of the most boring weeks of
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  Speaker 1: the entire football year, and yet I can't get enough
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  Speaker 1: of the pajama party. We'll discuss it next. Sports Radio
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  Speaker 1: ninety three point three KJRFM. Watch up behind the Neck,
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  Speaker 1: All right, it's Warensky Now. Jacks Poks a round the car,
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  Speaker 6: Jacks witche The Golden Golf Call the the United States. Well,
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  Speaker 6: the first time since the nineteen any better gold in
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  Speaker 6: the United States takes the doll Jack You've been in NBC.
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  Speaker 1: On the call. I think Kenny Alberg got a little
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  Speaker 1: caught off guard by that. He was like, that was
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  Speaker 1: his moment, that was his al Michaels makes my legacy moment.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he got caught off guard by that,
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  Speaker 3: which is weird.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 3: Should have been planning for that one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Should have you know to your seat
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  Speaker 1: kind of Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You knew it was gonna go one way or another. Well,
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  Speaker 4: there was three options, right, go mm hmm. The shootout
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  Speaker 4: I suppose.
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  Speaker 1: But think John Forsland would have nailed it.
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  Speaker 3: That's hockey baby, that's USA hockey baby. That's what he
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  Speaker 3: would have said.
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  Speaker 1: Think Everete Fitz he would have nailed it.
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  Speaker 7: Goal.
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  Speaker 1: I think he in forness might have nailed that would
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  Speaker 1: have been mm hmm.
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  Speaker 3: He would have forgotten he was ever born in Canada.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome into this Monday edition. If Chucking
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  Speaker 1: Buck in the Morning Sports Radio ninety three point three
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  Speaker 1: k j R F M. Bucky Jacobson was on my
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  Speaker 1: last nerve signed after him in Arizona. Stay down there,
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  Speaker 1: good work, Yeah, welcome. He designed otherwise you would have
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  Speaker 1: to be dealing with him today, Thank goodness. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Ashley Ryan is here as well. As we enter our
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  Speaker 1: second hour here on this Monday, Greg Bell is going
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  Speaker 1: to be joining us in a moment. He's under several
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  Speaker 1: blankets of snow in the Pacific or see me, the
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  Speaker 1: the Atlantic Northeast, not the Pacific Northwest. It's the Atlantic
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  Speaker 1: Northeast today. But is en root, we think to Indianapolis
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  Speaker 1: later this week, so we'll get the latest from him,
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  Speaker 1: what he's hearing on the ken Walker front, and so
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  Speaker 1: much more here in a matter of moments. But let
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  Speaker 1: us begin the seven o'clock hour with your headlines brought
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  Speaker 1: to you by Frost Brewed Corps Light Choose Chill, And
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  Speaker 1: the US did defeat Canada on the last day of
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  Speaker 1: the Winter Olympics. And Milan. I've always called it Milan,
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  Speaker 1: but I heard them yesterday, European types calling it Milan.
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  Speaker 1: I had no idea, so I guess I've been pronouncing
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  Speaker 1: it wrong. I don't know why we can't just get
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  Speaker 1: like a universal pronunciation of these things. Why do we
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  Speaker 1: always change it here?
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  Speaker 3: No clue, no clue. Great question.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but anyway, the Olympics came to an end last
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  Speaker 1: night closing ceremonies, but not before the US took hockey gold,
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  Speaker 1: first with the women's side, and then yesterday on the
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  Speaker 1: men's side with a two to one overtime victory. Jack
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  Speaker 1: Hughes with the game winner, broken teeth, fresh blood coming
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  Speaker 1: from his mouth after being hit by a high stick
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  Speaker 1: earlier in the game, and quite the picture of Olympic
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  Speaker 1: gold there on the ice in Milan as US takes it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't either. I think Milan sounds better.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sticking with it.
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  Speaker 5: What are you gonna do.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna stick with what sounds better.
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  Speaker 1: Kraken are going to resume their season on Wednesday. They'll
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  Speaker 1: be in Dallas to take on these Stars. The Sounders
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  Speaker 1: started their season yesterday at home against the Colorado Rapids
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  Speaker 1: and they end up winning two to nothing as the
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  Speaker 1: final score there. There is a new number one team
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  Speaker 1: in college basketball, the Duke Blue Devils knocked off Michigan
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday. What a day for college basketball.
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  Speaker 5: Man.
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  Speaker 1: They had like four outstanding games just lined up one
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  Speaker 1: after the other, and the biggest of the day was
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  Speaker 1: Duke winning over Michigan and they are now the new
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  Speaker 1: number one ranked team in college basketball. Mariner spring training
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  Speaker 1: a game Scott underway on Friday. Our coverage down there
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  Speaker 1: wrapped up last Friday. Good to be back, but we
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  Speaker 1: had a great time down there. Hopefully we delivered the
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  Speaker 1: kind of content you were looking for from us here
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  Speaker 1: on Chuck and Buck and so two out of three
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  Speaker 1: wins over the weekend, knocking the rust off and getting
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  Speaker 1: the springs started. But it's going to be a lengthy
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  Speaker 1: spring and of course we've got WBC in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of it as well this year. And finally, the NFL
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  Speaker 1: Combine is this week. People will start trickling into Indianapolis
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  Speaker 1: as soon as today. They'll do the weights and the
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  Speaker 1: measurements and what have you. The workouts don't start until Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: But for our own Greg Bell and many other Beat reporters,
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  Speaker 1: they use this week as access to their general managers,
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  Speaker 1: head coaches, and decision makers of the franchises they follow.
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  Speaker 1: And so before Greg tries to get to Indianapolis, he's
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  Speaker 1: going to join us right now from New England with
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  Speaker 1: the Bell tolls.
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  Speaker 8: It must be seven o'clock and time for twelfth Man
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  Speaker 8: with Chuck and But how are you Greg?
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  Speaker 5: Good morning? Yeah, I'm I'm in a snow globe. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's not too often you get to sit in the
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  Speaker 5: middle of a storm. They measured by seat instead of inches. Wow. Wow,
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  Speaker 5: two feet of snow in that's twelve fourteen.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, So I mean, are are you nervous
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: at all, worried or is it beautiful? You be able
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: to soak it in? I mean, what's what are you
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: feeling right now?
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: It's beautiful. I'm stranded with my wife, which doesn't help,
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: that's right. Yeah, we don't care. No, we went out
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: to dinner and Little Italy North end of Boston last
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: night and they were salting the hell out of the
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: roads and it started a little bit after midnight. We've
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: just been watching the snowfall and it's blowing. Really, I
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: take five blows here with the wind show and sixty
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: mile an hour winds, and it's sound like they're gonna
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: go out and walk around Beacon Hill in this right,
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: So no freedom trail for us today. But I'm not
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: sure I'm gonna make the combat.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Oh really at all?
• 18:26
  Speaker 9: No, I mean, well not not the John Schneider and
• 18:29
  Speaker 9: Mike McDonald part so lest But they're supposed to talk
• 18:32
  Speaker 9: tomorrow and Wednesday. It looks like, why might not get
• 18:35
  Speaker 9: out of Boston till Thursday unless the driver take a
• 18:39
  Speaker 9: train somewhere else.
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: But you know, if there was ever a year not
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: to be at the combine, this one, because I just
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: saw those guys a week and half ago at the
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl and the.
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: Parade, and there's not a whole lot that they've been doing,
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: and there's not a.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: Whole lot that they're going to offer us that we
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: don't already know.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Well, do you think we'll have any more answers or
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: updates on Walker or is that just a treasured secret
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: right now?
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, we've entered the negotiation posturing face, So anything
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: they would say would be for cat posturing, for leveraging
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: with their agent public perception wise, but the actual what
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: is happening on boots on the ground about that is
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: in between his age and David the new group that
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: kind of Walker hired right for the NFC title Game,
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: and John Schneider and his CAP guys. So they deciding
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: how much are they willing to offer how many years
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: in one of in his favor Walkers of course, not
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: only is he the Super Bowl MVP. People forget he's
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: still just twenty five years old. And if you're on
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: his side of the camp and his age, and you
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: could see him arguing, I'm barely entering my prime. He
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: just had me on a job share this year. I
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: hadn't played a full season up to now this is
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: a pretty fresh running back at the top of his game,
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: at the top of the exact of the sport. He'll
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: never have more max value than he does right now,
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: I mean at this moment, and the Seahawks have to
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: weigh at him what they want to do at a
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: position that you don't normally pay big box dollars two
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: for multiple years. So he would he probably would get
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: more in the open market because of multiple bidders. It'd
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: be up to Kenneth Walker and his agent whether they
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: want to do that round.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I know you don't learn a whole lot
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: about what they're thinking draft wise this week at the
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: NFL Combine. Maybe nothing. Maybe you don't learn anything about
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: what they're thinking draft wise. But I got to assume
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: an organization that has taken Ken Walker as high as
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: the second round and Zach Scharbonay in the second round
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: in recent years, I would think with this negotiation going
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: on Sharbonay injured, that they're probably going to watch the
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: running back class closer than any other thing this weekend.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they will draft the running back they would be
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: I mean, they only have four draft picks right now.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: First of all, it would be very un John Schneider
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: like even drafting at thirty second, at the bottom of
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: each of the first three rounds and Super Bowl champion,
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: to not trade back and try to get more than
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: the four picks he currently owns wouldn't surprise me if
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: he doesn't have a first round pick and trades it
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: back when habitually, when he's this high in the draft,
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: I mean this low in the first round, I should
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: say high twenties, Super Bowl runner up, Super Bowl. He's
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: traded down because he doesn't see thirty two first round picks,
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: first round quality picks, So it's a value an analysis
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: for him. Why not go big more draft picks for
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: later in the draft and not pay overpay for a
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: first round pick you don't have a first round great
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: on this draft. I'm sure you'd talk to some others,
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: and I've heard Rob Raang with Ian and a couple
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: others talk about how this draft is not particularly strong.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: In fact, it's one of the weaker ones in the generation.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: They think across the board, as it's just depth of
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: quality NFL players. It's much reminds me of the COVID
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: year when John Nightder only had three picks. They ended
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: up only making three picks and it was basically a
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: last year, and he said at a time, we just
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: don't see the value of drafting guys who some of
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: many of them haven't even played in the last eight
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: to twelve months because of COVID and canceled seasons, and
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: so the Sets basically punted that draft. Now they had
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: that affected them, and the teams in the league who
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: did okay were the top of the draft because they
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: had super fire prospects. This reminds me of that the
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: Seats having only four picks and at the bottom of
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: each round, that's a long way to say, Chuck, that
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: they are going to draft a running back, whether it's
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: in the first three rounds of the ones they currently
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: own or a pick that Schnyder goes and gets by
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: trading down some thirty two.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell is with US Seahawks Insider. He is in
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: the northeast snowstorm up in the Boston area and yet
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: still joining us here on Chuck and Buck in the
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: mornings Sports Radio ninety three point three KJR FM. If
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: and I don't even know, maybe Walker's not number one,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: But if Walker's not the number one priority amongst their
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: free agents, is it still Rashid chi Heat in your
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: mind or has somebody else perhaps you've gotten the impression,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: has moved up that list well.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: I ranked Rashid chi Heat has the number one priority
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: because I think he's going to be the easiest to resign.
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: Not that he's not worth it, but they value him,
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: and I think his market value in fact is I
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: know it's as a kick returner, and although he does
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: play wide receiver, he's not going to get paid for that.
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: So you're paying for a special team's ace, and you
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: should be able to get to IFC numbers of fourteen
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: million a year. Yeah, are going to pay him that.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: I don't know who's coming up with. I remember the Zerra.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: I'm going to pay him that. And if he wants
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: to go try to find that on his own, they'll say, yeah,
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: good luck, come back when you find what you're looking for.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: So it'll be something short of that that they could
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: then bring Tory Hortenbeck, who they think is going to
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: be fine after that shin injury, fine enough to be
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: ready for to start a training camp. That's their deep
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: wide receiver threat, and they really have seen him only
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: half a season in six seven eight games. The two
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: touchdown game against Washington was just a tease of what
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: he could be for them in this offense with Sam Darnold,
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: and then days later he's on the show for the
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: rest of the season with the Shinnon get right after
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: the Washington game. That was, of course, the same week
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: they fortuously traded for Rashid Shah. John Schneider talked to
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: us at the Super Bowl and he said, we honestly
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: didn't know at the time we got Shahed that Horton
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: was going to be out for the rest of the year.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: He called it God's will and serendipity that they traded
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: for Shaheed exactly when they lost Horton and basically swapped
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: the roles for each other. So they think they've got
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: Horton coming back to be the deep, off the top, fast,
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: deep threat wide receiver, and they've got they can resign
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: as a kick returner, Shaheed to be that role, and
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: then they'd have two guys that could take the top
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: off the defenses if they want to put them in
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: the same formation with kept coming back and jacking Smith
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: and Jick. That's what they're envisioning when Horden comes back,
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: So she heat is for what it's worth he has
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: absolutely loved his time here, and immediately when he came
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: here said he fell him over the area of the
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: locker room culture. I want to stay. I want to
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: retire here starting turn, but I want to retire.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Four years old.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: But how could you not want to come back to
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: a Super Bowl champion that you were absolutely featured and
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: could argue that be a super You could say he
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: was an MVP of the half of the season that
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: he played here. It's worth saying again. But throughout Rashid
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: Shaheed's pump return against the Rams, I'm not sure we
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: have a parade down Fourth Avenue a couple weeks ago,
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: because if they don't win that game, and they were
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: losing by sixteen or eight minutes left until sh He
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: ran that pump back, they lose that game to the
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: Rams on Thursday night at home, they're doing three road
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: games to get to the Super Bowl and having to
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: win three road playoff games and then probably had to
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: go to Inglewood and beat the Rams on their home
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: field to even get to the Super Bowl. They won.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we've we've spoken about this in the past,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: but I'm yes. I mean, the thing that a player
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: is looking for it, wants to be a part of
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: a winning product. But I'm telling you both. I mean,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I was just down spring training last week, and it's
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: not just that they have a good team, they have
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: the organization. They they made us shift a couple of
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: years ago. They did recognize they acknowledged clubhouse matters, chemistry matters,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: and I love we were noting it for three drafts
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: in a row, you and I and our conversation Saturday
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: at the draft. How intriguing, how entertaining, how intelligent, how
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: team oriented. All of the interviews sounded on Saturdays at
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: the draft another reason to create that culture. I mean, yes,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Rashid chha Heat, I'm sure wants to be a part
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: of a winning team, but this is a culture you
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: just don't like to walk away from.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: It.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Sounds like Leonard Williams, Julian Love, all of them speaking
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: to how much better they enjoy football in Seattle because
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: they're part of the Seahawks, and it matters, is greg
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: it does.
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: Chuck and John Schneider admitted that when they missed on
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: some picks like Malie McDowell and some of the first
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: round picks that they whipped on Jermainafetti. I hate to
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: point out individual players as being the ones that are
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: the antentthicis of this, but they went for need over
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: quality of the player. And Schneider said that he had
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: to regroup his scouting staff about three or four years
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: ago and say, look, let's get back to talking to
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: the ras and the janitors of the dorms and their
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: high school teachers, and to go back and find out
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: who these people really are as guys. And they got
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: away from that for a while, and it hurt the
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: chemistry and the clubhouse. To use the baseball algae there
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: a littlement of time. I've been around the manors, and
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: you remember I went to Toronto and covered the league
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: Championship Series double dipping with the Seahawks last fall. I
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: felt the same way about their clubhouse culture, that there
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: was a brotherhood together in and now winning. Of course
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: Foster's at but there is a chicken in the egg
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: argument to be made for about the Mariners and the
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: Seahawks in the last year of Did they win because
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: of how close they were and how much they liked
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: each other, or do they like each other so much
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: because they were winning? And we've talked about the Seahawks
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: started this back in April and May when they were
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: one hundred percent participation on involuntary stuff. Ernest Jones and
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: Leonard Williams and those guys after the Super Bowl, after
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: I mean the cigar smoke and the patron and the
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: champagne was still flowing talking to me about I'm sad, man,
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: I'm sad. I'm not gonna see these guys every day.
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: And I'm they said, even if everyone came back, and
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: he said that everyone in the veterans know that's impossible,
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: and the guys like Kenneth Walker won't come back or
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: someone like them, they won't have all seventy guys back.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: He said, that makes me sad because I'm never going
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: to be on a team this close again. Even at
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: Ernest Jones' telling me, even if they come back and
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: win the Super Bowl again next year, even if that,
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: it won't be as close as this team. He said,
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: it's impossible now close and the brotherhood and that the
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: goodness the squad had and I really create Mike McDonald
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: for that. Yes, John Schneider and his staff can bring
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: in the right guys, but then you need somebody who
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: can coalesce a bunch of twenty somethings to all have
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: individual agendas from all different backgrounds, who all have goals
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: and making money and taking care of their families for life,
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: and to get them on a course that had them
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: so cooperative and such a unified group from again from
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: August in May or excooset in April and May. So
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: it does matter. And a lot of people don't like
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: to hear about the intangibles of that stuff. But there's
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: only one team that won the Super Bowl issue. It's
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: the closest one I've ever recovered.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, it matters. Greg Belli is with us
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: our SAWKX insider here on Choking Buck in the Morning.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: So what's the latest with the sale and what kind
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: of timeline are we looking on looking at for that.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: Well, it's gonna take a few months at least, you
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: were saying multiple months to find a buyer that's going
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: to have the money to put it together. I'm here,
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: and it could go ten billion with a B dollars,
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: which would challenge the Lakers for the largest richest purchase
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: in sports North American sports history. It's definitely going to
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: eclipse the six billion that the Washington Commanders sold for
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: in twenty twenty three. Just the valuation of the NFL,
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: how they print money here after year. In the new
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: media rights deal, they could land between nine and eleven
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: billion dollars. And that's going to take a little bit
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: of time, both to find an investor who wants to
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: do that, a group of investors, and to get that
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: vetted and finances and the lawyers and all that.
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: So it's probably gonna last through.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: The entire offseason. They would like to, for tidiness sake,
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: get it done before the season begins in September. I
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: don't know how feasible that is. It's already been just
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: above March. That would be six months from now. I
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: don't know that Jeff Bezos, for instance, one is interested
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: or two would buy it. I don't think. My inclination
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: is it's more likely to be a group of investors
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: instead of one singular gazillionaire. I hear Steve Balmer getting
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: thrown around quite a bit, and people would love that
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: for that to happen because of the ties that here.
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: He's had a lot of stuff going on off the
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: court with the Lake with the Clippers lately. I don't know.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: I know, I do know that the league would love
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: to have Jeff Bezos, for instance, in their brand. They
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: would love to have Steve Balmer, and I've always been
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: enamored of Steve Balmer and being in the group of owners.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: It could be a consortium of people like that who
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: co invest rather than one singular investor. But we talked
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: about this. It is going to change not the football,
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: but it's going to change some of the interplay in
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: personal relationships day to day that John Schneider has with
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: ownership obviously the new owner, and even Mike McDonald, who
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: said that Jody Allen was more integral than maybe a
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: lot of people realized. Was after games every game meeting
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: with Mike McDonald to recap the game and ask what
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: McDonald called we're piercing questions. And it looks like, if
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: not by the season, getting soon after that, there'll be
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: a new person that'll be answered.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Tom Well. The name Elon Musk was floated around over
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: the weekend. Are we just in clickbait season or is
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: that something that it could be legitimate?
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: Well, anytime someone has that much money, he could buy
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: whatever he wants. Yeah, yeah, he buy spaceships, to go
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: to the herb Mars and back. So I'm just going
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: to reserve my comments to say that let's just hope
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: that's what that is right now. I don't know too
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: many fans that would be in side of the play,
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: but it does appear, at least in the short term,
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: it is worth saying checked it for the fans, for
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: the players, for the product on the field. Nothing will change.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: It's not like that they're going to totally change their
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: team colors or logos, or the stadium is going to
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: be remodeled overnight or now there is a question down
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: the road would a new owner want to modernize women field?
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: Not that of course it's old, but it's not young either.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: And what now twenty three twenty four years old? It
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: opened in early two thousands. That is a question. What
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: would the new ownership pour into the stadium, luxury suiting,
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: all the things that increase another's bottom line. You could
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: see that down the road, but it would be it'd
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: be the most colossal business decision mistake I think in
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: sports history for them to change the football operations. Yeah, team,
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: you ever had it? So I don't think you're going
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: to see a lot of day to day. Tangible difference
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: here as this goes down all.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Right last minute. Since you don't have anywhere to go,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: we might as well. I don't keep you from.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: But we got talk hill Thursday. I did.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Did you watch the hockey game yesterday?
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: Oh, they sure did. My daughter we're here in Boston
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: because we came to a rowing kickoff rowing event for
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: her seniors. The seniors were honored at the Coast Guard
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: Academy down the Freeway in Connecticut, and we were there
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: and it was great Saturday night, knowing this whole time
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: that we were going to be snowed down on Monday,
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: but we did. We watched it in a hotel room yesterday.
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: My daughters plays ice hockey for the Coast Guard and
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: the Coast Guard Hockey team, and it was such a
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: how First of all, it's just a tremendous athletic competition.
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: I mean, the best in the world playing at the best.
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: Connor HALLIBUOK. If we were in Canada, Connor Hellibook would
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: probably be already have been elected Prime Minister this morning.
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: He is an immortal in hockey lore for what he
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: did yesterday, an instant immortal. Yeah. To see players, Yeah,
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: they're millionaires, and yeah, they're scept for life. But to
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: see them just loving and excelling in the competition aspect
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: of it, and the best players in the world being
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: at their best, it was so cool. It was just
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: a neat experience. I hope everybody got up to see that,
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: because you don't see athletic competition at that high of
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: a skill level, at that competitive of a nature for
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: all that's at stake. I know, I have a lot
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: of buddies in Canada who are really it hurts Canada
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: for to lose game like that. And do you believe
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: though nineteen eighty the ice was the last time.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I know, it's amazing crazy. I mean, they've been close
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: many times.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: But the storm here, the hockey team was supposed to
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: fly back to New York City and they got diverted there.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: I think they flew back to Miami instead, and so
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: everybody's going to spread up from Miami instead of New York.
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: But yeah, that was a club that was a new
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: event yesterday.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I know fans always want their athletes
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: to go one hundred percent at all times, but it's
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: really just not possible for basketball players, baseball players. I mean,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: it's not even advisable to go all out at all times.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I mean you are usually told to chill out if
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: you do that, if you rudy Rudiger at all all
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: the time. But that event, it felt like they were
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: going one hundred percent the entire game, every single player
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: on the ice, it felt like, I mean it was
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: so fast and they were hidden. Well, yeah, it was
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: crazy to go.
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: And to go one hundred percent all out in hockey
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: full time is one very hard to do and very punishing,
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: like your body and those guys just to get through
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: a season would never do that. You could never do
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: that in this timely cut playoffs aren't even as good
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: as what yesterday was.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: It was fun, all right, Well, stay safe, keep the
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: family safe. I don't know, without all the fear, it
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: could turn into something romantic for you there, just to
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: be caught inside a snow globe with your wife, that'd
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: be great.
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: It's a lot better to be and my myself, I
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: can tell you that I'm good. I'm more than good.
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: Let's put it that way.
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll talk to you tomorrow one way.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: Or the other, Yes, sir, you probably will. Thank you.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: All right, there's our Seahawks Inside of Greg Bell, a
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• 36:41
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• 36:43
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• 36:47
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• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Coming up next? Uh, is there anything to Olympic momentum
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: for a sport we've been We discussed this every time
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: the Olympics come around, and maybe we're silly for even
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: suggesting it, but we'll discuss it next. Sports Radio ninety
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: three point three KJRFM. Hey, good Monday morning. It is
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: the eight o'clock hour. Chuck Pollin, Ashley Ryan with you,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: and we do have hockey on the brain, Krack and
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I'm going to return to ice Wednesday in Dallas against
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: the Stars, and of course it'll be the first time
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: they've played in three weeks because of the Winter Olympics,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: which concluded yesterday and in spectacular fashion. If you are
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: a hockey observer the US winning over Canada and overtime
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: to one in the gold medal game yesterday, and so
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: the US takes gold for the first time since the
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Miracle on ice. And joining us now on the radio
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: program is Crack and Goaltender Joey Decord is with us
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: here on the radio show.
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: Hi Joey, Hey, what's going on? How are you?
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I'm all right. How are you doing.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: I'm doing pretty good, pretty happy after watching that game yesterday?
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: What did you think of that? Huh?
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just so much fun to watch the
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: two best teams in the world, the best players in
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: the world, going at it. I mean, that's one of
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: the most amazing hockey games I watched. And yeah, I
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: mean just seeing it to go to overtime was what
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: everyone wanted and just a really special game to watch.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, you have an expert. I it felt to
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: the viewer and also to the broadcasters yesterday that this
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: is the fastest paced, most intense thing that they'd ever seen.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, could you from your perspective from your seat,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: how how intense did it feel to you?
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: Well?
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: I think so much that goes into it, right, I
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: think the four Nations happening.
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: Last year kind of helped with the build up the
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: whole tournament.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Like it was interesting because I don't think the team
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: necessarily played their absolute best throughout the whole tournament, but
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: they just kept building and finding a way, and I
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: think everyone was kind of hoping that that it was
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: going to be US and Canada when it came to
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: the end, and just built up over those two weeks, right,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: And I mean, yeah, it was just incredible hockey.
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: In that third period.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: There were like six different times I had no idea
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: how the pucks didn't go in the net, but somehow
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: it stayed out, and you know, it was just so
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: much fun to watch, Like I I wish, you know,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: you almost wish you could have that all the time.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: But it's like, that's why those moments are so special,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: is because they're so rare.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Right right, And And I'm curious from your perspective because
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you're sitting there and you're watching it and
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: you can't help, but thin man, I would love to
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: be in goal right now for the US team, And
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: yet Connor Halibec's playing so well. I would even think
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: that an American goaltender was like, yeah, that's the right
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: guy for the job right there. He's killing it out
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: there right now.
• 40:18
  Speaker 7: He was incredible.
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he was.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: He was the start of the game, he was the MVP.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: He stole that game, for sure, he was. He was
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: lights out. And yeah, I mean, of course I would
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: have loved to be there. But you know, he was
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: MVP of the league last year for a reason. You know,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: I think it's hard to argu saying he's not the
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: best goal in the world right now, you know, I
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: think yesterday proved that. And you know, he was absolutely
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: incredible and just huge save after a huge save, and yeah,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: I mean just just so fun to watch.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: What was the moment that stood out most to you
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: in terms of his game? Which was the save that
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: that struck you the most, because you know how difficult
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: that job is.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, of course it's it's gonna be number one.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Is gonna be the paddle save that that moment will
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: go down as as probably. I mean, you could say
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: that's the biggest save in in the history of United
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: States hockey.
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: You know, a third period one to one Thai game.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Guy's got an empty net right in front of the
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: slot and and he somehow finds a way to get
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: his paddle on it and deflect it wide.
• 41:22
  Speaker 7: I mean that save.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: I mean that that saved.
• 41:26
  Speaker 7: I don't think you can argue that as being the biggest.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: But there were so many other good saves he made
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: throughout the game that the the save on Celebrini in
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: the third period, he had he had two saves on
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Celebrity in the third period.
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: Actually, he had the.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: One on the breakaway, good read all over it, and
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: then he had the one off the rebound on the
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: power play with a minute left, two minutes left. That
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: was I don't I think there were so many different
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: things happening, and the pressure was so high it was
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: almost hard to understand to a non goalie person how
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: big of a save the one was on the rebound
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: on Celebriny. And and then yeah, you got to give
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: credit mcovoy too.
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: He had a.
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: Huge stave as well on the goal line.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: So it was just a total TV effort. But yeah,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: a bunch of great saves.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Well, look, I'm almost everybody listening right now is a
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: non goalie person, so we're gonna we're going to rely
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: on you to tell us just how difficult that that was.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: And I remember what was it a couple of years
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: ago when we actually chatted with you in person and
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: you told us, and I guess I wasn't entirely aware
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: of this, that a lot of goaltending is just being
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: in the right position. That's that's the key to goaltending.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: And sometimes there are shots that hit you that you
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: didn't even see coming, but because you're in the right position,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: you end up making the save. So I would ask
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: you that legendary, make a poster of it will be
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: remembered forever. Save with the stick. Was how much was
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: that skill and how much was that just being in
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: the right position? And then maybe a little bit.
• 43:00
  Speaker 7: Lucky probably like evenly all of those different things.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: You know, I think first Dave left that typically when
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: you make a save like that, you're probably out of
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: position a little bit right because you.
• 43:14
  Speaker 7: Having to make a desperation save.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: But if you're looking at the whole play, like Marner
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: comes down kind of comes downhill down the left side
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: from the goalies angle down the left side.
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: And he throws it to the back side.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: So that's a really hard save to make when that
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: player's skating kind of towards the left corner, and then
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: whips it to the back side like that's an incredibly.
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: Hard read and incredibly hard save.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: So he actually makes the initial save with his skate
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: and it's just sitting there and that's one of those
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: like foot seconds. Oh no, I got to do something,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: just try to get something there, and he reaches back
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: with his paddle and it just timed out perfectly and
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: he was able to deflect it to the corner.
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: You know, just just like you can't.
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: You don't think about that.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: That just happened. That's pure instinct and just reacting and
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: pure desperation. So you know, those don't happen very often,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: and when they do, you know, you love them and
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: you take them. And to have one in such a
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: pivotal moment like that, like you said, that's that's a poster.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: That's yeah, you know, that's going to be a save
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: and a picture that's going to be played in USA
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Hockey history for every.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you got two posters to choose from that, Joey
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: to Core. Do you take that one or do you
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: take Jack Hughes's game winner Broken teeth and bloody mouth,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: I mean dried blood plus fresh blood still coming out
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: of the mouth and then smiling as he knows he's
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: taken the US to gold. So you can have one
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: of the two posters of on your wall, Joey, which
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: one you take?
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean that one's so good, right, Like I
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: I think in the Olympics you get a lot of
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: non hockey people watching the game, and when you think
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: of hockey, you think missing teeth, right, So it's just
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: like so perfect, the huge smile, the flag draped over
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: the shoulders, the blood all over his mouth, the teeth missing,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: like it was just such a good hockey picture and
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: I think encapsulated our game so well.
• 45:21
  Speaker 7: But for me, I'm gonna go with the goalie because
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: I'm a goalie.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: So I'm a little bit by it.
• 45:26
  Speaker 7: But I mean, yeah, I think I think you.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Can't go wrong either way, right, Like the the photo
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: of Jack is incredible.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Joey de Courd is with us here on Chucking
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Buck in the morning talking about that, talking about the
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Kraken here in a moment. And then I mean, you
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: were born in Massachusetts, and then you played your college
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: hockey in Arizona at Arizona State, and then you're professional
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: hockey up here with us in Seattle. But don't if
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: I remember correctly. Don't you have some Canadian ties from
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: your pastor am I making that up?
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: No?
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: No, you're right.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: My dad's from my treol and I played two years
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: in Ottawa and with Ottawa's farm team. So technically, before
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: I played World Championships for the United States last year,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: I could have technically played for a team Canada.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: I wanted to, all right, So where did that leave
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: the Decord family and their rooting interest? Yesterday?
• 46:19
  Speaker 7: Then it was funny.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: I was my dad's actually in town in Seattle, and
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: we were watching the game together and he was like,
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: I just want both teams to win, Like I don't.
• 46:29
  Speaker 7: I don't know, like I wish both teams to win.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: So yeah, he's lived in America for thirty years now,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: so I think he feels I think he feels a
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: bit American as well.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: I would think at this point you wouldn't have to
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: tell your dad the lesson that not both teams can win. Yeah,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Joey the court our guests here on chucking back. All right,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: So Wednesday you get back to Krack and hockey in Dallas.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I mean it's felt like forever. I mean, we've watched
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl here and everything else. Since the Kraken
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: have played a regular season game, has it felt like
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: an eternity for you since you last put on the pads?
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean throughout the season we've been playing almost
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: every other day, so then to just go two and
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: a half plus weeks of just no games has felt
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: so odd. And then even like so the break was nice,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: like it was nice to kind of unplug a little bit, rest, relax, recharge,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: But then we've been back for a while now too,
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: so we haven't had this much practice since training camp,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: and it's just felt odd. But we're shopping at the bit,
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: We're excited. We can't wait to start playing games again.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: What could be the benefits because everybody got the same break,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: So how can the Kraken use this time off, this
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: unusual period of rest in the middle of the season
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: to charge up for the rest of the year.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Well, I think, like hockey is such a physical game
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: and so physically demand, and you know it is, it
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: is very mentally and mostly uh demanding and challenging as well,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: but just from a physical standpoint, when you're playing a
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: game every other day for as long as we have,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: like it's inevitable, guys, are banged up, guys have all
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: these different little things bothering them, and I think, you know,
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: just using these two weeks to try to get healthy,
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: get some rests, try to regain some energy, and just
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: you know, kind of gear up to this last final
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: push here to the playoffs. I think that's something we
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: can we can use for sure to our advantage.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: And man, I don't know if I've ever seen a
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: team that goes through such hot streaks, such cold streaks.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Have you ever experienced a season like this? I mean,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: it feels like you win nine and then you lose nine,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: and then you win nine.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: It has been an odd thing for the fan to watch.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Tell us why this team's going to be more consistent
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: the rest.
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: Of the way.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, honestly, we we just try to take
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: a one game at a time and and try to
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: you know, win the game that's in.
• 49:03
  Speaker 7: Front of us. It has been a.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Little crazy there with some of the streaks both ways.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: But I think it's it's speaks to the resilience of
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: our group that we can, you know, go through a
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: cold streak like to what we had early on in
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: the year and then bounce it right back with a
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: big winning streak and keep ourselves in playoffs contention. And no,
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: we're just gonna take a one game at a time
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: and we're gonna push as hard as we can to
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: make playoffs. That's been our goal from day one, and
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: that's where we want to be.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: How do you feel about where the team is right now?
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: And how do we How do you feel about where
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Joey Decord's game is right now?
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: I feel really good with the team.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: I think everyone would would say that, you know, I
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: think we are a team that has a specific game
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: plan and blueprint for how we need to play it
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: be successful. And the last twenty five or thirty games,
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: I think we've done that very well, and we've just
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: been building throughout the year.
• 49:59
  Speaker 7: I think we're in good spot right now.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: We've had a good break, we've had a good you know,
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: a little mini training camp here to regroup for the
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: second second half, I guess, but the playoff push, and
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: you know, I think we're excited, we're ready to go.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: And then for me personally, I think, you know, kind
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: of the same thing has been building my game throughout
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: the year and fine tuning things here and there, and
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: I feel good to go up to Already, I feel excited,
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: you know, I think I think myself and the whole
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: team we're locked in for this push.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: What do you think the Olympics will do for the
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: league the rest of the way. What kind of boost
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: do you anticipate receiving from people being hockey mad right
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: now in America and in Canada.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Well, I think hopefully just so many more people have
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: got exposed to such an awesome game, right Like, if
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: you've seen a high level hockey game like the NHL,
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: like the Olympics, like you know how fun it is
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: to watch, you know how incredible the sport is. I
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: think it's the most fun sport to.
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: Watch live.
• 51:01
  Speaker 7: Out there. And I mean again I'm maybe I'm little
• 51:04
  Speaker 7: bit biased, but that's just my opinion.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I hope that people, just you know, people
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: that maybe aren't as big into it or having gotten
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: into it, take the time to come watch us and
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: watch the NHL and see how many incredible players there are.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean this time of year, like the
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: end of the year, the playoff push and then into playoffs,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: is the.
• 51:24
  Speaker 7: Best time to watch hockey.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: So hopefully, yeah, the snowball just keeps keeps building and.
• 51:31
  Speaker 7: Hockey just keeps growing.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And speaking of the growth, I mean, you
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: played college hockey at Arizona State. For goodness sake, I
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: lived in Arizona and it was not even a thing,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: and then you you get there and you actually were
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: part of a pretty quick rebuilding building process there. I mean,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Austin Matthews is from Arizona. I mean, if hockey can
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: think its teeth into the desert in Arizona and turn
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: into a hotbed, I mean, what do you think about
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: a game like this, an event like this, how many
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: areas of the country that hockey might just think its
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: teeth into.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean I find myself super fortunate that I
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: was able to go to ASU and play there. It
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: was such an incredible experience. But yeah, I mean before
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: I even got like the phone call initially from from
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Coach Powers out at ASU, like that wasn't even really
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: on my radar because just growing up in Boston and Massachusetts, like,
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: college hockey has such a big presence in New England
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: in the Northeast that you know, I had never even
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: really thought about it, And now it just seems like,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: you know, you got like you said, you got kids
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: from Arizona, you got kids from Florida, you get kids
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: from California. Like non traditional hockey markets are.
• 52:47
  Speaker 7: Seeing kids make it to the highest level, and.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: I think you're just going to keep seeing that continue
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: to grow. Like USA hockey is doing a really good
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: job of promoting the game and trying to get as
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: many kids to play as possible. And it's, in my opinion,
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: the best sport in the world.
• 53:03
  Speaker 7: So you know, we want to.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: See as many kids as we can, uh, you know
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: out there trying hockey.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Joey decorda our guests, and I'll let you go
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: here in a little bit. I do want to ask
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: you two other things. Number One, the Kachuck brothers made
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: it pretty clear that there is a hatred between US
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: and Canada, and I'm curious if that is something that
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: will well affect a locker room for goodness sake, or
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: if he is he just saying that from an international
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: competition standpoint.
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: I think that yes, yes, and no.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: I mean he is right, like when when you're on
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: the ice and you're playing for USA, like you're playing
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: for the flag, you're playing for the country, and.
• 53:49
  Speaker 7: When you're playing.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Against other nations, especially Canada as them, you know, being.
• 53:54
  Speaker 7: You know, the other other.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Best country in the world, because now we're the best, uh,
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: you know, like that's that's the biggest game out there.
• 54:03
  Speaker 7: And I think, you know, it's it's more about the.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: The pride that that we have for playing for our
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: country than the hatred for others, I guess, And especially
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: when you get back in the locker room, like there's
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: so much respect between players. Like there's guys that were
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: playing on USA and Canada that has to go back
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: to the same locker room now for their NHL club.
• 54:25
  Speaker 7: And.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: I think there's just so much respect like for the
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: top players. Won't it won't be an issue moving forward
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: in in locker rooms, right, But when you're playing for
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: your country, it's such an incredible opportunity. You're just doing
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: whatever you can to help your country win, all.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: Right, So we won't have an anchorman you Beneers Lynn
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Grin sort of fight in the in the locker room
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: with all the Canadians.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: Right, No, no, but there was a friendly trip and
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: going on after that.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Did you win any bets?
• 54:58
  Speaker 7: Uh No, No, we didn't know anything like that.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, letting the guys know that the US was the
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: best in the world.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: Use all right, Well, I'm going to close with this.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, think about yourself in goal. It goes to overtime,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: it's three on three hockey and the other team has McDavid,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: mccarr and McKinnon all on the ice at the exact
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: same time coming at you. How are you feeling in
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: that moment, Joey, How was hallibuk hell about thinking in
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: that moment?
• 55:25
  Speaker 7: Oh?
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: I think you're just excited, right, It's like that's the
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: that's the game, that's the moment that you grew up
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: wanting to play in. And I think you're just saying, hey,
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: like it's grateful to be here, get this opportunity. I'm
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: going to do everything I can to.
• 55:39
  Speaker 7: Help my team win. And you know, it's just leave
• 55:44
  Speaker 7: it all out on the ice.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: That's all it is, right, Just leave it all out there,
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: battle as hard as you can and let the chips
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: fall with it.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: May Joey, have a great rest of the season, and
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: hopefully we'll talk to you again really soon. Thank you
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: so much for sharing a little time with us today.
• 56:01
  Speaker 7: Sounds good.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: All right, Joey to court joining us right here on
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: Chuck and Buck in the morning so Krack can get
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: back to action. Wednesday, they will be in Dallas taking
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: on the Stars. A lot to discuss there with Joey Decord,
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: the momentum of an Olympic gold medal for the US team.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, they are grossly outnumbered, Ashley. There aren't about
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: five Americans in that crack and locker room and they
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: are about fifteen Canadians in that locker room. Yeah, it is.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: It would be interesting. I would have loved to have
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: I kind of wish or that they would have had
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: like a watch party. I know it was at five am,
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: but like, yeah, I don't know, just and then let
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: us watch them watch it.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let us watch you watch the w Yeah, because.
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: I want to hear them talk the trash and just
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: have fun and also see their reactions because obviously they
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: do this for a living versus US who are like
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: everything in hockey amazes me, you know, but with them,
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: it's like, oh, that could have done that or you know,
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: the trash talking would be so different.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: I would love to see it.
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't think they're gonna be doing too much
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: celebrating because they are grossly outnumbered.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's just just even like the trash talking
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: on both sides. I think it would have.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Been fun, be funny to seek all right, Maddie, let's go,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: let's talk some trash. Come on, all the Americans, let's go.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: See what the problem is. The Canadians are too nice,
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: so you have to think when it comes to hockey.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you mess with their hockey, they're Tim Horton's or
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: their maple syrup, and they're gonna beat the hell Up's true.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: You're gonna knock your teeth out of your mouth.
• 57:34
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Coming up next, What I learned from Spring Training, Part two,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ r f M.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: Yesterday was yesterday was all right in the afternoon.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: In the afternoon, went for a nice walk, yah maam,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: not really an afternoon kind of Oh yeah, go or
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: I kind of want to get it done the morning.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: Good morning to you all. It is Chuck Palla. Is
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: Ashley Ryan with you here on this Monday, No Bucky
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Jacobson And I know what you're thinking. It's about time. Yeah,
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: I think in Thank goodness, he stayed down there with
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: his family in Arizona. And believe me, everybody in Arizona
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: was like, don't go job, don't leave him.
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: Don't leave this guy here.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of all the people that could have come and stayed.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: So anyway, he's down there with the family, soaking it
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: up a little bit longer, burn into a crisp No
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: doubt he'll just be one giant ginger brickheat.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: Probably a tomato, really like a fire roasted tomato.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: That actually makes a lot of sense. But we did
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: provide spring training coverage last week. We love doing it,
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: happy to provide it. I think we came up with
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: some pretty good interviews for you. As I put in
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: a tweet, I think we let you hear from the
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: people you want to hear and had him talk about
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: what you want to have talk about out talked about,
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: and so we wrapped it up on fry. But certainly
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: there's a little bit of lingering here. I'm still thinking
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: about baseball. I am in baseball mode right now, as
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: we should be after last week's shows, and we're going
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: to replay some justin Hollander for you later on in
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: the program. I thought it was one of the most
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: informative interviews the general manager has ever provided us. Great
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: stuff from him, so we're going to replace some of
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: that for you in the nine o'clock hour today. But
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: let me piece together some of the things I've learned.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: We've already talked about the second base position. Let's talk
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: about this corner outfield, this right field position, and this
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: DH position. And you might be thinking to yourself, well,
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: we don't have like one locked in guy. It doesn't
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: feel like well, you're right, and that is by design.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: And they are very happy with that. They don't mind
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: that whatsoever, at least to start the year. I mean,
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: if you're sitting there thinking, man, we've got a lot
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: of just like platoon players, yep, yes you do, and yeah,
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: and they like that.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: I don't know why.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: People get so hung up on this platoon thing. It's
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: been around forever. I mean, Casey Stengel was doing it
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: back in the fifties, for goodness sake. I think it
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: was even done before that. I don't know why people
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: are so hung up on not liking platoons. I mean,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: you know who platoons the most in the entire sport,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: The Dodgers. Yeah, just because your platoon doesn't mean you
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: think you suck, No, just the opposite. They feel like
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: it gives them depth. It feels like they're taking advantage
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: of the strengths of a certain cluster. I mean, I'm
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: sure I know that they like to have a superstar
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: at every position, or an All Star two superstar at
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: every position, but there aren't a lot of those guys
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: to go around, and so what they believe they've pieced together.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: And look, they've had some platoons blow up in their face.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: They just haven't worked in the past, and I think
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: that's part of the grudge that some fans hold against
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: them for this philosophy. But it can work. It does work,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: and if it didn't work, then teams wouldn't use it
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: as frequently as they do. So I think to start
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: the year, I don't think there's any thought that Victor
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: Roblaze is an everyday player. I mean, it was told
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: to me, no, no, no, no, no, He's he's a
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: platoon guy.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: Huh.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: I think Dom canzone. That's a platoon guy with limited
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: defensive abilities, and I don't know if those are ever
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: going to come around. He can get better, but I
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: think that he's sort of feeling I'm going to be
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: the DH against Rightyes, ref Snyder might be the DH
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: against lefties, even though he can play a little bit
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: of a little bit of outfield. And then Luke Rayley,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: who's a bit of a wildcard heading into this season.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: He was very good, don't forget in twenty twenty four,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: and his season just did not come together.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: Last year.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: He wasn't good, then he got hurt, and then he
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: tried to come back and he still wasn't good. I mean,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: there's no getting around it. We think the world of
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Luke Rayley. Such a nice man well, and he plays
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: so hard, and he plays so hard and bring a
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: lot of different intangibles. He just wasn't good last year,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: but doesn't mean that he can't bounce back this year.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: That happened to Polanka.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: He looks good, he's in good condition, good shape, He's
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: a big guy with speed, and he does a lot
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: of little things that help you win. But he's got
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: to obviously put the ball in play. So their plan
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: right now is to I think have a platoon and
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: right and I think their plan is to have a
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: platoon in at DH and I think a Rose Arena
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: plays every day. Had left even though he's probably the
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: worst defensive player of the entire group. I think the
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: idea is still to put him in left, and then
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: obviously Julio is the you know, the standard out there
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: in center. That's that's every day in the middle of
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: your order, Julio Rodriguez. But I will say this another
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: thing that came up that I learned while I was there,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: and we've talked about it Anders and I during our
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Stove podcast in the off season. Here's another thing. Baseball
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: season is long. It's a hundred in sixty two games.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: And if you haven't figured out by now, I mean,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: you're gonna go through lulls, You're gonna go through hot streaks,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: you're gonna go through cold streaks. And that's why they
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: play one hundred and sixty two because after one hundred
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: and sixty two game grind, where do you stand amongst
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: everybody else? And they're one hundred and sixty two game grind.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: And so I think, I feel this is the most
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: solid playoff roster. I don't think there's a hole on
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: this roster, okay, that they've ever had in my eleven
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: years covering this team. I think this is their most
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: complete roster that they've had to start a season. There
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: felt to me like there were no loose ends that
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: needed tied up. I mean the things that they were
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: after resigning Naylor, getting Donovan, getting Forrair, those were all
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: three top priorities. They got them all done. Then they
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: added ref Snyder. So I think that they feel like
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: it was the most relaxed. I mean, they think they
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: have a really good team, so that helps relax you.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: But it was the most relaxed the camp has ever been.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, they were just in a good place. Depoto
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: was floating, Hollander was floating. The entire staff just feels
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: like we're in a great place. We love our team.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: We felt like we had a really good offseason, and
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: we feel like we are going to win the World
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: Series this year. I mean that's just the attitude. But
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: they did a couple of things last year because we
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: did not feel that way at the beginning of last year.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: We felt like that was a terrible offseason. What did
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: you add to this team? The only thing you really
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: did have significance is brought back Hori Polanco who was
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: bad the year before, and so we did not feel
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: all that great, felt like they were a playoff contender
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season. When we went down
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: for spring training last year, but the roster did not
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: feel complete. A lot of the questions are what are
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: you going to do here? And what are you going
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: to do here? And we didn't have any of those
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: questions this year. And what did they do during the
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: regular season. During the regular season, they hung around, They
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: stayed in playoff contentions, they stayed in divisional contention, and
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: then at the trading deadline they were the most aggressive
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: team arguably in the entire sport. And they added Josh
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Naylor and they added Gino Suarez, which have been things
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: they've been a little reluctant to do, getting rental players
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: and giving up prospects, and they love all their prospects.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: It's just something that they don't really see. They don't
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: like that math equation, renting a guy for two months
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: and giving up on six years of control of Tyler Locklear.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: That's just something that they haven't really practiced a lot. Well,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: they did it this year and it worked like a
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: charm paid off. Not only did you start playing better
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: immediately and then had another weird slump, I don't know
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: how that happens to this team, but not only did
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: you start playing better immediately, you eventually started, you know,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: playing well enough that you win the division, kind of
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: pulled away in the division. We weren't sweating it. On
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: the last week of the regular season, we knew we're
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: going to get into the playoffs. Got to buy for
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: goodness sake out of the entire thing. And guess what,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: I think Jerry and Justin loved that. I think they
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: loved the idea of we don't have to have our
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: playoff roster on April first. You know, so we showed
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: you last year. We kind of liked that rental thing
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: now because we got Josh Naylor and Gino Swarz when
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: it mattered the most, and we only had to pay
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: him a fraction of their salary. And then we used
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: that time with them to figure out which one we
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: wanted to keep, maybe even both of them, and they
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: ended up keeping one of them. And part of the
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: equation is maybe he falls in love with the city,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: which he did Josh Naylor. So they haven't forgotten what
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: they can do in season, especially if you keep the
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: payroll in check. And they did not cap out. You know,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: they said that we were going to start this season
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: with the payroll we ended last season with we're under that.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: So they got a little bit of financial flexibility if
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: John and the owners drive a hard line on how
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: much they're willing to spend, And that little flexibility means
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: that when the time is right and after you've had
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: two to three months to assess the roster that you
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: put together, that you can go be aggressive again. Fill
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: in whatever holes are created through injury or poor performance,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: and let's go as long as we have our best
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: team at the end of the year. That's what they
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: can't wait to achieve for twenty twenty six. And last thing, Ashley,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: to be able to start in so much better a
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: position than what you started a year ago and to
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: have that in your pocket means this team could look
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: considerably better in the second half of the year. And
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: I think they already look pretty damn special right now.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: And I completely agree.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think we have higher expectations for this team,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: but I think that that's fitting. I think we should
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: because of where they're at right now, and they're off season,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: the Mariners getting the three players they wanted right for
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: rare and I'm not refsider Donovan, Yeah, and then being
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: able to resign Naylor, and then you bring in ref
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: Snyder as a as a bonus, as another utility player
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: to help out where you can.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: And you've got the young guys who you have a
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: lot of promise with and a lot of faith in.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: And you know, right at the end of the season
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: when Jerry spoken talked about that, you know, our off
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: season isn't going to be busy. We're gonna have a
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: couple of things we want to focus on. But this
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: is kind of our formula to go to the trade
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: deadline and make our moves.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: Then.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and thank goodness that case.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, how many we've had I think too highly
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: frustrating trade dead Yeah, because it felt like I was like, well,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: we make a little bit of an edition, but we
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: also made a subtraction. Yeah, Like that's infuriating, that's hair point.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: I think they're done doing that nonsense because I think
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: it is nonsense what they tried to pull those two years. Yeah,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: I think they feel a lot better when three of
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: the last five years they've really gone for it at
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: the trading deadline. Even two years ago when you missed
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, it's still felt good and you still have
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: Randy Rose Arena because of that.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, And that's the thing is I was just
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: glad that this last year worked out so well because
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: I think they already liked that formula and so to
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: have it boost their confidence in going that route, you
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: know that they're like, Okay, yeah, this is us, this
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: is the way we need to do this, this is
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: the way we need to operate. And I think it's
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: even more exciting because you know, if this team goes
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: into the season as strong as they look right now,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: or as strong on paper as you assume they're going
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: to be, and you get to that trade deadline, you're
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: real pumped as that trade deadline approaches.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: I think it would be really good. I don't think
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: they run away and hide and win a division by
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: twelve to fifteen games. I don't think it's gonna be
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: like that. But I do believe we're not going to
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: have those ebbs and flows. We're not going to have
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: that atrocious May that you need to go thirty eight
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: and oh in July in order to save the season.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: It's not going to be that type of the year. Yeah,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a much more consistent product. I think
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: we're going to win a lot more than we lose,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: and not have that trade off, those trade offs from
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: week to week. We lost six of seven, but you
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: know we've made up for it by winning seven of nine.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be that type of
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: the year. I think it's going to be a lot
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: more consistent, and I think it's gonna be a lot
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: more comfortable of a season. And I do believe in
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: the end we're gonna win the division by a comfortable margin.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: Okay, let's do it.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right? Coming up next on the program, did
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: Canada end up with sour Great Sports Radio ninety three
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: point three kJ R f M. Good Monday morning to
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: you all. Chuck and Ashley with you here today. No,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: Bucky Jacobson's taking a few days off to fry in
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: the Arizona Sun for a little while longer fry going
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: to one of them like Water Slide Hotels, is going
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: to go to Great Wolf.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: Yeahs, that went to the Great Wolf near here, And
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: the mom sent me a text to saying I am
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: deeply regretting this choice while I watched the employees clean
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: vomit out of the pool.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know if I trust public pools.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: Well not if I ever did a lot of kids.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of junk.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's sweets and food, and then they go
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: down zippy slides and there's things that go in the
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: water that no.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: I would imagine. There's like one point one turds in
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: the water per day, Yes, at a place like that,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: and that's just reported, right, Yeah, that's just.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: Because someone saw it floating when they came up.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of like publicly used water holes.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: I don't mind a public pool in like where it's
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: adults and kids and things like that. I worked at
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: quite a few.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: I just don't love the indoor water park type yeah situation.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, Well they're gonna they're just gonna live
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: it up.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah great, kids get worn out, they run around.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: And going down the turd slide.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, who want that.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: We're not only not going to be afraid of it,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: We're going to embrace that part of it.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, kids, open your mouth, let's take in some water.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: They ever seen the South Park episode where the pool
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: is just made of people?
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: No, that's not far off.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: All right? Well, last week Bucket Hour in Arizona together
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: delivering for you spring training coverage really proud of our coverage.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: We had a great week down there. I think we
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: delivered some good shows to you here in Seattle. You
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: got you going, got your juices going for the upcoming
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: baseball season. But there were a few that stood out,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: a few of our conversations, few of the many conversations
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: that we had last week. And I thought Friday's conversation
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: with Justin Hollander was one that truly stood out for
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: those seeking information right now. I mean we got it
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: right from the horse's mouth on Friday at seven o'clock,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: and so I thought we replay that conversation for you,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: or at least the majority of it here today because
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: there's some valuable information to be gleaned. He was quite candid,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: he was quite forthright, and really enjoyed our time with
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: the general manager. And we'll pick up the interview where
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: I asked him about number one prospect, Colt Emerson and
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: whether or not he's going to afford Emerson the opportunity
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: to make this team coming out of spring training.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 10: Absolutely.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 10: I don't I don't think there's any reason to put
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 10: limits on players, especially players is talented. His cult is
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 10: I think he's got the emotional maturity to play in
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 10: the big leagues. He probably had the emotional maturity to
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 10: play in the big leagues like the day he graduated
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 10: high school. He's just wired differently than most players. His
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 10: level of competitiveness, the way he handles failure, the way
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 10: he handles success, all lead us to believe that when
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 10: he's physically ready ready from a skills standpoint, that we're
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 10: not concerned about his transition to the big leagues. I
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 10: don't know if he'll be we'll deem him to be
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 10: physically ready and sort of ready to go attack the
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 10: big leagues from day one, but we're gonna give him
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 10: a chance.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 11: What would he I mean, would that typically be at
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 11: second base to third base? I mean JP, I would
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 11: imagine his kind of sitting there. Shore got his flag
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 11: in the ground as of now, so it would be
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 11: then then that's the reason where for the versatility of
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 11: Brendan Donovan if you were needing to put him at second.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 5: Or third, correct?
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 10: I think that Colt will see reps at second, short,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 10: and third this spring. I think if he were to
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 10: break with the club, most likely his reps would would
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 10: primarily be at third base.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, So how then does Donovan approach spring. Is he
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: just going to get third base reps right now?
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 10: I think you'll see a lot of third base, You'll
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 10: see some second base, and you'll see some outfield. I
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 10: think it's important for us to maximize his value and
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 10: make sure that he continues to stay in touch with
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 10: all the positions that he's played in the past. I
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 10: do think you're going to see more reps from third
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 10: base from him. You know, in Saint Louis they had
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 10: Nolan Aronto, you know, a platinum glover. It's not really
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 10: necessary for him to go get a ton of reps
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 10: there for us. He's going to play a lot of third,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 10: but you'll see him take some reps at second on
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 10: a day. You'll see him playing the outfield a little
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 10: later in the spring as well.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: Justin Hollander is with us hereal on Chuck and back.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: I want to stay on Donovan here. I mean, I've
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: made this comparison before, but I mean I've like fantasy football.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: I will sit there and like, why isn't this guy
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: responding to my trade? Like it's been forty eight hours?
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 5: Just yes or no?
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: So I get worked up over fantasy football when you're
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: doing it for real, and you're sitting there waiting for
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: the Saint Louis Cardinals to get you back. I mean,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: you made it very clear that you want Donovan, You've
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: circled Donovan, You're in on Donovan. The Cardinals are trying
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: to trade Donovan, and yet it stretched out for a
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: long period of time. How excruciating is it when the
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: bullets are real?
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 10: I think you ride the highs and the lows. Some
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 10: days you feel like, oh, we're making progress. Some days
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 10: you feel like, why aren't we getting a call back?
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 10: You know, my kids started asking me every day, did
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 10: we get Donovan today?
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 7: No?
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 10: Guys doing to here?
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: I gonna use your kid as an insider. That's what
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: I need to do. I should tap into. You know,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: it'd probably be bought with some video games and what have.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 10: You head to the third grade and the fifth grade
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 10: in Sherlin. If the Evergreen School they got all the dope, No,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 10: it's uh. You know, I think you try and focus
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 10: on what you can control, and all we can control
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 10: is you know, making sure that they're aware of our
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 10: interest and what we're willing to do and all we
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 10: aren't willing to do. And you know it's not our decision.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 10: They had every right to take as long as they
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 10: wanted to take to sort of root out and make
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 10: sure they were digging in on every lead. They had
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 10: to make the best possible deal they could for them.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 10: You know, sometimes that takes less time, Sometimes it takes
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 10: more time. Sometimes a team just decides to hold the player.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 10: It's up to them how they want to handle that.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 10: Thrilled that it resulted in a deal. At the end
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 10: of the day, we didn't need to have a trade
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 10: consummated in December. We're don't play games in December, right,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 10: so getting it done the week before spring training was
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 10: perfectly good for us.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 11: Yeah, what is it? I mean, he seems like a
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 11: gritty ballplayer just from the little bit we've got to
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 11: know him. What was the main thing that you were
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 11: wanting names so badly for.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 10: I think the combination of the bats of ball, the
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 10: sort of the lead off top of the lineup type skills,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 10: and the versatility you reference cold to a second ago. Obviously,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 10: we have Cole Young, we have Michael Royo. We have
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 10: a lot of young position players, particularly infielders, that are
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 10: coming through our system over the next year. Making sure
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 10: that we have a team that has a foundation good
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 10: enough to incorporate those guys so that you're not counting
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 10: on all of them to be good the moment they
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 10: walk into the big leagues. And Donovan having the ability
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 10: to float from position to position to position gives those
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 10: guys room to breathe and let us figure things and
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 10: figure things out, will not sort of jeopardizing the current
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 10: quality of our big league team. So that's a rare combination.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 10: You don't often have players with his kind of sort
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 10: of batter's box skill set also be versatile enough to
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 10: play three or four spots capably to better than capably.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: Justin Hollander is whether it's general manager of the Seattle Mariners.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: What an offseason that they had. They got Brenda donoh
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: and they got Jose Ferrer, who will ask him about
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: here in a moment, But I'll stay on a few
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: of the names before we get off of it. You
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: brought up a royal who's hitting eighth in the lineup today.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: We haven't discussed him much this week, but a very
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: interesting prospect. You mentioned Cole Young, Ryan Bliss Here, rebosses here,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: colet Emerson we've already discussed. I mean, you're gonna have
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: one starting second basement, maybe two at the max if
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: you end up doing some sort of platoon there. I
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: have no idea. So is this is just a as
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: pure a camp battle as you can have for the
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: second base position, Meaning you may not have in your
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: head somebody that you've already said is the front runner.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: Is just whoever plays the best is gonna be starting
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: second basement on opening day.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 10: That's probably a little bit of a stretch. I would say.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 10: As we walk in the door today, Cole Young's the favorite.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 10: I love how Cole's off season one. If you've seen
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 10: him walking around, he looks fantastic right now.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 5: He was chiseled.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 10: He really put the time in the work in.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: You know, Cole was got rid of that silly mustache.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 10: The mustache is hard for anybody to pull off. I
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 10: don't want to judge Cole's. My mind would be really
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 10: bad too. No, it's a Cole was the youngest or
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 10: second youngest regular in the PCL last year, and then
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 10: we brought in the big leagues and he was one
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 10: of the five youngest players in the big leagues last year,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 10: and for a good five six week stretch he was
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 10: awesome last year. He was really good and then he
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 10: ran out of gas, and that happens to young players
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 10: sometimes the big league environment is a tough one to
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 10: susane energy. And it was pretty clear as we got
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 10: in September that Cole was just dragging a little bit,
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 10: and I think he took a lot of steps this
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 10: offseason to make sure that doesn't happen again. He's going
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 10: to be a really good player. I would say he's
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 10: going to get the first crack at, you know, the
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 10: starting second basement. That doesn't mean he's gonna play every day,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 10: and it doesn't mean it's his forever. And I think
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 10: he approached the winner like he's got to earn it.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 10: I think Michael probably needs some more time still. Leo
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 10: is a perfect player as sort of a move around
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 10: the field, you know, utility player in the big leagues.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 10: He can do a lot of things well. It takes
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 10: great at bats and can play all the infield spots
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 10: and I think you'll see him stand in the outfield
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 10: a little bit this spring too. So as a player
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 10: who helps the team function, Leo is is probably as
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 10: you know, a good a fit as you can have
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 10: on the roster to help augment what we have with
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 10: the rest of the major league.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 11: Team, justin Hollander with us, I mean talking about the outfield.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 11: I mean, obviously Julio is going to be playing, and
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 11: you're gonna have a Rosena in there pretty much every day.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 11: When you have can Zone robust coming back from the injury,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 11: and then now you've added Ref Schneider into the whole mix,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 11: how are you planning on Is that going to be
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 11: a platoon possibly, and then the others may be dagent.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that's right. I think that we have
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  Speaker 10: the advantage of, like we talked about earlier, having a
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 10: lot of versatile players and having a lot of players
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 10: who hit same side pitching pretty well, maybe less the
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 10: case in right field and DH spot, and that's okay.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 10: You can platoon in a couple spots and make it
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 10: sort of a functional roster for Dan to walk work through.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 10: And I think that's what we'd anticipate, at least to start,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 10: if everybody's the best version of themselves. I think Raley
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 10: and can Zone right playing right field and dhing against
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 10: right handed pitching is probably how we'll go at least
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 10: to start. Victor and ref Snyder you know, playing right
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 10: field in dhing and left handed pitching, with the idea
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 10: that if one player is playing particularly well, they'll probably
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 10: get a little more reps. We're not gonna lock it
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 10: in and you know, just say, no matter what happen, happens,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 10: it's one hundred and five games for this player and
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 10: sixty games for that player. That's not how baseball season works.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 10: But he is a you know, as a standard, a foundation.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 10: How you want to set your lineup is provide as
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 10: many platoon advantages as you can over time. You know,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 10: calving a switch hitter and killing it from both sides
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 10: of the plate helps a ton.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 10: We we have players that have specialties like Rob Rafsnyder
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 10: killing left handed pitching, you know, can zone right handed pitching.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 10: That gives us a big advantage every night, and we've
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 10: plan to take full advantage of it.
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  Speaker 7: Well.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: Speaking of the DH position and a lot of Mariner fans,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: are you know who's going to be the DH? Who's
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: going to be the DH? And it you know, based
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: off of your conversation, I would imagine that's going to
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: be a rotating type of thing, at least theoretically to
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: start the season. But you've got this prospect another guy.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: We haven't talked about a lot this week, but every
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: day he's so nice. He walks in and out the
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: doorway and he waves to us every day, and Bucky
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: and he exchanged Spanish, you know, pleasantries. And he's about
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: six foot nine to eighty nine, looks like Carl Malone.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: So is Las Montes in this DH picture at some
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: point this year or will he be starting power forward
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: for you before the end of the year. Tell us
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: about Monte.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 10: One of the Sonics coming back now. I think Laz
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 10: could push his way into the mix at the end
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 10: of the season. I don't anticipate that where Laz is
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 10: at in his development that he'd be a possibility to
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 10: break camp early in the season. But he's a really
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 10: unique talent. Obviously, power that you know is at the
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 10: upprow echelon of what big league players have, and he's
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 10: twenty years old. We anticipate a really long, bright future
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 10: for Laz as a corner outfielder, mixing in at the
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 10: h as well. He's got some some hurdles to climb
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 10: over still in the minor leagues, but it's a really
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 10: unique talent. I think he's won the MVP at every
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 10: full season league he's ever played in, which is pretty unique. Wow,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 10: you know that, and you know what he does. He
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 10: does really well and he keeps getting better at the
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 10: areas where maybe he has some growth ahead of him.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 10: So really excited to see how this camp goes. I
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 10: think Las will play a lot in this and then
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 10: you know, he'll start in the minor leagues and we'll
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 10: see where we go.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 4: We.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 10: Like I said when we started with Cole, I just
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 10: don't think it's a good idea to put limits on players.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 10: I think you send them the wrong message, and I
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 10: think you send the organization the wrong message if you
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 10: decide in February what Laz is ceiling or what cold
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 10: ceiling is for that year. I don't know that anybody's
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 10: that good that they can make those decisions and do
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 10: it smartly.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: I love that because it's a little bit of change
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: where it used to be. No, you're gonna prove it, son,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: but I love that that's where we are in the
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: modern day, and I love that that's where you and
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: your staff are.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 11: Just so you know where Laz's head is at. Yeah,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 11: we just had a conversation.
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  Speaker 5: I said, what do you.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 11: Think this year of forty forty Dingers, and he's like,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 11: I'm fifty fifty. I said, all right, thirty in the
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 11: minor league's twenty in the big leagues. I'll sign up
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 11: for that, he said. He nodded, and basically he agreed
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 11: that that'd be okay.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 10: So I'm confident that if he hits fifty, they won't
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 10: all be in the minor leagues.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 11: Right, Yeah, go ahead and do that. I'm with you
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  Speaker 11: on that one hundred percent. I mean, moving to some
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 11: degree towards pitching a little bit. The idea of adding
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 11: the Farrer to the bullpen, I think is a huge one.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 11: The dude has kind of a locomotive of a fastball.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 11: It looks like adding him to the mix with Gabe
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 11: Spider to where he's not the only guy that has
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 11: to get loose every time a tough left he comes
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 11: up to the dish. What was your feelings on him?
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 10: Really important for us? One just I think most good
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 10: teams have a second lefty, and we weren't just looking
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 10: to add any second lefty.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 5: We were looking to add.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 10: Impact for us, particularly important five right handed starters. You
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 10: get a lot of lineups that are stacked with lefties.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 10: The idea that Gabe has to get up in the
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 10: fifth and then the sixth and then the seventh every
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 10: night whenever there's a possibility of a leverage moment coming.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 10: That's really hard on him. He was unbelievable last year.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 10: We want to make sure we're doing the right thing
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 10: for the team, and having sort of two real impact
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 10: left handed arms and the bullpen every night will be
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 10: great for our pitching group to work through. Obviously, Farrer
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 10: has very unique qualities. It's, you know, a sinker that
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 10: is sort of unlike any other It's a sinker at
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 10: ninety ninety nine. We really really like to change up
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 10: in the slider as well. I think you'll see more
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 10: of that as he gets through his outings with us
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 10: and mixing it in, maybe helping miss a few more bats.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 10: But we really think he's got a chance to be
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 10: one of the elite left handed relievers in baseball, and
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 10: giving us two of those guys is a really big
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 10: advantage as we get into you know, October baseball hopefully.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: And I'll stay on pitching, but just a little aside
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: from the Ferrera, I mean, you draft a Harry Ford,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: you develop a Harry Ford. He did everything you wanted
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: him to do at the minor league level, and yet
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: you've got cal Rawly blocking him from the future. So
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: even though I always viewed him as a tradeable piece,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: a logical tradeable piece, it's gotta be tough to give
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: up a guy that you know you sort of nurtured
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: through this process.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 10: You're always emotionally invested in the guys that you draft
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 10: and develop. We wouldn't have traded Harry just to trade Harry.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 10: That doesn't make any sense. There's a place on a
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 10: big league club for a good second catcher. I think
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 10: that the path is a little more narrow for us
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 10: just because cow is gonna catch one hundred and twenty
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 10: games a year. It's not a true fifty to fifty
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 10: time share. But Harry's a good enough player. We believed
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 10: in Harry. We thought he could help our big league team.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 10: We just believed the impact of Ferrera was gonna be
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 10: greater for us. So willing to trade and trading no
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 10: matter what, are two different things. We were willing to
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 10: make a trade to help our team get better. We
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 10: weren't going to trade just to trade.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: Are Hollander, Excuse me, hollander, Are we're talking to Hollander,
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: Are Anderson and Sloan like viable moves? Obviously we want
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: five starting pitchers to stay healthy all season long, but
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering about the starting pitching death. I would assume
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: Hancocks the next guy, the sixth man off the bench,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: But are Anderson and Slom like seventh and eighth men.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: Based on the buzz that I'm hearing around.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 10: Here, that's a little quick. Obviously, Kate's never thrown a
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 10: pitch in a professional game. He's just thrown out here
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 10: and LIVEVP the other day for the first time. Could
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 10: they be at the end of the season again, I'll
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 10: stick with my no limits policy. Right sure, they could
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 10: be right now. They're not going to be on the
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 10: depth chart to start the season. Where we start and
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 10: where we end are it's usually two different places. They're
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 10: certainly talented enough to be. What we saw from both
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 10: those guys and their live vps was special, really unique.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 10: Their composure, their stuff, the strike throwing, the diversity of
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 10: the repertoires. Those guys are going to be really good,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 10: really soon. Whether that happens in July or September or
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 10: next May, I couldn't tell you. We got to keep
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 10: them healthy. We got to keep their progression going through
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 10: the low miners into the upper miners. Once you get
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 10: to Arkansas, you know, we've seen it with Bryce and
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 10: Brian and George and Logan. Once you get to Arkansas
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 10: and start playing in Little Rock, you're on the radar.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 10: So like, that's a conversation. I think we'll revisit once
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 10: they get to that point.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 11: How happy are you about the health and whatnot of
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 11: the starting rotation. I mean, four years this team's been
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 11: a viable contender out there, and it's been in large
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 11: part because of that starting rotation. Dealt with some injuries
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 11: beginning even all the way down to the end of
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 11: the season. Everybody healthy right now.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 10: Everybody's healthy, God, right now. This is the one area
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 10: where I will always probably lose sleep is waking up
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 10: in the middle of the night fearing that somebody's gonna
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 10: get hurt. You know, you're gonna have to tap into
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 10: your depth. You can never have too much depth. For
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 10: that reason. I think last year was was a tough one.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 10: You know, there were times when we were missing two
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 10: and then three of our five starters at various points
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 10: in the season. We hadn't had that in previous years.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 10: We sort of lived in the life that everybody else
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 10: had lived in last year, which is, you know, having
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 10: to tapp into your depth for not a week or
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 10: two at a time, but for months at a time.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 10: Bryce Miller threw out here yesterday and looked awesome. He was,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 10: you know, ninety seven ninety eight with all the secondary
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 10: pitches working in the strike zone. Really impressive. How he's
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 10: come out of the gate so far this spring. Brian
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 10: looks great. George, same thing. Louie will get off of mound,
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 10: I believe today or tomorrow. He was a little bit
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 10: delayed just because he had a baby and a little
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 10: beautiful baby girl, so they will. He was in camp
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 10: about five days late, so he'll get off the mountain,
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 10: I believe tomorrow. And then and Logan looks like Clogan,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 10: so knock on wood. Everybody's healthy today. Please let's keep
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 10: him that way for the next seven months.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: Justin Hollander with us right here on chalking back in
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: the morning. That was Friday's conversation that we had to
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: close out our spring training coverage last week. But yeah,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: there's some meaty stuff there.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 3: I was like, man, when when you asked him. We
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 3: brought up a Cole Young situation and it was like, yeah,
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: he's I was like, did you just say that? Is
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: he going to get in trouble for saying that?
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 7: Like?
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 3: Is he to be like, I mean, I don't know.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: We'll see, I mean, even the last Montes just you know,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: and cold Emerson. This, I mean, this is a new way.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, baseball's finally come around on this. Once upon
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: a time, Edgar Martinez had to wait until Jim Presley
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: was old. Yeah, and now we don't do that anymore.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: It shows you how backwards it was back in the day.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, how many hits would Edgar have had if
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: they would have activated him when he was ready and
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: not when Jim Presley was done?
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And we don't do that anymore. And we've even
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: come a long way in recent years because of the
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: changes that they've made in the CBA to you know,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: encouraging not just discouraging. He used to discourage teams from
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: activating young players when they were ready. You got to
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: control their clock. And now we are finally to the
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: point where best man's going to take the job when
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: they're ready. Now we don't want to activate them too early,
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: because there is something too you know, they go to
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: the big leagues, they crash and fail for the first
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: time in their lives at baseball, and maybe it enters
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: into their brains and they have a slow time recovering,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: or maybe it destroys them entirely. They just never reclaim confidence.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen that a lot happen in baseball history.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: But just the objective is when they're ready, they're gonna play,
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: and they're gonna play at the highest level. But we're
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: gonna make sure that they're ready. And I love that.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: I love that philosophy, and I love how forth right
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: they are about it these days, and I think that's encouraging.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe Las Montes is the mid season addition
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: to this team. Yeah, maybe maybe he's the DH. Maybe
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: he's closer than you know, the object in the rearview
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: mirror is closer than it appears, and it's already very
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: large intimidate. All right, Coming up next the Seahawks. They
• 1:32:22
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• 1:32:29
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• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: He's stranded in a snowstorm with his wife, Wendy, and
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  Speaker 1: really a romantic opportunity. And it struck me of the time,
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  Speaker 1: and I used to think that this was a really
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  Speaker 1: romantic thing, but no, I think there's a different word
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  Speaker 1: out and that while I was at school that we
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  Speaker 1: were going to get this big snowstorm, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: a foot foot and a half of snow was coming.
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  Speaker 1: was going to be out of town for the weekend. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: college kids don't normally have. Beat the snow. It did
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  Speaker 1: snow storm. We were locked inside for like two and
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  Speaker 1: a half days.
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  Speaker 3: They probably just played go fish.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I still, you know, call it one of the most
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  Speaker 1: romantic things I've ever done. I think my college girlfriend
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  Speaker 1: thinks of it as the horniest thing I've ever done.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's you know what. Both can be true, So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I guess there can be two right answers.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Greg Bell ended up there, and that wasn't strategy.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't earn that. You didn't earn it like I
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  Speaker 1: earned it.
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  Speaker 3: That's true. You didn't work hard for it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw three moves ahead.
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  Speaker 3: I was like Gretzky, Yeah, what were you doing? Just
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  Speaker 3: visiting family?
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Exactly? The right? All right, Well, speaking of work, Greg
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  Speaker 1: Bell as soon as he gets out of the Northeast,
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  Speaker 1: is heading to Indianapolis, and he hopes he gets there
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  Speaker 1: in time because he doesn't go for the pajama party.
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  Speaker 1: He goes there to meet with John and Mike. But
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  Speaker 1: he just saw those fellows a couple of weeks ago
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  Speaker 1: because they won the Super Bowl and it was a
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  Speaker 1: little longer season than what normally occurs, and so he's
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  Speaker 1: going to try to get there in time and find
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  Speaker 1: out exactly what the game plan is. But when John
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  Speaker 1: Schneider goes to the Combine, especially when he's a couple
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  Speaker 1: of weeks behind because his team won it all, he
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  Speaker 1: goes there to work, and it's not necessarily just to
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  Speaker 1: hold a stopwatch. I mean, he usually conducts business there,
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  Speaker 1: and he even said so himself that some kin Walker
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  Speaker 1: business is going to be done while he is in Indianapolis.
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  Speaker 1: And who knows if he's going to be able to
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  Speaker 1: pull this thing off. I realize that the first two
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  Speaker 1: guys that come to mind are Ken Walker and Rashid
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  Speaker 1: Shahed to bring back next year. But I've mentioned this
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  Speaker 1: a few times. I'll mention it a lot before the
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  Speaker 1: free agency frenzy gets underway. I just don't think this
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  Speaker 1: organization is in a position where they're going to have
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  Speaker 1: to outbid and sweat what one or two players are
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  Speaker 1: going to do on the free agent market. I think
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  Speaker 1: that this organization is in such a position of power.
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  Speaker 1: They have such a good roster right now, such a
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  Speaker 1: young roster, such good cap flexibility, that I do believe
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  Speaker 1: they are going to make a fair market offer to
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  Speaker 1: both as they see it, to both Shahed and Walker.
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  Speaker 1: But if Walker or Shahed want to take the highest salary,
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  Speaker 1: the highest bid on the free agent market, I think
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  Speaker 1: they're just going to let them walk. They really do,
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  Speaker 1: and I think we need to be prepared for that,
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  Speaker 1: because I don't know I'm going to really knock Ken
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  Speaker 1: Walker for any running back. We're taking the largest offer
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  Speaker 1: that they possibly can get in there one, let's face it,
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  Speaker 1: one opportunity to be a free agent. So, as I
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  Speaker 1: said many times before, yes the Seahawks have cap space,
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  Speaker 1: but there are teams out there that have cap space
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  Speaker 1: and are desperate to produce a winner, and that combination
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  Speaker 1: leads to a lot of overbidding. And I don't think
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  Speaker 1: that the Seahawks are desperate in any way to play
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  Speaker 1: fall victim to that. So I think they're going to
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  Speaker 1: give him a fair market value to both of those
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  Speaker 1: guys with the explanation, Hey, if you want to be
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  Speaker 1: a part of something special, this championship thing that we've
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  Speaker 1: got going, not that we're building toward, we're already there.
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  Speaker 1: We're already on top of the mountain. We're If you
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  Speaker 1: want a house on top of the mountain with us,
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  Speaker 1: we'll build you an ice house. But if you need
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  Speaker 1: a mansion in the valley, then I suppose that's where
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  Speaker 1: you need to move, and I'll I'll help you get
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  Speaker 1: the couch, you know, I'll get one.
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  Speaker 3: In, you get the other, and I'll send you a house.
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  Speaker 3: Swarming gifts, right.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't think they're gonna play ball at the
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  Speaker 1: top of the market for either of these guys on
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  Speaker 1: one end, because Tory Horton's here to potentially do what
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  Speaker 1: Shihed did and I'm not saying as well or as dynamically.
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  Speaker 1: Time will tell on that. But in terms of am
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  Speaker 1: I a deep threat, Yes? Can I return punts and kicks?
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  Speaker 5: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Did I do it pretty well in a short period
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  Speaker 1: of time in my rookie season, yes? Will I get
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  Speaker 1: better at both Yes? So they've got a backup plan
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  Speaker 1: without having to overspend on Rashid Shahed. And then as
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  Speaker 1: far as running backs go, I mean, you find one
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  Speaker 1: in the draft, you got seventy three million dollars a
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  Speaker 1: cap space to work with that doesn't include you having
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  Speaker 1: to spend fourteen million dollars a year on Ken Walker.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really at this stage, Ashley, I just I think
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  Speaker 1: it's not I think they're both going to be gone,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that they're going to direct their attention
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  Speaker 1: and their money toward Kobe Bryant and maybe a couple
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: of the other for it, maybe even Rik Woolan. As
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: frustrated as we were with Rek Woolan.
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  Speaker 3: I guarantee talented, extremely.
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  Speaker 1: Talented, and I guarantee you Mike McDonald doesn't just want
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: him to walk out the door. I mean, maybe there
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  Speaker 1: is some frustration with him, but I have a feeling
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  Speaker 1: there's a better chance Reek Woolan returns than both Walker
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  Speaker 1: and Shaheed.
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  Speaker 4: And I would love to be pleasantly surprised, but I think,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the Seahawks have paid too much and given
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 4: up too much for players before, and it has burned
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  Speaker 4: them big time. Jamal Adams, so I don't think that
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  Speaker 4: there's any chance that they're going to fall victim to
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  Speaker 4: that overpay market for Walker or Shaheed, and I don't
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  Speaker 4: blame them, And I don't blame those guys for going
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 4: out to try to find the biggest contract they can find.
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  Speaker 4: It would be awesome if it could work out, and
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  Speaker 4: they wanted to be here and they were willing to
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  Speaker 4: take whatever the Seahawks were offering, and the Seahawks gave
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  Speaker 4: them a fair offer.
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  Speaker 3: That would be awesome.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm not going to hold my breath that something
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  Speaker 4: like that's going to happen, nor do I fault either
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  Speaker 4: side if it doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: And I think there is a chance that they could
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  Speaker 1: give a less be given a less than market value,
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  Speaker 1: and they're the type of personalities that might take them
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  Speaker 1: to be a part of this special thing. I don't
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  Speaker 1: Ken Walker does not strike me as some egomaniac that
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: has to get the absolute highest dollar. He just doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, it feels to me like
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  Speaker 1: he's just the opposite. And Shaheed has made it very
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: clear to Greg and others I love it here. So
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: maybe they both do take what the Seahawks offer and
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: that will be good enough. But I think that's the
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  Speaker 1: only hope. Yes, because there's no way that John Schneider's
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  Speaker 1: going to make himself financially uncomfortable, or should he to
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  Speaker 1: bring these guys back when there are other ways to
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  Speaker 1: satisfy those holes. Yes, all right, one last thing to
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  Speaker 1: close it out. In next Sports Radio ninety three point
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