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Serial Killer Documentary - The La Madera Spree Killer · The Evolution of Evil - True Crime Stories

• 0:08
  Speaker 1: This time on Killers Caught on Camera, a terrifying day
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: amid the heat and dust of New Mexico.
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  Speaker 2: When we're dealing with a person who just committed a
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  Speaker 2: mass shooting, we don't know what the mentality of this
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  Speaker 2: person is.
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  Speaker 1: And in snowbound Colorado, a shocking discovery.
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  Speaker 3: The scene itself looked like some sort of altercation had
• 0:34
  Speaker 3: taken place that was quite violent.
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  Speaker 4: It might be blood.
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  Speaker 5: It just sounds like something bad is happening to her.
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  Speaker 1: We know what happened because the video tells us what happened.
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  Speaker 4: I heard some gunshots.
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  Speaker 6: Drop it!
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  Speaker 7: Whatever it is, drop it!
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  Speaker 4: That does not prove that I killed my wife. The
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  Speaker 4: camera doesn't lie.
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  Speaker 1: In northern New Mexico... In Rio Arriba County is La Madera.
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  Speaker 8: La Madera, New Mexico, is a very small community, a
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  Speaker 8: very rural area. There are a lot of families that
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  Speaker 8: live there. Everyone virtually knows everyone else.
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  Speaker 5: 911, what's your emergency? Ma'am, I really need you to
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  Speaker 5: take a deep breath and tell me I can't understand you.
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  Speaker 5: What's going on?
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  Speaker 4: A 911 call comes in. It is clearly panic. There's
• 1:45
  Speaker 4: a lot of yelling. There's a lot of screaming.
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  Speaker 5: Then essentially the call goes dead.
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  Speaker 1: Deputies arriving on the scene were met by distressed neighbors.
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  Speaker 4: Were you here?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I was here for the first one.
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  Speaker 8: The first law enforcement agency that arrives is the Ruririba
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  Speaker 8: Sheriff's Office.
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  Speaker 4: They discover three victims.
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  Speaker 10: Max was shot, and I was over the checkers here.
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  Speaker 1: The victims were identified as Max Trujillo. his stepson, Brendan Herrera,
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  Speaker 1: and Brendan's mother, Maria, known to friends and family as Brenda.
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  Speaker 5: Brendan's still alive, making noise.
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  Speaker 10: We need an ambulance here.
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  Speaker 2: One individual, the mother, Brenda, was still alive at the time,
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  Speaker 2: so they were trying to get medical attention for her.
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  Speaker 2: RA7 sensor, we're going to have two possible 10-7, 141.
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  Speaker 4: Barely breathing. We're going to need 55 here.
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  Speaker 2: The other two individuals, Brendan and Max, were deceased at
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  Speaker 2: the time that law enforcement got there.
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  Speaker 1: The deputies on scene urgently needed to locate the shooter.
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  Speaker 4: Sheriff's office.
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  Speaker 2: Officers are thinking about if there's a suspect still inside
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  Speaker 2: of the residence.
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  Speaker 5: Sheriff's permit!
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  Speaker 4: Are they at risk right now as well? A lot
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  Speaker 4: of weapons here.
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  Speaker 11: Did you hear anything that they were fighting about?
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  Speaker 1: More residents appeared on scene.
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  Speaker 4: This is a crime scene. You're going to have to
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  Speaker 4: go over here. I'm really sorry, guys. This is a
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  Speaker 4: crime scene. You're going to have to stay over there, okay?
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  Speaker 4: We have the medics coming over here.
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  Speaker 1: This was Brenda's teenage daughter, Carissa.
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  Speaker 6: My mom was such a selfless person. She was very inspirational.
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  Speaker 6: She was my best friend. I wouldn't go anywhere without
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  Speaker 6: my mom. She was very caring. She wore her heart
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  Speaker 6: on her sleeve.
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  Speaker 1: Max was a steelworker and got together with Brenda just
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  Speaker 1: before Carissa was born.
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  Speaker 6: My dad's personality was so goofy. I mean, this man
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  Speaker 6: would light up a room. Anytime he would come in,
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  Speaker 6: he would just joke, and he would laugh and make
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  Speaker 6: us laugh, and I loved his personality so much. He
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  Speaker 6: was a good man. They were best friends. They would
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  Speaker 6: support each other no matter what. You could tell they
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  Speaker 6: had true love.
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  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Also living at the property were two of Carissa's brothers,
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  Speaker 1: Damian and the third victim, Brendan.
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  Speaker 6: Brendan and I, it was a couple years apart. He
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  Speaker 6: was just the best, most genuine soul you'd ever meet.
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  Speaker 1: At the crime scene, Carissa had troubling information for the deputies.
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  Speaker 10: The day of the incident, I remember just hanging out
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  Speaker 10: at home.
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  Speaker 6: Brandon had his day off, so he was in his
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  Speaker 6: room watching movies. Damian was not working. He had just
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  Speaker 6: dropped out of college. He quit his job, so he
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  Speaker 6: was struggling. I remember just looking out the front door,
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  Speaker 6: and I mean, I see my dad walking to the
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  Speaker 6: door to come inside, and all of a sudden, I mean,
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  Speaker 6: I saw him point the gun, and you just hear
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  Speaker 6: the shots go off, and My dad just fell. My brother, Brendan,
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  Speaker 6: had heard it, and he ran out the same time
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  Speaker 6: my mom did it. My mom was just on the
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  Speaker 6: ground with my dad and told me to call 911.
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  Speaker 6: She was trying to talk, and he went and grabbed
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  Speaker 6: the phone from my mom and threw it across the
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  Speaker 6: roof of the house. So we had no phone to
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  Speaker 6: finish calling. Damián started just fighting with Brendan. He just
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  Speaker 6: overpowered Brendan. And he just had the gun by his neck,
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  Speaker 6: between his neck and his shoulder, and he just pulled
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  Speaker 6: that trigger. My mom heard the gunshot, and she was
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  Speaker 6: just pleading, just don't do it, just don't do it.
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  Speaker 6: And he just looked at her and pointed the gun
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  Speaker 6: straight at her. And she said, please don't do it.
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  Speaker 6: And he just let that one go too. I just
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  Speaker 6: knew if I didn't get out of there, I was
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  Speaker 6: going to be next. And I needed to get help.
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  Speaker 6: I just ran. I ran to whatever house I could
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  Speaker 6: find first.
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  Speaker 4: Max Trujillo Sr. was shot in the back.
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  Speaker 8: Brendan Herrera was shot almost execution-style in the back of
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  Speaker 8: the head, and Brenda was shot on the side of
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  Speaker 8: her head, basically on the right temple. All of those
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  Speaker 8: wounds were clearly from someone that intended to kill his victims.
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  Speaker 4: Suspect's on. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: By the time first responders arrived, Damian had already fled
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  Speaker 1: the scene.
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  Speaker 2: The suspect had stolen a pickup truck from that property
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  Speaker 2: as well as some other firearms. When we're dealing with
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  Speaker 2: a person who just committed a mass shooting, we don't
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  Speaker 2: know what the mentality of this person is. Are they
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  Speaker 2: going out and are they going to continue a spree
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  Speaker 2: of murders afterwards?
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  Speaker 12: My husband... My husband is.
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  Speaker 13: I don't know if he's dead or not.
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  Speaker 7: I think he's dead.
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  Speaker 2: While we were en route to La Madera, there was
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  Speaker 2: another 911 call that came out advising that a woman,
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  Speaker 2: she had just came home and found her husband laying
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  Speaker 2: shot in their front yard.
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  Speaker 1: This incident had taken place 35 miles away in the
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  Speaker 1: equally small community of Tres Piedras.
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  Speaker 4: When I arrived on.
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  Speaker 2: Scene, I observed an elderly male laying down on the
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  Speaker 2: ground with apparent gunshot wounds.
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  Speaker 4: He was deceased. The individual who shot him had also
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  Speaker 4: stolen his pickup truck.
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  Speaker 1: The victim was Michael Kite, a retired archaeologist who had
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  Speaker 1: only recently moved to New Mexico.
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  Speaker 4: This is a very remote area.
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  Speaker 8: It would be unusual, highly unusual, to have that number
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  Speaker 8: of fatalities in that short of a time period that
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  Speaker 8: close together. So I think that at that point they probably,
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  Speaker 8: you know, had a good idea that they were all related.
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  Speaker 1: Shortly after, those suspicions were confirmed when Herrera's trial... from
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  Speaker 1: La Madera was found abandoned not far away. It had
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: run out of gas. I think it would be easy
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  Speaker 1: to think, well, he's just a ruthless murderer at this
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  Speaker 1: point on a spree. He's killing people. He's killed his
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  Speaker 1: own family members. Now he's killing strangers on the road.
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  Speaker 1: But probably what's going on in his mind is he
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  Speaker 1: was desperate. He is still trying to escape. And he
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  Speaker 1: needs to put distance between himself and the crime scene.
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  Speaker 1: And the only way he's going to do that is
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  Speaker 1: if he has another vehicle or gas. And I think
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  Speaker 1: in that moment, you're not thinking about this individual as
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  Speaker 1: a human being. So I think it's more of a
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  Speaker 1: practical and instrumental, as we call it, murder. By now,
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  Speaker 1: Carissa's mom, Brenda, had been airlifted to the hospital. She
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  Speaker 1: was on life support.
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  Speaker 6: I held her hand. I didn't want to leave her side.
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  Speaker 6: They did inform us that she was brain dead. There
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  Speaker 6: was no way of her coming out of it. Seeing
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  Speaker 6: her in that bed was the hardest thing. She didn't
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  Speaker 6: look like my mom anymore. I just knew that she
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  Speaker 6: couldn't suffer. I just knew that we had to do
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  Speaker 6: something about it. And I mean, she was just in pain.
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  Speaker 6: And so it was about a day and we took
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  Speaker 6: her off life support.
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  Speaker 1: Just a few hours after they received the first call,
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  Speaker 1: the Ria Ariba Sheriff's Office got.
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  Speaker 4: Yet another 911 call.
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  Speaker 12: It was reported to us that over in the community
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  Speaker 12: of Abiquiu, an individual was shot at the Bodie's gas station.
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  Speaker 12: The victim was identified as a local man. Manuel Serrano
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  Speaker 12: was a family man who lived in that community.
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  Speaker 2: He worked as a security guard at the local Georgia
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  Speaker 2: O'Keeffe Museum. He was actually headed to work at the
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  Speaker 2: time that he was shot and killed.
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  Speaker 1: Investigators were able to access the store's CCTV.
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  Speaker 2: Here we see a black Chevy pickup truck pulling up
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  Speaker 2: to pump number six. This is the truck that was
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  Speaker 2: identified as being stolen from Michael Kite. At this point,
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  Speaker 2: there's an individual that walks outside with a straw cowboy
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  Speaker 2: hat and appears that he is going to be getting
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  Speaker 2: gas for his truck. So here you see a white
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  Speaker 2: Jeep pulling up to pump number four, and we see
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  Speaker 2: Manuel Serrano exiting his vehicle.
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  Speaker 4: And the individual begins to take notice.
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  Speaker 2: There doesn't appear to be any sort of communication between
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  Speaker 2: the two of them, but he's watching him, he's observing
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  Speaker 2: everything that he's doing. Manuel Serrano was still going about
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  Speaker 2: his business. He's actually cleaning his windshield and you see
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  Speaker 2: the black truck, the lights come on and the driver's
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  Speaker 2: side window goes down.
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  Speaker 4: An arm comes out.
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  Speaker 2: And the individual in that truck discharges his firearm in
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  Speaker 2: the direction of Manuel Serrano. From the ricochets off the pavement,
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  Speaker 2: we know that the gunshots are coming from him. Manuel
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  Speaker 2: Serrano is seen actually trying to escape the person who's
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  Speaker 2: shooting at him. As he's running away, that black truck
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  Speaker 2: is seen pulling out. This was a targeted attack. No
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  Speaker 2: altercation happened.
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  Speaker 1: Manuel Serrano died of his wounds shortly after. For investigators,
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  Speaker 1: there could be no doubt what they had witnessed.
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  Speaker 2: Manuel Serrano was an innocent victim who was shot in
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  Speaker 2: the back as a cold-blooded murder by this individual in
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  Speaker 2: the black truck. We were able to identify the individual
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  Speaker 2: as Damian Herrera.
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  Speaker 1: This doesn't feel like a situation where he's got nothing
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  Speaker 1: else to lose because the bigger question is what does
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  Speaker 1: he have to gain from shooting this guy? This is
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  Speaker 1: so random. And so I think there must be something
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  Speaker 1: going on in his own mind that we don't see
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  Speaker 1: where this makes sense, that shooting this man is a
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  Speaker 1: good outcome because it either protects his escape, it protects
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  Speaker 1: his identity, or maybe he thinks, what if this is
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  Speaker 1: a cop who's after me? Or what if this guy's
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  Speaker 1: out to get me? So it points to paranoid delusions
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  Speaker 1: for me or some sort of perception that we don't
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  Speaker 1: have just watching this footage that's only in his own mind.
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  Speaker 8: At this point, we've got multiple law enforcement agencies, you know,
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  Speaker 8: Española Police Department, Río Arriba County Sheriff's Department, New Mexico
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  Speaker 8: State Police, that are all involved in essentially this manhunt
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  Speaker 8: to find Damian Herrera.
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  Speaker 12: Units are heading north on 84. I have a unit
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  Speaker 12: heading in the direction of a possible suspect, black, Silverado,
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  Speaker 12: driving on the shoulder, almost hitting several vehicles.
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  Speaker 8: Herrera is speeding down the highway pretty quickly after killing Mr.
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  Speaker 4: Serrano.
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  Speaker 12: He is now driving in the northbound lane, northbound lane
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  Speaker 12: passing vehicle.
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  Speaker 6: He might go head on.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness.
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  Speaker 8: You've got two law enforcement officers that are chasing him.
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  Speaker 8: They're pretty close behind.
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  Speaker 14: Oh, he's going to wreck it.
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  Speaker 5: I think he's wrecked it.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's flipped.
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  Speaker 2: Damien Herrera ends up pulling too far off onto the shoulder.
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  Speaker 2: He goes off the road, hits a rock, and it
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  Speaker 2: causes his truck to flip, and it rolls over.
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  Speaker 4: At that point, it's a very active situation. There's dust
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  Speaker 4: all over the place. It's very hard to see.
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  Speaker 5: Stop the ambulance!
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  Speaker 4: Stop the ambulance!
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  Speaker 6: Stop!
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  Speaker 4: They're looking around, looking for the driver of the vehicle.
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  Speaker 8: They're actually looking.
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  Speaker 4: At the truck.
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  Speaker 8: And it isn't until just a few seconds later that
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  Speaker 8: they realize that the driver is actually already out of
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  Speaker 8: the vehicle and begins to charge at them. Cut!
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  Speaker 7: Stop it there!
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  Speaker 4: Stop right there!
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  Speaker 6: Cut!
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  Speaker 15: Oh!
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  Speaker 8: He is wild. He's trying to get guns. He is
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  Speaker 8: just fighting with everything that he has.
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  Speaker 10: Damian Herrera is not a large man, but it took
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  Speaker 10: three large and very healthy, very strong police officers and
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  Speaker 10: a taser a couple times to get him into.
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  Speaker 8: Compliance and to get him into handcuffs. That's how wild
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  Speaker 8: and crazy he was acting.
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  Speaker 2: He's in this fight or flight mode and he is
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  Speaker 2: full of adrenaline.
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  Speaker 1: It seems like a situation that spiraled from that first shot,
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  Speaker 1: and then he just kept shooting, and he kept running,
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  Speaker 1: and he kept attacking, and he's still in that mode
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  Speaker 1: when he encounters the police, and he doesn't know how
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  Speaker 1: to shut it off. Herrera was put in the back
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  Speaker 1: of the police car. Once he'd calmed down, he was
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: able to answer the officer's questions.
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  Speaker 4: I was in the train house, man. So we ran
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  Speaker 4: right into it over gasoline, okay? And I stuck out.
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  Speaker 4: Tried to take some down, me, gun.
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  Speaker 7: My brother got in the middle of it.
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  Speaker 4: And around enough to hit my brother, and I wrestled
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  Speaker 4: with my dad.
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  Speaker 2: And as I was trying to get the gun away,
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  Speaker 2: my mom went in the middle of it and started.
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  Speaker 4: Trying to hit. I don't even know if she was
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  Speaker 4: trying to hit me or him, but she ended up
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  Speaker 4: getting in the middle of it. And it was just,
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  Speaker 4: it was bad, dude.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even really remember.
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  Speaker 4: It was just so bad. The police officer then asked
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  Speaker 4: him about what happened with Mr. Kite. I asked him
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  Speaker 4: for gas. He took me to his house to go
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  Speaker 4: get gasoline.
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  Speaker 7: He was trying to push me out of his truck
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  Speaker 7: as soon as we got to his house.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. And I was just defending myself, dude.
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  Speaker 8: And then the police officer very artfully asked, you know,
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  Speaker 8: was there anything else that happened?
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  Speaker 4: He said, no, no, no, that's it, that's it. And
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  Speaker 4: then the police officer asked him about Manuel Serrano. I
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: was cleaning the windows and he.
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  Speaker 15: I don't even know what he started telling me in Spanish, dude.
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  Speaker 4: And I was just like, yo, calm down. And he
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  Speaker 4: started arresting me.
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  Speaker 16: And that's.
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  Speaker 4: All that happened.
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  Speaker 8: He had essentially blamed the killings on everyone else. And
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  Speaker 8: it's a story that is absolutely wild and unbelievable and
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  Speaker 8: just not supported by any evidence. He was actually even
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  Speaker 8: telling the police officer, you know, I'm not i'm not
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  Speaker 8: a violent person ask ask anybody it was just an
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  Speaker 8: alarming statement to hear out of his mouth considering that
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  Speaker 8: he had just killed five.
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  Speaker 1: People damian herrera was charged with five counts of first
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: degree murder Further charges arose from his time in custody.
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  Speaker 8: While he was incarcerated at the jail in Tierra Maria,
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: he attacked one of the guards.
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  Speaker 1: This just feels like Someone who isn't of sound mind,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: who's making incredibly bad decisions. Maybe he's just a violent person,
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  Speaker 1: but there's nothing to suggest from his criminal record or
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: from his own past that he was violent really before
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: any of this happened. And so you've got that first
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: incredibly violent act of shooting his stepfather and then a
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: cascade of violence that follows from there. Damian Herrera had
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: in fact been struggling with his mental health for some time.
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  Speaker 6: We all just kind of knew that something was wrong.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, we could see the signs, but we never
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: thought it would get this far. Damian had told me
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  Speaker 6: it would be cool to just see somebody hurt and
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: in pain and just to see them go through something.
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  Speaker 12: And I.
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  Speaker 6: Think at that time, I didn't really think of it
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  Speaker 6: as a way of him hurting us, but at the
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: time I knew it was weird. It was scary. Where
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: is this coming from? And I remember my mom just
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: reaching out to my siblings, my older ones, to just
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: let them know we need to help him in a way.
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: We need to get him to talk.
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  Speaker 1: This is a 21-year-old man, a young man, who is
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: in a pretty dark place. Fantasies of violence are not
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  Speaker 1: totally uncommon, but it is uncommon to voice to somebody
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  Speaker 1: else that you think this is acceptable behavior. And it
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: borders on something that's called criminal thinking. So criminal thinking
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  Speaker 1: is a set of beliefs that predisposes people to engage
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: in crimes, including violent crimes. And they include things like
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: rationalizations that make it seem like it's okay to be
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: violent or aggressive. that say, if I do bad things
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  Speaker 1: or break the law, it's because other people had it
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  Speaker 1: coming or that other people are out to get me.
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  Speaker 1: And so it's the set of beliefs that put you
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  Speaker 1: as the victim often in these situations and that make
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: it easier for you to justify lashing out against others.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Herrera was found guilty of the four murders in Rio
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Arriba County and sentenced to four consecutive life sentences, a
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: minimum of 120 years. The legal process in Taos County
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: for the killing of Michael Kite is ongoing because the
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: charge for the stolen truck is currently under appeal.
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: Why? Why would he do this? Why would anyone think
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: like this? To this day, I still ask why. It
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: was never really answered, never a question that he answered
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: on his own. It's gut-wrenching, is what it is. There's
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: Not a day that goes by I don't think of
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: my parents and Brendan. I mean, there's times where I'm
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: doing something and I'm thinking they would have enjoyed to
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: see this. It's the hardest thing to come back to
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: reality when I'm thinking and know that I can't pick
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: up that phone and I can't give them a call.
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: I can't give my mom a hug. There's never a
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: day that goes by. I mean, they were my everything, really.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Damian Herrera believed he could fight his way out of
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: the scenario he'd created in his own mind. Delusions can
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: take many forms. So they can be a very simple
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: delusion that you can fight and flee your way out
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: of a situation that is actually already impossible. Or it
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: can be a situation where you see reality through distorted eyes.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: And so that borders more on what we consider psychosis,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: where you have someone reacting to cues that aren't really there,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: but they're perceiving as such. And so you can have
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: a delusion that ends up fueling a crime in itself.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: which is when you think that it's me or the
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: other person, that if I don't kill them, they will
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: kill me, even if it is completely implausible. And it
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: was another delusion that led to a brutal murder in
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: the cold mountains of Colorado. In the west of Colorado
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: is Gunnison County.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Gunnison, a very rural community located in between two mountain ranges, 7,000
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: feet above sea level. So there is a lot of
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: areas that are inaccessible at certain times of the year
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: without special equipment and don't necessarily have cell phone or
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: even radio coverage.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: And so the job can get quite difficult at times.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: On March 7th, 2021, police received a report from a
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: remote corner of the county.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: The sheriff's office.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Received a call about an abandoned vehicle on Alpine Plateau Road,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: which is the road that would lead to the Arrowhead subdivision.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Deputies made their way up the snowy trail to locate
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: the vehicle.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: It was a small Ford Orb sedan, and it appeared
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: it had just gotten stuck in the snow going up
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: the road.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: Where was the driver of the vehicle? and why aren't
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: they the ones calling for help?
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: While the deputies were on the scene, the dispatch center
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: received another call from a nearby cabin.
• 26:38
  Speaker 12: 911, what is your emergency?
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: I haven't been here for a week, and I come
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: in and see the whole living room in a disarray,
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: really torn up.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: And then I see this body.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: Laying over there by the couch. They're face down.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: The body is cold. It's not moving.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Officers were confronted with a distressing scene.
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: There's something inside the couch.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Looking at the body, it was really hard to tell
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: what the injuries were because there was.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: A large amount of blood around it. But the body
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: had some severe injuries to the head.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: The scene itself looked like some sort of altercation had
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: taken place that was quite violent. The whole living room was.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: In disarray.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: There was a bottle of lighter fluid on the counter
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: and the coffee table was smoldering. It appeared that Some
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: kind of a fire had either started or somebody intended
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: to start.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: In all the chaos, investigators found a promising lead.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: We were able to find a set of car keys.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: On those keys was a tag that had linked it
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: to the abandoned vehicle that was called in earlier.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: The car was registered to 22-year-old Anna Raskon.
• 28:20
  Speaker 17: Ana was the type of person that people tended to
• 28:24
  Speaker 17: gravitate towards. She had this smile on her. She had
• 28:31
  Speaker 17: like this light heart and she was so kind.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: She did have a temper, not gonna lie.
• 28:36
  Speaker 17: She did have a temper and she was stubborn, but she,
• 28:42
  Speaker 17: she was an amazing person.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Ana was born in Grand Junction, Colorado, but she moved
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: back and forth between the city and her mother's home
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: of Agua Prieta in Sonora, Mexico.
• 28:59
  Speaker 13: When she first came from Mexico, I remember she hardly
• 29:02
  Speaker 13: knew any English, and she learned it, she picked it
• 29:06
  Speaker 13: up so quick.
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: So fast.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: She was really smart.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Always posing, I told you she always looked cute in people.
• 29:14
  Speaker 16: And a lot of people found it easy to talk
• 29:17
  Speaker 16: to her. She for sure was the person that you
• 29:20
  Speaker 16: would feel comfortable going to.
• 29:23
  Speaker 18: She always had that mother instinct.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:26
  Speaker 18: She was really nourishing.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Anna was a devoted mother who had her first child
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: at the age of 17.
• 29:35
  Speaker 17: I knew Anna was going to be a great mom.
• 29:41
  Speaker 17: One of her biggest ambitions was to have that white
• 29:43
  Speaker 17: picket fence life, having that normal life where she just
• 29:48
  Speaker 17: kind of took care of her kids.
• 29:50
  Speaker 18: Everything was good. Everything was stable.
• 29:53
  Speaker 17: That's what she dreamed of.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Anna later moved to Rifle, Colorado, to be with a
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: new boyfriend.
• 30:04
  Speaker 17: She originally had moved out there to be with her
• 30:07
  Speaker 17: daughter's father. She kind of stayed out there after they
• 30:11
  Speaker 17: split and ended up finding a job working at a
• 30:14
  Speaker 17: hotel doing housekeeping, but she was more focused on raising
• 30:18
  Speaker 17: her kids and being a mom.
• 30:19
  Speaker 13: For her kids.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: But life grew increasingly hard.
• 30:26
  Speaker 17: Anna's really started struggling and feeling the pressure of being
• 30:29
  Speaker 17: a single mom and doing things on her own. She
• 30:33
  Speaker 17: had overdue bills. She was a negative, her bank accounts.
• 30:38
  Speaker 17: She did express like, my life's falling apart at this point.
• 30:41
  Speaker 17: I need some help.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Anna was prescribed antidepressants and other medication to help her
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: mental health. But by 2020, she also began to self-medicate.
• 30:57
  Speaker 17: There was signs that Ana was using, but I think
• 31:00
  Speaker 17: as a family, we all found it very hard to accept.
• 31:04
  Speaker 18: We didn't want to believe that.
• 31:08
  Speaker 17: Ana felt that she was putting herself in a dark
• 31:10
  Speaker 17: place and she wanted to find a way to get
• 31:13
  Speaker 17: out of it. She reached out to her mom and
• 31:17
  Speaker 17: she asked, hey, can you take the kids just so
• 31:20
  Speaker 17: I can get into a new apartment, find a job,
• 31:23
  Speaker 17: get back on my feet, and then I'll.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: Go back for the kids.
• 31:27
  Speaker 14: Anna loved being a mother, and so to have to
• 31:31
  Speaker 14: send her children away very likely left her feeling depressed,
• 31:37
  Speaker 14: isolated from her loved ones, and also probably there was
• 31:41
  Speaker 14: an element of shame there. And so this cocktail of emotions,
• 31:45
  Speaker 14: these really difficult emotions to carry, they can really set
• 31:49
  Speaker 14: the stage for someone to start engaging in unhealthy and
• 31:52
  Speaker 14: unhelpful coping strategies. But then that means that we can
• 31:56
  Speaker 14: end up in kind of a cycle of suffering. So
• 31:59
  Speaker 14: we turn to the drug use, and then our emotional
• 32:01
  Speaker 14: and our financial pressures, they mount, they grow. And then
• 32:06
  Speaker 14: we then turn to the drugs again, and then we
• 32:09
  Speaker 14: fall into this loop that becomes really difficult to find
• 32:13
  Speaker 14: our way out of.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Eventually, on Friday, March 5th, Ana and her mother arranged
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: that Ana would drive down to Sonora, Mexico, to collect
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: her children that weekend.
• 32:29
  Speaker 17: Come Sunday, I get a call from my mom, and
• 32:32
  Speaker 17: she was like, hey, have you heard from Ana?
• 32:34
  Speaker 18: Nobody's heard from her.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: Her phone's off.
• 32:38
  Speaker 17: Nobody can get in touch with her.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: In Arrowhead, investigators were taken aback by the severity of
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: the victim's injuries. She'd been bludgeoned around her face and head.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Her arm was badly broken, and she had several large
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: puncture wounds in the back of her neck.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: It was a very horrific thing that took place. It
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: might be blood.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: We had found almost an antique pickaxe of some kind,
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: maybe an ice pickaxe, something like that.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: It was pretty clear that that was the murder weapon.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: And it absolutely came from the residence.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: We were able to track down some photographs of the
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: residence from an earlier time, and it was actually hanging
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: on the wall above.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: Kind of the door.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Through a law enforcement search database, we were able to
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: get a description and were able to confirm that the
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: female that was in the house was, in fact, Anna Roscoe.
• 33:51
  Speaker 11: I picked up the phone and said, okay, are you
• 33:55
  Speaker 11: sitting down? And I was like, don't scare me. Be
• 34:02
  Speaker 11: prepared because I'm gonna say something to you and it's
• 34:04
  Speaker 11: something bad.
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: She just told me that. My sister was gone. I
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: started going crazy. I didn't even listen to her anymore.
• 34:21
  Speaker 16: My first instinct was to go into denial because, no,
• 34:26
  Speaker 16: that wasn't possible. And I said, finally, I was like,
• 34:30
  Speaker 16: what happened? Like, what happened with her? And he's like,
• 34:35
  Speaker 16: at the moment, we're treating this as a homicide, so
• 34:38
  Speaker 16: it's under investigation.
• 34:41
  Speaker 13: When they called me, I started asking questions like, what
• 34:45
  Speaker 13: the hell?
• 34:46
  Speaker 18: Where did this happen? How did it all go down?
• 34:49
  Speaker 13: And they did tell me too, there's not a lot
• 34:52
  Speaker 13: we can tell you, but whoever did this to her
• 34:56
  Speaker 13: is a monster.
• 34:57
  Speaker 16: And I.
• 34:59
  Speaker 13: Can tell you that the way her, I can tell
• 35:04
  Speaker 13: you that the way her knuckles were, she defended herself
• 35:10
  Speaker 13: to the best of her abilities.
• 35:18
  Speaker 17: After the realization really set in of it was a
• 35:22
  Speaker 17: homicide investigation, it just made me think, like, who would
• 35:29
  Speaker 17: do that.
• 35:31
  Speaker 18: To a person?
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: Like, who?
• 35:33
  Speaker 17: Especially her.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Outside the cabin, the snow revealed further evidence. Footprints leading
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: to and from the property.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: The initial kind of size up was two people had
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: broken into a house for an unknown reason and one
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: ended up dead.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: We weren't sure how or why they were in the area.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Over in Rifle, investigators were given the names of people
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Anna had been known to associate with. One of them
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: was known to the police.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Jorge Solis had a bit of a criminal record, mostly
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: kind of small petty crimes, a little bit of property crime,
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: but primarily he had drug crimes going on in his record.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Interviews with neighbors on the mountain revealed that a man
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: fitting Solis' description had been spotted with Anna by the
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: car early on Saturday morning.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: I rolled the window down and said, you guys stuck,
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: need help. Do you remember what this female looked like
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: at all?
• 36:37
  Speaker 8: I remember very skinny.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: Very skinny, straight black hair.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Later that day, the same neighbors spotted the same man
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: further down the mountain. But this time, he was alone.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: 100% remember, without a shadow of a doubt, we picked
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: up that crazy kid in the back of the truck.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Do you remember what he was wearing?
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: I remember big, baggy blue pants.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: And I remember a big jacket.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: He had that, I don't know whether it was, you know,
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: mentally ill or drug-induced, but he was suffering some psychosis.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: At that point, he became our number one suspect.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: A search of Anna's vehicle revealed promising leads.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: Anything here you guys see that you're gonna need for evidence?
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: In the midst of that search, we had located several
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: receipts from Walmart located in Rifle, Colorado. At that time,
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: CBI had sent agents to request surveillance around the approximate
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: times that we saw on the receipts.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: CCTV showed Anna with an unknown male.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: The surveillance footage around the store picks him up.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Getting out of her car, walking into the store, and
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: right as they walk in the store, there's a great
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: shot of the two of them, where you can see
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: most of their faces.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Anna's companion was wearing the same jacket and pants described
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: by the witnesses who saw them on the mountain. Other
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: evidence also linked him to the crime scene.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: The male scene with Anna Rescoe has a very identifiable
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: baseball cap on it.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: We then locate this ball cap inside the vehicle.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: The man was now positively identified as Jorge Salas.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: The Walmart surveillance became a crucial piece of evidence because
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: it linked the two of them together, which what we
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: knew was the last known person she was with, and
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: to the car.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: We see him get in the car and drive away.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: How do we go from a shopping trip to Walmart
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: to Anna Harsko's death?
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Despite the breakthrough, the trail now went cold.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Ten days after the investigation had started, we had no sign,
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: no word of anybody seeing or hearing from Jorge Solis.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: And then we kind of catch a break.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: In Grand Junction... 95 miles away from the crime scene,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: a member of the public called the police about a
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: man acting suspiciously.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Officers with the Grand Junction Police Department were dispatched to
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: the area.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: Hey, what's going on? Can you come talk to me, sir?
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: What's your name? What's your last name? What's that? Well,
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: you do, actually. In this case, you do, because there's
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: suspicion of criminal activity, okay? So you got to identify yourself.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: I can't hear you. He says his name is Jay Santos.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: This officer is not convinced that this person is being
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: completely honest with him.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: Is Jay your actual legal name, or is it.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: What? Is Jay your legal name, or is it something else?
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: Okay, so what's your legal name?
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: George. One of the officers remembers reading the bulletin about
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: the warrant we had for a homicide suspect, and they're like, absolutely,
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: this is the guy we're looking for.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: All right, man, so you're under arrest. You've got warrants.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: I'm sure you knew that. That's my warrant on. Others,
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: a few of them, we'll explain. Can't take him out
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: of my car.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: There's an unease in this interaction where he's obviously being
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: a bit cagey. Certainly psychologically, he's trying to evade the
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: answers to the questions. And he's probably trying to be
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: strategic about it, but in the end, he gets detained anyway.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: When Jorge was picked up by Grand Junction Police, he
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: had a backpack with him. And we locate several items...
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: that were, without a doubt, inside the cabin. We had
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: contacted the cabin owner, and she had confirmed they were
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: in the basement of the house.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Salas' fingerprint was also found on a bottle in the cabin.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: We're positive this is the man who killed Anna Resco.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Agents from the Colorado Bureau of Investigation now conducted an interrogation.
• 41:51
  Speaker 9: You're not the first person who, in a cold, snowy area,
• 41:54
  Speaker 9: borrowed somebody's house for a little bit to lay up
• 41:56
  Speaker 9: for a while and warm up and stuff. But something
• 41:58
  Speaker 9: in that house, man, something went crazy between you two.
• 42:03
  Speaker 9: So do you know what happened? And you just don't
• 42:05
  Speaker 9: want to tell me?
• 42:07
  Speaker 12: I mean, do you know what happened?
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: No.
• 42:08
  Speaker 12: Do you know, like, what happened?
• 42:10
  Speaker 8: No.
• 42:13
  Speaker 9: Talk me through that, man.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: I think they got spun up on dope.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: They're somewhat lost or not really sure where they're going,
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: he now starts getting paranoid that she is a narc.
• 42:26
  Speaker 9: But you picked the house that you were walking to.
• 42:28
  Speaker 7: What do you mean by that?
• 42:31
  Speaker 10: Okay, you're not saying.
• 42:37
  Speaker 9: Anna was sacrificed.
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: What could have been you?
• 42:45
  Speaker 9: Well, you think you could have been the one that
• 42:49
  Speaker 9: was That was killed?
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: He has this bizarre story that he was being set
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: up and that she had to be sacrificed. And that
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: sounds to me like a almost what's called dissociative fugue
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: when you're like not really there. And you're taking drugs,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: and we know that they took drugs and that they
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: took them together. And you're just somewhere else. You're on
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: a different planet, and you have your own thoughts about
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: what's going on in the world. And it translates into
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: misperceiving reality in very weird ways.
• 43:27
  Speaker 9: I want to know what caused you to kill Anna.
• 43:32
  Speaker 9: We don't know why that happened. Well, we think you do,
• 43:37
  Speaker 9: and that's what you don't want to tell us. But
• 43:39
  Speaker 9: as of now, it's just gonna stay as, I don't
• 43:41
  Speaker 9: know why I killed her. I just killed her. That's
• 43:46
  Speaker 9: how you.
• 43:51
  Speaker 12: Want it to be?
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: What's striking is that he seems to accept that he
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: killed her at this point, and he isn't really making
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: an effort to patch together a plausible story for the cops.
• 44:07
  Speaker 9: Did you tell her what you were going to do?
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Jorge Solis made a conscious decision to end Ana Riscón' s life.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: Based on the scene, we know she fought because the
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: house was torn apart.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: But he went from such a violent act to, within hours,
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: talking to people on the street nonchalantly like nothing had happened.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: That tells you the kind of man he was.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Investigators had enough evidence to charge Jorge Salas with Ana's murder.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: On March 3rd, 2023, he was sentenced to 42 years
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: in prison following a plea deal.
• 44:58
  Speaker 18: The verdict is not really what we wanted.
• 45:01
  Speaker 13: He took that chance for her to live life, to
• 45:06
  Speaker 13: be a mother, you know, to her babies, and he
• 45:10
  Speaker 13: took that from them.
• 45:12
  Speaker 18: You know, they need her.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: And she loved them so much.
• 45:19
  Speaker 14: Anna's story is a particularly tragic one. She tried to
• 45:23
  Speaker 14: build a life for herself and her kids and just struggled, really,
• 45:28
  Speaker 14: to navigate this world. She kept falling on hard times,
• 45:32
  Speaker 14: but I think that she would constantly show that she
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  Speaker 14: had the passion, the devotion to be a good mother.
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  Speaker 14: She fought right up until the very end, even in
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  Speaker 14: the face of senseless violence. She tried to fight for
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  Speaker 14: her life and the life of her children.
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  Speaker 15: She was the best sister I had. And I still
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  Speaker 15: remember her with her good things. Not bad things, trouble things.
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  Speaker 15: I still remember the trouble things because now they're funny.
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  Speaker 3: And I.
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  Speaker 10: Love her.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you.