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- 0:02Speaker 1: It is Monday, October four. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
- 0:11Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours brought to you by Jet Home Loans
- 0:15Speaker 1: and now a guy who doesn't mind a warm beer
- 0:18Speaker 1: to go with his spotted dick, J. P. Chad Rick
- 0:24Speaker 1: and welcome in a Jaguars Happy Hour. It is London
- 0:27Speaker 1: Week coming up. But first we've got a review the
- 0:30Speaker 1: week seven game the Jaguars and the Giants. Giants gonna
- 0:34Speaker 1: win over the Jags at the Bank, and Masselli and
- 0:37Speaker 1: Frisco are standing by. We'll hear from those two about
- 0:42Speaker 1: the seventeen final Giants over the Jags at the Bank
- 0:46Speaker 1: on Sunday. The Giants ran the ball, especially in the
- 0:48Speaker 1: fourth quarter of the Jaguars rally fell one yard short
- 0:52Speaker 1: in the very end of the the last play of the game. Fanatics,
- 0:54Speaker 1: fan questions. We'll go around the league. We've got a
- 0:57Speaker 1: busy program ahead. Let's start with head coach Doug Peterson.
- 1:02Speaker 1: Jaguars good against the run, but then in the fourth
- 1:06Speaker 1: quarter they just goodn't stop it. Well, I thought our
- 1:09Speaker 1: defense for honestly three and a half quarters just stymied
- 1:14Speaker 1: their run game, you know, and kept him um kept
- 1:17Speaker 1: him at bay and all of that of course they
- 1:19Speaker 1: getting there, you know, getting their four minute four minute offense,
- 1:21Speaker 1: and things changed a little bit. But you know, for
- 1:24Speaker 1: for those three and a half quarters, you know, I
- 1:25Speaker 1: thought our defense did a nice job stopping the run
- 1:27Speaker 1: and handling that. We know Daniel's uh you know, athletic guy,
- 1:31Speaker 1: and some of his own read stuff he kept and
- 1:33Speaker 1: and um, you know, obviously gotta look at the film
- 1:35Speaker 1: and see see where we dropped that one. But you know,
- 1:39Speaker 1: again credit them, you know, um, they did what they
- 1:42Speaker 1: needed due to win the game at the end. More
- 1:44Speaker 1: to come from Doug Peterson a little later. It comes
- 1:46Speaker 1: down to the final play and wide receiver Christian Kirk
- 1:49Speaker 1: stopped a yard short that was close. Um, you know,
- 1:55Speaker 1: lots of play that you know we practice every week
- 1:57Speaker 1: and um, you know just kind of put the you know,
- 2:00Speaker 1: ball on the body and try to you know, fall
- 2:02Speaker 1: forward and get into the end. Zell. Uh. They did
- 2:04Speaker 1: a great job, you know if any corner did a
- 2:06Speaker 1: good job and you know kind of holding me up.
- 2:08Speaker 1: And then I thought, I could you know, try to
- 2:10Speaker 1: fall in. But you know, they played a great but
- 2:12Speaker 1: you know, we executed to play and so the way
- 2:14Speaker 1: we have practiced it so that's all you can ask for.
- 2:16Speaker 1: And then to the quarterback Trevor Lawrence. Top day at
- 2:19Speaker 1: the office with this Jaguars team overall, but there's still
- 2:21Speaker 1: a long string of games to go try to get
- 2:24Speaker 1: this thing right. I think it's important to stick together.
- 2:29Speaker 1: You know, at the end of the day, if we
- 2:31Speaker 1: can stick together, that's the only way we turn this
- 2:33Speaker 1: thing around. And we and we put ourselves we keep
- 2:36Speaker 1: continue to put ourselves in this position, but find a
- 2:38Speaker 1: way to actually get it done. U mean, if we
- 2:40Speaker 1: don't sit together, we don't have a we don't have
- 2:42Speaker 1: a shot. And I know we have a group that's
- 2:43Speaker 1: going to stick together. And and that's the That's one
- 2:46Speaker 1: of the best things that I think about this team
- 2:48Speaker 1: is how close we are. And you should have heard
- 2:50Speaker 1: the guys and locking them after the game and just
- 2:52Speaker 1: I mean, guys are so passionate about it and put
- 2:54Speaker 1: so much work in. And that's the that's the cool
- 2:57Speaker 1: thing is that's the only that's the only thing that
- 2:59Speaker 1: anybody cares about. And it's not about stats. It's not
- 3:01Speaker 1: about someone getting the ball or you know, a guy
- 3:05Speaker 1: getting a bunch of sacks or whatever it is. It's
- 3:07Speaker 1: just everybody wants to win, and that's why people are
- 3:08Speaker 1: so piste off, because um, we're not find a way
- 3:12Speaker 1: to do that right now, and it's gonna come now,
- 3:14Speaker 1: and I believe that, and we just gotta go do it.
- 3:17Speaker 1: If you have it. Full press conferences available on Jaguars
- 3:20Speaker 1: dot Com and Jaguars Social media, including Doug Peterson. Earlier today,
- 3:25Speaker 1: we'll hear from the head coach. Coming up a little later.
- 3:27Speaker 1: We welcome in Pete Brisco from South Florida Tony Boselli
- 3:30Speaker 1: from London, United Kingdom. Good afternoon, Pete, Good evening, Tony, Pete,
- 3:37Speaker 1: they lost another one, Tony. Tony's over there is all tired,
- 3:43Speaker 1: sponing and thrown in low tired, got my pajamas on, Pete, Hey,
- 3:53Speaker 1: can we can pull the billboards back up that started
- 3:55Speaker 1: the show because I think somebody put the wrong final score.
- 3:58Speaker 1: It was not seventeen, It seventeen. If you pull the
- 4:02Speaker 1: bullboard up, that's I totally whifted that. I built that.
- 4:07Speaker 1: This morning, Baselly coming from the from London with a
- 4:12Speaker 1: right hand cross saying and it was seven game. I'm
- 4:17Speaker 1: not trying to call anyone out. I don't know who
- 4:19Speaker 1: did its SEVENTI right there, it doesn't matter, corrected him
- 4:29Speaker 1: not correcting you. Well, we can fix it for later
- 4:33Speaker 1: when they post it, they can put it up, right,
- 4:35Speaker 1: that's all. I'm just trying to help. All right, all right,
- 4:38Speaker 1: you're just cranky and I am. By the way, a
- 4:42Speaker 1: couple of things. I agree with Doug Peterson what he said.
- 4:47Speaker 1: They did a great job against the run um against
- 4:51Speaker 1: Kwan for three quarters. They didn't do a good job
- 4:53Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones. You can run the whole day. No,
- 4:57Speaker 1: all right, did I watch game? I mean maybe I
- 5:01Speaker 1: missed it, but I just I thought, I mean, they
- 5:05Speaker 1: were great against the Kwan, but they were. It was
- 5:09Speaker 1: almost like, and I know this isn't the fact that
- 5:11Speaker 1: don't talked about. It was almost like they didn't realize
- 5:13Speaker 1: there was the zone reef jumps what I felt. They
- 5:18Speaker 1: kept crashing in every and it was different guys every
- 5:22Speaker 1: single time. It wasn't the same guy. Whoever, they know
- 5:24Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Uh, And they didn't play they didn't
- 5:28Speaker 1: play it very well. And I mean, look, it costs
- 5:31Speaker 1: them ultimately. That's what costs on the game. It's his
- 5:33Speaker 1: ability to run. It's for it's only second time the
- 5:35Speaker 1: Giants quarterback is rushed for hundred yards in the history
- 5:37Speaker 1: of the franchise. Yeah, I mean that it was his
- 5:40Speaker 1: legs that killed us, But I will say this early
- 5:44Speaker 1: it was his right arm throwing to a bunch of
- 5:46Speaker 1: receivers that nobody knows about. And once again, the Jaguars
- 5:51Speaker 1: get no pressure. We don't get pressure when we rushed four.
- 5:54Speaker 1: We don't get pressure. When we rusch five, we don't
- 5:56Speaker 1: get blitz blitz. Yeah they I mean Mike car was
- 6:01Speaker 1: trying to get pressure. Our guys are not getting home. No,
- 6:05Speaker 1: that's a problem. And then the right tackle that with
- 6:08Speaker 1: a backup right tackle too, and then the guard went out.
- 6:13Speaker 1: There's no real four man pressure. Now what I didn't
- 6:16Speaker 1: understand yesterday. Early in that game, I thought Josh Allen
- 6:19Speaker 1: had it going against the right tackle a little bit.
- 6:22Speaker 1: And then for whatever reason, like in the second quarter,
- 6:25Speaker 1: like the second and third quarters, that put Josh Allen
- 6:27Speaker 1: over on Andrew Thomas. He was getting nothing. Oh he's
- 6:31Speaker 1: because he's one of the best left tackles in football,
- 6:33Speaker 1: and he had nothing going over there. And trey Von
- 6:37Speaker 1: wasn't getting He doesn't rushed the pasture on either side
- 6:39Speaker 1: right now, He's just not a pass rusher like his
- 6:41Speaker 1: saki felling in his Sackie fell into it. That was
- 6:44Speaker 1: Josh Josh Allen one, Daniel Jones up and then um
- 6:50Speaker 1: he got him off, this guy AND's got him. Yeah right,
- 6:53Speaker 1: But the lack of pressure Pete is a major issue. Oh,
- 6:57Speaker 1: it's bad. And it's the same and it's the same thing.
- 7:00Speaker 1: It's a lack of pressure. The linebackers drop out deep.
- 7:03Speaker 1: They dumped it underneath on those crossers into and underneath,
- 7:06Speaker 1: and there's always a ton of room there. And then
- 7:10Speaker 1: if not, they you know, flood the zone and get
- 7:12Speaker 1: get a guy coming out of the other way and
- 7:14Speaker 1: get him in the in the flat and they killed
- 7:16Speaker 1: him a buce with that, just like the Colts did.
- 7:18Speaker 1: I mean Robinson. The tackling is bad too in the
- 7:21Speaker 1: open fields. Not bad. Missed a bunch yesterday, Yeah, I
- 7:28Speaker 1: mean you look around. Number five needs to tackle better. Yeah,
- 7:32Speaker 1: he needs he needs to tackle better. He's just he's
- 7:34Speaker 1: not a good tackler. I mean that's and you've got
- 7:37Speaker 1: a free safety that can't tackle. That's a problem. And
- 7:41Speaker 1: then beat you look at it and again it's self
- 7:44Speaker 1: inflicted wounds. You know, you have a you off to
- 7:48Speaker 1: deal with the interception. This is stupid roughing the pastor
- 7:52Speaker 1: but he headed by them. What are you doing? Um,
- 7:56Speaker 1: I mean he tried to. It almost looked like he
- 7:58Speaker 1: tried to let up and he don't. He's still had Yeah,
- 8:02Speaker 1: I understand that. Um, that was no good and you know,
- 8:07Speaker 1: and then fumbled by e t n Uh. We'll go
- 8:12Speaker 1: through the scenario of going for it on fourth down
- 8:16Speaker 1: up up four. Uh, decided to go for it. Um,
- 8:23Speaker 1: that whole that whole like series of plays was interesting
- 8:27Speaker 1: to me, not deciding not to review it to going
- 8:33Speaker 1: for it on fourth down. And by the way, the
- 8:35Speaker 1: play call, which I'm a big center sneak guy, I
- 8:38Speaker 1: mean quarterback sneak guy. Um, I'm not sure about that
- 8:41Speaker 1: call with your backup for's not the first down? How
- 8:44Speaker 1: they not called that a first town be right, right,
- 8:46Speaker 1: I don't know how they even called the first down,
- 8:48Speaker 1: but he got it. Don't forget they ran third and
- 8:50Speaker 1: one two and got nothing right. But I don't I
- 8:54Speaker 1: don't understand how they should have challenged. They should have
- 8:59Speaker 1: challenged the Hey, they should have challenged the um spot
- 9:04Speaker 1: on the Kirk run. This was just stuffed the third down. Actually,
- 9:13Speaker 1: the backside guy comes down and makes a play on that.
- 9:16Speaker 1: Otherwise he gets this one. I don't understand why you
- 9:19Speaker 1: were on quarterback sneak behind your undersized backup guard. I
- 9:25Speaker 1: mean no, they could have run into the undersized starting
- 9:28Speaker 1: guard on the left side because he's underside. No, but
- 9:32Speaker 1: he's big, he's strong, strong. But okay, on the if
- 9:36Speaker 1: you watch the play, if we can run it again.
- 9:38Speaker 1: On the third down play, et N is getting the
- 9:41Speaker 1: first down, but the backside end comes down and gets them. Okay,
- 9:44Speaker 1: this is a first down. Hey, right there, he's way
- 9:48Speaker 1: he's across that. It's it's not even close. And then
- 9:51Speaker 1: they should have challenged it. They didn't. But this run,
- 9:53Speaker 1: watch the backside end comes down and gets him. Otherwise
- 9:56Speaker 1: he's getting the first down. And then on a quarterback sneak,
- 10:00Speaker 1: you're seventy pound right guard got blown up. What happened
- 10:07Speaker 1: to Schuff that he went out of there? That I
- 10:09Speaker 1: didn't I don't know. I never heard JP they now
- 10:12Speaker 1: say anything today. I didn't hear anything. See he runs
- 10:16Speaker 1: through that tackle. If the guy doesn't come from behind,
- 10:19Speaker 1: and then this is just a disaster. This this wasn't
- 10:22Speaker 1: even for quarterback sneak. Where you getting pushed. It wasn't
- 10:24Speaker 1: even close. That should be automatic. It should be an
- 10:27Speaker 1: automatic every single time. So it was a bad sequence.
- 10:33Speaker 1: Now having said all that, it's okay to kick it,
- 10:35Speaker 1: they have field goal. Well, yeah, here's where I didn't
- 10:39Speaker 1: understand the field goals. And let me just completely completely transparent.
- 10:43Speaker 1: Sitting in there in the booth calling the game, I
- 10:46Speaker 1: would had mixed emotions the player in BP, the offensive
- 10:49Speaker 1: line in me in me said if you can't get
- 10:53Speaker 1: two inches, you don't deserve to win. Go get it.
- 10:57Speaker 1: That was the offensive line in me. But then I
- 10:59Speaker 1: started doing app might wait a second fourth quarter, you score,
- 11:04Speaker 1: kick a field goal here you're seven. That changes how
- 11:07Speaker 1: the Giants are gonna play this drive because now they
- 11:09Speaker 1: know they have to score and and if they do,
- 11:15Speaker 1: you're gonna have the ball with call it five minutes
- 11:18Speaker 1: or six five, four to six minutes somewhere in there,
- 11:23Speaker 1: with a chance to go to take the lead again.
- 11:26Speaker 1: And all you need is field goal. I didn't understand
- 11:29Speaker 1: the not kicking the field goal. Okay, you were in
- 11:31Speaker 1: the booth, would log him and say, I can't remember.
- 11:35Speaker 1: I don't want to put words it is now, I
- 11:36Speaker 1: really can't. I don't I don't really remember, see because
- 11:40Speaker 1: I was sitting there in our green room when we
- 11:42Speaker 1: were getting ready to go on there and I'm watching.
- 11:44Speaker 1: I'm like, you have to take the points. You go
- 11:46Speaker 1: up seven. Here's the other thing, Tony. It's not like
- 11:48Speaker 1: it's fourth in an inch from the one yard line.
- 11:50Speaker 1: It's fourth of a minute within an inch. If you
- 11:52Speaker 1: get it, you still got nineteen yards ago to go
- 11:54Speaker 1: get the touchdown. Anyways, right, they've had red zone issue
- 12:00Speaker 1: is this year. So yeah, you know, take your field goal,
- 12:04Speaker 1: take your field goal, and then it take take your
- 12:08Speaker 1: field goal, go up seven, put the onus on Daniel
- 12:10Speaker 1: Jones in that offense, and go get a touchdown to
- 12:12Speaker 1: tie you. The biggest thing to me was the math.
- 12:17Speaker 1: The math of up seven. You're kind of you're you're
- 12:23Speaker 1: putting yourself in a position where you can control your
- 12:25Speaker 1: own faith. You're not gonna be playing from behind. And
- 12:31Speaker 1: the type of game that it was, Pete, it was
- 12:33Speaker 1: like up and down the field, working up in the
- 12:35Speaker 1: field points for a premium. They're going through down the field,
- 12:38Speaker 1: but neither nobody scored. Yeah that's right. But the thing
- 12:42Speaker 1: why didn't he kick? Why did he not go for two?
- 12:45Speaker 1: When they scored the touchdown, they kicked the extra point.
- 12:49Speaker 1: It was missed and they were up four, but it
- 12:51Speaker 1: would have put him up six. You go for the
- 12:53Speaker 1: two there. Remember it was seventeen, right, isn't that right
- 12:58Speaker 1: JP when they scored? Yes, okay, so you're up four.
- 13:02Speaker 1: What's the what's the extra point? Do? It doesn't do anything?
- 13:06Speaker 1: So go for two? Right? So you go for two
- 13:09Speaker 1: and make it six? Right? Yeah? I guess yeah, I
- 13:12Speaker 1: didn't think about it that way. What was the ant
- 13:15Speaker 1: I wonder what the analytics said on that fourth and inches?
- 13:17Speaker 1: What to do? Well, remember there was a false start
- 13:20Speaker 1: um on the long SNA and then yeah, and then
- 13:28Speaker 1: they tried the extra point from longer and it got blocked. No,
- 13:32Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm saying, you make a decision before you
- 13:36Speaker 1: even get in that situation. He said, do it before
- 13:39Speaker 1: you ever do it right? And then and then the
- 13:42Speaker 1: other one was the analytics on the fourth and inches.
- 13:47Speaker 1: You could talk all the analytia one, well, how many
- 13:49Speaker 1: games have there been with the Giants? Defense is playing
- 13:50Speaker 1: in Jacksonville Jaguars and Trevor Lawrence is the quarterback and
- 13:53Speaker 1: you have a backup right guard and if you can
- 13:55Speaker 1: factor that all into some analytics, Come tell me about it.
- 13:58Speaker 1: Doug Peterson said, it wasn't an analytics decision. It was
- 14:01Speaker 1: how they were running the ball and how they're moving
- 14:03Speaker 1: on offense that he believed that, hey, let's let's go
- 14:06Speaker 1: get this thing. So it wasn't hey let's go to
- 14:09Speaker 1: the boost and hear what it is on fourth and
- 14:11Speaker 1: two inches and and that's fair. That is fair to Doug,
- 14:18Speaker 1: And I would I would be okay if you had
- 14:20Speaker 1: your starting right guarden. He just left the game two
- 14:24Speaker 1: plays ago and he didn't have two monsters on the
- 14:27Speaker 1: inside for the Giants. Well, and you yeah, and you know,
- 14:32Speaker 1: like I think Van Lammon is gonna be a good player,
- 14:34Speaker 1: but he's an undersized guy right now. Need to get bigger.
- 14:37Speaker 1: You know that as a coaching staff. So you're gonna
- 14:41Speaker 1: run right behind him. Yeah, it made those you gotta
- 14:46Speaker 1: kick the field goal anyway. I don't care what the
- 14:47Speaker 1: analytics saying that situation. You're you put the pressure on
- 14:50Speaker 1: the Giants to go get a tie. Well they're gonna
- 14:52Speaker 1: do is tie you that's the best case scenario. Best
- 14:55Speaker 1: case and it's not like that inch. If you get it,
- 14:59Speaker 1: you're automatically go to get a touchdown. What is it.
- 15:03Speaker 1: It's not like they've been great in the red zone,
- 15:04Speaker 1: like you said, JP, they gotta still gonna go score,
- 15:07Speaker 1: So kick your field go go up seven. It's an
- 15:09Speaker 1: epidemic in the NFL. Kicking field goals is okay sometimes okay,
- 15:13Speaker 1: we've gotten away from it, and you saw it last
- 15:16Speaker 1: night in the Dolphins Steelers game. Kick that game was
- 15:20Speaker 1: sixteen ten. Why because he didn't kick a field goal
- 15:22Speaker 1: earlier in the game. He's sweating passes into the end
- 15:24Speaker 1: zone in the final seconds. It shouldn't come to that.
- 15:27Speaker 1: Be smarter. Well, we've got plenty ahead and more on
- 15:32Speaker 1: this discussion. I'm sure we'll get into the defense when
- 15:36Speaker 1: we come back a little bit more, and of course
- 15:39Speaker 1: later Travis E. T n s day as a whole
- 15:42Speaker 1: on the offensive side. Second hour, we'll have your questions.
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- 16:01Speaker 1: On that stuff. I let the team down there, uh
- 16:05Speaker 1: I got my hands out and try to, you know,
- 16:07Speaker 1: get some contact with my head. So that's that's the
- 16:09Speaker 1: that's the call. You know, I did hit him hard,
- 16:11Speaker 1: but that's the call him. Man. My stuff that's on
- 16:13Speaker 1: the It's foyer a little Jaguars linebacker and welcome back.
- 16:17Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. Of course, he's discussing the roughing
- 16:20Speaker 1: the pastor penalty that negated an interception. For nine years,
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- 16:35Speaker 1: its Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick with Pete Frisco
- 16:39Speaker 1: state side. Tony Vaselli is in the United Kingdom already
- 16:43Speaker 1: getting ready for the Jaguars and the Broncos coming up.
- 16:48Speaker 1: But what's happening this week during the week, Tony? What
- 16:50Speaker 1: all you got coming up the first few days or
- 16:55Speaker 1: no Jaguars stuff? I got some other stuff I gotta do. Thursday,
- 17:00Speaker 1: the Jaguar stuff starts, all right, So you combine, you
- 17:03Speaker 1: combine the Jaguars trip with another work trip. It's not
- 17:10Speaker 1: my first rodeo pie not my so I mean, wait,
- 17:13Speaker 1: so you know what that means. He's essentially getting a
- 17:15Speaker 1: week in London and it's and people are paying for
- 17:18Speaker 1: every damn meal he's gonna eat. Interesting. But you know,
- 17:24Speaker 1: we know how you have the three wa goose steak
- 17:27Speaker 1: or whatever it was out in California. What was that? Yes, yes,
- 17:35Speaker 1: it was not three hundred dollars. That's an exaggeration because
- 17:39Speaker 1: the guy looked it up and said it was a
- 17:41Speaker 1: D nine five or something. You said it was more
- 17:42Speaker 1: than that, so he said it was a hundred, and
- 17:46Speaker 1: I said it was your numbers. Right, it's gold flake
- 17:51Speaker 1: that steak, changing gears. I get a little con was saying,
- 17:59Speaker 1: but I didn't like he comes with his head, but
- 18:02Speaker 1: he literally lowered his head and hit him with his
- 18:04Speaker 1: head first. Wasn't this like I can get like sometimes
- 18:08Speaker 1: you go up and you're trying to bat the ball down.
- 18:10Speaker 1: As your hand comes down, it hits the guy in
- 18:12Speaker 1: the helmet and you get one of those cheap ee
- 18:15Speaker 1: you know, rough of the pastors Pete you know I'm
- 18:16Speaker 1: talking about. But this this was one where he like,
- 18:20Speaker 1: let's like lowered his head but then he tried to
- 18:23Speaker 1: but then he tried to stop. So if you're gonna
- 18:24Speaker 1: do it, you might as well get a good shot.
- 18:27Speaker 1: He tried to stop. He knew what he was doing.
- 18:31Speaker 1: By the way, I don't know what. I don't know
- 18:32Speaker 1: what Daniel Jones was looking at on that play, like literally,
- 18:39Speaker 1: just let watch the tron your beat. Yeah yeah, I
- 18:43Speaker 1: mean that is called a penalty. From the last five
- 18:47Speaker 1: years in the NFL. Every time. If that was college,
- 18:49Speaker 1: it would be targeting. He'd be out of the game. Oh,
- 18:52Speaker 1: he'd be out of the game. He lowered his helmet,
- 18:54Speaker 1: launched with his head and uh and hit him with it. Oh,
- 18:58Speaker 1: I understand that. I don't stand that play. Hey, By
- 19:01Speaker 1: the way, try to stop. Yeah he did. He like
- 19:04Speaker 1: he did that at the end he put his hands out. Yeah,
- 19:08Speaker 1: but he did that. But it was one of those
- 19:10Speaker 1: things I'm gonna try to stop, but I'm not really
- 19:11Speaker 1: gonna try to stop. Some lower my head and pound
- 19:14Speaker 1: you with it. But he didn't really pound it. He
- 19:15Speaker 1: could have really pounded. I get that, but Pete, why
- 19:19Speaker 1: are you lowering your right I don't know who on
- 19:23Speaker 1: defense played well for you guys yesterday. I thought Darius
- 19:29Speaker 1: Williams had a pretty good game. Have three passes defense yesterday. Yeah, Um,
- 19:35Speaker 1: I think he's an outside corner. I know he played
- 19:39Speaker 1: some of the slot too as well, but I think
- 19:41Speaker 1: he if I'm he started it outside corner right and
- 19:44Speaker 1: then putting when they put Herndon in, they moved him
- 19:46Speaker 1: inside back inside. He's much better. He's much better on
- 19:49Speaker 1: the outside. I think they need to play him on
- 19:51Speaker 1: the outside. He uh they went after her Herndon her
- 20:00Speaker 1: was outside and uh nickel and that was the first touchdown. Yes,
- 20:04Speaker 1: Slayton went by him and then they got him a
- 20:07Speaker 1: couple other times on the inside as well. He he
- 20:11Speaker 1: didn't have a great game Herndon, but I think he's
- 20:15Speaker 1: a better don't you think he's better inside than he
- 20:17Speaker 1: is on the outside. And I think it's better. Williams
- 20:22Speaker 1: is better in outside than he is inside. We said
- 20:26Speaker 1: this last week, we said, are okay, But Williams played
- 20:33Speaker 1: one of his best games yesterday. I thought I thought
- 20:36Speaker 1: so too. I think, um, Cisco is not good right now.
- 20:40Speaker 1: I'm sorry, he's just not why we don't tackle anybody?
- 20:45Speaker 1: And he said he struggle tackles. I mean, and he
- 20:49Speaker 1: was a big he was a big guy coming in.
- 20:51Speaker 1: We were counting, remember after camp he thought he was
- 20:54Speaker 1: gonna be makeup. Do you ever see him make a
- 20:58Speaker 1: great play in the whole year. If you can think
- 21:00Speaker 1: of one on one one play that he made, that
- 21:02Speaker 1: you that's it. But he's missed a lot of tackles.
- 21:08Speaker 1: He puts his head down when he tackles. Not a
- 21:11Speaker 1: good thing. Um I thought. I thought the interior defensive
- 21:15Speaker 1: line played well. They shut down Barkley. Hamilton's played well.
- 21:18Speaker 1: I thought Hamilton's did some good things. Um Roy hasn't
- 21:22Speaker 1: been as forceful as he wasn't earlier in the season.
- 21:25Speaker 1: I didn't think, um they don't rush the passer. Lloyd
- 21:30Speaker 1: made some splash plays on Sunday. You saw him starting
- 21:34Speaker 1: to flash in the back. He made a couple of
- 21:35Speaker 1: plays in the backfield. Even he's flashing a little bit.
- 21:40Speaker 1: They still they get lost at times in their zones
- 21:43Speaker 1: and stuff, and the guys sit down and they don't
- 21:45Speaker 1: get in the coverage and their wide open and make
- 21:47Speaker 1: it easy on them. That's just a matter of I
- 21:51Speaker 1: think the biggest thing is there's very few um let
- 22:00Speaker 1: me saying, well, they don't. They don't. They don't impact
- 22:03Speaker 1: the quarterback at all. And then and you don't like,
- 22:07Speaker 1: who's the super disruptive guy on that defense? Nobody good?
- 22:13Speaker 1: They have good players, But where is like the disruptive dude. Well,
- 22:16Speaker 1: and here's the other thing. Lloyd can run. Okay for
- 22:21Speaker 1: a linebacker, he's fast, but the group behind him in
- 22:25Speaker 1: that fast just go if they sack and fly, he
- 22:32Speaker 1: doesn't play like it. And Tyson Campbell can run. Yeah,
- 22:38Speaker 1: maybe Campbell's the one. And he's been a good player
- 22:40Speaker 1: this year. He's I mean, he's been a good player.
- 22:42Speaker 1: Did you think that was pass interference on him? Yeah?
- 22:46Speaker 1: I thought his hand got around Yeah, yeah, I think.
- 22:52Speaker 1: But dang, your question, was anybody, like Tony said, totally
- 22:57Speaker 1: disruptive on Sunday? The answers know on defense, they were good,
- 23:03Speaker 1: they were slad, they were sound, But there's not a
- 23:06Speaker 1: There's not anybody. Okay, this is his day to go
- 23:09Speaker 1: get his two and a half sacks and six pressures.
- 23:12Speaker 1: It's his day to go get fourteen tackles in the
- 23:14Speaker 1: past defense in an interception. It's his day to get
- 23:17Speaker 1: a pick and knocked down four passes and play the run.
- 23:21Speaker 1: There's not we There was none of that on Sunday. Yeah.
- 23:24Speaker 1: I really thought we had played seven games I thought
- 23:27Speaker 1: Josh Allen was I thought he was that guy. I
- 23:29Speaker 1: thought he had like six or seven sacks, you know,
- 23:32Speaker 1: forced fumbler too, like he And now I think you
- 23:37Speaker 1: agree with this. You try on to take Josh Allen
- 23:38Speaker 1: is a good football player, like he is solid, good physical,
- 23:42Speaker 1: like run around, hit you. But he there's he's not
- 23:47Speaker 1: pass rushing very well consistently. No, he's not. And neither
- 23:52Speaker 1: is Walker. Neither one of them put your hand on
- 23:54Speaker 1: the ground. And oh and by the way, they did
- 23:56Speaker 1: chip Walker a lot. I didn't notice that they were
- 23:59Speaker 1: chipping him. And and but he's neither one of us
- 24:03Speaker 1: put your hand on the ground and go win up
- 24:05Speaker 1: the field. They're not. They're not gonna do it. That's
- 24:07Speaker 1: not what they do. So I don't know. I think
- 24:11Speaker 1: when you when you look at somebody, what what do
- 24:15Speaker 1: you do with Josh Allen? I think you gotta payment
- 24:22Speaker 1: fifth year? To pay the fifth year and then go
- 24:27Speaker 1: from there. It's already they already gave it to him.
- 24:32Speaker 1: What I'm saying, you pay, you pay a fifth year,
- 24:35Speaker 1: but then you start working on an extension or do
- 24:37Speaker 1: you let him play. Well, here's the thing. This team
- 24:41Speaker 1: had some soilury cap issues going in the next year.
- 24:43Speaker 1: Of course they do, Yes, they do. Who there's gonna
- 24:49Speaker 1: be some guys you can't bring back what you want. Taylor,
- 24:55Speaker 1: I have a problem. Possibly he's playing good football for you.
- 24:58Speaker 1: He played it again, Yeah, he played good on Sunday. Great.
- 25:02Speaker 1: The I mean maybe if you so, let's say Josh
- 25:07Speaker 1: Allen days not track any finishes with nine zacks um
- 25:14Speaker 1: really solid year. Solid. I mean, maybe you go sign
- 25:20Speaker 1: them for a you know, not a top end pass
- 25:23Speaker 1: rushing deal, but a good outside linebacker deal, and you
- 25:26Speaker 1: sign them long terms so you can spread that money out,
- 25:28Speaker 1: so you're not paying them the big one fifth year
- 25:31Speaker 1: some that's all injury. You know what you know it's
- 25:37Speaker 1: Tony you mentioned disruptors. Those two as pass rushers. You're
- 25:42Speaker 1: they're both good, strong, physical football player, but like the
- 25:47Speaker 1: exact opposite of what the Colts used to have with
- 25:49Speaker 1: Robert Mathews and Dwight Free right, those two guys, you
- 25:55Speaker 1: their ability to go up the field, disrupt and explode
- 25:58Speaker 1: and and be athletic, Nick and you don't have that.
- 26:05Speaker 1: Well you look at but here's the thing. It's funny.
- 26:08Speaker 1: Be like, if you look at the AFC South, who
- 26:12Speaker 1: are the scary pass rushers in the South. An, No,
- 26:17Speaker 1: there are none, none, zero, because there's no Who are
- 26:23Speaker 1: the really good disruptive defensive players in the sc South?
- 26:29Speaker 1: Well is Leonard when he's on the field, but he
- 26:31Speaker 1: hasn't played he's got on the field, right, Um, Tennessee
- 26:37Speaker 1: has Simmons. Simmons is the best. I was gonna say,
- 26:41Speaker 1: Simmons is probably the best defensive player they see. That's
- 26:45Speaker 1: their disruptive player. And he met he messes things up
- 26:49Speaker 1: for you, right, Jacksonville doesn't have a mess up things
- 26:52Speaker 1: for you guy. Neither neither does the Colts do. When
- 26:58Speaker 1: Leonards on the field and is playing to his expectations,
- 27:02Speaker 1: that's it in their team. How about in Tennessee. In Tennessee,
- 27:06Speaker 1: beside Simmons, there's not much in in in Nashville, I
- 27:09Speaker 1: mean in Houston, there's nobody. No. But I know we're
- 27:15Speaker 1: gonna talk about NFC South later that next segment of
- 27:18Speaker 1: the segment. The I mean, this team now is two
- 27:26Speaker 1: and five, two and five lust four in a row,
- 27:30Speaker 1: and they they've had the lead in six of the
- 27:35Speaker 1: seven games in the fourth quarter eight and there are
- 27:40Speaker 1: two and five. They have a positive point differential at
- 27:45Speaker 1: two and five. Yeah, but your record is what you are.
- 27:49Speaker 1: What you are when you missed my point. This team finds,
- 27:53Speaker 1: you know, set like the Giants, the team we just
- 27:55Speaker 1: played to our six and one. They find ways to
- 27:58Speaker 1: win football games, right the final way. You know what
- 28:01Speaker 1: we do, we ways to lose football games. And they're
- 28:05Speaker 1: not in age wise, there's not a lot of difference
- 28:07Speaker 1: in the age of those teams either, because that's a
- 28:11Speaker 1: young time. And I think Bill Belichick was famous for
- 28:15Speaker 1: saying this, but I know a lot of coaches have
- 28:17Speaker 1: said this, But the first thing you have to do
- 28:20Speaker 1: is learn not to beat yourself. Correct because most games,
- 28:26Speaker 1: if you will just take if you'll say, if you'll
- 28:28Speaker 1: go into every game saying, we're not gonna beat ourselves today,
- 28:32Speaker 1: good clean football, We're not gonna turn it over. We're
- 28:34Speaker 1: not gonna make them penalties were to take advantage of
- 28:36Speaker 1: points when they're there. You know, we're not gonna give
- 28:38Speaker 1: a big play. You just you don't beat yourself. JPS
- 28:43Speaker 1: waving the paper. I see the paper, by the way,
- 28:47Speaker 1: any any news yet on whether before you go to
- 28:50Speaker 1: break JP any news yet? If they're flexing the Chiefs game,
- 28:54Speaker 1: the jury is still out on that waiting for word
- 28:58Speaker 1: from Seventh Read in New York on that one if
- 29:03Speaker 1: CBS is gonna make them, But we'll take a time
- 29:05Speaker 1: out offensive talk when we returned. Second hour coming up.
- 29:10Speaker 1: We'll get your questions from social media today. Check out
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- 29:19Speaker 1: or wherever you download podcasts. This Jaguars Happy Hour presented
- 29:24Speaker 1: by Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. You know,
- 29:32Speaker 1: I think hiding sight is And we can sit here
- 29:34Speaker 1: right now and say, hey, kick the field goal when
- 29:37Speaker 1: you're in game and your offensive line is handling them
- 29:39Speaker 1: the way we did. Um, I put it on them,
- 29:41Speaker 1: you know, to to do that. And and um that
- 29:44Speaker 1: had nothing to do with an analytical decision, right there
- 29:46Speaker 1: was more about how we were running the football at
- 29:48Speaker 1: the time, and uh, I felt really good about about
- 29:52Speaker 1: where we were. There's the head coach Doug Peterson after
- 29:55Speaker 1: the game yesterday discussing that fourth and one play at
- 29:59Speaker 1: the Giant twenty early in the fourth quarter. Welcome back,
- 30:02Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Our j P. Shadrick with Pete Frisco
- 30:05Speaker 1: and Tony Vaselli rehashing this Jaguars three seventeen loss to
- 30:12Speaker 1: the Giants. On the offensive side, Trevor Lawrence UM in
- 30:19Speaker 1: this game was twenty two or forty three passing three
- 30:21Speaker 1: hundred ten yards. The Lawrence ran four times for three
- 30:25Speaker 1: yards had to sneak touchdown. Also, what did you make
- 30:28Speaker 1: of Trevor's day as a whole in in this offense,
- 30:32Speaker 1: Tony Um, you think back, I thought Trevor played well
- 30:40Speaker 1: fine overall. I think he missed a Jones on a
- 30:44Speaker 1: throne in zone, but I thought he made some big
- 30:46Speaker 1: time throws and had composure in the pocket. Um. He
- 30:51Speaker 1: made some throws too when he was getting hammered and
- 30:54Speaker 1: just stepped in there and in through strikes. So I
- 30:58Speaker 1: gave him, uh a B B plus Yeah, B plus
- 31:03Speaker 1: is good. And Tony, he did some things that you've
- 31:06Speaker 1: been preaching and I've been preaching along. He checked it down.
- 31:09Speaker 1: There was a there was a route where they tried
- 31:11Speaker 1: to hit a deep shot and they both were covered
- 31:13Speaker 1: on the deep and he came down and hit the
- 31:15Speaker 1: hit the guy on the sideline for it was a
- 31:17Speaker 1: tough throw, but he hit it. Um. And there was
- 31:20Speaker 1: another one where he checked it down when he was
- 31:21Speaker 1: trying to go deep as well. I think he's learning
- 31:23Speaker 1: from that. You're right the day Jones one where they
- 31:26Speaker 1: delayed him on the crossing route and he was wide
- 31:29Speaker 1: open and the linebackers sunk a little bit and all
- 31:31Speaker 1: he had to do was put it out a little
- 31:33Speaker 1: bit towards the toward the sideline and that's a touchdown.
- 31:41Speaker 1: I think the guy spooked him a little bit here.
- 31:42Speaker 1: You can see it here. I think I think the
- 31:44Speaker 1: linebacker spooked him a little bit and he shouldn't have
- 31:46Speaker 1: because he didn't have enough depth to make a play
- 31:48Speaker 1: on that. That was an easy throw. That should have
- 31:50Speaker 1: be an easy touchdown. Yep. But I thought for the
- 31:54Speaker 1: most part that might have been one of his best games.
- 31:58Speaker 1: Um you know that the that at the end, the
- 32:01Speaker 1: two throws into the end zone, they weren't great throws.
- 32:04Speaker 1: I mean, you're just trying to throw it up the
- 32:07Speaker 1: one down to down, just trying to He went to
- 32:11Speaker 1: the right. I'll say that watching the tape, he went
- 32:13Speaker 1: to the right guys because they were one on one situations.
- 32:15Speaker 1: You got to do that. The play to Kirk, you know,
- 32:19Speaker 1: he talked about the cornerback making to play. That's not
- 32:21Speaker 1: who made the play. The safety. Love made the play.
- 32:23Speaker 1: He made a great play because the idea is you
- 32:27Speaker 1: run Jones in it was it Jones? I think it
- 32:29Speaker 1: was Jones runs inside of him and he kind of
- 32:32Speaker 1: takes him and he kind of carries him a little bit,
- 32:34Speaker 1: and then you hit that and he falls into the
- 32:36Speaker 1: end zone. But but Love didn't come off. He came
- 32:39Speaker 1: off Jones and stood there and made to play. If
- 32:41Speaker 1: he doesn't make the play, it's a touchdown for Kirk. Yeah.
- 32:45Speaker 1: Are you okay throwing that short of the end zone? Yeah,
- 32:49Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it's it's a design play. It
- 32:51Speaker 1: looked like it was designed. That's what designed. They were trying.
- 32:56Speaker 1: They were trying to get that. They were trying to
- 32:58Speaker 1: just get Love just to carry it. So there's a
- 33:00Speaker 1: tiny scene so he just he can fall at all
- 33:03Speaker 1: he needs is a half yard, right, But he made
- 33:07Speaker 1: a great play. The kid made a great playoff. Yeah,
- 33:09Speaker 1: I mean, he comes you can see it here. He
- 33:11Speaker 1: see him, he's there, He comes up and he comes
- 33:13Speaker 1: off this guy and makes the play. I mean, it's
- 33:15Speaker 1: a great play. I think it was well executed all
- 33:18Speaker 1: the way around. Yeah. I we were live at the time,
- 33:21Speaker 1: and I'm on the We're looking. I'm looking over on
- 33:23Speaker 1: the big screen. Next thing, we got these big screen
- 33:25Speaker 1: with all the games on it, and I made it.
- 33:28Speaker 1: I went, I went like this, I go, did he
- 33:30Speaker 1: get in? You know? And I'm on the air, but
- 33:32Speaker 1: I made the face him. One of my anchors goes,
- 33:33Speaker 1: so what do you make him face for it? I go,
- 33:35Speaker 1: because I didn't tell him, because but I said, I
- 33:37Speaker 1: just saw something on the screen over there. But they
- 33:40Speaker 1: I mean that was it's what that's actually you could
- 33:43Speaker 1: tell that's a well designed play. But the kid just
- 33:45Speaker 1: makes a great play on it. He really does. Love
- 33:47Speaker 1: makes a great play on it to get up there
- 33:49Speaker 1: and get get a part of it. Yeah, I um
- 33:54Speaker 1: going back on another offensive thought here. Travis e t
- 33:57Speaker 1: N has his first career one hundred yard game yesterday. Yes,
- 34:01Speaker 1: he fumbled inside the five. That will mar the effort,
- 34:03Speaker 1: But as a whole, what did you like about e
- 34:06Speaker 1: t N's day at the office, Pete? It was explosive.
- 34:09Speaker 1: I mean, you see that he can turn something around
- 34:13Speaker 1: the corner. I mean that's the difference between him and
- 34:15Speaker 1: James Robinson. And we'll get to that a second, but
- 34:18Speaker 1: I mean, look, there's been a passing in the Baton.
- 34:21Speaker 1: It's it's Travis e t N is the lead running
- 34:24Speaker 1: back on this football team right now and probably should be.
- 34:29Speaker 1: I don't know if they should have faced James Robinson
- 34:31Speaker 1: out entirely like they did, but e t N gives
- 34:35Speaker 1: them home run ability. Um, he gives them that home
- 34:38Speaker 1: run speed which they needed. And and so I'm I'm
- 34:42Speaker 1: I think he was impressive on Sunday. Yeah, I'm surprised
- 34:46Speaker 1: you just saying probably should be well, should be? Yeah,
- 34:51Speaker 1: I mean he's and we kind of said that for
- 34:54Speaker 1: much of the season though, We've been saying that a
- 34:56Speaker 1: long he's Do you have questions about him though, whether
- 35:00Speaker 1: he could handle that? I did. One of the pleasant
- 35:04Speaker 1: surprises for me is how powerful et N runs and
- 35:08Speaker 1: how well he runs between the tackles. If I was
- 35:10Speaker 1: gonna say anything, the reason James Robinson didn't get any
- 35:13Speaker 1: carries is because Travis Etn didn't get enough. Yeah, it
- 35:17Speaker 1: kind of got didn't away from it a little bit again,
- 35:21Speaker 1: I thought, I thought, in that's the well, the only
- 35:24Speaker 1: time I felt like they got away from it. Remember
- 35:26Speaker 1: the last drive, they have no choice, the second to
- 35:29Speaker 1: last drive first and ten Joan Taylor jumps off. Now
- 35:34Speaker 1: you're first and fifteen. I thought that's when they threw
- 35:37Speaker 1: it three straight times. I would have gone and maybe
- 35:40Speaker 1: Doug would have if they didn't jump up sides and
- 35:43Speaker 1: make it first and fifteen. Yeah, what about the first
- 35:46Speaker 1: possession of the second half? Was that three passes in
- 35:49Speaker 1: a row? Or was there a running there too? They
- 35:51Speaker 1: were three and out first possession of the second half,
- 35:55Speaker 1: you said, Pete, Yeah, a touchdown. Yeah, the state. No,
- 36:01Speaker 1: they came out and scored right away. I thought, yeah,
- 36:03Speaker 1: maybe I'm maybe, I'm maybe it wasn't the first possession. Yeah,
- 36:06Speaker 1: it was the second possession. They went three and out.
- 36:08Speaker 1: They had a big punt at the end of that.
- 36:10Speaker 1: Let's see, Yeah, what was it? What was the business? Okay,
- 36:13Speaker 1: first and ten from their own four, they were backed
- 36:15Speaker 1: up et for two yards, the t N left in
- 36:20Speaker 1: for four Lawrence incomplete deep left to Marvin Jones. Okay, yeah, Marvin,
- 36:26Speaker 1: that was the one where he was pressured and and
- 36:28Speaker 1: and yeah. So it was actually, I mean, I don't
- 36:33Speaker 1: know they got It's hard to say they got away
- 36:35Speaker 1: from it. Well, they didn't have a lot of plays. Yeah,
- 36:38Speaker 1: the Giants. The Giants had it over thirty five minutes,
- 36:42Speaker 1: but again, we go back to the same thing that's
- 36:44Speaker 1: happened with that defense in the past. They don't get
- 36:46Speaker 1: they don't get, you know, get off the field, and
- 36:49Speaker 1: that's where that's where the sacks come into play. Daniel
- 36:53Speaker 1: Jones was killing him with his legs. I mean, every
- 36:56Speaker 1: single time he looked like he needed to get a
- 36:58Speaker 1: first down, he pull it and nobody there. It's been
- 37:03Speaker 1: a bad that was bad defense by the by the guy.
- 37:06Speaker 1: And it looked like like there was one play where
- 37:10Speaker 1: they crashed down and he thought he on Barkley. Do
- 37:12Speaker 1: you remember that when he thought he was I forget
- 37:13Speaker 1: who it was. He thought he was going to tackle
- 37:15Speaker 1: him for a loss and there Daniel Jones goes out
- 37:17Speaker 1: the side door for about thirty I think it was
- 37:21Speaker 1: I would love to be in that meeting, and asked
- 37:23Speaker 1: like who had quarterback on those plays? Like, oh, I
- 37:26Speaker 1: mean you're running, don't read someone at the quarterback. You
- 37:29Speaker 1: want to stay accounting from the quarterback. I mean, it
- 37:31Speaker 1: wasn't like there was someone just not getting there. There
- 37:35Speaker 1: was nobody even close. They've had problems with that a
- 37:39Speaker 1: there's one route, but they've outs had problems with the
- 37:41Speaker 1: r P O s. This year, you know, pulling the
- 37:44Speaker 1: ball and and and throwing passes off of it. They
- 37:46Speaker 1: haven't done a good job with that. And I'm not
- 37:49Speaker 1: sure why, but they just haven't you noticed that. I mean,
- 37:53Speaker 1: there's don't even around him. Well, don't usually play that, Tony,
- 37:57Speaker 1: don't usually play that? In scray or linebacker here and
- 38:02Speaker 1: Out's either very simple. It's either the linebacker goes to
- 38:05Speaker 1: the quarterback and the uh and and goes to the
- 38:09Speaker 1: quarterback and the linebacker sits there in the hole by
- 38:14Speaker 1: the way, and the guy scraped on the top. Yeah,
- 38:17Speaker 1: and a lot of them. There was one guy there
- 38:20Speaker 1: where was nobody. I'm like, where is everybody? Yeah? That
- 38:23Speaker 1: was bad defense. And then and then there were some
- 38:26Speaker 1: bad looks there that ended up costing them to guys
- 38:30Speaker 1: when they have to use time outs because they couldn't
- 38:32Speaker 1: get enough guys on the field. That was that was
- 38:37Speaker 1: bad And naturally you've been better off of your Peters
- 38:40Speaker 1: in that case. I have ten people out there, and
- 38:41Speaker 1: let me score quicker. At that point, you only just
- 38:45Speaker 1: go score keep ten, not burning. I mean, you could
- 38:48Speaker 1: argue Pete in that situation, which which one was. That's
- 38:54Speaker 1: when they that's when they went down and scored the
- 38:58Speaker 1: touchdown to tie it up. Ten guys out there, they
- 39:03Speaker 1: call time out. Yeah, you still got to use your
- 39:06Speaker 1: time out, and that's as a joke. In the hindsight,
- 39:10Speaker 1: you would have liked to have had that time out.
- 39:12Speaker 1: Let him go, right, you know we got Look, Peterson
- 39:18Speaker 1: is a good Doug Peterson's a good football coach. It
- 39:20Speaker 1: just goes to show you that even the best of
- 39:23Speaker 1: the best sometimes need to be micromanaged. I mean, you
- 39:27Speaker 1: know me, I've criticized a couple of the short yardage calls.
- 39:29Speaker 1: I don't like the quarterback run. I hate the quarterback sweep.
- 39:32Speaker 1: I hate it. I've hated when Josh Allen does that.
- 39:35Speaker 1: I hate it when Trevor Lawrence does I hate that play.
- 39:37Speaker 1: Hate it. Why would you expose him to that? I
- 39:40Speaker 1: know it works sometimes, but why is it worth the risk?
- 39:43Speaker 1: Is that worth the risk? Is an eight yard game
- 39:46Speaker 1: worth the risk of your quarterback going down? It certainly
- 39:49Speaker 1: is not. Well, but Pete, here's the thing. This is
- 39:52Speaker 1: where you're full hot air right now. Is the biggest
- 39:56Speaker 1: risk work quarterback is not running the ball outside the pocket.
- 40:00Speaker 1: Say that's a fact. That's a fact, because you're in
- 40:05Speaker 1: their pocket many more times than you are running it. Yes,
- 40:08Speaker 1: you are dangerous a guy. If Justin Herbert throws the
- 40:12Speaker 1: ball forty times from inside the pocket and he runs
- 40:15Speaker 1: ten are there? Is there not a four to one ratio? No,
- 40:19Speaker 1: you're missing the point. No, it's not missing the beer. Yeah,
- 40:24Speaker 1: you're more likely to get hurt inside the pocket. Yeah,
- 40:27Speaker 1: because you're in there four times more. So. I didn't say.
- 40:29Speaker 1: I didn't say that more likely. I said it's more dangerous, idiot,
- 40:34Speaker 1: four to one. Yeah, it's more dangerous four to one.
- 40:37Speaker 1: You're an idiot. My wife. My wife is yelling at me,
- 40:40Speaker 1: saying that I can't talk to you that way. Yes
- 40:43Speaker 1: you can, you moron. So my my point is the
- 40:52Speaker 1: bad look is on my call, on my call, Well
- 40:57Speaker 1: you can't. I mean the first of all, did ten
- 41:00Speaker 1: one come out? Then they had twelve penalized? Hey can
- 41:06Speaker 1: we just get the eleven out there? Let's start with
- 41:08Speaker 1: the left. He come up with a name for JPS.
- 41:10Speaker 1: Waggling his paper, it's time. It's time. We're gonna take
- 41:13Speaker 1: a time out. We're up against it. We're back in
- 41:15Speaker 1: the moment. We'll look at the a f C South.
- 41:17Speaker 1: The second hour coming up in just a few minutes
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- 41:54Speaker 1: and learn more. JP Shadrick, pe Prisco, Tony Vaselli recapping
- 41:58Speaker 1: a teen ig Wars lost to the New York Giants.
- 42:02Speaker 1: Let's look around the a f C South and we
- 42:05Speaker 1: start off with Indy and Tennessee. The Titans building up
- 42:11Speaker 1: an early lead using their defense. It's read a bit quickly,
- 42:16Speaker 1: Tennis set out of ten five, it's touchdown Titans Andrew
- 42:30Speaker 1: to that is Mike Keith on Titans Radio. Randy Bullock
- 42:35Speaker 1: at four field goals. The Titans won at nineteen to
- 42:37Speaker 1: ten over the Colts and they have a stronghold on
- 42:40Speaker 1: this division. Pete, it's over divisions over, Yes, it is,
- 42:46Speaker 1: it's over. It be changed. The quarterback Matt Ryan got
- 42:49Speaker 1: Matt Ryan got benched in Indy. Yep, he's done. They're
- 42:53Speaker 1: playing Sam Ellinger. Tony, you're muted, your Mike, you're Mike
- 42:59Speaker 1: your muted again, Tony. He doesn't know how to use
- 43:02Speaker 1: anything before we say the division is a rap? What
- 43:09Speaker 1: are what's the Tennessee Titans record there? Okay, well we
- 43:17Speaker 1: are two and five, so we are technically two and
- 43:21Speaker 1: a half behind them, right right, we play them two
- 43:26Speaker 1: more times? Yeah, I mean, yeah, I get it. They've
- 43:30Speaker 1: had there, especially twice. We can be four and five,
- 43:39Speaker 1: they're five four and four, so we are a half game.
- 43:43Speaker 1: We're half game from controlling our own destiny. At my point,
- 43:48Speaker 1: it's not over. It's the Titans beat the Colts twice,
- 43:52Speaker 1: they're done. They're playing Sam Ellinger the rest of the way.
- 43:54Speaker 1: They're benching Matt Ryan even though he has a shoulder surgery.
- 43:57Speaker 1: They said, it's not that it's not shoulder injury. It's
- 43:58Speaker 1: not that it's not the shoulder that's getting them on
- 44:01Speaker 1: the bench. Um. By the way, that regime needs to
- 44:04Speaker 1: get to criticism they deserve. They've been getting a free pass.
- 44:07Speaker 1: That's a disaster. Um then you have Jacks will never
- 44:12Speaker 1: beats the Titans. So and the Texans are a non factor.
- 44:18Speaker 1: So division here we are? It is? What is it? Today?
- 44:21Speaker 1: Is October? What division over? It's done? You want me
- 44:29Speaker 1: to lock it right now? That we beat the Titans
- 44:30Speaker 1: twice a year? You do it? How many points have
- 44:36Speaker 1: you had if you're gonna lock that damn thing? I
- 44:42Speaker 1: don't like history. History is a great indicator. Beat to
- 44:46Speaker 1: your point, the Jaguars haven't won in Nashville since well,
- 44:52Speaker 1: and what's the what is the rundown? And I'm gonna
- 44:54Speaker 1: look at what it is right here? What's the rundown?
- 44:59Speaker 1: Both unlocked? Tony from across the pond with a salvo.
- 45:06Speaker 1: I'm tired. That was That was an emotional response to Peak.
- 45:10Speaker 1: I'm tired of him running his trap. Okay, here, you
- 45:19Speaker 1: gave it to Tennessee twenty and nothing Titans last year,
- 45:23Speaker 1: thirty seven, nineteen Titans, thirty one, ten Titans, thirty three,
- 45:27Speaker 1: thirty Titans, forty two, twenty Titans. I'm going into order.
- 45:30Speaker 1: Jacksonville one in nineteen seven. Here we go thirty to
- 45:35Speaker 1: nine Titans, nine six Titans, fifteen, ten Titans, sixteen, thirty
- 45:40Speaker 1: seven sixteen Titans. Wed okay, okay. And and if you
- 45:48Speaker 1: really want to go back in time, twenty to nineteen Titans,
- 45:57Speaker 1: fourteen Titans and thirty three fourteen Titans. There you go
- 46:03Speaker 1: the dagger from Pete. The Titans owned that front until
- 46:07Speaker 1: you until you stop that. I can't look at that.
- 46:12Speaker 1: Here we're stopping it? Okay? Did in seventeen they wanted division? Jackson?
- 46:19Speaker 1: Right was that seventeen? History is a great indicator. But
- 46:28Speaker 1: you're you're locking. Go ahead, say it. I want to
- 46:31Speaker 1: hear this, dude, I didn't hear this. The sound there
- 46:34Speaker 1: it is to break break. Oh he locked it. He
- 46:40Speaker 1: locked both games against Tennessee. What a way to wrap
- 46:44Speaker 1: up the first hour. Just wait, We've got another hour
- 46:47Speaker 1: of this ahead and it's Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by
- 46:51Speaker 1: Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network. You gotta
- 47:00Speaker 1: find ways to win and and just find ways to
- 47:03Speaker 1: make those plays that decide the game. You know, there's
- 47:06Speaker 1: those players are scattered throughout the game. But no matter
- 47:09Speaker 1: what happened in the prior three quarters and whatever minutes
- 47:14Speaker 1: of that fourth quarter at the very end, how can
- 47:17Speaker 1: we find ways to make those plays to win the game,
- 47:19Speaker 1: And um, we're just not We're not making enough of
- 47:22Speaker 1: those plays right now. I mean we're that close. And
- 47:25Speaker 1: UM that's what's frustrating for us too. As players. You know,
- 47:28Speaker 1: you put you put so much into it, and coaches
- 47:29Speaker 1: to obviously put so much into it, and um, to
- 47:32Speaker 1: come up that short, especially so many times earlier in
- 47:35Speaker 1: the season is it's frustrating, and everybody feels out, and um,
- 47:40Speaker 1: the guys are sticking together. I mean, we got a
- 47:41Speaker 1: lot of we got a belief, We got a lot
- 47:43Speaker 1: of belief in that locker room, and you saw it
- 47:45Speaker 1: today And I mean when we come up the yard
- 47:48Speaker 1: short variant to win and win that game by a point,
- 47:51Speaker 1: kick there's point would beat him. So it's that's how
- 47:54Speaker 1: close it is. And that's why I think you see,
- 47:56Speaker 1: um the look on the guy's faces and just the energy,
- 47:59Speaker 1: and that's the way it should be when you when
- 48:01Speaker 1: you're losing like that, you know, no one's obviously happy
- 48:03Speaker 1: about it. That's the quarterback Trevor Lawrence and welcome in.
- 48:07Speaker 1: It's the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour on Monday afternoon,
- 48:11Speaker 1: JP Shadrick, Tony Vaselli, Pete Frisco. The Jaguars have dropped
- 48:16Speaker 1: their fourth straight the final twenty three seventeen. The Giants
- 48:20Speaker 1: are now six and one. They've won four in a row.
- 48:22Speaker 1: The Jaguars are not. They've lost four in a row.
- 48:26Speaker 1: The Jaguars took a four point lead after a touchdown
- 48:29Speaker 1: on the opening drive of the second half. The game
- 48:32Speaker 1: turned though early in the fourth eleven thirty three to play,
- 48:35Speaker 1: the Jacks faced fourth and one at the Giants twenty.
- 48:38Speaker 1: Instead of the field goal to go up seven, Doug
- 48:40Speaker 1: Peterson went for it. The Jags stuffed on a sneak.
- 48:44Speaker 1: The Giants go down the field for the goal ahead touchdown,
- 48:47Speaker 1: and then they later kicked a field goal to make
- 48:49Speaker 1: it a six point game. The Jaguars rally started with
- 48:52Speaker 1: one oh four to play and no time countermaining, and
- 48:55Speaker 1: it ended one yard short of the end zone and
- 48:57Speaker 1: time ran out on them. Mistake are plaguing the Jags again,
- 49:01Speaker 1: roughing the passer from Foyer Louk and they gat at
- 49:03Speaker 1: an interception. Travis E. T and Jr. Fumbled the ball
- 49:07Speaker 1: inside the five yard line. Thirteen total penalties in the game.
- 49:11Speaker 1: And yes, again the Jags are trying to figure it out,
- 49:14Speaker 1: and this time they'll have a long plane ride to
- 49:16Speaker 1: do it. This week Wimbley Stadium under the Arch in London,
- 49:20Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos and the Jaguars both two and five.
- 49:24Speaker 1: That's what's next, Pete. When when do they travel into
- 49:28Speaker 1: London Thursday afternoon? Is that a change from when they've
- 49:33Speaker 1: been going. They'll arrive Friday morning like normal. Denver went
- 49:37Speaker 1: over today. That's a long trap from Denver. The uh no, Pete.
- 49:50Speaker 1: The first three years they played around with different combination
- 49:53Speaker 1: combinations like coming out all week. One time they came
- 49:58Speaker 1: out after the game in Cincinnati and flew from Cincinnati.
- 50:02Speaker 1: Remember that, I remember that. That was a long week.
- 50:06Speaker 1: Um So they've kind of been all over the place
- 50:09Speaker 1: a little bit. But the last one four years, five years,
- 50:14Speaker 1: they've always come over Thursday night, the normal week until
- 50:18Speaker 1: Thursday night practice. Get on the plane Thursday night, show
- 50:22Speaker 1: up Friday morning, go right to the practice, right the facility. Okay,
- 50:26Speaker 1: here's the million dollars, here's the million dollar question. How
- 50:30Speaker 1: did you travel? What do you mean how to travel?
- 50:34Speaker 1: How did you get there? On airplane? Delta. You flew private?
- 50:43Speaker 1: Who are you kidding? I? First of all, if I
- 50:48Speaker 1: flew private, I'd be bragging right now. I wasn't tired
- 50:51Speaker 1: wide awake. You know, the franchise has a long history
- 50:55Speaker 1: of sending the private plane from Miss Eli and certain
- 50:57Speaker 1: sponds across the pond. I was on my private delta flight. Now,
- 51:06Speaker 1: So where do you have to go to Alan and
- 51:08Speaker 1: over to London? Huh? Yeah that's a long day. Yeah.
- 51:12Speaker 1: But you know, just listen to everything you just said, JP.
- 51:16Speaker 1: This team finds ways to lose man and it's I
- 51:20Speaker 1: said it earlier, in the first hour. It's the exact
- 51:22Speaker 1: opposite of the Giants, who find find ways to win.
- 51:27Speaker 1: You know, I don't think I mean, I think the
- 51:29Speaker 1: Jaguar is more talented than the Giants. Yeah. Probably, But Tony,
- 51:37Speaker 1: you know what it reminds me of just listening to
- 51:40Speaker 1: the way Trevor talks and and that JP. Were you
- 51:42Speaker 1: in the locker room after the game? I was not.
- 51:44Speaker 1: I was on the air. Okay. It sounds and finding
- 51:48Speaker 1: ways to lose games and weird ways. It sounds a
- 51:51Speaker 1: lot like your ninety six team. You guys in ninety six,
- 51:56Speaker 1: do you remember you found weird ways to lose games
- 51:59Speaker 1: early in the season. What was the one in St.
- 52:01Speaker 1: Louis You had like six hundred yards of offense and yeah,
- 52:07Speaker 1: and you had no business. Then Willie Jackson didn't go
- 52:10Speaker 1: down on the last play, you would have kicked the
- 52:12Speaker 1: field goal. And then they had under twour yards of offense.
- 52:18Speaker 1: We had over almost six hundred and we lost. Yeah,
- 52:21Speaker 1: and going in and I remember the way Trevor's describing
- 52:24Speaker 1: the locker room. It was a lot like those guys
- 52:27Speaker 1: back then. You thought you were you didn't know if
- 52:30Speaker 1: you were good enough, but you know, it's stung and
- 52:32Speaker 1: it hurt and anger came out when you lost games
- 52:35Speaker 1: like that. That's what this, that's what his And I'm
- 52:37Speaker 1: not in that locker room. I wasn't that one, But
- 52:39Speaker 1: that's what the description reminds me of, which is a
- 52:42Speaker 1: good thing. Yeah. I think, um, nobody wants to hear this.
- 52:48Speaker 1: And I said it on the show this morning with
- 52:51Speaker 1: Damn and Jeff. This team could beat any team in
- 52:54Speaker 1: the NFL. Any team would not surprise me one bit.
- 52:58Speaker 1: If they go to Kansas City beat Chiefs, would beat
- 53:01Speaker 1: the Cowboys on the who else is on their schedule?
- 53:04Speaker 1: I don't. I wouldn't can take one. I can think
- 53:06Speaker 1: of one. I don't think they'll beat I think beat
- 53:09Speaker 1: the Titans twice. They're not, but I think they could.
- 53:15Speaker 1: And they're good enough to play with about flow. But
- 53:17Speaker 1: you know here, they're passer well enough to let me finish.
- 53:21Speaker 1: They can lose every team in the NFL too. Every
- 53:24Speaker 1: team the NFL can beat them because this team hasn't
- 53:28Speaker 1: learned how to win. They haven't learned how to not
- 53:31Speaker 1: beat themselves first, and until they stopped beating themselves, they're
- 53:35Speaker 1: not gonna be a good team. They're not gonna have
- 53:37Speaker 1: a good record. Right, you gotta learn how to win.
- 53:39Speaker 1: They haven't learned how to win yet. They don't know
- 53:41Speaker 1: how that feeling yet. When something goes wrong, it goes wrong,
- 53:45Speaker 1: and that's the end of it. They're not winning the game.
- 53:47Speaker 1: That's basically what it is. And look on the surface
- 53:52Speaker 1: with Trevor Lawrence did at the end of that game
- 53:54Speaker 1: to get that team in that position where it was. Now,
- 53:57Speaker 1: the guy made a bad play on the fourth down throw.
- 53:59Speaker 1: He ran it in the middle of the field, but
- 54:03Speaker 1: you got it right, and so yeah, you're right, they
- 54:07Speaker 1: haven't learned how to win. Yet So yeah, from that standpoint,
- 54:10Speaker 1: they could loose to every team in the league, and
- 54:12Speaker 1: they could win against the majority of teams in the leagues.
- 54:15Speaker 1: And I just don't think they're being buffalo. How about
- 54:19Speaker 1: how about that play at the end where et N stumbles.
- 54:23Speaker 1: If he doesn't stumble and catches that ball, I think
- 54:25Speaker 1: he might score. Just nobody over there. There's no there.
- 54:28Speaker 1: I watched it today on the tape. There's there's about
- 54:30Speaker 1: four offensive lineman over there and there's there's one guy.
- 54:33Speaker 1: All he had to do he could with his ability
- 54:35Speaker 1: to make people miss, he was gone. That was, by
- 54:38Speaker 1: the way, I'm gonna give I've criticized Doug for some
- 54:40Speaker 1: of his calls, that was one of the best ones
- 54:42Speaker 1: right there, because that was that was so well designed.
- 54:46Speaker 1: It was incredible because he made it look like he's
- 54:48Speaker 1: throwing a quick screen to the other side, and they
- 54:50Speaker 1: all went tony. Every defensive lineman went flying that way,
- 54:54Speaker 1: and there was one guy over there and about three
- 54:56Speaker 1: offensive lineman. Yeah, it was and traffic is just stumbled.
- 55:02Speaker 1: I was like, oh god, And he still almost caught
- 55:05Speaker 1: it and made a play on it, but you already stumbled.
- 55:07Speaker 1: And it was like kind of behind them a little
- 55:09Speaker 1: or high a little bit. But yeah, that was a
- 55:12Speaker 1: well designed play. Had to go to the bag for
- 55:16Speaker 1: in that moment for that play, and they nearly pulled
- 55:19Speaker 1: it off. Unfortunately it didn't work out for them. The Jags,
- 55:22Speaker 1: of course, on offense, moved the ball. They struggled in
- 55:25Speaker 1: the red zone again, two of five for the day
- 55:27Speaker 1: as the official total. They fumbled inside the five at
- 55:31Speaker 1: one point they had to settled for a field goal
- 55:34Speaker 1: in the first half. I mean, they this trend continues
- 55:38Speaker 1: in the red zone. Guys, one way or another. They
- 55:40Speaker 1: aren't getting enough points down there. It was what it was.
- 55:44Speaker 1: It's been like this. It's the preseason, guys. You remember
- 55:46Speaker 1: the preseason. Doug Peterson said he was concerned. Yeah, well,
- 55:50Speaker 1: I mean the fumble they were going to score on
- 55:53Speaker 1: that drive. He just got to hold onto the damn football.
- 55:55Speaker 1: The rest of it is a combination of the field
- 55:58Speaker 1: condensing and making the decision and is quicker and quarterback
- 56:01Speaker 1: needing to be better in the red zone. That's that's
- 56:03Speaker 1: what a lot of that is. And it's you will
- 56:07Speaker 1: be better. See I think you have to anticipate in
- 56:09Speaker 1: throw guys open, throw it to tight spaces, throw it
- 56:13Speaker 1: before they've turned coming out of their break and knowing
- 56:17Speaker 1: that it's gonna be really really tight, right and and
- 56:21Speaker 1: you know if you throw a fade, you gotta put
- 56:23Speaker 1: it up when the guy's back is to you, and
- 56:25Speaker 1: you gotta just hope that he goes up and gets it.
- 56:27Speaker 1: You gotta trust your guys, and particularly for a young quarterback,
- 56:32Speaker 1: that's hard to do because you're used to coming out
- 56:33Speaker 1: of college where guys are wide open. You know, we
- 56:36Speaker 1: don't have to trust them. So that that's and the
- 56:38Speaker 1: field condenses and you know, Tony, everybody plays that across
- 56:41Speaker 1: the goal line defense, So you gotta that's why the
- 56:44Speaker 1: holes are so tight on the goal line. You know,
- 56:47Speaker 1: you gotta squeeze him in and he'll get better at it.
- 56:52Speaker 1: It's not that he's awful at it's just he's not
- 56:54Speaker 1: good at great at it yet. So that'll that'll happen
- 56:57Speaker 1: take some time, and that will take a time out,
- 57:00Speaker 1: and we'll come back and keep it real with the
- 57:02Speaker 1: Jaguars defense and running quarterbacks. Yesterday Daniel Jones ran all
- 57:08Speaker 1: over the Jaguars. We'll get to some reasons why when
- 57:12Speaker 1: we keep it real when we return Jaguars game Day
- 57:14Speaker 1: Radio is brought to you by by Start Credit Union,
- 57:17Speaker 1: Do Good, Bank Better and it's Jaguars Happy Hour on
- 57:20Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. I think it depends on the
- 57:29Speaker 1: call defensive call, because there's there's different ways you can
- 57:33Speaker 1: defend it, right, I mean you can you can you
- 57:35Speaker 1: can bend the defensive end and scrape the linebacker, or
- 57:38Speaker 1: you can you know, you can charge the defensive end.
- 57:41Speaker 1: And there's many different ways that you can play with
- 57:43Speaker 1: the safety there. You can play corners there. There's a
- 57:45Speaker 1: lot of different ways you can um play defense there.
- 57:48Speaker 1: So it's just all about the communication and and understanding.
- 57:51Speaker 1: Again just goes back to understanding, you know, the the
- 57:54Speaker 1: your role, understanding the call um the nuances of you know,
- 58:00Speaker 1: different adjustments that offense might make that a defense has
- 58:03Speaker 1: to make. Um. But again credit credit to giants. I
- 58:06Speaker 1: mean they took advantage of of some opportunities there and
- 58:10Speaker 1: and then hit us for some chemi runs. You have
- 58:13Speaker 1: a Doug Peterson earlier today and welcome back. It's Jaguars
- 58:16Speaker 1: Happy Hour on the Quarterback Runs. It's time to keep
- 58:20Speaker 1: it Real presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi. Open Up
- 58:23Speaker 1: a winner today. Really ingredients award winning one by Robert Mundavi,
- 58:28Speaker 1: and the topic is those quarterback runs Daniel Jones eleven
- 58:31Speaker 1: carries one hundred seven yards and a touchdown, career highs
- 58:36Speaker 1: and rushing attempts and rushing yards and of course a
- 58:39Speaker 1: major reason why the Jaguars lost. Why and how is
- 58:43Speaker 1: he so effective? And how in the hell do you
- 58:46Speaker 1: stop this? Moving ahead? Tony Well, Doug just talked about it.
- 58:51Speaker 1: He's exactly right. There's several defenses. It's it's it's a scheme,
- 58:55Speaker 1: like inside, what scheme you want? Do you want to
- 58:57Speaker 1: crash the end, scrape the linebacker, you want to end,
- 58:59Speaker 1: work up the field, keep the linebacker, take the tailback,
- 59:03Speaker 1: you want to drop your safety down corners. There's fifty
- 59:05Speaker 1: ways you can do it. Just do it one way.
- 59:07Speaker 1: I don't care which way. But they weren't on the
- 59:10Speaker 1: same page yesterday. What was concerning was it wasn't like
- 59:13Speaker 1: guys were missing, there was nobody there. It's like they
- 59:17Speaker 1: didn't know the zone read was coming, which I know
- 59:21Speaker 1: they did. I gotta believe they worked on it. It's
- 59:24Speaker 1: like there's no one talking back there. Were they not communicating?
- 59:29Speaker 1: Did they not come to the sideline when he had
- 59:31Speaker 1: fifty yards and say, okay, let's not let him get
- 59:33Speaker 1: another fifty seven. I mean, I don't know. It's all
- 59:36Speaker 1: questions I'd love to ask if I was in the
- 59:38Speaker 1: United States, asked Doug right now, says, at any for
- 59:41Speaker 1: my call, At any point do we say, okay, I'll
- 59:45Speaker 1: tell you a great story. I'm not gonna tell you
- 59:48Speaker 1: the player's name because he ended up. I'm not gonna
- 59:52Speaker 1: say his name, but we I'm playing at USC my
- 59:55Speaker 1: junior year and we were playing UM North Carolina the
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: Kickoff Classic in Anaheim, and they um AT two big backs.
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: It was the year after Natron left or maybe Natron
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: I can't remember, it doesn't matter. And they're a good team.
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: We're a pretty good team and we're playing them and
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: they used to come out and start running the triple option. Okay.
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: So they say on the sidelines, we hadn't worked on
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: it all at all because they've not shown it here before.
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: They say, okay, hey, linebacker, you have quarterbacks, Uh, you
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: have quarterback safety of the pitch and uh and whoever
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: has the died Okay, So we go through it. They're
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: just gashing us and the running back. It's just pitching
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: it and pitching it to these running backs that are
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: going for a hundred yards beat in the first half.
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: So finally we get to this halftime and they're like,
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: so and so you have the pitch, and he goes,
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: I have I've been going to the pitch every Why
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Like, what are you talking about?
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: They have a tony yard dressing in the first half.
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: He goes, well, I've been going to the pitch. I've
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: been I've been going I've been hitting the quarterback. This
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: kid thought that when our our coaches says you have
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: the pitch, he thought that he literally had the guy
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: who's pitching the ball, not the guy who got the ball.
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: I tell that story only because that's what it looked
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: like yesterday. It was like there's some miscommunication and Pete,
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: you watched the film, but there was nobody around Daniel
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: Jones half the time. No, but he also um got
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: loose on that scramble because what happened was a lu
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: Khan took an inside route and the end went up
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: the field. So yeah, I mean, they didn't do a
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: good job of containing the quarterback at all, but on
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: the zone reads a few times it looked like nobody
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: was there. Now, that's what it looked like live. I
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: didn't see the tape. Was there someone who missed tackles
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: Pete or they just weren't there, they got caught inside,
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: had a bunch with nobody there. Yeah, they were there.
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: So was it Willie mcguinnis? Was it Sammy Knight? I
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: can tell you, I could. I can tell you that
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: I could sell your North Carolinlan kind of look at
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: the roster trying to figure out who it is. But
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: they you know who had a big pass catch in
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: that game, Bucky, Yeah, that's right. Uh. North Carolina ran
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: for two yards in that game, by the way. It
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: was the Pigskin Classic. Wasn't the kickoff Classic by the way.
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: But anyways, because are one of our players thought when
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: the coach had you have the pitch, well you said,
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: he went on, he went on somewhere and Brian Kelly, No, couldn't. Okay,
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: it had to be somebody that played the NFL, And
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out who that would be. So
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: I don't I don't this this doesn't list all the
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: all the starters, but well we'll figure out who that.
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: We're gonna figure just name the man. But that's what
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: I mean. Watching yesterday Live and again I didn't watch
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: the tape, it's like, oh my gosh, like someone hit
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: this kid please now. On the one big run, it
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: was just saying the blitz and they got out of
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: the lanes and Daniel took off and then like see
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: you later. That can happen. Happens a lot of teams.
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: And then they had one play where they did the
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: bootleg and he's different. That's right. He's talking about he's
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: a good runner. He's a good runner. I'm talking about
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: the handful of his own reads where he kept it
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: and there's nobody there like one of them. I think
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: it was smooth. He thought he made the tackle. There's
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, Jones running out the backside for you know,
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: holy cow, Oh my god. I just figured you just
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: threw Jeff Cop under the bus. Jeff, you're not gonna
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: get it. Wasn't Darryl Russell, was it. Oh he's a friend,
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: I know. Trying to figure out who that could be.
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: I'm looking at this rock. Did the guy play in
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: the NFL? He did play in the NFL. We'll figure
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: it out. I really believe he just threw Jeff coppon
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: to the bus, but he just doesn't want to say. So.
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: There you have it. Keeping It Real presented by Woodbridge
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: by Robert bon Davie opened up a winner today, Real
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: Ingredients Award Winning Wine by Robert mun David. We'll have
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: to um continue pete search on the Trojan's roster of
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: right not ninety four. Yeah, we're back in a moment
- 1:04:50Speaker 1: and h we'll get some social media questions, fanatics, fan questions,
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: in fact, what a show. It's been a Jaguars happy
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: hour on the Jaguars digital net work. It's frustrating. Um,
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: you know, But the thing is to the guys. The
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: guys know, I mean, that's the thing about it. They've
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: played a lot of football. They understand when the mistakes
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: you made, and you know, it's uh, you know, it's
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: on us as coaches to make sure that they that
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: they not want they understand, but too that we we
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: helped fix it right and we helped correct and give
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: them the answers. So that falls on the coaches, you know,
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: and and then the players having to execute the game
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: plan and knowing their assignments. You know, that part of
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: it's on them, you know. So that's why it's a
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: two way street. But you know, these mistakes have kind
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: of kept us from winning winning these close games. That's
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: head coach Chuck Peterson earlier today. The full press conference
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: available on Jaguars dot Com. J P Shadrick, Pete, Frisco,
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: Tony Boselli, fanatics, fan questions coming up. I found I
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: found an article Pete from the l A Times of
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: that I figured it out. I figured it out. I
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: think Tony just did to this guy worse than what
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: his own team did in the NFL when they made
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: him return a kick. Am I right? Uh? Am I right?
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: I think I'm right, little cornerback, safety corner, slash corner. No,
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you. I'm not gonna tell you what.
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: What do you have? No idea what you're talking about? What? JP?
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: What did the l A Time? So here's a quote
- 1:06:39Speaker 1: from John Robinson, who was that your entrinement, of course,
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: and was a true gentleman, very nice, the great coach
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: of of USC He said, quote absolutely, he said, quote
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: they wanted to play that option until we stopped it,
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: and we still haven't stopped it. He said it was
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: a basic standard option play and we just didn't defend it,
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: and then Mac round, the North Carolina coach said his
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: team stuck with option players to stay out of USC
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: defenseman William McGuinness way quote, he's one of the best
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: in the country, and we felt we had to neutralize him,
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: he said, So that's what I have. I don't know
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: if that's mcguinnis or or Jason Shorn. Yes, it has
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: to be, because the only the only guys from that
- 1:07:22Speaker 1: team that played on the defensive side of the ball
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: in the NFL, and Cop Cop played. Brian Kelly played right.
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: Brian Kelly, you said no one Brian Kelly, keep listening
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: to sam Samy Night played right. Okay, but I named
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: them all and you said no to all of them.
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: And uh, Brian, Brian Williams, outside linebacker played for. He
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: played for the fact, that's who it was. Darryl Russell,
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: defensive lineman for played Yeah, he would had he wouldn't
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: have had to pitch the pitch play though, So we
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: narrowed it down to either Sammy Night, William mcguinnist, Brian Williams,
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: or And I don't know if the with the corner
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: when it's one of those, it's got somebody up there
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: near the line. So hey, say, okay, say the name
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: is going I'll tell you you said the name or not.
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: Mcguinnist night, Seahorn Williams. Maybe there's all right. We've got
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: another break coming up in a little bit years ago.
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: What do you care. There's gotta be a video clip.
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: I'm gonna dig during the next time out and see
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: if I can find some video and Bucky, I'll tell us. Right, alright,
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: let's go. We have fan questions questions on jag Warris
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- 1:09:01Speaker 1: We put the Cats signal out on Twitter earlier today.
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: Here's the best we came up with at r j
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: ware eight nine. What is the major thing holding this
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: team back? Like Tony said, learning how to win? You
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: gotta learn how to win. If you do not understand
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: what it takes to win games, every time it goes bad,
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: you're gonna lose that game. Learning how to win simple enough,
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: agree great things. You gotta learn to win football games.
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: You gotta make This team doesn't make plays when it
- 1:09:36Speaker 1: has to well, it's a stop when it's a big
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: play a first down. But again I go back to you,
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: guys didn't either, and then you learned. Suddenly you learned
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: how to do it. It's if we're a young team,
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: it has to happen, and when it happens, then it
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: will stay that way. But they haven't learned that yet.
- 1:09:55Speaker 1: Next question at jacks Kito, how does losing close games
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: get it fixed? Leaders in the locker room, coach speeches,
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: eventually sorting itself out. Belief in individual belief. Confidence, you
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: gotta believe. I don't believe any speech is gonna make
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: you have confidence. That's got to come from Oh An, Tony.
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: Always go back to a story you told me, and
- 1:10:22Speaker 1: I think it's a great story. The week leaning up
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: into playing Bruce Smith, you were terrified and the first
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: time you played him and you said the very first
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: the very first play, you were backed up in your
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: own end and you threw them down on the ground
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: and he said, oh I can do this. There was
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: your belief, and that's what this team needs to get to.
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: They need to have that belief that they're that good
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: and they can find a way to win games. And
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: they were coming back and they're not gonna make the
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: stupid mistakes. It all comes back to that you have
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: to have belief and confidence in yourself. Speech is gonna
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: do that for you. No, No, you gotta go play
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: and and figure it out. But it's not about a speech.
- 1:11:02Speaker 1: It's about the right leadership. I do think coaches and
- 1:11:05Speaker 1: leadership matters. It matters, but it doesn't need to be
- 1:11:09Speaker 1: raw rods. You know it's gotta be. Look, you guys
- 1:11:12Speaker 1: are good enough. Go believe in yourselves. That's what has
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: to be and cut out the craft and dumb stuff
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: you do. They do a lot of dumb things. Next
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: question at Lucas Stewart, how much does the lack of
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: a true number one receiver stand out to you guys
- 1:11:28Speaker 1: on film or Live zero. No, they need one, though,
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: But I think, and I'll say this, First of all,
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: you're not going to get one unless you draft one, right,
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: you gotta draft one. But the offensive scheme helps make
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: guys get open. I I love that. I love the
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: design of the offense. I'm I'm not ever gonna take
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: anything away from Doug for that because I love his offense.
- 1:11:54Speaker 1: But if you have a real number one and making
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: a lot of like Tony those shots we were talking
- 1:11:59Speaker 1: about where they max protected, send two guys out in
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: the route. A number one receiver wins that and you
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: get that shot down the field. They didn't win that, Yeah,
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: but I'll say this, Christian Kirk did win. And Trevor
- 1:12:10Speaker 1: Lawrence didn't pull the trigger one time. He had him
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: on one on one a deep over route and he
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: had the whole middle of the field wide open, and
- 1:12:17Speaker 1: he could have thrown to Christian Kirk against Dori Jackson.
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: He didn't do it. So and if you guys don't
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: think Christian Kirk said number one, Okay, I'm not gonna
- 1:12:28Speaker 1: argue that with that's my point. I don't want to
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: argue that. But my point is you're not getting the
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: number one receiver if you don't think Christian Kirk is
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: because you're paying him like a number one unless you
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: find you got a draft a guy got drafted guy, right,
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: that's right. Next question at please help my team. How
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: concerning is this pass rush? Is this something we should
- 1:12:51Speaker 1: address this offseason even though we did significantly this year. No,
- 1:12:56Speaker 1: you shouldn't address it. You haven't the first overall pick
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: in the draft. And you have a guy that was
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: taken in the top ten. If they can't solve it,
- 1:13:05Speaker 1: then you've got a problem. They gotta figure out Traymon
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: Walker needs to figure out how to rush the pastor
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: with some pass rush moves. And like Tony said, Josh
- 1:13:12Speaker 1: Allen Sacks will come. He's been playing actually pretty good football. Yeah,
- 1:13:17Speaker 1: I mean I don't know. Um. By the way, Aidan
- 1:13:19Speaker 1: Hutchinson had one and a half now he has four
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: and a half on the year, just saying what do
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: you think of Thibodeaux. Yeah, it wasn't great. He started
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: coming on later in the game though, as you can see,
- 1:13:31Speaker 1: started playing better. He's athletic. Well, first of all, he
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: the only pressure he got was against Camp. He went
- 1:13:38Speaker 1: inside the cam has no right He had no right arm.
- 1:13:42Speaker 1: This is he heard his right shoulder. So he's played
- 1:13:45Speaker 1: one armed out there. He got two pressures, by the way,
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: I figure with the other one. But he had to
- 1:13:54Speaker 1: Our next question that shag underscore Howard. As a fan
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: of James Robinson, is there any more news than why
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: didn't play or what's gonna happen with him? Well, I'll
- 1:14:02Speaker 1: start with this answer. Doug Peterson said this afternoon that
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: there was some lower bodies, some knee sore nows, something
- 1:14:08Speaker 1: like that was happening during the game. And that's why
- 1:14:12Speaker 1: I didn't get a lot of look. But wait, wait, wait, wait,
- 1:14:15Speaker 1: wait wait, what was the what when it wasn't the
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: second quarter when he ran the wheel route and Trevor
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: missed him. I don't know, just Tony, do you remember
- 1:14:25Speaker 1: that play when he ran the wheel route and he
- 1:14:27Speaker 1: missed him down the sideline? That's second quarter? So when
- 1:14:30Speaker 1: did he hurt the nat? The nice sortists, I think that.
- 1:14:33Speaker 1: I just think they've gone in a different direction. They
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: don't want to say because he's such a good kid
- 1:14:36Speaker 1: and been around here for a while. But okay, let's
- 1:14:40Speaker 1: be real. He should get a couple of Garys just
- 1:14:42Speaker 1: to take right. I mean, he's got to get some work,
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: not I not an only gets fourteen carries the only
- 1:14:49Speaker 1: four that's true? No, all right, okay, et n get
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: him give him. Yes, I could argue this though on
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: that third one. Is James Robinson a better short artist
- 1:15:04Speaker 1: back then? At the end? Yes, I think he is.
- 1:15:08Speaker 1: He was the way that was played. He wouldn't get
- 1:15:10Speaker 1: it either, Oh, I think he would have. He rarely
- 1:15:14Speaker 1: guy tagging him from behind. Ton'ty. He came down the
- 1:15:17Speaker 1: line and made the play. He tackled him from behind.
- 1:15:21Speaker 1: Good point. I don't know why I'm arguing that, it's
- 1:15:23Speaker 1: who knows. I'm just saying I think at this point
- 1:15:26Speaker 1: James Robinson is a better short artist. Factor, what is
- 1:15:28Speaker 1: James Robinson's role going forward? Make that prediction. He is
- 1:15:33Speaker 1: the backup running back who will be will spot k
- 1:15:36Speaker 1: n and will be on certain packages more than Hasty.
- 1:15:43Speaker 1: I think they'll both out of their own packages. But
- 1:15:45Speaker 1: if you have so many, this is my point. If
- 1:15:50Speaker 1: it comes down who's the backup? Robinson's the backup, but
- 1:15:53Speaker 1: Hasty will have a couple has a couple of packages
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: that they're going to use the mom would you consider
- 1:15:59Speaker 1: peddling Tames Robinson to a team back like the Jets?
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: You wouldn't know what am I gonna get for him?
- 1:16:07Speaker 1: What are they going to give him? Pete, Well, they
- 1:16:09Speaker 1: just lost their starting running backs, so they might be
- 1:16:11Speaker 1: interested in giving you something for him. What what are
- 1:16:14Speaker 1: they going to give for Jim Drums. I'm just to
- 1:16:16Speaker 1: be I'm not being there. I'm not I'm not yea.
- 1:16:19Speaker 1: I wouldn't know what if it went to a three?
- 1:16:25Speaker 1: Was playtime incentives? Like you put some incentives in there
- 1:16:29Speaker 1: and say if he gets you know already said three,
- 1:16:32Speaker 1: I already said yes. And I just want to see.
- 1:16:35Speaker 1: I just want to see how far are you well
- 1:16:37Speaker 1: your goat? Where where you will go with it? Have
- 1:16:41Speaker 1: you had me at hello? Our final fan question tonight
- 1:16:46Speaker 1: from at Mason Evans, Well, I know it's tough to defin,
- 1:16:50Speaker 1: but how do we continue to look so lost against
- 1:16:52Speaker 1: our pos? The film is out there, so we have
- 1:16:55Speaker 1: to know teams you're going to keep using it against us.
- 1:16:57Speaker 1: And we've talked this a good bit to night. But
- 1:17:01Speaker 1: that's also a good point at the end. I mean,
- 1:17:02Speaker 1: this is not there's a lot of football left and
- 1:17:05Speaker 1: everybody's looking at this tape right, Yeah, but there's not
- 1:17:09Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks that run that either. I mean
- 1:17:12Speaker 1: there's there are more and more doing it. I mean,
- 1:17:15Speaker 1: but the r pos you can run, but you gotta
- 1:17:18Speaker 1: have a threat to run the football though, I mean
- 1:17:20Speaker 1: the quarterback has to run a little bit too. You
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: let who's killed r pos? Why don't we say we're
- 1:17:27Speaker 1: struggling r pos? Well? Because outside of outside of the Eagles, Yeah, Philly.
- 1:17:35Speaker 1: I thought they'd be I thought the Eagles is being
- 1:17:37Speaker 1: a straight up beat Well, I mean Matt Ryan ran
- 1:17:39Speaker 1: a lot of RPOs last week when he when he
- 1:17:42Speaker 1: when they showed the run out of the pistol, he
- 1:17:44Speaker 1: pulls it and throws the little short passes. I mean,
- 1:17:47Speaker 1: think about thinking about that for a second. Matt Ryan
- 1:17:49Speaker 1: has essentially been bench and he through for three ninety
- 1:17:52Speaker 1: or whatever. Last week I thought the same I thought
- 1:17:57Speaker 1: the same thing when I read that that he was
- 1:17:59Speaker 1: getting banned to my holy cal has this gape beat
- 1:18:02Speaker 1: us last week? Oh my god? And went down the
- 1:18:04Speaker 1: field in the closing seconds. I mean, that should never
- 1:18:07Speaker 1: have happened. You know, part of the reason what the
- 1:18:11Speaker 1: r p O is their their linebackers are so aggressive
- 1:18:15Speaker 1: that they get sucked up a lot and those r
- 1:18:19Speaker 1: p O s and so you just throw it over
- 1:18:20Speaker 1: the top and and they've been hitting the flat a
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: bunch two on those there's the crossers have killed them.
- 1:18:30Speaker 1: That's true. Hey, Pete said you brought our linebackers. I
- 1:18:33Speaker 1: don't let me ask you a question only because I
- 1:18:35Speaker 1: don't know you made me think of this. Have you
- 1:18:37Speaker 1: ever watching the Steelers at all? Yeah? How is uh,
- 1:18:43Speaker 1: Miles jack Plan, Okay, just okay, just okay, nothing special,
- 1:18:53Speaker 1: I mean, curious anything, But but they have a lot
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: of money invested in this line and that that's free
- 1:19:00Speaker 1: agent linebacker. And then I'm not saying to change. I'm
- 1:19:02Speaker 1: not making challenges here. He made me think of because
- 1:19:05Speaker 1: I was thinking, we have two new linebackers, which led
- 1:19:07Speaker 1: me to think of how your line question, here's one
- 1:19:12Speaker 1: for you. What if they had used movements pick on
- 1:19:15Speaker 1: something else. I mean, basically, you got nothing out of
- 1:19:18Speaker 1: that guy. It's only the one year. Let's fast forward
- 1:19:25Speaker 1: the next year. Who's he taking? Whose job has he taken?
- 1:19:27Speaker 1: Next year? Well, don't ask hard questions. But I didn't
- 1:19:37Speaker 1: like to pick. When they made it, he was not
- 1:19:39Speaker 1: if if I thought it was, I thought it was.
- 1:19:41Speaker 1: I thought it was an interesting pier. I didn't understand
- 1:19:44Speaker 1: it here. If you paid the free agent all that
- 1:19:46Speaker 1: money you drafted Devn Lloyd that went back in to
- 1:19:48Speaker 1: go draft Devon Lloyd, then that means you're drafting movement.
- 1:19:50Speaker 1: He's not gonna play for a couple of years at least,
- 1:19:53Speaker 1: you guy, I didn't understand that pick. Don't ask the
- 1:19:58Speaker 1: tough questions. I'm putting you in the GMC though I
- 1:20:02Speaker 1: was being sarcastic, You idiot would take no no. I
- 1:20:07Speaker 1: would not have. Of course, neither would I. Tony would
- 1:20:09Speaker 1: melt under questioning from the media. You can meet. You
- 1:20:13Speaker 1: would be the biggest baby in man me. I owned
- 1:20:18Speaker 1: the media. I used to own the media when I
- 1:20:20Speaker 1: was a player. I had I had JP. I have
- 1:20:23Speaker 1: beat backpedaling. Please never backpedaled. I never backpedaled. Why would I.
- 1:20:30Speaker 1: Why would I be backpedaling from you? You gave me
- 1:20:32Speaker 1: all my information? Why would I backpedal? You were my source?
- 1:20:36Speaker 1: Deep row my stories, deep row row whatever. I love it. Hey,
- 1:20:44Speaker 1: by the way, Pete, do you still have your Southern
- 1:20:47Speaker 1: cal roster up in front of you? I think I've
- 1:20:49Speaker 1: narrowed it down to two culprits on the video video
- 1:20:53Speaker 1: not online. It's hard to find. It was so long ago,
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: nobody really cares. But go ahead. So the video I
- 1:20:58Speaker 1: saw online, there's one you to like, highlight video of
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: that game with you and c stuff. But they only
- 1:21:03Speaker 1: showed one or two option plays, and I have it
- 1:21:06Speaker 1: down to either fifty five or eighteen. Whoever those guys are.
- 1:21:10Speaker 1: Mcguinnis okay, so it may not be him. Maybe it's eighteen.
- 1:21:15Speaker 1: He was kind of a corner eight team. Looked like
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: he was a smaller guy. He missed on one touchdown
- 1:21:22Speaker 1: run that's for sure. That he crashed in and it
- 1:21:24Speaker 1: was just an easy pitch. The guy's ten yards open.
- 1:21:28Speaker 1: I don't know what what number did Sehorn wear at USC?
- 1:21:32Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. It's hard to find
- 1:21:34Speaker 1: that roster tough. Yeah, it's a long time ago, that's
- 1:21:38Speaker 1: for sure. Um, we'll take it. Was not. It was not.
- 1:21:43Speaker 1: William mcguinnis well here, all right, let's take a time out.
- 1:21:50Speaker 1: We'll find it during the break. We'll come back in
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: a moment. We'll go around the league. We'll try to
- 1:21:53Speaker 1: get the answer, even though Tony won't tell us any names.
- 1:21:57Speaker 1: This is Jaguar's Happy Hour on the Jaguar Digital Network.
- 1:22:05Speaker 1: Welcome back, It's Jaguar's Happy Our j P Shadrick, Pete Prisco,
- 1:22:09Speaker 1: Tony Basselly. We continue our search through the footage of
- 1:22:15Speaker 1: it's Jason. I just watched the option play. He scored
- 1:22:18Speaker 1: the touchdown, he crashed down the pitch man, it's Jason Shorn.
- 1:22:24Speaker 1: And by the way, as you play that highlight, did
- 1:22:27Speaker 1: you play it all the way through JP. Did you
- 1:22:30Speaker 1: see number seventy one on North Carolina come up the
- 1:22:33Speaker 1: field and get a sack and Basselly blocked down and
- 1:22:36Speaker 1: then he put his hands up and went like he
- 1:22:38Speaker 1: was what are we doing here? Do you remember? That
- 1:22:43Speaker 1: was not my guy? You you blocked down and nobody
- 1:22:46Speaker 1: blocked that guy and you as soon as he hit
- 1:22:48Speaker 1: the quarterback, you like threw your hands up in the
- 1:22:50Speaker 1: air like, what the hell is going on? What was
- 1:22:53Speaker 1: Who's responsible for that? I actually don't really remember. I
- 1:22:59Speaker 1: really don't. Well as I know it's your there's a
- 1:23:02Speaker 1: picture if I if I freezed it, there's a picture
- 1:23:05Speaker 1: you blocked down and there's nobody out there and you
- 1:23:09Speaker 1: put your hand you went like this. It was probably
- 1:23:12Speaker 1: naked and they came shared the field. No, it's not
- 1:23:16Speaker 1: a naked he says, dropped back position. But the tight
- 1:23:18Speaker 1: end is on your side. He releases the end, comes
- 1:23:22Speaker 1: outside and you don't block him, and you put your
- 1:23:24Speaker 1: hands up and look at somebody on the line and
- 1:23:26Speaker 1: got blocked down. Yes, you looked inside and then came
- 1:23:31Speaker 1: back outside. By that time, it was too late. Tight
- 1:23:35Speaker 1: end and who's the tight end? So needles to say
- 1:23:38Speaker 1: as We looked for Jason Sehorn, who is the culprit.
- 1:23:42Speaker 1: We figured that out. We found we found better, but
- 1:23:46Speaker 1: we found better material. Tony trying to blame somebody else.
- 1:23:50Speaker 1: If the show is only only one hour, would have
- 1:23:53Speaker 1: never had it. But now, isn't that great? I found it?
- 1:23:57Speaker 1: And then and then I look at it. He's blaming
- 1:24:00Speaker 1: somebody else. It's not First of all, it's not true.
- 1:24:04Speaker 1: It is true. I'm watching it. I just watched the
- 1:24:07Speaker 1: high on YouTube. The sack happened. You look inside to
- 1:24:10Speaker 1: somebody else and would you like this with your hands
- 1:24:12Speaker 1: in the here? Let me ask you a question. Let
- 1:24:13Speaker 1: me ask you a question. Was there a was there
- 1:24:17Speaker 1: a guy walked up to it might have been a
- 1:24:19Speaker 1: scout where I was blocking down And then and uh,
- 1:24:25Speaker 1: it's on the goal line. It's years ago. How do
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: you remember this? The tight end releases, the linebacker stunts.
- 1:24:33Speaker 1: He's over you, but he slants inside on the guard
- 1:24:36Speaker 1: and you take a step inside and then can't get
- 1:24:39Speaker 1: back outside on the other guy. You put your hands
- 1:24:44Speaker 1: up and you actually look at somebody. You go like
- 1:24:46Speaker 1: that like the emo, like you hands up emoji, like
- 1:24:49Speaker 1: I don't know, like this, it's like this it's it's incredible.
- 1:24:53Speaker 1: You know what, if I was the coach, I would
- 1:24:56Speaker 1: have ripped me for even if it wasn't my fault.
- 1:24:59Speaker 1: I I hated people, and obviously I was one of
- 1:25:02Speaker 1: them who did like that. I don't know, Like what happened?
- 1:25:06Speaker 1: What were you were? Sophomore this year? You know, junior
- 1:25:09Speaker 1: this year? Yeah, alright, mystery solved. First all I cannot
- 1:25:18Speaker 1: I will not confirm, but you guys got it right well.
- 1:25:25Speaker 1: In the end, Bill take the pitch the quarterback, and
- 1:25:27Speaker 1: then we took the pitch guy. And guess what the
- 1:25:29Speaker 1: corner is supposed to say outside I'm guessing, yeah, he took.
- 1:25:33Speaker 1: He took the quarterback because he thought that he was
- 1:25:35Speaker 1: supposed to take him. On every place that I take
- 1:25:37Speaker 1: the pitch guy, the guy won't. There was nobody there.
- 1:25:40Speaker 1: He pitched Tooby walked in. I don't know. I'll say this.
- 1:25:46Speaker 1: Let me say this about Jason Shorn. One of the
- 1:25:48Speaker 1: best athletes I ever played football with. He would have
- 1:25:51Speaker 1: been had he not torn up his knee. He would
- 1:25:53Speaker 1: have been a good corner head. That dude could dunk too.
- 1:26:00Speaker 1: Was amazing athlete. He crashed down really fast. I'll say
- 1:26:05Speaker 1: that Let's go around the n It was quick. Let's
- 1:26:10Speaker 1: go around the football league. Then like some other yeah,
- 1:26:15Speaker 1: some of the other Trojans. First of all, you didn't
- 1:26:18Speaker 1: even know what I was saying. I could have been
- 1:26:19Speaker 1: frustrated at myself on the play call. I could have
- 1:26:22Speaker 1: been you looked inside to where the level linemen were
- 1:26:26Speaker 1: standing in. What it is? Video evidence? Video evidence? You're
- 1:26:33Speaker 1: making up? The Panthers over the Bucketeers. I get right.
- 1:26:37Speaker 1: Game for the Panthers. What in the world was that
- 1:26:41Speaker 1: which they scored twenty three? Was it? Yeah? Three? I
- 1:26:45Speaker 1: three points? Think about that? Three points. They're try for
- 1:26:52Speaker 1: first in the division though, Yeah, but they're in trouble.
- 1:26:56Speaker 1: The division stinks. Bengals. The problem with the Buccaneers. The
- 1:27:01Speaker 1: offensive line is terrible. Yeah, there you go, Bengals over
- 1:27:06Speaker 1: the Falcons. Thirty five seventeen. Cowboys whacked the Lions. Six
- 1:27:10Speaker 1: Commanders beat the Packers one. What's up with the pack
- 1:27:14Speaker 1: I asked this every week, Pete. Think about Aaron Rodgers
- 1:27:17Speaker 1: too from under two yards and lost the tailor him
- 1:27:19Speaker 1: Nicky and Tom Brady scored three points and lost the
- 1:27:22Speaker 1: p J Walker? What the hell is going on in
- 1:27:24Speaker 1: this league? Packers have no receivers he trust zero none,
- 1:27:28Speaker 1: And that's a problem the Jets and the Broncos and
- 1:27:32Speaker 1: the New York Jets keep finding away. It takes the
- 1:27:37Speaker 1: snap toss, sweep to the left, al with blockers and
- 1:27:40Speaker 1: fun as a crease tot to the fifty left, sidelock.
- 1:27:42Speaker 1: Corty down a sidelot. He's gone twenty ten five touchdown
- 1:27:49Speaker 1: praise hall House called the Jets take the league. That's
- 1:27:52Speaker 1: Bob was using on ESPN Jets Radio Network midway through
- 1:27:56Speaker 1: the front quarter, last touchdown. Yeah, he's out for the season.
- 1:28:02Speaker 1: That's bad. That's bad. Not only that they lost Elijah
- 1:28:05Speaker 1: their tucker for the year as well. Yeah, that's bad
- 1:28:09Speaker 1: for the Jets because they were playing good football. Robert
- 1:28:11Speaker 1: Sala had been playing good, hard, sound, fundamental football. They did,
- 1:28:17Speaker 1: no doubt le Broncos next week against the Jaguars. The
- 1:28:20Speaker 1: Broncos can't score and they don't have a quarterback right now.
- 1:28:25Speaker 1: Is Russell Wilsons be gonna play this week? Who knows?
- 1:28:29Speaker 1: I mean, who knows that guy? Who knows? You could
- 1:28:33Speaker 1: you could just tell them get fired before the end
- 1:28:39Speaker 1: of the season. Well, you gotta think there's a new
- 1:28:41Speaker 1: ownership group that didn't hire him. A wealthy new ownership
- 1:28:46Speaker 1: group that didn't hire him in the Walton family, So
- 1:28:51Speaker 1: it's possible. Is he in Over's head. I mean, I
- 1:28:57Speaker 1: haven't watched enough. I don't know. There's some ball things
- 1:29:01Speaker 1: I heard. They're sloppy with their play calling, getting plays
- 1:29:05Speaker 1: out on time, people penalty decisions. The defense is good.
- 1:29:10Speaker 1: The defense can play. It's just the offense has issues.
- 1:29:15Speaker 1: Defense was good with the last coach. I mean, they
- 1:29:17Speaker 1: had a great defensive coach. Vantage it was the hell
- 1:29:19Speaker 1: of the defensive coach. The Raiders running back Josh Jacobs
- 1:29:24Speaker 1: getting it done for the Silver and Black against the Texans.
- 1:29:27Speaker 1: He's in the slot to the rights stead It's a
- 1:29:29Speaker 1: hand off into the belly of Jacobs pass off. The
- 1:29:31Speaker 1: defender had to tow it in the ends on touchdown Radors,
- 1:29:36Speaker 1: Jacobs does it again, this second rushing touchdown of the game,
- 1:29:42Speaker 1: have the Raiders back in front of the Texans twenty
- 1:29:45Speaker 1: three with two to go in the ball game, and
- 1:29:49Speaker 1: Raiders won the game thirty eight twenty and Jason Horowitz
- 1:29:52Speaker 1: on the Compass Media Las Vegas Raiders Raiders, Yes she did,
- 1:29:57Speaker 1: and that touchdown was the fifth lead change of the game.
- 1:29:59Speaker 1: One of three on the ground for Jacobs in this game.
- 1:30:02Speaker 1: The Raiders are now two and four. What do you
- 1:30:05Speaker 1: do with Jacobs? He's an unrestricted free agent after season,
- 1:30:07Speaker 1: and you almost feel bad for the running backs. So
- 1:30:09Speaker 1: you can have these great seasons and you're not gonna
- 1:30:11Speaker 1: get a big contract. Is this his fourth year already? Pete?
- 1:30:16Speaker 1: They didn't pick up his fifth year option. I mean
- 1:30:20Speaker 1: he's gonna get paid. He'll get paid. He'll get paid
- 1:30:22Speaker 1: a running back contract. But the but the mega contracts
- 1:30:25Speaker 1: are gone the running back. Yeah, the mega contracts are
- 1:30:28Speaker 1: gone for running backs. Let's see, Pete, you're not a
- 1:30:33Speaker 1: running back free agent running back guy? You wouldn't pay him?
- 1:30:37Speaker 1: Would I pay him? I pay him five six million
- 1:30:40Speaker 1: a year, maybe put some incentives in, and I'm not
- 1:30:41Speaker 1: paying him anymore than I No, I'm not. I'll draft
- 1:30:44Speaker 1: a guy from you to say, is this the same
- 1:30:46Speaker 1: Pete Frisco? Who's who's who's stepfree? Either? Big game of
- 1:30:53Speaker 1: a lot for that too much? Seahawks Chargers. The Seahawks
- 1:30:59Speaker 1: never yield. They made it a three score game late
- 1:31:02Speaker 1: with the rookie running back going wild first and ten toss.
- 1:31:06Speaker 1: The walker goes right side has a little running room.
- 1:31:08Speaker 1: Parkinson out front, here goes he's on the run forty
- 1:31:12Speaker 1: down to the thirty and they're gonna catch him. I
- 1:31:13Speaker 1: don't think so. Fifteen damn five touchdown Seahawks seventy four yards.
- 1:31:21Speaker 1: But Seahawks get the ball on downs, they toss it
- 1:31:26Speaker 1: to Ken Hawker. The third he gets fired out of
- 1:31:29Speaker 1: a gatling gunn and he is gone one sixty eight yards.
- 1:31:33Speaker 1: Two touchdowns for the rookie out of Michigan State. Seahawks
- 1:31:36Speaker 1: now four and three? Have they figured it out? By
- 1:31:38Speaker 1: the way, at Steve Rabel on Seahawks broadcasting, Pete, what
- 1:31:41Speaker 1: do you like? Where did they Where did they find
- 1:31:42Speaker 1: Kenneth ken Walker? Second round? You can find guys. You
- 1:31:45Speaker 1: don't draft them. You don't draft, you don't pay him.
- 1:31:47Speaker 1: And by the way, think about this, Tony. The Chargers
- 1:31:50Speaker 1: are given up five point seven per rush. Remember I mean,
- 1:31:56Speaker 1: remember I thought Brandon Staley was like the defensive genius five.
- 1:32:00Speaker 1: They change guys. Remember they signed Austin Johnson. They go
- 1:32:02Speaker 1: get the best jin Joseph. They don't. They don't stop.
- 1:32:05Speaker 1: They can't stop the run. Ever, Hey and Pete, remember
- 1:32:09Speaker 1: and this was a top ten defense when Staley took
- 1:32:11Speaker 1: it over from Gus. Right, they don't stop the run.
- 1:32:14Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. Justin Herbert leads a league
- 1:32:17Speaker 1: in pass attempts, their twenty eight in yards per attempt.
- 1:32:21Speaker 1: They don't throw the ball down the field with that guy,
- 1:32:25Speaker 1: They're not very good. Um, I'll say this, but the
- 1:32:29Speaker 1: better story to me is, uh, this is the Seahawks
- 1:32:32Speaker 1: and Gino Smith. I mean Gino Smith was dead right,
- 1:32:36Speaker 1: stead right and wanted Geno Smith. He's on every team.
- 1:32:40Speaker 1: He's a bomb. He's holding you know, he can't play
- 1:32:43Speaker 1: the dudes playing topping back. This is where they draft
- 1:32:47Speaker 1: him out of West Virginia. He'sa They play the Giants
- 1:32:51Speaker 1: this week in Seattle. That's a tough trip for the
- 1:32:53Speaker 1: Giants after going to Jacksonville. And the Giants can't stop
- 1:32:55Speaker 1: the run. They're giving up about five and a half
- 1:32:57Speaker 1: per per rush as well, kind of five point six
- 1:33:00Speaker 1: five point six going in. I think, yeah, they're tied,
- 1:33:06Speaker 1: so ken Walker will have another big day. Chiefs and
- 1:33:10Speaker 1: the Niners. The Chiefs trailed ten nothing early and took
- 1:33:13Speaker 1: the lead midway through the second and stayed on the accelerator,
- 1:33:15Speaker 1: capping it off late in the fourth. Quarter time to
- 1:33:18Speaker 1: throw over the middle, Chiesis Smith Schister wide open Chooks
- 1:33:22Speaker 1: the safety ten gets a black Angli near side pylon
- 1:33:26Speaker 1: touchdown Kansas City in his yards after catch all day
- 1:33:32Speaker 1: long forty five yard touchdown reception by Jue Juice Smith Schuster.
- 1:33:37Speaker 1: The Chiefs went at over the Niners and Mitch Holders
- 1:33:41Speaker 1: on the one of six five the Wolf and the
- 1:33:42Speaker 1: Chiefs radio network Mahomes over four hundred Niners turned it
- 1:33:45Speaker 1: over three times. Yeah, they played terrible football, But can
- 1:33:49Speaker 1: Christie McCaffrey play corner? Can you help out in the secondary?
- 1:33:53Speaker 1: I mean, my gosh, that was the number one defensive
- 1:33:55Speaker 1: league and Mahomes did whatever the hell he wanted to
- 1:33:57Speaker 1: to him all day long. I mean, they got a
- 1:34:00Speaker 1: big Rams Pevey never played a good defense in the
- 1:34:05Speaker 1: last two weeks, so who no the Atlanta got him
- 1:34:10Speaker 1: to last week. You're right, They're not that good on
- 1:34:12Speaker 1: defense right now. And they got a lot of guys back.
- 1:34:15Speaker 1: They all were back on lineup. That was bad. And
- 1:34:19Speaker 1: one final score last night, Dolphins over the Steelers sixteen ten.
- 1:34:22Speaker 1: They picked on Noah ig Monogeny all game and then
- 1:34:25Speaker 1: he intercepted the ball at the end to seal it
- 1:34:27Speaker 1: for the Dolphins to knock off the Steelers. Monday Night Football,
- 1:34:32Speaker 1: we head to Foxborough and who will play quarterback for
- 1:34:35Speaker 1: the New England Patriots? Back up Bailey's appy is one
- 1:34:38Speaker 1: of the last two outings. Mac Jones could be back
- 1:34:40Speaker 1: to injury. The Bears, on the other hand, are looking
- 1:34:43Speaker 1: to rebound from a lackluster performance on Thursday Night a
- 1:34:45Speaker 1: week ago. They're looking for their first win away from
- 1:34:48Speaker 1: Soldier Field this season. Who you got tonight at Jillette Stadium?
- 1:34:53Speaker 1: Mac Jones back wrote that this morning, I'll take the
- 1:34:59Speaker 1: pay Patriots. I know you did. I think the Patriots.
- 1:35:04Speaker 1: I think the Patriots win by team bad offensive, bad
- 1:35:12Speaker 1: football team. And of course Bill Belichick would surpass George
- 1:35:16Speaker 1: Hollis with Owen tonight for all time. Wendy tied him
- 1:35:20Speaker 1: last week and that could happen at you Lett's stay
- 1:35:23Speaker 1: to um tonight. All right? So next week London, Tony,
- 1:35:27Speaker 1: you're there already the Jaguars arrived on the ground Friday,
- 1:35:30Speaker 1: and then it is game on Sunday. At when on
- 1:35:33Speaker 1: the program next week? I'm I'm told there will not
- 1:35:38Speaker 1: be one next week. That was what I was told today.
- 1:35:42Speaker 1: There's no there's no Monday night because the team's coming back.
- 1:35:47Speaker 1: It's late. There's travel. We were told today, no Monday
- 1:35:50Speaker 1: next week, So there you go. Yes, we'll be back
- 1:35:58Speaker 1: in two weeks. I guess after a maybe maybe Dug
- 1:36:03Speaker 1: can go for it on fourth and won the whole
- 1:36:04Speaker 1: game then because he won't get any criticism about it.
- 1:36:11Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's news to me. Are you sure JP?
- 1:36:15Speaker 1: I think JP has got some bad information. That's what
- 1:36:17Speaker 1: I was told. That's what I was told. Maybe I'll
- 1:36:20Speaker 1: just do our own little podcasting. We will release it
- 1:36:23Speaker 1: out somewhere. Told me you'll be on the plane with me,
- 1:36:26Speaker 1: like we should just sit out and do one to
- 1:36:28Speaker 1: leave Pete out. Are you flying back? Sleep you guys
- 1:36:33Speaker 1: fly back one Sunday night with the team. I'm flying back.
- 1:36:36Speaker 1: So how are you gonna be on the plane? You'll
- 1:36:37Speaker 1: be home? I don't know. Hey, we gotta go. As
- 1:36:41Speaker 1: Pete Briscoe told me, was Sally. I've stirred it up.
- 1:36:44Speaker 1: I'm J P. Shadrick's We'll see you next time. It's
- 1:36:46Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour of the Jaguars Digital Network.