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Know the Enemy: Wake Forest · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  And welcome back to the Boundary Corner Podcast along with my
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  partners Brian Siegler, Jonathan Talley, and Shelton Moss.
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  Gentlemen, how's it going on a cool fall Tuesday night?
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  Man, that weather feels good, don't it?
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  Finally turning into fall or false fall.
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  I don't know. We might get some more
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  summertime but. In the morning time it's feeling
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  like fall down here. I hear that.
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  I don't think we get any more false fall.
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  I think that's it. I think up here it's it now down
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  there in Alabama maybe y'all get one more 85 degree week I think.
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  I don't know what false fall feels like in Alabama.
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  So you got to, you got to tell me what that's like.
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  Go ahead. Well, you go through all Four
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  Seasons in one day just about you'll wake up and it's like 50
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  degrees and then. During the day.
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  So you have to turn your defrost on to get the frost off of your
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  window in the morning time before you take the kids to
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  school and do whatever. And just about when you're you
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  go get breakfast or coffee and start heading back home.
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  So 30 minutes. It's like art is getting too
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  hot. I got to turn this off.
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  So you go from about 5052 to about 70 and then on into the
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  middle of the day you get to about 85.
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  And then it just dwindles down home for the rest of the day.
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  So you go through about all Four Seasons in one day?
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  In one day. In one day, man, we we had a few
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  of those, man. Like I think it was a couple
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  weeks back. We had like two or three days in
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  a row. There was like a 40 degree swing
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  from the from the morning temps to the evening temps.
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  It was like 53 in the morning to 93 in the afternoon and that's
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  why I sound like I do right now because the when the weather
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  can't settle my allergies and my sinuses is just out of control,
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  they like. Yeah, I'm fighting too, but I
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  got, I got one this, this sinus right here is on fire, buddy.
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  Alrighty. Well, we got a lot to uncover.
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  Obviously, Hokies fall to FSU3917.
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  We're going to talk about that. Then we're going to preview the
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  Wake Forest, know the enemy. But before we start all that
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  stuff, I want to give a shout out to all of our listeners
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  because last week was our largest combined episode we have
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  ever had. Between not quite, not quite,
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  not quite, not quite not quite the we had, we had the episode
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  back there with the panel that that hit a bunch of high points
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  there. But this is this is the highest
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  episode when it's just the crew. Just the crew.
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  Just the crew. 3000 listens over 1700 on YouTube, 1300 plus just
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  downloaded from podcast sources and we won't thank Y'all because
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  legitimately we lost Tally. I don't know where he went.
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  I mean cuz legitimately we are. We're four fans, Shelton writes
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  a ton and kudos to him for that. If you do not check Shelton's
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  workout on the key play, y'all need to subscribe just for
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  Shelton's articles. In general, it's also.
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  I appreciate that anytime. Your articles are awesome, man.
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  So we're just four fans and we love talking about this and
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  researching it and writing about it and talking about it and
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  making notes and sitting around that we won't get tally back.
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  But that's what we are, you know, Sheldon and alum us three
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  or not. And just to do this and have
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  3000 people want to listen to your opinion on it, it means a
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  lot to us and so want to tip the hat to everybody out there
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  listening. Is he gone?
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  It looks like he said he lost the Internet there, full stop,
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  so hopefully he can get that back on.
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  But if not, we we we we go forward, man.
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  We go forward, we move, we move and let's hit some news and
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  notes while hopefully Tally can get a connection here and let's
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  just let's drop this. I'm sure y'all saw the news
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  former Hokey head coach Justin Fuente is going to Indiana as an
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  offensive analyst. Fox.
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  Gentlemen, I mean, that makes a whole lot of sense from his
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  standpoint. I mean, it's a, it's an
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  offensive job where he can kind of get back to his bread and
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  butter. It's an analyst position where
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  he doesn't have to deal with all of the other stuff that he
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  demonstrated he was not very good at.
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  At Virginia Tech. So like I said, overall I think
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  that's a that's a good solid fit for his skill set at this point
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  in his career shown any any thoughts on this?
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  Yeah, I mean of all the things that I would not Justin Fuente
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  for, I think his knowledge of the exes and knows of football
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  is not one of them. I mean, I've talked to coaches
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  who use his run packages from TCU and you could also look at
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  the way that he he neutralized JJ Wattnet ball game that had
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  against. Against Wisconsin and the Rose
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  Bowl back a few years ago. So you know, football, like
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  Brian said, I think it's just a better fit for him being an
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  offensive analyst because he can sort of, you know, get away from
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  the recruiting aspect and just focus on ball, which is his
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  Forte Valley that we are discussing.
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  Ex hokey coach Justin Fluente taking a job with Indiana as a
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  offensive analyst as. Long as he ain't got to do no
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  recruiting and stuff, it'll be fine.
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  Everything got talking to parents.
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  I ain't got to go make no. Crazy decisions like if he's
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  just in the background collecting the check, he.
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  Doesn't have to glad hand donors he doesn't have to do.
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  He's a pretty good, he's a pretty good football mind.
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  And no, I do not have great value Internet.
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  That would be an upgrade. I have Alabama Internet and this
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  suck. Doesn't matter what you do.
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  Doesn't matter what you do. Oh my gosh.
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  Well, I think y'all right. It is.
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  It is his wheelhouse. It's an offensive analyst job.
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  Again, he doesn't have to do anything but break tough down
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  and put stuff out there. And like you said, Shelton, some
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  of those concepts he had at TCU and when we saw it flash at
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  times here, you knew it was right.
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  But I think for him in general, I think that's probably where he
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  lands. And by the way, I'm kind of
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  shocked. As big as his buyout was, I know
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  that's an ill point with everybody.
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  I mean, we're right at two years, like right at 2 years, a
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  couple weeks away from 2 years. I thought it'd be a couple more
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  went back to. Work that's.
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  Fair. That's fair.
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  All right. I mean, so does that mean Grit
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  is coming to Indiana? Oh, well, Tom Allen's safety,
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  He's an alum and he given a couple of their best seasons of
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  all time. So maybe question is, did he
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  become OC at Indiana? That'll be a bigger interesting.
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  All right, I did not get to see this on Saturday night.
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  I got texted about it from from this, from from this panel right
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  here. Saw it on Sunday morning.
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  Anybody want to explain what the was Miami doing with 35 seconds
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  left at the end of the game? I don't know, man.
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  I tried my best to make sense of it.
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  I was like, do they just not want any negative plays?
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  I don't. You know, maybe taking a knee
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  gives you an offense, a negative run.
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  I don't know. We sat watching on in in college
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  football. Somebody got some, so I know
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  what it was. Somebody had the more than on on
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  prize picks when he was going to fuck him up.
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  It had to be something, man, because it's like there's no
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  reason to run the ball, no reason at all.
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  But but the worst part, I'll let you chime in.
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  The worst part was OK, you'd run and they fumble.
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  The worst part was OK. 30 yard game was not the worst part.
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  They made a good play. The worst part was the
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  touchdown. Why do you have two guys back
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  there? They go have to throw somewhat
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  of a Hail Mary to get it to the end zone from 40 plus yards out.
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  Any any Did you get to watch this?
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  Did you see this live by chance, or did you see the text and be
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  like what did they do? Yes, I actually did see it live.
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  I I caught it right as a fun what was happening?
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  I don't understand defensively how?
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  They gave up that those big touch, those big passing plays
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  when they were dropping aid into coverage.
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  Like I don't understand how that works.
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  I mean you're playing prevent defense, you know that the the
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  one job you have is to not get beat deep and they got.
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  Beat deep. Just don't get beat deep.
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  And they got beat deep two times.
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  The last time was still the worst.
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  Because I I sit here as a coach. Well, I sit here thinking as a
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  coach, OK, what? What do they need?
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  They need a touchdown, right? Yeah, four guys are going to
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  stand at the goal line. You don't.
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  Least you do not leave your your heels, do not leave the goal.
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  Line until you just don't let him get to the.
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  Just don't let nobody get to the goal line.
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  But you got to handle so. You're you're in at least a
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  nickel, probably a dime look, and every single one of those
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  people that has a DB attached to their name needs to be on that
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  fucking end zone. Ready to knock that shit down
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  and get that shit out of there? It's really funny that that.
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  Happened. And I mean, you get burned
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  twice, like you didn't even learn from your mistake.
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  I don't know why it happened, but I was happy I wanted.
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  My I mean, it's hilarious. I wanted an hilarious, well,
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  y'all know that's not the first time it happened.
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  Oh, Oh no. Yeah, we've seen it before.
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  It did it out there in Oregon. Almost lost the stand for doing
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  the same shit. So I'll tell you what might need
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  to get that man there. Somebody needs to to send him
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  the victory formation play design.
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  You can even do it to. Say here's a present.
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  Yeah, do it on a shotgun. Do it however you want to do it.
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  You don't have to teach your quarterback to take a snap under
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  center to do this. Not anymore.
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  Receive the stat. Take a knee.
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  That's all you got to do. Game over W in the win, college.
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  All right. Well, let's move to it, boys.
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  Let's move to tell the truth Tuesday of what went well, what
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  went bad, anything we weren't prepared for and things we got
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  to do better moving forward. Some of these will sound
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  monotonous from the last few weeks.
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  That's Okay, because that means we got to deal, do things
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  better. But I'm going to start out to
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  get here and let's start with what went well, Brian, what is
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  something you felt like went well on Saturday?
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  We ran the football pretty well man, considering the opponent.
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  I think we ran the ball pretty well overall.
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  I like seeing drones on that big run, stepping up in the pocket,
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  making a big run, about a 40 yard carry.
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  I believe Malachi Thomas had his best game of the season.
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  We mixed into in there a little bit we saw.
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  You know we had a chance Black and Bryce Duke exciting late,
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  not that that really played a factor in the in that very much,
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  especially with the the ball getting on the turf a little bit
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  there. But overall, I mean if if we had
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  been a little bit better in some other areas, I'd I'd have been
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  okay overall with the run performance.
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  Kylie, what about you? What do you feel like went well
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  on Saturday afternoon? We returned to kick.
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  We hadn't done that in a long time.
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  You know what Tooting, which Tooting is just a man like he he
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  is getting hit before he gets the ball.
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  He's bouncing off people. So he may, I think he only had
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  with 30 yards rushing or 25 yards rushing and maybe 25 yards
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  receiving, something like that. But it takes someone to the
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  house and I'm like yelling at the TV.
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  Why do you keep putting on starting running back back there
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  to run off a run a kick and then he runs it back?
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  So I'd sit down and shut up, you know what I'm saying?
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  So I mean, I think it's been 11 years since we returned to
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  kickoff and he did it. And it's crazy because if you go
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  watch that kick, he wasn't running fast until, like, he
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  just kept hitting more gears. Like he he, he was, you know,
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  mosing alone. Then he felt some pressure.
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  He hit another gear. Then he felt the dude about to
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  catch him, He hit another gear. I was like, God damn, how fast
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  can he run? So that was, that was good to
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  see. That was awesome to see.
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  Sam, what about you? What do we do?
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  Well, they covered. They covered the, that is.
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  That is the most important thing.
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  I mean obviously the the kickoff return helped.
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  I thought the Russian game was you know pretty solid all things
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  considered success rate wise they they had a pretty well,
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  they stayed on schedule for the most part.
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  So I thought it was pretty a pretty solid performance
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  relative to the quality of the opposition.
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  Alright, I'm, I'm, I'm kind of with you on that.
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  The one thing I said and we said this in the keys last week is
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  keep FSU in front of you, right, Keep the passing game,
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  especially keep that passing game in front of you and we did.
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  Now the first quarter, they drove the ball three separate
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  times, took about 4 1/2 minutes. Each time we gave him 22 points.
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  That's not great, but it's one of those things that you know
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  people are going to be pissed anytime you people score on you
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  or you lose a game. But the whole idea of keeping
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  people in front of you is more play, more plays, equals more
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  chances for people to make mistakes, to make errors, to
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  force turnovers. So when we were doing, they were
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  driving like that first one, where they're driving, they're
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  driving, they're driving, remembers the third one.
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  Kalyle Lawson always had a pick because wherever he dropped,
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  Jordan Travis missed him and he almost had the pick.
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  So when I say that key teams in front of you, it's not
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  necessarily, well, that what if they keep scoring because let's
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  talk about the Reds on defense later.
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  But that piece is eventually somebody's going to make an
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  error or eventually it's going to be third and short and
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  they're going to run the wrong play and they're going to have
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  to punt. That's just those things we can
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  build on anything else that you know offensively or defensively
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  that caught Y'all's eye that you know from Saturday.
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  I mean I think the big thing we got, we got some pressure on the
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  quarterback. I mean they hadn't really
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  surrendered a ton of pressure and especially getting home and
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  you know we were able to do that somewhat consistently,
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  especially in those kind of middle quarters where we kind of
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  made a little bit of a run there.
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  So you like to see that hopefully that can continue as
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  we kind of move forward here to. Wake Forest this week because
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  we're going to need to get some pressure I think, on the
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  quarterback to to affect what they do well with that slow
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  mesh. Yeah, Tally mentioned it last
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  week. They'd only given up 4 sacks all
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  year. We got two Saturday and he was
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  he was pressured. They'd only given up one.
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  They'd only given up one. And we pressured them numerous
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  times. Jordan Travis got out of it and
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  we talked about it. He's he's athletic.
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  He's slippery, so that is what it is.
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  But again, you keep seeing that against the level of that
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  competition. You know, obviously things went
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  bad, you lost the game, but when you see we ran the ball well
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  against them, Okay, that's good. We had some special teams, we
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  did pretty good there. We kept them in front of us.
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  They did not hit explosive pass plays.
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  But let's talk about what went bad because it happened again.
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  Y'all. Don't say it.
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  Don't even. Don't even say it, Sheldon.
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  Say it it happened again, it's. One of your favorite categories?
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  Explosive plays. Button plays.
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  Let's explosive ruins now. We can't fix it, man.
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  We can't fix it. All right, well, let's Let's be
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  real though for the two, because it was an 85 yarder that was
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  bad. The 85 yarder.
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  We pulled up the tape. I'd ask people to cover their
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  eyes because Jane McDonald just completely messed that up
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  completely. The other one, I looked at it
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  like four times myself, and then I conferred with our offensive
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  line specialists over here. The first one was just a good
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  block play. Nobody was really.
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  It wasn't bad fits or anything. It was fit right.
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  They just blocked it. Well, with you again, You play a
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  team like Florida State with that much talent, guess what
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  happens? Oh yeah.
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  It's going to be a talent discrepancy.
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  You know you're going, you're going to run into a play where
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  that just better than you. But the thing that bothers me is
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  that we play six games. What we have is what we are, you
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  know what I'm saying? It's kind of like what we see is
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  what we get and this is going on every week.
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  You know, you think you got defensive coordinator, that's
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  been a long time linebacker coach.
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  You got pride who's a defensive guy, linebacker coach.
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  And we just continuously give up big runs when we need one stop,
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  go back to the Rutgers game, it's like third and one, third
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  and two, they break off a big run.
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  You go to the Marshall game and so on and so forth.
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  It's not anything that I think they can fix in the in the
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  season. I think Shelton probably said
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  this like numerous times in the chat, like it's a it's a talent
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  deficiency that we have to fix in the offseason.
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  So they got to go in this portal and they got to get some help
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  because yeah, the run fits have been bad.
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  But when you start playing certain teams, it's like the run
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  fits is bad because you don't know what you're doing or you
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  just don't have the capability to fix it.
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  So that's what's frustrating. Well, I'm, I was going to save
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  this for a little while, but I'll bring it up now about what
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  to do better moving forward. It is it's night and day when
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  Tisdale and Lost are on the field.
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  If it's there, they're good. If anybody else or any
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  combination or one of them's, it's it legitimately just and
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  with Tisdale and Lawson, Brian, they made some mistakes earlier,
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  but those two guys have fixed it.
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  Yeah they they've definitely cleaned up some of their errors
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  as the season has gone on. I mean they're they're the first
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  long touchdown. They were both on the field,
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  Lawson slightly over pursued, Tisdale a little slow getting
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  there, but they they were more or less where they needed to be.
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  It was just also well blocked play.
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  You know the other play, you can't make that that move.
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  If you're McDonald, you can't try to undercut.
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  The the blocker in in another gap and and make that play from
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  behind. You're not that athletic.
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  I was saying earlier you know you're not you're not Michael
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  Parsons here. You're not you're not equipped
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  to make that play right now. You need to play sound play
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  within the structure and make them earn it.
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  When you when you do stuff like that that's that risky against a
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  a a good team and the defense that's already struggling with
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  these things that that's the outcome all.
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  Right. Any anything else y'all want to
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  add to that of what went bad about the explosive runs?
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  All right. I really, Yeah.
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  Tallies. I think we're tired of talking
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  about it. The issue is we keep, yeah,
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  freaking doing it. I mean, at some point we just
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  either need to see it get better or we're going to keep having to
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  bring it up every. Week.
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  Bring it up every week because it's not getting better.
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  Hey, hey. I mean, I don't.
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  Want to be it? Did it against PIT.
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  So maybe, maybe hokey naked Hokey Nation can show up again
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  and like, be the 12th man and help us.
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  Because whatever happened against Pitt, we need it to
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  happen this weekend, too. It's going.
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  To be nice to have it this weekend.
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  Alright, something else I saw that went bad.
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  Overall the numbers look good. Money downs.
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  Florida State was 6 for 13, that is under 50%.
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  I think it's pretty good. The bigger issue is, is in the
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  first quarter they were five for five.
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  On all those touchdown drives and you got and they got home on
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  all like so they weren't they weren't just five for 5:00, but
• 21:33
  they put points on there every time.
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  So you're falling down 22. I mean that's just, that's
• 21:39
  killer, man. That kills you.
• 21:42
  It does. And it was the whole thing is
• 21:44
  when you see 5 for five tally, you can say it you've and you've
• 21:48
  said it a couple times already. The opportunities were there to
• 21:51
  stop the drive. You got to have.
• 21:54
  That's where playmakers come up. You know what I'm saying?
• 21:56
  I ain't saying like you got to go recruit all five stars, but
• 22:00
  when you have people in places that step up and make plays like
• 22:03
  that, like that's where the cream of the crop rises, you
• 22:08
  know what I'm saying? I think we have a couple of
• 22:11
  people who can do that, but consistently we're not showing
• 22:15
  that we can do that across the board.
• 22:17
  You know, like I watched the Lane play and he's, he's balling
• 22:22
  like he's a, he's a. I seen him jump over a six,
• 22:26
  seven guy, you know, to go defend the past.
• 22:29
  He just can do some stuff that you can't teach, you know what
• 22:32
  I'm saying? So we got to find those players
• 22:35
  and we may have some already there.
• 22:37
  You know, I know we got a lot of young guys and stuff.
• 22:39
  Not saying I'm down on the team. I'm just saying for right here
• 22:44
  and right now we got to have some guys to step up and be able
• 22:48
  to do that. They'll be like, I'm going to
• 22:49
  put the team on my back to make this play.
• 22:52
  I'm I'm going to make a point to this because you just made the
• 22:54
  point about the lane making those that play on Johnny Wilson
• 22:59
  and for the most part holding his own and it and it goes back
• 23:02
  to the blend, right. You've got to have some guys
• 23:05
  like that. But the other guys have to be
• 23:08
  the guys who are going to be disciplined, know exactly where
• 23:11
  they're going and what they're doing and that's what they're
• 23:13
  going to be consistent every single time.
• 23:15
  And the issue is we got Lawson freak.
• 23:19
  The lane's great, Strong's good. Stroman people and you got those
• 23:25
  four, but they apr is flashing. APR is flashing, but then like
• 23:29
  right now you've got a guy like Nasir, people's getting back.
• 23:31
  Safety play was much better Saturday but he's that steady
• 23:34
  Eddie and and The thing is we're missing right now is it's the
• 23:40
  guys behind some of them. Oh yeah, the.
• 23:43
  Missing all you want. And to me, all we want with
• 23:45
  those pieces is I don't look for freaks there.
• 23:48
  That's the steady. The second team linebacker
• 23:50
  steady. You going to go to the right
• 23:51
  holes. You're not going to do anything
• 23:52
  stupid. You going to break your guy
• 23:54
  down, right? You going to leverage the
• 23:55
  outside. We don't have those guys now.
• 23:58
  Could Stone Snyder had been it? Maybe, maybe not.
• 24:02
  We'll never know. It'll be a big unknown question.
• 24:04
  To your point. I think the portal's got to be
• 24:06
  hit on the linebacker side. It's like you got to find just
• 24:09
  some good, solid player. Like, hey, you're going to get
• 24:12
  about 15 snaps a game. You're going to play special
• 24:15
  teams. Come here.
• 24:17
  Because trenches in line, I mean trenches in in linebacker room.
• 24:21
  How to address that and at least one safety?
• 24:24
  And at least one safety because the sear is gone, we cannot
• 24:26
  bring him back. But if you look at, if you look
• 24:29
  at our and we ain't got to go into this all tonight.
• 24:33
  But if you look at what we have on the team, if they can hold it
• 24:38
  together like the the main job of the coaches this offseason
• 24:43
  should be, let me keep. The good that I have here, let
• 24:48
  me make sure nobody leaves early.
• 24:50
  Let me make sure nobody transfers that can come back
• 24:53
  because a lot of these names that we're calling that are
• 24:57
  flashing and are making plays can come back if you pay, if you
• 25:01
  place the right people with them in the transfer portal, then you
• 25:05
  start to build like a Florida State does.
• 25:08
  You know what I'm saying? Like I like we talked about it
• 25:10
  before the game, the way that they built the team, the way
• 25:13
  that Northvale did it is. A game plan for pride if he uses
• 25:19
  it right. You know what I'm saying?
• 25:20
  Again, I don't think we're Florida State.
• 25:22
  They're they're different than we are.
• 25:24
  But I'm just saying how he's built this team is a way that
• 25:27
  you can look at it because some of the way we will never build a
• 25:30
  team like Dion, because we're not, we don't have the Dion, you
• 25:34
  know what I'm saying? But the way Norvelle did it, we
• 25:37
  can do that. So I'm just hoping these guys
• 25:39
  can move forward like that. I agree because if you look at
• 25:44
  it, you know, I think we can incrementally backfill here
• 25:50
  because I mean, you look at Florida State, a lot of those,
• 25:52
  their key players came over in the transfer portal.
• 25:56
  And I think if we can have another offseason where we fill
• 26:01
  in those holes like we did in this one, I think it needs to be
• 26:05
  more defensive focus, whereas last season, last offseason was
• 26:09
  offensive focus. But if you look at our offense,
• 26:11
  I mean, our transfers are accounting for like 75% of our
• 26:16
  offensive production. They are.
• 26:18
  It's not even a joke. So that tells you that we've had
• 26:22
  success in the transfer board. All.
• 26:25
  Right. Well, let's let's talk about
• 26:26
  kind of some things that went bad.
• 26:28
  On the offensive side of the ball, and I and I, and I'm
• 26:31
  sorry, I bothered y'all with this and I bothered a few other
• 26:34
  people with it, our offenses came in the first quarter tally.
• 26:40
  Explain to me why we would ever try to attack the edges against
• 26:44
  Florida State passing or running the ball.
• 26:48
  No, they faster than us, They bigger than us, you know what
• 26:52
  I'm saying? They're more athletic than us,
• 26:55
  attacking the edges, what going to work.
• 26:56
  But what I was more worried about was why did we come out
• 27:00
  trying to throw the ball so much like when we start running the
• 27:05
  ball and you can say. You know, well, they took their
• 27:07
  foot off the gas, so they did this.
• 27:09
  They still had their starters on the field and their starters
• 27:12
  still wanted to hit our players. They were still hitting and we
• 27:16
  averaged 6 yards to carry. You know some of those was
• 27:19
  drones breaking, you know, breaking a run on a on a pass
• 27:22
  play. But we came out and the first
• 27:24
  three plays was pass plays. That should never be us.
• 27:28
  That is not what we're going to be good at at all.
• 27:31
  We don't got the line to do with it, especially not against that
• 27:33
  team so. Back to what you said, Curtis.
• 27:36
  The early scheme, I was blown. I don't know what we was doing,
• 27:41
  but it went bad. It definitely went bad, Brian.
• 27:48
  Yeah, I did not like how much we were throwing the ball around.
• 27:52
  I didn't have a problem with the first down throws, but you know,
• 27:59
  sometimes when those aren't successful, you kind of get in
• 28:02
  this cycle where you feel like you have to throw it after that.
• 28:04
  So not having that early success and not not really emphasizing
• 28:09
  the ground game, which I mean that's what we've shown
• 28:12
  ironically. Like the first three weeks we
• 28:14
  couldn't move the damn ball and now all of a sudden I feel like
• 28:17
  we have found how we can run the ball.
• 28:21
  But we didn't get to that fast enough on Saturday against FSU.
• 28:26
  We didn't get to that that mode. And I think that if we could
• 28:31
  have like at least had a had a nice little sustained drive in
• 28:35
  that that early push given the defense a little bit more time
• 28:39
  to settle in. Because once once Barr made some
• 28:42
  adjustments on that side, you know other than those two big
• 28:45
  plays that came in the second-half, they didn't really
• 28:48
  do a ton right. So if we could have got a little
• 28:51
  bit more offense going in that early run and slowed down what
• 28:55
  they were doing on offense, I think that could have, you know,
• 28:58
  really put us in a better spot as we kind of moved into the
• 29:01
  second quarter there. But we we just kind of went out
• 29:04
  there and slung it around a little bit, got off the field
• 29:06
  and the defense was back on there doing it again.
• 29:09
  Jill, do anything on the early offensive scheme in your
• 29:12
  opinion? Yeah, I mean, this was a game
• 29:15
  where they were far more efficient running the ball than
• 29:19
  throwing it. I mean, just looking at the
• 29:20
  success rate. When rushing, they're about 55%
• 29:24
  successful compared to passing about 20%.
• 29:27
  So I mean that's kind of twice as twice as effective.
• 29:29
  And I think this is probably Karen Jones's worst game just
• 29:32
  from a pure efficiency standpoint.
• 29:34
  So they, I mean they just couldn't get anything going in
• 29:36
  the passing game and you know I can understand why you'd want to
• 29:40
  run the ball more but it might, you know not be particularly
• 29:43
  tempting against that floor to safe front.
• 29:45
  But it did have success with it. So I don't know it's it's always
• 29:49
  a balance as an OC between. You know, going with what works
• 29:52
  versus not trying to be too predictable because if you just
• 29:54
  try to hammer, you know, the inside zone all day, then
• 29:58
  Florida State can adjust that too.
• 30:00
  So I'm sure that's probably the reason for why they had the
• 30:02
  splits that they did, but certainly beats me.
• 30:06
  Yep. And if you're wondering how much
• 30:09
  first nine plays, seven passes, two runs, the first three series
• 30:14
  were all three and outs. Let's talk about it just real
• 30:19
  quick because it's where we're keep beating the dead horse here
• 30:22
  again offensive line place still ain't there shown.
• 30:26
  Do you have the grades for the offensive line?
• 30:30
  For this particular game, yeah, I can pull the notice.
• 30:32
  Give me one SEC. All righty, Brian Talley just
• 30:35
  just watching from the tape. Anything stood out.
• 30:38
  Anything that jumped while Sheldon gets the the stat points
• 30:42
  right side is still bad. Braylan Moore played his best
• 30:45
  game, I feel like. I was going to say kind of what
• 30:49
  Brian said, right side is still bad.
• 30:51
  I don't understand why they haven't addressed that.
• 30:53
  I mean you got to try to do something right.
• 30:54
  But some plays, you know, not to just say everything was all bad.
• 31:01
  Some plays again we were messing up but we messed up going full
• 31:06
  speed. I'm okay with that.
• 31:09
  Like that play were Tooting scored and he jumped over the
• 31:12
  kid. It was not blocked.
• 31:14
  Perfect people were in the right places when they pulled.
• 31:17
  Chaplain was in the right place. He kind of pushed his guy, but
• 31:20
  the guy that he pushed was the guy that too jumped over.
• 31:24
  So I'd like to see him finish that block, drive that man on
• 31:28
  out of the plate. But I can say, hey for God, it's
• 31:32
  what he's like 66300 and something pounds like he was
• 31:37
  getting on the outside. He was moving, you know what I'm
• 31:39
  saying? So it is some stuff that you can
• 31:41
  see that's going good. Or that you can build on.
• 31:44
  But that right side is horrible. You know, their defensive line
• 31:48
  was eating us alive, but I think we only gave up like 2 sacks,
• 31:52
  which I didn't think we. I thought we'd give up like 7.
• 31:57
  It felt like 7, but I mean they were living in the backfield
• 32:00
  only, like. True drop back drones was
• 32:02
  running for his life so. So, Sean, what does it say about
• 32:10
  the? The grades who is the highest,
• 32:14
  lowest or the order of? Them Well, sure enough, Brian's
• 32:18
  intuition was correct because Britain More did have the
• 32:20
  highest grade among offensive lineman.
• 32:23
  And then you've got Also in addition to that, Caden Moore is
• 32:30
  OK, probably average, chaplain a little bit below average, and
• 32:34
  then Park Clemens below average as well.
• 32:37
  Shake had a rough game and Bretti Notice had a really rough
• 32:40
  game. So you know it's it's a little
• 32:43
  bit both right side and left side but I think I mean I I saw
• 32:46
  one play where shit got you know twisted around by first HDT and
• 32:49
  give up a a pressure. I mean he's he's had a really
• 32:52
  rough go. I mean, he's been OK in past
• 32:53
  protection, but the run game has been, has been really rough for
• 32:56
  him. And and y'all were talking about
• 32:58
  it. They did have two sacks, five
• 33:00
  additional tackles for loss, so they were in backfield. 7 plays
• 33:04
  with it. I feel like this game was the
• 33:06
  game where Brody's physicality and youth kind of showed up.
• 33:11
  Yeah, cuz you're finally playing against guys that are head and
• 33:16
  shoulders above you talent wise and I think is an experience
• 33:20
  showed up there. Makes sense.
• 33:22
  Makes perfect sense. All right, last thing I wanna
• 33:25
  hit on here. And we mentioned it that we
• 33:27
  needed to be good on 3rd down and 4th down.
• 33:29
  We were not good at all. 5 for 17 total.
• 33:34
  Obviously the first one we're owing 3 out of the gate and
• 33:37
  again we we we mentioned it last week.
• 33:39
  The only way we're going this game is play perfect Five for 17
• 33:42
  on those downs. You ain't gonna get it done.
• 33:45
  You ain't gonna get it done. You needed to be somewhere
• 33:47
  between to me 8. Because if you think 8/8 for
• 33:52
  minimum 8. 8 for 17 and like what's that 47% you can live
• 33:57
  because you extend a couple drives like.
• 34:00
  You you slow their momentum down potentially early and and there
• 34:03
  there's nothing you can say about that but just it was bad.
• 34:08
  I do I do compliment pry for you know about midfield down late
• 34:14
  down what 17 or down 15 screw it we going for it we we going for
• 34:20
  it because what was bad and I still haven't seen anything.
• 34:24
  Anybody seen the spot on that 4th and 16 and it it
• 34:28
  legitimately? The drone breaks.
• 34:30
  The pocket goes as he's going out of bounds.
• 34:32
  He extends his arm. Yeah, I mean, it looked like he
• 34:35
  had it well, like had it pretty good.
• 34:38
  And then it was it was like a full yard spot off.
• 34:41
  It was a couple of spots like that too.
• 34:43
  I think it was one where Malachi might have caught a pass across
• 34:47
  the middle and got tackled, like right on the line and they
• 34:50
  spotted him short. And I think we ended up, you
• 34:52
  know, trying to do a quarterback sneak and fumbling the ball in
• 34:55
  the backfield. You know, just different stuff
• 34:58
  like that, man, and that you really don't think about, OK,
• 35:00
  those spots don't. It ain't that bad.
• 35:02
  And then it just trickles into something else.
• 35:04
  But. It makes you run an extra plate.
• 35:06
  It doesn't. The change don't reset.
• 35:10
  By the way, can I say something about that fumble?
• 35:12
  Yep. Kind of.
• 35:14
  Drone was in that pile for about 3 1/2 seconds in your life.
• 35:19
  How long does it normally take for a pile like that for them to
• 35:22
  blow a whistle and call momentum stop?
• 35:25
  About a second and a half. That thing is he jumped in and
• 35:31
  I'm like, he's got it. Why ain't they blowing the bird
• 35:34
  damage the ball out. I was like what?
• 35:36
  By the way, the other one strovin definitely targeting.
• 35:40
  But, and this is bad on the rest part, you tell me how I'm
• 35:44
  sitting down with a guy who was not a Virginia Tech fan when
• 35:47
  drones had that big run and is going.
• 35:50
  They hit him in his ear hole with his with his shoulder.
• 35:54
  Well, that ain't targeted. Yes, it is.
• 35:56
  Head and neck area is part of the targeting rule.
• 35:59
  You cannot throw your show, not even if Y'all didn't notice.
• 36:02
  You knew who had lost his shit on the sidelines when that
• 36:04
  happened. Who?
• 36:06
  Coach Pry. He was like, he was like
• 36:09
  screaming, like he hit him right in the ear hole.
• 36:11
  He was mad and they didn't even review it.
• 36:14
  Yeah, what's crazy is I watched the Florida State guy and he has
• 36:18
  a pretty good podcast. I can't remember the name.
• 36:20
  I think it's like no slaw or something like that.
• 36:24
  So I watched this podcast and he's got a whole podcast
• 36:26
  dedicated to how the refs screwed them in that Virginia
• 36:30
  Tech game. And I was like, what?
• 36:33
  So it was Florida State fans like livid that they were up 22
• 36:37
  to 0. And you know, the refs tried to
• 36:40
  get us back in the game. And I was like, hey man, you may
• 36:43
  be right, but y'all had your, you had your.
• 36:46
  You had your hand at getting some good calls too.
• 36:48
  There was some shit on the other side too.
• 36:50
  They might have missed some stuff.
• 36:51
  I ain't saying they didn't, but they definitely gave you some
• 36:53
  calls too. It was a bad call game
• 36:56
  regardless of whether you think you swayed one way or the other.
• 36:58
  It wasn't a very well officiated game.
• 37:00
  Not at all. They did not have a they did not
• 37:02
  have the top crew there. I don't know where the top crew
• 37:04
  was. All right, let's go to this
• 37:06
  next. Anything that we were not
• 37:08
  prepared for. And I'm going to leave this one
• 37:10
  off and send it to y'all because I'm going to be honest, not
• 37:13
  really. I expected Florida State that
• 37:16
  have one big quarter. I did.
• 37:19
  I expected them to have somewhere between 17 plus
• 37:21
  points. What I did not expect, I did not
• 37:24
  expect it out the game. To me, I think in my head it was
• 37:28
  going to be third quarter, 33rd quarter, going into 4th where
• 37:32
  they just put us away. So everything else, how they
• 37:37
  played, they are as advertised. I've watched the LSU game.
• 37:41
  I watched some of the Clemson game.
• 37:43
  They're for real. They are legitimately a national
• 37:46
  championship contender. And to say, and I know some
• 37:49
  people say, well, moral victories ain't worth the crap
• 37:51
  and ain't worth the shit for 3/4 and Tally, I know people are
• 37:56
  going to tell you they took the gas off.
• 37:58
  They weren't really playing for 3/4.
• 38:01
  We played them 1717 and for the psyche of our team.
• 38:06
  I think that goes a long way. Brian, what you got, I mean, to
• 38:12
  me what what surprised me was how wound up we played in that
• 38:17
  first quarter, especially on defense, looked like the entire
• 38:20
  defense was pressing. They they didn't settle in.
• 38:24
  They they were looking like they just were a little too tight,
• 38:31
  little wound too tight and playing a little, little faster
• 38:33
  than they needed to. And sometimes that that gets you
• 38:39
  at the spot where you're giving up those those plays and they
• 38:42
  able to keep them on the field. They they sustained a bunch of
• 38:45
  big drives there early and got that 22 points on the board real
• 38:49
  quick. So I was glad the coaches were
• 38:52
  able to settle them down. The adjustments that they made
• 38:56
  were able to more or less slow down what they were doing, give
• 39:01
  the offense time to kind of claw back a little bit.
• 39:05
  But just kind of disappointed that we're seeing that in
• 39:08
  another big game. Kind of, you know, to go what
• 39:14
  you said, Curtis. I wasn't really.
• 39:16
  I ain't going to say it was nothing that I wasn't prepared
• 39:19
  for. But you know, I predicted the
• 39:20
  game to be think 4221. So right about, right about
• 39:26
  where I thought we would be as far as what they had.
• 39:29
  But still, even with that, I I didn't expect them to be so
• 39:35
  physical. You know what I'm saying?
• 39:37
  Like I didn't think Florida State was going.
• 39:39
  I thought they were going to be more for Nest.
• 39:41
  Just watching some of their games, but they are really
• 39:43
  physical team, like their wide receivers block.
• 39:47
  I've seen one time like they hit canteen in the chest.
• 39:50
  I thought they was going to knock his back plate off like
• 39:54
  they were physical man. But I can say, you know,
• 39:57
  something else that I weren't prepared for was they were
• 40:00
  physical but we punched back. Like I seen the lane come up and
• 40:04
  hit somebody. You know, I've seen some people
• 40:06
  get some licks on them, you know what I'm saying?
• 40:07
  I've seen some people. You know, getting off some
• 40:09
  blocks, getting to the quarterback.
• 40:11
  So I don't want to say we matched that physicality because
• 40:14
  we did get beat 39 to 17. But I do feel like they hit and
• 40:19
  then we didn't just go down like we we punch back.
• 40:22
  We might have been, we might have lost the fight, but when
• 40:25
  they would have looked in the mirror, we at least gave them
• 40:27
  something. We scratched their lip or
• 40:28
  something. You know what I'm saying?
• 40:29
  Well, they they knocked us down, we got backed up and we popped
• 40:32
  them a. Few times.
• 40:34
  Sheldon, what about you? Anything that you were not
• 40:37
  prepared for on Saturday? Not really.
• 40:40
  I mean I thought maybe the the defensive acts weren't as
• 40:43
  productive as I thought. You know they done pretty well
• 40:45
  in coverage up to this point, but they got, they got clicked
• 40:48
  pretty well. I can try to find the success
• 40:52
  rate for for passing plays around 48%.
• 40:55
  So not not ideal. That's one area where tech, I
• 40:59
  think it's done a really good job this year is is, you know,
• 41:01
  keeping keeping things locked down in the passing game.
• 41:05
  You know as compared to the run game, but I don't know I mean
• 41:07
  these games are hard to analyze because you've got you know such
• 41:09
  disparity in terms of you know the the talent.
• 41:12
  I think Tech went down by about you know 9 or 10 spots and in
• 41:16
  the defensive SP Plus ranking. So you know they got they got a
• 41:20
  little bit of a downgrade there. I think you know even when
• 41:22
  you're playing it and it's really good, you can still, you
• 41:24
  can still make evaluations of of how you played.
• 41:27
  And this was just, it's just not a great game for the defense.
• 41:30
  Point blank. I mean, regardless of.
• 41:32
  If you're playing the photo site similar to the Washington
• 41:33
  Generals, you got to play. So they just, they just, they
• 41:37
  didn't, they didn't make enough plays.
• 41:40
  All right. Did not make enough plays.
• 41:41
  All right, let's go real quick. Before we wrap up this segment,
• 41:45
  let's just talk about what we can do better moving forward.
• 41:47
  Brian, what you got with this? I mean, it's proven across the
• 41:52
  board this year we cannot afford slow starts.
• 41:57
  Point blank, we cannot afford to start slow against really any
• 42:00
  competition, but especially against that level of
• 42:02
  competition, all right. Tally, what about you?
• 42:07
  Starts with the quarterback, man.
• 42:08
  I mean, they took the oil out this week, so they did.
• 42:12
  Price say it. The drones is the guy for now.
• 42:16
  He threw that in Neptune. But we all know Grant is hurt.
• 42:19
  So if we're rolling with drones and you want him to be the
• 42:21
  quarterback of the future, you got to put him in positions to
• 42:25
  be successful. And the way that he can be
• 42:29
  successful is using his legs in the passing game, using his legs
• 42:33
  to when the play breaks down. Like they got to constantly be
• 42:37
  in his ear, telling him to look for lanes, constantly be in his
• 42:41
  ear, telling him or running plays, rolling him out.
• 42:43
  Because what I've noticed is again, Florida State was really
• 42:48
  good. He was drifted.
• 42:51
  You know we're we're running plays and he's drifting back
• 42:54
  instead of rolling the pocket and it's so hard to make a, I
• 42:58
  mean you just can't. That's why we looked like we
• 43:00
  looked in the passing game. So I'm hoping this week, moving
• 43:04
  into the weight game, we got to get back into doing what he's
• 43:08
  good at. Chilling What about you?
• 43:11
  One thing we can do better moving forward.
• 43:14
  I mean I think the the keeping run game can you know be a
• 43:18
  little bit better I think I know I was looking at the stats last
• 43:21
  week and and we Jones has been one of the.
• 43:24
  Most heavily used quarterbacks in terms of design runs and I
• 43:27
  did notice that against for the state, like their difference of
• 43:30
  line was definitely keying on that stuff.
• 43:31
  Like there was one run they had the goal or knew the goal line
• 43:34
  on 1st and goal where they had a QB draw for drones and first it
• 43:39
  was right there. So, you know, obviously the
• 43:41
  defensive line will take those gaps and you know if they're
• 43:45
  expecting QB draw, they're going to play a certain way.
• 43:47
  So but it but it's a tough situation for Bone because
• 43:49
  obviously you know that's kind of like a really successful play
• 43:52
  for tech. So if defenses start keying in
• 43:53
  on that, it's getting a lot harder to to get big plays off
• 43:56
  of that. So just just find ways to get
• 43:58
  drones out in space and use his legs, which obviously are his
• 44:01
  best asset. Well, and you talk about that
• 44:05
  like that draw play, because we ran the same draw play the week
• 44:08
  before and it was a touchdown build off of it.
• 44:12
  Show that draw. Let them take one false step
• 44:15
  forward. Get the safety's out of position
• 44:17
  and cross somebody right, right where they'd be.
• 44:20
  That's why you're paid almost $1,000,000 a year.
• 44:22
  Because if my stupid self can think about something like that,
• 44:25
  I hope he can. You'll pay.
• 44:29
  Yeah, something. But the whole thing is, it's
• 44:32
  that layer, right? Teams are expecting it.
• 44:34
  Now do something they're not expecting and the next thing you
• 44:37
  know, they're sitting there and they're not moving doing
• 44:38
  anything. And the lane opens back up Make.
• 44:41
  Give me some wrinkles off of what we're already showing and
• 44:43
  what we're already successful at.
• 44:44
  If we could throw some wrinkles in there, then you at least can
• 44:47
  set. You know you use it as your
• 44:49
  bread and butter, but it also sets up some other things if
• 44:52
  they start keying on it. 100% One last piece.
• 44:56
  What we got to do better moving forward?
• 44:57
  Y'all the red zone defense got to get better.
• 45:00
  We are dead last. Y'all saw it.
• 45:01
  There's four teams, we're one of them, that every time a team has
• 45:05
  entered the red zone they have scored on us. 14 for 14 Internet
• 45:10
  and I know where to hit a day and age where kickers are
• 45:13
  better. You know, the 35 yard field
• 45:16
  goals are almost becoming something that's a 90% make,
• 45:18
  even in college. But we need a turnover.
• 45:22
  We need to block a kick. We need to effectively, you
• 45:27
  know, do something because it's killer.
• 45:31
  Like, you know, teams drive down there and score a touchdown or
• 45:34
  get a field. We'll get points every single
• 45:36
  time. It it's one of those well things
• 45:40
  and to to know that you are along with three other teams
• 45:43
  have not stopped anybody once they've got inside the 20 yard
• 45:46
  line. I mean that's got to be mental
• 45:48
  right? Like for the not only just for
• 45:52
  the defense, for the entire team, like all pass through the
• 45:54
  15, well, they're getting something here.
• 45:57
  I don't know what they're getting.
• 45:58
  It's coming. So kind of like we talked about
• 46:02
  earlier, you got to have somebody that steps up and makes
• 46:05
  a play, excuse me, you got to have a playback on there.
• 46:09
  You got to have somebody that says like we're not going to let
• 46:12
  them score. I don't know what we're going to
• 46:13
  do, but we get a pick, you know, I don't know so.
• 46:16
  What's a fumble like? What's a fumble do?
• 46:19
  Something like a kick. Do something.
• 46:23
  Get an offensive lineman in there on field goal block and
• 46:26
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• 46:29
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  Now back to the episode. All right, so let's get into it.
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  Let's get into know the enemy Wake Forest.
• 48:05
  So we play 330 ACC Network Lane Stadium.
• 48:09
  It is homecoming weekend. Sheldon, before I get into this,
• 48:12
  are you going down for Homecoming weekend?
• 48:14
  Unfortunately no. I have this thing called work
• 48:16
  which protects me from doing that.
• 48:20
  The whole damn work work, man. Forget work.
• 48:24
  The one, the one Drive back, the one drive back to working in
• 48:27
  sports is that you do have to work weekends most of the time.
• 48:31
  So that's just that's just a price you pay.
• 48:33
  The price you pay. All right, well, I'm sorry you
• 48:36
  can't go for homecoming weekend. I know.
• 48:37
  I've got. I've got a few friends here that
• 48:40
  are. They're they're going Thursday
• 48:41
  to Sunday, boys. I don't think we can get away
• 48:44
  with. That they're long haul of it.
• 48:45
  They're long haul of it. I love that shit.
• 48:47
  Yeah, Mason. Long haul of it man.
• 48:50
  I like because he's not coming Thursday night.
• 48:52
  That's why he he. He talked to me.
• 48:54
  He's like, I'll be on the road Thursday.
• 48:55
  I was like, all right, go do your thing, man.
• 48:58
  Going for it. All right, well, let's get into
• 49:00
  it and let's talk about the offense.
• 49:02
  Let's get into talk about the skiing.
• 49:04
  Let's talk about Warren Rogero scheme and little little nugget
• 49:08
  here. DDYI did or DYK did.
• 49:12
  You know Warren Go in 1990? Seven 1998 was the head coach of
• 49:17
  Glenville State. Guess who was the offensive line
• 49:22
  coach? I'm guessing Ron Crook.
• 49:26
  Ron Crook was the offensive line coach.
• 49:28
  So a little, a little nugget there.
• 49:31
  Two guys that go way back. So Brian, let's take a look.
• 49:34
  What do we have here from this game and?
• 49:38
  This is still your classic Wake Forest slow mesh RPO.
• 49:43
  Not a whole lot has changed on that front.
• 49:46
  Little bit of a less commitment to the the run game from that
• 49:50
  that slow mesh than previous iterations.
• 49:54
  Still very prevalent though, but you're going to see a little bit
• 49:55
  more of a mix of outside zone pistol and some other run calls
• 49:59
  kind of mixed in there with that slow mesh game.
• 50:02
  And the past game is absolutely predicated off of a successful
• 50:06
  rushing attack. So if they're not able to run
• 50:08
  the football, then none of the other stuff really works very
• 50:10
  well all. Right, Tally.
• 50:15
  Who are you leading off with tonight?
• 50:17
  So I guess, you know, part of that slow mesh and being able to
• 50:20
  run and throw the football would be the quarterback.
• 50:23
  So their quarterback is a Virginia, kid is Mitch
• 50:27
  Griffiths. He is 511, about 193.
• 50:33
  He's from what broad run in Ashburn, VA class of 2022.
• 50:40
  He committed really early to Wake Forest.
• 50:44
  He had offers from not super big offers.
• 50:47
  But again, I think it's because he committed so early.
• 50:51
  Appalachian State. Harvard.
• 50:53
  Kent State. I think he had a West Virginia
• 50:55
  offer as well, but he committed to Wake Forest in 2018.
• 51:03
  He was a composite 3 star, 87 guy, so you know, a little bit
• 51:08
  higher on the three star level. He was #17 in Virginia when his
• 51:15
  class came out and he was the number 22 dual threat
• 51:21
  quarterback. That's what they were calling
• 51:23
  them. And for this year he is 9
• 51:29
  touchdowns, 5 interceptions. He's got about 11:50 in yards.
• 51:39
  Yeah, that's all I got on him. Brown, what you got?
• 51:43
  Yeah, I mean, he's, he's kind of your typical Wake Forest
• 51:45
  quarterback. He doesn't have that elite.
• 51:49
  Type of arm that you see from Sam Hartman, so you're taking a
• 51:53
  step back on that front, but he still could cook pretty well in
• 51:57
  the short and intermediate passes, especially when he gets
• 52:00
  a clean pocket. Doesn't really throw on the run
• 52:03
  much despite being a threat with his legs, but he is he is really
• 52:07
  slippery between the tackles when he keeps it on those.
• 52:12
  Those reeds in the slow mesh, so that's something to look out
• 52:15
  for. I would definitely say he's more
• 52:17
  dangerous with his legs than his arm in terms of getting
• 52:21
  consistent first downs and moving the six.
• 52:25
  Not a great deep ball, but he will take a shot here or there
• 52:28
  and have some success and we'll sometimes keep on the RPO when
• 52:34
  he probably should then get. Sacked or hit unnecessarily,
• 52:37
  creating some situations where that ball is kind of floating
• 52:39
  out of that backfield and give us some opportunities for some
• 52:42
  interceptions as you noted tally with those that touchdown
• 52:46
  interception ratio. Now, Sheldon, you said you got a
• 52:50
  little, a little more deeper numbers on this kid.
• 52:54
  Yeah. So again, this is a situation
• 52:56
  where the stats kind of line up with what Brian was talking
• 52:58
  about, so. Mitch Griffiths has not had a
• 53:01
  great season. A second lowest graded
• 53:02
  quarterback in the ACC, ahead of only Anthony Calandra of UVA,
• 53:06
  who's been kind of in and out of the starting lineup.
• 53:08
  Not a ton of big time throws. They are most effective in short
• 53:11
  passing, so that's zero to 9 yards.
• 53:13
  They don't throw the ball deep a ton.
• 53:17
  Second, he is the second most Sachs quarterback in the Power
• 53:20
  Five, behind only Sugar Sanders of Colorado.
• 53:23
  So we'll get into some of the office line stuff that's not
• 53:26
  just enough to find. It's also in quick play and some
• 53:28
  other blocking as well. And in terms of their passing
• 53:33
  structure, not a ton of screens. They do not throw behind the
• 53:36
  last scrimmage much at all. Like I said, it's not just that
• 53:39
  short to intermediate passing game that works for Wake.
• 53:43
  All right, so let's talk about the next part of the slow mesh,
• 53:46
  and that's gonna be the running back room.
• 53:48
  And I wanna make a real quick point here, the gentleman I'm.
• 53:52
  Going to bring up first is usually partnered with a guy by
• 53:55
  the name of Justice Ellison. Justice is currently going
• 53:58
  through an ankle injury. He suffered it at the Georgia
• 54:01
  Tech game where he went for over 130 yards, played the first
• 54:04
  series of the Clemson game and basically rolled it up again, is
• 54:07
  what Clawson said. So and and from so the look of
• 54:10
  it, it is going to be this guy who Cali Shocker, another
• 54:15
  Virginia kid. We another Virginia kid?
• 54:21
  Yeah, Demond Claiborne out of King William.
• 54:25
  Shout out Derek, by the way, Brian.
• 54:27
  Yeah, running King William. Shout out my my wife's former
• 54:30
  employer. You're for exactly so composite,
• 54:35
  excuse me, 4 star player coming out was a 93 per 247 ranked in
• 54:40
  the top 150, a top 10 running back, a top five player in the
• 54:43
  state when he committed back in the class of 2022.
• 54:48
  So he is relatively a young buck there.
• 54:51
  He is 5 foot nine, he is £200 and right now having a pretty
• 54:56
  solid season out of the gate. 82 carries, 371 yards, 3
• 55:02
  touchdowns, only a couple receptions there.
• 55:04
  So, Brian, what are we seeing from Devin Claiborne?
• 55:10
  Yeah, as you noticed the you know he was partnering with the
• 55:13
  with Justice Ellison there. So he hasn't got it as much run
• 55:17
  as a normal lead backwood. He he's dynamic.
• 55:21
  You know, he's caught the ball a couple times out of the
• 55:22
  backfield. He he's done a little bit with
• 55:24
  it every time he's caught it. They just don't do that very
• 55:27
  often in that offense. So that's kind of why you're not
• 55:30
  seeing that finishes, runs hard, really solid vision at the point
• 55:34
  of attack. I wouldn't call him a big play
• 55:37
  threat. He's not somebody that's going
• 55:39
  to hit a ton of home runs, but he is that guy that can gash you
• 55:42
  for those. You know 15 to 25 yarders if if
• 55:46
  if you're not get if you're not getting in the gaps man he can
• 55:49
  still put up some some gas plays on you but he shouldn't be a
• 55:53
  home run threat and unless we you know pull what we did
• 55:56
  against FSU that last 85 yarders so but he will he has put the
• 56:01
  ball in the turf a couple times that that started I think it was
• 56:05
  his first drive there against Clemson put the ball in the turf
• 56:08
  there so. There's some potential to get
• 56:11
  maybe a turnover there, but overall a solid back for them.
• 56:15
  All right, Sean, I know you said you had most of the offense.
• 56:17
  You got some deeper numbers on Claiborne as well.
• 56:20
  Yeah, 74 overall grade, which is pretty solid.
• 56:23
  It hasn't translated to yards per rush.
• 56:26
  Wake hasn't been great. There's a team rushing
• 56:29
  Claiborne, not a big yards after contact guy.
• 56:31
  You'll see a lot of gap runs proportion.
• 56:33
  I think he has the most gap scheme runs in the entire ACC
• 56:37
  among running backs. And he's not been great in pass
• 56:40
  protection, 7 pressures allowed. So that's again talking about
• 56:43
  the SAC rates. That's a big reason why Wake
• 56:46
  Forest has allowed so many sacks.
• 56:47
  It's not just the ups of line, it's also been the running backs
• 56:50
  and press protection as well. All righty, Good deal.
• 56:53
  More to know about Devin Claiborne, the running back.
• 56:56
  Definitely someone we will probably see get quite a few
• 56:58
  carries on Saturday. I'm gonna flip next to the wide
• 57:01
  receiver room because once again, it's a Virginia kid.
• 57:06
  Yep. There's a theme here.
• 57:08
  There is a. Theme.
• 57:10
  There's a theme here and his name is Jamal Banks.
• 57:14
  Now, he did not go to school in Virginia though, he went up to
• 57:18
  Saint Francis. When he came out in 2020 he was
• 57:22
  an 85, considered a, you know, like a 1200 ranked player.
• 57:28
  So way back there. And when he came out it was only
• 57:31
  six £370.00, so kind of long and lanky.
• 57:35
  Now this kid's grown. He's 64, he's 208 pounds Now he
• 57:39
  is a big kid and so far this year with Jamal Banks, he has
• 57:46
  1/3 of the receptions of all the past midscripts as this
• 57:49
  completed. Just think about it with tech
• 57:53
  between Wells and drones. The closest is 17%.
• 57:58
  Jalen Lane has 17% of the calls called, so he's double what
• 58:01
  lanes get. So clearly he is their number
• 58:04
  one ride receiver. And with that 32 catches, 331
• 58:08
  yards, 3 touchdowns. Brian, based on the size and we
• 58:14
  kind of start doing the numbers at 10 to catch, I got a feeling
• 58:18
  you're going to talk about. I got a feeling I know what
• 58:21
  you're going to say about this kid.
• 58:23
  Yeah, I mean he's their stick mover.
• 58:25
  He's the guy that they run a lot of those re routes in the the
• 58:28
  slomash RPO. So he's going to be the guy that
• 58:31
  they're hitting on those a lot. But they do like to send him out
• 58:35
  on kind of a go or fade down the sideline.
• 58:39
  He uses his size that they'll do that a lot.
• 58:40
  When they get kind of in plus territory in the red zone, you
• 58:44
  start seeing those type of routes but usually between the.
• 58:48
  The 30s, you're going to see a lot more of the the intermediate
• 58:50
  stuff and trying to get them to matriculate the ball down the
• 58:53
  field a little bit and like a lot of cloths and wide
• 58:56
  receivers, he's a good stock blocker, so he he's going to do
• 59:00
  some blocking outside to try to open up some rushing lanes to
• 59:03
  and. What about banks, Mr. Moss?
• 59:09
  6th size grade skill player in the ACC probably hasn't gotten
• 59:14
  the ball as much as he would have liked.
• 59:16
  Again, not targeted a lot on deep throws you're supposed to
• 59:19
  gonna see that short zero to 9 yard range.
• 59:21
  So that's kind of where they work.
• 59:25
  All right, it's crazy. He's 6 and you expect him to get
• 59:29
  the ball more because, I mean a third of all the passes
• 59:31
  completed. I'd love to hear his target
• 59:33
  numbers, but. If you're looking for a deep
• 59:37
  thread and like Brian said, they don't throw it deep, keep an eye
• 59:40
  on Wesley Grimes. Grimes is averaging over 20 a
• 59:43
  catch from them, so he might be their big play guy.
• 59:47
  But we're going to flip real quick here and we're going to
• 59:49
  talk about the offensive line. I know Shelton has some stuff,
• 59:53
  so Sheldon, I'll let you leave. What do you have as far as their
• 59:55
  offensive line goes? And then Brian, you can do the
• 59:58
  technical stuff. Yeah, so it was kind of a tough
• 1:00:01
  unit for me to analyze just because there's lots of
• 1:00:03
  conflicting statistics. So First off, I had done this
• 1:00:07
  research a while back Virginia. Second, Wake Forest are the only
• 1:00:10
  ACC schools that have 3 starters who had no prior starting FBS
• 1:00:15
  experience. So for a full season, that is.
• 1:00:18
  So obviously with that, there's some growing pains.
• 1:00:20
  But Despite that fact, they've had had some pretty impressive
• 1:00:23
  individual standouts. Left guard Michael Jerkins,
• 1:00:26
  highest grade lineman in the conference, the tackle Spencer
• 1:00:29
  Clap, the highest grade run blocker.
• 1:00:32
  And then on the flip side, the worst grade office of lineman is
• 1:00:36
  right tackle Eric Russell, but he's still around average, so in
• 1:00:39
  terms of individual performances it's been pretty solid.
• 1:00:43
  Now with that being said, Wake Forest has generated almost 0
• 1:00:47
  explosive run plays. They've got a few in the kind of
• 1:00:50
  that 10 plus range, but in terms of like the 20 plus to 30 plus
• 1:00:53
  yard gains they have, they're very few and far in between and
• 1:00:56
  part of that could be running backs as well.
• 1:00:59
  Their success rate as an office line is you know a solid okay.
• 1:01:03
  But again it's just about those running backs not being able to
• 1:01:05
  get those those big, big gainers, they're, you know,
• 1:01:10
  they're struggling to finish drives, they don't really
• 1:01:12
  convert you know points per drive inside the 40 particularly
• 1:01:16
  well and they've also given up a lot of havoc.
• 1:01:18
  So havoc rate is mainly looking at sacks and tackles for loss
• 1:01:24
  and basically negative plays. So they've been, they've been
• 1:01:26
  pretty bad there too. You know I'd say overall again
• 1:01:30
  it's it's hard to judge because their their individual off to
• 1:01:34
  line grades are solid, but it just hasn't translated to team
• 1:01:39
  success I guess and again there's lots of reasons for that
• 1:01:42
  but you know certainly the the share the plan is kind of spread
• 1:01:46
  around pretty evenly all. Right.
• 1:01:48
  Brian, what'd you see on the tape?
• 1:01:50
  Yeah, I mean, it kind of backs up what Shelton's bringing there
• 1:01:52
  from a statistical standpoint. You know, they're not elite, but
• 1:01:57
  I'd say overall fundamentally sound.
• 1:01:59
  They play for the play with pretty solid fundamentals,
• 1:02:01
  especially in the run game. They're not going to overwhelm
• 1:02:04
  the defense, but they don't really miss a ton of assignments
• 1:02:06
  either. So they usually get some some
• 1:02:10
  pretty, you know, solid rushes. They're not falling behind the
• 1:02:13
  six, even if they're not necessarily getting those, you
• 1:02:16
  know, four or five yarders that you'd like to see to start it.
• 1:02:18
  Start a drive out and they they don't allow a ton of negative
• 1:02:22
  run plays but they will give up a lot of that in the in the
• 1:02:26
  passing game. So sacks you know QB hits things
• 1:02:32
  like that so pressures so that that's something to look out
• 1:02:35
  for. Especially with that slow mesh
• 1:02:37
  you're you're definitely going to see that there'll be some
• 1:02:39
  opportunities there if we can, you know kind of pinch them on
• 1:02:42
  the edges being able to to force Griffiths into some some rough
• 1:02:46
  situations there in the backfield.
• 1:02:48
  And what y'all are saying about the offensive line as far as the
• 1:02:51
  havoc you you spent in that Sheldon, they rank 127 in sacks
• 1:02:55
  allowed. They're giving up 4 1/2 sacks
• 1:02:57
  for her game and 22 sacks, 136 yards worth of loss.
• 1:03:03
  And they I didn't get a chance to look at the TfL and the other
• 1:03:06
  points you make about Sheldon. They're a good they're a solid
• 1:03:09
  running king, but this is what will catch your eye.
• 1:03:11
  They ranked 60th. We take 60th right now in the
• 1:03:14
  country. About 100 and 61162 yards.
• 1:03:19
  Here's a kicker though, They're one of the only teams in that
• 1:03:22
  kind of statistical range that average under 4 yards of carry.
• 1:03:26
  They're at 3.93. Go to what Sheldon just said.
• 1:03:30
  They don't explode. It is a slow grind, so
• 1:03:34
  definitely some opportunities there on the offensive side of
• 1:03:37
  the ball. Again, it's more of, to me,
• 1:03:40
  they're like the little engine that could, right?
• 1:03:42
  If. They're going to beat you.
• 1:03:43
  They're going to matriculate it. But you don't feel on 3rd down I
• 1:03:46
  was. Going to say, yeah, it's just
• 1:03:47
  kind of like it's what you expect out of out of Clawson's
• 1:03:51
  team. Like he's just a fundamentally
• 1:03:54
  sound coach. He's always got a well coach
• 1:03:57
  team. They usually do the small things
• 1:04:00
  right, You know, they don't overwhelm you with Flash, but he
• 1:04:06
  always has a solid team. So again, we can't take them
• 1:04:10
  lightly. All the stuff that we're talking
• 1:04:12
  about is what? I'm sure the coaches are looking
• 1:04:15
  at it and and and are going to have to correct.
• 1:04:17
  So I think Brian just said it. You got to get off the field on
• 1:04:21
  3rd down. You got to because they're
• 1:04:25
  probably going to be in a lot of 3rd and fours, you know 3rd and
• 1:04:30
  threes because of how they play and you got to give yourself a
• 1:04:35
  chance. You got to get off the field.
• 1:04:38
  Alright, and the other point is you you mentioned that, but it's
• 1:04:41
  also Sheldon again everything's. Job and with some of the stats
• 1:04:45
  120th and tackle for loss, they're giving up eight tackles
• 1:04:48
  for loss. Again, I want 15.
• 1:04:52
  I want 15 combined sacks. Tackle for loss in this case.
• 1:04:56
  Hey. We do.
• 1:04:57
  That should be no problem. We're going to flip over to the
• 1:05:02
  defensive side of the ball. Now.
• 1:05:04
  Let's talk about that. Let's talk about Brad Lambert,
• 1:05:07
  someone JC Price very familiar with because he was this
• 1:05:09
  defensive coordinator while JC was down at Marshall.
• 1:05:13
  Brian, what sort of scheme is Mr. Lambert running here?
• 1:05:18
  Yeah, this is a 4/3. They've got a stand up edge that
• 1:05:21
  they use versus having two guys with their hand in the dirt.
• 1:05:27
  You know, looking at Lambert, I mean really everywhere he's
• 1:05:29
  been, the defense is kind of taking a step forward.
• 1:05:31
  So solid, solid coordinator, does a good job of getting a
• 1:05:37
  good amount out of the talent that he's given, especially at
• 1:05:39
  those stops. So, and this is a return trip
• 1:05:42
  for him to wake for us. He was there a couple years back
• 1:05:44
  as well, so he's circling back home a little bit here.
• 1:05:49
  All righty. Well, let's.
• 1:05:50
  Talk about some of the players. And we're going to start with
• 1:05:53
  Jacob Roberts. Jacob Roberts actually a portal
• 1:05:59
  guy, he was one of the top linebackers in the country.
• 1:06:02
  He was played down at North Carolina AT literally right next
• 1:06:06
  door down there to Wake Forest, both in the Triad and he is from
• 1:06:11
  Mallard Creek. That's a damn good high school
• 1:06:13
  down in the Charlotte area now. And so far this season Really
• 1:06:19
  racking up the stats. 40 total tackles, 6 1/2 tackles for loss,
• 1:06:24
  including that are 5 sacks. Also has a forced fumble.
• 1:06:28
  So definitely a a dynamic player from the stat wise.
• 1:06:35
  What's the tape say, Brian? Yeah, I mean he's he's really
• 1:06:39
  good at avoiding blockers and making tackles in the run game.
• 1:06:44
  Solid pursuit. Takes good angles.
• 1:06:47
  But you know, overall I'd say he's not really good in
• 1:06:49
  coverage, especially if he gets matched up in man
• 1:06:51
  responsibilities. Not very good at that.
• 1:06:55
  That area. They will use him on blitzes.
• 1:06:59
  He'll get, he'll get after the quarterback solid in that area
• 1:07:04
  of his game, but nothing that I would say would be scary.
• 1:07:08
  But. But he will get after the passer
• 1:07:09
  a little bit. So just probably some opportune
• 1:07:12
  timed. Blitzes, Yeah.
• 1:07:14
  It's more kind of scheme based. It's not, it's not anything he
• 1:07:17
  does necessarily at the lead level, but between the scheme
• 1:07:23
  and his, just his ability, he's able to, you know, make some
• 1:07:26
  plays here or there. Good deal.
• 1:07:27
  Anything deeper in the stats, Shelton on this guy?
• 1:07:31
  Yeah, he's really good at pass rush around the 81 grade.
• 1:07:34
  He's got 8 pressures in the season, which is pretty good for
• 1:07:36
  a linebacker. OK, interesting.
• 1:07:38
  So definitely we it correlates with that blitzing that.
• 1:07:42
  It might be his biggest strong suit and something we need to
• 1:07:44
  watch out for, especially with the way our line sometimes plays
• 1:07:49
  Tally who's next? We got Jay Sheen Davis.
• 1:07:53
  He's from Snellville, GA Class of 2020.
• 1:07:58
  Went to Shiloh High School, I think it's called.
• 1:08:01
  He was a four-star guy, 2474 star guy, rated a 90 out of high
• 1:08:09
  school. Top 500 guy.
• 1:08:12
  It looks like 479 in the nation coming out of high school.
• 1:08:17
  He has some pretty decent offers.
• 1:08:19
  You know, Arkansas's in there. He had offers from Virginia
• 1:08:22
  Tech. He had offers from, I think LSU
• 1:08:26
  was in there just about the whole ACC as well as Penn State,
• 1:08:32
  Michigan. So he has some pretty decent
• 1:08:34
  offers for what it looked like, 6-3. 63235 coming out of high
• 1:08:41
  school, I think he's right at about 25 tackles this year, 4
• 1:08:48
  1/2 sacks. So I mean, he's getting in the
• 1:08:50
  backfield. He is causing some chaos.
• 1:08:53
  Brian, what you got on him? Yeah, so I talked about the edge
• 1:08:57
  players. One's the stand up, one's the
• 1:08:59
  hand of the dirt. He's the hand of the dirt.
• 1:09:01
  Guy uses his hands really well to shed blockers and get after
• 1:09:05
  the quarterback. They they like moving him
• 1:09:08
  around. He's strong enough to play like
• 1:09:11
  they slide him inside to a three or a four.
• 1:09:14
  Eye technique holds up really well when they shift the front
• 1:09:17
  for those blitz looks that they like to bring.
• 1:09:19
  And I definitely say overall he's their best defensive player
• 1:09:22
  all. Right.
• 1:09:25
  Any any extras on this one? Shelton, another guy that's also
• 1:09:29
  very good in pass rush, top five grad in ACC and he's also pretty
• 1:09:35
  good in the run game, looking up the grade right now.
• 1:09:40
  Yeah. So, so pretty solid in the run
• 1:09:41
  game and really good in pass rush.
• 1:09:42
  Kind of like like the case for for Jacob Roberts it.
• 1:09:47
  Looks like we're looking at their right players and we're
• 1:09:51
  gonna talk about one more guy. Let's go to the back end of this
• 1:09:53
  and let's talk about the Shawn Jones.
• 1:09:57
  Deshaun Jones was a low three star when he came out in 2021.
• 1:10:03
  You take a look at his offer list.
• 1:10:05
  The other most exciting offer is probably Kansas.
• 1:10:10
  Some some SCS offers got like Elon on there, so not a huge
• 1:10:14
  offer. List was ranked way down and he
• 1:10:18
  was an 83 when he came out of Mount Saint Joseph High School
• 1:10:23
  out of Baltimore, MD, but so far this season.
• 1:10:27
  He's having a really good 115 total tackles.
• 1:10:30
  He is leading the ACC and interceptions with three in last
• 1:10:35
  season as a richer freshman. 5 past deflections So clearly
• 1:10:42
  maybe a little bit of a hawk here.
• 1:10:44
  Brian. What's the tape saying on the
• 1:10:46
  Sean Jones. Yeah, he.
• 1:10:48
  Plays primarily lines up at that left corner, back position.
• 1:10:52
  Definitely his best overall cover corner on the team.
• 1:10:56
  I'd give him a higher grade in man coverage than zone, but he's
• 1:11:00
  pretty solid in both. I'd call him a willing tackler,
• 1:11:05
  but he's also a guy that will miss tackles when he kind of
• 1:11:08
  gets his nose in there. And I'd say he could be a little
• 1:11:11
  more physical when when playing the ball versus trying to get in
• 1:11:17
  there to to to get the interception.
• 1:11:20
  There's there's some opportunities where.
• 1:11:23
  If he was a little more physical there, you might get a pass
• 1:11:26
  breakup versus the the reception so but definitely their overall
• 1:11:32
  best defensive back and pretty solid cover corner.
• 1:11:36
  Right. Anything additional on him,
• 1:11:38
  Shelton? No.
• 1:11:41
  He actually, oddly enough, it was kind of a weird situation
• 1:11:44
  because he did not grade particularly well.
• 1:11:47
  I would say more so since the Elon game which is you know the
• 1:11:49
  first game of the season. But he is a big tackler and
• 1:11:53
  he'll get some some few stops here and there coverage wise,
• 1:11:57
  pretty solid run, a 66 pass rating against which you know
• 1:12:01
  it's, I mean that's a that's a pretty good number.
• 1:12:04
  So he's he's good in coverage. Alrighty, so there are some of
• 1:12:08
  the defensive players and some ideas of what we should see
• 1:12:12
  scheme wise from the Wake Forest Demon Deacons on Saturday
• 1:12:15
  afternoon. Let's roll to it.
• 1:12:18
  Next, boys, Let's talk about the hokey keys.
• 1:12:20
  I'm gonna start at the bottom here.
• 1:12:21
  Shelton, what is one of your big keys for the game on Saturday?
• 1:12:27
  Well, put me on the spot early, I would say kind of what I
• 1:12:32
  talked about last week, success on early downs.
• 1:12:34
  Defensively Wake Forest tends to struggle a lot on those early
• 1:12:38
  down situations and I feel like with the way they're passing
• 1:12:41
  offensive structured you can get them in you know third long test
• 1:12:44
  may pretty big because they just they just don't have the I would
• 1:12:47
  say downfield passing attack required to convert those.
• 1:12:51
  You know this obvious passing downs with the way that Griffith
• 1:12:53
  has struggled the way their their offensive line has been
• 1:12:56
  hit or missed and pass protection.
• 1:12:58
  I just think the the the easiest way to win this game is get them
• 1:13:01
  an obvious passing downs all. Right, give them an obvious pass
• 1:13:05
  and then tally. What about for you?
• 1:13:06
  What are some keys you thinking about in this game?
• 1:13:08
  You got to get QB one involved, man.
• 1:13:10
  You got to get QB One involved in the running game early.
• 1:13:15
  You know we don't need to come out and unless you're coming out
• 1:13:18
  throwing a bomb on the first play, trying to just catch
• 1:13:21
  somebody sleeping, we need to come out and we need to run the
• 1:13:24
  ball. We need to come out and we need
• 1:13:25
  to get car and drones involved in the run games.
• 1:13:28
  And also roll that pocket for him because he looks pretty good
• 1:13:31
  when we rolled a pocket and he's kind of throwing on the run.
• 1:13:36
  All righty, Brian. What about you?
• 1:13:41
  No rushes over 30 yards this week. 30 yards. 30 yards,
• 1:13:47
  capital to 30. That's a pretty big key, so I
• 1:13:52
  ain't mad at him. That is a big key and and I'm
• 1:13:56
  I'm all kind of piggyback something that we've been
• 1:13:59
  talking about. We got to start fast.
• 1:14:01
  You talking about that bomb Tally.
• 1:14:03
  Let's throw the bomb. Let's look at Felton going deep
• 1:14:05
  early. Or catching with a big play
• 1:14:07
  early. I think that is going to help.
• 1:14:10
  I think it'll help even more because now we know how this
• 1:14:13
  team is paced. The other piece is I think we've
• 1:14:16
  got to force some turnovers. We see Griffiths obviously will
• 1:14:20
  throw some picks. We obviously know Claiborne will
• 1:14:25
  put some on the ground. So to me, very key that we get
• 1:14:32
  at least one. I'd like to see two.
• 1:14:35
  But we've got to win it. We cannot give them the
• 1:14:37
  opportunities because of how they play the game and then
• 1:14:41
  getting the ball off turnovers. It's going to put us at a
• 1:14:44
  disadvantage because I know they're going to want to slow it
• 1:14:46
  down and it'll be interesting to see how that goes.
• 1:14:50
  I mean it's it's lining up good for us as far as what we're
• 1:14:55
  seeing, what we're good at, what they're not good at, what they
• 1:14:57
  are good at. It's this is the team that's
• 1:15:01
  coming to our house that we can be.
• 1:15:04
  This is going to be a big week. I said it on Twitter earlier
• 1:15:07
  this week. This not more than any other
• 1:15:10
  game. But you know, this is going to
• 1:15:12
  be one of the more important games for Pride this year
• 1:15:14
  because where we're at right now, we're two and four.
• 1:15:19
  Everybody expected you to lose to Florida State.
• 1:15:23
  Everybody did. Nobody expected you to win.
• 1:15:25
  So it wasn't a huge backlash on losing that game.
• 1:15:29
  People are going to critique it, but this Wake team is coming to
• 1:15:32
  your house. The line has shifted.
• 1:15:34
  We opened up as 3 point underdogs I think and the line
• 1:15:38
  has shifted to now we're favorite I think 1 1/2 points.
• 1:15:43
  Vegas knows something. The hokey fans know something
• 1:15:47
  that fucking coaching staff better know something.
• 1:15:50
  You get out there, you're at home, you use the crowd, you go
• 1:15:54
  beat them. You need to go and beat this
• 1:15:56
  team from starter game to the finish of the game.
• 1:15:59
  Like you don't need to be in no fucking hell game with them.
• 1:16:02
  Because Clawson is a good coach and his team is going to be well
• 1:16:06
  coached. So this is, and the reason I say
• 1:16:09
  it's a very important game for pride because when you're going
• 1:16:12
  to get a coach like him, you got out coaching.
• 1:16:15
  So for pride he can show that he can out coach good coaches in
• 1:16:19
  this game all. Righty.
• 1:16:22
  Well, let's get into it, because now we got to make our
• 1:16:24
  predictions here. And and make some big strangers,
• 1:16:28
  because as always, we are watching a lot more than just
• 1:16:31
  the hoagies game. Just it's who we are.
• 1:16:33
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• 1:16:48
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• 1:16:51
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• 1:17:02
  Cincinnati, yeah. You'll see that happening, yeah.
• 1:17:04
  All right. There's Brian, he said.
• 1:17:06
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• 1:17:29
  synopsis last week Brian 3, two and one.
• 1:17:33
  Shelton four, one and one. Tally 2-3 and one and myself
• 1:17:37
  four, one and one. Fade, tally, whatever Tally says
• 1:17:42
  when we get to the big screeners, go the opposite way.
• 1:17:46
  Wait, Tally, I'm going to throw it to you first.
• 1:17:47
  When it comes to predicting this hokey game right now.
• 1:17:51
  There's the line right there. What do you think?
• 1:17:55
  You know, I wanted to fade myself because that's just what
• 1:17:58
  I wanted to do. But I got the hokeys winning
• 1:18:01
  this thing, and I'm going to go ahead and give you a score
• 1:18:03
  prediction. I got the hokeys taking this
• 1:18:05
  game 2414. All right.
• 1:18:09
  Crime's going to be in it. We're at home.
• 1:18:12
  Y'all got all maroon. Well, we'll talk about that off
• 1:18:16
  the cab. I guess with Curtis you got
• 1:18:18
  mostly maroon. Mostly, not all maroon.
• 1:18:21
  Mostly. Maroon, Curtis said.
• 1:18:22
  Fuck them stripes. You got mostly maroon.
• 1:18:26
  Go win the game. Go win the game.
• 1:18:29
  Crime. What about you?
• 1:18:31
  I am, as always. I'm going with the Hokies, man.
• 1:18:35
  I think this is a a good opportunity to get back on the
• 1:18:38
  right track. It's going to put them in a
• 1:18:40
  position where they still have an outside shot at making a bowl
• 1:18:44
  this season. This is not a very good Wake
• 1:18:47
  Forest team. This is not probably the worst
• 1:18:49
  Wake Forest team we've probably seen in at least probably four
• 1:18:52
  or five years. So this is an opportunity.
• 1:18:56
  Yeah, Sam Harvey's out there. This is an opportunity to punch
• 1:19:00
  him in the mouth a little bit and get back on track.
• 1:19:04
  Right. Brian with the win as well.
• 1:19:05
  Sheldon, what about you? Even the Hokie is straight up
• 1:19:08
  2421. I think Wake Forest is really
• 1:19:10
  beatable. I think their offense is not
• 1:19:12
  great and I think Phil Dare's pain is going to cook.
• 1:19:15
  As the Katie's would say. Give me the Hokies.
• 1:19:18
  I forgot I didn't give my prediction 3127 Hokies. 3127
• 1:19:22
  Hokies got it all right. I'm with y'all back on the
• 1:19:26
  Choosing the Hokie train. Again I I I think the way the
• 1:19:31
  offense the defensive line excuse me, played last week
• 1:19:35
  getting pressure on Jordan Travis and getting pressure
• 1:19:41
  against a much better defensive line definitely carries the
• 1:19:43
  Hokies through that and I think to what we said, I think you
• 1:19:47
  know the the the run defense for Wake is solid but I think we can
• 1:19:52
  break some give me Hokies 3123. So we we we win and we cover.
• 1:20:01
  All righty. Now we get to go to the big
• 1:20:04
  screeners. It is actually some sneaky good
• 1:20:07
  games this week. I still don't think it beat a
• 1:20:08
  couple weeks ago, but still some sneaky good games in mind.
• 1:20:13
  I am going with the Miami Hurricanes versus the North
• 1:20:17
  Carolina Tar Heels. North Carolina is laying 3 1/2
• 1:20:22
  at home in this game and I might be crazy but.
• 1:20:28
  And everything I keep thinking about what happened with Miami
• 1:20:31
  and Georgia Tech, I feel like they were looking forward to the
• 1:20:34
  game against Carolina because it was supposed to be 5 and O
• 1:20:36
  versus 5 and O2 top 15 teams. And for just a split second,
• 1:20:43
  Mario Cristobal thought about that and handed the ball off
• 1:20:46
  instead of taking a knee. I don't know who wins this game,
• 1:20:49
  but I think it's going to be a tight battle.
• 1:20:51
  We saw Miami absolutely annihilate Texas A and M down at
• 1:20:55
  home, and I know that was at home.
• 1:20:57
  It ain't much of A home field advantage down there because
• 1:21:00
  they'd only show up when they're like 7:00 and 9:00 and oh,
• 1:21:03
  anything less than that. Miami fans don't show up, but I
• 1:21:06
  think it's going to be close enough where I will take 3 1/2
• 1:21:09
  points and let it ride. Give me EU to Alley.
• 1:21:14
  Who you got on this one? Like Curtis said, Curtis said.
• 1:21:19
  You know, they, they might have been looking ahead, you know,
• 1:21:22
  and coach handed the ball off. But it was a lot of stuff
• 1:21:24
  happened after that. They handed the ball off, they
• 1:21:27
  fumbled, they got on defense. They gave up a big play.
• 1:21:31
  They knew they had to not let a man get in the end zone.
• 1:21:34
  Then they gave up another play, got behind everybody.
• 1:21:36
  It wasn't even the hell, Mary. He was just open.
• 1:21:39
  They're going to go into Chapel Hill and they're going to get
• 1:21:41
  their ass beat. That's what they're going up
• 1:21:44
  there. They're going up there.
• 1:21:45
  They're losing. Like Senator was on the sideline
• 1:21:48
  crying, asking them what the fuck are we doing?
• 1:21:52
  He's still saying that all week. So are you Shelton?
• 1:22:00
  Yeah, I think there's going to be a little bit of a a clash of
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  culture, so to speak, in that Miami locker room.
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  I think they're going to come in a little bit dazed into Keenan
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  Memorial. I think Unc's going to lay a
• 1:22:10
  smack in on him. So I got UNC all right.
• 1:22:14
  And you know what? We're going to make it three in
• 1:22:16
  a row here. I I think that UNC is going to
• 1:22:19
  handle some business. I think Miami, I think really
• 1:22:23
  got exposed a little bit against Georgia Tech.
• 1:22:27
  I don't think some of what we saw was a fluke.
• 1:22:30
  And I think that UNC's offense is just going to be too much for
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  them. All righty, got it.
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  Everybody's got the name on the line now, so no crying about it
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  on Saturday night. Ally, you picked the next one
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  and Tally's going way, way, way out West to Husky Stadium and
• 1:22:51
  the Puget Sound 75,000 plus. You know, this is an interesting
• 1:22:59
  game, and I haven't watched a ton of of Washington games, but
• 1:23:04
  I know that they're that quarterback Sabala.
• 1:23:09
  Matter of fact, I think he left Indiana, right?
• 1:23:12
  So Justin Fuente fits White in now.
• 1:23:15
  They run quarterbacks off and then they go somewhere else and
• 1:23:17
  have Heisman careers. Perfect job.
• 1:23:20
  I'm taking Oregon in this game. I just think Oregon's going to
• 1:23:23
  be the better team and and they're going to win the game.
• 1:23:28
  All righty, Sheldon, you're up next on this one.
• 1:23:31
  This is going to be an awesome game, but I'm going to take
• 1:23:34
  Oregon. I had a tough time picking it
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  because I think you got two really good teams, but I just
• 1:23:38
  like Bo Nicks. And I think Washington's going
• 1:23:41
  to come out a little bit too empt up with their home crowd.
• 1:23:43
  So give me Oregon, Brian. I've got Oregon, too.
• 1:23:49
  I think that the Huskies have probably the better quarterback
• 1:23:53
  overall, but I think that Oregon top to bottom is the better team
• 1:23:57
  and they're going to get it done.
• 1:24:00
  You talk about that home field advantage, it is a home field
• 1:24:03
  advantage at Custi Stadium. I think the Huskies come out and
• 1:24:07
  win this game by more than three points.
• 1:24:09
  I think by touchdown. I think Michael Pennix has some
• 1:24:11
  moments. And by the way, y'all y'all
• 1:24:14
  didn't listen to Tally's advice. He said fade him, not go with
• 1:24:17
  him on picks. They did it.
• 1:24:20
  They did it before we got on there.
• 1:24:22
  They didn't know. They didn't know what you were
• 1:24:24
  picking. All right, Brian, What is your
• 1:24:28
  game of the week, Sir? Yeah, I've got the, I've got
• 1:24:32
  UCLA. Oregon State, Oregon State is
• 1:24:37
  laying the 3 1/2 and you know what, Oregon State, man, they're
• 1:24:43
  going to take care of business. I think what we saw from UCLA
• 1:24:47
  last week is promising, but I think Oregon State just top to
• 1:24:52
  bottom is going to be able to handle that, all the noise and
• 1:24:55
  take care of business. Yeah, I'm with you as well on
• 1:24:59
  this one, Brian. Give me Oregon State, I'll lay
• 1:25:00
  the 3 1/2. I mean, UCLA was playing wazoo
• 1:25:05
  last week. It was a good game.
• 1:25:08
  But DJU he he keeps proving over and over he want the problem at
• 1:25:14
  Clemson. He want the problem at Clemson.
• 1:25:19
  So give me the later points. Take the Beavers.
• 1:25:25
  Is it what I mean there? So yeah, I'm going to go with
• 1:25:28
  what my man Thomas Train said. I mean, I think you UCLA is
• 1:25:32
  playing some defense, man. You know, a lot of times we
• 1:25:35
  don't see defense out there. I think UCLA is playing decent
• 1:25:39
  defense and that's the that's the only way you're going.
• 1:25:42
  You're going to beat the DJ, so I'm taking UCLA.
• 1:25:47
  She'll wrap us up here. Take an Oregon State, because
• 1:25:50
  UCLA is coming off a big win, and typically I like to.
• 1:25:54
  Pick against team teams that are coming up.
• 1:25:55
  Big wins. Fade, Fade.
• 1:25:58
  The big wins fade. The big win, by the way.
• 1:26:02
  DJ Ugale. 10 touchdowns passing, 3 rushing and just three picks
• 1:26:09
  of 13 to 3 touchdown. The interception ratio so far
• 1:26:14
  this year for the four and one Beavers.
• 1:26:17
  Alright, Shelton, what is your game?
• 1:26:22
  What is in that game? We'll have to go.
• 1:26:25
  If I can see it, yes, USC, indeed.
• 1:26:27
  So another really good one. I'm taking another game because,
• 1:26:31
  as always, in keeping with my philosophy, they're coming off a
• 1:26:36
  very tough loss to Louisville. So I think they're gonna bounce
• 1:26:38
  back, and I think they're gonna be USC.
• 1:26:42
  All righty, Bron. You know what?
• 1:26:45
  I'm trusting this Sheldon here. I think that what we saw last
• 1:26:49
  week was not indicative of what. Notre Dame is capable of I think
• 1:26:54
  they have a good bounce back week this week.
• 1:26:56
  I think you see Hartman play a much better, better game this
• 1:26:59
  week and they take care of the Trojans.
• 1:27:04
  Nah, not so fast. Not so fast.
• 1:27:07
  They struggle with that Louisville offense, and I know
• 1:27:09
  Braun is a very good head coach and a very good offensive mind,
• 1:27:13
  but so does Lincoln Riley. And Lincoln Riley got a lot more
• 1:27:16
  weapons. Where is this game?
• 1:27:20
  I did not get a chance to look at that regardless.
• 1:27:23
  I'm assuming. Yeah, it's got to be at Notre
• 1:27:24
  Dame if they're favored by just the normal hook.
• 1:27:28
  Yeah, I I I don't know if I mean it could get as ugly as it did
• 1:27:31
  late Saturday night because it got ugly late Saturday night
• 1:27:34
  because that often is not clicking for Notre Dame.
• 1:27:38
  Take the over, whatever that is. I'll look it up while Tally
• 1:27:41
  gives this prediction here. Man, just watching again, I I'd
• 1:27:46
  really like Sam Hartman. I think he's a a good
• 1:27:48
  quarterback and just a good, good kid.
• 1:27:52
  But in a lot of games that I've watched Notre Dame, they're not
• 1:27:55
  scoring a lot of points. I don't think USC has a good
• 1:27:59
  defense, but I know they got a damn good offense.
• 1:28:02
  So unless Notre Dame's going to score points with them, I think.
• 1:28:07
  I think it's over with. I think Caleb Williams and USC
• 1:28:11
  goes in there and wins and the the over under is 62 1/2.
• 1:28:17
  I think I would take the over on that right now as we speak.
• 1:28:21
  That's at Notre Dame Stadium 730.
• 1:28:23
  Some really good set, some really good nightcap games.
• 1:28:25
  Carolina Miami's A nightcap game, and this next one we're
• 1:28:29
  going to discuss is a nightcap game.
• 1:28:30
  And I threw it on here because a if Duke wins this game, Mike
• 1:28:37
  Elko will be the Michigan State head coach.
• 1:28:40
  Book it if he's not already in principle signed with them so.
• 1:28:45
  Curtis what? You said he gone already, He
• 1:28:49
  gone already. He they they willing to pay
• 1:28:51
  somebody $100 million up there to be an average coach in plus
• 1:28:57
  with Elko I think he fits in that Coaching at Notre Dame for
• 1:29:00
  a few years. Coaching at wait for a few
• 1:29:02
  years. I think he fits what probably
• 1:29:04
  they want to do. But this game again another
• 1:29:07
  Saturday night game if y'all see it.
• 1:29:09
  Duke lay in 3 1/2. Brian, leave us off.
• 1:29:14
  It's Duke. I don't trust what NC State's
• 1:29:18
  doing on offense, so until they show me something on offense, I
• 1:29:23
  can't trust them anymore. So I'm going Duke here.
• 1:29:25
  Same, same. Even though they showed
• 1:29:27
  something against Marshall. We've seen you take care of a
• 1:29:31
  lot more talented teams late at 3 1/2.
• 1:29:34
  I think Duke wins by like 10. What's going on with Duke's
• 1:29:38
  quarterback? Not good.
• 1:29:42
  He's out. He's out.
• 1:29:45
  North Carolina State has a tackling machine over there.
• 1:29:48
  Whoever they put in there, if they're not ready, Peyton Wilson
• 1:29:51
  is going to feast. I don't think that the office is
• 1:29:55
  that good, but I know Duke's quarterback was the machine that
• 1:29:59
  drove their offense, so I'm taking North Carolina State,
• 1:30:05
  Sheldon last. One, yeah, yeah, it feels like
• 1:30:08
  Wilson's been in college for forever.
• 1:30:09
  But anyways, I was like, this is the type of game where, you
• 1:30:12
  know, a team's missing a quarterback and you think, Oh
• 1:30:14
  well, they're going to lose, but they come out and just play with
• 1:30:17
  their hair on fire. I think NC State is going to get
• 1:30:19
  thoroughly out coached just based on gut field, and I think
• 1:30:22
  Duke's going to win the game there we go.
• 1:30:25
  Fade there. That's what I would have did.
• 1:30:27
  Perfect tally we faded y'all faded me.
• 1:30:34
  Then we fade a tally. Yeah, good job.
• 1:30:36
  I blame you. Anything else breaking tonight?
• 1:30:40
  Hey, look, y'all like 90 minutes.
• 1:30:42
  We got it right on time this time.
• 1:30:43
  What we got right down the middle.
• 1:30:45
  Man, we got Sheldon working now we got to get him in bed at a
• 1:30:48
  good time. That's right.
• 1:30:52
  Needs a good eight hours. Listen, there are there are
• 1:30:54
  points in your life where you just sacrificed to sleep.
• 1:30:57
  This is one of them. This is one of the nights right
• 1:30:59
  here that I'll sacrifice sleep along with Sunday night.
• 1:31:04
  I sacrifice sleep Sunday night, boys.
• 1:31:07
  Yeah, you saw Kettle's fucking legacy game, man.
• 1:31:12
  Legacy game. Trifecta touchdowns.
• 1:31:15
  And I think that was our defense.
• 1:31:16
  Legacy game because Dallas Y'all didn't know I'm a 49ers fan, but
• 1:31:20
  a 49ers fan since I was a kid that was a throttling that was a
• 1:31:26
  beat down and I've happily stayed up and watched every snap
• 1:31:30
  of that game until 11:30 on Sunday to go to work on Monday.
• 1:31:34
  So I would have to, yeah, I had to have something that you feel
• 1:31:38
  good after Saturday night, especially my fantasy team ain't
• 1:31:40
  doing good either. Alrighty is.
• 1:31:42
  Anything breaking, nothing breaking.
• 1:31:45
  But Andrea, to keep your head up, man.
• 1:31:47
  I've been sending your comments. Keep your head up.
• 1:31:52
  I'm going to put this out here. It was tweeted about 7:30, so a
• 1:31:55
  little bit before Eric Hoback, who writes for Inside or
• 1:31:58
  Streaking the Lawn, one of the UVA sites.
• 1:32:02
  He is saying multiple sources close to the situation.
• 1:32:06
  Key UVA donors have effectively gotten the money to buy out Tony
• 1:32:10
  Elliott and his staff. Oh, already.
• 1:32:17
  Already I want him to stay there for a little while.
• 1:32:19
  What he doing? Yeah, he bullshitting over
• 1:32:22
  there. So just take that what you will.
• 1:32:27
  I don't know if anything's gonna come to fruition of it.
• 1:32:30
  Again, he's saying they've got the money to do it.
• 1:32:33
  The question is, do you just flip it and rip it?
• 1:32:36
  And who's actually going to be willing to go and coach UVA?
• 1:32:40
  I think that's the problem with pulling the like you know this
• 1:32:43
  isn't. You know USC, This isn't
• 1:32:46
  Florida. This isn't any you know,
• 1:32:48
  Tennessee. This isn't a place where you can
• 1:32:50
  pull the plug really quick and still attract top talent.
• 1:32:53
  Like this was a tough, tough job to accept without the the
• 1:32:59
  feeling that you're only going to get one year, two years to
• 1:33:03
  show what you can do before the plug gets pulled on you.
• 1:33:06
  So I don't know if this is the best idea just from UVA
• 1:33:11
  standpoint, I'm. I I would much rather say keep
• 1:33:17
  Tony in there because I think we're doing a much better job on
• 1:33:21
  the at least the things off the field compared to what what's
• 1:33:25
  going on over at Eva. So if we could keep that up, all
• 1:33:29
  the better. But if Eva wants to move on, I
• 1:33:32
  feel like they're going to have just as hard a time getting a
• 1:33:34
  quality candidate coming in there, especially after doing
• 1:33:36
  something like that, so. What if they get food like
• 1:33:39
  Thomas said? Please, please, absolutely.
• 1:33:47
  Yeah, he'll go prove to us that he is a good coach and he'll go
• 1:33:50
  win the ACC over there. I'll be pissed fucking one day.
• 1:33:56
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• 1:33:59
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