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- 0:32SPEAKER_39: Does anybody put any stock into the predictions made regarding the forecast that come from farmers' almanacs?
- 0:47SPEAKER_39: Is it more of just uh, oh, this is interesting?
- 0:51SPEAKER_39: Let's see if the prediction is correct.
- 0:54SPEAKER_39: Or are there individuals that actually look at what the farmers almanac says about the you know upcoming, in this case, winter season, and they end up actually putting some stock in that.
- 1:08SPEAKER_39: I say that because I grabbed the story this morning.
- 1:10SPEAKER_39: I did it just anecdotally.
- 1:12SPEAKER_39: You know, I'm looking forward to the holidays, looking forward to uh, and that for me begins around uh October, but I'm you know, I'm looking I'm looking forward to the holidays this year.
- 1:20SPEAKER_39: I'm looking forward to some cooler temperatures.
- 1:22SPEAKER_39: I'm sure by the time we get into the backside of winter next year, I'll be begging for warmer temperatures.
- 1:30SPEAKER_39: But right now I'm kinda I'm kind of over the warmer temps.
- 1:35SPEAKER_39: I'm ready to put a few layers uh on.
- 1:38SPEAKER_39: I think uh producer Devin, who joins me this morning, is nodding his head.
- 1:41SPEAKER_39: I think you agree a little tiny bit, yeah.
- 1:43SPEAKER_39: Absolutely.
- 1:43SPEAKER_39: You're ready to put your shorts away and put some long pants back on.
- 1:46SPEAKER_39: Definitely.
- 1:46SPEAKER_39: Plus, it ushers in.
- 1:47SPEAKER_39: I know for a for a sports fan such as yourself, you know, that ushers in the football season fully when it's the best time of the year.
- 1:54SPEAKER_39: There you go.
- 1:55SPEAKER_39: See?
- 1:55SPEAKER_39: So um I grabbed this this morning.
- 1:58SPEAKER_39: Uh it says, word of advice: don't change any of your vacation plans based on the old farmer, farmers almanac's winter forecast.
- 2:09SPEAKER_39: Okay.
- 2:10SPEAKER_39: If you want a cold and snowy winter, head east.
- 2:14SPEAKER_39: That's a recommendation based on the very questionable winter forecast issued Monday by the old farmers uh almanac.
- 2:23SPEAKER_39: I believe I got this from uh from Bring Me the News.
- 2:26SPEAKER_39: I think that's where I grabbed it from.
- 2:28SPEAKER_39: Um, we'll be talking more about them later on on the show today.
- 2:31SPEAKER_39: It is the John Justice show presented by American Experiment.
- 2:33SPEAKER_39: I'm glad you're with us this morning.
- 2:35SPEAKER_39: Um, for Minnesota, the old farmers almanac, which is not to be confused with the farmers almanac, calls for a mild and dry winter, except in the arrowhead, which falls into the mid and wet category.
- 2:53SPEAKER_39: You know, if the farmer's almanac doesn't want to be confused with the old farmer's almanac, then they just need to call the new farmer's almanac.
- 3:01SPEAKER_39: But it's probably the OG.
- 3:03SPEAKER_39: So well, I don't know if it's the old farmer's almanac.
- 3:06SPEAKER_39: I would think that was the original one, right?
- 3:07SPEAKER_39: Either way.
- 3:08SPEAKER_39: Uh the old farmer's almanac claims the snowiest periods of the upcoming uh winter season will be in early January, late February, and early March.
- 3:17SPEAKER_39: Isn't that how it always is?
- 3:21SPEAKER_39: Whatever.
- 3:22SPEAKER_39: I'm sure I'll get a lot of well, I would anticipate I'll get a lot of comments on this this morning.
- 3:27SPEAKER_39: By the way, you can text or leave a voice blast by calling the new line, 651-964-0294.
- 3:36SPEAKER_39: One more time.
- 3:36SPEAKER_39: 651-964-0294.
- 3:40SPEAKER_39: Now, if you do call the old number, that number still works.
- 3:43SPEAKER_39: It'll forward you to the new, to the new blaster line if you want to comment on this or anything that we have to talk about on the show uh this morning.
- 3:51SPEAKER_39: So um, so that's what the old farmer's almanac is predicting for the upper Midwest.
- 3:56SPEAKER_39: For the northern plains, the almanac believes the snowiest stretches will be in late January to middle March.
- 4:03SPEAKER_39: It sounds like though, according to the old farmers almanac, they're looking at a drier winter for us because of El Nino.
- 4:10SPEAKER_39: It does say that in here.
- 4:11SPEAKER_39: It says at least the old farmers almanac is siding with the meteor, uh, meteorological data and recognizing that the unprecedented Super El Nino is being forecasted by NOAA with heavily influence on the 26-27 winter for Minnesota.
- 4:28SPEAKER_39: It strengthens the odds of a warmer than normal temperatures and below normal snowfall.
- 4:34SPEAKER_39: See, I don't want to hear I don't want like I don't want a ton of snow, but I also don't want it to be like just looking just dead all winter with nothing with nothing on the ground.
- 4:44SPEAKER_43: Especially around Christmas time.
- 4:46SPEAKER_39: Yeah, that's you're 100%.
- 4:48SPEAKER_43: If it's bare the rest of the time, but for that week with snow, I'm good.
- 4:53SPEAKER_39: Okay, all right.
- 4:54SPEAKER_39: I can I can get behind that.
- 4:55SPEAKER_39: I can get behind that.
- 4:56SPEAKER_39: There's a level.
- 4:57SPEAKER_39: I like, you know, I just I like some consistency.
- 5:00SPEAKER_39: I guess that's what I like.
- 5:01SPEAKER_39: I hate it.
- 5:01SPEAKER_39: I cannot stand when we get into the latter part of the season and the snow's been sitting there forever, and it's all gray, and it's all dirty, and it's just that's just that's just that's just awful.
- 5:11SPEAKER_39: That's just awful.
- 5:13SPEAKER_39: Somebody had uh texted into the blaster line.
- 5:16SPEAKER_39: Um, it's like a book of fortune cooking messages.
- 5:20SPEAKER_39: It's not a bad, it's not a bad assessment.
- 5:22SPEAKER_39: Uh, let's see.
- 5:23SPEAKER_39: Specifically, it's calling for uh above normal precipitation in eastern areas of the upper Midwest and below normal precipitation in western parts of the region in the high plains, also known as the northern plains.
- 5:34SPEAKER_39: The old farmer's almanac is forecasting below normal precipitation and snowfall.
- 5:40SPEAKER_39: Meanwhile, NOAA's climate prediction center has Minnesota in line for warmth, not hot.
- 5:48SPEAKER_39: It is still winter, from November through January.
- 5:51SPEAKER_39: So that would not bode well for your desire for a uh white Christmas there, producer, uh, producer Devin.
- 5:57SPEAKER_39: You know, and again, I just I'll just go back to the to the question that I asked when I started this, you know, little conversation.
- 6:03SPEAKER_39: Uh, does anybody put any stock in almanacs at all beyond just being fun and anecdotal?
- 6:08SPEAKER_39: It is pretty incredible that with all the available technology that we have via algorithms and AI, when it comes to weather, it's still pretty much a crapshoot.
- 6:19SPEAKER_39: I mean, it really is.
- 6:20SPEAKER_39: But remember, you must trust the science when it comes to predictions regarding uh global warming and climate change.
- 6:28SPEAKER_39: That's right.
- 6:30SPEAKER_39: I follow way too much weather only because of my NASCAR racing on the weekends.
- 6:35SPEAKER_39: Because I'm always checking the forecast, because you know, NASCAR ruins races.
- 6:40SPEAKER_39: All right, we do have a show plan this morning, not talking about weather.
- 6:43SPEAKER_39: I do want to hear from you, though.
- 6:44SPEAKER_39: Again, 651-964-0294.
- 6:48SPEAKER_39: You can email the show, John.justice at AmericanExperiment org.
- 6:54SPEAKER_39: We got an update.
- 6:55SPEAKER_39: Uh, fighting has uh erupted once again.
- 6:57SPEAKER_39: We started bombing the bejesus out of uh Iran.
- 7:00SPEAKER_39: I'll get you up to speed on all the latest coming out of uh that uh that region.
- 7:05SPEAKER_39: I have an update on the woman who was fatally shot by law enforcement in Times Square uh yesterday.
- 7:13SPEAKER_39: Uh also Supreme Court uh further rulings on the White House ballroom uh project, where not to spend your money if you're going to the uh Minnesota uh State uh fair.
- 7:24SPEAKER_39: Right.
- 7:25SPEAKER_39: Uh Congress is getting a clean vote on the issue of gender identity.
- 7:31SPEAKER_39: So we'll be talking about that much later in the show.
- 7:33SPEAKER_39: We got a lot of ground to uh a lot of ground to cover today.
- 7:36SPEAKER_39: So I guess I just want to apologize for wasting a few minutes talking about the weather.
- 7:42SPEAKER_39: And again, if you want to leave a comment at any point uh throughout the show, you can do so via voice or text a message to the blaster line at 651-964-0294.
- 7:53SPEAKER_38: As a now retired meteorologist, the farmers' almanacs were simply for fun and nostalgia, in my opinion.
- 8:05unknown: Okay.
- 8:06SPEAKER_38: Very little, if any, scientific input.
- 8:10SPEAKER_38: Good day.
- 8:11SPEAKER_39: Yeah, that makes sense.
- 8:12SPEAKER_39: That makes sense.
- 8:13SPEAKER_39: You know, I suppose that the, you know, it's that a broken clock is is is right twice a day.
- 8:19SPEAKER_39: I'm sure that there are people out there that really adhere to the almanac and believe that it's a worthwhile way to go and look at and forecast what's happening in the uh in the in the coming months.
- 8:31SPEAKER_39: So, but that's probably more uh the the talk back and the uh the blast is probably more in line with how people feel mostly when it comes to almanacs.
- 8:42SPEAKER_39: All right, so we talked about this at length yesterday, and I am happy to see that sanity did grab hold of the narrative of this incredibly disturbed woman who ended up uh uh wounding one individual, took the life of another.
- 8:56SPEAKER_39: We now know the identity of the woman that lost her life via the knives of a 49-year-old Pamela Cisneros, a relative of Pamela, uh, had uh spoken out saying that she was dealing with mental issues.
- 9:09SPEAKER_39: It's just a tragic story.
- 9:10SPEAKER_39: Uh, but as the Daily Wire reports, the Bank of America executive was identified as the victim who was killed in an emotionally disturbed by an emotionally disturbed woman who went on a stabbing rampage in New York City's Times Square.
- 9:24SPEAKER_39: And this happened uh on Monday.
- 9:26SPEAKER_39: Uh her name was uh Erin uh Piacetti, a 32-year-old vice president of business selection and conflicts at B of A, killed in the stabbing.
- 9:38SPEAKER_39: Uh U.S.
- 9:38SPEAKER_39: The U.S.
- 9:39SPEAKER_39: banking giant confirmed this yesterday.
- 9:41SPEAKER_39: Uh Piacetti died at the hospital from her stab wounds.
- 9:44SPEAKER_39: According to Bloomberg, authorities said the stabbing appeared to be random.
- 9:48SPEAKER_39: The spree did.
- 9:50SPEAKER_39: The police did fatally shoot the attacker.
- 9:52SPEAKER_39: The videos have been all over uh X.
- 9:55SPEAKER_39: The 49-year-old Cisneros that I mentioned, whom they described as emotionally disturbed after she stabbed Piacetti and a man during a knife attack in Times Square on Monday.
- 10:05SPEAKER_39: The male victim, who's not yet been identified, was reportedly hospitalized in critical condition.
- 10:12SPEAKER_39: The videos posted on social media that I mentioned show the knife-wielding woman lunging towards several NYPD officers as they repeatedly ordered her to drop her weapons.
- 10:21SPEAKER_39: I mean, she kept saying that I'm gonna kill you, I'm gonna kill you in the middle of this.
- 10:24SPEAKER_39: Officers did tase her and she continued to move forward, and that is all apparent in the in the video footage.
- 10:30SPEAKER_39: And as I mentioned, I was, you know, I was concerned, relatively speaking, that this was going to be one of these stories wherein the left was trying to was going to try to go and exploit it to push back on law enforcement, saying this was excessive force.
- 10:45SPEAKER_39: And I'm happy to see that, like I mentioned, cooler heads have prevailed.
- 10:49SPEAKER_39: Common sense seems to have prevailed.
- 10:51SPEAKER_39: I mentioned yesterday what I had heard of this 21-foot rule regarding an individual who might be wielding a knife and looking to attack you.
- 11:00SPEAKER_39: And that's kind of the general rule is that if a person is within 21 feet carrying a weapon, that you are in danger.
- 11:08SPEAKER_39: And I was using this to justify the actions of law enforcement in that moment during the altercation in Times Square on Monday.
- 11:15SPEAKER_39: We had a friend of the show, Lorenzo from Lakeville, who texted in uh the reason comps say a knife is deadly at 21 feet is because the an average person can cover the distance of 21 feet from a standstill in 1.5 seconds.
- 11:32SPEAKER_39: So that's the little added nugget that I did not have yesterday.
- 11:35SPEAKER_39: And thank you to Lorenzo uh for uh filling in the gap on that.
- 11:39SPEAKER_39: And that's the minimal amount of time it takes to draw a to draw and fire a single shot to protect your life.
- 11:45SPEAKER_39: So there's a correlation here.
- 11:47SPEAKER_39: So it's 1.5 seconds.
- 11:49SPEAKER_39: That's the distance that an individual, an average individual can can close.
- 11:53SPEAKER_39: I imagine that Keith Ellison, because he's so small, can probably do that in a much shorter time.
- 11:58SPEAKER_39: Probably about half.
- 12:01SPEAKER_39: Scurry quickly.
- 12:02SPEAKER_39: But it also relates to the time it would take somebody to go and draw a firearm to uh protect themselves.
- 12:09SPEAKER_39: So, and that was clearly the case in what took place uh it um in Times Square with this disturbed woman on um on Monday.
- 12:18SPEAKER_39: Uh so and again, I'm just I'm glad to see that this wasn't a story that ended up taking off and became viral, and we were having all kinds of debate and discussions over use of forced actions for law enforcement.
- 12:30SPEAKER_39: I thought it was pretty clear based off the footage.
- 12:33SPEAKER_39: And it looks as if uh other uh individuals felt the um the same.
- 12:38SPEAKER_39: Somebody had texted in tasers should be able to stop people.
- 12:41SPEAKER_39: Yeah, you would think, right?
- 12:44SPEAKER_39: I have to believe, and I don't mean this as a um, I don't mean this as a dig on this disturbed woman.
- 12:51SPEAKER_39: I mean, she did lose her life and all of this.
- 12:52SPEAKER_39: It's incredibly tragic, but I I I have to believe that because she was overweight and quite a bit overweight, that had to have something to do with it.
- 13:01SPEAKER_39: Um she was she was gearing up too.
- 13:03SPEAKER_39: If you watch the video, she's standing there with a knife in each hand, and she's like, she's like breathing in and out, like she's getting ready to go, like she's psyching herself up to attack the law enforcement officers, and they fired the tasers, and it just didn't, it didn't stop her from continuing her assault.
- 13:21SPEAKER_39: Like once her brain was engaged that she was going to go move forward and conduct this horrible act of violence, there was no stopping her.
- 13:31SPEAKER_39: And I'm glad that the uh thank you to whoever left that uh that text on the on the blaster line, because um it's it's a good it's a good point to be made that I've said this often on the show, when an individual decides that they no longer value human life, theirs or somebody else's, there is very little that you can do to stop them.
- 13:52SPEAKER_39: And that equates to so many different aspects of dealing with violence and law enforcement tactics that we talk about on a daily basis here on the on the show.
- 14:02SPEAKER_39: When you have the the gun control advocates always focusing on the weapon and not the and not the person, or wanting to put in further gun control laws that really ultimately only go to strip away the right of law-abiding gun owners and their ability to obtain firearms because bad guys don't follow the law.
- 14:25SPEAKER_39: And again, as an example, when you have an individual who has decided, and she already stabbed two people, murdered one of them, I mean, she's gone all in.
- 14:36SPEAKER_39: And I believe that that, along with more than likely the amount of fat that she was carrying on her body, probably dispersed that energy.
- 14:44SPEAKER_39: I don't know how science works and electricity works against obese individuals who are shot with tasers, but I have to imagine that that is a factor.
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- 16:55SPEAKER_39: Uh, friend of the show in Blaine, Joe, texted into the blaster line, 651-964-0294.
- 17:02SPEAKER_39: And he says, Tasers are not always effective, especially against someone that is amped up, as I was talking about.
- 17:08SPEAKER_39: All depends on how and where the barbs go in the body.
- 17:12SPEAKER_39: Yeah, and to me, that would lend some credibility to my to my claim.
- 17:16SPEAKER_39: I mean, if they ended up, and again, I'm not just saying, just factually speaking, if those barbs ended up jabbing her within the fat of her belly, it probably distributed that energy to, you know, in such a way that it didn't impact her enough uh to go and um and make a make a difference.
- 17:34SPEAKER_39: Uh, let's go here to the uh blaster line and hear from you this morning on the John Justice Show.
- 17:40SPEAKER_30: Good morning, John.
- 17:41SPEAKER_30: The taser works on muscle.
- 17:44SPEAKER_30: It constricts the muscle due to the electricity that's put into the body.
- 17:49SPEAKER_30: But if you're dealing with mental illness or have certain chemicals on board, i.e.
- 17:54SPEAKER_30: drugs, it does affect how it works.
- 17:58SPEAKER_30: Doesn't work as well.
- 17:59SPEAKER_30: I heard that some and uh Gary Mariati are trying to extradite the foster in Minnesota so they can prosecute them.
- 18:09SPEAKER_30: No, not really.
- 18:10SPEAKER_30: Just one joke for the morning.
- 18:12SPEAKER_30: Have a good week, guys.
- 18:13SPEAKER_39: It's been a great week so far, and thank you so much for the comment on the uh blaster line.
- 18:18SPEAKER_39: I uh I greatly uh appreciate it.
- 18:20SPEAKER_39: Let's go here.
- 18:20SPEAKER_29: Good morning, Johnny Alex, El Trever.
- 18:23SPEAKER_29: Uh changers don't always work.
- 18:25SPEAKER_29: Um probes need to both connect with the skin to make what's called NMI neuromuscular incapacitation.
- 18:35SPEAKER_29: Uh the the wider the the wider the the the probes, uh more muscles it hits, and that's what locks you up.
- 18:42SPEAKER_29: Uh if only one probe hits, it's just pain's appliance.
- 18:46SPEAKER_29: Uh it doesn't stop people in their tracks.
- 18:48SPEAKER_29: And a lot of times with baking clothes, the uh probes don't stick to the skin.
- 18:54SPEAKER_29: They're like little uh stick into the actual skin itself.
- 18:58SPEAKER_39: Hope that helps.
- 18:59SPEAKER_39: It does help quite a bit because my knowledge of uh of tasers and being tased is really only from the scene in the hangover when they're in the when they're in the police station in Las Vegas and they end up using them as a demonstration to be tased.
- 19:18SPEAKER_39: I was going to be tased at one point in time.
- 19:20SPEAKER_39: So this was back in Tucson.
- 19:22SPEAKER_39: I did a um, I spent a day at the law enforcement training facility for Pima County in southern Arizona.
- 19:33SPEAKER_39: And uh I learned so much that day.
- 19:35SPEAKER_39: There was a ride-along that was attached to it on a different day, but there was this period of time where I spent a lot of time around law enforcement, just learning learning the the ins and outs.
- 19:43SPEAKER_39: This was uh 2008, 2000 and uh uh 2009.
- 19:47SPEAKER_39: Oh, it actually had to be that had to be 2009 or 2010 because this was after my first open heart surgery.
- 19:54SPEAKER_39: And so uh that provided me with the excuse to skip out on a lot of things.
- 19:59SPEAKER_39: So as a side note leading into that, I was invited to to uh skydive with the same military group that had taken former President George Bush skydiving.
- 20:14SPEAKER_39: But this was after my open heart surgery, and I said, oh no, that's not good for my for my heart.
- 20:20SPEAKER_39: Now ask me if I asked my doctor and cardiologist about that.
- 20:23SPEAKER_39: Oh, I didn't.
- 20:23SPEAKER_39: I just used it as an excuse because I had no desire to jump out of the plane.
- 20:26SPEAKER_39: Uh but when I went to go and tour this uh law enforcement uh training facility in Pima County, uh they wanted the two things they wanted to do.
- 20:34SPEAKER_39: One, they wanted to do some training when it came to tasing, and oh, that's not gonna happen.
- 20:38SPEAKER_39: And then two, they wanted me to put the big padded suit on and have one of the police dogs chase me down.
- 20:44SPEAKER_39: And I was also, yeah, yeah, this is not a not a good idea.
- 20:49SPEAKER_39: Yeah.
- 20:50SPEAKER_39: Probably all wise decisions on my part, I'd like to believe.
- 20:55SPEAKER_39: I did not consult my cardiologist, but I also didn't think that was that was necessary uh either.
- 21:01SPEAKER_39: So uh all right, let's get back to some more of your thoughts based off of the uh opening stories of uh Wednesday's John Justice show presented by American Experiment.
- 21:09SPEAKER_26: Good morning, John.
- 21:11SPEAKER_26: The Farmer's Almanac, yes, it's a novelty.
- 21:15SPEAKER_26: It's a guide, you can call it whatever, but I think the best oh they got cut off.
- 21:21SPEAKER_39: Oh, hold on, hold on.
- 21:22SPEAKER_39: Oh no, they left uh they left another one.
- 21:24SPEAKER_39: Here we go.
- 21:24SPEAKER_39: My apologies for that.
- 21:26SPEAKER_39: I think people get tripped up.
- 21:28SPEAKER_39: I need to make sure I double check to see if they leave two.
- 21:30SPEAKER_39: Here we go.
- 21:30SPEAKER_26: Good morning, John Daryl from southern Minnesota.
- 21:33SPEAKER_26: I think the Garmer's Alman Farmer's Almanac is a great guide, sometimes a jokingly reference, but I think the person who described it best was Johnny Cash with a song that mocked the Farmer's Almanac.
- 21:45SPEAKER_26: It was quite cute.
- 21:46SPEAKER_39: Okay.
- 21:47SPEAKER_26: Have a great day.
- 21:48SPEAKER_39: I am unfamiliar with that Johnny Cash tune.
- 21:52SPEAKER_39: Although I did see on, I think it was HBO, um, the walking phoenix and Reese With.
- 22:00SPEAKER_39: Spoon Walk of the Line movie about Johnny Cash.
- 22:03SPEAKER_39: There's an extended edition.
- 22:04SPEAKER_39: I had no idea.
- 22:05SPEAKER_39: I like that movie quite a bit.
- 22:07SPEAKER_39: I may have to go and uh and check it out.
- 22:08SPEAKER_39: Uh thank you to those who have left comments already this morning.
- 22:11SPEAKER_39: You can do the same thing, voice or text.
- 22:13SPEAKER_39: Uh the blaster line, 651-964-0294.
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- 22:29SPEAKER_39: Supreme Court ruling uh earlier uh earlier this week in a 5-4 decision.
- 22:36SPEAKER_39: Missing all but guarantees that the work on the new complex will continue to accelerate.
- 22:44SPEAKER_39: So, in an opinion from the conservative supermajority, according to the Minnesota reformer, where I pulled this article from, so it's tinged with all types of anti-Trump bias, uh, in an opinion from the conservative supermajority, the justices wrote that the historic preservationists who sued to stop the project likely do not have standing and that the administration would be irreparably harmed by halting the construction.
- 23:10SPEAKER_39: National security officials, including several cabinet members and the majority of justices, wrote, uh issued statements in the case attesting that the national security and other harms that would likely arise from enjoining a single coherent project that cannot be readily cleaved into district below and above ground pieces.
- 23:30SPEAKER_39: Holy cow.
- 23:32SPEAKER_39: That was a word selling.
- 23:58SPEAKER_39: Now, Monday's opinion came from what's known as the emergency docket, which provides expedited decisions without full oral arguments.
- 24:06SPEAKER_39: Trump wrote on Truth Social that he was pleased with a report that the United States Supreme Court had ruled in his favor of the ballroom military complex being built without any further contingency, doubt, or threat.
- 24:17SPEAKER_39: We are living in a golden age of America, and this building will be one of the greatest ever constructed in Washington, D.C.
- 24:24SPEAKER_39: You know, as a side note to this, uh, just um speaking about the Supreme Court and the way that Democrats have attempted to go and wield the courts against Trump, ultimately, with so many of these issues landing in the hands of the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court, for the most part, I think the majority of the opinions in these challenges have gone Trump's way.
- 24:48SPEAKER_39: You know, Trump derangement syndrome has offered up an argument and a means for the Democrat Socialists of America communists in the Democrat Party to criticize the Supreme Court because that's the end game for the DSA communists.
- 25:08SPEAKER_39: They want to pack the court and then they want to push to dismantle the United States Constitution to usher in what they believe would be a new era.
- 25:18SPEAKER_39: They would say it's a better era when the reality is no, it would be an era of Marxist totalitarianism under the guise of progressive uh Democrat rule.
- 25:31SPEAKER_39: And the Democrat Party, in and of itself, even apart from the communists in the party, and as I mentioned in previous commentary, I believe that that's the one of the biggest reasons why the DSA has been able to infiltrate the Democrat Party, is because their agendas are completely and totally aligned with what with one another.
- 25:50SPEAKER_39: Democrats and the DSA communists within the party now, they both want communism.
- 25:55SPEAKER_39: But your establishment, longtime Democrats, have always taken this tactic of a slow role, the slow turning up of the heat on the boiling pot of water so the frog doesn't realize he's being cooked.
- 26:08SPEAKER_39: Wherein the new DSA communists that have taken over the party, these are coming from the younger generations having been indoctrinated through the public education and university system, living in a world where they demand instant gratification.
- 26:22SPEAKER_39: They want everything right now.
- 26:24SPEAKER_39: And that includes pushing forward on their communist rule.
- 26:30SPEAKER_39: But the end game in all of this is dismantling the United States Constitution.
- 26:34SPEAKER_39: And don't just take my word for it.
- 26:36SPEAKER_39: I mean, that's coming from the actual uh Democrat and socialists themselves, as we've played with audio on the show.
- 26:42SPEAKER_39: I mention all of this because House Speaker Mike Johnson yesterday, um, and this kind of came out of the blue.
- 26:48SPEAKER_39: Uh, he came out and announced that there was a constitutional amendment being put forward that would ultimately ban Democrats from packing the Supreme Court.
- 26:59SPEAKER_39: This is what he had to say to reporters yesterday up on Capitol Hill.
- 27:05SPEAKER_34: Republicans are here to work.
- 27:06SPEAKER_34: We have a lot more left to do.
- 27:08SPEAKER_34: We're gonna keep demonstrating to the American people every day that their priorities are our priorities.
- 27:12SPEAKER_34: We have very important legislation.
- 27:14SPEAKER_34: Tomorrow, I'll highlight one of those.
- 27:16SPEAKER_34: Uh, we are gonna bring a constitutional amendment.
- 27:19SPEAKER_34: It is a a bill to amend the U.S.
- 27:21SPEAKER_34: Constitution to ensure that the U.S.
- 27:23SPEAKER_34: Supreme Court remains composed of only nine justices.
- 27:26SPEAKER_34: We will keep the nine.
- 27:28SPEAKER_34: Now you've heard the Democratic Socialists of America, the Communist Socialists and the Democrat Party who are taking the party over.
- 27:33SPEAKER_34: They published a platform.
- 27:35SPEAKER_34: You know, they want to abolish the border, they want to abolish prisons, defund police.
- 27:39SPEAKER_34: One of their objectives, among all the crazy things, is they want to pack the U.S.
- 27:44SPEAKER_34: Supreme Court.
- 27:44SPEAKER_34: We're going to make sure that doesn't happen.
- 27:46SPEAKER_34: So we're going to put that bill on the floor tomorrow on suspension because it requires a two-third vote of both chambers of of Congress to uh amend the Constitution, and we will have them put their money where their mouth is.
- 27:57SPEAKER_34: There's a couple of Democrats here in the House who have um suggested that they're not on board uh with the Democratic Society of America, just a few.
- 28:05SPEAKER_34: Uh they're gonna get a chance to show us tomorrow.
- 28:07SPEAKER_34: We're gonna see.
- 28:08SPEAKER_39: Uh, now that's an interesting note there at the end.
- 28:12SPEAKER_39: Because I don't have a lot of confidence of this passing ahead of the midterms, it more than likely is designed to be a tactic to get Democrats on record voting against a bill limiting the ability of Congress to go and pack the Supreme Court, to keep the current makeup of the court as is moving forward.
- 28:34SPEAKER_39: But the fact that Speaker Johnson said there are some Democrats who are on board with it may make this more of an interesting vote and, you know, perhaps provide the opportunity for it to pass, even though if I were a betting man, I would absolutely say um that it has no chance of passing when it comes to the Senate.
- 28:50SPEAKER_39: Uh, friend of the show, Don, I texted in to the blaster line at 651-964-0294.
- 28:56SPEAKER_39: And he says, Has the Supreme Court always been used to settle petty lawsuits?
- 29:01SPEAKER_39: I'm sure there's been a level of that without having the information and the data in front of me.
- 29:06SPEAKER_39: It does seem like this is happening more often, but I think that's, you know, you can attribute that to Trump derangement syndrome and how Democrats have really gone and abused the power of the courts to go and block so much of what Trump has been attempting to uh accomplish.
- 29:26SPEAKER_39: You know, and this brings about, and I don't want to spend a lot of time on this, but it also brings about the idea that there's too much focus on the presidency.
- 29:36SPEAKER_39: And this goes back a lot of years.
- 29:39SPEAKER_39: I remember, you know, talking with uh, you know, my previous uh my previous co-host and and and friend Drew about this issue.
- 29:48SPEAKER_39: Uh, because he he would talk about it often.
- 29:51SPEAKER_39: We would have discussions about this, about how we place too big of an importance on the presidency in the presidential role.
- 29:58SPEAKER_39: I mean, Democrats have made it a an art, right?
- 30:02SPEAKER_39: By going and casting Trump as this authoritarian dictator in the time of both of well, not even just in both terms, but even in between terms for crying out loud.
- 30:12SPEAKER_39: They've placed a level of importance beyond what I think the president of the United States should have.
- 30:18SPEAKER_39: Is it an important role?
- 30:19SPEAKER_39: Yes, in terms of being the you know, the CEO of the country.
- 30:23SPEAKER_39: I'm not saying that, but for the most part, decisions are made in Congress.
- 30:29SPEAKER_39: You know, the president is the figurehead and the leader, you know, at the top when it comes to how we make decisions here.
- 30:38SPEAKER_39: And and there's a there's a level that Democrats have put uh put of importance on the presidency that isn't necessary.
- 30:46SPEAKER_39: And this also goes back to when Drew and I were having these conversations.
- 30:49SPEAKER_39: This was going back to the Obama years as well, and how we really have sort of placed that role up on a pedestal higher than we should be viewing it.
- 30:57SPEAKER_39: It is important, it is the biggest role on the planet in terms of leadership, but when it comes to the decision making of the country, yeah, it's just one facet of the various ways in which we decide how the country is going to be run.
- 31:11SPEAKER_39: It's not the end all be all, and that's the way the Democrats have have gone and uh framed President Donald Trump for the longest time.
- 31:19SPEAKER_39: All right, let's turn our attention over to what's going on with Iran now.
- 31:22SPEAKER_39: The United States has picked up its kinetic uh action against Iran, striking two Iranian tankers in the Strait of Hormuz.
- 31:31SPEAKER_39: This marks a significant escalation, according to the article that I have in front of me from Newsmax.
- 31:36SPEAKER_39: In the conflict with Tehran, it's a tanker-for-tanker response following Iranian attacks on commercial shipping in U.S.
- 31:43SPEAKER_39: forces, including attacks on two supertankers carrying Saudi oil.
- 31:47SPEAKER_39: The renewed fighting threatens to disrupt the Strait of Hormuz, obviously a critical energy checkpoint, potentially impacting the global oil prices and supply.
- 31:56SPEAKER_39: Now, the strikes were part of a broader U.S.
- 31:58SPEAKER_39: military operation against roughly 100 Iranian targets and represented a significant shift as of late in American strategy.
- 32:07SPEAKER_39: U.S.
- 32:07SPEAKER_39: officials told Axios that the tanker attacks were carried out with direct retaliation for the Iranian aggression against commercial shipping and U.S.
- 32:15SPEAKER_39: forces.
- 32:16SPEAKER_39: So Trey Yingst, uh, the Fox News reporter in the region, uh, does fantastic reporting on this issue, was talking with Fox News yesterday as this latest round of strikes against Iran uh started yesterday afternoon.
- 32:31SPEAKER_12: Yeah, John, good afternoon.
- 32:32SPEAKER_12: I just spoke with President Trump, who indicated that if the Iranians respond to these U.S.
- 32:37SPEAKER_12: strikes against their country, the president said they'll be hit much harder.
- 32:42SPEAKER_12: He went on to say today's strikes were a very big hit, and if it goes a third time, they're going to be totally wiped out as a country.
- 32:50SPEAKER_12: Now I asked the president what was hit tonight in Iran, specifically in the southwestern part of the country, next to the Strait of Hormuz.
- 32:56SPEAKER_12: President Trump says a lot of radar, and added that they were trying to rebuild the radar systems, and the United States was watching.
- 33:04SPEAKER_12: And then just before they completed this construction, that's when these strikes took place.
- 33:10SPEAKER_12: The President says the USS George Washington, that new aircraft carrier that arrived in theater last week, is loaded to the gills with ammunition.
- 33:18SPEAKER_12: And he indicated that they have enough to continue this fight against Iran.
- 33:22SPEAKER_12: Again, if the Iranians do decide to respond.
- 33:25SPEAKER_12: As for any sort of possible agreement with the Iranians, President Trump says, I think an agreement with them isn't worth the paper.
- 33:31SPEAKER_12: It's written on.
- 33:32SPEAKER_12: We gave them a lot of chances.
- 33:34SPEAKER_12: But again, the latest information that we have, John, U.S.
- 33:37SPEAKER_12: strikes are ongoing against Iran, hitting the southwestern part of the country.
- 33:41SPEAKER_12: And the President once again, in a call with Fox News, warning the Iranian regime if they respond to these strikes against the southwestern part of Iran, that they will be hit much harder.
- 33:52SPEAKER_12: And again, he goes on to say if this goes for a third time, they will be wiped out as a country.
- 33:57SPEAKER_12: He described the Iranians as crazy and stupid.
- 34:00SPEAKER_12: And again, the region is waiting to see if there will be an Iranian response already in Iranian state media.
- 34:05SPEAKER_12: They are threatening retaliation against U.S.
- 34:07SPEAKER_12: forces in the region.
- 34:09SPEAKER_39: John Russell.
- 34:44SPEAKER_39: Yeah, there's a lot of interesting developments too, because we're getting um reports now of Russia assisting Iran.
- 34:52SPEAKER_39: There's also connections being made regarding Ukraine, which is causing a lot of concern among those that have been watching the various conflicts in the region and are beginning to see a Venn diagram form wherein you could see this erupt into a larger regional conflict, which I believe the administration is desperate to avoid.
- 35:15SPEAKER_39: When it comes to the potential impact that these new renewed strikes against Iran could have on our own energy prices, that of course continues to be a concern, especially as we tick down the weeks of the midterm elections.
- 35:28SPEAKER_39: It's partly the reason why Trump made the announcement regarding working with the Venezuelan leadership in their uh oil reserves to help assist our energy costs.
- 35:41SPEAKER_39: That being said, it's probably going to take a while before we end up seeing any sort of positivity.
- 35:45SPEAKER_39: That's more of a long-term move by President Donald Trump to bring about the energy independence that he's looking for for the United States.
- 35:53SPEAKER_39: There is some hope that that could drive down some prices.
- 35:56SPEAKER_39: And perhaps these new military actions against Iran will prove effective in stopping the Iranian regime from what little they can still do against us and our adversaries.
- 36:09SPEAKER_39: And if it does, then maybe we can get some relief as we head into these midterm elections.
- 36:17SPEAKER_39: Here's more from Atre Yinkson.
- 36:18SPEAKER_39: If you want to comment, um, you can leave a text or voicemail message to the blaster line at 651-964-0295.
- 36:25SPEAKER_01: John Sandra?
- 36:26SPEAKER_01: Uh I mean, they may be crazy and stupid, but they've also got to be terrified because uh Space Force has got a microscope on everything that they do.
- 36:35SPEAKER_01: We hit uh a couple of missile sites that were trying to fire mines into the Strait of Hormuz from Larak Island, which is right near where the strikes were on Keshem Island.
- 36:44SPEAKER_01: Now they're looking at them trying to rebuild radars and they're taking those out.
- 36:48SPEAKER_01: Targets, I think you said, were also hit in Bandar Abbas.
- 36:51SPEAKER_01: I mean, the Iranians have got to be looking at this and saying every time we try to make a move, we're getting dinged by the U.S.
- 36:57SPEAKER_01: military.
- 36:59SPEAKER_12: Yeah, absolutely.
- 37:00SPEAKER_12: The U.S.
- 37:01SPEAKER_12: military is watching very closely the movement of vessels and military personnel, specifically in this area next to the Strait of Hormuz.
- 37:08SPEAKER_12: And it's very interesting the president talking about these radar systems that he says were hit tonight.
- 37:13SPEAKER_12: They were watching them as they were rebuilding the radar systems, and then they hit them.
- 37:18SPEAKER_12: And all along this is happening with the Strait of Hormuz and the issue of mines.
- 37:23SPEAKER_12: The president indicated it's now cleared after that operation by the U.S.
- 37:27SPEAKER_12: Navy to ensure that these mines were not in the way of international shipping vessels.
- 37:31SPEAKER_12: But we know this exchange of fire all started when the Iranians were trying to launch these FARS 5 rockets with sea mines attached into the strait to try and remine this area.
- 37:41SPEAKER_12: And that's what drew the initial strikes against Larak Island over the weekend.
- 37:45SPEAKER_12: And so a lot of kinetic activity, and again, the region is waiting tonight to see if the Iranians are going to respond to these U.S.
- 37:51SPEAKER_12: strikes against their country.
- 37:53SPEAKER_12: These were certainly more widespread than some analysts anticipated.
- 37:56SPEAKER_12: But the president indicated he is looking to send a message to the Iranian regime about threatening the Strait of Hormuz and U.S.
- 38:03SPEAKER_12: forces in the region.
- 38:06SPEAKER_39: Well, stop.
- 38:07SPEAKER_39: Let me stop it.
- 38:08SPEAKER_39: Let me stop it here.
- 38:09SPEAKER_39: It really is this game of whack-a-mole now.
- 38:12SPEAKER_39: To oversimplify what's taking place in Iran.
- 38:17SPEAKER_39: It is a large region.
- 38:19SPEAKER_39: You have multiple factions involved, all of which are heavily armed and have been, because that's been what the Iranian regime has been about for decades.
- 38:30SPEAKER_39: Waging war.
- 38:31SPEAKER_39: They've developed that infrastructure over decades.
- 38:34SPEAKER_39: Decades of appeasement from previous leadership.
- 38:39SPEAKER_39: Those occupying the White House have enabled Iran to do this.
- 38:43SPEAKER_39: President Donald Trump said years ago, long before he was going to run for office, that Iran had to be dealt with.
- 38:50SPEAKER_39: He's always felt this way.
- 38:51SPEAKER_39: This isn't something new.
- 38:53SPEAKER_39: As I talked about yesterday, given the decades of appeasement and allowing Iran to build up the infrastructure that they did to wage war, I am going to exercise patience in all of this, wherein I wasn't before.
- 39:08SPEAKER_39: I was thinking, like a lot of individuals, that this should have been over quickly, and maybe this administration thought it would be over quickly.
- 39:13SPEAKER_39: But that being said, it does make logical sense that it would take a while to go and undermine Iran's ability to wage war because this is what the Iranian regime has been about, has been about for decades.
- 39:26SPEAKER_39: And so now we're at this point where we knock them down, they're wounded, we hurt them, we have the economic D-Day coming, but at the same time, they still have pockets wherein they can wreak havoc on our interest in the Strait of Hormuz, still lob missiles at our allies in the region who may have joined us in our efforts to take them down.
- 39:48SPEAKER_39: And so they expose themselves, we take care of it, and then we move on to the next.
- 39:54SPEAKER_39: And I'm pleased to see the administration is sort of dispensing with trying to cut any deals with them at this point in time.
- 40:01SPEAKER_39: Because I kind of agree with President Donald Trump and I hope he sticks with this.
- 40:05SPEAKER_39: That in terms of making any deals with Iran, it's clear that they have no interest in making deals.
- 40:09SPEAKER_39: All they want to do is delay and delay as long as they can, because they probably hope to delay the action long enough so that they can take advantage of it, and it can wound Republican efforts in the upcoming midterm elections, which would absolutely benefit the Iranian regime if Democrats were able to go and grab control.
- 40:33SPEAKER_39: It cracked me up though with what Trey Yingst was uh was saying that um Iran was caught off guard and that they were they were going so far as to have been setting up radar stations we were watching, and then the moment that they got them to a place where they were good, we went and bombed them.
- 40:49SPEAKER_39: Had to be so disappointing for all those guys that put in all that hard work, huh?
- 40:52SPEAKER_39: Oh man, we just finished the job.
- 40:55SPEAKER_39: All right, I'll keep with this for just a moment because I have a couple of clips to play for you, but let me um let me establish where uh where he was.
- 41:02SPEAKER_39: So from the Daily Wire, Treasury Secretary Bescent's unprecedented move wins praise from Wall Street heavyweights.
- 41:09SPEAKER_39: So he's at the G20.
- 41:11SPEAKER_39: The private sector has never had a seat at the table at the G20 until Treasury Secretary Scott Besent extended uh an invitation this week.
- 41:22SPEAKER_39: Wall Street leaders happily accepted.
- 41:24SPEAKER_39: The economic growth is Bessent's top priority at the G20 finance uh ministerial meeting this week in Asheville, North Carolina.
- 41:33SPEAKER_39: Uh Bacent argues that growth cannot happen without the private sector and rests upon the abundance of our resources, the clarity of our rules, and the strength of our markets.
- 41:42SPEAKER_39: JP Morgan Chase, for example, the CEO, uh Jamie Damon, praised Bassent's move to extend an invitation, saying good policy is made better when those who lend, hire, invest, and build have a voice in shaping how collaboration works.
- 41:58SPEAKER_39: Bassent told the Daily Wire that he hopes other countries will commit to pro-growth initiatives, but added there's no guarantee that they will take the measures they need.
- 42:07SPEAKER_39: He explained that countries who choose to do business with America, under President Donald Trump, we have to tax certainty, energy certainty, and regulatory certainty.
- 42:16SPEAKER_39: So I bring all this up because while at this G20 uh finance meeting in Asheville, North Carolina, the Treasury Secretary did have a few words to say about the ongoing conflict um with Iran.
- 42:30SPEAKER_39: And here he talks about what's been happening with the Strait of Ormuz and particularly what the Iranians have been attempting when it comes to the Strait of Ormuz, especially as it relates to the flow of goods moving through that particular region and our own U.S.
- 42:45SPEAKER_39: economy.
- 42:46SPEAKER_47: The only good thing about COVID, and we were we were just talking about uh your your experience in the White House during the COVID crisis, the only good thing was that it showed us where many of the choke points are.
- 42:58SPEAKER_47: And uh I often say in our trade discussions with China that we we do not want to the uh we we we don't want to uh pull apart from them, but we have to de-risk.
- 43:12SPEAKER_47: We have to de-risk, we have to de-risk everywhere in the world.
- 43:16SPEAKER_47: We can see the Iranians are trying to use the Strait of Hormouth as a choke point.
- 43:21SPEAKER_47: It's not a choke point for the U.S., but it is a choke point for many, many other countries.
- 43:26SPEAKER_47: And uh but you know that will be bypassed in two years.
- 43:30SPEAKER_47: In two years, the Strait of Hormouth will be like a worthless piece of water that the the the oil will be going on pipelines across the land.
- 43:41SPEAKER_47: But we we've seen we have semiconductors, it's clinical minerals, it is uh the advanced uh it's the precursors for many of our medicines.
- 43:56SPEAKER_47: I mean, I think probably everyone in this audience and everyone on TV who listening to you has a uh has had a child that has had amoxicillin.
- 44:08SPEAKER_47: We we do not produce amoxicillin here in the U.S.
- 44:12SPEAKER_47: So we have to uh do that and look some sometimes the the people who say let the market work the market will sort it out well there are market failures.
- 44:23SPEAKER_47: There are market failures and I think what we've learned is that maximum efficiency is not maximally secure.
- 44:31SPEAKER_47: And under President Trump's direction there are a group of us in the administration who are securing that all these critical nodes in the supply chains.
- 44:41SPEAKER_47: And again whether it's critical minerals whether it's semiconductors we're we're trying to bring 35% of the semiconductor production the advanced semiconductor production back into the U.S.
- 44:55SPEAKER_47: by the end of the president's term or by the end of the decade which is very important.
- 45:01SPEAKER_39: These are all positive long-term goals and weaknesses that have been identified by the Trump administration that get completely lost in the mainstream coverage of what is taking place.
- 45:15SPEAKER_39: There is a lot going on right now not just for the immediate future of the United States economy but a lot being done when it comes to the long-term future of the United States economy as it relates to the war in Iran, as it relates to the actions that we've taken in in in Venezuela.
- 45:37SPEAKER_39: All of this that I'm sharing with you, it gets lost in the mainstream media.
- 45:41SPEAKER_39: It doesn't get proper coverage.
- 45:43SPEAKER_39: The majority of the mainstream media doesn't even know how to cover it.
- 45:46SPEAKER_39: They don't know what it is that they're hearing when they're talking about it.
- 45:48SPEAKER_39: So they simply ignore it and they stick with the tried and true talking points that they believe are going to bring them a significant number of views and hours watched to their programs to keep them going without actually getting into what this administration is attempting to do to put America on a solid footing long after President Donald Trump is gone.
- 46:15SPEAKER_39: You know, I'm happy that I have the opportunity here on the John Justice show and American experiment to to share it with you.
- 46:21SPEAKER_39: And I'm glad that you are listening to it.
- 46:23SPEAKER_39: Hopefully you're getting something from it because this is something that is not easily articulated or even attempted to be articulated within our mainstream media as to what actually is going on in the larger picture of the conflict in Iran.
- 46:37SPEAKER_39: Even I've oversimplified it at times for the sake of generalizing as we do as talk show hosts.
- 46:44SPEAKER_39: I mean ultimately this is about taking away the ability of Iran to have a nuclear weapon for Iran to go and wage war against ourselves and our enemy but when I say wage war it's not just through military power.
- 46:57SPEAKER_39: It's through economic means as well the flow of oil around the globe, the flow of goods coming out of the out of the region.
- 47:06SPEAKER_39: These are all things that the administration is attempting to tackle that is not clearly articulated through your mainstream media.
- 47:14SPEAKER_39: To that point here is more of what the Treasury Secretary Scott Bissent had to say on Iran uh during this G twenty finance meeting in Asheville North Carolina.
- 47:22SPEAKER_39: Well that that's what happened tough that's what have that's what happened to this bank in Dubai and it could be entities it could be uh it could be airline leasing companies that which we'll we'll be looking at it could be anyone who does business with the IRGC we are and he's talking about the economic D Day that the administration is putting into place and not just holding Iranians accountable but also holding accountable those individuals funneling money to Iran that may be assisting them in the efforts that the United States is attempting to thwart to take away the ability for Iran to execute those efforts against the West.
- 48:04SPEAKER_47: We are tracking down the IRGC's assets and I will say it on worldwide TV just so you know we know the we're in the British Virgin Islands your accounts are at these trust companies we know the$100 million houses you have around the world and we are going to freeze those we are going to our our partners we are going to close all of that down so we are going to go after the regime's illegitimate assets that they have stolen from the Iranian people and those can go back to the Iranian people or they can go to the victims of terror like the families of the soldiers who are on the USS coal or in the Lebanese barracks.
- 48:47SPEAKER_39: Lastly uh there was another moment apart from the interview that you were just hearing from the Treasury Secretary uh Scott Bascent uh going against as I was just talking about going against the mainstream uh media and the fake news regarding the coverage of Iran and even beyond and I will tell you that one of the best allies that the Iranians have on this is the media because the media immediately publishes all the lies all the lies that they say there are no mines in the street two ships did not hit mines this is Iranian adop and everyone in this audience and every news outlet should be ashamed for publishing that taking a lying regime at face value well I I think look they are panicked yeah and that's exactly what I was mentioning a moment ago rather than getting into and attempting to articulate what the United States is trying to accomplish on every single level with our military action against Iran which would be to the betterment of the viewers it would be to the betterment of the voters unfortunately because the left-wing media believes that it would be to the betterment of this administration they refuse to go and cover those aspects instead what do they do?
- 50:18SPEAKER_39: They actually lean into the propaganda coming out of Iran rather than taking the time to actually listen to what the Treasury Secretary is is saying or even what you know reporters like Trey Yinx is saying.
- 50:31SPEAKER_39: I mean Fox News does a does a better job but even Fox News falls victim to the fact that they have to keep things you know boiled down to particular sound bites.
- 50:40SPEAKER_39: They can't get too you know too deep into the weeds on these particular issues.
- 50:45SPEAKER_39: But unfortunately that is to the detriment of the viewers watching that show.
- 50:50SPEAKER_39: Usually that type of commentary is reserved for like the weekends and like the Sunday shows and that's all great but not everybody watches all of those.
- 50:58SPEAKER_39: And those that do watch those Sunday shows that get the further details are the individuals that are probably already well educated on the issues.
- 51:06SPEAKER_39: They're not the ones that need to hear it.
- 51:08SPEAKER_39: It's the casual watchers that are just watching the top of the hour headlines those are the ones that need to hear comprehensively what it is that we're trying to accomplish good morning John Bob from Lake Elmo just a historical perspective on economic warfare with Iran.
- 51:24SPEAKER_17: Back in the 70s they doubled the price of oil basically overnight and sent our economy into a tailspin.
- 51:32SPEAKER_17: It's just kind of ironic and uh I guess turn about fair play.
- 51:38SPEAKER_39: Old beset uh thank you Bob always great to uh hear from you if you want to leave a text or voice message to the blaster line you can do so at 651640294.
- 51:50SPEAKER_39: Again 651 uh 9640294 and if you still have the old number you can call the old number it'll transfer you to the uh to the new one but that is the new uh and improved uh blaster line so I I need to give myself a bit of a pat on the back I predicted this of what I'm about to share with you I didn't think it would happen so quickly Netflix has announced a documentary on the reporters left flying blind doing that thing with my fingers aboard Trump's decoy plane I mentioned when we covered this story of the of Air Force One being the target of Iranian threats the president being shuttled off in a catering truck out of and off of Air Force One to keep him safe I said this is going to end up being like a Netflix movie.
- 52:44SPEAKER_39: No I thought it was going to be more of like a and maybe we will get it in the future but more of a sort of a Michael Bay action production.
- 52:50SPEAKER_39: This is a new series that Netflix is rolling out called InstaDox Instadox so Daily Wire uh reports this I have some uh personal insight from a journalist I'll share it with you uh coming up who has actually flown on Air Force One as a journalist providing her uh inside perspective that would be friend of uh the show and friend of mine and yours Katie Pavlich so I'll share with you what she had to say this morning when I texted her.
- 53:20SPEAKER_39: But uh Netflix is rolling out the red carpet for the latest entry in media naval gazing a documentary detailing the absolute horror doing that thing with my fingers of reporters being left on a plane with uh the window shades lowered so let me say up front I'll reserve full judgment on this documentary until I watch it my confidence is low my expectations are low but I'll reserve having not watched it having only watched the trailer which looks compelling I mean I'll watch it I have to assume that given the Obama's role in producing so many of this of these of these documentaries on Netflix that it probably has a lot of bias in it but we'll wait we'll wait to see needless to say this is what Daily Wire had to say the streaming giant announced uh on Tuesday that Instadox colon the decoy plane is this gonna I know it's not a new thing but I just is this going to become a thing now like power colon drag review now we have Instadox colon the decoy plane maybe I'm missing the mark here maybe it needs to be the John Justice show colon presented by American Experiment this is going to be premiering on uh Friday so Instadox is coming soon.
- 54:34SPEAKER_39: Trailer drops Tuesday documentary comes out in two days uh it examines the July incident where the Secret Service pulled off a slick maneuver in Ankara, Turkey facing credible assassination threats from Iran against the president.
- 54:50SPEAKER_39: Security officials quietly shuttle the commander in chief off of Air Force One via a catering truck and onto a secure military transport plane.
- 54:59SPEAKER_39: So uh this obviously uh dismisses uh any conspiracy and I even shared one on the show any conspiracy that this didn't actually happen and this was a means to draw out potential White House leakers.
- 55:10SPEAKER_39: Clearly it was an event that actually did take place.
- 55:13SPEAKER_39: Left behind on the main 747 was the White House press pool blissfully unaware that Trump wasn't on board only to erupt in a collective panic upon realizing that they played a role of unwitting decoys according to Netflix a plane full of reporters in the public they answered to were left flying blind okay again I'll reserve judgment it's hard it's hard not to assume that this isn't going to be just left-wing propaganda be that as it may the documentary does promise doing the thing with my fingers first hand accounts from shell shocked journalists detailing their harrowing experience one AP photographer dramatically recounted um shooting the blanket out of a catering truck before receiving the horrifying command to pull down his windowshere instantly triggering his spidey sense love me a good Spider-Man reference other reporters have openly whined about being treated as expendable while the White House Correspondence Association fired off private notes a wringing their hands over press safety and reporting integrity again if you want to comment 651-964-0294 text or voice message me uh because if there's one thing the White House press corps excels at it's making life-saving military operations all about themselves former Clinton military aide Lieutenant Colonel Robert Buzz Patterson torched the media's melodramatic narrative calling the Secret Service high stake shell game brilliant and routine Patterson point uh pointed out that presidential decoys uh stealth plane swaps and catering truck tactics are standard operating procedures administrations have used for decades, including the Clintons to protect the presidency in high threat environments.
- 57:08SPEAKER_39: So the White House press corps treats uh a routine successful counterthreat operation like a traumatic thriller Netflix is more than happy to cash in on the drama the Daily Wirepiece uh wraps on don't forget to close your window shades so again I'm gonna reserve my judgment on this until I see the documentary because it looks compelling.
- 57:32SPEAKER_39: I did reach out though to Katie Pavlich now working for News Nation.
- 57:38SPEAKER_39: She's actually traveling in Greece right now so I'm very appreciative that she texted me back.
- 57:42SPEAKER_39: I had no idea.
- 57:43SPEAKER_39: Actually I think I had seen some social media where she had posted some photos from Greece but I had no idea she was still there now.
- 57:50SPEAKER_39: But you know I and I made this comment when the the story first broke that I'd have to assume that if you're with a White House press corps that there's a level of risk that you know you're taking when you're going on Air Force One, you're carrying the president of the United States for crying out loud.
- 58:03SPEAKER_39: So that's what I asked her.
- 58:04SPEAKER_39: I said regarding the Netflix documentary on the POTUS diversion tactic used because of the Iranian threats I would have to assume as someone who's flown on Air Force One that journalists have a level of danger and are aware of a level of danger when traveling she wrote back she says yes absolutely although many White House press corps are so arrogant they seem to have forgotten that.
- 58:27SPEAKER_39: And this isn't just when traveling with the protists it's any cabinet official.
- 58:31SPEAKER_39: Katie went on to say when I traveled with Secretary Pompeo we did a secret trip to Iraq and had to sprint to the plane when local media reported that there uh that we were there and the pilot had to do a corkscrew takeoff.
- 58:46SPEAKER_39: I remember I actually remember that story and I remember talking to Katie about about that story when it broke that they were coming under threat because the local media had reported that Pompeo was on the ground and there were those within Iraq that were looking to go and take advantage of it and take down the plane.
- 59:04SPEAKER_39: So they had to spiral out of the region just to be safe.
- 59:08SPEAKER_39: So we thank Katie for reaching out on that I greatly uh I greatly appreciate it.
- 59:14SPEAKER_37: All right uh let's go to uh some of your thoughts from the uh blaster line this morning good morning Jared Joe from Victoria so the press corps is gonna complain about being left on arguably the most secure defensive plane on the planet with the most advanced military escort possible for defending it.
- 59:33SPEAKER_39: What a bunch of place thank you uh for uh keeping it clean it's uh much uh much appreciated so again the blaster line is 651-964-0294 you can now voice message and text message the show whenever you like all right I want to revisit coming up in just a moment the uh 8647 crop art display uh a point not made on this uh issue from uh yesterday also if you're going to the fair beware of the DFL donut stand we haven't talked about that this year so I'll give you details uh on that before we dive into those stories I do want to mention that if you are not getting yourself a good night's sleep that was certainly the case uh for me I was talking with Logan about this yesterday that uh when it comes to you know early morning hours late night hours especially on the weekend they all run together I get up at 2.30 in the morning I go to bed at 630 at night uh circadian rhythms do not exist in my dojo and it wasn't until I found the night gummies from uh Minnie Leith that that all changed for me.
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- 1:02:48SPEAKER_39: And thanks for joining us this morning.
- 1:02:49SPEAKER_39: We were talking just a moment ago new Netflix documentary uh detailing from the journalist's perspective the escape from Turkey and uh Air Force One being used as a decoy under Iranian threats to President Donald Trump at the time it comes out on Friday.
- 1:03:06SPEAKER_39: I'm assuming it's gonna be incredibly biased but I'll reserve judgment until I watch it.
- 1:03:11SPEAKER_19: Yeah and those two uh so-called journalists that were part of that expose all about what happened on the plane they just gave up their future financial security what are they going to do after this when they lose their credentials and they're no longer welcome in the White House and then wait a couple of years and then somebody else will come in and give them their jobs back?
- 1:03:36SPEAKER_39: Yeah it'll be interesting you you you raise a good point Lou um it'll be interesting to see how the White House responds to this.
- 1:03:46SPEAKER_39: I mean I would I honestly I would hope that they wouldn't bar the press corps uh from Air Force One unless they were to divulge you know something that could be a threat to national security.
- 1:03:58SPEAKER_39: That being said you do raise an interesting point and it'll be curious to see once the documentary is released what the White House's response is.
- 1:04:06SPEAKER_39: We have a text that came in terribly sorry but the press corps uh people know in the press corps people know darn well that any time they are with the president they could be in danger.
- 1:04:16SPEAKER_39: To say that this one time they were considered expendable is ridiculous.
- 1:04:19SPEAKER_39: The powers that be will protect the POTUS first and the press later every time.
- 1:04:23SPEAKER_39: Yeah no I completely agree.
- 1:04:26SPEAKER_39: And I I would think that most people I mean regardless of political party yeah I know Trump arrangement syndrome and that gets in the way of common sense nine times out of ten.
- 1:04:36SPEAKER_39: But to anybody who's just being rational and using common sense you you'd have to understand that yeah there is a level of risk and in this particular circumstance yeah the president is most important it's just the reality of it.
- 1:04:55SPEAKER_39: And to go out of your way to protect the White House press corps would be to go and actually put the president at risk exposing what it is that the administration and Secret Service are actually doing to protect the president.
- 1:05:13SPEAKER_39: I'm surprised listen, let me back up even further I'm surprised this it was ever made public.
- 1:05:17SPEAKER_39: Unless they just simply couldn't avoid it because the news got out there and the press was just going to talk about it.
- 1:05:21SPEAKER_39: But it seems like one of those circumstances wherein already the safety and security of the president is potentially undermined because now our enemies know that this could be a potential tactic.
- 1:05:37SPEAKER_39: An unfortunate reality of this situation coming to light that was probably um avoidable.
- 1:05:43SPEAKER_39: You know what else is avoidable?
- 1:05:45SPEAKER_39: Making a potentially offensive uh uh artwork and then um you know complaining that people are criticizing your potentially offensive uh artwork is it's avoidable if you don't make the potentially offensive uh artwork So we talked about this at length yesterday.
- 1:06:02SPEAKER_39: I just want to revisit the story really quick.
- 1:06:04SPEAKER_39: Alpha News followed up on their previous piece regarding the 8647 crop art display at the Minnesota State Fair that caused controversy and was subsequently asked to be removed by the artists themselves.
- 1:06:18SPEAKER_39: In the most recent story from Alpha News, they basically lay out what I did yesterday on the show.
- 1:06:24SPEAKER_39: And that was the media's ridiculous response to this doing that thing with my fingers controversy over the 8647 crop art.
- 1:06:34SPEAKER_39: You had bring me the news going and downplaying the significance of what the terminology 8647 means.
- 1:06:41SPEAKER_39: You had the Star Tribune out there saying that this was doxing taking place of this individual, even though their name was revealed right underneath the piece of art and is easily Googled.
- 1:06:54SPEAKER_39: On top of that, pointing to the conservative outlet of Alpha News, as if if it wasn't for pesky Alpha News, this wouldn't have even become an issue.
- 1:07:04SPEAKER_39: But there's a point on this that wasn't made yesterday that I want to make.
- 1:07:07SPEAKER_39: So here's the update on it.
- 1:07:08SPEAKER_39: So the viral post about the 8647 crop art display at the Minnesota State Fair sparked controversy, the artwork featuring yellow beans arranged to form the 8647.
- 1:07:20SPEAKER_39: And this was something I don't think I mentioned yesterday.
- 1:07:22SPEAKER_39: It also included red beans dripping from the numbers as if it was blood.
- 1:07:28SPEAKER_39: I think it's pretty clear.
- 1:07:30SPEAKER_39: Supposed to be scary.
- 1:07:32SPEAKER_39: So this was removed at the artist's request, while some media outlets downplayed the controversy, as I mentioned, focused on the artist's privacy.
- 1:07:41SPEAKER_39: Others interpreted the artwork as a veiled critique of former President Donald Trump.
- 1:07:47SPEAKER_39: So in one of the stories that I read yesterday, it was said that Tamara Sawyer, she's the individual who created the 8647 piece of art.
- 1:07:59SPEAKER_39: She had said that she received threats after being doxxed.
- 1:08:04SPEAKER_39: Now, people shouldn't threaten others.
- 1:08:05SPEAKER_39: Let me just say that up front.
- 1:08:06SPEAKER_39: Okay.
- 1:08:07SPEAKER_39: This is not, I'm not advocating for anybody going and threatening anybody, anybody else.
- 1:08:12SPEAKER_39: That said, it's pretty ironic that the person who created crop art with a blatant threat against the president, or even something that could be interpreted as a threat against the president with the image of dripping blood is now upset that they went and received threats.
- 1:08:30SPEAKER_39: The modern left wants all the freedom that the United States, the United States Constitution, has to offer without any of the responsibility while denying those same freedoms to anybody who happens to be on the right.
- 1:08:47SPEAKER_39: This is another example of that.
- 1:08:49SPEAKER_39: Stand by what you wrote.
- 1:08:50SPEAKER_39: You didn't have to take it down.
- 1:08:51SPEAKER_39: Nobody was forcing this to come down.
- 1:08:53SPEAKER_39: It didn't change the dynamic of the story apart from adding an extra element to it.
- 1:09:00SPEAKER_39: You know, Bring Me The News went uh so far as to focus to you, this was right above the Fauci lied display that was there in Crop Art.
- 1:09:08SPEAKER_39: And Alpha News pointed this out in the in the article.
- 1:09:11SPEAKER_39: Yeah, that's true, but there's a huge difference between making a claim, which is actually verifiable regarding Anthony Fauci, because we have it on record that he lied regarding the COVID shot.
- 1:09:26SPEAKER_39: There's a big difference between that and just putting forward, even if it was just an opinion, and imagery that evokes a threat against the president of the United States.
- 1:09:39SPEAKER_39: But again, this is how the modern left operates.
- 1:09:42SPEAKER_39: They want all the freedoms.
- 1:09:43SPEAKER_39: And that's fine.
- 1:09:44SPEAKER_39: You can have them.
- 1:09:47SPEAKER_39: We run into trouble when they want those same freedoms denied from others.
- 1:09:52SPEAKER_39: And in this case, the hypocrisy or the irony that here you made a threat to the president, and now, unfortunately, and people shouldn't threaten, but unfortunately, now you're receiving threats.
- 1:10:02SPEAKER_39: Hopefully, this would end up having an impact on Tamara Sawyer moving forward.
- 1:10:08SPEAKER_39: That you know, perhaps this wasn't the smartest um idea.
- 1:10:12SPEAKER_45: Good morning, John, Kevin, and Bethel.
- 1:10:15SPEAKER_45: Uh, it's really sad.
- 1:10:17SPEAKER_45: People have Trump in their brain.
- 1:10:20SPEAKER_39: Yeah, let me uh let me stop it here because he gets a little bit um gets a little racy on that.
- 1:10:27SPEAKER_39: I'm just looking at the transcript.
- 1:10:28SPEAKER_39: So I know we're streaming, but I'm trying to keep it clean.
- 1:10:31SPEAKER_22: Hey, good morning, John.
- 1:10:32SPEAKER_22: Bruce is Shockby.
- 1:10:33SPEAKER_22: You know, I'm just wondering what kind of a fear there would have been over this had it been Joe Biden's security team that did the same thing, or even Barack Obama's.
- 1:10:44SPEAKER_22: I bet we wouldn't hear a peep out of these so-called journalists, but um, but yeah, they gotta accept the fact that there's a risk, and uh if they can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
- 1:10:57SPEAKER_22: Have a good day.
- 1:10:58SPEAKER_39: So, um, Bruce, thank you for the comment regarding the Netflix documentary of the decoy plane that'll air on Friday.
- 1:11:07SPEAKER_39: I do want to disagree with you because if this had been Joe Biden or Barack Obama in a similar circumstance, you would hear from the media.
- 1:11:19SPEAKER_39: But the media commentary would be from the the journalist commentary who are on board, they would more than likely be talking about what I'm talking about.
- 1:11:28SPEAKER_39: And that is defending the actions of the administration and how they understand the risk involved.
- 1:11:37SPEAKER_39: Let me put it this way.
- 1:11:38SPEAKER_39: Let me back up a little bit on that.
- 1:11:40SPEAKER_39: And thank you so much for for actually sending me down this road.
- 1:11:43SPEAKER_39: We're gonna get back to the Minnesota State Fair in just a moment here on the John Justice show presented by American Experiment.
- 1:11:48SPEAKER_39: But let me just let me go down this little thought experience for a second, uh, experiment for a second.
- 1:11:53SPEAKER_39: If you're a journalist that was on Air Force One, isn't it a better look for you to talk about how I don't want to be too arrogant, right?
- 1:12:06SPEAKER_39: In let me just say if I were a journalist, wouldn't it be more beneficial to say, you know what?
- 1:12:11SPEAKER_39: As a journalist, I understand the risks of going on Air Force One.
- 1:12:17SPEAKER_39: I know that when traveling with the president or any cabinet official, it always carries a level of risk, especially in these volatile times.
- 1:12:29SPEAKER_39: And stress the importance of what journalists actually do in providing insight into administrations.
- 1:12:38SPEAKER_39: I mean, if you want to bolster and bring about more trust within the mainstream media, that's the angle you would take.
- 1:12:48SPEAKER_39: You know, it's like what with with what Katie had had texted me.
- 1:12:51SPEAKER_39: Well, yeah, journalists are aware of the danger.
- 1:12:55SPEAKER_39: She had to escape with Pompeo out of a rock under, you know, out of a rock under threat.
- 1:12:59SPEAKER_39: Now, Katie isn't an arrogant individual, but you could easily, without even being arrogant, make an argument that says this goes to show how important it is for journalists and a level of respect that journalists should receive.
- 1:13:14SPEAKER_39: Now, maybe this will be part of the documentary.
- 1:13:16SPEAKER_39: I'm not holding my breath that that is going to be the case, but that's the more logical response.
- 1:13:24SPEAKER_39: Not what we've already seen so far in the article of those journalists feeling that they were pawns or being used as bait.
- 1:13:34SPEAKER_39: You go the other way on it.
- 1:13:37SPEAKER_39: But the way that I mentioned and how the journalists should have reacted, that's what the reaction would have been if it if it had been Obama or Biden.
- 1:13:43SPEAKER_39: It would have been one, totally worth it.
- 1:13:45SPEAKER_39: We stand behind our president and we're willing to go and do our part as journalists to protect this administration because we know the value of the presidential role of the individual occupying the White House, and two, stress the importance of journalists putting themselves in harm's way to bring transparency to the American people.
- 1:14:05SPEAKER_39: Now, that may end up happening.
- 1:14:08SPEAKER_39: It remains to be seen.
- 1:14:09SPEAKER_39: But again, this is me sitting here, not holding my breath, that that is going to end up being the response.
- 1:14:21SPEAKER_39: We do have comments that have rolled into the blaster line.
- 1:14:24SPEAKER_39: 651-964-0294.
- 1:14:27SPEAKER_39: This ought to be interesting.
- 1:14:30SPEAKER_08: You crack me up, Mogus.
- 1:14:34SPEAKER_08: Yeah, if uh you're A, you're taking hook line sinker Israeli intelligence propaganda.
- 1:14:42SPEAKER_08: So it was probably a lie.
- 1:14:44SPEAKER_39: And B, if that plane Netflix is doing a documentary with first hand accounts from journalists regarding the story.
- 1:14:55SPEAKER_39: I just why do I bother trying to get into the mind of somebody suffering from Trump derangement syndrome?
- 1:15:01SPEAKER_39: Let's go back to see what else that Eric from Brainer doing that thing with my fingers has to do.
- 1:15:09SPEAKER_39: Let me let me let me back up here a little bit.
- 1:15:10SPEAKER_08: So I and B if that plane had exploded and Katie Pavlich and all those people had died, you guys would be uh as incensed as 9-11 and asking to basically put a nuke on the Middle East and crying and screaming.
- 1:15:28SPEAKER_08: So no.
- 1:15:29SPEAKER_39: Should we not be if that were the case?
- 1:15:33SPEAKER_39: If we had American military and a cabinet member targeted and taken out along with journalists, are we would we not be justifiably incensed?
- 1:15:47SPEAKER_08: It's not just a little thing, and no, people weren't thinking they were unsafe traveling Air Force One.
- 1:15:52SPEAKER_08: Um, but we all know that Trump would have gladly killed all those journalists and his own staff members just to, you know, make a message or whatever.
- 1:16:02SPEAKER_08: So um, no, it's not cool and it's not like a movie.
- 1:16:07SPEAKER_08: It's kind of gross and disgusting that he would even do something like that.
- 1:16:12SPEAKER_39: So, so so is the argument here that President Donald Trump should have stayed on Air Force One under this Iranian threat because it sends the wrong message to protect the president?
- 1:16:29SPEAKER_39: Is that the logic here, or should I not even bother trying to get into the logic of what Eric from Brainerd is attempting to articulate here?
- 1:16:40SPEAKER_08: It's disgusting that he would even do something like that, which is you know, administration.
- 1:16:46SPEAKER_08: Can't believe you guys are going down this path.
- 1:16:48SPEAKER_08: Thanks.
- 1:16:49SPEAKER_39: I I I I I don't even know what he's talking about.
- 1:16:52SPEAKER_39: Like I want to push back on it, but I can't even make sense of the logic.
- 1:17:01SPEAKER_39: Friend of the show, Hans texted in.
- 1:17:03SPEAKER_39: Okay, Eric is clearly stupid.
- 1:17:05SPEAKER_39: That's enough of him slash her.
- 1:17:06SPEAKER_39: Put him in the penalty box.
- 1:17:10SPEAKER_39: I love to hear from the other side.
- 1:17:13SPEAKER_39: It's just unfortunate that we get such vapid Trump derangement syndrome tinged commentary from the other side.
- 1:17:20SPEAKER_39: I would like a better, I would like better quality leftists to leave text messages or voice messages to the blaster line, please.
- 1:17:29SPEAKER_39: Is that too hard to ask?
- 1:17:33SPEAKER_39: All right.
- 1:17:35SPEAKER_39: Let's get back to some of your thoughts this morning.
- 1:17:38SPEAKER_28: I'm skeptical of the Netflix documentary having first-hand accounts from the journalist witnesses, as the Russian dossier also had first-hand accounts, and that did not seem to be very accurate.
- 1:17:53SPEAKER_28: Have a good day.
- 1:17:54SPEAKER_39: Yeah, I'm not uh I'm not um I'm not necessarily worried about the validity of the commentary coming from the individuals that were on Air Force One that were interviewed by Netflix, only because that's something that can be easily refuted.
- 1:18:08SPEAKER_39: You're gonna have a um a diversity of uh political ideologies attached to these journalists, depending on what outlet they belong to.
- 1:18:19SPEAKER_39: And anybody providing commentary that's contrary to what actually happened is easily refuted by the other individuals on the plane.
- 1:18:25SPEAKER_39: My question is how Netflix is gonna frame all of this.
- 1:18:29SPEAKER_39: Which journalists did they talk to?
- 1:18:32SPEAKER_39: Which commentary and what commentary did they decide to pick to form whatever narrative that they've chosen to run with when it comes to this documentary?
- 1:18:43SPEAKER_39: That's where my that's where my questions lie over the Netflix documentary over the over the decoy plane.
- 1:18:49SPEAKER_46: So, John, I'm confused.
- 1:18:51SPEAKER_46: If the reporters want to be on the plane with the president, are they saying that they're hostages of the president and they're basically a human shield?
- 1:19:00SPEAKER_46: Or are they saying that they're so important to the other side of the Iranians?
- 1:19:04SPEAKER_46: The Iranians would never shoot down their allies.
- 1:19:08SPEAKER_39: I guess we'll have to wait and see the documentary to find that out.
- 1:19:11SPEAKER_39: But thank you for the comment.
- 1:19:12SPEAKER_39: This morning on the blaster line, 651-964-0294.
- 1:19:16SPEAKER_49: I have a boss, and I have to do what my boss tells me to do.
- 1:19:20SPEAKER_49: When it comes to security, President Trump has to do what his boss, when it comes to security, tells him to do.
- 1:19:28SPEAKER_49: He doesn't have a choice with that.
- 1:19:30SPEAKER_49: Everyone should know this.
- 1:19:32SPEAKER_49: The Secret Service told him what to do, and that's what he had to do.
- 1:19:36SPEAKER_39: Yeah, thank you for that.
- 1:19:37SPEAKER_39: Thank you.
- 1:19:37SPEAKER_39: Yeah, no, thank you.
- 1:19:38SPEAKER_39: That's a fantastic point, just to push back on Eric's ridiculous assertion.
- 1:19:42SPEAKER_39: Which is why I get frustrated.
- 1:19:43SPEAKER_39: Like, I like to play those comments because, again, I want to hear the other side, but clearly the comments that I receive from foes of the show, they're only designed to provoke, they're not providing any sort of logic at all.
- 1:19:57SPEAKER_39: Even if you want to push back on the president with this, no, the the comment from the friend of the show that you just heard is spot on.
- 1:20:04SPEAKER_39: President Donald Trump probably had no choice in the matter.
- 1:20:07SPEAKER_39: Secret Service probably told him this is where you're gonna go.
- 1:20:10SPEAKER_39: You're getting in that car, we're driving that direction.
- 1:20:12SPEAKER_39: I mean, I suppose the president could say, no, keep me on the plane with the journalists, but at the end of the day, these are decisions the Secret Service would make for any president, regardless of political affiliation.
- 1:20:25SPEAKER_32: Oh my God, Eric, quit using the drugs and the voice modulator.
- 1:20:30SPEAKER_32: Uh so why wouldn't we destroy a country that targeted high-level political official of the United States for assassination, as well as all the people around them?
- 1:20:43SPEAKER_32: Uh that's like the primary thing you do, because that is literally an attack against the country.
- 1:20:48SPEAKER_32: So, yes, they would be turned into a parking lot.
- 1:20:51SPEAKER_32: Uh how is it propaganda when it's leftist media were putting out the story?
- 1:20:58SPEAKER_32: You're brain dead, idiot.
- 1:21:00SPEAKER_32: Oh good God.
- 1:21:01SPEAKER_32: And it's so gross that Trump did this.
- 1:21:04SPEAKER_32: No, the enemies of the United States made it necessary for it to happen.
- 1:21:10SPEAKER_32: Find the right people.
- 1:21:13SPEAKER_39: It'll be um it will be interesting to see.
- 1:21:16SPEAKER_39: And I had another I had another text that rolled in regarding the Netflix uh documentary, the Netflix documentary and the journalists on Air Force One.
- 1:21:24SPEAKER_39: You know, is there gonna be coverage as we head into the anniversary of 9-11?
- 1:21:29SPEAKER_39: Are we gonna be talking about what the passengers went through then on that occasion?
- 1:21:34SPEAKER_39: I'm just wondering.
- 1:21:36SPEAKER_39: Since we're talking about planes and dangerous situation regarding planes, yeah.
- 1:21:42SPEAKER_39: Uh, let's go here.
- 1:21:44SPEAKER_18: Hi, it's Mark from New Brighton.
- 1:21:46SPEAKER_18: You were asking for a better quality leftist to call into the show.
- 1:21:50SPEAKER_39: Okay, let me stop here because he's about to make a really good point.
- 1:21:53SPEAKER_39: Just want to give him credit.
- 1:21:54SPEAKER_39: I want to give him I want to give him pre-credit.
- 1:21:57SPEAKER_39: Okay.
- 1:21:58SPEAKER_39: It's kind of like minority report in pre-crime.
- 1:22:00SPEAKER_39: I'm gonna give him pre-credit before you hear the comedy's about to make because he's right.
- 1:22:04SPEAKER_39: I should have known better.
- 1:22:05SPEAKER_18: No such thing.
- 1:22:10SPEAKER_18: Incoherent goo is probably the best expectation you can have.
- 1:22:14unknown: Thanks.
- 1:22:14SPEAKER_39: Nah, you know what?
- 1:22:15SPEAKER_39: I'll again give it credit where credit's due.
- 1:22:17SPEAKER_39: On occasion, you know, there was some decent commentary coming from foe of the show, Phil.
- 1:22:23SPEAKER_39: It was better at the start when he used to leave messages.
- 1:22:28SPEAKER_39: It got worse as time went on when he felt like he was attaining a celebrity status.
- 1:22:33SPEAKER_39: Clearly, he hasn't found the news show uh yet.
- 1:22:36SPEAKER_39: Uh, somebody else had texted in.
- 1:22:38SPEAKER_39: Can we have an intervention done on Eric?
- 1:22:40SPEAKER_39: He slash she is clearly in need of mental health treatment.
- 1:22:42SPEAKER_39: Yeah, they need a team.
- 1:22:44SPEAKER_39: I'm not talking about like one person.
- 1:22:45SPEAKER_39: I'm not talking about one psychiatrist.
- 1:22:47SPEAKER_39: I mean, they need like a university-level group of individuals to do the examination uh on uh on him.
- 1:22:54SPEAKER_39: Uh, let's see.
- 1:22:56SPEAKER_39: Uh a caller in recent history referred to Eric as an earache from Brainerd.
- 1:23:01SPEAKER_39: I submit that he should be referred to as such in all references on the uh on the air.
- 1:23:07SPEAKER_39: Somebody else texted in.
- 1:23:09SPEAKER_39: I bet this Netflix documentary turns into a Hallmark romance.
- 1:23:12SPEAKER_39: Wouldn't that be a twist?
- 1:23:14SPEAKER_39: Journalists find love amid the terror of Iranian threats against the presidency.
- 1:23:20SPEAKER_39: Thank you to everybody uh leaving the uh comments this morning.
- 1:23:23SPEAKER_39: I appreciate it.
- 1:23:23SPEAKER_39: You can continue to do so on the blaster line, 651-964-0294.
- 1:23:29SPEAKER_39: Going to the fair, beware of the DFL donut stand.
- 1:23:33SPEAKER_39: Unless you happen to be a DFL or and you want to buy donuts and have money going to the to the DFL, then this is the stand that you want to go and uh partake in your sugary uh treats at.
- 1:23:44SPEAKER_39: So I'll give you details on that story coming up.
- 1:23:47SPEAKER_39: Also, amid the$9 billion in fraud here in Minnesota.
- 1:23:52SPEAKER_39: Yes, the number is accurate, uh, Channel 5.
- 1:23:55SPEAKER_39: Just letting you know.
- 1:23:56SPEAKER_39: Just so you're aware.
- 1:23:57SPEAKER_39: Uh be that as it may, Minnesota has Claude back.
- 1:24:01SPEAKER_39: $5,000 from conservation officers.
- 1:24:05SPEAKER_39: It's a pretty ridiculous story.
- 1:24:06SPEAKER_39: I'll share with you the details here uh in just a moment on the John Justice show.
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- 1:26:27SPEAKER_40: And now here is commentary from the guests, hosts, and policy fellows of American Experiment.
- 1:26:32SPEAKER_41: I don't think any other state has this besides Minnesota.
- 1:26:35SPEAKER_41: Okay, number one, you can vouch for up to eight people.
- 1:26:37SPEAKER_41: Yeah.
- 1:26:37SPEAKER_41: But then we also have same-day election uh registration, and we don't have provisional ballots.
- 1:26:42SPEAKER_41: So those elements all combine together.
- 1:26:44SPEAKER_41: You don't other states that have same-day voter registration have a provisional ballot.
- 1:26:49SPEAKER_41: And so when you register to vote, typically if you're doing it in advance, you know, your your registration is checked so that when you actually go to vote on election day, you've been vetted by the state in some way.
- 1:26:59SPEAKER_41: Um but when you have same day registration, obviously there's not time for that to happen.
- 1:27:03SPEAKER_41: And so your vote gets counted immediately.
- 1:27:05SPEAKER_41: It gets put into the pool and it's never coming back out.
- 1:27:07SPEAKER_41: Other states, they will have same-day registrants use a what's called a provisional ballot.
- 1:27:12SPEAKER_41: And so, you know, they they cast their vote, but it's set off aside, and it's not actually added into the mix until their registration has been verified, which makes sense.
- 1:27:20SPEAKER_41: You know, Minnesota doesn't have that.
- 1:27:22SPEAKER_23: Let your voice be heard on the John Justice show by leaving a text or voice message blast and call the blaster line at 651-964-0294.
- 1:27:30SPEAKER_23: That's 651-964-0294.
- 1:27:34SPEAKER_00: Think about it.
- 1:27:35SPEAKER_00: Black and Hispanic students in Mississippi perform better in reading and math than black and Hispanic students in Minnesota.
- 1:27:42SPEAKER_00: And Mississippi spends thousands of dollars less per student than Minnesota.
- 1:27:46SPEAKER_00: Mississippi spends less money, gets better results, and their achievement gaps are closing, while ours are getting worse.
- 1:27:53SPEAKER_00: Think about it.
- 1:28:00SPEAKER_00: Is brought to you by Center of the American Experiment, Minnesota's think tank.
- 1:28:04SPEAKER_42: So Scott Pressler, he's a conservative activist, he posted on X that he also did some of these data requests.
- 1:28:09SPEAKER_42: And he was told that in St.
- 1:28:10SPEAKER_42: Louis County, which is the home of Duluth, 737 people registered to vote through vouching.
- 1:28:17SPEAKER_42: 737.
- 1:28:19SPEAKER_42: So let's go back to the 2022 election really quick just to see if we can get a clear example of okay, will that number of people vouching ever really matter?
- 1:28:28SPEAKER_42: It seems like a small number.
- 1:28:31SPEAKER_42: Well, in 2022, in the Cottage Grove Hastings area, Democrat Judy Seeburger won her state Senate election by 321 votes.
- 1:28:40SPEAKER_42: As our listeners may remember, the Democrats held the Senate that year by one seat.
- 1:28:45SPEAKER_40: Support the John Justice show by becoming an advertiser.
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- 1:28:55SPEAKER_48: The best part of waking up is knowing Kamala.
- 1:29:03SPEAKER_20: Good morning.
- 1:29:04SPEAKER_20: There's uh no way we're gonna get good comments from the left because they the ones that would leave a coherent and a reasonable point of view actually side with us.
- 1:29:15SPEAKER_20: So they just go silent.
- 1:29:17SPEAKER_20: We're only getting, and you're only gonna get the the crazies just because uh of that fact.
- 1:29:23SPEAKER_20: And here's the deal that they won't side with us because it would be giving, you know, uh an acknowledgement to the fact that we are right.
- 1:29:31SPEAKER_39: Yeah, I don't I don't have any expectation that a foe of the show, when challenging any of the commentary that I have would end up changing their mind, even though they would be given the right point of view and accurate information.
- 1:29:49SPEAKER_39: However, I do think that there is better commentary and debate to be had than what the current foes of the show offer.
- 1:29:58SPEAKER_39: So, by example, I mentioned the individual who listens on a daily basis, apparently to the podcast, not live, but who's met me a few times in previous uh years at the Minnesota State Fair.
- 1:30:10SPEAKER_39: And we had a rational conversation this past Saturday when American Experiment was out at the at the fair.
- 1:30:16SPEAKER_39: I mean, we disagreed on policy.
- 1:30:17SPEAKER_39: I disagreed with his take on what Republicans would do and his idea that Republicans wouldn't be able to handle fraud here in Minnesota, considering that he believes that we have the biggest fraudster ever sitting in the in the White House.
- 1:30:30SPEAKER_39: I mean, it's an irrational argument, but you can still have a conversation regarding that.
- 1:30:34SPEAKER_39: And I was able to have a conversation with him, and he was very pleasant in the end.
- 1:30:37SPEAKER_39: He talked about how pleased he was that I was with American Experiment.
- 1:30:40SPEAKER_39: He believes in free speech and that all voices and all sides should be heard on the issue.
- 1:30:44SPEAKER_39: And we were, you know, sort of left agreeing to disagree.
- 1:30:48SPEAKER_39: So there is rational, let me take that back.
- 1:30:52SPEAKER_39: There is debate to be had.
- 1:30:54SPEAKER_39: Whether or not it's rational remains to be seen.
- 1:30:56SPEAKER_39: But there is better quality commentary than what we typically receive.
- 1:31:00SPEAKER_39: And I'm convinced that, and I don't want to bring too much attention to it, we'll get to a few more of your thoughts.
- 1:31:05SPEAKER_39: I'm convinced that Eric says the things that he she says in order to spark the reaction that we're hearing from you.
- 1:31:14SPEAKER_39: But I appreciate the commentary, and you raise uh really relevant points when we talk about and hear from these foes of the show to the blaster line at 651-964-0294.
- 1:31:26SPEAKER_39: Let's go and hear from another friend of the show.
- 1:31:28SPEAKER_03: Good morning.
- 1:31:29SPEAKER_03: So if Eric Trumrain and all the leftists had their way, the U.S.
- 1:31:35SPEAKER_03: would muffle fawn and power every time an international bully tried to transcribe or a country.
- 1:31:43SPEAKER_39: Oh, it broke up here.
- 1:31:44SPEAKER_39: Let me go ahead and share the credit the transcript while they were driving.
- 1:31:47SPEAKER_39: She says, uh, um, let's see.
- 1:31:50SPEAKER_39: Uh if the leftists had their way, um, every time an international bully or a country as a whole, um it never works with bullies.
- 1:32:00SPEAKER_39: Just ignore the bullies.
- 1:32:01SPEAKER_39: You have to quickly you uh have to respond to a bully by putting it in his place.
- 1:32:07SPEAKER_39: And then, and I apologize here, the it got it got garbled.
- 1:32:10SPEAKER_39: So maybe she can leave another voicemail here.
- 1:32:12SPEAKER_39: I think she's talking about just dealing with bullies and bullying tactics and how you go and handle bullies.
- 1:32:16SPEAKER_39: So it just got garbled there uh via uh the uh blaster line this morning as she was uh as she was driving.
- 1:32:24SPEAKER_39: All right, let's go here.
- 1:32:25SPEAKER_39: Talk about the Minnesota State Fair.
- 1:32:26SPEAKER_39: If you want to comment again, 651-964-0294.
- 1:32:31SPEAKER_39: So the Minnesota State Fair has hit its stride.
- 1:32:33SPEAKER_39: I guess we were only 21 people away from breaking the record over the weekend, so it really wasn't that far off the mark, apparently.
- 1:32:41SPEAKER_39: Uh fair attendees with conservative leanings might want to keep a close eye on uh more than just uh their waistlines while indulging at one particular uh vendor.
- 1:32:52SPEAKER_39: This is according to an article from Alpha News, and we've talked about this in previous years.
- 1:32:56SPEAKER_39: If you're a DFL er, then this is great news for you.
- 1:32:59SPEAKER_39: This is the this is the donut stand that you you should go to.
- 1:33:02SPEAKER_39: If you're a conservative and you don't want to be giving to the DFL, then this is a grandstand mini donut stand that you should avoid.
- 1:33:09SPEAKER_39: It is the grandstand mini donut stand.
- 1:33:11SPEAKER_39: It has an agenda that's not listed on the menu.
- 1:33:14SPEAKER_39: While you're savoring those sugary delights, some of your dollars are quietly making their way into the coffers of the DFL.
- 1:33:20SPEAKER_39: Now it's located in front of the grandstand, east of Chamber Street, south of the grandstand.
- 1:33:26SPEAKER_39: This stands profits funnel through the Best of Fair Foods Political Action Committee, once known as the 10th Ward and Rural Ramsey County Political Committee.
- 1:33:39SPEAKER_39: According to the campaign finance reports, Best of Fair Foods took in about$225,907 in 2022.
- 1:33:47SPEAKER_39: It's a chunk of change.
- 1:33:49SPEAKER_39: That year, the PAT contributed$42,000 to various DFL party units across the state.
- 1:33:55SPEAKER_39: For example, a local DFL party unit that covers Lino Lakes, White Bear Lake, and Vadness Heist received$8,820.
- 1:34:03SPEAKER_39: Another DFL party unit, which covers Moundsview, Shoreview, and parts of Roseville, that they received some$14,280.
- 1:34:12SPEAKER_39: Now, while Grandstand Donuts does not reveal that its profits are funneled to the DFL, there is a small sign at the booth listing the donut ingredients, accompanied by a brief statement that says pursuant to Minnesota statutes, proceeds from the purchase of these products are a political contribution to the Best Fair Foods Committee, which donates profits to better Ramsey County.
- 1:34:38SPEAKER_39: So they make sure they have the legal lease in there, although it's kind of buried.
- 1:34:42SPEAKER_39: So they, I would imagine, anticipate that people wouldn't see it.
- 1:34:48SPEAKER_39: Because the profits benefit political causes, the booth enforces a limit on transactions per person to keep purchases under$20.
- 1:34:56SPEAKER_39: This allows them to avoid reporting donor names as required by the Minnesota campaign finance law for contributions over$20.
- 1:35:04SPEAKER_39: Now, Alpha News did reach out to Best Fair Foods with a few questions about their operation.
- 1:35:08SPEAKER_39: However, the Political Action Committee did not provide any answers.
- 1:35:12SPEAKER_39: So if you're looking to dodge the DFL donuts, you might want to head over to Sweet Martha's Cookies to get your sugary fix, rights Alpha News.
- 1:35:20SPEAKER_39: But if you're a diehard DFL fan, this is for you, uh Eric and Brainerd, consider this your chance to have your cake or donut and support your party too.
- 1:35:29SPEAKER_39: Just letting you know.
- 1:35:32SPEAKER_39: All right, let's go back to the blaster line this morning.
- 1:35:34SPEAKER_39: I think we might have better audio quality as a friend of the show uh did leave another blast talking about their bullying.
- 1:35:42SPEAKER_03: I'll try again.
- 1:35:44SPEAKER_03: Sorry about the audio.
- 1:35:46SPEAKER_03: Uh the gist of it was that you cannot ignore a bully and think that they will go away.
- 1:35:52SPEAKER_03: You have to respond quickly.
- 1:35:54SPEAKER_03: There you go.
- 1:35:55SPEAKER_03: Put them in their place so everyone on the playground can have a better existence.
- 1:36:01SPEAKER_03: You can't ignore bullies.
- 1:36:03SPEAKER_03: You have to respond.
- 1:36:04SPEAKER_03: The US can't be passionate.
- 1:36:06SPEAKER_39: Yeah, great point.
- 1:36:07SPEAKER_39: And thank you for uh for calling back with better uh audio quality.
- 1:36:11SPEAKER_39: I greatly uh appreciate it.
- 1:36:13SPEAKER_39: Again, the blaster line, text or voicemail, 651-964-0294, new and improved.
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- 1:38:03SPEAKER_13: So adding on to the conversation about bolds, and that's what social Marxist communists are.
- 1:38:09SPEAKER_13: If you ignore them, they just create a stronghold and then they come after you.
- 1:38:13SPEAKER_13: Like conservatives, I live my life, you live your life, I'll leave you alone.
- 1:38:17SPEAKER_13: But the Marxists and communists, they're gonna try to force you to live the life they want.
- 1:38:22SPEAKER_13: You have to confront them.
- 1:38:23SPEAKER_13: Yep.
- 1:38:24SPEAKER_13: You have to stop them.
- 1:38:25SPEAKER_39: And we're gonna be talking more about that very issue coming up a little bit, uh, a little bit later on in the show as well.
- 1:38:32SPEAKER_39: Uh, somebody left a uh left a message from what you just read from that sign on the mini donut stand, those mini donuts are apparently tax deductible?
- 1:38:39SPEAKER_39: Yeah, I believe they would be.
- 1:38:42SPEAKER_39: I mean, according to the language and you're giving to a political action committee, I would imagine that that would also mean that they would be uh they would be tax um deductible.
- 1:38:50SPEAKER_39: So let's go here.
- 1:38:52SPEAKER_39: So Minnesota has become ground zero for fraud schemes that federal officials have said could ultimately cost the taxpayers as much as$9 billion, just setting the stage on this alpha news piece.
- 1:39:07SPEAKER_39: So you have billions in taxpayer dollars estimated to have disappeared through the fraud-riddled government programs.
- 1:39:15SPEAKER_39: However, the state has managed to claw back$4,998.04.
- 1:39:23SPEAKER_39: I'm gonna round this up to$5,000 for the sake of the rest of the article and not saying$4,998.04 every single time.
- 1:39:32SPEAKER_39: It's pretty close, right?
- 1:39:33unknown: Okay.
- 1:39:34SPEAKER_39: So the state has managed to wrangle about$5,000.
- 1:39:37SPEAKER_39: It said was wrongly paid to seven conservation officers, some of whom also serve in the military.
- 1:39:48SPEAKER_39: So while we're, you know, you've asked so many times on the show can we get back some of the$9 billion in fraud?
- 1:39:55SPEAKER_39: Yes, General Five, it's nine billion in fraud.
- 1:39:58SPEAKER_39: It's actually probably more.
- 1:39:59SPEAKER_39: But that's the most accurate assessment for as much as they want to downplay that.
- 1:40:03SPEAKER_39: Okay.
- 1:40:04SPEAKER_39: So while you have asked constantly about can we claw back any of this money, the state is going after some dollars, five thousand dollars a piece to seven conservation officers, some of whom happen to have chosen to serve in our nation's military.
- 1:40:21SPEAKER_39: So for those that aren't aware, um the conservation officer, they were formerly called game wardens, licensed state law enforcement officers who protect public safety and also enforce national resource law.
- 1:40:36SPEAKER_39: They were deployed during Operation Metro Surge.
- 1:40:38SPEAKER_39: We'll get to it in just a second.
- 1:40:40SPEAKER_39: I'm not sure why that's is the case, but if you want to offer any further insight uh into that, I uh I would be I would be interested.
- 1:40:47SPEAKER_39: Oh, we have a text that came in.
- 1:40:49SPEAKER_39: PACT donations are not tax deductible.
- 1:40:50SPEAKER_39: So we got a quick response on that.
- 1:40:52SPEAKER_39: So thank you for the clarification.
- 1:40:53SPEAKER_39: I appreciate it.
- 1:40:55SPEAKER_39: So back to this story.
- 1:40:57SPEAKER_39: The Minnesota Department of Natural Resources, DNR, confirmed that it conducted a payroll audit examining their records from 2022 through part of 26 to determine how conservation officers were calculating the overtime during pay periods in which they used paid military leave.
- 1:41:17SPEAKER_39: Now, I'm gonna I'm gonna be completely upfront on this.
- 1:41:21SPEAKER_39: I'm gonna put forward a bit of a theory that leans into conspiracy territory.
- 1:41:26SPEAKER_39: So just bear with me.
- 1:41:28SPEAKER_39: It's not a hard leap to make, and it seems pretty logical, but I just want to prepare you, okay?
- 1:41:34SPEAKER_39: So the result of this audit of these conservation officers resulted in what they believed were roughly$5,000 in overpayments spread across 20 pay periods to seven officers.
- 1:41:52SPEAKER_39: One conservation officer who spoke with Alpha News on a condition of anonymity called the situation outrageous, saying the officers are being forced to repay money they received under what he says had previously been an accepted payroll practice.
- 1:42:07SPEAKER_39: The officer served in the Minnesota National Guard while simultaneously working as a conservation officer.
- 1:42:13SPEAKER_39: Okay, so this probably brings into why they were involved in um Operation MetroSearch.
- 1:42:20SPEAKER_39: Despite this being an accepted practice, the state retroactively investigated employees, the officer said.
- 1:42:27SPEAKER_39: It is simply outrageous that the Minnesota DNR would recoup money it paid to employees for a practice that was previously accepted by the agency.
- 1:42:37SPEAKER_39: It all comes down to 86 hours.
- 1:42:42SPEAKER_39: The dispute is complicated on paper, but fairly simple in practice.
- 1:42:46SPEAKER_39: Conservation officers generally must accumulate 86 qualifying hours during a two-week period before additional hours qualify for overtime.
- 1:42:59SPEAKER_39: Officers who serve in the National Guard or Reserve are entitled to paid military leave when they have military obligations.
- 1:43:06SPEAKER_39: The question is whether those military leave hours count toward the 86-hour overtime threshold.
- 1:43:13SPEAKER_39: According to the DNR, they don't.
- 1:43:16SPEAKER_39: Consider an officer who works 70 hours for the DNR and then uses 16 hours of paid military leave to attend a required National Guard drill.
- 1:43:30SPEAKER_39: The officer has been paid for 86 hours.
- 1:43:33SPEAKER_39: But for the purposes of reaching the overtime threshold, the DNR says that it's only accumulated 70 qualifying hours.
- 1:43:42SPEAKER_39: If it sounds like we're splitting hairs here, yeah, that's what it sounds like.
- 1:43:49SPEAKER_39: That means he must actually work another 16 hours for the DNR before additional hours begin qualifying for overtime.
- 1:44:00SPEAKER_39: For officers working ordinary schedules, the distinction may not mean much.
- 1:44:04SPEAKER_39: During periods when conservation officers are called upon to work extended hours, however, it can mean the difference between receiving regular pay and time and a half.
- 1:44:13SPEAKER_39: The officer who contacted Alpha News said that happened to him while conservation officers were heavily deployed to the Twin Cities during Operation Metro Surge.
- 1:44:25SPEAKER_39: Despite the long days of uncertainty, my claim to overtime worked during this time was denied because I had to drill in that time frame, he said.
- 1:44:37SPEAKER_39: Because of the drill, I was forced to claim straight time instead of overtime for the equivalent of two days or more worked.
- 1:44:46SPEAKER_39: He also said he would have faced the same consequence had he used sick leave.
- 1:44:52SPEAKER_39: Oh, he would not have faced the same consequence.
- 1:44:55SPEAKER_39: If he had used sick leave instead of military leave.
- 1:44:57SPEAKER_39: I wonder what it would have been if they had used paid family leave.
- 1:45:04SPEAKER_39: Out of curiosity.
- 1:45:06SPEAKER_39: Before I get to more on the story and my conspiracy theory, just being upfront, let's go back and uh hear from you in the blaster line at 651-964-0294.
- 1:45:16SPEAKER_31: Well, thank goodness that DIMWalls is going after our law enforcement officers, our DNR officers and military to gain back pennies.
- 1:45:26SPEAKER_31: Because he has to give the raise and a promotion to his Dimwood employee that scratched up all these Tesla cars.
- 1:45:35SPEAKER_31: Right.
- 1:45:36SPEAKER_31: Yeah.
- 1:45:36SPEAKER_31: That's that sounds like about what this administration is about.
- 1:45:39SPEAKER_31: Yep.
- 1:45:40SPEAKER_31: Thanks, Dimmy.
- 1:45:42SPEAKER_39: Oh, Dimmy.
- 1:45:43SPEAKER_39: I like Dimmy.
- 1:45:44SPEAKER_39: That's a good one.
- 1:45:46SPEAKER_39: Uh all right, let's go here.
- 1:45:49SPEAKER_39: Come on, John, for nine billion dollars.
- 1:45:52SPEAKER_39: Wow, he's all Scott is already at a five.
- 1:45:54SPEAKER_39: That might be a six on the Scott Con level this morning.
- 1:46:01SPEAKER_39: Caught me off guard.
- 1:46:02SPEAKER_39: I don't get the names anymore, so I don't know.
- 1:46:05SPEAKER_39: So with the new blaster line, it's trade-offs, right?
- 1:46:08SPEAKER_39: The audio quality is exponentially better.
- 1:46:11SPEAKER_39: I'm so thrilled.
- 1:46:12SPEAKER_39: Now we have text messaging, which is awesome.
- 1:46:14SPEAKER_39: And I have a phone number that I can call out on, which is fantastic as well.
- 1:46:18SPEAKER_39: So I finally completed one component of the new show here at American Experiment that I was desperate to go and fix.
- 1:46:24SPEAKER_39: And it's on me, by the way, because I could have done this all along.
- 1:46:26SPEAKER_39: I had no idea.
- 1:46:28SPEAKER_39: I found this program completely free.
- 1:46:30SPEAKER_39: Gives me everything I need.
- 1:46:32SPEAKER_39: So everything happens for a reason, right?
- 1:46:34SPEAKER_39: So I wasn't aware.
- 1:46:35SPEAKER_39: So that's why I'm not able to do the prediction on the Scott Con levels.
- 1:46:40SPEAKER_39: So actually, we could do that, but Scott, you're gonna have to let me know ahead of time.
- 1:46:44SPEAKER_39: So I can see the transcript.
- 1:46:45SPEAKER_39: Anyways, Devin, producer, I think you're right.
- 1:46:48SPEAKER_39: He's at a six.
- 1:46:49SPEAKER_21: Jamar John, for nine billion dollars in fraud, they're going after some conservation officers who are civil servants out there trying to protect animals and the uh, what would you call it, the environment.
- 1:47:04SPEAKER_21: And on top of it, they serve in the military.
- 1:47:06SPEAKER_21: So they're just good overall guys, but let's go after them for about five grand.
- 1:47:12SPEAKER_21: Isn't that rich when we have these fraudsters taking billions of dollars on behalf of their own Mercedes-Benzes and fancy houses and shipping money off to other countries?
- 1:47:25SPEAKER_21: What a joke of a state we live in.
- 1:47:28SPEAKER_39: So the stories of this seem ridiculous.
- 1:47:33SPEAKER_39: Don't misunderstand my my my comments here.
- 1:47:36SPEAKER_39: You know, because I agree with with Scott on this.
- 1:47:40SPEAKER_39: By comparison to what we've dealt with, and excuse me, by comparison with what we've dealt with regarding fraud, you're absolutely right.
- 1:47:49SPEAKER_39: I don't mind if the Minnesota state government is looking into making sure that all the dollars are accounted for.
- 1:48:00SPEAKER_39: I think this is egregious, don't misunderstand.
- 1:48:02SPEAKER_39: I don't mind that they're looking into it, but there's just no level of consistency with any of it.
- 1:48:10SPEAKER_39: You know, and listen, and in this case, you could easily solve this problem by not retroactively going after these conservation officers and members of our military for$5,000 spread over 20 weeks for crying out loud that wouldn't make any difference when it comes to the balance sheets of the state of Minnesota and the future of this economy.
- 1:48:30SPEAKER_39: You could establish moving forward that you have a standard that you're going to adhere to to not allow these overtime hours to accumulate the way that they did, offering potential extended overpay to what they should have received.
- 1:48:45SPEAKER_39: But let's not go and take it from the individuals who were unaware of the situation.
- 1:48:51SPEAKER_39: And also helping the state of Minnesota at a time when you had the very government that now wants to take the money away from them was the same individuals that were perpetuating the idiots heading out on the streets to get in the way of lawful law enforcement.
- 1:49:06SPEAKER_39: Before I get back to more of your to more of your thoughts on this, let me offer up my conspiracy on this.
- 1:49:11SPEAKER_39: So, first off, these conservation officers, National Guard or otherwise, it seems like they were involved in Operation Metro Surge.
- 1:49:18SPEAKER_39: And there may be a connection here to that.
- 1:49:22SPEAKER_39: So is that connection, by the way, is this tied at all to Governor Dim Walls and his new Truth Council?
- 1:49:36SPEAKER_39: Because I'm convinced that, as I've mentioned, the Truth Council in the story that we covered earlier this week, this is supposed to be the bipartisan group being led by Judge Peter Cahill, who was the judge who presided over the trial uh in the death of George Floyd, who ended up doling out additional punishment on one of the officers that day simply because they went and cited scripture.
- 1:50:00SPEAKER_39: During one of the hearings, and that was a bridge too far for this radical leftist.
- 1:50:04SPEAKER_39: But this is the individual that's going to lead a bipartisan truth council to get to what really happened with Operation Metro Surge.
- 1:50:11SPEAKER_39: So this is all one big setup.
- 1:50:12SPEAKER_39: Their report is going to be issued on October 31st.
- 1:50:16SPEAKER_39: It's going to be damning to immigrations and customs enforcement.
- 1:50:20SPEAKER_39: It's going to be damning to the Trump administration from whatever this non-bipartisan, incredibly partisan group, in my opinion.
- 1:50:28SPEAKER_39: It's all going to be just a bunch of garbage.
- 1:50:30SPEAKER_39: But this is what the results are going to yield.
- 1:50:32SPEAKER_39: And more than likely, they're going to be attaching a dollar figure to the amount of money that Operation Metro Surge they will have determined on their own through whatever calculus they put together to reach the number that they want.
- 1:50:47SPEAKER_39: But that number will supersede the number that the mainstream media is now presenting as the real number in their eyes of the amount of fraud that's been perpetuated on you, the taxpayer, here in Minnesota, just to provide the opportunity for Democrat candidates to say that Operation Metro Surge was worse on the state and cost the state more than the fraud did.
- 1:51:10SPEAKER_39: That's my prediction on this.
- 1:51:11SPEAKER_39: And I can't help but wonder if moves like this are lending credibility to that.
- 1:51:16SPEAKER_39: And this is just one of many different aspects in which the state is looking to go and handpick different pockets of money that may not have been properly distributed to the individuals that received the government funds that they will go and use to add to their tally to reach whatever predetermined number they decided they needed to reach to talk about how ICE was worse on the state of Minnesota than the fraud was.
- 1:51:43SPEAKER_39: Just you wait and see.
- 1:51:56SPEAKER_39: That is a good one.
- 1:52:01SPEAKER_16: Good morning, John.
- 1:52:04SPEAKER_16: My job in construction, you have to work the required number of hours, say 40 in a week, before you qualify for any kind of overtime.
- 1:52:14SPEAKER_16: You need to physically work.
- 1:52:16SPEAKER_16: So if I use a vacation day or the holiday day, like next week, I would need to work 40 actual hours.
- 1:52:24SPEAKER_16: And the eight hours that I can pay for Labor Day don't count for anything.
- 1:52:28SPEAKER_16: This is pretty standard, at least in my industry.
- 1:52:31SPEAKER_16: It seems to follow here with uh with the DNR.
- 1:52:34SPEAKER_16: Have a good day.
- 1:52:35SPEAKER_39: So the DNR said it did not initiate the review out of the blue.
- 1:52:41SPEAKER_39: The agency said an inquiry from the U.S.
- 1:52:43SPEAKER_39: Department of Labor Veterans Employment and Training Service regarding conservation officers' use of paid military leave toward overtime prompted the payroll audit.
- 1:52:54SPEAKER_39: The DNR then examined the payroll records covering the calendar year of 22 through part of 26, and the agency found that seven officers incorrectly coded their timesheets during the 20 paid periods, and this resulted in the almost$5,000 in overpayments.
- 1:53:10SPEAKER_39: The DNR is treating these as payroll errors and following the established process for recouping overpayments, according to the agency to Alpha News.
- 1:53:20SPEAKER_39: The DNR also said the overtime rules haven't changed recently.
- 1:53:24SPEAKER_39: They're saying the DNR follows the terms and conditions set forth by the Collective Bargaining Unit Agreement between the Minnesota Law Enforcement and the state of Minnesota.
- 1:53:32SPEAKER_39: The U.S.
- 1:53:33SPEAKER_39: Department of Labor has since informed DNR that its case is concluded and its file is being closed according to the agency.
- 1:53:40SPEAKER_39: Let's get back to some more of your thoughts on this on the blaster line at 651-964-0294.
- 1:53:47SPEAKER_39: Again, amid$9 billion in the fraud crisis, you have Minnesota clawing back$5,000 roughly,$4,998 from seven conservation officers for what they believe is uh inappropriate uh overtime uh billing.
- 1:54:04SPEAKER_39: Over 20 weeks, by the way.
- 1:54:06SPEAKER_39: Let's get back to your thoughts.
- 1:54:08SPEAKER_10: Hey, John, um, unfortunately, I gotta completely disagree with you and the other callers on the blaster line.
- 1:54:17SPEAKER_10: Um, you know, stealing is stealing, and I don't care if you're with the police, the American military, or if you're a blue-haired leftist crazy.
- 1:54:25SPEAKER_10: Uh theft is theft.
- 1:54:26SPEAKER_10: And you know what?
- 1:54:27SPEAKER_10: If I have two jobs and I work 75 hours at one job and five hours at the at the other, I don't get to claim overtime as the one you know leader of them just because I've worked 80 hours.
- 1:54:41SPEAKER_10: Like that doesn't work that way.
- 1:54:42SPEAKER_10: And I'm sorry, police gotta adhere by the rules, and if anything, police and military should be more likely to adhere to the rules and more likely to obey the law, not less likely, and they should be held to a further account.
- 1:54:56SPEAKER_10: Thank you.
- 1:54:57SPEAKER_39: I guess the only pushback I don't necessarily agree with the assessment, and I think I've said as much in my commentary so far here on the on the show.
- 1:55:06SPEAKER_39: Uh it's it's it it taking it isolating the issue to what it is, I certainly understand the move here.
- 1:55:13SPEAKER_39: That being said, it does seem like more of a technical error and not something that was done nefariously.
- 1:55:21SPEAKER_39: So I do question whether or not clawing back these this money from these particular individuals is necessary moving forward.
- 1:55:29SPEAKER_39: I tend to agree with you that rules need to be followed.
- 1:55:32SPEAKER_39: You know, and unfortunately, you can't really take this on its own because of everything that we mentioned before.
- 1:55:39SPEAKER_39: I mean, this is the the reason why the peace exists in the first place.
- 1:55:43SPEAKER_39: Is that where you have a lack of interest coming from the Governor Dymwall's administration and Democrats here in the state to go and tackle the fraud, the red flags that went up, the warning signs that were that were willfully ignored.
- 1:55:58SPEAKER_39: And yet in this case, you do see the state going after dollars that amount to a pentance by comparison.
- 1:56:04SPEAKER_39: So it's a difficult situation.
- 1:56:05SPEAKER_39: I don't necessarily disagree with you.
- 1:56:07SPEAKER_39: I think the better solution here would be to re-establish the ground rules, but not ask these conservation officers and members of our military to have to give that money back, just make sure that it's taken care of moving forward.
- 1:56:19SPEAKER_39: What are your thoughts?
- 1:56:20SPEAKER_39: 651-964-0294.
- 1:56:23SPEAKER_39: Text or leave a voice message.
- 1:56:25SPEAKER_31: Hey, good morning, John.
- 1:56:26SPEAKER_31: Can somebody look into the ethnicity of these conservation officers?
- 1:56:30SPEAKER_39: Uh, you know what?
- 1:56:31SPEAKER_39: I'm not even I'm not even interested in in approaching that.
- 1:56:34SPEAKER_39: I just it's it's it's it's irrelevant.
- 1:56:37SPEAKER_39: Uh it's absolutely irrelevant.
- 1:56:39SPEAKER_39: Uh let's uh go back uh to uh this comment from the uh blaster line this morning.
- 1:56:45SPEAKER_13: I work for a major medical device company, and yeah, it's like two or three years ago they changed it.
- 1:56:50SPEAKER_13: You used to be able to work 40 hours, and if like a day of that was a vacation, if you I'm sorry, if you worked over 40 hours and a day of that was a vacation, you still got overtime.
- 1:57:01SPEAKER_13: But they change that too.
- 1:57:02SPEAKER_13: You have to make actual hours work before you can get any overtime.
- 1:57:08SPEAKER_39: Thank you for the comments.
- 1:57:16SPEAKER_33: I would probably give them the same mercy they give people when they're all doing their job because they could be some of the meanest uh by the book people on the planet.
- 1:57:28SPEAKER_33: So I'm just saying give them the same justice they would give me.
- 1:57:34SPEAKER_15: I agree with a lot of the callers.
- 1:57:36SPEAKER_15: This is a technical payroll issue, error, if you will.
- 1:57:40SPEAKER_15: Um I'm sure that the people that are affected, it sucks when people overpay you and they make it right.
- 1:57:46SPEAKER_15: Now that usually is an optional uh move by the employer when they make a mistake like that.
- 1:57:51SPEAKER_15: So it just goes to show they're following the rules, but they're being a little bit over the top on clawing back on their error.
- 1:57:58SPEAKER_15: So have a good one, guys.
- 1:57:59SPEAKER_39: I like the fact there's another aspect of this uh conversation um and more information that's being brought out specifically regarding the DNR and opinions of the of the DNR.
- 1:58:12SPEAKER_39: This was not uh this was not an angle on this that I was anticipating.
- 1:58:15SPEAKER_36: Hey, John, random guy, greater Minnesota, as a southeast Minnesota deer hunter.
- 1:58:21SPEAKER_36: I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for the DNR.
- 1:58:24SPEAKER_36: They tend to be real arrogant, they tend to be way, way over the top with their enforcement.
- 1:58:29SPEAKER_39: Maybe we should listen.
- 1:58:30SPEAKER_39: If that's the case, I'll get back to more of your comments here in just a moment.
- 1:58:32SPEAKER_39: But if that's the case, maybe we need to put them in charge of tackling the fraud.
- 1:58:38SPEAKER_39: Let's make the deal let's put the DNR in charge of dealing with the with the fraudsters.
- 1:58:44SPEAKER_39: Let's see how they would handle the year-over-year increase in Medicaid to taxpayer dollar funding requests coming from these different welfare service providers who are billing the state for the services that they never offered.
- 1:58:59SPEAKER_39: How would the DNR go and handle it?
- 1:59:01SPEAKER_39: If all of this is true.
- 1:59:05SPEAKER_39: The way it's being described just in a few of these comments, they seem more like the Gestapo than ICE ever was via Governor Tim Walls and his commentary about immigrations and customs enforcement as we head into the third hour.
- 1:59:17SPEAKER_39: How did that happen?
- 1:59:18SPEAKER_39: Third hour on a Wednesday here on the John Justice show presented by American Experiment.
- 1:59:22SPEAKER_39: Let's get back to the friend of the show's comments.
- 1:59:24SPEAKER_36: Doing nothing with my fingers, and they just oh man, I missed it.
- 1:59:28SPEAKER_39: Let me back up a little bit on this.
- 1:59:31SPEAKER_36: They tend to be way, way over the top with their enforcement.
- 1:59:35SPEAKER_36: Doing nothing with my fingers, and they they just, I don't think, have a reason to exist.
- 1:59:41SPEAKER_36: They're the only law enforcement on the planet that can walk on your place without reasonable thoughts and start demanding identification and where have you been, what are you doing, with no reason to do so.
- 1:59:55SPEAKER_36: And a lot of them overstep their bounds with local.
- 2:00:00SPEAKER_36: I know they're not all this way, but a lot of them I've dealt with have been arrogant and kind of think that their crap doesn't think.
- 2:00:09SPEAKER_36: And I think what happened here is it was being allowed, even though technically it was against the rules, and now they're mad because they got their hands slapped over it.
- 2:00:21SPEAKER_36: But uh have a good week.
- 2:00:22SPEAKER_36: Thanks.
- 2:00:23SPEAKER_36: Bye.
- 2:00:23SPEAKER_39: Well, and I'll and I'll mention again that I can't help but think that there's renewed scrutiny surrounding anything attached to Operation Metro Surge, and that it's potentially tied directly back to Governor Dimwalls and his truth counsel and this report that they're planning on releasing just weeks before the general election, which I suspect is going to be very, very beneficial to the talking points of those DFL candidates.
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- 2:02:22SPEAKER_39: So this article uh ended up sparking quite a response from the friends of the show this morning.
- 2:02:28SPEAKER_39: Amid$9 billion in fraud cuts, Minnesota claws back roughly$4,000 from conservation officers.
- 2:02:34SPEAKER_39: These were previously referred to as game wardens.
- 2:02:37SPEAKER_39: They're licensed state law enforcement officers who protect public safety but also enforce uh natural uh resource laws.
- 2:02:44SPEAKER_39: They were also a part of Operation uh Metro Surge.
- 2:02:49SPEAKER_39: So, Minnesota Department of Revenue, the DNR, excuse me, natural resources, the DNR, confirmed that it's conducted a payroll audit examining the records from 2022 through 2026 to determine how conservation officers calculated overtime during pay periods in which they used paid military leave.
- 2:03:09SPEAKER_39: The results of the review was$4,998 in overpayments spread across 20 pay periods and seven officers that the state is now looking to claw back.
- 2:03:22SPEAKER_39: A lot of commentary surrounding whether or not the state should be bothering to go after these conservation officers.
- 2:03:27SPEAKER_39: Some of them are members of our military and the National Guard.
- 2:03:30SPEAKER_39: I'm kind of of the opinion that if this was just a simple mistake, that we shouldn't be looking at clawing back this money, but simply making sure that this error doesn't happen in the future.
- 2:03:40SPEAKER_39: But there's individuals with difference of opinions on this.
- 2:03:44SPEAKER_39: On top of all of it, though, the juxtaposition between the DNR going after this paltry amount of money compared to the amount of money that the state has allowed over the same number of years to be stolen from the taxpayers via the$9 billion in fraud.
- 2:03:58SPEAKER_39: Yes, Channel 5, it's$9 billion in fraud.
- 2:04:01SPEAKER_39: A lot of people are having issue with this particular attempt to claw back these dollars from potential members of our military in light of the fraud that's taken place in the state.
- 2:04:10SPEAKER_35: Yeah, I'm probably gonna take a different position than you guys.
- 2:04:13SPEAKER_35: I've never worked a place that you got overtime when you had other time say other leave taken.
- 2:04:24SPEAKER_35: Until your regular time hit the overtime threshold, you didn't get overtime, irregardless of how much leave you took.
- 2:04:32SPEAKER_35: So I guess I'm trying to figure out.
- 2:04:34SPEAKER_35: I mean, yeah, it's kind of crappy when they got better things to look at, but I I guess I don't see the problem here.
- 2:04:40SPEAKER_35: I guess it really depends upon what their contract says.
- 2:04:44SPEAKER_39: I thank you for the comment on the blaster line.
- 2:04:46SPEAKER_39: You can also leave a uh text message.
- 2:04:50SPEAKER_39: Somebody said uh you could keep the same DNR abbreviation.
- 2:04:54SPEAKER_39: It could be the Department of Neighborly Review.
- 2:04:56SPEAKER_39: Oh, okay.
- 2:04:58SPEAKER_39: Uh, let's see.
- 2:04:59SPEAKER_39: Friend of the show, Denny says, My thoughts about the$5,000 is that if we follow the logic that$5,000 of fraud by a Somali person is wrong, then$5,000 of inaccurate income coding should be viewed wrong as well.
- 2:05:12SPEAKER_39: Okay.
- 2:05:13SPEAKER_39: There's a difference of intent here.
- 2:05:16SPEAKER_39: Generally speaking, I tend to agree with you.
- 2:05:20SPEAKER_39: Again, I think the simple fix is make the fix.
- 2:05:22SPEAKER_39: They can't do it moving forward, but you know,$5,000 spread over 20 weeks.
- 2:05:27SPEAKER_39: I I just I take a bit of an issue with trying to get that money, that money back.
- 2:05:32SPEAKER_39: But let's see what more of your thoughts are from the blaster line.
- 2:05:35SPEAKER_24: Hey John, all this talk about the government and uh DNR just got me thinking that uh, you know, in this state we could probably cut 60% of the employees and still run this state probably more efficiently than if we kept them.
- 2:05:53SPEAKER_24: I think there's a lot of room for that.
- 2:05:55SPEAKER_24: Hopefully the next governor will take a look.
- 2:05:58SPEAKER_19: Have a good beef with the carp chops.
- 2:06:03SPEAKER_19: I got a fair shake from them one time when I made a mistake.
- 2:06:08SPEAKER_19: Normally they're pretty hardcore bunch of guys.
- 2:06:11SPEAKER_19: But then again, y'all out there poaching and breaking the game laws are pretty arrogant and think they're above it all, too.
- 2:06:22SPEAKER_11: Hey, they're saying I just uh Tim Wall Jimmy is going after the conservation officers.
- 2:06:31SPEAKER_11: Uh, how much money are they spending doing that instead of something else that's more productive?
- 2:06:38SPEAKER_39: That's how much money did they spend just chasing down this five thousand dollars or you know, hardment dollars total, you know, by you know, so much of this commentary really goes to um underscore the lack of trust that people have in our government, in our media, because these are all uh valid arguments and things that should be brought up and questioned.
- 2:07:06SPEAKER_39: But I also do see what other individuals are saying regarding, you know, the law is the law, you need to follow the the law.
- 2:07:16SPEAKER_39: It is just very difficult when it comes to how this Democrat-led government in Minnesota operates when you see so much uh turning of a blind eye to things that you and I would also say, hey, you should be following the law and you're not following the law.
- 2:07:36SPEAKER_39: It makes issues that typically I would go and take a stance on being cut and dry, and and it and it it muddies the waters.
- 2:07:44SPEAKER_39: Because I see the value in some of the arguments that are being laid out here regarding, yeah, in this case, maybe we don't go and excuse me, hold these guys um accountable.
- 2:07:54SPEAKER_39: All right, let's get back to some more of your thoughts uh this morning from the blaster line.
- 2:07:57SPEAKER_25: I'm really confused now.
- 2:08:00SPEAKER_25: Wouldn't this be a software issue?
- 2:08:03SPEAKER_25: Since when do you actually let employees just click, yeah, I'm supposed to get time and a half for this.
- 2:08:10SPEAKER_25: The employees put it in and this is paid paid military, this is my regular hours.
- 2:08:16SPEAKER_25: And the software calculates whether they deserve time and a half for certain hours or not.
- 2:08:22SPEAKER_25: So I I don't get it.
- 2:08:26SPEAKER_25: We we I think we need a software upgrade.
- 2:08:30SPEAKER_25: This seems just messed up either way.
- 2:08:33SPEAKER_39: Well, to that point, let's go uh here to this uh blast to 651-964-0294.
- 2:08:39SPEAKER_27: Hey, good morning.
- 2:08:40SPEAKER_27: Uh to DNR case, it seems pretty straightforward.
- 2:08:43SPEAKER_27: Were the individual workers coding their ours the way that they were supposed to, the way that their leadership told them and the system was set up wrong?
- 2:08:52SPEAKER_27: Or were they trying to scam the system and inaccurately coding things so that they would get paid a little more?
- 2:08:59SPEAKER_39: No, my understanding it doesn't sound like there was any sort of attempt to be scamming here, and I certainly wouldn't expect that from our conservation officers, you know, members of the National Guard.
- 2:09:09SPEAKER_39: It sounds like it was an honest mistake.
- 2:09:10SPEAKER_39: And when you get into the actual story, let me go ahead.
- 2:09:13SPEAKER_39: Uh, one conservation officer who spoke anonymously called the situation outrageous, saying that officers are being forced to repay money they received under what he says had previously been an accepted payroll practice.
- 2:09:24SPEAKER_39: The officer served in the National Guard, the Minnesota National Guard, while simultaneously working as a conservation officer.
- 2:09:31SPEAKER_39: Despite being an accepted practice, the state has retroactively investigated employees.
- 2:09:36SPEAKER_39: It's simply outrageous that the Minnesota DNR would recoup money it paid to employees for a practice that was previously accepted by the agency.
- 2:09:44SPEAKER_39: And it all comes down to 86 hours.
- 2:09:47SPEAKER_39: The dispute is complicated on paper, but fairly simple in practice.
- 2:09:51SPEAKER_39: Conservation officers generally must accumulate 86 qualifying hours during a two-week pay period before additional hours qualify for overtime.
- 2:10:00SPEAKER_39: The officers who serve in the National Guard or Reserve are also entitled to paid military leave when they have military obligations.
- 2:10:06SPEAKER_39: The question is whether those military leave hours count towards the 86-hour overtime threshold.
- 2:10:12SPEAKER_39: And according to the DNR, they simply uh don't.
- 2:10:16SPEAKER_14: Hey, John, this is Paul from Hiving.
- 2:10:19SPEAKER_14: Um, I just want to point out that the the way the DNR and any state employee, they did, they put all their time on a timesheet.
- 2:10:28SPEAKER_14: And the people that are doing the audit are the same ones that make the determination of whether they get overtime or not.
- 2:10:36SPEAKER_14: They cost code on the timesheet.
- 2:10:38SPEAKER_14: They don't decide what is overtime and what isn't.
- 2:10:41SPEAKER_14: They put their hours down and somebody else pays decides it.
- 2:10:45SPEAKER_14: So they got paid based off of somebody else's decision.
- 2:10:48SPEAKER_14: They had absolutely nothing to do with do with it.
- 2:10:52SPEAKER_14: Thanks.
- 2:10:52SPEAKER_39: All right, let's just grab a few more comments uh on this.
- 2:10:55SPEAKER_39: And again, you can text or leave a voice uh message.
- 2:10:59SPEAKER_39: Um I got a text that came in and said DNR equals department of no results.
- 2:11:05unknown: Okay.
- 2:11:07SPEAKER_39: I agree with other callers.
- 2:11:09SPEAKER_39: Had my snowmobile tabs in my pocket.
- 2:11:11SPEAKER_39: I was too cold to put them on, and they still gave me a ticket because they weren't on the machine.
- 2:11:17SPEAKER_39: Like the DNR doesn't want to play nice with us.
- 2:11:20SPEAKER_39: Okay.
- 2:11:22SPEAKER_39: Of course the DNR went after members of our military on the payroll.
- 2:11:26SPEAKER_39: The rest of the DNR are snot-nosed, nasty, lib uh idiots.
- 2:11:32SPEAKER_39: All right.
- 2:11:33SPEAKER_39: Uh, I want to go to, I had a comment that uh rolled in from an individual who I believe is a member of our uh military.
- 2:11:44SPEAKER_39: I'm trying to find it from here.
- 2:11:46SPEAKER_39: Uh let's go here to this one while I search for the other.
- 2:11:50SPEAKER_02: Regarding the seven um wildlife um management officers that charged overtime over twenty weeks.
- 2:12:00SPEAKER_02: And it was in, I think they said 22, 2022 through now is the audit period.
- 2:12:07SPEAKER_02: So how many people actually coded their time sheets correctly?
- 2:12:11SPEAKER_02: That would be my question, because it could have just been a mistake by the seven.
- 2:12:17SPEAKER_02: But if others were doing it correctly, then maybe it could be fraud.
- 2:12:21SPEAKER_02: But I think for the state to say that this is fraud clawback, I mean, we don't know the intent of the individuals who were um completing their timesheets.
- 2:12:31SPEAKER_39: Yeah, and based off of the reporting from Alpha News, it sounds like um, you know, as I as I mentioned, it sounds like that this was an honest mistake.
- 2:12:40SPEAKER_39: And those that are now being asked to give this money back are the ones that are calling in it into question that this was a practice that was previously allowed.
- 2:12:47SPEAKER_39: All right, let me uh let's go and hear from a member of our military and see what they have to say regarding this issue.
- 2:12:51SPEAKER_09: As a military member, I know what it's like when you ask for time off from your employer.
- 2:12:56SPEAKER_09: You get paid for your drill phase on your weekend drill, and then your employer, sometimes they opt to also pay you while you're at drill.
- 2:13:06SPEAKER_09: They're also getting paid by the state for their military pay for their double dipping.
- 2:13:11SPEAKER_09: So if there's an error, they need to give that money back.
- 2:13:14SPEAKER_09: I think the larger point here is that they're pushing out the story about the DNR, and there's so much other fraud that they could use as an example and focus on, whereas this seems to be somewhat insignificant in a payment, but it's still important that if they are double dipping, they need to give the money back.
- 2:13:35SPEAKER_39: Thank you for the uh comment.
- 2:13:37SPEAKER_39: And remember, you can email as well, john.justice at american experiment.org.
- 2:13:41SPEAKER_39: And I appreciate all of uh the blasts regarding this particular uh issue, and we'll keep you updated.
- 2:13:47SPEAKER_39: There are any uh further updates uh on this as well, but some fantastic insight and a lot of negativity towards the DNR.
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- 2:15:50SPEAKER_44: And when you're when there's money attached to it and you're being told, like, you know, not only do you have to bill for this time now, but you have to bill like this amount of time in order to like keep an organization viable in order to pay employees, then it becomes a whole separate thing.
- 2:16:06SPEAKER_44: And then suddenly, you know, programs and organizations were giving incentives if you bill a hundred hours a month, if you, you know, and there's like maximums for every single person.
- 2:16:18SPEAKER_44: But essentially, organizations wanted you to build a maximum.
- 2:16:20SPEAKER_44: And I understand in a sense, because when it started, that meant that other housing programming like funding was going away.
- 2:16:27SPEAKER_44: So then you were supposed to like replace it.
- 2:16:29SPEAKER_44: Replace it, yes, with the HSS stuff.
- 2:16:31SPEAKER_44: So I get it.
- 2:16:32SPEAKER_44: Like as an org, like you just had to, if you needed to pay your employees, they had to bill a certain amount of time.
- 2:16:37SPEAKER_44: But of course, we know what that leads to, you know, fabrication of hours and all that kind of stuff.
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- 2:17:12SPEAKER_44: Because the barrier to entry was so low for HSS, like literally, you fill out some paperwork and you pay, I can't remember what it was, like 700 bucks or something like that.
- 2:17:21SPEAKER_44: They ask zero questions about your background, like nothing.
- 2:17:23SPEAKER_44: I think if you're serving actual people, like if you're like a you have to do a background check, but not if you're just like starting it or like doing admin stuff.
- 2:17:30SPEAKER_44: Okay.
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- 2:20:10SPEAKER_39: A study by the financial website Smart Asset.
- 2:20:16SPEAKER_39: Gotta make sure you say that home.
- 2:20:18SPEAKER_39: Smart Asset.
- 2:20:20SPEAKER_39: Found that Minnesota's largest county led America in receiving federal taxpayer money.
- 2:20:27SPEAKER_39: Hennepin County in Minnesota received the most federal spending of any county in Minnesota and the U.S.
- 2:20:34SPEAKER_39: overall in the past year and a half.
- 2:20:39SPEAKER_39: Bill Glon asks us in the piece, and I'll go through more of it.
- 2:20:42SPEAKER_39: But if you live in Hennepin County, are you seeing any of that?
- 2:20:48SPEAKER_39: You would think that the county could actually go and pay for all the broken windows from the juvenile vandals that are randomly going and smashing the windows out.
- 2:20:58SPEAKER_39: There were more of those overnight, by the way.
- 2:21:00SPEAKER_39: You had some 87 last week, you had more than a 100 over the weekend, and then Minneapolis or Crime Watch Minneapolis was posting overnight more, you know, surveillance footage, door door camera footage essentially, of these juveniles walking by with these handheld window breakers just randomly shattering windows.
- 2:21:24SPEAKER_39: So you would think that Hennepin County receiving the most federal spending of any county in Minnesota or the U.S.
- 2:21:31SPEAKER_39: overall could afford to go and fix all those windows?
- 2:21:33SPEAKER_39: Kind of pushes back on Governor Dim Walls' claim about Minnesota not receiving the federal funding like other states does.
- 2:21:40SPEAKER_39: Of course, he never mentions that we don't have a military installation here, which is a big reason why our federal funding is lower, except in the case of Hennepin County.
- 2:21:50SPEAKER_39: For total federal dollars, Hennepin County saw more than$286 billion in federal spending committed to it during the 18-month period examined.
- 2:22:02SPEAKER_39: That is the most of any county nationally and accounts for about 4.7% of the roughly six trillion tracked in the study.
- 2:22:12SPEAKER_39: Hennepin County hosts less than 0.4% of America's total population.
- 2:22:18SPEAKER_39: To receive 4.7% of federal spending, that represents 12 times the expected result.
- 2:22:28SPEAKER_39: And this is where Bill Glaun here at American Experiment asks for those readers who live in the county, do you feel like you're seeing anything for the cash?
- 2:22:38SPEAKER_39: Now the story mentions a big military contract for a company in Plymouth, but nearly all of the money is tied up in a single category.
- 2:22:46SPEAKER_39: The Center Square quoted the author's study.
- 2:22:49SPEAKER_39: The largest portion came through direct assistance, which totaled about$282.8 billion.
- 2:22:59SPEAKER_39: HHS also has the largest awarding agency for that spending.
- 2:23:05SPEAKER_39: The direct assistance figure was largely driven by Medicare spending, though he cautioned that the data does not necessarily mean the amount was spent directly on Hennepin County residents.
- 2:23:17SPEAKER_39: Now immediately, you know, the question comes to mind uh that funding coming in, if if it's largely driven by Medicare spending, how much of that ended up being fraudulent?
- 2:23:32SPEAKER_39: I mean, it just when you hear Medicaid, Medicare spending, Medicaid spending, it it's an automatic, you just have to go and ask the question.
- 2:23:41SPEAKER_39: How much of this ended up being fraud?
- 2:23:44SPEAKER_39: Let's go ask uh the uh owners of the uh quality learning center, shall we?
- 2:23:52SPEAKER_39: Okay, so again, that doesn't necessarily mean that the amount was spent directly on Hennepin County residents.
- 2:23:57SPEAKER_39: Instead, the spending appears to be concentrated in Hennepin County because the federal data associates the place of performance for Medicare with an insurer's or contractor's headquarters rather than beneficiaries uh live uh where they live or receive care.
- 2:24:14SPEAKER_39: Now, the study mentions by name the Healthcare Behemoth United Healthcare Group, or UNH.
- 2:24:21SPEAKER_39: UNH does a considerable amount of business serving both Medicaid and Medicare programs for the feds.
- 2:24:27SPEAKER_39: But the study covered more than just payment payments to vendors.
- 2:24:31SPEAKER_39: It accounted for federal funds committed to activity, which included government contracts, procurement, grants, benefits, and assisted assistance payments.
- 2:24:43SPEAKER_39: The total does not represent money paid directly to county governments, but federal spending in the county.
- 2:24:50SPEAKER_39: But$283 billion out of$286 billion in a single category.
- 2:24:57SPEAKER_39: In investigative journalism, Bill Glon says, we would call that a red flag.
- 2:25:02SPEAKER_39: Yep, yeah, yeah, yeah, you think?
- 2:25:06SPEAKER_39: Little little little tiny bit.
- 2:25:10SPEAKER_24: Hey John, um, I'm a pretty sympathetic person.
- 2:25:13SPEAKER_24: I have zero and repeat zero sympathy for these residents of Minneapolis.
- 2:25:19SPEAKER_24: They have overwhelmingly voted for this.
- 2:25:24SPEAKER_24: These kids run wild.
- 2:25:26SPEAKER_24: We don't fund the police department, and this is the result.
- 2:25:30SPEAKER_24: So they can swim in it as far as I'm concerned.
- 2:25:33SPEAKER_24: Have a great day.
- 2:25:35SPEAKER_39: Thank you uh for that.
- 2:25:39SPEAKER_39: If you want to leave a uh comment, uh 651-964-02 uh 94.
- 2:25:45SPEAKER_39: That's the new blaster line.
- 2:25:46SPEAKER_39: You can also email john.justice at americanexperiment.org.
- 2:25:50SPEAKER_39: And I've talked about this before.
- 2:25:51SPEAKER_39: I am um I feel I don't feel the same way regarding the sentiment of that individual.
- 2:25:57SPEAKER_39: I certainly understand where it stems from.
- 2:25:59SPEAKER_39: I think there is a reality in it, but there's also a reality of a lot of good people that didn't vote for this in Minneapolis.
- 2:26:05SPEAKER_39: And also a level of concern that everybody in Minnesota, regardless of where you live, should have, because it's important that we do have a thriving Minneapolis and Hennepin County, one that isn't filled with fraud.
- 2:26:18SPEAKER_39: Yes, I know it's difficult when you have these same Yahoos that keep getting elected into office over and over again.
- 2:26:25SPEAKER_39: And we've talked about the role that ranked choice voting plays in that.
- 2:26:28SPEAKER_39: We've talked about how few people are involved in the elections because a lot of people have just given up.
- 2:26:32SPEAKER_39: But there are a lot of people within Hennepin County that simply cannot move, unfortunately.
- 2:26:37SPEAKER_39: They just don't have the means to.
- 2:26:38SPEAKER_39: And it's tragic that they have to go and deal with all of this.
- 2:26:42SPEAKER_39: So, what did all this spending give us, by the way?
- 2:26:44SPEAKER_39: So the question raised, as Bill Glaund did, of the potential of fraud taking place.
- 2:26:49SPEAKER_39: But let's see, I made a little list here.
- 2:26:51SPEAKER_39: So with that, um, Hennepin County leads the USA in federal spending.
- 2:26:54SPEAKER_39: Um, we have uh let's oh, we have the rope, the uh the red rope discrimination taking place where you got to post your your uh your dress code outside your businesses.
- 2:27:04SPEAKER_39: That'll help the situation.
- 2:27:05SPEAKER_39: That's good use of the money, right?
- 2:27:06SPEAKER_39: Sense the sarcasm.
- 2:27:08SPEAKER_39: Oh, we have uh the parking lots for those individuals who are homeless but have automobiles where they could go and and park for for free.
- 2:27:15SPEAKER_39: Oh, we've legalized bathhouses so people can have sex in public places.
- 2:27:20SPEAKER_39: Okay.
- 2:27:20SPEAKER_39: And then as I mentioned before, we have more car windows destroyed overnight as well.
- 2:27:25SPEAKER_39: So that's just a little bit of what the money has has done has done for the city of Minneapolis.
- 2:27:32SPEAKER_39: So all right, let's go here.
- 2:27:36SPEAKER_39: Talked a lot about Operation Metro Surge.
- 2:27:38SPEAKER_39: I want to give you a bit of an update about what's been going on.
- 2:27:40SPEAKER_39: ICE officers and agents have arrested roughly 50,000 people in August.
- 2:27:47SPEAKER_39: This is according to the preliminary data extending a nationwide immigration enforcement surge that has kept arrests at record levels for the third consecutive month.
- 2:27:56SPEAKER_39: I'm gonna continue to hammer this point.
- 2:27:59SPEAKER_39: You're only hearing about this on this show.
- 2:28:03SPEAKER_39: A little bit of smattering of commentary in some of our local media outlets.
- 2:28:07SPEAKER_39: This article here is from Newsmax.
- 2:28:09SPEAKER_39: But what are you not hearing about?
- 2:28:10SPEAKER_39: You're not hearing about anybody in the streets or on the street or communities being terrorized.
- 2:28:16SPEAKER_39: You're not healing hearing commentary of people being ripped from their homes, or the way that it's described by those on the left of people being kidnapped, ripping apart, destroying communities.
- 2:28:29SPEAKER_39: Because it's not happening.
- 2:28:31SPEAKER_39: We never had to endure the months of chaos and ridiculous, embarrassing national news coverage that we had to endure.
- 2:28:40SPEAKER_39: That did provide me the opportunity to talk to national media outlets quite a few times over it.
- 2:28:44SPEAKER_39: It was never, it was never necessary.
- 2:28:47SPEAKER_39: It was completely avoidable.
- 2:28:50SPEAKER_39: A senior Department of Homeland Security official, familiar with the preliminary data, said that ICE made about 50,000 arrests during August.
- 2:28:58SPEAKER_39: The sustained pace comes as the Homeland Security Secretary, Mark Wayne Mullen, pursues President Donald Trump's deportation goals while relying on lower profile enforcement strategies than his predecessor, Christy Gnome.
- 2:29:11SPEAKER_39: Mullen, who took over DHS in March, pledged to keep the department out of the headlines while continuing the administration's immigration enforcement push.
- 2:29:19SPEAKER_39: So there has been a concerted effort by the federal government to not create any sort of problems like they did before, but make no mistake, those problems would be there if you had Democrats that were actively pushing individuals to take to the streets to get in the way of lawful law enforcement.
- 2:29:32SPEAKER_39: And it hasn't been happening.
- 2:29:34SPEAKER_39: The groups that were funding some of the on-the-street agitators, and I don't know, either they don't have the money anymore or they decided to go and spend it elsewhere.
- 2:29:42SPEAKER_39: I'm convinced that because this was a visual bonus for the left at the time, and something that the DFL here in the state of Minnesota continues to try to exploit for political electoral gains come November.
- 2:29:59SPEAKER_39: I'm convinced that you're not seeing that type of activity now because the left knows that at the time it was a positive for the leftists.
- 2:30:08SPEAKER_39: Right now, if they were to do it, it wouldn't be.
- 2:30:11SPEAKER_39: The headlines would be dominated by this.
- 2:30:13SPEAKER_39: And the country would see it at a time when we are heading towards an election and we still have this issue of immigration where a majority of people want to see individuals held accountable for their actions.
- 2:30:25SPEAKER_39: Despite what the left says about immigration, that still is the overarching view of the public.
- 2:30:32SPEAKER_39: And if they encourage the same sort of ridiculous on-the-street insurrectionist activity that they did at the end of last year and the beginning of this year, it would be counterproductive to the Democrats' efforts to retake power in DC.
- 2:30:45SPEAKER_39: Under Mullen, ICE has increasingly made arrests through less visible operations, including airports, immigration courthouses, ICE check-ins, while expanding cooperation with state and local law enforcement.
- 2:30:55SPEAKER_39: And to my point, I know the article wants to say that there's been tactics used by the federal government in order to keep the ICE operations out of the headlines, but we know that didn't stop any of the on-the-street insurrectionists, especially going to the airport.
- 2:31:08SPEAKER_39: I mean, we had a whole group of individuals protesting at MSP when this was going on.
- 2:31:12SPEAKER_39: There's a Yahoo that still goes and monitors the outgoing deportation flights to put that information out there.
- 2:31:20SPEAKER_39: He's not doing anything other than saying that's an airplane filled with illegal aliens that are being deported from the country, their country of origin.
- 2:31:26SPEAKER_39: That's all that it is.
- 2:31:28SPEAKER_39: It's being done to help perpetuate Operation Metro Surge to try to help the candidates on the left here in Minnesota.
- 2:31:35SPEAKER_39: But to my point, it's not bringing about any sort of on-the-street insurrectionist activity anymore.
- 2:31:41SPEAKER_39: And the majority of these ICE operations are going completely unnoticed, apart from me going and sharing the information with you or national news stories coming out of Newsmax.
- 2:31:51SPEAKER_39: By the way, that 50,000 number, when you compare to the 49,571 in July, which was the previous highest total.
- 2:32:00SPEAKER_39: So now August even surpassed that.
- 2:32:03SPEAKER_39: We had more arrests and deportations of illegal aliens than we did during Operation Metro Surge in July and August.
- 2:32:11SPEAKER_39: And you didn't hear anything about it, just like you didn't hear anything about it during the four years that President Joe Biden was in office.
- 2:32:17SPEAKER_39: When more people were deported and arrested who were here illegally during that time period when Biden was in office, than also what happened during Operation Metro surge, but you didn't hear a lick about it from Governor Dimwalls, Thief Ellison, Petty Flanagan, or any of the rest of them.
- 2:32:35SPEAKER_39: Now the surge has been aided by greater cooperation between ICE and state local authorities through the federal 280c uh 287G program, which allows participating law enforcement agencies to perform certain immigration enforcement functions under ICE supervision.
- 2:32:53SPEAKER_39: And that's the other point that I wanted to make on this is that this shows you what happens when you have positive collaboration between state and local officials.
- 2:33:02SPEAKER_39: The exact opposite of what the Governor Dim Walls administration did during Operation Metro Surge, also under Attorney General Thief Ellison, who cut all ties with our local law enforcement officers and our federal law enforcement agents, which may have cost people lives, as we were, as we heard from the former disgraced police chief Brian O'Hara in Minneapolis in a recent interview.
- 2:33:26SPEAKER_39: He talked about how Minneapolis man, baby, mayor, mom, Jeans, Jacob Fry had ordered Minneapolis police to leave the area, leading to the altercation between the immigrations and customs enforcement agents and Renee Good, wherein she ultimately lost her life for getting in the way of lawful law enforcement.
- 2:33:46SPEAKER_39: By the way, those partnerships accounted for about 6,500 arrests in July, or 13% of the monthly total compared with 5% last year.
- 2:33:57SPEAKER_39: Wow.
- 2:34:00SPEAKER_39: It's like everything that I, you know, said in the previous iteration of the show was true.
- 2:34:04SPEAKER_39: What other commentators said as well.
- 2:34:06SPEAKER_39: Funny how that uh funny how that happens.
- 2:34:10SPEAKER_39: All right.
- 2:34:13SPEAKER_39: Let's switch over to this.
- 2:34:15SPEAKER_39: Planned Parenthood.
- 2:34:17SPEAKER_39: I've been sitting on the story for a bit.
- 2:34:19SPEAKER_39: But there's a couple of stories that I want to get to regarding uh one, the uh gender identity issue.
- 2:34:26SPEAKER_39: There's a new bill that's working its way through Congress that would sort of add clarity when it comes to the issue of gender identity.
- 2:34:37SPEAKER_39: It's called the uh Chloe Cole Act, aims to hold medical providers accountable for irreversible treatments performed on minors.
- 2:34:45SPEAKER_39: I want to give you details on this in a moment, but first off, let me go here.
- 2:34:50SPEAKER_39: A month after the Supreme Court overruled Roe versus Wade, Planned Parenthood issued a memo to the state's attorneys general, urging them at the time to target crisis pregnancy centers and issue abortion-friendly legal opinions.
- 2:35:09SPEAKER_39: The memo called for actions such as providing information about crisis pregnancy centers, curbing their practices, and utilizing state laws to protect abortion facilities.
- 2:35:23SPEAKER_39: Several Democrat attorneys general followed the plan, issuing consumer alerts, subpoenas, and legal opinions on abortion rights.
- 2:35:34SPEAKER_39: So I find listen, there's there's a number of different levels where I find this incredibly fascinating.
- 2:35:40SPEAKER_39: First off, you're talking about the targeting of crisis pregnancy centers.
- 2:35:44SPEAKER_39: These are simply centers offering pregnant women an alternative to getting an abortion.
- 2:35:51SPEAKER_39: That's all that it is.
- 2:35:54SPEAKER_39: A woman would have to voluntarily walk through the doors of a crisis pregnancy center where she could go and receive information on alternatives relating to any sort of difficulties that she may be facing because she made a choice to engage in sexual activities and got pregnant.
- 2:36:14SPEAKER_39: Nothing nefarious about it.
- 2:36:17SPEAKER_39: Listen, it's an outreach program.
- 2:36:20SPEAKER_39: But this tells you how vindictive and evil the Planned Parenthood and the pro-abortion crowd is.
- 2:36:28SPEAKER_39: Wherein, in the wake of a Supreme Court ruling that overturns Roe v.
- 2:36:32SPEAKER_39: Wade, that simply sent the issue back to the states to decide which is the way that it should have been, that was a bridge too far for this organization that suddenly did everything they could to make sure that any competition that they had to providing the option of women to go and murder their babies ended up facing criticism, trying to stop them from occurring.
- 2:37:02SPEAKER_39: We know the protests that have taken place outside these pregnancy centers.
- 2:37:06SPEAKER_39: On top of the editorials that were written, the memo claimed that pro-life crisis pregnancy centers, which provide care, food, clothing, and shelter to expecting mothers while trying to steer them away from abortion from abortion, are promoting misinformation.
- 2:37:23SPEAKER_39: Yeah, it's funny in the wake of the story that we talked about yesterday and today of the uh the art taking place at the Minnesota State Fair, the Crop Art, showing the 8647.
- 2:37:37SPEAKER_39: And you had bring me the news and the Star Tribune saying that this was doxing of this individual, even though Tamara Sawyer's name was attached to the art, and all you had to do was Google it, and all the information was right there.
- 2:37:50SPEAKER_39: It's hardly doxing.
- 2:37:51SPEAKER_39: And yet, what was Planned Parenthood asking State's Attorneys General to do?
- 2:37:57SPEAKER_39: Provide information about crisis centers.
- 2:37:59SPEAKER_39: Is that not doxing?
- 2:38:00SPEAKER_39: Just wanted to throw that in there.
- 2:38:03SPEAKER_39: So regarding the information aspect of what they were claiming, provide information to the public about the CPCs, crisis pregnancy centers, and take steps to curb their misleading and deceptive practices.
- 2:38:15SPEAKER_39: For example, California issued a consumer alert, the Planned Parenthood memo says, referring to California.
- 2:38:23SPEAKER_39: It also called for attorneys general to ask the FTC to target misinformation perpetuated by crisis pregnancy centers regarding medication abortion.
- 2:38:33SPEAKER_39: And add in the commentary that I had earlier in the show in the second hour, if you missed it, check out the podcast, relating to that crop art in the 8647, wherein this woman said that she received threats in the wake of her art.
- 2:38:48SPEAKER_39: Now, nobody should have to receive threats over this.
- 2:38:50SPEAKER_39: I'm not advocating for that.
- 2:38:52SPEAKER_39: I just find it incredibly ironic.
- 2:38:53SPEAKER_39: The individual who ended up creating crop art, saying 8647, which was clearly a direct threat against the president of the United States, complete with red beans to make it look like it was bleeding to add to the threat level, then complained about actually receiving threats after she went and issued her own.
- 2:39:10SPEAKER_39: On the left, they want all the freedoms that the United States Constitution and the United States has to offer without any of the accountability.
- 2:39:18SPEAKER_39: And at the same time, they want to limit those freedoms to anybody that they believe is in opposition to their ideology and a threat to them.
- 2:39:26SPEAKER_39: And this Planned Parenthood pressing states attorneys general to act against crisis pregnancy centers is exactly that.
- 2:39:36SPEAKER_39: By the way, a month after issuing this memo, Minnesota Attorney General Thief Ellison issued a consumer alert about crisis pregnancy centers because he said pregnant people should have accurate information.
- 2:39:52SPEAKER_39: Then you gotta know.
- 2:39:53SPEAKER_39: You gotta know how to kill all those babies.
- 2:39:55SPEAKER_39: Just telling you.
- 2:39:58SPEAKER_39: Planned Parenthood called the memo for uh for the strategy to be applied at the state level.
- 2:40:02SPEAKER_39: States should utilize all state laws, including face acts, to protect healthcare facilities that provide abortion.
- 2:40:09SPEAKER_39: Can you imagine the crisis pregnancy centers going and releasing a memo asking to do the same thing that the Planned Parenthood was asking the attorneys general to do against the crisis pregnancy centers, but had it go the other way?
- 2:40:24SPEAKER_39: I have an interesting story that kind of leads into a very, very similar leftist mindset, keeping with the theme.
- 2:40:30SPEAKER_39: I'll get to that here in just a moment.
- 2:40:33SPEAKER_39: Eight days after the memo was released, there was a partnership that was revealed with the U.S.
- 2:40:39SPEAKER_39: Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of New Jersey, with guidance issued to state prosecutors for enforcing clinic access laws.
- 2:40:48SPEAKER_39: The memo further stated that attorneys general could use opinions to clarify legal questions on abortion, such as guidance explicitly asserting consent to abortion rights for minors.
- 2:40:59SPEAKER_39: According to the Center for American Progress, state attorneys general in California, Connecticut, Arizona, New Jersey, New York, and Pennsylvania issued guidance on the legality of abortion and the status of medication abortion.
- 2:41:13SPEAKER_39: Planned Parenthood also called for states to coordinate legal representation for women, abortionists, and auxiliaries such as abortion funds in Arizona and California, New Jersey, New York.
- 2:41:24SPEAKER_39: They had tasks force uh tax task forces for this very purpose.
- 2:41:31SPEAKER_39: And again, it's all activism.
- 2:41:33SPEAKER_39: That's all that it was.
- 2:41:35SPEAKER_39: It's a racket.
- 2:41:37SPEAKER_39: It's a racket to bring in funding, to bring in support, and to push the progressive agenda.
- 2:41:43SPEAKER_39: Anyone that is seen in opposition to the progressive agenda, and in this case, Planned Parenthood and their own progressive agenda, the left worked it to undermine them every single step of the way.
- 2:41:56SPEAKER_39: It doesn't get and just to back up to my initial commentary on this, it really doesn't get much more evil than that.
- 2:42:05SPEAKER_39: To try to push forward on a full court press utilizing state's attorneys general against pregnancy crisis clinics.
- 2:42:15SPEAKER_39: Outreach clinics women can voluntarily go to to simply provide information dealing with a pregnancy that perhaps they didn't want.
- 2:42:27SPEAKER_39: But it's a bridge too far for an organization that makes a living and banks on keeping abortions as high as humanly possible here across the country.
- 2:42:37SPEAKER_39: It's disgusting.
- 2:42:39SPEAKER_39: And it's evil.
- 2:42:40SPEAKER_39: It's straight up evil.
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- 2:42:58SPEAKER_39: I want to give you some details on this clean vote moving through Congress to try to settle the gender identity issue, at least provide clarity for states in terms of federal uh guidance.
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- 2:45:17SPEAKER_39: So I want to set the stage on this.
- 2:45:18SPEAKER_39: There's an editorial.
- 2:45:19SPEAKER_39: I mentioned this earlier in the week, and I want to dive into it.
- 2:45:22SPEAKER_39: Um, it's out of the Minnesota reformer, David M.
- 2:45:26SPEAKER_39: Perry.
- 2:45:26SPEAKER_39: Oh, excuse me, I'm sorry.
- 2:45:27SPEAKER_39: This is out of the Star Tribune.
- 2:45:29SPEAKER_39: David M.
- 2:45:29SPEAKER_39: Perry.
- 2:45:30SPEAKER_39: Republicans fought to indoctrination.
- 2:45:32SPEAKER_39: Now they're telling students what to study.
- 2:45:35SPEAKER_39: The conservative attack on higher education, he writes, in states like Iowa is hard to watch, but it also provides an opportunity for blue states like Minnesota.
- 2:45:47SPEAKER_39: So, what happens when Republicans try to level the ideological playing field of the critical race theory indoctrination taking place in schools?
- 2:45:58SPEAKER_39: It's framed as an attack by those on the left.
- 2:46:01SPEAKER_39: This sticks with the theme that I presented earlier.
- 2:46:04SPEAKER_39: On the left, they want all the freedoms that the United States and the Constitution has to offer without any of the responsibility or accountability for it, while also framing or denying the same for those on the right.
- 2:46:18SPEAKER_39: So let me set the table on this.
- 2:46:20SPEAKER_39: First off, I want to talk about the Chloe Cole Act.
- 2:46:23SPEAKER_39: This was introduced by U.S.
- 2:46:24SPEAKER_39: Representative Bob Onder, aims to hold medical providers accountable for irreversible treatments performed on minors.
- 2:46:34SPEAKER_39: The bill would allow patients and families to sue providers for prescribing puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, and performing sex-rejecting surgeries on minors.
- 2:46:46SPEAKER_39: The legislation comes as institutions like the World Professional Association on Transgender Health face scrutiny over claims about the medical necessity and insurance coverage.
- 2:46:55SPEAKER_39: And this falls into the same category.
- 2:46:57SPEAKER_39: We have more and more data showing the dangers of what happens to those that are underage that are given these drugs relating to their gender identity to change the nature of their body physically.
- 2:47:10SPEAKER_39: Those underage that are receiving surgeries, this provides a pathway, an opportunity for parents and others to push back.
- 2:47:18SPEAKER_39: Sue providers for prescribing these when they shouldn't have.
- 2:47:22SPEAKER_39: Common sense versus crazy is the defining feature of today's politics.
- 2:47:28SPEAKER_39: As we've been talking about on immigration, the choices between enforcing the law and tolerating policies that burden the U.S.
- 2:47:35SPEAKER_39: workers and communities.
- 2:47:36SPEAKER_39: On elections, the Save America Act has exposed the same divide.
- 2:47:39SPEAKER_39: More than 80% of Americans support voter ID, yet Democrats continue to resist the basic election integrity safeguards.
- 2:47:46SPEAKER_39: Do lawmakers recognize biological realities and protect children from irreversible treatment?
- 2:47:51SPEAKER_39: Or do they protect the establishment that branded the dissent dangerous?
- 2:47:56SPEAKER_39: That's what this bill looks to push back on.
- 2:48:00SPEAKER_39: It essentially goes and levels the playing field, as I was mentioning.
- 2:48:03SPEAKER_39: For years, gender medicine and the establishment told vulnerable children that puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, and surgeries could align their bodies with their internal identity.
- 2:48:13SPEAKER_39: Too often, institutions presented those interventions with more certainty than the evidence justified.
- 2:48:20SPEAKER_39: And this is where U.S.
- 2:48:21SPEAKER_39: Representative Ander wants Congress to answer that problem.
- 2:48:25SPEAKER_39: HR 7551, the Chloe Cole Act, targets providers where accountability is most likely to be felt with civil liability.
- 2:48:34SPEAKER_39: It would create a federal cause of action allowing patients and families to sue medical providers that prescribe puberty blockers or cross-sex hormones or performed sex-rejecting surgery on minors.
- 2:48:45SPEAKER_39: The Chloe Cole Bill's namesake is a detransitioner and activist who says that she was pushed towards irreversible treatment without clear informed consent.
- 2:48:56SPEAKER_39: Her own malpractice case has made her one of the most prominent critics of the pediatric gender medicine.
- 2:49:02SPEAKER_39: The legislation also arrives as institutions that once claim broad consensus are facing harder and harder scrutiny.
- 2:49:09SPEAKER_39: The Trump administration filed a complaint with the FTC against the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, challenging claims about the medical necessity for the insurance coverage.
- 2:49:19SPEAKER_39: Now, the legislation is basically asking Congress to say something extraordinarily simple.
- 2:49:26SPEAKER_39: Men serve as men, men, and women serve as women.
- 2:49:30SPEAKER_39: Any Democrat who voted on the amendment went on the record uh against it.
- 2:49:36SPEAKER_39: It's a victory for the left, in as much as they have been successful in pushing this radical anti-societal norm, anti-nature ideology requiring legislation like this brings about what should have been common sense all along.
- 2:49:56SPEAKER_39: But of course, this is labeled as being too extreme, too over the top.
- 2:50:01SPEAKER_39: An attack by conservatives on the LGBTQ community.
- 2:50:05SPEAKER_39: It's a tactic that the left uses all the time.
- 2:50:11SPEAKER_39: Now, with that, okay, follow me here.
- 2:50:13SPEAKER_39: I want to set the table on this.
- 2:50:15SPEAKER_39: Okay.
- 2:50:17SPEAKER_39: For this um Star Tribune article that I mentioned a moment ago.
- 2:50:20SPEAKER_39: And with that, let me just present to you a few stories as my example when I go and rip apart this particular editorial.
- 2:50:27SPEAKER_39: So from Alpha News, there was this story that came out a few days ago.
- 2:50:30SPEAKER_39: Local education advocates, right, posting on social media about the books at a branch of the Hennepin County library system had recently gone viral because the person that posted on social media called out the library for stocking their shelves with titles from DEI obsessed publishers.
- 2:50:53SPEAKER_39: Christine Troyan, the founder of the Minnesota Partnership for Achievement and the Minnesota Parents Alliance, says she recently visited Hennepin County Library with her 11-year-old and found a trove of agenda-driven books aimed at young readers.
- 2:51:06SPEAKER_39: In a thread on X, Troyan said the books her and her child found to the library included LGBT characters and activism, traumatic childhood experiences, no nuclear families, mental health problems, and parents as villains.
- 2:51:20SPEAKER_39: One of the books that Troyan highlighted in her post was an LGBT themed book called Family Week, which bore a sticker categorizing it under children's fiction.
- 2:51:30SPEAKER_39: That book is about a vacation that's kind of like a gay Christmas, according to the cover, where gay families gather in a small town.
- 2:51:38SPEAKER_39: And she goes through and lists the rest of the uh books in question available here.
- 2:51:46SPEAKER_39: Now, Alpha News contacted Hennepin County for the story, was asked about the collection of books.
- 2:51:50SPEAKER_39: A spokesperson for the county said everything on the shelves in Hennepin County Libraries is shaped by the library's collection development policy and aligned with the library board policy endorsing the freedom to read and the library bill of rights.
- 2:52:04SPEAKER_39: Now, without getting into whether or not these books should be at the library, again, I'm I want to bring about a point.
- 2:52:10SPEAKER_39: This is the type of indoctrination and left-wing material that is abundantly available to the youth here in Minnesota and across the country, right?
- 2:52:19SPEAKER_39: This is just an example of that.
- 2:52:21SPEAKER_39: You're gonna find a lot more of these left-wing LGBTQ-friendly books targeted to minors than you are anything espousing any level of conservatism within, you know, not just our public libraries, but also the public education system as well.
- 2:52:37SPEAKER_39: Okay.
- 2:52:38SPEAKER_39: So that's example number one.
- 2:52:39SPEAKER_39: Let me give you example number two.
- 2:52:42SPEAKER_39: Example number two is the University of Minnesota received a$600,000 grant to test whether anti-racist parenting reduces racial bias in white kids.
- 2:52:58SPEAKER_39: The University of Minnesota,$600,000 grant, whether an online anti-racist parenting program for white mothers can reduce racial bias in children ages five to eight.
- 2:53:14SPEAKER_39: Children ages five to eight year olds that don't know anything about race relations or racism unless they are taught it by their parents or the people and the children around them.
- 2:53:26SPEAKER_39: The Carpe DM study, led by Dr.
- 2:53:28SPEAKER_39: Gail Ferguson, aims to understand effective ways to support white parents in anti-racist parenting.
- 2:53:34SPEAKER_39: The university emphasizes the research's independent nature and scientific merit.
- 2:53:40SPEAKER_39: Okay?
- 2:53:40SPEAKER_39: So that's their second example.
- 2:53:42SPEAKER_39: I have one more.
- 2:53:43SPEAKER_39: The third example would be an update on the therapeutic interchangeable genitalia, transgender dolls.
- 2:53:52SPEAKER_39: The University of Minnesota was hit with a third federal investigation this past Friday into a project involving the therapeutic dolls with interchangeable genitalia for gender-confused children as young as four years old.
- 2:54:09SPEAKER_39: Representative Tim Wahlberg, chair of the House Education and Workforce Committee, announced the investigation on Friday into the My Gender Dolls, citing reporting by the College Fix and others.
- 2:54:20SPEAKER_39: In the letter addressed to the university's Institute for Sexual and Gender Health, Wahlberg demanded information to determine if taxpayers directly or indirectly funded the project.
- 2:54:31SPEAKER_39: Okay.
- 2:54:32SPEAKER_39: So why do I bring all this up?
- 2:54:34SPEAKER_39: I bring all this up because it serves as the example, not that you needed it, because you're a smart audience, but it serves as the example of the indoctrination that takes place within our grade school, university, and also our public government-funded libraries, which makes this editorial in the Minnesota Star Tribune from David M.
- 2:54:55SPEAKER_39: Perry all the more ridiculous.
- 2:54:59SPEAKER_39: So this is what he wrote.
- 2:55:01SPEAKER_39: In 2025, Iowa Republicans passed a state law requiring the University of Iowa to create a new Center for Intellectual Freedom.
- 2:55:12SPEAKER_39: Students, they argued, were being oppressed by all that diversity, equity, and inclusion, and surely would be clamoring for such freedom.
- 2:55:22SPEAKER_39: I hope you're beginning to see why I brought up all those other stories a moment ago.
- 2:55:27SPEAKER_39: Because all those other stories a moment ago are exactly why the Center for Intellectual Freedom exists.
- 2:55:33SPEAKER_39: It doesn't mean freedom in terms of the students' choices of courses and things like that.
- 2:55:39SPEAKER_39: It means freedom in terms of hearing all sides of the argument and debate, not just the standard left wing ideology that is embedded and has infected our education system, has infected and been embedded even within our own government institutions, regardless of who the president is sitting at the White House.
- 2:56:00SPEAKER_39: I just gave you all the examples of that.
- 2:56:02SPEAKER_39: This is typical leftist commentary.
- 2:56:05SPEAKER_39: Because basically, what David Amperry does here is he assigns his own premise and baseline argument.
- 2:56:10SPEAKER_39: In this case, he took freedom and assigned its own definition.
- 2:56:14SPEAKER_39: Freedom had nothing to do with the specific required curriculum.
- 2:56:18SPEAKER_39: In this case, it was the freedom to hear all the different sides, not just the Marxist, commie, socialist, leftist views.
- 2:56:24SPEAKER_39: You see, he goes on to say taxpayer money poured in.
- 2:56:29SPEAKER_39: It poured right out again, including a huge speaking fee to conservative influencer Christopher Rufo, who indirectly helped bring ICE to Minnesota.
- 2:56:38SPEAKER_39: So already he starts to go and undermine David M.
- 2:56:41SPEAKER_39: Perry does his own editorial by adding in elements that have nothing to do with his commentary, just to bring about a reaction from the reader.
- 2:56:50SPEAKER_39: Oh, they helped bring ice to Minnesota.
- 2:56:52SPEAKER_39: He must be really, really bad.
- 2:56:57SPEAKER_39: It was at an estimated$87,000 inaugural event last December, which didn't pour what uh didn't pour in was students, he says, although he doesn't provide any examples of that.
- 2:57:08SPEAKER_39: Again, he gave no examples of students not attending.
- 2:57:10SPEAKER_39: And the speaking feed and event costs are kind of irrelevant and not exclusive to any viewpoint or political party.
- 2:57:22SPEAKER_39: Now he goes on to write, but don't worry, now Iowa Republicans have passed new legislation requiring all UI students to attend courses with lectures on keen topics like why capitalism rocks and the midterm election of 1994, the Republican Revolution, and the contract with America.
- 2:57:42SPEAKER_39: In other words, in Iowa, this freedom is now mandatory.
- 2:57:46SPEAKER_39: Again, he created his own definition of the terminology relating to freedom.
- 2:57:51SPEAKER_39: And what he doesn't mention in here is how many required courses are UI students required, how many courses are UI students required to take that are entrenched in liberal, progressive, Marxist, therefore communist ideologies?
- 2:58:12SPEAKER_39: You see, this is what happens when Republicans try to level the playing field.
- 2:58:16SPEAKER_39: And in this case, the ideological playing field.
- 2:58:19SPEAKER_39: It's labeled as an attack.
- 2:58:21SPEAKER_39: The left wants to have all of the freedoms associated with them the United States has to offer, but they don't want it for the opposition.
- 2:58:29SPEAKER_39: If Republicans or conservatives go and do it, oh, they're attacking, this is horrible and awful, forcing students to hear this right wing rhetoric without even seeing that he's exposing their own left-wing bias with every single punch of the key on the keyboard when he wrote this article, assuming he didn't use artificial intelligence.
- 2:58:51SPEAKER_39: Then you get three paragraphs of nothing pertaining to his original premise.
- 2:58:56SPEAKER_39: He talks about uh it's time for those of us who care about higher education in this country to take advantage of the states governed by Republicans and the assault on public colleges that they're inflicting.
- 2:59:08SPEAKER_39: Talks about Democrat states who haven't done a good enough job pushing back on it.
- 2:59:12SPEAKER_39: Then he gets to this right-wing attacks on higher education aren't new.
- 2:59:18SPEAKER_39: Listen, the fact that he called it a right-wing attack is hysterical.
- 2:59:23SPEAKER_39: If this is a right wing attack, then these students attending, in this case, the University of Iowa, have been dealing with an onslaught of radical leftists this entire time.
- 2:59:36SPEAKER_39: Of course, he ignores all of that.
- 2:59:38SPEAKER_39: In his mind, all of the teaching that takes place outside of what the Republicans are proposing is completely legitimate, totally fine, and should be required, even though it's all left-leaning.
- 2:59:52SPEAKER_39: He says they're not new, these attacks by right wingers, but they have uh but they have not only intensified, they've gotten smarter, attacking curriculum requirements, course content, and accreditation.
- 3:00:03SPEAKER_39: For example, Florida recently declared an introductory sociology class ineligible for core curriculum credit, meaning that Governor DeSantis and his cronies can claim they aren't censoring anyone while removing the incentive for students to study a discipline that teaches about structural inequality and how to address it.
- 3:00:24SPEAKER_39: Totally fine and acceptable.
- 3:00:26SPEAKER_39: Every student should have to take that.
- 3:00:29SPEAKER_39: Because you're required to take the leftist-only skewed classes.
- 3:00:36SPEAKER_39: After years of whining about meritocracy, Republican governments are pouring tax dollars into hiring mostly mediocre conservative academics in states all around the country.
- 3:00:47SPEAKER_39: Can't have those pesky conservatives teaching the kids.
- 3:00:50SPEAKER_39: Then in some cases, like Iowa, they're making courses mandatory when students don't want to go.
- 3:00:54SPEAKER_39: In Texas, worst of all, professors as syllabi are being scrutinized for teaching students forbidden content on race, gender, sexuality, and other topics that frighten Republicans.
- 3:01:05SPEAKER_39: Seems to me he seems pretty frightened about the curriculum that Republicans are proposing.
- 3:01:12SPEAKER_39: Then he says this I call Dominique Baker, an associate professor of education and policy at the University of Delaware, because she's been writing about the shape and stakes for American higher education.
- 3:01:21SPEAKER_39: And I asked her about how she understood this red state vision for higher ed.
- 3:01:28SPEAKER_39: She said that while there's always been attacks around the edges, things are worse now.
- 3:01:34SPEAKER_39: Oh, those pesky Republicans getting in the way of the indoctrination that our uh our leftists yield.
- 3:01:42SPEAKER_39: Texas, for example, she writes, was the first state to offer in-state tuition to undocumented immigrants, but state officials and the Trump administration combined efforts to kill that policy.
- 3:01:52SPEAKER_39: Oh, the mean and evil Trump administration for not allowing illegal aliens access to in-state tuition dollars.
- 3:02:00SPEAKER_39: They don't say this with a hint of irony, by the way.
- 3:02:05SPEAKER_39: I know.
- 3:02:06SPEAKER_39: I'm really sarcastic here at the end of the show, but it's needed.
- 3:02:10SPEAKER_39: It's the double standard.
- 3:02:14SPEAKER_39: Let me wrap up what they had to say in this piece as we begin to close out uh today's show.
- 3:02:18SPEAKER_39: As the new amic uh academic year begins, writes David M.
- 3:02:21SPEAKER_39: Perry, and as I welcome students, both new and returning, here's what I see the stakes are.
- 3:02:27SPEAKER_39: In Minnesota and other states like us have a choice to compete for students both within our borders and across them.
- 3:02:34SPEAKER_39: College students don't like what Republican lawmakers are selling when it comes to college.
- 3:02:38SPEAKER_39: I promise you, students want real educators and real educations, rather than be forced to listen to a CEO that tells them that capitalism rocks.
- 3:02:48SPEAKER_39: No, they would much rather hear from a leftist communist professor to tell them that eventually they will all be able to live a mediocre lifestyle.
- 3:02:59SPEAKER_39: They won't be receiving any money, but anything they get will be from the government.
- 3:03:02SPEAKER_39: They'll give them entertainment, food on the table, a place to live.
- 3:03:06SPEAKER_39: They won't have any entertainment choices.
- 3:03:08SPEAKER_39: They won't have a choice of where they live.
- 3:03:09SPEAKER_39: They won't have a choice of what they eat on the table, but that's okay.
- 3:03:12SPEAKER_39: Whatever they put out for the totalitarian government of communists that have taken over the country, they will get in return via the services that the totalitarian government will provide for them based off of just how productive they are.
- 3:03:27SPEAKER_39: So, according to dolts like this, they would much rather have the students hearing from those communist professors rather than anybody who is espousing free market principles.
- 3:03:37SPEAKER_39: It's perfectly okay to spend money and require students to learn the critical race theory infected liberal agenda-driven curriculum.
- 3:03:45SPEAKER_39: But if you're on the right and you counter it with your own requirements, then you're evil and you're simply attacking.
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