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  One. Hi everyone, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. I am your
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  host, Alison and with me is Brian, and today we are going to
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  be covering misogyny is a hate crime, and of course, as always women
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  most affected. You see, misogyny is now going to be a hate crime,
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  or at least as being recommended to become a hate crime. But of
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  course women are most affected by this change because as women are always most affected
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  All right. So, what this is is apparently a proposal by the Green
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  Party of the UK to make misogyny misogyn nore Yeah, actually, which brand
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  of misogyny? All the brands of misogyny or I think all yeah, yeah,
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  misogyny like misogyny, like cherry flavored misogyny, red misogyny, blue misogyny.
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  Yeah, earth, air, fire, and water. We should we
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  should let them maybe they can tell us. Yeah, because I'm here to
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  be educated. Yeah, so am I I wish to be educated? All
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  right, Well, let's take a look. This is from the Channel four
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  news. Yep, this is from the Isn't this the things open your brands?
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  You know? Put the feeding tube into your lobes. Get ready,
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  we're gonna learn. We're gonna learn how awful we are. All right,
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  I'm gonna hit play. It's a short clip. But okay, well,
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  you're right to ask the question. This is such a serious issue and the
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  continuing abuse, harassment and worse of women and girls in this country is an
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  absolute stain on our society. The Green Party would make it a priority to
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  end domestic abuse and violence against women and girls. We want to free up
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  police time to ensure that they can focus on those issues, and we would
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  make sure that police are trained to deal with domestic violence because too often we
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  hear reports of women who have brought these cases to the police and have not
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  been taken seriously. So that's the absolute top line for me. We would
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  also and this has been a long running Green Party campaign for a few years
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  setting up by our former Deputy leader Amelia Womack, is to make misogyny a
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  hate crime. It's amazing that it isn't already. I think that would help
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  the police and our justice system to take it seriously. And finally, we
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  would develop and implement a new UK wide strategy to tackle rape, sexual abuse,
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  FGM and trafficking. But to undermine, just briefly, just in all
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  of this, we need proper accountability so that women can regain trust in the
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  police force because too many incidents in recent years police officers have been part of
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  the problem. Okay, all right, so this is the UK obviously,
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  unless they are reptilians in orbit speaking with UK accents. Could both could be
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  both? Yeah, okay, there has been a problem in Britain when it
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  comes to I can just hear the guy who spurs out about Britain, UK
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  Scotland in the using England's the UK or Britain. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Relax guys, Okay, relax, well, we'll try to get it
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  right, all right, the United Kingdom, except I do not think that
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  this initiative goes under Scottish law because of the vertical Scotland has their own anti
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  misogogy laws, so it's almost yes at this point. Technically, I don't
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  want people to think that I'm saying that this also applies to Scotland. Okay,
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  I'm just saying Britain because I'm pretty sure this applies to Britain. So
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  don't come down on me about about your weird ass laws. Okay. In
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  Britain, there is a problem with sexual assault prosecutions, and the problem has
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  been that police have failed to deliver exculpatory evidence to the defense. What that
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  means is they have evidence of innocence and they are not offering it to defend
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  defense attorneys who are who are representing a man accused of sexual assault, and
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  they've had multiple cases overturned and had to basically be thrown out because of this
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  problem. So the only systemic problem that we really know about in terms of
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  sexual assault prosecutions and most likely domestic violence is sort of lumped in with that,
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  is that the system is making it easier to convict men falsely. Right,
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  that that's the problem that the UK justice system has been dealing with in
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  terms of sexual assault. The British justice system gets they can think that over
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  seventy five percent conviction rate for sexual assault and I think it's even going up
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  higher to about eighty five percent. That is almost double what the conviction rate
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  for any other violent crime. So what the hell is she even talking about,
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  Like, what is an acceptable conviction rate for sexual assault? If it's
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  double every other violent crime, is that not acceptable? And if you're if
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  the system has provably has a against men accused of sexual assault to the point
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  to the tune of framing them by removing or forgetting or losing exculpatory and as
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  evidence of innocence, how can you assert this? How can this woman assert
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  this this is this is patently fall out your right. Well, I think
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  it's a political move, of course it is. So let me give my
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  let me give my perspective on this to add to what you're saying. So
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  this is like a yes, a yes. And so obviously people like this
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  woman, Carla Dnier, wants to get the female vote. And if you
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  just observe what works to get the female vote, it basically comes down to,
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  you know, fear mongering women into voting for your party so you'll stop
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  them feeling uncomfortable. So, yes, it's true everything you said about sexual
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  assault and domestic violence, which again she uses as like a talking point,
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  And this is probably a holdover from you know, the feminist literature on domestic
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  violence being a uniquely one way street. And that's useful because it's what everybody
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  repeats at nauseum. But then there's like, okay, making misogyny illegal.
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  So misogyny yes, So I think I know, I think I know what
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  that means. And this is what I think this is going to bring into
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  bear my my way of looking at this whole, looking at intersectionality. Okay,
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  so what constitutes misogyny? While we looked at the laws that they were
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  trying to pass what they had passed in in you know, in Nottingham and
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  such, where cat calling and wolf whistling could get you busted. Where essentially
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  making women feel uncomfortable following them, i e. Walking the same direction as
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  they are walking, but like behind them. These are all considered grounds for
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  essentially calling the police on these men. And what I think is happening here
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  is actually interesting because that the I'm just gonna say, the UK. Okay,
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  So, the UK has has recently been inundated with migrants from Africa,
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  from the Middle East, et cetera. I think mostly from Africa, and
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  a lot of migrants, like millions per year, and a lot of these
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  migrants are men, economic migrants that are coming here, and they are cultural
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  differences between you know, Africa, the Sudan and London. And what I
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  think is happening is that women are probably experiencing like you know, non English
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  men hitting on them. I'm not suggesting there's anything like necessarily violent, but
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  but you will run into problems with Muslim men and African men hitting on women.
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  And these these women that want to appear progressive and tolerant, they don't
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  want to address it as an immigration problem. So instead they address it as
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  a man problem. And so that's what they're doing. They're saying, we're
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  having a problem misogyny, we're having a problem with cat calling, We're having
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  a problem with men, you know, approaching women on the street in public
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  and making them feel uncomfortable. But what originally happening is is that there are
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  English women that are being made uncomfortable by foreign men, and they don't want
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  to appear racists, so instead they just say this is a male problem.
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  That's what I think is happening. And this Green Party person that's running is
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  treading, is walking this line because it's okay to generalize men. It's just
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  not okay to generalize brown men or black men, right, So instead she
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  just generalizes men, and she makes it a thing across the board, and
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  this is it allows her, I think it allows her plausible deniability. Well,
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  I didn't know that there was like a disproportionate number of Muslim men or
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  African men that were doing this. I thought it was just a man problem.
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  And of course even Muslim women and African women will agree, they'll be
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  like, oh, yeah, it is Hotly, men are the worst because
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  this is okay. So when you create this slanted, this slanted way of
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  looking at the way people interact, where some identity politics is completely promoted and
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  some is completely ignored, then you will end up in a situation like this.
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  And I think that's what she's doing. I think that what she wants
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  to say is we have a problem with black guys in this country, but
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  she can't, so she just says we have a problem with guys. That's
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  what I think. Actually, I would bet on that. I would bet
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  on that because remember they went from knife crime to spoon crime. I think.
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  But they don't want to address it because again, you know, this
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  way, this progressive way of like talking about things, essentially it operates under
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  not telling the truth because you just don't want to be seen as a bad
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  person. So but it's but you're not a bad person if you demonize men
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  as a group. If we allow that these issues are as big a problem
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  as she's saying they are, which the other the other well, that's another
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  factor. The other confounding factor is that have you noticed that this is a
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  never ending The beast is never full, The tiger always must feed on a
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  new evil thing that men do it's always got to be some new way of
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  controlling men's behavior. Well, yeah, I mean they probably are exaggerating the
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  numbers on top of that, to be fair, But I think that when
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  it comes to what the way that we measure women's discomfort, it's always like,
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  you know, like it's always a big problem, right, no matter
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  how much it's like when when if one of these people ever gotten up and
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  said, yeah, actually, women are fine? Yeah, yeah, could
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  you could you even imagine that? I think that would be like the sign
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  of the apocalypse. No, I'll probably be the sign of the reversal of
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  the apocalypse. You just just imagine one of these women, one of these
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  these advocates going up there and saying, actually, you know, women are
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  okay, they're doing pretty good. You know, maybe we should maybe we
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  should check in on the men. Never yeah, that will never happen.
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  And yet they are the ones who supposedly are for equality. I mean,
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  before before the mass migration, Uh, there wasn't as much of this discussion
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  or rhetoric around you know, women's discomfort. I mean, I can't even
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  call it. It's it's it's a fear. I think it's a bit irrational,
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  but I don't even know that that's fair. I would rather just say
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  discomfort. Like essentially, there are men in their country that give them the
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  ick and that should be illegal. That's really what it is, right,
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  But they can't they can't say that it's like these men who have a different
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  culture, of different language, whatever. It's got to be all men,
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  because like if, I don't want to be seen as racist, but you
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  can't be sexist against men. So yeah, But you know what's interesting is
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  when you go into the comments, they're they're all making it about the trans
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  question. Yeah, of course, of course. Yeah, like here,
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  let's show it on the screen first top comment, or at least the first
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  one. No, just stop calling men women? What? Yeah, exactly,
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  So this the Greens have proposed this anti misogyny law. Women most affected.
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  Yeah, yeah, it's like, okay, here is the issue.
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  In order to successfully promote the narrative that sex roles throughout history, we're a
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  result of oppression, rather than the dictates of biology and the various qualities that
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  men versus women have, feminists had to propose the idea that there is no
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  sex. Let's just put it right out there, there is no sex.
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  Sex is arbitrary. Sex is basically just the skin that you wear in a
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  game, nothing more. There's nothing, there's nothing, there's no there there
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  when it comes to men or women. That's the only way they can really
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  logically assert that throughout history women staying at home was actually oppression of women rather
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  than a direct result of the biology that women have. Right. You know
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  that women were given or took or established the world because I don't like we're
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  given, because that sort of takes the agency away from women, and I
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  don't think we should. They established themselves in such a way that they could
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  take care of young children, be productive within their communities, and not face,
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  not necessarily face things that they weren't physically capable of dealing with. Right,
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  And we can't look at the we can't look at history in those terms
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  and then ask ourselves, Okay, so when men have this particular so called
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  empowerment in law, is it because they're empowered in law or because that means
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  they are responsible for women due to this? Like, when they are given
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  this ability to do something, are they expected to use it just for themselves
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  or use it for the benefit of women? And you will find that wherever
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  women have freedoms supposedly relative to women. They have obligations to use the benefits
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  of those freedoms for the benefit of the women in their family and generally in
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  the community when you're looking at more civic minded cultures. Right, So this
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  is and we can't look at this. When you look at history through a
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  biological lens, it becomes very apparent why things were arranged the way they were
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  the end. So you cannot have a narrative of patriarchal oppression historical patriarchal oppression
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  of women without denying gender sexual sex sex differences, and without saying that sex
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  is essentially cosmetic, cultural, socialized. Right, So one or the other,
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  friends, because this is this is the find This is the this is
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  the end stop on the train. This is the end stop on the Uh.
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  There is no biology. It's only social oppression. It's only arbitrarily done
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  by men. Though it's always done by men. So that doesn't seem like
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  why that that itself since it's so connected to men, Is it not a
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  biology? But never mind, it's only arbitrary, it's only it's only a
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  social construct, and therefore it can be seen as oppression rather than an outgrowth
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  of biology. So you got a choice here. You can either continue to
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  embrace the feminist narrative that men oppress women. It's not biology, it's men,
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  or you can get rid of it and recognize that there are significant biological
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  differences between men and women and those things need to be recognized one or the
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  other. Good luck with that. I mean, you're seriously good luck,
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  because that's a lot to give up. And the funny thing is, you
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  see this, you go down and misogyny, the whole word misogyny is was
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  within that construct of men oppressing women, right, it's within that construct that
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  men hate women, men think women are inferior. And it's all just it's
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  all all of it is just arbitrarily chosen. It's just just in fultuated.
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  It's just socialized. It isn't it isn't just a recognition of biology. It
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  is actually just men deciding to one day step up and control all of socialization
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  of all the children and do all of this and and socialize women into giving
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  birth. That's what men did, Yeah, they did. And and so
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  the misogyny is within that kind of ballpark of feminist thought of male oppression of
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  women. Right at the same time, as they're saying, well this,
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  you know some of them, some of the people in the comments are saying,
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  well you mean trans women. Of course they don't just mean trans women,
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  because biological women will always trump biological men in this in this framework,
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  allowing biological biological men to sometimes trump biological women, to the women who are
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  part of this framework, is a acceptable negative, an acceptable cost to be
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  able to continue to trump biological men. Do you see what I'm saying.
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  So, the fact that their narrative is leading to a situation where trans women
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  can sometimes trump biological women is an acceptable cost to ideological feminists to continue to
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  be able to use the oppression narrative against men. And then there's some women,
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  some feminist women, who are like, no, we should be able
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  to continue to use the oppression narrative without the negatives, get rid of the
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  trans women. I'm like, well, nope, that's your that's the end
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  goal, that's the end of stop there you go. This is this is
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  the ultimate consequence of what you did. Congratulations, Like, you can't.
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  You cannot put the water back in the bucket. It just it doesn't go.
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  It doesn't go back in the bucket. Now we are here, at
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  the end game of what you started when you proposed that human society isn't a
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  result, isn't a reasonable negotiation between the gender roles and people's desire to participate
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  in society. It isn't a reasonable negotiation. It's actually oppression of women by
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  men. This is what you started. Yeah, and uh and again I
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  find it hilarious that men are once again in the back burner. So we
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  are going to make women's feelings towards men a jailable offense. This is what
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  this is. This is Uh. If women have sort of a negative feeling
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  because of something you did, you go to jail. Really really it seems
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  that way. Okay, Like this is this is ridiculous and uh and again
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  we are we are now at women's negative feelings towards men in public existing in
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  the same space as men, and we are advocating for dealing with that problem.
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  When are we going to be dealing with male victims of sexual assault and
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  domestic violence? Are they ever going to be Are they? Do they even
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  exist? In this woman's mind? Good? Good? But on the plus
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  side, though, I must say, on the plus side, a lot
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  of the replies to this are pretty good. In my opinion. I mean,
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  obviously, like the government's going to government. Politician's got a politician,
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  right, they're going to like they they have to make a voting block.
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  Man like if there's so much power in creating a voting block, and women
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  seem to be the most effective use of that tactic. So if you just
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  okay, so we got this one, okay, fine, but then we
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  got uh to find it very clearly criticism of females does not hate. If
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  you look, you'll find there's much more missionry than there is misogyny. And
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  it's something else that's great is that a lot more people are using the word
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  miss indry. We want to free up police time. Twenty five seconds later,
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  make misogyny a hate crime, so obviously making fun of that, mystery
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  example says, make miss injury a hate crime. You either care about hate
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  speech or you don't. Obviously we don't. I think the idea of hate
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  crime in general is terrible. Phil Mitchell, who's been a guest on the
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  show, says, and as usual, there is absolute silence on mis injury.
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  So myss injury is being used a lot more when I started doing this.
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  But yeah, when I started doing this with you guys, nobody had
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  heard of this word, Like, I mean, it was, it was
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  out there, but only in the men's sphere, and now it's all over
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  Twitter. Go on, now say make miss injury a hate crime and see
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  what happens. So you see most up voted are really about the trans woman
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  issue. Yeah, I suppose how does she define women? Three and ninety
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  five votes, three fifty one can you sort this? If she wants to
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  keep wilming girls saying she'd be limiting mass migration, there's a huge connection between
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  these two things. Well, that's what you see. I brought that up.
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  That's what I said. Mass migration is what she wants to address,
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  but she doesn't want to say that. And this is the thing, like
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  like you'll be so be so concerned with offending people that you'll just let everything
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  just go to shit. And like it starts with being able to call out
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  women and you make it like where you can't do that, and things just
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  keep getting worse, and Somebody's like, you know, we could probably look
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  at we could probably stop blaming men, because that's all we seem to like
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  lean on. You know, Well, imagine imagine if you were attempting to
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  build something right, And you have two people who are who are building this
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  thing, or supposedly building this thing. Yeah, one person has to be
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  periodically inspected and made sure to make sure that he's actually doing his work,
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  and the other person just gets endless excuses, endless excuses for failures, inabilities,
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  and having those failures and inabilities or even outright malicious sabotage blamed on the
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  first person. So the one person has to take all responsibility, the second
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  person has to take none. And now you've made them the foreman or the
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  fore woman. What the hell do you think is gonna happen? Like,
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  that's gonna be an utter disaster. And the more we can the more we
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  cannot take expect women to take responsibility, the more of a disaster this becomes.
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  The more the more power you hand people who will not be held responsible,
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  the more of a disaster everything becomes. And I can tell you that
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  we're not allowed to hold women responsible because I can feel as I say that
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  those words, the social pressure to not say them. You know what I
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  mean. It's like we have an entire philosophy that regards holding women accountable to
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  be a moral wrong. Think about that we can't hold single women an account
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  single mothers accountable for their choices. We can't hold women accountable for society,
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  the society that they benefit from, you know, like the whole thing about
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  going to war. Of course, the constant argument is, well, men
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  are the ones who wage war. They're the ones who send people to war.
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  It's like or send men to wars. Therefore women shouldn't have to be
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  involved in it. But you benefit from the society that is constructed as an
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  aspect of warfare, not just in a literal sense that that war shapes the
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  social system, and it has throughout all of human history. There hasn't been
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  a time there hasn't been war that has established winners and losers, with women
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  in the winning side, right, getting the resources from the groups that lost,
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  you know. But also war is a place where technology has happened.
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  I mean, it's an incredibly it's a blood it's definitely a blood cost.
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  But technology moves forward, words leaps and bounds in war. They're all kinds
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  of technologies that we enjoy today that wouldn't exist without World War II and World
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  War One. And they won't like women will not take responsibility for having enjoyed
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  the fruits of all of that, the fruits of war. Right, all
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  men send men to war, well, but female rulers send send men to
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  war as much as male rulers. It's not men sending men to war.
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  It's society's warring over resources. War has always been a part of human society.
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  If we were ever to get rid of it, it would probably be
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  by getting rid of male expendability, let's be honest. But until we do
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  that, everybody who enjoys the benefits of a society that won, who enjoys
• 27:51
  who promotes ignoring men's issues, is culpable in creating the social framework for war.
• 28:03
  Like when you have all these narratives explaining why women or men are oh
• 28:11
  women because they're so violent, because they're so they've constructed a society for their
• 28:15
  own benefit at the expense of women. When you construct these criminalizing narratives,
• 28:18
  you are constructing male expendability. And guess what, If you're constructing male expendability,
• 28:23
  you're constructing the means by which war occurs. So yeah, all of
• 28:30
  you women who say, oh, we're not part of you are part of
• 28:32
  the war machine. And you do you do owe something to the society that
• 28:40
  has given you a living let's face it, and nobody can talk about this.
• 28:44
  Nobody can talk about women's responsibility. It is kryptonite, you know,
• 28:48
  like it is absolutely Even red pillars can't talk about it. Early. They
• 28:53
  really struggle with it, you know, they will go back to, oh,
• 28:57
  it's women's nature. They can't do anything better. It's like, well,
• 29:02
  yes, that's giving you an excuse. That's making an excuse. You
• 29:04
  don't think you're making you are making an excuse, right, That is an
• 29:08
  excuse, right, And this is what's gotten us here is excuses for women.
• 29:15
  Feminism is an entire excuse system for women. And then red pillars just
• 29:19
  just build on that by making even more excuses for women. Stop excusing women
• 29:26
  and stop pretending like we're going to have anything worth having when you increase the
• 29:32
  excuses and also the power, because this law represents, this proposed law represents
• 29:37
  an additional power granted to women over men, all right, And in a
• 29:41
  world where we make only excuses, we can't say to women, actually know
• 29:45
  you're responsible for those emotions. Those emotions should not start a judicial process against
• 29:51
  anyone. Okay, I'll get off, yeah, okay, yeah, well
• 30:00
  I mean that's i don't know if that's I don't know if there's anything else
• 30:03
  about to say this. Yeah, so well we could we could do some
• 30:11
  well, we could do some manifestel. No, god, okay, yeah,
• 30:15
  I guess we could. Yeah, no, or or what what were
• 30:18
  you going to propose? Well? I don't see any super chows, so
• 30:23
  I guess people are are. It's a lazy Wednesday. Everyone's quiet, they
• 30:32
  don't want to think very hard. Perhaps, yeah, maybe, I mean
• 30:37
  they're they're in there, they're talking, they're talking. Okay, because I
• 30:41
  actually think that we could because uh, one of our patrons, Richard again
• 30:48
  requested some Manifestel stuff, and I think that it does it is actually applicable
• 30:52
  to this misogyny a hate crime thing, because misogyny, in many cases is
• 30:57
  holding women upon the period they'll give you. Notice that how consistent it is
• 31:03
  with men actually saying no, you did something wrong somehow becomes misogyny, Like
• 31:10
  this is the word that is most often employed for women to evade accountability and
• 31:17
  responsibility. Is misogyny? Why wrong? Like? Is there another word that's
• 31:22
  even more useful? No? No, okay, I think I think it's
• 31:27
  a extreally powerful word. Yeah, all right, Honestly, I think if
• 31:33
  we're going to do this, I think we should just go with the clips
• 31:37
  that we got. Okay, are you able to access those time codes?
• 31:41
  If not, I can take a look really quick. Well, you know,
• 31:44
  if you can tell me that the time codes of the clips, because
• 31:48
  the way that Riverside displays in the window, it doesn't quite look right on
• 31:56
  on obs. I'll not explain it. But I don't use a full monitor
• 32:01
  because I don't have enough retail. I don't have enough space to like look
• 32:06
  at the chat and the discord and you know, the video and the OBS
• 32:10
  and the vertical obs at the same time. So I have to like make
• 32:15
  the windows a little smaller in that we're that we're responding to. But when
• 32:19
  you make the window a little smaller in Riverside, it does it looks janky
• 32:23
  as shit. So if you can just tell me when in the video and
• 32:29
  what you know, if you look at it in Riverside and tell me the
• 32:30
  timecode, I can just jump to that point. Unfortunately, it's not really
• 32:34
  giving me a timecode. If you oh, yeah, because you're looking at
• 32:38
  the you're looking at something else. Let me see how it looks when I
• 32:42
  when I put it in the orside. We just see how we'll see how
• 32:45
  it looks. Perhaps it will allow you to show things properly. M Maybe
• 32:52
  let me see God was a woman according to manifestel mm so we would look
• 33:00
  at the magic clip. So there's one called Jezebel's warning rejecting male god worship
• 33:07
  in Abrahamic religion. Okay, sure, yeah, all right, yeah,
• 33:13
  so let me show you what I mean. So this is how it displays.
• 33:16
  So the video is going to be very small. It's going to be
• 33:19
  like over here in this in the on the right side. You see that.
• 33:22
  You'll be able to hear it, but you won't be able to see
• 33:27
  it very well. That's fine, you want to see, No, we
• 33:30
  don't. We don't have to. We don't have to hear it, all
• 33:36
  right, So let's I think that. Okay, let's just play what she's
• 33:40
  going to say about this mm hm. And so when the eradication of female
• 33:45
  goddess worship, the story of Jezebel serves as a warning for women who dare
• 33:51
  to reject the male god worship of Abrahamic religion. Like the way they write
• 33:55
  about and paint about her demise, like they really made it so extra and
• 34:00
  it's to scare us women so we don't defy them like Jezebel did. And
• 34:06
  Jezebel's story is alive and well today, almost as a way of saying,
• 34:08
  see, this is what will happen to you if you don't follow the rules,
• 34:12
  You're gonna end up just like her. So much so that Jezebel has
• 34:15
  become a slur towards women, a synonym for horror and all kinds of women's
• 34:21
  behavior. Through the centuries, the name Jezebel came to be associated with false
• 34:24
  prophets. By the early twentieth century, it was also associated with fallen or
• 34:29
  abandoned women and Christian lore. A comparison to Jezebel suggested that a person was
• 34:34
  a pagan or an appostate masquerading as a servant of past state. It's a
• 34:40
  pas state. Okay, so this is a whole bunch of garbage. But
• 34:47
  you'll notice that Jezebel is basically presented as a form of misogyny and what let's
• 34:55
  let's just go through Jezebel's actual story. I'll send you have it up.
• 35:00
  I can, yeah, I know something about it so well. Jezebel is
• 35:06
  here. Yeah. Just okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
• 35:09
  Copy. I think it's really important to understand who Jezebel is when we look
• 35:14
  at this kind of Oh, calling a woman a Jezebel is misogyny, It's
• 35:22
  it's just trying to control women. Well, yes, it is trying to
• 35:24
  control women. Do you think we are not incapable of being evil? Like,
• 35:32
  I mean, it's supposed to be a cautionary it's funny like Manifestel is
• 35:37
  like everything wrong with women, like like I'm serious, like like she just
• 35:42
  embraces all the bad stuff. There's nothing like never like and I'm talking about
• 35:47
  female behavior and male behavior, Like she sees only the worst in men and
• 35:52
  she celebrates the worst in women. You know, all right? Should I
• 35:55
  read this? So? Jezebel died a forty three BCE was the wife of
• 36:02
  King Ahab, who ruled the Kingdom of Israel. By interfering with the exclusive
• 36:07
  worship of the Hebrew god Yahweh, by disregarding the rights of the common people,
• 36:14
  and by defying the great prophets Elijah and Elisha, she provoked the intercene
• 36:20
  interness strife that enfeebled Israel for decades, she became just come to be known
• 36:25
  as an archetype of the wicked woman. Okay, what's wrong with that?
• 36:31
  Like the things that she did justify her condemnation, Like people, she didn't
• 36:39
  just walk down the street and was like, oh, I'm going to give
• 36:44
  the poor alms for the poor. I'm going to clothe the lepers. And
• 36:49
  then a bunch of you know, like asshole male priests just marched down the
• 36:52
  street and like, oh, woman, we're gonna call you at Jezebel for
• 36:57
  no reason and throw you off a parpet and the dogs eat you. That's
• 37:00
  not what happened. Her actions as a ruler were appalling, like they offended.
• 37:10
  And I mean, yeah, some of it is like a religious from
• 37:14
  a particular religious angle. Sure, but she she actually was persecuting commoners like
• 37:21
  she was engaging in theft. She wasn't. She was a terrible ruler,
• 37:25
  right, She her actions earned her her condemnation. And she and and Manifestel
• 37:38
  is defending Jezebel. And she's not the first one. She's not the first
• 37:42
  feminist or whatever she is. I don't know if she's a feminist. You
• 37:45
  have to sort of be a human to be a feminist. But you know,
• 37:50
  she wasn't the first person to say that Jezebel deserves you know, like,
• 37:55
  oh, she was unfairly persecuted. No, she wasn't. She wasn't
• 38:00
  unfairly persecuted. She was likely a demonstration of yes, female leadership, fearmale
• 38:07
  tyranny in leadership, and the condemnation of the religion of these people, the
• 38:15
  persecution of the religion of these people. Right now, Like I said,
• 38:21
  her behavior justifies her treatment. I think women really struggle with this. Your
• 38:29
  behavior justifies your treatment, right, not just your behavior in threatening the universal
• 38:38
  women's access to resources from men, but your behavior, your virtue or your
• 38:45
  lack of virtue, your abusiveness, your rapiness, your grapiness. Right,
• 38:51
  how you treat men in terms of verbal, physical sexual abuse justifies you know,
• 38:59
  you should go to jail. I mean, sure, verbal abuse is
• 39:04
  sort of a gray area, but definitely there are certain aspects of physical abuse
• 39:07
  that women get away with, and they shouldn't because their behavior should determine how
• 39:13
  they are treated. Like this, you have a choice in how you behave
• 39:19
  like that. That's the funny thing. It's like, we make so many
• 39:22
  excuses for women's behavior, and yet behavior is so far downstream from thoughts and
• 39:28
  words, and yet we make far fewer excuses for men's thoughts and words,
• 39:34
  like what's objectification but a thought crime? Like we basically attempt to accuse men
• 39:42
  and make them responsible for thought crimes for their own thoughts and then their words,
• 39:46
  which is downstream of their thoughts or even their emotions. We start with
• 39:52
  their emotions certain emotions men aren't allowed to feel. Then we go to their
• 39:55
  thoughts, certain thoughts men aren't allowed to feel, and we got to current
• 39:59
  control that and we believe that's what misogyny is. It's controlling that, it's
• 40:04
  controlling that, it's in where was it we were Nottinghamshire. If you treat
• 40:09
  if a man treats a woman different than the way he would treat another man,
• 40:14
  then he's engaged in sexism, thus misogyny. Well, how do you
• 40:17
  know, how do you prove that kind of intent? You've essentially made a
• 40:22
  thought crime even essential or an emotion crime like objectification is an emotion crime.
• 40:29
  You men are feeling a feeling as a result of women looking a particular way,
• 40:35
  while that is a crime, or that it should be socially stigmatized and
• 40:38
  we're not even in the cave. And at the same time as we don't
• 40:43
  even think that women's behavior, they're overt actions taken towards others, should condemn
• 40:52
  them, and not the nearest man that sent his thoughts and feelings at her
• 41:00
  and put her in his thrall. Do you see that we think that men's
• 41:06
  thoughts and feelings have more effect over the world than women's behavior. It's astounding.
• 41:14
  And again she's defending Jezebel. But let's keep reading. Let's keep let's
• 41:17
  see what else Jezebel did. All right. So, Jezebel, you see,
• 41:25
  was the daughter of the priest king f Bal, ruler of the coastal
• 41:30
  Phoenician cities now in Lebanon, of Tire or tear and seedon Arabic SAIDA.
• 41:37
  When Jezebel married Ahab, she persuaded him to introduce the worship of the Tyrian
• 41:42
  god baal Melkart, a nature god. A woman of fierce energy, she
• 41:47
  tried to destroy those who opposed her. Most of the prophets of Yahweh were
• 41:51
  killed at her command. These cruel and despotic actions provoked the righteous wrath of
• 41:55
  Elijah. According to one case, seventeen, she accurately prophesied the onset of
• 42:02
  a severe drought as divine retribution. Oh he prophesied. So. Sometime later,
• 42:08
  Elijah had the bald priests slain after they lost a contest with him to
• 42:14
  see which God would heed prayers to ignite a bull offering ball or Yahweh.
• 42:20
  When Jezebel heard of the slaughter, she angrily swore to have Elijah killed,
• 42:23
  forcing him to flee for his life. The last vicious act attributed to Jezebel
• 42:30
  is recorded in Kings twenty one, p. Five through sixteen. Adjacent to
• 42:34
  Ahab's palace was a vineyard which he coveted. It belonged to a commoner,
• 42:38
  Naboth of Jezreel, an ancient city at the foot of Mount Gilboa, probably
• 42:45
  the site of the modern Israeli settlement of the same name. When Nabath refused
• 42:51
  to part with his vineyard, that would be the inheritance of my fathers,
• 42:54
  according to the scripture, Jezebel falsely charged him with blaspheming God and the king
• 43:00
  King, which led to Naboth's death by stoning. So she had the guy
• 43:04
  who owned the vineyard killed by stoning because he wouldn't part with his vineyard.
• 43:12
  Elijah confronted Ahab in the vineyard, predicting that he and all his heirs would
• 43:16
  be destroyed and that dogs in Jezreel would devour Jezebel. A few years later,
• 43:23
  a Hab perished in battle with the Syrians. Jezebel lived on for approximately
• 43:29
  another ten years. Elijah's successor, Elisha, the prophet, equally determined to
• 43:34
  end ball worship, had a military commander named Jehu anointed to be king of
• 43:38
  Israel, an act that provoked civil war for Jezebel's son Jehoram or Joram then
• 43:44
  ruled. Jayhu killed Jeream at the site of Nabas's property that would be again
• 43:52
  the vineyard. And then yeah, the one she saw and then went to
• 43:55
  Jezebel's palace. Expecting him. She adorned herself for the occasion. Looking down
• 44:00
  from her window, she taunted him, and Jehu ordered her eunuchs to throw
• 44:05
  her out the window. Later, when he commanded that she be properly buried
• 44:08
  as a king's daughter, it was discovered that dogs had eaten most of her
• 44:13
  body. Okay, so this was a tyrant, Yeah, this was a
• 44:22
  despot. Who essentially arranged to have someone murdered because she wanted his vineyard,
• 44:29
  among other things, right disregarding the rights of the common people. This is
• 44:34
  a despot and honestly she well, I mean, justice in the biblical times
• 44:43
  was pretty brutal. But the other thing is that he is no more or
• 44:47
  less than in like a grim fairy tale, though when you think about it,
• 44:51
  true true. She essentially like what happened is he appealed to her slaves
• 44:58
  we say eunuchs. You know, she appealed. He appealed to those slaves
• 45:02
  who had been sexually mutilated in order to serve her better, let's let's face
• 45:08
  it, and to kill her, and they did so. Essentially, it
• 45:15
  was also a slave uprising against a probably despotic mistress. What aspect of this
• 45:23
  woman's life is defensible? Again, life is something to model yourself on.
• 45:34
  I think I think that there should be some a little bit of added context,
• 45:37
  because I think it's why it might answer why Manifestel is using the story
• 45:45
  of jezebel Uh and latching onto that at least in this clip, and she
• 45:49
  might go into some other things as well. Mm hmm. So she's responding
• 45:52
  to this guy let me share this tab and show this to audience, because
• 46:00
  I think this is important context. So this is a football player, he's
• 46:06
  like a kicker, and he was giving a speech at a Catholic school or
• 46:10
  a Catholic college. I think that people were graduating, and so he said
• 46:15
  he had the audacity to say something Catholic at a Catholic college. So let
• 46:22
  me play the clip. Beautiful wife, Isabelle would be the first to say
• 46:24
  that her life truly started when she began living her vocation as a wife and
• 46:30
  as a mother, just like the nuns, the sisters, all the single
• 46:35
  ladies of contemporary times, even way back in pre colonial times. Women can't
• 46:39
  thrive and follow their highest calling and serve their people without being a wife and
• 46:45
  or a mother. All right, well, so what this the purpose of
• 46:51
  I think her video is to refute this guy. So this guy's a clip
• 46:54
  from his speech went viral, and it was the clip where he basically said
• 47:00
  that his wife, you know, like living as a wife and mother was
• 47:07
  like her highest calling. And what this did was it upset all of the
• 47:12
  women online, like basically just pissed off women everywhere and they were all like,
• 47:15
  you know, talk, they basically were just angry that a man said
• 47:21
  something probably true about his own wife who agrees with him, in front of
• 47:27
  a crowd, you know, and they thought of it like, oh,
• 47:30
  you're telling us this is how we have to live. So Manifestel is essentially
• 47:34
  because she knows that this guy is religious, she's trying to use religion against
• 47:38
  him. So it's not like she's like a follower of Jezebel or Nuns or
• 47:45
  whatever. She doesn't care about any of that. She's just trying to score
• 47:51
  points on this guy because he dared to speak out of turn in her mind,
• 47:55
  and that's why this has to be an issue. So she it's not
• 48:00
  she sees the story of Jezebel as a story of independent woman is you know,
• 48:07
  is murdered and and this is bad, right, Like, it's got
• 48:10
  nothing to do with her behavior. It's got nothing to do with her actions,
• 48:14
  because she's just taking the opposite position. And honestly, it's but I
• 48:21
  think it's indicative because you you basically look at Jezebel in terms of a bunch
• 48:28
  of buzzwords that resonate with a very superficial vision of reality. Yeah, you
• 48:37
  know, and it's like, no, Jezebel is not like, should men
• 48:40
  reform caligulad. She's trying to throw nuns into the girls club with these other
• 48:47
  women. Well, there was a group of nuns who did call it out.
• 48:51
  I don't know why they did that, but I guess it's just evidence
• 48:53
  that conservative women also have this problem. Like, yeah, the fact that
• 49:00
  he said this about his wife, does he have to say, well,
• 49:04
  not all women every time? No, but he said I think he said
• 49:07
  something to the effect of most of you may end up most of you women
• 49:12
  may end up just becoming mothers and wives. And that's okay, because obviously
• 49:16
  they were going to a college and he was trying to tell them that,
• 49:21
  you know, if it doesn't turn out that you end up becoming like a
• 49:23
  girl boss, it doesn't mean that you're like not a woman that's worthy of
• 49:30
  love and of happiness or whatever. So I think he was trying to say,
• 49:35
  you know, most likely he didn't say it like this, but he
• 49:37
  said, most likely you're going to end up not wanting to be a boss
• 49:39
  girl or a girl boss. And that's fine, right, That's basically what
• 49:45
  he said. Okay, So I don't know what the nuns had a problem
• 49:47
  with that, and I don't either. I mean, I mean, but
• 49:52
  this is sort of where we're at really, because I think the problem ultimately
• 49:55
  is that I mean, in the Catholic religion, there is that element.
• 50:00
  There is that you have to submit to your husband, and it's there,
• 50:06
  you know, and it's like it's like the elephant. But submit doesn't submit
• 50:10
  doesn't. I mean, I think you've said this already, but it literally
• 50:14
  doesn't. But it's there, it doesn't it You have to contend with it.
• 50:17
  You have to recognize it. That it means something that you are called
• 50:22
  upon to understand men is what I would I would, I would say is
• 50:27
  the real meaning. Like if you say you submit to God, then you're
• 50:30
  understanding God. Right, You're understanding God's intent for you. If you submit
• 50:36
  to men, that you're understanding men, you're understanding men's intent for you.
• 50:39
  And you are you have to get out of your head to understand someone besides
• 50:45
  yourself and to recognize the importance of someone besides themselves theirselves and their opinion on
• 50:50
  their life. Okay, that's what it means. But it's there. You
• 50:53
  can't just ignore it and forget it. And also I don't think that I
• 51:00
  don't. I don't think that does he have to say about you know,
• 51:02
  I'm exempting the nuns, you know, like they they are supposed to be
• 51:07
  married to Christ. Well they're married to the church or married to Christ,
• 51:13
  but that could be that still, that's still that they are still submitting to
• 51:17
  something outside of themselves, right, And most women are not going to become
• 51:23
  nuns. Yeah, you know that used to be like the thing they didn't
• 51:29
  want to do necessarily. That's the point, is that that's the that's just
• 51:32
  it, like it. Not everyone is cut out to be a girl boss,
• 51:37
  not everyone is cut out to be a nun. Most people are gonna
• 51:42
  end most women are going to end up probably if they're not like a complete
• 51:46
  paying the ass a wife and a mother. And that's okay, like it's
• 51:51
  it's not The problem is is that that is when you say that when when
• 51:57
  this football player says, you know, her greatest calling his wife and mother,
• 52:01
  everyone just sees that as like somehow lesser than anything else than being a
• 52:07
  nun or being a CEO, Like it's somehow so low, it's like even
• 52:13
  and it's like no, this is just this is like go outside and talk
• 52:17
  to people. That is the situation that most people are in. True for
• 52:22
  men, Yeah, it's a situation for men exactly. It's the same.
• 52:27
  Yeah, but it's not demeaning to be a parent. Aside for some really
• 52:31
  high flying men. Most men do work in order to be husbands and fathers,
• 52:39
  yes exactly. Yeah, it's like this. They're not actually taking anything
• 52:45
  much out of their work. They do the work so that they can attract
• 52:50
  a woman and become a husband and father, or they can they can provide
• 52:53
  for a family. So it's like the men have this additional step that they
• 53:00
  have to do to be worthy of having a family and being a father.
• 53:06
  This step is optional for women in many cases, I mean not so much
• 53:08
  anymore, but it used to be more optional for women. Women didn't have
• 53:15
  to be for a part of time. Now admittedly that's it was a very
• 53:20
  small slice of time, very small, very unlike this is unheard of,
• 53:27
  like I don't know, fifteen years where women could just stay at home.
• 53:30
  It was it was the very peak of basic prosperity and forward thinking. You
• 53:36
  know, it was unusual, like this is an unusual time, right,
• 53:40
  but women had that moment when they could forego like a lot, like even
• 53:46
  middle class. Women could forego being providers and just be mothers and wives,
• 53:54
  so they could forgo what men have to do. They never had a moment
• 54:00
  in human history when men have had to forego being a provider or a protector
• 54:06
  and have access to a family. Never been a moment in human history where
• 54:09
  men have been freed from that. But there was a moment where women were
• 54:13
  freed from it, right, And women will never let let men live it
• 54:19
  down. They will never let men live the fact that they gave them fifteen
• 54:23
  years. You know, a couple generations ago in which the most women could
• 54:30
  just focus on being wives and mothers and whatever philosophical, artistic, intellectual pursuits
• 54:37
  that they could fit in that that part time. You know that that extra
• 54:44
  six hours a day that they weren't working, now that they now weren't working,
• 54:49
  you know that women will never let men, never let it let them
• 54:53
  live it down. Yeah, talk about no good deed goes unpunished, huh.
• 55:01
  And the fact is that men are in the same boat. Men want
• 55:06
  to be fathers and husbands. Most men want to be fathers and husbands first
• 55:10
  career. It is just a means to that end. It's obvious, but
• 55:15
  The thing is a really good trick that feminism pulled is the idea that men
• 55:22
  wanting to be fathers and husbands is men wanting their power over women, and
• 55:30
  women wanting to be mothers and wives is them being handmaidens of the patriarchy.
• 55:37
  So even though both parties want the same thing, feminists paint them one as
• 55:43
  evil, like, so, oh, you want to be a father and
• 55:45
  a husband, I bet you do. You probably want to rule over your
• 55:47
  kids with an iron fist, you know what I mean, and like lord
• 55:51
  over your control the finances and all this other shit. And I think that
• 55:57
  that's why the double standard to them does not appear to be a double standard.
• 56:01
  It's simply rejecting And I bet Manifestel would agree with that. I think
• 56:07
  that Manifestel is essentially like, you know, the Third Freeze, a form
• 56:12
  of feminism. Like that's just like what she is saying and doing is she
• 56:16
  is the Andrew Tate, like the opposite. She is the feminist version of
• 56:22
  that, and she's just saying shit that sounds ridiculous, but it's like is
• 56:24
  it really though? Because like how far behind is the average woman from that
• 56:30
  from just coming to those conclusions and just like, yeah, I think I'm
• 56:32
  gonna worship Jezebel and Lilith now, you know instead of like yeahorrible people who
• 56:40
  continues we have killed her own children? Yeah, yeah, she was the
• 56:45
  goddess of of being a slut that had a million abortions. You know,
• 56:50
  Yeah, were the abortions or was she actually just killing them? I think
• 56:53
  she was killing Yeah, well it's sort of symbolically. It was symbolically like
• 56:59
  abortion. But yeah, and fantasie whatever you want to call it. But
• 57:01
  she would have like one hundred babies a day and then kill a hundred babies
• 57:05
  a day. But I still think in fantaside is worth worse. But yeah,
• 57:10
  she was. She was raping men and killing her babies. That is
• 57:15
  not getting pregnant by them. That is that well, Actually Lilith does sort
• 57:20
  of reflect more like the current generation of women considering considering that they do engage.
• 57:27
  Lilith would be a regular on the whatever podcast if she was, like,
• 57:30
  there'd be a big leather winged sucubus hosting the podcast. Yes, yes,
• 57:37
  covered in tattoos, you know, yeah, she she would be a
• 57:40
  representation of the millennial shift. Good grief, did I wonder did they did
• 57:46
  did our ancestors just live through all of this? I think that this all.
• 57:52
  I think everything that we have read about in history books and even in
• 57:54
  the Bible happens in cycles. And I think that we're experiencing a cycle.
• 57:59
  I do, Yeah, I agree, I do. I mean, if
• 58:01
  you think about it, like all of the places in the Bible, whether
• 58:07
  you believe in that or not, doesn't matter. All of those places can
• 58:09
  be found on a map on the earth, like you can look at where
• 58:15
  Judea is or you know, on the map, you can look at where
• 58:19
  all these places that meant they mentioned. Even in the bit I was reading,
• 58:22
  it tells you where these places are. So it's almost like there is
• 58:28
  I think that there that this sub happens in cycles, and I think we're
• 58:30
  in the midst of a cycle. For sure. It's like we we become,
• 58:36
  we rise, we become comfortable, then we let in a bunch of
• 58:38
  bad shit. You end up with Tower Babbel, you end up with Sodom
• 58:42
  and Gomorah, you end up with the fall of Rome, and and so
• 58:45
  on. Right, it just keeps happening, floods, you know, Bolshevik
• 58:52
  revolution, whatever. And I think that that there, we're in the midst
• 58:55
  of a I don't know where we are in the cycle, but I think
• 59:00
  we're in the midst of a cycle. It's almost like they watched the fall
• 59:04
  of a very large, centralized series of empires, or at least the slow
• 59:09
  decay. However long the Bronze Age collapse took. Apparently took longer than fifty
• 59:15
  years, but that's still it's still pretty. It's pretty you know, in
• 59:20
  the in the history of the alphabet, that's even like two hundred years is
• 59:25
  not that long. Or the history of humans. No, no, nor
• 59:29
  history, certainly not in the history of evolution. That's the thing, blink
• 59:32
  in the eye. Yeah, we're so short lived. I think we have
• 59:37
  like this really distorted view of like, you know, like how who lived
• 59:42
  before us, and how you know, how primitive and stupid they must be,
• 59:45
  and how they they they could never have experienced the things that we're experiencing.
• 59:47
  It's like, no, they totally did. It's the same because like,
• 59:52
  no matter how much we advance in technology or advanced philosophically, even if
• 59:55
  it is advancing, we're still the same, you know, meat bags with
• 1:00:00
  lizard brains. So like we're we're just making the same mistakes. That's why
• 1:00:06
  we need wisdom, you know, to be to guide us. And I
• 1:00:09
  think that I think that we're it's really easy to forget that, especially when
• 1:00:15
  you're really comfortable. And I think that's that's what we're going through now.
• 1:00:16
  It's like the age of the extremely comfortable and and uh, terminally anxious woman,
• 1:00:23
  and that's what we're living through with soble. So what I want to
• 1:00:28
  point out is each successive wave of so called empowerment of women has sort of
• 1:00:36
  come with a particular mascot. So the waves of you know, wanting to
• 1:00:45
  have the vote sort of came with poor men who didn't have the vote.
• 1:00:50
  That makes sense, and and so the connection was that women were as oppressed
• 1:00:54
  as poor men. And then you know, the civil rights women are as
• 1:01:00
  oppressed as minorities, and then the lgbt Q women are as oppressed as the
• 1:01:04
  LGB. Actually not t I won't put LGB okay, there's there is oppressed
• 1:01:08
  as the lesbians and the gays and the bisexuals, and that that is oppressed
• 1:01:14
  in terms of their sexual behavior. So the first you start, they're oppressed
• 1:01:17
  in terms of not being able to have the vote even though poor men had
• 1:01:21
  to go to war without a vote. They're just as oppressed, or or
• 1:01:24
  they're even more oppressed than poor men because they also don't have the vote.
• 1:01:29
  Right. And then we go to again the civil rights, all of the
• 1:01:34
  all of the the sort of secret disenfranchisement in in the law, the legal
• 1:01:43
  system of minorities also applies to women, and they're just as oppressed. And
• 1:01:49
  then and then we get all the rise of the of the of the narrative
• 1:01:52
  around equalizing the playing field for women as a that is connected to equalizing the
• 1:01:59
  play playing field for minorities. You see what I'm saying. So you got
• 1:02:02
  equalizing the playing field for poor men gets connected to equalizing the playing field for
• 1:02:07
  women, which is to give them a vote even though poor men had to
• 1:02:10
  go to war for it. Right, So, equalizing the playing field in
• 1:02:15
  education, in law, in employment for minorities comes with equalizing the playing field
• 1:02:23
  for education, law, and employment for women, even though they were the
• 1:02:30
  main beneficiaries of men's advancement in those areas, if that makes sense, and
• 1:02:37
  were not do not benefit from white men having better jobs, but white women
• 1:02:45
  do. And then because those better jobs give those white women access or so
• 1:02:51
  white men access to forming relationships with women, and then legally those women get
• 1:02:57
  part of that at divorce. They're always legally entitled to the income of their
• 1:03:02
  husbands. But that's irrelevant. Okay, we have to look at it as
• 1:03:07
  women have it just as bad as minorities because we can't look at the Again,
• 1:03:13
  if we include marriage into the picture, then that completely changes it.
• 1:03:17
  Like a white woman married to a high powered white lawyer may not have had
• 1:03:25
  the same access to becoming a lawyer or staying a lawyer as he did,
• 1:03:31
  but she is certainly much more benefited by the situation than a minority man who
• 1:03:37
  never got any chance, like he's not going to have Like a minority man
• 1:03:42
  is going to have access to that white guy's salary, nor is he going
• 1:03:46
  to be that white guy going to be expected to give the minority man money
• 1:03:51
  if they ever get divorced because they're not getting married. So again, marriage
• 1:03:54
  provides women access to the things that men do, and if you remove that
• 1:04:00
  from the equation, then it's just depression. You know. Then women are
• 1:04:04
  just as oppressed as minority men. And then women are just as oppressed by
• 1:04:10
  cultural factors as LGB you know, and now women are just as oppressed by
• 1:04:17
  I don't know whatever it is that trans women have as well. But you
• 1:04:21
  see each each iteration they piggyback on another group that is experiencing some kind of
• 1:04:29
  statistical or legal or or statistical or legal kind of inequality, you see what
• 1:04:36
  I'm saying, and they use to bolster their own claims. And then we
• 1:04:41
  focus everything on how society isn't serving women because minorities. Society isn't serving women
• 1:04:48
  because gay men, Society isn't serving women because because of poor men. Society
• 1:04:54
  isn't serving women because of trans women. You know, you see how that
• 1:04:58
  works like our I feel like I could make this more concise, but what
• 1:05:03
  I'm getting to is that this entire argument is that misogyny. We we have
• 1:05:14
  moved misogyny from not having the vote, from not having equal rights to to
• 1:05:18
  jobs, from not having equal rights to I guess, social recognition, to
• 1:05:25
  all of these kinds of emotional factors that trans women constantly complain about. Do
• 1:05:30
  you see the progression like it's going from the vote, Yeah, it becomes
• 1:05:33
  ever more and more trivial and confused and harder and yeah fog ear, and
• 1:05:40
  harder to prove yeah, and again it be gets even more excuses for women's
• 1:05:45
  behavior, right, and and reframing the issue into how women are harmed by
• 1:05:53
  what's going on rather than what what is what is actually happening legally or physically
• 1:06:00
  or you know that kind of thing. But I just okay, I apologize.
• 1:06:05
  I think I lost the thread a bit. So let's maybe watch.
• 1:06:09
  Oh that's okay, let me Yeah, but I got some super childs and
• 1:06:12
  super chats, okay, so to read them. Okay. So Richard Bierre
• 1:06:15
  gives us ten bucks and says, I heard that even the nuns from the
• 1:06:17
  Catholic University were dragging Harrison. Yeah, we talked about that a little bit
• 1:06:21
  already. I would like to see what they said exactly. I don't want
• 1:06:26
  to, but yeah, I've heard the same. The one good man gives
• 1:06:29
  us five bucks and says, we all know that if a WNBA star had
• 1:06:32
  coked up about how much she loved her wife, it would have been stunning
• 1:06:39
  and brave. Oh yeah, sure, yeah, I can see that.
• 1:06:42
  Let too busy beating up on that one WNBA player nowadays because they're jealous.
• 1:06:45
  It's so funny. The one good man gives us five dollars again and says
• 1:06:50
  greetings from Limey Land. I suspect the misogyny law will be unevenly enforced,
• 1:06:56
  and will it also apply to women? Probably not. And then I got
• 1:07:00
  a couple of super chats. So Albernita retro gives us two dollars Canadian and
• 1:07:05
  says, Butcker is number seven on the chiefs by his jersey, and that's
• 1:07:12
  the guy that was speaking. And then he gives us another five dollars Canadian,
• 1:07:15
  says Lilith was the rejected first wife of Adam who would steal men's sperm,
• 1:07:19
  and is the mother of monsters with the archangel Samuel, who had been
• 1:07:24
  cast out. Lilith does not appear in the Bible. She appears in the
• 1:07:29
  Talmud, which is a Babylonian old Jewish book. It's well, there's several
• 1:07:36
  books, but it's she doesn't appear in the in the Bible that Christians use.
• 1:07:43
  So just so you know, all right, anyway, that's all of
• 1:07:46
  the super chats, super child. So do you want me to play the
• 1:07:48
  next clip here? Alison? You're beauty? Yes, yes, okay,
• 1:07:56
  all right, all right, let me switch to the see And I wanted
• 1:08:00
  to touch on her comment about how the single shaming has to stop, and
• 1:08:06
  this reminds me of Sho girl. She was just minding her own business on
• 1:08:12
  Sabbath, taking her day of rest, making shakshukha, delighting in God's creation,
• 1:08:16
  and the conservatives were literally foaming at the mouth attacking her like how dare
• 1:08:20
  she love her single life? How dare she become an idle asset? How
• 1:08:25
  dare she celebrate her unoccupied room? Gross? Like, I'm so done with
• 1:08:29
  a single shaming, I swear like all these people who are mad at single
• 1:08:31
  women are just mad that the single women aren't picking them, Okay, Like
• 1:08:35
  women really would rather be single than pick a man. And we're going to
• 1:08:39
  go into listen a little bit about how the Bible and the myths and the
• 1:08:43
  narratives that we tell ourselves have ingrained in men this entitlement to women. And
• 1:08:48
  it's not just hurting us women, it's hurting the men as well. So
• 1:08:51
  stay tuned anyway, all right, that's that clip. I yeah, I
• 1:09:00
  mean, like, what single shaming? What's that like? Like, you
• 1:09:04
  know, people ask people, especially at church. I remember I took Lindsay
• 1:09:12
  to church when we first came here to Virginia, and this old couple said
• 1:09:15
  do you guys have any kids? And I said no, and they were
• 1:09:18
  like, oh, well, are you planning on having any? And and
• 1:09:21
  I answered the question. I was like, well, I'm not really sure
• 1:09:24
  that we can, and and we left it at that, and I was
• 1:09:27
  not upset. I mean, I understand why people ask. It doesn't bother
• 1:09:30
  me. I don't understand why it's not shame. I don't think it's shame,
• 1:09:35
  but I don't know. I mean, I'm just I'm just like not
• 1:09:41
  bothered by that. People do whatever you want at all. Yeah. No,
• 1:09:45
  I mean, actually I think that's probably a good idea. I think
• 1:09:47
  that's manifest Dell should endeavor to do everything she can to stay single, which
• 1:09:57
  I think she's already doing. So all right, let's go to So there's
• 1:10:02
  here here the names that the AI gave to these clips, so we can
• 1:10:05
  just jump to one Catholic university speaker respecting religious freedom, rediscovering worth and value,
• 1:10:14
  changing women's narratives and myths. That. Okay, let's see women's value,
• 1:10:18
  which is probably it's infinite, guys, it's infinite. Oh I you
• 1:10:23
  know that, but it is all right, So let's put this one on
• 1:10:26
  the screen and we're gonna play this now, Okay. And like I said,
• 1:10:31
  we don't need to create a religion out of it. The vibe is
• 1:10:34
  not to tear down Catholicism. I pray that, oh, I pray that.
• 1:10:41
  I you we can rediscover, share with each other, create myths,
• 1:10:47
  lore narratives that posit our high inherent worth and value as women. We already
• 1:10:54
  know the truth. And okay, okay, okay, okay, sorry you
• 1:10:59
  cannot all right, you don't have a narrative like that's not going to create
• 1:11:02
  a narrative your high inherent worth and value as woman? What the hell kind
• 1:11:09
  of narrative is that? Is that you just sitting in a ship filled diaper
• 1:11:15
  having people kiss your your crusty thighs because you you won't even bother to do
• 1:11:23
  any kind of hygiene or take any effort to make yourself presentable. Like what
• 1:11:28
  what is? What is your inherent worth? What your the problem? The
• 1:11:32
  real problem with the human race is that women have any inherent worth? Yeah,
• 1:11:40
  oh god, I'm so full of it's a little that's a little bit.
• 1:11:44
  That's a little bit based, Allison. I'm just saying, I'm okay,
• 1:11:48
  women should start at zero and their actions should take them above it.
• 1:11:54
  So what you're saying is that we should be humble. Yes, yeah,
• 1:11:59
  I know, I imagine. Okay, this is gonna be like, I
• 1:12:04
  don't know how you guys are gonna vibe with this. Okay, but this
• 1:12:06
  manifestel is essentially saying that we should create a new religion that worships women and
• 1:12:14
  puts them at the center and acknowledges their worth. Now in what now.
• 1:12:18
  I know you guys might want to throw that out, but you understand that
• 1:12:23
  when she says, I don't want to dig on Catholicism, and then she
• 1:12:26
  says we need to create something new, like like, first of all,
• 1:12:30
  she suggests that human beings could just make it and it's somehow as valid or
• 1:12:34
  more valid than Catholicism, which is which is in fact throwing shade at Christianity
• 1:12:42
  basically and also presuming it could be replaced. Now, you guys may not
• 1:12:47
  be religious, I get it, But she is literally creating the golden calf
• 1:12:53
  or her case, a cow. Okay, So this is that is what
• 1:12:58
  is being put forward. I should worshiped, I should be valued. I
• 1:13:01
  know my value. I am a goddess, right, I have the energy.
• 1:13:05
  She even tried to suggest that Christianity itself is woman worship and it's not.
• 1:13:14
  I'm sorry, but it isn't, and she hates that, so she
• 1:13:16
  has to like replace it. So you know, whatever your thoughts are on
• 1:13:19
  religion doesn't matter, because this woman worships herself regardless, and people will generally
• 1:13:28
  go along with that. In fact, I think that that is kind of
• 1:13:30
  like the world we're living in now. That's not a narrative. No,
• 1:13:36
  it's not a narrative. No. A narrative requires movement. A narrative requires
• 1:13:41
  a goal, It requires conflict, it requires chut spa, it requires grit,
• 1:13:46
  which requires demonstration. It was actually interesting because last night we finished up
• 1:13:51
  watching My Fair Lady with Audrey Hepron and the character in My Fair Lady,
• 1:13:59
  it was one of the guys who's watching it with me pointed out that she
• 1:14:02
  has to do more to earn what she gets in that movie than most women
• 1:14:09
  female like characters today in particular, and most noticeably female so called superheroes,
• 1:14:16
  Like she really has to fight for what she gets, and that is admirable.
• 1:14:24
  That is something that has worth and value, and I think the real,
• 1:14:30
  like I said. I know, I was just being slightly slightly black
• 1:14:32
  humor when I said the problem is that women haven't. The problem is that
• 1:14:39
  we say, or we give women the impression, or we create a society
• 1:14:45
  in which women's so called inherent worth is worth more than their individual merit.
• 1:14:53
  Yeah, and that's really unfortunate because Manifestel is a manifestation of that she is.
• 1:15:01
  Okay, okay, so let me go back and we'll listen to the
• 1:15:05
  rest of this clip. I guess don't need to wait for another religious upheaval.
• 1:15:11
  We can change the stories, the myths, the lore we tell each
• 1:15:14
  other now, and we can change how we perceive ourselves in the world.
• 1:15:18
  And that's my every class. By telling you that you have so much inherent
• 1:15:23
  worth and value in a world that is hell bent on devaluing you. Okay,
• 1:15:29
  no, no, oh good? Who does this resonate with, first
• 1:15:33
  of all narcissistic? Apparently it requires okay, it requires me to value manifestation
• 1:15:44
  manifest Dell's opinion on my value, And I don't like I what women listen
• 1:15:54
  to this and are like, oh, yeah, that's a wonder. No,
• 1:15:56
  it isn't, because you become reliant on this individual valuing you, and
• 1:16:03
  what happens when they stop? And I've seen this happen. I've seen the
• 1:16:09
  love bombing of these kind of cultists. Yes, a person who is vulnerable
• 1:16:15
  to this, reliant on their approval, and then they take it away when
• 1:16:20
  they want you to do something for them. They want you to say what
• 1:16:24
  they think you should say, they want you to do what they think you
• 1:16:28
  should do. Don't get into evolved to this, you know, and the
• 1:16:32
  more you learn that your value is a result of your actions, in particular
• 1:16:40
  your actions adhering to a standard of virtue or morality or ethics, whatever you
• 1:16:45
  want to choose, something that recognizes that your behavior has an effect on others
• 1:16:50
  and you need to take responsibility for it. And by taking responsibility for it,
• 1:16:57
  become a better person. And that's where you take your value. The
• 1:17:00
  more you do that, the more you find you're actually more independent in terms
• 1:17:05
  of how you value yourself. You're not as dependent towards You don't have to
• 1:17:11
  constantly search for these sources of fatuous praise that flatter to deceive, flatter to
• 1:17:16
  control, Like she, what happens when you disagree with manifestel What happens when
• 1:17:24
  you don't provide Manifestel a bag. Right, well, what did Jezebel do?
• 1:17:30
  Yeah, what did Jezebel do? What happens when you challenge Manifestel's right
• 1:17:35
  to a bag? All of that praise evaporates, and if you everything that
• 1:17:42
  you have made reliant on her evaporates with it. Okay, this is toxic.
• 1:17:51
  Don't listen to this, this is a trap. Listen to what I'm
• 1:17:58
  saying. Fine, your values. Find what you want to serve, whatever
• 1:18:06
  that is, if you want to save the manatee, if you want to
• 1:18:11
  be a mother, if you want to be the best architect, whatever,
• 1:18:15
  Find that external standard that represents how you serve society and make it better and
• 1:18:21
  judge yourself based on it. Do not get involved with people like this.
• 1:18:29
  Do not get involved in this fake form of flattery that's only used to control.
• 1:18:34
  You will be a much more maybe not always happy, but you will
• 1:18:40
  find a way to get yourself that will give you a way out of your
• 1:18:45
  misery, out of your self focus, out of your depression, to recognize
• 1:18:50
  that you are you make your worth through service. Right, Okay, I'm
• 1:18:56
  just saying that. Just don't don't. I got I gotta rumble ran I
• 1:19:00
  want to read out before I forget, so Nova f twenty one gave us
• 1:19:02
  a dollar and said, more than the red pillars, I blame Republicans who
• 1:19:06
  let women roam free and blame men who offend the lady. All right,
• 1:19:12
  yeah, the Republicans sort of that's the problem. Like there's a lot of
• 1:19:17
  I know that it's not supposed to be necessarily in Catholicism, the religion is
• 1:19:23
  sort of distorted, but there is a lot of a complete lack of holding
• 1:19:29
  women to standards, even in conservative traditionalist spheres, like it's just you,
• 1:19:34
  it's just not happening. And I mean, honestly, I would say that
• 1:19:42
  part of the reason why the left is doing better with women is, even
• 1:19:46
  in a twisted way, it gives women an external standard to hold themselves to,
• 1:19:50
  which is intersectionality, and it's it's I don't think it's functional. I
• 1:19:56
  don't think it's it's it's a eyes system, but it is providing them some
• 1:20:03
  kind of external standard to hold themselves to. And honestly, you gotta you
• 1:20:11
  gotta figure out a wiser standard because this this standard is dumb. Yeah it
• 1:20:17
  is, okay, So do you want to play the rest of this clip,
• 1:20:23
  or go to another clip. Let's let's see if there's anything worth it
• 1:20:27
  in there. Just finishing heavily by these Abrahamic religions, and we don't need
• 1:20:34
  a loud revolution where we shout at men to let us do what we want,
• 1:20:39
  think what we want, say what we want. We'll just do it
• 1:20:42
  this whole va. So essentially, you're gonna live completely in isolation. I
• 1:20:47
  love I love this, This is so funny. But go ahead, go
• 1:20:49
  ahead, live in complete isolation. Yeah, well, then do it,
• 1:20:54
  Lee, walk away from this the system that sustains you. She's not gonna
• 1:20:59
  do that. Yeah, you're not going to do that. You're gonna still
• 1:21:00
  know, you're going to continue to parasitize on it and not take responsibility for
• 1:21:06
  any aspect of its maintenance. Yeah. The funny thing is is she's like,
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  we don't, we don't need to yell at men to get them to
• 1:21:14
  do what we want. We can just get it. And it's like,
• 1:21:15
  no, actually you can't. You literally have to appeal to men to get
• 1:21:20
  what you want. You literally have Well, yeah, but you or yell
• 1:21:24
  at them or shame them, but you cannot do this. You can't.
• 1:21:28
  You can't escape it, right you you unless you want to rough it,
• 1:21:31
  which you know, good luck, you know. I hope you do it,
• 1:21:33
  but I have my doubts she doesn't. She doesn't strike me as the
• 1:21:39
  kind of woman who's yeah, she's like no, I could I could not
• 1:21:42
  imagine her like home, setting on her own with like a shotgun, you
• 1:21:47
  know, protecting your chickens from the wolves. Like, there's just no way.
• 1:21:50
  It's just you're you're you are dependent on the patriarchy that you hate.
• 1:21:56
  You have created this and and you did have disdain for the men who support
• 1:22:00
  the system, and you're trying to convince us that you don't need men.
• 1:22:05
  Like literally, like I said, you know, everything comes down to who
• 1:22:13
  is able to exert the most force. Now, men generally do not want
• 1:22:16
  to do that with women. They don't to their own detriment. Buddy,
• 1:22:21
  can I give Can I just I guess I want to get in there because
• 1:22:24
  this is not it's not just who's able to exert the most force, but
• 1:22:29
  who's able to create the greatest level of cooperation in exerting force. Because you
• 1:22:34
  know, if you look in p history, let's just look at I'm gonna
• 1:22:38
  use the example everybody take a shot the Barbarian hordes versus the Roman legion,
• 1:22:44
  like they were able to cooperate and bring up more manpower. That doesn't That
• 1:22:49
  doesn't mean like maybe an individual warrior may have been more powerful than an individual
• 1:22:55
  soldier, but through discipline and through tactics, they were able to overcome that,
• 1:23:00
  right because they cooperated. So it's not just who brings the most amount
• 1:23:04
  of power, it's who can develop the most the biggest network of power to
• 1:23:11
  bring If that makes sense. Yeah, men are better at that too,
• 1:23:14
  that's my point true, So like men are better at both of those things.
• 1:23:18
  I'm just saying. Manifestel thinks she's so incredibly sheltered and delusional about her
• 1:23:25
  situation. She thinks she can just be like I don't need men and then
• 1:23:29
  go to Whole Foods and be like, do you guys have that in the
• 1:23:30
  back, without realizing that that's men that are doing that. Like men just
• 1:23:35
  men don't have to actually force anything on women. They could just take a
• 1:23:40
  day off and she'd be like fucking disheveled and crying and you know, like
• 1:23:44
  probably on the like standing on the rooftop getting ready to throw herself from it.
• 1:23:47
  Because like her her Starbucks was closed or or like the internet was down,
• 1:23:54
  or like you know whatever, it is right, Like she doesn't have
• 1:23:56
  any data on her phone. Like I mean, this is what I mean
• 1:24:01
  by there. There is no humility. She is not even able to think,
• 1:24:08
  Holy shit, everything I have is because of men. Everything I have
• 1:24:12
  is because of what men have done. Why am I such a cunt towards
• 1:24:16
  the men that are keeping things running? You know? But like she's unable
• 1:24:19
  to do it. She can't see it. It's like she can't see it.
• 1:24:24
  Like so many of these women are just completely divorced from where everything comes
• 1:24:30
  from. Remember, misogyny is going to be criminalized. And misogyny is holding
• 1:24:34
  women to any kind of standard. Let's let's face it, that's what it
• 1:24:39
  basically comes down. Yeah, it's holding women to any Yeah, it's holding
• 1:24:43
  like if I just told her, you know, you should probably put your
• 1:24:45
  ego in check and be humble, I would be considered a misogynist. And
• 1:24:49
  I'm doing it for your own good and and misogyny is basically expecting women to
• 1:24:56
  suck it up in any way. Okay, all right, listen to this.
• 1:25:02
  They want me to play the next one Okay, benevolent versus hostile sexism,
• 1:25:09
  I'm sure all of it's the same kind of bad when it's affecting women
• 1:25:13
  and it's coming from men. So all right, let's hear it. Let's
• 1:25:16
  talk about benevolent sexism. And in this context, sexism is basically just how
• 1:25:21
  you treat the other sex differently. Basically, if you treat someone differently,
• 1:25:26
  that's an ism. So benevolent sexism is a positive form of sexism, in
• 1:25:30
  which men treat women better than they do other men. They are more chivalrous,
• 1:25:36
  they're more generous, They really like, appreciate and pour into the women
• 1:25:42
  around them, especially their female partner. That's benevolent sexism. I mean,
• 1:25:46
  is it benevolent sexism or is it chivalry? Anyway. The opposite of that
• 1:25:50
  is hostile sexism, which we see a lot of online where men literally despise
• 1:25:57
  women. They hate on women, They are hurtful physically and emotionally and mentally
• 1:26:03
  to women. Okay, stopostil Okay, First of all, let us divide
• 1:26:09
  criminal behavior from men online. How much of these men online who are despising
• 1:26:15
  women are actually despising women's behavior, Like, don't I don't trust this woman?
• 1:26:20
  To understand the difference between despising a woman and despising how she acts,
• 1:26:27
  because her example is Jezebel. Well, I don't know how a woman could
• 1:26:32
  act worse. Right, she took away the rights of the common people,
• 1:26:38
  she stole, she got people murdered, right, she had slaves for God's
• 1:26:44
  sake. How does a woman act worse? And yet she is trying to
• 1:26:47
  say, oh, it's really about no, it's about her behavior. And
• 1:26:50
  I'm like, I'm looking at this, I'm like, does she understand that
• 1:26:55
  people are not necessarily their behavior, Like they can change their behavior. So
• 1:27:00
  when a man says stop doing that to a woman or shames a woman for
• 1:27:08
  doing something that is destructive, when a man does that, that does not
• 1:27:15
  mean he despises women. And the fact that she's trying to cape for Jazebel
• 1:27:20
  suggests that she doesn't understand the difference, or she doesn't want to, or
• 1:27:25
  it's not useful to her argument. I think it's just about utility. Yeah,
• 1:27:30
  okay, yeah, it's just about utility. It's just not useful to
• 1:27:33
  her argument. Yeah, benevolent sexism sounds like ginocentrism. Actually, you know,
• 1:27:42
  this is why most forms of what what what just seems to cause women
• 1:27:47
  to just melt. I don't care. Yeah, because when men talk about
• 1:27:56
  these things, they're talking about specific behaviors. So I'm like, well,
• 1:27:59
  do I engage in that behavior? Nope? Well they're not talking about me,
• 1:28:03
  you know, yeah, exactly. Yeah, So there we go.
• 1:28:08
  I mean nil until they say this is all men or this is what men
• 1:28:11
  do. Yeah, this is men. Well, but I'm talking about women.
• 1:28:15
  So when what she's if she is caping for Jezebel, that means when
• 1:28:19
  she says men are being despising women on the internet, it probably means that
• 1:28:27
  men are identifying negative behaviors that women engage in and shaming or guilting them for.
• 1:28:32
  Yeah. Yeah, that's that's what I'm getting right, Yeah, And
• 1:28:35
  I don't have a problem with that because when people do that, I think
• 1:28:40
  to myself, do I engage in that behavior? No? Therefore it doesn't
• 1:28:45
  apply to me, even if they say all women do it. Yeah,
• 1:28:49
  if it does apply to me, then guess what I can do? I
• 1:28:54
  can stop, right, And then I learned that I have mass over myself
• 1:29:01
  and my impulses, which is actually a really really good feeling. No manifesto
• 1:29:09
  should try it sometimes. All right, all right, let's let's sen rest,
• 1:29:14
  and here's my hot take. Is like, if a man doesn't treat
• 1:29:16
  a woman differently like he just treats her like another man, I would say
• 1:29:20
  that is also sexism. So I take manevolent sexism all day, every day,
• 1:29:26
  because that's how I should be treated period. Okay, Well, I
• 1:29:30
  mean, I guess at least you're honest. But it's funny because essentially,
• 1:29:33
  what she's saying men interacting with women as sexist no matter what. Treat them,
• 1:29:38
  treat them poorly, treat them well, or treat them the same.
• 1:29:41
  All of it's sexist. Okay, good Lord Jesus Christ. Guys, oh
• 1:29:50
  man, I don't even have a stament through that. You're right, all
• 1:29:56
  right, it's all of it. Actually, Catholic university is a good one
• 1:30:02
  too. All right, let's go to you listen to this one. All
• 1:30:05
  right. Let's let's listen to this one then, because it's actually hilariously an
• 1:30:14
  un self aware Yeah, all right, let's play it. Here we go.
• 1:30:18
  Anyway, said something which really got me thinking, all sides of this
• 1:30:23
  suck because as a Catholic, he has every right to go to a Catholic
• 1:30:27
  university and talk about Catholic morals and values and traditions, and also Catholic students
• 1:30:31
  have a right to hear him speak about Catholic morals and traditions and value.
• 1:30:35
  Can I just stop here for a second, Like why does everyone start this
• 1:30:39
  with so and so has a right that that's is not obvious, like he's
• 1:30:44
  speaking, we live in a Western nation. Yes, everybody has a right
• 1:30:48
  to talk, and you have a right to listen or not. So why
• 1:30:51
  are you prefacing this? Like what are you building up to? Like is
• 1:30:56
  all obvious shit? Like if you have to tell me that you have a
• 1:30:59
  right to say something or so and so has a right to say something before
• 1:31:01
  you counter them, I'm just not listening to you anymore because you're obviously not
• 1:31:05
  gonna say anything of value. In my opinion, it's like super obvious stuff.
• 1:31:11
  But okay, and yet we are going to listen to their college commitmentment.
• 1:31:14
  The fact that anybody's upset about this that isn't Catholic. You have no
• 1:31:17
  business or reason to be upset about this, Like you wouldn't go into a
• 1:31:23
  mosque and like be upset that they're talking about their religion. There he's talking
• 1:31:29
  about his religion and in a place that literally teaches the religion, like leave
• 1:31:32
  him alone, Like it's honestly none of your business. It's not it's none
• 1:31:36
  of your business. If you're not Catholic, you're not a part of that
• 1:31:41
  community. You don't have any right to talk about what he said in that
• 1:31:45
  Catholic setting. That was the end. Okay, So this this segment was
• 1:31:49
  not actually the one that I was thinking of. I'm gonna have to look
• 1:31:54
  a little bit more closely because I think the one that I was thinking of
• 1:31:57
  what should I listened to was her. I mean, that's all true.
• 1:32:02
  But okay, so the other thing, rediscovering worth that is the Catholic approach
• 1:32:08
  to life. But yeah, but like that's the thing is is that Well,
• 1:32:13
  first of all, it's it's fashionable to attack Christianity. It has been
• 1:32:16
  for a while. But the other thing, because like if this was a
• 1:32:19
  Muslim and he was like saying some stuff at a college or something, and
• 1:32:24
  there are a bunch of Muslims there, she would be making a video about
• 1:32:27
  it. She wouldn't, she would ignore it. It probably wouldn't even matter,
• 1:32:30
  Like nobody would care because that stuff happens all the time. It's just
• 1:32:33
  beneath their notice. Okay, so I think that that is. And again
• 1:32:40
  I think that everyone responding, not just manifestel everyone responding to this guy's speech,
• 1:32:46
  all the women responding and freaking out. They what they ultimately dislike has
• 1:32:51
  nothing to do with religion at all. They just dislike that a man expressed
• 1:32:57
  a preference about a woman who has already chosen him by the way, you
• 1:33:01
  know, and they're just like, oh my god, I can't believe it.
• 1:33:05
  I mean, I wonder if his wife got a lot of hate too.
• 1:33:11
  I wonder about that. Or maybe she's not online. Maybe she's one
• 1:33:14
  of these smart people that doesn't go on the internet. Okay. The one
• 1:33:16
  I was thinking is Badger live stream. It's labeled Badger Lives this one.
• 1:33:21
  Yeah, I'm not exactly sure how that happened, but that is weird.
• 1:33:26
  Yeah, she doesn't even mention us, so have no idea what's going on
• 1:33:30
  there? All right, let's play it. Sure, I actually agree with
• 1:33:36
  this. And the only reason we're doing this class is because I'm Catholic.
• 1:33:41
  I went through my sacraments, I went to Catholic school all my life,
• 1:33:44
  and no way Catholic. Yeah you are not. Like sorry, but you
• 1:33:49
  can't just say I'm I'm of this and then you do nothing. You do
• 1:33:54
  none of the things. It's like the worship Satan, Yeah right, al
• 1:34:00
  Satan and myself, we're gonna we gotta make a new religion. Also,
• 1:34:03
  I'm Catholic, you're not. You don't get to say you're something and then
• 1:34:10
  like we're just supposed to like make everything fit into the thing that you told
• 1:34:14
  us you are, you're not. If you're not living it, you're not
• 1:34:15
  it. This is an amazing probably a bad Catholic, but yeah, you're
• 1:34:23
  terrible. And if you ever heard anyone say that like they're a bad Catholic,
• 1:34:28
  that's such a Catholic thing to say, because the vibe of Catholicism is
• 1:34:34
  except that you're imperfect, that you're just full of sin. Like there's this
• 1:34:40
  sin vibe going on all day every day, and we're just trying to be
• 1:34:45
  a better person each day and better person. So I'm saying that because whenever
• 1:34:50
  I see Catholic influencers or people like appreciate about their Catholicism line, it's like,
• 1:34:55
  I don't know, I don't think like we're all sinful humans. Oh
• 1:35:00
  oh really, good Lord? Like, how did she manage to make her
• 1:35:05
  incredible egotism into a new like an attempt at humility? Yeah, you're a
• 1:35:12
  bad Catholic congratulating she's saying it about but now she's saying everyone is a bad
• 1:35:16
  Catholic. Therefore, what she's doing, she's saying she's a bad Catholic because
• 1:35:23
  saying you're a bad Catholic means you're a good Catholic. Oh good Lord,
• 1:35:29
  Okay, I I want to point out that she talks about humility and having
• 1:35:35
  living up to a standards, recognizing you're imperfect. Where does how does that
• 1:35:40
  jive with the inherent worth and worshiping yourself as a goddess? And also,
• 1:35:45
  how does that jive with not recognizing Jezebel's behavior omits her from the category of
• 1:35:51
  being a good person? Like, like, how does that not? How
• 1:35:56
  does that jive with not holding Jezebel to an external standard of virtue? And
• 1:36:00
  like the worst manifestel is that I suspect there are parts of her brain that
• 1:36:12
  don't speak to other parts of her brain. Yeah, like, there there
• 1:36:18
  are, there's there there might be parts that we will never hear because they
• 1:36:24
  just they don't necessarily only have the lips like from three point thirty pm to
• 1:36:29
  four fifteen, And she doesn't actually show that, you know, Like it's
• 1:36:33
  just just like this patchwork of different things going on, like different squirrely nests
• 1:36:39
  of ideas that don't really cohes because she manages to she manages to contradict herself
• 1:36:47
  more than Hannah Cox, like she yeah, I mean all this, I
• 1:36:55
  don't want to have to do anything with men, but I still want them
• 1:36:58
  to treat me a nice and we live in a in a society that hates
• 1:37:02
  just hates women, but men still treat women better than other men. Like,
• 1:37:08
  is this like your brain on late stage feminism? Like is this like
• 1:37:15
  is this like what is it stage four feminism? Like the brain has been
• 1:37:20
  completely replaced with talking points? Yeah, it triggered, yeah, and self
• 1:37:28
  serving bullshit. It's just like a it's just a slew, like a warm
• 1:37:34
  sort of sewer water paste of self serving bullshit and a bunch of little clusters
• 1:37:39
  of talking points. And that's her brain. Yeah yeah, I mean like
• 1:37:45
  after listening to that, I know that like everything that she says is just
• 1:37:48
  like she sees words as nothing more than tools. It's not about sharing ideas,
• 1:37:54
  is there, it's about justifying her her behaviors. No, there just
• 1:37:58
  seems to be an ID. I think that's it. She's all ID.
• 1:38:04
  I think my dog has more moral development. Yeah, with just enough ego
• 1:38:13
  to like justify her ID behavior. I think like she just wants what she
• 1:38:16
  wants. She wants to live the style she wants. She doesn't care what
• 1:38:20
  she has to say to justify it. She doesn't care about being contradictory,
• 1:38:25
  she doesn't care about being a hypocrite. Doesn't matter if any of it's logical.
• 1:38:30
  She can just be like, I'm Catholic and then I'm a bad Catholic.
• 1:38:33
  Actually, Catholicism is all about sinning. It's the right vibe is basically
• 1:38:39
  being anti that thing that I just said I was while also claiming to be
• 1:38:43
  against it and being all about Jezebel and Lilith and the worship of the self,
• 1:38:47
  but totally Catholic eyes. And it's normal for you to do that because
• 1:38:50
  we're all human, right anyway, I want that bag. All sexisms exist,
• 1:38:57
  and they're in all dimensions. So it's like, oh, okay,
• 1:39:00
  so you're just saying what you need to say, to get what you want.
• 1:39:01
  You're like a child playing word games. You know. You're like she's
• 1:39:06
  say about how she's just gonna do something completely separate from men, and yet
• 1:39:12
  she's still yeah, she's also just gonna be like, yeah, we don't
• 1:39:15
  need men, Actually yeah you need there, but I'll take their benevolent sexism.
• 1:39:21
  But it's still sexism. But too bad. You can't detach the benevolent
• 1:39:26
  sexism from men and somehow have it. Yeah, you know, like separate
• 1:39:31
  from men, so she doesn't have to deal with men directly. This is
• 1:39:34
  such spaghetti, Okay, Like I said, the worst thing about her is
• 1:39:42
  is there a there there? Like? Is there? If? Is there
• 1:39:46
  a singular kind of consciousness striving for anything in that is there? Is she
• 1:39:57
  so poisoned by self excuses that there is no self for her? Yeah,
• 1:40:10
  well there could only be the self because that's like same, there is no
• 1:40:15
  sense like, Okay, there's a thing with like, for example, borderline
• 1:40:20
  personality disordered individuals. They have a really weak sense of self, so they
• 1:40:27
  have a weak sense of who they are and a weak sense of how their
• 1:40:31
  actions impact the world around them. I'm wondering if she has been so marinated
• 1:40:36
  with excuse making that she has no sense of herself at all, So she
• 1:40:43
  has no real sense of an identity. She's actually gone from you know,
• 1:40:46
  taking an identity, from what you might consider an ego to what you said,
• 1:40:50
  basically pure d Yeah, and that is just all she is is her
• 1:40:56
  impulses in the moment. So everything positive is her impulses in the moment.
• 1:41:00
  Everything negative is anything that opposes them in the moment, right, So that's
• 1:41:05
  that is her reality. It's actually, honestly, could that be considered a
• 1:41:11
  form of child abuse? Stunting a person's social development to the point where they
• 1:41:17
  have no sense of morality outside of their own personal impulses. Think about it,
• 1:41:23
  because that's basically stunting them into a state of infancy. Yeah, like
• 1:41:28
  she's she's not learning how to grow. Mm hmm. It's honestly, and
• 1:41:36
  allan I think about it, it's really freaking sad. Yeah, she is
• 1:41:43
  pretty sad. I agree. No, I mean just just genuinely, good
• 1:41:47
  God, it's like watching a damaged puppy. Okay, let's keep going.
• 1:41:56
  Well, perhaps she'll do something so horrible it becomes amusing. Well, what's
• 1:42:01
  the next clip? Then the last one women's life start. Oh boy,
• 1:42:05
  here we go. All right. You see if I got any super chats
• 1:42:11
  or anything superchiws. Richard Pierre gave us a super child. Let me see
• 1:42:15
  if it's in my thing. I think I got it a little while ago.
• 1:42:21
  I just want to look at it really quick. Oh yeah, here
• 1:42:24
  it is. He gave us five bucks, thank you, and says she
• 1:42:29
  has a bit where she mentions female deity worshiping people's in Polynesian Asian islands that
• 1:42:33
  has the utopian existence until the Christian missionary showed up and usurped their religion.
• 1:42:39
  Well, if it was utopian, they wouldn't have been usurped. Yeah,
• 1:42:45
  but yeah, Richard said earlier. This kind of sort of an overview.
• 1:42:49
  She has an interesting take on the concept of monogamy has been developed as being
• 1:42:54
  developed by the church and competition. Oh yeah, yeah. Monogamy existed during
• 1:42:59
  the Roman Empire and also Republican also in Greece, and that monogamy has a
• 1:43:04
  result as a result contributed to the lower testosterone levels in men, thus making
• 1:43:10
  them more civilized. Because apparently in the goddess worship cultures that may have been
• 1:43:15
  female led cultures, apparently the polygamist harems were the normal thing, and it
• 1:43:18
  may have been more of a tournament mating model. However, I do wonder
• 1:43:21
  just how many women were actually comfortable with the sharing of a male versus having
• 1:43:26
  a partner exclusively to herself. Of course, the in the comedy movie Eric
• 1:43:31
  the Viking, Ah, Eric the Viking is such a great movie. There
• 1:43:35
  is a trope where the village Blacksmith wouldn't go away with the warriors and rating
• 1:43:40
  journeys and would be servicing all of the women while the warriors were away.
• 1:43:44
  So essentially one of the things that I think she did was she proposed that
• 1:43:49
  the church created monogamy to civilize men. It's oppression. That's a feminist that's
• 1:43:56
  a feminist argument too. I can see if I can try to locate more
• 1:44:00
  on that. Okay, Palynesian, Hello, could you prease? Should I
• 1:44:12
  play this clip while you're looking? Or play the clip? I basically her
• 1:44:15
  life started when she had an official, legal religious affiliation with a man.
• 1:44:20
  And obviously a lot of women were so upset by that statement, and rightly
• 1:44:26
  so, Like what do you mean why life begins when she marries a man?
• 1:44:30
  Like what? So does that mean? Like? Women aren't living life
• 1:44:35
  before marriage, like give me a break. And it's so you know,
• 1:44:40
  it's funny because they would probably make the argument that men's life begins when they
• 1:44:44
  get married too, but men aren't upset by that. Yeah, but here's
• 1:44:47
  the thing. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna stell your life hasn't begun because
• 1:44:53
  you have absolutely no standard external standard. It doesn't matter if it's a man
• 1:44:58
  or if it's God. Is she going to be doing this when she's like
• 1:45:00
  seventy, She's gonna be making manifestel videos on like you know, a hologram
• 1:45:06
  or whatever the technology is going to be, and she's still going to be
• 1:45:10
  like trying to get that bag. I guess that's a life. How does
• 1:45:15
  okay, if the men have the bag manifestel and you're trying to get it,
• 1:45:19
  then doesn't your life begin when you get that bag, when you have
• 1:45:24
  that benevolent sexism, when you get it spooged all over you? Like?
• 1:45:29
  Does that? Is that not where your life begins? Because you have you
• 1:45:32
  are, in fact also centering your life around getting something from men, right,
• 1:45:39
  just apparently not an external standard to live up to. Yep. And
• 1:45:44
  this is the thing, like where are where is women's sense of the others
• 1:45:49
  supposed to come from if it isn't from men. So when we say that
• 1:45:55
  men, women don't start to live until they're in a relationship with a man,
• 1:46:00
  And I honestly say, that's one hundred percent right, And I don't
• 1:46:02
  care if the Catholic nuns clap back on that. It's one hundred percent right
• 1:46:08
  because the only other that men women have are men. The only true external
• 1:46:15
  standard that women can be held to has to be based on men. And
• 1:46:23
  if you want to develop that aspect of your sense of self, that sense
• 1:46:26
  of I can better the world, I can become more productive, I can
• 1:46:32
  become stronger, I can choose my actions to serve something outside myself. Then
• 1:46:40
  it's got to be men. Got to submit to something outside yourself or you
• 1:46:46
  are an eternal infant seeking sources of worship. Yeah, what a fricking nightmare.
• 1:46:56
  What a nightmare? Life like? This a nightmare of life like having
• 1:47:00
  a very weak sense of self, of having a very weak sense of your
• 1:47:05
  ability to affect positive change around you through your actions. Like what the hell?
• 1:47:13
  What is the point of a life like that? Like, what is
• 1:47:15
  the point of your life? Manifest? Though, do you have a point
• 1:47:19
  to it. Yeah, well, okay, do you have a purpose,
• 1:47:27
  do you have a calling? Do you have something that you're trying to live
• 1:47:30
  up to? Do you have a star to She just wants She just wants
• 1:47:34
  to be comfortable. Your boat, you're a ship. By no, I
• 1:47:39
  think that's it. She's looking for comfort. She's probably somebody that would actually
• 1:47:44
  be willing to share a man with lots of other women if the man was
• 1:47:48
  high value enough and gave her what she wanted. Essentially, she doesn't actually
• 1:47:54
  want love. Funny though, because he gave that speech at a Catholic university
• 1:48:00
  run by nuns, unmarried educated women who gave their life in service to God
• 1:48:05
  and others around them. Like service to God? Well, yeah, nuns
• 1:48:10
  married the church. That's they're not unmarried, they're married to the church.
• 1:48:15
  Like again, I'm a Catholic, but I don't understand how any of this
• 1:48:19
  works. And and there's a you know, I again, I don't know
• 1:48:24
  what the nuns had to say, but I think that they're wrong, and
• 1:48:26
  I think it's stupid that they got upset. So so you mean their life
• 1:48:30
  hasn't started yet, what, Well, they haven't. Actually, their life
• 1:48:38
  did start because they married the church, like I said, it did.
• 1:48:43
  That's that's it. That the nuns sponsoring that Catholic college clapp back like you
• 1:48:49
  know, it's cut back. Oh, she's just happy that they that they
• 1:48:55
  I wish that they hadn't said that. Can you the way that she says
• 1:48:58
  clap back? Uh, yeah, Cawtholic College clop back like you oh,
• 1:49:05
  clap back? What the hell? I don't know why her affectation is so
• 1:49:10
  freaking annoying to me. You know, she reminds me of I watched a
• 1:49:15
  movie, so you're talking about we're talking about old movies. I watched Heathers
• 1:49:21
  with uh with with Lindsay. You ever seen Heathers with Christian Slater came out
• 1:49:27
  in the eighties. Christian Slater, what was her name? Shannon Doherty was
• 1:49:32
  in it. She was from nine o two one to zero nine two.
• 1:49:35
  Oh and uh the chick that was in like Beetlejuice, I can't remember her
• 1:49:40
  name. You're kind of moving off to off frame house and she'd come in.
• 1:49:44
  Yeah like that, that's good. And yeah, Heathers came out Winona
• 1:49:49
  Ryder, thank you. Heathers came out. I think it was eighty nine
• 1:49:53
  I don't know, but it was, uh the way it was basically like
• 1:49:58
  a mean girl's movie, you know, but it was about these extremely like
• 1:50:03
  privilege and snobby girls that were part of like the elite kind of social club.
• 1:50:10
  And there was one that was really trying to like fit in, but
• 1:50:13
  she and she was trying to be friends, but she hated these chicks and
• 1:50:15
  she wanted them to die. And so like she meets this bad boy and
• 1:50:19
  they start essentially killing people and making it look like a suicide. But then
• 1:50:24
  the suicides get celebrated because oh my god, it was so hard for them
• 1:50:28
  and like nothing's working out. It's it's a black comedy. It's very it's
• 1:50:32
  pretty black. But this her affectations reminds me of the Heathers or the mean
• 1:50:38
  girls from the movie Mean Girls or Jawbreakers or fucking you know what's another one
• 1:50:45
  of these kinds of movies with like the uh, the mean girl characters in
• 1:50:48
  them. But yeah, anyway, okay, so that's the same intonation is
• 1:50:57
  Heathers. That's what she sounds like. And they're terrible women. They're terrible
• 1:51:04
  Okay, So I can I found something on the whole thing about monogamy but
• 1:51:12
  I will read it, okay, I'm not going to because it's going to
• 1:51:15
  take a while in this mess to find it. Okay. In particular,
• 1:51:21
  Christians associated jezebe Okay, then we'd already read that, and modern uses the
• 1:51:26
  name of Jezebel. Sometimes he uses a synonymon for since next sexually promiscuous or
• 1:51:30
  controlling women, and the church wasn't just controlling women, it was also controlling
• 1:51:33
  men. Duh. It is a freaking religion. It is a system by
• 1:51:41
  which you frame the relationship between men and women for the benefit of both.
• 1:51:47
  Like the consequence is that weird marriage, which of course what they mean by
• 1:51:54
  weird is the weird cultures are Northern European and they have a very different relationship
• 1:52:00
  to marriage. So they married later, they have fewer children, and they
• 1:52:04
  tend to be more they tend to be very like a more individualistic, and
• 1:52:12
  their families are smaller. So Southern Europe tends to marry younger, have bigger
• 1:52:17
  families, and that includes all the way around the world. In Joseph Hendrix,
• 1:52:23
  the Weirdest people in the world, how Westerners became psychologically peculiar and peculiarly
• 1:52:28
  prosperous. He writes, monogamous norms suppressed testosterone at a societal level by prohibiting
• 1:52:33
  higher status men from monopolizing potential wives. Monogamous norms allow many more lower status
• 1:52:40
  men to both get married paramond and father children, and the consequences that weird
• 1:52:47
  marriage, which of course is built out of Christian marriage, generates a peculiar
• 1:52:51
  endocrinology. It is widely believed by physicians that testosterone naturally declines as men age.
• 1:52:58
  In the twenty first century United States, these drops are so severe that
• 1:53:00
  some middle aged men are treated medically for low tea. But as I've explained,
• 1:53:05
  across societies possessing more human typical marriage institutions, oh, for the love
• 1:53:11
  of God, they are not more human typical polygamy. Polygyny isn't practiced by
• 1:53:19
  the majority of people in societies where it's considered acceptable. It's only considered acceptable
• 1:53:26
  for like the top one percent of men. We don't see these disclines as
• 1:53:30
  often, and when we do, they aren't nearly as steep as in weird
• 1:53:32
  societies. Okay, there are a lot of contributing factors aside from monogamy to
• 1:53:38
  the decline in testosterone. It seems that a weird endocrinology accompanies weird psychology.
• 1:53:44
  I've spent some time on testosterone. I don't think this can't possibly be her.
• 1:53:50
  She must be quoting someone I spent some time on testosterone to delineate just
• 1:53:56
  one biological pathway that institutions have of alved to explain as a mechanism to influence
• 1:54:00
  our behavior motivations. Oh, I spent some time on testosterone. So she's
• 1:54:05
  saying she's talked about testosterone as a way that institutions have evolved to exploit as
• 1:54:13
  a mechanism to influence our behavior, motivations and decision making. Here you'll be
• 1:54:16
  seeing how the church, through the institution of monogous marriage, reached down and
• 1:54:20
  grabbed men by their testicles. I mean, Okay, this is wild.
• 1:54:25
  This is her. Probably, he goes on to write based on work in
• 1:54:28
  weird societies, men with higher testosterone levels are more likely to be arrested,
• 1:54:31
  deal and stolen property, fall into debt, use weapons in a fight.
• 1:54:35
  They're also more likely to smoke, abuse substances, drink heavily, gamble,
• 1:54:39
  and engage in dangerous activities. I would like to see that actual research,
• 1:54:45
  because it sounds like it's a lot of motivated reasoning. So research I've seen
• 1:54:48
  is that testosterone promotes status seeking, pro social status seeking, whatever that means
• 1:54:57
  in the community that you're a part of. If you are in a in
• 1:55:00
  population, violence gets you status. If you are in an artistic population,
• 1:55:06
  you know, having the most deft watercolors gets you status, et cetera,
• 1:55:11
  et cetera. You know, so men seek status, they and as pro
• 1:55:15
  socially as possible wherever they can get it. But I don't know, I'd
• 1:55:20
  have to look at the stats with this. Yeah, the studies on this.
• 1:55:26
  Testosterone is associated with measures of dominance in both teenagers and adults. And
• 1:55:30
  there's a weak but persistent relationship between testosterone and violent aggression no, including domestic
• 1:55:38
  violence. No, No, there's an association between status seeking testosterone and where
• 1:55:44
  status requires violence, people with higher levels of testosterone will engage in it.
• 1:55:50
  But that's very conditional. Basically, the vibe is monogamy, and all these
• 1:55:56
  Catholic constraints on men's sexuality were created to lower men's stosterone so that they would
• 1:56:00
  become more peaceful, less likely to commit crime, less likely to be violent
• 1:56:04
  against each other and violent against women. Okay, but let's let's let's let's
• 1:56:10
  assume that's true. M hm. She's advocating for a move away from Catholicism
• 1:56:15
  and monogamy towards what violence and copmetician violence against women and crime. Okay,
• 1:56:29
  so she wants men. She wants to men to kill each other and then
• 1:56:35
  the winners to essentially make women happy and comfortable and give them stuff. But
• 1:56:39
  they're not going to do that. The winners are just going to decide.
• 1:56:43
  No, I know, but that's what she that's what she seems to want.
• 1:56:45
  She doesn't have. Again, she lives in a bubble like if she
• 1:56:49
  wants this kind of a system, like, so she thinks that polygamy or
• 1:56:56
  poly a polygynis system will be better. She would rather, she would rather
• 1:57:01
  share a high high value man with other women than have a midman for herself.
• 1:57:09
  Yeah, but that doesn't necessarily mean she's going to be sharing that man.
• 1:57:13
  Because the thing with polygynis society is, and what they don't tell you
• 1:57:16
  is, yeah, sure there's a bunch of women sharing a high value man,
• 1:57:20
  but there's also a lot of women who are doing the shit jobs as
• 1:57:26
  well. Yeah, but she doesn't care about that. She doesn't think that's
• 1:57:28
  going to be her really, Yeah, she doesn't think that. No,
• 1:57:31
  she's she's she obviously thinks that she's an extremely high value woman. I don't
• 1:57:41
  like, honestly, I don't when we're talking about polygyny. The thing with
• 1:57:45
  it is that when you're dealing with like a really heavily polygynis society, a
• 1:57:50
  lot of women aren't having relationships either. Like, yeah, well she doesn't
• 1:57:57
  see it that way. I mean, I'm sure that's true, but you
• 1:58:00
  know, you're talking about manifestel like she's actually considered all these factors when the
• 1:58:05
  only thing she seems to want is like what she wants. She's materialistic,
• 1:58:10
  she's shallow, she's egocentric. She doesn't obviously have the mental capacity to understand
• 1:58:17
  what the consequences of what she desires is. She just wants what she wants.
• 1:58:23
  She's literally a spoiled child. Isn't that like her whole Isn't that her
• 1:58:28
  whole channel? Isn't it called like spoiled girly or something? I mean,
• 1:58:30
  she's telling you what she is like. It's by mandating monogamy, access to
• 1:58:35
  women was expanded to more men that even the lowest status of men have a
• 1:58:40
  chance of having a wife, and so men in their violent urges are pacified
• 1:58:44
  by women's bodies and labor. Do you notice that the way it's worded is
• 1:58:47
  that men. There are men in different status groups, but then there's just
• 1:58:51
  women as a group. Yeah, like, no, there are no low
• 1:58:54
  status women. No, they're all high status. They are all goddesses,
• 1:58:58
  they're all tends. It's giving, they're handed we're handed out like blankies to
• 1:59:03
  these men. Like they're like, oprah, you get a blanky. You
• 1:59:06
  get a blanky. Everybody gets a blanky. Anyway, it was so successful
• 1:59:10
  though, because men's violence and risk taking went down and men actually stayed and
• 1:59:14
  parented. Oh good grief. Okay, so what do you think happens in
• 1:59:21
  harems societies? Like, honestly, I think monogamous societies may be more productive
• 1:59:31
  because women aren't in a harem sitting on their fucking asses doing nothing. They're
• 1:59:38
  actually, for example, uh, farm wife running a farm instead of a
• 1:59:45
  harem girl sitting on silk and getting head from a eunuch. Like, yeah,
• 1:59:54
  okay, no that's what happened. No, I'm sure, I'm sure
• 1:59:58
  it is like that. Maybe that's why these societies were more productive and peaceful
• 2:00:03
  because they weren't constantly warring over over resources because they had more because the women
• 2:00:11
  were actually working too, They were actually doing something. And maybe that's why
• 2:00:16
  the Bible makes a very specific point in saying that the good woman is productive.
• 2:00:26
  She she works to better her family and her community. You know,
• 2:00:31
  she makes good business deals. She creates good cloth for sale, and she
• 2:00:39
  makes sure that her cloth is you know, the goods that she creates.
• 2:00:43
  Amusing cloth as an example, she makes sure that it has a high thread
• 2:00:45
  count and is beneficial to the people who buy it. You know, she's
• 2:00:49
  a good she's a good business woman and an honorable business woman that the Bible
• 2:00:56
  very explicitly makes a point of staying this monogamy. Plus, you know,
• 2:01:00
  women should go out and provide for their communities as well. Maybe that's why
• 2:01:05
  these societies are more peaceful, because everybody is working instead of sitting on their
• 2:01:11
  ass in a harem conniving about how to how to kill people to get more
• 2:01:15
  power. Okay, I'm just saying there to that, ah, Okay,
• 2:01:26
  And so essentially what she's saying is polygamy or monogamy came about because women were
• 2:01:31
  handed to men. Yeah, and then because they they Well, honestly,
• 2:01:39
  that really doesn't explain why male societies in which there are more men are more
• 2:01:45
  peaceful. You'd think that if you had fewer men would be less because more
• 2:01:51
  men would have access to women. But no, actually, societies with more
• 2:01:56
  men are more more peaceful, more prosperous, and more productive. So there
• 2:02:01
  you go. I don't know does that work with this. I think someone
• 2:02:06
  took an idea and just went really far into the motivated reasoning or motivated rationalizations.
• 2:02:13
  Okay, that's why weird societies aka Western educated, industrial, rich,
• 2:02:17
  and democratic societies are particularly prosperous. I don't think that this is registering as
• 2:02:26
  a concept. Yes, Western societies are particularly prosperous because of monogamy, Okay,
• 2:02:33
  because men in those societies were may not be now very very productive.
• 2:02:41
  And part of the reason why, probably a big part, is because they
• 2:02:45
  had the possibility of having a family. All right, Okay, now let's
• 2:02:53
  project this into the future. Why do you assume that the productivity and comfort
• 2:03:00
  that you enjoy is going to continue when we destroy the pillars upon which it
• 2:03:06
  rests manifestel And incidentally, when it hits you, it's probably gonna hit you
• 2:03:14
  like she looks like she's maybe in her twenties. It's probably going to hit
• 2:03:19
  you when you're in your sixties, Like, do you really think that you're
• 2:03:25
  going to be anything to a warlord at that point? No, Like,
• 2:03:32
  your best bet, Manifestel, is to shut up and start supporting monogamy so
• 2:03:40
  that you can enjoy a prosperous society into your old age. Yep, but
• 2:03:46
  that's not what you're doing. For whatever reason, You're advocating goddess worship,
• 2:03:54
  polygamy, violence against women, and a return to chaos, even though that
• 2:04:00
  return to chaos realistically will hit just when you have the least amount of sexual
• 2:04:09
  value. All right, mm hmm, self destructive. My name is Manifestel.
• 2:04:19
  Okay, I think that's it. Yeah, let's let's see if there's
• 2:04:25
  okay. No, I played all the clips. That was all of them,
• 2:04:29
  So let me see. Is there any other super chows or give out
• 2:04:34
  all over the places? Just like Hannah Cox? You know, I think
• 2:04:40
  that I think Hannah Cox is less disturbing because I do think she has some
• 2:04:46
  kind of an external standard, even if it's a career like something outside of
• 2:04:51
  herself that she tries to maintain. I don't know, how the hell does
• 2:04:57
  Manifestell support herself. She gets that bag from men, you know, or
• 2:05:02
  she's a hypocrite and she's not. Actually, none of the stuff that she
• 2:05:05
  preaches is stuff that she lives by, which is also entirely possible. So
• 2:05:11
  yeah, I guess that makes her an even better catholic. Mm hmm.
• 2:05:16
  All right, okay, Okay, I think that's I think that's good for
• 2:05:20
  today. I mean, really, it has to be. Yeah, I
• 2:05:26
  just want to point out that again, misogyny that they're trying to make illegal,
• 2:05:30
  the Green Party in the in the UK is going to make illegal is
• 2:05:32
  basically just holding women to a standard. And what I found really amusing about
• 2:05:38
  Manifestel's very, very long rant is that she seems to have a real problem
• 2:05:44
  with holding women to any kind of standards, even when she recognizes that holding
• 2:05:47
  women to a standard of monogamy is what has generated all of the prosperity that
• 2:05:54
  we enjoy. So she does she can she not make the final connection like
• 2:06:02
  that, you know, society is it is actually critical to maintaining society to
• 2:06:09
  hold women to some kind of standard. And also, that's really what I
• 2:06:11
  think he was talking about. I mean, he's doing this in a way
• 2:06:15
  that's very very normy. I'm gonna use the Yeah, it's total of approach.
• 2:06:21
  I mean, he hasn't. I'm sure that he's really blue pilled and
• 2:06:25
  everything, but like, yeah, he's again. His wife's life started when
• 2:06:31
  she developed an external standard to live by, and that is one percent true.
• 2:06:38
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• 2:08:03
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• 2:08:48
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