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Stealzy | The Christian Reeve Podcast | #25 | · The Christian Reeve Podcast

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  Boom. Hello and welcome to another
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  episode of Christian Reeve experience.
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  I was going to say experience, okay, where does that come from?
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  I wonder probably my love of Jimi Hendrix.
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  No, welcome back to the Christian.
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  We've podcast another episode annoying, not just any episode,
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  actually, this is the 25th episode, 25, of course, and You
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  know, it's funny because I'll get on to why coz as here for
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  the second time, obviously, as you guys know, I always like to
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  have guests on the podcast again, if anything, it works
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  better because of the first time we have our podcast.
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  It's very almost like formulaic because it's an interview and
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  you want to try and get across who the person is first and
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  foremost. But I mean to be in fairness
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  though, our first podcast did kind of go into the weeds and we
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  got through quite a few topics. Yes.
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  More than 24 hours. But yeah like it's something
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  that I really really like to do and I wanted to kind of try and
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  do something special for the 25th episode or have like a
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  special guest or something. I don't know.
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  And we you got one. No this is this is what I'm
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  thinking actually it's kind of is a good thing that it's you
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  for various reasons. I mean first, the first of all,
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  I had a guest today that I was supposed to have on the podcast
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  and Unfortunately, for whatever reason, they're not able to do
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  it, they haven't spoken to me yet.
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  We're not going to be unprofessional and be like, oh,
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  screw this person something, because, ya know, obviously,
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  right? And, and people always have
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  reasons for why things happen. It's just just how it is its
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  life. And, but it's funny because I
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  contacted you and you and I said, hey do you want to be on
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  it? This is going to be a special
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  episode. You said yes, and you're doing
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  me a solid. As a friend, so there's that
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  stinky. But also like when I sat down
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  and I thought about that for a second while I was sorting
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  everything out. I was like, and yeah, this is
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  the same guy who, you know, made this big donation to me which
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  I'm never going to stop talking about.
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  I'm going to be singing your Praises till the end of time
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  because the thing is like it to me it's more about the money and
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  the investment in what I do. It's like someone saying, hey, I
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  believe in what you're doing, keep doing it here.
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  He's my kind of support for that sends that to me means the world
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  because I don't hear that often with this podcast.
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  Yeah I get a few comments here and there but ultimately I'm
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  just kind of Relying on some sort of belief in myself but you
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  know, it's getting better and better.
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  We even had our first hate comment the other day.
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  So I saw that I saw that was good, you know, I find it funny
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  as well because I sat there and I tried to think, okay, because
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  this is, this is my rule. If someone is rude, if someone
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  is is just an asshole, then I won't reply, right.
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  But if they make genuine constructive criticism, I'll
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  take it on board and I'll probably thank them and K a nice
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  one but this person was dropping the F-bomb and just being you
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  know, jerk but I still took into what consideration what they
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  said because they basically said and I'm putting this in the nice
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  friendly way. Yeah.
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  His. Yeah.
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  You know how about letting this person talk?
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  You know, this will be the last time I listened and I thought
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  about that. I was like, well, that's a
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  shame. I mean on one hand, I don't care
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  that. I'm using that person if how
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  they are. But also, yeah, I don't want to
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  lose people. All because of an inability to
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  allow people to talk because that would make me a bad
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  interviewer about hosts. Yeah.
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  Funny funnily enough my fans taught us told me the same after
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  our pot one of my fans oh, oh yeah.
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  Because one of one of my friends said the exact same to me after
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  our podcast, he said, why are you never letting Christian
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  talk? You're always interrupting him.
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  Why? And I was just like, I don't
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  know, I didn't take changing that.
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  I always interrupted him, but it's kind of always It's also
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  kind of the way I talk. I don't know, I, I have, I like
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  conversations where you can just fall into each other's words,
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  when you have something constructive, to say to their
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  sentence, that they're saying right there, and then I don't
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  have a problem with people interrupting me, for example,
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  most of the time yet, for me, I only tend to interrupt if
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  there's a particular thing that I'm trying to push with them to
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  get out of them but not in a kind of like, like I don't care
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  what they have to say. Let's say that we're talking
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  about a big topic like I don't know what was something bit.
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  Okay. Let's say we're talking about
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  coronavirus. Just for argument's sake.
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  Yeah. And then you start talking about
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  something related to that but I see an opportunity to ask you
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  about something. That's like I think is more
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  important. I might what I might sort of do
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  is interrupt your very briefly apologize and say, hey what
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  about this? And then nine times out of ten.
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  I probably Circle back to the thing that you were saying
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  anyway, or a lot of time. I'm if the guests really badly
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  wants to say that, then they'll bring it up again.
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  And I just won't say anything. The second time, I'll let them
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  speak. So, this is kind of what I find,
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  interesting, especially with that podcast with, it was good
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  at the Murray, was her name. She spoke a lot.
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  I spoke a lot. I just find it interesting.
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  I was really trying to sit there and be like, it does.
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  This person have a point? Do I speak too much?
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  Do I not like my guest speaker? I'm thinking, like, really like
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  trying to think like, mmm. Of course, this gets to you
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  obviously minaya. I mean it doesn't like I don't
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  take it personally, I couldn't I couldn't care less.
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  I've had much worse said to me, but like, purely from being
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  professional. Because you know, like I said
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  that first episode, I want it to be a really good, you know?
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  I'm gonna put this introduction to the person.
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  I'm trying to go over. I want it to be purely about
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  them. Yes.
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  In this, in the second and follow-up episodes.
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  It doesn't matter so much because you already know who the
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  person is, you know, if someone would be like, who I don't want
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  to hear you talk Christian. It's like well you know if you
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  really want to hear all about the person and not hear me speak
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  very much then go watch the first episode, right?
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  Yeah. But then in follow-up episodes.
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  It's like like you said, it's is a It's back.
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  Yes, you know and in the end it's your podcast as well.
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  So I mean when someone says oh Christian I don't want to hear
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  you then you can just say hey good.
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  Okay. Go to another podcast.
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  I don't care if you don't like me then this is not the podcast
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  for you. I guess.
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  It's as a someone payments, My Stream and said, dude you look
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  ugly. I don't want to look at you.
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  Yes. Why are you here then?
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  What is your point is? He's like I can point there,
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  isn't it? I get comments like that
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  sometimes too. And I'm just like, yeah, just
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  don't, don't watch then, I don't know what to say to you.
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  Yes, there's so much on the internet, so much content, just
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  just go somewhere else and you can search for better content
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  because I believe in that I believe in every person should
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  always go to the best content that suits them and not just any
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  content that maybe the algorithms throws, I've liked
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  them or they just find or anything.
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  You should always just look for Content that you love and then
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  stay there obviously. It's interesting.
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  You say that as well, because I was speaking to my friend today.
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  Shout out to birdie about this and I think she took, she kind
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  of assumed that I took it to heart and I'm like, no, I'm just
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  genuinely, like I thought this was funny.
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  Like I thought you might find it interesting kind of thing
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  because I get a lot of shit from various places, when I try to do
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  something a bit left field so I can as an example.
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  And my glass guess my previous guests before this one was a
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  professional wrestler, right? And Sadly, I stopped plugging
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  myself on Reddit because one pretty much everyone that would
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  come and check me out would do the same annoying thing of like
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  subscribing to me and then being like, hey can you sub that?
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  So basically sub4sub and then I will, yeah, I wouldn't do
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  anything because I'm there to purely promote myself in the in
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  the subreddits, you know, just just yeah and it's kind of a
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  silly idea purely from the from the logic of You know, everyone
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  is kind of going there for the same reason.
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  No one is really there to watch each other's content.
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  Therefore it's you know pointless.
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  Yeah, exactly. If what can you do with the
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  subs? If they don't watch you it's
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  exactly why I think buying Subs are stuff.
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  Like that is the bad worst idea you can have company because
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  it's in the end you have a high number.
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  Yeah, cool. Okay great.
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  You can you can jerk your ego with that?
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  I don't, I don't know, but in the end it doesn't do anything
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  for you because those are I don't know.
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  Bots or whatever. It's not genuine.
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  And I won't watch your content because they're probably.
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  Yeah, they probably only wanted your sub.
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  So it's true as well especially if you do really well on YouTube
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  in the future or twitch or ever, you know, you won't be genuine.
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  It's like the equivalent of like buying grades in a test paper.
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  It's like, sure. You got what you needed, but you
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  didn't do it, you know? Yes, with any.
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  I don't say onyx. That's not quite the right word.
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  But like you know what? The honor but yeah.
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  Anyway yes with the subreddit so I basically I went into like
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  wrestling only subreddits and I posted about this guy and then I
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  was reminded why? For instance I don't do content
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  on wrestling because it's a really toxic community band
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  base. Yeah.
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  And it's stupid because it's essentially people just arguing
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  over opinions like which I guess you can say is the same for
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  most. Most fan base, has to be honest
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  these days but I don't know what it is because I've been a fan
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  since I was a kid and I've only noticed this kind of toxicity in
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  the last, like, 10 years or so, but it does seem to be prevalent
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  everywhere. It's like if you share any kind
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  of an opinion, people just shit all over you.
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  And it's like it's just an opinion.
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  Exactly. And and and many many people
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  these Don't understand that opinion that some opinions can
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  just live next to each other. There are opinions that maybe
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  contradict each other but you can lift totally fine.
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  If, if half of the population has the one opinion and the
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  other half has the other opinion.
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  And in the end, I don't know what people.
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  Why people don't understand democracy, but it's if more than
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  half of the population, says something.
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  Then yeah, we should probably go with that because that's the
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  best that we have these there today.
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  I watched a wonderful video today.
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  Out the end of Metal Gear Solid 2 which is an old game 2002, I
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  think 2001 and they're the AI that gave Raiden the commands
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  and everything told him that they want to censor everything
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  and they want to censor everything because human
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  evolution is held back by fake news.
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  And that's why there should be an AI that has no feelings, that
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  monitors, everything that gets into the internet and into the
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  into the Population from from like a perspective, that's good
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  or bad and obviously that's that's like there's very good
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  deus. Ex machina know it how is the
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  house to do X machine? I don't you mean yeah yeah
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  there's there's like another game and that game as well has
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  the same thing. We're also an AI is there and it
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  wants to censor censor bad things that don't bring the
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  humanity forward but I don't know.
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  In the end, everybody should have the opportunity.
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  Say whatever they want. I got to say, I do kind of agree
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  with you because I hear a lot of people the pushback I get.
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  When I say that is that people like, oh well, you shouldn't be
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  allowed to say whatever the hell you want and it's like, well,
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  okay, those are there is a big difference between like saying
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  what you want to say versus doing what you want to do, you
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  know what I mean? It's like, like just saying
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  something, it's not nice, but it's not going to like actually
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  hurt you. Like yes, physically.
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  Yeah, yeah. Right at all.
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  Stop you. I mean people can make the
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  argument oh yeah. Well you know it's very damaging
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  words are very damaging true but what actions are ahead of a lot
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  more damaging, you know you like and I feel like it's a slippery
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  slope with this whole censorship thing because it is it's like
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  when you start saying people can and cannot say certain things
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  that line between what's acceptable and what's not
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  acceptable. Couldn't can be taken to the
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  extreme and the government. Has a very messed up way of
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  handling this stuff and it that I feel like the only damage that
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  the problems you cannot see the problems when you're in the
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  thick of it. So like people right now are
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  thinking this is good for society, right?
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  And I get what they, what they're trying to achieve, but
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  what they don't realize is that what they're saying?
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  Now is allowing the government to kind of you know, put forward
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  something far more extreme that they wouldn't Exactly.
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  Because it's because these people, these people always are
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  just on the same side as long as it's not them, who get her
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  getting damaged. Of course, the whole left side
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  of the political Spectrum right now says, oh yeah, we should
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  definitely ban everything that is kind of racist or kind of
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  right-wing or whatever. But then, if in 50 years, the
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  whole landscape shifts and then all of a sudden, the left is,
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  the is the ours, then all of a sudden.
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  They're like, oh no, censorship no, no way.
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  We shouldn't do that, right? It's always just the /, the
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  people that obviously get a benefit from, it are always on
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  the side of the censorship. But then again, if you allow
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  censorship, once you should allow censorship and any point,
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  and, but if you get hit by it, then then obviously you cannot,
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  you cannot like, say that it's bad.
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  That doesn't work, you don't get your cake and had wait, you
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  don't get your cake and have to eat it too, or however that
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  goes. Coming back exactly how you say
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  the same. But yeah, I know what you mean.
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  I mean, I always think of that the more literal sense of like,
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  you know, like sometimes you go to certain places, like tout.
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  Like I remember that when this place that I was growing up,
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  there will always be like, a particular spot where you'd have
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  like a crazy preacher Who You'd walk past and they'd always be
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  shouting. Something like like, okay, like
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  let's say I'm with my mom and I'm like, 5 years old.
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  And the guys like you're going to hell, you hear that, you both
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  do your home. And you talk devil chart and
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  it's like what right? What do you want from me?
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  Right, and it's ridiculous and everyone's like, oh he shouldn't
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  be allowed to be there, but the thing is him does shouting that
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  it's not nice. But again, like we were saying
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  before, he doesn't have some lasting detrimental effect.
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  If anything, most people just laugh at them or like filming
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  and stuff and that's kind of how I feel about the internet to.
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  It's like people say, horrible shit all the time and plus the
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  internet is like this thing where A lot of the stuff people
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  say they would never have the balls to say in real life.
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  Ever of course. Yes.
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  And I just feel like it's percent.
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  Its anonymity, right? Yeah.
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  And I just I don't know. I kind of feel like I don't
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  know, I'm kind of losing my but I think it's just all Bs, I
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  don't know. I try not to get too consumed in
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  it. I try and adjust because there
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  is a big difference as well between what you see online and
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  then just everyday life. Like, for example, how often do
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  you really meet like a racist, for example, in real life?
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  No, not very often. Do you know what I mean?
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  It's like, maybe, maybe, maybe you don't notice how often you
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  meet them because race is can't obviously say These days, right?
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  But you don't go to a person say, oh, I hate foreigners by
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  the way. Hello, you know, you can't do
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  that, but anybody, but if you go to someone and say, oh, I hate
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  racists, that were like, I hate, I don't know.
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  I love communism. Then obviously.
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  It's like, oh yeah. Well I guess that's okay.
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  Like, you could take out your morale check marks and you're
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  like, Ugh, communism. Okay and yeah.
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  On the right. Yeah, that that works.
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  I like you. The interesting thing I've
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  noticed that Actually, on this point about people like races.
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  So people that, you know, as you say a kind of like trying to
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  hide their actual beliefs, I've noticed so many occasions where
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  you get someone who's coming into.
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  Like, let's say it's like a all lad situational blokes maybe on
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  a building site, or something like that.
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  And you got someone who comes in and cut their like, testing the
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  waters, they're like, okay yes. So they'll throw something out
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  there and it will always be negative it below.
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  Yeah, these Buddy, you know, insert your comment here kind of
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  thing and then they're kind of just trying to see what
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  everyone's reactions are. And if everyone is just like, oh
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  yeah, yeah. Then they're like our great.
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  Yes. He's like my yeah.
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  This is, this is my chance to just go nuts but then if
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  everyone's just like oh no, that's terrible.
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  Then that person just shut up and just be quiet.
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  Exactly. Yes, seen this so many times.
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  It's so funny as well. I just, I just talked to someone
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  on the phone today. Because I'm on the search for a
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  new apartment right now. Cool.
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  Yeah. Because I want to, I want to
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  move again and I think I found one but mock space, right?
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  I need more space. Yes.
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  Extremely little bit, but the best thing about the apartment
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  that I found right now is it's cheaper than what I have right
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  now and it's bigger. So Rainer, no-brainer did like,
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  Father out of city or something. Like what?
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  No, it's literally like two streets.
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  Two streets away. Oh, damn.
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  Well, what It works very well, exactly.
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  But I talked to you to some guys who rent out Apartments today
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  like like a woman and I was like, oh yeah, do you have glass
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  fiber there? And she's like, nah.
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  I don't know, but but if the Turkish people start working it,
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  and it's probably gonna be ready until like three days and I was
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  like, what did teach what you just said, but but it's like, I
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  live in Hamburg, right? So, I don't know, it's like
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  rights on the east of us is like, We're East Germany starts
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  and like the notion is that East Germans are more racist than
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  West Germans and that was where I was supposed to phoning and I
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  was just like, what is this? She's just she's just demeaning
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  Turkish people right now, what the fuck?
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  Because I don't necessarily I don't, I don't normally have
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  something like that, right? I don't just talk to people and
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  they talk about other races and demeaning ways especially not a
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  Germany because I mean yeah you can obviously do that.
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  But Them that was that was a shocker for me after.
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  I was like just talking to her and after I stop the stop, the
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  talk. I was like, what did she just
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  say it? Watch it.
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  Jesus saying I was like 10 minutes of huh?
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  I had this with that landlord one time where we were just
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  chatting and then they just said like about certain types of
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  people they wouldn't have as tenants and they mentioned like
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  certain race. Isis.
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  And I was just standing there like uncomfortable, like not
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  knowing what to say, because I'm not going to agree with this
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  person. But exact same time, I'm just
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  like and I was like her, so you've had some trouble huh?
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  And she's like, yeah. And I was just like, that's what
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  it boils down most of the time, right?
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  Where is yes. Like a sweeping generalization?
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  It's like, oh, I don't like everyone from this particular
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  place because this one time. Someone screwed me and now I
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  just hate them all. Yes.
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  Yes, the only thing that that makes it kind of why I kind of
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  understand that guy is because he has to have a business,
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  right? And if you had a very bad
• 20:52
  experience with one person at once you try to categorize them
• 20:55
  into a category so you don't have that big bed experience
• 20:59
  again. So I understand that on a
• 21:00
  business point but necessarily as a human, it's like kind of a
• 21:04
  scummy thing, I had the same thing with, with a restaurant
• 21:07
  owner for that. I worked, she was just like, oh,
• 21:11
  yeah, no. I don't serve Arabs.
• 21:12
  If Arabs come in here, I put, I get them out of here.
• 21:17
  They don't serve address. Yeah.
• 21:19
  And I was like, I was 14 or 15 at the time and I was like, okay
• 21:25
  let me, let me just get this. Get this straight right now.
• 21:29
  No Arabs. OK.
• 21:31
  I guess what's the worst job you've ever had the worst job?
• 21:36
  I had a lot of jobs but the worst job it was probably at
• 21:39
  that restaurant. I was just cleaning English has.
• 21:42
  So if I ever been, if I will ever be a millionaire, it will
• 21:45
  be dishwasher to millionaire. Isn't that great?
• 21:49
  That's that's great. But no, that was probably the
• 21:51
  worst job. I had a few jobs, I was store
• 21:55
  clerk but that wasn't too bad. I was certainly twice.
• 21:58
  I had delivery jobs twice once for a pot to carry and ones for
• 22:04
  a pizza place and now I'm a technician and obviously, that's
• 22:09
  that's kind of chill. So yeah, I I probably have that
• 22:12
  restaurant especially because the woman for that I've worked
• 22:16
  was, I don't know psychotic or something.
• 22:19
  She was, she was the worst. She was just sometimes she
• 22:22
  exploded just out of nowhere. It was so weird.
• 22:26
  She fired me because I put these things that you put under beers
• 22:30
  right? These I think I put that under
• 22:34
  wine and then she was like, oh she don't do that.
• 22:37
  Oh why do I do that? You're fired and I was like, oh
• 22:40
  damn. Really?
• 22:41
  Okay, dude on the spot to see ya on the spot just fired that was
• 22:45
  it. Wow it's so weird if I think
• 22:48
  back about it but yeah she before she had that I did
• 22:54
  research on her and before she had that restaurant she was the
• 22:58
  owner and owner of a house. You call it brothel?
• 23:04
  Yes, that's it. So yeah, that was that was
• 23:08
  something but that was the first job I ever had as well.
• 23:12
  Well, one day or like I said before that, I did one day of of
• 23:19
  delivering newspapers, but it was raining like cats and dogs
• 23:25
  on that day and I never did that again.
• 23:28
  Okay. I gotta I gotta push you for
• 23:30
  more on this so what may, At the worst job ever.
• 23:33
  It's like eyesight because I think as I've worked in, I've
• 23:37
  never had like one single bad job but I've had various things
• 23:42
  about different jobs, that sucked.
• 23:44
  Yeah, but then I've also wash dishes as well.
• 23:48
  I've been there, it's monotonous.
• 23:50
  Mind-numbing. Soul-destroying work.
• 23:55
  But yeah. Like tell us some stories.
• 23:57
  Tell us why it was so white so bad.
• 23:59
  I mean there's days always certain The things about.
• 24:02
  So, yeah, customer service style jobs that make them bad.
• 24:06
  I mean, I mean, it's basically the, the monotony, the monotony
• 24:10
  that you're already talked about because, you know how I am,
• 24:14
  right? I need I need like some space
• 24:16
  man. I need to be creative and stuff
• 24:19
  and then just washing dishes and with this like with this machine
• 24:23
  that big thing where you just put down that and then watches,
• 24:26
  but, and basically the other half was her, it was her.
• 24:30
  She was, she was just a wish. Stood so crazy.
• 24:34
  It was so crazy, but I, but I only did it for the, I guess for
• 24:38
  the money, I got like, 50 bill every evening and then I went
• 24:42
  off and bought some weed. I love that.
• 24:46
  Whenever whenever I say that to people about like, oh what what?
• 24:49
  Yeah, why did you do that job? And then I'm like, yeah, for the
• 24:52
  money and I just think about the money was peanuts.
• 24:54
  It was less. It was what for the money.
• 24:57
  Why the fuck did I do that? But it's true.
• 24:59
  It's like you got not many options when before you're
• 25:01
  qualified. I'd yes.
• 25:03
  And sometimes even when you're qualified, I mean, I've said
• 25:05
  this, a million bazillion times but like, you know, I got a
• 25:08
  degree in three years experience, in my field and the
• 25:11
  most I can find right now as freelance work on and on.
• 25:16
  Yeah, I know, I could like hop quite happily into a customer
• 25:19
  service job right now, but I just don't have it in me to go
• 25:24
  back to that. I did it for so long and it was
• 25:28
  just it's all you always. I got to ask you the question.
• 25:34
  How much your time is worth for you?
• 25:35
  Yes right. Would I pay someone else?
• 25:38
  The exact same amount of money for that work?
• 25:41
  If you if you would then? Yeah.
• 25:43
  It's a good job. I guess or wait.
• 25:45
  Yes, yes. You you always it's like how
• 25:49
  much worth, how much is your time worth to you?
• 25:51
  And how much is the work worth to you?
• 25:53
  And you always gotta do, you always gotta check that?
• 25:56
  This is one thing. That always amazes me when I
• 25:58
  worked in customer service was that like, you would meet People
• 26:02
  who were trained in that environment and would want to do
• 26:08
  those jobs right now. Don't get me wrong, I'm not
• 26:13
  trying to share on it. I can see certain appeals of
• 26:15
  certain things, you know, like putting on major event.
• 26:18
  Like if you're like a hotel manager or a chain manager or
• 26:23
  something like and you've worked your way up.
• 26:24
  I can see the appeal of that, right?
• 26:26
  I get that. Yeah but what I we couldn't get
• 26:30
  is the people that are working Say three to five years, solidly
• 26:35
  as like a waiter and they're struggling to become, you know,
• 26:40
  like a manager or something and they love it.
• 26:44
  And I'm and the thing is, I'm doing the exact same job as them
• 26:46
  and okay. Yeah, I don't love the job,
• 26:48
  right? So, fair enough, we're going to
• 26:50
  see it differently but they're doing still doing a lot of stuff
• 26:53
  that sucks. Like for instance, you know,
• 26:57
  having people talk to them, like they're nothing, you know?
• 27:00
  Because if you work in customer service, This people do talk to
• 27:03
  you like, utter shit. Yeah, yeah.
• 27:06
  And it's like, so they put up with the same things that I do
• 27:11
  and the long hours that, you know, turn into ridiculous,
• 27:14
  because there's so much that, you know, isn't in contracts
• 27:18
  that isn't spoken about, it's like, yeah, it says that you're
• 27:20
  supposed to work, say, 10 hours a day, but in actuality, you're
• 27:24
  going to be working with 15 to 17 hours a day out of this kind
• 27:28
  of peer pressure thing of like, yeah, you couldn't, you can work
• 27:31
  a job. Purely by the contracts and what
• 27:33
  it says in the contract that you'll get fired.
• 27:35
  Pretty quick. Yeah.
• 27:36
  Yeah. And it won't, it won't be like a
• 27:39
  they'll do it legally, but they do it in a way where they can
• 27:42
  get rid of you and just make up some nonsense about why you're
• 27:46
  fired. But basically, it's because
• 27:47
  you're not willing to just work yourself to death, so you have
• 27:53
  to love that job and I just, I just can't wrap my brains around
• 27:58
  why they love that. I mean the only thing I can
• 28:01
  think of Is that there just so hell-bent on getting to that top
• 28:05
  level that they can put up with the day-to-day stuff but I meant
• 28:10
  I met genuine people that were like 20 years older than me.
• 28:14
  Who absolutely loved serving people.
• 28:18
  Yeah I just didn't get it. Like I get I get the
• 28:22
  satisfaction of like serving a bunch of people and making them
• 28:26
  happy like that happened to me loads of times and it's great.
• 28:29
  I love that but that to me was not Enough to like Warren all of
• 28:35
  the shit that I had to put up. Yeah, I don't know you.
• 28:40
  I think I think you learned to get to get on with it, right?
• 28:44
  You just learn to phase that out.
• 28:46
  If someone it's like this is Zen kind of, kind of state.
• 28:51
  I talked about that with my friends.
• 28:53
  If someone gives us shit, we were just like, oh my God.
• 28:56
  That guy is so sad. What is going on with him?
• 29:00
  Because if someone gives you shit, it's Obviously not because
• 29:02
  they hate you. But because there's something
• 29:05
  wrong in their lives. It dude, you say that, right?
• 29:12
  But I could think of so many times And again, I'm not I have
• 29:21
  nothing against customer service.
• 29:22
  I'm not looking down my nose at it was something I worked in it
• 29:25
  for many years. So believe me.
• 29:27
  I can talk about this freely, to be honest.
• 29:32
  All right, I dealt with a little bit of like, people will be the
• 29:38
  word when you're like, looking down your nose at people that
• 29:41
  people beneath you. I don't know that kind of
• 29:43
  attitude. Yeah.
• 29:45
  Yeah. Like snobby.
• 29:47
  Okay, so I dealt with that snobbish, kind of attitude from
• 29:50
  a young age in my first, proper job.
• 29:52
  From, at the age of 18, I worked in a supermarket for three
• 29:55
  years, belt, and snails, right same, but then through the
• 30:00
  years, I had various different jobs, different places.
• 30:04
  And when I was at University, I worked for about close to two
• 30:09
  years in this hotel, as a waiter and bartender and everything
• 30:15
  else in between. And for me, that environment was
• 30:19
  the worst environment I ever worked in as far as customers
• 30:23
  accident. Because only that right?
• 30:27
  Because what I always hurt here from from hotel employees is
• 30:31
  that, it's like the worst job ever.
• 30:33
  You have to work so much and you get so much shit and you're
• 30:37
  never good, right? Because because you're always
• 30:39
  not doing everything 100% ride or something.
• 30:42
  I mean, that is probably one of the hardest jobs.
• 30:44
  I can I can imagine You're not in Alaska crab fishing.
• 30:49
  Sure. Yeah, there's always something
• 30:51
  worse. But boys, be honest with you.
• 30:53
  I could put up with like managers never being happy
• 30:56
  enough and because there was a lot of camaraderie camaraderie
• 30:59
  between people and like there was a lot of things that would
• 31:02
  just help you get through and there was things to be enjoyed.
• 31:06
  I mean, for instance, I loved being a bartender that was great
• 31:12
  and like, put, you know, putting on major events making everyone
• 31:14
  happy. I mean fucking I did like Beings
• 31:17
  and yeah parties New Year's Christmas you name it.
• 31:21
  I did it. I think that being bobbing about
• 31:24
  tenor as a really good job, it's actually fun.
• 31:27
  Yeah. And and weirdly people respect
• 31:29
  you because we're exactly people treat waiters like shit.
• 31:32
  But if you're a bartender somehow you you're like up in
• 31:35
  the totem pole and you have some sort of respect from from from
• 31:39
  them. For some I guess it's because of
• 31:41
  the knowledge of alcohol somehow gives you some Prestige but
• 31:45
  anyway Think you're a psychologist as well.
• 31:49
  Yeah, I guess. But I mean, a lot of the time
• 31:52
  you don't have the fucking time to.
• 31:55
  I mean, what I know, I guess if you're purely a bartender.
• 31:58
  Yes. And it's a bar like a bar is
• 32:01
  because the thing is, like, I worked in bars that were like,
• 32:05
  you know, part of, you know, part of a restaurant part of a
• 32:08
  lounge area, like, you have to do so much other stuff aside
• 32:11
  from just serving the bar. It's very rare that you actually
• 32:13
  just serving drinks and that's it.
• 32:16
  Like I'd be so many days. I can remember where there's
• 32:18
  like, Are people there and I've got to like serve coffee.
• 32:23
  Basically, I'd have to like make the coffee myself.
• 32:25
  Then serve the coffee. Make the drinks myself.
• 32:28
  Then serve the drinks. Sometimes, even make the food
• 32:31
  myself and then serve the phone guys.
• 32:32
  Yeah, that's a lot. It's ridiculous.
• 32:36
  But, you know, it happens and I got on with it and I made the
• 32:40
  most of it but like, I don't know, I just for me I could do
• 32:48
  all of that I could get through all of that.
• 32:50
  It was fine. But like whenever maybe it was
• 32:53
  just a self-esteem issue, but when I was at University, At
• 32:58
  least initially because the first part of the time my
• 33:01
  working there, I was, you know, do it was in my third year of
• 33:06
  University or middle of second year into third year and just
• 33:10
  doing this work, right? So just getting on with it and
• 33:14
  it's fine and like whenever I'd have a bad day I've been at
• 33:17
  always fine. And you know I've got Unis, fuck
• 33:20
  this job kind of thing, right? But then when I graduated, I was
• 33:26
  already by that point, I was already basically full-time.
• 33:28
  Like, I never signed a full-time contract but they treated me
• 33:31
  like a full-time member of staff.
• 33:33
  I was there longer than like, more than the full-time staff
• 33:36
  were. I was basically fought on and I
• 33:41
  was like shit man. Like, whenever the customers
• 33:45
  would like, you know, be shitty with me, or look down their
• 33:49
  noses at me or make comments. A lot of the time, I can let it
• 33:53
  go. But when I was in that
• 33:54
  particular position, I started thinking to myself, like, damn,
• 33:58
  I may be there right? Like, you know, because because
• 34:01
  they don't think you're intelligent people will
• 34:02
  automatically assume yes. Yeah.
• 34:04
  If you work in customer service, you're not intelligent because
• 34:06
  the yes. And the thing is, I challenge
• 34:09
  this to an extent because yes, it is a low skilled job but it's
• 34:15
  not easy. You know, I've, I've met people,
• 34:18
  I like super intelligent, like, you know, scientists Who cannot
• 34:22
  do that job like they just oh, no, definitely not.
• 34:26
  Is it had it had you have to have emotional intelligence,
• 34:30
  right? But like there's other things
• 34:33
  you need to be able to do as well.
• 34:34
  It's not just being able to, like control your nerves or
• 34:37
  whatever, but like, you know, being able to multitask being
• 34:41
  able to plan ahead. There's a lot of things you have
• 34:46
  to learn. I don't know why I was good at
• 34:49
  it. I think, I just worked really
• 34:51
  hard. Didn't.
• 34:53
  Somehow I was good at working in teams.
• 34:55
  I've always been good at working in teams.
• 34:56
  Okay, that's good. That's very good but like ya
• 35:01
  know it basically my point with this because I'm going into the
• 35:04
  weeds a bit, it would get to a point where it was just like the
• 35:09
  words would get to me from customers or the attitudes, or
• 35:12
  the way they would look at me or like because they think that you
• 35:16
  they cut they think that you can't hear And it's like, no,
• 35:19
  you we can hear everything you're saying and it just got to
• 35:23
  me. And I remember when I quit that
• 35:25
  job, I was so relieved. Quit like it was.
• 35:30
  I felt like a massive weight had been lifted over and don't get
• 35:33
  me wrong. The hotel I worked at is a good
• 35:36
  hotel you know nothing against the people I worked with or
• 35:41
  anything like that. It's just you know anyone that's
• 35:43
  worked there that's work with me.
• 35:45
  Knows what it's like even that is still working there or has
• 35:49
  The, you know, they know how tough it is and flank y'all can
• 35:53
  be and everything in between and I'm sure everyone can like who's
• 35:58
  ever worked in customer service can relate to this that you
• 36:00
  know, 100%. Yeah.
• 36:02
  People while they will talk to you like you're nothing and I
• 36:07
  don't know, it just kind of got to me and then when I started
• 36:11
  working in marketing eventually when I moved abroad, I started
• 36:14
  working in that field. It didn't feel like work like if
• 36:18
  Thing I laugh when I have to do like marketing work because I'm
• 36:21
  like, man there was a day when I was working like 16 hour days
• 36:25
  back-to-back and like never having any time for myself.
• 36:28
  And now, all I do is sit by a computer for eight hours a day,
• 36:32
  and just write some stuff for, like, look at some statistics
• 36:36
  and reports. Yeah.
• 36:38
  And that's it. And I get paid triple or double
• 36:42
  what someone in customer service will get paid, and I might, this
• 36:45
  is just nuts. Mhm, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 36:49
  It's weird like how I never understood how people decide on
• 36:53
  how much a certain job gets or not?
• 36:56
  Or how that crystallized. It's very weird because there's
• 37:00
  such hard jobs, that get paid nothing and then there's just
• 37:04
  jobs where you're basically having one idea month or
• 37:08
  something like that and you get paid so much, write some
• 37:12
  marketers. They they they do one campaign
• 37:14
  every month for like Adidas or something.
• 37:17
  And then you get Get 100K and then you're gone.
• 37:21
  Then you're then you don't do anything anymore for a year or
• 37:23
  something. I can't believe businesses, the
• 37:27
  on like, and I know it's business.
• 37:31
  So but before people destroy me in the comments or destroy this,
• 37:34
  when they hear this, wherever you're listening to the podcast,
• 37:38
  I know that it's because of business.
• 37:40
  But still, if you're a massive Empire chain, whatever it like
• 37:45
  your company, you know, is doing very well like very high profit
• 37:51
  margins but you're paying your staff minimum wage, right?
• 37:58
  I just feel like it's very Embarrassing.
• 38:02
  It's like let's take a big company like I don't know it's a
• 38:12
  good example. Not Google Google's not a good
• 38:15
  example for that. No I'm just I'm trying to think
• 38:17
  of like a customer's fuck. Yeah I was actually thinking of
• 38:20
  that but yeah you've brought up so yeah Jeff Bezos is a
• 38:24
  billionaire. He's the richest man alive.
• 38:27
  It's the richest man alive and his staff.
• 38:30
  His staff get treated like dogs. Like it's just a little shit.
• 38:34
  The base for not a robot. You're definitely less.
• 38:37
  And that's that's the that's the problem.
• 38:39
  It's like they get paid nothing, they get fired like that every
• 38:43
  second, you know, if you can't hack it gone.
• 38:45
  And I saw that I saw that attitude, in places that I've
• 38:49
  worked, you know, I remember when I worked in in in
• 38:53
  supermarkets even though Hotel had that a bit of that
• 38:57
  mentality, it was like, oh, if you can't hack, it will just
• 39:00
  find someone to replace you and yeah, it's kind of true that
• 39:03
  that does keep happening. It's like, you know, you work
• 39:05
  there for a while, you learn how it really is.
• 39:08
  And then there's a Crossroads either you going to put up with
• 39:10
  it and just get on with it or you're going to quit and someone
• 39:14
  else to take your position, heart life.
• 39:20
  It is Angus me and especially that they don't get paid enough.
• 39:23
  I mean it's like one of the reasons that you have to work so
• 39:28
  many hours is just to make ends meet and it's like you just end
• 39:33
  up not having a life like Like damn, like when I was at Uni in
• 39:40
  the third year there was a point where I was literally working
• 39:43
  like 50 or 60 hours a week plus going to University.
• 39:48
  So I would be like, I'd only have a couple of lessons a week,
• 39:52
  couple of seminars. I ended up having to not go to
• 39:55
  my lectures because I needed to work and it was so because the
• 40:01
  lectures just want useful, but the seminars were so there's a
• 40:03
  little tip, yes for people, because a lot of the time in
• 40:07
  lectures, they just cover what's in the textbooks.
• 40:09
  It's like what's the point of this?
• 40:11
  And I can't do it either. Like I sleep.
• 40:14
  I wish in 45 minutes or 90 minutes II.
• 40:17
  Can't do that, hmm. Sorry, we just keep having
• 40:21
  internet problems here in the yeah.
• 40:24
  Yeah, I mean like for me it got very tricky because I will
• 40:31
  basically never have any time where I was just resting it
• 40:35
  would be like I would do. I would wake up in the morning
• 40:39
  six or seven laps earlier, go work from like 7:00 in the
• 40:43
  morning, till 9:00 at night, 10:00 at night, and then I would
• 40:48
  go straight to the library. After that, and just off study
• 40:55
  for 45 hours and I was fucked. I don't know how I got through
• 40:58
  that and didn't die, right? Just mad, but you're not going
• 41:04
  to be like, for me and next week, either, whenever you move,
• 41:06
  you have like internet for no internet for three weeks,
• 41:10
  something like that, it's bad. Yeah, this this is incredibly
• 41:15
  frustrating. Actually, it's insane.
• 41:19
  I get so angry at it. Whenever I was streaming and I
• 41:23
  don't know, a little bit worse, internet connection that I have
• 41:26
  right now and my stream constantly just cut out.
• 41:30
  I would I would get so angry. It would ruin my, a see that the
• 41:36
  frustrating part about this is that Normally, I don't have to
• 41:42
  do pretty much any editing but now because this is fucking up.
• 41:45
  I'm gonna have to do loads of editing and its really annoying.
• 41:48
  Yeah, and the thing is, what people don't realize is when you
• 41:51
  do a podcast. I mean, when you're when you're
• 41:56
  actually just doing the editing of the the whole podcast, it's
• 42:01
  usually pretty straightforward. You just you know, because I've
• 42:05
  managed to root out the sound problems now.
• 42:07
  So there isn't any sound issues. It's all pretty.
• 42:10
  You know, straight forward as far as that's concerned.
• 42:14
  But if there are issues like what we're having now with
• 42:18
  internet cutting in and out, I'll have to clip this up.
• 42:21
  Edit it up, put it together. Yeah.
• 42:25
  And people would be like, oh well, that's just part of it,
• 42:27
  right? But the thing is, for instance,
• 42:28
  I'm doing Clips right now where I'm going back.
• 42:32
  Yeah, I saw that right. Listening to the entire episode
• 42:36
  cutting it up and it's like you have no idea how long this takes
• 42:40
  Because firstly, oh, I do, I do. I just started doing YouTube
• 42:46
  videos for weeks ago or five weeks ago again, one video a
• 42:51
  week. I can barely do that.
• 42:53
  I mean, it's crazy. I don't understand how people
• 42:56
  can upload a video a day like spaz.
• 42:59
  It's doing it since a I couldn't do that.
• 43:02
  I cut my videos for all week. What is that?
• 43:06
  This is the thing like I I've been I've done what spaz is
• 43:11
  doing but like it I think it's different.
• 43:14
  If you're clipping it in advance, like for instance,
• 43:16
  right now you'll see that I'm uploading that three or four
• 43:18
  times a day, right? And the only reason that that's
• 43:21
  happening is because I've spent ages on a particular day editing
• 43:27
  and clipping stuff and then scheduling ahead.
• 43:29
  So that's how I do that. They people.
• 43:31
  Yeah, but there are people like spouse who record on the day
• 43:34
  every day. And I've done that too, and
• 43:38
  that's a lot more thankless. Especially if you do editing and
• 43:41
  stuff and you know, like your, I don't know.
• 43:44
  Let's say it's like a reaction video or something like that.
• 43:48
  They take so much time and effort goes into it, and it's
• 43:52
  the same with this podcast. Like the whole time I'm sitting
• 43:54
  there thinking, like, I need staff, I need fucking a team of
• 43:58
  people kind of my language, but it's yeah, really it and the
• 44:03
  thing is, there's so many different things you have to
• 44:04
  think about like when I listen to Episodes and thinking like
• 44:08
  well what do people what would people would be interested in
• 44:11
  what's an interesting clip? You know I've got the time I'm
• 44:15
  going for like stories. I'm like okay.
• 44:16
  What's an interesting story that the person says or something?
• 44:21
  Interesting, they say because just here in someone go like our
• 44:24
  this is what I do on YouTube. This is what I do.
• 44:27
  Blah blah blah like that's not interesting if they tell
• 44:29
  something that's like kind of out there, I don't know.
• 44:33
  So for instance, today, I was going Back and clipping.
• 44:37
  This guy called, Martin couldn't glasses and Estonian musician
• 44:40
  round. We had an interview together and
• 44:43
  so like my whole thought process was like okay I should clip
• 44:47
  anything that he says directly about the band or so like for
• 44:52
  instance it'd be like his thoughts on the band's sound or
• 44:56
  you know his thoughts on I mean album the upcoming album.
• 44:59
  What? Yeah just shit like that and I'm
• 45:01
  thinking but like sometimes it'll be like our this
• 45:03
  interesting little story or anecdote and Other times like I
• 45:06
  got to the end and, you know, I've been listening to this
• 45:09
  podcast for like 15 minutes in and I'm like should I do clips
• 45:14
  for the final 10 minutes, 15 minutes?
• 45:17
  Because there were extra clips I could have done but I'm like
• 45:19
  I've already clipped a lot of the episode already and it's
• 45:23
  like you've got it, I guess save some stuff to keep the Allure of
• 45:29
  12 like, you know, listen to the podcast or yes, I think you
• 45:32
  should. You should clip up at Max to 10.
• 45:35
  R2 things out of our of every podcast.
• 45:38
  But yeah, but then the most the most important parts for them is
• 45:43
  that that that is kind of what I'm saying is like this
• 45:46
  difficult to know because it's just me, it's just my opinion.
• 45:52
  I could be wrong but it's also your podcast and your channel,
• 45:56
  right. You you decide what you would
• 45:59
  you give people to see? It's just that easy.
• 46:02
  I'm literally just doing the clips to draw interest.
• 46:06
  You know like the idea being yes you know everyone else does
• 46:09
  clips and I don't normally just do things because other people
• 46:12
  are doing in but I've tried it with things like twitch and
• 46:16
  there's like an audience for that and it's it's logical to
• 46:19
  me. It was like okay if people
• 46:22
  listen to the clips eclipse is short there, anything from like
• 46:25
  a minute to three minutes, five minutes or maybe longer.
• 46:30
  But it's much more digestible than oh shit there's a
• 46:32
  three-hour podcast or I don't want to sit there.
• 46:34
  Yes, that's right. I mean I mean I came to Joe
• 46:37
  Rogan through the clips that he's doing right on his in a
• 46:40
  separate Channel and and again I wanted to talk.
• 46:43
  I wanted to talk to you about that II, really think you
• 46:46
  should, you should make a singular channel for your
• 46:48
  podcast. And then another, for all the
• 46:50
  shenanigans that you're doing, like the Pokemon, let's play and
• 46:55
  the velox and the acting and stuff.
• 46:57
  So, here's the thing because I think the podcast is just so
• 47:00
  different to everything else that you're doing and it can
• 47:03
  draw in a whole different City of people, as you know what I
• 47:07
  mean, is the thing from day one? My main channel has always been
• 47:12
  about. This is a variety Channel, okay?
• 47:16
  And that will always be the case.
• 47:17
  However, the more and more that I do this podcast and the more
• 47:22
  time I see that goes into an everything, I'm like, the
• 47:26
  podcast will pretty much dominate this channel, right?
• 47:29
  That I can see, it's already been cultured because you're
• 47:32
  great at it. Well thank you, I don't know
• 47:34
  about that. That's Up For Debate. 84.
• 47:36
  No, no don't say something like that.
• 47:38
  Just take these. It's still early days and it's
• 47:45
  still very much shaping or being shaped.
• 47:50
  But, you know, I thought about what you've said, I've, I've
• 47:53
  have sat there and thought should I make a second channel?
• 47:55
  Should I do this? Because I have a second Channel.
• 47:58
  Yes, and my second Channel, I don't talk about it much because
• 48:02
  it's just, you know, IA. I don't plug myself, Put myself
• 48:06
  in the sense that I post on social media and stuff like
• 48:08
  that, but I never say, like, subscribe to this, do this do
• 48:10
  that, like, people make up their own minds and that's how I
• 48:13
  always wanted to be. What, well, I did that the last
• 48:17
  few days everyone that I know I went to and said, subscribe to
• 48:20
  my channel. Let's go watch my videos.
• 48:23
  Come on because I don't know, it's just, it's obviously it's
• 48:26
  Shameless self-advertising and everything, but why not do it?
• 48:30
  If you are, it's it's the thing that that shaped my perception
• 48:35
  on these things. When someone said, if you think
• 48:37
  you're making good content, it may be that you can bring
• 48:40
  something to the life of other people then self advertising it
• 48:44
  by the good content that you're doing.
• 48:47
  I already self advertised you know the mean I mean if you
• 48:50
  follow me on social media I advertised everywhere.
• 48:54
  Like if people and the thing is about subscribing just because
• 48:57
  someone's telling you to subscribe, doesn't mean you're
• 48:59
  going to want to subscribe. I mean there's people that I
• 49:01
  listen to you, sometimes, whenever they do there, do they
• 49:06
  You know, their episodes and they say Please Subscribe.
• 49:08
  It's like dude you have like fucking 2 million subscribers.
• 49:12
  You need to do, you can never have enough, whatever I disagree
• 49:18
  on this. I just I'll never be like that.
• 49:20
  You'll never catch me doing that same but But I get it.
• 49:24
  Yeah, three years ago I was the same but in the end you just
• 49:29
  need to. You just need to see.
• 49:30
  I don't know if you want to make it somewhere.
• 49:33
  Obviously you could also say that advertising so bad and so
• 49:38
  boring and it's shit. But obviously you need to do it
• 49:40
  because you need to get the word out, right?
• 49:42
  You need to get the word out because people don't find you
• 49:45
  like that, you need to advertise because it in, even a Eva notty
• 49:49
  does and Coca-Cola where you where you think that these those
• 49:53
  Companies are known by everyone. As far as I know, Coca-Cola had
• 49:58
  like a year where they tried out to do no advertising.
• 50:01
  And this, Same. It's it's just you gotta get
• 50:07
  yourself out in the world because people don't won't find
• 50:12
  you like that. You know, I am and I do I do it
• 50:15
  to the nth degree. I just I just can't bring myself
• 50:18
  to like utter those words to just turn around and be like,
• 50:21
  hey guys, please do this. Please.
• 50:23
  Okay, please. Okay, but let me do it.
• 50:26
  Okay, guys. You need to subscribe to
• 50:28
  Christian, Reeves, podcast and his and his channel.
• 50:31
  OK. And follow him on social.
• 50:33
  As well go to his social medias and follow those.
• 50:37
  Okay. Great.
• 50:38
  Since we got that out of the way we can we can just discuss
• 50:41
  something else. It was great.
• 50:43
  Yeah it started cutting out when you said that and I'm gonna have
• 50:49
  to go through this about a million times and edit this.
• 50:52
  This is going to be such a headache.
• 50:54
  Fuck sake. Yeah.
• 50:56
  Anyway dude, it's fine. I don't enjoy making content.
• 51:01
  So I mean editing is just another thing that At that.
• 51:04
  Yeah, but this, this isn't, this isn't editing.
• 51:06
  This, this is like every five seconds, it cuts out, and it's
• 51:10
  just me staring and, and nothing's happening.
• 51:12
  So I'm literally going to have to go back through this and
• 51:15
  every time it does that edit it out as.
• 51:20
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 51:21
  Because like editing, there's a difference to me between actual
• 51:24
  editing, right? Was clever and interesting and
• 51:27
  then filtering out mistakes. Let's call it that filtering
• 51:31
  out. Shit basically.
• 51:34
  And there's no reason for the internet's, not be working.
• 51:37
  Shit happens. There's like basically no one in
• 51:38
  my house. No one using the internet.
• 51:41
  No issues. What's the problem?
• 51:44
  Why not working internet, but boxer.
• 51:46
  But again, like, like a, like I already told you, I feel you on
• 51:50
  that one, 100%, I get so frustrated when something
• 51:55
  doesn't work the way it should, but not only with internet but
• 51:58
  if some, I don't know if some knife wouldn't cut through the
• 52:02
  thing that I want to cut. I would love to break the knife
• 52:06
  because it's not working it. Like it's supposed to be just
• 52:08
  going back to the thing about the clips and what your
• 52:12
  suggestions about what I should do with the channel.
• 52:16
  Here's my kind of reasoning. Like I did that let's play
• 52:19
  series like I recorded it. Or five months ago long time ago
• 52:27
  and I planned it ahead just to kind of give myself like a
• 52:31
  breathing space. Like okay, I have content coming
• 52:33
  out. So if there's time when I don't
• 52:34
  upload then whatever and then it just kind of happened that I
• 52:39
  started the podcast. I ended up uploading all the
• 52:42
  time. Yeah purely a just happened like
• 52:47
  this and and that I genuinely thought about like deleting the
• 52:51
  let's play series and not having it at all.
• 52:54
  And I was, I know, I'll see how it does.
• 52:56
  I'll see how it does but the reality is moving forward with
• 53:00
  the channel. I don't think you're going to
• 53:02
  see like reactions because a it takes a long time and be it's
• 53:08
  just I don't enjoy it that much. I would do it.
• 53:11
  If I was with someone and we're reacting together because I
• 53:15
  think that that's fun. That's interesting.
• 53:17
  Yeah, but if it's just me, I mean, the only time it was ever
• 53:22
  interesting to me was when I was Is reacting to my old music.
• 53:25
  That was kind of fun for me, but otherwise, yeah.
• 53:28
  And with gaming, I probably still will do it in the future,
• 53:33
  but probably not often. Like, I'm think I'm going to
• 53:35
  always save that for streaming. And again, we're streaming I
• 53:40
  have to have an audience. Yes.
• 53:41
  So that has to be built for YouTube, and then that will give
• 53:45
  me a reason to actually go on to it because there's just no point
• 53:48
  me streaming to no one but we've spread, okay, yeah, dude.
• 53:54
  In my opinion, it does. It shouldn't make, it should
• 53:56
  make a difference. If you're streaming 20 or a
• 53:59
  million people, it shouldn't did, you should always just have
• 54:04
  your I don't know you're entertaining grand jury.
• 54:10
  I can't believe I could be entertaining when there's no one
• 54:13
  there, dude. You're talking to a wall no
• 54:16
  matter what I mean. You're talking to a camera, no
• 54:18
  matter what. If you talk 20 people or a
• 54:20
  million people, it makes no difference in the end.
• 54:23
  It makes no difference. Difference, I think I mean, I
• 54:25
  mean, I think it's I've done so we're taking things so many
• 54:31
  streams. If you got my second Channel, I
• 54:34
  think I have like 60 70 something crazy like that.
• 54:39
  I mean, if people genuinely Miss, I said this to someone in
• 54:42
  my Discord today. Someone new joined.
• 54:44
  And they were like, yeah, I'm senior stream in a while.
• 54:45
  I was like, yeah, like until there's a demand for it.
• 54:50
  I didn't see the point. I mean, if people start saying
• 54:52
  like, hey, we want to see your stream up.
• 54:54
  Okay. Like come in and we'll do it
• 54:56
  right but there just isn't a demand for it and I'm just
• 55:00
  looking at like the things that there is a demand for more
• 55:04
  people enjoy. So moving forward, I can always
• 55:07
  do the acting on the always, do the music but it won't be like
• 55:13
  You know, it won't be loads and I think as time goes on like
• 55:17
  particularly when I get I managed to get a full-time job,
• 55:21
  it's going to be trickier. I'm going to I'm going to have
• 55:23
  to be, I'm probably gonna have to just work my ass off then but
• 55:27
  like you'll notice that they'll be less uploads less frequently.
• 55:32
  Yeah, but it's fine because they'll still be a lot on the
• 55:35
  channel but it'll probably just be like the podcast and in the
• 55:38
  occasional Vlog or acting or music, something like that.
• 55:43
  Yes. But you know but I'll always
• 55:46
  keep it going and obviously the goal is always, to be hope.
• 55:50
  So, right to be full-time. The more make my don't make my
• 55:53
  donation before. Even, you know, it won't it
• 56:01
  won't it won't, it won't be like that it because to me, it's a
• 56:07
  dream. I don't want to obviously do 925
• 56:09
  the rest of my life. So that's the main kind of
• 56:12
  driving force, Sam. I couldn't, I actually couldn't,
• 56:16
  I hate, I hate working. I absolutely hate working.
• 56:19
  You could say that streaming is working as well, and it
• 56:22
  certainly is, but it's a work that I would definitely do.
• 56:27
  Yeah, I don't think it is. I think it is different because
• 56:30
  you're doing what you enjoy. I mean that's the thing I work
• 56:34
  my ass off when it comes to YouTube and then sometimes I sit
• 56:38
  back and I realize I could damn I've been editing for like
• 56:42
  longer than I would work in a job.
• 56:44
  But I'm willing to do this because of the fact that I love
• 56:48
  what I do and I love putting out and seeing people's reactions to
• 56:52
  it and stuff. Whereas when I Like 8 to 10
• 56:57
  hours, or more in some job where I've got like a little bit of
• 57:01
  interest. It's like, very Like okay, like
• 57:05
  if they're marketing I'll go in first two or three hours, I'll
• 57:08
  get probably most of my work done anyway because it's just
• 57:11
  how I work and then I'll just be bored for the rest of the day
• 57:15
  because it's a case of like, I've got my work done.
• 57:18
  Now, I'm just trying to find work and it's, that's the worst
• 57:20
  thing about my job is, when you're trying to find yourself
• 57:23
  work, because you're basically saying to yourself, okay, we
• 57:26
  want to create work for ourselves and Unless you love
• 57:30
  what you do, you're never going to have that kind of attitude
• 57:33
  little time. We're gonna be like I want to
• 57:35
  get my work done so I can just chill.
• 57:37
  That's that's very early. Yeah, of course and in the end
• 57:41
  most people only work efficiently 20% of the time that
• 57:45
  they're at work. Right.
• 57:47
  Exactly. So it's I mean there's there's
• 57:50
  we definitely need a re whole of the whole working system, right?
• 57:55
  Google Google does a super job you can, when you come to Google
• 57:58
  and the Learning as an engineer, you can do whatever the fuck you
• 58:02
  want. As long as you are done with
• 58:03
  your tasks in the evening, you could just Where did like swim
• 58:11
  in their dedicated swimming pool or his his the issue with
• 58:15
  Google? Yeah.
• 58:17
  Google is not a career. Google is a cult Google is I
• 58:23
  don't know anything about that. It's a problem.
• 58:25
  Sounds weird. Yeah is weird.
• 58:27
  I've read stories from people who've worked there and it's
• 58:30
  like it's that sort of fucked thing where it's like that, you
• 58:35
  know, there's no diff, you know, split between work life and
• 58:40
  personal life. It's like they basically put all
• 58:42
  of this stuff there to kind of encourage you to stay there and
• 58:46
  like never leave and it's like no work should be work.
• 58:50
  You know what can be a big part of your life and be like you
• 58:53
  know, but I think you need to have time where you're not
• 58:56
  working, you're doing stuff that isn't like, you know, for
• 58:59
  instance, I'll go and I'll just go play basketball or I'll For
• 59:02
  walks, or I'll go out and play some pool.
• 59:05
  I don't know, just isn't fun. That's like not related to
• 59:08
  content and doesn't involve me, having a phone pointing at
• 59:11
  myself for a camera pointed at myself, or whatever.
• 59:14
  Like, because I think it's not just about getting away from,
• 59:19
  from all of that, it's about giving your mind, some space to
• 59:25
  breathe. I don't think that's a proper
• 59:26
  sentence, but yes, because I often find this as way if I If I
• 59:32
  just don't feel very inspired or I need to just get out, usually,
• 59:36
  when I've done that, I'll come up with ideas, just randomly and
• 59:40
  then I'll feel like inspired and fresh but you can never feel
• 59:43
  that way if you never take a break.
• 59:44
  If you never just relax. Yes it's not exactly your your
• 59:51
  your break. You need free time to come up
• 59:53
  with new ideas. That's just what it is.
• 59:57
  Otherwise you're never going to, you're never going to get
• 59:59
  anywhere. If you don't give yourself that
• 1:00:03
  it's this, it's the same with hustle culture, right?
• 1:00:06
  People or hustling. But then at the end, you're
• 1:00:10
  working 16-hour days, but you're getting as much done as if you
• 1:00:14
  would work 10 hours, right? Or 11.
• 1:00:17
  Because at some point, your body is just shutting down.
• 1:00:20
  Your mind is shutting down and then you're like, oh yeah, I
• 1:00:23
  worked 16 hours today. What have you got?
• 1:00:26
  Yeah, like listen, this is that. Oh, I could have done that in
• 1:00:29
  eight hours and there. Like, hmm, shit.
• 1:00:33
  It's yeah, yeah. You can't work too much because
• 1:00:37
  at that point, you're but you're just not going to be as good
• 1:00:40
  anymore. Oh, yeah.
• 1:00:41
  Plus your body just shuts down. Oh yeah, I find it frustrating
• 1:00:44
  because sometimes I'll be on a roll and I'll be getting loads
• 1:00:47
  of work done for like YouTube, for instance.
• 1:00:49
  But my body's just like, no, you need to rest and I'm like, come
• 1:00:52
  on. I don't want to get sick.
• 1:00:53
  I don't wanna do this and it's like, no, no, no, it's a breath.
• 1:00:57
  Yeah, it's like you need to rest.
• 1:00:59
  You need to To just do something else and I'm a fine, we'll do
• 1:01:06
  that. And then it's good is always
• 1:01:08
  good in the end. Yeah, of course it is.
• 1:01:12
  I mean you always gotta heat a you always got to listen to your
• 1:01:16
  body and your mind. That's that's like the most
• 1:01:19
  important thing that people need to learn to listen to themselves
• 1:01:23
  and not just torture themselves with too much.
• 1:01:28
  Right. Otherwise you're facing burnout
• 1:01:30
  or whatever the fuck. Hmm that's true.
• 1:01:34
  That's true. But Bono is very dangerous as
• 1:01:37
  well just in general 100%. I think I would.
• 1:01:46
  Yeah I mean I think if anything I really depends on the type of
• 1:01:51
  positions you have, but I think that like, in a lot of jobs,
• 1:01:55
  this whole nine to five thing is, Of immature.
• 1:01:59
  Yes, you know it is I can think of so many times when I've
• 1:02:04
  worked, you know, for certain companies in marketing and I'm
• 1:02:07
  just like I got my work done at like midday.
• 1:02:12
  So I'm just here for another five hours doing what, why can I
• 1:02:15
  not just go home? Yeah, it's that easy.
• 1:02:18
  I did better work than all the others.
• 1:02:21
  Just let me go home which is pointless.
• 1:02:25
  Yeah, I'm companies should reward that.
• 1:02:27
  That obviously, but they're not, they're doing the total
• 1:02:30
  opposite. If you're done with your work
• 1:02:33
  earlier you just get more work. Why would you be done with your
• 1:02:36
  work early at that point then yeah I'll just take the same
• 1:02:40
  amount of work and stretch it out to eight hours.
• 1:02:44
  I don't have a problem with that.
• 1:02:45
  That's the reality is well it's like yeah I suppose it does
• 1:02:50
  depend on your managers as well but when I when I realized when
• 1:02:54
  I got disillusioned and I realized it like managers It's
• 1:02:57
  like that and the company doesn't care about you.
• 1:03:00
  I started being I never got lazy, I always did my work.
• 1:03:03
  I always did it hard and I never let that okay because it's a
• 1:03:06
  reflection of who I am. It's, you know, but the same
• 1:03:09
  time I wouldn't I wouldn't put in the same amount of effort
• 1:03:12
  into like Building projects by myself anymore.
• 1:03:16
  Because it's like. Who am I doing this for no one
• 1:03:19
  cares. You know, okay, I remember one
• 1:03:24
  of the dreams, I left it was on bad terms, unfortunately.
• 1:03:31
  You know, we left, I left it professionally.
• 1:03:34
  And but like, You know, like I left I worked really hard even
• 1:03:41
  towards the very end and I made sure that I left a good hand
• 1:03:44
  over and stuff, but I'm pretty sure that like the work that I
• 1:03:48
  left over like no one bothered to like, check that out.
• 1:03:53
  And I wondered a lot during the final days if I was, if I was
• 1:03:56
  just wasting my time, if I should just sit around and do
• 1:03:59
  nothing but I just couldn't, I couldn't bring myself to do
• 1:04:02
  that. I just felt like it was like
• 1:04:04
  wrong somehow to do that. And I kind of just goes against
• 1:04:10
  what I believe is. Yeah, I don't know from the on
• 1:04:18
  the field that I'm working at like the co workers and the
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  managers and everything. If I if I'm very industrious or
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  not because oftentimes if someone just the atmosphere is
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  really good. Then yeah I'll put in a lot of
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  time. No problem with a good with a
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  good. As well because yeah, if you
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  treat me, well, I'm going to treat you well as well.
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  Hmm. It's very important, it's just
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  respect I guess. Yeah, that does seem to be a
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  lack of that in many workplaces. Unfortunately it's this kind of
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  thing of I think that they treat the job as though.
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  It's like, you know, you should be grateful for having this job,
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  like you should be up for that. You get away.
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  You should be grateful that we're bestowing this upon you.
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  And it's like, well, yeah, there are many jobs out there and the
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  more experience you get the better.
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  You are with like marketing yourself.
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  The more it's available to you. I mean, certainly since iíve
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  become unemployed and I of Started branching out and trying
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  all these different things. I've realized that there's a lot
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  of different ways that I could potentially make money.
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  And unfortunately I'm not able to like immediately get money
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  right now but you know they often say that like you put the
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  hard work in the money will come.
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  And yeah you know I'm looking at everything that I'm doing right
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  now and it is kind of building this like unofficial portfolio
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  in terms of being able to okay if you What I'm doing.
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  It's like okay, podcasting is number one, right?
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  And then you've got things like acting there's music.
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  I've done some voice acting for some, some projects, which will
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  be coming at school. I can't really say much on that,
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  but it will be a future thing. But it the reason I say that is
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  it like demonstrates that there's different things that
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  you can do and it's about like thinking outside the box and
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  really looking like all the different things that you could
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  potentially do to find employment.
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  Because I think a lot of people when they Become unemployed that
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  just like, oh well, I'll just look for jobs though, right?
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  And for me it's like I just see a problem with that, like I am
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  applying for jobs right now, like I have to but I'm not.
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  I'm not putting all of my eggs in one basket and relying on
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  that. Because another thing as well is
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  that like jobs you can just get like you, like you said, like,
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  with that job earlier. You know, you need to get fired
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  at any point and it's the same in corporate, you know,
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  marketing. Unfortunately is so tied to
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  sail. Was that a lot of your targets
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  are based on that, and I've seen, like, major managers in
• 1:07:03
  certain companies like come in. You know, they get paid a ton of
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  money but they get fired within like, six months because they
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  didn't meet a certain Target. And I've seen people My Level
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  like pretty much entry or mid-level marketing, just get
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  fired after less than a year, like it's brutal.
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  So I treat it as a very short term missed type of job and I do
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  my best. But it's like I don't really
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  have High Hopes with it to be So I'm just kind of looking at
• 1:07:29
  everything I can do in my life and even with YouTube, I don't
• 1:07:34
  put all my eggs in one basket. I mean that's one of the reasons
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  why the YouTube I did a lot of work to try and get it on
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  different platforms and you know I'm trying to build up some yes
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  right. I'm trying, I'm trying to kind
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  of like, build something with it.
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  That maybe all become. I don't know how to put it, but
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  like, Maybe they'll be able to get sponsors in the future for
• 1:07:59
  if I can, you know, show that there's numbers and staff and
• 1:08:02
  I'm thinking ahead. But You know, I'm trying a lot
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  of different things and I think that that's kind of the point at
• 1:08:11
  once, trying to say I'm just taking ages to get to the point.
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  But if you try a lot of different things and you try on
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  different lots of platforms and you just keep thinking, like,
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  what can I do what's available to me?
• 1:08:24
  Like, what kind of different things can I do?
• 1:08:26
  That's kind of like a healthy mentality to have I think and
• 1:08:30
  that's a good way of being able to approach it.
• 1:08:35
  Yes. I mean I mean you always need to
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  find what people want from you as well or what you're good at
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  as well. So I'm a big proponent of just
• 1:08:44
  going out in the world and trying lots of different shit.
• 1:08:47
  I taught myself, I told that to my sister my sister was just
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  doing the her degree and just wants to go to university now
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  and I was like, why don't you just go to New Zealand or two?
• 1:09:00
  Like you can always what's you can do?
• 1:09:02
  Because she was like I don't I don't really know what I Do
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  there's so many things I can study, I don't really know what
• 1:09:10
  I want to do. So I was like, yeah, then just
• 1:09:12
  go into a foreign country and look at what they're doing and
• 1:09:16
  take a look at the world and see what you want to do.
• 1:09:20
  Because I found what I want to do and I was at this in the same
• 1:09:23
  position but obviously for me it or for me it was pretty obvious
• 1:09:27
  what I want to do which was yeah, be an Entertainer, be
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  YouTube, twitch whatever you have on the Annette.
• 1:09:36
  And then I came into a marketing job and that was very good as
• 1:09:40
  well. And that's like another thing
• 1:09:41
  that I could think for myself just being a marketing and
• 1:09:44
  Market here. Hmm.
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  Yeah. I need to try a different stuff.
• 1:09:50
  I have the exact same mentality, to be honest.
• 1:09:53
  I'm looking at everything and I see it as a kind of, like, what
• 1:09:58
  stuff can you always do? And what stuff has like a time
• 1:10:01
  limit? Because I feel like things like
• 1:10:03
  marketing, their as good as, as long as you're young, whereas,
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  you know, once you reach certain age, it's like It really
• 1:10:14
  realistically? There is a form of ageism, it
• 1:10:16
  doesn't matter that Society is purporting.
• 1:10:18
  You know, you know, we're against ageism were against this
• 1:10:21
  regrets that it's like, you see the general age of the people
• 1:10:25
  around you and like how long you kind of have like, I think for
• 1:10:30
  marketing, unless you're at the top of the company, I would say
• 1:10:37
  it's like up to about 40s and then that's the kind of cutoff
• 1:10:40
  point and I might be controversial to say but I'm
• 1:10:43
  just saying on average what I've seen you know it's generally
• 1:10:46
  speaking it's young people in their 20s that's the average.
• 1:10:50
  You know thirties is thirties and forties is management past
• 1:10:54
  that and if you haven't gotten to the top of the company then
• 1:10:57
  your that's it. And that's yeah yeah I can see
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  that. That's that's the but that kind
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  of thing. Yeah.
• 1:11:07
  But then again, in the companies do you were there?
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  That was probably a very, very young field.
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  Anyways, so, I mean, I have seen people that do marketing that
• 1:11:18
  were like, in their 60s. Yeah, they did marketing.
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  Very, very different. Yeah, I'm not saying that that
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  doesn't happen, because I have seen that I agree with you.
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  Just saying on average. That that's a rarity to see that
• 1:11:34
  likely often. When you see that, it'll be Like
• 1:11:36
  some designer that's like particularly well known and very
• 1:11:40
  good at their craft, and they've managed to do it for that long
• 1:11:43
  or. Yeah.
• 1:11:44
  Like I said, someone someone who's, you know, an owner and a
• 1:11:47
  company or something or high up in the company that has that
• 1:11:50
  position. You know, it's rare that you
• 1:11:52
  see, say people in the 50s and 60s that are just like, I don't
• 1:11:58
  know, working as a copywriter or your standard sales position,
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  you know, it's not impossible. It's just unlikely.
• 1:12:06
  And that's why I always look at like everything that I do and
• 1:12:09
  I'm like, what the different ways I can make money.
• 1:12:11
  What can I learn? What can I, you know, what will
• 1:12:13
  be useful in the future? Same as your exact same as your
• 1:12:17
  mentality. Try as many different things as
• 1:12:19
  possible. Just so there's loads of
• 1:12:21
  different options. So that if shit does hit the
• 1:12:25
  fan, it's like, okay, well, I got different things I can do.
• 1:12:27
  I mean, I, for instance, customer service.
• 1:12:29
  You can be any age to do that, that doesn't matter.
• 1:12:33
  So that's kind of a it's not ideal but It's a job for life.
• 1:12:38
  I guess we're gonna let something again.
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  I always thought that to be an Entertainer or a twitch streamer
• 1:12:46
  or something, you need to be 25:21 and everything.
• 1:12:52
  I was always beating myself up and I was like, oh my God you're
• 1:12:56
  already 23. You're already 24.
• 1:13:01
  You don't have a bass of all going.
• 1:13:04
  Yeah you're never gonna make A kitten.
• 1:13:06
  But I look at it. Of course he's playing RuneScape
• 1:13:09
  and he has like seven. Are people watching him?
• 1:13:12
  It's great. I don't think age is necessarily
• 1:13:16
  the thing that sets you apart. It's always your capability.
• 1:13:20
  You're right. How good you are and I think in
• 1:13:26
  sales old people just just say ah fuck this job at some point
• 1:13:30
  and just go into other fields because it is a hard job and
• 1:13:33
  it's a weird mix of Things you have to do and I just want to
• 1:13:37
  say a big thank you to steal Z for being on the 25th episode of
• 1:13:43
  the Christian re podcast. Thank you for all your support.
• 1:13:46
  I really appreciate it and it's a pleasure to have you on the
• 1:13:49
  show. As always, you're always
• 1:13:50
  welcome. Hopefully we won't have the same
• 1:13:53
  internet problems that we had today, but I think even still,
• 1:13:56
  we had some some full-length conversation in there, and I'll
• 1:14:00
  just have to do some editing Wizardry to make it listenable.
• 1:14:07
  Anyway and also want to say, a big thank you to everyone who's
• 1:14:11
  been listening to the podcast on spot are podcasts.
• 1:14:15
  YouTube. We're now on Apple's podcasts
• 1:14:18
  finally after all this time. So I'm really happy about that.
• 1:14:22
  That's fantastic. And yeah I just want to say you
• 1:14:26
  know if you want to be on the Christian we've podcast please
• 1:14:28
  get in touch. I would love to have you on the
• 1:14:30
  show, always looking for new guests, always looking for
• 1:14:33
  people did out of this and I also want to say a big thank you
• 1:14:38
  to just again. Yeah, everyone listening to the
• 1:14:40
  Christian we've podcast. Please keep this.
• 1:14:43
  Then please keep let me know what you think.
• 1:14:46
  Let me know if there's any topics that you want to hear in
• 1:14:49
  the future. Just let me know.
• 1:14:52
  And yeah, we'll keep this going and onwards and upwards to
• 1:14:56
  number 50. Thank you.
• 1:14:58
  And until next time. Peace out.
• 1:15:01
  One love. See you in the next one.