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134 Reality Change Is Coming? What They're Not Telling You About Disclosure · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: There was this massive dog man and he had already
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  Speaker 1: had one Paul, massive Paul on my front the chield,
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  Speaker 1: and one Paul right above my mirror on the driver's side,
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  Speaker 1: and the driver's side of my car just pushed down,
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  Speaker 1: just the weight of it just puts pushed down, and
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  Speaker 1: the Paul that was on my front windshield, my windshield
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  Speaker 1: started cracking.
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  Speaker 2: And held it and held it and held it. And
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  Speaker 2: then while I was holding it, but it's like the
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  Speaker 2: ground underneath me just kind of opened up and I
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  Speaker 2: just kind of fell through the planet.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't moving, he wasn't blinking, like there was a
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  Speaker 3: complete like just like blankness to his face, like there
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  Speaker 3: was this there was nothing there.
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  Speaker 2: I rubbed my corn idle my truck.
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  Speaker 1: I jump out the truck talk and that's what I
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  Speaker 1: knew it was.
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  Speaker 2: It was just gold mare.
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  Speaker 1: There would be a real low general brown.
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  Speaker 3: One more step and he's going to be in clear view.
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  Speaker 3: And he takes that one.
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  Speaker 2: More step and he just it was like he just
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  Speaker 2: stepped behind an invisible curtain and he wasn't there anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Ia Jupiter everyone. This week I
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  Speaker 2: had on author Joseph S. Hallett and author Da Wi Song.
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  Speaker 2: This is the second time DA came on the show.
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  Speaker 2: So Joseph came on to talk to me about his
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  Speaker 2: UFO encounters that he had as a kid. There's two
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  Speaker 2: of them. The first one was a very interesting one
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  Speaker 2: when he was seven years old in Alaska, and the
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  Speaker 2: second one is when he moved to excuse me, when
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  Speaker 2: he moved to Washington State. Joseph is an author All
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  Speaker 2: wingks in descript below For Da and Joseph. The conversation
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  Speaker 2: went into the disclosure that they're getting us ready for
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  Speaker 2: What are they doing? What are they psychologically doing to
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  Speaker 2: us to get us ready for this disclosure? Are they
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  Speaker 2: using are you know, our religious beliefs against us? Probably?
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  Speaker 2: Are they using social media against us? Probably? Are they
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  Speaker 2: using standard media against us? Most likely? Are they using
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  Speaker 2: movies against us? Definitely? So all that in this episode,
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  Speaker 2: I hope you enjoy it. If you want to reach
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  Speaker 2: out to me, you can do so at the IA
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  Speaker 2: Jupiter Podcast at gmail dot com. One more time, THEI
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  Speaker 2: of Jupiter at gmail dot com. Oh excuse me, The
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  Speaker 2: You can also see all my links in the description below.
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  Speaker 2: you guys enjoyed this episode with day Song and Joseph
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  Speaker 2: s Holland.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, Hello everybody, Thanks for having us back.
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  Speaker 2: Well, but that's it's my pleasure of you back. You
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  Speaker 2: wrote me and you were like, I gotta come back
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  Speaker 2: and I want to bring this gentleman with me, and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, well that's definitely going to happen. So
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  Speaker 2: how's it been. How's it been, Diall? How are you?
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  Speaker 3: I have been doing fantastic and just writing up a
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  Speaker 3: fury and just finished my last book of my Monster
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  Speaker 3: Hunter series and uh, kind of doing a little downtime
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  Speaker 3: doing some marketing and been working on a collection of
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  Speaker 3: short stories. So it's my first take on the anthology
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  Speaker 3: of Madness. So it's you know, getting in there and
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  Speaker 3: getting kind of twisty, getting into a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: sci fi and old fashioned horror. So to be my
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  Speaker 3: first time to write that genre. So to go.
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  Speaker 2: To introduce yourself for people who may not remember you, dare,
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  Speaker 2: I am.
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  Speaker 3: A paranormal author and researcher, of fifty five books, including
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  Speaker 3: my best selling series, The Monster Hunters of America. Just
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  Speaker 3: finished the last book, Hunting for Tolfas, which is still
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  Speaker 3: number two. I've literally got twenty six books on the
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  Speaker 3: best sellers. I just checked. I couldn't even believe it.
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  Speaker 3: So almost all of the entire series is on the
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  Speaker 3: top hundred. So if you like adventure and exploration and
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  Speaker 3: discovery and cryptids and UFOs and everything that goes bumping
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  Speaker 3: the night, check out my books because they are doing really,
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  Speaker 3: really well, and they're not now on audio. So I've
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  Speaker 3: been doing a little marketing and working hard on behind
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  Speaker 3: the scenes and doing stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: So awesome, And you said, Tom, I want to come
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  Speaker 2: back on and I want to bring on this gentleman, Joe, Joe,
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  Speaker 2: how are you, buddy. I'm good.
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  Speaker 4: I'm good. I'm an author. I have seven books published,
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  Speaker 4: and probably Friday i'll have my eighth Stelaris Fracture. I'm hoping,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you never know, release on Friday.
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  Speaker 2: Fantastic. All the links, got all the links in the description. Guy,
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  Speaker 2: if you want to go and get Joseph's books or
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  Speaker 2: find them, or go and get the DA's books. All
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  Speaker 2: links in the description. Go ahead and check them out. So, guys,
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  Speaker 2: what are we going to get into today? It's always
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  Speaker 2: you never know. DA is such a encyclopedia of Like
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  Speaker 2: we talked about vampires less time, and this time we're
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  Speaker 2: going to talk about UFO. So how do we start?
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  Speaker 2: Where do we start?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you go ahead, Joseph, because you're the one that
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  Speaker 3: had the You're actually Joseph's an experiencer. He also works
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  Speaker 3: in aerodynamics, so he is really an interesting guy to
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  Speaker 3: talk with. So I've learned a lot from him, really
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  Speaker 3: on the end of UFOs and sci fi in general.
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  Speaker 3: That's the kind of genre he's really his forte is
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  Speaker 3: soph Start with him.
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  Speaker 2: Fantastic Joseph. So you had some UFO encounters? Could you,
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  Speaker 2: you know, do me favor kind of walk me into
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  Speaker 2: it chronologically? You know, what were you doing, where were
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  Speaker 2: you and what happened?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So this was in Alaska. I lived on a
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  Speaker 4: homestead just north of Wasilla, Alaska, and it was can
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  Speaker 4: you can you hear me?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, we lived it.
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  Speaker 4: We called it Baldy Mountain. I don't know what the
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  Speaker 4: real name of the mountain was. It probably could be Baldy,
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  Speaker 4: but it may not even have a name. Alaska is
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  Speaker 4: so big you don't eam everything. But I was living
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  Speaker 4: on a homestead north of Wasilla, and I was about
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  Speaker 4: seven ischhh, it's hard to remember, but I was coming
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  Speaker 4: home from town with my stepfather riding in the truck.
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  Speaker 4: And we lived on the other side of the valley.
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  Speaker 4: And there's a ridge that looks over the whole valley
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  Speaker 4: and I could I could see where my house was
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  Speaker 4: on the other side of the valley. It was was
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  Speaker 4: about two or three miles away. And you know, I'm
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  Speaker 4: just staring off and you know, watching this side of
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  Speaker 4: the road or whatever, like little kids do, not not
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  Speaker 4: paying attention. And my stepdad slammed on the brakes and
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  Speaker 4: pulled over, and he's like, look and he points, you know,
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  Speaker 4: across to the other side of the valley, and there's
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  Speaker 4: this uh star shape is what people would say, but
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  Speaker 4: it wasn't around. It was. It reminded me of the
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  Speaker 4: book portions of a train, like a train engine, those
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  Speaker 4: those portions, but huge. It was very, very big, like
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  Speaker 4: I said, across the valley, like if you if you
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  Speaker 4: put your thumb out, it would it be as white
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  Speaker 4: as your thumb across the valley and it was kind
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  Speaker 4: of orange and had like a few black things under
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  Speaker 4: underneath it, and rectangular, but I would say four or
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  Speaker 4: five times the physical size of a train engine.
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  Speaker 2: And it was.
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  Speaker 4: Completely silent, and it just coasted below the ridge line
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  Speaker 4: slowly across through the valley and just drifted off out
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  Speaker 4: of sight. Took about five minutes. And you know, I'm seven.
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  Speaker 4: I lived in Alaska until I was twelve, so and
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  Speaker 4: we lived in the bush and there's not a lot
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  Speaker 4: of well, we got a channel, a TV channel, I
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  Speaker 4: think it was, and I wasn't really into reading too much.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't have access to a lot of books. We
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  Speaker 4: had a school library obviously, but just not a lot
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  Speaker 4: of variety. So I wasn't getting any external information to
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  Speaker 4: form what this thing was. I didn't know. I didn't
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  Speaker 4: know that UFOs was a thing.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but.
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  Speaker 3: What year was that? Like, Joe, so.
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  Speaker 4: Let's hear probably I was born in seventy two, so
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  Speaker 4: seventy seven, seventy eight?
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  Speaker 2: Was it? Was it horizontal or was it?
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  Speaker 4: It was horizontal? It's just kind of like slowly drifted
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  Speaker 4: because I.
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  Speaker 2: Just got to kind of I don't want to say
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  Speaker 2: what I got, So someone just reached out to me
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  Speaker 2: and they sent me. I don't it's the most amazing
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  Speaker 2: UFO picture I've ever seen. And it was an Arizona
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  Speaker 2: And this is just recently and they're coming on next
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  Speaker 2: week to talk to me about And this thing was
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  Speaker 2: vertical this way okay, and it was it's so far
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  Speaker 2: away it looks like you could think maybe it's delon
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  Speaker 2: the satellite thing. But it's wide, right, But it's wide
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  Speaker 2: and it has edges on it. There's a picture from
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  Speaker 2: far away and you see he's zoom, don't it. This
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  Speaker 2: thing has to be man. If I had to take
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  Speaker 2: a guess, maybe a mile wide, and I would say
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  Speaker 2: something of I would say something like ten to fifteen
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  Speaker 2: miles long, if not longer. Yeah, And I don't I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what the thing. Yeah, I'm gonna it's it's
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  Speaker 2: coming up after this one guy's So when you said
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  Speaker 2: train engine, I've heard this before. I've heard this before people.
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  Speaker 2: So could you describe what you why would you mean trainage?
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  Speaker 2: Are you seeing like like little.
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  Speaker 4: Like Yeah, it wasn't like a smooth surface. It had
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  Speaker 4: like angles on it and you know, like I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: rib spars or whatever, just just odd shape, but it
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  Speaker 4: was definitely rectangular, with the same rough dimensions as you
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  Speaker 4: would train engine, but scaled up like huge. And then
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  Speaker 4: there's like two it was orange. It was it was
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  Speaker 4: rust orange, rust ishh and with like weird black these
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  Speaker 4: black platform things underneath it. I mean, not that I
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  Speaker 4: would know what to call them if I knew what
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  Speaker 4: they were. You know, I don't know right the whole thing.
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  Speaker 4: And it was like really surreal. My stepdad when we
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  Speaker 4: stopped and were watching it once we couldn't see anymore.
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  Speaker 4: He just got into the truck because we got out
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  Speaker 4: and we're watching it, and then when it was gone,
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  Speaker 4: we just got into the truck and drove back home
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  Speaker 4: and really didn't say a word about it after that.
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  Speaker 4: Like I didn't know what questions asked. Was okay, that's
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  Speaker 4: that's cool. But from a seven year old bring, I
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  Speaker 4: didn't really have that large of a pool to draw
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  Speaker 4: from it or question.
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  Speaker 3: Now, he was in the military, wasn't he My real
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  Speaker 3: dad is in the military.
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  Speaker 4: My stepdad was a guide. Oh okay, he would he
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  Speaker 4: would take rich hunters out and.
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  Speaker 2: Did anyone else? Was there any anything in the newspaper
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  Speaker 2: or anything spoken throughout the time or it was.
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  Speaker 4: Just not yeah, not that I'm aware of, And I
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  Speaker 4: didn't read the newspaper back then.
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  Speaker 2: Anything about again. You never spoke to him about it.
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  Speaker 4: Again, He never spoke about it. He didn't say a
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  Speaker 4: word after we got back into the truck. He just
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  Speaker 4: we just drove back home and it's like nothing ever happened.
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  Speaker 4: But it made a clear impression on me because it
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  Speaker 4: was just something I had never experienced before. Now, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it might have been his first experience, but you know,
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  Speaker 4: it was weird. It was just like after it went away,
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  Speaker 4: it was like, all right, let's just go home, and
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  Speaker 4: nothing else was said about it.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's so strange. Have you heard anything like this
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  Speaker 2: da before? You ever heard anything where it looks like that?
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  Speaker 3: No, But I do find it interesting that that That's
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  Speaker 3: why I asked ing what year that was, because during
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  Speaker 3: that time, the ones that I researched were always the
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  Speaker 3: you know, round ones you didn't although there were a couple,
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  Speaker 3: like in the eighties where you did start seeing something
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  Speaker 3: more rectangular. And you know, that's really why I chose
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  Speaker 3: to write the UFO Agenda in Alaska, because I definitely
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  Speaker 3: think that's a base of where a lot of our
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  Speaker 3: own technology is coming from and around the Mount Rainer
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  Speaker 3: Mountains actually that particular region. I think that that that
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  Speaker 3: it's almost like a hub a base. What do you think, Joseph.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, i'd agree. Not knowing what I was looking at,
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  Speaker 4: I could have possibly saw a lot more UFOs in
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  Speaker 4: my life than I realized, because in Alaska's dark a lot,
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  Speaker 4: and so you spend a lot of time looking in
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  Speaker 4: the night sky. Oh, it's overcast a lot. But when
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  Speaker 4: it's not, when it's nighttime and not overcast, the stars
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  Speaker 4: are spectacular because there's no light pollution and you can
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  Speaker 4: see everything. And so not having a knowledge base of
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  Speaker 4: what things are in the sky is from those are stars.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't even think I knew about satellites back then,
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  Speaker 4: So looking at the sky, I've probably seen UFOs and
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  Speaker 4: just didn't even recognize that. It was weird.
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  Speaker 3: How far where you lived? How far was that from
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  Speaker 3: the Mount rain Er area?
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  Speaker 2: Well?
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  Speaker 4: Mount Rainier's in Washington, so I'm closer to.
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  Speaker 3: It now, but it's not that. But it's only like,
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  Speaker 3: isn't that like fifty miles away from where Alaska is?
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  Speaker 4: Uh No, it's a little bit farther, but the south
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  Speaker 4: Puget Sound is like Juno and Sitka area. It's pretty
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  Speaker 4: far from where I lived, and.
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  Speaker 3: There's just so many UFO activity that when I did
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  Speaker 3: my research, it's massive in Alaska. Like there's so many
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  Speaker 3: different like sightings and stuff, and the anomalies of Alaska
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  Speaker 3: are just incredible. It's like there's some.
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  Speaker 4: Weird stuff in Alaska. We have our own Alaska trying goal.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I've heard of this. I've heard of this.
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  Speaker 4: There's an area that think it goes up to Fairbanks
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  Speaker 4: where a lot of weird mysterious things happen, UFO sightings, disappearances,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of different disappearances of people Alaska.
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  Speaker 2: What's part Alaska? Are you? How far are you out
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  Speaker 2: of outside of say, you know, Juno or Anchorage.
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  Speaker 4: I was, I was north of Anchorage about.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, Okay, So I know where you are. Cool.
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  Speaker 2: You're like basically smack dab in the middle, not that
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  Speaker 2: far away from the largest city there. And you guys
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  Speaker 2: were just up there just living your life. Your your
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  Speaker 2: stepfather was a guide for what like hunting? Yeah, hunting.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it sounds great.
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  Speaker 2: Please continue, it sounds.
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  Speaker 4: Great until you are you know, six years old being
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  Speaker 4: dragged through the mountains when you don't want to be there,
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  Speaker 4: you just want to play at home. But now he
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  Speaker 4: just took me along. But it was it was kind
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  Speaker 4: of a blessing in disguise because he taught me bushcraft
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  Speaker 4: and that sort of thing. And had he taught me
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  Speaker 4: a lot. It's funny you should ask, no, I would
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  Speaker 4: I would have expected, and you know that's the thing
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  Speaker 4: is like Bigfoot probably saw me, but I didn't see it.
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  Speaker 4: And now I we're trying to figure out the name
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  Speaker 4: of this little creature. I called him Brownies. But when
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  Speaker 4: I was playing in the woods, I would get that
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  Speaker 4: feeling that I'm being watched and by something, so I
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  Speaker 4: look around, you know, and every once in a while
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  Speaker 4: i'd see a glimpse of like a little statued creature thing,
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  Speaker 4: and I called it Brownie because like.
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  Speaker 2: So something you know, for people listening. So his hands
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  Speaker 2: moved are about about a foot and height.
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  Speaker 4: What you're telling me, yeah, roughly, yeah, this little little
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  Speaker 4: guys what Once it'd be like hiding behind a tree
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  Speaker 4: and I would catch it and I wouldn't really sure
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  Speaker 4: if I saw it or not, or if I imagined it.
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  Speaker 4: But it happened enough that I think I saw something, And.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was asking Joseph what the proper name of
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  Speaker 3: those in my book? I think it's air aircron and
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  Speaker 3: they are supposed to be just the size of a child,
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  Speaker 3: right like maybe like a five year old or a
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  Speaker 3: four year old. Is that about the heights you saw?
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  Speaker 4: No, it was it was pretty small, like maybe a
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  Speaker 4: foot in half, but you know, it could have been,
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  Speaker 4: you know, a juvenile.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what did it look like, Joseph.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't get very good details out of it. It's
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  Speaker 4: like I saw a roughly humanoid shape wearing like first
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  Speaker 4: kind of clothing. It wasn't like I wasn't seeing like
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  Speaker 4: a full on person person. I saw something that looks
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  Speaker 4: humanoid hiding behind a tree when I looked at it.
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  Speaker 4: So that's what happened pretty frequently.
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  Speaker 2: That's interesting. I was speaking to a gentleman I can't
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  Speaker 2: think of his name. His name was Thomas Suwet, Thomas Suett,
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  Speaker 2: and he is a First Nations person in Canada, and
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  Speaker 2: he told me, hey, I had a sasquatch everywhere here,
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  Speaker 2: but there's also these little ones. And I never got
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  Speaker 2: to talk to him about that. Because that's up that area.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, no, like northern Vancouver Island and on the
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  Speaker 2: other side on the mainland, that's the area that his
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  Speaker 2: his people are from. And he was like, hey, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we got these people, and I can't think they have
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  Speaker 2: the names that are in his native tongue. And I
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  Speaker 2: wonder if you're seeing the same things like you also
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  Speaker 2: hear people in the East Coat talk about puck wedgies
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  Speaker 2: right right.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, now that I know what a puck wedgie is,
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  Speaker 4: that's what I would call it, maybe like okay, Northern
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  Speaker 4: Alaskan puck budgie.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I actually wrote a book that Ron Murphy uh
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  Speaker 3: actually turned me on to that, the pub Wedgies and
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  Speaker 3: uh and they are there. It's all in the elemental Kingdom,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And it's really kind of
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  Speaker 3: They're really very mischievous and they can be benevolent, they
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  Speaker 3: can lure their they really don't care for humans too much. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they don't care for us humans too much, and they
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: can be pretty honoring.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: So a puck wedgie is a legendary two to three
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: foot tall, gray skinned humanoid from one up. I can't
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: pronounce this word one and it's someone screaming at the
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: screen right now. Native American folklore known for their large noses, ears, fingers.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: These mischievous and often malicious beings possess magical abilities such
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: as invisibility, shape shifting, and the power to shoot poison arrows.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: It might be something different.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Forests, there's a swamp, so they really do they In
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: that particular area, there's a lover's leap, and it's been
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: known that they will lure people to that. It's almost
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: like they do have that telepathic ability. There may be
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: the person that's in there is already depressed or going
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: through a love loss of some type, and that they
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: can lure those particular people off to I think it's
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: called lover's leap, And so they're honering like that, and
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: a lot of people believe that it's because they keep
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: your soul. When they can get you to jump, then
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: they's like it's food for them. It's like a fuel
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: for them energetically.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: So they have something similar here. It's called a looche
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: and that's what they it's l u a l u
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: x and this is like something that is conjured to
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: protect the property of the Mayans. And I've had a
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: run in with them and uh, you kind of like
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: to throw rocks at you or machief is uh. They
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: kind of protect the land. They also like they uh,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: the cat.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Your cat telling the.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Tails, it's her, it's our cat. That cat talks more
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: than nine cats. And his name is Nacho. I call
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: him terrorists. He's a terrorist. I call him call him.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I call him ama Asama bin Nacho because his name
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: is not and he is. He's a don't leave food
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: on the table and that's not for me, but it's
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: just yeah, so they have so this is a very
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: famous area for that. And I hear stories of people
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: who you know, they'll you know, there was one story
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: a friend of mine. Uh so it's his uncle and
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: his uncle's friend. They were out in one of these
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: larger backyards, like a half acre where it's still like
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: kind of you know, forested, jungle like, and there's a
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: lot of caves here and they kept hearing some in
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: the corner of the property and the guy goes checked
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: this out. He takes that a little like glass of beer,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: sets it down, takes a cigarette and sets it next
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: to it, and this thing came out, took a hit
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: off the cigarette, started drinking and the friend just took
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: off running and they both came down with a fever
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: that lasted for about two or three weeks. And I've
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: actually heard it where people have perished from these fevers.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: They'll go down into the caves here, and the Spanish
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: called it manaiente, so like bad winds or evil winds,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: and they'll go down there and they'll come back with
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: like a crink in their neck and a fever. And
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: there's been stories of people who've actually perished, or there
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: was another one he was telling me where they stole
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: corn because the Ilusia's they protect the Mayan's corn and
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: they're actually like made of like when they so they
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: conjured them over like a seven day thing. It's corn
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: with mud and blood in some type of ritualistic type
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: magic and after seven days this form disappears and they're
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: there to protect the property. So he was living close
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: to a new like residential area here in Mexico, and
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: he went into like there's a road that went down
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: and it had like he said, it was like a
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: tunnel where the the vegetation was growing over the road.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: So him and his friend went in like down the
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: road about half kilometer or whatever half mile went in
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: the woods, grabbed about six years of corn, and all
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: of a sudden they heard something chasing them, so they
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: ran and as they were running, they stopped and turned around.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: They said it look he said, it looked like the
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: forest was coming down the tunnel and moving towards him,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: like moving toward and he took the corn and threw
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: it down and it stopped and they ran to their house.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: So this is spooky, bro.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: People like they kind of worshiped these deities into existence.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: The Mayans did, yes, because this is before yes, yes, yes,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: it's something like that was another there's another word I
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: can't think of the right now, or homunculus kind of
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: like thing where it's like conjured into existence kind of
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: thing like a.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Servant tour would be somebody to do their bidding.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I was talking to a mechanic here right
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: and I was waiting for my car to get fixed
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: and my truck to get fixed. I was talking to
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Joseph about the shitty truck that I bought when I
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: got here and I was getting the starter rebuilt, and
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: he was like, you know, hey, America, do to do
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: to do? And he was really cool and he was
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: showed me all the deer hunting he did and all
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: the pictures and stuff, and he goes, what do you do.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: I go, I got this podcast. And he goes, oh,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: have you heard about a Lucias? And oh yeah, he goes,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: trust me, dude, they're real Like, what do you mean.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I didn't bring it up. He brought it up. And
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, anytime you're out there in the woods
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: and I have my rifle and I'm near like a
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: hillside for whatever, it's a lot of little hills here. Uh,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: you're in the middle of the forest and you'll get
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: rocks thrown at you all the time, all the time,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: and I have one thrown at me.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Or you'll hear like voices. I've heard voices here, I've
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: seen lights here. It's uh, it's it's a weird place.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: It's a weird place. But once I said, you know,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I'm not here to harm the land. I'm here to
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: help the land. But you can stay. Just don't mess
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: with us. Ever since, we haven't any issues. But when
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: I first moved out there, it's half a mile off
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: the off any road down a mud path. I mean,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: if it's raining heavily you ain't getting back there with
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: the truck, even with four wheel drive. So it's one
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: of those kinds of places. And yeah, I want to
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: ask you a question.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's interesting, isn't it. How all the
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: cultures around the world have these these magical beans and
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: they're all connected to the elemental kingdoms. But as a researcher,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: I follow patterns and the whole time from the beginning
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: from when we were talking about the pug Wodgies on
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: down to what Joseph was talking about in the woods,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: is they are there? These elemental kingdom is there? These
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: beans are to protect the land. And you know what else,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: It sounds like Bigfoot? Who else throws rocks? They shape shift,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: they change form. I definitely believe Bigfoot is part of
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: the elemental kingdom for sure. And I think that they
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: because they can shape shift, they could even possibly shape
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: shift into that like a dryad is a type of
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: an elemental that is connected to the trees. And what
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: do we have with Bigfoot? They knocked on the trees.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: They're always near the trees. When Joseph had his encounter,
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: they were near the trees. You were in the forest,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: they were all around in the trees. It's the patterns.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: It's the same thing, you know, So I do believe.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Now you can see you can see here like the
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: absolutely it's nothing speaking against that for sure, but you
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: can see here. It's all throughout Mane culture. You can
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: see it's here carved in the stone.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: This is what they kind of look like. They're they
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: got a big bootabelly. They're about two to three feet tall.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: They even build little houses for them. There was a
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: overpass this is. Here's one in a tree here when
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: you see that. Here's one supposedly in the tree when
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: they're building to train Maya through the middle of the
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: forest here, and uh, it's uh, it's it's very common
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: in the culture down here. And I've had people who've
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: seen them. I've had people come to me and talk
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: about them. It's, uh, it's one of those things. Wow,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I guess we're going to do it like this now. Huh, okay,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: we'll do it like this. I like to do. How
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: do I get there? We go? Hey, there we go.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I'm learning. I'm still me making me because I've never
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: normally I normally never do it with two other guests.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: So for me, it's very interesting. Joe's I want to
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: know what got you into being an author about these
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: kind of things. Did something else happen to you, or
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: did like just through time the you know, the cat
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: got the best of you or whatever that word that's
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: saying is what got well.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: I did have another UFO encounter when I was Okay
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: in Washington in nineteen ninety, and now that I'm a
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: little older and had I was into this stuff before
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: I saw the nineteen ninety UFO, mostly because when you
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: see something weird like that when you're a kid, do
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: you never really forget about it, and it just works
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: in your mind. And as I got older and more
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: exposed to books and that sort of thing, I was
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: just drawn drawn to it, you know, drawn to the
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: mystery of what are they? Where do they come from?
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: All of that was just intensely intriguing. And I listened
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: to Art Bell and you know, so I was really
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: into that into it. But you know, so in nineteen ninety,
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: I was outside of my apartment with my girlfriend at
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: the time, and from behind me, the fall green fireball
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: sphere flew across the Auburn Valley. This is an Auburn,
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: Washington and directly across directly over that little regional airport
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: that there's there is, and it was right over the trees.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, we got the glow from it passing over us,
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: and like so maybe sixty feet above above me. And
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: it was about this size of two Volkswagen Bugs put together.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: So it's that spherical, like twelve fifteen feet diameter, glowing
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: green like almost electric looking patterns on it, completely silent,
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: and you know, of course, then it happened, and I'm like,
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: did you see that? You know, interrupting our conversation, like
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: did you see that? She says yeah, And I ran
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: in ran down into my house to the back back
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: door to where some of my roommates were and like
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: did you see that? And they're like, no, see what.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: They didn't see it, but me and my girlfriend at
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: the time did, and so that of course reinforces you know,
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: I knew that it wasn't identifiable, right it had I
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: couldn't figure out what it was, so it was obviously
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: an unidentified flying object or u a P as they
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: like to put it now, which is kind of gross.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, this is this is one of
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: the UFO podcasts we don't do.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: That's right, saying, yeah, so my ufone sighting was just
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: was that and of course reinforcing my need to know,
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: you know, I'm super hooked by then I did report
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: it to the UFO Reporting database u Fork I believe
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: it's called, and so so I did. I did make
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: an actual UFO report. I don't think many people do,
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: but this Peter Davenport I think his name is, that
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: runs to the database anyway, and I looked it up
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: if other people had seen it, and there were a
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: couple other sightings of this green fireball, so that you know,
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: my first two, my sighting in Alaska and my sighting
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: in Washington, did a lot to make me just being
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: want to be involved in this topic. So yeah, most
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: in my I don't have like a lot of books,
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: but there's always some kind of little reference here and
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: there to like a UFO, especially in my first two
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Emergents collective and in my Arcship trilogy, there's some hints
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: of UFOs just being a common thing.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems to be. It seems to be on
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: the upswing for sure. The only time I've seen two
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: things just let you know, like so one time when
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: I first got my telescope. I went out to a
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: field looking to get away from light pollution. I actually
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: went to the light pollution map, which is what I
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: like to do. It's just shows you how much fun
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: I have on weekends. And so I bought a telescope
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: and I was this is awesome in it. And so
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: me and my ex wife at the time, my daughter,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: we took a telescope and walked into the woods about
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: about ten minutes and this is old uh it's in Germany.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: It's an old army field they used to practice their
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: tanks on and things like that. And I was like, all, yeah,
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: this is a good spot open sky. It's on top
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: of a hill and I was able to see well
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: so before I saw Jupiter, Saturn and Mars. You know,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: look at the telescope first time. Blew my mind. It's
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: always different seeing it in you know, in your eye
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: than it is someone telling you, yeah, it's so much better,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: you know. And I got to see the you know,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: the four Galilean Moons of you know whatever, kliss Stow
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: and all those. Yeah. So right over the top of
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: the woodline about two hundred yards away, as you know,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: a pine tree forest, and I just was looking there,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: and I don't remember if she's seen her or not,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: but I remember looking there and I just seen like
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: this orange ball. It was maybe the distance it was
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I guess it was the size of oh my god, yeah,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: I guess the size of a car, like you're sound
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: like a VW. But it was orange, but it wasn't
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: bright and it wasn't quite dark yet, but you could
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: see it and it just kind of who blooped into existence,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: kind of moved around left and right, and I'd seen it.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I've seen the same thing on a video one time
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: where this uh, this African American gentleman said, oh, I
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: can call him into existence. He goes and he just
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: sat there and thought about it, and then the camera
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: looked up and you've seen it in the sky. It's
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: a famous video. And I seen the same thing, and
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: it makes me wonder, so, like, what what is the
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: implications of that? So I've always been interested in these
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: kind of things. And then the first time I take
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: a telescope out is gonna be like, hi, we're here
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: kind of situation. And then once here in Mexico, I
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: saw on the back of my truck clouds in the sky,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: like what it was like, you know, there's big cumun
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: nimbus mixed them with some serious clouds and stuff. And
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: I was sitting in the back of my truck with
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: my daughter. We were renting this house when I first
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: got here, and you see like a white thing like
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: pin side pinhead size go into a cloud, come out
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: the other side, and to make a ninety degree turn
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: and then go away at a distance. So I've seen
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: things too, but nothing nothing whereas like you know, you know,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: you hear people where they talk about, you know, like
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: there's static electricity in the air. I had on the
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: gentleman who had monster quest dug a high check and
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: the things that happen in his neighborhood. Nothing you know
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: like that, but it's still it seems to be on
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: the upsweep. If you had to make a guess, I
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: guess I'll start with Joe, like, what do you think
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: these things are?
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: Well, they're they're not human, I know what, They're not
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: definitely extra terrestrial for sure. I think I think the
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: orbs might be entities in themselves, not like little piloted crafts.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: I think the smaller orbs are just that entity, that
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: energy intelligence. They seem elf like and playful. I mean
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: you've seen all the videos, right, they're dancing around. There's
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: no rhyme or reason to what they're doing.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: You see, there's a lot with Bigfoot sightings too. I'm
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: sorry to cut your off, buddy, but you see a
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: lot of big food sightings where people will see orbs
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: like everywhere orange ones like you're saying you said green,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: they're saying orange and yellow orbs and then they'll see
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: then to be a big Foot sighting too, You're like,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: what's that about? Or or ufo at the same time,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: like it seems to be all like connected in a
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: in a weird whatever way. You don't think they're possibly
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: interdimensional because you know, extra threscial means that's what I'm
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: thinking too. Yeah, we're not interrupting here.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Look at how this is the vehicle, but do.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: You see like the phoenix lights.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: That is Bigfoot inside the orbs. I believe the transport
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: and I believe they are interdimensional.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: Yes, I'm going to piss a lot of people off
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: because I've been I've been thinking a lot and long
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: and hard about it's and it's not really anybody's fault,
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: but dimensions are not different places to me and right,
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: So you can't be we are all already interdimensional. We
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: dimensions are the stage of which the universes play upon.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: So when we're when people say interdimensional creature, actually I
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: think that they mean another reality, a different realm, a
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: different world, a different universe, multi universe.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Well, definitely that's what it is.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: But when you say interdimension, I'm not gonna say, how
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: dare you? Dimensions are directions there, there are spaces, right,
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: So when you when you come from a different universe,
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: they're from the third dimension in that universe because it's
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: the same third dimension. And then but it's a different
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: reality entirely, a different universe. So it's just I'm not
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: really upset. It's like something. It kind kind of like
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: irks on me that they're not we're all interdimensional because
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: we're all in the same dimension. If you see a
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: creature from space right standing in front of you, it's
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: in the third dimension and we're in the same third dimension.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: May have came from a different universe.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: See I disagree with that because if you look up
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: the definition of interdimensional, did you know that angels and
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: demons fall under that classification of interdimensional because they do
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: come from different realms, and it's most probably the fourth
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: and fifth dimension and up higher. Of course we're in
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: the third dimension. So those little orbs and stuff, I
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: do think is a type of transportation. I mean, if
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: you look at the definition of what an angel looked
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: like like biblically, they were, they were crazy, and they
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: kind of fit the description of these plasmoids that were
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: seeing floating around remember a couple about a year ago.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: They were everywhere.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: And what I find very telling, and I'm very skeptical
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: to say that that the government doesn't have thing to
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: do with this, because if this is all really happening,
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: and we're seeing this triangular you know ufo or this
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: vw uh orange you know uh ufo, and so on
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: and so on, why is our government allowing that? Why
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: aren't they, you know, worried about these siding dating our eras.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: That makes no sense to me at all. It's a
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: production in cohoots with whatever we are experience, and some
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: of it I think is our own technology. I don't
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: care what anybody says.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: It's like if they if the government comes out and
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: says my my my point of view is that the
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: government come out and says, yeah, these things are real,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: but we have no power over them. It looks it
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: makes them look in a position of nonpower, and when
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: they do that, that creates.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: Panic against and it goes against what our military defense
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: supposed to be doing protecting us from foreign invasion. So,
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, we could go down a real rabbit hole
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: with all that. I do believe they're working with these
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: entities whatever you want to call them, interdimensional beings. The
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Colins Elite that were hired back in those sixties and
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: seventies all the way up until the late nineties were
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: basically the Pentagon hired this group of religious scholars and
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: you can't and very little. The first person I heard
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: talk about the Collins Elite was Nick Redfern, and that's
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: not even their real term is the Colins Elite. And
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: it was because the Pentagon realized that after a couple
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: of decades they were since the treaty with Eisenhower, there
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: were demons and they wanted to learn how to weaponize them.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: They knew exactly what they were dealing with and they
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: didn't know how to deal with them. That's why they
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: hired the Colins Elite. They know exactly what they're doing
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: and that's how they're getting their technology. So when we're
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: seeing all these things, yeah we're seeing them, but really
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: is in our own technology? Look just think about it.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Look how far you know we've been advanced as a humanity,
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: But really these extraterrestrials, interdimensionals, whatever you want to call them,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: space inveyers. Look at the Roswell cro crash at that
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: particular saucer. Isn't it interesting how we never see those anymore?
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: Now we're seeing rectangular ones, ones that are three miles,
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: one that are glowing, ones that are doing orange, ones
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: that are you know, up and down, vertical, horizontal, they're
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: all it's because it's the technology that has been given
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: to us in exchange for human lives to do whatever
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: they wanted to do, six thousand a year, to be exact,
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: to do whatever they wanted, make it human trafficking off
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: planetary high viprasation food, whatever.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: You know, What did your take on what you what's
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: your take on that? Joseph?
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: I think I think it's possibly an all of the
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: above scenario because we know, like m J twelve, you know,
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: they you know, was or keeping the secret about contacting
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: the Grays and the contract with stealing or abducting people
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: in exchange for for technology.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: But they're.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: If you assume that there's only one race or species
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: of extraterrestrials, that that would kind of make a lot
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: of sense. But World War Two, the very moment we
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: had achieved nuclear power, bombs were dropping, our enemies were
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: getting crushed. We had the upper hand, and we used it.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: I think today it would be the same thing, except
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: for not a nuke but a UFO. If we had
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: UFOs we whatever, were given them, or we reverse engineered it,
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: and we are able to utilize that technology, you fucking
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: use it.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: We would like Bob like situation.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, right, So I don't think that we humanity
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: has quite got to the point where we can manufacture
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: an army of these or we would use them. So, yeah,
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: we can see them and they're there, but it's as
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: much as soon as we have the technology to reproduce it,
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: the wars are over. Because he who has the biggest
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: stick rules, and there's a lot of really crazy leadership
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: out there that are waiting for that big stick.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: I personally think that all the world governments are in
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: cahoots with their own particular race of what we want
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: to call an alien and point, speaking of World War two,
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: that's where my monster Hunters of America is. The origins
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: is Nazi Germany, and it is very clear. It's a
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: really good book. It's you know, it's been out there
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: for three years and it's still in the top fifty
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: every single day, up there with the Boy and the
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: stripe pajamas. It's a really good, well booked. It's a
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: good book. It's got a lot of research. But I
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: believe that that's why Hitler and why Nazi Germany were
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: so advanced in their technology, because Hitler was the first
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: world leader to work with that.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: More than willing to give human souls for trades of technology.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Not to mention the occult and the occult angle that
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: he was in on. He was always kind of put
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: that under the rug man, not to mention. You know.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Then when you go into book two, Unleashed, is when
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: uh she flees from Germany and comes to the os
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: I with all this you know, information basically, and then
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: come to find out they're in league with the devil
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: here too, you know what I mean, which later becomes
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: the c I A. But they're all in cahoots. I mean,
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: that's what project uh paper Clip was all about. All
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: the Nazis came over here, we have Plumb Island. They're
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: doing all these mad experiments, you know, hybrids, saying my dime,
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: saying that if.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: You know Sam Tripoli at all, he's one of my
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: heroes when it comes to this kind of thing. He said, Uh,
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: the Nazis didn't lose the war. Germany lost the war. Yeah,
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: because because when when Werner van Brown have you say
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: in English? Yeah, I don't know how to say. I
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: can only pronounce the German when he came over and
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: he had the V two bomb, the buzz bomb, he
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: came over, he was seen as a hero, and he's like, no,
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: this guy was a freaking he s officer and people
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: just failed to realize. I want to get your guys
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: take on it happened I think twice now, but it
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: really about maybe a year ago, No, a little lesson
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: a year ago. Maybe there was this huge amount of
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: sightings over New Jersey and surrounding states of these of
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: these Uh they called them drones, but they made no sense.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: What did you take?
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah? What did your take on?
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: That shows it's not kind of complicated but not but
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: it's all. It's all kind of related to what we've
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: already been talking about. I think it's there's been contact
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: made with various governments with multiple species of extraterrestrials. I
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: think that our government isn't hiding information so much as
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: told not to until they're ready for us to be ready,
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: which is coming and very soon, because there's you know,
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: the the litmus test is are we seeing more and
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: more and more and more sightings now we're getting if
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: we had that New Jersey incident in nineteen eighty, oh
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: my god, blown their minds. Absolutely right, But we're getting
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: desensitized for the boiling frog. We're just slowly warming up
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: and getting used to the temperature, and it's ramping up,
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: and there's going to be a time and you know,
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: I've heard, of course twenty twenty seven, but everybody likes
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: to throw out dates, you know. But it's kind of
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: looking like in the next year or two there's going
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: to be something official, official, and not not just a congressman,
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: you know, holding a skiff or whatever. It's going to
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: be you know, real undeniable, unshakable fact that they do
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: exist and they are here, and that's gonna they're you know,
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: they're just waiting for the world population to be ready
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: because it's not an American thing, it's a global, global thing.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: We don't know what's going on in China, you know,
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: they don't you know, or North Korea. They don't tell
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: us anything about what's going on. So it could be
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: you know, double what we know of out there already,
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: and it's getting more. So I think I think that
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: New Jersey thing was not really a show of force,
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: but just a show of existence on a scale that's
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: hard to reconcile. A lot of the drones quote unquota,
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: and they're quoting them, you know, they're calling them drones
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: because they don't know what else. Toll call it nothing.
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: Landed and walked out and said, well, you know, pound
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: on this, nuts and bolts.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: There.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: These are not American or or you know, human made drones.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: I think that they're the majority. Yes, there are drones
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: out there, looking at the non drone drones, you know,
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: So I think it's I think it's just one of
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: those things that it's a stepping stone. They're building up
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: the resistance. We're getting used to seeing this stuff now.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Right, it's right, it's there's a lot of there's a
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: lot of the I didn't even I'm not even a
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: religious guy, but there's a lot of like like satanic
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: like stuff being like thrown out there. Just all the
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: music is so hyper sexual and I'm not and I'm
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: a I'm a metal head. Guys. You used to you
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: heard my injer I love metal. I played guitar by
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: maybe okay, and uh, I love it. And you know
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: for years that you know, you know, bands like Slayer
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: and stuff, I just always thought that was silly stuff.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Never got into that, you know, like what they but
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: you see it now it has kind of pushed itself
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: over into the pop culture. It's like they had that
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: was it not Travis Bickle, that's the guy from Taxi Triver,
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: But there was this Travis concert where he it was
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: a a black gentleman and it was like all satanic
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: and a lot of people Travis Scott, thank you da
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: look at you all, got your pulse, got your finger
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: on the pulse of America. And you see like this
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: slow rolling out of accepting ideas that in the past
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: would be completely unaccepted. So it's it's it's it's so
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: oh my god. The German word hit my fifthfish. It's
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: so many late avenues approach at the same time to
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: get us desensitized everything, like you know, if you agree with.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: Well concert, it was the part that was coming through,
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: which is a very low, low vibrational uh hearts for
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: the music that was literally zoning them out in the
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: zombie land like where that's why there was so much
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: fighting And it's just that, you know, people described it
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: as it felt surreal. It was, and it was like
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: they were being hypnotized. Yeah, literally being hypnotized.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Just to give you like a little bit of like
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: an idea, Like I'm a metal guy, so I go
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: to a metal concerts like all the time when I
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: was younger in Germany. I mean mosh pits, wall of Death,
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: let's go, you know. And even in the mosh pit,
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: when someone fell down, they would be picked up, and
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: if they didn't, there's been so many times where the
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: band would stop and they always say either you pick
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: him up or we're done, and they get off the stage.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: And then I would go to with my with my
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: African American friends in the military. Hey man, let's go
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: to a hip hop place. There was always always some
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: fisticuffs going on, always and it's just like I thought
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: the music I listened to was the evil stuff, it's not.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: It's it's you know, to four thirty two, the four
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: forty shift, you know when they change the music to
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: make because four thirty two is in harmonization, it's divided
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: by eight and harmonization with the planet. And then the
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: music is now where it makes you uncomfortable. It's really it.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Makes and it really and it really focuses on the
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: male population to cause aggressiveness. It really it targets that
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: nervous system and men specifically that makes them aggressive.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: It's a suppression of positive male things like protecting your family,
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: standing of the rights, uh you know, uh, having a
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: weapon in your house, right, and then making the women population.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: You see all the superhero movies, it's just women beating
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: the hell out of guys and you're just like, you know,
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: I'm okay, you know. And then so they'll go, you know,
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: men are bad. And then they'll go, you know, by
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: the way, you know this too, what you're saying that,
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: so they'll take they want to suppress the positive male
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: things which there are, and then raised of negative male
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: things and then women go. Then then the cyclogen de
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: feeds itself. We're in a loop of like being like
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: if you go on Facebook and you're just like you
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: agree with whatever it is, what, then you'll get You'll
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: be thrown into this, you know, this algorithm of just
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: seeing that thing and you're like, this is ridiculous.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: And then they then then they they act like that's
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: that male men being men are a toxic masculinity, which
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: is not true. And what's happening is is women, is
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: that men are giving into that that thought and then
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: becoming more feminine, which they're not protecting their families, they're
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: not doing leadership, they're.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Not Then you have the men on the spectrum who
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: are a little bit more even say for example, they
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: are a little bit more quote unquote toxic. Remember words
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: there are there are human right, Remember what language is.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: Languages symbols like rooms that are also ideas and concepts
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: and sounds put together. So if you change idea, then
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: you change the vibration. And then the people who are
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: a little bit more in a spectrum, who are more aggressive,
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: become more aggressive and then they go, look there it
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: is and the rest of us, you know, the ones
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: in the middle, like myself and Joe and whoever, then
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: you have debates.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: You know, I can't remember the terminology, but what you
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: just described is an academic and academia that is a
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: terminology that they use, and the powers that be use
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: our language against us, and that is the beginning of
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: the fall of civilization as we know it, because nothing
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: is what it is anymore. They just completely rewrite what
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: are terms and meaning and language means to where you
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: don't even know what you don't even want to say it,
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: you know, because you're gonna say it wrong, you.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Know, exactly, And we are I love how we're just
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: touching around the circles. Joe, go ahead, please, fuddy please.
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely nineteen eighty four.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like where the truth is now the dangerous thing,
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: and to say the truth you are then marginalized, you know,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: like you know, I don't I want to say I
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: would give a shit. Who likes it? Honestly, this is
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: my channel. I have a daughter and she's she's really
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: trying hard to be a basketball player. She really loves
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: playing basketball. It's her thing. It gets her in the
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: community and it's awesome. And the kids now are playing
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: together because they're eight, nine, ten years old. It's no
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: big deal. But when you get to a certain level,
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: I do not want her to be playing with dudes, right,
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: And that's all I got to say all that, because
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: what is her what is her motivation when gets there
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: and they're just like, well, you know, I'm not gonna
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: be able to do anything anyway. It's uh, it's it's
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: beyond the pale on that, you know, it's beyond the
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: pale my opinion. Remember the pale guys is Dublin, and
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: beyond the pale is outside of Dublin.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: Just for the people, Hey, I do want I do
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: wanted to put a little gesture in there concerning the
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: drones in New Jersey that I just think it was
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: a dress rehearsal. I don't really. I don't believe it
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: was otherworldly. It was just like almost well, first of all,
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: I think it's just like a sy off, and I
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: believe that it was just like the Miami, the Miami,
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: you know where the it was just like that. They're
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: just wanting our reaction. Okay, So just like with the
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: Epstein files, what are we really gonna do about it?
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: If they are aliens, what are we really gonna do?
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: They're not worried about getting them. They're not worried about
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: what our reactions are going to be, because they are
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: the powers that be. They are just they're just they're
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: they're all this technology that we're seeing. Most of it.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: I think they're just showing off. I think they're just like,
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: look what we got, you know what I mean? Just
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: like the UFO disclosure with Steven Spielberg. Now do you know,
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: I know for a fact because I listen to this
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: stuff and I have a memory that's like a steel trap.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: But originally he was going to release that on fourth
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: of July, that movie that was the if you go
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: looking back, you can probably google it. And then all
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: of a sudden, with the disclosure and the congressional hearings,
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: then all of a sudden he was going to announce
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: it when the UFO files came out. It's all a stage.
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: They're all in it together. Spilberg. Did you know that
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: when he did the first one, what was the Close
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: Encounters of the Third Kind, Doctor Heinek from Project Bluebeam
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: was his consultant.
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: Can't make this shut up? Yeah, And that's what he knew.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: He was on the inside. He knew it wasn't because
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: he had this he was. He is a genius, but
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: it was because he had the inside trader knowledge he
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: was getting straight from doctor Heinek, which later actually his
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: whole goal for Project Bluebeam was to call this conspiracy
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: theorists and to shoot anybody down that had an experience.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: But do you know at the end of his domain,
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: he actually stood up to the United States government and
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: said I'm out, and he actually became a believer.
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: Yes, Jack was the French doctor on the Close Encounters
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: of the Third Time.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And at the world is a stage. We
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: are sitting here. It's like we're in this big coliseum
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: watching it all go down. It's a whole bullshit. So
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: if you ever get freaked out about it, But we
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: can't change any of it anyway. The only thing we
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: can change is the way we perceive things. And what
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: people do not understand is like when you were talking,
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: and this is what I wanted to interact with, was
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: when you said something about being religious and you're seeing
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: all these things going down? What if? What if the
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: powers that be have for six thousand years, I'll go back,
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: made us believe revelations, the you know, all the things
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: that are going down, the apocalypse, what if was all
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: that was bullshit from the beginning to make us believe
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: what is being orchestrated right now is literally going down
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: step by step in the playbook, because they can't do
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: anything without our beliefs, without our and because they're you know,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: like the loos that they that they channel and the
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: fear and the belief system which is all agrigoric. So
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: we believe all this stuff because it's what was written
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: down in the you know, the millennia, and that's what
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: most of the people, the most of the masses believe.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: We are on the verge of an apocalypse. I mean,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of people that are waking up and
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: knowing better than that. But what if this is all
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: just in a playbook, you know what I mean? And
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: they're using our belief system against us because it's what
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: we believe and it's all fear based. So I say
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: that we need to break free from that belief system
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: and start using discernment, because today it is not enough
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: to think about something, and it's good to have critical
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: thinking skills, but you have got to have discernments. What
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: that is telling you inside your gut, not what the
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: media is telling you, what not what social media, not
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: what Joe over here is talking about, not nothing about you.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: What you talking about, Joe, Come.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: On courgitating with the evolution of the story, you know
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: what I mean? And I think that we don't know
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: our own power. But there are people that are realizing
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: their own power, and that's they know their days are numbered.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: Because as soon as that we that we break through
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: this belief the bullshit over the situation.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: So okay, well, well we'll get straight to disclosure. Okay,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: for for let's say, for instance, for sake of argument,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: it happens tomorrow where the wildest hard disclosure we could
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: think of happened.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: I haven't seen the Disclosure movie yet. I've been too busy.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: I haven't really watched much of anything I.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Got.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: You imagine that, you know, we're making our own stories up.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: Incredible incident happened on live TV. The worldwide is experiencing
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: the same whatever broadcast or whatever info download dump, whatever
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: you want to call it, and disclosure has been released.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: They we've seen aliens on TV. We've seen you know,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: governments shaking hands with them. And okay, so once we're
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: past that initial shock, I think the reality of the
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: galactic Federation or whatever fancy name you want to call it.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: Cards I think, I think our neighborhood in general, the
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: galactic neighborhood in general, is far crazier than we could
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: possibly imagine. And all of this stuff, like everything that
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: we've ever heard, is actually all true in some in
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: some form or fashion, might be exaggerated a little bit
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: or changed by the government to make it a little
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: bit more palatable or whatever. But I think that after disclosure,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: it's not like the Age of Aquarius. But I think
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: that humanity in general is going to be like their
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: mind's going to expand a little bit more into being
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: able to uh not join the join the galactic Federation.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: But since since we're all aware of it, it becames
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: you know, when you're like synchronicity, when you hear a
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: new word, you hear that same word five times that day, right,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: And so when you when you need a new galactic neighbor,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: it becomes you in your awareness, in your zeitgeist, and
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: that awareness is now permanent, And the more you learn
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: about it, the bigger against.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: The only push the pushback I have against that, Joe,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: if you know't mine is if if say, for example,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: like you're saying that all of a sudden, there's this
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: you know, huge download dump where all the world leaders
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: are sitting together and talking, and uh, there's you know,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: Clark is up there talking, you know, and he's got
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: a translator or whatever whatever it looks like. Would you
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: believe it? No?
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't either.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: How do we know it's not AI? How do we
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: know it's not holographic?
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: Well, Jesus came back today, it's going to be How
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: would you? How would you?
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: But we are holographic. If you want to go into holographic.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's go, baby, let's go do it.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: So, I mean, we're rendering in real time our reality
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: around us, and if we don't see it, it doesn't
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: exist until we want it to. Because you're saving frame
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: rate and data because there's only so much data that
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: you can have, and the more information you're pumping through,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: the slower it gets. So we reduce our awareness on
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: purpose a filter to increase right. Right, So it's just
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: how a computer works. If I'm playing a video game,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: the video game doesn't render the whole map in every detail.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: It only renders what you need to see. So what
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: I'm actually writing a little bit about that in my
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: short stories about uploading the mind and what is really reality.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: I'm actually getting my feet wet in the little sci
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: fi genre like what Joseph is. Very good, very various
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: school in that. But you know, one of the things
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: I have a problem with this disclosure, since you brought
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: it up, is that they've already prompted, you know, thousands
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: and thousands of war of religious leaders to give them
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: the heads up. I think it was April twenty ninth,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: but then they actually called them together to tell them, oh,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: by the way, you need to start, you know, basically
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: brainwashing your flock because they're sheep. Nothing against the Christians,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: but it's all religions. The Bible was wrong about that
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: because they're getting ready to come here and they're the
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: ones that created us. So now we got a new
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: storyline that everybody's supposed to believe. Hook line and Sinker.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: I'm not buying it. So I guess they're holographic too,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: all right, And that's the message that we're getting ready
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: to get spoon fed, and I don't buy it.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I think there's there's pieces of the
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: puzzle that we're not seeing and definitely and it's it's
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: it's instinctive to automatically jump towards the I'm being controlled,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: I'm being brainwashed. I think the government knows less than
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: we think they do. And they're in the exact same
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: position that everybody else is. They're being told what to do.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: They're powerless against any Any extraterrestrial that happens to come
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: to Earth is far more powerful than all of our
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: nations combined. So when they come down and say, don't
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: say anything to your population, let's make a deal. I'll
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: give you technology, you know they're getting a count out
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: to it. They're going to have to.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: If that's the case, then why have we And there's
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: been a lot of people that like Bob Lazarre and
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: stuff that have worked in Phil Schneider's another one that
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: talk about how we have killed several alien grays and
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: we have dissected them, and we have done all kinds
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: of weird, funky experiments on them. We've even done hybrid
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: experimentation with with part of their DNA and stuff. So
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: if they're so powerful, then why are they laying in
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: labs being dissected and being pulled out a saucer at
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: Roswell and taken to Fort right, Uh Air Force Base
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: and Dayton.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: But they're they're not. They're not immortal, they're not gods.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: They're not.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: But they're trying to tell us they are.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: Their their meat puppets, you know, their their consciousness might
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: exist out of their meat puppet body, and so they don't.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: And they know more about that than we do. Where
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: we fear that death their their meat puppets. We can
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: kill them and it doesn't matter. They're not even mad
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: about it because you know, like breaking a pencil, they'll
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: just speak a new one and start writing again. So
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: I don't really think that there. I mean, their their
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: power is in their technology, but not their physical beings.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: And so we can kill them, they can kill us, certainly.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: Have you ever heard of have you ever heard of
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: Rudolph Steiner? But I can't remember, Okay, So he was uh,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: he was actually one of Hitler's worst enemies and he
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: was Australian and he did this he started the religion
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: Theosophical Theosophical Society, and he did a lot of predictions,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: including the COVID vaccine, and really a genius like way
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: before his time. But he was actually really into gnostic teachings,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: and he talks about a day when there's going to
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: come a time when humanity is going to be really
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: literally split in two classifications. One is going to be
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: organic humans where they go within their celves to develop
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: the technology that we're talking about that these all powerful
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: beings have. And then they're going to be other classification
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: of humans that are going to choose the technology that
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: some are taking inwardly and developing those gifts naturally, and
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: they're going to go on the outside of them and
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: they're going to basically take the microchip. I mean, it
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: describes it all the way down to the tee, which
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: is going to be all about the technology and all
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: connected to transhumanism, and it's all going to be connected
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: with these gods that are coming from the sky and
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: they're going to usher that in. So we are going
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: to be at a crossroads in humanity where you're literally
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: going to have organic humans, which is already happening, and
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: inorganic humans. Have you heardcept that technology? The technology?
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, I have that.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a he's a futurist, a transhumanist, just or
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: more that. Yeah, Yeah, he wants to upload onto computers,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: and that's that's his route immortality. That's not his only goal.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: But to be talking about mosque no who Kerswell, okay.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: Well they've already done it. There's a native not a
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: Native American, a uh afro American man. I think it
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: was in nineteen twenty three. He was the first one
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: that took the the brain, the neuralink and in the
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: basis of that is being. You can see it in
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: his eyes. You can look it up. He looks does
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: not look human anymore. But it was because of the
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: all's timers and dementia. That's the thing that they're gonna
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: tell us that this can cure Alzheimer's, it can cure stagers,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: that can cure you know, dementia. And so they they
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: literally go in right here and they thrill, and they
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: put that chip in there, and they're no one to
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: live organically human who wants to already happening.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: I uncertainly do not want to live forever, man. I mean,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: I gotta eat chicken and drink coffee till the end
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: of time.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: And what I'm kind of like living in purgatory.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: If you upload your mind to hard drive, your flesh
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: is no longer a problem, and you can exist and
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: replicate as many times, you know, get new bodies or whatever.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: You could travel across the universe.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: I enjoy that. I enjoy this, you know, I got
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: it from the Lion King. I enjoy the circle of life.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: You know that there's a beauty to this and the
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: simplicity of passing down because that's what they want to
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: They don't want you to pass down information, the information
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: that you have. They want to change all that information
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: so that you know that that you and your child
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: can't we'll be talking about the same thing essentially, but
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: won't be because you'll have two different data points. And
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: that's exactly all.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: Lost.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And if we really believe our consciousness continues, why
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: wouldn't we want to go to the next level? And naturally,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: why do we want to hold on to it? And
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: being control of everything?
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: It's all about fear. That is fear because everything dies. Now,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: if it's everything dies, why should I be afraid of it?
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: Right? Right?
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's there's going to be a sunrise tomorrow.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: Why am I afraid of that? I'm not afraid of that.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: I shouldn't be afraid for my next sunrise or.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: The time you or you're going to go to sleep tonight?
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: Better? Better?
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a better, that's a better analogy. You know
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: you're going to eventually go to sleep? Are you afraid
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: to go to sleep? Because I always think, you know,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: sleep is just practicing for death and then one day
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: you yeah, you just go. You know, why do you
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: sleep so much? Just practicing, just practicing. Yeah, maybe one
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: day I'll get perfectly. You know. You guys are just
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: you know, have a have a dance recital in my name.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: But you know it's all cool.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: Uh, that's my point. If if please, if everybody's gonna
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: have to do it, and there's no choice. Uh, there
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: are people who's going to try to stave stave it off,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: but there's no need to fear. And I think if
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: you're on the conspiracy side of things, maybe that fear was.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: Induced six thousand years ago.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: One thousand years ago, was given to us. We were
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: told something that made us controllable by that fear.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: Interesting because because I'm also a person who who is
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: a an avid, I wouldn't called a fan or interested
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: in hidden history. I don't think this is what they've
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: told us is not true. And I'm not talking about
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: you know, six thousand years ago. I'm talking hundreds of
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: thousand years ago. I'm talking you know, the Sphinx with
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: the million.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: In that thought, I go way back, like millions and
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: millions of years.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: I'm just looking at the sphinx enclosure. Man, That's all
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: I'm doing. That's all I need.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: We're definitely not the first civilization on this planet, and
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: our civilizations are separated by big epochs of.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: Time, catastrophic events, maybe catastrophic.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: Events possibly even reaching a technology level to leave our planet.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: Ooh right and just never come back. In the remnants
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: of the society that stayed are living in Mount Shasta
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: or whatever.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: No, Rudolf, and this is what Rudolf Steiner talks about
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: in his lectures. And this is what Rudolf Steiner talks
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: about his lectures. And there's a woman named gig Young
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: that lectures on his lectures, and she's very good, and
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: she talks about like our consciousness, you know, like me
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: and you and Joseph. You know, basically when it started
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: back and let's just say Lamria, that we weren't in
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: our physical form the way we are now. It was
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: more amphibious, but our consciousness was in that I guess
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: manifestation of the human consciousness at the time, and then
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: after La Maria, then it was Atlantis, and then we've
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: evolved into what we are today, you know, and I
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: and so those are in the Gnostic teachings of Rudolph Steinery.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: He talks a lot about that, Like I'm talking hundreds
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: of hours of lectures about that. It's really and he
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: calls it like the epoxy epoxy of what that particular
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: civilization brought forth, you know, just like learning fire or
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: learning the basics, or becoming one with the water, you
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: know what I mean, and so on and so on,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: and so you know, when you really look at the
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: grand scheme of things of with that thinking that that
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: could possibly be a possibility or consciousness, why would you
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: want to trap that in some kind of a computer
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: that you're never going to get out of you I mean,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: you talk about hell. I mean, because you know, if
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: they can control what your consciousness is experiencing. Sure, you
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: might be at the beach and might be having, you know,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: all this great stuff happening, but they turn the scenario into.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: That's what always bothered me, which has always bothered me
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: because I'm not a religious person, and if you look
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: at you know, Judeo Christian values and even Muslims to
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: an extent, they always talk about the concept of heaven
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: and hell. Okay, so heaven is this divine place that
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  Speaker 2: you go to and you live for an eternity. You
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  Speaker 2: live in eternity. That to me is hell. Yes, I
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  Speaker 2: don't care how beautiful it is. I don't care. You
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  Speaker 2: know how how how often can I play racketball with
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  Speaker 2: my grandmother and go to the park and eat ice cream?
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  Speaker 2: It will kill you?
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  Speaker 4: Man, You've done everything, you know everything?
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  Speaker 2: What's I love you? Jesus, Hey, this is great, thank
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  Speaker 2: you for this. You know, I love that. This is
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  Speaker 2: you know. I understand the concept of one you see
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  Speaker 2: your loved ones. I get that. But the whole concept
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  Speaker 2: of existing forever in some state of consciousness. It's like
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  Speaker 2: you were saying, it's you're you're brought it up really great,
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  Speaker 2: really well, both of you. This concept of like the
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  Speaker 2: six thousand years ago, this is our idea, and now
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  Speaker 2: it's like this computer concept, which is basically the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: Why would you want that? I don't want to exist
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  Speaker 2: in this form and I definitely don't want to exist
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  Speaker 2: in a conscious form knowing you know that that my
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  Speaker 2: loved ones are gonna perish it and come hang out
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  Speaker 2: with me. I don't want to be around my uncle forever.
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  Speaker 2: I'm cool.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm too curious. Yeah too, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I'm too curious.
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  Speaker 3: You know what's interesting that like with the people go ahead,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm not.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not curious to it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, everything runs its course, you know, like if you
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  Speaker 2: take the if you put the thing in the oven
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  Speaker 2: and then you take it out early, it's not going
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  Speaker 2: to be a cake. You want to see its natural
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  Speaker 2: course of the action. Is it a good cake or not?
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  Speaker 2: But you gotta let the cake bake. There's a part
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  Speaker 2: of that. You don't want to know what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: You know. It's like that that stupid Garth book Songs
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  Speaker 2: of the Dance. If you knew everything that's going to happen,
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  Speaker 2: then there's no sense of existing. If you know that
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  Speaker 2: you're going to live forever, that that is bothersome to me.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know why it just it just simply
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  Speaker 2: is it makes no sense to me. Please please d
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  Speaker 2: is she gone? Oh?
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  Speaker 4: She looks.
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  Speaker 2: Huh. She thinks she froze. All right, well we're running
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  Speaker 2: towards the conversation as well. Kind of right. I think
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  Speaker 2: it really went to a really cool place. I really
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  Speaker 2: enjoyed it. Hopefully she comes back before I end the program.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: But Joseph, could you please tell people warmre time where
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: they can find your books? My friend?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I have a link tree, which is you know,
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  Speaker 4: h T t PS forward slash for slash, link tree,
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  Speaker 4: ford slash, jsalid dot com or just js salad sorry,
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  Speaker 4: or you can go to Jshallett dot which goes to
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 4: my blog and from there you can find all my
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 4: books wall so, but yeah, the link tree, the link
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 4: tree link is probably the easiest and most direct way
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 4: to get to my stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah you can.
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  Speaker 1: You can.
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  Speaker 4: Simply go to Google or go to go to Kindle
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 4: and look at my name. You'll find all my stuff there.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 4: I'm on. All my books are available on Kindle and
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: Kindle unlimited paperback and Audible, fantastic whatever whatever flavor you
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: like to take.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard that, Da, but I
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: love where the conversation went, and we went to some
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: really cool places. I love like we can just we
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: can agree and disagree with each other and like, really,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: go oh, I never thought of that. Whoa, that's cool,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: and go all over the place. I really appreciated da
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: please cover whatever they can find you.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know what, lately, I've been looking up on
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: Google and I'm everywhere. I literally ever everywhere. But you
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: can find me on Amazon, and I would love it
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: if you followed my work there because the latest updates
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: and everything on there. I do need to get an
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: author page together. I just haven't gotten that far. Maybe
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: this summer I'll work on that. You can. You can
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: follow me on Instagram, on Facebook. I'm really big on
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: TikTok too. I'm not so much on X anymore. I
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: just don't have the time, but I do, you know,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: keep my work that I've got going on going through
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: on those platforms. So and I share all my latest
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: updates and stuff like that, and sometimes we go for
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: a topic of discussion such as this. So it has
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: been really fun.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: I appreciate both of you coming on today. It's been
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: a blast, honestly. Yeah. See Joe, you said, she was like, oh,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: he's a little bit shy in the camera, but dude,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: you were inside.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm just really acting.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: Very well I'll reach out to you again. We can
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: get on and we can talk about whatever you like
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: to talk about. Because you, uh you, uh you took
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: me down some cool alleyways that were a little dark
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: or that didn't even know existed. I thought it was
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: in like some Tokyo like a suburb, going like you
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: like it down here to have the best noodles. I'm like, fantastic.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 4: Like taking people down dark places.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like to take them down the dark place,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: let them know they're there, but also let them know
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: the light is within side of them. And that's that's
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: important that you guys have both the messages there. Be aware,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: but also know that the light is inside of you.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: Don't let them take that.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: We have more power than we realize.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, I agree that.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: Thank you all. Thank you both very much for coming on.
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  Speaker 2: You guys. We are the eye. Absolutely, we are the eye.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: We are aware. I love you all and enjoy the
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: rest of your day, night, week, and wherever it does
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: come from.
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  Speaker 3: Later