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  Speaker 1: Goldsmith socks, Volty socks. I mean it's just like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I grew up a Red Sox man, I hate them
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  Speaker 1: the Yankees, and I wouldn't want to play for them.
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  Speaker 1: Good on you mate, like I love it.
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  Speaker 2: Happy Monday, busy weekends, got a lot to do. I
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  Speaker 2: got one thing real quick. So on Instagram, have you
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  Speaker 2: ever gone to the request section where people will send dms?
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  Speaker 2: And sometimes it's real, but ninety five percent of the
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  Speaker 2: time it's bots. Have you ever seen that section on
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  Speaker 2: your Instagram dms?
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  Speaker 1: I'll show you, like the hidden section like requests and
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  Speaker 1: then yeah, like hidden.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because they think that most of them are bots,
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  Speaker 2: but occasionally go on there and it is somebody that
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  Speaker 2: gets do want to miss? Okay, Well, I'm clearing out
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  Speaker 2: my inbox and one of them is a group send
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  Speaker 2: out and there's three people on there. One was a
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  Speaker 2: random name and then it's me and Justin Steele. I'm
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  Speaker 2: just like, so this bot combinds me and Justin Steele
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  Speaker 2: from the Cubs. I just thought it was weird and
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  Speaker 2: that you'd want to hear it. I'm like, where does
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  Speaker 2: this bot get that? Are they watching a lot of
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  Speaker 2: Marquee and they're watching the show there, it must be weird.
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  Speaker 2: How was Padres Brewers?
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  Speaker 3: Padres Brewers is a great game walk off Homer like
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  Speaker 3: Caleb Durban didn't have that on my Bengo car. And honestly,
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  Speaker 3: right before What's funny is right before he did that,
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  Speaker 3: I forget who the picture was. I was, like I
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  Speaker 3: said on the air, every I didn't even get the
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  Speaker 3: sentence finished. Every guy that the Padre's bring out their
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  Speaker 3: bullpen is really good. Whack first pitch, Palmer, I mean
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  Speaker 3: after McGill, Blewett relics the rise of a huge hit
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  Speaker 3: to tie the game. It was a great atmosphere. It
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  Speaker 3: was sold out, its Cheerio Jersey night Brewers one. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I love going to Milwaukee. I do the weather. Oh
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  Speaker 3: it was like seventy degrees. It was beautiful, the roof
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  Speaker 3: was open. But getting to Milwaukee is not the easiest
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  Speaker 3: place in the world to come to, no for minute.
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  Speaker 3: And I was coming from Vegas, so it was even
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  Speaker 3: more difficult.
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  Speaker 2: Do they have direct No, Gosh, there's no direct from
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  Speaker 2: here either.
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  Speaker 1: Is there is Southwest? You know me, I ain't taking over,
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  Speaker 1: not unless it's a one. You're an a one guy.
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  Speaker 1: You're an a one guy even that I ain't taken Southwest. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: sorry you.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I will only absolutely take Southwest if there
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  Speaker 3: is no other way for me to get there. But
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  Speaker 3: I will say this, I got to see two concerts
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  Speaker 3: this last week. It was unbelievable. Kenny Chesney anything in
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  Speaker 3: the sphere is amazing. Kenny Chesney in the sphere unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: Then I went to Coldplay, and I am not a
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  Speaker 3: Coldplay guy at all, Like I saw them in concert
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  Speaker 3: now I'm a fan. It was the best concert I've
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  Speaker 3: ever seen. Best dude, Chris Martin, the lead singer, is
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  Speaker 3: one of the most talented human beings I've ever seen him,
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  Speaker 3: and he was so personable and did some things. At
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  Speaker 3: one point, he messed up Yellow, which is like one
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  Speaker 3: of the most famous songs. They had the wave going
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  Speaker 3: in the stadium. It was in the Raiders stadium, had
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  Speaker 3: the wave going before the show. I mean it was
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  Speaker 3: it was interactive, like they had wristbands where everyone had
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  Speaker 3: to hold up their arms at certain times.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, and do all this stuff.
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  Speaker 3: But Chris Martin messed up Yellow, which is like one
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  Speaker 3: of their most famous songs, and he stopped and he's like.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, before you guys put this on YouTube. I messed
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  Speaker 1: up the words I know, and he started over and
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  Speaker 1: sang it again.
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  Speaker 2: That's great.
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  Speaker 1: It was.
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  Speaker 3: It was like he brought a random fan on the
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  Speaker 3: stage and had them sing with them, like I mean.
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  Speaker 1: It was. It was. I want to go see him again.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm serious, Like I've never I never liked Coldplay
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  Speaker 3: at all. I mean, you know their songs because you
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  Speaker 3: hear them and they're so popular. But until I saw
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  Speaker 3: them in first, I had no idea Chris Martin was
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  Speaker 3: that talented of a human being. I mean he's saying
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  Speaker 3: he played guitar, then he switched the piano, then he
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  Speaker 3: would I mean he was like Mick Jagger running around
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  Speaker 3: for two hours NonStop.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, sell out stadiums like it's nothing. So now
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  Speaker 2: you know why.
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  Speaker 1: It's It's the best show I've ever seen. I've seen
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  Speaker 1: a lot of shows. It's the best show I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: And I will fix you. Yeah, yes, that's right. They
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  Speaker 1: fixed me. Okay, you changed my life.
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  Speaker 2: I'm putting it on my list.
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  Speaker 1: Yes yo.
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  Speaker 3: See they're in Miami, not in about a month. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: So I've come down highly recommend it, and I got
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  Speaker 3: to play Shadow Creek, which I also highly recommend.
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  Speaker 2: You had a good week by the way, just to
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  Speaker 2: extend it also on the Bruis Padre series because we're
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  Speaker 2: not gonna have time for it anywhere else. It was
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  Speaker 2: a good series in general. Right, the other two, I
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  Speaker 2: think we're one nothing and two nothing. Yeah, Friday was
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  Speaker 2: to nothing with the Rise of Machado. Yesterday it was
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  Speaker 2: just Machado with the Homer. It's good series. Those are
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  Speaker 2: those are pretty good teams. That's fun. Just wanted to
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  Speaker 2: give them some love because it was great.
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  Speaker 3: It was a great series. The whole series is great.
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  Speaker 3: Milwaukee's obviously great. Yeah, Murph, Murph, you know what crafts.
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  Speaker 3: Murph was in not a normal Murph mild mold mood.
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  Speaker 1: Though he was grumpy, he wasn't. Yeah he was. He
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  Speaker 1: wasn't as as energetic as he normally is. He was
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  Speaker 1: a little he was a little more subdued than Murph is.
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  Speaker 1: That was okay, we can all have those days. He's
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  Speaker 1: not big national media guys, so he's probably annoyed that
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  Speaker 1: you were there. He's more of a low key Midwest guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like paparazzi raiding the place.
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  Speaker 1: As I told him. He said something, and I go,
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  Speaker 1: you're the manager of the year, Murph, so you can
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  Speaker 1: do whatever you want.
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  Speaker 2: True.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't like that comment very much.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, he's like former, former, former, no current, he
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  Speaker 2: holds the current belt.
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  Speaker 1: He's a little pissy. I like that. I like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, so I'll transition us because this guy
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  Speaker 2: played for the Brewers for a while, made his money there.
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  Speaker 2: Let's charge big bucks given to Corbyn Burns in the offseason.
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  Speaker 2: And he's been a total workhorse. And then he goes
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  Speaker 2: out with the elbow injury and we're waiting a few
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  Speaker 2: days and Friday after the show we find out the
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  Speaker 2: news Tommy John surgery. He's probably going to miss what
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  Speaker 2: nowadays fourteen ish months. I mean, you're going deep into
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  Speaker 2: next year. It's a good hitch you come back twenty six. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so now you're looking at twenty seven. And he had
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  Speaker 2: been as advertised for a team that was off to him.
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  Speaker 2: Man start eleven starts to six six ERA one, fifty
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  Speaker 2: six ERA plus. He was great. Some other guys have
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  Speaker 2: been down. Down's not as good right now. Brandon Fott's
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  Speaker 2: not having a good year. They've made some mistakes signings.
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  Speaker 2: That's the first one. I said, Gallon down's been down.
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  Speaker 2: What happened, It'll come back. I don't think when he
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  Speaker 2: gets when he gets traded at that. So there we go.
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  Speaker 2: This happened a few days ago. Let's spin this forward.
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  Speaker 2: Where are we at on the Diamondbacks. They lost the
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  Speaker 2: series this weekend of Cincinnati. Right, they're thirty one and
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  Speaker 2: thirty four in twenty twenty three. Ken Rosenthal pointed this out.
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  Speaker 2: They had a seven and twenty five stretch and they
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  Speaker 2: made it to the World Series with a rotation of
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  Speaker 2: Gallon Kelly Fought. Just trying to paint the positives or
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  Speaker 2: are you gonna come smack me and say nope, they're
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  Speaker 2: trading away five assets at the deadline.
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  Speaker 1: I can't. I don't see it in that division and
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  Speaker 1: with this tug good as the National League is, I
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  Speaker 1: just don't see it. That's the problem. It's not the
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  Speaker 1: National League is so loaded.
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  Speaker 2: Who are they?
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  Speaker 3: They're better than the Giants the way they're playing right now? No,
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  Speaker 3: are they better than the Padres right now?
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  Speaker 1: No? Are they better than the Dodgers. There's three teams
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  Speaker 1: in their division that they're not better than.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't even get to the East with the Mets
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  Speaker 1: in Phillies.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe by the way, we can cook the braves.
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  Speaker 1: Braves cook, Sorry, Claude Producer, We'll get to them. Braves
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  Speaker 1: are cooked.
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  Speaker 3: But but then the Cubs Brewers even Yeah, but the
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  Speaker 3: Diamondbacks can get in a cardial card.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I just named eight teams that are better than them.
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  Speaker 2: You think they're all better than them? You think the
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  Speaker 2: Brewers are definitely better than.
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  Speaker 1: The right now, the way the Diamondbacks are playing, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But if some starters bounce backcrats, do you think that
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  Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks are okay? Or do you think they're going
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  Speaker 2: to be selling because they do actually have a lot
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  Speaker 2: to sell because they have free agency looming for starters
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  Speaker 2: like Merril, Kelly, Zach Gallen, Josh Naylor, for furs base
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  Speaker 2: Gino Suarez, and then you know Shelby Miller's actually pitched
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  Speaker 2: really well out of the bullpen. They've only had a
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  Speaker 2: few guys that have pitched well out of the bullpen,
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  Speaker 2: which is part of the problem. But where are you
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  Speaker 2: at on them?
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  Speaker 1: Just it's so hard to see a lineup like this
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  Speaker 1: that with Marte back, it's healthy. They're gonna bludgeing you
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  Speaker 1: to death. And I don't think I don't think the
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  Speaker 1: starters are as bad as they're pitching. Merrill Kelly's elite.
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  Speaker 1: One outing, I mean, no hitter go on the other
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  Speaker 1: day he's down another outing. I just what AJ said
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  Speaker 1: is so hard for me to see them climbing out
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  Speaker 1: of this division because they have to play in this division.
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  Speaker 1: If they were in the Central, could they could they
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  Speaker 1: hang around longer? Maybe you have to play such good
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  Speaker 1: baseball because of all those teams that you're gonna play. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you got your laughers with the Rockies, but there's three
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  Speaker 1: teams above you have to play. They're obviously not going
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  Speaker 1: to catch those teams. I'm not saying that's what's that's
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  Speaker 1: what's going to hold them back. They have to catch
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  Speaker 1: all the other teams. I think they are better, obviously
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  Speaker 1: better than their record. But is that Gallon going to
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  Speaker 1: turn it around because he kind of did this a
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  Speaker 1: little bit last year. Is there something he doesn't believe
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  Speaker 1: in his stuff? Because his zone percentage change is like
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  Speaker 1: one of the highest out of zone percentage changes of
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  Speaker 1: pitches from last year to this year of any pitcher,
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  Speaker 1: Like he's throwing more pitches out of the zone. So
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  Speaker 1: when he has to come in the zone, he's getting hurt.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe he knows that if he throws in the zone,
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  Speaker 1: he's going to get hurt. I don't know what's happening
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  Speaker 1: with him, but he has to step up and be
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  Speaker 1: the ace. Has to.
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  Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna ask you guys both. Okay, I'm
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  Speaker 3: looking at the wildcard standings right now. Three get in right,
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: three wildcards right now? The Padres, Giants, Phillies are in.
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  Speaker 3: Are they better than those three?
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  Speaker 2: I think they could pass the Giants?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, they're six and a half behind them right now.
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Then there's the Cardinals, Brewers, Reds ahead of them.
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  Speaker 2: I think they are just as good as any of
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  Speaker 2: those teams. That they stay intact and get some so
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  Speaker 2: they're better.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to catch the Phillies or the Giants or
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  Speaker 1: the Padres.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's possible for them to catch one of
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  Speaker 2: those teams. Are most likely the Giants.
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  Speaker 1: And the Nationals are just like a game behind them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not in a good spot. They're thirty one
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  Speaker 2: and thirty four, no doubt.
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  Speaker 3: The Rocket is only twenty. The Rocky is only nineteen
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  Speaker 3: games behind them, so they might catch them too.
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  Speaker 2: They've made some mist wins.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, I know, expected wins isn't a real thing. It's
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  Speaker 1: exactly a thirty one and thirty four. They're playing exactly
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  Speaker 1: exactly what the record is like. They're not unlucky, they're
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  Speaker 1: maybe they're just not that good at pitching right.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Yeah they are. Are you going off run to pferential?
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  Speaker 2: By the way, the thagora?
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I mean that exact that yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay. By the way, they've made some sizeable investments
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: and starters over the last several years, and this year
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: they have their highest payroll ever until seven mil. What
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: did they do two years ago? Jordan Montgomery? But that's
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  Speaker 2: different from what I'm saying is it goes back what
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: six seven years ago? Madison Bumgardner. Huge bust. Jordan Montgomery
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  Speaker 2: has been a bust. Eduardo Rodriguez has been a massive
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  Speaker 2: bust that was brutal since stay healthy. No, but even
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  Speaker 2: when he is like he's he's pitched what eleven twelve
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  Speaker 2: starts this year? He looks awful except for the this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was his best start of the year,
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  Speaker 2: Like five innings, two runs. He just he doesn't look there.
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  Speaker 2: And now Corbyn, who was great but it's been a
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: work course.
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  Speaker 3: And the one that surprises me is the Gallon like look,
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  Speaker 3: I mean his statcast page is blue.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what happened to him. He was so
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: good for those few years. I mean like ridiculous, like
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: talking cy young good Yep.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he'd have I think I thought you'd have
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  Speaker 1: it this year when he gets traded.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if he gets traded, that would help things.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a it's a it's it's a
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  Speaker 1: bad division. It's a bad league this year. If you
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  Speaker 1: ever in the American League, I could say, all right,
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  Speaker 1: I could see him making a run. But the nationally,
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  Speaker 1: there's just too many good teams. The Giant this pitching
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  Speaker 1: is so good that I just don't know they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: fall apart. I know they don't score runs, but the.
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  Speaker 3: Giants, they always seem the way to find to walk
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  Speaker 3: off at least one opponent of a series. Sometimes too.
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: Sometimes it's like it's the crazy at the one. Remember
• 13:13
  Speaker 3: the infield park bunt for a little league home run?
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: They had the one with Ramos, and then they had
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: I mean the Chapman the wild pitch this weekend. It's
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  Speaker 3: like something with the Giants when they when they're right.
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's Buster Posey. Buster Posey has pixie dust or
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: ferry dust he puts on the field, because when Buster
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  Speaker 3: Posey was playing, they did the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's like always a weird.
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  Speaker 3: Walk off, but they just seem to do it. It's
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  Speaker 3: you look at their team, You're like how, but they
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: figure it.
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  Speaker 1: Out all right. So if we're saying the Giants are
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  Speaker 1: the exact opposite of the Diamondbacks AJ and then I'll
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  Speaker 1: ask you, Scott, which team would you rather have? A
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  Speaker 1: team that hammers the baseball and the pitching's man and
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: the team that pitches the baseball and the hittings man.
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  Speaker 1: Which would you rather have to win to win a
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: World Series? The one that pitches and the one that
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  Speaker 1: wins the games. I want the one that he can
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  Speaker 1: win the games. No, try to win the games. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: how many teams have we seen that can hammer the baseball?
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  Speaker 1: I go back to like the nineties, early two thousand
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  Speaker 1: Indians slash Guardians. They Manny told me Alamar Brothers all this,
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  Speaker 1: and they didn't win anything because they couldn't pitch.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but in recent history you definitely need both. I
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: feel like there's been more.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: Obviously, no pitching always wins, but like pitching.
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  Speaker 2: The Dodgers could bang last year. Who the Dodgers, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but look.
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  Speaker 1: At their Yeah, but their pitching was a lot better than.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: Their bullpen was awesome. Yes, the year before the Rangers,
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  Speaker 2: they could swing the bats.
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  Speaker 1: Two years ago, looking and what they're starting pitching. Did
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  Speaker 1: the Diamond back?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, But my thing is there are some good names
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  Speaker 2: like Merril Kelly could be a really good pitcher for
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: this team in a postseason. If Gallon bounces back, he's
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  Speaker 2: not thirty eight. If Gallon bounces back, Brandon fots got
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  Speaker 2: good potential. He's been off to a slow start. Just
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: saying I know I'm the one playing defense here. I'm
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: saying they're going to make the playoffs. To see it
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: this year, I think it's a good team. But you're right,
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: if they're five games out at the at the trade deadline,
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: they're going to be very popular because there aren't a
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: ton of really sexy names out there, and they could
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: really impact the playoff race.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: And they can impact their if they have to rebuild quickly,
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: because they have enough people to trade to make this
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: quicker go quicker, right or fast?
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: You could get yourself back in the mix next year,
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: because I mean, the offense is good.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: So I was talking to Obviously, I was in Milwaukee
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: this this weekend, right and Corbyn Burns was in Milwaukee
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: before he went to Baltimore, and I was talking to
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: some pitchers and I said, okay, so Corbyn's out for
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: the rest of this year, and then I said he's
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: probably out for next year. And we kind of walked
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: through it, and I was talking to some guys and
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: that it had Tommy John and some position players too.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: At Tommy John, I said, all right, why is it
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: an eighteen month process? Because remember I forget who we
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: had on They said, we could make it quicker with
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: the We could if we wanted to. And the people
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: I talked to said, it's not the fact that there's
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: pain in there, it's just the fact that there is.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: You just can't it doesn't feel right, Like it's not
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: a painful.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Strength, right, It's like they just know.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: They're like, you could probably come back in a yearish
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: if you pushed it, but there's just it doesn't feel right.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: They're like, I don't know how to explain it. If
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: you've never had it, it just doesn't feel the same,
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: and it takes you that extra four or five months
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: to kind of feel like I can let it go
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: and it's not going to blow up. And also like
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: just the way it feels coming at it. I don't know.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: I've never had it, cras you've never had it, right,
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: So I don't know. It's just what people were telling me,
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: because I was asking, like, why is the rehab not
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: evolved to something faster. Yeah, that's what he said.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: That's what he said.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: That's what he said.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: That's what he said. Tee trash talk. We love it.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: It's the regular season, It's the Yankees, Red Sox. Both
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: teams are good enough to be playoff contenders. Obviously, the
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Yankees are in really good shape. The Red Sox have
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: stumbled out of the gate, but they're still in a
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: position they can be a playoff team anyway. They met
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: up this weekend. Red Sox rookie Hunter Dobbins with this quote.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I've said it before that if the Yankees were the
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: last team to give me a contract, I'd retire. This
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: before his first career start against the Yankees, yesterday in
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: a win for the Red Sox. Judge got to him early. Dobbins,
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: by the way, is scheduled to join us on Thursday,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: I believe one fifteen Eastern on Thursday. Hearing Judge said quote,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: I've only heard Ken Griffey say that, so I was
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: a little surprised. Jazz Chisholm also saw the line and
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: before yesterday's game said, I think there should be more
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: trash talking baseball. Anyone agree anyway? Anyway, free smoke at seven?
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Love it?
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Okay, Let's first of all, let's give a little context
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: of this. Dobbins grew up a Red Sox fan. His
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: dad was a Red Sox fan, so his entire life
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: has been a Red as a Sock fan. Now he's
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: pitching for the Red Sox. So I Fke Carrero said
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: this too. Remember he said that he would griff I
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: remember Griffy was famous. But Grrero also said this. So
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of people for a long times that
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't play for him because of the facial hair.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: They've changed that now, but I don't know.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, it's a kid having fun saying what
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: he feels he want him to be transparent, let's do this.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: He wasn't taking a shot at like the white the
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Yankees players. He wasn't saying like Aaron Judge sucks and
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Jazz sucks, and Goldschmid sucks and Vulpi suck. I mean,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: it was just like, Hey, I grew up a Red
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Sox fan, I hate the Yankees and I wouldn't want
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: to play for him.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Good on you, mate, like I love it, be honest
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: and tell him what he's meaning. That's it, that's it.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: You like it cracked?
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's whether I like it or not.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: It's not something I would have said, because he always
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: needs Maybe that's the last name that will sign you
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: at some point, you never know. But I think it's
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: blown more out of proportion or maybe taken out of
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: context exactly what AJ said. He wasn't ripping on any
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: current player or past Yankee player. He was ripping on
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: the fact that it is the biggest rivalry in baseball.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: And if he grew up a Red Sox fan, he
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: now plays for the Red Sox, he should not like
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: the Yankees. That is okay for him to not like
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: the Yankees, even if you just got to the Red
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Sox and you just played for the Yankees. You should
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: not like him, Like maybe he's the only one that's
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: honest and everyone else is just soft and they're keeping
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: it to themselves.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Well, everyone else is trying to make sure that they
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: don't end up getting an offer from the Yankees in
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: free agency, and Hunter Dobbins is like, I'm goods, I'll
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: skip that Oneon FLA Gerrero changed his tune when he
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: got close to free Engine.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Remember he was like, oh.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Wait, I will play for them if I have to,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: so listen, don't ever say that. But I think it's
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: great that he did say that because he was honest.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: We went transparency.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of funny, I mean, and
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: then Judge hit a freaking nine hundred foot bomb off
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: of him in the game. So but of course on
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: the show.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Of course on the show they were like, oh, this
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: is because she said what he said about Like, no, I.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Had one had nothing to do with the other, but
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: it was good thinking that it did.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Tim Healy was recording on the game and apparently he
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: said like Yankee Fence didn't even really know about it.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: There wasn't like this you'd expect when you see that
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: all this booing. I think it also happened pretty quickly
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: that not a lot of people caught up to it.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Things do get buried on weekends as well. But some
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: people online were like, oh, I can't wait to see
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: how he gets received, Like it's not Soto coming back.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's a starting pitcher in the big leagues.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: He's not a superstar yet. And Judge is just the
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: best hitter on the planet. That's why he hit the
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: ball like a left He hit it to right field
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: over the bullpen, Like I don't understand how he does that.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: But all that to say, Ken Griffy, if you look
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: into it and Vladimir Guerrero, they might have a reason
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: of why they said it what they said. Hunter Dobbins
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: family just really liked the Red Sox, so that means
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: they really hated the Yankees.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: I love rivalries. Red Sox took two out of three
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: over the weekend.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they got didn't they get to free They
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: got to rend Rode on last night? Didn't they get
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: to freed too?
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: On Friday?
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: No?
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Am I wrong on that? No? No Yankees one on Friday? Oh,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: the Yankees one on Friday. Sorry, I had a long weekend.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonna say. Had a long weekend.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Yarborough pitched, Yeah, Yarborough freed pitch against Cleveland. That was Thursday.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: But Trevor Story had a big weekend. Narbaias, who was
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: in the Yankee system, bit him yesterday. Corey didn't know
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: if he was going to play him in that one,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: and then narbias that he was thinking about bunting and
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: you didn't three on Homer. They never looked back. Chapman
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: close them down in Game two. Yeah, Yankees. It was
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: nine to six on Friday. That's when Devin Williams pulled
• 22:08
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• 23:29
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. The thing that I think that's crazy about
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: if you watch cal Riley's homers or his games, how
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  Speaker 1: far I don't know if you've seen it. Aja, he
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: gets out in front of so many balls and he's
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  Speaker 1: still able to put it ten rows back like like
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: donkey pop he is. He has got that Yeah, big dumper.
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  Speaker 1: That's a big dumper. Mind.
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  Speaker 3: But you know how you hit home runs? Clip it
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: out front. That's how you hit on runs. Catch that
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: joke of clip it out front. You want to hit
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: home runs, you gotta clip it out front. You can't
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: be afraid to swing and miss, which he's not afraid
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: to do. But if you want to hit home runs,
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: you got to really focus on clipping the ball front,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: because your launch angle is not started here. Contrary to
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: whatever certain hitting coaches say. Your launch angle is here.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: You clip it here, like out in front. So like
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: instead of clipping it back here, you clip it out here,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: and that's your bets on the way up.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: That's where you catch the launch. A let's not back
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: here where you dip the barrel and go like this,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: that's not it. You got to catch it out front.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: That's how you get launch angle. Unless you're Aaron Judge
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: is just stronger than everybody. Right, here's a whole different
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: animal of a player.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Yep, I agree. Hot corner let's says, well, the Braves
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: fell apart. They've lost seven straight, they've dropped fourteen of seventeen.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I think Ken Rosenthal Fair Territory today said they are
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: nine and nineteen in one run games. Yes, that's like
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: the Red Sox.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: The Red Sox are terrible in one run games too.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like every game lately is a walkoff
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: loss for them.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: You have a different win. But they were up six
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: runs of the ninth and lost that one was like okay,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: and then they got by the Giants, and then they
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: got swept by the Giants. Walk off, wild pitch, walk
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: off matcheap man.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, they're inventing ways to lose at this point,
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: and there's nothing it As a team crouch you can
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: speak on this too, like there comes a point where
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: you're on this team and you're going, all right. You
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: get to the ballpark and you're thinking, man, how are
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: we going to figure out how to lose this one today?
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: And once you have a six run lead the night
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: that game's locked, you're already thinking about what you're having
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: for dinner after the game.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I don't don't forget. How's a getaway day? They were
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: getting away and going to San Francisco. Don't tell me
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: certain series or games don't permeate into the next and
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: then they get walked off. Like Tom Glavin said it
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: on Thursday, when like this is the lowest point in
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: the season, don't ever say it can't get any lower
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: because you gotta play the next day again. And that
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: was not the lowest point going into San France and
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: having what happened happened, especially when you have Strider on
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: the last day, who just the hitters will let you know.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: The hitters will let you know, and right now the
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: hitters know what's coming from Strider.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: This is random. But what's the Rockies mascot's name? Dinger?
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Dinger bro.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I think Dinger needed to call what's the Braves one? Blooper?
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Dinger needed to call Blooper and be like, it can
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: get worse it right now?
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: So much about and Sacramento Sper.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: We're going to talk about Stomper coming up soon.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: But even Stomper can't get on the mountain.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: There true a couple of things on the mound for
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: the Braves. Number One, Craig Kimberl had been pitching well
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: in the minor leagues. He had like a one something era.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Braves didn't want to call him up. They were hesitant
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: to call him up. And this is sometimes when you
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: look at an era and you look at a team
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: and you're like, what am I missing? Teams are pretty smart.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: He gets called up one scoreless appearance. Now what happened
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: in that appearance? There was like a pickoff right there
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: was I think it was, and he was he was
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: throwing pretty low nineties stuff didn't look good, and they
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: were just like, we're not going to go through with
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: this right now at all because we're a mess, and
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: you know, one game can blow our season at this
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: point if we do somehow make a miraculous comeback. So
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: they cut bait, dfade him right away. After that. It's
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: gotta be tough to do, just be based on the
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: history for him, and apparently he had been kind of
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: on their case like hey, it's time, look at me
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: right now, and they're like, I don't know. They did it.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: They defade him.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: So it happens on the road, it happens. I don't know.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I feel so I love Craig. We've hat Craig go
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: on here. Yeah, it's time. It just might be time.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: There's nothing else I can say except for this sucks.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, he got one day in the big leagues.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it counts as another year on
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: his checklist, but and it sucks. Dude, go through all
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: that and then get one day and they get DF eight.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know, you're pretty good in the first half
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: last year. Kratz two eight o E twenty three for
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: twenty eight saves isn't great. But he was racking up
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: saves for a good Orioles team last year and then
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: it fell off in the second half and it hasn't
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: come back in terms of a team saying this is
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: major league stuff. You know, ninety one ninety two breaker
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: wasn't graded well, So I don't know that's gonna be it.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: I've seen some teams put some junk out there. You
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: can't tell me Craig Kimberl's stuff right now. Based on
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: what I saw from his minor league video. I get
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: it as his v LOS down. But some teams are
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: throwing some junk up there, and he might not be
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: part of your future. But can Craig Kimball help with
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: your young guys in the pen, help him, like talk
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: them through it. I don't think teams see enough value
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: in something like that. And I you know, I don't
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: know Craig very well, but you can't tell me his
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: mentality whether he's successful or not. Couldn't permeate a bullpen
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: that has young guys that are growing and trying to
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: learn to do well in the big leagues.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but the problem is the Braves can't afford to
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: have that guy. They can't pitch for him. That's the problem.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Is a one innings he's a one inning guy, right,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: So he is one inning and that's it, and they
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: need somebody to give him some length because the rest
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: of their bullpen has been I mean, the Glaciers has
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: been not very good this year, and so they just
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: need but listen, I would be with you all Crafts
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: if it wasn't for the situation the Braves are in,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: being so far behind the eight ball already in the
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: division and in the wildcard. They got to try to
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: find ways to make it up. And if this was
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: a listen, if.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: Kimber was on the A's they would probably have them
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: there and be like, hey, help these guys, right, or
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: if he was even on the Rockies, hey we got
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: all these young guys. Help them, Craig, you're here to
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: help them, and you'll get your inning here and there, Right, Kenny.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Jansen, maybe on the Angels. Right, there is another example. Right,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: he's there, He's gonna get his saves. He gets a
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: chance to pitch and do his thing. But on a
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: team that's supposed to compete. As much as this sucks
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: to say, like they there wasn't a use for him.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: I get that one hundred percent agree. And the dropping
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: velocity like you need. I think the Braves are trying
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: to put a winning team out there. But if you
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: if Craig Kimberle doesn't have a spot in the big
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: leagues on the White Sox, Sacramento Pirates, Marlins, Rockies, even
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: to the point of the Nats, I don't think like
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: teams can use an arm like him, Yes, but they
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: can also use the experience like him, like even like
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: the middle tier teams that are like, hey, we have
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: some up and coming young that young pitchers, young bullpen guys.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: We need that guy in the pen. Teams don't value
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: that as much. Winning teams value it. But winning teams
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: like you said that are struggling, like the Braves need
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: guys who are gonna give you quality.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: One more note here because we teased it earlier. You know,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Sorrus put out an article it's been almost a week
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: about Spencer Streider or it might have just been a tweet,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: but info. And he said he's lost something since this
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: next surgery that he's coming back from right now, and
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: he's made a few starts since. He said the stuff
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: was sitting ninety seven plus before. Now he's sitting in
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: the ninety five rane you can still work with that.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: So the slider's down and slider relo is a huge
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: deal in terms of obviously measuring how effective that pitch
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: is going to be. Obviously it's effective for everything. But
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: there's kind of a line and he's below it is
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: according to this note, and he said maybe the velo
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: coming back from the IL is predictive of future velocity.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Said he's have found he's basically saying also like that,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: sometimes you already have enough body of work. I don't know.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's how many starts has he made since
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: he came back five it's pretty early.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: That's pumped the brakes like it doesn't look the same,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: but yeah, it.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Goes back to what I was talking about guys that
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: have this surgery. Some take longer than others just to
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: get the feel back in the velocity and everything back.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: I mean you can look at Sandy Algontra the same way.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is a tough thing to come Everyone
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: just assumes you're just automatically gonna come back the same
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: way you work out better, but takes different people different
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: lengths of time.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: If you watch the Triple, five starts, five losses. If
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: you watch the triple by Chapman, there is a concerted
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: effort to get on top of Strider's fastball. I mean
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: it was a it was a pitch up and away,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: and I mean Chapman couldn't have been more like top
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: hand get on top of that ball. But guys were
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: doing that before against Strider. The difference is that ball
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: just whoop stayed above their swing. Now guys are able
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: to stay on it and be able to square that
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: ball up instead of foul tip another pitch. Now you
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: got to speed it up. He gets you on the
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: breaking ball, or he goes a little bit higher than
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: high on fastball. The hitters will tell you if your
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: stuff is back. Matt Harvey, I brought it up earlier.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Matt Harvey was the same way when he came back.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I faced him pre Tommy John surgery, and then when
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: he got Tommy John surgery again, it took him a
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: little bit for him to get his stuff back up
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: and then it fell off again.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Right, lastly, what did you say earlier in the show,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: braves are.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Cook right now? I mean, unless something miraculously happens to them,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: it's it's a tough it's tough. I mean, I don't
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: know what happened. The problem is they can't hit. They
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: really they just haven't hit.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: And that's too good.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Also the n's too good. But they just can't hit.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: They chase. They're chasing like crazy right now. Like it's weird.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's just something that you don't normally see
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: from this team.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: One day left to enter our first Chap ECC weekly giveaway.
• 34:01
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• 34:05
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• 34:11
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• 34:15
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• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Tell us why you want to take them. We pick
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: a winner tomorrow. We're going to do a giveaway every
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: week based on something like that or trivia questions, all
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: kinds of different prompts each week. Pretty cool, right, that's great.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Right, let me pick any game you want to go to.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Up to four hundred you're getting.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: But up to four hundred pretty good Dodger game. You
• 34:42
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• 34:43
  Speaker 1: be sitting in crouches seats right behind home play, but
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: you get some pretty decent seats for that.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're excited about it. We're gonna be doing
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: it for the next couple months. You do have to
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: be hanging out with us in chat ECC. There's action
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: in there every day in the host chat and the
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: side chat fout Territory dot chat. So maybe how should
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: we do it tomorrow? Should we bring up like the
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: top three and then we vote? Sure?
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, no, no, no, no, not doing that because here's
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: the problem. If we do that, then everyone's gonna be
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: mad at us. So we gotta find out a random
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: way to do it, because okay, if we.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Know we're not doing it random. This is this is
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: a contest. For round one, we get to pick and
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: I know But what I'm.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Saying is maybe pick a top five and then throw
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: them in like a randomizer and have it spin out
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: the winner. Because if it gets to a top five
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: and Crats picks this person, I picked this person, you
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: pick that person.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: They're gonna get pissed.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Then someone's gonna be like, why you picked me? I
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: hate you guys. Yeah, and they're gonna tweet at us
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: and instagram at us and chat ecc at us and
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: all that. I'm gonna be like, dude, I'll take it.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I'm okay with picking somebody. Everybody has a favorite? True
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: which child is your favorite? Crads? Yeah, the one that listens.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: And that that child knows, Oh, they know, they know,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: trust they know. He says, you know who who I
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: like the best?
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: You know who you are because.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: The other two did to even hear you say it
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: because they weren't they.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Were listening exactly. That's a daughter.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: That's That's good. All right, Weeds coming up next? Uh
• 36:17
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• 36:20
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• 36:23
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• 36:32
  Speaker 2: We had a lot of people tagging us yesterday on
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: a variety of platforms like are you going to bring
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: up this Nico Horner versus Doug adding situation? And here
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: we are. He did say the magic word.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: You don't say you. That's it, Nico. You can you
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: can cuss them like a dog. He can cuss like
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: a sailor in an umpire. Just don't say you.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Here's the pitch. Okay, it's a miss from Jackflier. You
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: had the best start of That's.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Not Dug Gettings, by the way, behind the plane, not
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Doug Eddings.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Oh so why was everyone tweeting Doug Eddings at me?
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Doug Ennings had a rough go he was calling some
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: bad strikes game. Listen. Doug Eddings is the goat of umpires.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: So I will never say a bad word about Doug.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I love you, Doug. That guy's got great hair.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Who is this guy?
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: I just get good hair though he's got perfect I
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: don't know. He's a young he's a young guy. I'm
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: not one hundred percent sure, but I think what was
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Mark Burley's number?
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Fifty six?
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah? That was Eric Cooper, Eric wrist in Peace Coop. Yeah, umpired,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: umpired his perfect game and no hitter and behind the
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: no hitter, behind the play fifty six, same game time.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: The whole thing was crazy.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: That is crazy.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: But I'll say, and you know this, Kratz, don't say
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: you to an umpire. You can call him any name
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: you want to call him. You can say, that's bleep, bleep, beep, beep.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Is Derek Thomas behind a great sack. He's the great
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: of getting sacks, chiefs for the chiefs. God rest r
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: if Derek Thomas also. But uh, you can't say you
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: like you could say that's bleepity bleep or that call
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: was bleepity bleep, But as soon as you say you,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: their ears perk up and you go bye bye.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: So I was getting messages even this morning when Fair
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Territory was running live and I was talking to people
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: and they're like, going to bring it up. I was like,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: of course, I'm going to bring it up, but I said,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: I'm just warning you. I think our guys are going
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: to say the magic word was listed. And I think
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: the comeback from people right now is why let's get
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Nico horn or post game first?
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I mean I don't think it's really that
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: often you can verbade them say to the press afterwards,
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: like what got you thrown out? So I said, you're
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: having a really bad day?
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: That's good. First word was you you you are?
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: He just he just shortened it, so that also counts.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: You can't. And now that he was to me, that
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: was too much of an overreaction. You're having a really
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: bad day. Overreaction, Yes, just get thrown out. Come on,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: you just can't. But see what umpires umpires about this
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: for if you say you, that makes it personal. If
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: you say that, or it's or anything, you can say that,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: but as soon as you say you, it makes it personal,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: and they take that as a personal attack, and that's
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: why you get thrown up. And again, if he could
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: have said, man, it's been a really bad day, or
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: even if you're like umpires are having a bad day.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: But again he said you, what about you?
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Hauls are brutal today?
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Fine?
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Really fine, He would have given him a longer leash.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: You're having a bad day. That's a personal attack on them.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: I'm just telling you how it works.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not aware. I've been schooled.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: I call it umpires a lot of names in my
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: life and gotten away with it. But every time, as
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: soon as I've looked at him and said, you.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: That's the magic word. And the thing is crats. It's
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: a union, it's a returning. They all know, right, every
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: umpire knows. Before they probably I'm their first major league
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: game or maybe even their first minor league game, they've
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: already learned someone else that if someone says you, you
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: boot them. Even if the general public disagrees with this,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: with this ritual that they have in their frat, it
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: is what it is.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: But you can't can't question. You can't question balls and strikes.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: And when you're questioning directly what they said, just not
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: it's not gonna not going to stand. And they've they've
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: drawn their line in the sand there. It's not that
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: tough to not say you. What's tough is when they
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: what he did to council. He was like, I'm not
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: gonna listen to anything more. That's it. No more at me.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Come on, that's like you're you're telling a grown man
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: he can't say anything else. As as soon as an
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: umpire says that you're I don't know my level, My
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: level goes from like fifty to one hundred real quick
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: when they tell me no nothing else from you. Because
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: your first reaction is nothing, I can't with that. Something
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: did I? And then you're like, you're illegitimately think talking.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: You're not, you're not you're saying things that don't mean anything.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: And then you're just angry. Yeah, yeah he was, so
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: he ran out there, he was going so yeah, but again,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: listen doesn't make any less ridiculous.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: The fact that it is. That's the way it is.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: But that's what the umpires are told. That's what they're taught,
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: and that's.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: What you're as soon.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: As you say you just know you're probably gonna get run,
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: whether that's a smart thing or a bad thing.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Also, he go harder with the little smirk, like he
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: knew what he was doing. He knew exactly when he
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: said what he said, because he was like, you're having
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: a bad day, and he gave like that little like
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: and then just waited for a response. You know, yes, okay,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: So he knew what he was doing by saying he
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: knew he knew when he said that, he knew he
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: was probably gonna get run.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Let's slap first off, and we're staying on for the
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: YouTube crack, so we've got a few things to hit.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: May Day is on later on the FT YouTube channel
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: as well, So it'll go from FT to Dodger's Territory
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: to Baseball America hot sheet to may Day Mondays are
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: lit on the FT network. Traver's crushing it. Oh, we
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: have a split screen. That's a good way to go
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: out for the TV crowd. We have a split screen
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: of Trevor and his doppel ganger. I think it's pretty good.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Have you heard of this one, Marcela Meyer? No looking, No,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: you don't see it.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: No different hair, different channel.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Well, different hairhile.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Maybe similarities in the nose area. I'm very picky about this.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Thick eyebrows, similar eye color, noses pretty close.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Nose is the one thing, but it's also could be
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: the angle.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Could we do the Ryan Weathers tweet first from the weekend?
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: We saw that one, you know, because I would do
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: a little weekend work with the FT social team, and
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I was like, anyone see this Ryan Weathers first inning
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: warm ups hit heads up by the throwdown to second
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: pretty pretty square on the top of the head too,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Like geez, guys, like he's got a two and a
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: half vur protect the merchandise. Have you ever seen that?
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I've done it?
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: You've done it.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: I did it. I did it. I did it in
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: high school. Knocked the guy out at go to the hospital.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Down the way.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Danny Garrito, I love you, Danny. I think you're
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: in Barcelona right now. But I put it in my story.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: We were playing a game. It was a pickoff at
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: second and he didn't know the pickoff backpick was on.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I threw it, he stood during it, hit it right here. Oh,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: he went down on the mound out it'd bring like
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: the cart and the ambulance, any of the hospital. And
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: then I ended up I got ejected out of game
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: later as against Winter Park. Damn, my senior year of
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: high school. End up getting ejected out of that game later. Wow,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: but yeah, poop ray here out cold on the mount out.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Whoo's fault is that one? The weather's one.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: That's just a bad Well, first of all, you're supposed
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: to duck, but second well, that's a bad throw. The
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: catch that's yankee yanked.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you don't ever throw it. You don't throw
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: it as hard as you can in between innings. You're
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: just kind of just throwing it down there. But I
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: mean that was that was a very good I'm surprised.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: I'm surprised.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: I never hit anybody on a backpick because I liked
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: backpicking and I would do more of like a delay
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: backpick from my knees. And I also chucked it back
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: to the mount decently hard, and some pitchers would get
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: because you want to throw it right through their head
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: when you're throwing down the second on that backpick, because
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: that ball carried through in between innings. That should never happen.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: That should never happen. I saw Paul Hoover hit Nate
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Bump to two old school names, Nate Bump I mean
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: lower back rate in a tramp stamp and just drops him.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Just he made this like noise as he was going
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: as he was going down.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe the Marlins will not let their catchers throw
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: down anymore between okay, the screen album the screen. They're
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: very innovative, and then.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: They'll fake the tag. They'll fake the tag like it
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: was gonna be there. It'll be neat. It'll be so neat.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Speaking of neat, this is my favorite part of the weekend.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Pepe strolling out for his first pitch.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: This is pretty awesome.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: That penguin is so freaking cute, even if you don't
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: like I don't know little animals. That's a cute little penguin.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: That was super cool. If you're listening to the pod,
• 45:51
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