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Not So Fast Episode 4 · Not So Fast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Patz, where.
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Speaker 2: Two longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest sports
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Speaker 2: stories of the day.
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Speaker 3: Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Patz.
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Speaker 1: Not so fast, my friends.
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Speaker 3: I'm Andrew Perloff. He's Paul Pax. Day four. We had
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Speaker 3: a huge college football show planned today. You have the
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Speaker 3: Arkansas Pine Bluff depth chart ready to go?
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Speaker 4: Oh, ready to chop it up. At directional schools, hyphenated schools,
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Speaker 4: I was all in.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and then the NBA said, not so fast. We
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Speaker 5: got a bomb to drop. Of course, if you watch
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Speaker 5: the Dan Patrick Show, you know what happened. The NBA
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Speaker 5: took five first-round picks away from the Clippers for salary
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Speaker 5: caps for a convention. Kawhi Leonard, I thought the Dan
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Speaker 5: Patrick Show broke it down in a really interesting way.
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Speaker 5: They had Pablo Torreon, of course, Brian Windhorst. But what
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Speaker 5: was your reaction, Paul, when you saw the news last night?
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Speaker 4: Well, this has been a year in the making, and
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Speaker 4: it felt last year like it was a big story,
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Speaker 4: and then it just kind of went away for a while,
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Speaker 4: or it was simmering for a while. Then in August,
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Speaker 4: there was a story that made it sound like this
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Speaker 4: has much to do about nothing, and nothing's going to happen.
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Speaker 4: Pablo Torreon has been chopping this up for a while.
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Speaker 4: But the NBA punishment, when I saw it yesterday, five
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Speaker 4: first-round picks, that's not little. $ 30 million, Steve Ballmer is
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Speaker 4: not allowed to be in the facility, participate, go to games,
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Speaker 4: which He's always on the sidelines, like Mark Cuban a
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Speaker 4: generation ago. But this is the hammer. This isn't a
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Speaker 4: mild hammer. This is the hammer.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, and not so fast, one of the
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Speaker 5: things we want to do is try and speak as fans.
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Speaker 5: I thought if you're a Clippers fan, this is a
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Speaker 5: raw deal. You're losing five first-round picks. How can you
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Speaker 5: get excited about the future of this team? And they're
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Speaker 5: expensive tickets. I understand hitting Bomber. He deserves it. But
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Speaker 5: the fans didn't do anything, and now what do you
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Speaker 5: do as a Clippers fan?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, anyone who's a season ticket holder of the Clippers
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Speaker 4: gets punished. You lose five. Draft picks 29, 30, 31, 32, 33.
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Speaker 4: You're getting into another generation of Clippers fans. You're punishing
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Speaker 4: people who weren't born yet. You know, Bomber will get
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Speaker 4: away over this. Kawhi, he does a quick my bad
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Speaker 4: and then rolls out of town like he's a bad
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Speaker 4: pass in a pickup game. But the Clippers, imagine you're
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Speaker 4: Keaton Wagler, the new Clipper guard. You now have nothing
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Speaker 4: to help you for the next few years. So they're
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Speaker 4: the real people getting punished here.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm very curious.
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Speaker 5: Will Ballmer fight back, and can he reduce the penalties over?
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Speaker 5: You know, if the Clippers play ball and say, okay,
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Speaker 5: we'll take the penalty, I wonder if the NBA would
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Speaker 5: go from five first-round picks to three like they've done
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Speaker 5: in past situations.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so if you go back to last September, the
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Speaker 4: Clippers issued a statement that said, yeah, we didn't do
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Speaker 4: any of this. This is completely false. Yesterday, they didn't
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Speaker 4: wiggle at all. They said, We still didn't do this.
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Speaker 4: Commissioner Silver told us we were going to negotiate, and
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Speaker 4: we didn't expect this. And they're complete deny mode still.
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Speaker 4: Here's the one caveat, and we're going to have Chris
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Speaker 4: Mannix from Sports Illustrated in a second here. But is
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Speaker 4: there any chance, just to play devil's advocate, is that
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Speaker 4: this was all done behind Steve Ballmer's back? Like his henchman,
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Speaker 4: his business guy, his assistant GM said, We're going to
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Speaker 4: find a way to get Kawhi and shovel this money
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Speaker 4: to him, and he never knew.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 5: I see the guy in the front row. It looks
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Speaker 5: like he wants to jump into the game. He doesn't
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Speaker 5: seem like the kind of owner who just sits back
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Speaker 5: and lets other people do his dirty work. I have
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Speaker 5: a sense, and based on Lawrence Frank, I had notes
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Speaker 5: that Bomber was involved. It doesn't seem like they're going
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Speaker 5: to be able to fight back in that way. But
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Speaker 5: then again, if they just say, all right, we did it,
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Speaker 5: I think the penalty.
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Speaker 3: Would be worse. They want to keep fighting back. Who knows?
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Speaker 3: Maybe the NBA will come after them some more.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they have a couple months. It's like the SEC.
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Speaker 4: They're going to go to the courtrooms. But let's bring
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Speaker 4: in our good buddy, Chris Mannix of Sports Illustrated, senior
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Speaker 4: NBA writer. Mannix, all right, let's get into this. When
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Speaker 4: you saw this punishment yesterday, what level of surprise or
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Speaker 4: lack of surprise was there for you?
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Speaker 6: The severity of it was certainly eye opening.
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Speaker 7: This is a comparable penalty to what the Minnesota Timberwolves
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Speaker 7: received back in 2000. And that was a clear case
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Speaker 7: of cap circumvention. There was an email paper trail. that
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Speaker 7: had the Timberwolves dead to rights. This penalty tells me
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Speaker 7: that the NBA believes that they've got the Clippers dead
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Speaker 7: to rights. But more significantly, I think the fact that
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Speaker 7: they went after Steve Ballmer spoke volumes here. Nobody I
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Speaker 7: talked to was really surprised that the NBA came down
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Speaker 7: hard on the Clippers because they had a lot of evidence.
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Speaker 6: You saw that 35-page report.
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Speaker 7: There is a lot of, let's say, smoldering guns out
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Speaker 7: there That suggests the Clippers did a lot of impropriety
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Speaker 7: when it came to the salary cap. But Steve Ballmer,
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Speaker 7: there was a belief in NBA circles that the league
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Speaker 7: might find a way to go a little bit easy
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Speaker 7: on him. Maybe give him a fine, a slap on
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Speaker 7: the wrist. But this is really the ultimate penalty that
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Speaker 7: you can give a billionaire owner, telling him, that he
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Speaker 7: can't be around the team telling him he can't watch
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Speaker 7: games in the arena that he built that he can't
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Speaker 7: be part of the board of governors means they can't
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Speaker 7: be part of the nba uh this is something i
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Speaker 7: think steve ballmer is going to fight the hardest and
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Speaker 7: it surprised me a little that the nba was willing
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Speaker 7: to go there.
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Speaker 5: Chris how powerful is ballmer in the nba amongst all
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Speaker 5: the owners is he near the top kind of like
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Speaker 5: jerry jones is in the nfl I wouldn't.
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Speaker 6: He's the most influential owner, I would say, in the NBA.
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Speaker 7: You know, Jerry Jones is like the de facto co-commissioner,
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Speaker 7: it feels like, in the NFL.
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Speaker 6: I wouldn't go that far with Steve Ballmer.
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Speaker 7: But Steve Ballmer's ability through his net worth to make
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Speaker 7: connections for the NBA globally, to be part of their
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Speaker 7: development in technology. He sits on a lot of committees
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Speaker 7: within the NBA. He's a loud voice at the Board
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Speaker 7: of Governors meetings or an influential voice at the Board
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Speaker 7: of Governors meetings, he is as powerful a figure as
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Speaker 7: they get in the NBA. And this is Adam Silver saying,
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Speaker 7: we believe you did enough wrong to boot you out
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Speaker 7: for a year.
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Speaker 4: Chris, you chopped up the Clippers' response yesterday, and they're
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Speaker 4: not backing down at all. Do you believe that the Clippers, Ballmer,
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Speaker 4: and Commissioner Silver were negotiating in any way some type
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Speaker 4: of middle ground the past month, and then the NBA said, nope,
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Speaker 4: we're going to hammer you?
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Speaker 7: I mean, maybe, but not to the extent that ESPN
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Speaker 7: acted like it was. I certainly think there have been
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Speaker 7: conversations where the NBA has shown some of their hand
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Speaker 7: when it came to what this report revealed. Now, obviously,
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Speaker 7: they didn't show their entire hand because the Clippers were
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Speaker 7: as taken off guard as anybody by the results of
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Speaker 7: this investigation. But I certainly believe that there were some
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Speaker 7: conversations that went on behind the scenes. But clearly, the
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Speaker 7: NBA was not willing to let the Clippers skate with
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Speaker 7: just a slap on the wrist. I mean, one of
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Speaker 7: the most revealing things in this report, the summary of
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Speaker 7: the report... is that we're not done. There's still a
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Speaker 7: lot more. This is Wachtell Lipton saying, hey, we had
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Speaker 7: to get this out. Adam Silver, the NBA, they were
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Speaker 7: telling us to wrap this thing up. So here is
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Speaker 7: what we got so far. But we want to be clear.
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Speaker 7: We want to put this in writing that there is
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Speaker 7: more out there. They said we had a witness that
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Speaker 7: came forward this week, this week, to give us information.
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Speaker 7: So I just think the NBA was never going to
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Speaker 7: allow the Clippers to skate with any kind of small,
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Speaker 7: insignificant penalty.
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Speaker 6: That's why any talks, Probably didn't go anywhere.
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Speaker 5: You know, today on SI.com, you wrote, the Clippers are cooked.
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Speaker 5: If you're a Clippers fan and you're worried about the
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Speaker 5: future of your team, can they recover from this and
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Speaker 5: be competitive and stay over the next 10 years?
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Speaker 7: I like it, Perloff. You're a man of the Clipper
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Speaker 7: faithful there. You're one of the supporters of.
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Speaker 3: Big, big Clippers. Look, it is.
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Speaker 6: It is the basketball equivalent of a death sentence.
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Speaker 3: It just is.
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Speaker 7: You know, there's some questions about whether or not, and
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Speaker 7: I heard you bring this up at the top of
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Speaker 7: the show, would the NBA restore some of these Clippers
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Speaker 7: draft picks?
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Speaker 6: They did it in Minnesota.
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Speaker 7: But the difference is that the Timberwolves were on their
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Speaker 7: best behavior throughout that entire process. The Timberwolves didn't really fight. Like,
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Speaker 7: they were dead to rights. They didn't fight it. They
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Speaker 7: kind of took their punishment like men. And the NBA
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Speaker 7: turned around in, what's it, 2003 and said, you got
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Speaker 7: a couple of these picks today.
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Speaker 3: Back.
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Speaker 7: The Clippers are not going quietly into that night. Like
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Speaker 7: they are determined to fight. It sure sounds like they're
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Speaker 7: considering legal options. That's not the behavior of an organization
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Speaker 7: that's likely to get their picks back. So they're not
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Speaker 7: going to have a first round pick till I believe 2035.
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Speaker 7: And if you think about it contextually, guys, like the
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Speaker 7: player they're going to draft in the first round in
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Speaker 7: 2035 is like 10 years old now.
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Speaker 4: You think.
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Speaker 6: Young kid right now.
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Speaker 7: So it's, look, I think you're talking about late 2030s
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Speaker 7: before the Clippers have a chance to be really relevant again.
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Speaker 4: You know, I can tell you that 10-year-old does not
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Speaker 4: want to go to the Clippers already. Believe me, I
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Speaker 4: don't know what his name is, but he doesn't want
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Speaker 4: to be a Clipper. Let me ask you this, Chris.
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Speaker 4: You did a feature piece on Kawhi Leonard a couple
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Speaker 4: years ago, cover of SI. You got to know him,
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Speaker 4: and we don't know him at all. I mean, the
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Speaker 4: casual fan, even people who work in the sports media
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Speaker 4: barely know this guy. Were you surprised by... Let me
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Speaker 4: ask you about his statement on the way out, his
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Speaker 4: half apology, blaming his underlings. Do you know about his
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Speaker 4: backstory and the people who work around him?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, he's had a pretty close inner circle for...
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Speaker 7: his entire life. It's been his uncle, Dennis Robertson, who's
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Speaker 7: acted as his de facto agent for most of his
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Speaker 7: pro career. He's got a good friend, Jeremy Castleberry, who's
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Speaker 7: been an assistant coach in Toronto and with the LA Clippers.
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Speaker 7: He's been his kind of right-hand man for a long time,
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Speaker 7: but it's a very tight inner circle. That statement... All right, Chris.
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Speaker 7: That statement was awesome. I'm sorry. That statement was awesome.
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Speaker 7: It was absolutely awesome. Because this was like the Clippers
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Speaker 7: are out there saying like, we didn't do anything and
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Speaker 7: we're going to fight this till the end. Kawhi, if
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Speaker 7: I can paraphrase this statement, is like, guess we did something.
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Speaker 6: My bad. What up, Toronto?
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Speaker 4: How you guys doing?
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Speaker 6: I'm here to party. I'm lucky to get back with you.
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Speaker 6: Everything else, that doesn't really matter.
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Speaker 4: They needed Kawhi to load manage that statement and just
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Speaker 4: hold it off for a few days and take a break.
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Speaker 3: How did they.
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Speaker 7: I mean, look, Kawhi owes the Clippers nothing right now.
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Speaker 7: The Clippers clearly have nothing to do with Kawhi. But
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Speaker 7: the fact those statements were not more closely coordinated is
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Speaker 7: a killer for the Clippers. And I'll tell you guys,
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Speaker 7: this was the NBA being savvy here. Now, I'm sure
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Speaker 7: the NBA wanted to come down harder on the Clipper
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Speaker 7: or on Kawhi Leonard. But by giving him this little
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Speaker 7: slap on the wrist, they take Kawhi out of play.
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Speaker 6: They take, more importantly, the union and its lawyers.
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Speaker 3: Out of play. So now.
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Speaker 7: They have isolated the Clippers here. They have removed arbitration
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Speaker 7: from the table. They have removed the union from being
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Speaker 7: a thorn in their side. This was the NBA saying,
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Speaker 7: you know what? We don't like it, but it's more
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Speaker 7: important to us to police the team and not the players.
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Speaker 7: And by giving Kawhi the slap on the wrist, they
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Speaker 7: strengthened their position when it comes to the Clippers.
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Speaker 5: All right, Chris, we have some unfinished business on the
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Speaker 5: basketball court, by the way. I've been coming up to
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Speaker 5: the man cave every day. And many years ago, you
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Speaker 5: and I famously lost to Paul and Seton. It was
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Speaker 5: a Villanova Georgetown level upset. You want to come back down?
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Speaker 5: I don't know how your game is these days. Mine's
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Speaker 5: not great, but can we get a rematch? Are you
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Speaker 5: down for that?
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Speaker 6: I'm down for that.
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Speaker 7: I've started to, now that I'm primarily out in California,
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Speaker 7: I have started to play more outdoors games.
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Speaker 3: Which is nice.
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Speaker 6: Start to get some reps.
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Speaker 7: I've got a kid now, so I like to bring
11:18
Speaker 7: him to the park, get some shots up myself while
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Speaker 7: he plays in the grass.
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Speaker 6: So I'm starting to shake some of the rust off.
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Speaker 7: But I mean, like, Paulie and like, isn't Fritzy like
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Speaker 7: 60 with like multiple surgeries?
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Speaker 6: What's going on with him?
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Speaker 7: I don't know if I want to beat up on
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Speaker 7: a senior citizen right now.
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Speaker 5: But he's got a great hook shot. He's got this
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Speaker 5: lefty hook shot that you can't lock.
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Speaker 4: If you're balling in SoCal, the Clippers may sign you, Chris.
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Speaker 6: I mean, I'd be one of the guys available to
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Speaker 6: come off the street.
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Speaker 7: They might have to have open tryouts, like invincible style
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Speaker 7: tryouts to get guys on that roster. It's not going
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Speaker 7: to be pretty. And just last thing on them is
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Speaker 7: one of the big questions I have. is will Steve
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Speaker 7: Ballmer sell this team? Like he's gone for a year.
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Speaker 7: He paid $ 2 billion for the team back in what, 2013?
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Speaker 7: Even as a distressed asset, the Clippers can probably get
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Speaker 7: 3X on that investment.
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Speaker 6: He probably gets 6 billion. He owns the building.
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Speaker 7: He sells that 8 billion. Like there's a lot of
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Speaker 7: money to be made just by selling the Clippers. Steve
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Speaker 7: Ballmer is 70 years old. Does he want to stick
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Speaker 7: around and oversee a floundering franchise with a fan base
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Speaker 7: that is going to blame him for the predicament that
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Speaker 7: they're in?
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Speaker 5: All right, Chris, thank you so much for the time.
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Speaker 5: I'll see you on the court. We'll set it up.
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Speaker 5: Come on down, buddy.
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Speaker 6: I'll be there.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 5: Of course, that's a great Chris Mannix. Oh, man, poor bomber.
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Speaker 5: I don't know what he's going to do with all
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Speaker 5: his money if he doesn't own the Clippers.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that yacht is going to be lonely.
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Speaker 5: All right, coming up next, we're going to turn to
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Speaker 5: the NFL. Is it now or never for Lamar Jackson
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Speaker 5: in Baltimore? We'll explain next on Not So Fast.
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Speaker 2: Leave like January it's now like that was our last
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Speaker 2: pad of practice before we play a game where'd it
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Speaker 2: go like if yesterday felt like years or last year
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Speaker 2: felt like centuries ago like it's it's it's on it's
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Speaker 2: football season how do you not get excited like how
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Speaker 2: do you not have a little bit how do you
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Speaker 2: how do you sleep all the way into your alarm
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Speaker 2: this time you can't right you're waking up like if
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Speaker 2: you don't like you got to you're waking up because
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Speaker 2: you're dreaming about it like that's football season so absolutely
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Speaker 2: not it's there's no monotony in the football season or
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Speaker 2: getting ready to play.
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Speaker 4: A football game Back on Not So Fast, Paxton Perloff
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Speaker 4: here on NBC Sports Now. That's Kenny Dillingham. He's our guy,
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Speaker 4: not my guy.
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Speaker 5: By the way, you want a college football czar maybe,
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Speaker 5: a scheduling czar at least, Kenny Dillingham would be the guy.
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Speaker 5: Nobody talks about the sport more eloquently than Kenny Dillingham.
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Speaker 3: I love it.
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Speaker 4: Culture czar. He's like, I want to hit somebody.
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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 4: He's got the sweatshirt on. It's 98 degrees out there
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Speaker 4: in the morning.
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Speaker 5: I can't believe he's still at Arizona State because I
13:52
Speaker 5: think he could get it.
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Speaker 3: After this year, watch. He'll get any job he wants.
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Speaker 4: You know, it was close last year.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: There were some people calling. That's Kenny Dillingham getting us
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Speaker 4: fired up for the college football season. Back on Not
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Speaker 4: So Fast. What we like to do here is warm takes.
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Speaker 4: You don't want to burn anybody. Now, I went first
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Speaker 4: the first couple days. I'm going to yield the floor
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Speaker 4: to you and your lovely blue shirt.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this was actually your outfit on day one.
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Speaker 4: I called it.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, but now you kind of look like Jeff Probst,
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Speaker 5: but we'll get to that later.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 5: My first warm take today is about Kirk Cousins. Now,
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Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins named the starter in Las Vegas. I think
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Speaker 5: everyone's waiting for him to lose a few games and
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Speaker 5: yield the floor to Fernando Mendoza. I got to tell
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Speaker 5: you right now, Kirk Cousins is going to be better
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Speaker 5: than you think. I'm going to call it commitment to
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Speaker 5: competence in Vegas with the Raiders.
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Speaker 3: No commitment to excellence, but competence.
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Speaker 5: Because he's very, very good in Clint Kubiak's offense. They
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Speaker 5: were together in Minnesota. Every year they were together, Cousins
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Speaker 5: had a passer rating over 100.
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Speaker 3: They run this wide zone run game and play action, Paul.
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Speaker 5: And all quarterbacks are better under play action, especially if
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Speaker 5: you can sell the run. Cousins knows what he's doing. Listen,
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Speaker 5: he's like me. He had no athleticism when he was young.
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Speaker 5: He has none now. It does not matter. He knows
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Speaker 5: where to go with the ball. He's going to throw
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Speaker 5: the ball to Brock.
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Speaker 3: Bowers over the middle.
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Speaker 5: And Kubiak makes receivers good. It's not the other way around.
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Speaker 5: The offense will create a good receiver, even though there's
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Speaker 5: none on the depth chart right now.
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Speaker 3: Just wait. This passing offense is going to look way
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Speaker 3: better than we think it is. Will they win a
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Speaker 3: lot of games? Maybe not.
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Speaker 5: But I think they are going to have a higher
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Speaker 5: level than we thought with Kirk Cousins because they've been
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Speaker 5: bad the last few years. They're going to be very
15:26
Speaker 5: pleased with just sort of competent quarterback play.
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Speaker 4: A couple things. You crushed that warm take. That may
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Speaker 4: go in the warm take Hall of Fame. It had comedy.
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Speaker 4: It had a little against the grain in it. I
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Speaker 4: think this is a very interesting take by you because
15:38
Speaker 4: if Cousins plays well and they win a couple of
15:40
Speaker 4: those games they're not expected to win and somehow they're
15:43
Speaker 4: 4-3 at the halfway point, you can't bench them. And
15:46
Speaker 4: now Mendoza is No fault of his own. It's just
15:49
Speaker 4: sitting and sitting and sitting. But, you know, there'd be
15:50
Speaker 4: pressure to not play a guy. You know, I always
15:53
Speaker 4: said that week eight game against the Jets, that's the
15:55
Speaker 4: target game. But if somehow you beat the Rams or
15:57
Speaker 4: beat the Bills or beat them both, you're not sitting anybody.
16:01
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think the high end would be
16:03
Speaker 5: Alex Smith in Kansas City right before Patrick Mahomes got there.
16:06
Speaker 3: That's possible. If they got 10 wins, that'd be like
16:09
Speaker 3: winning the Super Bowl.
16:09
Speaker 4: It's possible from the standpoint of Alex Smith is similar
16:12
Speaker 4: to Kirk Cousins in good, not great. but I don't
16:15
Speaker 4: know if the supporting cast with the Raiders will support
16:17
Speaker 4: Cousins to that level.
16:18
Speaker 3: Oh, just because they've been terrible for 20 years?
16:21
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they've been terrible for 20 years. Got me
16:23
Speaker 4: on that one. All right, let's get to my warm take.
16:25
Speaker 4: Here we go. I've always thought there should be a
16:27
Speaker 4: rule in sports, and I'm being a little facetious here,
16:29
Speaker 4: but that owners should be accountable, not just for infractions,
16:32
Speaker 4: but for your team losing. You're the steward of this franchise, right?
16:35
Speaker 4: If you buy a team and they don't win, you
16:37
Speaker 4: should take the blame for it. We talked about Artie Moreno,
16:40
Speaker 4: the former owner of the Angels yesterday. And they went
16:43
Speaker 4: one for 17 in making the playoffs. How about a
16:45
Speaker 4: hard rule? You buy a team, you're on the clock.
16:48
Speaker 4: Artie Moreno, you should have been on the clock. If
16:50
Speaker 4: your team doesn't make the playoffs the postseason for 10
16:53
Speaker 4: straight seasons, you must sell. And I know they can
16:56
Speaker 4: enforce this and commissioners won't enforce this, but I would
16:58
Speaker 4: love to see it in this pie in the sky
17:00
Speaker 4: thought I have. Because if you don't make the postseason
17:02
Speaker 4: for 10 years and you spend or you don't spend,
17:05
Speaker 4: you're gone, man. You didn't do it. If you look
17:08
Speaker 4: at what's going on with the Clippers, they're not that bad,
17:10
Speaker 4: but they're in the middle of the road. Their owners
17:12
Speaker 4: should have been gone years ago for malpractice. This one
17:14
Speaker 4: is a different case. But if you're an owner of
17:15
Speaker 4: a team, if you're an owner of the Mets or
17:17
Speaker 4: whatever team, and you don't spend or you spend, 10 years,
17:20
Speaker 4: you're on the clock, you're out of there, you must sell.
17:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, every 10 years, every owner goes in front of
17:25
Speaker 3: the league, and they have to get re-approved.
17:27
Speaker 4: Yes, like a review.
17:28
Speaker 3: But even better, what if fans got to do it?
17:30
Speaker 5: Like, you could sit on the board with 12 Chicago
17:33
Speaker 5: fans and.
17:33
Speaker 3: Decide if you're going to keep the guys.
17:35
Speaker 4: Right, if you're the new owner of the Denver Broncos,
17:37
Speaker 4: and you're in year 10, and it's the final week
17:39
Speaker 4: of the season, and You have to walk out of
17:42
Speaker 4: the building, and you're just a civilian. You're walking to
17:44
Speaker 4: your car.
17:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that Broncos owner has a lot of money.
17:47
Speaker 4: Shame, shame, Game of Thrones.
17:50
Speaker 3: I love it.
17:51
Speaker 5: Okay, let's stick in the NFL. Lamar Jackson's been in
17:55
Speaker 5: the news because of his contract. I feel like this
17:56
Speaker 5: happens every year, Paul, where we're talking about Lamar Jackson's contract.
18:00
Speaker 3: But it is up pretty soon.
18:01
Speaker 5: At the end of 2027, he could be gone in Baltimore, theoretically.
18:05
Speaker 3: Now, you look at the Super Bowl odds. They are 10-1.
18:07
Speaker 5: They're tied for second with Buffalo as the most likely
18:10
Speaker 5: team to win it all.
18:12
Speaker 3: I've got to be honest.
18:13
Speaker 5: It's now or never for Lamar Jackson because he still
18:15
Speaker 5: has Derrick Henry, a running back.
18:17
Speaker 3: He still has Mark Andrews, a tight end.
18:18
Speaker 5: He's got a new offensive coordinator, Declan Doyle, who everyone's
18:21
Speaker 5: excited about.
18:22
Speaker 3: Lamar said we're going to unveil things the league has
18:24
Speaker 3: never seen. But, you know what? He's got to win
18:27
Speaker 3: in the postseason.
18:28
Speaker 5: I think that an MVP-type season could be coming from
18:31
Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson. But if he doesn't win the playoffs, it's
18:33
Speaker 5: going to look even worse after that.
18:35
Speaker 4: So I'm going to bonus warm take you here and
18:37
Speaker 4: say that the Ravens should not spend any more money
18:40
Speaker 4: on Lamar Jackson now. They should wait until January, February. Look,
18:44
Speaker 4: they don't have to spend on him right now, and
18:45
Speaker 4: they shouldn't. See what happens. You want to give him
18:48
Speaker 4: some monstrous contract extension and he doesn't do anything this year?
18:50
Speaker 4: He has a mild year like last year. I know
18:53
Speaker 4: he's banged up. But assuming health, if he underachieves... Why
18:56
Speaker 4: would you give him the money now? You don't have
18:58
Speaker 4: to give him the money now. It's okay if he's disgruntled. What,
19:00
Speaker 4: is he going to be gruntled if you give him
19:02
Speaker 4: the money, which is not even a word? But I
19:04
Speaker 4: don't need to pay him now. I need him to
19:06
Speaker 4: earn one more big paycheck.
19:08
Speaker 3: I don't know. The guy's got two MVPs. He's going
19:10
Speaker 3: to be awesome.
19:11
Speaker 4: How many playoff wins to MVPs? What's his playoff win
19:13
Speaker 4: to MVP ratio?
19:15
Speaker 3: About one to one.
19:16
Speaker 4: One-to-one. That's not what I want. I want more playoff
19:18
Speaker 4: wins than MVPs.
19:19
Speaker 5: You're telling me you're going to give Brock Purdy and
19:21
Speaker 5: probably eventually CJ Stroud $ 55 million, and you're not going
19:24
Speaker 5: to give that to Lamar Jackson?
19:26
Speaker 4: I'm going to make him wait until February for $ 55 million.
19:30
Speaker 5: I like that you sort of warm-take me back on
19:32
Speaker 5: my warm-take, but I'm third warm-taking you.
19:35
Speaker 3: You've got to pay him. Pay him now. Save some money.
19:37
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson is not going anywhere, Paul.
19:39
Speaker 4: Three warm-takes make a right, right?
19:42
Speaker 3: I hope so.
19:42
Speaker 4: All right, let's get to the NFC North. Every day
19:44
Speaker 4: we're going to do a division preview, my NFC North.
19:47
Speaker 4: You know I love it, but I'm going to you, Pearl.
19:49
Speaker 4: NFC North prediction.
19:50
Speaker 1: Here.
19:50
Speaker 4: I'm going to start with the Bears. The Bears have
19:52
Speaker 4: a ton of hype, a lot of national TV games.
19:55
Speaker 4: They kind of got by in a couple wins last year,
19:58
Speaker 4: more than seven wins in the final quarter. Do you
20:00
Speaker 4: think that they're going to drop off or are you
20:02
Speaker 4: going to go warm take and say they'll get better?
20:04
Speaker 5: I'm going to do a little bit of a drop off. A,
20:07
Speaker 5: their schedule's hard. B, regression. As Coach Ben Johnson said,
20:10
Speaker 5: they are the prime target for regression because of all
20:13
Speaker 5: those close wins and their turnover luck. And turnovers are
20:16
Speaker 5: a bit luck. Now, I like Caleb Williams. I love
20:19
Speaker 5: Ben Johnson. Defense, that's my concern, Paul, partly because I
20:23
Speaker 5: sit next to you and you talk.
20:24
Speaker 3: About it all day long.
20:24
Speaker 4: They're not threatening.
20:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if that's the kind of unit
20:27
Speaker 3: that's going to win 13 games.
20:28
Speaker 4: Okay, let's get to the Packers. Let's get to Jordan Love.
20:30
Speaker 4: We talked about this the other day. Jordan Love, when
20:33
Speaker 4: optimal conditions, he's throwing dimes. He's got Tucker Kraft back,
20:38
Speaker 4: Josh Jacobs, we don't know. But best-case scenario for the
20:41
Speaker 4: Packers is?
20:42
Speaker 5: Well, I think there's actually pressure. I mentioned Lamar Jackson.
20:45
Speaker 5: I think Jordan Love's got to win on a high
20:46
Speaker 5: level maybe.
20:47
Speaker 4: He already has his contract.
20:48
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, they were so close. Remember they blew
20:51
Speaker 5: that playoff game to San Francisco and started to rain?
20:53
Speaker 3: Yep.
20:54
Speaker 5: You know, Green Bay has made the playoffs. We know
20:56
Speaker 5: they can do that. Can Jordan Love take them to
20:57
Speaker 5: the next level? Can he really be the successor to
20:59
Speaker 5: Favre and Rodgers? I think he's a good enough quarterback
21:02
Speaker 5: to take a team deep into the playoffs.
21:04
Speaker 3: I just worry that everybody gets hurt.
21:06
Speaker 5: Parsons, I don't know if he's going to be full
21:07
Speaker 5: Micah Parsons when he comes back. If they're healthy, though, Paul,
21:11
Speaker 5: they have the talent to win it all. I'm not
21:14
Speaker 5: going to predict them to win it all because they
21:15
Speaker 5: have no depth, but they have more talent than anyone.
21:18
Speaker 4: I'm going to skip the Lions because we've done a
21:19
Speaker 4: lot about the Lions. I'm going to go right to
21:20
Speaker 4: the Vikings. Are the Vikings an interesting good team or
21:23
Speaker 4: an interesting Bad team.
21:25
Speaker 5: To me, they are a very interesting, probably bad team.
21:31
Speaker 5: They got two good coaches, Kevin O'Connell and Brian Flores.
21:35
Speaker 5: They don't have the quarterback. Now, I know DP is
21:37
Speaker 5: kind of optimistic on Kyler Murray.
21:40
Speaker 3: I'm nervous. Yeah, I'm nervous.
21:41
Speaker 5: Even if he does play well, he's a health risk.
21:44
Speaker 5: You know, it's a very timing-oriented offense. Is he going
21:46
Speaker 5: to be able to run that? I love a lot
21:49
Speaker 5: of the players. I love the roster. I'm worried about
21:51
Speaker 5: the quarterback.
21:52
Speaker 4: All right, that's it. That's our NFC North. We'll get
21:53
Speaker 4: to these every day on Not So Fast. But coming
21:55
Speaker 4: up next, NBC Sports College Football Insider, Nicole Auerbach, joins
22:00
Speaker 4: the show. Gets us ready for five days of college football.
22:03
Speaker 4: Can't wait. Stick around. Not so fast.
22:07
Speaker 3: Welcome back. Not so fast.
22:08
Speaker 5: Andrew Perloff, Paul Paps here at NBC Sports Now and Peacock. Now, Paul,
22:12
Speaker 5: if you're watching college football anywhere on NBC, you're going
22:16
Speaker 5: to see a lot of Nicole Auerbach. She's the lead
22:18
Speaker 5: college football analyst, of course. Tonight, the debut of Rushing
22:22
Speaker 5: the Field with Joshua Perry. We're so excited for that.
22:24
Speaker 3: Nicole, how you doing?
22:27
Speaker 8: I am doing great. I am so excited to actually
22:30
Speaker 8: get football to talk about and not eligibility lawsuits like
22:34
Speaker 8: we've had all offseason.
22:35
Speaker 4: Now, your show tonight, is it going to be in
22:36
Speaker 4: Ann Arbor?
22:38
Speaker 6: Yes, it is.
22:38
Speaker 8: We're at Good Time Charlie's, one of the best bars
22:41
Speaker 8: in Ann Arbor. Many a trivia night I've spent at
22:45
Speaker 8: this bar.
22:46
Speaker 4: So you went to Michigan. We did our research on
22:48
Speaker 4: Not So Fast. We do that. Now, yesterday on the show,
22:51
Speaker 4: we played the clip of Appalachian State versus Michigan, I
22:54
Speaker 4: think 07 with the upset of number five Michigan. Were
22:57
Speaker 4: you at Michigan at the time?
22:59
Speaker 8: I sure was. That was my very first game of
23:02
Speaker 8: my freshman year.
23:03
Speaker 6: No way.
23:04
Speaker 8: My absolute first college football game. I grew up in
23:07
Speaker 8: New Jersey, pro sports area, grew up going to Jets
23:10
Speaker 8: games everywhere. And this was my first college football experience.
23:13
Speaker 8: I obviously did not know that I would go on to, like,
23:15
Speaker 8: cover college football.
23:16
Speaker 3: Right.
23:17
Speaker 8: But very memorable start.
23:18
Speaker 3: Did you consider transferring to Ohio State after that game?
23:21
Speaker 5: No. You probably went for the football, and you're like, oh,
23:23
Speaker 5: my God, now I'm the mush.
23:25
Speaker 3: We're not good.
23:26
Speaker 8: Well, the crazy part is, yes, I mean, I remember
23:28
Speaker 8: leaving and it was just like this stunned silence and
23:30
Speaker 8: being like, that is not what was supposed to happen.
23:33
Speaker 8: But also, so first of all, I was the only
23:36
Speaker 8: person that went to Michigan for my entire high school
23:40
Speaker 8: and from my entire friend group. So everyone was texting me.
23:43
Speaker 8: Everyone was calling me. Everyone was making fun of me
23:46
Speaker 8: for it. And the worst part was as someone who
23:49
Speaker 8: is so excited to go to a big state school,
23:51
Speaker 8: like we had the student season ticket shirts, like t-shirts,
23:55
Speaker 8: they're really cute. I could never wear it again because
23:57
Speaker 8: it said Appalachian state, like on the top line of
24:00
Speaker 8: the back of the shirt. So I could never wear
24:01
Speaker 8: the t-shirts.
24:02
Speaker 4: Oh, before we put a bow on that, if you
24:04
Speaker 4: could find that shirt, we'll put up in studio because
24:06
Speaker 4: Darren Revell would bid on that shirt. That's a classic.
24:08
Speaker 4: All right, Nicole, you cover the Big Ten. You're locked
24:10
Speaker 4: in on the Big Ten. If you look at the
24:12
Speaker 4: Big Ten right now, Ohio State, Indiana, Oregon, and then
24:16
Speaker 4: it drops a tier. Is that where you see it?
24:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is.
24:19
Speaker 8: I've been calling them the big three in the Big Ten.
24:21
Speaker 8: You know, the rankings reflect that. I actually think Indiana
24:25
Speaker 8: is a little low. I have them number one in
24:27
Speaker 8: my ballot for the eight people. But in general, yeah,
24:30
Speaker 8: those three feel like the true national title contenders, true
24:34
Speaker 8: Big Ten title contenders. And then the next group is, hey,
24:37
Speaker 8: is there going to be a fourth team emerge? Is
24:39
Speaker 8: there a fourth team in the college football playoff? And
24:41
Speaker 8: there's a whole group of teams in that category. You know,
24:43
Speaker 8: you could go obviously USC and what Lincoln Riley is
24:46
Speaker 8: trying to get breakthrough for the first time with with
24:50
Speaker 8: the Trojans. I think Washington's dark horse got to put
24:52
Speaker 8: it in that category. Penn State's got a very friendly schedule.
24:55
Speaker 3: And then Michigan.
24:57
Speaker 8: They've got a brutal schedule but you still got Bryce
24:59
Speaker 8: Underwood if he can really take that jump if Kyle
25:01
Speaker 8: Whittingham can you know impact and and have a program
25:04
Speaker 8: that is in his image tough physical athletic maybe they've
25:08
Speaker 8: got a chance too so all of those teams and
25:10
Speaker 8: maybe even Iowa based on their schedule are kind of
25:12
Speaker 8: in that middle tier trying to fight to get into
25:15
Speaker 8: that top group.
25:16
Speaker 5: Okay Nicole I'm going to put you on the spot
25:18
Speaker 5: best quarterback in the Big Ten oh Oh, that is.
25:21
Speaker 8: Such a tough question. I go Dante Moore. I understand
25:25
Speaker 8: all the arguments for all the other guys, especially Julian Sane, right?
25:27
Speaker 8: Like he was fourth in the Heisman voting last year.
25:30
Speaker 8: But I think it's Dante Moore. I just think he
25:32
Speaker 8: obviously is pro-ready, but he chose to come back. And
25:36
Speaker 8: he orchestrates such an explosive, electric offense. But it's his
25:42
Speaker 8: playmaking ability that allows them to do that. I love Moore.
25:44
Speaker 6: I love Dante.
25:45
Speaker 4: Okay, I want to go to the state of Indiana,
25:47
Speaker 4: not the school of Indiana. the most threatening college football
25:50
Speaker 4: team this year in the state of Indiana is?
25:54
Speaker 8: Okay, so that's a tough question for me because I
25:57
Speaker 8: put Indiana as my preseason number one, but I have
26:01
Speaker 8: Notre Dame winning a national championship.
26:02
Speaker 4: Okay, I respect that.
26:03
Speaker 8: And I have them beating Indiana to do so. So, like,
26:06
Speaker 8: I'm all in on the state of Indiana. I do
26:09
Speaker 8: think it's Notre Dame. Obviously, their season comes down to
26:12
Speaker 8: just a couple of big games, but I think that
26:15
Speaker 8: that is... the team that is best equipped to win
26:18
Speaker 8: a national title, a quarterback who I think might end
26:21
Speaker 8: up being the best quarterback in the country this year,
26:23
Speaker 8: the best defender in the country in Leonard Moore. They
26:26
Speaker 8: just don't have any questions. They don't have any weaknesses.
26:28
Speaker 8: And I think they're going to handle those big moments
26:30
Speaker 8: better than they did a year ago.
26:32
Speaker 5: All right, Nicole, I'm going to take you down to
26:34
Speaker 5: the SEC. University of Texas, Arch Manning obviously gets a
26:37
Speaker 5: lot of attention.
26:38
Speaker 3: Let me ask about Coach Steve Sarkeesian.
26:41
Speaker 5: If Texas does not make the college football playoff, what
26:44
Speaker 5: happens down in Austin?
26:47
Speaker 8: I think it gets very uncomfortable. Like it's hard to
26:49
Speaker 8: talk hot seat about some of these coaches that have,
26:52
Speaker 8: you know, big buyouts, but big expectations. And we got
26:56
Speaker 8: there right to the point with with James Franklin and
26:58
Speaker 8: Brian Kelly last year that you would have said, you know,
27:00
Speaker 8: people were being financially prudent. We wouldn't be having this conversation,
27:03
Speaker 8: but that's not what college sports is. So I think
27:06
Speaker 8: life does get very uncomfortable, especially just with the disappointment
27:09
Speaker 8: of last year, not even making the playoffs. and all
27:12
Speaker 8: the hype around Arch Manning if he does not develop him.
27:15
Speaker 8: He's supposed to be an offensive guru. He's supposed to
27:17
Speaker 8: have great quarterback play. But this year he added weapons
27:21
Speaker 8: around Arch. He added the best running back and the
27:23
Speaker 8: best receiver that were available in the transfer portal this year.
27:26
Speaker 8: So there really shouldn't be any other questions, any other excuses.
27:33
Speaker 8: I do think that they have a tough draw. The
27:35
Speaker 8: SEC is going to be brutal with the nine conference games.
27:39
Speaker 8: I think it still goes through Athens, but I, man,
27:43
Speaker 8: I mean, it's such a tough question. I do think
27:45
Speaker 8: that we're going to end up having hot seat conversations
27:47
Speaker 8: about Steve Parkeesian, whether or not he chooses to maybe
27:50
Speaker 8: look for other jobs and opportunities in the NFL or
27:52
Speaker 8: something like that. Or we'll just be talking about his
27:56
Speaker 8: job status because that's unacceptable, you know, especially after they
27:59
Speaker 8: were a couple of plays away from making the national
28:00
Speaker 8: championship game not very long ago.
28:02
Speaker 4: All right, Nicole, let's stay in the SEC. Lane Kiffin's
28:05
Speaker 4: getting all the coverage. LSU is good. I don't know
28:07
Speaker 4: if they're, national title good, but I want to go
28:09
Speaker 4: to Ole Miss. Trinidad Chambliss is still there. He's like
28:12
Speaker 4: a Dr. Chambliss. He's been in college so long. But
28:15
Speaker 4: Kiwan Lacy, they've got a coach that people aren't talking
28:18
Speaker 4: about because they're in the rear view. More threatening this
28:21
Speaker 4: year for the national title, Ole Miss or LSU?
28:24
Speaker 8: I think it's LSU, but you're totally right about the
28:27
Speaker 8: Ole Miss offense. They're going to put up a ton
28:30
Speaker 8: of points, a ton of yards. Trinidad Chambliss will be
28:33
Speaker 8: a finalist. He'll be in New York as a high
28:35
Speaker 8: school I just I think that LSU with Sam Levitt,
28:41
Speaker 8: when he's been healthy, we've seen this. It's been a
28:43
Speaker 8: minute since he was healthy at Arizona State. We saw
28:45
Speaker 8: them go on their magical run to the playoff. He
28:48
Speaker 8: is a difference maker. He can make a lot of
28:49
Speaker 8: plays that not a lot of guys can't. They obviously
28:52
Speaker 8: spent big in that portal to get, you know, the
28:54
Speaker 8: type of athletes that you need for LSU. There's so
28:57
Speaker 8: much pressure, so much expectation on LSU to be ultra
29:00
Speaker 8: competitive in year one. But I think they have the
29:02
Speaker 8: talent to do that. Now, the question is, can they
29:06
Speaker 8: handle that trip back to Oxford mentally, physically, emotionally? I mean,
29:09
Speaker 8: that could derail a season. That could be difficult. Even
29:13
Speaker 8: opening with Clemson with everything that's kind of clouded or
29:16
Speaker 8: overshadowed this game because of eligibility issues as a potential distraction.
29:21
Speaker 8: But Lane Kiffin has been very good at compartmentalizing over
29:23
Speaker 8: the course of his career because there always seems to
29:25
Speaker 8: be a distraction somewhere. So I'm not too, too worried
29:28
Speaker 8: about those things. But I do think that their roster
29:31
Speaker 8: should put them in that top grouping in the SEC.
29:34
Speaker 8: And I do think not making the college football playoff
29:36
Speaker 8: in year one, not advancing kind of far in it
29:39
Speaker 8: would be a huge disadvantage. for Kiffin and company.
29:41
Speaker 5: All right, Nicole, you mentioned Clemson. I know you got
29:44
Speaker 5: some attention for some of your comments on Abbo Sweeney.
29:47
Speaker 5: Is it possible that his old school approach is going
29:49
Speaker 5: to work or is the.
29:50
Speaker 3: Game passed him by?
29:52
Speaker 8: That's been the question, and I think it continues to
29:55
Speaker 8: be the question with him. I mean, he obviously feels
29:58
Speaker 8: he was the king of college football like 10 years
30:01
Speaker 8: ago and would love for college football to still be
30:04
Speaker 8: where it was 10 years ago, where it was not
30:07
Speaker 8: dominated by NIL and the portal and all of this
30:10
Speaker 8: player movement. And you didn't have to re-recruit your roster.
30:14
Speaker 8: He got great players and developed them at Clemson. He
30:17
Speaker 8: had great coaches, a great offense coordinator, a great defense
30:19
Speaker 8: coordinator that stayed with him for a very long time.
30:22
Speaker 8: Some of them went on to other opportunities. He's a purist.
30:25
Speaker 8: He wants them to truly be student athletes. And all
30:28
Speaker 8: the reasons that everyone gets into coaching college football, he's
30:31
Speaker 8: there for. Now the question is, you know, can they
30:34
Speaker 8: actually do it at the high enough level to be
30:38
Speaker 8: an ACC contender, to be a national title contender in
30:40
Speaker 8: this era? I'm not sold on it.
30:43
Speaker 4: I'm not sure.
30:44
Speaker 8: But in a weird twist of fate, they're kind of
30:46
Speaker 8: America's team right now against LSU this weekend. So maybe
30:50
Speaker 8: this turns the tide.
30:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a lot of upside for Davo in this game.
30:54
Speaker 4: We do the Heisman a lot on this show, even
30:56
Speaker 4: though it's week one, a lot. We're debuting getting the
30:58
Speaker 4: Heisman tomorrow on Not So Fast. If I gave you
31:01
Speaker 4: Arch Manning or the field for the Heisman, where are
31:04
Speaker 4: you going?
31:05
Speaker 8: I'm going with the field. I just think there's too
31:07
Speaker 8: many other elite quarterbacks and programs that are going to
31:10
Speaker 8: be in the national championship conversation. Some great running backs.
31:14
Speaker 8: You still have like two of the best, the two
31:16
Speaker 8: players that I'm most excited to watch this year, Jeremiah Smith,
31:20
Speaker 8: Malachi Tony receivers, but they are household names. They could
31:23
Speaker 8: get in the mix too. So I just think there's
31:25
Speaker 8: too many other big name star players elsewhere.
31:29
Speaker 6: Now, if Texas.
31:30
Speaker 8: goes undefeated or goes on some crazy run and runs
31:33
Speaker 8: through the SEC. That conversation changes because the spotlight is
31:37
Speaker 8: on them and we'll be seeing that. But I just
31:40
Speaker 8: think after how high the expectations started with him, I
31:44
Speaker 8: just don't know if he can exceed it. And you
31:45
Speaker 8: have so many other talented quarterbacks, which is mostly a
31:48
Speaker 8: quarterback award these days.
31:49
Speaker 4: Okay, we like to do a little lifestyle on this show,
31:51
Speaker 4: not just the games. You've been around a little bit
31:53
Speaker 4: with college football. You've been all over, and I'm going
31:55
Speaker 4: to take Michigan off the board. If you had to
31:57
Speaker 4: go tailgate for a weekend or recommend someone, a novice,
32:00
Speaker 4: to just go tailgate, where the game may not be
32:02
Speaker 4: the star, but the tailgate may be the star, give
32:04
Speaker 4: us one or two you'd recommend.
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Speaker 8: Well, Penn State is awesome, and it's basically in the
32:10
Speaker 8: middle of nowhere, right? So, like, all the tailgating just, like,
32:12
Speaker 8: goes out from the stadium. They've got RV lots. They've
32:16
Speaker 8: just got regular, you know, cars and tents and all
32:19
Speaker 8: of that. I tried a deep-fried turkey leg there for
32:22
Speaker 8: the very first time. It was phenomenal. And they can also,
32:26
Speaker 8: very much like LSU, I put these two fan bases
32:28
Speaker 8: in the same category, they can sustain the drinking throughout
32:32
Speaker 8: the day.
32:33
Speaker 4: Stamina is what you're saying.
32:34
Speaker 3: Yeah.
32:35
Speaker 8: Stamina, which I think is very, very impressive. And I
32:40
Speaker 8: think that that's one that I.
32:41
Speaker 4: Would give you.
32:42
Speaker 8: And then I would say Wisconsin just because, again, the
32:44
Speaker 8: stamina is there. There's also cheese curds.
32:47
Speaker 4: There's broth.
32:47
Speaker 8: There's really good food. And that is a also just
32:51
Speaker 8: a lovely college town to just wander around.
32:53
Speaker 4: Fantastic breakdown by you, by the way.
32:54
Speaker 3: Fantastic.
32:56
Speaker 5: Nicole, tell us about rushing the field. Did you ever
32:58
Speaker 5: rush the field in Michigan? I mean, obviously you got
33:00
Speaker 5: off to a bad start. I went to Dartmouth. We
33:03
Speaker 5: rushed the library, not the field, unfortunately. Have you ever
33:06
Speaker 5: been in that mosh pit of a field like that?
33:09
Speaker 8: So I have not personally done it as a student because, again,
33:14
Speaker 8: to your point, like Michigan, you're not supposed to be
33:16
Speaker 8: rushing the field. But I have been in field storms
33:19
Speaker 8: and court storms as a reporter and they get a
33:23
Speaker 8: little crazy. I saw someone break either it was an
33:26
Speaker 8: arm or a leg during a basketball court storm. Cause
33:29
Speaker 8: those ones like you're right on the court and you
33:31
Speaker 8: can just get on the players and the court very quickly. Um,
33:36
Speaker 8: I was there when, uh, Iowa rushed the field when
33:38
Speaker 8: they beat Penn state a couple of years back. Um,
33:41
Speaker 8: and that was like the most polite field storm. Like
33:43
Speaker 8: it was, it was crazy.
33:44
Speaker 4: It was like a stroll.
33:45
Speaker 3: Yeah.
33:46
Speaker 8: It was strong. They were like, Oh, her ways for
33:47
Speaker 8: the reporters. The reporters need.
33:49
Speaker 6: To get to the tunnel.
33:49
Speaker 8: I was like, this is bizarre. You guys are just
33:52
Speaker 8: too nice.
33:52
Speaker 4: That was more of a field stroll than a field storm.
33:55
Speaker 4: Before we get you out of here, we like to
33:57
Speaker 4: do a thing. Such thing as a dumb question. Now,
34:00
Speaker 4: you talked a little bit about the physicality. You've been
34:02
Speaker 4: on many different fields. Have you ever been run over
34:04
Speaker 4: or partially run over by a stray player on the sidelines, Nicole?
34:09
Speaker 8: No, but you have to keep your head on its
34:11
Speaker 8: level because I've seen that happen many times. But I
34:13
Speaker 8: have not personally. I'm going to jinx myself by saying
34:15
Speaker 8: that I have not had this.
34:16
Speaker 3: Happen to me. What are you doing, Paul?
34:17
Speaker 4: My bad.
34:18
Speaker 5: We're going to watch all season long just to make
34:21
Speaker 5: sure Nicole's okay. Nicole, can't wait for your new show
34:24
Speaker 5: and to watch you all season long on NBC.
34:26
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us.
34:28
Speaker 8: Thanks for having me, guys.
34:29
Speaker 4: Thank you very much. Nicole, that's great. She went to Michigan.
34:32
Speaker 4: She was at the 07 game versus Appalachian State. She's
34:35
Speaker 4: been field storms, court storms. I'm so jealous we're not
34:39
Speaker 4: in Michigan with her this weekend.
34:40
Speaker 3: Oh, my God. I want to rush the field just
34:42
Speaker 3: one time.
34:43
Speaker 4: They don't do that at Dartmouth, right?
34:44
Speaker 3: No, they really don't. All right, coming up next, we
34:47
Speaker 3: have the Clip Joy. We'll hear from DP and guests.
34:50
Speaker 3: Not so fast. That was great.
34:53
Speaker 5: But, yeah, I've got to be honest. I'd be nervous
34:55
Speaker 5: doing sideline. You really do have to keep your head
34:57
Speaker 5: on a swivel.
34:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, low base, head on a swivel.
34:59
Speaker 1: Yeah.
34:59
Speaker 3: That's awesome.
35:07
Speaker 1: I wonder if Aaron Rodgers would have come back if
35:10
Speaker 1: you were still the head coach. Did you have conversations?
35:13
Speaker 1: You know, Mike comes in, but I wonder, you know,
35:17
Speaker 1: what would have happened?
35:19
Speaker 9: I believe he would have. Just spending 12 months with Aaron, man,
35:24
Speaker 9: this guy has a love affair with football and all
35:27
Speaker 9: components of it. The process, you know, meetings, team development.
35:34
Speaker 9: He loved training camp last year. You know what I mean?
35:37
Speaker 3: Not a lot of guys, man.
35:39
Speaker 9: Enjoy training camp settings the way I watched him enjoy it.
35:42
Speaker 9: And so I just think, man, he's built for it.
35:46
Speaker 9: He's healthy. He's certainly capable. And so I think that
35:50
Speaker 9: he would have strongly considered it regardless of circumstance. That's
35:54
Speaker 9: just my gut feeling.
35:55
Speaker 4: Back on Not So Fast with Paxton Perloff. That was
35:58
Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin, the former Steeler coach, the new NBC analyst.
36:01
Speaker 4: There's a lot to chop up there. First of all,
36:03
Speaker 4: This stoic leader of men, he was talking to us
36:06
Speaker 4: like he just came back from Margaritaville. The guy is
36:08
Speaker 4: relaxed and chill.
36:09
Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely. I was looking back at the archives. Mike
36:12
Speaker 3: Tomlin hasn't been on that much through the years.
36:14
Speaker 4: Honestly, I can remember maybe one eight years ago Mike
36:19
Speaker 4: Tomlin appearance on the show. He just doesn't do a
36:21
Speaker 4: lot besides taking care of the local market. And when
36:23
Speaker 4: he does do interviews, he's coach mode. And this was
36:28
Speaker 4: retired coach mode.
36:29
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just thought Dan threw a bit of a
36:30
Speaker 5: fastball there about Aaron Rodgers, but that's It's a question
36:33
Speaker 5: we're all wondering. Was that the reason that Rodgers came back?
36:36
Speaker 5: And Tomlin denied it and said the guy loves football.
36:39
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm not sure I totally bought that.
36:41
Speaker 3: But you know what? He seems pro Aaron Rodgers.
36:43
Speaker 4: It's got to be weird for Mike Tomlin because you're
36:45
Speaker 4: no longer the Steelers coach, but you feel like you're
36:48
Speaker 4: still a voice of the Steelers franchise.
36:50
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely.
36:51
Speaker 5: But that's a good omen, by the way, for a broadcaster. And,
36:55
Speaker 5: you know, Dan's really good with former players and former coaches.
36:57
Speaker 5: He tends to get a lot out of them. Will
37:00
Speaker 5: Tomlin be able to do that at halftime of big games?
37:02
Speaker 3: I think so. I think he'll call out guys.
37:04
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Dan talked about this. Dan hosts Football
37:06
Speaker 4: Night in America for many years, and he worked with
37:08
Speaker 4: different people, and he said, like, you have so many stories,
37:11
Speaker 4: and you just start bringing them out. And Dan is
37:13
Speaker 4: a master at, like, even off the air in a
37:15
Speaker 4: commercial break, he'll find out a story and be like,
37:17
Speaker 4: I'm going to ask you about that. And he'll just
37:19
Speaker 4: tell them, I'm going to ask you about that. I've
37:20
Speaker 4: seen him do it. And it's masterful. But these coaches
37:23
Speaker 4: and these players don't realize how many stories they have.
37:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
37:25
Speaker 5: And Tomlin, nobody says less with more sometimes. Some of
37:29
Speaker 5: the Tomlinisms that make no sense. I hope he does
37:33
Speaker 5: a couple of those too. I love, if anyone could do,
37:35
Speaker 5: I can't do it, but a Mike Tomlin impersonation is
37:37
Speaker 5: always funny.
37:37
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to bring the voice down. All right.
37:39
Speaker 4: Earlier today on the Dan Padgett Show, Pablo Torre, if
37:41
Speaker 4: Pablo Torre finds out, he was on the show and
37:44
Speaker 4: he has been in the show a lot lately because
37:47
Speaker 4: the thing with the Clippers, it all came out yesterday,
37:49
Speaker 4: the punishment. And Dan asked Pablo Torre, What's next with
37:52
Speaker 4: this story?
37:55
Speaker 10: Well, let's just take Steve Ballmer at his word. He
37:59
Speaker 10: has written a letter via his very expensive attorneys to
38:03
Speaker 10: Adam Silver blaming this podcaster for getting the NBA to
38:08
Speaker 10: do a prejudiced investigation. And at first, after the ruling
38:11
Speaker 10: came out, he threatened arbitration. And in the NBA, what
38:15
Speaker 10: Adam Silver knows better than Steve Ballmer and his lawyers
38:18
Speaker 10: know apparently is that arbitration can only be activated by
38:21
Speaker 10: the unions. And so arbitration, because of that settlement, is
38:25
Speaker 10: off the table. Can't go to arbitration. What can Steve
38:30
Speaker 10: Ballmer do? He can literally sue the NBA. He can
38:34
Speaker 10: sue Adam Silver. He can sue me. He can sue
38:36
Speaker 10: Wachtell Lipton. He can sue you.
38:37
Speaker 4: He can sue everybody.
38:39
Speaker 10: And that opens the door to, spoiler alert, more discovery
38:43
Speaker 10: of documents.
38:46
Speaker 5: Paul, I can't remember a journalist who deserves a victory
38:48
Speaker 5: lap more than Pablo Torre. Because as he mentioned there,
38:51
Speaker 5: bombers denied it all, said this podcaster is coming out
38:54
Speaker 5: of nowhere with these facts.
38:56
Speaker 3: All, to me, proven to be true. Pablo was right
38:58
Speaker 3: on from the start.
38:59
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'd be shocking if this has a... I think
39:01
Speaker 4: the story has other developments in it, but I don't
39:03
Speaker 4: think it's going to go the other way. It feels
39:05
Speaker 4: like Pablo Torre can do the Larry Bird three-point shooting contest,
39:09
Speaker 4: finger up, it's over, Johnny.
39:10
Speaker 3: And I... I'm with the NBA. I don't love bombers
39:14
Speaker 3: denying everything.
39:14
Speaker 5: I mean, if you did it, at a certain point,
39:16
Speaker 5: you're going to have to come clean, but they are
39:18
Speaker 5: still fighting, Paul.
39:18
Speaker 4: I don't think the NFL would let this happen. I
39:20
Speaker 4: think the NFL and Roger Goodell would say to the owner, look,
39:23
Speaker 4: we're going to make an agreement here, and you're going
39:25
Speaker 4: to maybe have to eat this and eat this punishment,
39:27
Speaker 4: but maybe more of a mild punishment. because the NFL
39:30
Speaker 4: doesn't really go scorched earth. They go mildly scorched.
39:32
Speaker 5: Can I remind you of Spygate? Hey, can I remind
39:35
Speaker 5: you of Deflategate?
39:36
Speaker 4: But okay, I'll challenge you back on that because I
39:39
Speaker 4: think the Patriots lost one first round pick on that.
39:42
Speaker 4: And if you compare one to five, I think five
39:44
Speaker 4: is a lot more than one.
39:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what hurt the Patriots is that,
39:48
Speaker 3: in my opinion... They did it.
39:51
Speaker 10: Yes.
39:51
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
39:52
Speaker 3: Yeah.
39:53
Speaker 5: So that was a problem. I think Bomber did it, too.
39:55
Speaker 5: So he should follow the lead. He, at some point,
39:57
Speaker 5: has to say, you're right.
39:58
Speaker 3: Pablo, you're right. NBA, you're right. Just give me my
40:00
Speaker 3: draft picks back. All right.
40:01
Speaker 4: That was a little basketball. Let's get back to the NFL,
40:03
Speaker 4: the season in six days. Hot new segment here on
40:06
Speaker 4: Not So Fast, Perloff. People are already talking about it
40:08
Speaker 4: before it even happened. This is called Superlofftives.
40:12
Speaker 6: Superlofftives.
40:14
Speaker 3: Superlofftives.
40:14
Speaker 4: Explain this to the country.
40:16
Speaker 5: Okay, these are the most something.
40:18
Speaker 3: You know, superlative, most something.
40:20
Speaker 5: I was originally called the Indomitian Superlofftives, but the graphics
40:23
Speaker 5: people said that.
40:24
Speaker 3: Was too long and too hard to spell.
40:25
Speaker 4: Got it.
40:25
Speaker 5: All right, so I'm going to do three Superlofftives, starting
40:28
Speaker 5: with the most overhyped team.
40:30
Speaker 3: I'm going to do overhyped, underhyped, and properly hyped.
40:34
Speaker 5: Most overhyped team coming into the 2026 season. Most overhyped
40:38
Speaker 5: team coming into pretty much every season. I'm not going
40:41
Speaker 5: to go too far than the normal. The Dallas Cowboys
40:44
Speaker 5: are the most overhyped team in the NFL. Their win total, Paul,
40:47
Speaker 5: is at nine and a half games. This is a
40:49
Speaker 5: team that won seven games last year. So already that's
40:52
Speaker 5: a jump. But I looked at the DraftKings numbers. Guess
40:54
Speaker 5: what percentage of the public is choosing the over on
40:57
Speaker 5: nine and a half wins?
40:59
Speaker 3: Over 90%, 91% go over on the Cowboys wins.
41:03
Speaker 5: Now, everyone thinks their defense is fixed, in part because
41:05
Speaker 5: they drafted Caleb Downs, a safety out of Ohio State.
41:08
Speaker 3: He's going to be a great player.
41:09
Speaker 5: But when is a rookie safety completely transformed a defense?
41:14
Speaker 5: I'm still worried about the defense. Listen, they've had great
41:17
Speaker 5: Dak Prescott seasons before. Maybe they get to double-digit wins,
41:20
Speaker 5: but I'm not scared that they're going to make the
41:22
Speaker 5: NFC title game for the first time since 96, Paul.
41:25
Speaker 3: I think the hype is out of control.
41:27
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like you poo-pooing the Cowboys because everybody wants
41:30
Speaker 4: to put them into the broadcasting. I will say, though,
41:32
Speaker 4: I like the direction of their team, and I think
41:34
Speaker 4: that defense next year, there's always next year for the Cowboys.
41:37
Speaker 4: I think next year the Cowboys could be their season
41:39
Speaker 4: because Caleb Downs will be a sophomore, second-year player. They'll
41:43
Speaker 4: kind of develop their defense.
41:44
Speaker 3: A little bit.
41:44
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then hopefully we're sitting right here. Next year
41:47
Speaker 5: I will have the most overhyped team.
41:48
Speaker 3: All right, next. Underhyped, baby. Underhyped.
41:51
Speaker 5: Okay, here's another team no one's talking about. The Jacksonville
41:54
Speaker 5: Jaguars won 13 games last year. Their win total's at
41:56
Speaker 5: eight and a half somehow. And I don't hear anyone
41:59
Speaker 5: talking about Jacksonville. They had the number 11 defense in
42:02
Speaker 5: the NFL. Trevor Lawrence took another step. And here's what
42:06
Speaker 5: I think the special sauce is.
42:07
Speaker 3: Gonna be this year, Paul.
42:08
Speaker 5: No one's talking about Travis Hunter anymore.
42:10
Speaker 3: It doesn't even come up.
42:11
Speaker 5: I think he's going to play cornerback a lot, and
42:13
Speaker 5: I think that's probably where he should be.
42:15
Speaker 3: He's going to have an impact.
42:16
Speaker 5: He's going to be a playmaker, a little bit like
42:18
Speaker 5: Deion Sanders was with the Cowboys and the Niners and
42:21
Speaker 5: the Falcons. I think you're going to see some big
42:23
Speaker 5: plays on defense out of the former Heisman winner. I
42:28
Speaker 5: don't understand why is everyone down on Jackson. I don't
42:30
Speaker 5: think people like Liam Cohen. I think he's going to
42:32
Speaker 5: be a really good coach. But Jacksonville deserves more hype.
42:34
Speaker 4: All right, quickly, I like the superlative badge. I would
42:36
Speaker 4: like one for my shirt. It'll be coming on Trevor Lawrence.
42:39
Speaker 4: Let's go right to properly hyped.
42:42
Speaker 5: Okay, properly hyped is tough. But I like the Houston
42:45
Speaker 5: Texans as the right amount of hype. Because there's pretty
42:48
Speaker 5: good hype, but there's always a question mark.
42:50
Speaker 3: We love the defense. Number one defense in the NFL.
42:52
Speaker 5: Will Anderson and Daniil Hunter, unstoppable on the D-line.
42:56
Speaker 3: But we're not quite sure about C.J. Stroud.
42:58
Speaker 5: They are ninth in Super Bowl odds. Paul, I think
43:01
Speaker 5: that's the proper level of hype. I think people are
43:04
Speaker 5: viewing this Texans team.
43:05
Speaker 3: The right way.
43:06
Speaker 5: They are a very good team. They need to show
43:09
Speaker 5: something on offense. And generally, looking around predictions, that's what
43:12
Speaker 5: everyone is saying about them. I have them as my
43:14
Speaker 5: properly hyped team.
43:15
Speaker 4: I think that's fair because they feel good, but they
43:18
Speaker 4: don't feel completely threatening because of C.J.
43:20
Speaker 7: Stroud.
43:20
Speaker 5: Right, and it won't be disappointing if they don't make
43:22
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl, but you wouldn't be surprised.
43:24
Speaker 3: Properly hyped.
43:25
Speaker 4: That sounds good to me. All right, coming up next,
43:27
Speaker 4: constructive criticism and, oh, the feel-good. Never forget the feel-good.
43:31
Speaker 4: Stick around. Not so fast. Coming back.
43:34
Speaker 3: Welcome back.
43:35
Speaker 5: Not so fast. NBC Sports Now and Peacock. We're a
43:38
Speaker 5: week away from the big game on NBC, Seahawks-Patriots. And
43:42
Speaker 5: right after that, we go to Australia, Paul. Now, there
43:45
Speaker 5: are two different strategies here. San Francisco left yesterday, and
43:49
Speaker 5: I think they have probably touched down in Melbourne.
43:52
Speaker 3: Melbourne? Melbourne? Melbourne? We're going to have to work on
43:55
Speaker 3: that next week.
43:56
Speaker 5: The Rams are waiting until next week, and they are
43:58
Speaker 5: going to arrive the day before the game. In your mind,
44:01
Speaker 5: what's a better strategy for adjusting to the time zone?
44:03
Speaker 4: Oh, we're breaking down the game by time zone and rest.
44:06
Speaker 3: Yes. You know, it's a 17-hour difference, by the way.
44:08
Speaker 8: Right.
44:09
Speaker 4: I had no idea.
44:09
Speaker 3: All right.
44:10
Speaker 4: I like what the Rams are doing. It's like when
44:12
Speaker 4: you go to Vegas. You just ignore the clocks. The
44:14
Speaker 4: Rams are going to go fly there, and they should
44:16
Speaker 4: just stay on L.A.
44:17
Speaker 1: Time.
44:18
Speaker 4: You get in. You do L.A. time stuff. I think
44:20
Speaker 4: the game, the kickoff is 1035 local time. You just
44:24
Speaker 4: ignore everything local. It's like going to a country without
44:26
Speaker 4: seeing a country. That's the ramp strategy.
44:28
Speaker 3: Yeah.
44:28
Speaker 5: You know, they, they actually had a sleep expert who
44:30
Speaker 5: said that's a better way. I get that. You know,
44:33
Speaker 5: when I go on vacation, if it's a different time zone,
44:35
Speaker 5: I feel much better four days in than the first day.
44:38
Speaker 5: I think, you know, the Niners, they do some tourist stuff.
44:40
Speaker 3: See, uh, A koala bear? I don't know.
44:42
Speaker 5: The local Sydney Opera House, which is not in Melbourne.
44:46
Speaker 4: That's all we know.
44:48
Speaker 3: I don't know. This will play out on the field.
44:49
Speaker 3: And both teams are old and have a lot of injuries,
44:51
Speaker 3: so this should be interesting.
44:52
Speaker 4: All right, it's time for a little constructive criticism. We
44:55
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44:56
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44:59
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45:02
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45:06
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45:12
Speaker 4: I'll go first.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 4: I will say I'm going to go with the, and
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Speaker 4: I've given this very little thought, the San Diego Padres.
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Speaker 4: I would love just to walk in every day, live
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Speaker 4: in a condo by the ballpark, walk in, grab a beer,
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Speaker 4: and watch my Padres. I love earth tones. I love
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Speaker 4: the colors. I'd be a Padres owner and just sit
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Speaker 4: there in center field and join my team.
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Speaker 5: That is a great call, and who doesn't want to
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Speaker 5: live in San Diego? Would you have an apartment inside
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Speaker 5: the stadium?
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Speaker 4: Can we do that?
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Speaker 3: Well, don't they have that in Toronto?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm in. I'm doing that.
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Speaker 3: All right, I want the Cincinnati Bengals.
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Speaker 5: I want a team that has never won at the
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Speaker 5: highest level, because if I do that, I am a
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Speaker 5: god in that city. So I'm going with the Bengals,
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Speaker 5: look at the Lions, definitely NFL, and definitely not a
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Speaker 5: high bar.
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Speaker 4: But you don't like the chili dog situation in Cincinnati.
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Speaker 5: No, not a chili. A little watery for me, Paul.
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Speaker 4: A little watery, a little watery. All right, let's get
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Speaker 4: to some leftovers. We always have room for leftovers. College
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Speaker 4: football starts tonight. It's a mishmash of games, some directional schools,
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Speaker 4: some hyphens. I got Akron at number 25, Missouri.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 4: I got Idaho at number 21, Utah. I got Eastern Illinois,
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Speaker 4: quarterbacks from Eastern Illinois.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's Jimmy G, right?
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 4: Sean Payton.
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Speaker 3: Ooh.
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Speaker 4: And Tony Romo, all Eastern Illinois Panthers. I think they're
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Speaker 4: the Panthers. Against Minnesota on Peacock.
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Speaker 3: Oh, Drake Lindsey, by the way, big-time NFL prospect, Minnesota.
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Speaker 3: Watch out. Yep.
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Speaker 4: And the good game tonight, or the saucy game tonight,
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Speaker 4: would be Georgia at, I'm sorry, Colorado at Georgia Tech.
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Speaker 4: Great uniforms for Georgia Tech.
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Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh.
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Speaker 5: I think you were talking about this earlier. This is
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Speaker 5: not the Colorado debut of a couple years ago.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 4: Marvin and I were talking on the Dan Patrick Show two,
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Speaker 4: three years ago, his appointment programming with Deion. and everybody
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Speaker 4: was there. I think Big Noon Kickoff was there a
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Speaker 4: couple times.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Lil Wayne, The Rock, everybody was there, but not
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Speaker 5: so much anymore. I believe Georgia Tech has Fernando Mendoza's brother.
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Speaker 5: I have to double-check that.
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Speaker 4: Tune in tonight to watch Fernando Mendoza's brother.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, that's not bad. They got something there. Actually,
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Speaker 5: back to the Minnesota game. Drake Lindsey, you know, NFL
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Speaker 5: loves height. This guy's huge, Paul.
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Speaker 3: Watch him. Watch him now. He's going to work his
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Speaker 3: way into first-round mocks, I believe.
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Speaker 4: You are a heightist. But college football, we got five
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Speaker 4: days of college football. We got Western Michigan, Michigan this weekend.
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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 4: Notre Dame versus Wisconsin at Lambeau. That's a bonus coverage game.
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Speaker 3: Oh, that'd be so fun. Are you going to make
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Speaker 3: it out for that game? I know it's a long weekend.
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Speaker 4: I'm considering it. I have talked to NBC, and they
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Speaker 4: said they didn't actually respond to my text. All right,
47:32
Speaker 4: it's time for the feel good. We're going to get
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Speaker 4: you out of here feeling good before we wrap up
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Speaker 4: our day on Not So Fast.
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Speaker 8: Here we go.
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Speaker 4: Pearl, you're going to like this.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 4: I'm a dog owner. Oh, look at that.
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Speaker 7: Aw.
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Speaker 4: It's canine picture day at the University of Cincinnati Police Department.
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Speaker 4: And look at that fellow, Remy. He looks like a
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Speaker 4: German shorthair.
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Speaker 3: That is a good boy. That's fantastic.
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Speaker 4: I love that guy.
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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, you have a dog, Paul.
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Speaker 5: Do you ever take photos, like family photos, and have
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Speaker 5: trouble corralling?
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Speaker 3: It's Archie, right?
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Speaker 4: It's more, yeah, Archie the dog. He behaves. It's the
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Speaker 4: kids you have to corral, not the dog.
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Speaker 3: Was Archie named after Archie Manning? Archie?
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Speaker 4: I think it was named after Archie Manning.
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Speaker 3: Archie Griffith, two-time Heisman winner?
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Speaker 4: All of the above.
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Speaker 3: That was cute, by the way.
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Speaker 4: All right, six days to the NFL season.
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Speaker 3: What else?
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Speaker 4: We're ramping up. You getting ready? You feeling good?
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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, a lot of college this weekend. I mean,
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Speaker 5: you don't have your one versus two like last year,
48:27
Speaker 5: but I got to be honest. I have to do
48:28
Speaker 5: a lot of picks, a lot of fantasy drafts. We're
48:30
Speaker 5: going to do Super Bowl picks next week.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Super Bowl picks next week. College football picks tomorrow.
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Speaker 4: Heisman picks tomorrow. We're going to give them the Heisman
48:37
Speaker 4: on this show. And, of course, the AFC North. We'll
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Speaker 4: get to all of that.
48:40
Speaker 5: And I heard a rumor we have a very special
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Speaker 5: guest possibly tomorrow.
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Speaker 4: He might be right down the hall from us right now.
48:46
Speaker 4: All right, thanks a lot for watching Not So Fast
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Speaker 4: right here on NBC Sports Now. And tune in to
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Speaker 4: the Dan Patrick Show, 9 to noon Eastern every day,
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Speaker 4: DP and the boys right down the hall. Thanks for
48:55
Speaker 4: coming with us. Take care.