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- 0:00Speaker 1: You have soul companies, you're invested in companies. But if
- 0:04Speaker 1: we have to go back, how did all this started.
- 0:07Speaker 2: The investment that I put into it was my parents' loan.
- 0:12Speaker 2: I want to hire the right people. I want to
- 0:13Speaker 2: work with the best, and I want to make sure
- 0:15Speaker 2: that when we put together something for that business and
- 0:18Speaker 2: I get a system behind it so that we can
- 0:20Speaker 2: have a systematized process that people can follow.
- 0:23Speaker 1: Everyone is stating that you should be multitasking, but based
- 0:28Speaker 1: on everything that you mentioned, it seems that you're not
- 0:32Speaker 1: doing the same thing. Hello, and welcome to Behind Numbers.
- 0:37Speaker 1: Today's guest is someone who has built, lost and rebuilt
- 0:42Speaker 1: multiple times, and he's doing all of it while being
- 0:46Speaker 1: also a father of it. Let's go behind the numbers
- 0:49Speaker 1: with Bubba Paige.
- 0:50Speaker 2: Hey, thanks Solesandro. I appreciate you having me on. This
- 0:54Speaker 2: has been a wild journey, this whole idea behind being
- 0:57Speaker 2: an entrepreneur and having eight children and seeing behind me
- 1:01Speaker 2: I've got kids that are six years old all the
- 1:03Speaker 2: way to sixteen, four boys, four girls. It is a
- 1:07Speaker 2: beautiful chaos. I love to say that I never imagined
- 1:10Speaker 2: even having eight kids, but we just kept feeling like
- 1:14Speaker 2: there was another one, and then at the end we
- 1:16Speaker 2: got twins. So boy girl twins made number seven and eight.
- 1:20Speaker 2: And it's kind of like we're building our own little
- 1:23Speaker 2: startup here. We've got all these little people running around
- 1:25Speaker 2: and we're creating systems and processes, and just like I
- 1:30Speaker 2: did with my startups.
- 1:31Speaker 1: I feel that you just spoiled one of my questions
- 1:35Speaker 1: because I am a dad too, but just of one
- 1:39Speaker 1: and after a long day, I love her to death,
- 1:42Speaker 1: but I'm so tired. So one of my questions would
- 1:46Speaker 1: have been, how can you manage all this? How can
- 1:49Speaker 1: you manage being a dead of eight? And if anyone
- 1:53Speaker 1: is going to go through your link it in, they
- 1:56Speaker 1: will see how many things you're doing right now.
- 2:00Speaker 2: Look, I'm not doing it alone. So this is a
- 2:02Speaker 2: big piece. I'm a big believer in systems. I'm a
- 2:05Speaker 2: big believer in people and process and so when I
- 2:08Speaker 2: build a company, I want to hire the right people.
- 2:10Speaker 2: I want to work with the best, and I want
- 2:11Speaker 2: to make sure that when we put together something for
- 2:14Speaker 2: that business and I get a system behind it so
- 2:16Speaker 2: that we can have a systematized process that people can follow.
- 2:21Speaker 2: It's funny, but I do the same thing at home.
- 2:24Speaker 2: It's if I'm going to interview my employees and my
- 2:28Speaker 2: team members and we're going to do KPIs and we're
- 2:31Speaker 2: going to do one on ones. I'm going to do
- 2:33Speaker 2: that at home too. Why wouldn't I meet with my
- 2:36Speaker 2: children one on one to see what are they struggling
- 2:39Speaker 2: with and what are their roadblocks and what are their
- 2:41Speaker 2: goals and dreams and be able to help them overcome that,
- 2:45Speaker 2: and then KPIs in business, I would do that at home.
- 2:48Speaker 2: So kids, what are you trying to accomplish? What are
- 2:50Speaker 2: the goals you want to do? I try to block
- 2:53Speaker 2: out my day and so in the morning, I'm going
- 2:55Speaker 2: to the gym. I'm trying to take care of my body,
- 2:57Speaker 2: trying to take care of my health because if my
- 2:59Speaker 2: by he is moving and I'm eating and fueling properly,
- 3:03Speaker 2: then I should have more energy throughout the day. Anyway,
- 3:07Speaker 2: I'm not a big caffeine drinker. That's just not me.
- 3:09Speaker 2: I don't like soda and caffeine. I don't need it.
- 3:13Speaker 2: But the only reason I'm not needing it is because
- 3:14Speaker 2: I try to get a reasonable amount of sleep at
- 3:17Speaker 2: the end of the day. Six and a half, seven
- 3:19Speaker 2: hours is where I'm trying to hit every night and
- 3:21Speaker 2: it doesn't always happen. And I get that, especially when
- 3:24Speaker 2: you have little babies. I was hardly getting any sleep
- 3:27Speaker 2: when I had twins, and that was really hard. But
- 3:30Speaker 2: sleep and health is so critical. It's vital because when
- 3:34Speaker 2: you get triggered by something, Let's say it's something simple,
- 3:39Speaker 2: but the kid is making loud noises, doing X, Y
- 3:42Speaker 2: and Z things in the home. There's a few different
- 3:44Speaker 2: ways that you can either react or respond if it's
- 3:47Speaker 2: triggering to you because you're sensitive to that sound and ah,
- 3:51Speaker 2: you can't handle it. You can do some breeding exercises
- 3:55Speaker 2: to try and get yourself composed and regulate that nervous system.
- 4:00Speaker 2: You can respond in a way, for example, that if
- 4:03Speaker 2: they're pounding on the piano doing what they are practicing right,
- 4:08Speaker 2: and or their trumpet, or they're on the drums, like
- 4:10Speaker 2: all my kids are playing all these instruments right, And
- 4:14Speaker 2: if it's getting irritating to me, I ask myself, why
- 4:17Speaker 2: am I irritated? Because it's not them, because I've loved
- 4:22Speaker 2: listening to them, I've loved hearing them play. I'm grateful
- 4:24Speaker 2: they're practicing because I've asked them to practice. So why
- 4:28Speaker 2: why am I irritated? And if I think for a
- 4:31Speaker 2: second and wonder why, I look back and say, Okay,
- 4:34Speaker 2: have I eaten? Did I get enough sleep? Because am
- 4:38Speaker 2: I irritable? Right? Have I taken care of my body
- 4:42Speaker 2: in a way? And my mind is to me? It's
- 4:44Speaker 2: such a big piece when parents can come in the
- 4:46Speaker 2: home with somewhat of a cleared mind and a focused
- 4:51Speaker 2: energy that can be present, which means you have to
- 4:54Speaker 2: put your phone away, You need to turn off the notifications,
- 4:57Speaker 2: and if there's an urgent matter, of course, you can
- 5:00Speaker 2: let the family know that there's an urgent matter. But
- 5:03Speaker 2: as soon as that's done, you go back. It'd be
- 5:07Speaker 2: present in that vein. And sometimes many times I've had
- 5:11Speaker 2: to put the kids bed and get back on the laptop,
- 5:13Speaker 2: get back on a phone call. But I like to
- 5:16Speaker 2: focus those last few hours of the day. Those are
- 5:19Speaker 2: with my kids. That's my family time. It's family dinner,
- 5:22Speaker 2: it's playing outside, throwing the ball around, it's wrestling with
- 5:25Speaker 2: those kids. It's finished helping them finish their homework or
- 5:27Speaker 2: a school project. These are the pieces where I get passionate.
- 5:31Speaker 2: You know, I love it.
- 5:32Speaker 1: I love it, And you mentioned more than once the
- 5:36Speaker 1: word focus, because now everyone is stating that you should
- 5:41Speaker 1: be multitasking, but based on everything that you mentioned, it
- 5:45Speaker 1: seems that you're not doing the same thing.
- 5:49Speaker 3: So do you think that multitasking.
- 5:52Speaker 1: Is better or it is better to just focus on
- 5:54Speaker 1: what you're doing right now and as you mentioned, then
- 5:58Speaker 1: close it and go to the next thing.
- 6:00Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, some people are not going to agree with this.
- 6:03Speaker 2: I think multitasking is a fallacy. I think it's impossible,
- 6:09Speaker 2: And it depends on the definition of multitasking. Right now,
- 6:13Speaker 2: I am speaking and looking at the camera at the
- 6:15Speaker 2: same time and talking to you and thinking about what
- 6:17Speaker 2: I'm gonna say. Is that multitasking Maybe? But if I'm
- 6:21Speaker 2: trying to do a project here and then another project here,
- 6:25Speaker 2: and then talk to somebody here and then interrupt with
- 6:28Speaker 2: this and then try to exercise in between, that I
- 6:31Speaker 2: know for me, if I'm going to go exercise, I
- 6:33Speaker 2: need to exercise, and if I have my phone out,
- 6:36Speaker 2: I'm not going to get the exercise I came there
- 6:38Speaker 2: to do because I'm distracted by the goal that I had. Now,
- 6:44Speaker 2: can I listen to an audiobook an exercise or a
- 6:47Speaker 2: podcast an exercise? Yeah? And so the way I try
- 6:51Speaker 2: to do it is I compartmentalize and I block out
- 6:54Speaker 2: my day. I'm in a place where I have people
- 6:57Speaker 2: that can help me, and so I'm able to delicate
- 7:00Speaker 2: eat certain tasks, but I'm able to block out the
- 7:02Speaker 2: time necessary for this specific piece. Now, for example, I
- 7:09Speaker 2: am getting out a deal to my investors, and I
- 7:12Speaker 2: knew that today would not be the day I could
- 7:14Speaker 2: get out the deal to my investors because I'm focused
- 7:16Speaker 2: more on content creation. Let's say, so today is more
- 7:19Speaker 2: of the content creation type environment, and so I've blocked
- 7:22Speaker 2: out and I've focused on that content creation. And so
- 7:26Speaker 2: what I have scheduled is on Monday, that is my
- 7:29Speaker 2: day that I'm going to be reaching out and connecting
- 7:31Speaker 2: with those investors who invest alongside with me in influenc VC,
- 7:36Speaker 2: and so I'll get that project done before I move on.
- 7:40Speaker 2: And then Tuesday Wednesday, I'm doing a lot of the
- 7:42Speaker 2: coaching with the business BOOKIEMP dot com. So anyway, it's
- 7:46Speaker 2: a tough question. Some people are going to agree disagree.
- 7:48Speaker 2: I know for me, this is how I've had to
- 7:50Speaker 2: make it work to keep my sanity, to have the
- 7:53Speaker 2: lifestyle that I've wanted. I want to be able to
- 7:58Speaker 2: clock out and the time with my children, have the
- 8:02Speaker 2: family dinner, practice with them their musical instrument or sports
- 8:05Speaker 2: whenever go to the game. And then if I need to,
- 8:08Speaker 2: I can come back to the computer or the phone
- 8:11Speaker 2: after I put those guys to me, And only in
- 8:13Speaker 2: those emergency circumstances and I try to get on a
- 8:17Speaker 2: phone call wild'ing around the kids. I just it's very
- 8:20Speaker 2: rare to try and do that.
- 8:22Speaker 3: And I'm really curious right now.
- 8:25Speaker 1: You to have companies, you have sold companies, you're invested
- 8:29Speaker 1: in companies.
- 8:30Speaker 3: But if we have to go back, how did all
- 8:33Speaker 3: this started?
- 8:36Speaker 2: So I was a college student at BYU, bringing me
- 8:38Speaker 2: Young University, and I had some friends who were importing
- 8:44Speaker 2: office furniture of all things from Taiwan where they had
- 8:48Speaker 2: served their volunteer missions, and they were importing this off
- 8:52Speaker 2: furniture and they approached me and said, we want you
- 8:55Speaker 2: to come and help us with sales. That was the
- 8:57Speaker 2: only life still I had at that time, and so
- 9:00Speaker 2: they allowed me to join as a co founder of
- 9:03Speaker 2: the business. It wasn't my idea. I wasn't the original founders,
- 9:07Speaker 2: but it opened my eyes to entrepreneurship. I didn't have
- 9:11Speaker 2: family members who are entrepreneurs. My dad is a physician,
- 9:14Speaker 2: my brother's a physician, my other brother's an attorney. My sister,
- 9:18Speaker 2: who was more in business, she was going to do
- 9:20Speaker 2: an NBA kind of think. She married a dentist. And
- 9:22Speaker 2: so I had zero entrepreneurs that were influencing me, and
- 9:26Speaker 2: I didn't even know that word. But when I got
- 9:29Speaker 2: involved as a college student, which I think is a
- 9:31Speaker 2: phenomenal time to get involved as entrepreneurship, I was able
- 9:36Speaker 2: to end up selling my ownership to my co founders.
- 9:39Speaker 2: I walked away with a ten x return on my investment,
- 9:43Speaker 2: which was unbelievable. I can't believe that actually happened. Now.
- 9:47Speaker 2: To be clear, the investment that I put into it
- 9:50Speaker 2: was my parents loan. They loaned me five thousand dollars.
- 9:54Speaker 2: I put that into the business. That was part how
- 9:56Speaker 2: I bought my equity, and then I got fifty at
- 10:00Speaker 2: the end, and I paid my parents back plus interest,
- 10:03Speaker 2: which I think they were shocked that they got anything back.
- 10:07Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they thought that was a donation. And
- 10:10Speaker 2: then I was able to move on and I started
- 10:12Speaker 2: my next business just a year and a half later
- 10:15Speaker 2: in two thousand and nine, and then ended up selling
- 10:18Speaker 2: that one in twenty twenty. But the entrepreneurship side was
- 10:21Speaker 2: that fire was sparked inside me at that young age
- 10:24Speaker 2: in college, and I knew that's what I needed to do.
- 10:28Speaker 2: I had plans of going and getting an MBA. That
- 10:31Speaker 2: was the plan, That's the track I was on, and
- 10:34Speaker 2: once I stepped foot into the role of an entrepreneur,
- 10:38Speaker 2: I couldn't go back. I absolutely loved it. And so
- 10:41Speaker 2: people look at me sometimes online like on LinkedIn, They're
- 10:43Speaker 2: going to see that I'm an investor and I've invested
- 10:45Speaker 2: in about thirty companies and a bunch of funds and
- 10:48Speaker 2: all these things, and so sometimes they look at me
- 10:51Speaker 2: as the title as an investor. I'm an entrepreneur through
- 10:55Speaker 2: and through. I've been lucky to be able to invest
- 10:58Speaker 2: in some amazing companies that have done well, and right now,
- 11:02Speaker 2: out of a little under thirty companies, I have five
- 11:05Speaker 2: unicorns in my portfolio, and that's an unbelievable blessing. I
- 11:11Speaker 2: feel like I was lucky to work with these entrepreneurs
- 11:15Speaker 2: and to be able to be involved, and from a
- 11:17Speaker 2: numbers game, those are pretty dang good odds. Most of
- 11:20Speaker 2: the time, angel investors have a hard time making anything
- 11:24Speaker 2: with their investments, let alone having some of that. So
- 11:27Speaker 2: that's been a huge blessing, and it inspires me to
- 11:30Speaker 2: do more and to want to invest in more and
- 11:32Speaker 2: to mentor more and to help people however they can.
- 11:35Speaker 1: How do you generally choose which of the companies that
- 11:38Speaker 1: you believe that they do have a shot.
- 11:41Speaker 2: Whoo, this is the magic question. I wish I could
- 11:46Speaker 2: say all of them were a success. I've lost some
- 11:49Speaker 2: money too, right, And so let me actually do the math,
- 11:53Speaker 2: because I have my little spreadsheet that I keep track
- 11:55Speaker 2: of all these things. Of these I need to remember
- 11:58Speaker 2: if it's twenty eight or twenty nine. Let's say it's
- 12:00Speaker 2: twenty eight of these twenty eight companies that I've invested
- 12:03Speaker 2: in individually. So I have funds that have invested in
- 12:07Speaker 2: twenty companies with my money or whatever, and so I'm
- 12:10Speaker 2: spread over maybe one hundred and fifty companies or something
- 12:14Speaker 2: because of the funds I'm involved in. But my specific
- 12:18Speaker 2: personal investments. Out of those twenty eight companies, I've lost
- 12:22Speaker 2: four so far, and so four of them have they're
- 12:26Speaker 2: dead right. Five of them are unicorns, meaning they have
- 12:31Speaker 2: higher than a billion dollar valuation, and then a bunch
- 12:34Speaker 2: that are still in the process of growing. Now some
- 12:36Speaker 2: are going to fail. That's just part of the plan, right,
- 12:40Speaker 2: and you won't get anything back. But number one, I
- 12:43Speaker 2: live for people. People is who I bet on. That's
- 12:46Speaker 2: the number one thing. When I saw for example, Taurus,
- 12:49Speaker 2: Taurus has been on the Time magazine is one of
- 12:51Speaker 2: the most innovative companies. They're soaring their revenue numbers and
- 12:55Speaker 2: their valuation is their unicorn on a multiple what I
- 13:02Speaker 2: saw them early on. The reason why I got so
- 13:04Speaker 2: interested was because I really liked the founders. And so
- 13:09Speaker 2: what's funny is I reached out to the founders and said, hey,
- 13:12Speaker 2: I love you guys. I've seen what you've done in
- 13:15Speaker 2: the past. I would love to invest in what you
- 13:17Speaker 2: guys are doing now. Well, they didn't need my money.
- 13:20Speaker 2: They didn't need it at the time, and so I'm
- 13:23Speaker 2: like begging them to let me give them money. They
- 13:26Speaker 2: didn't need my money, and at the time they didn't
- 13:29Speaker 2: take it. And I'm so frustrated because what I didn't
- 13:34Speaker 2: need a chance to invest they were at ten times
- 13:37Speaker 2: the valuation that they were, or maybe a little less,
- 13:40Speaker 2: maybe five times evaluation that what I wanted to get
- 13:43Speaker 2: in it was Number one, as the founders who they are,
- 13:47Speaker 2: what is their integrity like, what is their work ethic like?
- 13:51Speaker 2: How do they respond and talk to people? How do
- 13:53Speaker 2: they manage and work with people? And then number two,
- 13:56Speaker 2: I always want to make sure if it's if I'm
- 13:57Speaker 2: writing a check, I needed to be a venture backable business.
- 14:01Speaker 2: In most scenarios, a window washing company that's doing the
- 14:04Speaker 2: neighborhoods around town is not a venture backable business because
- 14:08Speaker 2: venture backable business means that I'm seeking a ten times return.
- 14:12Speaker 2: If I give someone one hundred grand, I expect and
- 14:14Speaker 2: hope that I will get a million dollars back. And
- 14:18Speaker 2: unless they become a national, nationwide window washing company, that's
- 14:22Speaker 2: not going to be a venture backable business. And so
- 14:24Speaker 2: when people approach me and they haven't really done the
- 14:27Speaker 2: investor thing before, I want them to realize that you
- 14:30Speaker 2: need to have a business that has a large enough
- 14:32Speaker 2: market that when you do go to market, you can
- 14:36Speaker 2: scale from whatever it is a million dollars your revenue
- 14:40Speaker 2: to one hundred million dollars revenue. Can you scale and
- 14:43Speaker 2: grow the business at that size? Otherwise you may not
- 14:47Speaker 2: be a venture backable business. Now, it doesn't mean that
- 14:49Speaker 2: there's anything wrong with being a lifestyle business. And when
- 14:55Speaker 2: I'm mentoring entrepreneurs, especially first time entrepreneurs, I want them
- 14:59Speaker 2: to start with a lot lifestyle business because I want
- 15:01Speaker 2: them to learn the ins and outs of how a
- 15:03Speaker 2: business works. I suggest early stage entrepreneurs starts with something simple,
- 15:09Speaker 2: something that's service oriented, service based business that can be profitable,
- 15:13Speaker 2: and that doesn't cost you a ton to get started.
- 15:15Speaker 2: Because if you'd have a success early on, then you
- 15:18Speaker 2: can start looking into more complicated businesses and you can
- 15:22Speaker 2: start doing things that leverage investor dollars or debt or
- 15:25Speaker 2: things like that. But I out the gate. I think
- 15:27Speaker 2: it's a lot easier to start simple, have some wins,
- 15:30Speaker 2: and then move on from there.
- 15:32Speaker 1: It is really great that you mentioned more than once
- 15:35Speaker 1: that the most important thing is people. How can you
- 15:39Speaker 1: choose or which are the trades that you're looking in
- 15:42Speaker 1: a person to actually say that's the right fit, that's
- 15:46Speaker 1: the right person, that's a person that I can trust.
- 15:49Speaker 2: One hundred percent. So integrity for me is number one.
- 15:53Speaker 2: I want to make sure that when the person says
- 15:54Speaker 2: they're going to do something, they do it. And number
- 15:58Speaker 2: two for me is accountability. It goes along the lines
- 16:01Speaker 2: with integrity too. When you make a mistake, own it.
- 16:06Speaker 2: Own the mistake, don't hide it, don't try to keep
- 16:09Speaker 2: it secret, but own it. And so when I think
- 16:13Speaker 2: about integrity, and this is when if people pitch me
- 16:16Speaker 2: for me to invest, I need them to know that
- 16:19Speaker 2: I'm most likely not going to write them a check
- 16:21Speaker 2: on that first phone call. That's just not how relationships work.
- 16:26Speaker 2: It's as if we're getting married in a business sense, right,
- 16:29Speaker 2: I am now giving you my heart earned money and
- 16:32Speaker 2: banking that you're going to return it back to me tenfold.
- 16:36Speaker 2: I need to get to know who you are, what
- 16:38Speaker 2: kind of a person are you? What do other people
- 16:40Speaker 2: think about you? How have you proven that you know
- 16:43Speaker 2: how to do this type of thing you're promising that
- 16:46Speaker 2: you can do. And so when they get on a
- 16:48Speaker 2: phone call with me, sometimes people are shocked when I say, hey,
- 16:51Speaker 2: the business looks great. I'd love to get to know
- 16:53Speaker 2: you for a little while, and they look at me
- 16:55Speaker 2: kind of confused, aren't you just going to give me
- 16:57Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars? And I'm like, no, no, I'm not.
- 17:00Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch. I want to watch. So you've told
- 17:04Speaker 2: me what you're going to do over the next X
- 17:06Speaker 2: amount of time. Right, I'm gonna sit back and I'm
- 17:09Speaker 2: gonna watch, and I want you to see if you
- 17:11Speaker 2: can do what you said you're started going to do.
- 17:14Speaker 2: And I would love for you to give me an update,
- 17:16Speaker 2: whether it's monthly, every six day, weeks, whatever it is,
- 17:19Speaker 2: and you give me the good, the bad, and the ugly.
- 17:21Speaker 2: I want to hear all of it. I don't want
- 17:22Speaker 2: to hear just the sugar coating of it. I want
- 17:24Speaker 2: to see. So the deal I'm doing right now with
- 17:27Speaker 2: Influence WC, I met with them over ten months ago,
- 17:33Speaker 2: and I've been watching, watching and meeting with them and
- 17:36Speaker 2: talking with them and getting updates, watching to see if
- 17:39Speaker 2: they can do what they say they've been doing. When
- 17:42Speaker 2: they finally launched and they started generating revenue, I was
- 17:45Speaker 2: watching closely. And the wonderful part about it is they've
- 17:50Speaker 2: actually done what they said they were gonna do, even
- 17:52Speaker 2: more than I expected. And so now it's a no
- 17:56Speaker 2: brainer for me to want to write a check and
- 17:58Speaker 2: get them, get them and my other friends and investors involved,
- 18:02Speaker 2: because I have a much higher confidence rate with someone
- 18:07Speaker 2: that I've been able to get to know and see.
- 18:09Speaker 2: So I do love to invest in people I know,
- 18:11Speaker 2: love and trust. That's the easiest way. I'll give you
- 18:14Speaker 2: an example. I invest in in a Marco Polo competitor
- 18:19Speaker 2: with a friend of mine that I just loved dearly.
- 18:22Speaker 2: And the business was going and growing and I loved
- 18:24Speaker 2: the product. It was awesome. But in the end it
- 18:27Speaker 2: didn't pan out and I lost my fifty thousand dollars. Now,
- 18:30Speaker 2: I remember talking to that entrepreneur, a good friend of mine,
- 18:34Speaker 2: and I said, look, I know it's not you. You
- 18:36Speaker 2: didn't do anything illegal, you did nothing against your integrity.
- 18:39Speaker 2: Sometimes businesses just don't work out, and I understand some.
- 18:43Speaker 2: I've had mine that I've had to shut down. But
- 18:46Speaker 2: I said, the next time you do something, I want
- 18:48Speaker 2: to invest in you because I love you as a
- 18:51Speaker 2: human and I believe in you as a person. So
- 18:55Speaker 2: this was a tech business that I invested in prior.
- 18:58Speaker 2: He went from being a tech on entrepreneur multiple times
- 19:02Speaker 2: to being a consumer product company. And it's called Josh's Pickles.
- 19:06Speaker 2: And I love him to death. And I was one
- 19:09Speaker 2: of his very first checks to support him in his
- 19:12Speaker 2: pickle company. And you know what's wild to me. Number One,
- 19:16Speaker 2: people either love or hate pickles. Right, So it's fascinating.
- 19:20Speaker 2: But he started to take off on TikTok. The market
- 19:24Speaker 2: for pickles is massive and so because it's pickles all
- 19:27Speaker 2: over the world and there's only a few key competitors
- 19:30Speaker 2: out there. So he created this product. It's like fifth
- 19:34Speaker 2: generation Bridmaster from his ancestors, and he's had this he's
- 19:37Speaker 2: always loved doing pickles. But I invested in him because
- 19:40Speaker 2: I know love and I trust him. Even though the
- 19:43Speaker 2: other one didn't work and I lost money there, I
- 19:46Speaker 2: still took a bat and I invested here and it's
- 19:48Speaker 2: killing it. He's in retail stores now, he's getting accepted
- 19:52Speaker 2: into some of the big box retailers. Very soon you'll
- 19:56Speaker 2: be able to find Josh's pickles all over the country.
- 19:59Speaker 2: And I'm so happy to be a part of it,
- 20:01Speaker 2: even though it wasn't what I normally had invested in.
- 20:03Speaker 3: You know, what a great story. What a great story.
- 20:08Speaker 1: And Baba, we're always closing the podcast with one question.
- 20:13Speaker 1: So if you could go back and change just one thing.
- 20:16Speaker 1: It could be a decision that you made, It could
- 20:19Speaker 1: be a mindset, it could be something that you wish
- 20:23Speaker 1: that you would have known.
- 20:24Speaker 3: What would it be and.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Why, oh oh.
- 20:29Speaker 2: My gosh, there's so many I could write a book
- 20:31Speaker 2: on how many things I wish I would have known.
- 20:32Speaker 2: One of the things I wish I would have known
- 20:34Speaker 2: as a young entrepreneur is where my priorities are is
- 20:39Speaker 2: what matters. Where I focus my attention is where I
- 20:44Speaker 2: will have success. I early on in my career, I
- 20:49Speaker 2: don't believe I had the best priorities. I was confused
- 20:53Speaker 2: to think that making money was the ultimate priority, and
- 20:58Speaker 2: that's what my job was as a husband and as
- 21:01Speaker 2: a father, was to be the provider. Now I believe
- 21:05Speaker 2: that I should be the provider, truly believe that. But
- 21:08Speaker 2: I started putting some of the most important things in
- 21:11Speaker 2: my life not in the correct focus, and so my maker,
- 21:17Speaker 2: my God. Although I would keep communication, it was not
- 21:22Speaker 2: as intentional my spouse, although loved her dearly loved her children.
- 21:30Speaker 2: I worked a lot, and I put that focus on
- 21:33Speaker 2: being the provider and not the presider in the home,
- 21:39Speaker 2: and early on I didn't realize some of those mistakes
- 21:44Speaker 2: that I wish I would have and that I would
- 21:45Speaker 2: have prioritized. Even my health. I was not as healthy
- 21:50Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form early on in my
- 21:52Speaker 2: career because I was just work, Go, Go, Go build,
- 21:55Speaker 2: Bill build, thinking that sacrifice was going to bring the
- 22:03Speaker 2: pile of gold at the end of the rainbow. And
- 22:07Speaker 2: although it did bring financial success, I felt like I
- 22:13Speaker 2: lost some of the pieces that I wish I would
- 22:15Speaker 2: have had. And life is complicated and we learn things
- 22:20Speaker 2: as we go along. But I know, for example, those
- 22:23Speaker 2: first five to ten years of my career, I wish
- 22:26Speaker 2: I could have gone back and said, Okay, God You're
- 22:28Speaker 2: number one no matter what, because I can't take any
- 22:32Speaker 2: of these worldly possessions with me when I die, so
- 22:36Speaker 2: I need to put God number one and allow him
- 22:38Speaker 2: to guide my life and be the focal point. And
- 22:44Speaker 2: in a relationship, I believe if you put God first
- 22:46Speaker 2: and both spouses look to God as the primary source
- 22:51Speaker 2: of truth, that closer you get to God, this triangle
- 22:56Speaker 2: with God at the top, the closer you are as
- 22:58Speaker 2: a couple. I believe in that, and that's something I
- 23:02Speaker 2: wish I would have focused on with my children. I
- 23:05Speaker 2: have always been an engaged father, but I worked a lot,
- 23:09Speaker 2: and I was even gone for a few months for
- 23:12Speaker 2: a business opportunity, and that put a lot of strain
- 23:17Speaker 2: on my wife, on her and our relationship. It was
- 23:20Speaker 2: really hard. And I looked back and it was a
- 23:23Speaker 2: business opportunity that we had agreed upon as a couple.
- 23:25Speaker 2: That's something that I would do. But I look back
- 23:27Speaker 2: and I wonder, you know what damage did that cause?
- 23:32Speaker 2: And everything happens for reasons, and I know God's involved
- 23:37Speaker 2: in every detail of our lives. But if I could
- 23:39Speaker 2: look back, and if I'm talking to myself twenty years ago,
- 23:42Speaker 2: I would say, Bubba, put the right priority on the
- 23:46Speaker 2: things that matter most, and then fill your calendar appropriately
- 23:51Speaker 2: with boulders the most important things locked in. Then stones
- 23:57Speaker 2: put in there, and then pebbles, and then say and
- 24:00Speaker 2: then water. You've heard maybe that metaphor before. Yeah, And
- 24:05Speaker 2: if you get those boulders locked in and you make
- 24:08Speaker 2: sure that those are those priorities, you may not become
- 24:11Speaker 2: the next Elon Musk. You may not become the next
- 24:14Speaker 2: Jeff Bezos. And to me, that's okay because the life
- 24:19Speaker 2: that you're building you can impact millions of lives or
- 24:24Speaker 2: even the life of just you and your family, And
- 24:27Speaker 2: in God's eyes, that's incredible that you prioritize that piece
- 24:32Speaker 2: first and look and if God has bigger things for
- 24:34Speaker 2: you to do, hear him first. So you got to
- 24:37Speaker 2: put him there to be able to hear what he
- 24:39Speaker 2: has for you. But anyway, I know people will not
- 24:41Speaker 2: agree with this, and that some will say, look, in
- 24:44Speaker 2: order to do anything big, you have to sacrifice, and
- 24:47Speaker 2: there is reality in that, and so you have to
- 24:49Speaker 2: pick what are you going to sacrifice, and hopefully you've
- 24:51Speaker 2: put those things in order.
- 24:53Speaker 1: There should always be a balance between what you're going
- 24:59Speaker 1: to choose and what then you will get at the
- 25:02Speaker 1: end of the day. But it seems that it turns
- 25:05Speaker 1: out pretty well for you and Baback. First, thank you
- 25:10Speaker 1: so much for being on Behind Numbers. It was a
- 25:13Speaker 1: pleasure to actually have you.
- 25:16Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. If anybody wants to reach out,
- 25:18Speaker 2: please find me on LinkedIn. There's not too many Bubba pages.
- 25:21Speaker 2: If you're on Instagram, I'm fairly active on Instagram, so
- 25:24Speaker 2: you can find me at bubble page. So happy to
- 25:27Speaker 2: connect with anybody in it's here that we can see
- 25:29Speaker 2: if I can help it anyway.
- 25:31Speaker 1: Fantastic, fantastic, And for everyone listening, thank you so much
- 25:36Speaker 1: for joining us. If you've enjoyed today's conversation, don't forget
- 25:40Speaker 1: to follow Behind Numbers for more stories from leaders that
- 25:43Speaker 1: shape the future of business and finance. I am Alessandra
- 25:47Speaker 1: COTTI thank you and see you next time.