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Todd Gurley Opens Up About the Real Reason He Accepted Trump's Invitation · Get TO The Point

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  Speaker 1: That is not H & M.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah it is.
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  Speaker 3: Bro, I go in there from time to time. I'll
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  Speaker 3: pop in there.
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  Speaker 1: We need a sponsor. H & M.
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  Speaker 2: It's so funny. I'll go in there and people will
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  Speaker 2: do double takes because they'll be like, they'll see me.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm in there going through the rack.
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  Speaker 1: No, I know a lot of people come up in
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  Speaker 1: H & M.
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  Speaker 4: They go to Zara. My wife be killing at Zara.
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  Speaker 2: Bro, it's all about if you got some style, you
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  Speaker 2: can go in there and put some stuff together. Because
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  Speaker 2: I've walked into places and people are like, dude, what
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  Speaker 2: are you doing? Yeah, my boy Tao, he'd be like, bro,
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  Speaker 2: where you get that? He's like, that's a nice shirt.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, H & M, dog?
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I've had some $ 1, 500, $ 2, 000 suits. I've had
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  Speaker 2: some tailors. No, I don't go that far.
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  Speaker 5: You've had suits that cost $ 1, 000 to $ 2, 000?
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  Speaker 2: No more than $ 3, 000. No, never.
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  Speaker 1: Terrell or Monte Owens?
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  Speaker 2: No, sir. No, sir.
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  Speaker 3: No, sir.
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  Speaker 1: You don't think you've paid more than $ 2, 000 for a suit?
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  Speaker 2: I said, no more. I don't think I've ever paid
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  Speaker 2: no more than three grand for a suit.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, three grand maybe.
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  Speaker 2: And that's a stretch, bro. I don't, that's too much. Like,
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  Speaker 2: that is too much.
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  Speaker 1: No, I just remember there was a time in L.A.
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  Speaker 5: When it was like all these different black, yes, all
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  Speaker 5: these dudes were making suits, L.A.V., Dion, Reggie Jenkins.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. My boy, Wayne Weezy out of Atlanta. Yeah. Man,
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  Speaker 2: some of everybody.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so I was just saying, I thought those suits
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  Speaker 5: were always, because whenever I talked to them, they was,
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  Speaker 5: and I would go.
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  Speaker 3: Then I would get little discounts too because I would introduce.
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  Speaker 2: There we go. I would introduce them. Guess what we
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  Speaker 2: just did, ladies and gentlemen?
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: We got a big guest today.
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  Speaker 2: And speaking of topics.
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  Speaker 1: Big guest.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, look right there.
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  Speaker 2: Todd Gurley.
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  Speaker 3: Todd Gurley is in the building.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, sir?
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  Speaker 4: What's going on, fellas? How y'all doing today?
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  Speaker 1: Incredible, man.
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  Speaker 2: Glad to have you here, man. Hey, let me say this.
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  Speaker 2: People always tell me when they see me, they're like, man, bro,
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  Speaker 2: you look like you can get out there tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: That's the first thing I said when I saw him.
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  Speaker 2: Hey.
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  Speaker 4: Just try to keep yourself in good shape, man.
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  Speaker 1: Rams couldn't use a running back.
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  Speaker 4: They could use a lot of things. Running back is
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  Speaker 4: definitely not their problem.
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  Speaker 1: Well, where's Kyron?
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  Speaker 6: They like to take him out. They like to take
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  Speaker 6: him out. But Corham, rightfully so, he be doing his
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  Speaker 6: thing as well, too.
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  Speaker 4: But Kyron, he nice, man.
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  Speaker 1: You hear what he said last week?
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  Speaker 2: Why they lost?
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  Speaker 4: It was misinterpreted the wrong way.
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  Speaker 1: It was misinterpreted. He said, what's going on out there?
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't in the game.
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  Speaker 3: But you say he's nice, though.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Kyron's nice. But he's, He's been having incredible games.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: And he got the hot hand. I don't really like when,
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  Speaker 4: you know, coaches do the hot, you know, take out
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  Speaker 4: the hot hand.
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  Speaker 2: Why do they do that? That was my point. Like,
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  Speaker 2: you being a running back. But, yeah, but I've had
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  Speaker 2: this issue when I play, too. It's like when you're
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  Speaker 2: in a rhythm, nobody can stop you. Like, why not? Like,
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  Speaker 2: y'all doing this. Keep feeding me. Keep feeding me.
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  Speaker 3: Why do you think that is?
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  Speaker 6: You want to get your guy in to make sure
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  Speaker 6: you look right on the other side as well, too.
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  Speaker 4: So when you've got a draftee.
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  Speaker 6: That you picked, then you're like, you know, you don't
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  Speaker 6: want to say, like, what the hell did we even
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  Speaker 6: draft this guy for if we're not going to ever
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  Speaker 6: put him in? And I get the situation, too, where
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  Speaker 6: it's like, you know you want to save that back,
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  Speaker 6: but all right, that's something you come into the season,
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  Speaker 6: sit the guys down, and let them know, hey, this
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  Speaker 6: is how I want this rotation to be.
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  Speaker 3: So they may have an understanding of why they're in
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  Speaker 3: and out.
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  Speaker 4: That way you know.
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  Speaker 6: Obviously, you draft a guy in Blake Corham, you, from
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  Speaker 6: a Kyron perspective, you already kind of know what it is, right? Like,
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  Speaker 6: all right, seen this before. They're going to try to
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  Speaker 6: draft the same type of style running back and get
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  Speaker 6: me out. Or that might not be the case as well.
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  Speaker 6: But I feel like if coaches can just sit down,
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  Speaker 6: maybe they have, maybe they haven't.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. But from the comments, it doesn't seem
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  Speaker 4: like that, right?
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  Speaker 1: Another reason I hear it.
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  Speaker 5: People want to say that this sudden shakeup of losing
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  Speaker 5: is the Australia trip. A lot of people are blaming
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  Speaker 5: that as the little pinpoint when all this started to happen.
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  Speaker 4: Like that's all started?
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  Speaker 1: That's what I read. That's what they say at my barbershop.
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  Speaker 4: You know, people just be saying anything.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But it does seem like it started around then, right?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, San Fran's still undefeated with their 6-0.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but didn't they go and they had like a fight?
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  Speaker 2: They went a week late. I mean, they went a
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  Speaker 2: week earlier.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they went a week earlier. I was out there.
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  Speaker 1: The Rams was there, landed at the airport, and went
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  Speaker 1: straight to the field.
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  Speaker 4: They ain't bounced back since, huh?
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  Speaker 1: They still got jet lag.
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  Speaker 6: They not finishing, though, bro. Like the games that, because
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  Speaker 6: you look at the three or four games they lost,
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  Speaker 6: it's like very marginal. And they not finishing the games
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  Speaker 6: that they usually finish.
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  Speaker 2: So what do you feel like that, is contributed to
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  Speaker 2: or attributed to. Because if we as athletes, yeah, we
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  Speaker 2: practice finishing games. Those are things that we work on
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  Speaker 2: throughout the course of the week. Early part of the week,
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  Speaker 2: you work on your third downs.
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  Speaker 1: Define what that means, finishing games in a practice.
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  Speaker 2: Executing the plays.
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  Speaker 3: Finishing plays, like no mistakes, no like jumping off sides.
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  Speaker 4: Going through certain situations. Like you're down three.
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  Speaker 2: Got you.
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  Speaker 3: Clock, management, things of that nature.
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  Speaker 2: Like situational football. Like there's so many. So the coach
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  Speaker 2: may put you in those type of situations. So it
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  Speaker 2: may come up in the game. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: So again, at the end of the day, There's one
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  Speaker 3: real reason you can't win games.
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  Speaker 2: That's turnovers. You want to take care of the football.
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  Speaker 2: That's where you're airing the ball out. Or as receivers,
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  Speaker 2: running backs, we're taking care of the football.
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  Speaker 4: Right. Penalties.
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  Speaker 2: And the other things are penalties. Those are mental things. Self-inflicted. Exactly, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Those are things that prevent you from progressing, and it'll
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  Speaker 2: stall drives. And that's like, those things start in really
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  Speaker 2: high school and college, like the mental aspect of knowing
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  Speaker 2: the down and this and that. Hiking the ball on three,
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  Speaker 2: like the counts on three or two, trying to get
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  Speaker 2: the defense to jump offside.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy because we practice.
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  Speaker 2: Those things all throughout the course of the week, knowing
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  Speaker 2: that we may do it, and then we do it
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  Speaker 2: in the game, but then we can jump offside.
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  Speaker 4: You'd be like, oh.
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  Speaker 1: Practicing game is two different things, correct?
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  Speaker 6: Yes and no because, you know, practice should almost be
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  Speaker 6: harder than the game to where it's like clockwork.
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  Speaker 4: And football is one of them sports where you practice
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  Speaker 4: way more times than you play.
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  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying? It gets boring because you're
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  Speaker 6: practicing the same old stuff, but you've got to fall
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  Speaker 6: in love with that boring process. So always easier said
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  Speaker 6: than done. And it's always one of those situations where
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  Speaker 6: it's like act like you've been there before. Sometimes people have,
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  Speaker 6: sometimes people haven't. But I think it's definitely a little
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  Speaker 6: bit of coaching. But then also, you know, you've been
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  Speaker 6: having some penalty calls as well too. But, you know,
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  Speaker 6: as coaches always say, let's not let these guys in
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  Speaker 6: black and white determine the outcome of the game.
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  Speaker 4: Right, right.
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  Speaker 1: You miss it?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, no, no. I like being a fan. I like
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  Speaker 4: being a fan.
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  Speaker 2: You don't miss it?
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  Speaker 4: Mm-mm, no.
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  Speaker 2: Not a lick?
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  Speaker 4: Mm-mm, no.
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  Speaker 5: You know when I talk to people, and maybe it's
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  Speaker 5: different in your situation, they say they don't miss the
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  Speaker 5: game or the practice, but they miss the guys.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, they're cool, but we're all in different stages
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  Speaker 6: of our life as well, too, right? Like, you know,
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  Speaker 6: obviously I was 20, 25, 32 now.
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  Speaker 2: Right, right.
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  Speaker 6: I wouldn't even probably be, I probably still would, but
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  Speaker 6: I probably wouldn't have the same conversations that I was
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  Speaker 6: having in the locker room at my early 20s.
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  Speaker 3: So do you watch a lot of football?
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  Speaker 4: I still watch it, yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: So you're telling me you don't ever watch and think,
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  Speaker 2: I could still help them.
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  Speaker 4: Nah, I watch the game now and be like, what
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  Speaker 4: the hell was I thinking? Being out there, getting hit
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  Speaker 4: like that.
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 4: I'd be like, hell yeah. I'd be like, boy, you
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  Speaker 4: is crazy. I'd be almost thanking, you know, thanking a man.
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  Speaker 6: I do be thanking a man upstairs that, thankfully and gratefully,
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  Speaker 6: I was able to get out when I was able
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  Speaker 6: to get out, though, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Man, let me tell you this. Give me about three
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  Speaker 2: or four weeks. If Sean McVay said, be ready for
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  Speaker 2: the playoff, give me three or four weeks. Hey, get
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  Speaker 2: to the point, I'm shutting it down.
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  Speaker 4: My body will be shutting down.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, get to the point.
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  Speaker 1: I'm shutting it down.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe in his position, that's not one of those positions
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  Speaker 5: where you want to hurry up and get back to playing.
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  Speaker 1: Because I think he's getting hit more than you.
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  Speaker 6: It's not that, too. It's like, I mean, you run
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  Speaker 6: a route, you're going to run a good route. Like,
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  Speaker 6: everything determines how my whole line blocks.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: The play call and the schemes.
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  Speaker 2: Everything.
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  Speaker 4: All of that. Now, maybe I can get you, you know,
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  Speaker 4: one yard. Right. Right.
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  Speaker 6: I don't want to see how I feel to get
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  Speaker 6: that one yard either.
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  Speaker 1: Really? Which position probably gets the most CTE situations?
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  Speaker 4: I would say O-line, D-tackle.
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  Speaker 1: Because they hit tight ends. Every play.
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  Speaker 4: The tight ends. Definitely running back, too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking of running back.
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  Speaker 4: What you said, the what? They get the what?
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  Speaker 1: What did I say?
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  Speaker 4: What was your question? What position has the most CTE?
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  Speaker 2: Situations, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Situations.
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  Speaker 6: Shit, I mean, special teams, guys. I don't know about
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  Speaker 6: the new special teams.
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  Speaker 2: But special teams.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I hate that, by the way.
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  Speaker 4: You do?
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  Speaker 1: What? The new special teams where they, like, kick the ball.
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  Speaker 4: And they just stand there.
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  Speaker 2: It reminds me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it reminds me. Till they catch the ball. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how old you are. But when we were kids.
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  Speaker 2: I'm 52. A young 52. Where's the camera?
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  Speaker 1: The camera's supposed to be on you.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: You remember we used to have the magnet, and they go, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That shit reminds me of.
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  Speaker 2: Did you have that? Yeah, I remember that game. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's really old school.
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  Speaker 1: That was like.
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  Speaker 2: I was like young, I was like three or four,
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  Speaker 2: about five or six or something when I saw those.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a major team.
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  Speaker 6: It's a short running back though. It's a collision every play. Well,
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  Speaker 6: if you get in the ball.
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  Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: I can see a running back not wanting to be
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  Speaker 5: in a hurry to say, I missed the game, I
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  Speaker 5: want to go back.
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  Speaker 1: I can see a receiver like you. You're still almost
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  Speaker 1: as fast as you were when you retired. You're going
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  Speaker 1: to do some glorious shit. You still got hops.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can still catch a back shoulder fade. I
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  Speaker 2: can run a slant. I try to tell people and
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  Speaker 2: explain third down, like situational football, especially red zone. Honestly,
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  Speaker 2: it's 20, 30 yards of really running or less than that.
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  Speaker 2: And then when people say that I can play, when
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  Speaker 2: I say that, they automatically, I guess, in their minds,
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  Speaker 2: they envision me going across the middle of Like every play.
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  Speaker 2: Every play, no, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, that's not good. He can still get
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  Speaker 4: 30 snaps.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I seen it five years ago in the
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  Speaker 6: FCF league. You was getting after them boys.
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  Speaker 2: So it's just like, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Very impressive, though.
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  Speaker 2: It's not that hard.
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  Speaker 4: And it's up here, too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, knowledge of the game, too, bro. So, yeah, he
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  Speaker 2: said he can't imagine himself out there.
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  Speaker 1: And I understand.
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  Speaker 6: And I'm sure you see it every week with just
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  Speaker 6: the terrible play call and just the terrible situation awareness.
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  Speaker 2: I was watching the game with my son.
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  Speaker 4: Can't believe this shit.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he was with the Niners the last two
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  Speaker 2: years on practice squad. We were watching the game Mike
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  Speaker 2: was playing, Mike Evans, and I was like, look at
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  Speaker 2: his routes. I'm like, I can do that. It's not
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  Speaker 2: like he's blazing speed. He just knows how to run routes,
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  Speaker 2: knows where to go, and then the quarterback can save you. Like,
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  Speaker 2: he was just catching, like, some really, like, average, like, plays.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, he's killing it. But he ran straight.
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  Speaker 2: But he was putting up numbers, though.
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  Speaker 4: No, he's having damn near one of his best years.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, he was balling.
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  Speaker 1: And he's saying you can do that.
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  Speaker 3: Bro, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 6: Because he has done it, and he knows the level
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  Speaker 6: of what it takes to, though.
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  Speaker 2: So, you say you would never do it. What was
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  Speaker 2: your first memory of football, or your first introduction to
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  Speaker 2: football to get to the point to like now you
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  Speaker 2: like I don't even I'm looking at myself like why
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  Speaker 2: was I.
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  Speaker 6: Doing it my first introduction damn that's a good good
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  Speaker 6: question I think just being um growing up.
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  Speaker 4: And um what we just used to call it like
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  Speaker 4: throw up tackle.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah throw up get tackled yeah.
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  Speaker 6: But being a youngin and seeing it with the older
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  Speaker 6: cats and you like oh I want to get in
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  Speaker 6: on this and then you know you want to get
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  Speaker 6: in and they like nah you too young so you
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  Speaker 6: know you got all that built up anger in you
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  Speaker 6: until you get that Right.
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  Speaker 4: You get that chance to play with the young guys.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the older guys. Right.
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  Speaker 1: And then when they start complimenting you, you're like.
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: Because you've got to have a mentality to play running back,
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  Speaker 2: to play that position. Because it looks glorious when these
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: guys making people miss. Usually in high school, it's 26.
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: 27th sweet, 28th sweet.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: We love it. Right, it's tall.
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: That's what they do in high school, yeah.
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: And they just use their speed to get outside.
• 13:49
  Speaker 6: I didn't play running back until my sophomore year in
• 13:51
  Speaker 6: high school, though. So I just always played, you know,
• 13:54
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  Speaker 2: crown is yours. Did you have Pop Warner in North Carolina?
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: Pop Warner.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: That's what we call it.
• 15:24
  Speaker 6: I grew up in, originally, so I first started playing
• 15:27
  Speaker 6: in Baltimore. It was Pop Warner because they don't even
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: have their first ball. It's high school ball.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: There's no grass in Baltimore.
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: It is. It is.
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: It's not New York-ish, but it's definitely places from between
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: the city and the county.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: It's still Maryland.
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: It's still Maryland, yeah. But yeah, it's Pop Warner. Yeah,
• 15:45
  Speaker 6: I played Pop Warner. I got my Pop Warner card,
• 15:46
  Speaker 6: like the... The little turning card. Well, I got a
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: picture of it. Yeah, I got a picture of it, but...
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: Were you always good, or did you... Like, he tells me,
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: and I guess I have to believe him, that he
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: was a late bloomer, right? Were you that guy, as
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: a kid, they go, that little motherfucker gonna be a pro?
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: Yes and no. Like, from a defensive standpoint, it was like, hey,
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: who is you? You know, like, okay, but.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: Most of the time you get to showcase that on offense.
• 16:13
  Speaker 6: So I feel like that's where they like, oh, this motherfucker,
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: he's going to be nice. But I was definitely a
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: late bloomer, even from speed-wise and all that stuff.
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: But by your senior year, if you didn't go to Georgia,
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: who else was recruiting you?
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: You've got to be doing something.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: No, I was doing good. But to that story as well, always....
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: Like, I've told this story plenty of times, but my
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: good friend, we went to Georgia together, but Keith Marshall,
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: he was the number one running back in North Carolina
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: at the time. So, thankfully, I grew up in North
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: Carolina pretty much late elementary, middle school, and high school.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: Pretty much coaches used to go see him, and then
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: they used to be like, you need to go see
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: that guy Todd down the street. So that's kind of
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: how I got, like, you know, my notoriety.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: So to go from North Carolina, because, you know, North
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Carolina's basketball city.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Definitely basketball.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: How in the hell did you get to Georgia? And obviously,
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: like I said, like they told everybody to go down
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: the street and see this guy. I know. What's his name? Kevin?
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Keith.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Keith Marshall was like, and that's kind of like how
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I got discovered on my high school team. They were recruiting,
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: UT Chattanooga was recruiting Derek Hall and then it was like,
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Who was that?
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: This guy right here. I made a few plays here
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: and there. But like I said, we were on the
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: same team, but to have two top, like, running backs?
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Were you guys rivals? Obviously, you guys knew each other.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Was there some sort of, like, friendly competition? And then
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: you get to Georgia.
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, honestly, yeah, we, this was the beginning of Wi-Fi,
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: you know. You know, after AOL and stuff like that. So,
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: you know, that part was, yeah, the internet. It was accessible.
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: You know, you was able to, you know, the beginning
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: of social media and all that stuff, so.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: Definitely knew of each other.
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: And then I feel like we met at like a
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: UNC game or something like that. And then he was
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: already getting pretty much getting recruited. I mean, he was
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: getting recruited since the ninth grade, you know. But we
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: ran track together too.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: So that's kind of how we kind of really, you know,
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: became friends.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Was he faster than you?
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was always faster than me.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: So he was the guy you would go, he ain't
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: going to make it.
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they were saying that at probably like seventh grade.
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: But he was always fast. I've never seen a guy
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: tear ACL or have knee surgery and then just still
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: fast like every single time.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Damn. So what ever happened to Keith?
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: The knees. The knees. Yeah. He ended up getting drafted, though.
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: He got drafted by Washington, the Redskins, the Commanders now. But,
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: you know, they had a terrible situation going on with
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: them for a quite a while. I remember everybody was
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: getting hurt over there for years to come.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Kind of like the Niners.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: Just bad on the ship just going on, yeah.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Like the Niners, I mean, luckily they're riding their ship
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: and they're winning football because otherwise they'd be talking about,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: you know, all the electricity and stuff that they got
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: going on.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: We had a good freshman year at Georgia. We was
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: like a good, you know, one-two combo.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: One-two punch, yeah.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: And then after that he kind of, you know, dealt
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: with a bunch of injuries.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: It gets to everyone eventually, but sometimes people are earlier
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: than others for sure.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: But that's still my man to this day, though. Yeah? Yeah.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: So you go to Georgia.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: There's been a number of great running backs to come
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: out of Georgia. Obviously, namely yourself, Herschel Walker. I played
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: with a guy in San Francisco in Garrison Hurst. And
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: there are some other running backs.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Moshe Marino, Caleb King.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: So, yeah, when I got there, so they had. Obviously, Keith,
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: who was the number one in high school. And then
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: the year before that, they had the number one guy
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: as well. And Isaiah Crowell, he was from South Georgia.
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: And something ended up, you know, happening. He ended up
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: getting kicked off the team. So that automatically bumped, you know, everybody.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: A spot up.
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: I don't know what, you know, just for content purposes.
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: I started off like number eighth on the death chart.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: What? Yeah, I was....
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: How is that possible?
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: But I never really picked the school based on like, oh, no,
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: I never, obviously because they had all them guys.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: Keith came in early too. He was an early graduate.
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: So I never really picked the school based off of
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: like where I would be. I just kind of focused
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: on myself and was just like, you know, if shit
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: work out, it's going.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: To work out.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: But you had a number of offers though.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I did.
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: I had, you know, most of the North Carolina schools,
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: like Minnesota was trying to get me, um.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, Mary and Barbara went to Minnesota, right?
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Mary and Barbara.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: Okay, I didn't even know that. I didn't even know
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: he was a beast. And then Auburn, Auburn was another one.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: And that was probably like a year or two after
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: the Cam Newton year. But you know, Auburn's super weird.
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: They like go to national championship and then they don't
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: compete for like four years and then they compete and
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: then they don't compete.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: So that was part of your reason for going to Georgia?
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Like they were competing for a championship.
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: It was that. Well, my visits were terrible. My visits
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: were the worst. every time I went to Georgia. But
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: I didn't base it off of, like, how my visits went.
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: It was all based on, like, All right, my business
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: wasn't that good, but I know I'm going to have fun.
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: They might have just paired me with the wrong people.
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: Just say you met a girl on a recruiting trip.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: No, it was the food.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: It really was the food, though. The food.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: I'm going to start next year, and they tricked me
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: right on the trip.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: I'm like, it's got to be something.
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: It was the food, but then also my running back coach.
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: My running back coach, he was just like super real,
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: super down to earth. He kept it real. He used
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: to tell us like, As soon as I go get
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: you guys, I'm going to try to go get somebody
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: better than you.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: So it's like, but that's what you want to hear, too, though.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? It's a challenge for you.
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: I always, like, even doing the whole recruiting part, like,
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: I never mess with, like, negative recruiting. And when I
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: mean negative recruiting, it's talking about someone else. Like, they
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: can talk about what you can do. Don't talk bad.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: About the other school. Obviously, you ain't doing something right
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: if you got to. Bring their name up because they
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: ain't even bringing y'all name up.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Gotcha.
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: Like, that kind of always just told me about, like,
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: what was going on at that place.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: I wanted to do Clemson for sure, but I don't know.
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: It was just something about Georgia. My running back coach,
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: Brian McLennan, he's the receiver coach now with Tampa. And
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: then Coach Rick was the head coach. And he was
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: the only coach that came to my hometown and visited me.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: Okay. You know, went to church and all that stuff.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: That stuff means something, huh?
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it do. It do. It do.
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: And then respect, it was a respect level. Like, other
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: people would just show up at your house and stuff
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: like that, which I thought was, like, super weird or just, like,
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: disrespectful as well, too.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: So what did your mom or your dad have any
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: influence or, you know, give you any guidance of, like,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: where to go, what they thought, or you just kind
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: of just relied on what you're telling us now?
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: The food.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: The food.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, they, I mean, they never.
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: Like they never, you know how you got some parents
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: that's like, I want you to go here.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Like they already knew who they liked anyway.
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: But like my parents never, even my mom, like when
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: I was playing at the height, you know, the height
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: of my career, she's like, you know, you don't have
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: to play football or you don't have to do all
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: this stuff. So she never really like persuaded me or
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: convinced me. Like she always told me, you know, do
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: what I want to do or do what make me happy.
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: And that's how I tell the kids today, you know,
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: like a coach might call me like recruit. I'm like, bro,
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: you got the wrong person. Because I ain't going to
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: never tell a kid where to go. I'm going to
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: always tell them, like, do what's best for you, where
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: you want to go at. So I just kind of
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: prayed on it, you know. Same old stuff, prayed on it.
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: And I was like, all right, I'm going to Georgia.
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: And then, you know, I had called Clemson pretty much
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: just out of respect, like, hey, I'm going to go
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: to Georgia.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: And then one of the coaches was like, yeah, they
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: say you're going to be playing linebacker. I was like.
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but I won't be playing linebacker at Clemson.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: I'll be playing linebacker. You know what I'm saying?
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: So it was like, when I did that call, I
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: was like, yeah, I'm kind of glad I didn't go there.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: By the way, y'all food nasty.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: Y'all don't even remember their food for real. I didn't
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: want to be like in a super, you know, obviously
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: Athens is a college town, but it's still, you know,
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: an hour, hour and a half away from Atlanta as well, too.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: So.
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it was just something that just grew on me.
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: I knew nothing about Georgia. I knew nothing about Hershey Walker,
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: like at the beginning of the process. Yeah, like when
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: the coach called me, I was like, what? I don't
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: even know that.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: Like, who is that?
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: It was like, that's the best running back in college
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: football ever. So I started learning the history.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Take us to draft day. When you first get drafted.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: Draft day.
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: Did you go where you thought you were promised to go?
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: Or was it a complete surprise? Well, I knew all
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: that stuff, like the agents, everybody. I had to say, like,
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: they're everybody full of shit, think they know something. They
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: don't know nothing. They don't know shit. LSU was really
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: that guy. You know, like, quarterbacks, they need quarterbacks every year.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: So if you like the top three quarterbacks, you probably
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: going to get drafted pretty high. But I had tore
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: my ACL my last game.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: So I really, I mean, I.
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: Expected to go first, but maybe like late. But I
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: didn't expect to go Number 10. So I went to Chicago.
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: The draft was in Chicago. That was the first year
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: I think they left New York. And always was always
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: wanted to go to Chicago. Had, you know, the skyline
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: on my on my laptop or whatever. And it was
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: it was a good time.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: But. You know, everybody's super uptight in the green room, bro.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: It's like.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know anything about that.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: It's stressful. It's super stressful.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, share with us because I don't know.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: It's actually... I don't know nothing about the green room.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: I don't recommend it.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: How many rounds did you get drafted?
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: I just dabbed in the fourth round.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: I was like.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: I was third round 89th pick. Oh, yeah. That's right.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: You was at the crib.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: I was on campus at my coach's apartment.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: It's best to do that. I wouldn't recommend because you've
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: got to do all this stuff.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of pressure, too.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: You don't really enjoy yourself. No, it's cool. I've always
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: been super chill.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: No, I'm talking about there's the guys that go first round,
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: and they know they're going first. But then there's the
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: guys that are going first round, and they go to
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: this big-ass press conference.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then they've got to leave the next day.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: It's like, come back tomorrow.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: You can have the same seat.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: They've got to go back tomorrow.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: That happened. That happened.
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: But, no, I was just in there joking around, playing.
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: And then one of the homies called me, and it
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: was from a 4-4 number. So I think Atlanta had
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: like the eighth pick. I was like, oh, shit, like
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: I'm going to the Falcons.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Right. And it was the homies like, hey, what's on
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: the draft?
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Ha!
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: I was like, get on my phone. He ain't mean
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: no harm, though.
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: He ain't mean no harm now that I think about it,
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: you know, all them years later. And then the Rams,
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: you know, my agent was like, I think the Rams
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: are going to pick you. And I'm like, I just
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: heard so many stories of like, teams saying they gonna
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: pick somebody and they never even pick them so I'm
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: like bro I'm chilling until and then I guess like
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: an hour later I got called and then I you
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: know I did all that talked to Dion seen the
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: commissioner and I was like damn I gotta do two
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: hours worth of interviews after this I was like hell
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: nah this some bullshit and I gotta get up at
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: four in the morning the next day to go fly
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: yeah good thing I was in Chicago and you know St.
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: Louis right down the road but I was like man
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: um But I had a good time though. It was
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: a good experience for me and my family. And I
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: don't know, I ain't never really like, I'm always pretty
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: easy going to be honest with you, bro. So from
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: like where I got drafted at, I would have been
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: grateful either way. You know, I would probably, I wouldn't
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: have been one of them guys either. Like I know
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: 62 people that got drafted before me. It's like, all right,
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: we'll just see what happens when we get to the
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: league for real.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: So what were your expectations? Your rookie year.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you know you superseded them.
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: I mean, my expectations, I knew we were sorry on offense.
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: I knew the defense was good, but I didn't know, like,
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: the defense was really that good because we had, like,
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: Chris Long, Robert Quinn.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: Janoris Jenkins, Tremaine Johnson, Rodney McCloud. Had a bunch of
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: other guys. Aaron Donald had just won rookie of the
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: year the year before that. James Laurinaitis. who never really
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: kind of missed a game. I played with Ogletree at Georgia,
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: and he was there. They had Mark Barron. He came
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: from Tampa.
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: But shit, from offense-wise, you know, one of my favorite
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: players at college of all time, we had Tavon Austin.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, the receiver, yeah.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: And then we had, like, Kenny Britt. I didn't really
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: know too much about him. Wow, Tavon Austin.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: He was nice.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: And then we had just drafted, not drafted, but we
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: had Sam Bradford, but they had traded him for Nick Foles, so. Honestly,
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: I was just trying to work and get this knee
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: back right for real, for real. I wasn't really, like,
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: you know, worried about nothing.
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: I didn't know we was going to lose that damn much,
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: you know, just coming into the NFL because, you know, man,
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: you don't really win too much if you go into, like,
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: a losing team. So I probably lost more games in
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: my first year than I did in college and high.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: School all combined.
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: So just from that mental standpoint, it was just like
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: a rollercoaster ride where it's like, Damn, I'm tired of losing.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: So this is 2017, right?
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: 20 my rookie year 20 2015 2015 so you're.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Losing not a customer that especially being at georgia how
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: was the transition uh or just the mental part of
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: just dealing with that because Some players, that's a big
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: adjustment when you come from winning programs.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: As you said, you go into a team like, oh, man, shit,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: we're going to lose. But then, you know, you got
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: some great guys on defense.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Then you got to find some pieces on offense to
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: even just compete. So how was that mentally on you,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: your rookie year? And then we'll fast forward to 2017
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: to where you have, I think, a breakout year.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it was cool.
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: I mean, I ended up, like, my first game, I played,
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: I think I had like six carries for like nine yards. Then,
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: you know, you're watching the film, coach is like, see,
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: he could have had 100 yards if we would have
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: got this block. You know, I'm like, yeah, yeah, sure.
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: I mean, but, you know, rightfully so because it's the
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: ultimate team game.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Right, because you guys can't do what y'all do without
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: no holes. So that equates to like great line play.
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: Great line play and then being able to, have them
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: home run hits. You can't have them home run hits
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: if them receivers are not blocking downfield.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: Like, so, I think just being able to deal with that,
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: but then having, like, good veterans on the team, too, which,
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: I mean, they was kind of used to, some was
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: used to winning, some was used to losing, so, really
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: just not taking stuff too serious, but then also, like,
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: just being grateful and thankful that, man, I get to
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: play football in the NFL, and not taking it, like,
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: too serious, you know, from, because that, it'll drive you crazy, but,
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: From a running back standpoint in our group, we was like, man,
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: as long as we take care of what we need
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: to take care of, assignments, you know, you're on the
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: right track, you know, you're not missing your blocking.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Take care of the ball, no turnovers.
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: That's all we need to worry about. Like, fuck trying
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: to be a superhero and do what everybody else does. Like,
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: if we did our thing in the running back room selfishly.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Like, we good.
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: We can't focus on no other group. because we're not
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: in the same position as those guys.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: But being that you're like a focal point at this point,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: did you not feel like now you're becoming like, you're two, three, four,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: you're starting to understand the game, you're a part of
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: the offense.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: You're essentially becoming a vet in a sense.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Did you not feel like you could say something to
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: certain guys or not from a negative standpoint or less,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: hey guys, Because they're looking at the film, what you
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: just said, Coach, like, oh, shit, you had six carries
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: for nine yards. He would have got this block. He
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: would have got, shit, you would have had 100. Yeah.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Was there never a moment where you felt like, not
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: like I said in a negative way, but from a
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: team player standpoint that you could speak to the guy like, guys,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: let's pick it up a notch. You know what I mean?
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Because they're watching the same film that your coaches are watching.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: Nah, I've never been like that person. Like a really cold,
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: cold person.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: You weren't vocal?
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I was. But I've always, like, showed
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: by example. Well, let me tell you this.
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: I did say some shit after my second year, and
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: then after that, motherfuckers got fired. Because I was a
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: little frustrated. It was my second year. We was just terrible.
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: And I said, I'm like, bro, we look like we
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: got a middle school offense out here. Like, we ain't
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: scoring no points. We ain't scoring no touchdowns. So it
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: was just like.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: And then, you know, coaches was gone that next day. Damn.
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: Which I kind of. I don't want to say it
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: wasn't definitely not my fault. It was just how we
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: was playing. But I kind of said something then. So
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: I was like, ah, shit, maybe I do got a
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: little bit more power than I think I have. But
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: I ain't never want to be that person too because
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: ain't nobody perfect. Because sometimes I can try to call
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: somebody out and the next thing I know I'm missing
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: a block or I'm not taking the right track as
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: well too. So I know how the game goes. And
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: for me, being like a, a starter and knowing I
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: would get more and more carries. That's why I never
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: really used to stress or press too much because I'm like,
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: I know I'm going to get the ball at least
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: 20 times. It's not like I'm a situational guy where
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: I got to, like, try to make something happen. And that,
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: you know, Frank Gore kind of taught me that early on, too.
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: It was like, yo, just be patient, young fella. Like,
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: let the game come to you. So, and I try
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: not to wear, like, my, you know, my emotions on,
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: you know, my heart on my sleeve or my, you know,
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: be too emotional. Just try to, be even keeled because
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: I know you can have a great game. You can
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: have a bad game. You can have a great season.
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: You can have a good season. So just trying to
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: be even keeled for real.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Right. So to go from net now, like you said,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: great transition for, you know, you're saying having a great season.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: 2017 opposite player of.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: The year, second and MVP voting to now everybody thinks
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: the greatest of Tom Brady. So to experience like what
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: you did your rookie year, now you're telling them, okay,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Now you come a little bit more vocal. That veteran
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: leadership is starting to pop up. And then now, like
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: I said, Offensive Player of the Year, bro, that's huge.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Second in MVP voting, that's huge.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: What clicked?
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: Coaching, just coaching. I think coaching, the culture, like everything.
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: We obviously, we moved from St. Louis to L.A. And
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: I think, you know, when McVay first came in, it
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: was just like, you know, a young kid. We ain't
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: really know too much. I think he was 30 when
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: he first got the head coaching job.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, very young.
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: We ain't really know too much, but I think as we,
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: the offseason, being there in the offseason, you know, buying in, like,
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: and seeing, like, everything he was implementing and then knowing, like,
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: all right, this motherfucker probably, this motherfucker probably know what
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: he talking about.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Right, right, right.
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: Once we got to the field. and actually started working,
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: we was like, oh, yeah, he know what he talking
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: about for real.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: And it was, like I said, we always had a
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: pretty good defense. It just was, but we couldn't even
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: put up 14 points, you know? So, just the plays
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: he was calling, it was just like, it was just
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: a fresher breath of air, honestly, bro, being able to
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: go out there. And then at that time, you know,
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: I never seen myself as like a receiving, you know,
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: receiving running back. I always enjoyed catching out the backfield, but,
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: you know, seeing guys that was around the league being
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: able to catch out the.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: Backfield as well, too.
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: So I was like, yeah, why the hell would I take,
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: you know, get hit by 11 people when I could
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: just be one-on-one?
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: So being able to, like, you know, the screen game.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Right, right.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: Just, like, little flare-ups.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was about to say, little flare-screens, little flare-outs.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: Easy stuff like that.
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: And then, you know, obviously having a young guy, second-year
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: player in golf, like, that was always my thing.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: Even with the team, it's like, yo, let's make sure
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: he don't have to worry about us. You know what
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: I'm saying?
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: Because he already got a lot on his plate being
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: a quarterback, and then being a young quarterback at that, like,
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: let's make sure we got our shit together. That way
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: he don't have to, you know, that's one less thing
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: he got to worry about.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, leave you at some pressure. Yeah, so, but the blocking,
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: the blocking was there.
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: Obviously, Andrew Whitworth was doing his thing, my boy John Selly,
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: and then never had a 1,000-yard season without my guy
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: Roger Saffo, so. It's always about the line. You know,
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: the running backs, we get the credit. Yeah, we do
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: our thing. But, you know, it is always about the
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: old linemen, though, for sure.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: So you, that's how I get the point is, you
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: know what I mean?
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: It's all about, you know, I can't do what I
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: do without you, Chris.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Don't make me cry in front of our company.
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: And then when you're sorry, you're like, fuck it, I'm sorry.
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: It's not the old line. But it's them two.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: So, I'm just going to say it's obvious, but it
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: might not be to you.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: Oh, definitely.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Your career was cut short.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: Do you think and wonder sometimes what if, you know
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: what I mean? I think of people like Grant Hill
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: and Penny Hardaway.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Brandon Roy.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Yes, like what if?
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Amari Stoudemire.
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: No, because it's never enough to the people. If I
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: did three more years, they're going to say, oh, man,
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: you could have still been playing.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: But I'm not even talking about for the people. I'm
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: talking about for yourself. Nah, for me.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: You don't look out there and go, man, I could
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: have been, my name would be mentioned more. in the
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: annals of the greatest running backs?
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: Nah, because shit could have went the other way.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: I never pursued it, but I enjoyed the time that
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: I had playing and enjoyed the process. So I never
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: really thought about the future. You know what I'm saying?
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: What could have been? My main point was would I
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: be happy whether I kept playing or would I be
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: happy if I didn't play? And to know, like, my
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: answer would have been the same and it's still the
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: same six years, almost six years later.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: Like, I'm cool with that. I'm cool with that.
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: So being able to have that impact in such a
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: little amount of time. And then you got situations, too,
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: where a motherfucker played 10, 12 years but still not
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: able to accomplish what I was able to do in
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: six years.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: And then....
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: You know that the head injury, like the body and
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: all that stuff, like that drink take a toll on
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: you for real.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: So, um, yeah, no, I don't, I don't.
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: Really think about like what, what could have been and
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: stuff like that. I just kind of, you know, I
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: look at like my peers and stuff now and that's
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: still playing like the McCaffrey's, the, the eight, um, Kamar's,
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: the day Henry's. And I'll be like, yeah, them boys,
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: them boys doing that thing. And then to know that
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: I'm like, I was right there, you know, along that
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: ride with those guys as well. So, yeah, I don't
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: never really trip, man. I don't never really trip too
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: much about it. I only think about it when the
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: questions come up like this, honestly. Like, that's the only
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: time I really kind of like really process it and
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: think about it, honestly.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: It seems like you have kind of the same mindset
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: as your mom, where, like, none of that shit matters.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: And it's more about this moment.
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: It never, it never really does because it's like, we
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: can't name the first gladiator.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: It's like, and we see it every year, like, the disrespect. Oh,
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: this best, this the best rookie since, this the best
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: rookie and then two years later we don't say shit
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: about him. Then two years later we don't say nothing
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: about him. It's just like, Then, you know, the compare
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: and contrast. You can't get caught up in the hype.
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: You can't get caught up in the hype. You know,
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: someone asked me, what's the difference between, you know, the
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: top ten backs in the league and the ones that's not?
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: I'm like, nothing shit. The ones that ain't, they're going
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: to eventually. It's all about opportunity as well, too.
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: It's all about opportunity. So, I mean, I know how this,
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: I know how the game is. I've always kind of
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: been like a historian. So, I never definitely, I ain't
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: want to play on too many teams either. I ain't
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: want to just be. And then I think, I ain't
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: going to lie, LA spoiled me too. So I'm like,
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: I'm like Buffalo.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: Nah, I'm cool. All these like cold cities. I'm like, nah,
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: I'm good.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: So when did you know it was really, it was
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: the end? Because some people know, and then some people
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: don't know. Some people like myself, I wanted to finish
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: on my own terms. I wasn't afforded the opportunity to
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: do that. So obviously, like I said, injuries may have
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: played a big part in that. But again, like I said,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: he just asked you like, did you want to continue
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: to play? But you knew internally. And then, like I said,
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: your team know, like, you may have been injured more
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: so than the public knew.
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I've always been available to play. Like, one thing
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: that's been seen, like, you would have thought I missed, like,
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: two seasons. They, like, this thing always hurt you, injury problem. Like,
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: I'm always out there. I only probably miss, probably play, like, 80,
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: 85 games. I probably miss, like, five games. But I
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: knew I was done. I talked about it on previous podcasts,
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: but I pretty much knew I was done when I
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: got a chance to, you know, sign with the Ravens,
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: and I had to think about it. And I grew
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: up a Ravens fan, you know what I'm saying? Ed
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: Reed's my favorite player of all time. And then also
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: being able to have a chance to sign to Detroit
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: as well with golf being there as well. So when
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: I had to think about that, like when I had
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: to think about it, it was like, that's my answer
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: right there.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? It was like.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Because it was like automatic.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: It would have been immediate.
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I should have been ecstatic to be able to
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: play for my child. I should have just signed with
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: him and just never showed up.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: With the fans probably would have pissed off. Yeah, but yeah,
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: that was pretty much the answer right there. And it
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: goes back to what I just said. It was like,
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: if I go out there, I'll ball out. What would
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: this do for me internally? I'm like, it wouldn't glorify
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: or satisfy me any more or none less. whether I
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: had a 1,000-yard season or whether I had 10 yards
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: that season. And then from just the injury standpoint, I'm like, bro,
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to keep going out there, you know,
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: messing up my body. Thankfully, I was only able to
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: have one surgery. So I'm like, and then I was
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: still in L.A.
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: The COVID year had happened that year before, too, so
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: that kind of like just shifted things just from my
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: perspective of like what's important.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: And being able to, it just, you know, it slowed
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: everything down, right? Everybody was slowed down that year. So
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: just keeping my perspective and just keeping my attitude in
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: the right place, bro, I feel like that's always been
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: able to, like, carry me and just kept my sanity
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: for myself, for real.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Speaking of sanity, we got to ask this question.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: What question?
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: How did the invitation... What's his name? Donald Trump.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, DT. He said DT.
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: Like you know him personally.
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: So originally, yeah, I was random as hell. He said DT.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: The only DT I know is Derrick Thomas.
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: Nah, it was super random. You know, it happened probably
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: like a couple weeks ago. So originally we were supposed
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: to go, you said you went to the Georgia and
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: the Alabama game. So originally he was going to go
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: to that game, but you know it was like a
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: whole storm, whole hurricane going on that weekend.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a big storm.
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: So they didn't really kind of know. It ended up
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: passing by that same day. But yeah, originally I was
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: going to go to that game because they asked.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, cool. I'm like, I was thinking,
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, that is the president. And I was like.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: All right, that's cool.
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm like, shit, I go to a game, and
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: then they cancel, and then they gave me a couple
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: other dates, and I'm like, I thought about it. I'm like, man, shit,
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: I'm going. I'm going to the White House. I'm going
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: to get on Air Force One, and I'm like, man,
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: I went to Georgia. It's a rally all the time
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: at one of them games, but I ain't really, I
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: just wanted to go for myself and my experience. I
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: already knew what the internet and all that stuff was
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: going to do, so I wasn't really tripping. I know myself,
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying? I know I'm comfortable with myself,
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: so I don't really care about none of the noise,
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: for real, for real.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: And I love the internet. You know, it's undefeated either way.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: There's no winning. Yeah, I just went through with that experience,
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: and I was like, I'm going. You know what I'm saying?
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: So you went, and you're saying you're knowing there was
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: going to be a lot of backlash.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: So what did you hope to accomplish there? Was it
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: your fascination of being on Air Force One?
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Qatar One, that's not.
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, because they gifted it to him, right? No, I
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: didn't really think too much into it.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: Oh, sorry.
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: As far as hoping to accomplish, it was more of
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: an experience for myself. Yeah, it was more of an experience.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: So you never thought about the optics?
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Nah.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: I didn't care.
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: People are going to say what they got to say
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: either way. And I'm not even, like, I'm still not even,
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: and I ain't never been a big explainer, and I'm
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: still not going to really explain myself today either.
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: But, yeah, I went.
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: I wanted to go to the White House, never been
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: to the White House. And I'm like, fuck it, I'm
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: getting on the Air Force One as well, too.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Were you a fan of Trump before the phone call?
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: Nah.
• 46:02
  Speaker 6: Nah, I never really, never really, like, thought too much
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: into it. As you can tell, we swayed to the left.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah.
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: And seeing all the destruction he's been doing to our culture.
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: I mean, as soon as he got there, he fired
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: like some of the.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: A number of... A number of.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: People in key positions.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: And people of color.
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, people of color in key positions. He basically has
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: done away with DEI. I mean, there's a list of
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: things that.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Stripped a lot of black historians from historical monuments and
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: stripped their names, things of that nature. And then also,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: I think, I don't know how you grew up, but I,
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: and I would, I would think that me personally growing
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: up in a low income family, knowing how my mom struggled,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: even now thinking about like high gas prices, high groceries,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: things that directly impact and affect black community. And I would,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: I would assume, or I think that you grew up
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: somewhat similar knowing that you played at Georgia, play professional football.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: What do you think, or what do you say to
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: those kids that, Even myself included, we're looked at, we're
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: looked upon as like heroes to them. And the optics
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: of you, I'd like to say aligning yourself with somebody
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: like Donald Trump. Like, what do you think that that
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: looks and how those kids feel that look up to
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: us as heroes? And to what Chris was saying, like
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: he's done a lot. People say he's done a lot
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: of good for black people, but there's been a lot
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: of bad that he's done that has impacted our black community.
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: I mean, when you think about the kids, obviously, you know,
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: that's the future for sure. So being able to even
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: talk to different kids and be able to, like.
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: But also, too, in all reality, I only got the call,
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: and I'm only here today, too. Or people even know
• 47:56
  Speaker 6: me just because of fucking football.
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? I wouldn't be here talking
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: to y'all. I wouldn't have been on that... Wouldn't have
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: been on a plane.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: Or people wouldn't even care if it wasn't for sports.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: So that's another... false reality in.
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: Itself so that's why i always carry myself the way
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: i carry myself because i know it's a game bro
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: obviously it was just a game until you had guys
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: like tom brady right people like yourself lebron james where
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: they just took it right above and beyond but um
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: sometimes you still got to be able to have them
• 48:29
  Speaker 6: conversations you know from the other side because from my
• 48:32
  Speaker 6: standpoint of We see it all the time as well.
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: You go to the NFL, you're super happy. You get drafted,
• 48:39
  Speaker 6: you get the tattoo, you get the chain. And then
• 48:42
  Speaker 6: by the time you leave the NFL, it's after NFL.
• 48:45
  Speaker 6: But still being able to, like, I get what you're saying,
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: like the hatred out your heart and be able to
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: still work.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: With those teams as well.
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: You're going to be better off getting stuff done, working
• 48:59
  Speaker 6: with the team, than just being completely against it. And
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: that's not saying about like what the Republican Party or whatever.
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: But for me, like I said, I ain't really know
• 49:12
  Speaker 6: no question about it. Like I wanted to go for myself.
• 49:14
  Speaker 6: And then sometimes you just got to you got to
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: go for the seed.
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: Like you got it. you gotta see stuff on your
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: own as well too.
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: Did you guys have any like real conversations about.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: So how long was yeah how long was the ride
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: the plane ride and it wasn't.
• 49:29
  Speaker 6: Only the plane ride I went from D.C. to what's D.C.
• 49:33
  Speaker 6: to Georgia like an hour and a half D.C. to
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: Georgia and then Georgia to Florida which is like another
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: hour So.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: So how was the food?
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: The food was, um, the food was.
• 49:45
  Speaker 6: Straight nigga was starving. I was definitely starving. The food
• 49:48
  Speaker 6: was straight. I don't, I don't eat, um, beef. So
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: I didn't eat like that. Like a little Chipotle bowl
• 49:53
  Speaker 6: up there, which that was cool, but I didn't eat
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: it cause it was beef. And then, uh, salad was,
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: the salad was busting for sure.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: Did you guys, did he ask you about your feelings about, uh,
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: his first two years, um, the, the way the country
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: is going or, I mean, I know he thinks black
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: people all love him, but did he ask you, did
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: you guys talk about anything in depth?
• 50:15
  Speaker 6: No, we was talking about, obviously we was talking about
• 50:17
  Speaker 6: sports just in general. And then, you know, we kind
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: of had a couple of conversations about, you know, other
• 50:23
  Speaker 6: stuff as well.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Did you ever ask him why me?
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: I know why me.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: Hold on, I want to hear this.
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: Athlete, like public figure. You know what I'm saying?
• 50:35
  Speaker 6: It's like, if I don't, you know, if I say yes,
• 50:38
  Speaker 6: if I say no, it's like you're going to get
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: somebody else either way.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: Like, that's like self-explanatory.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: Did you have any thoughts or inclinations that maybe my
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: visit with this guy, I can have a conversation with
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: him and sway him in any way, shape, or form?
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: Nah.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: You weren't thinking that?
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: And then did you.
• 50:59
  Speaker 6: Ever feel like everything is a process as well too
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: so it's not like you know you might have a
• 51:05
  Speaker 6: meeting with someone or this is hypothetically speaking where it's
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: like you know you ain't gonna persuade nobody overnight you
• 51:12
  Speaker 6: know i'm saying it's it's also about like different like
• 51:15
  Speaker 6: steps right into things exactly so you know hopefully hopefully
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: and you know um yeah hopefully maybe that does you
• 51:24
  Speaker 6: know come together you know one of these days but
• 51:27
  Speaker 6: For me, it's like I know myself and I know
• 51:29
  Speaker 6: what I do for people and for other people, let alone,
• 51:34
  Speaker 6: most importantly, the youth. But that don't really matter in
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: this world.
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: Perception is reality.
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: So it's like you go on stage or you go
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: with a person that's disliked, then that's just how they're
• 51:49
  Speaker 6: going to see it. And if it was the other side,
• 51:51
  Speaker 6: it would be, you know, comments about that as well, too.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: Your purpose for going, like you said, you went for
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: the experience. And I think what Chris was saying, too,
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: we're trying to get an understanding like, okay, you're a figure.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: You have people that look up to you. Kids, family,
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: everybody else. Like you said, the optics, it doesn't look good.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: So with you being in his presence, was there something
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: that you shared with him? Like you said, you're not
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: going to sway anybody overnight, but was there any type
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: of dialogue to where you were trying to get maybe
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: an understanding of maybe how he thinks, you know, toward
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: the black community or how he's running the country, things
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: of that nature.
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: I feel like we all, not all know that, but like,
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: you know, what you see is what you get. You
• 52:37
  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying? We've seen that over the last
• 52:40
  Speaker 6: couple of years. And that's just with anybody. You know,
• 52:43
  Speaker 6: if I'd known you for 10 years, I'm a, you know,
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: what you see is what you get. Um, type standpoint
• 52:50
  Speaker 6: and you don't know everybody either right from because we
• 52:53
  Speaker 6: think we know a lot of motherfuckers and they'd be
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: like we don't know what they doing so my my
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: biggest thing has always been like um focus focus on
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: yourself focus on your family and fixing fixing them issues
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: and then um you know you can you can bring
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: it towards the world as well too but some shit
• 53:13
  Speaker 6: some shit just ain't It ain't even worth explaining either.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: So you basically did it for yourself regardless of what
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: the optics were.
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, hell yeah. I'm a young kid.
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: I never thought in a million years I'd be able
• 53:25
  Speaker 6: to go to the White House, let alone, you know
• 53:27
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying, me to act the president as well.
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: Whether you like a motherfucker or you don't.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: So you don't feel like there was other opportunities to
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: get to the White House than maybe accept an invitation through?
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: Could have, but who invited me?
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: I get, I get, true, true.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Question, did you feel the same way?
• 53:44
  Speaker 6: But it ain't like no big thing for me. It
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: was like, like I said, I'm, my ass is going
• 53:48
  Speaker 6: to be the same.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Do you feel any different now that you've done it?
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Do you feel no regret, no nothing? Or would you
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: second guess if it was, now what you know, would
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: you do it again if he were to ask you?
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: Now what I know what?
• 54:01
  Speaker 6: I'm, I'm, I'm still going to make the same or
• 54:05
  Speaker 6: whatever decision that I, that I already made.
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: Okay. Like ain't nobody going.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: No, no, that's fair. Yeah. That's why I was asking.
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: We don't want to feel like, you know.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: We're pushing you.
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: Y'all good.
• 54:16
  Speaker 6: I mean, this is content. This is what y'all supposed
• 54:19
  Speaker 6: to do for me. Ask the questions for the people.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: No, no. We was talking.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: About Qatar one.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. We respect you.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: And obviously I understand everything that you get there.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: You see this fucking huge stairway to this big ass plane.
• 54:32
  Speaker 6: No, I was just more, that motherfucker was big as hell. Because,
• 54:36
  Speaker 6: you know, most of the time you go on a plane,
• 54:37
  Speaker 6: I mean, unless you're flying in a Burbank, you.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: Know, you don't get it.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: Shout out to JSEX.
• 54:43
  Speaker 6: Or just, it don't matter. Just, what, Hollywood or Bob
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: Hope Airport, you don't see the planes.
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: Most of the time, you're getting in on, you know,
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: the bridgeway.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: The jetway.
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: The jetway. So, I was just like, God damn, this plane,
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: big as hell. Just.
• 54:59
  Speaker 6: And then, you know, I'm a photogenic person anyway, so
• 55:02
  Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm getting photos. Like, I'm taking some photos.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: How's it sectioned off?
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: Is it like, there's a first class, and then there's
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: this office.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Will you guys sit next to each other?
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you got the plane. You got the plane. You got, like,
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: two floors. Two floors? Yeah, it's like two floors. Yeah, yeah,
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: that big-ass plane better have three, four floors.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: But it's like half hotel suite and, like, half plane.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Shit.
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's like a fan of the Four Seasons
• 55:31
  Speaker 6: or something, like a suite or something like that.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: And then you got, like, the media crew. There's, like,
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: room for them. I think it's, like, 13 media people. It's, like,
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: a little section off. So you know the people that be, like,
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: at the bottom of the plane, like, Mr. President, Mr. President.
• 55:48
  Speaker 6: And then after, like, he gets on the plane, they
• 55:49
  Speaker 6: got to, like— Scramble. They got to run up before
• 55:51
  Speaker 6: they get their ass left because, you know, everybody move
• 55:54
  Speaker 6: as they go.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: As he moves, right.
• 55:55
  Speaker 6: And, like, getting them in and out. The cool part,
• 55:59
  Speaker 6: I ain't gonna lie, was the Osprey. It's like a,
• 56:02
  Speaker 6: I think a Marines helicopter.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: You gotta like get in and like, should be hot
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: on there. Were you able to get in that first?
• 56:10
  Speaker 6: Nah, I got in there after. So we got in
• 56:13
  Speaker 6: there after. So we took the, took the, the plane,
• 56:18
  Speaker 6: took the helicopter.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: From, where the plane landed to Georgia.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep.
• 56:23
  Speaker 6: So yeah, that joint, it really was crazy like, Everything
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: that goes into moving.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: The president?
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: From one spot to another. Yeah, like the decoys.
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: Like the decoy helicopters.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: I heard about that.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: I heard about the decoy. Did you see? I don't
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: know if you guys saw it on Instagram. The dude,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: there was a.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Catering, I think it was a catering truck.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: There was a fake Trump that snuck out in a
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: catering truck.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: No, no. He went up there and Trump snuck out
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: in the catering truck.
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: Oh, but he was supposed to be like, I don't
• 56:58
  Speaker 6: know to that magnitude. I mean, all this is one day. So,
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying?
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: You were just taking it all in.
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: Taking it all in, but also just looking like, all right,
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: they got the, you know, them gray, like, bomber planes
• 57:14
  Speaker 6: as well, too, because you got to have them around.
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 57:17
  Speaker 6: And then you got all the Secret Service people, but
• 57:19
  Speaker 6: that's not even including, like, Highway Patrol that's blocking shit.
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: Off two, three miles.
• 57:24
  Speaker 6: And probably all types of snipers, all types of everywhere,
• 57:29
  Speaker 6: for real, for real. So I'm just like, yo, they
• 57:31
  Speaker 6: really got to move like this every single day.
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: But not only that, thinking about.
• 57:38
  Speaker 6: Everybody that's probably been a president.
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: Like, I'm sure Biden....
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: He probably not moving around to that magnitude, but he
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: still has to move around.
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: Yes. Obama. Yeah, so I'm like, yo, I'm like, this is.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they have Secret Service for life.
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: But there's a difference after you retire.
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: So I was fortunate enough to play golf with 44
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: when he was president and when he wasn't. And so
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: the first time I played, it was... We played on
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: the golf course in Martha's Vineyard.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Ten flanking people.
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: Up north, right?
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Martin's Vineyard near Cape Cod.
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: 10 in front, 10 behind us, two people in carts
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: here with machine guns on the finger. Like if they sneak,
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: it's an open space too, so it's probably super dangerous
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: to be in there. So these two 10 dudes are
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: walking down the fairway as we're hitting the ball up
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: the fairway and there's people behind us.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: There was people everywhere. I hit my ball in the bushes.
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: I was looking for it. Secret Service came out.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: And go, it's right there, young man, and walked away.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck was that?
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: He knew where the ball was. He was in the bushes.
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: He was in the bushes.
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: I was like, okay. And then the next time I went,
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: it was less. But now that it makes sense, it's like,
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: it's the president. What I'm just saying is, The following year,
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: it wasn't 200 people there.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: It was 100.
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: He was active at the time? I'm saying he was active.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: I played with him active and then non-active.
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: It was two different scenarios. I got you, I got you,
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: I got you. Oh shit, so yeah, you.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: I've seen things.
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: I didn't get on the plane, I didn't get on
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: the plane.
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: I've seen things.
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: But the plane was cool, it was like the control
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: room and then obviously the cockpit.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: So you took a tour. Yeah, yeah, I had.
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: To get on the tour.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: Now who did you bring with you?
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: I was solo.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: Did you have to go through some like background check
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: before you.
• 59:31
  Speaker 6: Nah you just fill out like a little form and
• 59:33
  Speaker 6: junk like that and then you just go through like
• 59:35
  Speaker 6: TSA once you get to the White House and then
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: could you have brought somebody yeah I probably could have
• 59:40
  Speaker 6: I probably.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Could have brought somebody yeah you didn't call me you.
• 59:42
  Speaker 6: Wouldn't have you know everybody's hitting me up like damn
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: like who I need to talk to.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah man you could have hit me up I probably
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have gone.
• 59:51
  Speaker 6: But they do travel with a big staff though I
• 59:53
  Speaker 6: think like a staff of like a hundred I'm like
• 59:56
  Speaker 6: damn that's a lot of people.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: You feel respected?
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: What you mean?
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: Like everybody there was very respectful?
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody was respectful. Yeah, for sure.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: So what was a.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: But you know, they working too, so it's like.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 6: Oh, you be talking, but you ain't want to talk
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 6: too much because get these niggas in trouble today.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: Because we know what's going to happen when you say something.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: People get fired.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: I was watching another dude over there was eating some
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: crackers while he was in your briefing.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: No, they chill. They waiting.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 6: But, you know, when he's around, you know, they got,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 6: they on work duties. And then it's, you know, it's militant. So, well,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 6: they got different protocols of, you know, how they got
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 6: to stand and, you know, different procedures like that.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: So, did you have an itinerary of what you were doing?
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they gave me a checkbook.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: They gave me a checkbook of like, What you want
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: to do, what you didn't want to do.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 6: Nah, it's like a checkbook of like the whole layout
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 6: of the schedule of like.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: This is what you were going to do.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 6: Of like everything in a day. Like this is the
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 6: plane y'all getting on. This is the motorcade you getting on.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 6: Like the transportation.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: It's like.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: Did you know he was going to call you to
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: the stage?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: All the way to the... You know, you know. Come on.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: It's like, you know that was going to happen. Right.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: You know that was going to happen.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: So did you know what you was going to say?
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Was it rehearsed? Scripted?
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: I knew I wasn't going to say too much. I
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: knew I wasn't going to say too much. I knew
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: I was in Georgia.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 6: I knew I was in Georgia, so I'm like, I'm
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 6: hitting a nigga with the go-dogs and... And just say
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 6: thank you. Thank you for the experience.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: So for me, it surprised me because I've known, we've
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: known each other. We have a mutual friend in Devon.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: Shout out Devon. But you've always been quiet and reserved
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: or whatever. So that's why it just kind of like,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: I was surprised by it.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Nah, I just knew I was going, you know,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: he's going to hype you up.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 6: You know, he's like, oh, that's a good looking fella
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: right there.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: Come on up here. You know, come up here.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: He's a good looking guy.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 6: For me, you know, just saying thank you. You know,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 6: I ain't gonna lie, nigga, definitely want to say thank you, Mr.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: President. But being able to just say thank you for
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: the experience. What did I say? Thank you for the experience.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: Go Dawgs.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, go Dawgs.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 6: Appreciate, you know, the state of Georgia. You said they've
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 6: always been there for you.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: They come from Georgia.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 6: Most people, that's where I made my name at, was
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 6: the state of Georgia as well, too. You said thank
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 6: you for what you've done for me. Yeah, something along
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 6: those lines.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: And then it was.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: How many people y'all think was there? 300. Yeah. That's
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: what I was saying. I was like, damn it.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: It looked like, you said what it looked like? No, no, no.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: I was asking them. Yeah. How many people you think?
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: It looked like it was thousands.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: Thousands, yeah. No, it was like 300. So that's where
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: I was mostly, I was like, damn, these niggas be
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: doing all this for 300 people.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 6: But it's part of the, it's part of the, it's
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 6: part of the, Persona. No, yeah, that runs in the
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 6: political party, I guess, right?
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: What did your family think?
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: Oh, well, my family?
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: I was like, nigga, you met the president? Air Force One?
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 6: You know, you got different families. I mean, I only
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: talk to, you know, my immediate. I got different families
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 6: that I talk to as well.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: Right, right, right, right. But, you know, everybody got their, like, own.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 6: Opinions and different stuff like that as well, too, though. But, yeah,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 6: my mom, she was like, you know, crying and shit.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 6: She's like, God damn, my baby. Going to the White
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 6: House and shit like that. You know, she always, whatever
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 6: I do, I could, well, not whatever I do. But, yeah, moms,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 6: you know, moms always going to support me no matter what.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 6: And show hella love. Even my brothers and my sisters,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying? They going to be that
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 6: same way as well, too. So, yeah, I always had
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 6: a good supporting cast. Even when I was playing, I
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 6: was never like, a stressful thing to me, you know,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 6: when I was playing as well.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: Is he asking more of you since the trip? Does
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: he want you to campaign for him?
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 6: Nah, I drank with just the other day. Nah, you
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 6: know how that drink is.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: You understood exactly what the mission was?
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 6: It's like, I mean, you see it, I'll say it
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 6: like this, and it's like, I would think grown folks
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: would know what the mission is.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: Like, the kids and stuff, no.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: But it's like, I don't think all grown people know either.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: You can't say all grown people.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 6: Well, no, yeah, because everybody mind. I mean, me and
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 6: my boy, we had that conversation, you know, earlier.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I know you don't probably want to go
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: into it.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: Well, mostly, I know what it is, though. It'd be the,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: what's the joint called?
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 6: You know, the titles and stuff from online and stuff, too.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: Like, Girly Goes MAGA or something like that.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: I've never seen that one yet.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: Or just.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's different platforms. So, you know, this shit entertainment, man.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 6: That's all the junk is.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, but it ain't. But I think from, yeah,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: that's how you see it. But I think from the
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: black community, it's not entertainment when we know what Trump means.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: And has done to the black community. That's how we
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: see it.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: You have your vision, like I said, not to deter you,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: but that's how a lot of other people see it.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: And like I said, Everybody has their own perspective and
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: their own point of views. And like I said, you're
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: your own person. You're your own man. And even just
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: sitting here today, that's how you've always been. So it
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: gives us and our viewers really a.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: True understanding of why you went.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: And so is that does that satisfy everybody that's watching?
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: Maybe not, but they have a true understanding and a
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: look into who you are and what made you make
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: your decision.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: And I can't do anything but but respect it.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: And if he starts doing all this great shit for
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: black people, we're going to be like, that motherfucker Todd
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: Gurley did this.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 5: That motherfucker could get coaches fired, black people hired.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: So what was your takeaway from the trip?
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 6: You know how when you go to a five-star hotel
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 6: for the first time and they got the.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: You know, everything in there, the amenities. Shit that you've
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: never seen. You're like, ah, just take this just because.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 6: Now, they had, like, these little peanut M & Ms,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 6: but it's like, it just say, like, Air Force One
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 6: or President.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: You got the, like, the different logos. So, just took, like,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: a couple boxes.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: No, I meant your, yes, that's your takeaway. That's what
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: you took.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 5: But I'm talking about from the whole experience.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: It's still early. You got to think. What's today? Wednesday?
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: Wednesday?
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: Or Tuesday? It's Tuesday. I just did it Saturday. So
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: I'm still processing.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: So you're in the moment.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 6: I'm still processing everything. And this is, you know, I
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 6: talk to a lot of good friends after. He's like, man,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 6: take a moment to process everything. Technology free at that.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying? Technology free. So it's only
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 6: been three days, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: 72 hours.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, 72 hours and still being able to, like, just
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 6: come on and talk about it.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: We appreciate it, man.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: No, for sure.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 6: Because it ain't, whether I say right things, wrong things, like,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 6: it ain't going to persuade me, persuade you, or however
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 6: we look or live our lives as well, too, so.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 6: but yeah still processing it still processing it so you didn't.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: Talk about the reparations or nothing for us no I.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: Didn't I didn't get to that part you owe me
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: $ 20 you said it would you say you know you
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: gotta crawl before you can walk.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 6: Maybe maybe man we'll see we'll see but um but
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 6: yeah definitely still definitely still processing everything though for sure though.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: Alright man we're gonna get into some fun stuff you
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: know what I mean I don't want you to feel
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: like that seat is getting hot.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: Nah, bro. Ain't no pressure. Ain't no pressure. Ain't no
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: pressure because, yeah, I'm not ducking the smoke.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: I got you.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, you know me. I get your popcorn ready.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: So I have a good segment on here called Get
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: Your Popcorn Ready.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: Fast answers.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: I'm going to get some quick-heading questions I want to see.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: Get your answers right away. Right now, best running back
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: in football right now.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: Right now?
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: Right now.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: Kenneth Walker.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs. I told you.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my guy.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl MVP.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: You said it right now.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: And what you did last week. Yep. That nigga still
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: doing it. He been doing it every week. Right.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: Right. You talked about being a running back, you know,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: obviously hitting. Basically, we want a position that hits every play.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: You know, it ain't in high school. Like I said,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: you want a 26, 27 sweep. You're going outside. In
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: the pros, you have to go between the gaps. And,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: you know, there are some linebackers and things of that nature,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: hard-hitting safeties. What is one of the most feared defenders
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: in the league? in your career that you didn't really
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: want to, I ain't going to say want to match
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: up with, but there was, you know, maybe question going
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: in there. Like fear? That was on the other side,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: like a defender.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: And it may not be none.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: Nah, not fear. Ain't nobody scared of nobody.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: Or you hated seeing. Is that a better question?
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: And for a running back, who is that person? Is
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: it usually the linebackers?
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: Unless you just got somebody that's like reckless, abandoned. They
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 6: just don't care about their body. Errol Thomas used to
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 6: be like that, but it's like 200 pounds. I'm not
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 6: too concerned, but he is still all fourth.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: Right, right, right.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 6: Buda Baker was that. It still is that way. Still
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 6: on the ice, still playing. I mean, obviously, I played
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 6: against Bobby Wagner twice a year. I came in, thankfully.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 6: Patrick Willis had retired that year before. Navarro Bowman.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: Bowman.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: He was a big linebacker.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: He was a beast.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 6: And I'm young, so I'm trying to pass the tech.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 6: He loved that spin move. Super annoying guy. He's super annoying.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 6: Annoying as hell. Luke Keekly.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: Motherfucker just going to know all the plays.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: Right, right.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 6: Like, no matter where you check at, you can be
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 6: trying to switch up your stance, look.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: The other way. He know.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: He already know what's coming.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: He like, ball's coming right here. I'm like, God damn it.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: It is. So, him. All right, cool.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, them guys, them guys.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: Biggest trash talker?
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 6: When I was playing trash talker, who was, DJ Swearinger
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 6: was a big trash talker. He went to South Carolina,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 6: and I think he was playing with Washington. Did Honey Badger? No,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 6: not Honey Badger. I'm not even going to say the
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 6: other clown name, but. I ain't going to give him
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 6: no juice. No, I'm not giving him no juice at all. But, yeah,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 6: he's still playing today. Give us his name.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: Nope, I'm not giving him nothing.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: All right, well, you've made a lot of money.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: I didn't make nothing.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you did.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: I'm broke. That's why you think I went. Negative.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: Negative.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: I ain't got no money.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: I'm out of money, y'all.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: I lost it all.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: No, you didn't.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: I lost it all.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: You were one of the first running backs to really
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: have some big payday. So what was one of your
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: two things, two questions? Your best purchase and your worst purchase.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: Just my best purchase.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, even from your signing bonus, you're being the
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: number 10 pick. Like, you know, we know what that
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: money's like.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 6: I mean, I definitely probably had like a private investment
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 6: that probably failed for sure.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: That would be your worst purchase?
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 6: From a materialistic thing-wise, my worst purchase?
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: From your standards, I mean.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: All right, damn, that's a good question. You get a
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: fat gold chain.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: That's not his era. Fat gold chain is my era.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, I did.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: Get a chain.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I got a chain. Yeah, I did get a chain.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: I don't wear it as much.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: With your number on it?
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 6: No number, yeah. Nah, it was just a plain Cuban. Yeah,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 6: I guess I still have it, but I don't really.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: Wear it for real.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: So that would be your worst? What would be your
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: best then?
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 6: My best purchases are my experiences, my travel experiences, being
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 6: able to just travel around the world, see different things,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 6: go to different countries.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: All right, cool.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: And then obviously, you know, the typical one, like being
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 6: thankful and grateful enough to be able to, you know,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 6: to buy both of my parents' homes.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: Homes, yeah, for sure.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: Gotcha.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: That's definitely the best ones.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: I may already know this, and everybody watching me may
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: know this too.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: Most famous person in your phone?
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: Probably Hov though. Jay-Z. Okay.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: So you got him on speed dial? Okay, you can
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: call him up right now.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, but that's my, I'm signed to that
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 6: agency coming out of college. So them always been, you
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying?
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: Roc Nation, right?
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they always been family.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 6: Even though I ain't been playing for six years, but
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 6: the love has always been there and they always, you know,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 6: vice versa. I still show them, you know, loyalty and
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 6: love to the game and vice versa.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: So, yeah.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny you mention Roc Nation because a lot
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: of people were speculating and I had told some people
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: that you were coming on the show and they was like, man,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: how did he get on the, how did that, you know.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: Happen with DT?
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: They were like, and then everybody kind of backtracked and like, oh, well,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: he was with Roc Nation. So they figured that was. Oh,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: that's how they. Yeah. Hey, yo.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: Yo, people trying to piece shit together, man.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 6: They definitely be trying to piece something together. I was
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 6: just a friend. It was somebody, I wouldn't say a friend,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 6: but it's somebody I knew.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: In New York. And then they had like reached out
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: to like one of my people.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: But it wasn't like, it wasn't a rock nation thing though. Cool.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: So again, okay.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: Two more questions. There you go.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: Jay-Z, you can't make it who you got.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: Right. I got that girly dude.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: He ain't doing shit today. Right. Okay.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: Um, are you a movie buff? You like, I love movies.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: So there was a movie about you. Who plays Todd
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: Gurley in a movie?
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 6: Like, one of them, like, idiotic actors. Like, they just funny. Like,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 6: super funny. Always a clown in all the movies. Like
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 6: a Will Ferrell. Like, Will Ferrell. Or my favorite movie
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 6: is Superbad. So, either one of those guys. But they're going.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: To play Todd Gurley.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: You know Will Ferrell's white, right?
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 5: And so is the super bad guy. So who black
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 5: and funny is the autobiography about you?
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: Nigga, do you want my answer or not? What the fuck?
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: You trying to correct my answer. Like, are you going
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: to correct my answer? So don't ask me another question, dude,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: because you're going to ask me a question now. I
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: can't answer it.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: He ain't shaped like you.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: I'm the host. I'm the guest. You're the host. You're right.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: Truth.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: Truth.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: All right. It's acting. They do a hell of a
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: job with it.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: They got AI.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: They got AI now.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: I was thinking Michael B. Jordan.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 6: Nah, he said, like, my life and just how it is.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 4: Okay, gotcha.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's who I'm thinking of. Or you got, like,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 6: my man Craig Robinson. He's super funny, though. Like, that
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 6: type of personality, you know what I'm saying, that kind
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 6: of plays those, like, roles in movies.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, so they have to do a deep dive, deep
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: study of who you are and what you're about, all
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: that stuff.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: Not just the athletic ability and.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: Stuff like that.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but that's, I don't know. Well, I wouldn't be
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 6: involved in a movie unless there's some paper involved, so.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 6: You know, they got writers and producers for that junk.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: That's a good question, though.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: Last question. If you had to choose today, would you
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: choose a healthy 2017 Todd Gurley, Offensive Player of the Year,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: second in MVP voting to Tom Brady, first team All-Pro,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: would you take that Todd Gurley or would you take
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: the bank account today? Which would you choose?
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: What, my bank account today?
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, even the payday of a running back today versus
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: going back and playing.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: With the accolades.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: The accolades and everything.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: That successful season that you had in 2017. It was
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: pretty much a stellar season. Offensive player of the year,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: second in MVP voting, first team All-Pro.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: Would you choose that or would you take a big payday?
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: I don't know, shit, I got both, so I have. That's, like,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: hard to answer the question.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: I guess he's trying to ask you which one felt better. Yeah,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: that would be, yeah.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: I don't think I really processed that either, though, that
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: whole season.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: How you play and then you go.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, because you know what, we as athletes, yeah,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: when we grow up, you play football, like, yeah, what
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: comes with football is the financial... benefits of it but
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: then you can like I'm trying to take you.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 6: Back yeah I know a lot of broke people that
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 6: got Super Bowls so yeah give me yeah give me
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 6: the payday yeah yeah give.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 5: Me the payday yeah give me the payday yeah that's
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 5: what I'm trying to that's what I'm trying.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: To give me the payday yeah give me the payday
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: you know all stuff.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 5: Like that is Gilbert Arena he's always like y'all always
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: bragging about this ring and all that shit he's like
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: how often.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: Do you look at the ring ain't nobody helping nobody.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: After that right.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 6: They do the GoFundMe they Skipping right past it. So, yeah,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 6: give me the bread and thankfully and hopefully not able
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 6: to mess it up.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: This is Get to the W. The who, the what,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: the why, and the last one is for the win.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: Who can still tell Todd Gurley he's wrong and you
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: will listen?
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the people that I talk to and it's in
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 6: my contacts. I mean, y'all can tell me, too. Like,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 6: people can tell me. Yeah, people can tell me. So yeah,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 6: like my inner circle. But that don't have to be,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 6: because it could just be a random person that I
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 6: could just be talking.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: You're open.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 6: It doesn't have to be specifically somebody. It could just be,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 6: as long as the energy is right and it's like
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 6: we're having a conversation as grown people without the emotions
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 6: super evolved.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: What did losing football teach you that winning didn't? Or
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: that winning never could?
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 6: You know what who's for you who's not all that
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 6: type of stuff yeah that that and just how I
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 6: how you respond to those losing situations I would say
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 6: because it's easy like peach.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: And the cream when you win and everything is on.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 6: Top so just far as like how others treat people
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 6: but then how you treat people and yeah and how
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 6: you get treated as well too yeah.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 5: The why what matters to you now that didn't matter
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 5: at 23 and why did that.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 6: Change I would say family. They always mattered, but I
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 6: wasn't there. I was there physically, but not mentally because
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 6: I'm always could be there for a game and we
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 6: lose a game. Now I'm mad or, you know what
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 6: I'm saying? You just focusing on your craft. So really,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 6: really family and just living and appreciating every moment, which
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 6: I felt like I.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: Always did a good job.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 6: But it's even a bigger magnitude now, like traveling, making
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 6: the experiences, like that's the stuff that matter. And I
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 6: always kind of been like a people person, so seeing
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 6: like others happy as well too, for sure.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 5: And for the win, you've had the money, fame, awards, experiences,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 5: and things that only me, you, and T.O.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: Have probably ever experienced. What does winning in life mean
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: to you now?
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 6: Just the small, like, steps of, like, progress. You know,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 6: having those initial conversations, whether it's trying to get stuff done, like, obviously,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 6: you know, the Rams and, like, I'll give you a, example,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 6: like the Rams and the 49ers played in Australia, but
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 6: just prepping to go over there two, three years earlier
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 6: and just, like, setting up stuff that comes, you know,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 6: that comes later. But honestly, really, man, successes for me is,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 6: you know, obviously having my health, having my mental, you know,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 6: sharp where I'm able to, make the right decisions, but
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 6: then also, like, being around my family, you know what
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 6: I'm saying? Like, holiday season, you know, visiting my grandma,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 6: you know, my dad, like, still being able to appreciate
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 6: everybody that's still around, you know what I'm saying? And
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 6: then sometimes, you know, you don't see the family all
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 6: the time. Like, when I say the family, I'm saying, like,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 6: you know, if it was, like, Thanksgiving where it's just, like,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 6: everybody together, but, like, sadly is like enjoying that moment
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 6: at the time. And then you're like, the love is
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 6: always still there, you know, cause you can go a year,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 6: couple of months without talking to somebody. And for me,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 6: it's like, if we never talked to him, I think
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 6: we still good. Like, I still got, you know, still
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 6: got love for you. So from, from that standpoint, I
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 6: feel like that's, I don't know what the.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: Question was originally, but, yeah, that's how I feel, though,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: for real.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: That's great.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, Ty, you know a thing about getting the ball
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: into the end zone.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 4: Yes, sir. Pretty good at it.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You're in the red zone. You got four downs
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: to get the ball into the end zone. So I
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: got four questions for you. First down, what NFL moment
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: would you relive one more time? Let's see if we
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: can get you in the end zone.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 6: Shit, Greg Zerline making that kick. For me, though, yeah,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 6: it would be somebody else. It would be Greg Zerline
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 6: making that kick to get us to the Super Bowl.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 6: I know we didn't win it, and cool, I got there. But, yeah, like,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 6: to be able to go to a Super Bowl, like,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 6: I thought that was pretty cool.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: All right, second down. You ain't in there just yet.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: What is something you wish you had done differently?
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 6: Probably been more vocal. When I say vocal, like, get
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 6: your ass in there and give me the ball. You
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying? Or going to talk to coaches more.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: You know how I get more like him?
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: In between. In between. Pause. In between, yeah.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: God damn. Shots fired.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 6: They don't know if you don't tell them.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? They don't know if you
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: don't tell them.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Third down. We're going to give you third down.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: What do people misunderstand about Todd Gurley?
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 6: I don't know. Well, shit, now, I don't know.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: Maybe that may be something, yeah, I mean.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: Oh, why the hell I stopped playing football?
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 6: Like, shit. Yeah, why I stopped playing football? I mean,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 6: obviously my knee, but then also, like. You know, they're like, nah,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 6: that can't be it. You still got to... It's like, man,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 6: it don't matter what you say.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: Especially when they look at you physically. They're like, yo,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: you look perfect.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 6: But then I tell them that, I'm like, bro, you
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 6: know if I would have been done by now, I
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 6: would have been on like year 12. And they're like, oh, snaps.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 6: But it's because they probably know me from like the
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 6: start of my career too. Yeah, I guess they just
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 6: want to know why. I mean, I told them plenty
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 6: of times why they just.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: They didn't want to accept it.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: That is very true. That is very true.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 6: And then the standpoint is like, bro, we've been playing
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 6: since we was– Little kids, yeah.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: Literally, Pop Warner. So it's like– I didn't play Pop Warner.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 4: That's like 20-something.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: You played Pop Warner? No. I didn't play– I didn't
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: start playing really until like junior– like offensively, like high school,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: junior varsity. Yeah. I played junior high, but I was
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball. I played defensive end.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: Junior high, that's just seventh and eighth? Yep. 7th and
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: 8th grade. See, that's how I was. It's always defense and,
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying?
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: And he was a hooper, too.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I played, yep.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: Were you a hooper, too?
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: Man, funny story. I tried to quit football. Well, I
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: did quit football my freshman year to focus on basketball.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: But, yeah.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 4: I ended up coming back out and playing, though, like
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: halfway through the season.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: Great decision. Great decision.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: I definitely made a quick decision. Fourth down.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: We about to give it to you.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: Just take it on into the end zone, Todd.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: The question is... But Ty Gurley, what's next?
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 6: Still, just still living life. Still, you know, one of
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 6: my goals is always to travel pretty much every country.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 6: Before it's all said and done, I want to be,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 6: put my foot on everywhere around the world. travel, keep traveling.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what that, that's what those big paychecks, they'll
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: do for you.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 6: But that, but then strategically being able to do it
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 6: too as they grow the game globally.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: Right. Being able to be.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 6: The player that we was being able to use that
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 6: and then also as they go to these other markets
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 6: like strategically being able to partner with with different countries
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 6: um do business over there yeah and do business over
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 6: there take the influence but then you know once i
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 6: i go to a place so many times like when
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 6: i get that love you know i've been to hawaii
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 6: the last four years and Like, after I go so
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 6: many times, I feel like I got to do something
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 6: for the people over there, you know, philanthropy-wise. So, you know,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 6: a couple of curriculums coming up, you know, through the foundation,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 6: May Foundation, making a difference every day. Keep living life.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 6: Keep being a sports junkie. You know, keep people, you know, laughing.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 6: Keep myself in good health. Still, you know, keep working out.
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  Speaker 4: Keep eating good.
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  Speaker 6: Keep enjoying the fruits of my labor and just keep
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 6: building and growing as a man. And then, you know, obviously,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 6: you know, connection with your significant other and growing into
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 6: that as well. And then just keep being a good
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 6: dad as well. So there's so much, man. But I'm
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  Speaker 6: probably like a free spirit, so I don't think too
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  Speaker 6: much ahead in the future, but always... You know, planting
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 6: little seeds here and there and just wanting more and not,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 6: you know, getting too comfortable and complacent, which can be
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 6: a hard thing to do. But I try not to
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 6: be in my head too much because, you know, as humans,
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  Speaker 6: I feel like we always want more for ourselves. But
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  Speaker 6: then also, as you know, once you get done, what's next?
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  Speaker 4: What's next?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Thankfully and gratefully, I don't got to do nothing. God
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  Speaker 4: damn it. Because, you know what I'm saying? I already
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 4: won the lottery. I don't need to hit it again.
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  Speaker 2: Let everybody know where they can find you, what you
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: got going on.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: You can find me. Find me on social media. X
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 6: at TG3I, TG400 on Instagram. You can follow my new
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 6: food page. Oh, you got a new food? Well, because
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 6: I be traveling so much, my boys was like, yo,
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 6: you should start a food page.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you like food.
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  Speaker 4: I do like food.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 6: So, at Todd Grubbs, the travel experience page.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 4: Is going good.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, because you know you got like the other company.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 6: I can't say them because I'm with another company.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 4: Shout out DoorDash. I appreciate y'all.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 6: You can also follow my foundation page at officialmadefoundation.com or
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 6: on Instagram, officialmade. So, Official May Foundation, I would say. And, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: that's pretty much it. I ain't too hard to find.
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  Speaker 2: No, we know where you at.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 4: That ain't hard to find.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you a DT? Yeah, you a DT?
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: They know where you at.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I ain't too hard.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 6: If you don't see me around, you can see me
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 6: at the local Los Angeles sports games. You know, usually
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 6: at a bunch of Clippers, Lakers games, Kings games, some
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 6: Rams games. Chargers, depending on who they play. They play
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes. I'm going to go see
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 6: them play. But yeah, man, I'll be around traveling. You
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 6: might see me in the airport. You might see me
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 6: in another country.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 4: Who knows?
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: On a golf course.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: Well, man, we appreciate you.
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  Speaker 4: You'll see me. I appreciate y'all.
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• 1:28:12
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• 1:28:16
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• 1:28:18
  Speaker 5: And if it's on YouTube, G-T-T-P podcast. Thank you, Todd Gurley.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: This was great.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 4: Thank you. Appreciate y'all.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you, bro.