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Interview: T.I. Talks New Album 'Kill The King', Thoughts of Retiring, Upcoming Tour, BET Awards + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: I don't know every day waiting click your ass up
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Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 2: You know I'm finished for y'all. Done morning everybody.
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Speaker 3: It's the DJ Envy just hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We
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Speaker 3: are the Breakfast Club lawn, the roasters here as well.
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Speaker 4: We got a special guest in the building.
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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed we got.
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Speaker 5: The King t what's that? Then? How do you feel
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Speaker 5: it going down? Man? I'm sitting how y'all doing Less Black?
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Speaker 5: And you feel what I'm saying?
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Speaker 2: Kill the King's right? How do you feel? Man?
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Speaker 5: Why? Why? Why?
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Speaker 2: Everybody? One of the Why is it your final?
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Speaker 4: And it's this really your final album?
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Speaker 5: Yeah? What do you mean why?
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Speaker 6: I mean like it's time? Yeah, I mean I done?
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Speaker 6: Did this man? Dance this dance quite some time?
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Speaker 5: Man?
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Speaker 6: And uh, you know just remember you know where I
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Speaker 6: was as a kid man and request the songs on
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Speaker 6: the radio, waiting to see my favorite video, you know,
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Speaker 6: buying the source magazine, waiting to watch video music budget,
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Speaker 6: praying for opportunity to.
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Speaker 5: Be in their game.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean and man, going from that kid then
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Speaker 6: to to this man, now, I got everything I prayed for.
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Speaker 2: But you're still so good and I think in hip hop.
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Speaker 1: You know, especially when you see like you know, jay
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Speaker 1: Z or Scarface or not any of these guys that
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Speaker 1: are still so good.
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Speaker 2: You want to see how long they can keep it going. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: you've never seen that before.
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Speaker 6: I understand that may work for y'all. I mean, man,
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Speaker 6: Brad to be out of with you. Man, I think
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Speaker 6: about man, it's a kid somewhere right there in the
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Speaker 6: same position, man praying to be praying for their opportunity
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Speaker 6: you did.
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Speaker 5: And you know it's trying to, you know, like let
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Speaker 5: them get some you do.
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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, I can't ask for no
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Speaker 6: more than the game already gave.
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Speaker 7: Me, get singles, mixtapes.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Sure, I'm not saying ain't gonna make no music no more.
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Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
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Speaker 6: It could be uh, songs for soundtracks, you know, it
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Speaker 6: could be collaboration albums.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 6: Who know, bro, I just you know, I want to
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Speaker 6: focus my time on doing more film, television, real estate developments,
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Speaker 6: and you know, just other stuff.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 1: The song of Dope Boy with Gez two Chains t
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Speaker 1: pain very tough for No Boy Academy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what I was thinking, like, what is a dope
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Speaker 1: boy to ti in twenty twenty.
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Speaker 2: Uh, it's a memory. It's memory.
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Speaker 5: Now. I think I said that before though.
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Speaker 6: It's kind of like, Man, if you know, if you
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Speaker 6: were an alcoholic man and you spent twenty years of
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Speaker 6: your life drinking uncontrollably, and then you stopped in two thousand,
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Speaker 6: you did, you would still be able to tell me
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Speaker 6: today how it felt the last time you remember getting drunk,
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Speaker 6: the last time you threw up, the last time you know.
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Speaker 5: I'm saying you woke up with a hangover.
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Speaker 6: You you earned that testimony, and you have not just
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Speaker 6: a right, but you have an obligation to utilize that
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Speaker 6: testimony to help others, to let them know that it's
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Speaker 6: still the way at you know what I mean.
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Speaker 5: That's how I see, you know, dope boys and trap shit.
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Speaker 3: And I would say, you know, for the last ten years,
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Speaker 3: I would say, the older generation of music, the generation
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Speaker 3: before YouTube, I say, fought to get on radio right
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Speaker 3: because I felt like they always felt like after they
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Speaker 3: got to a certain level, radio pushed them off. But
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Speaker 3: I feel like now we're finally at a point where
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Speaker 3: people are loving music doesn't care if what age you
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Speaker 3: are or what generation you're from, and and and the
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Speaker 3: fact that your music still sounds good.
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Speaker 4: Like you think about it.
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Speaker 3: You just had a number one record a couple of
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Speaker 3: months ago, right, the next one's probably gonna go number one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you look at all this like you know what's try.
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Speaker 3: You look at you know, French Montana, you look at
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Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of some of the other artists clips,
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Speaker 3: some of the artists that were in the older generation
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Speaker 3: of making these number one right, there's a little behind
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Speaker 3: the Frenches in his forties, though he's behind Tip a
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Speaker 3: little bit, but he's still from that that that older eerror.
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Speaker 3: In my opinion, even with that happening now, that still
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Speaker 3: doesn't make you want to do more music because it's
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Speaker 3: it was such a fight.
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Speaker 4: But now it's like people are loving the music.
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Speaker 6: In a word, no, I mean, bro simply because I mean,
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Speaker 6: just think about man, the game has now become so saturated.
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Speaker 6: It's a thousand, if not tens of thousands of us
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Speaker 6: fighting for the same position. I've never been one that
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Speaker 6: wanted to do what everybody was doing, you know what
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Speaker 6: I mean. Back when I said I wanted to be
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Speaker 6: a rapper, it was actually you know, it was it
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Speaker 6: seemed like like something different to do you know back
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Speaker 6: when you know when I I guess in the nineties,
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Speaker 6: when I was telling teachers, man, this is what I
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Speaker 6: want to do with my life.
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Speaker 5: It's like, man, you think you're gonna be able to
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Speaker 5: do that? You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 6: And now you know, I can imagine if a kid
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Speaker 6: say he want to be a rapper, man another one,
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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So I just don't think
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Speaker 6: that it's not I just want to do something that
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Speaker 6: God blessed me with talents to do.
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Speaker 5: I want to use.
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Speaker 6: It for a unique position, for something that you know
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Speaker 6: every everybody can't do. And I feel like music is
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Speaker 6: something that is a lot of us trying to do.
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Speaker 5: So I'm gonna go try and do something else.
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Speaker 8: What about ta outside of the music artists?
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 9: Because when I listen to see what I'm saying, and
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Speaker 9: you're talking about the price of fame and it costs
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Speaker 9: too much and you want to change back, you got
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Speaker 9: too much, right, thank you. When I heard that line,
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Speaker 9: I was like, I wonder if he feels like there's
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Speaker 9: the weight, like it's tired. You just want to go
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Speaker 9: be a dad and go like just enjoy everything you've
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Speaker 9: worked for.
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Speaker 8: Now like is there some of that in there too?
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Speaker 5: Well?
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Speaker 6: I do think that, you know, when I say, like,
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Speaker 6: you know, the price of fame, I think that's that
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Speaker 6: that that line or that that consideration is tied to peace. Yeah,
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Speaker 6: you know what I mean, like peace of mind, bro,
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Speaker 6: Like you know, just to be honest with you, I
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Speaker 6: you know, I thank God for all of the blessings
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Speaker 6: and all of the support and everybody who I do.
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Speaker 6: You know what I mean, I really do appreciate it.
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Speaker 6: But like you know, I really do envy. I envy
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Speaker 6: the people that come up, you know, coding and doing technology.
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Speaker 6: They get biggings and they get to rad the subway.
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Speaker 5: And don't nobody know who they are.
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Speaker 6: I want a little bit of that too, you know
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Speaker 6: what I'm saying. I want to be I want to
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Speaker 6: be at peace, to enjoy mine a little bit.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 6: I do enjoy cooking breakfast for my daughter and you know,
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Speaker 6: picking up my grand baby from school. And you know
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Speaker 6: what I'm saying, I do enjoy that kind of stuff.
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Speaker 6: And those are those are the spoilers of life. That's
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Speaker 6: what we're working hard and busting our ass to enjoy. Anyway,
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Speaker 6: So why do all of this and none of that.
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Speaker 1: That's what the album feels like. You feel like this
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Speaker 1: is really Clifford Harris the Father.
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Speaker 2: I feel like you're having Harris do the intro get
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Speaker 2: mentioned a lot on the record.
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Speaker 1: You know, you got the n wont record about the Queen,
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Speaker 1: Like you just feel like it's very you, the person.
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Speaker 6: I think, man, that's the important part about it. I
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Speaker 6: think that's it's important to you know, kind of bear
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Speaker 6: our personality, you know, and exposing and kind of reveal
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Speaker 6: it to the people that care enough to listen to
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Speaker 6: the ship we put out. Yeah, I mean, I mean
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Speaker 6: it used to be a back kind of orchestrating. Uh
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Speaker 6: this this created persona, you know what I mean. But
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Speaker 6: now my fucking know who you is. No matter how
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Speaker 6: you fucking know who you is, man, no matter who
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Speaker 6: you try to be, I'm fuck gonna see who you is.
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Speaker 6: So you mad with agim net And that's you know,
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Speaker 6: I think that's the most important thing, just giving people
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Speaker 6: an honest reflection of who I am and how I live.
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Speaker 1: So with that said, what part of you had to
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Speaker 1: die for you to make an album called Kill the King?
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Speaker 2: What part of the Clifford Harris or something?
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Speaker 5: It's really the ego, like killing the king is about
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Speaker 5: killing the ego, you know what I mean. I think
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Speaker 5: that the King of the South as.
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Speaker 6: A monica that would created because you know, I just
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Speaker 6: couldn't afford to be ignored at the time.
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Speaker 5: You did what I'm saying.
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Speaker 6: I had to bring the most amount of attention to
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Speaker 6: myself if possible, and I got it. You did it,
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Speaker 6: and it came, you know, for many different reasons and
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Speaker 6: in many different ways.
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Speaker 5: Uh.
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Speaker 6: But but in earning that position and maintaining it, you know,
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Speaker 6: I just I just see that you know, to to
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Speaker 6: to have to be at peace with yourself, uh, is
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Speaker 6: more important than being in peace with the world. And
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Speaker 6: I think, you know, to be at peace with yourself,
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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, it's more important to kill
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Speaker 6: the ego.
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Speaker 3: How different is this run, especially this being independent for
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Speaker 3: you so you're doing everything yourself, you're paying for everything yourself. Man,
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Speaker 3: but you're winning. So how different is this run?
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Speaker 5: I mean, it feels different.
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Speaker 6: It feels different, and I think that you know, it's
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Speaker 6: it's it's important.
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Speaker 5: It's important to.
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Speaker 6: Me because for one, I think all the other times,
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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, I were doing it but
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Speaker 6: I was kind of checking by, so I was kind
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Speaker 6: of like sleepwalking a little bit, you know, just going
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Speaker 6: through the motion now.
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Speaker 5: Is in my paper is myself. I'm attentive, you know
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Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
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Speaker 6: I'm paying pretty attention to where the money going and
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Speaker 6: when they need to you know, when they need to
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Speaker 6: get out the hat and people are calling me to
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Speaker 6: get paid, you know, and so that's you know, that's
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Speaker 6: a that's a you know, it's just it's just a
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Speaker 6: different exercise.
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Speaker 5: And I'm enjoying it.
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Speaker 6: And I think that's another thing that is actually allowing
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Speaker 6: me to engage.
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Speaker 5: With the moment.
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Speaker 6: Because if it was just about me coming in here
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Speaker 6: and rapping and you know, doing the artist thing, I've
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Speaker 6: done that so many times, I probably you know, check out.
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Speaker 5: But you know, I think, you.
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Speaker 6: Know, playing both sides of the ball kind of allowing
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Speaker 6: me an opportunity to be excited.
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Speaker 3: What's one thing noticeably you cut out? Like you know
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Speaker 3: what I mean, if it is it taking ten people
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Speaker 3: with you, is it flying this way? Is and staying
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Speaker 3: at this hotel? What's now that you're paying? What's something noticeable?
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Speaker 2: I mean, you're not rich.
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure it out.
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Speaker 4: It's still expensive for sure.
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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, A bill is a bill.
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Speaker 5: I don't give a damn.
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Speaker 6: I rich you, I think, man, I think one thing
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Speaker 6: I cut out. I would like to think foolishness. You
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Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, unnecessary foolishness. I ain't really got
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Speaker 6: the patience for it no more.
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Speaker 5: You know, I just ain't. I don't tap into it.
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Speaker 6: You know, a lot of you know a lot, And
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Speaker 6: I can still see a lot of the people that
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Speaker 6: that that I still spend time around and talk to.
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Speaker 6: I can still see that they still kind of like
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Speaker 6: submerged in foolishness a little bit, you know, they still
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Speaker 6: be bothered by bullshit, and they get to talking to
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Speaker 6: me about it. I'm like, have a good day. I'm feeling, man,
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Speaker 6: I just ain't got time for it. It's so much,
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Speaker 6: so much more important shit to deal with in the
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Speaker 6: world that I ain't got time.
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Speaker 2: You said something earlier.
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Speaker 1: Man, When you kill your ego, do you also kill
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Speaker 1: the version of yourself that needed people I guess to
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Speaker 1: acknowledge your greatness, like the acknowledge your Yeah, uh, I
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Speaker 1: think you do?
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Speaker 6: You do you all that validation, all of that you know, uh,
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Speaker 6: get dying to be accepted, all of that, you know,
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Speaker 6: fighting to fit in.
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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, all of that, got it?
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Speaker 5: Go with it.
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Speaker 6: Because man, I know where my blessings come from.
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Speaker 5: Man Ain't no human being put me here. You feel me.
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Speaker 6: So I'm just gonna continue to to you know, just
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Speaker 6: just be a vessel for God and allow God to
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Speaker 6: got my footsteps and continue to walk in their path.
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Speaker 5: And uh and I'm gonna go wherever that take me.
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Speaker 1: Do you do you remember the moment when you felt
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Speaker 1: like you arrived, like when you I'm really here?
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Speaker 5: Uh man.
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Speaker 6: Nah, nah, Probably when I got home from prison. Man,
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Speaker 6: I mean that's that those moments and more those are
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Speaker 6: the more. I think that's like where all of the
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Speaker 6: epiphany and like the the consciousness came came from. When
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Speaker 6: I was just out here, half in my way, just
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Speaker 6: doing well as an artist. Before I had like you know,
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Speaker 6: real obstacles and and and and real like tumultuous situation
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Speaker 6: to overcome. I didn't really care about much. It was
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Speaker 6: just all about chart positioning and selling records in the
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Speaker 6: first week and then then who's gonna headline the tour?
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Speaker 6: Is the presidential suite available and why we're not flying private?
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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like that's that's it, That's
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Speaker 6: all they were for real and then you know, you
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Speaker 6: catch a casion you got damn, and then you you know,
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Speaker 6: you you go back to prison like it's like damn,
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Speaker 6: Like this is the ship that really matters.
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Speaker 5: I remember, like you know what I'm saying. I was.
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Speaker 6: I was locked up one time and I was just
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Speaker 6: thinking about how I used to go. I used to
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Speaker 6: how I used to got and go off on Clay.
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Speaker 6: Me and Clay used to fall out. Yeah, man, long
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Speaker 6: let o g Clay. We used to fall out when
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Speaker 6: you know when it when the sweet I wanted wasn't available.
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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like if if it's a
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Speaker 6: we at the if we're at the awards, and you
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Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, I got to be in the
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Speaker 6: hotel for from Thursday to Monday and got and it
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Speaker 6: ain't the sweet that I want, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 6: And we will fall out, man, I told you, and
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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. Or if the first class,
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Speaker 6: if I had to if I missed my flight, but
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Speaker 6: I still got to make the show and I had
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Speaker 6: to fly, but I ain't had no more first class.
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Speaker 5: Team, and I'd be pissed out. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 6: I just and I I remember being I remember being
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Speaker 6: in prison. I would walk into yard and I would
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Speaker 6: tell him upon I say, man, do you know how
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Speaker 6: much I give for a middle seat?
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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? Uh? And that's it. Just
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Speaker 5: put things in perspective for you, man. But does that
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Speaker 5: still ball you though?
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Speaker 4: Like if you missed the flight and you had to
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Speaker 4: do what.
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Speaker 5: You Yeah, it still pissed me out. But I do it. Man.
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Speaker 6: Man, Look I flew southwest God oh hell yeah yeah
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Speaker 6: I did.
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Speaker 5: Hey, look all right, so look my partner data my
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Speaker 5: part of data sheet. She she got married.
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Speaker 6: She got married at San Francisco, and it was very important,
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Speaker 6: you know, to her for me to be there, and
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Speaker 6: very poor for me to be there.
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Speaker 5: Fuck.
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Speaker 6: So you know, but I had a show in Arizona.
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Speaker 6: I had a show in Arizona the same day. Now,
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Speaker 6: then they had told me about a wedding a year
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Speaker 6: in advance and told me to say the day, and
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Speaker 6: I did. But then you know what I'm saying. The
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Speaker 6: one hundred thousand dollars came in in Arizona. I'm like, damn,
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Speaker 6: you know, I got to get this money. So I'm
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Speaker 6: gonna come to the wedding. I'm gonna have to leave
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Speaker 6: a little early. And I'm but you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 6: I got a jit. So after you say I do
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Speaker 6: do your toast, I'm gonna get on the jet. I'm
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Speaker 6: a slide. So but and and to add to that,
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Speaker 6: we were coming from London, if I ain't mistaken, So
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Speaker 6: me and my me and my old lady, we fly
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Speaker 6: from London in the San Francis.
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Speaker 5: I have my guy meet me Haidiaki. I have him
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Speaker 5: meet me with my with my tucks and whatever.
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Speaker 6: And I told her to just bring me, you know
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Speaker 6: whatever tucks was cleaning that that I ain't wore yet,
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Speaker 6: And it just happened to be a white velvet jacket,
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Speaker 6: uh with a black bow tie like real James Bond tape.
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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying with do you know what
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Speaker 6: I'm saying with the with the with the black flair
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Speaker 6: bell bottom pant man. You know what I'm saying that
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Speaker 6: my chelseas and I had that on. My old lady
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Speaker 6: put put her her clothes on. We met back up
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Speaker 6: in the elevator, and so we in the elevator going down.
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Speaker 5: She say, you know you don't well white till nobody's wet.
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Speaker 5: That's bad. Look I said, man, I don't care about that. Man,
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Speaker 5: I'm clean. I'm clean. So we sit down, they going
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Speaker 5: through their nupt shoes and stuff. And she looked at me.
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Speaker 5: She said, I cannot believe you wore white to these
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Speaker 5: people's wear. And I say, would you leave me alone?
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Speaker 6: I'm trying to enjoy nuptials, and and uh, and here
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Speaker 6: it is they you know, she said, I do, and
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Speaker 6: everything and taking pictures and she just my wife's just
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Speaker 6: stead of shaking her head at me, telling you have
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Speaker 6: much bad lucky here. And then the phone ring and
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Speaker 6: I said hello, and they say, hey, we have a problem.
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Speaker 5: The jet is no longer available. No longer available. We
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Speaker 5: have mechanical issues. I say, but you have to find
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Speaker 5: me another one. And they're like, okay, we'll try to
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Speaker 5: see what we do.
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Speaker 6: Now here it is is about an hour and a
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Speaker 6: half till I'm supposed to be headed to the plane.
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Speaker 6: So now I have to find me a plane in
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Speaker 6: an hour and a half, all right, so you know it.
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Speaker 6: So now while all that's going on. You know, nobody
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Speaker 6: knows this. I started telling people one at a time.
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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. I lean over, I tell
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Speaker 6: the dream. I said, hey, man, I need to find
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Speaker 6: a jet. Man about forty five minutes and so you know,
16:35
Speaker 6: people start buzzing around to tell guys it, you know,
16:38
Speaker 6: and not everybody is knowing that I need a jet.
16:41
Speaker 6: So finally my partner Neil say, hey, I ain't got
16:45
Speaker 6: no jet, but it's a southwest flight.
16:47
Speaker 5: Lead want to get down.
16:51
Speaker 6: It's a southwest flight to lead man, long story, shut man.
16:55
Speaker 6: I end up in my white velvet, taking my.
17:00
Speaker 5: Jacket off, going through t s, go to Southwest, going.
17:04
Speaker 2: To Southwest Independent.
17:07
Speaker 6: As soon as I get in the south Wines, I
17:09
Speaker 6: get to the gate, they say, oh, well, you're obviously
17:12
Speaker 6: the most important person here. And they say, well, let's
17:16
Speaker 6: let's clear out the front row for him, please.
17:19
Speaker 5: And when we so, me and my wife sit down on.
17:23
Speaker 6: The first road of Southwest while everybody and she.
17:30
Speaker 5: Looked at me.
17:31
Speaker 6: She say, I told you it was bad, but but
17:36
Speaker 6: I had to go get that money.
17:39
Speaker 5: To get that.
17:42
Speaker 2: KP is k just the beginning, KP. Do you remember
17:45
Speaker 2: the moment you felt like he arrived. That was paper trail.
17:51
Speaker 5: Wow. Yeah yeah, m hm.
18:01
Speaker 2: Was that a moment That was a moment though, because
18:03
Speaker 2: I guess.
18:03
Speaker 5: Yeah it was.
18:04
Speaker 6: It was definitely Jay Wayne Yay myself in my it
18:09
Speaker 6: was definitely moment, A huge moment man, A blessing. And
18:13
Speaker 6: I appreciate you know the guys who were there on
18:16
Speaker 6: that record with me.
18:17
Speaker 5: Uh and you know.
18:18
Speaker 6: Who actually uh contributed, you know they they they they
18:23
Speaker 6: greatness for my you know, for my project.
18:26
Speaker 5: Man, I appreciate.
18:27
Speaker 6: That performed, performed that the Grammys one the Grammy.
18:33
Speaker 5: It was a moment back.
18:35
Speaker 7: Down to the head cut what they cutting off your
18:37
Speaker 7: locks do for you mentally, because when you cut off locks,
18:40
Speaker 7: it's the whole thing.
18:43
Speaker 5: For real. It really didn't you just wanted to nah man,
18:46
Speaker 5: it was really back man. Okay.
18:48
Speaker 6: So I know that if I'm if I'm putting that
18:50
Speaker 6: music and I'm putting on an album and I'm saying
18:52
Speaker 6: this my last album, you kind of get back to
18:55
Speaker 6: the brand that people know and love and what what
18:58
Speaker 6: they what they used to.
19:00
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna.
19:01
Speaker 6: Try to you know what I'm saying, serve you a
19:03
Speaker 6: different a different product. If I plan on doing well
19:09
Speaker 6: at it, so I just knew when it was time
19:12
Speaker 6: to put music out, they couldn't have had would be
19:13
Speaker 6: a part of the process. I didn't know the document,
19:17
Speaker 6: and you know what I'm saying, to present it to
19:19
Speaker 6: the world would be such a big deal.
19:20
Speaker 2: Well, a lot of people thought it was because you
19:22
Speaker 2: had that moment.
19:23
Speaker 1: Where they had that video out with that was a.
19:30
Speaker 4: I would still be if that picture was.
19:33
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying that you know.
19:37
Speaker 9: What they thought that that was like it went online?
19:41
Speaker 9: How do you miss this all this time?
19:42
Speaker 6: It was funny, man, It was funny to me, but
19:45
Speaker 6: it just showed me how stupid people. But if they
19:48
Speaker 6: believe that, then you know what I'm saying, we can
19:50
Speaker 6: get them to believe a lot more stuff. Just imagine
19:52
Speaker 6: what the government got them believed.
19:54
Speaker 5: They believe that the funny you do.
19:55
Speaker 2: Why would y'all think y'all would take his hat off
19:57
Speaker 2: and come on.
20:00
Speaker 5: Don't even know what he bought.
20:02
Speaker 9: Like people thought like, are you in a moment you
20:03
Speaker 9: had the show, You're feeling good.
20:07
Speaker 5: Except for thinking this ship is not really.
20:11
Speaker 6: Before they think that no good, damn, well, this man
20:15
Speaker 6: has a plethora of hats he could well, you know,
20:19
Speaker 6: and they think that this would be the time. You know.
20:24
Speaker 3: Also, you talk about the first time you felt like
20:27
Speaker 3: money couldn't help you when you're saying that when Clay passed,
20:31
Speaker 3: break that down because a lot of people always think
20:33
Speaker 3: when you're rich, you can do whatever you want.
20:35
Speaker 5: But sometimes it's I didn't say I felt like.
20:38
Speaker 6: I didn't say that that was the first time I
20:40
Speaker 6: felt that money couldn't help me.
20:42
Speaker 5: I didn't say that. I did make mention of the fact,
20:45
Speaker 5: you know that I had money and it didn't help,
20:48
Speaker 5: but that wasn't the first time. But I mean, you know,
20:53
Speaker 5: we do all that's a part of that ego though,
20:55
Speaker 5: that's a part of ego, us feeling like, you know,
20:58
Speaker 5: we have you know, know more things and we've done
21:02
Speaker 5: more in life, and when we face tragedies, the first
21:06
Speaker 5: thing we do is try and lean on that paper.
21:09
Speaker 6: And when that paper is like, nah, but By'm not
21:11
Speaker 6: even shit I can do, you know what I'm saying,
21:13
Speaker 6: that shit is like, it's like, damn, I'm broke again,
21:17
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.
21:18
Speaker 5: And that's you know.
21:19
Speaker 6: That's just a realization that everybody, all of us got
21:21
Speaker 6: to come to all of us got to come to
21:23
Speaker 6: it at some point in time that was, you know,
21:27
Speaker 6: just a moment that I experienced and I felt and
21:29
Speaker 6: I just you know, it just came through the music
21:32
Speaker 6: because you know it was it was memorable.
21:36
Speaker 1: You know when you record now, like you know, you
21:37
Speaker 1: mentioned your son's a lot on the album.
21:39
Speaker 2: They're all grown men.
21:40
Speaker 1: Now what's the biggest lesson they've taught you about yourself?
21:43
Speaker 5: Oh?
21:45
Speaker 6: I mean, I just I see reflections of myself through them,
21:50
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. I think I I do
21:53
Speaker 6: see parts of my personality in all of them. You
21:58
Speaker 6: know that I don't expect to see times. I don't
22:00
Speaker 6: expect to see it. But I'm extremely proud of them, man.
22:03
Speaker 6: And when I look at them as much as I
22:06
Speaker 6: see me, I don't think about me, you know, I
22:09
Speaker 6: just think about how proud I am with you know
22:12
Speaker 6: what I mean.
22:13
Speaker 5: So that's a good thing.
22:14
Speaker 7: Do you ever get emotional when you reflect on where
22:16
Speaker 7: you came from versus where you are now?
22:19
Speaker 5: Sometimes? Yeah?
22:21
Speaker 6: Sometimes, man, I just remember how much I remember how
22:25
Speaker 6: much I expected to die, you know, I just I
22:29
Speaker 6: expected not to live like the twenty twenty five. You know,
22:33
Speaker 6: first of with twenty one, you know, with twenty five,
22:36
Speaker 6: and you know, now here I am forty five, you know,
22:39
Speaker 6: and it's just a blessing to be here.
22:42
Speaker 5: And one think about it. I never planned don't being
22:44
Speaker 5: as old. You know what I'm saying. I don't know
22:47
Speaker 5: what to do with myself. I never planned on being,
22:50
Speaker 5: you know, a forty five year old man. I've always
22:54
Speaker 5: acted like a little old man. When I was young,
22:56
Speaker 5: I always acted like a little old man. But now
22:58
Speaker 5: that I'm actually older, I don't. You know what I'm saying,
23:02
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't. I don't really I should have
23:04
Speaker 5: made a list.
23:05
Speaker 2: Is that what?
23:05
Speaker 9: The urge to just be at peace and just kind
23:07
Speaker 9: of like explore things comes from you. Yeah, it's like
23:09
Speaker 9: you in a new school all over.
23:10
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. I enjoyed golfing, you know what I'm saying.
23:13
Speaker 6: I like the golf. I like to go boating, you
23:16
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. Just go at on a boat
23:18
Speaker 6: and just just kick it for like shit, like eight
23:22
Speaker 6: hours at today and just cool lot, you know.
23:25
Speaker 5: I like.
23:25
Speaker 6: I like doing like little ship like that that I
23:27
Speaker 6: never really really got to do when I was running
23:30
Speaker 6: the streets and like you know, hustling and doing other
23:33
Speaker 6: shit that just kept me from being able to enjoy
23:37
Speaker 6: you know, some real like peaceful shit in life.
23:40
Speaker 2: Why did that never reflect in your music?
23:42
Speaker 1: Because you know, you got certain artists like a tupac Ca,
23:45
Speaker 1: you know, even a big and certain ways they would
23:47
Speaker 1: rap about death in there in their untimely demid Why
23:50
Speaker 1: didn't that never really reflected in your music?
23:52
Speaker 5: Because I saw what it did for them, and I
23:54
Speaker 5: never wanted I didn't want that for myself. I did.
23:57
Speaker 5: I didn't say I wanted to die like ever motherfucker
23:59
Speaker 5: they said they want did that. I didn't want to die.
24:01
Speaker 6: I just I just I just was so close to
24:04
Speaker 6: it that I thought it's only it's only a matter
24:07
Speaker 6: of time before, you know, but due to the grace
24:10
Speaker 6: of God. And I also saying my music, you know
24:12
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, it could be any day. But God told,
24:15
Speaker 6: God told me I'm gonna live long enough to do
24:17
Speaker 6: what he got me here to do. And so ship
24:20
Speaker 6: that's how I feel about it. You know, it's there's
24:23
Speaker 6: a purpose when when God has a purpose for you
24:25
Speaker 6: in your life, Man, you're gonna live long enough to
24:28
Speaker 6: fulfill that purpose, whether you like it or not.
24:30
Speaker 2: On rent, you say, while I'm living, you better you
24:33
Speaker 2: better cherish me.
24:34
Speaker 5: Yeah, do you do you feel that you've.
24:36
Speaker 2: Been honored and respected the way you should have been.
24:39
Speaker 6: No, I don't mean cherish me for for my like
24:42
Speaker 6: for me, I mean cherish me for you. You know
24:44
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, because you ain't gonna see no ship
24:46
Speaker 6: like this after I'm gone.
24:58
Speaker 9: But that's why people don't want you to kill the
24:59
Speaker 9: king right there. And it's very effortless too. Like when
25:03
Speaker 9: you in the beginning of the hour, when you talk
25:05
Speaker 9: about putting yourself in there, you need to be putting
25:07
Speaker 9: a Smithsonian.
25:07
Speaker 8: I was like, yeah, say that, like.
25:09
Speaker 5: People don't.
25:11
Speaker 9: I think the energy that you come with as t
25:13
Speaker 9: I I think that's people don't want that to go away.
25:16
Speaker 9: So I can understand people want you to continue to
25:18
Speaker 9: make music. But do you feel like, in the second
25:22
Speaker 9: round of life that you're about to step into, will
25:24
Speaker 9: you be doing more things that kind of like archive
25:26
Speaker 9: those things that you're.
25:27
Speaker 6: Talking about for people, film, you know, I think film, television,
25:33
Speaker 6: you know, curating experiences you feel me, I think that,
25:39
Speaker 6: you know, like like I'm reimagining the Trap City Cafe
25:45
Speaker 6: right now. We're we're we're reopening very soon and it's
25:51
Speaker 6: all about creating an experience for somebody when they walk
25:55
Speaker 6: in there and what they're gonna what they're gonna feel,
25:58
Speaker 6: what they're gonna see, you know what I mean, hask
26:01
Speaker 6: On Schmel you know what I'm saying, Like all that
26:03
Speaker 6: those types of things, Uh, curating those moments for people,
26:08
Speaker 6: I feel like it's just as important as creating a
26:11
Speaker 6: dope song, you know what I mean. The Trap Music Museum,
26:15
Speaker 6: you know, like like like sharing those things with the
26:18
Speaker 6: world that that that only I can present because of
26:23
Speaker 6: my experiences and the things that I've endured in life.
26:28
Speaker 6: I think you can do that. And you know, I
26:30
Speaker 6: think Charlamagne, you do it with your books. You know
26:32
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, You can also do it in literary pieces.
26:37
Speaker 5: Uh we we We are also working on.
26:43
Speaker 6: Uh some more family contents called Royal Absurdities. So it's
26:51
Speaker 6: it's basically an extension or I ain't gonna say an extension,
26:53
Speaker 6: but it's it's a reimagination of family hustle, you know
26:57
Speaker 6: what I.
26:57
Speaker 5: Mean, Like with King and the Honey doing one.
27:01
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's kind of like that's a I thought that
27:04
Speaker 9: that was like giving us like a little teaser roll
27:07
Speaker 9: out to something that was going to come back because
27:09
Speaker 9: it's very consistent.
27:11
Speaker 5: It is.
27:11
Speaker 8: It's very effortless, but y'all are very on time.
27:14
Speaker 6: But it's very independent. So it's not going to be
27:16
Speaker 6: like you know, it's gonna be different.
27:20
Speaker 8: It's gonna be placed differently. Yeah, stream up, Yeah, on
27:25
Speaker 8: streaming platforms.
27:25
Speaker 6: It's different. You know what I'm saying, we're working on
27:28
Speaker 6: It ain't no telling where it might be at. Man,
27:31
Speaker 6: it might it might end up. You know, I've been
27:33
Speaker 6: talking to cut your Way and trying to get you know,
27:35
Speaker 6: get his secret.
27:36
Speaker 5: Soult, trying to beat out out his blueprint. It might
27:40
Speaker 5: be on Facebook and YouTube. Who knows.
27:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, what you said about Trap City Cafe is interesting
27:46
Speaker 1: because I feel like even with the Trap Museum, you
27:48
Speaker 1: wanted the people that's trying to preserve Atlanta. So people
27:52
Speaker 1: that have heard these stories about Atlanta and come to
27:55
Speaker 1: Atlanta and see what Atlanta.
27:57
Speaker 2: Was really really about.
27:59
Speaker 5: But that where the money comes from, That where you
28:01
Speaker 5: get the money from. You know what I'm saying.
28:03
Speaker 6: People who heard by something and want to come and
28:04
Speaker 6: experience it. If you can capture that moment that they
28:08
Speaker 6: heard about and that that that made them want to
28:11
Speaker 6: travel to this place. If you can offer them a
28:14
Speaker 6: piece of that experience. That's what they pay you for.
28:18
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's yeah that I am one of the
28:22
Speaker 6: people that want to preserve I want to preserve the
28:25
Speaker 6: experience of Atlanta.
28:27
Speaker 1: What are you younger Atlanta artists misunderstand about, like what
28:30
Speaker 1: your era had to fight for.
28:32
Speaker 5: I don't know, you have to ask them.
28:34
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't think we see Atlanta as
28:37
Speaker 1: the center of hip hop. The other time, Atlanta wasn't
28:40
Speaker 1: getting that type of respect at all.
28:42
Speaker 5: Absolutely. I mean, man, there was a time and that
28:48
Speaker 5: time has passed. You know.
28:53
Speaker 6: I'm thankful man that that the that the trail was
28:57
Speaker 6: blazed and you know and paid for me by people
29:02
Speaker 6: you know, like like Big and dre and and Goody
29:06
Speaker 6: and UGK, eight Ball, m J Scarfey, you know what
29:11
Speaker 6: I mean, J Prince, like all those people man, uh,
29:15
Speaker 6: you know, master P and Baby and Schlim, all those
29:19
Speaker 6: people that laid the foundation and made a way for
29:22
Speaker 6: us to be able to come follow behind and do
29:25
Speaker 6: our thing and add on to it. You know, it
29:29
Speaker 6: make us feel good to see, you know, people like
29:33
Speaker 6: Thug and Savage and Future and even uh you know,
29:37
Speaker 6: Belly Gang, Cush and you know, all those people right
29:40
Speaker 6: now man and doing their thing, man and having their
29:43
Speaker 6: way love to see it, you know what I'm saying.
29:46
Speaker 6: And it's gonna be another generation after that. The shit
29:49
Speaker 6: gonna keep going.
29:50
Speaker 2: Does the South still have a king? Or as a
29:51
Speaker 2: coaching move past that conversation.
29:53
Speaker 5: I don't know, man.
29:54
Speaker 6: I think it's about who cares enough to really participate
29:59
Speaker 6: in all of the necessary actions that it takes to
30:04
Speaker 6: maintain that title.
30:06
Speaker 5: Like you know, I.
30:07
Speaker 6: Learned that the crown it ain't it ain't just about
30:12
Speaker 6: celebrating you.
30:13
Speaker 5: Crown ain't about celebrating you. The crown is about service.
30:17
Speaker 5: Crown is about what are you willing to do to
30:20
Speaker 5: service the people that you say that you represent, you
30:24
Speaker 5: know what I mean? And who cares enough to step
30:28
Speaker 5: into that position? You know what I mean? Who cares
30:31
Speaker 5: enough about the people to step into that position and
30:34
Speaker 5: service them? You know what I mean. I don't know.
30:37
Speaker 3: That's a difficulty, especially when it is played into it
30:39
Speaker 3: right because you think about when you came up. Of
30:42
Speaker 3: course you cared about money, but it was more about
30:44
Speaker 3: being the best. Right now, it's you know, these young
30:48
Speaker 3: artists get one hundred and fifty thousand dollars to do
30:51
Speaker 3: these these festivals.
30:53
Speaker 4: It's kind of it's kind of.
30:57
Speaker 5: A lot more money back then. That's true. I mean,
31:00
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean it's money, but it ain't It
31:01
Speaker 5: ain't a whole lot of money right now, you know
31:03
Speaker 5: what I'm saying?
31:05
Speaker 2: Uh?
31:05
Speaker 5: Could could they also spending? Man?
31:09
Speaker 6: I hear you, bro, But these bills coming in? Man,
31:16
Speaker 6: that money that man, the bill coming in tremendously.
31:19
Speaker 5: Uh. I think, man, you know what are you going
31:24
Speaker 5: to do with that money?
31:26
Speaker 6: Like? How much are they spending on redeveloping the community.
31:30
Speaker 6: How much are they spending on pouring back into the
31:34
Speaker 6: people that poured into them? Like, I think those are
31:37
Speaker 6: the things that matter more than how much money is
31:40
Speaker 6: coming in, you know what I mean? And what which
31:45
Speaker 6: of the artists are are are willing or going to
31:49
Speaker 6: make themselves available to be of service to the people.
31:53
Speaker 5: And that's what that's what that's what's gonna make them came.
31:56
Speaker 5: You know.
31:56
Speaker 1: Another interesting thing on the album is that the end
31:58
Speaker 1: of end, won't you guys one? Some people talking it's
32:02
Speaker 1: k okay.
32:05
Speaker 2: And they're saying saying, your wife never went to jail
32:07
Speaker 2: and till she met you, did you always blame yourself
32:12
Speaker 2: for that.
32:13
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I mean, you know what I'm saying. It's
32:17
Speaker 5: it's it's it's a notion, you know what I'm saying.
32:20
Speaker 6: It's a thought, it's a thought. You know, it's a
32:22
Speaker 6: lot of other things. She ain't dead till she met
32:24
Speaker 6: me too, though, what.
32:27
Speaker 5: Did you want to say that? Though? Like I didn't
32:29
Speaker 5: just k dub Bro in the studio, Yeah I did.
32:33
Speaker 5: I just think.
32:34
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, it's truth. It's truth, it's honest.
32:37
Speaker 6: It's a vulnerable moment. I feel like it's noteworthy, you
32:41
Speaker 6: know what I mean. It's some ship I never would
32:42
Speaker 6: have said, but when he said it, I laughed. It
32:45
Speaker 6: was like, oh, people might care to hear that, So
32:47
Speaker 6: I kept it.
32:48
Speaker 9: But a king, the queen, it's a part of it's
32:50
Speaker 9: a part of the experience that you had in that area.
32:52
Speaker 5: Yeah, testimony, Bro. I feel like the hardships, the obstacles
32:58
Speaker 5: you overcome, the you know, the tragedy has become just
33:02
Speaker 5: as important as the triumphs, you know what I mean.
33:04
Speaker 5: And if you.
33:05
Speaker 6: Only telling one side of the story, that they're not
33:07
Speaker 6: gonna read the whole book. You feel what I'm saying.
33:10
Speaker 6: So I just want to make sure that that did.
33:13
Speaker 6: I put enough of both sides out there for all
33:16
Speaker 6: that ship, you know what I'm saying, to tie into
33:17
Speaker 6: each other and remain interesting.
33:20
Speaker 8: About this being the last album.
33:23
Speaker 5: I don't think she. I ain't asked her. I don't know.
33:27
Speaker 5: I don't know, man. I think she.
33:29
Speaker 9: Seems like the like the manager behind all of y'all,
33:31
Speaker 9: like making it move because.
33:33
Speaker 6: It could be one or two on the road or
33:36
Speaker 6: the money.
33:39
Speaker 5: I think now she she she always like hate.
33:44
Speaker 6: I would say hate, but she she questions every time
33:48
Speaker 6: I have to leave the house, like what you're leaving
33:49
Speaker 6: for now?
33:50
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
33:51
Speaker 6: Uh So, I think if I leave the house less,
33:55
Speaker 6: which I'm not saying that I will be leaving the house,
33:58
Speaker 6: but if I leave the house less, I think that,
34:01
Speaker 6: you know, that would be in her bit like she
34:03
Speaker 6: she'd appreciate that.
34:04
Speaker 9: What things are you guys getting to rediscover about each
34:07
Speaker 9: other in this era of your life as you're like
34:09
Speaker 9: starting to do things like that like the house lesson
34:11
Speaker 9: I see all on all the vacations, and y'all are
34:13
Speaker 9: sharing that with us.
34:14
Speaker 6: Now, Yeah, I ain't thought about it. I don't really
34:16
Speaker 6: do a lot of you know what I'm saying, I
34:18
Speaker 6: don't do a lot of reflecting. Man, I don't think
34:20
Speaker 6: about stuff like that. So somebody like you asked me,
34:23
Speaker 6: I ain't. I don't know, man, I just know that
34:29
Speaker 6: you know, every day I enjoy spending time with her,
34:34
Speaker 6: and you know, she says she enjoyed spending time with me,
34:37
Speaker 6: And I think, I just keep yourself on and leave
34:39
Speaker 6: it there.
34:40
Speaker 5: You know what I mean. I don't really dig too
34:43
Speaker 5: deep and get into the minutia of of of why
34:47
Speaker 5: so much?
34:47
Speaker 4: What do you enjoy now that.
34:49
Speaker 2: This album regular absolutely.
34:53
Speaker 8: Like very reflect.
34:57
Speaker 5: One of them. Yeah, Gorgeous is a dope ad record, bro,
35:00
Speaker 5: Gorgeous is a record that Trinidad Jane gave me. That record.
35:05
Speaker 6: Trinidad Jane pulled up and gave me that record. But
35:10
Speaker 6: I don't think that I think about those things. Like,
35:14
Speaker 6: for instance, if we're sitting here having a conversation, I
35:18
Speaker 6: would not say in conversation all of the things.
35:21
Speaker 5: That I said in Gorgeous. You know what I'm saying.
35:24
Speaker 6: But when the song comes and I'm thinking about how
35:27
Speaker 6: to make the best song, now, all of these things
35:31
Speaker 6: that I would not say in conversation come to mind.
35:34
Speaker 6: You feel what I'm saying, so it pulls a part
35:38
Speaker 6: of my consciousness out that that don't exist without the music.
35:43
Speaker 3: You talked about your your daughter and your grand and
35:45
Speaker 3: your grandchild, right, and I was thinking grandchildren, grandchildren. I
35:50
Speaker 3: was thinking, what do you enjoy to do that you
35:53
Speaker 3: weren't able to do? Like, for instance, I had to
35:54
Speaker 3: do a project with my daughter. Usually I'm always on
35:57
Speaker 3: the road, right, but I'm not slowed down. And with
36:00
Speaker 3: these younger ones, I get to see the more I
36:02
Speaker 3: was like, Damn, my wife had to do this all
36:04
Speaker 3: this time. There's something that you have to do that like, Damn,
36:07
Speaker 3: I never had.
36:07
Speaker 5: To do that before I had to do man.
36:12
Speaker 6: I mean I was always kind of like there with
36:14
Speaker 6: the homework and mean the kid would rather I help
36:17
Speaker 6: them with their homework than to me. Why she don't
36:21
Speaker 6: got no patience?
36:22
Speaker 1: Manilling the English?
36:26
Speaker 2: I think?
36:28
Speaker 6: You know, I think for me, I use my words,
36:33
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying to me to get frustrated.
36:35
Speaker 5: You know, can't you see what that is? You know
36:38
Speaker 5: she do that type shit, but I can't.
36:45
Speaker 6: I think, cook, cook, It's something that I probably do
36:49
Speaker 6: more now than I did before. You know what I'm saying,
36:52
Speaker 6: Like they'll come like you know, they they come to
36:56
Speaker 6: me and asked me to cook cook eggs for some reason.
36:59
Speaker 6: But now didn't my daughter heirs she cooking eggs. Now
37:02
Speaker 6: she don't come ask me no more.
37:04
Speaker 7: I love.
37:07
Speaker 5: Cooking eggs myself. She cooks eggs. Yeah, she can shramble
37:11
Speaker 5: some eggs.
37:11
Speaker 2: What role you think is humble? You the most father
37:14
Speaker 2: of grandfather?
37:17
Speaker 5: Uh man? I think I think they both equally.
37:24
Speaker 6: They are equally humbling, because especially when you're doing them
37:29
Speaker 6: at the same time. You know, So, I got a
37:32
Speaker 6: daughter this you know ten, and I got a granddaughter
37:37
Speaker 6: this five, you know what I mean. And you know
37:40
Speaker 6: another granddaughter that is like three months. So I think
37:46
Speaker 6: that when you, you know, managing all of these developing
37:52
Speaker 6: personalities and you witnessing all of this growth, it shows
37:58
Speaker 6: you so much about yourself, you know what I mean.
38:01
Speaker 6: And if you if you stop and care enough, care
38:05
Speaker 6: enough to notice, but it does it does give you
38:08
Speaker 6: an opportunity to look within a lot.
38:12
Speaker 5: So and I appreciate that.
38:13
Speaker 7: Do them grandkids get away with things that the kids didn't,
38:17
Speaker 7: That's always an argument.
38:20
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna get up here and you know and
38:23
Speaker 6: give you that. You gotta talk to them for that
38:25
Speaker 6: I'm not feeling. I mean, I think that all.
38:29
Speaker 5: Kids should get grace.
38:31
Speaker 6: I feel like man, because you know, people always say
38:36
Speaker 6: that kids are.
38:37
Speaker 5: Bad, you know, but yeah, the kids ain't bad. Ain't
38:40
Speaker 5: not wrong with them, damn kids. Some I'm wrong with
38:43
Speaker 5: the adults. That's expecting the kids to already know the
38:47
Speaker 5: right thing to do. They haven't been instructed on the
38:50
Speaker 5: right thing to do. It's it.
38:52
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You still acting to
38:54
Speaker 6: ask how you expect them to.
38:56
Speaker 5: Know what to do? Yeah, so that's how. That's how
38:59
Speaker 5: I can area.
39:00
Speaker 7: They say in my city it takes a village to
39:02
Speaker 7: raise a child. But what if the village is retarded?
39:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm from.
39:10
Speaker 5: It makes perfect now my grandbaby, my grandbaby is our
39:19
Speaker 5: father from Baltimore. Oh yeah, absolutely.
39:23
Speaker 1: I do wonder if killing the king? Are you killing
39:25
Speaker 1: the king because the crown became a burden?
39:29
Speaker 5: Uh?
39:30
Speaker 6: I mean, it's just bro, It's just time, like you
39:35
Speaker 6: know what I mean, It's just you feel like it's
39:37
Speaker 6: time for me, like.
39:41
Speaker 5: As much fun. When I saw how much fun I
39:43
Speaker 5: was having doing comedy and golfing and vacation and chilling, like.
39:50
Speaker 6: I was enjoying myself. Guys, I had to pull away
39:54
Speaker 6: from that to come do this. You did, and people
40:00
Speaker 6: ask me, don't you want to keep doing this?
40:03
Speaker 5: While I'm like, no, I want to get back to that.
40:06
Speaker 8: I was like, when I listen to the music.
40:08
Speaker 5: That's what I enjoyed the most.
40:09
Speaker 9: You say what I said when I listened to some
40:11
Speaker 9: of the music on this on the album, it sounds
40:14
Speaker 9: like that, like you just like I'm good. I am, like,
40:18
Speaker 9: I believe that this might be the last one.
40:21
Speaker 5: But I mean, but the thing is okay. Well, I
40:24
Speaker 5: will admit.
40:25
Speaker 6: There are like songs that I still have that didn't
40:28
Speaker 6: make this album back.
40:31
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. I still put them out.
40:33
Speaker 6: You know, it'll still be an extension of this particular album.
40:37
Speaker 5: I can still put them out, you know what I mean.
40:39
Speaker 1: That's an interesting point Lauren makes because I felt like
40:41
Speaker 1: to them like, it ain't really the album is dope,
40:44
Speaker 1: but it ain't too much record that make you want
40:45
Speaker 1: to slap the ship out somebody.
40:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always give you a couple that make you
40:48
Speaker 2: want to and it's there, you know.
40:51
Speaker 5: But hey, man, you know somebody, you sound very happy
40:56
Speaker 5: that it is. Man, it's there. What makes you wanted
40:59
Speaker 5: to make make you want to shake somebody hands, you know,
41:05
Speaker 5: make you bury a hatchet.
41:07
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, it sounds very I guess
41:11
Speaker 2: free is the word I'm looking.
41:12
Speaker 5: Hey, thank you, thank you. I appreciate it.
41:16
Speaker 3: With the catalog, so long, would you would you do
41:18
Speaker 3: a residency?
41:19
Speaker 5: A residence?
41:24
Speaker 9: Say you got the catalog, you got the hits, I mean,
41:27
Speaker 9: why you don't have to leave your sweet but so much.
41:30
Speaker 6: So, I mean perhaps that sounds how about this, that
41:33
Speaker 6: sounds like the lesser of the evils? You know, it
41:39
Speaker 6: could it could be possible, But you know what I'm saying,
41:43
Speaker 6: it's just about like what what kind of commitment is
41:46
Speaker 6: attached to it on both ends?
41:48
Speaker 3: Because you can do it in Atlanta. It doesn't have
41:50
Speaker 3: to be Vegas. It could be Atlanta and people will fly.
41:52
Speaker 5: Can do it in Vegas.
41:53
Speaker 7: They got a lot of golf courses to.
41:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't want to do it in Atlanta would
41:58
Speaker 5: make it.
42:01
Speaker 2: Everything grade.
42:07
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's a possibility that could happen.
42:09
Speaker 9: When you're dealing with so like then this peaceful Aaron right,
42:12
Speaker 9: you put out the music, the critics are going critic
42:14
Speaker 9: the people going to talk, you talk about Internet on
42:16
Speaker 9: the album and respect all this. Respect you guy, how
42:18
Speaker 9: you're not worried about the internet cats?
42:19
Speaker 5: Right?
42:19
Speaker 9: But when you see people throwing things out there like
42:22
Speaker 9: Ray Daniels talking about t I just chased his trends, right,
42:26
Speaker 9: I tell you stay out a lot of bitting.
42:28
Speaker 5: Man.
42:28
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, he's a he's he's he's
42:30
Speaker 6: an implant, you know what I'm saying.
42:33
Speaker 5: Like he's been he was.
42:35
Speaker 6: Welcome, and he shouldn't take that that they're welcoming as
42:40
Speaker 6: a sign that he is, you know, a fixture, because
42:46
Speaker 6: he you know, he's still a visitor. So isn't it
42:50
Speaker 6: cool for everybody to have their opinion and no problem
42:52
Speaker 6: with that You're from from.
42:54
Speaker 1: Hell now a New York I'm that don't make sense.
43:01
Speaker 5: I don't know where.
43:02
Speaker 6: I don't know where from, and I ain't got no
43:04
Speaker 6: problem with them. I'm just but but I feel I
43:07
Speaker 6: feel that bruh When when when it's it's real home
43:12
Speaker 6: grown products of this community, these communities of this city,
43:18
Speaker 6: and we're dealing with things and we man, bro, mind
43:21
Speaker 6: your besnre man, stay out Atlanta busness. I'm not gonna
43:24
Speaker 6: go to LA and get into l a business. I'm
43:27
Speaker 6: not coming to New York getting no New York business.
43:30
Speaker 6: I'm not going to Baltimore getting the Baltimore Benny. I
43:34
Speaker 6: don't care how long I been there. So stay out Atlanta,
43:37
Speaker 6: Benning Man, that's it.
43:39
Speaker 5: That's all. Man, that's all. And so to tell us
43:43
Speaker 5: about what going on in.
43:44
Speaker 3: The Bronx relocated to Atlanta when he was twelve, just
43:46
Speaker 3: as a TI music kind of saw you.
43:48
Speaker 1: I've never you don't chase hits like and in fact,
43:50
Speaker 1: you put out records that are actually street that become his.
43:54
Speaker 5: I go away from where everybody else is doing.
43:58
Speaker 6: Every time somebody just like right now, everybody do I
44:00
Speaker 6: want to get out of music because that's what everybody's doing.
44:04
Speaker 5: I want to go away from where everybody else is.
44:06
Speaker 6: I'm never trying to chase down what everybody else doing.
44:10
Speaker 6: And if that is your opinion, and then you obviously
44:13
Speaker 6: have no idea what you've been observing.
44:16
Speaker 5: So just stay out of lone of business.
44:19
Speaker 1: Brother band Man was a street record that became a hit.
44:21
Speaker 1: You don't know me, you know, So.
44:23
Speaker 9: What's wrong with somebody like working with because I know,
44:28
Speaker 9: trying to get to like a broader audience and like
44:30
Speaker 9: you partnering with like or working with like jay Z
44:32
Speaker 9: and different people.
44:33
Speaker 8: What's wrong with artists?
44:34
Speaker 6: I hadn't doing that, Okay, So I don't know where
44:38
Speaker 6: this conversation is referencing and where.
44:40
Speaker 5: You're drawing from.
44:42
Speaker 6: I haven't heard the initial discussion. So I when you say,
44:46
Speaker 6: just like, what's wrong, I don't know. Like, I don't
44:49
Speaker 6: see nothing wrong with it. That's why I did it.
44:51
Speaker 6: So somebody else think it something wrong with it, and
44:54
Speaker 6: that's on them. But I'm gonna let them have it,
44:58
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. And I'm continue to move
45:00
Speaker 6: on and push forward.
45:01
Speaker 2: Is this a crazy stable to say? Somebody chases hits
45:03
Speaker 2: when they make.
45:04
Speaker 5: Hits, and that's another thing. But look, so that's another thing. Bruh.
45:09
Speaker 6: I can walk in an empty room and walk out
45:12
Speaker 6: with a hit. If you can't do that, bro, don't
45:15
Speaker 6: talk to me again. What I can't I can't dunk
45:18
Speaker 6: no basketball. I can't dunk no basketball. Never done it
45:22
Speaker 6: in my life. You know what I'm saying?
45:23
Speaker 5: So high? And the hell should I show up someone
45:26
Speaker 5: say that dunk one? Right? This is what you need
45:28
Speaker 5: to do. You got to stretch your own back, man.
45:31
Speaker 6: Just shut the fuck up and enjoy what you see
45:35
Speaker 6: because you can't do it.
45:37
Speaker 5: You cannot do it. You are not a creator. You
45:40
Speaker 5: are not. You are not.
45:42
Speaker 6: You do not pull thoughts and words and philosophy and
45:49
Speaker 6: perspectives from your mind introduce them to the world from
45:54
Speaker 6: nothing and turn it into something everybody wants to hear.
45:58
Speaker 6: You don't do it, so stop trying to fucking get
46:02
Speaker 6: in the way. You're just trying to participate whatever way
46:05
Speaker 6: you can because you can't do it. Just appreciate it, man,
46:09
Speaker 6: Appreciate that there's something going on that you can't do.
46:13
Speaker 5: And then man, let the red move on.
46:15
Speaker 6: And I say this man as humble it and peacefully
46:19
Speaker 6: as I can. Man, bro stay out Atlanta. Isn't it
46:23
Speaker 6: that confuses me?
46:25
Speaker 3: It confused me because I've seen the grind and I've
46:27
Speaker 3: never like from rubber band man like I've seen.
46:29
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense to me.
46:34
Speaker 4: I don't see it, and I've seen it a long time.
46:38
Speaker 7: Probably wanted somebody to pay attentions on.
46:41
Speaker 5: Yeah, your attention. Attention is a drug. Yeah it is.
46:44
Speaker 5: People be addicted.
46:46
Speaker 7: You are looking forward to getting into film, now are
46:48
Speaker 7: you making them? Are you like wearing a producer, director,
46:51
Speaker 7: writers had or are you just talking?
46:53
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, okay.
46:55
Speaker 7: Because yes, yes, yes, yes, yes I can audition.
46:58
Speaker 6: Yeah, I remember, man, one of the films that we got,
47:01
Speaker 6: you wanted to play you remember you wanted to plot it?
47:05
Speaker 5: Just what okay? Because I mean you want to talk
47:09
Speaker 5: about it? Yeah? You remember the role? No, it was okay,
47:15
Speaker 5: what is it, crackhead? No you want she got? Now?
47:26
Speaker 5: It was. It's a role. It was a role of
47:28
Speaker 5: a young.
47:29
Speaker 6: Lady who ended up going home with this couple and
47:33
Speaker 6: then you know what I'm saying, her and the and
47:35
Speaker 6: the and the young lady and the couple kind of
47:37
Speaker 6: got into it. But then they made up and they
47:40
Speaker 6: became a thropple, and you wanted to play that role, and.
47:46
Speaker 7: And then you he gave us somebody else to study.
47:52
Speaker 5: Hell no, what yes? You just want to get that out.
47:58
Speaker 5: You didn't want to get that out.
47:59
Speaker 6: I'm going I'm gonna find the way to showcase was white.
48:07
Speaker 8: Just relax, It's okay.
48:14
Speaker 7: Just ain't serious enough, y'all?
48:20
Speaker 5: All?
48:21
Speaker 7: Lie?
48:24
Speaker 5: Yeah, So yeah, I would love to work, which is
48:26
Speaker 5: just what kind of roles would you like to play?
48:30
Speaker 5: What kind of.
48:31
Speaker 7: Drama comedy whatever, like a cop or what snitch whatever.
48:36
Speaker 7: The I'm really really good like acting jobs. That's why
48:40
Speaker 7: I say, don't want to stand.
48:42
Speaker 4: Out what a can just can really act.
48:47
Speaker 5: That's what I said. Respect serious, I respect. I respect
48:50
Speaker 5: your craft and your passion.
48:52
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. Even in this conversation. You
48:55
Speaker 6: know I respect it. So let's let's find something to
48:57
Speaker 6: do to go.
48:58
Speaker 7: And you've even supported me. You come the shows, shows,
49:02
Speaker 7: all that hit out in the back and want nobody
49:03
Speaker 7: know you was dead. You came and gave me real
49:06
Speaker 7: critique on My.
49:07
Speaker 2: Wife didn't know you still do come shut up the
49:15
Speaker 2: way came walking, you still do comedy.
49:33
Speaker 7: This is what she was all the way out. And
49:36
Speaker 7: she was like, because I told her she got to
49:37
Speaker 7: catch a show. She was like, oh, you're still doing
49:40
Speaker 7: I'm coming out, Okay, all right, cool, I I got
49:42
Speaker 7: I gotta care. No, I don't think that your house off.
49:50
Speaker 5: Of you, off of you on the road now every
49:52
Speaker 5: time every weekend.
49:53
Speaker 7: I've been touring every weekend for like twelve years.
49:55
Speaker 5: That's what's up? What's up where you're at this week? Listen,
49:58
Speaker 5: I'm not.
50:04
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm celebrating, yo.
50:05
Speaker 5: I don't fucking need y'all.
50:12
Speaker 4: I don't need.
50:13
Speaker 7: I'm never fighting for my life. So yes, I'm promoting
50:16
Speaker 7: my book celebrating Juneteenth with the black folks this week,
50:19
Speaker 7: and I'm gonna be in Newark, New Jerseys.
50:21
Speaker 5: Okay, you're with a lot of black folks.
50:23
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But I'm on the road constantly all
50:27
Speaker 7: the time.
50:27
Speaker 5: That's what's up? When in that time when you come
50:29
Speaker 5: to Atlanta with what venues do you do?
50:32
Speaker 7: Atlanta Comedy Theater, Helium, I've done. The sounds is center
50:36
Speaker 7: stage of sound stage stage.
50:38
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was just there a.
50:38
Speaker 7: Few weeks ago.
50:39
Speaker 5: That what's up. I'm gonna try.
50:41
Speaker 7: I'm gonna try to shut down the the you did
50:44
Speaker 7: y'all were celebrating twenty twenty years. Man, you shut down
50:47
Speaker 7: the fucking ben Stadium.
50:49
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. We shot the video.
50:51
Speaker 6: We shot the video for uh the Summer Walker record. Yeah,
50:56
Speaker 6: we shot the video at the Mercedes Being Stadium. I
50:59
Speaker 6: don't think nobody ever shout the video and the do.
51:02
Speaker 6: I don't think so. I had seen it, you know
51:03
Speaker 6: what I.
51:04
Speaker 7: Mean, y'all turn into like a whole skating It was
51:07
Speaker 7: people leaving my books signing because I wasn't only there.
51:09
Speaker 7: The comment that did my book signing event as well.
51:11
Speaker 7: I heart there was people even there to go that.
51:14
Speaker 7: My flight was at like five in the morning. I
51:16
Speaker 7: was like, nah, I gotta get back, man. So what man, Man,
51:18
Speaker 7: I wanted to play golf and be on the boat
51:20
Speaker 7: and then be with my kids.
51:23
Speaker 2: Yes, I did you know you boys do?
51:26
Speaker 5: Man? Come on out there? Man there all right? Her?
51:32
Speaker 5: Man like you golf?
51:36
Speaker 2: NOA I tried it one time, but that's it ain't
51:37
Speaker 2: for me.
51:38
Speaker 5: What not? Man, It's so I need.
51:40
Speaker 2: I got to develop more patience for golf.
51:42
Speaker 5: And man, that ships so fun.
51:44
Speaker 2: I like being out there you do on the car
51:46
Speaker 2: drinking talking ship.
51:47
Speaker 6: That the closest thing that I've gotten to as an adult.
51:50
Speaker 6: Remember what I felt to stay outside all.
51:52
Speaker 5: Day as a kid. Man, and you come home and
51:56
Speaker 5: then you eat and shower and go to bed.
52:00
Speaker 7: It's a lot of great connections, made a lot of
52:03
Speaker 7: networking and all that time that's going on out there.
52:07
Speaker 6: Whoever you out there golfing with whatever it is y'all
52:09
Speaker 6: talking about. I have all day to talk about it, absolutely,
52:13
Speaker 6: whatever it is, man, and it just man, I think
52:16
Speaker 6: you know us living in the world whereas it's so
52:19
Speaker 6: it's so many distractions it's good. It's refreshing to just
52:24
Speaker 6: be able to yank away and just focus on anything
52:29
Speaker 6: for you know, just the moment, and God allows that, man,
52:32
Speaker 6: and I you know, I enjoy it a lot.
52:34
Speaker 10: I do.
52:35
Speaker 1: This is my last question, man, what's hard of becoming
52:38
Speaker 1: the king or knowing when it's time to lead a
52:39
Speaker 1: throw mm hmm.
52:44
Speaker 5: Probably accepted, Probably accepted.
52:47
Speaker 6: When it's time to lead a throne because you never
52:50
Speaker 6: noticed how hard it is to become the king. You know,
52:53
Speaker 6: you can look back and reflect on it, but you
52:55
Speaker 6: don't notice it while you're going through it. But it
52:58
Speaker 6: takes it takes humility, you know, to actually lay a
53:06
Speaker 6: crown down, you know what I'm saying, willingly and walk
53:10
Speaker 6: away from it. That that you know, that takes uh,
53:13
Speaker 6: that takes some uh some discipline. Yeah, that's what I think.
53:18
Speaker 7: Are getting kill the king to ur uh.
53:21
Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you what we're gonna get.
53:22
Speaker 6: You're gonna get the succession to up with me the
53:25
Speaker 6: money and king uh man, tickets don't say it right now, man.
53:29
Speaker 5: Y'all go.
53:30
Speaker 6: You know, we're gonna go to some to some markets
53:32
Speaker 6: and I want to have an opportunity to tour the
53:35
Speaker 6: world and you know what I'm saying.
53:37
Speaker 5: And and see the stage with my sons. I mean,
53:42
Speaker 5: King said, you open it up for man. You know
53:47
Speaker 5: what I would? I would would, Yeah, I open up
53:50
Speaker 5: for man.
53:51
Speaker 10: I'll enjoy so much after I do, live your life
53:54
Speaker 10: and then give him the mic, ands, ain't that get
53:56
Speaker 10: out there? And I know you'll do it, but it's
54:02
Speaker 10: just but you know that stress is gonna.
54:05
Speaker 8: I enjoy that he's so casually just actually four hundred
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Speaker 8: thousand dollars, I.
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Speaker 6: Mean, man, you know he don't have a concept of
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Speaker 6: money for real, you know not you you know what
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Speaker 6: I'm saying. That's why things like this is good. You know,
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Speaker 6: for him to understand budgets. And you know, even if
54:20
Speaker 6: you have money, you have to use discernment with how
54:23
Speaker 6: to spend it because it don't make sense to spend
54:25
Speaker 6: all this money here.
54:26
Speaker 5: You still have to spend money there.
54:28
Speaker 6: So these are you know, these are lessons and things
54:31
Speaker 6: that I think that the tour is teaching him. I
54:35
Speaker 6: think him and the money already on their own tour
54:38
Speaker 6: right now. I think that I think he's learning along
54:41
Speaker 6: the way. He just bought himself an RV and you know,
54:46
Speaker 6: investing in his in his art and his talent. So
54:49
Speaker 6: the secession to it will be an eventful an eventful thing.
54:52
Speaker 6: So I think everybody who had an opportunity to get
54:54
Speaker 6: out there and see us, you should come home.
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Speaker 5: Man. It's gonna be something.
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Speaker 8: And you're gonna be over in LA for other BT Awards.
54:59
Speaker 6: Yeah, ye were going to the BET Awards. It will man,
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Speaker 6: you know, uh, I think I got you know what
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Speaker 6: I'm saying, I got, I got. I got one one
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Speaker 6: last time to sit sit sit that stage on.
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Speaker 8: Fire, the last last time. I mean I guess it
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Speaker 8: was the last album.
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Speaker 6: Well I mean no, I mean I show up and
55:15
Speaker 6: come out. You know what I'm saying for something. I'm
55:17
Speaker 6: just saying for me, for my it's gonna.
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Speaker 1: Be the greatesttion. You're gonna do like new stuff too.
55:22
Speaker 1: I mean, I know you're gonna do new stuff, But
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Speaker 1: are you gonna give him a little medal?
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Speaker 5: I can't even man, Man, I'm gonna be I don't
55:29
Speaker 5: know what I'm gonna do yet.
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Speaker 6: I don't know what I'm gonna do yet for real, man,
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Speaker 6: But I know it's gonna be special. And I'm taking
55:34
Speaker 6: my time and just.
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Speaker 5: Thinking about how to curate and experience a moment that
55:39
Speaker 5: will be memorable. Uh and that'll live past you know,
55:45
Speaker 5: it's airing. That's it. What you got going on? Oh
55:52
Speaker 5: you see what I'm saying that I'm still saying I
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Speaker 5: was doing this ship, I would be out there with him,
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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I got to get
56:05
Speaker 5: back to now. You've got to do it to get
56:07
Speaker 5: you some clubs and get out there and golf man,
56:09
Speaker 5: what do you do? You do?
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Speaker 1: You do?
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Speaker 5: You do you yacht ye?
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Speaker 11: Okay, okay, everything always talking.
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Speaker 2: Had to documentary.
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Speaker 4: That right now now, you asked, I, it's the Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 4: Good morning, every.
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Speaker 11: Day a week.
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Speaker 2: Click your ass up the Breakfast You are finished, yorkdum