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Chuck in the Morning 7-21 Hour 4: Ryon Healy, OPQ and one last thing! · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 2: Thanks. I think he's waiting for me. He can't feel
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  Speaker 2: entirely comfortable until I get the zoom call up. Now
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  Speaker 2: now look at him, Look at him. Just relax.
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  Speaker 3: He's so excited.
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  Speaker 2: There's radio, but I gotta see you. I've got a
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  Speaker 2: hat today.
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  Speaker 4: Y'all have a vest? Is that a vest too?
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  Speaker 2: A little vest? Yeah? Yeah? What do you think?
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  Speaker 4: Look really good?
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  Speaker 2: What do you think of the ensemble? Give me your
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  Speaker 2: honest feedback? Uh?
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  Speaker 4: For a Tuesday, I feel like it's a it's a
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  Speaker 4: nine point two. Wow, you're really out there.
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  Speaker 2: I've never scored above a four point seven with you either, have.
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  Speaker 4: I I'm really careful what I want to say back
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  Speaker 4: to I'm worried that like you're wearing like some cargo
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  Speaker 4: shorts and flip flops with it, and I can't see
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  Speaker 4: that part of the screen. So I'm just gonna really
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  Speaker 4: judge from like the collar line up and that gets
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  Speaker 4: a nine point two.
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  Speaker 2: You will be actually surprised to know that I have
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  Speaker 2: a flattering surrong on underneath. Thank got it's radio and
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  Speaker 2: some birkin stocks.
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  Speaker 3: He looks super comfy though, and.
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  Speaker 2: Some you know, high black socks. You know that's the
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  Speaker 2: ensemble beneath. Yeah, yeah, I like it. Well, good to
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  Speaker 2: see you. Ryan Heally is with us a former Mariner
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  Speaker 2: now with Mariner's Television of course, and every Tuesday at
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  Speaker 2: nine o'clock we talked some Mariner baseball with our guy
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Healy. So great to see you, and it's great
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  Speaker 2: to have you on coming off a nice win like
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  Speaker 2: that when Kyle hits a grand slam and George Pitch
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  Speaker 2: is great and the bullpen decision that was made you
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  Speaker 2: ended up not paying for it because you blew open
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  Speaker 2: the game and the bottom of the seven. So there
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  Speaker 2: are a lot of things to discuss, and most of
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  Speaker 2: them positive. What do you think Cal's grand slam might
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  Speaker 2: have done for him last night?
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  Speaker 4: Well, if you watched his postgame interview, it definitely didn't
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  Speaker 4: give him more facial expressions or you know, volume changes
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  Speaker 4: in his voice, like he's just so even keeled, and
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  Speaker 4: even when he's run the bases, he's not fist pump,
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  Speaker 4: and he's not pounding his chest, he's not doing all
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  Speaker 4: these things. I almost felt like the team was more
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  Speaker 4: excited for him than Cal was excited for himself. And
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  Speaker 4: I believe it's because Cal has that internal expectation of himself,
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  Speaker 4: like that's that's my job, that's what i'm that's what
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  Speaker 4: I do, that's what I've done my whole career, That's
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  Speaker 4: what I'm supposed to do, and I'm gonna start doing
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  Speaker 4: that more. At least that's what we're all watching and
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  Speaker 4: hoping for. But it was the moment where the game
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  Speaker 4: is essentially challenging you to a duel where you intentionally
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  Speaker 4: walked on cans On in front of you to load
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  Speaker 4: the bases to get to the ranning, you know, runner
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  Speaker 4: up MVP, And that's something as a hitter that you
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  Speaker 4: take so personally, and all of a sudden, the opposing
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  Speaker 4: dugout and the opposing manager that made that decision becomes
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  Speaker 4: your arch nemesis and you do everything in your power
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  Speaker 4: to make sure you prove him wrong. And hence why
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  Speaker 4: he ambushed an oh well breaking ball that was over
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  Speaker 4: the play, but I doubt cal was based off the swing.
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  Speaker 4: Didn't look like Kyl was sitting on it. But for
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  Speaker 4: him to go up there and say, I'm gonna make
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  Speaker 4: a statement here, whether it was a grand slam or
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  Speaker 4: a sack fly or you know, opportunity to score the run,
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  Speaker 4: he did the best of the three, get the Rye
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  Speaker 4: bread out, and it's definitely Graham's the lobby Timeeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, when you're struggling as much as he is,
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  Speaker 2: and you're also even though you don't have a C
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  Speaker 2: on your jersey, I mean, he's kind of considered the leader,
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  Speaker 2: the captain of the team. But how difficult is it
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  Speaker 2: to take on captain responsibilities when you feel like you're
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  Speaker 2: not pulling your own weight?
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  Speaker 4: Very uh And I've never been in the situation at
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  Speaker 4: the aging level the Cow's been in regard to that
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  Speaker 4: type of leader, but in different levels, definitely have been
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  Speaker 4: that that caliber of player and leadership expectations. And I
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  Speaker 4: think that if we relate this, so let's just say
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  Speaker 4: a husband and a father. If you feel like you
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  Speaker 4: are doing terrible at work or you just lost your job,
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  Speaker 4: it's hard to come home and fulfill the responsibilities that
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  Speaker 4: ultimately matter more of being a great husband and a
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  Speaker 4: great father because you feel less than internally, you don't
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  Speaker 4: feel like you are worthy of that leadership capability. So
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  Speaker 4: if you're unable to lead yourself and have some symmetry
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  Speaker 4: and cohesion between the other facets of your life, it's
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  Speaker 4: hard to know execute on that. And that's not to
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  Speaker 4: say that Cal hasn't had the effort, you know, moving
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  Speaker 4: forward of being that leader, but I'm sure the day
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  Speaker 4: to day responsibilities, it's hard to go walk up and
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  Speaker 4: hold a guy accountable when you just punched out with
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  Speaker 4: the bases loaded and you're bat into buck sixty. It's
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  Speaker 4: really hard to look someone in the eye. And I
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  Speaker 4: know Cal can still do it, and it's still doing
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  Speaker 4: it from time to time, but I'm sure his awareness
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  Speaker 4: of those moments isn't as high because he's in his
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  Speaker 4: head circulating about what the last of bat was.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's take it a little bit further. Let's theorize
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  Speaker 2: about something. Because this team has not look like it's
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  Speaker 2: played all that cohesively, and Cal admitted as much after
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  Speaker 2: the game last night. But when Cal can't be Cal
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  Speaker 2: because he's still trying to figure out how to hit again,
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  Speaker 2: and JP's been demoted from shortstop to third base and
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  Speaker 2: doesn't really feel like he's got that bright of a future.
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  Speaker 2: And Luis Castillo is piggybacking and probably has seen the
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  Speaker 2: riding on the wall that I'm the sixth best starter
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  Speaker 2: around these here parts. Those are your three leaders, Ryan,
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  Speaker 2: does that maybe explain why this team has felt disjointed
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  Speaker 2: this year? That when your three leaders aren't really they're
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  Speaker 2: not exactly excelling, and so they're spending their time trying
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  Speaker 2: to figure out how to contribute, stay in the lineup,
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  Speaker 2: try to get going, versus doing leadership things that help
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  Speaker 2: keep the entire train on the tracks.
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  Speaker 4: Chuck, I've known you for close to a year up
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  Speaker 4: to this point, and I want to commend you because
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  Speaker 4: one of the best points that I've ever heard you make,
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  Speaker 4: and you make a lot of good points, but that
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  Speaker 4: is one of the most valid internal kind of interpretations
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  Speaker 4: of what's going on with the Mariners that I've heard.
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  Speaker 4: And I've thought of a little bit of that, but
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  Speaker 4: not putting all the piecells together right there, and I
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  Speaker 4: think that was a little bit mind blowing right there. Chuck,
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  Speaker 4: well done, and I agree with you. I couldn't agree
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  Speaker 4: more with you that you. Luis Castillo has been anointed
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  Speaker 4: by all of the younger pitchers who have maybe had
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  Speaker 4: more success in him this season as being the leader.
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  Speaker 2: He's the rock.
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  Speaker 4: Cal Raley obviously is the leader of that team as
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  Speaker 4: in its attirety, and and JP has been the longest
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  Speaker 4: tendered Mariner has been through a lot of cycles with this,
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  Speaker 4: with this organization, all three of those players have dealt
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  Speaker 4: with a ton of uncertainty or individual lack of consistent performance.
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  Speaker 4: So there's a good chance that there's some disconnect between there,
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  Speaker 4: and that's not by their fault. They are humans, they
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  Speaker 4: are baseball players, and this game is really hard. The
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  Speaker 4: timing of all three to go through it at the
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  Speaker 4: same exact wain though, it's really unfortunate. And when I
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  Speaker 4: think back about the Mariners when spring training started, I
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  Speaker 4: remember being on site in Peoria early on a camp,
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  Speaker 4: and then I was on site at the end of camp,
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  Speaker 4: and there wasn't a bad thing that you could talk
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  Speaker 4: about with this team, with this organization, with the way
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  Speaker 4: this front office has crafted this lineup and this roster,
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  Speaker 4: and now as the season goes on, everything is kind
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  Speaker 4: of poking its ugly head up, like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 4: how are so many things going wrong or potentially going right,
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  Speaker 4: all in the same breath, and this team is still
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  Speaker 4: flirting with five hundred. I think you just hit the
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  Speaker 4: nail on the head of A reason why some of
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  Speaker 4: that consistency hasn't shown up is because the leaders are
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  Speaker 4: dealing with so much uncertainty individually that it's hard to
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  Speaker 4: bring the group together on a daily basis.
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  Speaker 2: It's such a crazy difficult game. I mean, I want
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  Speaker 2: to believe that in the last two and a half
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  Speaker 2: days that maybe it got fixed, But I'm also thinking
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  Speaker 2: about who your opponents are. You're not exactly beating the
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  Speaker 2: best in the league these last two and a half days,
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  Speaker 2: And I'm thinking back.
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  Speaker 4: It didn't in June.
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  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, true, And thinking back to that Saturday where
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the it felt like the season was dead
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  Speaker 2: and Cole Young hits that three run homer and it
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  Speaker 2: resurrects like everybody's okay, maybe we got something going. And
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  Speaker 2: since that time, all you've done is won. So can
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  Speaker 2: I can anyone listening? Because baseball so hard, but can
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  Speaker 2: we give ourselves a little bit this morning to thinking
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  Speaker 2: that maybe it is on the right track.
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  Speaker 4: Cole's postgame press conference last night, I think gave a
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  Speaker 4: behind the curtains look at to what this team is evaluating.
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  Speaker 4: And I know Dan Wilson talked a lot about wanting
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  Speaker 4: this team to come back from the All Star Break
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  Speaker 4: with energy and playing with that passion and you know,
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  Speaker 4: doing the little things.
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  Speaker 2: The right way.
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  Speaker 4: And then Game one happens of the second half and
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  Speaker 4: everyone goes, oh, no, here we go again. And I
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  Speaker 4: say that confidently because I had that same thought halfway
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  Speaker 4: through Game two against the Giants are thinking the same thing.
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  Speaker 4: Logan web is in cruise control. And then Cole Young
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  Speaker 4: shows up with a two out, three run home run
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  Speaker 4: that all of a sudden gave not just that team,
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  Speaker 4: but That's stadium and that the fan base life, including myself,
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  Speaker 4: and they've been able to capitalize on some of that momentum.
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  Speaker 4: And even last night, like the first half of the
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  Speaker 4: game was a dismal offensive performance by both sides and
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  Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, it blows open and the
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  Speaker 4: eight to nothing score looks like it was out of
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  Speaker 4: reach the whole time, but it wasn't so for me.
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  Speaker 4: I don't get my helpes up much for the future
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  Speaker 4: and I guess if I'm speaking to the Mariners' fan
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  Speaker 4: base here, the future is irrelevant for this club. The
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  Speaker 4: next ten days are going to be really valuable for
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  Speaker 4: Major League Baseball and the Mariners of what trades happened.
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  Speaker 4: And I think the way that the Mariners team performs
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  Speaker 4: will dictate what direction the Mariners go with their their
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  Speaker 4: trades and their moves or the deadline. But this is
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  Speaker 4: not a team that's out of it. This is not
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  Speaker 4: a team that's been out of it this entire season long.
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  Speaker 4: This is just a team that hasn't played up to
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  Speaker 4: their expectations, and looking at the future is not going
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  Speaker 4: to help them stay more present and execute what they
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  Speaker 4: need to today against a really good arm and Chase
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  Speaker 4: Burns day.
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  Speaker 2: To time, the old day, Dad time. That's the only way.
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  Speaker 4: You sixty sixty one of these things left.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, right. He is with us, former Mariner
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  Speaker 2: now with the Mariners TV, and we love having them
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  Speaker 2: on every Tuesday to talk to Mariners Baseball here at
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  Speaker 2: nine o'clock. And so Logan Gilbert. Yesterday. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if you've heard the dirt, but on Monday I called
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  Speaker 2: for a managerial change. I went that far. I went
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  Speaker 2: that far. Feel free to chastise me.
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  Speaker 4: A series when you wanted a managerial change. Huh.
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  Speaker 2: I did what I saw. The despondency that I saw
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  Speaker 2: on the looks of players faces Friday night when the
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  Speaker 2: game was over, it just was like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if Dan's reaching them. But Logan Gilbert
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  Speaker 2: did defend Dan yesterday on our airwaves. I want you
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  Speaker 2: to listen to it and tell me what you think.
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  Speaker 2: Here's Logan on with Softy talking about people like me
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  Speaker 2: should shut our traps when it.
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  Speaker 4: Comes to dat.
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  Speaker 5: I always try to be pretty nice, but like if
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  Speaker 5: people have I ever heard people say that, that's probably
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  Speaker 5: when I would get fired up. I think I think
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  Speaker 5: days that people would ever say that. Dan's one of
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  Speaker 5: the best people I've ever met. I think he's amazing
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  Speaker 5: at his job and what he does and the way
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  Speaker 5: he gets us going, Like you know, nobody outside of
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  Speaker 5: here knows what it's like in a locker room with him.
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  Speaker 5: Only the players do. And I think every single one
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  Speaker 5: of us would go to bat for him. So he's
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  Speaker 5: the man. I love playing under him, and I hope
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  Speaker 5: he stays here forever.
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  Speaker 2: Weget gil defending his manager yesterday. What do you make
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  Speaker 2: of that?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he didn't call you out personally by name.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's a good sign. And essentially, since you're not
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  Speaker 4: a you're not that far away from the stadium, and
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  Speaker 4: he could come down to the station if he really
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  Speaker 4: wanted to.
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  Speaker 2: But I woul thought the last guy that would try
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  Speaker 2: to fight and he would be Logan Gilbert.
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  Speaker 4: I'll send him the address, I know exactly where it's at.
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  Speaker 4: He can combine you. But I think that's so special.
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  Speaker 4: And I've been on teams where players wouldn't say those
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  Speaker 4: exact words about managers, and the fact that he's willing to,
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  Speaker 4: I think that just shows the connection that's happening behind
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  Speaker 4: the walls that none of the fans and most of
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  Speaker 4: the media never sees the conversations. And if you really
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  Speaker 4: think about it, Chuck, there's one situation this entire season
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  Speaker 4: where it has come outside of the locker room where
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  Speaker 4: people were frustrated with the lack of communication that Dan
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  Speaker 4: Wilson was providing, and that was when the piggyback first started.
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  Speaker 4: That's the only time where there's been public criticism or
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  Speaker 4: frustration demonstrated by the players within these walls. The rest
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  Speaker 4: of it, it's just the media, it's just the fans,
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  Speaker 4: it's people on social media wanting to get rid of
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  Speaker 4: Dan Wilson because they think he's the one at fall
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  Speaker 4: Where I think, what you've actually done on this call today, Chuck,
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  Speaker 4: is you've actually labeled a couple real reasons why this
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  Speaker 4: team is having a hard time being consistent, and for
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  Speaker 4: the first time, Dan Wilson is on the top of
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  Speaker 4: the list.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And part of my frustration with him. I have
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  Speaker 2: not agreed with his bullpen decisions. I've not agreed with
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  Speaker 2: his bench usage. And does I mean that he's wrong
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  Speaker 2: every time? And I'm certainly not laying all the blame
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  Speaker 2: at his feet. I just feel like this team's underachieved
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  Speaker 2: to this point in the season. And who else would
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  Speaker 2: I hold ultimately responsible when I believe in the roster.
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  Speaker 2: If I didn't believe in the roster, I'd blame the
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  Speaker 2: people above him. My problem is why are we not
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  Speaker 2: getting more out of this roster? But last night was
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  Speaker 2: an example of it. How do you take George Kirby
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  Speaker 2: out after six innings when he's pitching that well and
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  Speaker 2: he's coming off rest. He used it as a reason
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  Speaker 2: to take him out. He hasn't pitched in a while.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to take him out because we feel really
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  Speaker 2: good after eighty pitches, removing him on a night where
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  Speaker 2: we know we don't have all the leverage pieces of
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  Speaker 2: our bullpen at our at our fingertips because they pitched
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  Speaker 2: on back to back night. So it's stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: Can you explain why you would take George Kirby out
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  Speaker 2: last night at all?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I'll finish with that question, but I want to
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  Speaker 4: start with this. The biggest difference between what Dan's job,
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  Speaker 4: the front office job is compare to the media, the
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  Speaker 4: manager and the front officer making decisions off of percentages,
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  Speaker 4: a base off of what different pitch are doing for
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  Speaker 4: situations without knowing what the results can be or what
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  Speaker 4: the performance will be of that picture. The media is
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  Speaker 4: strictly judging the decisions and then the performance and results
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  Speaker 4: of the circumstance that that picture or manager put him in.
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  Speaker 4: Dan has zero control of what happens on the baseball
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  Speaker 4: field the minute he walks off it. He can decide
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  Speaker 4: what picture comes in, but guess what that decision was
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  Speaker 4: made before the game ever started, based off of who
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  Speaker 4: is available, what circumstances of situations call for a specific
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  Speaker 4: type of arm. He is this is the worst word
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  Speaker 4: to use, but he's not guessing, but he is using
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  Speaker 4: his kind of system within the organization to make those
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  Speaker 4: decisions and then the results happen. So that's out of
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  Speaker 4: his control of some reguards, plus all the injuries that
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  Speaker 4: have happened, and then the bench that's underperformed at least
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  Speaker 4: on the right handed side of the batter's box or
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  Speaker 4: the plate. So I'm gonna finish on that. George Kirby,
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  Speaker 4: the big reason why I believe he came out of
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  Speaker 4: the game after eighty pitches last night is the exact
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  Speaker 4: reason why we saw Julio come out of the game
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  Speaker 4: late in the game. I think I don't know what
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  Speaker 4: happened to Julio, so I'm not gonna speculate what the
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  Speaker 4: injury was, but there's something that happened to him. Why
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  Speaker 4: because he's had a ton of rest and he didn't
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  Speaker 4: going to rehab assignment. He's been hanging out for the
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  Speaker 4: last ten, you know plus days and then went back
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  Speaker 4: to back games real quick. So late in the game
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  Speaker 4: last night, a little bit of fatigu kind of run
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  Speaker 4: out of ball hard. All of a sudden something happens.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what yet, we'll find out. That's the
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  Speaker 4: exact reason why George Kirby comes out of the game.
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  Speaker 4: He had a ton of rest. Why push him from
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  Speaker 4: not throwing for X amount of days to now go
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  Speaker 4: one hundred plus. Yes he was grooving, Yes he looked great,
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  Speaker 4: but also like he he did his job. He threw
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  Speaker 4: six short, six scoreless. It looked tremendous, was using both
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  Speaker 4: sides of the plate and kept that offense.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: Sure, I'd love to have see him back out there
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: in the seventh, but that wasn't decision that they made.
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: They felt like that was good for what they needed,
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: and they move on to the bullpen, and this time
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: it all worked out.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: I want to go back to what you said in
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: the first half of that response, because I wholly agree
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: with you and then wholly disagree with you all on
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: a couple of those things, like number one, I'm with you.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Like to me, I think media and I try not
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: to be one of these members, are way too result oriented.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: You're right, this is why I would take Dan Wilson out.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: It's not that I think that he's not that he's
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: to blame for everything, But I think somebody else might
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: give you a better percentage chance of winning. And I'll
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: explain that because like ref Schneider, for example, I don't
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: blame Jerry Depoto for Rob Refschneider. This year, the most
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: recent evidence you had of Rob Refschneider was that he
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: crushes left handers. Six months later he can't hit them
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: at all. I don't blame the decision, but the result
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: obviously now has to be dealt with, So I'm with you.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: I think way too many people in the media wait
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: for the result and then have an emotional response. I
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: really do try not to be that way, but when
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: it comes to Dan don't. I don't agree with the
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: decisions a lot of the time going into the situation.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: That's the problem that I have with it. Is like
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: last night, for example, I don't know how you even
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: justify it. I mean, I thought the idea of an
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: all Star break was to make people give them rest
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: so they would be stronger coming out of the break,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: not weaker and more fragile. So I really do believe. Yeah,
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: I'm with you. This game is about percentages, and it's
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: from all angles. Whether you're signing a free agent, or
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: making a pitching decision, or making a pinch hitting decision.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: A lot goes into that and what goes into the decision.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Sometimes the result is taken out of your hands and
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: you still made a good decision. But I have really
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: had a problem with the decisions in the moment to
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: bring in said pitcher for said situation, And so I
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: really can I can honestly say that I'm not waiting
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: to see the result.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: I'll just put it that way, which I understand. Yeah,
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: who are you alluding to being more fragile and weaker
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: after the second half of your saying George George.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: Think that was George's decision to come out of the game. No,
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: I know, I think.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying they treated him like he was
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: weaker and more fragile coming out of the break. I
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: thought the idea of getting a break was so you
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: could replenish your strength five days off. Yeah, but it
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: doesn't work like that.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Like if you go to the gym and you max
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: out on bench and then you don't go to the
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: gym for let's just say ten days, and you go
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: back to the gym, do you think your max bench
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: is going to increase or decrease from the last time
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: you just did it.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm gonna max out of one thirty five the
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: same way I did before.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: So for me, like, if you're not coming back after
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: a little bit of rest stronger, Like, I don't think
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: that analogy. I don't think that shoe fits not in
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: the game of baseball, and especially not for pictures that
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: you can more about than being one hundred percent at
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: the end of September and through October than you do
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: for the very first start of the second half when
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: he literally just threw six shutout innings.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, you are good with Dan. Just to
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: kind of put a fine point on it, Yes, consider.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: I have been a supporter of Dan from the jump.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: I feel like most of my time spent on you know,
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: radio and talk shows is to defend Dan from the
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: player's perspective, from a former player that wishes he could
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: be in that clubhouse right now playing. I would love
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: to play for Dan Wilson.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Good, what do you feel about tonight? Because Stio versus Burns,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: he already alluded to how good he is.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Uh, yeah, Burns is really good. The nice piece that
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: he's a right handed pitcher. I was a little nervous
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: about the left handed pitcher Max a matchup last night,
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: but obviously we saw a completely different lineup thrown out there,
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: some because of injuries, but also you know, a guy
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: like Victor Robo was coming out there getting four hits
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: that was electric. The base running he had, he brought
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: some energy, he brought some excitement. Uh, Chase Burns is
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: going to be a challenge. I'd like to see the
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: best version of Luis Castillo tonight, and I think throwing
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: against his former team, he's gonna have some familiar faces
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: in there as well, former teammates. Suarez going to see
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: some Gina's going to see some really fast fastballs tonight.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you that much. You always throw harder against
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: your buddies. I think it's gonna be a good matchup
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: and might be a little bit similar to last night's
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: where maybe it's a little bit quiet in the first
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: four or five innings and whoever gets the bullpen first
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: can blow it open.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Do you have a trade guy circled? Do you have somebody?
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, you brought up the trade deadline earlier, and
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I didn't mean to just blow over it. We were
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: just talking about so many other things. Do you have
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: a guy had bigger fish to fry.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: I saw a trade suggestion last night for the first
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: time where it actually showed Mason Miller potentially coming over
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: to Seattle and they I think the suggestion even parlayed
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: it with Frando Tatis. I don't know where he fits
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: in the equation. Maybe it's a I hated right fielder.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: But like I saw that, I'm like, wow, that looks
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: really good. Is that even possible? Who do I like,
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: was there an app or a platform or something where
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: I can put in like the trade value for what
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: looks like gets fair, like a fantasy football league or something.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: But listen, that stuff so above my head. I think
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: the marritor has been very clear what they need or
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: right hated bat and a back end reliever. If you
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: get Bason Miller, you pretty much get the best one
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: on the market. So yeah, that was one that jumped
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: out to me.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: That's interesting. Yeah, all right, good session, Thank you sir.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: We appreciate it. I appreciate you all the compliment, and
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I also appreciate the pushback. Yeah, you know, Ryan Heay's
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: gonna come in here. And tell me what's up every
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: single week.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: I can promise me Tuesday, Mariners fans, let's go.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: All right, we'll talk to you next week. See all right?
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• 22:00
  Speaker 2: I know you're really interested in other people's quarterbacks, so
• 22:03
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• 22:20
  Speaker 2: to you. It is Chuck and Ashley with you, and yes,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: we have a segment of OPQ. We're getting ready for
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: training camp or coverage begins on Monday. Seahawks will be
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: doing some form of practice this weekend. So it's here.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Football season is here, believe it or not. Are you
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: e Ben ready for that? Are you ready for that?
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: I don't know I think so, but I thanks when
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: you're world champs. It does help, but I also am
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: like I just kind of want to enjoy that longer,
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: and it feels like we just want it now we're
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: gonna have to go defend it.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, yeah, but.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: I'm ready to see I love you, That's what excited.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, things have been so busy. Usually people get
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: excited because there's some sort of lull. We've been so busy.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: There's just no shortage of topics and we're and we're
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, think about this show today. I haven't even
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: talked about Julio today. Yeah, I know, he left the
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: game and with another injury. Again apparently every time he
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: gets hit by a ball he gets hurt. And so
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: we haven't even talked about it because there'm in so
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: many other fat, juicy topics to discuss. And now we're
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: going to layer the King on top of this, A
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: super Bowl champion getting ready to fend its crown, starting
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: training camp, and we'll be starting our coverage on Monday.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: It seems like a little too much.
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: It does lot a lot, But just like we talked
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: about yesterday, right, how much do we love fall?
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and so I start I've already had my initial
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: thoughts of like, ooh, I could be ready for fall,
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: and then I slowed myself down. I was like, no, no, no,
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: we got all summer. We got to enjoy this while
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: it's here. Yeah, And so I think I backed myself
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: off of it. Whereas if I start getting excited about
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: football season, that means I go full fall.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: No, I see, all right, well maybe maybe just put
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: the limits. Yeah, you're exciting.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: I'm excited for training camp?
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about other people's quarterbacks here. Let's talk
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: about Baker Mayfield, who apparently is in contract negotiations with
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers right now, and they want to
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: make him the face of their franchise. They believe they
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: can win a Super Bowl with him going forward. He
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: didn't quite win over Rams fans or Panthers fans, and
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: boy sure fell out a favor fast with those stupid
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Browns fans. Gosh, you people are stupid, man. It's unbelievable.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Who you really want to be your quarterbacks when you
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: actually have a good one and you chase him out
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: of town because he's playing hurt. It's I is it
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: anything more dumb than a Cleveland Browns fan.
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: Well, and I can't say that in general, but I
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: can't say as far as they went with the Baker
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: Mayfield situation. I mean, the guy's shoulder was like halfway
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: off and he's trying to play and tough it out.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you write him off so that you're can
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: have Deshaun Watson.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Ooh, that works out really well. And so yeah, that
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: part they are really stupid.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: And I realized the execu the owner and the executives
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: and all those then they had a hand in the signing.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: But they welcomed Deshaun Watson with open.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Arms, and Johnny Manziel and every other piece of dung
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: that ever put on a Brown uniform. So anyway, I
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: wasn't even planning on discussing that. But he's found a home.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: You would think that he would love having been embraced
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: like he's been in Tampa Bay. And he's refound success
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: both the aw the and the wind column. Statistically, he's
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: re established himself not as one of the best quarterbacks
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: in the NFL, he'll never be that, but one of
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: the better quarterbacks in the National Football League. But here
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: he is in this negotiation, and this is puzzling to me,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: apparently he's asking for fifty million a year. It's not
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Dak Prescott money, but he wants to be that fifty
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: that fifty million dollar barrier. Why Baker, I mean your
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: path of all people, shouldn't you know? Why don't you
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: You've shared the same team and you were both backups
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: at Carolina at the same time. Look what Sam Donald
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: did when he just took a step back from his
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: own ego and said I'd like to be on a
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: winner and took thirty three and a half million coming
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: off a really good year. And he's didn't sit there
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: and spend the entire offseason saying I need to be
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: paid fifty million dollars and maybe that time will come.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: But then he's got a Super Bowl championship ring Jim
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Donald earned it has refurbished all of his value because
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: not because of what he did in Minnesota, look at
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: how many doubters he had last year, but because he
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: took a reasonable, not a bad salary. Thirty three eight
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: million dollars a year is is good money. And so
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: he takes a reasonable salary and then doesn't make a
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: stink when he has a breakthrough year and wins the
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl Championship. Can we not learn from that? You
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: fools out there? I mean, if you're a Baker, wouldn't
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: you just say, hey, let's go forty.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Look, I'll take forty in the middle.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I'll keep a little bit of space, put a great
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: team around me. What Sam did, man, that looked an
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: awful lot of fun. I want to do that. We're
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: not that far away, And if I take fifty, I
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: might take us further away from that. If I take
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: forty thirty five, that probably moves as closer to where
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: we want to go. I just I don't know. I
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: don't know. I would think Baker and all of his
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: frustrations and the doors that have been slammed in his face,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: and the having to rebuild his his stock in the
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: National Football League and having now rebuilt it, you would
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: think he'd be like, I'm just happy to be appreciated
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: playing football, being a millionaire, everything else. Why do you
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: have to compare yourself and your Wiener to all the
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: other expensive Wieners at your position in the National Football League.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: I don't think I can answer the Willer comparison.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: You can't answer the Wier.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: I can't That one is to leave that up to you.
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: But I do think, I mean, I wonder if part
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: of it is is him, and obviously part of it
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: is his agent, but I wonder if part of it
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: is the fact, you know well of taken you to
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: the playoffs and I am, I've done my job, And
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: but I do agree. It's similar to I think Patrick
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: Mahomes took less money. Tom Brady took some less money
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: so they could have the weapons so they could win.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I would why.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Would you want it to be an extended loca and
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: angry and then a disruption potentially, And he's already been
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: short with his answers, like, yeah, have your negotiation, but
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: I would make sure, like, you know what, guys, I
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: think I'm worth fifty, but let's win a super Bowl. Yeah,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: give me, give me the forty two.
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, let's meet in the middle here, and let's let's
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: go build a championship team. I mean, it's not like
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: when he's sixty, he's gonna sit there and go, oh,
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: only I had that extra ten year. You're going to
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: be look at a Super Bowl trophies and say, oh,
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: those look pretty good.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: I gotta dust that one.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Or you're gonna be looking at an empty trophy kit.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: You're gonna be looking at your heisman still and say, Man,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: it's a nice to have had a Super Bowl ring,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: wouldn't it. Wonder what I could have done differently? Let's talk.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Someone had told me quickly about Aaron Rodgers.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: I think you doubt everything Aaron Rodgers does. Uh So,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: what do you make of him mending fences with his
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: family this offseason, right before the season gets underway? What
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: what's your psychological read on that?
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think it's good because I think his
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: family was miserable. Was not miserable, but they were really
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: unhappy that he wouldn't talk to them. They didn't quite
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: understand what was going on. They had there was some
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: TV stuff that had been shown about them, and it
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: seemed like he was in the wrong in the situation.
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: I would at least assume when it's one person and
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: then the other four members of the family all get.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Along really well, but you're the.
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: One that's the outcast and you're the one that's a
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: little weird. So I think it shows growth for him,
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: which is it's about time.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: I hope it's a great thing. I really do. I
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: do wonder and maybe this is unfair of me. I
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: do wonder like he knows this is his last year,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: and so he would like to share that with his family,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: and I think that's a good thing. Yet it might
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: also be a little selfish, like in that last year,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: I don't want my family being distraction. I want them
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: to be there for me. And then if at the
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: end of the year he goes right back to his
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: old grudges, that would be I think, not productive. But
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: it does kind of sound like, Hey, this, I know
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: this is my last year. It would be nice that
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: if my family could share in this with me on
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: this journey as I'm getting ready to write this final chapter.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: That's how I kind of read it.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that is possible.
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: I was also thinking though, because now he's married and
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: he maybe wanting to start a fan of his own
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: and maybe his wife.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I wonder if the family gets to meet his wife.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah right, Yeah, they have to.
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: They have to be invited to the cave where she
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: apparently lives. But I wonder if she hadn't played a
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: part in it and said, like, this is stupid that
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: you don't talk to them.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Go talk to them.
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: We're going to start a family of our own. Maybe
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: maybe she's pregnant in the cave.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, that's the thing. I mean, it's dangerous to speculate.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: But that's why we talk about opik.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what else are we supposed to do?
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: I know you, I know what you like to do
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: out there. You're down with opek.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: I think she played a part in it.
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: They're about to start a family, and she wanted him
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: to mend his relationship with his.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, very reckless of us. Yeah, we'll let it stand. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: all right, one last thing next Sports Radio ninety three
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  Speaker 2: point three kh A r F M. All right, final
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  Speaker 2: segment of A very Busy Man. It was a busy
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  Speaker 2: show today for me anyway.
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  Speaker 3: It felt busy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, still busy. You you were busy.
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  Speaker 3: I felt busy.
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  Speaker 2: You were busy.
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  Speaker 3: I felt busy.
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  Speaker 2: I was busy too.
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  Speaker 3: Busy bees, look at us, just sharing a brain, a
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  Speaker 3: b brain.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's close things out with one last thing.
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  Speaker 2: What do you got?
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  Speaker 6: Well, you know a lot of people think that radio
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: is just the crazy ones, and we do all sorts
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: of wonky things. But I'm here to tell you apparently
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  Speaker 6: TV's crazier. Because Ryan Clark got laid off in the
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  Speaker 6: middle of a show yesterday?
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  Speaker 2: Is that not crazy?
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  Speaker 3: In the middle of a show you couldn't wait? Was
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: it that bad? He couldn't finish the show?
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  Speaker 2: Well, apparently it leaked out in the middle. He was
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  Speaker 2: the only one whose name leaked. Oh, so what happened
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  Speaker 2: was that the other three on the show, I think
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  Speaker 2: it was Laura Rutledge, Mina Kimes and somebody else they
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  Speaker 2: looked down at their phones and saw it, like on
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  Speaker 2: their email, so they knew and he didn't.
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  Speaker 3: He's oh, how awkward is that?
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: So they got to a commercial break and they didn't
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  Speaker 2: have any choice. They went to him and said, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you're off the show, come to my office.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, also, though, be better ESPN. You're going to
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  Speaker 3: have that leak out.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that is terrible, and you put those his coworkers
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  Speaker 6: in an awful position.
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  Speaker 3: I saw it too.
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  Speaker 6: It was a Carl Ravag, Tom Pelisaro, who.
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  Speaker 3: Just I thought went to ESPN, Did he not?
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  Speaker 6: Or because he was technically NFL network who was bought
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  Speaker 6: by ESPN.
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  Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah, Karl Ravage, That's what I saw.
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  Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, thirty people total, but uh, Vanya Bell,
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  Speaker 6: David Lloyd, Karl Ravich.
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  Speaker 2: Oh Man, David Lloyd's been there a long time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Clark was the first one to leak. I hadn't heard
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  Speaker 2: any of these other ones. Yeah, Clark and Ravage. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Charles Sara is also crazy because he just you're right,
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  Speaker 2: he just.
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  Speaker 3: Got Yeah, Charles Davis as well.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Man Pela Sarah, I didn't even know he rapaports the
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  Speaker 2: one that did. They both go.
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  Speaker 6: They both both bought network, right, so they both Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: so they were both part of esp again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. See there's by the way, there's a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of a rub between like Adam Schefter and all those
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  Speaker 2: NFL network guys, like they don't like each other very much.
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  Speaker 2: So my guess is when NFL Network, if there was
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  Speaker 2: some sort of absorption that Adam Schefter might have even
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: weighed in on that.
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  Speaker 3: Probably I'm speaking out of maybe he was the leaker.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe have the first on the show. That's the
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  Speaker 2: other guy.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: That was the other guy. He probably leaked it out
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  Speaker 3: to them.
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  Speaker 2: Way funny. He was breaking it because he has to
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: break the story he has. He feels compelled to break
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  Speaker 2: every story, and he broke the story right there in
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: the middle of the show. Bryan Clark has fired from
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: the ESPN as soon as he's done talking.
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  Speaker 6: And then when he was done, he looked at his
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: phone and got his eyes all big, like I just
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: got the same info that they got, right.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't mean to laugh. I don't. I don't
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  Speaker 2: celebrate things like.
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  Speaker 3: That, not at all.
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  Speaker 6: But it would be very Adam Schefter to have broken
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  Speaker 6: the news about it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't even know what is the reason for
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  Speaker 2: all of these like mass layoffs. You know, you're making
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: money hand over fist. What if the hell was happening?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Man couldn't tell you.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it's just a refurbishing of sorts.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Refurbishing, that's how they're gonna phrase it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I'm gonna close with this because we
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: didn't mention it much during the course of the show.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Here today we are talking about so many other things
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Mariner related. We had a lot of Mariner topics and
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: never really got to Julio. But he left another game.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, when the play went down, I saw because
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: I had this unique ability, and I truly believe it's unique.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I see injuries when they happened immediately by and I
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: can tell what's wrong. Usually while they're all speculating about, well,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: what do you think it is? Do you think it's
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: his hip? What do you think it is? Did he
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: bruises Pelvis. I'm sitting there yelling it's his me. Yeah.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: You know at the television when it's a hamstring every time.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Palmer knows their hamstrings. So I thought it
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: was a hamstring, like they weren't talking about it. But
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: you could see as he ran across for a space,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: he grabbed to the back right underneath his butt on
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  Speaker 2: the left side, and I'm like, good night, we just
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: got him back, and now he's gonna have an upper
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: hamstring pull yep. And so then he starts walking back
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: and they show the review and then you see that
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Elie dela Cruz's throw hit him in the buttock. Sure,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: I got struck in the buttock. And so at that
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  Speaker 2: point I'm like, oh, good thank goodness, it's not a
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  Speaker 2: ham shout.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: That's why he grabbed his butt. Yeah, that's where he
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: got hit.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: He just grabbed. I mean that would hurt. Elie dela
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Cruz throws one hundred miles per hour, so it would
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: hurt to get hit in the buttock with an Elied
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: de la Cruz throw, So I'm like, okay, good, and
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: then they come back from the break and he's gone,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, So did he hurt his hamstring?
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Then?
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Was that a hamstring grab? Because I can't imagine that
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: he would come out of a game after getting hit
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: in the butt talk, it's not like the fleshiest, mediest
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  Speaker 2: part of anyone's body.
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  Speaker 3: I would agree.
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  Speaker 6: I think that they were worried so they pulled him
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  Speaker 6: out because it was probably sore from getting hit, and
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: they were.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Like, well, who cares.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I just think.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I don't think he's seriously hurt. I'd be
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: surprised if he was.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Ah, I don't know, but yeah it was. I mean,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be relieved if it's not an upper amstring. Yeah. Uh,
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: but man, we're taking guys out because they got hit
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: in the butt with an errant ball.
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: Well, we also took George Kirby out just because he'd
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: done a good job and it seemed to be time.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: That really was that really was the reason. Yeah. I
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: wish I could argue, but based off of factual evidence,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: the reason they took George I was like, boy, you
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: really were good today. Sit down, buddy, who cares if
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: we win?
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: That's it?
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Good, good job, kidd Oh yeah, this isn't about winning.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Take the rest of the night off, all right, we'll
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: talk to you tomorrow at six am. Coming out next,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I believe it's Mike Benton back filling in for Greg Bell.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: That guy's trying to squeeze in one more vacation before
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: the football starts. And based on the photos, Greg's getting
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: his money's worth.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Oh I have photos.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: He is I sailing with old army buddies up in
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: the Northeast having a heck of a time. What a
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: what a guy? Yeah, what a jerk? All right, we'll
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