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MISSING Student Sudiksha Konanki Declared Dead, Last Person to See Her Back in the U.S. · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: In the last days, a judge makes a major ruling
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Speaker 2: on the student, the American student the last person to
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Speaker 2: see University of Pittsburgh girl Sudiksha Kananki before she disappeared,
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Speaker 2: a major ruling. I'm Nancy Grace. This is crime Stories.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for being with us. All eyes on the
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Speaker 2: DR Dominican Republic. When a beautiful young University of Pittsburgh student,
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Speaker 2: Sudiitsha Konanki, disappeared after a late night slash early morning
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Speaker 2: beach walk with another US student, wrestler Joshua reb According
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Speaker 2: to many, his statements were conflicting as he explained the
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Speaker 2: last time he saw Sadiksha after a careful examination of him,
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Speaker 2: I just agree while he added facts each time he
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Speaker 2: was questioned exhaustively, I might add by Dominican authorities. I
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Speaker 2: never saw a real conflict inconsistencies in what he said
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Speaker 2: that said. In the last hours, a judge in the
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Speaker 2: DR officially declares Iowa High School wrestling star Joshua Rebe,
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Speaker 2: clearing him of any involvement in the disappearance of University
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Speaker 2: of Pittsburgh students Juditsha Kunanki. This brings to an end
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Speaker 2: the high profile case that kept Rebe detained on the
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Speaker 2: Caribbean island for weeks. Judge Edwin Delgado reaffirms an earlier
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Speaker 2: decision that allowed Rebe, a senior Saint Cloud State University,
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Speaker 2: to come home.
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Speaker 1: What happened?
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Speaker 2: This beautiful young girl goes down to dr with friends.
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Speaker 1: They're out having a good time dancing.
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Speaker 2: They go so from moonlight, walk on the beach and
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Speaker 2: now all that's left is a sarong and some flip flops.
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Speaker 1: Listen.
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Speaker 3: The search intensifies after what is believed to be Kanaki's
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Speaker 3: sarong and flip flops are found on a beach chair.
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Speaker 3: Local news outlet CDN post images of a white netted
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Speaker 3: beach cover up and a pair of flip flops similar
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Speaker 3: to what Sudisha was wearing when she was last seen.
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Speaker 3: The photos of what could be Kanaki's belongings are seen
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Speaker 3: sprawled across a sun lounger and in the sand beside
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Speaker 3: the chair.
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Speaker 2: Why are they there, How did they get there, When
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Speaker 2: did they get there, how were they found? Where are
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Speaker 2: they tampered with? We're being told no, that's the biggest
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Speaker 2: clue we've got, other than some surveillance video and what
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Speaker 2: others have to say about the night Sudi just disappears
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Speaker 2: off the map.
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Speaker 1: Now, this is what her dad says. Everything was going
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Speaker 1: okay and she was really happy to have a laication
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Speaker 1: with our parents.
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Speaker 4: The next day she wanted to pu for her excussion,
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Speaker 4: and before that in the resort, she was fine with
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Speaker 4: the swimming pool.
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Speaker 1: That's our friends at ABC News.
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Speaker 2: This young girl a shining star University Pittsburgh, her world.
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Speaker 1: In front of her.
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Speaker 2: We've been told she was studying Premed, beautiful and brilliant.
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Speaker 2: Now all I've got left as a flip flop and
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Speaker 2: a sarong. Joining me in all star panel to makes
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Speaker 2: sense of what we are learning right now. Straight out
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Speaker 2: to Emily Layman joining us Northern Virginia local editor Patch
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Speaker 2: dot com. Emily, thank you for being with us. What happened?
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Speaker 2: What happened that night?
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Speaker 5: Tadiksha was on a spring break trip with five female friends.
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Speaker 5: It was reported that she got there on March third,
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Speaker 5: and then she was last seen in the early morning
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Speaker 5: of March. So they were at the hotel Rio Republica,
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Speaker 5: which is a popular spring break bought in Punta Khana
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Speaker 5: and the Dominican Republic. So surveillance footage shows that she
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Speaker 5: was headed to the beach with a group of friends,
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Speaker 5: and it was reported that there was a power outage
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Speaker 5: that prompted some of the hotel guests to go to
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Speaker 5: the beach in these early morning hours. But then the
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Speaker 5: surveillance footage shows that only some of that group returned
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Speaker 5: less than an hour later, and she was.
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Speaker 2: Not Some of that group does not include her. This
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Speaker 2: beautiful young girl missing Offspring Break DR. Now joining me
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Speaker 2: special guest, Sheriff Mike Chapman. He is joining us from
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Speaker 2: Laden County Sheriff's office.
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Speaker 1: He is the sheriff. And you may.
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Speaker 2: Wonder what does Sheriff Mike Chapman have to do with
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Speaker 2: this that she goes missing on spring break in the DR.
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Speaker 2: Sheriff Chapman, thank you for being with us, tell me
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Speaker 2: your involvement in her case.
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Speaker 4: Well, good to be with you.
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Speaker 6: And yeah, she's a resident of Loudon County. So we
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Speaker 6: received the missing personal report from her father on the
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Speaker 6: evening of the sixth, and immediately we got on that
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Speaker 6: got ahold of the embassy down there and started getting
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Speaker 6: their involvement because we want to find out, like everybody else,
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Speaker 6: exactly what happened here. We still consider her a missing person.
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Speaker 6: We're doing everything in our power to work with the
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Speaker 6: authorities down there, with the FBI, with other agencies that
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Speaker 6: are working with the Dominican Republic to see if we
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Speaker 6: can bring this thing to a successful conclusion. So she's
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Speaker 6: a resident of ours. We take every missing person seriously.
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Speaker 6: I've had an opportunity to meet with the father and
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Speaker 6: throwing my heart goes out. They're going through just to
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Speaker 6: try to set of circumstances right now, and we're doing
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Speaker 6: everything that we can to try to work with them,
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Speaker 6: with our Victim Assistant Unit kind of help with that
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Speaker 6: as well as doing everything we can to assist with
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Speaker 6: the investigation.
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Speaker 2: Sheriff Mike Chapman joining me from lowd County Sheriff's this
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Speaker 2: young girl is a resident along with her family there,
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Speaker 2: and Sheriff I can't imagine much worse than your child
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Speaker 2: going missing, and then your child going missing in another
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Speaker 2: jurisdiction across the ocean. You know, it seems like it's
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Speaker 2: a hop skipping a jump from the US, and it
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Speaker 2: is like, you know, an our flight, but it's.
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Speaker 1: A world away.
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Speaker 2: Their law enforcement is different, the way they process crime
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Speaker 2: scenes their interaction with victims family and Sheriff's conjuring up
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Speaker 2: horrible image of another young girl that goes on spring
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Speaker 2: break and is never seen again.
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Speaker 7: Listen tells me she doesn't want me to feel her up.
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Speaker 7: I insists, thank you, feeling her up either way. And
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Speaker 7: she needs me a sense of needing me in the crotch.
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Speaker 7: When she needs me in the crotch, I get up
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Speaker 7: on the beach and I kick her extremely hard in
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Speaker 7: the face. Yeah, she's laying down unconscious, possibly even even dead,
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Speaker 7: but definitely unconscious. And I see right next to her,
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Speaker 7: there's a there's a huge cinder block laying on the beach.
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Speaker 2: Just hearing the voice of your vanderslout, the judge's son
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Speaker 2: that murdered Natalie, it gives me a physical response. Now
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Speaker 2: that is the backdrop in everybody's mind in the search
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Speaker 2: for this beautiful young University Pittsburgh's student.
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Speaker 1: You know, Sheriff Chapman, that has to be on your mind.
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Speaker 1: Is she dead?
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Speaker 2: Is she a lot? Are we ever going to get
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Speaker 2: an answer because we never found Natalie's body.
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Speaker 6: Well, of course it is. And everything's a possibility right now.
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Speaker 6: That's why we send investigators down there. To actually get
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Speaker 6: a first hand account with Joshua Revey, the last person
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Speaker 6: that we know was with her, to try to get
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Speaker 6: his side of the story. There were some inconsistencies that
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Speaker 6: surfaced kind of early on, and we wanted to get
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Speaker 6: the information firsthand. I think those inconsistencies were minor, and
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Speaker 6: they probably had more to do with the translation from
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Speaker 6: at least to Spanish and vice versa. But that's why
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Speaker 6: we sent people down. We want to make sure we
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Speaker 6: get in the first hand account of what's going on there,
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Speaker 6: working with the Dominicans, working with the FBI down there,
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Speaker 6: because we just want to make sure that we don't
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Speaker 6: leave any stone unturned. And we are concerned, obviously, and
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Speaker 6: we want to do everything we can to help you
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Speaker 6: resolve this very very challenging and difficult situation.
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Speaker 2: I got to tell you something, Sheriff Mike Chapman, I
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Speaker 2: am so heartened and relieved that you.
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Speaker 1: Have sent your people down there.
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Speaker 2: I have study cases in the Islands, including in Mexico
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Speaker 2: as well, and it's a whole another system, it's a
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Speaker 2: whole another variety of law enforcement there. And knowing that
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Speaker 2: your people are there now the FBI has joined in,
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Speaker 2: is quite a comfort. Now, you mentioned that the main
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Speaker 2: person of interest as he is now called, has given
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Speaker 2: several different statements, But after analyzing the different statements, I'm
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Speaker 2: not sure how different they really are.
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Speaker 1: Let's listen.
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Speaker 8: In the first version of Reebey's account, he tells police
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Speaker 8: he and Kanonkey went into the water. He swallowed water
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Speaker 8: from the rough surf, which made him throw up, so
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Speaker 8: he went back to shore, but before leaving, he asked
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Speaker 8: k Donkey if she was okay. Reebe says he got
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Speaker 8: to the shore and threw up and laid down.
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's just analyze that, Okay, joining me as I
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Speaker 2: said an all star panel back to Sheriff Mike Chapman.
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Speaker 2: That is his, as it is called, his first statement.
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Speaker 2: Do you agree that that generally is his first statement?
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Speaker 6: That seems to be yes, that would be his first statement,
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Speaker 6: and that seems to be pretty consistent with what he said.
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Speaker 4: Since that time.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Let's take a listen to his so called second statement.
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Speaker 3: In Joshua Reebee's second version of events, he claims he
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Speaker 3: and Sadiksha are in waste deep water where they are
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Speaker 3: talking and kissing when a rogue wave crashes over them
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Speaker 3: and sweeps them into the current. Reebe claims they try
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Speaker 3: to call for help when they surface, but there is
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Speaker 3: no one around. Reebe further claims as a certified lifeguard,
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Speaker 3: he grabs Kanaki and holds her under his arm as
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Speaker 3: he tries to swim back to shore, all the while
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Speaker 3: trying to get her to breathe as he pulls them
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Speaker 3: back to the beach, but struggles to catch his breath.
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's analyze what we're hearing. I don't know if
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Speaker 1: you have ever found this to be true.
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Speaker 2: Joining me high profile lawyer Eric Fattus, trial lawyer, TV
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Speaker 2: Legal Analysts founding partner Varner Fattus Elite Legal. Eric statements
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Speaker 2: disturbed me when I find a discrepancy a conflict now
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Speaker 2: upon questioning, and they've been questioning this guy for hours
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Speaker 2: and hours and hours, why obviously they need a question
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Speaker 2: for hours and hours and hours.
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Speaker 1: He's the last one with her.
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Speaker 2: Everybody else leaves and leaves him, much like in the
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Speaker 2: Nalie Holloway case. Everybody her friends left her, the Calpo
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Speaker 2: brothers left them alone on the beach, and she's never
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Speaker 2: seen again. Okay, so with that as a backdrop, his
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Speaker 2: story changed your Vanderschlou's story changed dramatically. It was full
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Speaker 2: of conflicts, full of discrepancies.
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Speaker 1: But when you ask questions somebody for.
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Speaker 2: Hours, hours and hours and hours, and you ask them
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Speaker 2: different questions that may elicit embellishment, additional facts you didn't
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Speaker 2: hear the first time, not necessarily a conflict.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, Nancy, And looking at both statements, you know, the
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Speaker 9: second statement has significantly more detail. It kind of tells
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Speaker 9: more of a harrowing story of rescuing her from the sea,
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Speaker 9: which wasn't entirely present in the first statement. It's my
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Speaker 9: understanding that being said, like you mentioned, when there are
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Speaker 9: multiple interviews, it's not uncommon for additional details to come
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Speaker 9: out as as each subsequent interview is had because there
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Speaker 9: are new questions that are being asked. Their other details
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Speaker 9: the investigators have that they're prying into, and so it's
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Speaker 9: not entirely uncommon. And my read on it is similar
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Speaker 9: to that of the sheriffs.
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Speaker 2: Hmmm, okay, I want to believe you. I want to
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Speaker 2: believe the sheriff and impute nothing but good intentions on everyone.
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Speaker 1: But when you look at the.
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Speaker 2: Two statements, I mean it just to me, let me
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Speaker 2: go straight out to Ben Dobrain joining me Emergency Medical
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Speaker 2: Service Marine Dive Team. Ben, it seems to me that
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Speaker 2: if I had grabbed somebody, which I have with both
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Speaker 2: of my children, by the way, on separate occasions, and
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Speaker 2: pulled them to shore, that I would have mentioned that
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Speaker 2: the first time. The first time, he says, he and
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Speaker 2: she went into the water. He swallowed water which made
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Speaker 2: him throw up. He went back to shore. He asked
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Speaker 2: her if she was okay. He got to shore and
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Speaker 2: threw up and laid down. Second version, he adds they're
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Speaker 2: kissing and making out in waste deep water. A rogue
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Speaker 2: wade crashes over them, sweeps them out into the current.
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Speaker 2: They try to call for help, no one around, and
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Speaker 2: he holds her under his arm and tries to swim
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Speaker 2: back to shore, trying to get her to Breathe that
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Speaker 2: is a lot of information, Ben, that he actually grabbed
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Speaker 2: her and pulled her back to safety.
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Speaker 1: I didn't hear that the first time.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely. And you know an interesting thing is, yes he
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Speaker 4: was a lifeguard, but he was a pool lifeguard. And
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Speaker 4: I want to point out there's a very clear distinction
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Speaker 4: between a pool lifeguard and being an ocean lifeguard. There's
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Speaker 4: very different tests, and the water is very different every
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Speaker 4: report both versions. The water was rough. Rough water is
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Speaker 4: very different than pool water. The bottom is different. In
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Speaker 4: the ocean, it's sandy, there's holes, there's dips, whereas in
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Speaker 4: a pool, you know, it's a pretty solid footing and
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Speaker 4: it's very predictable where it is. So you could be
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Speaker 4: walking in the water in the ocean and hit a
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Speaker 4: hole and be overhead, you know, very quickly. But for
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Speaker 4: a pool trained the lifeguard, you know, to be doing
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Speaker 4: a rescue in the ocean, there's the waves and you know,
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Speaker 4: one report said that he kept her head out of water.
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Speaker 4: He was trying to keep her head out of water,
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Speaker 4: but his head kept going underwater. That tells me he
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Speaker 4: didn't know how to do an ocean rescue. And it's
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Speaker 4: believable for somebody who's just a pool train lifeguard. And
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Speaker 4: you know, if he was throwing up water, if you've
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Speaker 4: ever been, you know, near drowning, and that's what that was.
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Speaker 4: If he's saying he was throwing up water, that thing
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Speaker 4: near drowning, he was concerned at that point, you know,
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Speaker 4: we're dealing with his own issues and not looking after her.
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Speaker 4: Whether he brought her to shore, or whether he abandoned her,
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Speaker 4: like the first one of the early versions that he
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Speaker 4: abandoned her in waste water, thinking she could walk by
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Speaker 4: herself back, with the later version saying he brought her
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Speaker 4: to shore before he let her, you know go, But
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Speaker 4: either way, you know, he's.
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Speaker 1: Suposed to go in throwing up.
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Speaker 2: Maybe projecting here, but I had a very serious dive
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Speaker 2: accident off the coast of Cosmo and nearly drowned and
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Speaker 2: was throwing up water.
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Speaker 1: It was kind of my nose, my mouth.
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Speaker 2: If you're in that shape, I don't know how you
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Speaker 2: can look around and see anything that's going on, which
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Speaker 2: goes to his benefit and to his detriment, because he
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Speaker 2: says he's throwing up and not paying attention.
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Speaker 1: And he looked around as she was gone.
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Speaker 2: On the other hand, he also says this, now listen
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Speaker 2: to the third version.
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Speaker 8: Joshua Reebe gives a third version of events where he
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Speaker 8: heroically gets Sadisha Kononky back to shore, but says he
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Speaker 8: swallowed a lot of water and could have lost consciousness
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Speaker 8: several times. Reaching the ground of the beach, he pulls
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Speaker 8: Kanonki in front of himself and she casually walks together
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Speaker 8: her belongings in knee deep water. Reebe says he asks
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Speaker 8: her if she's okay, but doesn't hear an answer due
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Speaker 8: to vomiting all of the salt water He's followed while
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Speaker 8: saving Kananki. He says he looked around and doesn't see anyone.
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Speaker 8: Assume she grabbed her belongings and left. Feeling bad and tired,
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Speaker 8: Reebe says he fell asleep in a beach chair.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: In the last days, the Iowa High School wrestling star
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Speaker 2: Joshua Rebee has been cleared in the disappearance of a
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Speaker 2: gorgeous young university pit students rude Chi Kunaki's disappearance.
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Speaker 1: So much confusion clouded her case.
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Speaker 2: But I've got to tell you, I was very much
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Speaker 2: persuaded by Reebe's hours and hours of voluntarily speaking to
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Speaker 2: law enforcement in dr of him going to the scene
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Speaker 2: willingly answering questions, not lawyering up as we often see
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Speaker 2: happen in the US. Straight out to Sheriff Mike Chapman
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Speaker 2: and joining us from Laudon County Sheriff. He is the
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Speaker 2: sheriff there who has sent reps from his office from
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Speaker 2: his force down to the dr to try to find her.
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Speaker 2: I've got a question and to your understanding, why is
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Speaker 2: the FBI.
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Speaker 6: Involved, Well, they're the contact at the US embassy, probably
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Speaker 6: the the best to lead this investigation from a US standpoint,
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Speaker 6: But you have to remember that it's a Dominican republic
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Speaker 6: is so they it really is their investigation. So the
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Speaker 6: FBI is assisting and we're assisting. And one of the
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Speaker 6: things that you brought up before, Nancy was the fact
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Speaker 6: that it's a foreign country here, and people have to understand.
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Speaker 6: It may seem like America when you get there, because
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Speaker 6: you know, a resort like that, people are speaking English
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Speaker 6: and they're you know, it seems very friendly with a
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Speaker 6: lot of Americans there, But the fact is it's a
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Speaker 6: foreign country and there's a lot a lot of other
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Speaker 6: things that you have to deal with when you're when
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Speaker 6: you're in a foreign country. So we're assisting the FBI,
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Speaker 6: who was actually assisting the Dominican authorities there. And but
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Speaker 6: again I send my people down because we wanted to
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Speaker 6: get a first hand account and not here you know,
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Speaker 6: secondhand information.
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Speaker 2: You know, Sheriff, you've got a great record, You're beloved
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Speaker 2: and looked up to in your jurisdiction. But can we
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Speaker 2: just get real for a moment, the law enforcement in
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Speaker 2: the d R.
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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? You think I'm going to trust
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Speaker 1: a law enforcement in the DR?
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Speaker 2: No, I'm not.
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Speaker 1: You know, I started writing a book, Don't be a Victim.
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Speaker 1: I got to the DR.
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Speaker 2: I practically had to write a whole chapter for Pete's sake.
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Speaker 2: You think they've got touched DNA. You think they know
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Speaker 2: how to use a VACK at a crime scene or
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Speaker 2: complicated blood spatter or anything remotely like what we have
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Speaker 2: developed in the United States. Does that's a yes? No, Sheriff,
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Speaker 2: Do you really believe that their investigation even approaches what
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Speaker 2: we would consider a world class investigation like you would
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Speaker 2: find in your jurisdiction.
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Speaker 6: Well, I'm retiring from VA. I served three times overseas,
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Speaker 6: and you're right, Nancy, you can't. You know, there's a
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Speaker 6: huge difference between what our foreign counterparts can do and
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Speaker 6: what we can do and the capabilities that we have
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Speaker 6: in the US. I think the best thing that's going
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Speaker 6: on here right now is the fact that staying in
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Speaker 6: the news it kind of forces them to make sure
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Speaker 6: that they're on their game because they've got oversight they've got,
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Speaker 6: they've got everybody looking at it from across the globe.
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Speaker 6: Here with regards to the media, you have the FBI
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Speaker 6: that's looking at what they're doing down there, you have
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Speaker 6: us that's looking at what they're doing.
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Speaker 1: So the fact is that I.
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Speaker 6: Think all that helps hold them more accountable, and it
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Speaker 6: gives us the opportunity to share some of the capabilities
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Speaker 6: that we have with them. And I know, you know,
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Speaker 6: like the FBI, for example, I believe send a dive
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Speaker 6: team down so there's a lot, there's a lot that
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Speaker 6: we can offer there. And again it's a foreign country,
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Speaker 6: so we were trying to kind of help with them,
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Speaker 6: help guide them through it a little bit and make
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Speaker 6: sure they're not missing anything.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Sheriff Mike Chapman, you're being overly kind in your analysis,
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Speaker 2: in my opinion, because every foreign investigation into a US
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Speaker 2: citizen going missing.
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Speaker 1: Has gone sideways.
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Speaker 4: Listen, and when you say cinder block, looking at the
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Speaker 4: walls of this place is like those.
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Speaker 7: Exact shames in their blocks. I see you, Shinder Black
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Speaker 7: laying on the on the beach.
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Speaker 2: I take this and.
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Speaker 7: I smashed her head in with it, completely her face basically,
21:19
Speaker 7: you know, collapses in. Even though it's dark, I can
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Speaker 7: see her faces collapsed in.
21:25
Speaker 2: Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University, author of Blood Beneath My
21:28
Speaker 2: Feet on Amazon, star of a hit series of body
21:33
Speaker 2: Bags with Joseph Morgan. Joe Scott, you were with me
21:37
Speaker 2: in the courtroom there at the Hugo Black Federal Building
21:41
Speaker 2: with Beth Holloway. You just heard the double killer yourn
21:47
Speaker 2: Vandersloot describing how he murdered Natalie Holloway in Aruba.
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Speaker 1: And you recall, Joe Scott, that Beth and I went
21:59
Speaker 1: back to.
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Speaker 2: To try on our own to stir up find more clues,
22:06
Speaker 2: more anything to help find Natalie.
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Speaker 1: Your van der.
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Speaker 2: Slute was in court fourteen years later, and we still
22:19
Speaker 2: don't really know what happened to now.
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Speaker 1: The only thing I know is one thing that he
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Speaker 1: sex attacked her and he murdered her.
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Speaker 2: So all this about we're helping Dominican Republic. We better
22:36
Speaker 2: go there and take over the investigation.
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Speaker 1: And let them help us. You really think, Joe Scott.
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Speaker 2: Morgan, that they have adequately handled the investigation into where
22:49
Speaker 2: is Taditsha? No, they haven't, and we lost critical time,
22:55
Speaker 2: critical time.
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Speaker 10: Joe Scott Yeah, pressure, pressure, pressure is what has to
23:00
Speaker 10: constantly be applied in here, and you cannot take the
23:02
Speaker 10: spotlight off of this case. We've seen how these cases
23:05
Speaker 10: have gone over the years, and certainly Natalie's case is
23:10
Speaker 10: a benchmark in time relative to what can happen as
23:14
Speaker 10: memories begin to erode, and we don't want that to
23:17
Speaker 10: happen in this particular case. In the dr we have
23:21
Speaker 10: to continue to press and I would suggest as well,
23:24
Speaker 10: the party that she was with, and I'm talking about
23:27
Speaker 10: this fellow that she was last seen with. I'm talking
23:30
Speaker 10: about all of her friends that were there. They need
23:34
Speaker 10: to be sequestered, and they need to be pressed about
23:37
Speaker 10: all of the activities that they engaged in that evening
23:41
Speaker 10: relative to any kind of consumption of alcohol, her behavior
23:45
Speaker 10: prior to interacting with this young man, and then perhaps
23:48
Speaker 10: if they observed her interacting with him on any level,
23:52
Speaker 10: whether it be violent, whether it be romantic, as he
23:56
Speaker 10: has implied, if you will, and you know, my biggest
24:00
Speaker 10: thing here is were there any agents that were applied
24:04
Speaker 10: to her relative to things that she had consumed. Remember,
24:08
Speaker 10: one of the things that happened in the Holloway case
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Speaker 10: was that we had suspected for some period of time
24:15
Speaker 10: that there may have been some kind of a neebriant
24:18
Speaker 10: that was applied to her in her drinks at that
24:21
Speaker 10: particular time. I'm thinking about things like GHB, date rape drugs,
24:25
Speaker 10: those sorts of things. So word of warning here that
24:28
Speaker 10: needs to be because listen, don't we don't have her
24:33
Speaker 10: to do a talks draw on, Okay, so we can't
24:37
Speaker 10: tell you what's going on with her Talkscologically, all we
24:41
Speaker 10: have to rely upon are those people that were there
24:44
Speaker 10: as witnesses to what had happened prior to her going
24:48
Speaker 10: missing that night. That's going to be key.
24:50
Speaker 11: Ny A spring great trip takes a turn for the
24:54
Speaker 11: worst when twenty year old University of Pittsburgh students Zuditcha
24:58
Speaker 11: Kanunky vanishes after a night out.
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Speaker 2: We're friends. Let's see that video one more time. I
25:05
Speaker 2: want to make sure you see what I'm seeing. This
25:08
Speaker 2: is from our friend at know to see us, our
25:09
Speaker 2: friends that know to see us.
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Speaker 1: Now she's on the left.
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Speaker 2: Look there she goes throwing up. That's Sadiksha on the left.
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Speaker 2: A friend is there, see right there? Okay, they're talking
25:19
Speaker 2: to each other. But if you look on the right,
25:21
Speaker 2: we believe that is him, see him, we think on
25:26
Speaker 2: the right throwing up out by trash can now is
25:31
Speaker 2: that everyone else's understanding or is that what we're seeing?
25:35
Speaker 2: Let's just start it over one more time, which leads
25:38
Speaker 2: me to Joe Scott Morgan's question, what did they ingest
25:43
Speaker 2: that's making them throw up?
25:46
Speaker 1: Okay, take a listen to this.
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Speaker 8: Sadikha Kinanki and five college friends arrive in the Dominican
25:52
Speaker 8: Republic on March third. They've booked rooms at the all
25:55
Speaker 8: inclusive resort Rio Republica impunt Takana. A couple of days later,
25:59
Speaker 8: Sadeksha and her friends are dancing in a disco when
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Speaker 8: the resort experiences a twenty five hour power outage in
26:04
Speaker 8: some areas. The group of six women and two men
26:06
Speaker 8: decide to go for a moonlight walk on the beach.
26:08
Speaker 8: Surveillance videos document Sidiksha Kananki in five women along with
26:12
Speaker 8: two men, walking toward the beach. About an hour later,
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Speaker 8: surveillance footage shows five women and one man leaving the beach.
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Speaker 8: Kananki apparently stays behind on the beach with Joshua Reeve,
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Speaker 8: a twenty four year old spring breaker from the US.
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Speaker 2: Okay, guys, you are seeing more from our friends at
26:26
Speaker 2: SI N. Take a look at this.
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Speaker 1: Now we are seeing the two of them walking.
26:31
Speaker 2: Ok Now, I understand that this is after There they are, Yes,
26:37
Speaker 2: there they are, and that is consistent with what he
26:41
Speaker 2: was wearing when he was vomiting. Remember in that video
26:44
Speaker 2: you see the white sneakers, the white sox, the shorts,
26:48
Speaker 2: and the backpack. That's why we believe that was him
26:52
Speaker 2: vomiting at a trash can outside. Now you've got another view.
26:56
Speaker 2: This is for our friends at SIN surveillance video.
26:59
Speaker 1: Catch there. You see the group, they're all walking to
27:03
Speaker 1: the beach, arm in arm there you go. Now what
27:08
Speaker 1: happened after that?
27:10
Speaker 2: To doctor Chloe Carmichael, joining US clinical psychologist and author
27:14
Speaker 2: of Nervous Energy Harness, The Pair of Your Anxiety and
27:17
Speaker 2: you can find her on Twitter at doctor Chloe, Doctor Chloe.
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Speaker 1: As Sheriff Mike Chapman was saying earlier, it feels like
27:27
Speaker 1: the US, and that gives you the.
27:32
Speaker 2: Suggestion of safety that you understand what's around you, that
27:38
Speaker 2: you understand what's happening.
27:40
Speaker 1: Typically, you go into.
27:42
Speaker 2: A bar and you're dancing and have a good time
27:43
Speaker 2: with your friends. In the US, it's unlikely it happens,
27:48
Speaker 2: but it's unlikely you're going to get drug to start
27:51
Speaker 2: throwing up. It's unlikely you're going to be separated from
27:54
Speaker 2: your friends. It can happen, but you're functioning. Maybe it's
27:57
Speaker 2: because you're on vacation.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what it is. Your defenses are down
28:02
Speaker 1: and you're functioning in a bubble.
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Speaker 12: Explain that, Yeah, Nancy, I agree, there's something really strange.
28:11
Speaker 12: You know, even for spring break, it's definitely noteworthy that
28:15
Speaker 12: they're sitting there at a bar with their friends, everyone's
28:18
Speaker 12: dressed up, looking nice, and then they're literally sitting there puking,
28:22
Speaker 12: but they don't even seem bothered by it. It really
28:26
Speaker 12: does point to a serious possibility of, you know, maybe
28:30
Speaker 12: taking ecstasy or drugs where you kind of expect to
28:33
Speaker 12: throw up before you then start to feel good.
28:35
Speaker 13: And it makes me wonder. Since that young man pictured
28:39
Speaker 13: obviously appears to be a wrestler, I wonder if he's
28:42
Speaker 13: on a wrestling scholarship. I wonder if that's holding him
28:45
Speaker 13: back from coming forward and saying, yeah, I was taking
28:48
Speaker 13: illegal drugs and there was you know, I didn't intend
28:51
Speaker 13: to hurt her, but you know, something went wrong with
28:54
Speaker 13: the drugs, and maybe he's concerned about losing his scholarship.
28:59
Speaker 13: I'm not sure because she doesn't fit the profile of
29:03
Speaker 13: a serious risk seeker, right. You know, she's very organized,
29:06
Speaker 13: she's in a pre med program. She's only there on
29:09
Speaker 13: a vacation, so something about it definitely seems strange. I
29:13
Speaker 13: would also be curious since he says that he went
29:16
Speaker 13: and fell asleep in a chair. That doesn't sound like
29:19
Speaker 13: somebody who's guilty and trying to evade the scene of
29:22
Speaker 13: a crime. We have a lot of video of him
29:24
Speaker 13: before the incident. I'm curious about the first time that
29:26
Speaker 13: he appears on video after the disappearance.
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Speaker 1: I agree with you. Now this is what he says happens. Listen.
29:33
Speaker 8: After the night on the beach, Kanaki's friends go on
29:35
Speaker 8: an excursion that Kanaki had not signed up for so
29:38
Speaker 8: they don't miss her. As they head out at eight
29:40
Speaker 8: fifty five am, Joshua Reebe returns to his hotel room alone,
29:44
Speaker 8: without his shoes or a shirt. It's only after Sadisha's
29:47
Speaker 8: friends return that afternoon they realized they don't know where
29:50
Speaker 8: Sidisha is. Tracking down Joshua Reebe, he says he passed
29:54
Speaker 8: out on the beach and when he awoke, he was
29:55
Speaker 8: alone and went to his hotel room, assuming Kanaki had
29:58
Speaker 8: already done the same. Bye, it's been twelve hours since
30:01
Speaker 8: she was last seen.
30:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to look at the video again. But
30:05
Speaker 2: to Eric Fattus, what about a cell phone?
30:09
Speaker 9: The cell phone is always a critical piece of evidence
30:12
Speaker 9: in a case like this.
30:13
Speaker 1: It needs to be looked into a little more further.
30:15
Speaker 9: I think when you look at that video that we
30:17
Speaker 9: just saw of the two walking near the hotel at night,
30:21
Speaker 9: really has what appears to be a cell phone in
30:23
Speaker 9: his hand, sort of documenting what's going on. Common sense
30:25
Speaker 9: would tell us that that could be his cell phone.
30:29
Speaker 9: But later in some reports I've read, he tells police
30:32
Speaker 9: that after he's at the beach, he goes back to
30:34
Speaker 9: his own room to get his cell phone.
30:38
Speaker 1: So when did he drop it off?
30:40
Speaker 9: Is there some sort of evidence of that, Did someone
30:42
Speaker 9: go with him? Is there a witness statement to corroborate that.
30:45
Speaker 9: What is going on with the cell phone and what
30:46
Speaker 9: might it show about what happened?
30:48
Speaker 2: We're learning, good point, Eric Fattus. We're learning more about
30:52
Speaker 2: the timeline now, the vomiting. The vomiting video.
30:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, there it is. There's what believe is his.
31:01
Speaker 2: Cell phone, you're right, Eric, And it looks like he's
31:04
Speaker 2: videoing a selfie video.
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Speaker 1: You're right?
31:07
Speaker 2: Is that his?
31:08
Speaker 1: Or is that hers? And has her cell.
31:10
Speaker 2: Phone been found? The vomiting incident is around four five am. Okay,
31:20
Speaker 2: now listen to this.
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Speaker 14: CCTV helps start a timeline for Joshua Rebe starting around
31:26
Speaker 14: four am when he is seen with his arm draped
31:28
Speaker 14: around Sudeitsha Kanonkey as they are headed to the beach
31:31
Speaker 14: at the resort. Joshua Rebe is spotted on CCTV walking
31:35
Speaker 14: back alone from the beach at eight fifty five am.
31:38
Speaker 14: Suditsha is not seen on CCTV.
31:40
Speaker 1: Returning from the beach.
31:42
Speaker 2: So we've got four five they're throwing up and walking
31:46
Speaker 2: toward the beach. And now look at this shot. This
31:49
Speaker 2: is the shot we're talking about eight fifty five Between
31:55
Speaker 2: four five am and eight fifty five am, this happens, Okay,
32:01
Speaker 2: Sheriff Mike Chapman way in, Well, I can.
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Speaker 6: Tell you you know, we're we are looking at the phones,
32:09
Speaker 6: we have the numbers. There's there is work that's being
32:11
Speaker 6: done on that. I can't really go into the detail
32:13
Speaker 6: on that. We do have some extensive investigation that's being
32:17
Speaker 6: done on that, and that's going to take a little
32:20
Speaker 6: a little bit of time to get that information back.
32:22
Speaker 6: But it's not it's not anything that's been an oversight
32:26
Speaker 6: on the investigator's part. We are again working with the FBI,
32:29
Speaker 6: working with our counterparts and trying to do the best
32:32
Speaker 6: we can to get as much information as we can
32:34
Speaker 6: with regards to the phones.
32:35
Speaker 2: When you say, as much information as you can regarding
32:37
Speaker 2: the phones, Sheriff Chapman, have they found both of their phones?
32:43
Speaker 6: Again, I can't really get into that. What I can
32:45
Speaker 6: tell you is that we do have the numbers of
32:49
Speaker 6: I believe everybody who is down there involved, and there
32:53
Speaker 6: is there is some technical work that's being done on that.
32:56
Speaker 4: But again that's you know.
32:58
Speaker 6: It's part of the ongoing investigation and really they can't
33:02
Speaker 6: really discuss that a whole lot more.
33:04
Speaker 2: After careful analysis, there's not that much difference in what
33:10
Speaker 2: he's saying in his multiple versions. Also, according to a
33:15
Speaker 2: Kananki family friend, he was very helpful.
33:19
Speaker 1: Listen to what they told our friends at ABC.
33:22
Speaker 15: We walked to the beach along with the boy, and
33:24
Speaker 15: the boy helped us, and he was annoying us, kind
33:29
Speaker 15: of like what really happened and where he was?
33:32
Speaker 1: Our friends at ABC Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
33:49
Speaker 2: Joshua Reebe, the Iowa high school wrestling star, is home
33:55
Speaker 2: back on US soil after a Dominican Republic judge officially
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Speaker 2: clears him. It was a nightmare for both Reebe's family
34:04
Speaker 2: and the family of a gorgeous young University pit student,
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Speaker 2: Sudiksha Kananki.
34:11
Speaker 11: The investigation intensifies for missing twenty year old Pittsburgh student
34:15
Speaker 11: Sudiitsha Kanonky.
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Speaker 1: The last see him on the beach well on a
34:19
Speaker 1: spring break trip with friends. Where is Sudiksha? How is it?
34:26
Speaker 2: She goes out to the beach, she is kissing a
34:30
Speaker 2: guy and about waste deep water, and suddenly she's washed
34:35
Speaker 2: out to see.
34:37
Speaker 1: Rebe the well. It's a so called person of interest.
34:42
Speaker 2: But now we're learning that dr is backtracking saying he's
34:45
Speaker 2: not really a person of interest.
34:47
Speaker 1: He's a witness.
34:49
Speaker 2: Now I find that really interesting that they're holding him there.
34:53
Speaker 2: He can't believe they've got his passport yet. He's just
34:56
Speaker 2: a witness. Let me ask you about that, or Brant.
35:00
Speaker 2: Now I am transposing the US justice system onto the
35:05
Speaker 2: dr which was anything but true. But you have to
35:10
Speaker 2: be a POI or a suspect or be named a
35:15
Speaker 2: material witness by a court before you can have your
35:20
Speaker 2: passport taken, seized and forced to stay there.
35:24
Speaker 1: At least that's a law in the US. What's happening, Well,
35:28
Speaker 1: it's exactly what you said, Nancy.
35:30
Speaker 16: We view these things as we would view them in
35:33
Speaker 16: the US, which once you leave the US, it's completely different.
35:40
Speaker 1: Their country, their rules, and not in a good way
35:44
Speaker 1: or not in a good way.
35:45
Speaker 16: No, I no, I agree in most cases, Nancy, I
35:49
Speaker 16: worked extensively outside of the country and it's very frustrating.
35:54
Speaker 16: But each country has their own way of doing things.
35:58
Speaker 16: And if they take his passport, then they take his
36:02
Speaker 16: passport and he can leave until they tell him he
36:05
Speaker 16: can leave.
36:05
Speaker 2: I've never accused you of putting perfume on the pig,
36:09
Speaker 2: but I guess I'll have to do it for the
36:10
Speaker 2: first time right now or brand. Every country has their
36:13
Speaker 2: own way of doing things, you mean, their own way
36:15
Speaker 2: of botching up an investigation. Wouldn't that be a little
36:18
Speaker 2: more accurate, just like Innaruba.
36:20
Speaker 1: Yes, that would be more accurate.
36:22
Speaker 16: Nancy, I'm being far too nice.
36:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know why, because every hour counts.
36:29
Speaker 2: If she is still alive and there is that possibility
36:33
Speaker 2: anything could have happened to her, every hour counts.
36:37
Speaker 1: And while we are.
36:38
Speaker 2: Tiptoeing around the fact that the DR is screwing this up,
36:41
Speaker 2: that's one more hour lost Earth, one more hour, Thank Heaven, Chapman,
36:48
Speaker 2: send his people down in the FBI are involved.
36:51
Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Scott helped me out. Am I just
36:53
Speaker 1: screaming down the window going down Third Avenue.
36:57
Speaker 2: Every hour counts here, and we can't really on the
37:00
Speaker 2: DR to do anything.
37:02
Speaker 4: One of the.
37:02
Speaker 10: Biggest concerns for me, Nancy, is the idea that this
37:06
Speaker 10: is not like a broad spectrum approach relative to an investigation.
37:10
Speaker 10: If they're only focused on this one kid here, this
37:13
Speaker 10: one guy they that she was last seen with, you're
37:17
Speaker 10: going to miss other things along the way. I have
37:20
Speaker 10: a real issue with both of these, both of these
37:23
Speaker 10: individuals almost throwing up simultaneously at that bar. I want
37:28
Speaker 10: to know if there's any other kind of illness that
37:31
Speaker 10: could be associated there on there, and I want to
37:34
Speaker 10: know if anybody's been following this.
37:36
Speaker 2: J Scott, do you recall the extensive investigation we did
37:41
Speaker 2: into alcohol poisoning at these all inclusive result resorts that
37:47
Speaker 2: have ended in the deaths of several Americans. You go
37:51
Speaker 2: to a bar, you have something to drink. Is bootleg
37:54
Speaker 2: whiskey put in a US bottle? Okay, it might say
37:59
Speaker 2: Seagrams or something else on the front, but you're getting
38:01
Speaker 2: some hooch made of somebody's garage.
38:04
Speaker 1: Okay, No, look that's happening.
38:08
Speaker 10: Dave and I just covered cases out of Southeast Asia
38:11
Speaker 10: involved in methanol, and they're a huge group of these
38:14
Speaker 10: cases that have happened in Turkey as well, Nancy. Where
38:18
Speaker 10: you're not using ethanol, which is what we consume alcohol wise,
38:22
Speaker 10: they make bootleg hooch or bathtub gin out of methanol,
38:27
Speaker 10: which is very, very dangerous stuff. I want to know
38:30
Speaker 10: if there's any other instances down in the dr at
38:33
Speaker 10: this specific resort that have led and it can lead
38:37
Speaker 10: to things like blindness, nausea, and ultimately death. I want
38:41
Speaker 10: to know if anybody else was presenting that way that night.
38:44
Speaker 10: That's what I mean by broad spectrum here. You can't
38:46
Speaker 10: just narrow your focus down to this one event. We
38:49
Speaker 10: want to know what else was going on around them
38:52
Speaker 10: that night, and again, this could be a PR nightmare
38:55
Speaker 10: for the dr if there is any kind of problem
38:58
Speaker 10: with an alcohol down like it was.
39:00
Speaker 2: A PR nightmare for Aruba and Natalie went missing, tourism
39:04
Speaker 2: from the US skyrocketed.
39:06
Speaker 1: Okay, so when you don't know a horse, look at
39:09
Speaker 1: the track.
39:10
Speaker 2: Record, when you don't know what's gonna happen, look at
39:12
Speaker 2: what already did happen.
39:13
Speaker 1: But I agree with you, Joe Scott. We can't get
39:16
Speaker 1: total vision on Rebe. Now.
39:20
Speaker 2: Yes, I've got a problem with him. Of course I've
39:22
Speaker 2: got a problem with him. He's the last one with
39:24
Speaker 2: a girl in All I've got is a flip flop
39:26
Speaker 2: and a sarong. He's the last one with her, and
39:29
Speaker 2: his story is all over the map, not necessarily consistent though,
39:35
Speaker 2: So yes, I'm looking at him, but total vision is
39:38
Speaker 2: not going to help find her.
39:41
Speaker 1: And as a matter of fact, this is what people
39:43
Speaker 1: that know Rebee have to say. Josh was just so polite.
39:48
Speaker 1: He was a good teenmate in sports, and he was
39:51
Speaker 1: part of the boy scout troop.
39:53
Speaker 5: Never heard of girl you No, I don't know what happened,
39:57
Speaker 5: but there's no way he would have intentionally been aren't
40:00
Speaker 5: in any scheme to do something to her.
40:02
Speaker 1: From our friends at GMA, authorities are looking at on
40:07
Speaker 1: Iowa Man believed to be the.
40:09
Speaker 11: Last person to see missing University of Pittsburgh students Tuditcha Kanunki.
40:16
Speaker 1: Also under the microscope. Two THENMO payments.
40:20
Speaker 2: One we don't know exactly what it is, but Sudiksha
40:23
Speaker 2: put an emoji of a sailboat beside the VENMO payment,
40:28
Speaker 2: you know, you can put a little message in there.
40:30
Speaker 2: And the other one is to replaced Coco Bongo to
40:33
Speaker 2: Emily Layman joining us from past dot Com, explained to
40:38
Speaker 2: me about the two venmos and where they fit into
40:40
Speaker 2: the timeline.
40:41
Speaker 5: They've fit in the timeline because those are the last
40:45
Speaker 5: VENMO transactions that she had, and these are you know,
40:49
Speaker 5: you think, payments that she would send between friends for
40:53
Speaker 5: the activities that they were doing when they were on
40:56
Speaker 5: their spring break trip. But one of them, of course,
41:00
Speaker 5: you don't really know much about because all it has
41:01
Speaker 5: is a sailboat emoji, and we don't really know much
41:03
Speaker 5: information about who that went to. And then the other one,
41:09
Speaker 5: of course, you know, I went to who was confirmed
41:12
Speaker 5: to be a friend with her on the trip. But
41:15
Speaker 5: we don't know who else was at that nightclub.
41:20
Speaker 2: The thinking is the sailboat emerging emoji indicates it could
41:24
Speaker 2: have been an excursion. And like doctor Chloe Carmichael was
41:27
Speaker 2: telling us earlier, you kind of suspend your reality. You're
41:32
Speaker 2: functioning under the illusion that you're safe. You meet a
41:36
Speaker 2: guy and you immediately go for a walk on the
41:38
Speaker 2: beach and go out in the water with him alone.
41:41
Speaker 1: Why why?
41:42
Speaker 2: Of course she's young, But it's happened before, and not
41:47
Speaker 2: just with Natalie Holloway.
41:48
Speaker 17: Robin Gardner needed a get away. Gardner had met Gary
41:52
Speaker 17: Giordano on match dot Com a year before. Friends say
41:55
Speaker 17: the two weren't super close and had a platonic relationship,
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Speaker 17: but stating contact via email. When the invitation came, Robin
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Speaker 17: said yes, and the pair arrived in Aruba July thirty.
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Speaker 15: First, I was told that she was lost at sea,
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Speaker 15: and I just found that very surprising because I know
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Speaker 15: that she really doesn't swim or get into the water
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Speaker 15: because she has extensions and her.
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Speaker 4: Makeup and got all gold up, and she.
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Speaker 15: Just didn't want to ruin that.
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Speaker 2: And that was Robin's sister talking to me, and apparently
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Speaker 2: with Robin Gardner's case, she just washed out to see okay,
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Speaker 2: although she would never have gotten in the water after
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Speaker 2: just having.
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Speaker 1: Her hair done. And there's more. What about Wesley Bell?
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Speaker 8: Ex's native Wesley Bell is in the Bahamas attending a
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Speaker 8: yoga retreat on Paradise Island in NASA. The Seven Andra
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Speaker 8: Ashram Yoga Retreat, Bahamas featured in The New York Times
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Speaker 8: Gwyneth Paltrow's Goop and huff Post as a top travel destination.
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Speaker 8: Danielle Ward Packard, who was at the retreat at the
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Speaker 8: same time as Belle, says he walked off by himself
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Speaker 8: to snorkel one day and never returned. Searches are conducted,
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Speaker 8: but Belle has never found and Taylor Casey. Taylor Casey
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Speaker 8: goes missing from the same Behavian retreat. Casey disappears about
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Speaker 8: halfway through getting a yoga instructor's certification at seven Hundron
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Speaker 8: Ashron Yoga. Last scene at the Ashram, She's reported missing
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Speaker 8: after failing to show up for morning classes. Police find
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Speaker 8: her phone in the water days later, but haven't been
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Speaker 8: able to access its contents, and she remains missing.
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Speaker 2: To Sheriff Mike Chapman, how is it people just walk
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Speaker 2: out in the water and they're never seen again according
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Speaker 2: to reports.
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Speaker 1: Don't you find that disturbing, Sheriff, of.
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Speaker 6: Course, I mean if that was the case in this case,
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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, you certainly would hope for a recovery,
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Speaker 6: a quick recovery, but that hasn't happened. So that's why
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Speaker 6: we can't really jump on of conclusions just jamp but yeah,
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Speaker 6: it's a shame, but it does happened.
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Speaker 4: From time to time.
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Speaker 2: Joshua Reebe is home on us soil after much drama,
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Speaker 2: much fear, much suffering on the part of his family
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Speaker 2: in Dominican Republic. They flew there to bring their son home. Sadly,
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Speaker 2: Sudicia Konaki's family may never bring their daughter home. While
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Speaker 2: we send our prayers to Sudha's family, we are relieved,
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Speaker 2: along with Reebe's family, that their son is home.
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Speaker 1: Goodbye friend.