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Drive Thru News #33 - Let’s make every day... Earth day! · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  Welcome to drive through episode number three.
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  This is our monthly recap, where we put together a main view of automotive.
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  Motorsport and random car.
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  I see the L he showed up.
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  This episode is probably going to be recorded on some sort of
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  recycled digital media, right?
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  It is Earth Day after all.
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  Earth Day is April 22nd.
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  It's Earth Day.
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  E R F.
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  Well, I mean, it's 420, so maybe we should all have green backgrounds.
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  Earth.
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  That's why it's E R F earth.
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  It's herb day.
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  It's oh, there we go.
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  It's herb day.
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  I like it.
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  Tanya is in a really good mood.
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  420 at the time of this recording, this month's drive through.
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  For the first time in three, three episodes, we are going to focus
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  on Earth Day, Green Initiatives, EVs and Concepts and the like.
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  Well, before we start, I want to apologize to Mark Hewitt.
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  I don't know for what yet, but I'm going to go ahead and apologize to him now.
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  This is going to turn into the Jimmy Kimmel saying, we're sorry, Matt Damon.
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  We don't have enough time for you today.
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  We'll, we'll get you next week.
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  I apologize, Mark Hewitt, for whatever I do this month that I shouldn't have.
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  So.
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  There you go, but thanks for listening.
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  Yeah, absolutely.
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  Thanks for listening.
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  We appreciate your support.
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  Previous months.
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  I kept talking about an event that was coming up at Watkins
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  Glenn called the green Grand Prix.
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  Maybe it just flew by your desk.
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  Maybe you stopped and listened to the pre release episode that we put out.
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  What exactly is the green Grand Prix?
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  It's been going on for 19 years now, sponsored by Toyota.
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  It used to be in the old days, they would do a time distance
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  rally around Lake Seneca.
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  It was about 80 miles around the lake.
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  It's evolved over the years.
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  It's held at Watkins Glen International, and it's basically 80 miles of the track,
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  which comes out to roughly 26 laps of the track over about a 90 minute period.
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  And what was the point of the event?
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  So it's a memorial event for Doris Bovee.
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  And basically she was an environmentalist very much about, you know, the
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  green initiative, all this kind of stuff, even going back 20 years.
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  And so this event is in honor of her.
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  It's a time distance rally.
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  It really kicked off in the early days of the Prius to help showcase
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  the early hybrids and stuff like that.
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  And so they've continued to perpetuate the event, grow the event.
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  It's actually become a STEM event as well.
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  So a lot of the participants are from surrounding colleges and universities.
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  They invited 1200 people to this event, which was pretty cool.
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  The whole point of the thing was to do the 80 laps in a certain amount of time.
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  And.
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  I was invited to not only participate in the event, but cover the event from
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  different perspectives, being part of the media team that was there, we live
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  streamed multiple portions of the day.
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  I didn't really know what to expect, right?
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  I've done some other rallies and gym kind of like things in the
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  past, but I've never done a TSD.
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  I was very fortunate to go into this event with my family.
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  Quote unquote alternative fuel vehicle, which by their definition
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  was alternative to gasoline.
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  So diesel does qualify for that.
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  And in full disclosure, they had to kind of like hem and
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  haw about it and get approval.
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  And then finally they go, okay, cool.
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  I'm out there in my, you know, 5, 000 pound Jeep diesel and, you
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  know, live streaming from the truck and all this kind of stuff, you
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  know, I wasn't expecting anything.
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  I kind of had an idea of what it might do, but I really wasn't expecting
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  the day to play out the way it did.
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  Time distance rally by yourself with no navigator is more challenging
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  than I thought it would be, you know, kind of talking to some of
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  the folks that won overall and kind of looking at the scores and stuff.
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  And I was like, well, how did you guys do it?
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  And they're like, Oh, well, we're calculating as we're going along, how
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  quickly we should be going down the straightaway and, you know, how much
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  speed we can scrub off and all this kind of stuff to really maintain that
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  average lap speed around the track.
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  And so I was sort of going at it.
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  Too much of face value like, all right, I'm just going to set the cruise
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  control and we'll do what we can do.
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  But in reality, the more I looked at it, my lap times were consistent.
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  I don't know.
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  I wasn't really hitting the, maybe the number that I was supposed to be hitting.
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  My lap should have been slower.
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  I noticed that some of the folks that during the award ceremony had won.
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  I had passed those cars.
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  I was like, man, they're going really slow.
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  So you had a target mile per hour that you had to be 46
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  miles per hour was your target.
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  Correct.
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  It's the average lap speed.
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  Even though I was talking to the live stream, I was sort
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  of kind of thinking about it.
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  They gave you a window.
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  You weren't supposed to go slower than 35 or faster than 55.
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  And so somewhere in that window.
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  You can achieve an average lap speed of 46, which is the
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  number they said was the target.
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  And my aim solo was actually showing me the ranges of my upper and lower
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  miles per hour, which was pretty cool.
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  And I was falling in that range.
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  Except when I did 70 to get around the Mustang.
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  But you know, the race is over.
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  I can say that now.
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  I've driven around Watkins Glen several times.
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  You go into some of those turns a lot faster than 46 miles an hour.
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  So why not just set the cruise at 46 miles an hour and let the vehicle
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  just take you around the track?
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  So that was my initial goal.
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  And I thought that was going to be the plan for the Jeep.
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  Just lock it in at 46 and call it a day.
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  The problem is with the cruise control, when you started to go
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  downhill, it would put on the brakes.
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  So rather than do that, what I would let it do is I would kill the cruise control.
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  I would let it speed up a little bit and then I would trail break in
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  like, especially like turn six, just.
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  Ease the brakes into nose it in to allow it to come through, but
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  like turn nine, it's a slow turn.
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  It's tight.
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  I wasn't confident with the cheap, although I did push it through there
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  a little faster towards the end.
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  Cause I wanted to see under acceleration with the all wheel
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  drive, it'll pull through.
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  It's not a problem.
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  So I was a little nervous, right?
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  I didn't want.
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  To really upset the vehicle so much, yes, I could have gone faster, but
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  I think the lap conditions when you're racing are different because
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  you're planning your breaking zones.
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  You're not just trying to do the BMW school thing where you
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  throw it in with no brakes.
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  So there's a little level of apprehension that you have
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  to overcome when you do that, especially in a 5, 000 pound vehicle.
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  It's not the same as in a GTI where you could, yeah, just turn
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  the wheel and who cares, you know?
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  Yeah, I would have been curious how my TDI would have done because its cruise control
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  is very tight where some cars you go down a hill and suddenly you're like, I'm doing
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  10 miles an hour faster because like, it's got such a ban before it like catches
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  itself and comes back to set point.
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  I see very little movement in my cruise control, whether it's going up a hill
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  or down a hill, it reacts very quickly.
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  I'd be curious to see how it would do.
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  And apparently my car would be not eligible because I don't have stock tires.
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  Well, that should be easy to overcome.
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  We can find a stock set of wheels and tires around.
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  Well, you're running a 225.
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  40, 17.
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  That's a stock size.
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  The stock that came on the car.
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  Oh, he came with 15.
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  No, no, no, no, no.
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  Hold on.
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  It is a OE size for a Mark four golf period full stop
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  because SCCA is weird like that.
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  If you go to them and say, this is the stock available OE size.
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  Oh, if that's the rule, I interpreted the rule.
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  Meaning if you bought that car.
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  It came with like 185s or something.
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  That's the leeway that they give you in the SEC rule book.
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  So that is an manufacturer size that is legal on that car.
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  Well, then I could have been there and I would have gotten
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  first place for diesel category.
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  Yeah, there you go.
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  And you just answered another one of my questions.
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  Who put this event on?
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  So it was SCCA?
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  Correct.
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  It's an SCCA event.
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  Now, you said your alternative fuel vehicles, but there were
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  911s and Mustangs and stuff there.
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  So really, if you just want to go and drive Watkins Glen, sign up for the event.
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  Yeah.
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  A hundred percent, a hundred percent.
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  But I believe if you have a non petrol car that isn't a diesel, or so if
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  you have a gas car, I think you're kind of moved down the priority list.
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  Like they hold you.
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  And if there's open slots and then you can get in, they give priority to
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  the alternative fuel vehicles first.
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  I mean, that makes sense.
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  It is.
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  After all a green green Grand Prix.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  I thought all the cars were supposed to be green.
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  I guess I was wrong.
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  I was shocked too.
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  I mean, you see an El Camino and you're like, well, that's
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  about as not green as we can get.
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  It was interesting.
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  It was really kind of nerve wracking at some points where you're like,
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  Oh, you know, how much speed can I carry through this corner?
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  This guy does.
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  Dive bombing on top of me, stuff like that.
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  I will say the pit stop was just, thankfully, Tanya was back in the
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  studio and she's texting me going, Oh, you know that you have this much
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  time left, you have this much time.
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  And I'm like, cause I didn't even pay attention to when I rolled
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  into the pit, but it was like four minutes of absolute torture because
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  I'm like, do I turn the vehicle off?
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  Do I let it run?
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  And I'm just watching my MPG calculation just fall and fall and fall.
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  And I'm like, well, what was the point?
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  Of the pit stop, you know, I don't know if that goes back to something that is
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  part of the original time distance rally.
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  It didn't make sense to me.
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  I'm like, why do we have to stop for four minutes?
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  But I think it allows them to change drivers.
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  The thing I was confused about, because there were some teams that had three
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  drivers and four drivers, and I saw people like pitting in and then leaving.
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  Cause like the Mustang did that.
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  Cause there were three drivers.
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  Is it a cumulative four minutes or is it four minutes in one shot?
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  Again, the rules were a little unclear and I wanted to ask these questions
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  at the driver's meeting, but I felt like if I asked these questions,
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  I'm going to look like that guy.
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  I'm going to be that noob.
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  And I didn't want to be that guy.
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  You know, you got to get over that sometimes, right?
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  I think going into next year, I'm going to have more questions that
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  I want answered before the event.
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  I think you took a longer pit stop too.
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  Cause After you got into the pits and you read the rules about the pits, the
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  timing should have started apparently when you cross the line into the pit.
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  I didn't start counting you until you stopped in your pit box and
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  then the counter should have ended like as you pitted out.
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  So you took like an extra solid extra minute or more.
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  Yeah, I was going to say, does it count from pit in to pit out?
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  Four minutes or is it?
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  Four minutes at your stall.
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  As long as it's four minutes, you can go more apparently.
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  But what they do is in the timing, cause they use the same
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  transponders we use in time trials.
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  They just delete the laps before, during, and after, I think they said.
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  So they take those away.
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  So they don't even count.
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  We were able to claw back from that, which was good.
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  Honestly, I'm still really proud of my Jeep for being
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  almost 10 years old and getting.
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  As we recorded live stream 31.
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  9 miles to the gallon.
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  I think that's pretty good.
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  What tune was it?
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  It was the GDE tune.
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  Okay.
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  It was tough.
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  It was challenging.
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  And there's a lot of things going on.
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  And obviously multiple cameras in the car and talking to you guys
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  and everything that was happening.
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  It was interesting.
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  And I think with two people, maybe you could do the rough
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  math as you're going along.
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  But I don't know.
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  It's weird.
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  Like a four and a half minute lap.
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  Flew by, but also felt like an eternity.
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  Once we got done with the TSD part of the event, we moved to the conference
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  center where there was a talk by folks from Toyota, from BAE systems,
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  from the TCAT service, which is like the bus service or whatever, and
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  they were actually showcasing and they, you could go for joy rides.
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  On these electric full size, you know, like bolt buses or whatever around the
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  track, which a couple of people said it was kind of sketch going through like
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  the boot with the big massive, like Greyhound, you know, it's pretty cool.
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  They're silent, they're quick, they're super torquey.
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  And so they had a whole discussion about that and the future of EVs, but
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  it was all with respect to those big buses and the technology that BAE and
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  Toyota and all them were working on.
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  And then the later part of the day was an autocross, which I want
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  to dive into a little bit more.
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  I know Tanya was watching the live stream and we were chatting back
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  and forth through the live stream about like the times and stuff.
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  And it was really interesting to see the hybrids versus like the gas cars
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  that were there and stuff like that.
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  It's a full day event, award ceremony dinner.
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  It's the part that got a little kind of confusing.
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  There's different classes.
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  Like they, they subdivided the results by like generation of Prius.
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  And insight and stuff like that.
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  And then there was like, okay, gas cars, which confused me.
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  Cause as I walked around the paddock, I'm like, that's a saline Mustang.
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  That's an El Camino.
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  There's a couple of Miatas over there.
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  I was like, what does that have to do with anything?
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  Granted, you know, you got extra spots to fill.
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  You'll sell them to people.
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  Right?
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  Sure.
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  Fine.
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  And I don't take any satisfaction in coming home with a trophy.
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  First place, you know, I did hang it on my wall in the garage
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  because the Jeep won something.
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  I'm proud of the Jeep, but yeah, it was the only diesel there.
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  Right.
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  I mean, so I was kind of competing against myself.
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  You know, how did they score that?
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  It was weird because the gas calculations were easy.
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  You know, how many gallons of fuel did you burn over 80 miles?
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  You know, during the time period and all this kinda stuff and they could just
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  do a rough calculation, the EMPG for the hybrids and the EV calculations.
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  Like I got a little bit lost 'cause they were all cheering about like
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  0.2 kilowatt mile and I'm like, I don't know what that means.
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  Like you gotta transl it for me.
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  'cause the part that was crazy was when you're hearing about these
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  guys at the Prius and they're like 112 miles to the gallon.
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  And I'm like, what?
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  How?
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  There's no way you went around 80 miles.
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  Without burning any fuel, there's almost not enough of Watkins Glenn
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  to use regenerative braking, or maybe there is, maybe I don't understand
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  how the Prius makes its electricity.
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  That part was a little sketchy.
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  I didn't get to really see how they scored everything, but I felt like IMSA
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  racing, it was like, there's 16 different classes of cars out here right now.
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  And we're really not competing against each other other than the fact
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  that we're running the same format.
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  The Prius would have been running on the gas engine the entire time.
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  Is what I was thinking.
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  According to the interwebs, most Toyota Priuses will switch to gas when the
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  car reaches speeds of 15 miles an hour.
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  And the average speed you were supposed to be somewhere.
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  46 miles an hour is what they said.
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  Yeah.
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  Okay.
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  46.
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  Okay.
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  The gas engine was on then.
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  A hundred percent.
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  I don't know how they calculated this, right?
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  And when I heard the numbers, I was like baffled.
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  What?
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  How?
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  How did you do that?
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  Because I was sort of thinking, okay, a Prius, probably in line with say
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  a VW TDI, they should be getting 45 miles to the gallon, kind of almost
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  regardless of the conditions, right?
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  They're just sort of that type of vehicle.
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  But 112, I was just like, what?
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  How?
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  Were you hypermiling?
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  And even the guy who had the 911, and I'm not trying to call them
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  out because they sure as heck did during the award ceremony.
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  I mean, they were giving him grief, but stock 911 4S with the all wheel drive
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  and he's getting 40 miles to the gallon.
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  I was like, what?
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  Did he pop it in neutral and like just coast?
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  How?
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  Again, according to the interwebs, a Prius is probably, let's just call it
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  somewhere around 50 miles to the gallon.
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  How do you double that?
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  Are you turning the car off?
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  Are you coasting?
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  I mean, they didn't say you couldn't hypermile.
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  I personally don't have the patience for that.
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  I would say on a racetrack, it's sort of nerve wracking to, you know,
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  like, I'm just going to let it coast.
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  How are you hypermiling up 600 horsepower hill?
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  That's what I was wondering, right?
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  With all the pre I and the insights.
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  It's like a suit.
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  I mean, I had torque for days.
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  I could just tip into the throttle and it just climbed the hill with no problem.
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  But you're in a what?
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  1.
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  2 liter Prius.
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  Might as well be going backwards, trying to get up that hill.
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  Cause there's also the hill up the S's that you have to climb.
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  From turn two to the bus stop is a long haul.
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  I guess you could coast from the bus stop all the way to the hill.
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  But then you're accelerating the rest of the way all the way
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  around basically to like pit.
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  Yeah.
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  Cause it's all straight.
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  And then you could coast till you get to the S's.
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  There was a top gear skid where Jeremy Clarkson took an E46 M3 and drove it
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  around the top of your test track.
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  Got better mile per gallon than a Toyota Prius that he was following.
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  Yeah.
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  He drove the Prius first, I guess, to get a target lap time.
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  And then he drove the M3 and at that same speed, the M3 was more economical.
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  Was there any type of hooliganism or shenanigans there at this event,
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  kind of around something like that?
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  I mean, you say there were Mustangs there, and No, because the Prius
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  got 112 miles to the gallon.
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  It's a showcase for a Prius event I call COLLUSION!
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  Drafting's not allowed.
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  There's a lot of things you're not supposed to do.
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  They stagger start it like a proper rally, so everybody is sent off.
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  10, 15 seconds apart or whatever, but you end up catching people.
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  I mean, it just happens, right?
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  Especially I was one of the only people as I was going through traffic that was
• 17:17
  actually driving the race line, trying to hit all the apexes to maintain as
• 17:21
  much speed as I could, stuff like that.
• 17:23
  And I'm not trying to boast.
• 17:24
  It's just, I was sort of like perplexed by where people were putting the car.
• 17:28
  That was the problem.
• 17:29
  You drove more than you needed to.
• 17:32
  Maybe that's it.
• 17:33
  I should have shortened the track up.
• 17:35
  I figured to maintain that average lap speed, I was really
• 17:38
  targeting a four minute, 25 lap.
• 17:41
  I was looking at lap times and I was like, once I set my base lap based on
• 17:45
  what I thought was good, I could keep being in that range for 24 or four 25,
• 17:50
  four 23 and kind of float around in there.
• 17:53
  And I was like, I felt that was good.
• 17:54
  That was consistent.
• 17:55
  Because what I was hoping for was better than 32 miles to the
• 17:58
  gallon, because I know the Jeep.
• 18:00
  Can already do 32 miles to the gallon so tough.
• 18:03
  It was challenging.
• 18:04
  Right?
• 18:04
  But yes, I was looking at people's I'm going to call them lines.
• 18:07
  And I'm like, where are you driving the other 1 that was kind of interesting.
• 18:11
  And we joked about it during the autocross and I have pictures
• 18:14
  of it up on our website.
• 18:15
  It's the converted all electric geo Metro, and apparently like that
• 18:20
  blew all the EVs out of the water.
• 18:23
  It got like 12.
• 18:24
  5 kilowatt per mile or whatever the heck the conversion is, you know, a billion
• 18:30
  times better than the Chevy Bolt that ended up winning the EV class because
• 18:35
  that's considered like a super modified.
• 18:37
  It was in its own class, but the numbers were just like, okay, we have 0.
• 18:42
  2.
• 18:43
  And then we had 12.
• 18:44
  5 and to me, I'm like, that's like, I'm assuming the geometrify
• 18:49
  ways have as much as a bolt.
• 18:51
  Yeah.
• 18:51
  I was going to say the weight difference.
• 18:53
  Oh, yeah.
• 18:54
  Yeah.
• 18:54
  But as we saw during the autocross is still understeered like crazy, which was.
• 18:57
  Pretty bizarre considering it had no weight up front.
• 19:00
  It had no brakes.
• 19:00
  That's how they saved weight.
• 19:01
  They didn't put brakes in it.
• 19:03
  They just had wood up there.
• 19:05
  Did they have those little teeny skinny tires too?
• 19:07
  Yeah, they had everything and they blocked off the front to
• 19:10
  try to make it more aerodynamic.
• 19:11
  It was totally homebrew.
• 19:12
  They blocked it off using like duct tape and cardboard and it was
• 19:15
  just like, all right, whatever.
• 19:17
  It was comical, but the car was quick.
• 19:19
  My real question is where in the standings did the Eagle Eye Hammer Thrust And, uh, I
• 19:24
  think I beat the Eagle Eye Hammer Thrust.
• 19:26
  So we're all good there.
• 19:27
  Just really quick about the autocross.
• 19:29
  The young guys that were there from the colleges are like, Oh, the
• 19:32
  Miata is going to crush everybody.
• 19:35
  You know, and I'm like, no, that formula SAE car over there is definitely going
• 19:38
  to crush everybody by like a mile.
• 19:40
  So it did, it did their little autocross course in like 20 seconds flat.
• 19:44
  It was like, all right, cool.
• 19:44
  Let's take the outlier out of the equation.
• 19:46
  But the top five was modified Miata with a turbo, not a Mazda speed Miata.
• 19:52
  Then it was the 911 that I talked about, a GTI Mark 7 with an APR kit on it.
• 19:58
  And then there was a couple other cars that were in that area.
• 20:02
  And they were all right around 22 to 23 second times.
• 20:05
  And what was funny is when they talked about their fastest times,
• 20:09
  I was like, that's not what I reported on the live stream.
• 20:12
  It was a little weird when we got to the award ceremony, either way, it
• 20:15
  was interesting to see how tight the Porsche, the Miata and the GTI were,
• 20:19
  and they looked so different when they were out there on the autocross.
• 20:23
  But what really shocked me were these supposedly stock.
• 20:27
  Chevy volts, those things were quick right there with those other cars
• 20:33
  that I mentioned, like within a second, especially that green and
• 20:36
  blue one, the Alfred state car, I don't know who was driving it.
• 20:39
  If it was the teacher, 1 of the students, because, you know, there
• 20:41
  were so many drivers in the same car, it got a little confusing.
• 20:44
  You're doing like a 22 second lap and I'm like, dang, that is
• 20:48
  ballistically quick for a Chevy volt.
• 20:50
  That's.
• 20:51
  I'm going to put air quotes around it, stock.
• 20:53
  So I was actually really impressed.
• 20:55
  I was looking at how the Volt handled.
• 20:57
  It has the typical front wheel drive lift throttle oversteer because they
• 21:00
  were getting it to rotate and stuff, but it was pretty well planted.
• 21:04
  I mean, yeah, they could get it to push, but not as much as like the
• 21:07
  Bolt, where they basically flung that car and pushed it through every turn
• 21:12
  and it was just screaming for mercy.
• 21:14
  Just like the Priuses were, it was like, man, that hurts me to watch that
• 21:18
  car because, you know, skinny five inch tires, and they're just like rolling
• 21:22
  over on themselves, but they managed to make it work the autocross lots, a little
• 21:26
  small, if anybody's ever been to Watkins Glen and especially to a lot of the
• 21:30
  HOD events we go to, if you're familiar with the big garages and where we pit.
• 21:35
  Out to go on to the hot pit, they use the little lot right there next to
• 21:40
  the garages in that area where there's like, there's medians and there's a
• 21:43
  couple of trees and guys will camp out there and put their trailers and stuff.
• 21:47
  So it wasn't super huge.
• 21:49
  I was expecting them to use the other paddock that world challenge
• 21:52
  uses because it's much larger and like a proper autocross.
• 21:55
  But apparently that was closed off because it was opening weekend is what it is.
• 22:00
  I think overall I had fun.
• 22:02
  I think I need a redo.
• 22:03
  I need a mulligan.
• 22:04
  I want to try it again.
• 22:05
  And I think it would be cool to go back with Tanya's TDI and see what that does,
• 22:08
  you know, next year compared to the Jeep.
• 22:10
  It was a neat experience.
• 22:12
  I would recommend people going and checking it out.
• 22:14
  If you ever wanted to.
• 22:16
  See what your alternative fuel vehicle does in an event like this, sign up
• 22:20
  for next year's green ground, pre keep an eye on what they're doing again,
• 22:23
  very low key tech, wasn't anything that you really had to be worried about.
• 22:27
  You know, you had working turn signals and headlights and stuff like that.
• 22:31
  So it wasn't like proper track day or an autocross where they
• 22:34
  got to check a million things.
• 22:35
  And by the way, there was no helmets, so you don't have to worry about
• 22:38
  that, you know, windows up, the whole thing, you know, all that you
• 22:41
  want to run with the air condition.
• 22:42
  It's not like a track day, because again, the speeds are much slower.
• 22:45
  And I will say there was only one flagger the entire time.
• 22:49
  He was going to ask, were there even anyone to see that
• 22:52
  you were drafting somebody?
• 22:54
  I don't know how they police that.
• 22:56
  Because again, there was only one flagger and he was a turn
• 22:58
  10 right before you put it in.
• 23:00
  And I was like, okay.
• 23:02
  Your experience reminds me of when GTM got together and tried to do that
• 23:07
  electric cart Enduro and not fully understanding the rules and the strategy.
• 23:13
  And we were pitting in and changing drivers and swapping carts and stuff
• 23:16
  where everybody else literally was driving the carts until they died.
• 23:20
  The race would stop and then they would get a new cart and
• 23:23
  then the race would resume.
• 23:24
  It was the most ass backwards thing I'd ever seen.
• 23:27
  It made no sense.
• 23:28
  Absolutely.
• 23:29
  What was a nice followup to the Green Grand Prix, especially if you want to make
• 23:33
  a weekend out of going to Watkins Glen.
• 23:35
  I mean, there's a million things to do up there.
• 23:37
  Go to Lake Seneca, go to the local wineries and the breweries and do
• 23:41
  some antiquing and all that fun stuff.
• 23:43
  It's a great place for a weekend getaway.
• 23:46
  Our friends over at the International Motor Racing Research Center also held
• 23:49
  their eighth annual model car show.
• 23:52
  The next day.
• 23:53
  So I stopped by before I went home.
• 23:55
  I grabbed some breakfast at Toby's donuts, which was fantastic.
• 23:58
  Great little diner cafe there in downtown.
• 24:01
  And I went over to the IMRRC, which shares its location with
• 24:04
  the Watkins Glen public library.
• 24:05
  A bunch of collectors came out and it wasn't just model cars.
• 24:09
  It was Legos.
• 24:10
  It was dioramas.
• 24:12
  It was slot cars.
• 24:13
  It was all sorts of stuff.
• 24:15
  And what was cool is I got to experience another side.
• 24:19
  Of the motorsport enthusiast community.
• 24:22
  I always knew existed, but I never personally kind of crossed that threshold.
• 24:26
  And I'm sitting there and a guy's talking about this McLaren Lego thing.
• 24:30
  And then the other guy's like, Oh, I got that.
• 24:32
  The model car.
• 24:32
  And they're like comparing the models and the details.
• 24:35
  And then they're suddenly talking about Daniela Ricardo.
• 24:38
  Like it evolved into these conversations.
• 24:40
  And I'm like, They're car guys, just like the rest of us, but they're probably
• 24:43
  smarter because they're only spending, you know, 94 cents for a matchbox versus, you
• 24:47
  know, 94, 000 for, you know, a brand new car or whatever, but it was really cool
• 24:52
  to share stories and then they were like, well, what do you have in your collection?
• 24:55
  And I'm like.
• 24:55
  One to one scale, or are we talking, you know, one 64, like those kinds of things.
• 25:00
  And, and, you know, swapping stories.
• 25:02
  And I actually talked about the Falcon X BGT build that I recently
• 25:06
  did from the block zone, which we've talked about on our holiday episode.
• 25:10
  And the guys were really interested about that.
• 25:12
  Somebody else was like, Oh, I got one of those right here.
• 25:14
  And he had a McLaren formula car that he bought.
• 25:16
  And we talked about the build experience and it was, it was really cool.
• 25:19
  It was different.
• 25:20
  It was very pleasant.
• 25:21
  You know, going to the center is always a lot of fun.
• 25:23
  It's in trenched in history.
• 25:25
  Every time you turn around, there's something else going on.
• 25:28
  There's new things to look at and whatnot.
• 25:30
  So it was a good time.
• 25:31
  Very much enjoyed that.
• 25:33
  So if you're interested in next year's green Grand Prix, check
• 25:35
  out www dot green, grumpy.
• 25:37
  com.
• 25:38
  And then look at some of the other things that might be going
• 25:40
  on Watkins Glen that weekend.
• 25:42
  And don't forget to hit up house of Hong.
• 25:43
  Uh, yeah.
• 25:47
  Moving on, we need to talk about some more states that are pushing back on
• 25:53
  the alleged ICE bans and phase outs.
• 25:58
  Wait a minute, hold on.
• 25:58
  Did you mean states that are in support of Phasing out ice, correct?
• 26:02
  No, there are states that are in favor of getting rid of ice and
• 26:07
  all EV and all electric and all that, but there are actually states
• 26:10
  retaliating, pushing back and saying, no, we want to keep our petrol cars.
• 26:16
  Two of them.
• 26:17
  You can probably guess that would be the country of Texas.
• 26:20
  Yeah.
• 26:20
  The Republic of Texas is definitely is at the top of that list
• 26:25
  followed closely by Colorado.
• 26:27
  I mean, one of the most outdoorsy States in the country shout
• 26:31
  out to herb day, Colorado.
• 26:33
  That's right But what I was a little kind of surprised by his New Hampshire
• 26:36
  is pushing back Saying let's take a chill pill on these phase outs and these bands
• 26:42
  Mmm, maybe they actually have Intelligent lawmakers in their state their lobbyists
• 26:47
  are better than the rest I would have thought Michigan would be on the list
• 26:50
  if that was the case with the heart of the automotive industry there, but I
• 26:53
  guess not in light of all that there are organizations like PRI and SEMA and
• 26:58
  things like that, that are going to bat as well for these types of initiatives.
• 27:02
  They've been behind the right to repair act, the right to modify they're
• 27:06
  behind keeping motor sports alive.
• 27:08
  There's a lot of things going on.
• 27:10
  I tell a lot of my motor sports compatriots, if you're not a member of
• 27:13
  PRI, you should be thinking about it.
• 27:15
  It's pretty cheap.
• 27:16
  It's like 40 bucks a year and you get access to.
• 27:19
  All their government affairs, things that they're working on, the legislation, a
• 27:23
  lot of insight webinars and things like that, where you can actually see what
• 27:27
  they're up to, what they're talking about.
• 27:29
  There's some really interesting stuff going on with PRI and SEMA in terms of
• 27:33
  them advocating for us as enthusiasts, but also advocating for our lovers in general.
• 27:40
  And for folks that maybe aren't ready to transition to EV or
• 27:43
  hybrid or whatever have you.
• 27:45
  So really interesting stuff going on at performance racing.
• 27:48
  com.
• 27:48
  You've said multiple times that the answer is not all one or all the other.
• 27:53
  It's a nice mix of all because everybody has a different use case.
• 27:58
  So why can't we all just be happy?
• 27:59
  Since we're still talking about Earth Day and green initiatives, there's been
• 28:04
  a lot of Hubbaloo in the last month over at the environmental protection agency.
• 28:10
  They would like to close, as they say, a SUV loophole, which I didn't appreciate
• 28:17
  that this existed and is basically the reason, I guess, why so many
• 28:22
  people were willing to purchase these monstrosities back in the day even, right?
• 28:26
  They're much better today.
• 28:28
  Somewhat better fuel economy, I guess, and more luxurious.
• 28:31
  They don't flip over and all that good stuff.
• 28:33
  But apparently back then there was a loophole that was goes as
• 28:36
  far back as the seventies, because there was a lot of people, obviously
• 28:40
  there always has been that use SUVs or big trucks exclusively for.
• 28:45
  work, whether you're a farmer or other industries.
• 28:49
  And so there was a loophole for them not to suffer severe punishments
• 28:52
  because of fuel inefficiency, that became a loophole for personal use.
• 28:58
  And so that allowed people to not be penalized, have any sort of repercussion
• 29:04
  to having some monstrosity that gets eight miles to the gallon as you're just going
• 29:07
  to work and sitting stuck in traffic.
• 29:09
  And then to further that apparently in 2010, there was further loophole
• 29:14
  craziness that happened that essentially said the bigger your footprint, i.
• 29:18
  e.
• 29:18
  the larger your chassis, you still get exempt from like more stringent shit.
• 29:24
  So car manufacturers, it's in your best interest to actually make shit bigger.
• 29:29
  Wow.
• 29:29
  Oh, man.
• 29:30
  Thank you.
• 29:31
  Thank you.
• 29:31
  And this EPA.
• 29:33
  Come now.
• 29:34
  And wasn't there something we talked about like last year?
• 29:37
  If you slapped stickers on the side of your monstrosity, like a G Wagon or
• 29:42
  something like that, you could consider it as a work vehicle and therefore
• 29:45
  it would fall into this loophole.
• 29:47
  Yes, yes.
• 29:47
  So, you know, small businesses do that stuff all the time.
• 29:50
  Because the vehicle, it's over a certain weight or something like that.
• 29:54
  They use it as a commercial vehicle and then they write it off on their taxes.
• 29:57
  And yeah, it's good stuff.
• 29:58
  As someone who's in the market for a suburban now that my family is
• 30:03
  growing, I hope I can still buy a used one before they close this loophole.
• 30:06
  Ford Flex with the EcoBoost.
• 30:08
  That's all I'm saying.
• 30:08
  Uh, not big enough.
• 30:10
  Have you seen my family?
• 30:11
  I have soon to be two children that would potentially reach seven feet tall.
• 30:14
  Yeah.
• 30:15
  Right.
• 30:15
  And then the dogs.
• 30:16
  And a hundred pound Labrador.
• 30:17
  Yeah.
• 30:17
  So a Ford Flex, not gonna do it.
• 30:19
  Sorry, we're sorry, bro.
• 30:20
  Not going to do it.
• 30:21
  Not going to do it.
• 30:23
  I mean, we drive maybe 5, 000 miles a year combined.
• 30:26
  It's not that terrible of an issue.
• 30:28
  Well, what is terrible is the EPA.
• 30:31
  Yes, I agree.
• 30:32
  The EPA is terrible.
• 30:34
  End of story.
• 30:35
  Leave it right there.
• 30:36
  What is the next article?
• 30:38
  There's another article from PRI kind of affirming what I was
• 30:41
  mentioning, that there's a lot of Hubbaloo over at the EPA this month.
• 30:44
  And basically, I even heard this on NPR, I heard this on other places, they
• 30:49
  are pursuing new standards before the supposed 2032 cutover, all EV, no more
• 30:57
  petrol cars, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 30:58
  And when you boil it back, 17 states that are basically latching onto the
• 31:04
  new CARB rules that are coming out, And they're changing the numbers, the
• 31:09
  metrics that manufacturers have to achieve in terms of their emissions output.
• 31:14
  And here's where it gets a little tricky because people are like, Oh my
• 31:17
  God, this is the end of everything.
• 31:19
  There's never going to be another Mustang.
• 31:22
  It's like, all right, put your pitchforks down.
• 31:24
  Do you extinguish your torches for a second?
• 31:26
  The way this works is they have to have a 90 mile per gallon.
• 31:33
  Chevy Bolt to basically swing the pendulum so they can have a nine mile
• 31:39
  per gallon Chevy Camaro ZL one 28, whatever the hell it is, and then
• 31:44
  everything else has to fit in between.
• 31:45
  So what it is is they're changing the standards for the average
• 31:49
  miles per gallon, sort of like that average speed per lap that we talked
• 31:52
  about the green Grand Prix, same thing with these manufacturers,
• 31:55
  they're changing the average miles per gallon that the entire fleet.
• 31:59
  Needs to achieve.
• 32:01
  And so that number is going up, but with the recent adoption of EVs and
• 32:05
  the new mental gymnastics and new math that you have to do there to make that
• 32:09
  convert to miles per gallon, they can still afford to have big pickup trucks
• 32:13
  and things like that in the fleet.
• 32:15
  So I'm curious to see how it all comes out in the wash at the end of the day.
• 32:19
  What I find interesting though, is just before all this hit is when Ford is like,
• 32:26
  we're not going to sell any more sedans.
• 32:29
  Forget the hatchbacks.
• 32:30
  The focus is dead.
• 32:31
  The Mondeo is gone.
• 32:32
  Known as the fusion here in the United States.
• 32:34
  You know, stuff like that.
• 32:35
  They just checked them all at the door.
• 32:37
  They don't have an EV right now to really compensate for the number of F 150s.
• 32:43
  Best selling car in North America.
• 32:45
  They have the lightning.
• 32:46
  They've got the Mach E, and they've got the plug in hybrid Fusion.
• 32:50
  No, the Fusion's dead.
• 32:51
  The Fusion's gone.
• 32:52
  Don't they have an EV escape or a plug in escape or something like that?
• 32:56
  I don't know.
• 32:56
  I'm not a Ford fan.
• 32:57
  But what I'm getting at is there's not much to compensate for the amount of But
• 33:02
  then they just go to Tesla and buy credit.
• 33:03
  Possibly, right?
• 33:05
  And the cycle continues.
• 33:06
  Exactly.
• 33:07
  So nothing's really changing, but what is changing is the number of
• 33:11
  wagons, sports coupes, the things that some of us really do enjoy.
• 33:16
  Those numbers are getting smaller every year that goes by.
• 33:19
  I know we talked at the beginning of the year, the number of cars
• 33:21
  with manual transmission sold is up this year compared to previous.
• 33:25
  I don't see that lasting forever either.
• 33:28
  Well, the problem that none of this takes into account is what's going on with
• 33:32
  Porsche and their development of these.
• 33:36
  Greener traditional fuels, e fuels, gasoline, diesel, whatever that aren't
• 33:41
  going to have that's maybe the same environment impacts as we see today.
• 33:45
  How does that play into here?
• 33:46
  Suddenly we had magic gasoline that there's nothing harmful
• 33:50
  coming out of the tailpipe because those molecules don't exist.
• 33:53
  If you don't have nitrogen and those bad things in the fuel to begin
• 33:56
  with, it can't convert into there's nitrogen in the air and all that stuff.
• 34:00
  Naturally.
• 34:01
  Yes, but like it's not going to have the same impact.
• 34:04
  Right?
• 34:05
  So.
• 34:06
  If we magically had that today, what does this conversation look like?
• 34:09
  Exactly.
• 34:10
  And you know, what's funny is I don't know if it was an April Fool's thing,
• 34:13
  and we're going to talk about crazy YouTubers as we move on here, but
• 34:16
  there was something coming back saying that Porsche's new e fuel is illegal.
• 34:21
  You know, they're pushing to make it illegal.
• 34:22
  I'm like, what are we talking about now?
• 34:24
  What, why let them experiment, let them see if they can come up with an option
• 34:29
  to keep petrol engines on the road.
• 34:31
  I don't know what it is.
• 34:32
  But there's definitely something fishy going on.
• 34:35
  And somebody has their hands in the government's pocket.
• 34:38
  Oh, capitalism, baby.
• 34:39
  Somebody has the excellent lobbyists.
• 34:41
  There's something going on that we don't know in the background that
• 34:44
  yes, there's somebody's all this crap.
• 34:46
  Somebody's pockets getting lined.
• 34:48
  I hate when the government oversteps and starts pushing
• 34:51
  people around to push their agenda.
• 34:53
  And it's not even their agenda.
• 34:54
  It's the agenda of private corporations.
• 34:56
  As Tanya alluded to capitalism.
• 34:58
  Leave me alone.
• 34:59
  Just let me do what I want to do.
• 35:00
  Some of this is because as a commodity in the energy sector, electricity itself in
• 35:06
  the United States was cheap, super cheap.
• 35:09
  It was super cheap.
• 35:12
  And what's the best way to make everybody have to pay 500 a
• 35:16
  month at home for electricity?
• 35:18
  Well, let's introduce electric cars.
• 35:20
  Not everybody can afford an electric car.
• 35:22
  Not everybody can afford the infrastructure to charge an electric car.
• 35:25
  There are So many people in this country that can't afford to do any of that stuff.
• 35:30
  They can barely afford.
• 35:31
  I mean, we joked about her and this lot in the last drive thru, but that
• 35:34
  woman who was so proud of herself for going out and being able to
• 35:36
  buy a Ford escort for what was it?
• 35:39
  300 a month.
• 35:40
  Yeah.
• 35:41
  There are so many people in this country that are like that.
• 35:44
  But unfortunately, that's the way the world works.
• 35:46
  How is this going to be possible?
• 35:48
  I don't want to say the driving is a necessity because it's not, but you're
• 35:51
  basically pricing them out of the ability to get to work and have transportation.
• 35:56
  Now, are you going to, in conjunction with this, are you going to increase the.
• 36:00
  Public transportation infrastructure, if you're going to do something to offset
• 36:04
  it to where these people that can't afford to drive anymore have alternate
• 36:07
  means to get where they need to go, then, okay, we can talk about that.
• 36:10
  That's what was really interesting about the lunch and learn at the green
• 36:14
  Grand Prix is seeing those electric buses and hearing from British aerospace
• 36:19
  and hearing from Toyota about the technologies on the big scale, because
• 36:22
  how many times have we talked about why are they penalizing the consumers
• 36:26
  and the workers when you've got buses?
• 36:29
  At airports around the country and metro systems and all this stuff.
• 36:33
  And you've got delivery vehicles and police cars and stuff.
• 36:36
  That's just sitting there idling all day long.
• 36:38
  What you don't think because they're idling, they're not polluting.
• 36:41
  So to your point there into Tanya's point earlier that she made, we don't
• 36:44
  have enough money to pay for lobbyists.
• 36:46
  We're not corporations.
• 36:47
  We can't pay for lobbyists.
• 36:49
  So if we got everybody together, everybody puts in 5.
• 36:52
  We'll start a new tier on Patreon.
• 36:54
  We'll call it the lobbyist here.
• 36:55
  You can start the lobbyist here.
• 36:57
  Everybody puts in their 5 and we will lobby for the general
• 37:01
  consumer, not a corporation.
• 37:03
  We're a nonprofit.
• 37:05
  So we will lobby for the general consumer.
• 37:07
  To get your needs passed because apparently the politicians
• 37:10
  don't give a shit about it.
• 37:11
  There's a lot of different, unfortunately, divisive topics here, right?
• 37:15
  It creates these arguments and whatever.
• 37:18
  I mean, I'm all in favor of all cars.
• 37:21
  I have my biases.
• 37:23
  The things I like and like I always joke, just like, you know when I find
• 37:26
  something at the grocery store that I enjoy to eat because I like it,
• 37:29
  they're not gonna produce it anymore.
• 37:31
  Right?
• 37:31
  So it's sort of like manual transmissions and two door coops and things like that.
• 37:35
  It's just the thing of the past, I'm always in the 1%, but it's
• 37:38
  not like I'm one percenter.
• 37:40
  It's I'm in the 1% of enthusiasts that like really weird stuff.
• 37:44
  But for the general population, I agree with you.
• 37:46
  The movement is a little premature.
• 37:48
  We've talked about that before.
• 37:50
  And I look at it too.
• 37:51
  We have a hybrid.
• 37:52
  I don't have two 20 in my garage for these level two or above chargers
• 37:57
  and getting a level two put in.
• 37:59
  I don't care how many government incentives you give me.
• 38:02
  I still have to find an electrician that is willing to take my money, do the work.
• 38:07
  Retrofitted into the house, which is way more expensive than a lot of
• 38:10
  people realize my house is older, so I got to upgrade my service.
• 38:14
  I got to do a bunch of stuff.
• 38:15
  Sub box in the, it's a lot of money that has to be put out to do this conversion.
• 38:20
  And so right now I'm really fortunate that my wife's vehicle can be charged
• 38:25
  in a level one charger overnight.
• 38:27
  But if we were to replace that, or let's say tomorrow I ran out and bought
• 38:31
  a Mach E, I wouldn't know what to do.
• 38:33
  And I don't have the patience to drive down to the local library and go
• 38:38
  charge and wait there for 45 minutes.
• 38:41
  It's inconvenient.
• 38:42
  Plug it in and spend a week charging like that one guy did.
• 38:45
  You own a house.
• 38:46
  You've got a single family home.
• 38:47
  Yep.
• 38:47
  What do you see a lot of driving around the cities in particular?
• 38:52
  Normal driving, you see a lot of apartments.
• 38:54
  Yeah.
• 38:54
  A lot of renters.
• 38:55
  How are they going to charge their cars?
• 38:57
  How is, you know, a single mom going to charge her car to go to run her shift job?
• 39:02
  You know, what about people that are on campus, right?
• 39:05
  In school or whatever.
• 39:06
  And some campuses, you're not allowed to have a car on campus in your X years or
• 39:09
  whatever, and not until the later years.
• 39:11
  But still, nonetheless, there are people on campus that have cars because they
• 39:14
  also have jobs they have to get to.
• 39:15
  And they're living there.
• 39:15
  Our university is going to install chargers for these people to be
• 39:19
  able to like, go do their lives.
• 39:20
  I mean, There's a lot to it.
• 39:22
  I think it's disheartening all these years that they throw out where it's
• 39:25
  like in 10 years from today we will be Ev, I'm like y'all can't even freaking
• 39:31
  repave the road two mile stretch But you're gonna like redo an entire
• 39:37
  country's electrical infrastructure grid to support this in 10 years?
• 39:42
  For DMV people, be on alert that the GW Parkway is commencing construction
• 39:47
  that will go on till 2025, where you will alternate between two lanes and
• 39:52
  one lane available during weekday rushes, and then only one lane available
• 39:56
  on your weekends and any other time.
• 39:58
  Enjoy this for the next two years.
• 40:00
  That's okay.
• 40:01
  Those of us in the Baltimore area are already used to 695
• 40:05
  constantly being under construction.
• 40:07
  So it's not a big deal for us.
• 40:08
  No, but the point is, it's like they're repaving a two lane highway divided.
• 40:13
  I forget the total mileage.
• 40:14
  Once you come off the beltway and heading to the airport or whatnot, I
• 40:17
  mean, it's not short, but still it's like, that's going to take two years.
• 40:20
  Just to do that, but you're gonna re infrastructure everything in like 10
• 40:25
  and everybody's gonna be buying EVs.
• 40:26
  That's where the disconnect is.
• 40:28
  That's true.
• 40:28
  And our last article here dovetails right into the what we've been talking about.
• 40:32
  It's the coverage from NPR.
• 40:34
  They have about a 15 minute podcast that they added to this.
• 40:38
  I actually listened to this the day Everything went
• 40:42
  really sour with Elon and NPR.
• 40:45
  And we're going to talk about that as we move along, but their reporters got on.
• 40:48
  They said, look, let's summarize all these EPA changes for you guys.
• 40:52
  And they were basically saying the EPA wants to put millions more EVs on the
• 40:56
  road, should you buy one right now?
• 40:58
  And actually I thought it was really good of the NPR reporters to say, you
• 41:03
  know what, no, understand that this.
• 41:05
  Rule applies to new cars.
• 41:08
  They're not going to take away your petrol car.
• 41:10
  They literally said gasoline is not going away anytime soon.
• 41:14
  And that's great.
• 41:15
  And that was very positive.
• 41:16
  And they're trying to basically dispel and dilute any sort of sudden
• 41:21
  panic that people are going to have.
• 41:22
  What I want to remind people of is, yes, there are plenty
• 41:26
  of petrol cars to go around.
• 41:28
  But right now there's a weird situation happening where it's actually
• 41:34
  cheaper to go buy a new car than to buy a used car in a lot of cases.
• 41:40
  And so we talk about this a lot on what should I buy, you know,
• 41:43
  our sub series here on break fix.
• 41:45
  Be careful what you're buying.
• 41:47
  Don't end up with a 98 escort that's costing you 300 a month because the used
• 41:52
  car market is due for a course correction very soon because it cannot sustain the
• 41:59
  prices that used cars are at right now.
• 42:01
  Not for what you're getting.
• 42:02
  Well, and every individual person has to look at their particular situation, right?
• 42:06
  Because if you already have your car paid off, it's in good, reliable condition,
• 42:10
  and it has many, many miles to go.
• 42:13
  It is not more cost effective for you to go out and shell
• 42:17
  out 50, for a brand new car.
• 42:19
  If you have it that it's like buying chiclets at the grocery store, cool.
• 42:23
  Otherwise, keep driving your car.
• 42:25
  And even if you're doing regular maintenance, have to
• 42:28
  fix something here and there.
• 42:29
  It's still going to be more cost effective for a long time versus just
• 42:33
  dropping and buying something new that also still has its own issues.
• 42:38
  And if it's an EV, as was just mentioned, level two charging, all this stuff,
• 42:42
  you got to pay extra infrastructure in your own home and you have to have a
• 42:46
  place to have it and all that stuff.
• 42:47
  There's other considerations.
• 42:48
  Not only that, there's something that you touched on In the ladies and EVs episode
• 42:55
  of what should I buy that we did earlier in March and what was really important
• 42:59
  about that is people are not thinking about the long term environmental impact
• 43:04
  of getting rid of their existing car.
• 43:07
  What you guys touched on and what you talked about was really important because.
• 43:11
  Not only is there not a plan right now, although there are a lot of
• 43:14
  propositions to say, this is how we're going to handle the batteries
• 43:17
  when it's time to recycle them.
• 43:18
  Well, guess what?
• 43:19
  Everything's new.
• 43:20
  So we haven't crossed that bridge.
• 43:22
  We're not recycling anything yet.
• 43:23
  Right?
• 43:23
  Even the Tesla model S's from 10 years ago are still on the road.
• 43:27
  So we haven't really had to handle the hazmat until we've
• 43:30
  gotten into an accident situation.
• 43:32
  But here's what happens to your used car.
• 43:35
  Let's think about diesel gate.
• 43:36
  We talked about this years ago, even before we started to show what's
• 43:39
  going to happen to all these cars.
• 43:41
  Daniel buys them.
• 43:42
  Yeah.
• 43:42
  What happens to all these cars that Volkswagen bought back?
• 43:46
  And the speculation was they were getting put on container ships and sent to like
• 43:51
  Africa and Asia and all these places.
• 43:54
  And they were being resold because the demand was super high and the
• 43:57
  U S government wanted them out anyway, because this Evie thing was
• 44:01
  already on the horizon and all this conspiracy theory and speculation.
• 44:05
  But what I'm getting to and what I'm driving towards with that is your
• 44:08
  car, just because you traded it in.
• 44:11
  It doesn't mean it's dead.
• 44:13
  Somebody else might continue to drive that car for 10 years.
• 44:16
  They're going to put in those couple extra bucks.
• 44:18
  Maybe it is a couple thousand dollars to get it back on the road
• 44:21
  and it's going to continue to live.
• 44:23
  And then once it is, let's say dead.
• 44:25
  It continues to live more in a salvage yard, rotting in the middle
• 44:29
  of a field where it's letting go of its fluids into the ground and
• 44:33
  you know, all this kind of stuff.
• 44:34
  And it's just like your car isn't really done done until even it's gone through
• 44:39
  the crusher or it gets melted down.
• 44:41
  They're better at recycling them now than they used to be.
• 44:44
  It doesn't happen the day after you trade in your car.
• 44:47
  It happens years later.
• 44:50
  Maybe a decade after you got rid of that car.
• 44:52
  So think about it for a second.
• 44:54
  I need to change a starter in the car.
• 44:56
  What's that cost me?
• 44:57
  200 bucks.
• 44:58
  Oh, we're just going to trade it in.
• 44:59
  I get a new car, spend the 200 bucks and your car's got a lot
• 45:02
  more life in it than you think.
• 45:04
  Maintain your car.
• 45:05
  Maybe just.
• 45:05
  Yeah.
• 45:06
  Minimum stuff.
• 45:07
  Don't be an asshat.
• 45:08
  You don't have to hit every pothole you see and run over
• 45:10
  every curb that you encounter.
• 45:12
  You know, that'll keep the longevity of your car as well.
• 45:16
  A hundred percent.
• 45:16
  Change your oil.
• 45:17
  Yes.
• 45:18
  That is super important.
• 45:19
  If you're worried about that too, you know, we've talked about it before.
• 45:22
  We had Rick Lee on the show.
• 45:24
  Look at alternative oils like evolve that are made from
• 45:27
  plants rather than petroleum.
• 45:29
  There's a lot of alternatives out there right now.
• 45:31
  There's a lot of science.
• 45:32
  That's being perfected and things like that, but it's not
• 45:35
  as cut and dry as it used to be.
• 45:37
  So in kind of wrapping up this thought about earth day and about herb day and
• 45:42
  earth day, and all that is just take a step back and think about your car
• 45:46
  and think about what you can do, be a better steward of the environment.
• 45:50
  But like we talked about on other episodes, there's different
• 45:53
  ways to go about doing that.
• 45:55
  Well, it's time that we switch to Volkswagen, Audi, and Porsche news.
• 46:00
  I'm just going to read the headline.
• 46:01
  Audi owner finds basic HVAC function paywalled after
• 46:05
  pressing the button for it.
• 46:10
  I called it!
• 46:11
  I knew it was, I knew it was coming.
• 46:12
  I'm going to revise that cheap bastard Audi owner finds
• 46:16
  basic HVAC function paywall.
• 46:18
  There you go.
• 46:19
  The owner jokingly tongue in cheek calls himself out for being cheap anyway.
• 46:23
  And he says, every time that he gets in his car now, it reminds him.
• 46:27
  That he's cheap because he did not buy the Audi tri zone climate
• 46:30
  control for his Q4 e tron.
• 46:33
  The button for it is still there in the car because gone are the days of the
• 46:37
  manufacturers putting blank buttons there.
• 46:39
  It's cheaper just to manufacture them all the same.
• 46:42
  And if you don't have the function, it just doesn't work, didn't do anything.
• 46:45
  This one does something though.
• 46:46
  It says that function has not been purchased.
• 46:49
  He doesn't have heat?
• 46:50
  No, he doesn't have a very specific way to use the HVAC system.
• 46:55
  Wah, wah, alright, alright, Karen.
• 46:58
  Every car has heat.
• 46:59
  Yeah, it's called Tri Zone Climate Control.
• 47:02
  So I'm assuming it must divert, you know, like, oh, you can control different Part
• 47:06
  like the back seat versus the front seat.
• 47:08
  You can put heat on your feet and coolness on your balls.
• 47:12
  Yeah.
• 47:12
  Come on.
• 47:13
  So, I mean, totally like a luxury purchase add on, obviously it's a Q4 e
• 47:18
  tron, that's a luxury purchase itself.
• 47:21
  Yeah.
• 47:21
  It's already spending a hundred grand.
• 47:22
  These, this is some first world BS problems right here.
• 47:25
  But it is scary.
• 47:27
  Nonetheless, when they start talking about all the subscription stuff, because it's
• 47:31
  following the airline model where they've gone, Oh yeah, economy now we haven't.
• 47:35
  Basic economy.
• 47:36
  And not because you're a basic bee, but we want to nickel and dime you even more.
• 47:43
  For everything.
• 47:44
  It's the Spirit Airlines model.
• 47:46
  Oh, it's terrible.
• 47:47
  I mean, basically, but now the majors are doing it, right?
• 47:50
  So it's like, Oh, United, you want the cheapest ticket possible?
• 47:52
  Well, you will be forced to sit next to the toilet and you'll have to pay to bring
• 47:58
  a bag on the plane to put under your seat.
• 48:00
  Can I sit in the toilet?
• 48:02
  Yeah, but you can upgrade to economy plus and sit one row in front of the toilet.
• 48:06
  Yes.
• 48:07
  For 50 a ticket.
• 48:08
  Yeah.
• 48:09
  Right.
• 48:10
  This is why I don't like to fly again.
• 48:12
  This is why I'm all for used cars, but this new stuff scares me because again,
• 48:17
  you buy this car used in five years.
• 48:20
  Can I turn this feature on?
• 48:21
  What's the infrastructure supporting it is the Amazon in the cloud system.
• 48:25
  That's running the subscription for the HVAC going to be there in five years.
• 48:30
  Like it's insane.
• 48:31
  Like, stop, give me a button, turn it on.
• 48:33
  I've never been a fan of all the packages on cars.
• 48:36
  You got to have the premium package and the premium plus and the
• 48:39
  prestige and the prestige black.
• 48:41
  And just give me all the options and let's call it a day.
• 48:45
  The car is the car.
• 48:46
  Like.
• 48:46
  Everybody's making it way more complicated than it needs to be.
• 48:49
  You just want the car to be too bespoke.
• 48:51
  It's what I don't want it to be is software where it's like, well, you
• 48:54
  need this add on and you need this DLC.
• 48:56
  It's like when you buy a video game.
• 48:57
  Now you can't get the full game.
• 48:59
  They give you something half baked over the next six months.
• 49:02
  You got to pay for all these add ons and cars are not like that.
• 49:07
  When I buy a car, I want to hit the HVAC and I want it to work.
• 49:11
  And what was wrong with the dials, like we had 20 years ago, where you
• 49:15
  pointed at your head and you pointed at your feet and you'd pointed at
• 49:18
  the defroster and you just turned a freaking knob to get this done.
• 49:22
  Eric, you're a dinosaur.
• 49:24
  I'm like, yeah, I'm from the Jurassic era.
• 49:26
  Cars 2000s.
• 49:31
  There's an argument to be made around safety in that because All these
• 49:36
  infotainment screens where the stupid buttons don't work and you gotta
• 49:40
  pound on them because all that crap technology is still crap, honestly.
• 49:44
  It's more distracting to have to, oh I gotta sift through four screens I need
• 49:49
  to turn my heat on or my defrosters on versus like Dials and buttons, you can
• 49:54
  see them out of the corner of your eye, you instinctively, no muscle memory,
• 49:57
  like, you can reach for them without even looking, and keep your eyes on the
• 50:01
  road as you should be doing, as opposed to completely distracting yourself
• 50:04
  with a frickin laptop in your car.
• 50:06
  I'm telling you, it's all bullshit.
• 50:08
  The government trying to make things safer and all this other
• 50:10
  bullshit, it's all fuckin bullshit.
• 50:12
  They don't care about us, it's all about the money.
• 50:14
  The lobbyists for those infotainment systems, yeah.
• 50:18
  Capitalism.
• 50:18
  They don't give a shit about us.
• 50:20
  Whoever thinks that the government cares about us.
• 50:23
  Yes.
• 50:23
  The government cares about the dollar.
• 50:26
  It's all about the dollar.
• 50:28
  Yeah.
• 50:31
  Sing it Tanya.
• 50:32
  Amen.
• 50:32
  Amen sister.
• 50:33
  Sing it.
• 50:33
  It's the eighties all over again.
• 50:35
  Like I just see Michael Douglas.
• 50:38
  Greed is.
• 50:39
  Good as like Gordon Gekko, right?
• 50:42
  I mean, it's like, come on.
• 50:43
  Yeah, it's out of control.
• 50:45
  I will probably never buy a new vehicle ever again.
• 50:48
  I probably have the last two.
• 50:50
  Maybe there's another vehicle in my future down the line a long way
• 50:54
  away, but I think I've turned all my attention now to older cars.
• 50:59
  I'm in that collector mindset and I'm just like, Oh, if I get rid of this and
• 51:03
  I can buy that and blah, blah, blah.
• 51:05
  And I want this car from the 80s or from the 70s.
• 51:08
  You got to stop doing what should I buys?
• 51:09
  You're, you're, you're starting to, you're being influenced.
• 51:12
  It's bad for me, man.
• 51:15
  I did.
• 51:16
  I stopped the other day.
• 51:16
  I was like, I was looking at a Ford Maverick, not the pickup truck
• 51:19
  that everybody's thinking about.
• 51:20
  Now I'm talking about a 72 or don't do it.
• 51:23
  Don't buy that piece of shit.
• 51:28
  But since we're talking about Ford's, let's switch gears.
• 51:31
  This is something that is right up your alley, Brad.
• 51:33
  So let's talk domestic news brought to us by American muscle.
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• 51:40
  Chevy, Ford, or Mopar product.
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  The 2026, you're gonna have to wait a little bit.
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  Ford Mustang.
• 51:48
  Raptor.
• 51:49
  Raptor all the things.
• 51:51
  Yeah, Raptor all the things.
• 51:52
  Do you mean the Porsche 911 Rally?
• 51:54
  Thank you!
• 51:55
  Thank you!
• 51:55
  Because that's exactly what I thought when I first saw it.
• 51:58
  Do you know what this is?
• 52:00
  The auto manufacturers see the writing on the wall, they realize that we're
• 52:03
  going to be in a post apocalyptic world soon, and they're giving us our Mad Max
• 52:07
  cars now, so that we can prepare For the impending doom when the world implodes.
• 52:13
  Dang, that's a good one.
• 52:15
  I'm good with that.
• 52:16
  And if the Aussies still made cars, cause we're not sure if
• 52:21
  they make anything anymore, this would be the Ford Falcon XBGT.
• 52:25
  This is Mad Max's car.
• 52:27
  That's pretty cool.
• 52:27
  Here's a, what should I buy?
• 52:29
  What should I buy?
• 52:30
  Mad Max edition in the future post apocalyptic world, what car
• 52:36
  would you want to be like this?
• 52:38
  The first question is what fuel source survived?
• 52:42
  My guess is diesel.
• 52:43
  Diesel will be around forever.
• 52:44
  We're all going to be running biodiesel because we can go
• 52:46
  out and find vegetable oil.
• 52:48
  They used to joke all the time, you can run a diesel on piss.
• 52:51
  Well, let's get that done.
• 52:52
  I mean, think about that recycling plan, how efficient would that be?
• 52:56
  How also, Oh, I got to stop.
• 52:58
  I got to fill the tank.
• 52:59
  I mean, think about it.
• 53:00
  You get the death and the power from the same fluid.
• 53:04
  It's all right there.
• 53:05
  Just urinate in the tank.
• 53:07
  Done.
• 53:07
  We're going to start this company and we're going to start researching now.
• 53:09
  If there are any chemical engineers out there that want to help us with that
• 53:12
  wink, wink, nudge, nudge, Tanya, then please sign on, uh, we'll have a job
• 53:16
  applications on our patron under our lobbyist tier soon to be on Patreon.
• 53:21
  Yeah.
• 53:22
  Yes.
• 53:22
  We're looking for chem E interns to make this diesel.
• 53:26
  What does that smell like coming out the pipe?
• 53:28
  It's got to be better than death now.
• 53:30
  Well, it depends.
• 53:31
  Did you have asparagus for lunch?
• 53:32
  Oh, that's how you get that extra five horsepower.
• 53:36
  Is that that green diesel?
• 53:39
  Those cars are going to be running in the green Grand Prix next year.
• 53:42
  As I was coming back from the green Grand Prix, a lot of miles on the
• 53:46
  road, back from the track to home.
• 53:48
  And I saw in traffic.
• 53:50
  Remember we talked about the last two routes for the facade.
• 53:53
  They're not being built even here anymore in the States.
• 53:55
  They kind of phased them out last year.
• 53:57
  So a brand new facade and then next to it was a literally a brand new still
• 54:03
  had sticker plates on it, Malibu.
• 54:06
  And it got me thinking.
• 54:07
  I paused for a second because at first I didn't recognize the Malibu.
• 54:10
  They redesigned it.
• 54:11
  The rear lights are a little angular, kind of reminiscent of the Camaro,
• 54:15
  and they added this nice little integrated kind of spoiler to the back.
• 54:20
  It's sort of aggressive looking.
• 54:21
  The front hasn't changed too much.
• 54:23
  It's sort of All the blazer and they all look the same, the equinox
• 54:27
  and all them from the front.
• 54:28
  It's got that big, massive grill like a Lexus.
• 54:31
  And I'm looking at them from the third lane.
• 54:33
  They're next to each other.
• 54:34
  And I'm like, what would I rather own being a diehard
• 54:37
  Volkswagen guy for so long?
• 54:39
  How was the question?
• 54:40
  Cause I was thinking about it.
• 54:41
  They're sort of like the last of the sedans because those
• 54:44
  cars are being phased out.
• 54:46
  As we know, the Malibu is still around.
• 54:48
  You know, we don't know what the expiration date is on
• 54:50
  that, but the Passat's gone.
• 54:51
  A Malibu should have died in 2000.
• 54:54
  And I've rented a Malibu and the inside, they're quite nice.
• 54:56
  I mean, we make fun of the Impala for sure, but the Malibu is not bad.
• 55:01
  The interior cannot withstand candle fire though.
• 55:04
  This we know to be true.
• 55:05
  Again, looking at them going back and forth and what it
• 55:07
  did is it brought to light.
• 55:09
  You don't see too many full size sedans on the road anymore because
• 55:12
  again, they're just being phased out.
• 55:14
  And so I said to myself, you know, if I was in that market, What would I buy?
• 55:18
  I sort of fell squarely on the Malibu because in profile, it doesn't look
• 55:24
  like a rental car like the Passat does.
• 55:27
  It's a little more aggressive the way they restyled it.
• 55:30
  In reality, I would have neither, but I became a fan for a moment
• 55:34
  there as I was in traffic.
• 55:35
  And so I just, I wanted to bring that up.
• 55:37
  You could go get a Toyota Crown, you know, You're right about
• 55:42
  not having full size sedans.
• 55:44
  Toyota is bringing it out.
• 55:45
  The all new 2023 Toyota Crown full size sedan, which will probably be a hybrid.
• 55:51
  So that fits with this whole green theme, huh?
• 55:53
  Well, since you brought up Toyota, I mean, they're, they
• 55:56
  are all over the map right now.
• 55:57
  We've heard you say it before, Tanya, Honda and Toyota seem to
• 56:00
  flip flop in terms of, you know, who's exciting for a decade or so.
• 56:04
  And right now, Toyota is the hotness.
• 56:08
  And they have teased the fourth generation, Mr.
• 56:11
  Two.
• 56:11
  Oh, my attention.
• 56:15
  Right?
• 56:15
  I don't fit, but a lot of my friends do, so I can live vicariously.
• 56:19
  It doesn't look like a car from this decade.
• 56:22
  It looks like it's straight out of the late 90s, early 2000s.
• 56:26
  The blue one doesn't look like a car from this decade.
• 56:28
  The yellow one looks like a car from this decade.
• 56:31
  Not in a good way.
• 56:32
  Just like the Integra, these are two different designs for the new MR2.
• 56:38
  And actually there's a third one if you scroll down, there's a black one.
• 56:41
  Yes.
• 56:42
  And so they're just throwing out some ideas out there.
• 56:45
  I don't dislike Really any of them, honestly.
• 56:49
  I think the yellow one looks like an Evora that was in an accident.
• 56:52
  I did kind of think that too.
• 56:54
  And the black one sort of looks like a cross between the
• 56:57
  third gen TT and the Cayman.
• 57:00
  No, the Lexus.
• 57:01
  What's that little two door convertible Lexus?
• 57:03
  The SC430.
• 57:04
  Kind of has a profile shape.
• 57:06
  And the blue one looks like a Scion.
• 57:08
  I just kind of go, is that a TC?
• 57:10
  You just kind of look at it sideways and you're just like, okay.
• 57:12
  Again, they could produce any one of these, all three of these.
• 57:17
  I'm okay with them because I think this is exciting because when was
• 57:21
  the last time a two seat midship runabout, which is what MR2 stands
• 57:26
  for, by the way, has been produced.
• 57:27
  Something that's like a little 914 or, or, or like a Lotus Elise type of car.
• 57:32
  I thought that this is cool.
• 57:33
  This is exciting.
• 57:34
  And if they make a GR version of this, let's face it, it's going to have the
• 57:38
  three cylinder 300 horsepower turbo.
• 57:40
  They said it's going to have the three cylinder.
• 57:42
  Yeah.
• 57:42
  So that's awesome.
• 57:44
  Awesome.
• 57:44
  So I sort of don't care what it looks like.
• 57:46
  You know what I do care about?
• 57:47
  You know, since I mentioned I was in traffic.
• 57:49
  Guess what I saw?
• 57:51
  The new Indegra.
• 57:53
  Indegra.
• 57:54
  And it's fugly.
• 57:57
  I mean, it's a TLX?
• 57:58
  TSX?
• 57:59
  Which one?
• 57:59
  It's bigger than I thought it was going to be.
• 58:02
  I appreciate the lift back, but then it makes the profile look really
• 58:06
  strange, right around the C pillar.
• 58:08
  Uh, and actually I ended up seeing two of them, one in navy blue and one in gray.
• 58:13
  And the color didn't make a damn bit of difference.
• 58:15
  Cause you know how sometimes cars look better in certain colors and they do it.
• 58:18
  I was just, I was not impressed.
• 58:20
  What I did confirm is what we suspected.
• 58:23
  It's huge.
• 58:24
  It is really, really big.
• 58:26
  And it's just like It has nothing to do with an Integra.
• 58:29
  Quote, original Integra.
• 58:30
  And the only way I recognized that it was an Integra was because of
• 58:33
  the little badge on the bumper.
• 58:35
  Otherwise, you're like, okay, to your point, it's like, that's
• 58:37
  an Acura TL, TSX, or whatever.
• 58:39
  Like, all right.
• 58:40
  You know, I thought I saw one at the Cars and Coffee I went to a couple weeks ago.
• 58:44
  And whatever.
• 58:46
  It's a car.
• 58:47
  That about sums it up.
• 58:48
  It's a car with a manual transmission.
• 58:51
  I can't say that I hate it.
• 58:53
  I have to like it based on those facts, but I would not own one.
• 58:57
  Yeah, unfortunately.
• 58:58
  I mean, I'd still drive one.
• 58:59
  I'd still ride around in one.
• 59:01
  If somebody wanted to take me around a lap of the track, I'd love to experience it.
• 59:05
  But yeah, I was like, not for me.
• 59:07
  Maybe that Malibu is where I'm at.
• 59:11
  No, I would not own a Malibu.
• 59:12
  But would you own this new Afghani supercar?
• 59:16
  I mean, we'll never see it.
• 59:17
  Ooh.
• 59:18
  It's interesting.
• 59:20
  Apparently it's basically Toyota underneath.
• 59:22
  The front end is very Maxima.
• 59:24
  Also Mustang y at the same time.
• 59:27
  Stang y.
• 59:27
  It's very stank y.
• 59:29
  EQS.
• 59:33
  But not in a good way.
• 59:34
  The back looks like a McLaren.
• 59:36
  Yes.
• 59:36
  It's got a lot of different cars in it.
• 59:38
  I'm not sure the front spoiler.
• 59:41
  That's the cow catcher.
• 59:42
  Yeah.
• 59:42
  I'm like, is that the scoop people up?
• 59:44
  It's different for sure.
• 59:45
  I mean, I mean, I don't see Afghanistan as a burgeoning car
• 59:49
  manufacturer Mecca of any sort, but.
• 59:53
  You know, good on them.
• 59:53
  If they're going to try, if somebody is going to make this happen, maybe
• 59:56
  this design gets sold to somebody.
• 59:59
  I just figured it out.
• 1:00:00
  This is the will.
• 1:00:00
  I am car.
• 1:00:01
  So he couldn't sell it here in the States.
• 1:00:03
  He went to Afghanistan and had it made there.
• 1:00:06
  That's what this is.
• 1:00:08
  Tell me it's not the will.
• 1:00:08
  I am car.
• 1:00:09
  Yeah, that makes a lot more sense now for sure.
• 1:00:12
  Brad, it's time for lost and found where you scour the internet
• 1:00:18
  looking for the newest old car available on dealership lots.
• 1:00:22
  All right.
• 1:00:23
  For this month's old gem, the 1988 Cadillac DeVille base is still available.
• 1:00:31
  Ray Chevrolet.
• 1:00:32
  Yep.
• 1:00:32
  Ray Chevrolet, 275 miles from where I am right now.
• 1:00:36
  And it will stay 275 miles away.
• 1:00:39
  I'm going to go get it for you for Christmas.
• 1:00:40
  If you want to buy me a car for Christmas.
• 1:00:42
  That's going to be the running joke.
• 1:00:43
  It was Dodge darts.
• 1:00:45
  That padelack is going to end up on our holiday shopping guide as a bargain
• 1:00:49
  because it's been sitting for so long.
• 1:00:53
  It's cheaper than an EV.
• 1:00:54
  Let's see.
• 1:00:55
  We've also got the Ford GT still out there.
• 1:00:58
  I'm looking for things of note.
• 1:00:59
  There's a 2005 Buick LeSabre.
• 1:01:02
  Custom by custom.
• 1:01:05
  I mean, it's just a plain white Buick LeSabre at Mark McLarty Toyota.
• 1:01:12
  It's not quite as good as Chuck LeDuc, but Mark McLarty is pretty
• 1:01:15
  good to rival your Cadillac.
• 1:01:17
  There's a 2006 Lincoln town car signature again, signature means.
• 1:01:23
  Nothing.
• 1:01:24
  This one's in my backyard.
• 1:01:26
  It is four miles away.
• 1:01:27
  It's cheeky Ford Lincoln.
• 1:01:29
  You should go do a retro test drive.
• 1:01:30
  I think that would be fun.
• 1:01:31
  Yes, I, so I need, I need to dress up like the eighties, of course.
• 1:01:35
  100%.
• 1:01:36
  Big lapels, man.
• 1:01:37
  Big lapels.
• 1:01:38
  Yes, yes.
• 1:01:39
  And, and, uh, bell bottom pants.
• 1:01:40
  No, not those.
• 1:01:41
  Those are Jenko's, right?
• 1:01:43
  Jenko, yes.
• 1:01:44
  That's the nineties, early 2000.
• 1:01:46
  Yeah.
• 1:01:46
  The new metal phase.
• 1:01:47
  Yeah.
• 1:01:47
  Look at Tanya.
• 1:01:49
  Way to go.
• 1:01:49
  There are a couple of 2013 Corollas out here.
• 1:01:52
  Remember when we used to talk about should Andrew bank buy it?
• 1:01:55
  Yeah.
• 1:01:55
  What would Andrew buy?
• 1:01:57
  W W a B.
• 1:01:58
  We found a 2 million McLaren flood car.
• 1:02:01
  Well, this was already purchased though.
• 1:02:02
  Yeah.
• 1:02:03
  And you know what the guy said?
• 1:02:04
  It's freaking worthless.
• 1:02:07
  Is this the, is this the one that Tavares bought?
• 1:02:10
  I didn't see the video.
• 1:02:11
  Cars junk.
• 1:02:12
  And unlike.
• 1:02:13
  Andrew's flood car Mercedes that he bought, which he alleges he made money on.
• 1:02:18
  The math doesn't work for me, but he uses mountain math.
• 1:02:23
  We know how that works.
• 1:02:24
  I mean, this video is an interesting insight into why sometimes as Don
• 1:02:29
  Weberg likes to say from garage doll magazine, the cheapest exotic
• 1:02:33
  ends up being the most expensive.
• 1:02:35
  But the views for the gram.
• 1:02:39
  Meanwhile, Tanya, you came across something interesting.
• 1:02:41
  Yes.
• 1:02:41
  I did.
• 1:02:42
  Apparently there was sort of a barn find in Holland recently.
• 1:02:47
  Oh.
• 1:02:47
  230 classic cars discovered in warehouses, an abandoned church.
• 1:02:54
  Apparently there was a Dutch gentleman that was collecting
• 1:02:57
  cars for the last 40 years.
• 1:02:59
  Recently, at 82 years old, his health has declined considerably.
• 1:03:03
  So he's no longer been taking care of them.
• 1:03:05
  They're no longer, I think, in his possession.
• 1:03:06
  They were all sold off.
• 1:03:07
  And so they now are.
• 1:03:08
  Further going to go into auction, some things like Elantra B24
• 1:03:12
  Spider America is in that fleet.
• 1:03:14
  He's got other Ferraris and Alphas and Mercedes, Jags, Astons, yada, yada.
• 1:03:20
  I see a FB Mazda RX 7 here.
• 1:03:22
  I see the XJ Jag.
• 1:03:24
  One of the pictures you might go, wow, these are in really horrible condition.
• 1:03:28
  They're really filthy.
• 1:03:29
  Apparently there was a fire in one of the warehouses, but
• 1:03:33
  like the brigade got it out.
• 1:03:34
  Like immediately.
• 1:03:35
  So nothing was actually damaged.
• 1:03:37
  Apparently a lot of the cars are actually in like pristine mint condition.
• 1:03:40
  So it's unfortunate that his health failed and, you know, people found
• 1:03:45
  out about this after the fact.
• 1:03:46
  So no one really knows the backstory here.
• 1:03:48
  Like, why was he collecting all these cars?
• 1:03:50
  Like, how did he do this?
• 1:03:51
  Where did he find them?
• 1:03:52
  That's a little bit sad to miss out on that story.
• 1:03:55
  But if you're in the market for some classic cars, go figure out how to
• 1:03:58
  get in on this auction happening May 19th in the Netherlands.
• 1:04:02
  How is this still a thing?
• 1:04:03
  How many more barns full of cars are we gonna find?
• 1:04:07
  It's just ridiculous.
• 1:04:08
  Warehouses, like, there's cars shoved everywhere.
• 1:04:11
  This is what happens when you trade in your old junker for an EV.
• 1:04:15
  You're exactly right.
• 1:04:16
  You thought this thing was dead.
• 1:04:18
  This is where the cars go.
• 1:04:19
  People like Daniel buy it and shove it in a building and it sits there.
• 1:04:22
  It's there for 50 years until someone discovers it.
• 1:04:25
  In other interesting historical facts, I guess, here's a list of 10 sports
• 1:04:31
  car vehicles that share headlights or taillights from another car.
• 1:04:35
  Damn, I thought you were going to say they had three spoke steering wheels.
• 1:04:38
  No, we haven't found that list yet.
• 1:04:39
  This is a grasp.
• 1:04:41
  So the apparently the 1991 and 2001 Lamborghini Diablo share some
• 1:04:46
  illumination with the Nissan 300ZX.
• 1:04:49
  Lister Storm and Audi 80, Lotus Esprit and Toyota Corolla 11, TVR Cerbera and Ford
• 1:04:55
  Fiesta Mark 3, Panos Esperante GTR1 and the Mazda NX6, the MG and the Fiat Punto.
• 1:05:04
  Yeah!
• 1:05:04
  I like it.
• 1:05:05
  Wait, you weren't excited about the Morgan Aero 8 sharing its
• 1:05:08
  front end with the Beetle RSI?
• 1:05:10
  I thought that would be like super exciting for you.
• 1:05:12
  Yes, it's very nice.
• 1:05:14
  I like the Hayane Sonata lights, though, for your taillights.
• 1:05:18
  Zezetta Marauder and the Alpine GTA have the same taillights.
• 1:05:23
  And the Invicta S1 and the B5.
• 1:05:27
  5 Volkswagen Passat have the same.
• 1:05:30
  Tail lights.
• 1:05:31
  And interestingly, they're just rotated 90 degrees on the, this is not the same bite.
• 1:05:37
  And I was like, Oh look, that was very creative.
• 1:05:40
  Yes.
• 1:05:40
  But you won't fool us.
• 1:05:42
  That's right.
• 1:05:42
  And the real question is how many of these vehicles share their lineage
• 1:05:46
  with the legendary three spoke steering wheel of the Nissan R32?
• 1:05:49
  The answer is all the ZX, maybe the 300 ZX.
• 1:05:53
  Nope.
• 1:05:53
  Nope.
• 1:05:54
  That's got a four spoke steering wheel.
• 1:05:55
  You are a loser!
• 1:05:59
  LOSER!
• 1:06:00
  I think it's that time again.
• 1:06:02
  It's Teslagate time.
• 1:06:04
  We would be remiss.
• 1:06:05
  And speaking of steering wheels.
• 1:06:07
  Oh boy!
• 1:06:09
  Apparently, the yoke is a bit of a joke.
• 1:06:12
  Ah!
• 1:06:14
  You're pulling my yoke.
• 1:06:15
  I heard, the yoke's on them.
• 1:06:19
  The steering wheel's gonna cost ya.
• 1:06:21
  Ooooh!
• 1:06:22
  Yes, their whole yoke steering wheel idea, which Sounds silly to me unless you're
• 1:06:27
  in a Formula One car, but what do I know?
• 1:06:28
  Apparently people also think it's quite silly and not that effective as you're
• 1:06:32
  just kind of driving to the grocery store and you can buy, sold separately,
• 1:06:37
  regular circular steering wheel that's been tried and true for decades.
• 1:06:41
  However, if you're looking to replace your yoke I guess they're
• 1:06:45
  backordered because they're sold out.
• 1:06:47
  Um, how about you head on down to OG Racing and pick up yourself
• 1:06:51
  a nice Momo steering wheel?
• 1:06:52
  That's okay, because all the Model Ys where the steering wheel has come
• 1:06:56
  off in their driver's hands, you can just pick those up on eBay, I'm sure.
• 1:07:00
  I wonder if you could even, like, take a Aftermarket steering
• 1:07:03
  wheel and put it on a Tesla.
• 1:07:05
  Not without the airbag situation, right?
• 1:07:07
  So that's the problem with all that.
• 1:07:08
  It wouldn't, yeah, it wouldn't pass any type of state safety.
• 1:07:11
  But I bet it's not even, I'm like, I wouldn't be surprised if there's some sort
• 1:07:14
  of like special hub that's only for Tesla.
• 1:07:18
  Even that racing Tesla that we saw at Emra last year still had
• 1:07:22
  the stock steering wheel in it.
• 1:07:24
  Because to your point, there's a lot of things like, you know, you have to have
• 1:07:26
  your hands on the wheel for the autopilot.
• 1:07:29
  So I'm sure even if you don't use that stuff, it still probably
• 1:07:32
  freaks the car out and the software if you don't have the wheel.
• 1:07:35
  So here is one instance where I wholeheartedly advocate
• 1:07:39
  for changing vehicles.
• 1:07:41
  You've got a Tesla, you need a new steering wheel,
• 1:07:43
  just get a new fucking car.
• 1:07:46
  It's appropriate in this one instance.
• 1:07:50
  Well, you know, what is not appropriate is the use of the interior cameras.
• 1:07:55
  It's not just the interior cameras, it's the exterior cameras, because
• 1:07:59
  when it's like, oh, there's video from within my house of myself
• 1:08:03
  naked looking past a window.
• 1:08:07
  Uh.
• 1:08:08
  That's not interior camera.
• 1:08:10
  Yeah.
• 1:08:10
  You didn't hear about this?
• 1:08:11
  Apparently all the cameras on the Teslas have been recorded.
• 1:08:14
  It's like how you got the Amazon echo.
• 1:08:16
  You got to put that little sticker on your webcam, on your laptop, you know?
• 1:08:20
  So the government, it's called electrical.
• 1:08:23
  I have a yellow post it note with a smiley face, you know, so the
• 1:08:26
  government ain't looking at you topless, sitting at your computer all day.
• 1:08:30
  I don't know.
• 1:08:31
  Same thing here with the Tesla's, the cameras apparently are always
• 1:08:33
  on and they're always recording.
• 1:08:35
  And so if you're the dude or dudette.
• 1:08:38
  Back in wherever, watching the video footage, you're getting the show, maybe.
• 1:08:43
  No, it's like that movie with Robin Williams.
• 1:08:45
  You remember One Hour Photo?
• 1:08:47
  Oh, God.
• 1:08:48
  It's like super creepy.
• 1:08:49
  That's the kind of people that are into this stuff, right?
• 1:08:52
  I mean, I don't know, but I don't think they were trying to be creepy, but
• 1:08:56
  it's hard because I think I've heard of reports Where that camera actually
• 1:09:02
  caught somebody trying to burglarize a home or even burglarize a car and it
• 1:09:06
  actually caught that person on camera.
• 1:09:09
  So it's like, on the one hand, you make the argument of like, okay,
• 1:09:13
  it's a camera catching something.
• 1:09:14
  On the other hand, I don't think these people realized it was actually
• 1:09:17
  doing all this stuff and Okay, I can see the justification there.
• 1:09:21
  I would be more okay with it.
• 1:09:23
  If you could say there's an integration between ring and the Tesla or blink and
• 1:09:30
  the Tesla, where you could say when I arm my alarm system at the house, it
• 1:09:35
  can activate the cameras in the car and become part of my security system,
• 1:09:39
  which is actually kind of a cool idea.
• 1:09:42
  But that doesn't exist.
• 1:09:43
  What they're doing here is technically illegal.
• 1:09:47
  They're spying on people.
• 1:09:48
  They're recording them for no apparent reason without their consent.
• 1:09:53
  Yeah, only the government can do that.
• 1:09:55
  They're collecting data, you know, probably for the self driving,
• 1:09:59
  that information, because when the car is parked, that's a really
• 1:10:02
  important self driving data.
• 1:10:03
  The disclaimer is like when you call and you get the automated
• 1:10:06
  voice and it's like, this call may be recorded for quality assurance.
• 1:10:09
  Like that's the excuse that they're using.
• 1:10:11
  That's what they need.
• 1:10:12
  When you get in the car, they need the little zoom thing that comes
• 1:10:15
  up that says recording in progress.
• 1:10:17
  And you have to hit, got it or decline.
• 1:10:20
  If you hit decline, you can't move the car.
• 1:10:22
  Exactly.
• 1:10:22
  Here's another instance where I say, if you've got a problem with your Tesla,
• 1:10:26
  just go ahead and sell it for doge.
• 1:10:28
  Yes.
• 1:10:28
  Sell it for dogue.
• 1:10:29
  I mean, they're capturing all this footage.
• 1:10:32
  This is all footage that you can't see.
• 1:10:34
  So they're capturing footage of you that you'll never, you cannot verify.
• 1:10:37
  Yeah, exactly.
• 1:10:38
  So who knows what they got?
• 1:10:40
  And that part is creepy.
• 1:10:41
  And then them sharing it across work email, be like, look at this dingus.
• 1:10:45
  Oh my God.
• 1:10:45
  I can see his dingus.
• 1:10:46
  Oh, look at this girl's tits.
• 1:10:49
  Oh my God.
• 1:10:50
  She really needs to close her windows.
• 1:10:52
  Makes me wonder how good is the zoom on the cameras?
• 1:10:55
  Are they able to see other sensitive information?
• 1:10:57
  Can they really spy on you?
• 1:10:59
  Well, cybersecurity soapbox.
• 1:11:01
  I want to hear it.
• 1:11:02
  No, no, we're going to park that for another day.
• 1:11:04
  Let's do it.
• 1:11:05
  I want to know, but here's the other thing.
• 1:11:07
  So if those cars are recording.
• 1:11:09
  In the privacy of your home, what are they recording in public?
• 1:11:13
  Uh, you know what, as I changed lanes around the Tesla the other
• 1:11:17
  day, I was like, Hmm, so are you just recording me right now?
• 1:11:21
  And you wonder, and then what if your car was seized because it was at the
• 1:11:26
  location of a crime and then the footage could be recalled from Tesla, because
• 1:11:31
  The kit 2000 is recording everything that it sees back at Tesla headquarters.
• 1:11:36
  So what if your car is suddenly involved in like a murder investigation?
• 1:11:40
  You weren't there.
• 1:11:41
  I mean, your alibi is that you weren't there.
• 1:11:43
  They can prove that, but your car was, and now it's going to be subpoenaed.
• 1:11:47
  I mean, think about that.
• 1:11:48
  And it is a slippery slope.
• 1:11:50
  But in this modern day and age, if you go out in public and don't think
• 1:11:53
  you're being recorded by something at any point, you're kind of delusional
• 1:11:57
  because you're always being recorded.
• 1:11:59
  But there's a.
• 1:11:59
  Problem legally, because there's such a thing as consent and in certain
• 1:12:03
  states, if you're being recorded, you had to have given consent to that.
• 1:12:07
  So even if they are recording you, I don't think in none of that could be used.
• 1:12:11
  It's all garbage.
• 1:12:13
  I didn't give consent for you to spy on me and record what I was saying or what
• 1:12:16
  I can go out and commit murders again.
• 1:12:18
  Well, no, but, but the point is like, I don't know that.
• 1:12:22
  It could go that far.
• 1:12:23
  The point is, Elon is watching.
• 1:12:25
  That's all we know.
• 1:12:26
  What he's doing while he's watching.
• 1:12:28
  I see it.
• 1:12:28
  Like, do you guys remember the Watchmen where Ozymandias is
• 1:12:32
  sitting in front of all the screens?
• 1:12:34
  I just had that same vision of him sitting with like a hundred
• 1:12:38
  monitors and like just seeing.
• 1:12:39
  And he's in a throne with a cape.
• 1:12:42
  That's Elon.
• 1:12:43
  He's got, what's her name?
• 1:12:44
  And the child that's just.
• 1:12:45
  Characters and not a real name.
• 1:12:47
  His name's Kevin.
• 1:12:48
  Yeah.
• 1:12:48
  Right.
• 1:12:48
  Rufus dollar sign, asterix pound sign L seven two five nine six decimal point.
• 1:12:54
  Start eight 32.
• 1:12:55
  592.
• 1:12:56
  Musk, but they call him Kev like Ev like Evie.
• 1:13:02
  And their car lineup is sexy.
• 1:13:05
  Elon versus the world.
• 1:13:07
  Let's go there.
• 1:13:08
  Now we're cancelling NPR.
• 1:13:10
  Like, seriously?
• 1:13:12
  It's like the most government sponsored news outlet that ever existed, so.
• 1:13:16
  It's like the people that don't listen to our Patreon outro on the show.
• 1:13:20
  Do you not realize NPR exists at the behest of what's her face, who
• 1:13:25
  is the wife of Ronald McDonald, the hamburger happy clown?
• 1:13:28
  Well, you know, like 3 percent of NPR's funding does come from
• 1:13:32
  political backing, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:13:35
  Even though every year they do their NPR telethon for like
• 1:13:38
  a week straight to get money.
• 1:13:40
  Super annoying too.
• 1:13:41
  Again, most of the money comes from the McDonald's Joan B.
• 1:13:45
  Kroc.
• 1:13:46
  That's her name, right?
• 1:13:47
  At the behest of Joan B.
• 1:13:48
  Kroc.
• 1:13:49
  Who?
• 1:13:50
  She was the wife of the McDonald's founder.
• 1:13:52
  You never watched that on Netflix?
• 1:13:53
  Oh, Kroc with a K.
• 1:13:54
  I don't know, I was thinking Kroc with a C.
• 1:13:56
  Yeah, Ray Kroc's wife.
• 1:13:57
  Exactly.
• 1:13:58
  The McDonald's guy.
• 1:13:58
  Ronald McDonald, the hamburger happy clown.
• 1:14:00
  Jokes aside, everybody's always said not popular radio, whatever.
• 1:14:04
  I find Except during the Trump administration that their reporting
• 1:14:08
  has always been very neutral.
• 1:14:10
  I stopped listening to NPR during that time, not because
• 1:14:13
  I'm a fan one way or the other.
• 1:14:14
  I just thought I need to just stop listening to the news period.
• 1:14:17
  Like it was just too much for me to handle.
• 1:14:20
  It is what it is.
• 1:14:21
  I guess Elon's cancelling NPR and NPR's cancelling their Twitter account.
• 1:14:26
  Well, I guess a lot of people are going to cancel their Twitter
• 1:14:28
  accounts since they're now unverified.
• 1:14:29
  And now we can have Chad GPT pretend that they're like Oprah on Twitter.
• 1:14:33
  And Twitter's going to a pay model soon.
• 1:14:35
  And like, it's like, who cares?
• 1:14:36
  Twitter's dead, isn't it?
• 1:14:37
  I was like, who cares?
• 1:14:38
  Not yet, but he's trying to grind it into the ground.
• 1:14:40
  I think trying to roll it into the everything app that does everything,
• 1:14:44
  but does nothing at the same time.
• 1:14:46
  And in other Tesla news, they've like slashed their prices again.
• 1:14:50
  And I think what came out today is like their.
• 1:14:54
  Sales or something is down 20 percent versus No, last year,
• 1:14:59
  they have never been down.
• 1:15:01
  They have sold all the vehicles they have made.
• 1:15:05
  Just one of those things where Elon Musk is buying all the inventory
• 1:15:09
  just so that he can show the numbers.
• 1:15:11
  Yeah, right.
• 1:15:11
  Exactly.
• 1:15:12
  Uh, so many games.
• 1:15:13
  20 percent drop in net income.
• 1:15:15
  That was the thing.
• 1:15:16
  They're still holding on to those carbon credits that
• 1:15:18
  Chrysler doesn't need anymore.
• 1:15:20
  This is like the fifth or sixth time that they've, oh, here's a couple
• 1:15:23
  thousand dollars less, a couple thousand dollars less on the price of the cars.
• 1:15:26
  You're only going to do that if you're not selling.
• 1:15:28
  Right.
• 1:15:29
  Inventory.
• 1:15:30
  Exactly.
• 1:15:30
  Your demand is low.
• 1:15:32
  Because if you're still selling.
• 1:15:34
  You're gonna keep your price high.
• 1:15:36
  It's basic economics, supply versus demand, right?
• 1:15:38
  But then at the same time you hear how like, they've sold more than ever!
• 1:15:42
  It's like, okay.
• 1:15:44
  I've sold more than ever, but I lost money.
• 1:15:47
  Yeah, it's a good business model there.
• 1:15:50
  Ah, my expectations are lowered once again.
• 1:15:53
  I don't know, isn't this old?
• 1:15:54
  Didn't we hear about this a long time ago?
• 1:15:56
  Or is this another person who put the world's largest Conestoga
• 1:16:00
  wagon wheels on a Tesla?
• 1:16:02
  The one person did it on a Hellcat.
• 1:16:05
  Oh, that's what I was confused by.
• 1:16:07
  I think this is the same guy.
• 1:16:09
  It's the same guy, Whistling Diesel on YouTube.
• 1:16:12
  Not that I'm trying to give him more publicity than he already needs.
• 1:16:15
  Let's just not talk about this.
• 1:16:16
  This is also the same idiot that sawed that mirror off of the Ferrari, which
• 1:16:20
  we were talking about on Discord.
• 1:16:22
  So this guy is over the top as mountain man, Dan likes to
• 1:16:25
  call him a, he's a shock jock.
• 1:16:27
  There ever was one.
• 1:16:28
  And he basically puts those stupid wagon wheels, even bigger than the
• 1:16:33
  ones he had on the challenger Hellcat on a Tesla and flips it upside down.
• 1:16:38
  And then he's all like.
• 1:16:39
  Your move, Elon!
• 1:16:41
  Your move to do fucking what?
• 1:16:42
  Right?
• 1:16:43
  I'm like, what are you proving here?
• 1:16:44
  That, yeah, you can drive a car upside down?
• 1:16:46
  And then use a giant crane to flip it over?
• 1:16:50
  And you have to drive it in reverse to go forward.
• 1:16:53
  So, yeah.
• 1:16:55
  And you could have done that with a metal And it doesn't steer worth a shit.
• 1:16:58
  It goes straight.
• 1:16:59
  You're like, what?
• 1:17:01
  Of course it can't steer because there's zero turning radius.
• 1:17:04
  Because as soon as you turn the thing, the frickin nine
• 1:17:06
  foot wide wheel hits the door.
• 1:17:08
  That's what happened with the Hellcat.
• 1:17:10
  It, like, destroyed the car.
• 1:17:11
  Oh, yeah, 100 percent it did.
• 1:17:13
  It was awful.
• 1:17:13
  I felt so bad.
• 1:17:14
  And that was a brand new Hellcat, too.
• 1:17:16
  Pissed me off.
• 1:17:17
  And every car he touches, he destroys.
• 1:17:19
  And the bigger question I have is Where is he getting them from?
• 1:17:22
  Thank you.
• 1:17:23
  Where is he getting the money to afford this stuff?
• 1:17:25
  YouTube.
• 1:17:26
  Yeah, but the YouTube pay models If you think you're going to become a
• 1:17:30
  millionaire on YouTube, got news for you.
• 1:17:33
  Like the payout structures are awful.
• 1:17:35
  You have to have like a jillion views a second, and then
• 1:17:38
  they pay you like 10 bucks.
• 1:17:39
  Really?
• 1:17:40
  Why do you care?
• 1:17:41
  Screw that guy.
• 1:17:44
  Lowered expectation.
• 1:17:45
  Well, It's that time that we go down south and talk about alligators and beer.
• 1:18:07
  Birdman.
• 1:18:08
  And alligators drinking beer.
• 1:18:09
  That's right, beer drowning alligators.
• 1:18:12
  So last month we talked about the new Netflix series called And I vowed to
• 1:18:18
  you guys that I was going to watch it.
• 1:18:20
  And as promised, I did.
• 1:18:21
  I binged it.
• 1:18:22
  I watched every episode despite the previews that show you the
• 1:18:27
  raccoon Aquanet blowtorch and all the other stuff that's going on.
• 1:18:31
  It is not what you think it is.
• 1:18:33
  It's not a Florida man putting wagon wheels on a Tesla and driving around.
• 1:18:37
  Nope.
• 1:18:37
  Nope.
• 1:18:37
  Nope.
• 1:18:38
  So it is definitely a drama.
• 1:18:41
  It's dark.
• 1:18:42
  It's like a mobster type of thing.
• 1:18:44
  So I think Bateman produces it.
• 1:18:46
  So he did Ozarks.
• 1:18:48
  Correct.
• 1:18:49
  And so it has that Ozarks feel to it, right?
• 1:18:51
  It is a little gritty at times.
• 1:18:53
  The cast is interesting.
• 1:18:55
  Anthony La Paglia plays the father of the Florida man.
• 1:18:59
  Some hilarity ensues.
• 1:19:01
  There is some stupid stuff that happens.
• 1:19:03
  The most entertaining Florida man esque as we like to report it on this show
• 1:19:09
  is with the news reporter and it's usually in the background of the scene
• 1:19:13
  and she'll be reporting upon like the stuff that we talk about, Florida man
• 1:19:16
  goes on golf course and crashes in the telephone pole and 20 miles an hour and
• 1:19:19
  blows up his car and an alligator eats him, you know, all that kind of stuff.
• 1:19:22
  And it, and so that's in the background.
• 1:19:25
  And then there is another sort of ancillary character in the show that pops
• 1:19:29
  up and it all starts with him trying to bring a gun into Florida and buy a gun
• 1:19:34
  and he's a cop and like all this and he ends up like your typical Florida man
• 1:19:39
  that we talk about in these stories.
• 1:19:41
  He's like he's wearing his basketball jersey and he's got Crocs and
• 1:19:45
  he's like beat up and he's dirty.
• 1:19:47
  And he shows up at one point on a mini bike that he stole.
• 1:19:50
  That character sort of epitomizes all the things that we joke about,
• 1:19:54
  but it's not the theme of the show.
• 1:19:56
  The show is to your point, Tanya, more like Ozarks.
• 1:20:00
  It's drug running and they're looking for gold.
• 1:20:03
  And there's a mobster involved, people backstabbing each other.
• 1:20:06
  It's not bad.
• 1:20:07
  It's actually excellent.
• 1:20:08
  I highly recommend watching it.
• 1:20:10
  It was a great couple hours of these eight episodes.
• 1:20:14
  By all means, watch it.
• 1:20:15
  It's actually quite good, but don't go into the expectations of it being
• 1:20:20
  like we joked about a continuation of my name is Earl because it's not, it
• 1:20:24
  sounds like a Florida man origin story.
• 1:20:26
  It's sort of click baity in the sense that they called it Florida man to
• 1:20:31
  be sort of like tiger King, where you want to jump in there and I'm
• 1:20:34
  like, I got to watch Florida, man.
• 1:20:35
  They could have called it something else.
• 1:20:37
  Like, I don't want to say it's like Magnum PI.
• 1:20:39
  It's more like in that genre of.
• 1:20:42
  He was a cop and like all this stuff happens to him and it's
• 1:20:46
  like a series of unfortunate events and they're not that funny.
• 1:20:49
  You know, there are things that happen to him and he's, you know, he's trying
• 1:20:52
  to work back from that, you know, a rose by any other name is still the same, but
• 1:20:56
  yeah, the Florida man thing gets you, but I recommend G you guys got to watch it.
• 1:21:00
  It's on my list.
• 1:21:01
  I just haven't gotten around to it yet.
• 1:21:03
  Got to finish up.
• 1:21:03
  Love is blind.
• 1:21:04
  Love Island.
• 1:21:05
  Is that what you said?
• 1:21:05
  You're watching?
• 1:21:06
  No.
• 1:21:08
  You know what?
• 1:21:08
  I thought it was going to be light on Florida man.
• 1:21:11
  And at the 11th hour, I was like, let me look again.
• 1:21:14
  And you just Google search for Florida man and see what comes up.
• 1:21:18
  Oh, that's what I always do.
• 1:21:22
  I didn't know it was a secret.
• 1:21:25
  No, I kid you not.
• 1:21:26
  I had a meeting at work.
• 1:21:27
  Somehow this came up and people didn't know if you just put Florida man
• 1:21:32
  or Florida man stories into Google.
• 1:21:35
  What it gives you back three people in the meeting didn't know.
• 1:21:37
  And they did it.
• 1:21:38
  And their faces like, Oh, you just do Florida man, click news.
• 1:21:43
  So it filters down and you just got headline after headline after.
• 1:21:46
  Oh yeah.
• 1:21:47
  They were beside themselves.
• 1:21:48
  And then the one guy just busted out laughing.
• 1:21:50
  I think he got like to the bottom of it and he saw something that
• 1:21:53
  got his attention and he's like.
• 1:21:55
  Oh my God, I didn't know this was a thing.
• 1:21:57
  And I'm like, what kind of rock have you been living under?
• 1:22:00
  I mean, you can do it with it.
• 1:22:01
  You can do any state, Maryland man, Texas man, Michigan man,
• 1:22:04
  Michigan woman, California woman, you know, do whatever you want and
• 1:22:08
  just filter all the news headlines.
• 1:22:09
  The Florida man is always the most entertaining.
• 1:22:12
  It's a special breed.
• 1:22:14
  It really is.
• 1:22:15
  And we'll see that here.
• 1:22:16
  I, they got some nuggets.
• 1:22:17
  I wasn't expecting them.
• 1:22:18
  But before we go to Florida, we're going to go up into the great Northwest.
• 1:22:22
  I haven't read any of these.
• 1:22:23
  I'm going in blind.
• 1:22:24
  For an Oregon man.
• 1:22:25
  Oh, in celebration of Herb Day, we're going to Oregon.
• 1:22:29
  Oregon.
• 1:22:30
  Oregano.
• 1:22:30
  Well, speaking of things that are green, this dude decided to Wipe
• 1:22:36
  out all his family's bank account, 200, 000, drive down the highway,
• 1:22:41
  and literally make it rain 100.
• 1:22:45
  Hundo's out the window!
• 1:22:47
  It was Hyundai?
• 1:22:48
  It was a Chevy Malibu.
• 1:22:50
  Ah, B.
• 1:22:51
  Chaos kind of ensued because when people realized there were hundos
• 1:22:55
  flying around, everybody was pulling over and like collecting all the money.
• 1:22:59
  What possesses a person to do that?
• 1:23:01
  He wanted to share his money generously with others.
• 1:23:05
  Except you just ripped off your There must be more to that story.
• 1:23:08
  Nonetheless, if you were in Oregon that day on highway Something
• 1:23:13
  or other, you might have had a little early present there.
• 1:23:18
  We'll call that a tax return.
• 1:23:20
  Yeah, this is like when the beer truck turns over.
• 1:23:23
  Yes, exactly.
• 1:23:24
  scrambling to get cases of beer.
• 1:23:25
  When it's Bud Light, nobody wants it.
• 1:23:27
  That's the problem.
• 1:23:28
  They're like, I don't even want to clean this up.
• 1:23:30
  There's a lot of people out there with no taste.
• 1:23:33
  It's half the calories in the same taste, Brad.
• 1:23:35
  Which is, like I said, no taste.
• 1:23:37
  So now we'll go to Florida.
• 1:23:39
  You've got to love it when it starts with only in Florida, man spotted riding
• 1:23:44
  jet ski motorcycle in Cape Corral.
• 1:23:49
  Go ahead and click that link and check the picture out.
• 1:23:51
  He is literally on a jet ski converted to a motorcycle.
• 1:23:55
  Why, why is this a problem?
• 1:24:01
  Well, apparently the police would offer that it probably is illegal.
• 1:24:07
  Not having a license plate, not having headlights, not having a
• 1:24:11
  rear view mirror or turn signals.
• 1:24:13
  So, so jet skis have headlights.
• 1:24:15
  You can have a headlight.
• 1:24:16
  Well, we don't know if this one has a headlight.
• 1:24:18
  It's probably as safe as if it was a regular motorcycle.
• 1:24:24
  It's amphibious.
• 1:24:25
  He did the Top Gear challenge and made an amphibious vehicle.
• 1:24:29
  He built this himself.
• 1:24:30
  I gave him props.
• 1:24:31
  And him and his, his purple backpack.
• 1:24:33
  I can imagine how this chase scene should have played out.
• 1:24:37
  All he had to do was find a boat ramp.
• 1:24:39
  He'd be gone.
• 1:24:40
  Well, not even that.
• 1:24:41
  Wrap the throttle, bang a hard right and go off into the swamp.
• 1:24:45
  Yes.
• 1:24:46
  This guy's got it figured out.
• 1:24:48
  This is the ultimate escape vehicle for Florida.
• 1:24:51
  Wow.
• 1:24:54
  You know what?
• 1:24:55
  He could be onto something.
• 1:24:56
  He truly needs to make them amphibious and he could be onto something.
• 1:25:01
  He could have a business.
• 1:25:02
  I love the detail that was put into this.
• 1:25:05
  Do you see the exhaust tip, how it comes out the back of
• 1:25:09
  like that fairing back there?
• 1:25:11
  It's just, he spent a lot of time making this work.
• 1:25:15
  This is amazing.
• 1:25:16
  It's that Florida man ingenuity.
• 1:25:17
  I love the backpack and the matching hat.
• 1:25:20
  He's going off to school riding his jet ski.
• 1:25:22
  I mean, he had a jet ski and he had a motorcycle and he had one too many joints.
• 1:25:28
  Let's put them together.
• 1:25:29
  No, he was talking to some friends and God knows what they said.
• 1:25:32
  And he goes, hold my beer.
• 1:25:33
  And then this came out.
• 1:25:34
  Oh my God.
• 1:25:35
  So he had a jet ski that he needed to transport.
• 1:25:38
  But he only had a motorcycle.
• 1:25:39
  So he said, all right, well, if I got to move my jet ski and I
• 1:25:43
  got a motorcycle, I'm going to move them both at the same time.
• 1:25:46
  Hold my beer.
• 1:25:47
  I'm a bear.
• 1:25:48
  But speaking of Florida man, ingenuity, take a look at this next one.
• 1:25:52
  And let me know, would you buy?
• 1:25:56
  This Ford Crown Victoria convertible.
• 1:25:58
  What the hell?
• 1:26:00
  Now, I look at this, and the second picture, he's got a smirk,
• 1:26:04
  shit eating grin, I love it.
• 1:26:05
  He's like, I know what I got.
• 1:26:06
  No lowballs, I know what I got.
• 1:26:09
  Why is the air filter routed with like a 5 inch PVC pipe
• 1:26:14
  up from the front of the hood?
• 1:26:16
  Up to the dashboard!
• 1:26:18
  This vehicle, too, can go in water, so therefore, if you look
• 1:26:23
  at it, he made it look like a boat.
• 1:26:25
  It has a boat windshield, and that's a snorkel so that when he goes in the water,
• 1:26:30
  he doesn't suck water into the motor.
• 1:26:32
  Goddamn, you're right.
• 1:26:33
  My favorite part is the temp tag.
• 1:26:36
  He just registered this vehicle.
• 1:26:38
  Better than the shit eating grin.
• 1:26:40
  Better than, obviously.
• 1:26:41
  All lack of safety on this.
• 1:26:43
  Cause if you look at the seatbelt mounts, it's covered with foam, right?
• 1:26:47
  I don't even know how that's bolted.
• 1:26:48
  I would argue that the jet ski motorcycle is safer than this.
• 1:26:52
  All of this is absolutely amazing because it is almost ready for a lemons race.
• 1:26:58
  And at first I thought, maybe, maybe just, maybe this is a lemons car.
• 1:27:04
  You're right, actually.
• 1:27:05
  So it is part of the Gambler 500, Florida, which is like an off
• 1:27:11
  road rally, blah, blah, blah, two, three, four day challenge.
• 1:27:17
  And basically, yes, it's like off roading lemons.
• 1:27:21
  But, did you scroll down to the picture where he has his
• 1:27:26
  shit eating grin on his face?
• 1:27:27
  Did you look at the logo?
• 1:27:29
  Heh heh heh heh heh.
• 1:27:31
  That palm tree's got boobs!
• 1:27:34
  That or truck nuts.
• 1:27:35
  I haven't figured out which yet.
• 1:27:36
  And I love the fact that it's pissing rain on him.
• 1:27:44
  Everything about this is awesome.
• 1:27:47
  Okay.
• 1:27:47
  Our last Florida man, and there's a water theme here.
• 1:27:51
  I'm going to die.
• 1:27:52
  Like my stomach hurts.
• 1:27:53
  Like this is going to, it can't get any worse.
• 1:27:56
  Oh, it gets better.
• 1:27:57
  23 year old man in his Nissan Sentra, crossed the center line, collided with
• 1:28:02
  a semi truck, so it had an accident.
• 1:28:05
  First thought, you have an accident.
• 1:28:06
  Get naked, get naked and run into the swamp because I'm gonna be less
• 1:28:12
  noticeable naked going through a swamp.
• 1:28:16
  I'm gonna be less noticeable as gator food.
• 1:28:19
  While he was looking for the jet ski motorcycle so he can get away.
• 1:28:23
  I think that's like step one in the Florida Man handbook.
• 1:28:28
  Step one, no matter what you did.
• 1:28:29
  Step one, get naked.
• 1:28:31
  You gotta reduce the drag and save some weight so you can run faster.
• 1:28:35
  Simplify and add lightness.
• 1:28:37
  Simplify and add nudity.
• 1:28:41
  Lord of Man motto.
• 1:28:42
  Harlan Chapman had it right.
• 1:28:44
  This guy is brave.
• 1:28:46
  Brave?
• 1:28:47
  Brave is the word you use?
• 1:28:48
  Yes!
• 1:28:48
  Yes!
• 1:28:49
  I don't know that I would use that particular adjective to describe this guy.
• 1:28:55
  The other ones were taken, but Brave, I say, because he got naked
• 1:29:00
  and jumped into a swamp at 8.
• 1:29:01
  30 PM!
• 1:29:03
  Ooh!
• 1:29:04
  You can't see what shit's out there?
• 1:29:06
  What swamp thing's there to eat you?
• 1:29:08
  Ooh, that's He got He got in so deep, apparently he was happy when the cops
• 1:29:13
  found him, cause he wanted to get the F out of there, but I don't even think
• 1:29:17
  scary swampland is it in the water?
• 1:29:20
  Is it something about when the water evaporates and goes into the air
• 1:29:25
  that people just go crazy in Florida?
• 1:29:28
  You know, they say it's because of the water that New York bagels are so good.
• 1:29:32
  So I could see something that Florida causing all these people figuring it out.
• 1:29:37
  It's from all the drug running in the eighties.
• 1:29:40
  There's so much cocaine in the water.
• 1:29:44
  It's just everywhere.
• 1:29:45
  It's like that cocaine bear thing.
• 1:29:47
  You see, Oh my God.
• 1:29:50
  They should just rename Florida.
• 1:29:52
  Okay.
• 1:29:53
  It was cougar town.
• 1:29:54
  Now, now cocaine town.
• 1:29:56
  So now it's time to go behind the pit wall and talk about next week's news.
• 1:30:01
  Brad and Tanya are resident Formula One experts.
• 1:30:05
  What has been going on?
• 1:30:06
  There was a race.
• 1:30:07
  It ended poorly.
• 1:30:08
  You're welcome.
• 1:30:10
  Mic drop.
• 1:30:11
  Depends on your perspective, but that was a cluster.
• 1:30:14
  Oh my God, the end of that.
• 1:30:16
  So many wrecks.
• 1:30:17
  Apparently they let a bunch of club racers out in an F1 track.
• 1:30:20
  Yes.
• 1:30:21
  It was Romper Room.
• 1:30:23
  Who even won that one?
• 1:30:24
  Verstappen.
• 1:30:25
  Verstappen, Hamilton, Alonso.
• 1:30:28
  And then Alonso, he lost five spots and had to give it to Russell.
• 1:30:32
  He was given a five second penalty, took him off the podium
• 1:30:34
  and put Russell on the podium.
• 1:30:36
  And then about an hour later, that penalty was reversed.
• 1:30:39
  And then they put Alonzo back on the podium, then Russell off the podium.
• 1:30:43
  Was that that race or the race before?
• 1:30:45
  That was Australia.
• 1:30:46
  Russell crashed.
• 1:30:47
  He was crashed out, or his car broke.
• 1:30:48
  He was DNF'd in Australia.
• 1:30:50
  Was he?
• 1:30:51
  I think that was the race before, because Alonzo also came in third in Saudi.
• 1:30:55
  I think that was the one that had the, uh, podium.
• 1:30:58
  I retract my statement.
• 1:30:58
  Because Russell came in fourth there, but he DNF'd in Australia, because like
• 1:31:02
  Sorry Mark Hewitt, I retract my statement.
• 1:31:03
  Eight cars DNF'd and like six of those eight was because
• 1:31:08
  they crashed into each other.
• 1:31:10
  Driving in Florida.
• 1:31:11
  It was bad.
• 1:31:12
  It was romper room.
• 1:31:13
  But we've been on spring break for the last couple weeks.
• 1:31:16
  So there has been no races since April 2nd.
• 1:31:19
  And the next upcoming race is the 30th in Azerbaijan.
• 1:31:23
  You know, I'm really glad that they get a break.
• 1:31:25
  You know, they worked so hard.
• 1:31:27
  They really deserve a spring break and a summer break.
• 1:31:30
  I'm so happy for them to get quick respite from all the hard work that they put in.
• 1:31:35
  They are athletes.
• 1:31:36
  Let's get, I know, I know.
• 1:31:38
  I'm, I'm, I say that in jest, but whatever.
• 1:31:40
  So there's some interesting changes happening now that formula W.
• 1:31:45
  has been on pause.
• 1:31:46
  Formula One, the FIA made an announcement that there's a new Formula
• 1:31:50
  Academy for women drivers coming on.
• 1:31:53
  They've got five teams already lined up in there.
• 1:31:56
  I think the inaugural season opener race is coming up in Austria on 28th, 29th.
• 1:32:03
  So it's right ahead of the Azerbaijan men's Formula One race on April 30th.
• 1:32:07
  And this program is actually being managed.
• 1:32:12
  The director of this is Susie Wolf.
• 1:32:14
  And if Wolf sounds familiar, it should, because that is Toto Wolf's
• 1:32:18
  wife, the principal for Mercedes.
• 1:32:20
  The most overpaid person in Formula One right now.
• 1:32:22
  I mean, he's not having a good year, but we'll see if they can turn it around.
• 1:32:26
  He's still getting paid.
• 1:32:27
  Good year or bad year.
• 1:32:28
  He's still making that doge coin.
• 1:32:30
  I mean, you know.
• 1:32:32
  We've been talking a lot this season about WRC and at the time of this
• 1:32:38
  recording here on IRF day, we are just ahead of the Croatia rally, but that
• 1:32:44
  also comes at the heels of some very sad news and a statement from Hyundai
• 1:32:49
  Motorsports on April the 13th, 2023 Hyundai Motorsport is deeply saddened
• 1:32:54
  to confirm that WRC driver, Craig Breen, lost his life during an accident during
• 1:32:59
  pre event testing for the Croatia rally.
• 1:33:02
  Co driver James Fulton was unharmed in the incident that occurred just
• 1:33:06
  after midday local time on the 13th and Hyundai Motorsports sends its
• 1:33:11
  sincerest condolences to Craig's family, friends, and his many fans.
• 1:33:15
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• 1:33:19
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• 1:33:22
  awesome results he's had at the last three rounds of the 2023 season of WRC.
• 1:33:27
  And he was one of our hopefuls.
• 1:33:29
  He was definitely not an underdog, a contender to take the crown this year.
• 1:33:33
  And I think we're all shocked and saddened by the sudden news and
• 1:33:37
  sudden passing of Craig Breen.
• 1:33:39
  And I think I saw something where Toyota was only going to or something like that.
• 1:33:44
  To kind of limit the amount of points that they could take away from the race
• 1:33:47
  and some sort of show of solidarity.
• 1:33:50
  Yeah.
• 1:33:50
  Missing man type of thing.
• 1:33:51
  Yeah.
• 1:33:52
  Because Hyundai is down a driver.
• 1:33:53
  Now they've just got Terry Neuville.
• 1:33:55
  They haven't said who's going to fill his spot.
• 1:33:58
  It is a little quick to just jump into that, you know, maybe
• 1:34:01
  one of the backup drivers.
• 1:34:03
  Well, again, we won't have results from Croatia or any additional news
• 1:34:07
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• 1:34:09
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• 1:34:12
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  We've done that configuration several times before.
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  If you've never done it before, it is the biggest, baddest configuration at Pocono
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