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The Fifth Hour: Ziploc Bag-O-Fun · The Ben Maller Show

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  Speaker 1: Kaboom!
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  Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, 1,200 minutes a
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  Speaker 2: week was enough.
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  Speaker 3: Think again.
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  Speaker 2: He's the last remnants of the old republic, a sole
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  Speaker 2: bastion of fairness. He treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter
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  Speaker 2: the same as the rich pill poppers in the penthouse.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: The clearinghouse of hot takes break free for something special.
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  Speaker 2: The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts right now.
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  Speaker 1: In the air everywhere, the Fifth Hour with me, Ben Maller,
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  Speaker 1: and a happy Saturday to you. We are recording this
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  Speaker 1: early on the seventh day of November, and you listen
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  Speaker 1: when you want, as we say. And based on the analytics,
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  Speaker 1: the nerds, many of you do not listen the day
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  Speaker 1: this podcast comes out, which is fine. We don't care
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  Speaker 1: when you listen as long as you listen. The 311th
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  Speaker 1: day of the year, there are 54 days until New
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  Speaker 1: Year's Eve.
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  Speaker 3: 54 days remaining.
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  Speaker 1: We celebrate National Bittersweet Chocolate and Almonds Day, which is
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  Speaker 1: another one of these made-up holidays, it seems like, for
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  Speaker 1: someone who wants to pretend that candy is healthy. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: I'm one of those.
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  Speaker 3: People, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: I love chocolate covered almonds. I get the big thing
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  Speaker 1: at Costco. They used to have a plastic container. Now
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  Speaker 1: they have a bag at Costco, which I do not enjoy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not as big a fan as the plastic container,
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  Speaker 1: but I do get that. And I convinced myself at
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  Speaker 1: one point, since it's got almonds and almonds were considered
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  Speaker 1: healthy somewhere along the way, that that is a healthy meal,
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  Speaker 1: which I do not believe it is.
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  Speaker 3: It is hug a bear day today.
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  Speaker 1: I am told that is for the teddy bear, that
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  Speaker 1: you should not attempt to hug a grizzly bear.
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  Speaker 3: It is strongly discouraged.
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  Speaker 1: You should try to avoid, if you find a grizzly bear,
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  Speaker 1: if you're in Montana or something like that, hanging out
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  Speaker 1: in the place where Skeeter used to live or our
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  Speaker 1: friend Tammy in Montana, that area, you might want to
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  Speaker 1: avoid it. It's Notary Public Day. Yeah, that's big. You
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  Speaker 1: know you're a grown-up when you need things notarized. I've
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  Speaker 1: had to have things notarized a few times in my life.
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  Speaker 1: They have mobile notaries that will come to your house
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  Speaker 1: and sit in your kitchen and fill everything out. This
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  Speaker 1: is the anniversary back on 1811, the Battle of Tippecanoe.
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  Speaker 1: And that was the battle that took place where William
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  Speaker 1: Henry Harrison's forces took on the Native American warrior's and
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  Speaker 1: this was associated with the Confederacy in Indiana. Very famous
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  Speaker 1: if you've been to Indiana. I've heard of this a
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  Speaker 1: few times. I've actually been to the spot. I guess
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  Speaker 1: there's a museum. I heard there was a museum. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if there is or not, but there you go.
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  Speaker 3: Battle of Tippecanoe.
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  Speaker 1: We had the birth in 1874, the logo for the
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  Speaker 1: Republican Party, a cartoonist named Thomas Nast. helped popularize the elephant,
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  Speaker 1: which has to this day become the symbol of the
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  Speaker 1: Republican Party. That goes back, that's 150-something years. It's been
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  Speaker 1: a minute. There was a big milestone for Nico in
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  Speaker 1: Canada and our other guys in Vancouver and Winnipeg and
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  Speaker 1: Edmonton and Toronto, all you guys in the big cities
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  Speaker 1: that listen. The last spike of Canada's first transcontinental railway
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  Speaker 1: was went in on.
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  Speaker 3: This date in 1885.
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  Speaker 1: And somebody wrote it down, and it's part of history.
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  Speaker 1: So there you go. And in 1916, you had the
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  Speaker 1: first woman elected to the Congress. Four years after the
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  Speaker 1: end of women's suffrage, someone named Jeanette Rankin of Montana
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  Speaker 1: was the first woman female in Congress. What else happened
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  Speaker 1: on this day?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, this is a big one.
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  Speaker 1: I've been to this place in New York. You ever
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  Speaker 1: been to MoMA, the Museum of Modern Art in New
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  Speaker 1: York City? It opened back in 1929. So my computer-like
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  Speaker 1: brain tells me we're three years away from the 100th
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  Speaker 1: anniversary of MoMA.
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  Speaker 3: That's exciting.
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  Speaker 1: Buck Rogers became a thing, which I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: a thing anymore, but it was popular when I was
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  Speaker 1: a kid. Buck Rogers began as a radio show. Radio
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  Speaker 1: in 1932. Buck Rogers in the 25th century debuted on
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  Speaker 1: CBS Radio, and that was very popular back in the day.
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  Speaker 1: The Russian Revolution, that seems like a big deal. That
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  Speaker 1: happened in 1917 when Lenin's crew overthrew the provisional government.
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  Speaker 1: It's called the October Revolution because Russia... was still using
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  Speaker 1: the old calendar. So that happened 109 years ago today.
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  Speaker 1: What else happened on this day? I'm trying to think
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  Speaker 1: what else happened. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Franklin Roosevelt,
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  Speaker 1: Franklin D. Roosevelt, reelected four more years. He won a
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  Speaker 1: fourth presidential election.
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  Speaker 3: That's hard to do. We had a loser.
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  Speaker 1: Richard Nixon lost the California gubernatorial race in 1962. And
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  Speaker 1: he told the media afterwards, the legend is, he said, listen,
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  Speaker 1: you're not going to have me to kick around anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Six years later, six years.
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  Speaker 1: Later in 1970, what was it, 1972, I believe. No,
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  Speaker 1: it must have been later than that. It was a
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  Speaker 1: few years later. I don't know the exact date, but
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  Speaker 1: he became, obviously became president of the United States. And
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  Speaker 1: he won 49 states. I think we talked about an
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  Speaker 1: election like that in a previous.
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  Speaker 3: Episode of the show.
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  Speaker 1: And 1967, President Lyndon Johnson established what is known as
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  Speaker 1: the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which gave us Sesame Street,
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  Speaker 1: the electric company, Mr. Rogers, big part of my childhood,
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  Speaker 1: although I can't tell you the last time I watched
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  Speaker 1: it PBS. I guess I watched some of those Ken
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  Speaker 1: Burns documentaries. He's like the only one that does documentaries
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  Speaker 1: for PBS. And I used to be a big Bob
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  Speaker 1: Ross guy. Loved me some Bob Ross back in the day.
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  Speaker 1: It was very frustrating when I started trying to be
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  Speaker 1: like Bob Ross and I attempted to paint and my
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  Speaker 1: happy little accidents were very upsetting accidents.
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  Speaker 3: That was That was part of the problem.
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  Speaker 1: Little League Baseball in the early 1970s, New Jersey, the
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  Speaker 1: first state to prohibit sex discrimination. Before, you were allowed
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  Speaker 1: to discriminate, but 1973, you weren't. After that, big day
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  Speaker 1: for me was in 1991. Now, Magic Johnson, the Lakers star,
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  Speaker 1: announced that he was HIV positive and immediately retired from basketball.
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  Speaker 3: This was a stunner. Now, that is not the only stunner.
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  Speaker 1: On that date, I always remember this, because on that
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  Speaker 1: date in 1991, a big influential radio guy who was
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  Speaker 1: a big part of my love of radio, Jim Healy,
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  Speaker 1: who goofed, I've got to know, this L.A. sportscaster, that
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  Speaker 1: was the day Jim Healy got a star on the
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  Speaker 1: Hollywood Walk of Fame, which I remember because the L.A.
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  Speaker 1: media contingent, and I was not in the media, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't start for a few years after that, But the L.A.
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  Speaker 1: media were all at the Jim Healy thing on the
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  Speaker 1: Hollywood Walk of Fame, and then they all had to
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  Speaker 1: hightail it over to the forum because of Magic Johnson's
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  Speaker 1: announcement that he would be retiring from the NBA. And
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  Speaker 1: then he came back a little while later, and I
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  Speaker 1: covered Magic when he coached. That was a disaster for
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  Speaker 1: part of a season. He coached the Lakers.
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  Speaker 3: Not— Not the good, not the good.
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  Speaker 1: And the last other fun fact on this seventh day
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  Speaker 1: of November, Twitter, now known as X, made its stock
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  Speaker 1: market debut in 2013, and it closed its first trading
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  Speaker 1: day with a valuation of about $ 30 billion. I think
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  Speaker 1: it was more than that. I don't know how much
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  Speaker 1: it's worth now. I know Elon Musk paid a ton,
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  Speaker 1: an absolute ton of For it.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Now, meanwhile, let's get to the meat of the matter
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  Speaker 1: here on the Fifth Hour podcast.
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  Speaker 3: And oh, the memories.
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  Speaker 1: So we talked about this the other day. And I
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  Speaker 1: know Alf, the alien opiner, wanted me to get more
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  Speaker 1: in depth in this. So Tom Brady has a watch problem.
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  Speaker 1: We documented that. I think that was on the Thursday
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  Speaker 1: episode of the show this week. And it's not a
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  Speaker 1: problem in the traditional sense, like gambling or drinking or
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  Speaker 1: believing that the Dallas Cowboys are actually going to win
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  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl or the Raiders are actually good. Tom
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  Speaker 1: Brady's problem is that he's got so much money, he
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  Speaker 1: has run out of sensible things to purchase. The multi-time
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  Speaker 1: platinum Super Bowl champion who's now making $ 375 million to
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  Speaker 1: give marginal commentary on NFL games. has turned his wrist
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  Speaker 1: into a traveling jewelry exhibition. Coming to a town near
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  Speaker 1: you now, Fox recently showcased six luxury watches that Tom
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  Speaker 1: Brady has worn.
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  Speaker 3: So far this season.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what he's going to wear tomorrow on
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  Speaker 1: the Fox Game of the Week, America's Game of the Week,
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  Speaker 1: the Packers and the Patriots. We'll find out about that tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: But in the meantime, he's worn all these different watches.
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  Speaker 1: They documented them. The combined value, over $ 2 million.
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  Speaker 3: $ 2 million.
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  Speaker 1: That is not a misspeak $ 2 million for six objects
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  Speaker 1: that tell you what time it is. Oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: this just in to the Fifth Hour Podcast, you have
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  Speaker 1: a phone that will tell you what time it is. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the most expensive is a Audemars Piguet. I believe I'm
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  Speaker 1: butchering that. Maybe I'm saying it right. Tell me if
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying it right.
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  Speaker 3: Audemars Piguet.
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  Speaker 1: Royal Oak self-winding flying something, something, something. They just put
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  Speaker 1: all these big words in there. That watch valued at
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  Speaker 1: approximately $ 600, 000. Now, I have no idea what most of
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  Speaker 1: this means. This thing sounds like something a European aristocrat
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  Speaker 1: would order at a restaurant before having the waiter executed
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  Speaker 1: under a guillotine somewhere in France. Tom Brady also has
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  Speaker 1: a $ 500, 000 Rolex.
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  Speaker 3: Why not?
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  Speaker 1: The Daytona Rainbow. I don't know what that means. He
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  Speaker 1: has a $ 475, 000 Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Rainbow. Again, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of big words make it sound important. Apparently, if
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  Speaker 1: you have enough money, you can purchase the entire rainbow.
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  Speaker 1: Not just the reading rainbow, the entire rainbow. Somewhere, a
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  Speaker 1: leprechaun is filing a police report. Not Mike the Leprechaun. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the cheapest watch in the showcase of watches is a
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  Speaker 1: platinum Rolex Landweller, retailing at just $ 70, 000. Now, that is
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  Speaker 1: a bargain. So that is the watch that Brady wears
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  Speaker 1: when he's, I guess, slumming it, when he's going down.
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  Speaker 3: To Skid Row.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, going to a dive bar. He said, let me
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  Speaker 1: put my $ 68, 400 watch on. Maybe he's taking the garbage out.
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  Speaker 1: You think Brady's ever taken the garbage out since he
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  Speaker 1: became Tom Brady? You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You think he has like a generic, once a week
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  Speaker 1: he'll have like a generic breakfast cereal? Probably not, right?
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  Speaker 1: Probably not. He didn't eat breakfast cereal. And there's a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of other ones. We talked about it. There's a
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  Speaker 1: $ 700, 000 watch that he wore during the Super Bowl. It
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  Speaker 1: was closer to $ 800, 000. Brady has so many watches. He
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  Speaker 1: actually auctioned off 21 of his watches and cashed in
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  Speaker 1: $ 4. 6 million. So I guess he needed some space in
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  Speaker 1: the back of his garage, his one-car garage. Now, I
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  Speaker 1: have nothing against Tom Brady. He has made a lot
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  Speaker 1: of money. He's been good at what he does. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know that he's particularly great as a broadcaster, but
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  Speaker 1: he's earned his money. Somebody was giving him the money
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  Speaker 1: without a knife to, he didn't bring to put a
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  Speaker 1: knife to somebody's neck or shoot anyone or threaten to
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  Speaker 1: shoot anyone. He earned the money because people wanted to
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  Speaker 1: give him the money, and he can spend it on
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  Speaker 1: watches or yachts or helicopters or rare Pokemon cards or
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  Speaker 1: a private island populated entirely by people who tell.
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  Speaker 3: Him how handsome he is.
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  Speaker 1: However, there is something wonderfully obnoxious about And I was
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  Speaker 1: talking about this the other day, and I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: expand on it here, about wearing a $ 600, 000 watch.
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  Speaker 3: To comment on a football game.
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  Speaker 1: Brady used to love the story, the man in the arena,
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  Speaker 1: and now he's the man looking down at the arena.
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  Speaker 1: The $ 600, 000 watch to broadcast a football game is the
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  Speaker 1: equivalent of driving a Lamborghini through a school zone while
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  Speaker 1: waving a stack of $ 100 bills out the window. Don't
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  Speaker 1: be that guy, pal. You're not that guy. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: a watch guy. I do wear a watch. I have
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  Speaker 1: an Apple Watch, which I think these days, I got
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  Speaker 1: it a couple years ago, I think these days it's
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  Speaker 1: like $ 200, $ 250. You might get one on sale, but
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  Speaker 1: I have an Apple Watch. It counts my steps.
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  Speaker 3: I need that.
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  Speaker 1: It tells me the time. It also has a thingamajig
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  Speaker 1: there where I can, it has a stopwatch. which is
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  Speaker 1: important because my wife decided to buy a stove that
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  Speaker 1: does not have a timer. So when I'm cooking something,
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  Speaker 1: I need to know how long it's in. So I'll
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  Speaker 1: start the stopwatch. So it's a good way to keep
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  Speaker 1: track of stuff. There's a buzzer that'll go off at
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  Speaker 1: a certain point. I also use the stopwatch mostly for
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  Speaker 1: work to time out commercials, the live reads. Now, the
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  Speaker 1: live reads, I have a little leeway. When I have
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  Speaker 1: to record the spots that air, that has to be
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  Speaker 1: exact for the network. It has to be exactly 30 seconds,
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  Speaker 1: exactly 60 seconds.
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  Speaker 3: That's it.
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  Speaker 1: And so I use the stopwatch so I can nail
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  Speaker 1: the post as they hit the post. That's everything I need.
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  Speaker 1: I just need how many steps did I get? What
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  Speaker 1: time is it? And let me time stuff. I also
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  Speaker 1: have it as there's an alarm on there. So when
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  Speaker 1: I wake up, I have my watch on and it
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  Speaker 1: wakes me up. And so that's it. I do not
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  Speaker 1: require Swiss watch. craftsman spending six months assembling microscopic gears
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  Speaker 1: under candlelight.
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  Speaker 3: I don't need that.
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  Speaker 1: I require something that tells me whether I have 38
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  Speaker 1: seconds or 42 seconds before the network rejoins the program.
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  Speaker 1: My watch also occasionally informs me that I haven't moved enough. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, Watch on my wrist there. It actually celebrates
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  Speaker 1: when I stand up. It celebrates when I stand up.
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  Speaker 1: And that is great. So there is an old observation
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  Speaker 1: that watches are one of the few accessories you'll find.
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  Speaker 3: On both a billionaire and a busboy. The difference.
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  Speaker 1: is usually what's on the dial, right? You can have
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  Speaker 1: a Rolex, which is worth $ 700, 000, or you can have
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  Speaker 1: an Apple watch, which is worth $ 250, 000, or an old
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  Speaker 1: Casio watch, which I had when I was a kid.
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  Speaker 1: It reminds me of the Adam Carolla rich man, poor
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  Speaker 1: man bit. Both the very wealthy and the very poor
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  Speaker 1: can have remarkably similar habits, although for entirely different reasons.
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  Speaker 1: The rich man owns six watches because he's wealthy. A
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  Speaker 1: poor man owns six watches because five of them don't work.
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  Speaker 1: Which brings me to my own brief and entirely accidental
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  Speaker 1: adventure into the glamorous world of luxury timepieces. And to
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  Speaker 1: the man I affectionately remember as my watch sugar daddy.
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  Speaker 3: His name? Pat O'Brien.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: That Pat O'Brien. Now, if you're old, you know who
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  Speaker 3: Pat O'Brien is.
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  Speaker 1: The legendary sportscaster who spent 16 years at CBS Sports Network.
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  Speaker 1: In the 80s and the 90s, he covered the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: the World Series, NBA Finals, the Final Fours, the Olympics.
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  Speaker 1: When I was growing up, I spent a lot of
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  Speaker 1: my childhood watching Pat O'Brien, the prudential at the half
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  Speaker 1: during the NBA Finals. And it seemed like the Lakers
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  Speaker 1: and Celtics played all the time. And there was Pat
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  Speaker 1: O'Brien high atop the Boston Garden looking down at the
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  Speaker 1: fabulous forum.
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  Speaker 3: In the hood in Inglewood.
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  Speaker 1: And Pat had... a glamorous network television job, which meant
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  Speaker 1: he wore expensive suits, he stayed in the presidential suite
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  Speaker 1: on the road, first-class travel, nice, fat expense account. I
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  Speaker 1: inhabited overnight talk radio. Now, in broadcasting, television, at least
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  Speaker 1: back in those days, the penthouse, radio, the basement apartment
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  Speaker 1: with a mysterious stain on the ceiling and possibly bedbugs,
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  Speaker 1: So TV people have stylists. Radio people have bedbugs and stains.
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  Speaker 1: TV people have a wardrobe department. Radio people have a
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  Speaker 1: sweatshirt they got free at a minor league baseball game
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  Speaker 1: in 2003 that's got holes on it and is faded.
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  Speaker 1: TV people wear watches worth more than cars and houses.
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  Speaker 1: Radio people drive automobiles worth less than the watch. Now,
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  Speaker 1: when I worked with Pat O'Brien, I actually did some
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  Speaker 1: shows with Pat.
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  Speaker 3: I was a fill-in guy on his show.
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  Speaker 1: We became friendly at Fox Sports Radio in a competitive way.
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  Speaker 1: And I actually knew Pat a little bit when he
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  Speaker 1: was doing the entertainment show because Pat used to go
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  Speaker 1: drink at Dalt's in Burbank, my favorite spot. So I
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  Speaker 1: actually ran into Pat O'Brien drinking wine when he did,
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  Speaker 1: was it, It was one of the entertainment shows. Was
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  Speaker 1: it Extra or Hollywood something? I don't even remember the
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  Speaker 1: name of the show. But anyway, we ended up working
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  Speaker 1: together at Fox Sports Radio. And at one point, he
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  Speaker 1: noticed that I was not exactly presenting myself as a
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  Speaker 1: graduate from the Brooks Brothers Finishing School. I was a
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  Speaker 1: young gas bag, upstart, a little rough around the edges,
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  Speaker 1: wearing whatever clothes were clean enough to pass inspections. And
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  Speaker 1: on my wrist was a watch of questionable origin. And
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  Speaker 1: it didn't have any prestige. And this offended Pat. I
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  Speaker 1: think it offended him.
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  Speaker 3: It told time. That was it. That's all I needed.
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  Speaker 3: Pat was not impressed. He began busting my chops about
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  Speaker 3: the watch. What's with the watch, Ben? I explained that
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  Speaker 3: it was perfect.
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  Speaker 1: Functional.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: He disagreed.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: To Pat, a man's watch was apparently a statement about
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: his place in the food chain. Mine suggested I had
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: recently escaped from some halfway house and I was attempting
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: to reenter society. without proper documentation, and I would likely
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: be eaten by bears. So I reminded Pat O'Brien, I said, Pat, listen,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I did not work in network television for 20 years.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Of course, this became a recurring conversation. Pat would inspect
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: my wrist, my outfit. He would make a disparaging remark.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: and I would then explain the economic realities of my
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: situation compared to his situation. And we went back and forth,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: and we had spent a good amount of time doing this.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: And Pat, of course, had seen everything. He'd been around
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: the world.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I spent my nights discussing whether the Cincinnati Bengals offensive
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: line could protect Joe Burrow, and he was covering the
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Olympics somewhere in Europe. So there's a slight difference in compensation.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: And after.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: After a while, Pat finally reached his breaking point. He
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: announced that he kept saying, well, you got to get
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: a watch.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: You got to get a watch.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: And so I said to Pat, like, hey, you know,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: get me a watch. And he finally said, sure. Not finally.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's the first time I asked him. I said, well,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I don't make that kind of money.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Just give me a watch. I'll wear your stupid watch.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: A proper watch.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: And, you know, fine. He said he would do it.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I said, well, great.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Perhaps he knew somebody who could get me a discounted,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Watch it, Macy's. So Pat told me, he said, listen,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: hold on, Ben.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: I'll be right back.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: He walked out of the studio, headed out to the garage.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: And I was like, all right, whatever.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: A few minutes later, he returned. And this is where
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: it becomes one of the all-time great stories. It takes
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: a dramatic, sharp turn into the theater of the absurd.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: So Pat O'Brien... came back from his car carrying a
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: gallon-sized Ziploc bag. You know those gallon-sized Ziploc bags? Filled
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: with exotic watches. Let me repeat that for those of
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: you in the back. A Ziploc bag. Not a velvet-lined
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: jewelry case, not a leather watch roll, not one of
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: those fancy display boxes, those wooden boxes with the compartments attached.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: a transparent plastic bag, the kind that you might use
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: to store some leftovers, spaghetti and meatballs. And inside were
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: what appeared to be very expensive watches.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: A lot of them.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Watches worth thousands of dollars, some of them probably worth
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: more than the Mallarmobile at the time. So it was
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: like watching a man transport the inventory of of a
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Beverly Hills jewelry store in a bag normally reserved for
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: frozen chicken breasts. So I'm looking at the bag, and
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: then I looked at Pat, and I looked back at
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: the bag, and I'm like, wow, this is a surreal moment.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: This guy that I grew up watching on the halftime
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: show at the NBA Finals who covered the Olympics I
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: would watch with my mom and was at the Super
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Bowl and all these big events, casually carrying around a
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: small fortune in wrist jewelry like he'd just cleaned out
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: his junk drawer. And Pat opens the bag. He looks
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: at me and says, here you go, Ben, pick one.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, excuse me? Pat says, pick one. Like
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I was choosing a doughnut. I went down to Dunkin'
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: to choose a donut. And I was like, all right.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: And there were really good-looking watches, expensive watches, watches with
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: names I could not pronounce, price tags I imagine I
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: couldn't afford. And here's the wonderful detail. Pat said they
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: all just needed batteries. That's it. Pat had, over the years,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: he'd picked over his life, I guess people had given
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: some of these things to him, these watches, and he
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: had bought some. He had accumulated this collection of luxury timepieces,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: and apparently replacing the batteries was, I guess, too much
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: of a hassle. And the watches all appear to be
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: in excellent condition. I'm not a watch guy. They just
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: didn't tell time, which, if you think about it, is
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: a fairly significant flaw in a watch. But if you
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: do a side-by-side comparison financially... The cost of buying a
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: battery for a watch is what? Five bucks, maybe? Depends
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: on the battery. And the cost of buying the watch,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: a lot more than that. So anyway, it's like having
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: a bunch of Ferraris without engines. To a television guy,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: apparently a dead battery is not a problem. It's an
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: opportunity to buy another watch.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: I did think about that.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I was like, Is it possible that Pat got these
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: watches and then once the battery died, rather than just
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: change the battery, he just bought a new watch?
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Anyway, Pat didn't seem too concerned.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: He said, take whichever one you want, which is like
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: the greatest episode of The Price is Right that never
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: got televised back in the day. So I selected one.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I didn't really spend much time examining the watches.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: I probably should have. It wasn't a Rolex.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: It was a beautiful watch worth, I've estimated, a few
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars worth.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: It wasn't worth.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: $ 500, 000. It was a few thousand dollars. At that point
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: in my career, a few thousand dollars was like, wow,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: this is a bonanza.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: That's great. I got to pay my rent.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I might need to go to the doctor.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Who knows?
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: My car might be in the shop. And now I'm
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: sitting down. I got this on my watch, courtesy of
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Pat O'Brien. Man, he's my watch sugar daddy. Yeah.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: The only catch was getting the battery replaced. No problem.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: A reasonable request, although I briefly considered.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Leaving it dead.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: There was something appealing about owning a very expensive watch
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: that didn't work. It's like a flex. Besides, I was
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: working overnight radio. Time was already an abstract concept. When
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: you work overnight, it's like, what is time?
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: What is a day? Does a day start.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: When the sun comes up? Because I go to bed
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: when the sun's coming up, so I don't know. The
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: sun came up.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: I go to bed.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: The sun went down. I get ready for work. I
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: was essentially a vampire. Still am. Vampire with a microphone,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: except I'm the only vampire that likes garlic. So I
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: was like, what do I need this watch for? The
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: experience taught me something about broadcasting. The difference between television
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: and radio, not just the paycheck, it's how casually you
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: treat things that paychecks buy. To me, a watch worth
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: thousands of dollars is a major possession. At that time,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: to P.O.B., it was something rolling around in a plastic
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: bag in his car. I was like, this is a treasure?
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: For him, it was in his junk drawer, it looked like,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: or in the glove compartment of his car. And that
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: is the American class system explained through an accessory you
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: wear on your wrist. Now, I want to emphasize that Pat...
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: was being genuinely generous. What a great act of kindness.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: And he didn't have to give me anything. He could
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: have just continued mocking my Casio watch and my bedraggled outfit,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: which frankly would have been perfectly reasonable. in the radio
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: business where we just bust each other's balls. Instead, he
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: handed me this very valuable thing, and there was no ceremony.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: There was no page six story at the time. That
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: was bigger TMZ.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: No speech, no charitable foundation. Just Pat O'Brien, TV's Pat O'Brien,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: giving a young buck a nice watch because he couldn't
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: stand looking at me wearing a cheap one anymore.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: And so it was.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: What's the phrase here? It was like a.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Backhanded situation where it was an act of kindness, but
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: it was also an insult, which is, I kind of think,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: the ideal combination for a lasting friendship in the.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Broadcasting world, right?
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Now, years later, here we are, and what I remember,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure I've given different versions of this story.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: This is what I remember today of that story, and
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I remember the watch.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: No, I don't.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I remember the bag. Actually, I know where the watch is.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: It's in a secret location. I believe the batteries actually
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: stopped working on it because I don't wear it because
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: it's worth too much money and I have my Apple Watch.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: The thing I remember about that is the bag. There
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: was something just so ridiculous and great about a man
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: who made that kind of money, worked at the highest
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: levels of entertainment in America, using a kitchen storage.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Bag for food and to put his watches in.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Imagine spending hundreds of hours crafting an exquisite timepiece, only
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: to discover that your masterpiece is riding around in a
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: high-end car in Los Angeles on the 405 in a
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: plastic bag alongside five, six, seven, eight, other watches, all
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: with dead batteries. Somewhere in Switzerland, a master watchmaker, I'm
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: sure has had some chest pains thinking about that, which
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: brings us full circle, close the circle, back to Tom Brady.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: I don't, again, begrudge Brady for his collection. Good for him.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Wear what you want.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I do wonder what Pat O'Brien would think of Tom
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Brady's weekly wrist exhibition. Something tells me that Pat would
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: be into it. He understood expensive watches. He was a
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: watch guy. He owned a lot of them. He just
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: didn't seem particularly interested in treating them as sacred objects.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: And to Brady, a luxury watch is a carefully curated
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: fashion statement, something to be photographed and shared on social media.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: To Pat, at that time, it was something that you
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: could toss in a Ziploc bag and give away to
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: a radio loser in between segments. Yeah, there you go.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: So a watch, something that tells me when the commercial
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: break is over, when the read is done. So we
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: all have different perspectives. Now, these days, my $ 250 Apple
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Watch does.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Everything I need.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: As I said, it counts my steps. It times my commercials,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: occasionally reminds me to get off my backside. And if
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I lose it, I don't have to refinance my house
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: or take out a loan. Brady has millions of dollars
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: in watches. And I have a story about a legendary
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: sportscaster who once handed me a few thousand dollars worth
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: of jewelry out of a plastic bag. How many people
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: can say, That happened. That's like I had an episode
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: of The Sopranos back in the day. And I'd much
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: rather be in my situation. Well, financially, I would rather
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: be in Tom Brady's situation, but I'm sentimental. I'm not stupid,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: at least not that stupid. And the difference, Brady wears
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: a $ 600, 000 watch, so people will notice the watch. Pat
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: O'Brien gave me a watch worth thousands because he noticed
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: my watch worth So one man used a watch to
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: show off his wealth. The other used a watch to
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: share a little of his. And so Pat didn't need
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: a velvet box, a security guard, a Swiss watchmaker to
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: make the moment memorable. He just needed a gallon-sized Ziploc bag,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: the same thing that the rest of us use to
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: store that leftover meatloaf. I can't eat that much meatloaf.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: And again, I go back, that is television money. Now,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I only worked in TV for, I've done three years
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: in television. I did a TV show, Benny vs. the Penny,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: for a couple years. And then I had a different gig,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: which I was a contributor to NBC. But I was
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: just a part-time player. Like, the TV show was a
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: seasonal TV show. I didn't make the big TV money.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I made, compared to radio, I made good money. But
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: it wasn't like big-time TV money. I got into TV
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: after the TV money had gone away.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Just my luck, right? Who goofed? I've got to know.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Anyway, I didn't make the TV, big TV money for
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: a long time like these guys did.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: And so I have a.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Watch I had. I don't have any more. I'm not,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: you know, real tight with Pat anymore, but watch Sugar Daddy.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: So Tom Brady may have a better watch collection, but
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Pat O'Brien had the better delivery system. So there is
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: All right, it is the Ben Maller podcast, the fifth
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: hour podcast as we are hanging out here side by side.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: We have the mailbag tomorrow. We were going to do
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: some foodie fun. I can do rapid fire foodie fun.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: These are actual food stories that I found interesting. Jack
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: in the Box is bringing back the bonus jack, a
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: fan favorite. Participating locations, it actually started yesterday. Back on Thursday.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: So if you're a fan of the bonus jack, congratulations.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: That includes seasoned 100% beef patties, as opposed to 80%
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: beef patties, topped with American cheese, shredded lettuce, pickles, and
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: secret sauce, all served on a soft, buttery bakery bun. Okay.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Okay. retail options.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: You have the single, double, triple, single $ 399, double $ 549,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: and the triple $ 7 for the triple. So enjoy that.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Popeye's launching the new 6 for $ 10 deal. Popeye's offering
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: enough food to feed two to three people at a
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: value price point. And again, 6 for $ 10.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: They're offering.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: A Fansville game pack, which is essentially the same deal
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: as well. Part of the deal that we mentioned, six
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: pieces for $ 10. You get the chicken, the Popeye's signature chicken,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: marinated in their proprietary blend of Louisiana seasonings and fried
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: until crispy and golden brown for a suggested price of $ 10.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: They also have the Fansville game pack, six pieces of chicken,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: six tenders. Half and half combination of three pieces of each,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: two regular sides, two regular drinks, and the limited edition
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: cup and dipping sauces.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: So you can get that at Popeye's.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Carl's Jr., west of the Mississippi, has introduced the new
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Angus Steakhouse Burger at participating locations. That started this week.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Sounds like they've had that before. KFC launches the Avengers...
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Avengers Doomsday-inspired menu featuring the new Doom Burger with a
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: black sesame seed bun, Doom drip wings, and more.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: It's all part of a celebration.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: It's called marketing for an upcoming global release of the
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: new Avengers Doomsday film coming December 18th. So KFC doing
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: a brand partnership with Marvel Studios. to launch the Doom
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: food line, the Doomsday-inspired menu.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: What else?
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Popeye's also added the Cajun onion rings to its menu,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: which I believe are just onion rings with Cajun seasoning.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: And Little Caesars introducing the new cheesy garlic pepperoni pizza,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: if that is your jam. And one final foodie story
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: that I wanted to mention, because I used to eat
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: here a lot when I was a kid, Wendy's.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Which is not doing very well.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: The people at Wendy's not exactly dominating the food game there.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Wendy's turned down a takeover offer from this billionaire guy,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Nelson Peltz, of $ 1.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: 4 billion.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: They rejected that. He offered $ 7. 35 per share, which is
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: actually 20% above Wendy's stock price. And they said, no,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Wendy's adopting a shareholder rights plan.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: I read about this this week. The shareholder rights.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Plan designed to discourage a hostile takeover by making it
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: more expensive to acquire control of the company. And I
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: feel bad. Wendy's is not doing well. The people aren't
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: going there. The price of food's gone up. The restaurants,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: they haven't kept them up to date. A lot of
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: the restaurants are getting older. There's a lot of competition.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: And Wendy's has closed, I believe it's over 600. By
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: the end of this year, it'll be 600 locations. That's
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: a lot. That seems like a fair amount.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: And yet they.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Still rejected this $ 1. 4 billion takeover thing. They said the
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: offer was too low. They got the corporate poison pill.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: This guy that made the offer already controls 16% of,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: The Burger Company, which I consider, I've never really had,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: I've had like two Wendy's burgers in my life. I
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: love the chicken at Wendy's. Now, they're claiming the people
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: that run Wendy's, they will turn things around. Meanwhile, the
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: shareholders are stuck watching a corporate food fight over the
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: square hamburgers, chicken sandwiches, and really bad profits. shrinking profits.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: On that note, have a great rest of your Saturday.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Enjoy the college football today. We'll have the mailbag for
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: you tomorrow. Tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow. Can't wait for that. Well,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: I can't wait for that. I do not know who's
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: going to be on the mailbag. I will let you
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: know who will be on the mailbag when I know,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: which will be tomorrow, last minute. I'll be calling people,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: seeing who actually answers the phone tomorrow. That's the normal
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: protocol here on the mailbag.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Will it be Robbie the Mariner fan?
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: He's on my big board.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: I got a bunch of people ahead of Robbie, though,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: that I need to contact, so we'll see. Should I
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: do a three-man booth?
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: I could do that.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Could we put a woman on the mailbag?
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Name a woman. No women have asked to be on
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: the mailbag, so I can't put a woman on it.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: They have to ask. I'm not going to just go
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: around begging women to be on the mailbag. We had
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Bree on the mailbag. But then she bailed on the podcast,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: so we've had no women since then. Anyway, have a
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: great rest of your Saturday, and we will catch you
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: next time.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Bye-bye! Bye-bye!