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Dirty Work (The One Where Norm Macdonald Calls the Real Cops) · The Worst Movie Podcast

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_02: Hello and welcome to the worst movie podcast.
• 0:02
  SPEAKER_02: I'm Ade.
• 0:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm Aaron, and this is a podcast where we watch the worst movies ever made in the hopes of finding a hidden gem.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_02: Note to self.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_02: Watch fewer bad movies.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_02: Enjoy.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_02: Happy to be here.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_02: It was pointed out to me that I never really introduced you, and I don't know how you want to be introduced, but Andrew and I are longtime friends.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_02: We've known e known each other for over 10 years now.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_02: Does that sound right?
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_03: That does sound right.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_03: Right in 10 years, I think.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_03: Might be our anniversary a day.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_02: Happy anniversary.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_02: Andrew is uh uh multi-hyphenite.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know how do you want to be described.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_02: Uh tech product guy, comedian, ex-magician.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_02: Once a magician, always a magician.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_02: So that's right.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_02: Never really leaves you.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_02: Well, what have you been watching lately, Andrew?
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_03: Just saw in theaters last night the Spider-Man uh what is it?
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_03: Brand New Day.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_03: Brand New Day.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_03: Brand New Day.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_03: I thought it was good.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_03: I really enjoyed it.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_03: I like the Spider-Man.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_03: I think the Spider-Man series is probably like the best that they've got going for them uh in the Marvel world.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_03: And Brand New Day uh reminded me a little bit of Winter Soldier.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_03: Like smaller, a little more character-driven.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_03: Winter Soldier.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_03: Have you two seen it?
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_01: I haven't seen the new Spider-Man, but Winter Soldier was definitely one of my favorite of the Marvels.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I saw it.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I enjoyed it.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_02: I think I gave it three and a half stars where it was like this was solid, it was good, I would recommend it to anybody, but it wasn't mind-blowing or it didn't it didn't move me.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_02: But I really enjoyed the villain.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_02: I also liked that it wasn't so expansive in sense of the Marvel universe stuff, and I had to have seen all the MCU movies or remember them.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_02: Uh like this could be the first Marvel movie you see and still enjoy it.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you'd be fine, I think.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_03: I I was the same way.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_03: I th I think it'll probably fall three and a half.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_03: I sort of wanted to give it like 3.75.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_03: I enjoyed it quite a bit.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_03: Uh but four felt like a stretch.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_03: Four felt like it was too much.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_00: Is it the best of the uh the three that he's done?
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_00: You could make that argument, I think.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_02: I'm really not the right person to ask because I can't remember.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_02: Like I I think I've seen the other three.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_02: I would be surprised if I haven't seen the other three, but I couldn't tell you the difference between any of them or what wait, this is his fourth?
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_01: Is this his fourth?
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's like his seventh appearance or something like that.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_03: Um I thought there were only three, also, Aaron.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_03: I thought this was the third.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_03: But I think that's not right because this is the first of a new trilogy, supposedly.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_01: So the third one of the first trilogy was the one with the other Spider-Mans, right?
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_01: That sounds right.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_03: This is the problem with the Marvel Universe we know.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_01: There's too much, it's oversaturated.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_02: He's just he's he's really good in it, though.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_02: He's on the watch, and I think that's yeah, props to him, I think.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_02: In terms of making that uh would you say how would you rank him versus the other Spider-Mans?
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_02: Better.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_02: Best?
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_01: I think so.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_01: Like I have nostalgia for Toby.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_01: Like he was like a Spider-Man when I was a kid, so I like those movies a lot, but I just think he's perfect as Spider-Man uh Tom Holland is.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_01: Like he's he's got the athleticism and the acting chops and the charm, and he's like perfect.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_03: Agreed.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm a big Andrew Garfield fan, but I didn't do much for me as Spider-Man, to be honest.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_01: I think he just didn't have like the movies just weren't as good.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_01: He was a great Spider-Man.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_01: I think he could have done fine, but the the scripts were just kind of lame.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_01: That's fair.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_01: What have you been watching, Aaron?
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_01: Uh not really much, uh, but I did watch for the first time the original Cape Fear movie this week.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_01: Uh really?
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_01: What what prompted you to do that?
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I love the 90s Cape Fear, the one with um Nick Melty.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, the original meeting, the one from the was it 60s or 70s?
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_01: And I I love the original, and I saw that they have like a new TV show out on Prime for it with Amy Adams, and I kind of want to watch it, but I I realized I've never seen the original before, so I I watched it and it it's great.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it seems way ahead of its time.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_01: Have have either of you seen it?
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_01: No, have not.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I mean, it deals with some pretty progressive uh I'm assuming for the time concepts of like um, you know, women who get sexually assaulted and don't report it, and like the kind of the fear that they live in and and how they can be kind of threatened into silence and stuff.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_01: It was it was great.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_02: I just lit up because this week I watched the 90s Cape Fear for the first time.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_02: I realized I'd never seen it.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_02: And what so it's so weird.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_02: That that's why I was like, why why did you watch it this week?
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_02: Because I just kind of random, it's been on my list for a long time, and I was like, oh let me just give it a shot now.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, you guys both have Halloween decorations out already, or you think people?
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_04: No, he has decorations from last year still out.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_01: I am eyeing the candy aisle already, though.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_01: So gotta stock up early.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_01: Uh what did you think of the 90s one?
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I thought it was good.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_02: I first of all, I I don't know why I never watched it.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_02: Like I kind of remember it being out, but it was one of those things where I just kind of missed it.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe I was too uh young to really be interested in it, and then just never hit that window.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_02: Um I thought De Niro's performance was great.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, he really goes for it.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_02: And uh I think I forget that De Niro's a good actor because just like everything in the last 20 years, it's kind of paycheck movies almost.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, not I know that's whatever really condescending and shitty to say, but that that's that's kinda what I think De Niro now, I kind of think of more recent De Niro than I do him from 40 years ago.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_02: And then you know, so the iconic movies that I've seen a lot, like Heat or Um Godfather 2, or you know, like self- it's it's kind of he's the same person in a way.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_02: And so anyway, it was just it was a very different De Niro performance than I'm used to, and uh it was really refreshing to see that.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_01: He's just like pure evil in in Cape Fear instead of like the mafia Right.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_01: Casino boss type.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, slick, yeah, yeah, casino.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_01: Another one, yeah.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_01: Ronan's yeah, the scene where the fireworks are going off and they're in their bedroom looking out, and they think he's uh in their yard, or that scene just sticks with me for some reason.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just like the lighting and everything else is just so great.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_02: That scene is apparently a uh Brian De Palma uh nod to a scene from Blowout with uh John Travolta.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_02: Oh no.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I watched that movie I don't know, sometime in the last six months to a year.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_02: Uh kind of interesting movie, but yeah, I I listened to some podcasts about the 90s Cape Fear movie afterwards, just to try to understand a little bit more context.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_02: And apparently it's just filled with like nods to Hitchcock movies and all sorts of you know, references and stuff like that.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_02: It was a it was an interesting watch.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_02: I I hear the TV show sucks, though.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_02: Oh dang.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_02: But I'll skip it, maybe do your own research, I guess.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_02: That's just funny.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I haven't really delved into it.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_02: I also watched a few episodes of hacks, Andrew.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_02: So um got back on it.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_02: It was funny, so yeah, I think we'll we'll keep we'll keep going.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_02: Apparently we stopped right in the middle of an episode.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_02: It was that it was that bad.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, I don't know that it I it wasn't a bad episode, so I don't I don't I don't remember it, but I imagine we just got interrupted or something and never went back.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_02: But um yeah, it was kind of funny because I went to the queue and I was like, oh, we'll just keep watching.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_02: And we were like, we don't remember anything about this episode, we have to start with so but yeah, it was fun.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_02: So thanks for thanks for pushing me in that direction.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_03: I'm glad.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_03: I think you'll be happy.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_03: Especially I think the end is really good, really interesting and really good.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think I asked when we were talking about it, but Aaron, have you seen hacks?
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_02: What's it about again?
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_02: I'll let Andrew cover it since Oh, sure.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_03: It's a kind of past her prime comedian in the style of maybe like a Joan Rivers type comedian that's been working Vegas for a long time that is losing audience, and so her people hire a millennial comedian to punch up her work and help her out, and then they form a friendship and slash frenemieship.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_03: They're yeah, depending on when you watch, uh, they're either best friends or worst enemies.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_03: But it just follows that working in Vegas, and then some other things happen from there.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_03: But it's great, very, very funny and fresh.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_03: Nice.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_03: Who's in it?
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_03: Great supporting cast.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Gene Smart and Hannah Einbinder are the two leads, and then you've got a really good supporting cast who I probably couldn't name the actors actors' names off the top of my head.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like that's what makes a great supporting cast.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_01: That's why Carrot Top is in it.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_01: Carrot Top.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_03: I forgot that.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_03: He's only in like 50% of the episodes, so yeah.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_01: He only executive produced the whole thing.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I've actually heard that uh he's put together like a respectable career.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_01: I rem I remember he was like the he was all over the place in the like late 90s, early 2000s, and was kind of a everybody mocked him, but he's still at it.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like I he's still doing it.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_02: I have this weird thing where yeah, I he was made fun of or out of in my mind, he was kind of a heck of yeah.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_02: But I feel like in the last few years I've been like, I should really go see Carrot Top because if he's still selling tickets, like he's gotta be doing something alright.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_02: Have you seen him before, Andrew?
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_03: No, I'm not gonna convince you.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_03: I've never been tempted.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_03: You go and tell me how it is, and then maybe I'll go.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_03: He's a prop comic, right?
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_03: He does some prop stuff.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_01: Is that looked down upon in the pro in the comic community?
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_02: Historically, yes.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_02: As a comedian, Andrew, how do you feel about props?
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I kind of do like is PowerPoint presentations with comedy.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's really fun when people do, yeah.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_03: Dimitri Martin does that.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_03: And I've seen it, yes, Marty Pants is great.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_03: I really enjoy that, but I've seen it more and more.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_03: I saw that actually locally at the White Rabbit.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_03: Somebody did a PowerPoint presentation with their thing.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_03: And it sometimes it just really puts a nice button on a joke that's a whole lot of fun.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_03: As long as they aren't leaning on it too hard, I like it quite a bit.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_03: It's funny that you did you bring up Carrot Top on purpose for this episode because I think part of why Carrot Top was so made fun of was Norm's infamous Conan performance.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, really?
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_03: I like roasted Norm roasted Carrot Top.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Carrot Top wasn't there, but his co-star from chairman of the board was there, and he just took the movie apart.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_02: His co-star did or Norm did?
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_03: Norm did.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_02: Norm did.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_02: That's so funny.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_02: I no, I I didn't know that or completely forgot about that.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_02: I'll have to look that up.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_03: I know.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_03: I remember Conan asked the woman co-star what what the movie was called, and he said box office poison.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_02: That's normal.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_02: That's funny.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I'll buy us tickets to go see Carrotop someday, Andrew.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_02: See if I'll drink.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, you can buy me one.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_03: It's not money that's keeping me away.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_03: I'll say that.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_03: I'll get you drunk enough one day.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_03: It's got to be that combination.
• 14:40
  unknown: Yeah.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_02: We've already kind of segued, but I will say there is one other uh I can name one other secondary actor from Hacks, uh, Christopher McDonald, who plays the villain in Dirty Works.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, perfect.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_02: Double segue.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_01: I love him.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_01: He is like the sh the smarmy comic villain of my childhood.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_02: How do you think a guy like that navigates the real world?
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_02: Because I feel like everyone who probably interacts with him, like his neighbors, are like, yeah, they know he's an actor, but there've got to be like subconscious things we do where it's like, you know, it's like when you wake up from a uh in the morning and you're like, I think I'm mad at my partner, but I don't know why.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like because it you had some dream that you realized later.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_02: Like he's probably like running into people at the grocery store.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_02: People are like, I don't know who you are.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_02: Like they don't recognize him, but they'll feel like he's an asshole or something.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_02: His neighbors are like, I eat pieces of shit like him for breakfast.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_03: Um Yeah, I think it'd be hard.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_03: I think it'd be hard to break out of it too.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_03: Even in hacks, he's not a hundred percent a good guy.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_03: They definitely give him more, you know, he's not one-dimensional like he is in like the Sandler movies and this, but right.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he's too good at being kind of a slime ball.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_02: We're already on it, but we're covering Dirty Work from 1998, uh, starring Norm McDonald, directed by Bob Sagitt, his directorial debut.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and uh co-starring Artie Lang, and then really just a ton of people that Chevy Chase, Don Rickles, uh a lot of cameos, Chris and Tunis.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Chris Farley.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_02: Chris Farley's last movie, unfortunately, before he passed.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_02: Um 20% on Rotten Tomatoes, had a budget of 13 million and made 10 million at the box office.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so uh not successful.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_02: Nope.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_02: Uh a lot of background on this movie.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I'll cover a few things, but I'm guessing you guys dug into the background as well, too.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_02: A little bit.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_02: Uh one of the big things on this was that MGM force it down to a PG 13 rating is originally R-rated.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, and so they had to cut a lot of the crude stuff.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and they I guess they fought the studio on it, but ultimately lost.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_02: Did you happen to uncover any of the cut footage?
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't see the footage.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_02: No, I didn't either.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_01: I'd read about some of it, but um I didn't know they filmed it and then they had to cut it back for the studio?
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_03: Oh.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_03: They didn't film everything.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_03: There is some there is some footage that's still around.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_03: I saw it actually in college.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_03: Uh.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_03: And so they a production company released, like, cut together and released this this like dirtier cut of the movie.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_03: And it's not that it's not that good.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_03: I actually think it's worse.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_03: Uh if it had been an R-rated movie for the whole time, which is what they wanted it to be, like if they had filmed everything, it may have made more sense.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_03: But to me, it it was not.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Donuts on Penises, is that funny?
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't seem all that funny to me.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_03: And then a lot of the jokes were just harder and dirtier.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_03: And some of the things I think because they couldn't say or do certain things, it was funnier that they implied it or that they had to use different language versus just being dirty.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_02: There are a couple scenes where Artie Lang's dad is watching women do like jazz or size or whatever.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_01: And I think watching aerobics.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, three inches from the screen, his face is like at the TV screen.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_02: And in the script, he he's just watching porn straight up.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_01: And uh and so it's funnier to have him watching the aerobics.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_02: I mean some of the jokes in the original script were a little bit funny, but yeah, I I agree.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_02: It probably is funnier that yeah, he's just while watching aerobics.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_01: I like that while he was watching that, he was reading a magazine called Impotent Old Men and Whores.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_02: Back in the golden aid of age of magazines where you think the circulation on that magazine was.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_01: I bet they have a small but devoted following.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_02: I bet it's not as small as you would think.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um anyone want to cover the Norm McDonald background, like on SNL?
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he was he was fired from weekend update because of all of the OJ jokes that he was making.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_01: And it it pissed off some executive at NBC, Don Olmeyer, yeah.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, who who got him fired and would not promote this movie on NBC uh at all while it was coming out.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um I guess they I guess they relented after the movie came out, but I like why it was already doing badly.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and then I guess Don got forced into retirement for his little feud with with Norm.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_02: It sounds like he also tried to get Conan to stop booking him on the show, too.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um, which didn't didn't work, obviously, but yeah.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_03: Just running around town anti-Norm stance like crazy.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_03: It was wild.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_03: Uh the back then, the network that the actor is known for not promoting the movie had to be like basically a death sentence.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_03: I can't imagine.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's how you found out about movies was watching network television at the right times, right?
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_03: Uh and so that must have been a huge part of why it didn't do well.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, not marketed at all to the SNL audience, which is right how everybody knew Norm at the time anyway.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_02: So um sounds like Norm really saved Artie Lang's career by putting him in this.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we don't think have to go through the whole Artie Lang biography, but this came out in '98, and he was on Mad TV uh that that was what he was known for before this, but that ended in '96 because his agent in the show's cast uh showed up in an attempt to do an intervention on set at Mad TV.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_02: Did you read about this?
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_02: An intervention for Artie.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, for Artie.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_02: Um it it started when Lang lost.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: 15 grand on betting on the Tyson Hollifield boxing match.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_02: And he turned up to rehearsals all coked up after he lost the bet.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_02: And they tried to attempt an intervention.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_02: He fled the set running through the streets with his coworkers chasing him.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_02: And it ended in the parking lot of a supermarket where he was arrested and sent to LA County jail.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_02: Uh and then basically it didn't work for a while.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_02: I think he was in rehab, maybe, but Norm was having trouble casting the that role and thought of Artie for for some reason.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_02: And basically between Norm and Bob Sagitt, they rejuvenated his career.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_02: So kind of cool.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_03: I think Artie's pretty good in this, too.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_03: There's not a ton that's asked of him, but you like him quite a bit.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_03: Better than Norm.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_01: Is Norm an actor, do you think?
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_01: Or is he just No.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_01: That's one of my notes.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_02: He's like he has the same case delivery.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_02: He's like shouting his lines, or it's just monotone.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_02: But that's that's part of I think his his persona in his comedy.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_02: And so it kind of works, but I don't think there was a path where Norm was gonna show up in some like dramatic movie and you know, w win best supporting actor or something like that.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe he wasn't gonna do eternal sunshine of the spotless mind and yeah, wow us all.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no punch drunk love.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_02: Not for Norm, no.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, or uncut gems.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it reminded me in this movie in particular.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it is Norm's Delivery, but it reminded me almost of a play.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_03: Like they were putting on a school play or something like that.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_03: Obviously, a little dirtier than most school plays tend to be.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_03: But just everybody's just kind of walking around and saying their lines and saying obvious stuff.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_03: It yeah.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: That's part of the charm for me.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like a bit of an amateur feel to it.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_02: Well, thirty thirteen million dollar budget.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I I don't it was it was the 90s, but I think that was still a little slim back then.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I was thinking when I was watching it, I was like, the probably the most expensive part of this movie was the giant tarp that they used to uh throw over the building.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_02: Uh what's your relationship to this movie?
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_02: Is it like Roxberry, Andrew, where it was your favorite movie for a while?
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_02: Or I've seen you both have seen it before.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_03: It was uh not like Roxberry because Roxberry had a very quick high peak where I was kind of obsessed with it.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Dirty Work I've always liked.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_03: My my best friend's younger brother had this, would just re-watch movies all the time.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_03: And he probably had Dirty Work playing 50% of the time that I would go over to their house.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_03: Dirty Work was on.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_03: And so I've seen it a lot.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_03: I basically knew what they were gonna say the whole time, just from memory.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_03: I hadn't seen it since college when I watched those like the R-rated clips or whatever.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_03: But I I was really happy to watch it again, and I I was like, man, yeah, I remember all of this stuff.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_03: What about you?
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I had seen it before, but I saw it when I was younger, and I didn't really get Norm's sense of humor at the time.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't hate it, but I didn't love it either.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_01: I liked it a lot more on the second viewing.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_01: Again, it's not probably my favorite comedy, but I liked it.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_01: I had a lot more laugh out loud moments in this than I did like Joe Dirt or Roxbury.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_02: I forgot to say it's written by the same or co-written by the same guy that co-wrote Joe Dirt.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_01: I laughed out loud in the first five seconds of this movie.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I had a note that said I knew we were in for a treat when in the first 90 seconds it was references to school shootings, pedophiles, revenge porn.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, this is this is gonna be something.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know what this movie's gonna be, but it'll be something.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_03: So the kid actor that says, uh, I'm just not sure you'll spend it on milk.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: He was great.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: I was he was I was gonna say that he I he was one of the better actors in the movie, and he was only in it for like two minutes.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: But I like him.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I would have told you a week ago that I had 100% seen this movie before, but I don't know that I have because I couldn't, I didn't nothing seemed familiar to me.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_02: I and halfway through I was like, I thought they were garbage men in this movie.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_02: And I think I confused it in some way with Men at Work with Char Charlie Sheen and Emilio Astodes, which is a very different movie, and I wasn't picturing that movie either.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't know what I would because Norm McDonald isn't in Men at Work, and I knew he was in this one, but I don't know.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_02: Somehow I think that just all got stirred around in my head.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_03: And yeah.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_03: Some blockbuster fever dream that you had where Yeah, exactly.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't know why I wouldn't have seen this because this was I I would have been in college when this came out, and yeah, if it showed up on the blockbuster shelves, then I would have snatched this up because I I feel like Norm was probably one of my favorite um people on SNL.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think Norm was a little bit ahead of my time.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_01: Like I was too young for Norm at the time.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_01: I was 10 or 11 when this came out, and I was definitely more of a Chris Farley fan at the time than which I think is he's his comedy is way more accessible for little kids than all the whore and rape jokes in this one.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_02: But very dry whore and rape jokes.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_01: Also, I have a bone to pick with Amazon.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_01: Did you guys watch this on Prime?
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_01: I did.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_01: Are you old like me and you you have the DVD, don't you?
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I watched it on Prime and I'm an old man, so I had the the closed captions on, and they're editing, they're like censoring the captions.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_01: Like they won't really write whore in the yeah.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_01: What did they write?
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_01: Like girl.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, I thought he was I thought this was a whore house, and in the captions, it'll say, I thought this was a girl house or something like that, or they'll just leave it out.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_01: And uh they did it for a lot of of the jokes in this movie, and I was like, don't fucking do that.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_01: I don't need that, Amazon.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_02: Huh.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_02: I wonder if that's a setting job.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's hard to explain Norm's humor, and it's hard to say the jokes out of context without it sounding really bad.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_02: But it's just I just liked one of the scenes, he just says, Okay, settle down, prostitutes.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_02: And I was just like, that's hilarious.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know how to explain that joke or like make it sound funny to somebody who hasn't seen it, but uh it's just full of like chuckles like that that I don't know, nobody could deliver like norm.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_01: Telling norm jokes when you're not norm is like quoting rap lyrics as a white guy.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure I can say all of it.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_03: It's this movie is incredibly quotable.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_03: Uh part of my a big part of my notes is just writing down the quotes that I liked a lot and that I used to say with my friends over and over all the time.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_03: I I do think that his he makes you laugh at things that are not funny.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_03: And it's it's almost like a bullying way.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_03: Like he will push you to laugh at stuff that is so nothing.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_03: Some of his jokes are, you know, his like anti-jokes and things like that.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_03: It it's incredible.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_01: He makes you uncomfortable and then he just leaves you there.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_01: Like he doesn't give you the payoff that you're expecting, like the release, and you just have to like laugh to be comfortable again.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's very good.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_03: Do you guys want uh two truths and a lie before we do the synopsis?
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_03: Sure.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_03: That's real this time.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_03: There is a there is a two truths and a lie.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_02: That's the lie.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_03: That's right.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he found it.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_03: Uh two truths and a lie.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Kevin Hart called Dirty Work one of his favorite movies of all time.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_03: Uh during the feud with Don Allmyre, Norm took out a full page ad in Variety magazine mocking him by name.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_03: And the role of Satan in the movie was supposed to be played by Howard Stern, but Adam Sandler got the part when he turned it down.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_02: I know which one is a lie.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_01: The variety ad.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_01: Uh why would Kevin Hart say that this is one of his favorite movies of all time?
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_01: That's a lie.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_01: Like he's lying, right?
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_01: No, that was well, I know that Kevin Hart actually said that.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're saying he's lying?
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_01: I'm saying Kevin Hart is lying.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_02: He was being interviewed by Bob Sagitt, I think, when he said that.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_02: Or maybe the other way around.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, maybe.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, because yeah, I forgot to mention this, but apparently Bob hinted that they were working on a sequel, which it seemed like kind of one of those you just say it on a podcast, but you know, it's not not necessarily like it's in development, but I feel like they say that to will it into existence.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was kind of a rumor for a while, and yeah, he said I think it was a year or so before he died, and he asked if Kevin would be in it, and so and Kevin was like, yeah, for sure.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_01: By the way, this episode is releasing one day after the five-year anniversary of Norm's death.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_01: September 14th.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_01: Uh that's not true because uh we've got Joe Dirk first one week and one day.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_01: If I edit on time.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_03: The point is, we are doing this in honor of Norm.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_02: You want to give a synopsis?
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_01: Uh sure.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Norm McDonald plays Mitch and Artie Lang plays Sam, their best friends, childhood friends.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and it's a a pretty simple plot.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_01: Sam's dad needs a new heart.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_01: They need$50,000 to pay off Chevy Chase, who's the doctor, so he can get a heart.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and so they open a revenge for hire business to raise money uh to save Sam's dad, who is also Mitch's dad.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_01: They're half-brothers, they find out in the movie.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_01: So uh yeah, pretty simple plot, pretty um common plot, I feel like, the like raise money to save dad uh plot in the 90s.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_01: I mean it's the same plot as uh Happy Gilmore.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_01: You kind of raise money to uh save grandma's house.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_02: I think we all enjoyed the movie, but can we just say the the plot kind of sucked?
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_02: The whole thing is hinging on Chevy Chase's character, who's a degenerate gambler, basically relying on these two almost random guys to to keep him from getting killed by getting 50 grand.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_02: And like if they don't come through, he's just he's not working on anything else.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_02: He's dead and he's he's being killed.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_02: And also he's there only get a heart.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_02: Well, he said he was gonna put him at the top of the list, but I don't think the doctor can do that though.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_02: I I don't I think you're right.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_03: I think they're probably the heart doctor is just like, well, sure, anybody you want.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um maybe he means if you pay off my gambling, that I'll go out and physically get you a heart.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_02: That would have been a better movie.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_02: Did you like Chevy Chase?
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, he wasn't bad.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, he he didn't really have a lot to he was mostly there to move the plot along, I guess.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_02: Um I feel like there was something that was a little bit funny that he said.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_02: Um maybe it was about gambling on uh Rocky III or something.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_02: Hindsight's 2020.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_02: He he bet on Rocky to lose.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_02: I mean he wasn't bad in it, but it also wasn't like, oh yeah, Chevy Chase, that he was he was hilarious in this.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I think it was it was a part a lot of people could have slotted in, but maybe that's just my anti-Chevy Chase bias.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_02: What do you think?
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_01: I liked him.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_01: I love Chevy Chase.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think he's a shitty human being from everything I've heard, but but I love his movies.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I thought he was perfect in this.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_01: One way every line he says is funny to me.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, agreed.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_01: I thought so too.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_01: I love how uh every time you see him, he's a little bit more injured than the last time you see him.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_03: Talking about how when you owe the bookies money and they shoot one of your toes off, somehow you still owe them the money.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_03: That doesn't seem fair.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_02: That was funny, yeah.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_01: I agree.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_01: I I do feel like the one role that couldn't have been recast with anyone else was Chris Farley's role.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_01: He was great.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_01: I laughed every time I saw Chris Farley.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_01: He played a guy who had his nose half bitten off by a Vietnamese prostitute.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_01: Saigon, I think.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_01: Saigon whore.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_01: We can just call it the movie.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_01: Saigon whore.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_01: Or that Saigon girl.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, my favorite scene was when he was Norm was looking for a place to stay, and Chris was talking about staying at the Y and his roommate and his feet bleed.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_02: His feet bleed.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to stay with you.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I thought the scene where he was like getting the uh skunks all ready to go for the uh he was releasing skunks into a theater, and he was like, he was getting them gassed up before they went out, and it was like it was a tour de force by uh Chris Farley.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_03: His excitement to play Street Fighting Man by the Rolling Stones on the jukebox during the fight, uh, but he hits the wrong thing and plays uh Escape the Pina Colada song instead.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, one of my so Norm does his note to self thing throughout, and one of my favorite things was after that scene when he said, note to self, learn to fight.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_01: I wrote that down.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_01: Uh that that was a funny recurring gag, the recurring gag of him getting physically thrown out of every place.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_02: He gets fired and thrown out on the street.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_02: Have you guys ever witnessed anybody being thrown out like that?
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_02: Do you think do you think that's a good thing?
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_02: Like physically thrown?
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_03: Can't say that I have.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_02: Another trope I was curious about is Norm pretty early on, his girlfriend breaks up with him and throws all the stuff out the window.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_02: Uh that's something that seems to happen a lot in movies, but I've never seen in real life.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_02: Have you guys seen that?
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_03: Can't say that I have.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_02: That seems especially.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_03: How did it end up how does it end up being a thing that everybody puts in a movie?
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's that's what I'm wondering.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_02: Like, it had to have happened somewhere, right?
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_02: Or to someone.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe it's just so cinematic to show people breaking up that way that you just choose to keep adding that to movies.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_03: And throwing things one at a time.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_03: That's a that's quite a chore.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_01: Seems like more work than uh you're right.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's a lot of walking back and forth to the window, it seems like.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_01: Make sure.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_02: I'm pretty sure your landlord or somebody will uh you'll get in big trouble, like just littering.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_01: I like the landlord in this movie who said if you uh don't pay or whatever, I get to punch you in the stomach.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's usually what happens with landlords.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_02: I did I did question his decision to open a business and then instantly get office space.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_03: Why do they need an office for this?
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_02: No, maybe that's more of a you know, 90s like pre-internet thing where you're like, I have a business, I need an office.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_02: Pre-Zoom era, but yeah, it didn't seem like anybody was really.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_02: I guess their first um the circus guy came in to the office.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, just walking.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like a 40-year-old Virgin made fun of that trope uh with the um love interest who had the eBay store, but she had like a physical store, and he and Jonah Hill walked in and wanted to buy the boots with the goldfish in them.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_01: Remember that?
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_01: And and he was like, I just want to buy the boots.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_01: She's like, Well, you can't buy them here.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_01: And he's like, Well, why do you have a store?
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_01: Like, can I just give you money for these?
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, I feel like they did a good job of making fun of that trope.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_03: I maybe the dirty work office was serving double duty, though, because once they got kicked out, Norm needed a place to stay.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_03: So assume that he was also staying in in the office.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_03: And I am gonna call him Norm, not Mitch, the whole time because it's just Norm walking around talking to everybody.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_02: He didn't transform himself for this role at all.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_02: No, no.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_02: Uh no, he was sleeping in his car because remember that there was that scene where the guy breaks into his car and steals his ra radio.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_02: Which I didn't mean to sleep here.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_02: Which I did mean to look up.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_02: Like, why were car radios so valuable back then?
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_02: I know that was a thing I was scared of, like people stealing my radio, but why?
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_01: It was a common thing, I think, for people to upgrade and put money into at in those days.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_01: And it was easily taken out and installed in a new car if you wanted it.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_01: It's not like headlights or a hood or something that you kind of got to put it in the same car.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_03: You remember the ones that the faceplate would eject so that you tip it with you and then people wouldn't steal your face.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_03: I remember there's no point in stealing this one.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_01: For my for your faceplate?
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_01: For my faceplate, yeah.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_01: In my car.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's great.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_01: Did you have it on your belt like a cell phone, like a holster for your yeah.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_02: Do you want to run through some of your quotes, your favorite quotes from the movie?
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_01: How much time do you have?
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's just gonna be an hour and a half of him quoting the movie beginning to end.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_03: Hope you guys are cool with that.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_03: Uh the ones that I that are still kind of in my lexicon, the ones that I will text or say to my friends sometime still from that era.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Norm calling uh the frat house to say, hey, you know, that there's these fake cops running around and then immediately calls the police and says, Hello, real cops.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's a great norm joke.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_03: That's a perfect norm joke.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_03: Uh who's that dude?
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_03: He says that uh real funny when uh he's walking with his love interest, and um I forget the actor's name, David Kochner.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_03: Is that oh yeah, yeah.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_03: He starts yelling at her, who's that dude?
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_03: I also had okay, settle down prostitutes.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_03: I think my favorite quote from the whole movie is when Martin, who's the guy that became homeless because of uh uh, you know, he's thrown out.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_03: Shooter McAvan screwed him over.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yes, exactly.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_03: Uh he's telling his heartwarming tale, and then just from the screen, the hand comes in and says, Here's your two dollars, and they walk away.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_01: They do that again to him.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like they completely reject all sentimentality for this character.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so he goes into his lifelong story and then it zooms out and he's alone.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_01: They all left him while he was telling a story.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_02: Did you figure out who that actor is?
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_02: It's he lives to meet.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's Jim Downey, uh the guy from Chair Company that we talked about recently.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_02: He's a longtime SNL writer.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_03: And then he's also the he hosts the like Jeopardy type competition in Billy Madison.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_03: He's the host of that.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_03: Um he's the one that does I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_01: That's um also dumber for having listened to it or whatever.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_02: He he's the one from that Conan clip that you shared that's talking about uh Epstein.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Epstein.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's right.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_02: Uh and then Fred Wolf, the the other homeless guy, is the co-writer.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_01: Why were they dressed like South Park characters?
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_01: I thought that their c their like costumes must be a reference to something, but I couldn't figure out what it was.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't know.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_02: I just thought it was a 90s, you know, sanitized version of what we thought homeless people dress like.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_01: Well, this was also the 90s before they took the color out of all movies and made everything boring and gray.
• 44:40
  unknown: Yeah.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_03: He was also newly homeless.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_03: Like he really settled into that role pretty quick.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_01: I like how they were they differentiated themselves from the crazy homeless.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_01: They were the the sad, dejected, hopeless, homeless.
• 44:57
  unknown: Yeah.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_02: One of my favorite parts was the before he paid him when he was propositioning them, and they were like, no, we're we we're not gonna do that.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_02: And he said, How about for two dollars?
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_02: And then it cut to such a dumb joke.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_02: Cut to them running through and screaming.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_02: Uh one of my favorite moments was when Artie moons the list of the line of people outside the movie theater.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_02: And then he just barks at gets out so fast.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_00: He was supposed to keep driving.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know what what um the setup was, but Chris Farley just yelling, you bastard, uh cracked me up to no end for some reason.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_02: Another Artie part I liked when Artie says, You thinking what I'm thinking?
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_02: And Norm says, No, I have a plan.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_01: I like that.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_01: The the only Don Rickles line that I laughed at was in the outtakes and the credits when he was looking at Norm and he was like, How you got this movie, I'll never know.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_02: Same.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_02: Are you a Don Rickles fan?
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like I don't think generally no.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_01: I I it's like great for roasts, uh, but I feel like I don't love the it's just kind of mean spirited.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's just angry.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_01: Like the jokes are just mean.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_01: They're not like funny jokes a lot of the time.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_01: I wrote that he's just kind of mean in this movie.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_03: Him saying hello, ice cream, having a good time.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_03: That's kind of fun.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_03: That was funny to me.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_03: He's down talking to Artie's belly.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_03: I did chuckle.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_02: I I also liked the uh keep your distance there, Liberace, when Artie Artie goes to hug him.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_02: It just it just clear snapshot of what it was like to grow up in the 90s and couldn't show emotions.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_02: And hug your best friend.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_03: A hundred percent.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of a lot of calling people fruits in this movie.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_03: That was like pretty prominent.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_03: It didn't age that well.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_03: That was the culture.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_03: It was very much the culture.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_03: It was actually probably like a nice tame version of the culture.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think there were any hard R's in this movie, which there were some in the others we watched this month.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I think you're right.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_01: I loved the the little surprise John Goodman cameo as the mayor, who was just like clearly in love with this millionaire uh campaign donor uh character.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_03: I want John Goodman to be my mayor.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_03: I would listen to I would go to a lot more civic uh events if John Goodman was the mayor.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I would want John Goodman as Walter Sobchak from Big Lebowski, though, as my mayor.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_01: Completely deranged.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_01: Kind of a libertarian party situation for sure.
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's gonna show up with an oozy.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_02: Probably my favorite scene.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_02: And again, it's hard to describe it and make it sound funny if you don't watch it, but the prison scene where I I love the first part where he's talking to Artie, and Artie's like, I have no idea what you're talking about.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_02: And like this one's a lot of people.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_02: Just that somebody would be like, I have no idea.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_02: And then the execution of the uh to what you said earlier, Andrew, like they don't show anything.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_02: It's not, you know, it's not vulgar, but just his whole speech.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_02: And uh yeah, this is kind of a good example, I think, of him just pushing you in into being uncomfortable, so you have to laugh.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but he just goes on and on about how the thing that hurts most is loss of dignity or whatever he said.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_02: Well, the other thing the lack of respect.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_01: Ridiculous.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_01: I love how it's like he's telling him what's gonna happen, and it just jump cuts to him with his pants like unzipped around his thighs, he's holding them up, like clutching his belt.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, I feel like if they had their way, they would have graphically shown everything, and because of the forced edit by the the studio, that joke works.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, agree.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_03: Less is more.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_03: My favorite scene in the movie when they are doing the prank on the like rich people, rich neighbors next door, and uh they come home and it's like a drug deal gone bad, and they're just standing there with they're putting fish everywhere in the house.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_03: So they're standing there with fish in their hands while all this stuff happens off screen.
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah the sound is so funny, and everybody describing the violence that's happening, and they're just standing there uh, you know, unmoving, just kind of taking it all in.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_03: And then the real cap on the end of that was Artie then going back to hide more fish.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh, I changed my mind.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_02: That that is my favorite scene.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_02: I I yeah, I skipped over that in my notes.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_02: I think that was I laughed so hard.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_02: They froze on screen for so long.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_01: And they weren't doing any, there was no reactions or anything.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_01: The entire joke was just in the sound of the scene.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_03: He took my chainsaw and now he's using it on me.
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_03: That's so stupid.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_03: And they're walking out and there's like squish noises from all the blood and organs or whatever that's all over the place.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_02: How many felonies did they commit in the course of this movie?
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, what was the felony count?
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_03: Did anybody keep track?
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_02: I started, but I don't know.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_02: I impersonating a cop right off right off the bat, like before they even got into business.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_02: Uh and then this one, certainly breaking and entering and accessory to multiple murders, I guess.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_02: Fleeing the scene of a crime.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_01: It was a lot.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_01: It was a lot.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's like you could probably go back and count them like you count and do the body count and gladiator or whatever.
• 51:30
  unknown: Yeah.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_01: Have a felony count rewatch.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_02: Uh why are Norm's shirts so big?
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_02: Just a random observation.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_02: Like it was the style.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_02: They seemed to get bigger throughout the movie.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_02: I I don't know if that was just me or it just kind of wore on me, but um it would be funny if they did get bigger, and that was kind of part of the joke.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_01: But well, were they wearing the same clothes that they wore as kids throughout the whole movie?
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_01: I hope that's true.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_04: I did not notice that.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I just it was a random thought towards the end, but I was like, I feel like when he gets thrown into the dumpster and it's that gag of him bouncing off the lid and falling in every time.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, I'm pretty sure that he's wearing the same clothes in that stunt.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm pretty sure it was the same stunt actor that did that as an adult that did it when he was a kid, too.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and then Artie's wearing like that really tight straight the whole movie.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_01: I that could be wrong, but I I I hope it's true that that that they did that.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_03: Speaking of felonies, when they were trashing the building, which is like the big plot point, right?
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_03: They gotta trash this building.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_03: How did they not look around and notice that it was just all normal, well-kept apartments, not drug dealers and houses of prostitution?
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_03: I don't understand.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think they were thinking it through.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_02: That was certainly a giant plot hole.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_02: They were so focused on the 50 grand.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_01: I loved uh when Norm breaks into the love interests apartment and sees her picture there on the wall with her grandma, and he's like looking at it longingly, and then Artie just breaks down the door and smashes him.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_02: They they had a great dynamic.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_02: I I do think Artie was perfect in this.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_02: Uh another Norm Artie quote, Norm says it's a long story, and Artie jumps in.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_02: My dad voed his mom.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, it's a short story.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's a short story.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_01: You know how Kelly says that um Seinfeld is funnier for her to talk about and remember than to watch.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like that's how this movie is for me, is I love I love to talk about it, but when I watch it, I didn't laugh as much as I'm laughing just thinking about it.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, which is how I feel like norm jokes usually are for me, is when I think back on them, I'm like, that is so stupid that it it just tickles me.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I think you're right.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_02: This may be a movie that the more you watch, the funnier it gets because you're just remembering it being funny as you watch it.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_01: Living proof here.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_01: It's true.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_01: If you have it forced upon you a hundred times, that's right.
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_01: You learn to love it.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_02: Uh there's probably some graph where it like diffs and then you you reach Nirvana around like 50 some watches.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_03: Uh what do you guys think of?
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, what's her name?
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_03: Trailer The Love Interest.
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_03: Howard.
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_03: Trailer Howard.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_01: Trailer Howard.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_01: I thought she was good.
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_01: I I didn't think that she had a lot to work with at all.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_01: Was she the s like the the assistant and monk?
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_01: She was.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_01: I the whole time I was like, she looks so familiar.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_03: I was a big monk fan.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_03: I liked that show a lot.
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_03: And I liked her a lot in that movie, in that show.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_03: Was she the second assistant or the first?
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_03: Second and longer running.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_03: The longer one.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_02: I thought she was pretty good in this.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_03: She was also in uh Two Guys, a Girl and a Pizza Place, which I never saw, but that kind of launched Ryan Reynolds' career and Nathan Fillian was in it.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, she was me, myself, and the green as well.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_03: Which movie.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_01: Funny story that came out when I was 13, and my grandma knew I was a huge Jim Carrey fan, and she was like, We were over at her house spending the night, and she was like, Let's get the new Jim Carrey movie, and we watched that.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_01: That movie is so dirty.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_01: That's a hard R movie, isn't it?
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_01: I watched that with my grandma as a 13-year-old.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_01: Perfect.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_01: Why am I peeing like I've been up having sex all night?
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's really hilarious with your grandma.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_01: She did she watch through all of it with you?
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_01: I think she shut it off at some point.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_02: The ending of this movie made no sense, like their whole plot to ruin the opera.
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_02: But there were still some funny moments.
• 56:13
  SPEAKER_02: Like I liked the guy that was still sitting in the audience, and he was like, they're using skunks to heighten the atmosphere of squalor and despair.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_02: Like just still really into the show, no matter what's happening.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_01: He was the longest.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_02: CGI skunks, too.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_03: Not very good CGI.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_02: That's where the 13 million went.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_03: That's right.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_03: Three or five of the millions were CGI skunks, for that scene.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_01: I loved with that guy too.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_01: Every time they showed him, there were just fewer and fewer people.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_01: And like the second to last time, it's him and his wife.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_01: And then the last time his wife has left and he's just there by himself clapping.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like I relate to that guy.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_02: I can't really pinpoint it, but I feel like there, you know, there are times where I'm like, I'm just, I'm gonna stay till the end of the movie, no matter what.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, there's a there's a Tosh joke about that where he he's talking about how he loves to make his jokes more and more narrow as they go on until there's just one person that laughs.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and then in that same set, he told some joke that just got progressively and progressively strange.
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_01: And then you hear one guy in the background just dying laughing.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, I got him.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_03: That's you.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_03: Uh pretty good soundtrack.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_03: Very, very time capsule soundtrack.
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_03: Uh semicharm life.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_03: Better than Ezra, uh Tub Thumping by Chumbawomba.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_03: Like you really the 90s alt uh or turn of the century alt stuff was really, really good.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, semi-charm kind of life was the first song that came on, and I was like, oh, this feels like 2000.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_01: I love this.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_02: I'll just stare blankly while you guys talk about the soundtrack.
• 58:01
  SPEAKER_02: This is no night of the roxbury for me.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_02: Final verdict, Aaron.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_02: Where where's this on your scale?
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_01: I was gonna give it a three, but I feel like the more I talk about it, the funnier it gets.
• 58:13
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna give it a three and a half on my bad movie scale.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's will you watch it again?
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_01: I would watch it again, yeah.
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_02: This is probably one of the few that I would watch it.
• 58:26
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, not not immediately, but you know, I've I've liked it more every time I've watched it.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_01: So only twice, but and then like the more I talk about it, the funnier it seems.
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_01: I I think I think it's one of those movies that'll grow on me.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_01: I can definitely see why it's got like a cult following, especially for Norm fans.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's peak norm.
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_01: What are your alt picks?
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_03: My altpick is Norm Sports Show.
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_03: He he had a show on Comedy Central, I think, for maybe two years.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_03: And it was kind of a sports talk show, but it was mostly just Norm being Norm.
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_03: And if you like his kind of humor, it was exactly I mean, it's just you know, right in the pocket of the anti-humor, kind of dumb joke stuff that he does.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_03: Also, I think pretty much introduced the world to Kyle Mooney, um, who plays for some reason he pretends that Kyle Mooney is his nephew on the sports show.
• 59:28
  SPEAKER_03: And he's like, So, like, I promised my nephew Kyle that he could do a segment, and then he does these really awkward interview segments that are a lot of fun to watch if you like true cringe humor.
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_01: Do I?
• 59:45
  SPEAKER_01: Are you gonna watch the uh Nathan Field or Elizabeth Holmes movie?
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_02: Andrew and I have already texted extensively about this.
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I told Andrew.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_03: They specifically said like the most anticipated release of the year or something.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I yeah, I I said I can't remember the last time I've been so excited for a movie to come out.
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_02: Like that this is like lineup for Star Wars uh level.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_01: It was the Dark Knight and then the Elizabeth Holmes movie.
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_02: I mean Dark Dark Knight was definitely a top, but uh yes.
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_02: You're you're not a Nathan Fielder fan, though.
• 1:00:19
  SPEAKER_02: Right, Aaron.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_01: No, I I can't stand cringe humor.
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like the Jackass movies is about as as far as I'll go.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_01: And even like I haven't even seen the last two of those.
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_02: That is so different.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_02: You can't compare Nathan Fielder to Jackass like that.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_02: They're very different.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_02: That's not the same category.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, they do they do do public uh the things that I don't like are when they're playing a joke on somebody that doesn't know that they're having a joke played on them, uh, and then they're recording it and releasing it to millions of people.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_01: I don't like that.
• 1:00:54
  SPEAKER_01: It makes me uncomfortable.
• 1:00:56
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I'll laugh at somebody who knows that they're in a in a joke, but yeah, it it's not my style.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_03: What I think works about Nathan Fielder doing it is he doesn't ever feel like he's making fun of the people.
• 1:01:11
  SPEAKER_03: He's making fun of him.
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_03: He's like putting himself below them, even if they are crazy, questionable, yeah, you know, odd characters.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_03: And no matter how strange they come off, he always comes off stranger.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there is admittedly a gray area though, because some of the characters are characters, the people, and in the episodes, you're like, this person is really weird, and it's hard not to like be creeped out or weirded out by their strange behavior, but yeah, I do think he tries not to make them the butt of the joke.
• 1:01:51
  SPEAKER_02: There is this undercurrent story that it's all about Nathan.
• 1:01:55
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know how that's gonna translate to the Elizabeth Holmes movie, but I mean it seems like a different kind of project though.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_01: Like I don't it doesn't seem like the same type of comedy that it seems more like just a straight lens into the craziness.
• 1:02:09
  SPEAKER_01: More like the rehearsal, probably.
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_02: I should have made the trailer of the what I'm watching this week.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_02: What's your all pick, Aaron?
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh well I was looking through the IMDB pages for for this movie, and I stumbled upon Screwed, which is a norm and Dave Chappelle movie with Danny DeVito.
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_01: I wanted to pick it up, but I haven't seen it.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_01: It looks it looks ridiculous.
• 1:02:38
  SPEAKER_01: It looks similar to this movie, uh, but I didn't pick it.
• 1:02:43
  SPEAKER_01: I picked uh Half Baked uh because of the the connection with Dave Chappelle.
• 1:02:49
  SPEAKER_01: Uh but it it feels like with Bob Saget, you mean?
• 1:02:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:02:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Bob Sagitt.
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_01: That's the connection.
• 1:02:57
  SPEAKER_01: Uh it it feels similar.
• 1:03:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's another like ridiculous raise money story.
• 1:03:04
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I gotta save Kenny's sweet virgin ass from prison from Nasty Nate.
• 1:03:12
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, I love Half Baked, so that was my pick.
• 1:03:16
  SPEAKER_01: I haven't seen that since college.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_01: Same.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's worth a re rewatch.
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:03:20
  SPEAKER_02: My pick was the show Crashing with Pete Holmes, and Artie was on it for quite a bit.
• 1:03:26
  SPEAKER_02: I think he eleven episodes or so.
• 1:03:29
  SPEAKER_02: Did you both watch Crashing?
• 1:03:30
  SPEAKER_01: I think I've seen at least the first season.
• 1:03:33
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's uh due for me for a week rewatch.
• 1:03:37
  SPEAKER_02: I really loved that when it came on.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_02: It was one of the funniest shows of of that year, I I think, but also just really well blended in terms of like great emotional arcs and great acting by Pete and others, and really deep and poignant, but also just hilarious.
• 1:03:56
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I really enjoyed that show.
• 1:04:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think that show's pretty slept on, but it's it's better than the sort of attention that it got, I think.
• 1:04:08
  SPEAKER_03: I think Artie is fantastic in it.
• 1:04:10
  SPEAKER_03: They I mean you were talking about the intervention stuff, they dig right into his addiction issues and things like that in a you know, and keep it funny, but it's like it's a real thing that they tackle in the show.
• 1:04:24
  SPEAKER_03: And um yeah, I I watched it all the way through and then I did do a full rewatch of it maybe last year, the year before that.
• 1:04:34
  SPEAKER_03: It holds up great.
• 1:04:35
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like Pete Holmes is great at that type of comedy that is like observational and relatable, but like has heart and like feels real.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:04:50
  SPEAKER_02: I think it was just two seasons, by the way.
• 1:04:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um we all I think all three of us saw Pete Pete when he played live.
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_02: Was that last year or two years ago?
• 1:04:59
  SPEAKER_03: You didn't I didn't see him.
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_03: And you and I saw him on separate days, right?
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_03: You went on a Friday and I went on a Saturday or something like that.
• 1:05:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:05:08
  SPEAKER_03: Um But he was really good.
• 1:05:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I feel like it was one of the best uh comedy sets that I've seen in terms of I think we talked about this where it felt like he uh did a perfect job of seeming effortless and almost off the cuff in his uh delivery, but it was clearly just he was such such a master of his craft and how he was kind of organizing the jokes and transitioning and uh tying everything together that it was just like wow.
• 1:05:42
  SPEAKER_02: I I was just really impressed by his craft.
• 1:05:45
  SPEAKER_01: Have you uh followed him on social media lately?
• 1:05:49
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not very active on social media, so no.
• 1:05:53
  SPEAKER_01: I've only seen ads and like Instagram reels that he's been in, but it seems like he's pushing like my Mind supplements and uh like some spirituality thing really hard lately.
• 1:06:06
  SPEAKER_01: It seems strange.
• 1:06:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he has like a daily it's like a health drink with L-featine and theanine and a couple other things in it.
• 1:06:16
  SPEAKER_03: I I get ads for that sometimes.
• 1:06:18
  SPEAKER_03: He also um put is a spokesperson for like a shampoo alternative that I actually use.
• 1:06:29
  SPEAKER_02: What does that mean, shampoo alternative?
• 1:06:32
  SPEAKER_03: Uh it's like less sort of damaging for your hair than than shampoo, basically.
• 1:06:39
  SPEAKER_03: And yeah, I thought I I saw his advertisements for it.
• 1:06:43
  SPEAKER_01: If it's not a shampoo, what is it?
• 1:06:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I this this sounds like a powder.
• 1:06:48
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know, I don't know how to make this sound intelligent as a question, but isn't it just a different kind of shampoo?
• 1:06:54
  SPEAKER_02: Like shampoo's broad.
• 1:06:55
  SPEAKER_02: It's not like oh shampoo has to have the these two.
• 1:07:00
  SPEAKER_03: It's the it's actually a bar.
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_03: Like it's a So it's soap.
• 1:07:04
  SPEAKER_03: It's like a bar of soap that you you put through your hands and do it like shampoo.
• 1:07:10
  SPEAKER_03: But it doesn't um I want them to call it a soap.
• 1:07:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's a hair soap.
• 1:07:18
  SPEAKER_02: I can't remember the joke exactly, but you know, that TV show Dave uh with Lil Dicky, there's a scene where he's he's like at a CVS or something and he like presses the need help button and the clerk comes over and he's like asking him about different shampoos, and the guy's like, I don't know, man.
• 1:07:36
  SPEAKER_02: Like and and the guy's just I forget exactly how it goes, but he said something about, you know, just try this, and Dave just like soap on the head, like he's so perplexed that the guy would recommend using soap on your head.
• 1:07:50
  SPEAKER_01: But anyway, yeah.
• 1:07:51
  SPEAKER_01: It does feel wrong.
• 1:07:54
  SPEAKER_01: I've done it before.
• 1:07:56
  SPEAKER_02: Uh well, I can't relate as a hair-challenged individual.
• 1:08:01
  SPEAKER_03: How long have you been?
• 1:08:02
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not gonna give him free advertisement, but you know, if you're interested, check it out.
• 1:08:06
  SPEAKER_03: Does it work?
• 1:08:07
  SPEAKER_00: You like it?
• 1:08:08
  SPEAKER_00: I like it a lot, yeah.
• 1:08:09
  SPEAKER_00: What um what's the what does it do that shampoo or what doesn't it do that shampoo does?
• 1:08:17
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna answer your question, but I am also gonna say I wish I had not brought this up.
• 1:08:21
  SPEAKER_03: Let's spend 30 minutes on this.
• 1:08:23
  SPEAKER_02: This this will be on the extra bonus episode.
• 1:08:26
  SPEAKER_03: That's right.
• 1:08:27
  SPEAKER_03: Uh it doesn't take the natural oils out of your hair.
• 1:08:31
  SPEAKER_03: And so, like well, the shampoo goes through a cycle where it takes all the oils out of your hair, and then your hair or your head produces a lot more oil, and then it's like this vicious cycle of always fighting that.
• 1:08:43
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, if you use uh this Pete Holmes shampoo that shall not be named, then it doesn't pull the oils out of your hair.
• 1:08:53
  SPEAKER_03: So then your your head learns to stop producing a lot of oil.
• 1:08:56
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sold.
• 1:08:57
  SPEAKER_01: Pete, please reach out to us.
• 1:08:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we're open to sponsors.
• 1:09:01
  SPEAKER_03: That's right.
• 1:09:02
  SPEAKER_03: Big fans.
• 1:09:03
  SPEAKER_03: And we'll that's kind of like reselling.
• 1:09:05
  SPEAKER_03: It's Pete.
• 1:09:07
  SPEAKER_03: Pete Holmes goes to us to do his sponsorships for him.
• 1:09:12
  SPEAKER_03: To reach our broad audience.
• 1:09:14
  SPEAKER_02: And the middleman's middleman.
• 1:09:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:09:17
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, we'll we'll hawk whatever vitamins or supplements or Aday will get on here and talk about how he uses the shampoo on his luxurious head of hair.
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:09:30
  SPEAKER_01: We wear hats for a reason.
• 1:09:36
  SPEAKER_01: Oh it's funny because it's true and sad.
• 1:09:40
  SPEAKER_01: Andrew with his beautiful head of Pete Holmes hair.
• 1:09:44
  SPEAKER_01: Tell you what's all the I used to be bald.
• 1:09:46
  SPEAKER_01: All the advertising you need.
• 1:10:00
  SPEAKER_02: Is there anybody in my life who would just like pretend like try to pretend they don't even notice?
• 1:10:05
  SPEAKER_02: I've been bald for like 30 years.
• 1:10:10
  SPEAKER_01: Well, if you go to Turkey and get hair plugs, I'm going with you.
• 1:10:15
  SPEAKER_03: That'd be a fun road trip.
• 1:10:16
  SPEAKER_03: You guys could do kind of a road edition of the worst movie podcast.
• 1:10:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, that could be like an eight-part you know documentary.
• 1:10:27
  SPEAKER_01: We need to do a European live tour of the show so we can write it off uh on our taxes.
• 1:10:35
  SPEAKER_01: That'd be good.
• 1:10:36
  SPEAKER_01: Watch some European movies.
• 1:10:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:10:41
  SPEAKER_01: Wasn't that a movie?
• 1:10:42
  SPEAKER_01: Euro trip, yeah.
• 1:10:43
  SPEAKER_01: Euro trip.
• 1:10:44
  SPEAKER_01: That's what it was, yeah.
• 1:10:49
  SPEAKER_03: It's kind of like the rural juror.
• 1:10:51
  SPEAKER_04: It's a little hard to say.
• 1:10:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:10:55
  SPEAKER_01: Uh well Jackie Jormp jump.
• 1:10:59
  SPEAKER_02: I think we're I think we're well past talking about dirty work.
• 1:11:04
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
• 1:11:06
  SPEAKER_02: Uh thanks again, Andrew.
• 1:11:08
  SPEAKER_02: Uh anything you want to promote now?
• 1:11:11
  SPEAKER_02: You don't have to, but other than shampoo.
• 1:11:14
  SPEAKER_03: I'll promote.
• 1:11:15
  SPEAKER_03: Well, uh yeah, check out the Pete Holmes shampoo.
• 1:11:19
  SPEAKER_03: Uh use code Clark for uh 15% off your order.
• 1:11:24
  SPEAKER_03: And uh thanks for having me, guys.
• 1:11:26
  SPEAKER_03: It's been a fun run of some good SNL movies.
• 1:11:30
  SPEAKER_03: We'll have to have you back.
• 1:11:31
  SPEAKER_03: And some bad SNL movies.
• 1:11:32
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, uh if you could pick any category to come back, you know, not not that this no pressure, but uh if you could pick a different category, what what would it be?
• 1:11:43
  SPEAKER_02: That's good.
• 1:11:44
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know what I would call the category, and this movie probably isn't bad enough, but in the vein of like uh pretentious high school, pretentious college movies, like if we could collect that up, I want to go back and visit things like uh Boondock Saints and Donnie Darko, and just movies that seemed like they were so smart and cool at the time.
• 1:12:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:12:10
  SPEAKER_03: Wouldn't mind tearing into some of those.
• 1:12:14
  SPEAKER_01: I love Boondock Saints unironically.
• 1:12:18
  SPEAKER_03: I maybe it's good.
• 1:12:20
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 1:12:20
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if it's bad enough.
• 1:12:22
  SPEAKER_03: I I never liked it.
• 1:12:23
  SPEAKER_03: Um Yeah, I don't think it's below below the percentage.
• 1:12:30
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
• 1:12:30
  SPEAKER_03: Sequels, that'd be an interesting one.
• 1:12:32
  SPEAKER_03: Or like direct to DVD sequels or something like that.
• 1:12:36
  SPEAKER_02: There's some bad ones for sure.
• 1:12:37
  SPEAKER_01: Moondoc Saints is 26%.
• 1:12:39
  SPEAKER_01: That's bad enough.
• 1:12:40
  SPEAKER_01: Oh.
• 1:12:41
  SPEAKER_03: Is it 30?
• 1:12:42
  SPEAKER_03: Is your is your cutoff?
• 1:12:44
  SPEAKER_02: Uh we have rough guidelines, I guess.
• 1:12:46
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think we've done anything above 33.
• 1:12:50
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we've talked about this.
• 1:12:52
  SPEAKER_01: This is one of those movies where it's 26% tomato meter, 91% popcorn.
• 1:12:59
  SPEAKER_01: Where movies where it's like fans love it but critics hate it.
• 1:13:03
  SPEAKER_01: We've talked about that as a as a topic.
• 1:13:06
  unknown: Yeah.
• 1:13:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's a good idea.
• 1:13:08
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:13:09
  SPEAKER_02: We'll we'll save bin.
• 1:13:12
  SPEAKER_03: Sure.
• 1:13:12
  SPEAKER_03: Anytime.
• 1:13:15
  SPEAKER_02: Well, anybody out there have questions or comments?
• 1:13:18
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• 1:13:23
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• 1:13:27
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• 1:13:28
  SPEAKER_02: I'm a day.
• 1:13:30
  SPEAKER_01: I'm Aaron.
• 1:13:30
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