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Into the Weeds - Why is No One Watching · Military Broadcast Radio | MBR Talk

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  This entire military is 1 cohesive dedicated force and the
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  threats to our nations, they don't sleep, they're watching
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  our every. Move.
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  Iran, Russia, China, North Korea, ISIS, Al Qaeda.
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  They may be watching this right now.
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  Our military should not be mistaken for our cable news
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  gadfest show. We don't care what you look
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  like. You don't care who you voted
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  for, who you worship, what you worship, who you love.
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  It doesn't matter if your dad left you millions when he died
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  or if you knew who your father was.
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  We have been honed into a machine of lethal moving parts
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  that you would be wise to avoid if you know what's good for you.
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  We will not be intimidated. We will not back down.
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  We don't want war. But if you want war in the
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  United States of America, there's one thing I can promise
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  you. So help me God, someone Opinions
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  I'm muted. Hello, everybody, and welcome to
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  Into the Weeds podcast here on military broadcast Radio.
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  I'm Amber. And I'm Laura.
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  And thank you so much for joining us tonight.
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  We've had a pretty good week. Oh yeah, I've had a pretty good
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  week, a very busy week, and we're going to have a busy few
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  weeks, a busy May, so. Yeah, it's.
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  Like a little mushroom festival. Not not the fun kind, but
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  anyway, a little mushroom festival here in Missouri and
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  tomorrow I'm going to some block party type thing and, and what
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  else are we doing this month? Oh, well, we're going to
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  Florida, I think, for my son's 20th birthday, so I think we're
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  going to actually go to Universal and check out their
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  new park. So that'll be fun.
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  Nice to see you Main chick, Carrie and Jan and Rachel Baron.
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  So yeah, we're we've got a lot of stuff going on.
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  I actually been super busy this week.
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  I've not only have I trained some veterans, but I helped out
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  Nadatha Walker from YouTube and TikTok, helping her set up for a
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  podcast and then search with Lisa.
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  She's supposed to be here. I don't know if she'll be here
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  or not tonight, so, but yeah, we've, we've just been extremely
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  busy. And we do want to mention that
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  today is Dee Dee Blanchard's birthday.
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  So we want to say rest in peace and happy heavenly birthday to
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  Dee Dee. You know I can't.
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  Yeah, my mom is past. And so it's it's it's a hard
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  thing. Well.
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  I still understand, yeah. And a lot of things seem to have
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  been happening today on Dee Dee's birthday.
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  Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  That whole thing that Gypsy did to Ryan Anderson, I think that's
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  not cool. No, it's not cool at all.
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  It's a little. Weird.
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  But like that's not, it's not cool to be giving out all this
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  like medical information about people, especially when you're
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  kind of upset that people are giving medical information about
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  you, which I totally agree. Like you should be upset but you
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  know two Reds don't make it wrong.
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  Yeah, yeah. I mean the fact that she knows
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  what it feels like to have her medical information out there
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  without. Her.
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  Yeah, without her desire for it to be out there.
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  I know she gave her consent at one time so I can't say without
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  her consent, but definitely to know the fact that she feels a
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  certain way and then didn't reciprocate that feeling to Ryan
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  and and think about what he was feeling is just really crappy.
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  I mean, what did you really expect?
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  Yeah, I know, I know. Hi.
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  Hey, Miss behaving Sintaz, my Michelle and we are live on
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  Tiktok as well. It's through MBR Radio's
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  channel. So if you are actually, it would
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  be great if some people would go and check it out on TikTok so we
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  can get NB Rs following up some and share it out please.
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  So yeah. So today we actually are going
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  to be joined by Lisa from The Search with Lisa's YouTube
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  channel and TikTok. And she is somebody who talks
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  about missing people and true crime and stuff like that.
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  And a couple days ago she she did a video about why what's
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  wrong with the true crime community?
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  Why is no one watching about missing people and unsolved
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  crimes and things like that. And I thought it was a really
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  good, good video. And to just kind of remember
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  that true crime should be not only about learning, but it also
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  should be something that we tried to be proactive.
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  Yeah, proactive, get things solved, you know, and that's one
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  of the reasons, the true crime stuff that I actually do, that's
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  the kind of stuff that I normally want to talk about.
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  You know, it's stuff that we can affect change and so make a
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  difference. Yeah.
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  So we're going to bring Lisa up. I'm going to play our little
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  interview of the week. The interview of the week is
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  brought to you by Jersey Mike's, a sub above.
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  Hello, Lisa. Welcome.
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  How are you? We're pretty good.
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  Good. How are you doing?
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  I'm. Doing good.
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  I liked your your little sponsor and that was really nice.
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  And I love Jersey Mikes. I love you.
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  Yeah, I do too. They they provide sandwiches for
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  the guys at the studio in Denver.
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  And so that's that's how they sponsor us.
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  So we like to give them credit. Thank you for having me.
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  Hello everybody. I had them on the private chat,
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  so I was like straight buddy. So I just switched it over.
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  So hello everybody. Yeah, hello.
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  Justin, welcome in. Yeah.
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  So, Lisa, thank you for joining us.
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  And we, we spoke for probably a couple hours yesterday.
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  Yeah, and it was so nice. It was so nice.
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  It really was. I was thinking how much did we
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  get accomplished? But it was a great time and it
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  was it was a great chat and I did learn some things from you.
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  So thank you. I know what you're doing is
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  helping so many too as well so. Yeah, and your dad is a veteran
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  as well. Yes, he was, he was in the Army.
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  So he did a little over 20 years with the Army.
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  So, yeah, growing up as a Army brat was a great experience.
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  It really was. I, I love the military
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  community. I find it so the fact that you
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  you know, you as well as veteran and working and I I just think
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  that's great because it is different than being in the
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  civilian life and I it really is and half of my childhood like I
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  spent over in Germany. So we did three tours of Germany
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  and I and it really was we were all each other had.
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  So I really didn't even experience some serious things
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  that we have in America going on, like even like racial issues
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  and stuff like that. When we were over there, there
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  it was everybody was green. That was it, you know, and that
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  was the truth. We were for all holidays for
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  any, any grieving, any happy things.
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  It was. But we got to go all over Europe
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  and see things that I had such a great experience, which I think
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  today has helped me with things I do in social media cause I've
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  been to some places. I, I not jump starting, but I
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  experienced going to Prague and Czechoslovakia before it was
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  Czech Republic. So it was still for communists
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  over there. I don't know why my, my mom is a
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  teacher. So we always had spring breaks
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  and so why she thought we needed to go to communist country to
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  tour. But we would do these things
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  called ITT tours. So they were, they were not
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  expensive and we could go and it was so we would go with a lot of
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  people. And I believe it's, I'm not
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  mistaken, it's crystal that's really cheap in Czechoslovakia.
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  It's either, I don't think it's China, I think it's crystal.
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  And so that was kind of main reasons a lot of people went to
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  collect that. And, you know, we got to just
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  see just things that you would never see.
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  And so that was things like that.
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  And then we got to go to like Anne Frank's attic.
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  So I got to see things like that over in Amsterdam and then the
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  other side, like Austria and seeing Hitler's things, the
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  Eagle's nest. So you really, you know, growing
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  up and seeing things like that I think really helped with where I
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  am today. I really do so.
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  That actually excites me. All the all that stuff.
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  I'm like, oh, history, history. Yeah, I know.
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  I love history. I'm definitely because I am not
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  a math person. I I am definitely a history
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  person. And Laura, I wanted to say hello
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  to you. So this is your daughter, right?
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  Laura, Hello. Nice.
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  To meet you. You too?
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  Yeah. Sorry about that.
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  Oh, yeah. No, it's OK.
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  I just want to make sure I said a lot.
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  But yeah, I'm definitely more of a history person.
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  I actually was going to school at one time.
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  I wanted to teach history and, but things were so different
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  when I went to school. There wasn't a lot of, I think
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  then I was doing like U.S. history, more Civil War history.
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  And so now what is taught in school is a little bit different
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  than what I would have concentrated in, which I still
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  think I could have done. But yeah, it's a little, it is
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  different compared to what we studied versus now, which I
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  mean, it's good we're evolving. But so, but I remember it really
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  that's what helped me kind of like trigger me into enjoying
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  history growing up and seeing so much.
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  And it's really good when you are raising awareness, I think
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  to have those experiences. And so, yeah.
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  Yeah. Now, what was one of the main
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  differences you saw in the Communist country versus
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  America? So, you know, it's what sticks
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  out in my head is I feel like everything was brown.
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  Does that make sense? Like very not colorful.
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  There were guards with guns. I've never really experienced
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  anything like that dictatorship. So also when we were there, like
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  the water was not good. We could not drink.
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  Literally they said don't drink the water because it wasn't
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  healthy. You know, Also when we got, I
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  remember it when we were going in our rooms, we were told to
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  not speak about certain things like military subjects.
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  They could be bugged and like, why are we on this trip?
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  Like if we're getting these warnings, but I can remember us
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  going in and then coming on the bus and they had a gun, like
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  guns strapped on their back to just kind of, I mean, they
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  respected us and they were, you know, cordial with us.
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  But it was not a welcome come on into our country.
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  You know, it was basically because they were making money
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  from us and we had to be very when we would go places, I
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  remember having tour guides or tour people with us, like we
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  could just go off, you know, like now you like if you go on a
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  trip with a tour people, you know, they say, OK, go off on
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  excursions and do that and meet us back.
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  We had you won. You had to be together in groups
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  and you had to have a little more protection with you.
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  So I remember those things, but the food and it's not about the
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  culture food, if I remember it just not being like you were a
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  little leery, like I don't know, the cleanliness definitely.
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  It just was not, it was a sad looking country.
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  It was, it was sad. And like I said, I just remember
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  brown. It wasn't lit up at night.
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  It wasn't, it wasn't inviting at all.
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  So it wasn't somewhere you wanted to be long, you know, And
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  but yeah, it wasn't. And so I hope today, you know, I
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  haven't been back. You know, now that it's Czech
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  Republic, that all the changes. But when you see things on TV in
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  some of these countries, when they show like, you know, Iran
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  and just different things that just don't look very inviting,
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  that's exactly what what you're getting over there.
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  And nothing, I'm not saying anything about Iran.
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  I'm just saying like that's something that comes to mind
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  when I see some countries. That's what I see because we
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  have some countries that are just poor countries, but they're
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  very happy to see people come in and they welcome you.
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  And it may not be the the best looking country, but they're
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  very happy to have you there. That's not that was not the case
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  at all. So definitely.
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  Different. You probably felt like you were
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  somewhere you shouldn't be. Yeah, I was kind of like, why
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  are we doing this the whole time?
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  And I, I had a broken arm at the time too.
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  And so I was like, just when are we leaving?
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  And then my mom took me and I was a little younger, so this
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  was the last thing I wanted to do.
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  And I remember one of the tours where we did a we went to go see
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  Macbeth. That's the last thing I wanted
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  to do. And sitting in like, like I felt
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  like no air conditioner with a cast on my arm watching Macbeth
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  play, I really could have cared what?
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  Kind of goes with the whole mood.
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  Right. Oh, so anyway.
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  But yeah. OK, So what got you into talking
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  about what you're talking about now on your channel search with
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  Lisa? Yes, the search with Lisa.
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  So to keep it short and not drawn out, I did.
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  So I was a young mom. I had my son when I was 20,
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  almost 21. And so I did what I did,
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  substitute teaching and luckily I landed some permanent jobs
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  with that. What I mean by permanent is when
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  like say maternity leave. So I saw you that you would get
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  like the long term job. And then there was times where I
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  could have, you know, just here or there and it worked for me.
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  And I'll tell you that it kind of goes back because I was
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  dealing with medical help things and issues and so and I didn't
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  know what was going on in this when I was younger.
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  And I also worked with a law firm as well.
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  But the substitute really worked out for me just with having a
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  young child and being able to work around that well while
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  substituting. Also, I got a job working in the
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  autism pre-K. So that was my first experience
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  of doing that and it I had never had any because I don't have
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  anybody in my fat, my father in the family with autism or
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  anything like that. So I'd never been around that.
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  And it just kind of like you as you go through life, there's
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  something that sparks you. And I really had a connection
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  with that. So I'll leave that there.
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  So that that's the connection that started me with that.
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  And so, but growing up, I, I always had some things going on
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  with mental health. I had a great family, like I
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  said, we did a lot. I had my mom was a teacher.
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  I was the only child. So things were good.
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  And there was no reason that I should have felt sad a lot or
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  just not right. I dealt with a lot of like body
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  aches and nobody was knowing thing.
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  And I'm 47. So there was no Google.
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  There was no like figuring out I would go to doctors and nobody
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  was fixing anything. Well, when I hit about 15 or 16,
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  I finally got tested for my thyroid and they found out that
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  I had hypothyroidism. So anyway, they gave me medicine
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  and that was the journey that has never still today totally
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  been solved. But at first I remember it kind
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  of helping a little bit. But I had like this chronic leg
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  pain and things like that. So moving forward, I continued
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  to I got in a car accident in my young 20s and anyway that led to
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  having I like broke my knee, my jaw, my eye.
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  I'm not and break my eye. I actually.
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  But. So, yeah, so there was a little
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  more issues now coming on and like the pain.
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  So I never felt quite right, just to kind of give you about
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  like nothing felt right. I always battled with my weight.
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  I wasn't overweight like I am now, but I always had to make
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  sure not to go over these. Like, you know, I had to always
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  make sure I was active or I would really put the weight.
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  I would put weight on. And so everything was a struggle
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  and I'm like, what is? I just felt so alone.
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  So that's when it comes. I felt so alone.
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  So I'm going through life and I have my son and so I'm starting
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  to get the experience with the autism.
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  And anyway, as I get older, I then have my own business and
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  that worked for me. We moved, we lived in
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  Fayetteville because my father was stationed at Fort Bragg and
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  retired there. And then my mom continued to
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  work and then he went and worked for the state.
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  So we just stayed there. So then we had an opportunity to
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  move to the beach. I mean, I wasn't living with
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  them then. I was out on my own, but he
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  worked for the state in his last three years before he retired.
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  They said there's opportunity to where we live now to move and we
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  were like, yes, we'll all move to the beach.
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  So that's how we got here and then I got into my own business.
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  Now part of my business was dealing.
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  It was sweepstakes and it kind of like casino type things.
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  Well, in North Carolina they stopped all of that.
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  So here I was, what am I going to do?
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  I physically had never really gotten better.
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  It was getting worse. But you know, I just what was I
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  going to do? And that for a while I had
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  thought about writing a book because I had kind of tracked my
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  life a little bit of what's going on and through these years
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  started to figure out. So here we go guys.
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  I kind of just had to give a background.
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  So I said, well, you know, I think that I, I can't be the
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  only one that has gone through this and not known what is going
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  on with them and autoimmune. Because as I got out, of course
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  we get computers and we start figuring out and I start seeing
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  more doctors and I'm getting older.
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  But I want to, I want people to know that it really messed up my
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  child, my elder wear to where I, I even left school and it, it
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  really I, I missed out on a lot of things in life and I made bad
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  decisions I because I was not, I had a lot of anxiety.
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  I, I just dealt with a lot and I had no one to turn to and I
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  just, that always was a staple with me.
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  I also had a situation that I won't get into with my with my
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  child and I was taking care of his brother that was from
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  another father, not mine. But I was taking care and there
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  was a missing also situation and luckily they were found.
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  So that was something else that really got.
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  So anyway, I decide I'm going to do, I'm going to get into social
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  media. And my purpose was never to be
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  like social media famous. I was in my early, late 30s, I
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  mean, not early 30s, late 30s. And I just said, you know, if
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  all's I do is bring people together that are going through
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  something because I just remember feeling alone and I
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  just knew there needed to be awareness.
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  So at this time there was not TikTok, there was not there was
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  like there was YouTube. And so there was a platform you
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  now, which was strictly live streaming.
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  A lot of big Youtubers actually started on you.
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  They've been around 13 years now, I believe a lot of
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  Youtubers have started from there.
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  So some have heard of it, some have it and I've heard of it.
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  Yeah, I know you had. So it's very strange because it
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  is a big, a big platform, but obviously a lot of don't, well,
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  they don't deal with like third parties.
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  They don't have ads. They're it's just them.
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  It's kind of like you wear a lot of hats on there.
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  You're a supporter, you're a creator.
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  So yeah, it's, it's a hard app. It's a hard app to be very
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  successful on, but you can do it.
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  And anyway, so I said, what am I going to do to get people I to
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  like know what I'm doing? I can't be like, Lisa loves
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  lollipops or, you know, like nobody's.
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  It's not going to stand out. How am I going to stand out?
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  I didn't know much about social media.
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  I'm not tech savvy. So I created a name.
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  Conquer thyroid issues. OK, so I made the conquer kind
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  of small. I made the issues kind of big so
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  it could kind of separate and not go all the way together.
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  So when I started it, one, people kind of had like nobody
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  had seen like a name like that. And what I meant by saying there
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  was no TikTok or anything. So people that I've seen raising
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  awareness, there was that going on, but it would be like one
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  thing, like breast cancer awareness, children cancer,
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  autism, if they would focus on one thing, which is great, you
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  know, but I thought what autoimmune, There's hundreds of
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  autoimmune things and at the end of the day, pain is pain and
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  having an autoimmune issue, a lot of it all dwindles with
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  same, you know, a lot of the symptoms replicate each other.
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  And, and I just thought if I can help younger people that don't
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  know how they're feeling, I knew that the an aligning rate was
• 25:27
  high. And I can imagine when you don't
• 25:31
  know what's going on with you, you don't, or if you're in
• 25:34
  chronic pain and you don't know how to deal with it, you know, a
• 25:37
  lot was going on with the opiate crisis, things like that.
• 25:42
  So anyway, I joined this app, that's what happens.
• 25:45
  And I put in a lot of work. I can remember starting off with
• 25:50
  one or two people in my chat was strictly live streaming.
• 25:53
  And so that's what brought me there.
• 25:55
  So to move the story faster, after about 8 months, nine
• 26:01
  months, I became partner on there.
• 26:04
  And once I became a partner on there, gradually I had created
• 26:08
  shows, which the search is one of them, but I had create a show
• 26:13
  Heart to Heart, which was something similar like this
• 26:17
  setup, but they had like lupus or they had whatever they were
• 26:24
  going through now. I had people on there that had
• 26:27
  been diagnosed from like black mold.
• 26:28
  Whatever their story was, I had them come and it wasn't a woe is
• 26:34
  me type of thing. It was this is my story.
• 26:38
  They would tell a little bit about their life and then when
• 26:40
  they started having symptoms, what they went through, what
• 26:43
  they're going through now and then what they do like positive
• 26:47
  to try to conquer life. So after partnership, I took the
• 26:52
  thyroid out because I noticed I was getting a lot of different
• 26:56
  autoimmune things and I went to conquer life.
• 27:00
  So at that. So that's what I started doing
• 27:04
  and that started bringing the community together.
• 27:07
  There was many people, they would come on and like that
• 27:10
  gastroparalysis, you know, dealt with brain tumors.
• 27:14
  I mean, you just name it, we had it on there.
• 27:17
  Thyroid issues and I and I have Hashimoto's, which later I found
• 27:22
  out is which is the autoimmune disease that causes
• 27:26
  hypothyroidism, kind of like grave disease is the opposite,
• 27:29
  yeah. My mom and my mom and grandma
• 27:33
  and aunt have Graves' disease, right?
• 27:35
  So they're probably like all over the place, can't sleep,
• 27:38
  can't, they're like opposite, you know, of me and I'm, I'm
• 27:42
  like, can't stay awake. So, but that can be very hard.
• 27:47
  Great Graves' disease can be very hard.
• 27:49
  And so anyway, we, I did some, a lot of charity things on there.
• 27:56
  One of my first chairs every day was for the Autism Society.
• 28:00
  Every April. I like to do something big with
• 28:03
  them. And we did it for the May
• 28:05
  Institute. I don't know if you're familiar
• 28:07
  with them. And that was the first one that
• 28:10
  I ever did and it was really great.
• 28:13
  We raised about $700.00, which I just thought that was amazing
• 28:17
  for me. I know people do thousands, but
• 28:19
  I was like, you know, for us to bring the community together and
• 28:22
  we had like entertainment all day and anybody that wanted to
• 28:26
  tell a story, like we had like 15 minute slots for 12 hours and
• 28:30
  people did whatever and entertainment in between from
• 28:33
  the musicians on the platform and it was just really great.
• 28:36
  So through the years I started to really blossom on there and I
• 28:42
  really grew. And when I left I, I had grown
• 28:46
  to about 50,000 followers and I called my people the warriors.
• 28:52
  I still say warriors. So I brought this shirt to show
• 28:57
  you it was when I was alive and we talked about the lupus.
• 29:01
  Remember I said I did a lupus and we sold merch for that.
• 29:05
  And so I said 2019. So this tells you how far we go
• 29:09
  back. So that's 2018.
• 29:11
  So you'll see CTI. Then it was Conquer Thyroid
• 29:14
  Issues, but that's the shirt. We did the butterfly.
• 29:17
  So I found that and I thought, oh I want to show.
• 29:20
  That, you know, I have tested positive for lupus four times,
• 29:25
  but but they say that I don't have it.
• 29:28
  And part of the reason they say I don't have it is because my
• 29:31
  hands don't turn blue when they're cold or whatever.
• 29:35
  Yeah, it's very hard to get a full diagnosis, isn't it?
• 29:38
  Yeah. So I they've diagnosed me with
• 29:41
  undifferentiated connective tissue disease, which means they
• 29:45
  don't know what I have. Right issue.
• 29:47
  You're messed up, Lee. Yeah, you're just messed up.
• 29:51
  You're screwed. And that's, and that's how, and
• 29:54
  that's how a lot of us feel because finding out things and
• 29:59
  it's amazing how many people were and, and when you're doing
• 30:05
  things like, like what you're doing and, and having people up
• 30:09
  and telling their story, it takes a long time to build that
• 30:14
  safe space because you know now and, and that's why.
• 30:20
  So I'll, I'll just move forward. So that was my thing.
• 30:23
  I did that for me. You can see on there was 2018
• 30:26
  when we did that one. I, my mom at the time, was
• 30:30
  diagnosed in 2019 with dementia and very early in age, so early
• 30:38
  60s. All right, but it wasn't as bad
• 30:42
  then as we got to about 20/22, she really started starting to
• 30:48
  decline. And also the app had been bought
• 30:52
  by another person. And so things were starting to
• 30:56
  change. And I thought I knew I was going
• 31:00
  to have to start taking care of my mom, coming home, taking care
• 31:04
  of her. I have no other siblings.
• 31:06
  I have a son. He's here at this time.
• 31:08
  He was at NC State. He went to college and so I knew
• 31:14
  I had to figure something out and I could not be full time
• 31:17
  because on there I was full time and that's it takes a lot of
• 31:21
  that to be successful in social media.
• 31:24
  Luckily, I had built a great support group on there and a
• 31:28
  great just family. I am so grateful for them.
• 31:32
  And so I could kind of just go on when I could, but I just I
• 31:37
  had to take a step back now how I got full time.
• 31:41
  I also suffer from chronic pain. It's a horrible life condition,
• 31:44
  no matter how it it's aware of the origin.
• 31:48
  This definitely for his friend. And that's exactly what in doing
• 31:52
  what I start doing, people were finding each other.
• 31:55
  So example like for his friend just said that.
• 31:58
  So I would say everybody make sure you fan for his friend, you
• 32:02
  know, and because people then could find and I say many all
• 32:06
  time MINI like support group something that they relate to.
• 32:11
  Like you have lupus. So somebody here may have lupus
• 32:14
  or just or don't know what they have, but they stay in chronic
• 32:17
  pain and doctors don't do the right testing.
• 32:21
  And so that's what we got out of those and and I literally did
• 32:25
  probably over hundreds of those type of interviews.
• 32:30
  And so it was, it was really a great thing.
• 32:33
  And I did not want to leave social media, but I didn't know.
• 32:36
  So with doing that show, I had a couple of things I did
• 32:41
  everything would intertwine. So I had a self-care night on
• 32:45
  Monday nights where I would do self-care things like mask, mask
• 32:51
  and care things. That just was like me time and I
• 32:54
  would have a guest up and they would do that too.
• 32:57
  And it was a way to just like, don't worry, we didn't have
• 33:01
  filters and stuff like TikTok does or anything.
• 33:04
  So, you know, just don't worry about being up there with masks
• 33:08
  on your face and not having your hair totally done and curled and
• 33:13
  it didn't matter. It's about you and take care of
• 33:15
  you because inside matters than the outside.
• 33:18
  And whose birthday is it? I keep seeing happy.
• 33:23
  Is it one of y'all's birthday? No, it's Dee Dee Blanchard's
• 33:26
  birthday. Oh, OK.
• 33:29
  Have. Yes, definitely.
• 33:30
  Happy birthday. OK, good to see you.
• 33:32
  I thought I'd see something yesterday about that.
• 33:35
  I just thought it was somebody in here.
• 33:36
  I'm sorry. No, no, no.
• 33:39
  You're good. No, it's important to remember
• 33:41
  Dee Dee today. Yeah, I and so now moving
• 33:46
  forward, hey CJ, I see CJ, I'm starting to see people in here
• 33:50
  and CJ is so funny. I like what I see is day because
• 33:55
  it's so funny. So but yeah, I'm glad that
• 34:01
  people are. I haven't been much on social
• 34:05
  media today, so I hope there wasn't, you know, anyway, so OK,
• 34:12
  so I had things like that. I also you couldn't constantly
• 34:16
  just do serious stuff, you know, you had to break away and have
• 34:18
  fun. So I'd have game night on Friday
• 34:20
  nights. I so I had a good schedule.
• 34:23
  Thursday night I did a show called The Search, which is what
• 34:26
  I brought here, but I started it was called The Search.
• 34:29
  The first thing I ever really covered was when Valo started
• 34:35
  the Glory Valo, all that and the kids then still hadn't even
• 34:38
  found. And there was a woman on here,
• 34:42
  last name was Rainy, and she was really big into this story.
• 34:48
  And she actually, one of my friends from you now knew her on
• 34:53
  here. And so Miss Rainey came over.
• 34:56
  I shouldn't say it. We're about the same age.
• 34:58
  And fortunately she passed away. She was really big on finding
• 35:04
  these children. That was her focus.
• 35:07
  They, you know, they were missing.
• 35:08
  And so Jen had said, this is the first time we're ever kind of
• 35:13
  doing a, a true crime type of thing.
• 35:18
  And we would appreciate, since you're so familiar with this
• 35:21
  story, to kind of be there because we wanted to make sure
• 35:23
  everything was factual. We've done a lot of research.
• 35:26
  And so she came over and, and she really praised what how how
• 35:32
  we did it, what we did. And it made me feel good because
• 35:35
  she was really good over here, what she did and and in fact,
• 35:41
  she was what that's why some people may know who I'm talking
• 35:44
  about. So she was one that really
• 35:46
  covered. And this is so strange because
• 35:48
  her focus was finding those children and she passed away
• 35:53
  unexpectedly just and I don't know the fool, but I know it was
• 35:57
  unexpected and literally within days of the of her passing away,
• 36:03
  they found them. And I always just like gives me
• 36:06
  goosebumps. Like she really because she was
• 36:09
  determined to help find those children and it was just so.
• 36:14
  But anyway, so with the search, what I wanted to do, because
• 36:19
  where Conquer Life was going, I wanted somehow to get either
• 36:25
  either a, the nonprofit foundation going to where I can
• 36:30
  help others. And I had decided that whatever
• 36:34
  I was going to do at that time, I was going to support the
• 36:38
  missing people families with the searches.
• 36:41
  Because what people don't realize is are people realize,
• 36:44
  but they don't want to think about it.
• 36:46
  Someone's child goes missing. Like you can't even function.
• 36:49
  You can't work, you can't. And I know in some cases
• 36:53
  communities will help, but guess what?
• 36:55
  There's a lot that doesn't get any recognition and the only one
• 36:58
  that knows is your parents or your friends, close friends and
• 37:02
  the next door neighbor. There's no media high girls
• 37:05
  driving a bit. This is fine.
• 37:11
  Hey, Jerry. Nice seeing you.
• 37:13
  I hope so. Classify is that?
• 37:16
  Yeah. Yeah, me neither.
• 37:19
  I. Don't think we are, no.
• 37:22
  I will say I've done, I have done some Jeb channels, I mean
• 37:27
  Jeb confrontation, but I really on that angle, like I said
• 37:32
  before, I don't care about the outfit of the day.
• 37:35
  I did something like hybristophilia.
• 37:37
  I talked about that, which is why it's kind of the Bonnie and
• 37:40
  Clyde syndrome of why people. So I kind of analyzed Ken and
• 37:44
  Ryan, like, why would you write Earth to begin with?
• 37:48
  So I did something like that. I have had a couple little rants
• 37:52
  where it's like, this is enough, you know.
• 37:55
  And so I, when I did talk about it, I really tried to focus on
• 38:00
  something that made a difference, not be just another
• 38:03
  echo chamber, you know? But anyway, so that was what
• 38:08
  that was my passion. That was what I wanted to do
• 38:10
  when I had to step back and realize that I'm going to have
• 38:14
  to step back in social media, which is 1 going to cut into my
• 38:18
  income. So getting a, a nonprofit now
• 38:21
  was kind of not in the picture. So what was I going to do?
• 38:27
  I did not know how to edit well, and I knew that I wasn't going
• 38:32
  any further on that app because I had just kind of tapped out on
• 38:35
  it. I was I had moved.
• 38:37
  I had gathered as much as I could on there.
• 38:40
  They weren't going any further. They're kind of stagnant.
• 38:43
  And if anything now they've gone down and I'm that's just the
• 38:46
  honest truth and that happens that they've had to run and
• 38:49
  that's it. So I had a friend that said,
• 38:53
  least I know that you need help with editing and her name is
• 38:57
  Trisha and she was also on the platform.
• 39:00
  And she said, and I know you really want to do missing people
• 39:04
  in unsolved crimes because I wanted to focus on people that
• 39:08
  didn't have a voice where it all stemmed from the very beginning
• 39:12
  when I started with help and, and things like that.
• 39:15
  And I still enjoy raising awareness on things that people
• 39:19
  are not familiar with. And that is the hardest thing
• 39:23
  because social media is about trending and far as any kind of
• 39:28
  success, when you say success, if you want to make financial
• 39:33
  gain, if you want to really stand out, it's very hard to
• 39:37
  push through with you. And that's that's why awareness
• 39:40
  work and stuff is a lot of charities is all volunteer
• 39:43
  because if you're in it for the money, a lot of times the
• 39:46
  passion is not there. So you got to have you got to
• 39:49
  have the passion to do this. And so she's I said, why don't
• 39:55
  we do this? I want to do instead of worried.
• 39:59
  So fact of trying to fund and help that way I can at least
• 40:04
  share stories of people that don't have a large like media,
• 40:10
  like they haven't been like where everybody's talking about
• 40:12
  the same person, you know? And so she said, I will help you
• 40:18
  edit so that you can do it. And I said, OK, we'll do one
• 40:22
  show a week. And I can manage that and take
• 40:27
  care of my mom. And so at the end of 2023 is
• 40:32
  when we started and I did one week over here and you know, my
• 40:40
  goal was of course to get partnered.
• 40:43
  And I, you know, I didn't know what that looked like.
• 40:45
  And I definitely seen that it was hard pushing missing
• 40:51
  persons, but I, you know, I was every Thursday night I did at
• 40:54
  8:00, which I found that I was building.
• 40:57
  So some would do all right. I never had a big viral one or
• 41:01
  anything like that. It took me a lot longer I to
• 41:05
  get, I, I seem to get to the 500 subscribers in the 3000 hours
• 41:11
  kind of quick. And then it seemed like I took a
• 41:13
  dive after that. But what I noticed is when the
• 41:18
  Gypsy stuff came out, that is when everything changed in the
• 41:22
  true crime community, which is why I just made this video and
• 41:26
  I've gone over my head. If I explained it well enough, I
• 41:30
  got because what stiffed me to do it was I got excited that
• 41:33
  America's Most Wanted is now focusing on missing as well.
• 41:38
  And the only way we seem to get things trending more and getting
• 41:42
  out as if mainstream is doing it.
• 41:45
  But if anybody will do it, like I'm happy, I'm happy, anybody
• 41:49
  will do it. So anyway, so I started doing so
• 41:54
  I focused on. So that's what we did the search
• 41:57
  with Lisa. I named my channel that
• 42:00
  sometimes I kind of think should I have stayed on a different
• 42:04
  channel And because I still do some awareness like I did crime
• 42:09
  and autism. I mean, it could still go into
• 42:11
  true crime, but I also just started.
• 42:13
  So I started just doing different playlists.
• 42:15
  Also Dementia with my mom drama sales, which I hate, but the
• 42:20
  more drama creators put into the content, the more their channel
• 42:23
  grows. I'm one of the little channels
• 42:25
  that cover true crime and I try to cover all missing persons.
• 42:29
  Dippy See that's what and see, that's what I say.
• 42:32
  Follow Dippy It seems that's what we need, you know.
• 42:36
  And so that was kind of my, my thing was people that have
• 42:40
  already 100,000 subscribers, 150,000 subscribers, right?
• 42:47
  Because those people are who need us.
• 42:49
  That's who needs us, Debbie, you know, we can do ones that
• 42:53
  everybody's doing. But like, are we, there's so
• 42:58
  many. You literally, if you have a
• 43:00
  problem like finding a case and say, well, how do you, if you're
• 43:03
  like new to this? Yes, that's what I was going to
• 43:07
  say. I was getting ready to save the
• 43:08
  Charlie project. That's about Michelle Dean.
• 43:11
  Yes, great. Keep that up.
• 43:13
  Yeah. Michelle Crawford is actually
• 43:14
  somebody that I knew in elementary school and then I
• 43:20
  also went to high school with her and she went missing in 1999
• 43:26
  and has never been seen. And she actually went missing
• 43:30
  from the apartment complex that my sister was living in at the
• 43:35
  time, Montego Bay. And they found her, well at
• 43:39
  least they found her car there with her belongings in the car
• 43:46
  and the car unlocked. And so no one knows anything
• 43:50
  about what happened to her since.
• 43:52
  So I just sensible we were talking about.
• 43:54
  That I wanted. That's all the information they
• 43:58
  really have. It's kind of like.
• 44:00
  So here's the details of the disappearance.
• 44:03
  Crawford was last seen in Lawton, OK at 11:00 PM on June
• 44:06
  8th, 1999. She lived with her parents in
• 44:09
  the 2200 block of NW Lincoln Ave. at the time.
• 44:14
  She told her family members that she planned to go to the movies
• 44:17
  with a friend that evening. She has never been heard from
• 44:19
  again. Crawford's parents found her
• 44:21
  Gray 4 door 1986 Honda Accord parked crookedly in the 1100
• 44:26
  block of of East Gore Blvd. between the Best Western Hotel
• 44:30
  and the Montego Bay Apartments on June 13th.
• 44:33
  Her purse and other belongings were in the back seat of the car
• 44:37
  and all the doors were locked except the front driver's side
• 44:40
  door. There was no signs of her at the
• 44:43
  scene. Crawford had only two close
• 44:45
  friends, according to her parents, and neither of them had
• 44:48
  plans to go with her to the movies that night of her
• 44:50
  disappearance. Since she went missing, her bank
• 44:54
  account has not been touched. Crawford was a junior at Cameron
• 44:58
  University in 1999. She majored in English and made
• 45:02
  good grades and had earned a full scholarship for the next
• 45:06
  semester of school. She was also employed part time
• 45:09
  at Gibson's Department Store in Lawton.
• 45:11
  Her family described her as generous, responsible, hard
• 45:14
  working person, and it is uncharacteristic for her to
• 45:18
  leave without warning. There's a theory that Crawford's
• 45:21
  remains are buried on privately owned land in the Mountain View,
• 45:24
  Oklahoma area. Foul play is suspected in her
• 45:27
  case, which remains unsolved. And yeah, that's a, that's a bad
• 45:32
  area over in that Mountain View area.
• 45:35
  Said it was last updated in July of 2018.
• 45:40
  Yeah, and I have actually done a FOIA on Michelle's case and all
• 45:46
  they have is updates because I guess they had a flood at the
• 45:50
  Lawton Police Department. Wow, that's really.
• 45:54
  All the. Yeah, yeah.
• 45:57
  So, you know, I don't know what was destroyed.
• 46:00
  I don't know. But when I asked for
• 46:03
  information, all they could supply me was a basically a
• 46:08
  sheet that had updates over the years.
• 46:11
  Wow. That's really unfortunate.
• 46:13
  Yeah. And I have tried to reach out to
• 46:15
  her dad. I have tried for years now,
• 46:19
  tried to reach out to him to see, you know, if I could talk
• 46:23
  to him, but unfortunately he has never responded.
• 46:27
  So when I did ask the woman from the Oklahoma Cold Case
• 46:34
  Foundation that we're going to be talking to, I wanted her to
• 46:39
  see if she had any information on Michelle.
• 46:42
  So that was just one, one thing that, you know, it's very
• 46:48
  important to me. Michelle is very important to
• 46:50
  me. We definitely has.
• 46:53
  So have you done anything like always said, you got tried to
• 46:57
  get the Foyas? I I mean she's definitely that
• 47:01
  somebody you know can definitely cover and that's exactly what I
• 47:04
  was getting ready to say. If people that are not familiar
• 47:08
  and they're like that's something I could do.
• 47:11
  You can do it faceless. You can go right on Charlie's
• 47:14
  project. Just scroll, hit one.
• 47:17
  I will say some barely have any information so you can do like
• 47:24
  like 5 in once I've seen some people do that when they pick
• 47:28
  like 5 cases it because some barely have any information, but
• 47:32
  it doesn't matter and you can just like put this out there and
• 47:36
  you can be faceless. Put that out there.
• 47:38
  Just read their information, give them at least a couple
• 47:42
  minutes where people can see, then move to the next case you
• 47:46
  know and. So this is the one true crime
• 47:54
  case that I have been the most passionate about.
• 47:58
  Oren and Orson West OR also known as Classic and sincere
• 48:02
  because that was their birth names, but their adoptive
• 48:05
  parents changed their name. That was third names, classic
• 48:08
  and sincere. Yeah, beautiful.
• 48:13
  Two beautiful. Little boys, yeah.
• 48:15
  And their parents are in prison for their death, but they have
• 48:18
  never been found. So I just always like to bring
• 48:24
  people's attention to them because, you know, we have no
• 48:27
  idea where these boys are. Theories are that they're in the
• 48:32
  dump, but we don't know. And why won't these parents
• 48:36
  just, you know what, what you know, you're in prison.
• 48:41
  What do you have to lose to say? I mean, I mean, unless they're
• 48:46
  going still on we didn't do it thing.
• 48:48
  You know, some will just go to their grave denying whether
• 48:52
  they're serving life or whatever they.
• 48:55
  Let's see. I don't know how.
• 48:59
  Let's see how long they've been or how long they've.
• 49:03
  So they were. Was it like a wrongful death or?
• 49:08
  Let's see. They got charged with.
• 49:12
  So we've got. Really heartbreaking.
• 49:17
  So they were babies. Adoptive parents sentenced for
• 49:21
  2020 murder of still missing 4 year old boy and abuse of his
• 49:25
  younger brother. A California couple will likely
• 49:29
  spend decades in prison for murdering one of their young
• 49:32
  adoptive sons and seriously abusing another, though the
• 49:35
  second boy is also presumed dead and law enforcement insist the
• 49:40
  defendants are responsible for his death as well. 15 years plus
• 49:46
  four years, That doesn't sound like decades to me.
• 49:48
  That sounds like a singular decade.
• 49:50
  And and that's what deserves 75% of your sentence.
• 49:56
  And these two boys were taken away from their mother because
• 50:00
  their mother tested positive for well, OK, so initially they were
• 50:06
  taken away because one of the boys, I believe it was boring,
• 50:11
  but I'm not sure. One of them broke their leg, I
• 50:15
  believe. And they, they were taken to the
• 50:22
  hospital. They broke their leg while the
• 50:24
  mother was at work And they, the mother took them in him into the
• 50:34
  hospital to get it checked out. It was broken and then they took
• 50:39
  her, they took the kids away from her, put them in foster
• 50:43
  care, and then she ended up failing a drug test for
• 50:50
  marijuana and they ended up taking her parental whites
• 50:55
  rights away and basically stole her children from her.
• 51:01
  Oh, his arm. Yeah, probably his arm.
• 51:03
  I couldn't. I couldn't remember, but yeah,
• 51:06
  it's been a while. And so, yeah, it's.
• 51:10
  This is in 2020. Yeah, what?
• 51:12
  State was this. In this was in.
• 51:14
  Bakersfield because he broke his arm and the mother tested
• 51:17
  positive. Yeah, basically stolen from her.
• 51:22
  Yeah. And it was in Bakersfield, CA.
• 51:26
  California California weeds legal How are you going to take
• 51:30
  away your kids? I was like.
• 51:32
  Yeah, she had like a card or something too.
• 51:35
  I don't even know. It was it was a weird situation.
• 51:38
  And I actually, I actually want to.
• 51:44
  I don't know what that is, but yeah.
• 51:47
  So it was a weird situation. And they had six kids, I
• 51:55
  believe. And I think two of them were
• 51:58
  their natural kids and then the rest were adopted.
• 52:02
  And it seemed like they were that one of the parents, one of
• 52:10
  the parent adopted parents, parents the, I think Jacqueline
• 52:15
  W, the mother, her mother was in DCF or something like that, you
• 52:21
  know, and within child services and she also adopted kids.
• 52:29
  And so it was kind of like just a family business basically.
• 52:33
  Yeah, because they made money off of doing this too.
• 52:36
  Fostering. Oh, any broken bone?
• 52:39
  Bone in a kid is an automatic CPS referral in California.
• 52:43
  OK. So yeah.
• 52:46
  So yeah, he got. They got taken away and
• 52:50
  eventually no one saw him and people started asking questions.
• 52:55
  And so, yeah. Also for the automatic CPS
• 52:59
  referral, like I'm not saying that's necessarily a bad thing.
• 53:01
  It's probably actually a good thing that they do that.
• 53:04
  It's just, I mean, maybe there's some details that I'm missing
• 53:06
  because clearly I'm not that familiar with the case, but just
• 53:09
  to take someone's children away from them and just over
• 53:15
  marijuana, that's. Ridiculous.
• 53:17
  Yeah. Between the the broken arm and
• 53:20
  the marijuana, Yeah. So it's.
• 53:23
  Rooted in racism. And think about this could
• 53:26
  happen to my son broke his arm when he was 7, you know, and he
• 53:33
  what if they came out to me, you know, I mean, you just he was
• 53:38
  skateboarding and it was a bad break And I I've broken both of
• 53:42
  my arms too, But I mean, look something.
• 53:45
  But the reason I my my friend that helps with editing, she
• 53:51
  she's had a bad experience like this, not with her, but with her
• 53:55
  sister's kids. And they were actually, I don't
• 54:02
  know if I should say it's not, but basically she was put in a
• 54:05
  in a very awkward position from the CPS to where basically it
• 54:10
  was almost a blackmail situation off the records.
• 54:15
  And yes, I mean, so today, and this was years, I mean, she's
• 54:19
  grown up. And so when she, this was when
• 54:21
  she was a kid, nothing recent, but she now today, I mean, does
• 54:28
  not trust at all. I mean at all the the workers,
• 54:33
  just because of what she's experienced, you know?
• 54:37
  CPS is scary. It's extremely scary.
• 54:42
  I am. Not confident in the foster
• 54:45
  homes. They, I mean, unrelated to this
• 54:47
  case, but a lot of times you get a lot worse things happen in the
• 54:50
  foster homes and the homes that they're actually taken from.
• 54:54
  Y'all have never heard of the Sean Doherty case out of
• 54:57
  Virginia like 2 years ago? No, we haven't.
• 54:59
  See see how much there's out there.
• 55:03
  Oh the take care of Maya. Oh, that one is so heart
• 55:08
  wrenching. I It was such a twist on that.
• 55:11
  You haven't seen it. I.
• 55:12
  Don't. Yeah.
• 55:13
  And she suffered from, she suffered from chronic pain
• 55:16
  syndrome, didn't she? Yeah, I I suffer from that as
• 55:21
  well. And not to the extent what?
• 55:23
  A diagnose they just give you when they don't know what's
• 55:26
  wrong with you and they're. Trying to basically.
• 55:27
  Tell you what's in your heads. No, it's not.
• 55:29
  Yeah, well, that's lingering. Or they could not.
• 55:32
  What is it? Is it called malingering?
• 55:33
  No, no, no, no, no. I.
• 55:35
  Can't believe that anyone's lying about that, but I'm just
• 55:38
  saying that's what they normally generally.
• 55:39
  No, so I have tried to get the VA to actually like, figure out
• 55:45
  what's wrong with you. Tell me what chronic pain
• 55:48
  syndrome is. And I actually tried to get
• 55:52
  somebody from the Mayo Clinic to come on to talk about chronic
• 55:56
  pain syndrome, but they said that there wasn't enough
• 56:00
  information or enough knowledgeable information, and
• 56:04
  they also said that there wasn't enough interest.
• 56:08
  Enough interest. We have a opiate pandemic now
• 56:11
  fit non pandemic and there's not enough interest.
• 56:15
  I mean, are you kidding me? And when I was going back about
• 56:19
  the chronic pain, autoimmune diseases, I mean, when my
• 56:23
  thyroid was so out of whack, which it still is today, that
• 56:27
  caused a lot of muscle aches, which can go along with
• 56:32
  fibromyalgia, can be, you know, so many misdiagnosis.
• 56:36
  And so that's why I feel for anybody.
• 56:40
  And it's so frustrating. Like I have now lymphedema and I
• 56:44
  feel like, so now I have a left leg that or it's really more
• 56:48
  down in my ankle and foot area. But I deal now with those issues
• 56:54
  that I feel had they done something correctly earlier, I
• 57:00
  would not be dealing with this now.
• 57:02
  And now it's, you know, that's a whole other topic though, but.
• 57:09
  Well, I mean it's. Very frustrating.
• 57:13
  Yeah, when you have issues that no one can figure out and you've
• 57:17
  gone to specialists and you've gone to all the right places,
• 57:21
  you know, and, and the VA has a really great system of pushing
• 57:27
  your diagnosis off on another doctor.
• 57:29
  They're like, oh, well, this isn't my specialty.
• 57:32
  Oh. Yeah.
• 57:33
  And a primary care definitely will do that.
• 57:36
  It's like, oh, this to everybody.
• 57:37
  Yeah. I mean which that's kind of
• 57:40
  their job. I know the primary is more to do
• 57:42
  referrals, but especially I have found it with autoimmune
• 57:46
  anything, it's always this specialist, that specialist this
• 57:50
  and it's like and then the people with you know, then you
• 57:53
  deal with insurance. A lot of specialists won't take
• 57:56
  certain insurances. I mean, in that, you know, the
• 57:59
  money and it's like you have to find a support group that
• 58:05
  understands and gets you and so that, you know, you can help
• 58:10
  people in those days because there are days that you just
• 58:13
  think why? Why?
• 58:15
  If I have to live like this the rest of my life, people start to
• 58:19
  contemplate that, you know, and we don't want them to do that.
• 58:23
  And and it's hard. Yeah.
• 58:29
  Sorry, I was looking up somebody.
• 58:31
  Geologist Daniel. So he was a geologist?
• 58:35
  Yeah. Daniel Robinson.
• 58:37
  No, I was just looking something up.
• 58:40
  Yeah. Daniel Robinson was a geologist.
• 58:42
  He had one hand. She's gonna.
• 58:44
  Ask I was like. I was noticing it.
• 58:47
  I didn't know if his hand was in his pocket or so that's Oh yeah,
• 58:51
  he had one hand. Yes.
• 58:53
  And Daniel, he was out doing geology work and when when he
• 58:58
  went missing is that. His car that's turned over.
• 59:01
  Yes. And if you actually watch
• 59:05
  America's Most Wanted, the newest episode, they talk about
• 59:09
  that car and how there was an initial impact with something
• 59:14
  and then it was driven another 11 miles and then it was put
• 59:20
  into that ravine. And then somebody tried to start
• 59:23
  the car while it was on its side like that.
• 59:27
  So. And, you know, it could be
• 59:31
  anything from a mental break to cartel to, you know, something
• 59:37
  funky in the desert happening with the US government, you
• 59:40
  know, anything. And that happens.
• 59:44
  And so the next thing I was going to even bring up was one
• 59:48
  other thing is I wanted to touch on trafficking.
• 59:51
  I got interested or really compelled to help with that when
• 59:55
  I got involved in church. And the one thing that there was
• 1:00:00
  a group and I was already doing like true crime things.
• 1:00:07
  And we have a big. Trafficking around our area down
• 1:00:12
  in one of the tourist areas. I'll just say I because I live
• 1:00:15
  actually in North Carolina, South Carolina around Myrtle
• 1:00:18
  Beach area. So if you go to Myrtle Beach
• 1:00:20
  guys, please be careful in those areas.
• 1:00:23
  There is try, you know, try and now it's almost everywhere
• 1:00:27
  unfortunately somewhere in the cities.
• 1:00:29
  But anyway, the object was of course, not to get involved from
• 1:00:33
  the church in on the legal side of it.
• 1:00:37
  But once the people, if they were found the women to or you
• 1:00:41
  know, or children, whatever, to not treat them as as a criminal
• 1:00:48
  because sometimes they're locked up and they're looked at as sex,
• 1:00:52
  you know, sex workers, whatever. And but the object was once that
• 1:00:57
  was to provide them with warmth housing until we can get them
• 1:01:01
  back. Do you do.
• 1:01:04
  Oh, OK, I'm in the beach area is to get them back safe to
• 1:01:10
  somebody or get them on the right track.
• 1:01:13
  That's where the church stepped in.
• 1:01:15
  So that got me really. And I had no idea back then how
• 1:01:20
  big the trafficking was. I had always was watching the
• 1:01:26
  Kendall Ray because she dealt with Thorn and stuff, so she was
• 1:01:30
  kind of into that as well. And it just really that
• 1:01:37
  something just pulled at me with that.
• 1:01:39
  And so that that was my basic focus on here was that was what
• 1:01:43
  it was going to be. And then when the gypsy thing
• 1:01:46
  came out, then I just, you know, like I said, I did some covering
• 1:01:51
  with her, but I like, no, that's, that's not, I felt like
• 1:01:56
  I was losing myself with this and I just had to say there's no
• 1:02:02
  a step to Raleigh and Fayetteville.
• 1:02:03
  I know exactly where you're at because I lived in Fayetteville.
• 1:02:07
  Fort Bragg was Fayetteville. Yeah, I I didn't really
• 1:02:12
  understand how big trafficking was or human slavery, you know,
• 1:02:18
  the modern day slavery. I didn't realize it until I was
• 1:02:21
  30 years old and went to school again and got involved with Rafa
• 1:02:27
  International, which is a trafficking or a help for
• 1:02:34
  trafficking victims, an organization that helps victims
• 1:02:38
  specifically in Cambodia, Thailand and Haiti, and then
• 1:02:44
  they're also out of Missouri, so.
• 1:02:47
  Most trafficking happens with family members or people that,
• 1:02:51
  you know, it's mostly not these big rings that are kind of,
• 1:02:57
  they're not a myth, but they're, I feel like kind of over
• 1:03:00
  exaggerated in the media. But a lot of it, I mean, it's
• 1:03:03
  kind of crazy to think about how you can just drive down the
• 1:03:06
  street and who knows what's going on in any of the homes.
• 1:03:09
  OK, That's a lot more common. Yeah, I went up to Cleveland and
• 1:03:13
  I went down to the and this is that was well, I went to
• 1:03:18
  Cleveland due to to see someone, but we also wanted to start
• 1:03:22
  working on because there was a lot of trafficking and a lot of
• 1:03:25
  missing children in the Cleveland area.
• 1:03:28
  And so while I was there, I went down to where Gina Berry and
• 1:03:33
  Gina or the Jesus everybody was there at the Cleveland house
• 1:03:37
  with others been taken down the actual Rd. as a Muriel of Gina
• 1:03:42
  up there. And I went down that street and
• 1:03:46
  thought there was somebody stuck in a house right here for 10
• 1:03:51
  years. People were stuck girls.
• 1:03:54
  I mean it's and while I was there visiting just through that
• 1:03:57
  week, right in the area we were in, four children went missing,
• 1:04:02
  4 kids went missing just while I was there and I was like, why do
• 1:04:05
  they keep leaving? Like what's going on?
• 1:04:09
  Let's see, I'm going to go yes and I'm definitely going to
• 1:04:16
  follow you Dippy for sure and thank you for.
• 1:04:19
  Joining in. Thank you, Dippy.
• 1:04:21
  What is it? I just said thank you, she said.
• 1:04:24
  She's they said they are going to be sending over Subs.
• 1:04:28
  Oh, that's. Great to join it in today.
• 1:04:32
  So actually we have a missing girl here in Missouri that I
• 1:04:36
  just found out about recently because I found out about a bill
• 1:04:41
  that is being sponsored here in Missouri.
• 1:04:44
  It's Senate Bill 41. And let me actually read it for
• 1:04:50
  you. Let me pull it up.
• 1:04:53
  I should have had it up here but.
• 1:04:54
  Is our state government actually doing something productive, for
• 1:04:57
  one? Yeah, they've actually created a
• 1:04:58
  task force and everything. Cool.
• 1:05:02
  That's like, there's not many things I can give them the
• 1:05:05
  benefit of the doubt on. So what do you think?
• 1:05:08
  We're doing something good. Dear, what the heck is so funny?
• 1:05:16
  I was. Like what?
• 1:05:19
  I heard you say what the heck? And I'm like.
• 1:05:22
  There we go. Hi, welcome in, dear.
• 1:05:25
  What the heck? Yes, nice to meet you or
• 1:05:28
  actually see you. Getting away with nothing with
• 1:05:30
  dear. What the heck, I will tell you.
• 1:05:32
  Right. I love it I.
• 1:05:37
  Will. OK, let's see.
• 1:05:43
  You know what? Actually, so it what it is, it's
• 1:05:49
  Senate Bill 41 in Missouri and it tries to it tries to, you
• 1:05:57
  know, the missing and indigenous women bill that they've been
• 1:06:02
  trying to do, they're doing one for African American girl women
• 1:06:06
  and girls, yeah, missing here in Missouri.
• 1:06:09
  And they've created a task force so that.
• 1:06:13
  Really surprises me, but. That is huge because that is, I
• 1:06:18
  mean, that is huge because that's something I mentioned in
• 1:06:20
  the last video I just did because there that is definitely
• 1:06:27
  the indigenous women. That's a really big thing and
• 1:06:33
  and, and the black women as well, you know, really any POC
• 1:06:39
  is not out there like they need to be.
• 1:06:42
  And so that's great to hear. Any cases involving minorities
• 1:06:47
  are often times overlooked and looked at as nothing really.
• 1:06:53
  So it's. Right.
• 1:06:54
  We're trying to hear that. We're going to watch this video
• 1:06:57
  and see what it says. You tried to be perfect.
• 1:07:01
  You really? Yeah.
• 1:07:04
  We're not giving them free ads from our channel.
• 1:07:09
  I don't even want to know who it is.
• 1:07:11
  I don't even know Morel behavior health OK.
• 1:07:14
  Yeah, I definitely want to. Urge to contact Columbia Police
• 1:07:21
  A Columbia family is pleading for your help nearly four months
• 1:07:25
  after their teenage daughter disappeared. 15 year old Desiree
• 1:07:29
  Smith has been missing since December.
• 1:07:31
  She's 5 foot 7, about 160 lbs and has black hair and brown
• 1:07:36
  eyes. Our ABC 17's Mitchell Kaminsky
• 1:07:39
  joins us live after speaking with Desiree's grandmother,
• 1:07:42
  Mitchell. This case highlights a larger
• 1:07:44
  statewide and national issue where Black Americans are being
• 1:07:48
  reported missing at disproportionately higher rates.
• 1:07:55
  Megan According to F national FBI data, Black Americans make
• 1:07:58
  up about 14% of the US population, but 37% of all
• 1:08:03
  reported missing people's cases. Younger women in particular are
• 1:08:07
  at much higher risk of being reported as missing.
• 1:08:11
  And because of the state, lawmakers created a new task
• 1:08:14
  force to help address this problem.
• 1:08:18
  Desiree Smith was last seen in Columbia on December 7th.
• 1:08:21
  Her family is now begging for help to track down the teenager
• 1:08:24
  after nearly four months without contact.
• 1:08:27
  Her grandmother, Crystal Watson, says growing up in Columbia's
• 1:08:30
  Rice Rd. neighborhood, an area with a history of violence, may
• 1:08:33
  have had an impact on her. She's a happy girl, you know,
• 1:08:37
  she is really intelligent, you know, she all got all the good
• 1:08:43
  qualities. It's just I feel like her living
• 1:08:46
  in this area also influence her different ways.
• 1:08:51
  Smith's family says they're not just worried, they're frustrated
• 1:08:54
  by what they see as a lack of urgency and media attention.
• 1:08:57
  I feel like, you know, maybe if she was white, you know, it
• 1:09:01
  would have been out there. She is on the child missing
• 1:09:05
  list. You know, if you look it up in
• 1:09:07
  Columbia, she is on there, but it's just not enough attention
• 1:09:11
  to it. Out of 658 adults currently
• 1:09:13
  listed as missing by the State Highway Patrol, 199 are black,
• 1:09:17
  making up just over 30% of all cases, even though African
• 1:09:21
  Americans make up just 11% of the Show Me States population.
• 1:09:25
  That's wild. Among the 250 missing women, 79
• 1:09:28
  are Black, about 31%. To address the crisis, Missouri
• 1:09:32
  lawmakers passed Senate Bill 41, sponsored by Senator Angela
• 1:09:35
  Mosley, creating the Missing and Murdered African American Women
• 1:09:39
  and Girls Task Force. The task force will take a
• 1:09:42
  really hard look at why African American women and girls are an
• 1:09:46
  endangered species, how our systems are falling short and
• 1:09:51
  what we can do to change that. The task force is modeled after
• 1:09:55
  a similar bill in Minnesota, and we'll study how police and media
• 1:09:58
  respond to missing person cases and recommend ways to better
• 1:10:01
  protect vulnerable communities. Of course, you run into those
• 1:10:04
  who asked that question of why focus on African American women
• 1:10:09
  and girls. There are some colleagues that
• 1:10:11
  have backgrounds in law enforcement and they did see the
• 1:10:15
  urgency of it and tried to help me speak with other colleagues
• 1:10:19
  to let them know that this is. Important.
• 1:10:22
  Columbia police records show since 1998, sixteen black women
• 1:10:26
  have been killed in homicides, with half those deaths happening
• 1:10:29
  in the last decade. Mosley tells me that that task
• 1:10:35
  force is going to be made-up of about 10 people, will be
• 1:10:37
  appointed by State House and Senate leaders as well as the
• 1:10:40
  Department of Public Safety. Reporting live in Columbia.
• 1:10:43
  Mitch Kaminski, ABC 17 News. Mitchell, thank you.
• 1:10:47
  If you have any information about Desiree Smith's
• 1:10:49
  whereabouts, you are urged to contact Columbia police after
• 1:10:54
  their teenage daughter disappeared.
• 1:10:56
  Well, I'd like to say rare Missouri W, especially on the
• 1:11:00
  front for women, I'd like to hope that this is something that
• 1:11:05
  doesn't have any kind of ulterior motive.
• 1:11:07
  And that's something that they actually take seriously because
• 1:11:10
  it is something that deserves to be taken seriously.
• 1:11:12
  And I know a lot of times they do things for show and I'm just
• 1:11:15
  really hoping that's not what it is, especially since Missouri
• 1:11:18
  government is actively working on taking away rights for women
• 1:11:22
  that we voted for. So I'm just really, really
• 1:11:25
  hoping that this leads to people coming home and being safe and
• 1:11:31
  bound and justice being brought to victims of a lot of really
• 1:11:35
  terrible crimes. Yeah.
• 1:11:38
  And I actually reached out, Yeah, I reached out to Senator
• 1:11:42
  Mosley. And so hopefully she will come
• 1:11:45
  on and talk to us. I'd like.
• 1:11:48
  To. Yeah, I'd like to get Senator or
• 1:11:52
  Representative Kimberly Collins on as well.
• 1:11:55
  They're both from Saint Louis and they both are doing great
• 1:11:59
  things in our government. And so I would really love for
• 1:12:02
  them to succeed in everything that they're doing because they
• 1:12:07
  genuinely care about our our state.
• 1:12:09
  I've. Never heard of where she was at
• 1:12:12
  in Columbia it's I had. Neither Rice Rd.
• 1:12:15
  But there's been a lot of issues in Columbia recently.
• 1:12:18
  There's been like several shootings.
• 1:12:20
  I want to say there's been like at least 5 within the last
• 1:12:22
  couple months, like, and it's been crazy.
• 1:12:25
  It's been crazy over there. So, yeah, so basically, you
• 1:12:30
  know, there's, there's so many, there's so many missing people
• 1:12:34
  and. So many.
• 1:12:36
  And there are so many YouTube channels and TikTok channel
• 1:12:41
  pages pages I. Guess.
• 1:12:46
  You know, and there's plenty of people to highlight.
• 1:12:52
  And, and I want to say this about the Gypsy.
• 1:12:56
  I there are Gypsy, you know, channels, that's all that they,
• 1:13:01
  they do. And I feel what's happened is
• 1:13:05
  that has crossed over true crime.
• 1:13:08
  So what's happened is they did gyp T and started using it.
• 1:13:13
  You know, hashtags algorithm is everything.
• 1:13:16
  And because they don't know if you have the computer system
• 1:13:19
  does not know if you have a good video or not.
• 1:13:21
  They just know what the algorithm is.
• 1:13:23
  I mean, they just know the action the video is getting what
• 1:13:27
  the hashtags are what's and OK, we are over saturated with the
• 1:13:34
  gyp T OK, we really are. And so when I made my video, you
• 1:13:39
  know, it was mainly towards the true crime.
• 1:13:43
  If you were a gyp T channel really did not that was it
• 1:13:49
  really for you because you're bastion just about gypsy and
• 1:13:52
  that's it. But if you were somebody that
• 1:13:54
  came here for true crime, you know there's nothing wrong.
• 1:13:59
  I've covered some things with her, but unfortunately the newer
• 1:14:04
  generation that now that the turnover of, oh God, I don't
• 1:14:08
  #gypsy, right. Exactly.
• 1:14:15
  The turnover, the pre Gypsy, we had a lot more.
• 1:14:20
  I felt variety in passion, in true crime and unfortunately
• 1:14:26
  what I'm seeing and everywhere, and I did show my video
• 1:14:31
  everywhere, Gypsy this, gypsy that.
• 1:14:34
  And I just always think, you know, what if we had this much
• 1:14:39
  focus on unsolved missing cases, trafficking, whatever, could you
• 1:14:47
  imagine what we could accomplish?
• 1:14:49
  You know, and, and I'm not saying that, you know, there's
• 1:14:52
  people that are very big about this, but I'm going to, I'm
• 1:14:55
  going to be honest, we are now a year and a half of her being
• 1:14:58
  out. She's almost off parole, OK.
• 1:15:01
  And I, and I honestly feel there is a lot it's for clicks and
• 1:15:05
  views and whatever, whatever their their story is.
• 1:15:09
  And there's some that are very passionate and have been on this
• 1:15:12
  from day one. You know, there's some that put
• 1:15:15
  a lot of work into one thing and and I get that.
• 1:15:18
  And so that's their their thing and there's nothing wrong with
• 1:15:21
  that at all. But it's almost like I was
• 1:15:25
  speaking. If you're just using the true
• 1:15:27
  crime community to get to and using gypsy to get, you know,
• 1:15:31
  you're hurting us, you're hurting the true crime community
• 1:15:35
  by just being here doing that. And because if one thing I've
• 1:15:40
  noticed and looked around when I was researching was large,
• 1:15:44
  larger ones that have 100,500 thousand you, they don't cover
• 1:15:48
  Gypsy. They don't because they have
• 1:15:51
  built a community of their own. So whatever really they push
• 1:15:55
  out, they can push it out because they have that.
• 1:15:58
  And that's great because they've worked hard to get that.
• 1:16:01
  And so I encourage them, you know, hey, just put out a
• 1:16:05
  missing person every once in a while.
• 1:16:07
  You have traction. You know, I don't want to take
• 1:16:10
  away whatever their passion is, but if they're in true crime,
• 1:16:13
  and I'm sure that they do, but I heard from Derek Lavasser, who
• 1:16:21
  is on the America's Most Wanted before he even started this.
• 1:16:25
  People were asking him because he did breaking homicide with
• 1:16:28
  A&E. And, and I think I said this to
• 1:16:31
  you yesterday that it always stuck with me when I heard him
• 1:16:35
  say this, that somebody asked him was, was he going to do I
• 1:16:39
  think a third season of breaking homicide?
• 1:16:41
  And that is when he said that the marketing teams and people
• 1:16:47
  from A&E basically, and probably other channels, but that Missing
• 1:16:54
  and Unsolved are may are the least likely to watch because
• 1:17:02
  just for whatever people like to see the endings people, whatever
• 1:17:06
  it is, there's not a lot of drama to it.
• 1:17:09
  It's sometimes just sad. There's just different reasons
• 1:17:12
  into it. So I think that was why they
• 1:17:15
  kind of didn't renew and he was going different avenues.
• 1:17:18
  So when he was asked to be involved with America's Most
• 1:17:20
  Wanted. And now they're doing Missing as
• 1:17:23
  well, not just catch a fugitive. He was very excited about that.
• 1:17:29
  And he said, I have been complaining and saying, you
• 1:17:32
  know, and basically they're doing what we're not doing.
• 1:17:36
  We're not, you know, we stopped doing on social media.
• 1:17:39
  And so I'm hoping with America's Most Wanted doing more missing,
• 1:17:44
  you know, but once again, don't just grab the ones that they're
• 1:17:48
  doing on missing. Like let them do that.
• 1:17:51
  Push it out if you want, but then like grab one of your own
• 1:17:55
  and if you ever need help finding something like you just
• 1:17:57
  showed with Charlie Project, go through, just grab one.
• 1:18:02
  I mean, there's tons to grab from.
• 1:18:04
  It's really, it's really not hard at all, you know, to find
• 1:18:08
  something like that or focus like on your state or whatever.
• 1:18:12
  Maybe you slump around you. Yeah, I mean.
• 1:18:17
  I love that you have all these ready here.
• 1:18:20
  So prepared. I didn't know if I was just, I
• 1:18:23
  didn't know what it was exactly going to be today.
• 1:18:25
  So I'm so confided that you have all this because.
• 1:18:28
  Yeah. And this is Summer Wells.
• 1:18:31
  She's been missing for quite a long time.
• 1:18:33
  I think about 2021 or something like that, Yeah.
• 1:18:39
  Also, I don't know, I don't really want to shame any
• 1:18:42
  creators or anything for like the way that they choose to
• 1:18:44
  cover things because some things I just don't agree with and true
• 1:18:47
  crime generally speaking. I feel like a lot of it can just
• 1:18:49
  be kind of icky and self-serving and I don't know, Sometimes I
• 1:18:53
  have a problem covering certain things, then other times I feel
• 1:18:56
  like it's necessary, and sometimes I've even gotten
• 1:18:58
  caught up in the drama aspects of certain things.
• 1:19:04
  You. Know it's yeah, it could be a
• 1:19:07
  natural human reaction. I guess we just have to kind of
• 1:19:09
  try and correct ourselves if we see ourselves doing certain
• 1:19:11
  things. But, you know, there are some
• 1:19:14
  cases that I find interesting or that I follow, but I'm realizing
• 1:19:17
  I need to step back and not like really try to cover anything
• 1:19:19
  unless I feel like I have like, and if I have something to add
• 1:19:24
  to it. Because I mean, there's so many
• 1:19:26
  other people that are saying so many things, unless I have
• 1:19:29
  something specific or new or not that it has to be breaking news
• 1:19:32
  or anything that, you know, is groundbreaking.
• 1:19:35
  I just, you know, that's what I've been thinking lately.
• 1:19:38
  But I agree with you, Laura. I.
• 1:19:41
  Just kind of, I just kind of vibe out if you can't.
• 1:19:43
  I agree with you. This is the thing, even with
• 1:19:46
  summer Wales, which is a great example, you have some that are
• 1:19:50
  so passionate and are doing it and then honestly, you just have
• 1:19:55
  people that do things that trend and it's a it's a money grab.
• 1:19:58
  Yeah. And it's like, it's such like,
• 1:20:00
  OK, well, technically you getting it out, if you can get
• 1:20:03
  it out, think that's a positive because people are seeing it.
• 1:20:08
  But the same. I don't know it, it you're
• 1:20:10
  right. It's such a fine line of, you
• 1:20:13
  know, we can't go through every single person is like, do you
• 1:20:16
  really care? You doing this just for money?
• 1:20:18
  You know, I mean so it it it can be and.
• 1:20:24
  There's Asia degree. I did Asia, I've done 2 on her
• 1:20:29
  right now my thing because she's from here in Shelby, NC, so
• 1:20:33
  she's like. No, because.
• 1:20:35
  It happened on Valentine's Day. Yeah, Asia's story is so
• 1:20:40
  heartbreaking because she went missing.
• 1:20:43
  She left her house in the middle of the night to meet somebody or
• 1:20:47
  something. And here recently there's been
• 1:20:51
  some updates. Many people have covered that,
• 1:20:55
  so just look up. One of I don't know if there's
• 1:21:00
  one last one was when they were starting to put together who,
• 1:21:07
  who was, I can't think of their names right now, but they they
• 1:21:10
  were starting to kind of figure out and I believe 1 is already
• 1:21:15
  deceased, kind of like who now it was involved.
• 1:21:19
  So that was kind of the last update that I've looked.
• 1:21:23
  She was one of my first. I did on you now too.
• 1:21:26
  And then I did. I did it again here twice.
• 1:21:30
  Lena OR. Lena, the Asia degree.
• 1:21:34
  OK, yeah, Lena went missing from a a park in her apartment
• 1:21:41
  complex. Her mother went to go do
• 1:21:43
  something and she was actually a refugee from Afghanistan and so
• 1:21:51
  she went missing. Oh, and it makes you so sad
• 1:21:53
  because I know right now of all times, that's not going to be
• 1:21:55
  taken as seriously as it needs. To be, yeah.
• 1:21:58
  Right. Wow.
• 1:22:04
  This is the FBI. Any of these faces?
• 1:22:07
  Yeah, this is the FBI missing persons list.
• 1:22:13
  Wow. Look at that.
• 1:22:16
  I mean you look and see there is no discrimination on age looks.
• 1:22:23
  I mean, there's no look. We have one here, Ella Mae
• 1:22:26
  Begay, look at her age, compare. We have children.
• 1:22:30
  It's all ranges. Nobody is off limits.
• 1:22:36
  Yeah. And there can be varying reasons
• 1:22:38
  why. Oh, I did the Kyron horman.
• 1:22:41
  Oh yeah, and he went missing from his elementary school,
• 1:22:44
  correct? Yes, he, his mother took him to
• 1:22:52
  because it was a different type of day, because he had a science
• 1:22:55
  project. And so when he was done with
• 1:22:59
  that, she took him into the science project and then.
• 1:23:04
  The science fair, Yeah. Or the science fair?
• 1:23:06
  What? I say science, right?
• 1:23:06
  Yeah. The science fair, Yeah.
• 1:23:09
  And very, very SUS. Amy Lynn Bradley, I believe I've
• 1:23:15
  talked about too. I recognize face.
• 1:23:18
  Is that the one that was on the cruise ship?
• 1:23:20
  Yeah, Tara Calico. She's the one that it must.
• 1:23:24
  Be gone for a while. She has been, and I think she
• 1:23:28
  was the one where there was a Polaroid found in a parking lot
• 1:23:33
  of a girl and a boy tied up and, and they thought that it was
• 1:23:39
  her, but they never had any, you know, proof or anything like
• 1:23:46
  that. Wow.
• 1:23:50
  So yeah, there's, I mean, tons. What about this Maria Lopez?
• 1:23:55
  I am always curious when I see older ones how?
• 1:23:58
  Like how did this happen? Oh, there's a gun.
• 1:24:08
  OK, Oh, let's see what it says. It'll work for me.
• 1:24:16
  OK, so. So she's born at 59 one 1000.
• 1:24:28
  I think really has any information.
• 1:24:30
  She was kidnapped from her residence in Pueblo Nuevo,
• 1:24:35
  Mexico. So it happened to Mexico 3, OK.
• 1:24:41
  At the field office is out of LA though.
• 1:24:46
  That's so sad. I know my son's down in Cancun
• 1:24:50
  right now with his girlfriend and I'm like, do not leave each
• 1:24:55
  other's side please. Like I really, I'm like, why are
• 1:25:00
  you going out of the country, son?
• 1:25:02
  I like to be independent and go do anything and go and do things
• 1:25:06
  on my own, but it's like so scary.
• 1:25:11
  Hey Amy, Bear woman radios in here.
• 1:25:15
  Hey, Amy, good to see you. Thanks for joining us.
• 1:25:20
  So this is. Some of the missing persons on
• 1:25:23
  the FBI case and was that just the end of the first page or was
• 1:25:26
  at the? End of No that.
• 1:25:27
  Was. No, it was just 120 people.
• 1:25:30
  That's. The only those are not the only
• 1:25:33
  people that are missing. One out of 120 results.
• 1:25:37
  Yeah, it has to. Be Are those just the ones they
• 1:25:38
  deem? This is just the FBI.
• 1:25:42
  This is the FBI missing persons list.
• 1:25:44
  So. Yeah, yeah, the Charlie project
• 1:25:47
  is humongous. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:25:51
  So those are just a few of the missing people that.
• 1:25:56
  Do you know that look Sebastian Rogers they have up there now?
• 1:26:02
  Do we know what gets someone from Charlie Project to FBI?
• 1:26:08
  No, I have no idea. That's, you know, what I've
• 1:26:11
  never really questioned like, I guess just more media, more I, I
• 1:26:16
  don't know, I, I, yeah, I wonder, I wonder what gets them
• 1:26:22
  to the FBI list. That's something I'll have to
• 1:26:25
  research or look up. Hold on, I'm trying right now.
• 1:26:33
  I remember hearing about the Sebastian Rogers and I just did
• 1:26:38
  a overview of the Natalia situation.
• 1:26:50
  I have a hard time with. That's a hard case there.
• 1:26:53
  So I, I just kind of did an overview.
• 1:26:55
  I haven't released it yet, but it intrigued me through, you
• 1:27:00
  know, again, with adoptions and Buster and all that.
• 1:27:04
  That is why, I mean, I know that one's been kind of trending, but
• 1:27:07
  I actually, I have not read a whole lot into it.
• 1:27:11
  So I kind of went in it with my own thoughts, to be honest with
• 1:27:16
  you. And yeah.
• 1:27:19
  Yeah, at first I thought that she was an adult, and then I was
• 1:27:23
  like, no, she's not an adult. Yeah.
• 1:27:27
  OK, so it says the Charlie project serves as a publicity
• 1:27:31
  vehicle and clearing House of information for missing persons.
• 1:27:35
  It attempts to catalog as much information as possible about as
• 1:27:39
  many cases as possible. It doesn't answer the question.
• 1:27:42
  I know, but I was just reading about what the Charlie Project
• 1:27:45
  does, and then I was going to read about the FBI.
• 1:27:48
  So yeah. So let's see what the FBI
• 1:27:51
  missing persons list you. Can just click tab.
• 1:27:58
  Never mind, just keep going. You're good.
• 1:28:02
  Nope. Nope, you're too late.
• 1:28:03
  Oh, OK, Nope, you're fine. OK, it's just telling you how to
• 1:28:10
  here. Just keep talking.
• 1:28:11
  I'll I'll do my own. OK, Laura's going to Google it.
• 1:28:15
  OK, So yeah, I don't know what the qualifications are, but it
• 1:28:20
  looks like maybe the Charlie Project is just where they
• 1:28:26
  showcase all of the missing cases and the FBI is just the
• 1:28:32
  most hope high profile. OK.
• 1:28:35
  I would assume. And so I don't know if people
• 1:28:41
  know that know this, that are in here or in general.
• 1:28:45
  As I started doing these cases, you know, I learned a lot about
• 1:28:49
  like the laws. And so when I started covering
• 1:28:52
  like some of the ingenious and doing some of the tribes, you
• 1:28:57
  know, when they would go missing, they the laws, which
• 1:29:03
  this is where it's very tricky because from what I understand.
• 1:29:07
  So they have like their own like their chief and their rules.
• 1:29:11
  And I believe that the police only have so much jurisdiction.
• 1:29:17
  So it's kind of like it skips the police until if it's major
• 1:29:21
  FBI can go in. So it's kind of like it has to
• 1:29:26
  really grab traction. Yeah.
• 1:29:29
  That's involved because you have to almost skip over and that's
• 1:29:33
  almost impossible, you know, to go from from the chief to FBI.
• 1:29:40
  And so, but by the because by the time you do that, if you're
• 1:29:43
  able to look how much time has probably gone by, you know, the
• 1:29:48
  first 48 of course they always say is so important and you're
• 1:29:51
  not going to get that quick to the FBI so.
• 1:29:56
  That is really. Tough.
• 1:29:57
  OK, so I figured out what the difference, or allegedly what
• 1:30:00
  seems the difference between the Charlie Project and the FBI
• 1:30:02
  missing persons list is. So the Charlie Project is a
• 1:30:06
  privately run website that profiles long term missing
• 1:30:09
  persons cases from the United States.
• 1:30:11
  It focuses on cold cases and often those missing for years
• 1:30:15
  and or decades, and it provides A detailed narrative and
• 1:30:18
  descriptions of the circumstances around each
• 1:30:20
  disappearance. While the FBI missing persons
• 1:30:23
  list is an official government database primarily for active
• 1:30:26
  missing persons cases and especially those that are
• 1:30:29
  federally relevant. An example involving children
• 1:30:32
  abductions or crossing state lines, listings tend to be brief
• 1:30:36
  and are used for law enforcement and public awareness.
• 1:30:39
  So everything's just basically saying that a lot of it.
• 1:30:43
  There's very little information on the FBI watch list or not
• 1:30:46
  watch list, the FBI missing persons list, it's just for
• 1:30:49
  general information. It's stuff that people are
• 1:30:51
  actively investigating and paying attention to and they
• 1:30:53
  have a case and I'm assuming a lot of it might be stuff that
• 1:30:57
  could be federally federal in some way.
• 1:31:01
  Well, yeah, yeah, it has to be. Yeah, so that's what it seems
• 1:31:06
  the difference is. And again, these are just people
• 1:31:08
  that are confirmed missing, not the probably thousands, if not
• 1:31:15
  hundreds of thousands who knows, people that are just gone into
• 1:31:19
  the wind, not reported or not cared about or not investigated.
• 1:31:23
  And it's just, it's crazy. It's crazy, crazy stuff.
• 1:31:26
  I agree. I agree.
• 1:31:29
  Yeah, I covered up woman. I went and and this is this is
• 1:31:32
  the part that I am I'm going to look up because I don't want to,
• 1:31:37
  you know, you do do so many and sometimes, I mean, I'm honest,
• 1:31:40
  I, I, I do like OK, what was the full name again?
• 1:31:44
  Or in fact, I just put a short out about this one here.
• 1:31:51
  Let me just turn down the sound. You know the thing with all
• 1:31:57
  these missing persons cases, especially when you're covering
• 1:32:00
  like specific details, you're actually going into what
• 1:32:03
  happened. It's like you never want to be
• 1:32:05
  accusatory towards like a family member or anything like that and
• 1:32:09
  ruin their lives. But at the same time, I really
• 1:32:12
  struggled to, for lack of better words, put up with the bullshit.
• 1:32:18
  Yeah. So, you know, you on one hand,
• 1:32:20
  you can't ignore stuff, but you also don't want to be accusatory
• 1:32:22
  because there's so many people that's lives have been ruined by
• 1:32:25
  completely false defamation of their character over something
• 1:32:29
  that they're struggling with so hard.
• 1:32:30
  And it's just, that's a really hard part for me about missing
• 1:32:32
  persons cases. And it's like you also like the
• 1:32:35
  people you know, building up the families or donating to them or
• 1:32:40
  doing certain things because some people seem like they
• 1:32:42
  definitely have some ulterior motives.
• 1:32:45
  Yeah, we've had, yeah. Which is why I have.
• 1:32:48
  Seen that as well. Even around here I've seen that
• 1:32:51
  happen. We definitely.
• 1:32:52
  And I totally agree with you on that, you know.
• 1:32:55
  We definitely need to be careful probably in the future of who we
• 1:33:00
  invite to specifically talk on our channel or what we say to
• 1:33:03
  them at least, or what we 'cause I mean, I feel like every
• 1:33:07
  missing child needs to have a platform regardless of who or
• 1:33:10
  what their parents could potentially be.
• 1:33:13
  Because even if they're not returned to their parents, just
• 1:33:16
  to know that they're safe and alive and well.
• 1:33:18
  And, you know, I feel like that's important.
• 1:33:21
  Yeah. And Lisa, we've covered, well
• 1:33:24
  we've covered officially 1 missing persons case, like
• 1:33:28
  active missing persons case, that was the Aubrey Wu case.
• 1:33:33
  And then we were also asked to cover another one, the Olivia
• 1:33:37
  Hansen case. Both of these these girls have
• 1:33:40
  now been returned. They found her.
• 1:33:44
  They found her. Yes, they did find her.
• 1:33:47
  See, that is oh, and and you know what I the closest that
• 1:33:54
  I've come. I love to hear that you've done
• 1:33:56
  that and that you know, and to me that there is no amount of
• 1:34:01
  money clicks, views and to me, that is what I'm going.
• 1:34:05
  I'm searching for like if one person hears and and that the
• 1:34:09
  end like when I was talking about my growth on the other, it
• 1:34:13
  was just to show my growth. I don't care about numbers.
• 1:34:16
  I if I can reach 5 people, then I do.
• 1:34:19
  And of course if you do build you get out some more.
• 1:34:22
  That's only common. But if you don't and you're
• 1:34:25
  passionate about it, please continue to do it.
• 1:34:27
  Doors and other areas will open and the satisfaction in the the
• 1:34:32
  the fulfillment in your heart, like when you get something
• 1:34:37
  found the part that you played a part in that to me is like,
• 1:34:41
  thank God, I I that I did that. Maybe maybe what you did
• 1:34:47
  somebody seen. I mean, you know, it only takes
• 1:34:49
  one person to see and I've had on the OK.
• 1:34:56
  Have you you guys have heard of the Sonny Shremick case?
• 1:35:01
  OK. So a few have covered her and I
• 1:35:04
  covered and I actually had somebody from her family comment
• 1:35:08
  on the way that I represented her and we believe that it she
• 1:35:12
  actually, well, we know without knowing that more than likely it
• 1:35:17
  was it was involving trafficking is how she went missing.
• 1:35:22
  And so but her family had wrote me on and so on my comments of
• 1:35:29
  they really expressed how I talked about her and and to me
• 1:35:34
  that was so. So I've had like three of those
• 1:35:37
  and I'm going to tell you it hits you different when you do
• 1:35:41
  something totally out of the blue.
• 1:35:44
  And then somebody that is on the related to that case, like a
• 1:35:49
  mother or child or whatever, and they reach out to you and they
• 1:35:53
  just thank you that that feeling is just a whole new because then
• 1:36:00
  it really invests you because it's like now it's, it even
• 1:36:03
  makes it more real. And it's just to me, it's just
• 1:36:07
  very fulfilling to know that you're just doing something to
• 1:36:11
  help somebody. And I, I love that.
• 1:36:14
  But I was going to tell you this is what like gets me when we
• 1:36:18
  don't get the missing persons pushed out.
• 1:36:21
  There was a Angela Anderson was a mother from New Jersey and she
• 1:36:25
  had gone missing purchasing one way ticket to reunite with her
• 1:36:30
  daughter Angela. Angela, who was she struggled
• 1:36:34
  with mental illness and was allowed by a caseworker to board
• 1:36:38
  a train. Now the daughter, just to sum it
• 1:36:41
  up really quick, the daughter had said because the mom had
• 1:36:45
  kind of had a little breakdown and she wasn't diagnosed with
• 1:36:48
  schizophrenic, but it kind of looked like it was heading
• 1:36:51
  there. She had been out a little bit,
• 1:36:53
  had a social worker. Long story short, she was back
• 1:36:56
  at her apartment, but she did have workers, all right.
• 1:36:59
  She wanted to come see her daughter.
• 1:37:01
  And the daughter was like, no, do not have her get on that
• 1:37:04
  train by herself. She is not mentally well to do
• 1:37:08
  that. Well, the social worker had
• 1:37:11
  said, well, your mom has got on the train.
• 1:37:14
  Well, I started feeling like that was suspect, like you said,
• 1:37:17
  like sometimes you just got to call it, you know, like I have
• 1:37:21
  to say, this is my feeling, but I feel like something had
• 1:37:26
  happened and they had to because they went out of their way to
• 1:37:29
  contact them. And we're like, well, she, you
• 1:37:31
  know, she was cleared to come see you.
• 1:37:33
  And I don't know, it's all it's a very.
• 1:37:35
  But anyway, I happened to catch that story like within days of
• 1:37:40
  it happening. So I put it out right away.
• 1:37:43
  It was not trending nobody. But I did something I came
• 1:37:47
  across and I seen it and I thought let's get this out
• 1:37:51
  because it's really quick in within like 3 or 4 days.
• 1:37:55
  Like let's get it out there and maybe somebody knows something
• 1:37:59
  and can find her. However you find her but can
• 1:38:02
  find her. And that video I think got 120
• 1:38:07
  views and I thought, you know what, why?
• 1:38:11
  You know, I'm glad 120 that's 120 more that didn't know.
• 1:38:16
  But I just thought this one especially because it just
• 1:38:20
  happened. Why couldn't this one have
• 1:38:22
  jumped out and went viral or like somebody because it wasn't
• 1:38:26
  covered in the media. It wasn't, you know, and it just
• 1:38:30
  I get so upset like, you know, and I wasn't monetized had
• 1:38:34
  nothing to do with money or anything.
• 1:38:35
  It was just like, this is we're so close to her or let's let's
• 1:38:40
  get it out here. You know, we can catch these
• 1:38:43
  missing right off that aren't on the media.
• 1:38:45
  A lot of times you don't hear about it till it's in the media.
• 1:38:48
  So yeah, that was the case that really got me.
• 1:38:52
  The Yeah, I, as Laura was saying earlier, you have to be careful
• 1:39:01
  with active cases because when you're dealing with the parents
• 1:39:05
  and all of that, you don't want to go too hard on them.
• 1:39:09
  But at the same time you want to learn the truth.
• 1:39:12
  And we, with the Aubrey Wu case, you know, we actually had the
• 1:39:17
  parents on. We interviewed them and
• 1:39:19
  everything. And yeah, but it became.
• 1:39:24
  It's a developing case and I'm interested to see what happened.
• 1:39:27
  It became, yeah, it became a real cluster when Reddit got a
• 1:39:34
  hold of that case. If you go to Reddit, there's a
• 1:39:37
  lot of stuff on there that's just stuff.
• 1:39:40
  Seems to have a point. I mean, I'm sure like obviously
• 1:39:44
  there's people that always make memes and directly insult
• 1:39:47
  people, which we're not, you know, supporting.
• 1:39:49
  But a lot of stuff that if I wouldn't have looked on Reddit
• 1:39:52
  and I would have just take people at their word, I wouldn't
• 1:39:55
  have found out. Yeah, so this is these are the
• 1:40:00
  Skelton brothers. They've been missing for quite a
• 1:40:02
  long time. Andrew Alexander and Tanner
• 1:40:06
  Skeleton have been missing from Morenci, MI for nearly 14 years.
• 1:40:11
  Their mother is now calling on the state to legally declare the
• 1:40:14
  boys dead. Tanya Zuvers about. 15 years.
• 1:40:19
  Now, yeah, in December 2023, to officially name her sons, who
• 1:40:23
  were 9-7 and five respectively when last seen dead.
• 1:40:28
  Pretrial hearing was held last week.
• 1:40:31
  Last seen, dead last seen and they're.
• 1:40:33
  I've been missing since 2010, so 15 years.
• 1:40:38
  Yeah, so they were at their dad's house for Thanksgiving in
• 1:40:43
  2010. They were spending Thanksgiving
• 1:40:47
  break with their dad, and he took off without.
• 1:40:52
  He took off with them. And he's actually, I think, in
• 1:40:56
  jail right now, or prison, and he still won't tell anybody what
• 1:41:01
  happened to the boys, so. Three of all three of them.
• 1:41:05
  Look at them. So this decision came after much
• 1:41:08
  thought and discussion with family and friends.
• 1:41:10
  It did not come lightly and was definitely a difficult decision
• 1:41:14
  to make. No parent wants to lose a child,
• 1:41:17
  but to have but to have to have the court step in and declare
• 1:41:22
  them deceased is just unfathomable.
• 1:41:26
  So those were the boys. Look, Adam.
• 1:41:34
  There is not a day that goes by that I don't think of you and
• 1:41:37
  your brother, she posted. Today is supposed to be the day
• 1:41:40
  of celebrating you and I hope and pray that wherever you are,
• 1:41:44
  you are with your brothers and celebrating you together.
• 1:41:47
  Today. The boys were in the care of
• 1:41:50
  their father, Joe Skelton. OK, so in two in 2010
• 1:41:55
  Thanksgiving and she said that he had stole custody of her sons
• 1:42:03
  but she allowed her estranged husband to have children the the
• 1:42:06
  children for the holiday and they had split.
• 1:42:09
  In September of 2010, police learned through interviews that
• 1:42:15
  John had travelled 25 miles away to Holiday City, OH, around the
• 1:42:20
  same time that his sons were last seen alive.
• 1:42:24
  Cell phone records suggest the trip was between 4:29 AM and
• 1:42:29
  6:46 AM on Friday after Thanksgiving.
• 1:42:33
  John, who was a long haul truck driver, had the police told had
• 1:42:37
  told police he handed off his children to a woman named Joanne
• 1:42:41
  Taylor. He said he did not know her, but
• 1:42:43
  when Taylor had car trouble on the side of the road, he did not
• 1:42:48
  know her but met Taylor when he had.
• 1:42:51
  When Taylor had car trouble on the side of the road, he also
• 1:42:55
  claimed that they were given to an underground sanctuary to
• 1:42:58
  protect them from their mother. Officials didn't believe him and
• 1:43:01
  charged him with child abandonment.
• 1:43:04
  A month before the brothers disappeared, John filed for
• 1:43:07
  custody, accusing the mom of being a registered sex offender.
• 1:43:12
  And actually, she had been, she had been, she pled guilty
• 1:43:16
  previously to 4th degree criminal sexual conduct for
• 1:43:20
  having sex with a 14 year old boy in 1998.
• 1:43:24
  And I think he was one of her students or something like that.
• 1:43:27
  Oh gosh. Yeah.
• 1:43:30
  But she's repeatedly denied abusing her own sons.
• 1:43:35
  So in 2000, yeah. So in 2018, John told local news
• 1:43:41
  stations that he gave the boys to two women and a man who
• 1:43:44
  planned to take them to a farm in Ohio.
• 1:43:47
  He still has not identified the said organization.
• 1:43:51
  Court documents allege that John searched online about how to
• 1:43:54
  break a neck a week prior to his son's vanishing.
• 1:43:59
  John pled no contest to three counts of unlawful imprisonment.
• 1:44:02
  Imprisonment in September of 2011 and he was sentenced to 10
• 1:44:07
  to 15 years in prison and is scheduled for release November
• 1:44:10
  of 2025. That's gross.
• 1:44:15
  Yeah, so he's scheduled for release. 2025 this November 2.
• 1:44:19
  Pieces of shit found each other. Well, you know.
• 1:44:24
  Susan. Smith, you know, she didn't make
• 1:44:26
  her parole. Yeah, but no matter what, she
• 1:44:29
  will be out in 10 because she got 40 years, you know.
• 1:44:36
  So with with parole, like life with parole or life with, you
• 1:44:40
  know. Kids off.
• 1:44:41
  So her 40 years, she's done 30, her 40.
• 1:44:45
  Years drove him into a lake or a pond.
• 1:44:52
  Yeah, that was here in South Carolina and.
• 1:44:53
  When she when did you say she's getting off?
• 1:44:56
  So she was actually up for parole a couple months ago.
• 1:45:01
  And of course, she did not get it.
• 1:45:03
  And, but no matter what, I mean, she's due, she'll get out at 40
• 1:45:08
  years. So that will be in 10 years,
• 1:45:11
  nine years. And I mean, she looks pretty
• 1:45:15
  healthy. And, I mean, you never know.
• 1:45:17
  But, you know, and that's sad. She says she will get out no
• 1:45:23
  matter what they didn't give her.
• 1:45:25
  I'm surprised she didn't get life without parole.
• 1:45:29
  Yeah, it's just like with Carla Hamoka, the chicken in Canada.
• 1:45:36
  That was a serial killer. It was the cannon Barbie
• 1:45:40
  killers. Oh.
• 1:45:40
  Yeah, she's. Out.
• 1:45:42
  Yeah, Yeah. And she was actually a member of
• 1:45:44
  the PTA for a little while. She would be OK.
• 1:45:46
  No. Oh my God.
• 1:45:47
  No. No.
• 1:45:49
  Like the Green River Killer, Mr. Boy Scout leader and BTK and and
• 1:45:56
  it's just so and that's why these these are so important.
• 1:46:01
  And so, like, you know, like I said, everybody does what they
• 1:46:06
  want to do and what their passion is.
• 1:46:07
  And but like if people don't like and I ended mind saying,
• 1:46:14
  you know, we are powerful. We when we work together, look
• 1:46:17
  how quick like we shut Casey Anthony down.
• 1:46:20
  Like she attempted and she was that was it.
• 1:46:24
  She just made an attempt and she knew and I think why didn't we
• 1:46:28
  do this with gypsy? Like if we just would have put
• 1:46:31
  our foots down, all of us but her more intriguing because she
• 1:46:36
  wasn't a child involved. Well, with Gypsy it was more
• 1:46:40
  because everybody thought that she was abused.
• 1:46:44
  Right. You're not supposed to question
• 1:46:46
  an abuse victim, which, you know, I largely agree with for
• 1:46:49
  the most part. It's like just too many things
• 1:46:52
  weren't adding up and. Yeah, I, I just say Indians.
• 1:46:56
  And it's like, if we could see high insight, we would have done
• 1:46:59
  the same thing, you know? And there's still some that
• 1:47:02
  don't feel like, you know, we all feel so and everybody still
• 1:47:06
  has it like, and that's why it just keeps going and going and
• 1:47:09
  going because, you know, there's some people, no matter what the
• 1:47:13
  circumstances, you cannot justify it.
• 1:47:17
  Then there's some that's like, you haven't walked those shoes.
• 1:47:20
  You know, if what she's saying is true, you would you do the
• 1:47:24
  same thing? You know, it's just so it's,
• 1:47:30
  it's just, but it's like, you know, I think when it started,
• 1:47:33
  the thing was that once she had that year and a half of parole.
• 1:47:39
  So the, I think the deal was is can we get her back in, you
• 1:47:44
  know, if we can prove that it was wrong?
• 1:47:47
  And I think a lot of people were hoping that was like they were
• 1:47:50
  watching her every move. So I stopped that.
• 1:47:53
  I understand there are like, no, she she talked different today.
• 1:47:57
  That's it. I mean, you know, seriously.
• 1:48:01
  And there was some things that really like, yeah, she should
• 1:48:06
  have gone back in for some things she's done because others
• 1:48:08
  would have. But now we're coming up where
• 1:48:12
  she's getting ready to even be off parole.
• 1:48:14
  I mean, and I think she's going to get real messy after that.
• 1:48:19
  And it's like, I don't even know now, but it'll even because I
• 1:48:22
  thought maybe after parole it will kind of die down, right?
• 1:48:27
  Maybe people will focus more about Nick if they want to keep
• 1:48:30
  it going because she's kind of done.
• 1:48:35
  Maybe the show ends, it will die down and but I don't know.
• 1:48:41
  I mean, some have truly made a career off of this.
• 1:48:48
  And so that's where, but I just hope for the for the sake of
• 1:48:53
  other people that that need the attention, that need that, and
• 1:48:58
  that we just start seeing more variety, whatever it is, even
• 1:49:02
  people in the true crime that that explore it like a
• 1:49:05
  paranormal and like, for instance, that you know, Amy
• 1:49:10
  that was just in here. She does a lot of like different
• 1:49:14
  things. And I know she's done gypsy, but
• 1:49:16
  she you know, I know she's big into the Watts case and I never
• 1:49:21
  went on a deep on a watts either.
• 1:49:24
  Now I know the case, but I never that wasn't a case that I went.
• 1:49:28
  And in fact, I had told Amy that not too long ago.
• 1:49:30
  I said, you know, I don't know a lot of really detailed details.
• 1:49:35
  I know what happened and I, I know enough to talk about it,
• 1:49:38
  but I don't there's, I have real stuff going on in that Watts
• 1:49:42
  case and I don't even know. It's like whoa.
• 1:49:45
  Yeah, the Nicole Kessinger's interesting 1 Nicole.
• 1:49:49
  Kessinger thing, that's something I'll have to and I
• 1:49:53
  still try to look at the Megan Walsh thing.
• 1:49:56
  I haven't been able to find anything too much yet.
• 1:49:58
  I've been looking now. I don't know who Megan Walsh is.
• 1:50:02
  John Walsh's daughter, yeah. I told you about that.
• 1:50:08
  My bad. So actually that I just ran
• 1:50:13
  across that whenever it first came out, somehow it came out on
• 1:50:18
  my, you know, YouTube feed. It's John Walsh's daughter talk.
• 1:50:22
  Just heard her say. That well, but she was talking
• 1:50:25
  about how the custody of her child was taken from her by her
• 1:50:31
  parents. Yeah.
• 1:50:33
  Because was she like an addict or?
• 1:50:35
  Supposedly, according to her, she started questioning the
• 1:50:39
  narrative of how her brother died.
• 1:50:42
  And so it's very interesting. And, you know, I, I give him
• 1:50:47
  props for all that he has done. I mean, he has definitely
• 1:50:50
  created a movement of finding missing people and, and solving
• 1:50:56
  cases. So I definitely can't take that
• 1:50:59
  from him, right? But we all have, you know, our
• 1:51:02
  issues. And yeah.
• 1:51:05
  And I think that I would suspect, you know, he's getting
• 1:51:08
  older too, because I knows Callahan is now on this.
• 1:51:12
  So what I'm I bet would happen if it continues to take off,
• 1:51:19
  probably Callahan would take over is what I would suspect,
• 1:51:23
  which is his son. Everybody doesn't know who
• 1:51:25
  Callahan is so. So, so we are winding down now
• 1:51:30
  we've got 9 minutes and. I know we have been on don't
• 1:51:34
  drive a talker and I didn't know you would have all this missing
• 1:51:38
  stuff or I would have really shortened my back.
• 1:51:41
  I didn't know like how much I was supposed to kind of.
• 1:51:44
  But it's like. It's like my story is kind of
• 1:51:48
  how I got here. It's not simple and it's been
• 1:51:50
  years in the working and so I don't I sometimes I don't know
• 1:51:54
  how to shorten it. No, that's all right.
• 1:51:56
  And that's, that's why I ask people, you know, why they talk
• 1:52:00
  about what they talk about because it's important to them.
• 1:52:03
  And I think it's important for us as viewers to know a little
• 1:52:07
  bit more about why you do what you do.
• 1:52:10
  I definitely think so. And I love you and all this
• 1:52:13
  information and I really, I had no idea how in depth you were in
• 1:52:17
  the missing. You know, I've seen some stuff
• 1:52:20
  done, but I had no idea. I really, I've only really done
• 1:52:24
  a couple, you know, but at Military Broadcast Radio, we
• 1:52:29
  have decided as an organization that we have created a SOPA
• 1:52:34
  standard operating procedure of when somebody comes to us to
• 1:52:39
  advocate for a missing child, because we ran into some issues
• 1:52:44
  with the last one. And so we want to be a support
• 1:52:49
  system, but we don't want to facilitate anything that is not
• 1:52:54
  kosher. Right.
• 1:52:57
  So, so we, you know, we have decided that as a as a radio
• 1:53:03
  station, we are going to deal with missing persons cases a
• 1:53:07
  little bit differently than we have been.
• 1:53:09
  So you seem you're very mature for I don't know how old you
• 1:53:13
  are. My son is 20.
• 1:53:15
  He'll be 27 in June. But you seem very direct in
• 1:53:19
  like, you know what you want and you, you like, you're focused.
• 1:53:23
  And I, I appreciate that and I enjoy seeing younger generations
• 1:53:27
  being that way because that is what we need.
• 1:53:30
  We need leadership. We, we need that.
• 1:53:33
  So I can tell Laura's like I'm on this and you know, she's not.
• 1:53:37
  I can tell she's not easily influenced.
• 1:53:40
  Oh no. Right.
• 1:53:41
  And that's great because that's what we need out here.
• 1:53:45
  Joyce said to Laura. Mature.
• 1:53:47
  Oh, I don't know what's, I don't know what the what an
• 1:53:52
  interesting what or a mature and then Nightbot said.
• 1:53:57
  So Nightbot is the app. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:54:02
  I don't get it. I'm confused.
• 1:54:03
  But yeah, thanks Joy, for all your faith in me.
• 1:54:06
  God, I don't know. I don't know if mature is the
• 1:54:11
  word that I would use to. Describe myself either, but
• 1:54:13
  especially after that Doctor Phil went.
• 1:54:17
  What the doctor Phil said that real quick before we lick.
• 1:54:20
  You we did a a Doctor Phil Jeopardy show, basically
• 1:54:27
  exposing fancy. I'm like, where do I go?
• 1:54:31
  Look at this in when your video, was it in there?
• 1:54:34
  Yeah, it's in there. Laura's dressed up as Doctor
• 1:54:38
  Phil for the thumbnails. I love that.
• 1:54:42
  Oh, I love fun stuff like that. And so you do like a Jeopardy
• 1:54:46
  theme? Like, yeah, yeah, we've got
• 1:54:48
  Toddy and Trixie and Millennial. Yeah.
• 1:54:53
  Oh, I miss that I. Miss Yeah.
• 1:54:56
  OK. So Lisa, as we're going out,
• 1:54:59
  yes. Is there anything that you would
• 1:55:01
  like to promote or tell anybody about?
• 1:55:04
  I just want people to know that I am so it is the search with
• 1:55:08
  Lisa. You will see conquer life on
• 1:55:11
  things on TikTok. It is still conquer life Lisa on
• 1:55:16
  there you'll see the detective sign and the awareness.
• 1:55:18
  I do a mixture. I try to intertwine also doing
• 1:55:22
  some awareness things. My mother has dementia and right
• 1:55:27
  when I started the series of me mom and dementia our journey,
• 1:55:32
  mom went into the hospital for like 3 or three weeks.
• 1:55:35
  I have a lot of stuff documented on that and I'm trying to get
• 1:55:38
  that together. So I didn't get to start the
• 1:55:40
  series as quick as I wanted. So that is and I try to do
• 1:55:46
  something like a little light hearted.
• 1:55:48
  I will say this real quick, like it's called makeup for A cause.
• 1:55:51
  And tonight I'm kind of just down like just normal kind of
• 1:55:56
  makeup, but I'll do something that's kind of makeup is my
• 1:56:00
  therapy. And So what I'll do is I'll do
• 1:56:03
  something like today, like this month is May, like brain tumor
• 1:56:10
  awareness. May is Gray.
• 1:56:12
  So basically anything dealing with the brain.
• 1:56:14
  So for instance, I would do a whole Gray look, right?
• 1:56:18
  And do something very kind of more extreme with the makeup.
• 1:56:21
  But then when along with that, I will add like all the symptoms
• 1:56:25
  and just all the information with it and put together as a
• 1:56:28
  video. So if you see something that
• 1:56:29
  says makeup for a 'cause it really is like an awareness
• 1:56:33
  video. The makeup is just something to
• 1:56:34
  kind of draw you in. So sometimes you'll find me
• 1:56:37
  online doing the makeup look, but other than that, basically I
• 1:56:41
  started part time with once a week and I am now with my mom is
• 1:56:47
  really declining mentally, physically, she's still great,
• 1:56:50
  but she really like there's a she doesn't know who I am, you
• 1:56:53
  know, And so we are having more helps, you know, and I've been
• 1:56:58
  able to move in a private room now.
• 1:57:01
  So I will be going more full time as my point and more
• 1:57:04
  consistently. So the more we can grow, the
• 1:57:08
  better we are. And I hope to inquire, you know,
• 1:57:12
  and put him or not inquire, but intertwining more, having fun
• 1:57:18
  things. I enjoy a good game night, a fun
• 1:57:20
  night, doing panel talks, things like that.
• 1:57:23
  That's where I'm going. So like you're helping,
• 1:57:26
  assisting, you know, they'll be, as I build, they'll be more.
• 1:57:29
  It took me a while on another app and switching apps.
• 1:57:33
  It's like you're starting all over.
• 1:57:34
  You will have some of your original supporters, but I tell
• 1:57:38
  people, don't look at numbers because if you have that tribe,
• 1:57:41
  it doesn't. You could have a million
• 1:57:43
  followers, but you won't have a million in your chat, I promise.
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  So they're the ones that are with you and that's all I'm
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  worried about, you know, and I just really appreciate you guys
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  having me up here. And really I, I truly appreciate
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  that. I've kind of felt like a lone
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  wolf. So I'm very thankful for anybody
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  that takes the time. Yeah.
• 1:58:04
  You're welcome, Lisa and you are welcome anytime and and we do
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  want to thank you for doing brain tumor awareness because my
• 1:58:14
  husband has a brain tumor so and his birthday.
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  'S in May. Yeah, that's it.
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  Wow. Now it's non cancerous, so it's
• 1:58:24
  in the meninges so but but thank you very much for what you're
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  doing and we will hopefully have you back.
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  I hope so too. I hope so too.
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  You guys are doing phenomenal. So thank you, Lisa.
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  Have a blessed night. All right.
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  Thank you. OK, night everybody.
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  And, and thank you everybody for staying with us and bringing
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  light to all of these missing children.
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  You know, it's, it's extremely important.
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  And, and missing people, not just children, but children are
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  definitely more more my thing, you know, I definitely resonate
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  more with that. So.
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  They have their whole lives out of them.
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  Also, Joy, sorry that our nightbot was bullying you in the
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  comments. I don't really know why you
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  putting emojis in the chat mattered.
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  I. Don't know either.
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  Thanks for the engagement. But yeah, I don't know what the
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  issues is issues. Are thank you so much.
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  So I pray that you all have a blessed day, a blessed night
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  whenever you're watching this, that you go out and do something
• 1:59:35
  important to change the world. So thank you once again.
• 1:59:40
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