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Moms Aren't Lost--They're Untapped/Discover Your Hidden Genius · Inside The Moms Club

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Inside the Mom's Club. I'm your host, Monica Samuels,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm here with my co host, Julie Orchid. A
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  Speaker 1: little Julie.
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  Speaker 2: The other hot day in Austin.
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  Speaker 1: I know it's it's in the high eighties.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little toasty, but it is. It's going
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  Speaker 2: to drop this weekend, just in time.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I'm wearing this jacket because I feel I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna be ready there, Tom, because you know how it
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  Speaker 1: is here in Austin' up and down and up and down.
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  Speaker 2: It can't make up its mind.
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  Speaker 1: No, it cannot, just like we can't sometimes, Like you're like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to have a question for you. So you
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  Speaker 1: have a daughter that's now in college. I do, And
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  Speaker 1: you're an empty nest.
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  Speaker 2: There's my second child going off to college, right, So
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  Speaker 2: I am an empty nester.
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  Speaker 1: And so I'm in it. I know you are. But
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  Speaker 1: are what?
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  Speaker 4: I know?
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  Speaker 1: You're relaxing, having fun doing the podcast. You're out of fun.
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  Speaker 1: This is great. Do you have any other plans? Like
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  Speaker 1: you've been so career wise. You've been a nurse, an
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  Speaker 1: account executive, I have a mom A oh yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: very important. You're on the Mom's Club. We put high
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  Speaker 1: that's of high value. So you've done all of those things.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what are you to do next?
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  Speaker 1: Less I wrote a book Comeback Moms, and we talked about,
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  Speaker 1: you know in moms take time off to take care of,
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  Speaker 1: you know, raise the kids, Like how do they stay
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  Speaker 1: plugged back in? What's their next act going to be?
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  Speaker 2: I mean this question kind of makes me sweat a
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  Speaker 2: little bit because I have to say it's something I
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  Speaker 2: think about all the time and I have so many
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  Speaker 2: questions about it. But when I was younger, they one
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  Speaker 2: hundred percent told me that I needed to be a
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  Speaker 2: funeral director.
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  Speaker 1: A funeral director who told you.
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  Speaker 2: That that one of those tests that you do. They're like,
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  Speaker 2: this is you know what it came out to be?
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  Speaker 2: And then I was like, I don't know that's.
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  Speaker 1: And what was it about you that they think it's.
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  Speaker 2: A lucrative business, because oh, it really is going to
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  Speaker 2: say that would have been.
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  Speaker 1: Chase, one of his fraternity brothers. They own two fewuneral
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  Speaker 1: homes in Little Rock right. Their motto is we put
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  Speaker 1: the fun in funeral. I mean they were kind of
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  Speaker 1: this fun family. I was like, you weren't expecting that.
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  Speaker 2: Was so I never really looked at it like that.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, as far as that goes, I never
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  Speaker 2: looked at myself as this widely empathetic person. I'm working
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  Speaker 2: on it, but yeah, funeral director, and I don't think
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  Speaker 2: you would have picked that job or no. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know that.
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  Speaker 1: Really that came out of the blue. That wasn't I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't axpecting.
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  Speaker 2: That for sure. Yeah, my family still giggles about that
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  Speaker 2: for sure. But anyway, I don't know what this was
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  Speaker 2: kind of like my next chapter. I have loved every
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  Speaker 2: second of podcasting with you over the last four years.
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  Speaker 2: It's been something that I've learned an enormous amount about
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  Speaker 2: and that we've gotten to interview so many people, and
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  Speaker 2: it has been really true. Joy, Well this is this
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  Speaker 2: is your next act.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just looking at you know, if right,
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  Speaker 1: if I get a new co host or something. Sometimes, goodness,
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  Speaker 1: I'm choking. You're my co host. How mean what would
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  Speaker 1: I do without you? We're we're we're a team.
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  Speaker 2: We're a team. We're a team for sure.
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  Speaker 1: But it's always good to have, you know, have other
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  Speaker 1: ideas about what else you might want to be doing.
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  Speaker 2: Did you circle back to what you were originally doing.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe, oh yeah, no, what I did. So I started
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  Speaker 1: out when I was a kid. I was I well kid,
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  Speaker 1: I was in high school. I was a journalism person.
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  Speaker 1: I was at my school paper. I wrote a funny
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  Speaker 1: article there you Go that won a statewide award for
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  Speaker 1: best column in the state of Texas. And then I
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  Speaker 1: went to college and pivoted to I went into law school,
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  Speaker 1: went to law. Then I did some you know, politics
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  Speaker 1: and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So you're back to write.
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  Speaker 1: And now I'm back to what I did to start
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  Speaker 1: out with. And I absolutely love it. So you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you can go full circle and you know that's all
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  Speaker 1: of that.
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  Speaker 2: So well, hopefully somebody can teach me.
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  Speaker 1: Some I think somebody here that's going to be perfect
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  Speaker 1: for you, and I hope that it turns out that
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  Speaker 1: she thinks that after.
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  Speaker 2: I have many questions, I'll try not to turn it
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  Speaker 2: into therapy session for myself.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well, I will kick you here on the table.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's to happen. We're thrilled to have with
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  Speaker 1: us today. The co founder of you Science, the nation's
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  Speaker 1: leading aptitude based career discovery platform. She is the co
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  Speaker 1: author of Your Hidden Genius, the science backed strategy to
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  Speaker 1: uncover and harnessing your innate talents. A talk a ted
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  Speaker 1: ex Nashville speaker and trusted voice on the future of work.
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  Speaker 1: She helps people understand their innate abilities, which are so
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  Speaker 1: important today in a world where AI is just taking
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  Speaker 1: over careers and education and everything else. Please welcome Betsy Wills. Betsy,
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Mom's Club.
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  Speaker 4: Great to see Monica. Hey, Julie, Hey, he to do here?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're so thrilled that you're here. So Betsy was
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  Speaker 1: kind enough to allow me to take the aptitude tests
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  Speaker 1: that they give with you Science. Yes, so I could
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  Speaker 1: see what my aptitudes were okay, and find my hidden
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  Speaker 1: genius I hope maybe. Well tell me so first of all,
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  Speaker 1: before I share that what happened in my case? Tell
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  Speaker 1: us what is your hidden genius? What are we looking
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  Speaker 1: for when we're looking for our hidden genius?
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's a great question. The truth of the matter
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  Speaker 4: is is we all have hidden genius. School tends to
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  Speaker 4: beat it out of us pretty early because school celebrates
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  Speaker 4: about two out of fifty two aptitudes. Oh, this is
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  Speaker 4: what's so hidden. People do not realize because it hasn't
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  Speaker 4: been talked about before just recently. But your hidden genius
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  Speaker 4: are basically your innate abilities, the things you're born with,
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  Speaker 4: just like being left handed or right handed. We have
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  Speaker 4: so many different abilities that you know, we notice as parents.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, you might have a child with a musical
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  Speaker 4: ability and it's very clear early on, or they may
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  Speaker 4: have our histickability. But there truly are fifty two that
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  Speaker 4: you can measure scientifically. And that's the exciting thing about
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  Speaker 4: modern career guided that's fascinating.
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  Speaker 1: That is yeah, that is great. And so I took
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  Speaker 1: their tests. Yeah, and it was actually it was exactly
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  Speaker 1: what Betsy said it was going to be. She said,
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  Speaker 1: some of these things you're gonna whizz right through and
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  Speaker 1: think they're great, and others you're going to want to
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  Speaker 1: throw your computer right through the wall, right and.
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  Speaker 2: I have to set there a math problem on this.
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  Speaker 4: See.
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  Speaker 2: I was kind of guessing, yeah, that's how that's what
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  Speaker 2: that would do it for me, that's.
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  Speaker 1: How well you know me. Yes, the minute a number
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  Speaker 1: appeared on the screen, I was like, ah, this is
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  Speaker 1: And then there was another test where you fold over
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  Speaker 1: in your mind. It's a facial sort of thing, fold.
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  Speaker 2: Over paper agami like well, except.
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  Speaker 1: There's holes in it and you're trying to match up
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  Speaker 1: the whole boat. Okay, and I know, like I was
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  Speaker 1: sort of like, but then others I just love there was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, taking words and showing what sequential order they
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  Speaker 1: should go in, and I was like, okay, I thought
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  Speaker 1: I certainly got one hundred on that.
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  Speaker 2: Of course that was my favorite thing exactly.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's really a lot like games because what we're
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  Speaker 4: looking at are these knacks that people have, and some
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  Speaker 4: people truly do have a knack for, say, remembering phone numbers,
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  Speaker 4: or they can remember their license plate number, which comes
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  Speaker 4: in handy if you're parking and you have to pay
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  Speaker 4: for that. But there's really over fifty two that you
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  Speaker 4: can measure, and not all of them are created equal.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, just because you can remember a phone number,
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  Speaker 4: it may not help you that much in your career,
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  Speaker 4: but there are several that do. And that's the beauty
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  Speaker 4: of understanding them is they're really the seeds of our skills,
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  Speaker 4: not the skills themselves. Gotcha looking at what you're born with.
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  Speaker 2: So, Betsy, if you heard the beginning of this about
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  Speaker 2: you know what they told me I was going to
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  Speaker 2: be or what I should shoot for whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Stranger.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, of course, of course.
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  Speaker 4: It was like, you know, yeah, I don't even i'll
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  Speaker 4: wear heels. I don't even wear you know, boots.
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  Speaker 2: You look good in a hat, I look good in
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  Speaker 2: a black suit. You know that's the way. Yeah. But
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  Speaker 2: what I was going to say is what is the difference? Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm a different age group now, and that's
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  Speaker 2: what they were doing before. But what I was reading
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  Speaker 2: a little bit in your book and watching your ted
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  Speaker 2: talk is what is the main difference? So give us
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  Speaker 2: a heads up on you know exactly what that is.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. So basically since the nineteen sixties, career guidance has
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  Speaker 4: been caught in the stone age, right, and what people
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  Speaker 4: think of as guidance was doing these surveys, and we
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  Speaker 4: all took the same one in high school. It's still
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  Speaker 4: out there today. It asked you to answer questions on
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  Speaker 4: a scale of one to five. So it might have
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  Speaker 4: asked you do you like building cabinets? Okay, now you're seventeen.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you know that. So it's kind
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  Speaker 4: of a ridiculous kind of assessment to only use on
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  Speaker 4: its own. We are you know, it is important to
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  Speaker 4: know what you're interested in. But at seventeen, your field
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  Speaker 4: of vision is very narrow. But that toolkit is really
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  Speaker 4: all schools and colleges and employers have had. They use
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  Speaker 4: things like Meyers Briggs or this interest survey and call
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  Speaker 4: it career guidance.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: Now, we've known forever though that if you could measure
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  Speaker 4: people's aptitudes, that is the secret sauce that you need.
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  Speaker 4: But computing power wasn't really there to do this at scale.
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  Speaker 4: So if you had the money, even since the nineteen forties,
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  Speaker 4: you could go take this assessment, but it costs you
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  Speaker 4: about one thousand dollars in two days. So really what
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  Speaker 4: the book is about is the fact that hey, guess what,
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  Speaker 4: Now this is available to everybody online for almost nothing.
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  Speaker 4: So it's included actually in the book, but you know,
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  Speaker 4: you can go buy it online for forty nine dollars,
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  Speaker 4: or if you buy my book, it's you know, sixteen dollars.
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  Speaker 4: But it's all the same assessment that is that has
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  Speaker 4: been current, you know, in time, one thousand dollars to take.
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  Speaker 4: It's a really researched psychometric assessment that can tell you
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  Speaker 4: truly what your natural abilities are. And so that's the
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  Speaker 4: exciting thing. We're in a new day, just like medicine
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  Speaker 4: or dating, better data, better outcomes totally.
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  Speaker 2: That's where yeah, I'm going to let the AI people
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  Speaker 2: do my dating for me and then they can come
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  Speaker 2: see and bring me exactly what they find.
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  Speaker 1: Makes a few friends for you and everything exactly. So
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  Speaker 1: when you're do you take the test when you're seventeen
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  Speaker 1: your aptitude test? Does your aptitude ever change? Like if
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  Speaker 1: I took one when I was younger, and it says
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  Speaker 1: your life, so it's always the same. So if I
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  Speaker 1: took it then at an aptitude test and said this
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  Speaker 1: is what you're good at, that's.
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  Speaker 4: That's the beauty of it. Basically, our aptitudes start marching
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  Speaker 4: or when we're about two. So you are all moms.
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  Speaker 4: We all notice certain things about our children early, but
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  Speaker 4: as they as we get older and approach puberty, other
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  Speaker 4: aptitudes show up as well, and by the time we're
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  Speaker 4: seventeen they're fixed. And again we're not talking about what
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  Speaker 4: you've learned. We're talking about innate abilities, and so they
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  Speaker 4: can always be developed if you're twenty seven thirty seven,
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  Speaker 4: one hundred and seven, but your scores will always be
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  Speaker 4: the same when you take these assessments, because that's we're
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  Speaker 4: just measuring your baseline.
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  Speaker 1: So the thing that you marry with this are of
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  Speaker 1: course your interests, because what I might be really good at,
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  Speaker 1: what am I not interested in it? Or what if
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm interested in opera music, but I can't carry
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  Speaker 1: a tune to save my life? So how do you
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  Speaker 1: so in when you're doing this entire analysis to decide
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  Speaker 1: what should I be doing, you look at the aptitude
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  Speaker 1: and then you and look at the interest and you
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  Speaker 1: figure out where they do meet?
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  Speaker 4: Is that getting and really, Monica, what we're looking for
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  Speaker 4: as well. The third part of that intersecting wheel is
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  Speaker 4: what the world will pay you to do? Oh okay, yes, you.
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  Speaker 2: Got to be paid Monica's that part.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can have all the interest in the world
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  Speaker 4: in playing the piano, and you can also have the aptitude,
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  Speaker 4: but you know you may or may not be paid
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  Speaker 4: for that. So that's called the hobby, and those are
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  Speaker 4: super important. Hobbies are hugely important. So it reveals that
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  Speaker 4: as well. But when you're looking for a job, you
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  Speaker 4: do want to find that intersection of your aptitudes plus
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  Speaker 4: your interest and what the world will pay you to do,
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  Speaker 4: because honestly, you know, we all want our children and
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  Speaker 4: ourselves to sleep indoors preferably rather than outdoors.
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  Speaker 1: Sure unless forest ranger.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So I have a question why Okay, no shade on
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  Speaker 2: my parents.
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  Speaker 3: Bye.
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  Speaker 2: It was always before like you need to find a job,
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  Speaker 2: you need to find a job, and this was kind
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  Speaker 2: of beat into you. We don't care if you like
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  Speaker 2: the job. It's a job, and so I definitely want
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  Speaker 2: to do I have two daughters and I want them
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  Speaker 2: to obviously not live at home aka be paid, but
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  Speaker 2: I want them also to be happy. Life is too
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  Speaker 2: short to do something that's just a job. Why aren't
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  Speaker 2: we teaching this more in school? So if we're why
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  Speaker 2: are we knocking out? You're smiling because you're like, I
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  Speaker 2: have a great answer, but why is this not more
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  Speaker 2: common as we develop?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think that there's been a missed message of
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  Speaker 4: follow your passion and that is really what you're saying.
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  Speaker 4: You want them to be happy, of course, but really
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  Speaker 4: the message is bring passion to your work, and what
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  Speaker 4: aptitudes help you identify are the things that feel most
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  Speaker 4: satisfying and easy for you, And that is going to
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  Speaker 4: be that's important step we need to be understanding prior
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  Speaker 4: to Willy nilly just picking a career because you know,
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  Speaker 4: maybe we watched LA Law or law in order that
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  Speaker 4: we go to law school. Right. You know, there's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of things that influence our choices, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: parents want to tell their children they want to fix
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  Speaker 4: it early. Sure, okay, we tend to just want to
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  Speaker 4: get it all straight so that they're safe. But the
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  Speaker 4: main thing we need to be doing is really encouraging exploration,
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  Speaker 4: and really encouraging exploration that align with your aptitudes.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think when we were growing up too,
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  Speaker 1: I mean there was a there was an emphasis that
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  Speaker 1: we don't want you sleeping on the streets of so
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  Speaker 1: for me, I know, and I've told this story before,
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  Speaker 1: but when I was really young, I wanted to be
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  Speaker 1: an actress because I was good at it, right, And
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  Speaker 1: then they're like, well you are good at it, you'll
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  Speaker 1: be poor. We don't want to do that. And then
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  Speaker 1: I was I like, and I wanted to be a
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  Speaker 1: history professor, and was a side about that, like, well
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  Speaker 1: you'll be poor, but we think that's great and I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to be poor. And then a journalist and
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  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, well, you know, you'll be poor. What's
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  Speaker 1: until I got to be open to go to law
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  Speaker 1: school that they were encouraging. They were, and I think
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  Speaker 1: my aptitude test did show that. It's not like I
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  Speaker 1: don't have aptitude to be an attorney now, but I
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  Speaker 1: did need to have a passion for it, which really
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  Speaker 1: wasn't entirely there.
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  Speaker 4: So well, I think also, you know what Julie was
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  Speaker 4: saying about, you know, sometimes we're in jobs. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: jobs are jobs, you know, and uh, there's a reason
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  Speaker 4: work is a four letter word. I mean it's the truth.
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  Speaker 4: But a lot of times our unhappiness or dissatisfaction with
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  Speaker 4: our jobs is because we aren't honoring some aptitudes that
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  Speaker 4: need to be taken out for a run. And so
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  Speaker 4: before we put our job on the witness stand that
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  Speaker 4: is paying us well, like being a lawyer, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I would first examine what if I left on the table.
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  Speaker 4: You know, maybe it's a hobby I need to be
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  Speaker 4: adding to my life, not necessarily putting this job. Knee
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  Speaker 4: jerk right now, Sometimes we are in the wrong job,
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  Speaker 4: that's for sure. But I like to tell people to,
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  Speaker 4: you know, hold the phone just a minute before they quit.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, as I tell my children. It's a lot easier
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  Speaker 2: to look for a job when you have a job.
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  Speaker 4: So very good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So I have done a lot of things
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  Speaker 2: in my life. I currently am running some businesses or properties,
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  Speaker 2: I should say, on the side, doing that as well.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm looking into like, am I this I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how else to phrase this? Am I too old?
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  Speaker 2: Like let's talk about age and how this works for
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  Speaker 2: people who are gotten their children off to college, and
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  Speaker 2: maybe they want to discover what what do I want
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  Speaker 2: to do? Do I want to do something different?
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  Speaker 1: Listen?
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: I've always done careers in connection, whether it's account executive,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: I became a nurse. You know, we're doing podcasting right
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: easily to me? Things like that.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah. The whole reason I started you Science was
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: I took an aptitude assessment in my you know, when
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: my children were in school. I mean they were already
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: in school. I'd had a job before that. I've then
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: stayed at home with my children. It's the perfect time
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: when you're reevaluating any pivot point is a good time
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: to start by understanding your aptitudes. That's really right. Why
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: I wrote the book You're Hidden Genius was so that
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: everybody could have access. There's no bad time to understand
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: what they are. And you know, all of us have
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: this nagging feeling at one time or another like maybe
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: I'm not in the right job, or maybe I'm dissatisfied.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: That's normal, you know, that's very normal. So giving yourself
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: the time to kind of look back at what your
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: core innate abilities are kind of gives you the confidence
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: to try something new, yes, or to you know, look
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: at other people not as the law version of you,
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: which is what we tend to do, you know, we
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: really do. So it's that insight of self that's the
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: beginning point and then it can you know, it maps
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: you to all the careers out there. If you're interested
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: in moving on with a formal career, you're going to
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: get a lot of good ideas by that matching process.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, like I said, dating is personalized, medicine is personalized.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: Career matching is now personalized.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: And that's really exciting for it. Well when you like,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: for our children, I think we still do it. There's
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: the aims test too. I mean they do the same thing.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I think, although they charge they charge you one thousand dollars. Yeah, yeah,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: because some of the kids we know took that test.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: So it's good to help right, I love it.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good to help them. You know, are you
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: scient to do the tests that you have to decide
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: what they want to major in, what they might want
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: to do. But I'm excited about it for our moms
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: out there who are just in your position or you know,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: they they're ready to like what's my next act going
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: to be? I think this is great for them.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: I mean I don't. I mean, my daughter doesn't know
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: what's coming her way at Christmas and Thanksgiving or Thanksgiving
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: and Christmas testing as a freshman.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, neither is my son. Yeah, my son is
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: going to take this aptitude time.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll find out.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think it will help him because he came
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: to us recently and he said, you know, I'm glad
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: I had this finance degree and I'm in this big
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: analyst position, but I really think I should be a
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: personal trainer. And I was like, I mean that's nice,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I guess, but I don't really know that where you
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: to give up your day job. Plus we've seen his
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: credit card bills. I'm not sure he can afford to
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: be a personal trainer. So there's a lot of.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Visions, not enough clients that could pay that is, maybe
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: it would.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Be helpful for him to see fro himself, like it's
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: because it is eye opening. When you were going over
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: my test results with me, I was like, oh, yeah,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: you know, I know I aced that part and I
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: know I was awful at that. So but I've learned
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: a few of the other things about it.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Knows how Monica's trying to get an A on an aptitude.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: There's no as that's my nature.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: Love to give example to about what's different about aptitude
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: assessments is there's no good or bad score, you know,
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: and as Monica knows, she you know, some of the
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: assessments they feel like games, can you say, Monica, they
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: feel like, yeah they do, and yes, you do feel
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: like throwing the computer out the window for some of
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: them and others you're going to think why was this
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: so hard? But everybody's different into which games they find
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: to be that way, and uh, it's so clarifying to
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: kind of understand these differences all of a sudden about yourself.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: So you know, again it jump starts a lot of things.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, jump starts. I would say a little bit
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: of your self worth too, because if like you said,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I mean a lot of times we all did stay
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: at home mom for a period of time. And so
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: I see two things on this. A is it harder
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: for women, you think to take this task and understand,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: you know, what where they would be placed or what
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: their you know, aptitude is or And then where do
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: hobbies fit into this? Because Monica and I talk about
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: hobbies all the time, I mean, and what we would
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: be good at, what would we enjoy? And I don't.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: I have no idea why I struggle with a hobby,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: but I do.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot of people. Yeah, my husband has
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: no hobbies.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, okay, we work. Yeah.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, shopping is a hot If that's counted as
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: a hobby, as a hobby, that's computer science.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Right right right, you're so right now I feel better
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: about it for myself.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: You're navigating all that stuff. No, So we do tend
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: as women, particularly to discount things that come easily to us,
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: because what we do is we say, oh, anybody can
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: do that, that's not valuable. Yeah, and it's the very
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: thing that is. And so you know, this really reveals that.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: But what we do find we've tested seven and a
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: half million people now on this assessment. Oh yeah, that's fantastic.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: We have a lot of data across every age and stage.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: You know, people are seventy years old, people who are seventeen.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: And you know what we find is women particularly tend
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: to score as more likely and more able to be,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: for instance, computer scientists. And it also construction has been
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: one of the things that a lot of women don't
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: realize would be a great career path for them. I mean,
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: we tend to think about, you know, the person you
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: know on the scaffolding, but there's a huge industry that
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: because it's very much about organization, very high paying jobs.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: So you uncover more options than you close out when
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: you find this out, and then you know, I think
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: I can't remember what your second question was. It was
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: about hotbbies, struggle you've yeah, yeah, no hobbies. So for example,
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: you might score you know, you have a suite of
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: suggestions that come up from a career standpoint when you
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: get your scores. I know Monica saw this, but let's say,
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: for example, someone who scores to be the same profile
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: as an architect. Okay, just because you have the aptitude
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: for being an architect doesn't mean you are one right now.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: You have to add learning and practice in schooling and training.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: But for someone who scores like that, you're going to
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: have faster uptake if you did apply. You know, if
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: you've had interest and wanted to do it and you
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: score like that, it's going to become it's going to
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: become easy for you. But the same profile who scores
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: as an architect also would enjoy fine art photography and
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: it shows as well, which is fascinating to me. But
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: if you think about their similar in the sense of
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: you know, it's lighting, it's measuring distance, it's scale, it's
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: a lot of things that architects do. But that's a
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: clear hobby, so true, not necessarily a job.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Right when you were mentioning earlier about women have shown
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: great aptitude in computer science or even in constructions, there's
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: a part of the test, as I recall, where they
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: kind of asked you about your interests later at the
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: end of it. Do you find because do women show
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: a lot I mean, do they express all, yeah, I
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: am interested in that and so it matches up or
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: do they not? I mean, is that more societal do
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: you think, like we're not encouraging them to be interested
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: in that because we've sort of got this stereotype that
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: they can't do it for some reason, when actually they really.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: Could, right any Unfortunately, what we do is what we
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: see or what we think we're interested in, is what
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: we've been exposed to. And so yes, I think, and
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: of course we can't group everybody together, but most you know,
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: women tend to be encouraged towards the helping professions for example,
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: you know, and there's nothing wrong with that, nursing teaching.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: And so what we see when people answer that interest
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: portion is a disproportionate amount of women are you know,
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: answering it, and it says, oh, you should be those things.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: But when we revealed that only their aptitudes, it shows
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: a completely different picture. And so as early as we
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: can tell people that, the better from the standpoint of
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: our kids. But even as adults, you know, I think
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: it gives people, you know, the license to try things
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: they may never have tried. You know, maybe you want
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: to take a programming class and you never considered that
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: before because no one told you you could.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, yeah, no, that's really interesting.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: We need to be students again.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I know, well, I was, well, student, you're a life dude, Curly.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I believe you.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's definitely something that shouldn't be put on
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: the back burner. You know for sure. How long did
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: it take you to to do all this research and
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: put this book together?
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Longer than I want to admit. Now, the company started
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: in twenty ten, but we did not come up with
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: this assessment ourselves. As Monica said, you know, Beam is
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: out there. There's something called Johnson O'Connor, and you can't
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: just make up an aptitude test. It's not my little
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: aptitude test. We actually bought the assessment that has been
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: researched since the nineteen forties. And all we did was
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: we bought it. I mean, we brought it into an
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: online environment to make it accessible and democratize it so
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: everyone could access it. And then we worked with the
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: US government. There's something called Ohnet that they've built that
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: maps every job out there, I mean hundreds of thousands
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: of jobs, and they've been mapping people's aptitudes since the
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: nineteen sixties. But unless I have your data, I can't
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: really do that match. And so now we can't.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: So cool, do you have a do you have a
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: favorite story that you can share of someone who's taken
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: this and has come back and reported of you know, yeah,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I'm now yeah, now I'm now a brigadier general who
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: knew that was going to happen.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: We have so many, I mean, you know from you know,
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: a young woman that came to see me who actually
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: took it in twenty twelve and came into my office
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: because I was working at a financial firm with her,
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: and she said, you're the person who you know was
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: part of youth Science. I took it ten years ago
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: and that's why I'm an accountant, you know, wow, because
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: I never thought I could would ever do that, and
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: it revealed that that was an option for me, and
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: I pursued it and I'm so happy. But my real
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: apocryphal story is I had a woman come to me
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: whose parents had always told her she should be a
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: veterinarian because she loved animals. And this is what we do.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: You know, we loved animals. She had a pot belly, pitch, sure,
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: she had cats, dogs, you know, everything, she had, every
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: stuffed animal. Remember that scene in Et where everything in
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: the closet and Barrymores and like that, and she was
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: a good student, and so her parents were like, you
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: should be a VET. And so all through high school
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: she studied really hard. She got into that nary school
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: because she was just chasing this thing that her parents
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: told her she should do. And she was a good student,
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: so why not. And she gets to her second year
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: of thatinary school and she is miserable. And she comes
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: to me and she said, you know, I love animals,
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: that's true, but I really don't like sick animals. Oh
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: and I never considered that before, right.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Isn't it funny? Yeah?
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what happens. You know. We just march along
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: with whatever we're told in a lot of ways. And
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: so this is you know, like a clean look. Now,
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: she's a sound engineer, super successful as that had the
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: courage to pivot, which is great.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is that does take a lot of courage
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: when people are squawking in your ear about what you
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: should be doing. So is this where the burnout comes
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: in when people aren't following you know what I mean? Like,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: you know, discovering aptitude and.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Burnout is typically where you are using basically going through
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: life using your non dominant hand. Right, you're in a
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: job where every day is just taking too much effort honestly,
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: or your main activities are things that really don't align
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: with your inateabilities and so you get worn out. And so, yeah,
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: burnout's very real, and you know, sometimes it's boredom, sometimes
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: it's burnout. It could be either very easily. But I
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: do think before one you know, pulls the ripcord or
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: puts their job on the witness stand as the problem,
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: it's it's a good idea to just see if there's
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: something you could be doing that would give you more
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: joy that's aligned to your aptitude, even if you're not
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: paid for. And then if you're completely miserable, of course,
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: you know you need to.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah what if? What if you? And I know some
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: friends that are in the situation where their kids are
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: studying like engineering, and they're struggling mightily. But they say
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: they like it, but it may not be what they're
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: good at and able to. I mean is that you
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: should have a mom a courage their kid. You know what,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: maybe I'm not going to put the pressure on you
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: to be an engineer.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's that much of a strugglerees. Yeah, sometimes
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: those degrees though, like engineering even law, are training you
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: how to think a certain way. It doesn't you're absolutely
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: going to be working as an engineer your entire life.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: And so you know, I'm a fan of these like
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: learn a skill kind of majors if you can, because
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: you'll find a way to kind of adjust it. I think,
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: as you said, life is long, yeah, and acquiring skills
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: at the younger ages is really helpful to give you
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: a foot in the door to something and then keep adjusting.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: So you know, every situation is different. But I mean,
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: if they're failing, it's probably not a fit. But if
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: they're just working really hard.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: And getting it out, yeah, yeah, I agree with that. Well,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: we have some moms who would like to ask you
• 31:14
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• 31:18
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• 31:46
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• 31:50
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• 31:52
  Speaker 1: to tell us where you're from, a little bit about yourself,
• 31:56
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• 31:59
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• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: I'm March Tatejy. I'm from Western New York. Originally, I've
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: lived all over the country. I'm very blessed to be
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: married to my soulmate for forty years and we have
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: a thirty four year old son. My husband is from India,
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: so we've been able to travel as well, which has been.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: A real joy.
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: And I've had a lot of jobs and careers in
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: my lifetime. I was Ronald McDonald's road manager in the
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: late nineteen eighties.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: It is not what I expect you to say. I
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: love that.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: Go ahead, I love it.
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: In two thousand, when we lived in two thousand and one,
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: when we lived in Connecticut, I was placed as a
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: paraprofessional in a second grade classroom, and I finally figured
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: out what I wanted to be when I grew up,
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: so I became a teacher.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Oh wow.
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: So and now I am transitioning into retirement. So you
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: said a lot of interesting things.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Great do you have it's supposed to touch you?
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Do you have a question you'd like to do?
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: You have a question?
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: How how would someone like me.
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: Figure out you know, they're at this point their aptitudes
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: and how they how they fit into my interests at
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: this point in my life as a over sixty year
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: old woman ready to you know, not really go anywhere
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: from nine to five and get paid to do it.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're talking about your five to nine exactly. Yeah.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: Now I love your I love your question because I
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: get this all the time. And that is truly why
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: I wrote the book is for you, and I mean
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: for everyone post twenty five. You know this, this works.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: And in the book we talk about a woman actually
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: who managed the good year blimp. Oh god, But I
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: wish i'd known you. I would have put you in
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: the Booklin McDonald, that's just that would have been a
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: tough call which one I would have put in there.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: But no, your aptitudes don't change. And you know, my
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: guess is again you would learn that you have a
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: very strong idea rate when you take this assessment, which
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: is literally a lot of teachers have that, writers have this,
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: journalists have this, bloggers have this, trainers have this, mentors
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: have this. That would be one guest of the fifty
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  Speaker 4: two aptitudes you might be assessed on. So it would
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: give you a lot of ideas of how you could
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: use these these skills that you clearly honed and find
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: new ways around it. Sixty is so not over. Okay,
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: that's number one. One person we UH talked to in
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: the in the book is actually the White House Usher
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: who was seventy took this and he scored the same
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: as he had scored thirty years prior taking the very
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: expensive assessment. So again, your aptitudes won't change. So I
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: would encourage you to do it and revisit so many
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: options you may have put on the back burner. And
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: I'm going to also send you a little booklet I
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: made of hobbies that aligned to each aptitude. So I'll
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: send that to you.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Oh that's great, that's awesome. And yeah, and then and
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: then if you pick up a copy of your Hidden Genius,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: you can take the test. It's I think there's a
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: gone there. Yeah, you definitely it's really easy. I did it. Yeah,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: it's a great.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: Thank you have your future. I thank you, it's a great.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Hannah, welcome to the Mom's Club.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about yourself, and do you
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: have a question for Betsy.
• 35:55
  Speaker 7: Yes, Hi, I'm Hannah Hulsey. I live in Charlotte, Tennessee,
• 36:00
  Speaker 7: out an hour west of Nashville. I have had a
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: lot of career changes in my life. I was in
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: the military straight out of high school and then left
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: to become a midwife and did out of hospital birth
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: for a while until there's different midwives.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: It's a whole thing.
• 36:22
  Speaker 7: But I'm back in school now for nurse midwif free
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: finished my nursing degree and now I'm in school to
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: be a nurse midwife with a dream of owning a
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: birth center one day. So I feel like being a
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: business owner really calls to me. I would have loved
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: a test like this to like guide that, and maybe
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: I would have landed here sooner, but I found that later.
• 36:47
  Speaker 7: My question revolves around my own kids. I have three
• 36:50
  Speaker 7: of them. I have a four year old, a twelve
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: year old son who I have told should be a veterinarian.
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: His whole life, which is really.
• 36:58
  Speaker 8: Funny if I like the animal. That a good question
• 37:03
  Speaker 8: because now I'm wondering for him and my sixteen year
• 37:06
  Speaker 8: old is it too soon to have them to napt
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: to toude test or is this something that we wait
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: a little longer for.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I really recommend they do sort of a younger
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: version of this when you're twelve in the school systems
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: now about twenty five percent of all US high schools
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: use this now. But really, your aptitudes are not fixed
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: until you've gone through puberty, so it is dependent on
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: how maybe mature or you know, ready the person can be.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: I mean some boys, for example, they need to be
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: twenty five. I think are not every boy. But now
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: we recommend it really about sixteen seventeen years old, because
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: that is the critical time where, boy, the choices are
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: expensive going forward, and you know, you really need to
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: have at least some general idea and direction so you
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: don't make a huge misstep. I love the idea that
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: you're back in nurse mid whippery school. I love that
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: so much. I think I read I'm from Tennessee too,
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: that five people in the Vanderbilt class of one hundred
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: in medical school or over fifty right now. And so
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: you know, again there's different zigs and zags we take
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: that bring us to where we are. And there's probably
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: a pattern of your life that has led you to
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: this and it will relate to your aptitude.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: So for super encouraging, that's great.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Chelsea, welcome to the Mom's Club. Tell us a
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: little bit about yourself. Where you're from and do you
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: have a question for Betsy.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Yes, Hi, I'm Chelsea. I'm here from Austin, Texas. I
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: have four little ones. I have been a hairstylist my
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: whole life. When I was like when I was little,
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: I remember cutting my Barbie's hair and I would make
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: I would get kool aid and make paste and like
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: highlight my Barbie's hair. So I'm very lucky that my
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: job's never really felt like work to me. And there's
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: a lot of, you know, different ways that I can go.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: But my question is about my Kiddo's also my son
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: who he's very gifted. He's very naturally gifted with sports,
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: and I kind of struggle between how to you know,
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: make sure that school and something that he can actually
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: go on to a career with isn't overshadowed by playing sports,
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: and you know, how to kind of make sure that
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: sports stay as kind of more of a hobby and fun,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: and then you know he can He doesn't really like school,
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: doesn't like to learn, you know, it's just sports, sports ball,
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, my guest number one is he I mean, again,
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: there's fifty two aptitudes, but my guess is for sure
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: he's probably a three D visualizer, which is that you know,
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: paper folding exercise that menaces so many people that for
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: him it's probably very easy. We do find a lot
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: of people who aren't as big fans of the lecture
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: in school. They more like the lab or they like
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: the hands on something. They tend to be three D
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: visualizers and that's a huge gift. And what you want
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: to do is, of course explore different ways he's going
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: to be able to use that, and I would recommend
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: taking this assessment because it'll open his mind to those options.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: But also i'd say, you know, kids that are doing
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: sports at a level like you're discussing or really loving it,
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: that is such a great discipline that carries over of
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: course to other things in their life, that commitment, that focus.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: So you want to talk to him also about how
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: that's so amazing that he has those aspects of it.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: It's not just about winning or playing, it's about these
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: other lessons that he's getting from doing it. And I
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: wouldn't worry about him a bit. I just make sure
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: he stays in school because it'll broaden his options going forward.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I think he'll discover a lot in this
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: assessment of other things that he could be doing outside
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: of the classroom that will pay him eventually and will
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: be educational opportunities for him that he just may not realize. Yeah,
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: that's true, So that's great.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I mean I have to say that most people who
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: probably read your book take the test don't feel as
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: lost any longer about whether it's in the career or
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: what they're going to do next. I mean, Marge and
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: I might start a group together, but I'm just saying, like, yeah,
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: what we're going to do next. But I'm just saying
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: in general, I mean, I think that's a normal feeling
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: for a lot of people who have maybe stepped away
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: from what they were doing to do something else and
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: are now looking for the next thing.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's totally normal. And having an object view of yourself.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: People don't give themselves that. You know, we're sort of
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: lost and thinking we have to figure this out on
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: our own, and you don't, you don't. There's lots of
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: these are these are the types of resources to start
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: the journey with again and just be encouraged. There's you know,
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: life is long and it's exciting.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm excited that you have this, this book
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: available to everyone in this I can't wait test and
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: where can we find it? We have the book here? Yes,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: so everyone, which is amazing. As we sell our club book,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: where can we find the book and where can we
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: find you? On social media? And so everybody knows like
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: to take the online test if they and they can
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: do all this online as well.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: Well, you know you've got the book there and I'd
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: love for you to hould it up on the back.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: There's a sticker and every book includes a code to
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: go online and take the assessment. You start at your
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: Hidden Genius dot com and it'll get you right into
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: the assessment. But you, of course can purchase the book
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: anywhere books are sold Amazon, et cetera. And my personal
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: you know, social is just Betsy Will's on Instagram. But
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: I would say, go to the website you're hidding genius
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: dot com and it'll open your mind to lots of
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: there's lots of resources like for your hobbies, what to
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: do with your scores, how to use your scores to
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: write your own LinkedIn profile, to redo your resume. I mean,
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: all that stuff is there, so wow, fascinating.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Betsy. This has been great, and
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: I can't wait for Julie to take hurt aptitude tests
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: because who knows, maybe we'll start a funeral home together.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's where we maybe they were right a long
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  Speaker 1: time ago.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: Maybe that's what we're going to have the best most
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• 43:50
  Speaker 1: She will, she will. You can even steal those little
• 43:53
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• 43:55
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• 43:55
  Speaker 2: It is kind of cute.
• 43:56
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  Speaker 1: Find me, they will well. Thank you so much, ladies,
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  Speaker 2: I'm super excited about digging in further to this.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Well, Julie, I'm gonna gift you since I got to
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I can't wait to hear all about all that.
• 46:01
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• 46:12
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• 46:15
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• 46:16
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• 46:18
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• 46:21
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