Latest / The Avid Indoorsmen / A.I. EP. 199: The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - “YOU SHALL NOT PASS!”
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- 0:00Dead and Biden. The sun is shining, not a cloud in the sky,
- 0:04and we wouldn't know because we're so happy inside. Some people boot on
- 0:12some skis, but we would rather sit on down and talk some movies.
- 0:17Where the Avid Indoorsmen come listen to our show. We're the abod Indoorsmen at
- 0:25home on the go. We're the Avid indoors Man. We hope you so
- 0:31come on in and stay. We'll do our best to make you smile.
- 0:35We're indoors man. What is happening? I'm Rob blunt Quist and I'm Beat
- 0:43Looks and we're the Avid Indoorsmen. How are you, buddy? Oh man,
- 0:48it has been a day over here, buddy, really, what's going
- 0:52on? Well? So, I don't remember you've never had braces, right,
- 0:57did you ever? I did? I did. I didn't have it
- 1:00for as long as a lot of people, but I did have Do you
- 1:03have the permanent retainer afterward? Yeah? Okay, so I do as well.
- 1:07I had him on top and bottom because I'm nasty like that. But
- 1:11my bottom one broke last week and not like in a way that it was
- 1:18poking me, but in a way that it was annoying and I knew it
- 1:22was gonna be a problem at some point, and I was like, well,
- 1:25no big deal, I had these twenty years ago. This is bound
- 1:26to happen. I'll just make a phone call around. Turns out Orthodonis will
- 1:32not work on you unless you were their patient originally, so weird. Yeah.
- 1:37I called like eight places and finally I was like, so I get
- 1:42the feeling that everyone wants me to just screw off basically, and the one
- 1:45lady was like, well, it's not that, but kind of. And
- 1:48I was like really, like I'm not gonna be able to get in anywhere.
- 1:51She was like nope. So I called my place up in Bomidgee,
- 1:53Minnesota, where I got them and then drove there and back today. You
- 2:00went all the way to be Midgi today and back. Yeah. Well,
- 2:04so, like I was calling and I was finally like, well, I'm
- 2:07gonna I need to get this done. This is gonna be a problem.
- 2:09Yeah, And so I called them and I was like, so what do
- 2:13you think, Like, do you guys find this to be true? And
- 2:15they were like, yes, that is a thing. We don't really know
- 2:16why, but it is, but we can try to get you in.
- 2:21And then they were like, well, I have something today in four hours,
- 2:25and I was like, well, I can barely make that, so
- 2:28what else do we got? And they were like, he's going out of
- 2:30town, so it'll be four weeks otherwise, and I was like, okay,
- 2:35I guess. So it took a little sick time and yeah, and
- 2:42actually I like driving, so it really wasn't a bad deal. The weather
- 2:49was good, it was sunny, it wasn't super warm, but whatever,
- 2:52I don't I wore shorts. I don't care. But it's just been weird.
- 2:55So I yeah, I went there, grabbed a piece of pizza,
- 3:00get back. Oh yeah, yeah, like two minutes ago. So wow,
- 3:04it's just been a weird morning day. I guess your teeth are feeling
- 3:08good. I feel great and it they look great. They charged me,
- 3:13I think sixty bucks or something for all of it. Touched him all up.
- 3:17They were super nice and really cool. She even gave me like a
- 3:21gift card because she was like, I'm so sorry you had to come all
- 3:24the way here, and I was like, it's I mean, it is
- 3:28what it is. It was a little adventure, so yeah, I went
- 3:30on my own little quest today. Well let's give him a shout out,
- 3:34what is this orthodonistic orthodonics? If you're ever up there and the need to
- 3:38go check them out. It was really funny because I got to talk with
- 3:40them. They built this new place like right after I started, so I
- 3:45was like, well, I know how long you guys have been here,
- 3:46and it's been a long time. I got to chat with the doctor for
- 3:50a second and he was like, yeah, it's weird. Well I'm glad
- 3:53you could come back. Teeth are looking good. I was like, yeah,
- 3:57cool, that's hilario. I'm gonna drive home now, see you later.
- 4:01I have no idea. I guess mine would be in Brooklyn. I'm
- 4:04just gonna have to be very careful with that thing. I guess yeah.
- 4:08And I don't know if maybe I could have pushed it, But like I
- 4:11was, just it was weird. It was very strange. I just can't
- 4:14imagine. I guess it's a liability issue. It doesn't matter, no one
- 4:16cares. I went on a long drive, so I feel like I'm I
- 4:19also had caffeine today, which is a midweek thing. I don't usually do
- 4:24that. So we'll see what happens. It's gonna be a little crazy.
- 4:26Well, I mean that's like, what seven hours of driving then? Yeah?
- 4:30Just about eight? Yeah, yeah, real close. So yeah,
- 4:33it was it was It was a lot. It was my whole day.
- 4:36It was your whole day. Yeah. But here I am. How are
- 4:40you? I'm good, I'm very good. Well, why don't we just
- 4:43get into what the movies are? What was the last one that you watched?
- 4:46Yeah, so I went to the theater last week, I think it
- 4:51doesn't matter and saw Dungeons and Dragons. I was going to talk about that
- 4:56too. We did it again, got we're good at stuff. That's a
- 5:00kind of stuff. I really liked this movie. I thought it was very
- 5:02fun, um like really charming cast I was super into it. Of course,
- 5:09Chris Pine is just always a home run. It's still like he's great.
- 5:12Michelle Rodriguez was really fun. Justice Smith I liked him a lot.
- 5:17Sophia Lillis didn't get a ton to do, but I liked what she brought
- 5:21to the table. She was really fun. Was she the the red headed
- 5:26one? Yes? Okay, yes, and I thought she was fun.
- 5:29She was the shape shifter, she turned the shape shifter. I couldn't think
- 5:31of what she was called the owl bear bear owl, bear owl. I
- 5:35think it's the other way. Uh. And then like Hugh Grant is in
- 5:40it. There's just a bunch of people that are in it, and it's
- 5:42all very fun. It's sort of a classic tale involving a ton of D
- 5:46and D stuff. So I know the largest DN D aficionado we both know
- 5:51loved it. Yeah, he texted us right away. I was like,
- 5:55I called DIBs, Yeah, and maybe we could do an episode on it.
- 5:59It was fun. I had a really nice time. But yeah,
- 6:01it's it's a super fun movie if you like sort of I don't even know
- 6:08what you would call it, like kind of nerdy action movies with like a
- 6:11little bit of fantasy stuff in there and some magic. I think you'll enjoy
- 6:14this. It's a it's more of a romp than it is like a fantasy
- 6:17fantasy movie I think anyway. But you'll be a really good judge of that.
- 6:21So what did you think of it? I also thought it was very
- 6:25fun. I know almost nothing of dungeons and dragons, so I don't know
- 6:30if it's like accurate for those folks, but I found it to be very
- 6:33entertaining. I used the word charming as well in my just crispines so charming
- 6:41as word charming, so we roll our own. Who really are I know?
- 6:46But I think it might be my favorite thing Michelle Rodriguez has ever done.
- 6:50I think she was very funny and like she kind of had to be
- 6:57serious a few times, but because she was so funny it hit harder later.
- 7:00Yeah, I agree. And yeah, I mean she's always fine and
- 7:05everything she does, but I thought she was exceptional in this. I feel
- 7:09like usually she just kind of gets to be kind of like a brooding badass,
- 7:13and she was like and sillier, like you said, which I thought
- 7:16was fun. Yeah, it was that. It was really fun. My
- 7:18favorite thing will always be blue Crush, but I get it. Yeah,
- 7:23I don't. I saw the other one I saw, Yeah, probably was
- 7:27that the Kate Bosworth one. Yes, because I watched the Jessica Alba Paul
- 7:30Walker one, and I always get those two, which is so funny because
- 7:33you kind of fall into one or the other because I never saw the other
- 7:36one, yeah, which is like what a dumb one of those things where
- 7:42they both came out like within the same times of each other. Yeah,
- 7:46but definitely love Dungeons and Dragons on her among thieves would recommend, and yeah,
- 7:51my guess is that they'll keep making these because I don't know why not.
- 7:56Yeah, And that's kind of the thing. So there there are sort
- 7:59of like classic tropes and monsters that you see in various campaigns in there,
- 8:05but it's kind of like dungeons and dragons and that it can be sort of
- 8:09whatever you want it to be and whatever the players lead it to be.
- 8:13So it's it's fun. Yeah, I think they could do it for like
- 8:16ever. Probably I would watch that stuff. I thought it was really fun.
- 8:20Yeah, real silly, real fun. I'm with you. That's cool.
- 8:24Even streaming. So I streamed a movie that I know we've talked about
- 8:28before, but I recently finished the book, so I had to rewatch it.
- 8:31I finished The Count of Monte Cristo. Oh you so, the one
- 8:37that you love so much? That version already Okay, the one with what's
- 8:41his name? He played, not the Jesus. He played Jesus, sorry
- 8:46Jesus. Different guy. Yes, Jim Caviezel played Edmond Dantez. Guy Pierce
- 8:52is in this war. He's super fun. I really love him in it.
- 8:58Good Harris is in it. I believe it's Richard Harris, the original
- 9:01Dumbledore, not his son, but the other guy, Henry Cavill with a
- 9:07little stealth performance and there I don't think I remember that he's the son Albert.
- 9:13And then dang Mara Deminsic. Oh, yeah, who is in succession
- 9:20right that we've been watching recently, So fun to see her. She's Mercedes
- 9:24in this. The movie is great. I did follow a little bit victim
- 9:30to Wow, they really had to cut a lot out of this like thousand
- 9:35page book to make this movie work. But I still really like the movie
- 9:39and I always have. I think it's really fun and it was kind of
- 9:43fun to see some of those like little homages to the books that I wouldn't
- 9:48have recognized if I hadn't read it, So that's always kind of fun.
- 9:50And I really liked the book. I thought it was super interesting, a
- 9:54lot darker than the movie was, which I don't think is better worse.
- 10:00It's just different, um and to kind of do both of them back to
- 10:03back is it's kind of fun that they're different to me, So yeah,
- 10:07it was fun. It was a nice experience, the kind of Moni Christo
- 10:09that's by dumb ass correct Yes, yes, mister dumb ass himself. Yes,
- 10:13I thought so, Yeah, I love that name. It's the best.
- 10:20It's a good one. I'd love to read because he did Three Musketeers
- 10:24as well, right, I don't remember. I think he did. I'd
- 10:28be interested in reading that now too. Did you do the other one that
- 10:33Leo did, the Man in the Iron Mask? Because it kind of see,
- 10:37yeah, they do seem similar, don't. He's funny, he's he
- 10:41writes, it's so interesting. I always think of like these older classic books
- 10:46as sort of being kind of hoity toity, but he like kind of breaks
- 10:50the fourth wall and talks to you as a reader a couple of times throughout
- 10:54the book and stuff, and it's just it felt less like that than I
- 10:58sort of thought it was less duffy, And I was like, well,
- 11:01yeah, they probably were just more or less just like us now, right,
- 11:03Like they're just trying to have a nice time and engage people. So
- 11:07it was fun. I really liked both, So read it, watch it,
- 11:11do both. I don't care. Have fun right on? Yeah,
- 11:13how about you? What have you been streaming? I watched something much more
- 11:16recent than that. It's the new season of Ted Lasso. It's my season
- 11:22three so episode five that was the last one. You're all caught up?
- 11:28Yes, yes, so love the show. It's been. This season,
- 11:35though, has not been as like happy, go lucky, feel good as
- 11:39previous two. Definitely some laughs, but it's it's a little heavier this season,
- 11:46and they've added a few new characters that have been very fun. But
- 11:50man, I'm just bummed that this is the last season. Like it's already
- 11:54episode five, and I'm like, how are they gonna wrap this up?
- 11:58I'm interested to see, but I have a real idea where they're gonna go.
- 12:03I'm with you. I also don't really know, and I guess we
- 12:07just have to trust them. They've been good to us so far, and
- 12:09I'm sure it'll be fun. I don't I was thinking about the other day.
- 12:13I was like, I don't even know what, like what would a
- 12:16satisfying ending be to me? And I have no idea, you know,
- 12:20like and not in a crappy way, just like a oh like it's there's
- 12:24not like an like something. It feels like we've been going toward this whole
- 12:28time, right, you know what I mean? So yeah, I don't
- 12:31know, but it's been a fun ride and I've been super here for this
- 12:33season. I think they're they've been ratcheting up the drama quite a lot,
- 12:37which has been fun. Let me into that, So yeah, I like
- 12:41it too? Nice should we do? If you plug a Rooney's yes,
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- 13:41five draft that pertains to the movie we're talking about, and for this one,
- 13:46we thought we would do our top five movie jewelry draft. Yes,
- 13:52jewels in film. I guess. I love it. Yeah. Should be
- 13:58fun. Yeah, there's some there's something to choose from. It'll be good.
- 14:01Yeah. Yeah, I found I found a nice list. I even
- 14:03found a few weird ones. So I thought of one as I was clicking
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- 14:11will pick it because I'm excited. I'm very happy. Yeah, I'm excited
- 14:16for that. Can't wait, can't wait. I also can't wait to get
- 14:20started on this episode. Guys, we're really doing it. It's time for
- 14:24the Lord of the Rings, the Fellowship of the Ring, and so we
- 14:28had to get one of our favorite fellows that we really do ship here on
- 14:33the pod with us. You know him and love him. Welcome back,
- 14:35Neil Gosh, what's up, buddy, Hey see, good to see you
- 14:43too. It's been so excited to have you back and to talk about such
- 14:48a fun movie. Oh, I know you can barely contain your excitement here.
- 14:54Oh bro, I'm excited, I'm nervous, I'm clammy, I'm sweated.
- 14:56But it's going to be. He's been wanting to do this and it's
- 15:00the first episode, and that we've been doing this thing for a long time,
- 15:03so I can't even imagine. This has to be your biggest fandom,
- 15:07right, big, He's pretty nerdy about some stuff. Um, he freaked
- 15:15out, like the Harry Potter stuff, as you know. Sure, yeah,
- 15:18but it's probably between those two things. I mean, you love yourself
- 15:22some Marvel too, but yeah, I still think it's probably this. This
- 15:26was definitely my first big love. As far as like fantasy stuff like the
- 15:33Ninja Turtles were a different thing, I feel yeah, I think that I
- 15:37wouldn't be number one, But yeah, this was also just like pretty,
- 15:43I mean, it was revolutionary, so it's understandable that this is something to
- 15:48latch onto. Yeah. It also hit us at like the primetime based on
- 15:54when it came out right, um the movies. Anyhow, we can get
- 15:58into all this stuff at a later point. I'm very excited. Make sure
- 16:02to follow at the wise Ghosh on all the social media's to hear Nei'll be
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- 16:11It's lovely and going home free music dot Com slash tour to find a place
- 16:15where you can go say hi to him, do it and all these boys
- 16:18out on the room. Yeah, that's true. That is true. That's
- 16:21fun. That's fun. Rob. I think you should get us started on
- 16:25the well, wait, what is the anniversary? It is the well this
- 16:29came out in the two thousand and one right, So the reason we're doing
- 16:33it is because the Return of the King is having its twentieth anniversary this year.
- 16:37That's right, that's right. That's very fun. Yep, yeah,
- 16:41very crazy. But Rob, can you get us started with a rough synopsis?
- 16:47Yes, the future of civilization rests in the fate of the One Ring,
- 16:52which has been lost for centuries. Powerful forces are unrelenting in their search
- 16:57for it. But fate is play. Is it in the hands of a
- 17:00young hobbit named Frodo Baggins, who inherits the Ring and steps into legend.
- 17:07A daunting task lies ahead for Frodo when he becomes the Ring bearer to destroy
- 17:11the One Ring in the fires of Mount Doom, where it was forged.
- 17:19I would really really like to hear a whole like retelling of this story.
- 17:25It's sort of in that like kind of making fun of it, you know
- 17:29that really fun. Oh, it's very scary. You know, it's like
- 17:38the magic sword. Ben Stiller as White Goodman from Dodgeball retelling the story exactly.
- 17:47Oh, that would be fun. I like that idea. That's neat.
- 17:49Nice, Thank you, Rob. That was lovely great work. Let's
- 17:53go to Rotten Tomatoes. Critics have this coming in at a pretty rock solid
- 17:56ninety one percent. Wow, well, pretty good, pretty good. Audience
- 18:03members, just click that up a little bit to ninety five straight A.
- 18:08That's a soliday holiday. I love that. I love that. It's like
- 18:14every report guard I've ever seen. Okay, let's go in now and talk
- 18:18about what we think of this movie. Let's get into our hot hot takes.
- 18:22Oh, that's hot. That's a hot take. That's a hot tag.
- 18:26I will go first on this. I didn't want to like talk too
- 18:32much about this, but not too little. It's very confusing. I do
- 18:34love this story almost as much as any story I've ever heard. I think
- 18:40it is I say it quite a lot, and I think I think I
- 18:44really do mean it. I don't think I'm just saying it for attention completely,
- 18:47though I do desperately love attention, but it is. I think it's
- 18:51the greatest story ever told. I think it's fantastic. There's some of my
- 18:55favorite movies of all time, and the books are amazing. I reread them
- 18:59this very year, and they are such a delight. It had been a
- 19:03long time since I reread those. I just think so many of these tropes
- 19:08that came, and Tolkien invented a great many of them, and others he
- 19:14kind of stole from a number of different places, whether it's faiths like Christianity
- 19:18or Judaism, or you know, other stories we've told for a long time.
- 19:22I just think they're all awesome. As far as these movies are concerned,
- 19:26They're shot perfectly as far as I am concerned. The score is amongst
- 19:33my favorite things to accompany a movie ever. And I don't know, I
- 19:38can't remember how long they've been doing the rapped thing on Spotify, but at
- 19:42least the last several years. Mine is always Howard Shore and this music from
- 19:48the movies because I just like, I just like to pop them on when
- 19:52i'm reading or when I'm just hanging out or whatever. But they're almost always
- 19:56absolutely number one on my list of those things, which is fun. And
- 20:02yeah, I just think they did it in the only way they could have.
- 20:06They you know, they made them all at once, They filmed them
- 20:10all at once so no one could drop out or you know, any of
- 20:12these things. They had like a super great plan going in. You can
- 20:18obviously tell that these meant a ton to Peter Jackson and everyone else that was
- 20:22also involved. Just a ton of care went into them, and they It's
- 20:26not that they spared no expense, but they they did all the things they
- 20:30had to do to make it right, which I super super appreciate. It's
- 20:33got my favorite character in all of fiction, Sam Wise Gamgee, who I
- 20:37know, we'll talk about a ton. I just think he's the best in
- 20:40the whole world. I love him so much. And the Hobbits in general
- 20:44like people that I identify with, like not super special in any particular way,
- 20:48but just a solid hang and that is sort of what I want to
- 20:52be in my entire life. So I love it so much. I think
- 20:56it's fantastic. I think the like the fact that there's a very solid evil
- 21:03and good in the world is a very nice, comforting place to be.
- 21:07There's not like a ton of gray characters or plot points in the book.
- 21:11We have some of that, but not a ton, and not a lot
- 21:15in this movie for sure, but just the fact that that's out there,
- 21:18there's people working towards good and that, you know. I just the thing
- 21:22I love most about these books is sort of the thing I love about myth
- 21:26and fiction in general, is just humans can come up with stories like this
- 21:30to make sense of a world that doesn't make sense around us. And he
- 21:33came back from World War One and probably was pretty screwed up Tolkeen, you
- 21:38know, and needed some ways to get that out, and if this helped
- 21:42him at all, I'm super happy for that for him. But I'm selfishly
- 21:47really happy for myself because I just think they're amazing, super fun stories.
- 21:51And yeah, I think my hottest take is the changes that Peter Jackson made
- 21:56to this. I'm not going to say that they're all one hundred percent perfect,
- 22:00but I understand one hundred percent of them, and I don't know that
- 22:04you can adapt these to a movie any better than he did. Like I
- 22:07really, I just don't think it can happen. I think technology can change.
- 22:11But everything they did made sense, and the changes they made all moved
- 22:17to the story along in a more cohesive manner and just made it great.
- 22:19So surprise, I liked this a lot. It's very fun, smoking hot
- 22:25take buddy, I knew it was going to be scorching. Yes. Yeah.
- 22:30So I saw these movies when they came out, and I was very
- 22:33impressed with them as great story, great visual effects. But I was not
- 22:37as obsessed with these as a lot of people were, Like Ugues, I
- 22:41was casual fan of these films, much like the Star Wars stuff. I
- 22:45appreciate it, but it doesn't consume my entire being. Sure. But Man
- 22:52number nine movie on IMDb Top two fifty, well, it won four Oscars
- 22:59Best Visuals, Original Score, Makeup, and Cinematography. It was nominated for
- 23:03a bunch more. And yeah, I just thought it was a pretty amazing
- 23:08feat that Peter Jackson was able to create. Getting that many actors, a
- 23:14lot of them pretty well known big actors at the time, to give up
- 23:18that much time to film these things back to back to back. It just
- 23:22goes to show you how much they respected Peter Jackson's vision and also the source
- 23:27material, and I just thought he was able to create these worlds. They
- 23:32were super fun to look at. The Shire was so much fun. Mordor
- 23:37was terrifying. I thought each location he just really you felt like you were
- 23:41submersed in it. Howard Shore again, great music. My hot take maybe
- 23:49the most badass, terrifying thing I've ever seen a villain do. After that
- 23:55head Orc guy stabs Aragorn, he licks the blood off his blade. Then
- 24:00Ragorn spears him in the stomach. Dude pulls him closer, having the spear
- 24:06go deeper into his midsection. It's like the most badass thing I've air seen,
- 24:14terrifying. Yeah, I feel like that that move has been copied a
- 24:17couple times since this movie, but this is the first time I remember seeing
- 24:19that on screen, and it's so pretty metal. It probably happened in like
- 24:25a Samurai movie too or something, but but man, I'm with you.
- 24:27Is the first time I saw it. I loved it. I couldn't believe
- 24:30it. So cool. Yeah, so cool. Yeah, hot take,
- 24:33buddy, Thanks, I love it. Deal. What do you got,
- 24:37Bud? Yeah, I mean scorching hot, just like you guys, really
- 24:41going against the grain here. Now this is this was the book itself is
- 24:48a iconic piece of literature, especially in the fantasy genre. Basically defined a
- 24:52lot of things, the entire high fantasy genre that later based dungeons and dragons
- 24:59and pretty much everything that came after that, the general races and all of
- 25:03that stuff with orcs and elves and all that, all of that came from
- 25:06Tolkien. Like he is the architect of everything we know about the fantasy genre.
- 25:10So like this is, you know, a quintessential work. Obviously,
- 25:14the movie didn't come out until many, many many years after the book,
- 25:15but as Bux touched on, I think it was done absolute justice. I
- 25:19mean the way that it it's so much material just in this one book that
- 25:25my only right if I had one, is that the pacing in the first
- 25:27hour of the film is a little too fast, Like it happened too much.
- 25:32Stuff happens too quickly in the movie, and so it feels like it's
- 25:36happening over the course of a couple of days, when in reality it happened
- 25:37over the course of like several months in the book. So that's the only
- 25:41thing that I kind of like. The from leaving the Shire to getting to
- 25:45Breathe feels like it happens basically overnight, like in one nighttime you know that
- 25:49they're there, and that like process was a lot longer. So like there's
- 25:52some things that like the pacing was and it didn't take away from the enjoyment
- 25:56of the movie. It's just that it's a little bit of a discrepancy with
- 25:59the book in terms of how much time elapses, and it makes the journey
- 26:03feel a lot longer versus the film where it feels like everything happens kind of
- 26:07quickly. But I mean again, you're cramming like so much material into a
- 26:11even a three hour movie, is like it's just it's hard to do.
- 26:15So I think that all things considered, like you said, bugs, like
- 26:18the decisions made are really easy to understand why they chose to do that and
- 26:22how they chose to kind of condense these things down in order to get all
- 26:26that stuff into one film. The cast is rock solid. I think all
- 26:32the characters, even the side characters, are like quite fleshed out and well
- 26:36written. And that's always like when you're going from book material, it helps
- 26:38tremendously with that because you have those characters already written. You don't have to
- 26:41be conjuring that stuff up for these actors to come up with. And again
- 26:45to your point, bus about like the vision that was set forth for all
- 26:48three of these films and the cohesiveness of the trilogy as a whole is like
- 26:52really phenomenal and something that you see that ball drops so often with trilogy movies,
- 26:57Like obviously personally I feel this with Star Wars all the time. Is
- 27:02that like the sequel trilogy that just came out with Disney was a total mess,
- 27:07Like and it's it's a mess because there was no cohesive arc of how
- 27:11they saw that story going, and they gave you know, different directors the
- 27:15options to kind of do what they wanted to its storyline, and it just
- 27:18really became like super jumbled up and just not you know, not the best,
- 27:22not their best work. So having a trilogy where the story is so
- 27:27clearly architected out from the beginning and you're able to follow these things through and
- 27:33build tension appropriately and have all everything kind of like go the way that it
- 27:37does, it's great. It's a great time, and it's a great rewatch
- 27:40every single time I watched this film. So um, yeah, not a
- 27:44really scored from hot take here, but I like it to the tune of
- 27:47ninety one percent and or ninety five. That's too low, but I love
- 27:49it. Well, let's go talk about our favorite acting performance. It's time
- 27:57to name that they do. I'm the dude, so that's what you call
- 28:03me, you know that? Or who's dudes or duder or you know,
- 28:08eldu to Reno. If you're not into the whole brevity thing, Neil,
- 28:11why don't you go first for this one? Pal? You know? I
- 28:15mean, I obviously inclined to give this to mister Elijah, but just because
- 28:22by virtually the fact that he gets them the screen time, and he was
- 28:23pretty young in his career, though he was already pretty accomplished at the time
- 28:26that he did this. He does great, but there's like not really very
- 28:30many weak acting performances in this. All of the supporting cast is super strong.
- 28:34To put him down as best actor. I also think you could make
- 28:37pretty strong arguments that a lot of these share almost equal amounts of screen time,
- 28:44so it's kind of hard to differentiate between like who's supporting and who's you
- 28:47know, the lead, so to speak. But I did put him down
- 28:49as the leader I thought, you know, it's ultimately largely his story,
- 28:53so it seems appropriate. Totally love that great pick, Rob, would you
- 29:00I had to pick, I had to pick Ian McKellen is Gandolf. I
- 29:04thought I thought he was kind of perfectly cast for that role. Um.
- 29:11And I don't know that I was like super into Ian McKellen at the time.
- 29:15I think he had done. I think he was Magneto, like maybe
- 29:18the year before this came out. Yeah, I think so. Um,
- 29:22But before that, I wasn't like super I didn't know what was going on.
- 29:26I was just like, oh, so this guy is amazing, So
- 29:29I'm gonna watch everything this guy does. Um. But just yeah, such
- 29:33a such a big presence. And I know they did a lot of stuff
- 29:37with how they shot him to make it him look so much bigger than the
- 29:42proto and stuff, which was cool. But just uh, that voice,
- 29:47man, and when he would like go into the what do they call it,
- 29:49like the black something like when he would talk that really deep voice and
- 29:55we like that was always super freaky. Um. I don't know what that
- 29:57was called. Some language. Uh it was the language of yea of I
- 30:06don't remember what he says either. The black tongue. Yeah that was something
- 30:10like that. Yeah, but it probably Yeah, he's just incredible. Yeah,
- 30:17yeah, I love that. Yeah, that's a great pick. Great.
- 30:19I feel a little bit handcuffed on this one. I so just to
- 30:23expand on how much of a nerd I am about this, uh, these
- 30:26set of things. I took a college class. I paid money to read
- 30:33these books and talk about them. And it was called I can't remember what
- 30:37exactly what was called, but it was like Western literature in regard to Tolkien
- 30:42or something, and it was taught by this sweet old lady from England and
- 30:45it was just a delight. And we had to write about our favorite character
- 30:49from the stories. And I went in hard, hard on Samwi's Gamti,
- 30:56who we've already talked about. So I'm gonna pick Sean Aston. I just
- 31:00think he's amazing. I think he did a great job, so I gotta
- 31:03I gotta pick him so we can move forward. But I wrote like a
- 31:07ten page paper about why I thought Sam Wise was so great he and we'll
- 31:12get into all this, but he's a ring bearer himself and just is like
- 31:18the hufflepuffiest of all the characters. To take Harlance from a different series,
- 31:23but I just love him so much and I think he did a great job.
- 31:29Yes, did you say, had you read these books before you saw
- 31:33the films? I don't think so. I think I saw the first movie
- 31:38then read the book. I was trying to think about that, but it's
- 31:41so long ago that it's kind of hard for me to for sure remember m
- 31:47but I think that's how it went. I think we saw the first movie
- 31:51and then I was like, I'm in, let's go. So yeah,
- 31:56I think that's how it went. It's possible someone told me to read them
- 32:00first. I don't really remember, but I think I saw it and then
- 32:02read that. Cool, because I would like to submit a formal request to
- 32:07review a copy of this paper that you wrote, bro, if you can
- 32:10dig it I have, I would like to see I have the worst news.
- 32:13I looked for it hard, and I don't think I have it anymore,
- 32:16which is a Bummerandrea level lost to the World must say. I mean,
- 32:24it was like, and I feel so bad about this because I'm such
- 32:28a jerk. Probably the hardest paper I've ever worked on in my entire career.
- 32:32It was just like rollaway class. Yeah. Man, man, it
- 32:39was really fun though that that sweet little lady. I'm sure she's not around
- 32:44anymore, but man, she was awesome. And it was like a half
- 32:46a semester. It was a three credit class that was only half a semester,
- 32:51so it was every single day. It was wild. It was damns,
- 32:53it's a lot of Lord of the Rings. That's fun. Yeah,
- 32:57it was so fun. I loved it. It was great, felt very
- 33:00coddled and nice and that. So, yeah, I'm gonna pick Sean,
- 33:02asked him. But I agree, the rest of this crew is amazing,
- 33:07and maybe we just talk about him right now and let's talk about some to
- 33:10j who you got for this, Boddy? So for this one, I
- 33:15have Vigo Mortenson. I picked Aragorn as my supporting I thought, again,
- 33:22this was like spoiled with riches, right, because the entire fellowship that everybody
- 33:27kills their their roles. But I thought he was He brought the most like
- 33:30emotional depth, I thought to his character, and in general they kind of
- 33:36gave him the most to work with in terms of his character having a very
- 33:38deep, interesting backstory and all that kind of stuff. But yeah, he
- 33:42was. He was fantastic. This like was the movie that spawned like a
- 33:45whole generation of heart robby Vigo Mortenson fans, and so he you know,
- 33:50did the whole thing. He flipped the whole script on like nineties clean cut
- 33:52boy band into like dirty like you know, outdoorsy guys with five o'clock shadow
- 33:59and dirty leathers on. So I think it just smells bad. Credit for
- 34:06his piercing blue eyes and his unwavering bravery. Love that in that stint she
- 34:10could smell for a mile. Love it. Yeah, I couldn't have said
- 34:15it better myself, but I absolutely picked him as well. I thought he
- 34:19was such a stud. Um. Just to say, somebody else that hasn't
- 34:22been mentioned, Kate Blanchet is Gladriel. Um. Yeah, I thought she
- 34:30was wonderful. Doesn't get a ton of screen time, but she is the
- 34:32narrator and she has a very just soothing voice. I thought that they did
- 34:37a very good job picking her to narrate. I'm also loving h Rings of
- 34:45Power. The woman who was playing Gladriel. She is so good awesome.
- 34:50I can't remember her name. It's uh, it's Morphid Clark Morphid. I
- 34:54was like, it's something, yeah, you know, not I'm not super
- 34:59never se And then there it is. Yes, Chet was wonderful and she
- 35:05also had like a when she's offered the ring and she gets all crazy.
- 35:10That's that was a fun scene for sure. Have you watched The Rings of
- 35:16Power? Yeah, watched it. I've watched the first episode, maybe two.
- 35:22I hope I watched the rest of the series. I need to catch
- 35:24up on that, you do. That was wonderful and like I said,
- 35:28super casual lord of the Ring guy. But that was so much fun and
- 35:32just the production value alone, it's just it's bonkers. So it's crazy and
- 35:37you get some really rob We can talk about it at some point. I'll
- 35:40probably come up when we're talking about these but what she says in that scene
- 35:45is heavily featured previously in the Rings of Power as well. And that's real
- 35:50fun. That's real fun. Nice, that's awesome, It's nice. Yeah.
- 35:52Yeah, that's a great pick. Both of those are great picks.
- 35:54I love both of those. Uh. I just want to echo what both
- 35:59of you said. I mean, our dude as Frodo is perfect. I
- 36:06honestly, everyone's perfect, but he's so good. Elijah Wood so great.
- 36:09Um and Gandolf is just perfect in this as well. And we don't even
- 36:15get to see him at his craziest yet in this movie. Um, you
- 36:19know, I can still remember my nerdy friend asked me who my favorite character
- 36:22was in the first book, and I was like, I really like Gandolf.
- 36:25He's pretty great. And he's like, well, yeah, but he's
- 36:29like still a pretty murky character by the time you see him, so you're
- 36:31really gonna like him later. And I was like, oh, like you
- 36:36fine, Hugh and I but yeah, so love those But we should give
- 36:40a shout out to scene bean. Mister mister Sean been as good as Bremer.
- 36:47Uh, He's fantastic in this He was great. Is fighting the power
- 36:53of the ring as hard as he can. He's not winning a lot as
- 36:57we find out. Um a super fun character and obviously doesn't show up a
- 37:04lot in later. Dude takes three arrows to the mid section and just he's
- 37:12still He's still breathing for a while after that, what a step, still
- 37:15just mowing people down. And little did we know we were going to see
- 37:21him die in like movies every year for the rest of our times, movies
- 37:27and TV shows. I'll work, but not for a long time. I
- 37:35just done, like a get in get out, get on with your life
- 37:37kind of guy. But yeah, I thought he did a great job with
- 37:39that character who was really conflicted and fun um and then shout out to Mary
- 37:45and Pippin, who are just the best. Of course, have you listened
- 37:46to their podcast, by the way, No, I need to. I
- 37:51need to. I've been kind of you know, like that's it, but
- 37:53I've heard it because of rop being in the same bar. Totally. Yeah,
- 37:58I kind of I didn't want before I knew we were going to do
- 38:02these podcasts, so I just didn't want to steal everyone else's takes on everything.
- 38:06So I've been I just read the books and I've just been kind of
- 38:07chilling. But now now I can go in on it. It'll be fun.
- 38:10You guys seen in the I think it was in the DVDs of these
- 38:15in the like extra features, there was a prank phone call between Don Monahan
- 38:20and Elijah Wood. Have you guys seen this video? THERE'DEO, okay,
- 38:23this it's fantastic. Please after we're done with this, look it up on
- 38:28you to I'll send the link to you guys. It's basically it's Don Monahan
- 38:31who plays Mary, and he calls Elijah Wood when they were like filming other
- 38:36stuff after the movie came out, and he pretends to be like a German
- 38:39radio DJ, and they're filming both sides, but Elijah Wood can't see his
- 38:45so like there you're seeing both of their reactions to this conversation. But for
- 38:49Elijah Wood, it's just a phone call, and so it's it's absolutely hysterical.
- 38:54I've watched it many many times, and I will send it to you
- 38:58guys because it's great fun. Yeah, yeah, send me a link because
- 39:01I'll throw it in the show notes. Yeah, that's great. What other
- 39:07runners up? Do we have any runners up for you boys? For sure?
- 39:10Man? Um, John Rees Davies is gimili give so great, Um
- 39:17so great, He's wonderful. Um. Christopher Lee is surman. Yeah.
- 39:23Man, well, I was gonna say Christopher Lee, and he's his whole
- 39:29story is absolutely bonkers. Like just deep dive his Wikipedia sometime because every single
- 39:36thing about his life sounds made up. It's ridiculous. It's absolutely ridiculous.
- 39:39He's like related to Charlemagne, He like fought in the Wars, he played
- 39:45in a rock band, Like everything about him sounds completely fake. It's crazy.
- 39:52Yeah, he was He was so good in this very very scary,
- 39:54especially in that wizard fight. M Yes, the wizard fight was so fun,
- 40:01like spindly fingers when he's like controlling the has his hand over the over
- 40:06the order, all that stuff, like pointy black fingernails. It's great.
- 40:09And that voice is just so crazy great voice. It's so really good voice.
- 40:15Um Ian Holme is Bilbo. I thought he was great. He just
- 40:19passed away I think last year. Yeah, yeah, so I found out
- 40:24in the trivia that he was the voice of Frodo when they did the radio
- 40:30play for BBC at one point, which I want to get my hands on
- 40:34if anyone knows how to find a BBC play, I would love to hear
- 40:37that. Yeah. Is that sounds fun? But that's kind of neat that
- 40:40he did that and then got to play Bilbo. It's cool. I like
- 40:45that. Um and then I who else is there? Orlando Bloom was great?
- 40:51Yeah. Um, he doesn't get to do a ton in this first
- 40:53one, especially, but he's really fun. I always really liked. Yeah,
- 40:57he was a nobody at that point, very much like an elf.
- 41:00Yeah. I think he good looking guy had just graduated acting school or something,
- 41:06or maybe it was about too when he got cast or something like that.
- 41:09There's some story out there about that. Uh and shout out to Sarah
- 41:13mcclead who is Rosie Cotton, who just be still my beating heart. She's
- 41:21so cute, so funny. H Hugo Weaving as l Ron is another one,
- 41:25who's I mean, he's a great call. Duh. Yes, absolutely,
- 41:30he looks like an elf. He looks like he would be for sure.
- 41:34That was a good casting calls so good. What did you guys think
- 41:37about liv Tyler? I'm into it. Yeah, though she was great.
- 41:43I thought you did a great job, Yeah, for sure, and kind
- 41:45of like tough. Not a lot of lady parts in the book, a
- 41:51little bit of the product of his time. I mean, you know,
- 41:53she's mentioned, but they gave her more to do, which again I appreciate,
- 41:58you know, a kind of update to get a little bit another one
- 42:00of those changes that felt good and right because she did an interview with Stephen
- 42:07Colbert, who's like a big Lord of the Rings fan. At some point
- 42:10this is like fairly recent, and at some point she's like like cradling him
- 42:15like a baby, like he's like in her lap, and she's like speaking
- 42:19Elvish. It's very funny. Yah. Yeah, he's like a huge nerd
- 42:27like Tolkien guy, right, I think just in general he's a huge yeah
- 42:30right, yeah, yeah. He goes deep on the Lord. Like the
- 42:32references that he makes sometimes in passing during jokes. I'm like, that is
- 42:36not casual knowledge. Man. You know these books like a way over my
- 42:40head. For sure. It's still Merillian stuff. All that's the same of
- 42:46the true man lad right there. Yeah, I still haven't got all the
- 42:51way through that someday someday, but yeah, I think we've named every that's
- 42:57pretty much everybody cool? Great, All right, y'all did y'all did great?
- 43:01Well, why don't we pick our favorite scene and let's choose so Dingas.
- 43:09It's quite simple, really, Bengass, I could talk about my Dingas
- 43:13all eye long, tough one. What do you got for this one?
- 43:15Neil? So I, okay, well, I don't know that my pick
- 43:19is going to be everybody's pick, but this is a scene that to me
- 43:22is like super iconic, and the visuals in the scene stuck with me forever,
- 43:27and I still think to this day that is the one of the best
- 43:29scenes in any like sci fi fantasy genre film, and it is when Gandolf
- 43:34is fighting the ball Rock actually that entire thing. So the entry of the
- 43:37ball Rog we see only the glowing like flame down the hallway. We don't
- 43:43see what it actually looks like. And then it's they're being sort of chased
- 43:45around and we don't see like the reveal of it until it comes through the
- 43:49flames, and it's just it's like the camera work is great too, because
- 43:52it zooms like Gandolf turns and looks at the fire and it's sort of eye
- 43:57level with him, and it zooms in and then just tramatically pans upwards and
- 44:00you see how big this thing is and it just emerged the fire and then
- 44:05that whole fight is phenomenal. But I'm like a big sucker for like scale,
- 44:08especially with like, you know, big epic moments, bad guy fights
- 44:13that kind of thing. So love that whole scene. And then obviously the
- 44:17whip and all that stuff, and the follow up of what we see happens
- 44:21afterwards and the next film is also really cool. But yeah, that's my
- 44:24that's probably my personally favorite scene in this movie. I think is like one
- 44:28of the most striking visuals too. Is like the glowing white of Gandal's staff
- 44:31and then the flames and black smoke coming off of the ball rock. Kind
- 44:35of it's great, dude, and you get I mean, it's It's the
- 44:38most iconic line for me in the movie, in that scene. And I
- 44:45will say though, there was the only time where I was like, oh,
- 44:49the cgi isn't one hundred percent and it was weird. It was in
- 44:52that scene and it's not the ball rock. It was when they're on the
- 44:58stairs and he's like leaning forward and then he comes up, then the whole
- 45:01thing looks a little rough for the only time in a twenty two year old
- 45:07movie where you know, there's a ton of see so much. Yeah,
- 45:12Like that was the only time where I was like, that wasn't a hundred
- 45:15percent great? Do you know what I mean? I mean, appreciate everything
- 45:20else more. Absolutely, I was like, oh yeah, wow, okay,
- 45:23Yeah, It's like, was that really that hard? Because you've done
- 45:28so many crazy things and just them moving on a little staircase. Yeah,
- 45:34there's saying yeah, we're done, or like did we need to see that?
- 45:38You know what I mean? Like, couldn't we have cut around that
- 45:42one shot? Still got the gist of it or whatever. You know,
- 45:45Yeah, that is interesting. I felt the same way. But I am
- 45:49totally fine picking Gandolf going up against ball Rog for the favorite scene. It's
- 45:57amazing. I would also say a her up is that Orc licking the blade
- 46:01might be my favorite thing, which I didn't even really remember it. It
- 46:06just really impressed me. This last very right unbelievable. I kind of was
- 46:15like, I can't believe I didn't remember that because it was so nuts um
- 46:20and there's a lot going on with that player is I mean, I can
- 46:22say there's some underrated fight choreography in that whole Orc ambush. Actually, Like
- 46:27in that same fight where he's fighting the Orca, he gets the he throws
- 46:30the shield that has the two points and it pins him against the tree.
- 46:34Yeah, that's a great that's a great move. And he comes in him
- 46:37with the sword so he's as if he's going to decapitate him, and he
- 46:38slips underneath it. But that's like a piece of fight choreography. It's pretty
- 46:42creative. You don't really see that move all the time. I also love
- 46:45that one shot above them as they're going down the hill to Yeah, right
- 46:50before that, as the orcs are kind of streaming down. That's such a
- 46:52cool, so cool. I also really enjoyed when Arwin is saving Frodo,
- 46:59just her white horse being chased by by the ring Raiths. That was very
- 47:02cinematic. Um, it was just the imagery was very very cool. And
- 47:07then she drops that flood on them, which was fun underrated. I forgot
- 47:14about that. I forgot about that every time I watched, and I'm like,
- 47:15that is super cool, like power that that she flexes for like a
- 47:21second is to just like sum up the flood. It's pretty awesome. Yeah,
- 47:24and it's like the horses, which is so cool, right, Yeah,
- 47:28I love how they did that to like, yeah, really neat you
- 47:30guys on that. I mean, it's really it's this is difficult. I
- 47:37want to pick the entire movie. I think you guys are probably right on
- 47:40the bridge the bridge, and especially if we include sort of the fight before
- 47:45the bridge running to the bridge, then I think it's definitely that. I
- 47:50mean that it's also like kind of the climax of the movie. It's one
- 47:53of them for sure. UM love everything about that. Love them have to
- 47:59like keep going. Um. I super like the that end that we talked
- 48:04about too, with the big fight with all the Orcs. Probably truly the
- 48:08climax of the movie. I'm really now that I'm saying it, I'm saying
- 48:13climax too much. Um, But yes, love that as well. Or
- 48:17the weather Top scene is so badass. I love that whole thing. So
- 48:23Weathertop is that big thing that they're on top of where the raiths surround them
- 48:29and that's where Frodo gets stabbed and all that stuff. Love that scene.
- 48:34And that's a little different than the book too, or at least I read
- 48:38it and I was like, oh, they did a cool interpretation of this
- 48:40a little bit, which is neat. Um really liked that the first time
- 48:45that we see like what it looks like from Frodo's point of view with the
- 48:49ring on, and like how he sees the rates behind like the hoods,
- 48:52which is pretty cool. So neat so neat. Really like that stuff a
- 48:58lot. And then I love Robbie mentioned it earlier, but when gladrielist hawking
- 49:05to Frodo, Um, and probably I liked it even more on this after
- 49:08having more time with Gladriel in the Rings of Power, but when she's talking
- 49:14to him and she refuses the ring and says all that stuff. She has
- 49:19her like big moments and you know, talks about I passed the test and
- 49:22I'll diminish into the West and all that stuff. It's just so cool.
- 49:25I love that, And that is just so ripe with subtext and you know,
- 49:31all this crazy stuff happening. So I love that as well. I
- 49:37had one other runner up was just the fellowship forming at the l Ron Council.
- 49:43That was gonna be my That was the other one I was fighting with.
- 49:45For first. It was fun because you got so great there were a
- 49:47lot of things going on, but you get bor amir Um, you see
- 49:52that he is kind of like I want this ring And then totally then it
- 49:59was a Ganda that has to go in and start screaming at him again.
- 50:02I think that's what happens basically, Yeah, which is like one of the
- 50:06more like you know times we see Gandolf get his dand up like a little
- 50:12bit. Yeah, totally, And there's like a glance between between Gandolf and
- 50:15el Rond in that scene, like as soon as Total starts talking about like
- 50:19oh we should use our enemies thing, and like you see them kind of
- 50:22look at each other like we know how this story ends, you know.
- 50:24Yeah, well, and they had just said we put the trust into man,
- 50:28and obviously Rond is like, good, fuck with that, my dude.
- 50:32Yeah, you know, look cool. But it was just fun to
- 50:36see when finally, you know, he speaks up and then everybody hears and're
- 50:42like yeah, and then they all come together and it's kind of hypes.
- 50:45Yeah, it was a good it's a good scene. I every time I
- 50:49rewatched that. The they go to a shot of Gandolf and the pity in
- 50:54his eyes because he knows that Frodo's gonna take this. And this is also
- 50:59a aviation from the book because in the book, Froto is pretty sure he's
- 51:02gonna take it the whole way, the whole time. But in this they
- 51:06make it like he has agency and chooses that, and even though Gandolf thinks
- 51:10that's the right choice, so you can just tell him being like damn it,
- 51:14like I don't this In a lot of ways, this probably doesn't work
- 51:16for you, you know, or in a lot of you know, the
- 51:21chances aren't great or whatever. But I just love that. Yeah, that's
- 51:23a good one for sure. I think I take the bridge, though,
- 51:25I think you guys are probably right. I'm down with that. Yeah,
- 51:30by the bridge, Yeah, I mean I can be convinced otherwise, but
- 51:32that's the one visually that always sticks in my mind for sure, And I
- 51:37mean it has my my favorite quote. So I feel like we should pick
- 51:42that, yeah, and go to our favorite quote. So let's go to
- 51:45show me to today, Rob. Do you want to say that favorite quote?
- 51:57Then, Robs want to stand up and deliver that. Yes, please,
- 52:01Rob, get your wizard staff. I know you have. I can't
- 52:05collect one of the ten around your home. Okay, I don't have any
- 52:08wizards. Has I do a wizard staff? Dude? I think Rupp has
- 52:13several. I've seen it. It's great. The one that he has is
- 52:17accurate, yes, lovely, but you shall not pass is pretty pretty intense.
- 52:24Good. Um. There was one that was longer that he starts with
- 52:29you cannot pass, right, Yeah, you cannot pass the flames and barrow
- 52:35you know, and then he says that he has the carrier of the flame
- 52:38and all these things. I didn't. I don't think I wrote the whole
- 52:42thing down, but yet cool. Yeah, that line's bad as it's awesome,
- 52:45bad ass. Also fun that we get to do back to back pods
- 52:49with it, because we just did forgetting Sarah Marshall where he references it was
- 52:54about to mention that too. That's great, we just did. Or maybe
- 53:00that was two pods. It'll be two pods ago because we have a movie
- 53:02game. Yes, yes, yes, I don't remember things, Neil.
- 53:06Why don't you throw some out, buddy. I wrote down a bunch,
- 53:08some long, some not so long, the from sort of roughly from the
- 53:14beginning. I had the proto saying you're late, and then a wizard has
- 53:19never made proto Baggins, nor is he early. He arrives precisely what he
- 53:22means too. It's a good one, yes, and that's our introduction to
- 53:28Gandalf right, that's the first time we see him, right, Yeah,
- 53:30that's like pretty much right at the beginning, which it's a great quoted by
- 53:36me and others, so nice. That's a good one. I wrote this
- 53:40one down and I wrote I was taking notes on my phone, so this
- 53:44is what the autocorrect wrote, and I'm gonna read it to you as that
- 53:51Volvo Basins. I am not some conjure of cheap tricks. Vole Basin,
- 54:00It's amazing. That's my task. Uh keeper's secret. Keep it safe is
- 54:07something I quote also a lot, very good one you did just to me
- 54:09recently. I did, Indeed, I did. Indeed the Sam Wise saying
- 54:15I ain't dropping No, Weiaves are honest. I wrote that one down too.
- 54:21That's an amazing quote. The wes her hottest um Sam's quote of this
- 54:28is it if I take one more step, I'll be the furthest from home
- 54:30I've ever been. It's always a little heart wrenching moment. I don't think
- 54:36that's in the book either. I think that's an original line, which is
- 54:38Wow, that's yeah, that's a great line. I could be wrong about
- 54:42that, but I think that's right. I have one of you guys might
- 54:45have mentioned this, Gladuels, even the smallest person can change the course of
- 54:49the future. I thought that's a great line. Love that line. So
- 54:52um, I have the what about breakfast, we've had it, We've had
- 54:58one yes quote about second breath. Just the matter of fact way that Pip
- 55:01says that is so funny to me. Every single time his delivery is so
- 55:06perfect, and he's got like three more after that, right because he says,
- 55:10yeah about those Yeah, Um, that one's a good one. I
- 55:20have l Ron's Uh. I was there, Gandalf, I was there three
- 55:23thousand years ago when a Silder took the ring. I was there when the
- 55:27strength of men failed. It's good too, um. And then I should
- 55:31have mentioned that first scene, by the way, that entire prologue is bad
- 55:36as Yeah, that is even just by itself, it's so good flash Honestly,
- 55:39I also really liked the beginning of the movie Flashback. You don't see
- 55:44el Ron's perspective, and so it seems like it ends differently. And then
- 55:47l Ron tells his side of the story and you see like that it was
- 55:51actually a Silder that you know, didn't do the thing he was supposed to
- 55:53be. Sorry, no, no, that was a good interjection. Um.
- 55:58I also have our wins. If you want him, come and claim
- 56:00him. That's a great line, so bad as come and claim him.
- 56:06And then, of course from the Barog fight, I have thee shall not
- 56:09pass as well as fly you fools, which is also something I think is
- 56:15that was his last line, right, yeah, right off the edge.
- 56:20Yeah. The last one I have here is is like a full paragraph.
- 56:22And I suspect bugs that you have this on yours, So why don't you
- 56:25roll into yours? Which one tell me I have so many? It is
- 56:32the I wish the ring had never come to me. I wish none of
- 56:36this had happened. And then gandals, I wish the ring had never come
- 56:39to me. I wish none of this had happened. So do all who
- 56:43live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide.
- 56:45All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given
- 56:49to us. I mean, come on, it is the great Fever.
- 56:54I love it so much that I could cry. This is a free giveaway
- 56:58for later. I could cry right now reading that I love it. That's
- 57:00Rob Red. That is an amazing quote. And that's a quote that echoes
- 57:06true in real life often, especially when like bad things are happening around us.
- 57:13So I think I've seen that come up more in the last three years
- 57:16than I would have preferred to. Absolutely, but it is an amazing I
- 57:22think it kind of speaks to the crazy stuff. He's soap, you know,
- 57:27like I sort of had mentioned, Um, I haven't done a super
- 57:30deep dive into his life and if he talked about that stuff, but it
- 57:34has to have I mean World War One where he was was just a nightmare
- 57:39in so many ways. So yeah, I love that. Uh Rob,
- 57:44did you get to do? You did your one? But in one?
- 57:46Oh yeah, I thought it was funny, like it's a legoless is like
- 57:52lembus. One small bite is enough to fill the stomach of a grown man.
- 57:58Mary says to Pippin, how many did you eat? Four? And
- 58:00then he burps and he's like, great, it's good. Um. I
- 58:07had a moment where I was like, am I partly fat? Because these
- 58:09hobbits like really over it is that? Have I taken this on? One
- 58:15that I related to quite a bit was after Gimios out Nobody tosses a dwarf.
- 58:22He leaps but is bouncing off the edge, so Leglis grabs his beard.
- 58:25He says, not the beard. Yeah, so great. I've had
- 58:31to say that to my kids. A lot um um, just one ring
- 58:39to rule them all is kind of pretty iconic. Hell yeah, I think
- 58:46um are when um when she is talking to Vigo and she's like, I
- 58:54would rather share one lifetime with you than face all the ages of this world.
- 58:59A loan, He's still my heart? That real sexy um and uh
- 59:08Sam Wise. I made a promise, mister frodo a promise. Don't you
- 59:13leave him? Samwise gamgee, And I don't mean to. I don't mean
- 59:16to, all right, Oh, I don't mean Yeah, you can keep
- 59:23saying some more, buddy, Uh okay, so many. Uh, don't
- 59:29worry Sam. Rosie knows an idiot when she sees one. He taughts us
- 59:32and then goes, does she just so worried? I love that. That
- 59:37may one thing that I will have a tough time with throughout these is some
- 59:42of them will be in the extended cut and some won't. And I won't
- 59:45remember exactly which is which because I almost always watched the extended cut, So
- 59:50you know. Uh, they're sitting down at the Prancing Pony and he sits
- 59:54down and he's like, what is that? This, my friend? Is
- 59:59a point. It comes in points. I'm getting one. I love that.
- 1:00:04I think that's so fun. Uh we have I think it's l yeah,
- 1:00:10l Ron saying cast it into the fire and it should. I think
- 1:00:15that's such a funny read of context. I love it. Uh we have
- 1:00:21the It is a gift love that that Boromere says and very memable. One
- 1:00:28does not simply walk into more door. One does not simply walk into more
- 1:00:32door. Beautiful love that. Uh, if by my life or death I
- 1:00:38can protect you, I will. You have my sword, and you have
- 1:00:42my bow and my axe. I love that, I think, I say,
- 1:00:47and my axe probably more in my regular life than I should. I
- 1:00:52don't have an axe. I will because that's totally hilarious when that's thrown in
- 1:01:00there without any like grammatical context, because it's still same thing. Love it,
- 1:01:05yep, I will do it. Like if someone's like, hey,
- 1:01:07you guys want to play games tonight, and I'll just be like, and
- 1:01:10my axe, you know, I was like, oh okay, I was
- 1:01:13gonna break ask when you would use that? Yeah, I saw you'd be
- 1:01:17confused. And my axe my acts. I also love this line. This
- 1:01:28is such a great line. It's a pity Bilbo didn't kill him when he
- 1:01:31had the chance. Speaking of Gallum pity, it was pity that stayed Buildbo's
- 1:01:37hands. Many who live deserve death, and some who die deserve life.
- 1:01:40Can you give it to them? Fro though, don't be too eager to
- 1:01:44deal out death and judgment. Oh I love that. Yeah, I think
- 1:01:47that's beautifully said he had a lot more to that as well. I thought
- 1:01:51that was a really good little monologue. Yeah. Yeah, it's super fun
- 1:01:54because that's right before the I wish the Ring had never come to me and
- 1:01:58all that stuff. That's just delightful. Um, fool of a took is
- 1:02:02a thing that comes out a lot in my everyday life. Uh oh.
- 1:02:09I just thought this reading was so fun. When he's reading the journal of
- 1:02:15is it Duran that he's reading? I think it's Duran. I get names
- 1:02:19mixed up, which present no one but in the mind when they're at the
- 1:02:22tomb and he's like drums in the deep, we cannot get out, the
- 1:02:25shadow moves in the dark. We cannot get out they are coming. Wasn't
- 1:02:30it Balin or something? Balin? Yeah, Balin Duran because it's Duran's bain.
- 1:02:36So Duran was the one we see way back in the day. Sorry,
- 1:02:39you're right, you're right, Coco, Coco. I'm not going to
- 1:02:44read her entire speech, but it's all do it read a speech you're talking
- 1:02:49about the very very first one, the very beginning. No, No,
- 1:02:52I'm actually talking about when she turns down the ring. Is that that she
- 1:03:00just says, like you offer it to me freely. I don't deny.
- 1:03:04My heart has greatly desired this. In place of a dark lord, you
- 1:03:07would have a queen, not dark, but beautiful as the morn, treacherous
- 1:03:10as the sea, stronger than the foundations of the earth. Oh, she'll
- 1:03:15love me and despair there is, and then she chills. I passed the
- 1:03:22test. I will diminish and go into the west and remain glad real.
- 1:03:27Nice, it's good, it's beautiful. I thought she did a great job.
- 1:03:30And I won't go into it now because Neil hasn't seen it. But
- 1:03:35I'm sorry after seeing Neil listen to me. I will never give you a
- 1:03:40hard time about not being caught up on a show. I won't cast that
- 1:03:44stone from my glass house, not with you, Neil. It's been trying
- 1:03:50to get me to watch Clone Wars. I was gonna say, getting at
- 1:03:52here, there's some subtexts. It's the whole thing. It's I've tried,
- 1:03:59I've failed, and we're here to talk about happy things. Um. I
- 1:04:01like to remind him every time he busts out the twenty two movie MCU for
- 1:04:05the fifteenth time. Nice. Another quote I liked, um Uh it's uh.
- 1:04:15It is when Ericorn is talking to Boromere as Boromere is passing, and
- 1:04:19he says, I do not know what strength is in my blood, but
- 1:04:23I swear to you I will not let the White City fall. Not nor
- 1:04:26are people fail our people, our people. I would have followed you,
- 1:04:30my brother, my captain, my king. That line. I think that's
- 1:04:35so great and it's so nice to see them like, because you know,
- 1:04:40they challenge, right, like Ericorn's existence challenges Boromir's spot in the world and
- 1:04:46all these things. Right, so it's it's tough, um, but yeah,
- 1:04:51and then I love the I think it's the Is it the last line
- 1:04:55of this movie? It's close to it. But leave all that can be
- 1:04:58spared behind. We travel light. Let's hunt some handsome orc. Yeah.
- 1:05:02That fun like it. I have more, but I'll stop. I mean,
- 1:05:12we're so great. I gotta nowhere to be man. You just go
- 1:05:15for yeah, you do you? Oh? I don't know if there's to
- 1:05:23keep it secrecy of you said that one. Oh. I actually really love
- 1:05:30this. Uh. When Bilbo says I'm old Gandolf, I know I don't
- 1:05:34look at but I'm beginning to feel it my heart. I feel thin sort
- 1:05:39of stretched like butter scraped over too much bread. I just think that's such
- 1:05:44a great especially for a hobbit of folk that just love food more than anything.
- 1:05:49Basically like food and companionship, that's their whole thing, right, And
- 1:05:54to use that metaphor for him feeling because he's lived way too long because of
- 1:06:00this ring that he has and stuff and he doesn't know that but he does
- 1:06:03kind of, I don't know. I love that. I think that's great.
- 1:06:05I thought that was a really good Uh. That description is so like
- 1:06:11you can it's a really really like visual description, like you can picture exactly
- 1:06:15what that looks and feels like. Yeah, and so like to describe something
- 1:06:18like your own life in such terms is like not a common thing, and
- 1:06:23yet that that sort of metaphor works really really well. That is a good
- 1:06:28line. That's a great one. Yeah. And then noticed that you have
- 1:06:30the Fellowship of the Ring poster literally right behind you there it is to the
- 1:06:35king. Okay, I couldn't see it because the sword is broken. Yeah.
- 1:06:40Yeah, yeah, Well it's like that avant garde kind of one.
- 1:06:43That was the first one I saw from those posters, and I was like
- 1:06:45getting that, let's look at these other ones as well. Love it so
- 1:06:49yes, Uh, I want to see mountains again, Gandalf mountains crackspap every
- 1:06:57time. Uh. And then another one. I really like. That is
- 1:07:00directly from the books. And it's so funny. I can remember thinking it
- 1:07:04was so smart when I was like a little kid reading this book. But
- 1:07:08I don't know half of you as well as I would like, and I
- 1:07:11like less than half of you, less than half of well, half as
- 1:07:13well as you deserve. That's so funny, like, and everyone's just like,
- 1:07:18wait a second? Did he just wait a second? I love that.
- 1:07:23I think it's so fun. And then just the one ring to rule
- 1:07:26them all, one ring to bind them, one ring to wait, I
- 1:07:30think I said it out of order. I'm all jacked up, guys.
- 1:07:33I had one ring, Yeah, you said it, one ring to rule
- 1:07:36them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all
- 1:07:40and in the darkness find them and needn't the darkness spite them? Yeah?
- 1:07:44I love that. I think that's cool. That's very cool, very cool.
- 1:07:47All right, Well, why don't we go to bugs boohoo moments?
- 1:07:53Strong men also cry. I failed at this, you, guys, I
- 1:08:00didn't really think about it too much, to the point where I was trying
- 1:08:03to come up with them as you were doing quotes, and so I was
- 1:08:06like, dude, just keep going. Um So I feel bad about it.
- 1:08:13Just read what I have, maybe because I feel like because I only
- 1:08:17was able to, like when I actually wrote in my notes, I only
- 1:08:21wrote three, six, eight, and I think there's probably so many more,
- 1:08:29just like the first time we see this character, and just like,
- 1:08:32I feel like it's way more than I would have. So I feel like
- 1:08:36you should give it. Oh for sure, I bet we're going double digits
- 1:08:43like minimum. Oh yeah, I mean not triple digits, but double digits
- 1:08:47for sure. Yeah, that's fair. I'll just go through them. So
- 1:08:53just go through cools. So I think I put down not eight eight,
- 1:08:56So how many more was it more? Okay, cool, let's go.
- 1:09:02Let's do it. I have twenty four I think, okay, just start.
- 1:09:08Yeah, but it's like you said, the first one is immediately when
- 1:09:13the music starts and the prologue. This is ridiculous. I'm a monster.
- 1:09:19I did have intro of Gandolf. That was one intro that I had.
- 1:09:24Yep, I have Gandolf with a heart emoticon. Yeah. Also the Shire
- 1:09:29music. I listen to this music so much that like even the cues of
- 1:09:31that get me. I just love it. Um. Let's see, I'm
- 1:09:41old Gandolf when he talks about the butter over too much bread, and really
- 1:09:45I just cried because we should always have enough butter. Um. So that
- 1:09:47was the big reason I thought up an ending for my book. And he
- 1:09:51lived happily ever after till the ending of his days. Love it and he's
- 1:09:56free for the first time in years. Love that U when he reads the
- 1:10:01whole thing, one ring to rule them all, one ring to find them,
- 1:10:03bring them all narcness and behind them. When he offers the ring to
- 1:10:10Gandolf, and Gandolf is like, you can't do that, and like he
- 1:10:14has his moment of kind of wanting to take it, and we find out
- 1:10:17that's a bad idea too. Love that. I think that's great when we
- 1:10:24meet Strider. So when Strider is in the Prancing Pony and then he saves
- 1:10:29them and there's the attack and all that definitely didn't Arwen saving him. If
- 1:10:36you want him, come and claim him so badass. Love that so much.
- 1:10:42And then she says something to him like no frodo don't go into the
- 1:10:45darkness, not now, because it's after the Wraiths go away and all that
- 1:10:50stuff, and he kind of fades and then wakes up in Rivendell. I
- 1:10:55love that so much. I think that's beautiful. He sees old man Billball.
- 1:11:03I rob the line that you said, I'd rather share one lifetime with
- 1:11:09you than face all the ages of this world alone. That one's immortal life.
- 1:11:13That's how I feel about both of you. So take that way you
- 1:11:15will. Uh. When I loved this When Legolas like stands up for Ragorn,
- 1:11:24he's like, that's no mere ranger, He's Aragorn, son of Rathorne.
- 1:11:27You owe him your allegiance. Um. And then you know, we
- 1:11:30get the habadad Legolas where he tells him to sit down. It's so nice.
- 1:11:33I love that moment. Uh, frodo. I will take the Ring
- 1:11:39to Mortor, though I do not know the way, and all that falls,
- 1:11:43so that join the fellowship, right fellowship. And it gets me when
- 1:11:49the like Sam shows up because he's eaves dropped, and then the other Hobbits
- 1:11:55show up. They're so Pethsky. I love them. They're fun um.
- 1:12:00I wish the Ring had never come to me that whole thing and that you
- 1:12:02know, decide what to do that you shall not pass, followed by the
- 1:12:09great music and that and all that stuff, and they're all very sad.
- 1:12:16I promise Scandal if I would. You can't help me, Sam, not
- 1:12:20this time. You know, that was very sad. Bomer tries to take
- 1:12:26the ring and then immediately regrets it, and Frodo fleas that got me.
- 1:12:30The rest of these are like that scene when Argorn says, I would have
- 1:12:34gone with you to the end, the very fires of Mordor Wolfe very tough,
- 1:12:41but also it wouldn't have worked if you'd had, if they'd just stuck
- 1:12:45together. So it all happens how it needs to happen. Um, when
- 1:12:49they see Sam and Frodo on the other side of the river and they you
- 1:12:54know, they'd say like, we're not going after them, basically, and
- 1:12:57then they go follow the Orcs. It's amazing. Uh. The Hobbits faces
- 1:13:01when Boromer gets shot is like such a beautiful moment and just obviously you know,
- 1:13:08Boromer dying and all that, and Mary and Pipping get taken away right
- 1:13:13like right after that, right, yeah, yeah, but their faces and
- 1:13:15then they like start fighting before they get kind of just like swept up right
- 1:13:19into it. Boromir and Ericorn doing their whole condor stuff. Uh, frodo
- 1:13:28leave Sam's follows. Frotos so happy. I made a promise, mister frodo
- 1:13:31that whole thing. Um, and then we travel light. Let's une some
- 1:13:36orc. You did not cry? Oh you did cry at that? Yeah
- 1:13:42I did, Okay, excited. That was an excited, excited cry.
- 1:13:45These are happy because yeah, yeah, so so twenty is because yeah,
- 1:13:56I think we but some of those are like the same scene. I don't
- 1:13:59know how this works. Yeah, I still think Endgame had more. Yeah,
- 1:14:03but wait till friggin I mean, just Return of the King is just
- 1:14:09going to be the whole time, Like, I don't that it's like an
- 1:14:13ending for two hours of that movie, crying the whole time. I might
- 1:14:16not guess for that one either. I'll just let you let you tell.
- 1:14:20I think you can chemically and when they stop and just elapsed time of crying
- 1:14:28for the total movie. I cried for one hundred and seventy five running minutes
- 1:14:34of this film. I have no more tears left to give a lot of
- 1:14:42crying, anybody, Why don't you hand us up? With some Triviyu strong
- 1:14:45Man also cry uh. Christopher Lee, Sir Christopher Lee saw Roman read The
- 1:14:50Lord of the Rings once a year until his death in twenty fifteen, and
- 1:14:55had done so since the year it was published. So he was a super
- 1:14:59fun And he was also the only member of the cast and crew to ever
- 1:15:03have met Tolkien. So I just thought that was really neat. And I
- 1:15:06think he was like the first person cast as well, so he was integral
- 1:15:13and even I want to say, because he was such a nerve, I
- 1:15:16should have wrote this down, but this is just something I remember from reading
- 1:15:19about it or whatever. But he was such a fan that he would go
- 1:15:24into like the makeup room and stuff and be like, oh, I think
- 1:15:28the Orcs would look like this actually, and would give him like notes and
- 1:15:30tips and things because he was just like, I know, there's I'm ready
- 1:15:33to go. You know. He also super cool. I might be misremembering
- 1:15:39this, but I seemed to remember a tidbit about because he feel like fought
- 1:15:43in a war. He was like a soldier for years, and he like
- 1:15:46gave Peter Jackson some pointers on what it sounds like when you stabbed somebody,
- 1:15:50and he was like that's not how Jesus He's like. It's more like trust
- 1:15:58me. Yeah, he's crazy. His Wikipedia is worth a read. You're
- 1:16:01totally right, Neil, it's wild bonkers. His life sound it could be
- 1:16:08its own movie, like it's absolutely crazy. Yeah, waiting for the biopic
- 1:16:13to come out. Let's see, I thought this was fun. At the
- 1:16:17end of filming, Peter Jackson gave one of the rings used in the movies
- 1:16:24to Elijah Would and one to Andy Serkis as a gift. They both thought
- 1:16:28that they had the only one, which I thought was very fun. Yeah,
- 1:16:34let's see. Oh, when Gandalf hits his head on the ceiling like
- 1:16:40the beam of the ceiling in Bilbo's Hobbit Hole, it wasn't in the script.
- 1:16:44He actually just hit his head on the beam accidentally and then acted through
- 1:16:47it. And they liked it so much that they kept it. And I
- 1:16:50thought that was amazing and really fun. Let's see, this is crazy.
- 1:16:57The cast often had to fly to remote shoe locations by helicopter, but scene
- 1:17:01being was so afraid of flying that he would only do it when he had
- 1:17:05to. So they were shooting some the scenes where they're crossing the snowy mountains.
- 1:17:13He would get up and start walking two hours before everyone every morning,
- 1:17:17so he could climb from the base of the mountain to the set near the
- 1:17:20top, and he would do it dressed as Boromere, and the crew and
- 1:17:25everybody as they were getting flown up would see him like mosying his way up
- 1:17:29there. So flying a lot. I would love to see the footage of
- 1:17:33somebody just self on recording boromer walking up a mountain by himself, totally,
- 1:17:39totally, it's lost, so fun let's see. Oh. During filming,
- 1:17:45most of the members of the Fellowship took up surfing in New Zealand during their
- 1:17:49spare time, among them Vigo Mortensen, who wiped out terribly one day and
- 1:17:55bruised the entire side of his face. The next day. Makeup artists try
- 1:18:00to mask the bruising, but they were unsuccessful, so instead they opted to
- 1:18:03film him only for one side for the whole scene. So in the minds
- 1:18:09of Maria when they find the tomb, if you watch he's only seen from
- 1:18:13one side the whole time. I think it's really funny. They're like,
- 1:18:17well, we'll just show him one of the one side of his face.
- 1:18:20Despite playing Gimli the Dwarf. John Reis Davies is six one and he's one
- 1:18:27of the tallest people in the fellowship, which I think is hilarious. It's
- 1:18:31also super worth going on like YouTube and maybe I'll find a link rop so
- 1:18:35we can throw it in the comments. But seeing how they do the forced
- 1:18:40perspective stuff is really interesting and I don't super know how to explain it other
- 1:18:45than like they would have a person here and then a person way back here
- 1:18:47and to make him look smaller and all that, and they came up with
- 1:18:50some dolly shots. Was like the very towards the very end, there's a
- 1:18:57scene of the ring in the snow and it's like a close camera shot of
- 1:19:00the ring in the snow. But the ring they used for that shot was
- 1:19:03actually like this big round or something, and so it is, Yeah,
- 1:19:05it is actually a huge ring, so they you see everybody in the distance,
- 1:19:10but they wanted the detail of the ring to show up, so they
- 1:19:12had like a giant scale model of the ring itself, so clear snow.
- 1:19:15Very interesting. Like that stuff is brilliant. How Peter Jackson shot some of
- 1:19:18those things. Yeah, it's a real tricksie of which I like a lot
- 1:19:24and made it great, you know, really fun well, and a cinematographer
- 1:19:28one an Academy Award for it, so people people like it well deserved,
- 1:19:32Yeah, for sure. When Pippin is being hit by the apples after asking
- 1:19:38about second breakfast, it's Vigo Martinson chucking the apple that has head and they
- 1:19:42had to shoot the scene sixteen times to get it just right. And Billy
- 1:19:45Boyd see he believes Mortenson enjoyed himself immensely because he was just kind of chuck
- 1:19:50APPI sado uh. That seems also hilarious because after he gets hit, he
- 1:19:56looks up in the air. It came from just a buff. I'm not
- 1:20:00you know, throwne. It's really funny. I like it. Let's see.
- 1:20:04The Elvish language lines spoken in this film are not just quotes from the
- 1:20:08book. They were derived from Tolkien's own limited dictionary of that language. Dialect
- 1:20:14coach Andrew Jack used recordings of Tolkien's reading his books to guide the actors and
- 1:20:18actresses in their pronunciations, which I think is wild. Let's just sound crazy,
- 1:20:24this guy, as he came up with languages and stuff. He's wild
- 1:20:28speaking of the languages. Vigo Mortenson is trilingual in English, Spanish and Danish
- 1:20:33and requested that the script be revised so he could speak more of his lines
- 1:20:38and Elvish, and he did a great job with them, so it makes
- 1:20:40sense. He also purchased Erwin's horse after production and gave it to live Tyler's
- 1:20:45riding double Jane Abbott, which I thought was cute. I loved that theme.
- 1:20:54They were all filmed simultaneously, all three films that we talked about,
- 1:20:58but it was two hundred and seventy four days of filming across sixteen months,
- 1:21:03which is exactly the same time frame taken for the principal photography in Apocalypse Now,
- 1:21:09which I thought was wild. So they got Apocalypse Now and they got
- 1:21:13three movies from this, so they did pretty good all things considered. They
- 1:21:17used a computer program called Massive to make the the armies of cgi orcs,
- 1:21:24elves and humans, and these digital creations could think and battle independently, identifying
- 1:21:30friend or foe, and thanks to they each each of the like assets would
- 1:21:36have individual fields of vision, and I guess that Peter Jackson and his team
- 1:21:41could click on one creature in a crowd in a crowd scene of up to
- 1:21:45twenty thousand and see through their eyes and see like what they could see,
- 1:21:50and they could assigned like unique fighting styles and stuff. So super crazy?
- 1:21:57Is that for other things? Like has that been used in like other movies
- 1:22:00or videos us? To be right? Yeah? I agree, And it's
- 1:22:06probably even more robust now right, I mean even crazier probably yeah. I
- 1:22:11don't know. It didn't say specifically, but when the dragon firework goes off
- 1:22:16at the party early with the Hobbits, the shriek erd is actually Billy Boyd
- 1:22:21screaming and because he was unaware that it was really going to explode. I
- 1:22:28think it's funny. But they were like, hey, that works, We'll
- 1:22:30keep it. Let's see. Oh. After the New Zealand premiere, uh,
- 1:22:36Peter Jackson joined the actors who played the nine members of the Fellowship by
- 1:22:41getting a commemorative tattoo of his own. Their tattoos are all the Elvish symbol
- 1:22:45for nine for the Fellowship, and he got the Elvish ten. So that
- 1:22:48was cute? Is cute? Isn't that fun? Where get him? I
- 1:22:56think just above his upper thigh, dry lower back, probably tramp Sam you
- 1:23:03know how he is? How is? Yeah? What? How? Dare
- 1:23:12you? I love it? Oh? They were over twelve and a half
- 1:23:17million plastic rings made for this film. In order to fabricate the simulated chain
- 1:23:23mail for the movie, two crew members spent the length of the shoot linking
- 1:23:28the rings by hand into suits of armor. By the end of production,
- 1:23:31they had worn the fingerprints off their thumbs and index fingers. Jeez, what
- 1:23:39an awful game, horrible movie. Maybe higher a few more people for ah.
- 1:23:45Can you imagine they must have been like, what are we doing this?
- 1:23:48Hell? I mean the credits in this were seriously almost a half hour.
- 1:23:55I couldn't believe it. I did not remember them being that. I
- 1:23:58was excited because it was done so much earlier totally, but um, I
- 1:24:02mean that many people worked on that film, and you couldn't get more of
- 1:24:05them helping with those like what do you guess? What's happening? The two
- 1:24:10folks? But just gotta run out somewhere. They can rob banks now though,
- 1:24:14because they don't have fingerprints. I thought this was fun. Gimli's line
- 1:24:20nobody tosses a Dwarf was actually filmed after the toss me line in The Two
- 1:24:27Towers. We'll hear that one next. But just just too great DLF to
- 1:24:30toss. Uh. So, I just thought that was that was silly,
- 1:24:33And I thought, uh also silly, sort of out of time. The
- 1:24:38ironic part of the Fellowship mourning the loss of Gandolf was at that point that
- 1:24:42they shot that none of the cast members had met sir Ian McKellan, let
- 1:24:46alone seeing him dressed up as Gandolf. We're really so weird. I just
- 1:24:51that's so wild to me. I love that. That is so interesting.
- 1:24:57Yeah, shot the end of the movie, for I guess, I think
- 1:25:01they just did it all out of order, you know, so there wasn't
- 1:25:04it wasn't even like, Yeah, I don't understand how you could do that.
- 1:25:10I agree. I don't get that either. It feels like it would
- 1:25:13be so hard to know, like especially if you're trying to progress a character,
- 1:25:18like how do I guess they think about it and they're better at it
- 1:25:21is the real answer? Yeah. Uh. And this is one of my
- 1:25:25favorite quotes from the book. So during Borimir's death scene, a choir can
- 1:25:29be heard on the soundtrack singing in Elvish and the translation of the lyrics is
- 1:25:33taken directly from the books. And this is the quote I do not love
- 1:25:36the sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the
- 1:25:41warrior for his glory. I only love for what they can defend. So
- 1:25:45they're talking about we love the people and the you know what they're protecting.
- 1:25:50There's a lot of random like singing and a lot of random little melodies,
- 1:25:56and it's there's one that's very funny. Eric starts singing, yeah, kind
- 1:26:01of just by himself, and like Frodo wakes up and they talk for a
- 1:26:06little bit and Eric's like, we'll go to sleep. You should go Sleep's
- 1:26:10like, well, dude, stop singing to yourself trying to sleep. Yeah.
- 1:26:15I love that story though, because that is the basically an encapsulation of
- 1:26:19the story of Rwin and Eric Orn because the lady chooses immortal life to stay
- 1:26:27with one of his ancestors. So that's fun. I love that. But
- 1:26:30yeah, there is crazy, crazy, random singing, lots of it.
- 1:26:33There's even more in the books. There's so much singing in the books.
- 1:26:38It's crazy funny. But yeah, or did you have any trivia? Yeah,
- 1:26:42a bunch of stuff here. Originally the narration at the prologue was supposed
- 1:26:45to be Elijah Wood. It was felt that the information imparted at a little
- 1:26:48bearing on the character of Frodo. So then Ian McKellen also recorded a narration,
- 1:26:54but once again it was felt that Gandolf wasn't the right character to speak
- 1:26:57it, and so they ended up settling on Kate Blanchet, which is pretty
- 1:27:02great and it emphasizes the timelessness of the Elves, which I thought was Yeah
- 1:27:09a good call. Um, Like you said, Orlando Bloom landed the role
- 1:27:13of Legolists two days before he finished drama school. Wow, Wow, which
- 1:27:17a great feeling. Yeah, I did it. You guys should really just
- 1:27:24get a job on a major film. Yeah, that was actually like pretty
- 1:27:27wild. Can you imagine like having no like pay your due time in your
- 1:27:31career, like you finished school the biggest film franchise maybe ever. Yeah,
- 1:27:38he's doing so hard. Yeah crazy, such a scary feeling, probably too
- 1:27:42at the same time, m it looks like originally cast as Ergarn was Stuart
- 1:27:48Townsend um, and it sound like he had actually he had actually shot for
- 1:27:57four days. Yeah, And they then got Vigo Mortenson and Peter Jackson thought
- 1:28:02that an older actor was needed. Uh, tough break. Stewart Towns Stewarttowns
- 1:28:09and the only thing I knew him from well, most recognizably, he played
- 1:28:14Dorrian Gray in that Horrible League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Yes, and he worked
- 1:28:19a lot though, Right, he's done. He's done a lot of things,
- 1:28:21for sure, been around, but yeah, nothing but nothing like this.
- 1:28:26Yeah. Yeah. Um it looks like Sean Connery was offered ten million
- 1:28:30for Gandolf and he turned it down, reportedly due to not understanding the story.
- 1:28:39Thank god. Wow, that seems like that'd be weird. Yeah,
- 1:28:43he's just gonna sound like Sean Connery. Yeah, but then Stewartowns and Stewart
- 1:28:47Towns and got to work with extraordinary gentleman. Oh yeah, right, so
- 1:28:53there you go. Um this, what's that? That whole line is just
- 1:28:59so funny. I'm the shrimp un told the chicret fire. We wrote you
- 1:29:03kind of passion though. Yeah, he would have done a great too.
- 1:29:15Um. It looks like Peter Jackson's first two choices for Ergorn were Daniel day
- 1:29:19Lewis and Russell Crowe. WHOA, yeah, dude, he probably would have
- 1:29:27killed it. Probably would have to, really, I don't know. Yeah,
- 1:29:31Um, it's like Crow might be too bombastic though, Like Krow would
- 1:29:35have been great too, pullip swack, he would have been great. Just
- 1:29:40picture him as a dude from Gladiator. He would have been great. Yeah,
- 1:29:44that's true, that's true. Um. Yeah. Patrick Stewart was offered
- 1:29:47the role of Gandalf as well. He turned it down. He didn't like
- 1:29:50this strapped Wow, just surprising, And yeah, I was gonna say,
- 1:29:58I think I can very easily say see those like him and Ian mccellen being
- 1:30:01best friends maybe as part of the reason, but like, I can just
- 1:30:04see them playing each other's roles all the time. So I feel like that
- 1:30:08would have been seamless if he did end up playing Gandelf instead. Sure,
- 1:30:13but he would have needed hair, so that would have been They got wigs.
- 1:30:16They got wigs. I mean Ian McKellen was for sure, well I
- 1:30:21get that, but they put fake hair on people. I've looked at some
- 1:30:28wigs from my everyday life. I explored the possibilities. That's good. Um,
- 1:30:43there's kind of some crazy stuff that was going down. So Mira Max
- 1:30:47spent fourteen million dollars to develop the project, but because of the budget,
- 1:30:53the Weinstein Brothers needed Disney's approval to go ahead. Weinstein made the pitch for
- 1:30:58two movies, so now not three movies, with a projected budget of no
- 1:31:02more than one hundred and eighty million dollars. Disney's head Michael Eisner rejected his
- 1:31:09proposal, thinking that The Lord of the Rings would not translate well to film
- 1:31:14and there was a limited audience for the fantasy genre. I know this whole
- 1:31:20paragraph is insane. After Eisner's rejection, the wine Stein's reluctantly let Sir Peter
- 1:31:26Jackson shop the project to other studios. Jackson later said that he was happy
- 1:31:30that the deal with Harvey Weinstein fell through, called him, calling him a
- 1:31:33real bully who ruled through mafia thuggery. Weinstein reportedly wanted to take the project
- 1:31:41from Jackson and give it to Quentin Tarantino, and he forbade him to cast
- 1:31:46Mira Sorvino and Ashley Judd. I had actually heard that Ashley Judd was supposed
- 1:31:53to have that Arwin role. Oh sure, Jackson Vowden never to work with
- 1:31:59Winestein again and took the project a new line. Cinema's chief executive Robert say
- 1:32:02Instead, who finally approved the project for three movies with a combined budget of
- 1:32:08three hundred million dollars, and apparently they had brought it to Robert Shay thinking
- 1:32:12it was just going to be two movies, and he was like, well
- 1:32:14you should really just make it three movies, and Peter Jackson was like,
- 1:32:16we know so old. So I agree. Yeah, So I thought all
- 1:32:23that was pretty insane. It's amazing any movie ever gets made. Agree,
- 1:32:29there's so much crap that has to go into and just can't even imagine.
- 1:32:34Yeah, I'm really surprised that Weinstein wasn't easy to work with. I've only
- 1:32:38ever heard some good things. Stirling Silver reputation. Yeah, really great.
- 1:32:45Yeah, that guy sucks, by the way, if so much, so
- 1:32:47much, so much. He's a bad man. That was all I had
- 1:32:50though. That's super cool. Yeah, but I like that story. That's
- 1:32:54neat Neil. Did you have any trivia that we missed that you happen to
- 1:32:57see? You're not someone for two Towers but you already know it? Tell
- 1:33:01me everything? Or did I already say it? No? No, no,
- 1:33:04it's oh yes, got it? Got it? Sorry? Yes,
- 1:33:09the meme? Yes, of course, of course, of course we'll talk
- 1:33:13about it. Um, I'll get it. Judgment day. We know there's
- 1:33:16more coming. So okay, oh yeah yeah, but do you guys want
- 1:33:20to play a game? Yeah? Absolutely. I did a plot tub time
- 1:33:26machine. So I am going to give you the plot synopsis to a movie.
- 1:33:31And when you know what the title is, ringing with your name.
- 1:33:35Um, all of these ten films have something in common. And if you
- 1:33:42know what that is, just ringing at any time with your name, so
- 1:33:45I know who's ringing in. You can do that anytime for a point.
- 1:33:47Um, pretty easy. Any questions. Cool, Let's do it number like
- 1:33:55four apples or something to make sure it's I feel like Neil's on like a
- 1:33:59little old delay. Oh yeah, that's right, that's all right. We
- 1:34:01know I'm not gonna win this thing anyways. It's all right. No,
- 1:34:04No, we're doing plots up. I didn't go for like a starting five.
- 1:34:09We're gonna I feel good about this. You're you're gonna do great.
- 1:34:13Um, we'll see how we do with number one. Here, here we
- 1:34:16go, a film about what could happen if the wrong person pushed the wrong
- 1:34:21button and it played the situation for laughs. US Air Force General Jack Ripper
- 1:34:28goes completely insane and sends his bomber wing to destroy the USSR. He thinks
- 1:34:32that the Communists are conspiring to pollute the precious bodily fluids of the American people.
- 1:34:42Any guesses, Yes, No, it's Oh, it's the one I'm
- 1:34:49gonna say to Russia with love. But it's the other one, isn't that?
- 1:34:53It's not that one? No, any guess? Is Neil five four
- 1:34:59three? Is it the one we did with your dad? No? No,
- 1:35:01I've never seen this. I've never seen this movie. This is called
- 1:35:04Doctor Strange Love or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb.
- 1:35:11Damn it, I've seen that. It's great. Yeah, I mean it's
- 1:35:14a class I have not seen it. I should have got that. But
- 1:35:18let's go to number yeah. Yeah, sorry, let's see I go to
- 1:35:21number two. Infamous and unpredictable, the fastest gun in the West plans his
- 1:35:28next big heist. While he launches preemptive strikes against those looking to collect the
- 1:35:33reward the law has placed on his head. His newest recruits grow increasingly jealous
- 1:35:40of the outlaw. When they sense an opportunity to kill him, they gun
- 1:35:44him down, but their actions backfire. When his fame is elevated to near
- 1:35:49mythical status, us Yukes, Jesse James, the coward who killed I'm gonna
- 1:36:05give it to you Robert for yes, Yes, it's the assassination of Jesse
- 1:36:11James by the coward Robert Ford. Oh, okay, by the coward Robert
- 1:36:16Yeah. Long, Yes, I haven't either. I just know that title
- 1:36:23because it's a long Is that the thing? Long titles? It's very long
- 1:36:27titles. Yes, that is the thing. You have two points, so
- 1:36:31now that might help a little bit. I'm not gonna be like sticklers on
- 1:36:38every words act wordage. However, for this next one, you gotta get
- 1:36:43it right. You gotta get the title right. Okay, okay, and
- 1:36:46you'll know why here. Sure you can't guess after Okay, I'll guess now,
- 1:36:53Anchorman the legend of run Burn. Oh that is good, but no,
- 1:36:57so Neil. Here you go, buddy, to the way that Captain
- 1:37:02Jack Sparrow arrives at Port Royal and the Caribbean without a ship or crew.
- 1:37:06His timing is in opportune, however, because later that evening, the town
- 1:37:10is besieged by a pirate ship. The pirates kidnapped the governor's daughter, Elizabeth,
- 1:37:14who's in possession of a valuable coin that is linked to a curse that
- 1:37:17has transformed the pirates into the undead. A gallant blacksmith in love with Elizabeth
- 1:37:23allies with Sparrow in Pursuit of the Pirates. Do you know, Neil,
- 1:37:28what that song is? Yes, Pirates of the Caribbean. Is there a
- 1:37:31subheading of that movie. Yeah, there's a lot of them. So yeah,
- 1:37:35that's why I was like, you gotta get this one right. Okay,
- 1:37:39I know this one too. Oh gosh, this is the first one,
- 1:37:44right, yeah, Curse of the Black Pearl. Boom, got it
- 1:37:53is on the board. All right, here comes another one. Here we
- 1:37:59go. Number four. Outrageous situations occur when a popular reporter from Kazakhstan comes
- 1:38:04to the Yes, bugs, Oh damn it. What's the longer thing?
- 1:38:12Borat film to make glorious Kazakhstan? Yeah, some of it something like that.
- 1:38:18So this is so long bor at cultural learnings of America for make benefit
- 1:38:24glorious Nation of Kazakhstan. Benefit glorious Nation of Kazakstan. I knew it was,
- 1:38:30you get yeah, you got it? All right? These are five.
- 1:38:35They're fun, all right. Number five an evil judge lust for the
- 1:38:41beautiful wife of a London barber and transports him to Australia for a crime he
- 1:38:45did not commit. Yes, bugs, Sweeney Todd, the demon barber of
- 1:38:51Fleet Street. That is absolutely correct. You got all of that right,
- 1:38:56Yeah, all right, bugs, you're doing well. Let's go to number
- 1:39:00six. I feel good about this one for for you tube bugs. So
- 1:39:04if you think you got it, Neil, really just get in there.
- 1:39:09Number six, a former cinema superhero is mounting an ambitious Broadway production that eat
- 1:39:15Yes, Bugs, dugs so Birdman the unexpected virtue of ignorance. Yes,
- 1:39:20that is correct. I didn't even know. And oh really yeah, yeah,
- 1:39:28it's a it's a long one. Um, so what do we got?
- 1:39:31That was after six? I know Neil's got the one, but did
- 1:39:34you not one? Okay, because you got the theme? Cool? You
- 1:39:39got all right? Yep together, all right, cool? This one might
- 1:39:45be tougher. Number seven Elite Manhattan drag queens Vita and Noxiema impress regional judges
- 1:39:51in competition, securing berths in the nationals in Los Angeles. When the two
- 1:39:57meat Pathetic Drag Novice Cheeche Rodriguez one of the losers that evening, the charmed
- 1:40:02Vita Nuxima agree to take the hopeless youngster under their joined wing. Soon,
- 1:40:08the three set off on a mad cap road trip across America and struggle to
- 1:40:13make it to Los Angeles and time. I just need the first part and
- 1:40:16then don't get me. I know this too, the dude from Roadhouse and
- 1:40:24from h Dirty Dancing, but I can't think of his name right now.
- 1:40:29It's Patrick Swayzy and like Wasamo I think, yep, he's chee che Rodriguez.
- 1:40:36That's what I'm asking you, guys. Can you give me the first
- 1:40:39word. I don't need a point, but just two? Oh too,
- 1:40:43Wong food. Thanks for everything, Julie Knuma, that is really all you
- 1:40:45needed. I was like, I'm so close. You got it close.
- 1:40:51That's another point. Oh really, I don't know. Yeah, all you
- 1:40:56needed was two. All right? I want to see that. Have you
- 1:41:00ever seen that? I saw it as a kid a few times and thought
- 1:41:02it was hilarious. Yeah, it's fun. It was fun. I've never
- 1:41:05seen it. I've always thought I would like it. Yeah. I wonder
- 1:41:10about the right word. Maybe. I mean it was fun at the time.
- 1:41:13I don't know if it holds up in today's um. Yeah, yeah,
- 1:41:19I thought it was fun at the time. Cool. It's probably problematic
- 1:41:24and I'm going to get canceled for saying that, but I don't know for
- 1:41:27sure. It's been a very long time. Um, let's go to number
- 1:41:31eight. An advice columnists tries pushing the boundaries of what she can write about
- 1:41:38in her new piece about how to get a man to leave you. Her
- 1:41:40editor loves it, how to lose a guy in ten days? That is
- 1:41:45correct. I was like, is there like a subcolonto this move? Now?
- 1:41:49That's just a long seven yeah. Um, in ten words that'd be
- 1:41:57about something. Yeah, number nine. Sorry. In eighteen o five,
- 1:42:01aboard the HMS Surprise, the brash captain Jack Aubrey and his trusted friend,
- 1:42:06the ship scholarly surgeon Stephen Maturin, are ordered to hunt down and capture a
- 1:42:13powerful French vessel off the South American coast. The Napoleon is winning the war,
- 1:42:16and the men and their crew faced an onslaught of obstacles, including their
- 1:42:20own internal battles. Lucky Jack is determined that nothing will stop the Surprise from
- 1:42:26completing its mission. Bugs bukes, Master and Commander God, I don't know,
- 1:42:34I don't know. The last part though. The last part is Sail
- 1:42:39the Seventh Sees or something that Neil, do you know what it is?
- 1:42:43That is called Master and Commander The Far Side of the World, Far Side
- 1:42:47of the World. Boy, was that a sequel Commander movie? It's just
- 1:42:55one. It's just one, Okay. I didn't even Yeah, I didn't
- 1:42:57even know that had a second part of the title. Yeah, yeah,
- 1:43:00that's the aforementioned Russell Crowe right, yes, and Paul be Yep. Not
- 1:43:10a great movie. I didn't even actually ever see it. I just saw
- 1:43:14this last year, I think, and it was it's okay, yeah,
- 1:43:17all right, Well here's the last one. Bugs, you definitely won.
- 1:43:20But let's do number ten just for fun. After the three young Bottelaire symbolings
- 1:43:27are left orphaned by a fire in their mansion, they are carted off to
- 1:43:30live with their distant relative, Count Olaf. Unfortunately, Olaf is a cruel
- 1:43:35scheming man. Only after the inheritance that the eldest Baudelaire, Violet, is
- 1:43:42set to receive, the children escape and find shelter with their quirky uncle Moni
- 1:43:46and subsequently their phobic aunt Josephine. But Olaf is never far behind. Is
- 1:43:55that the the the kids movie, the Pet, the Pet peta something peddic
- 1:44:04that sounds like I'm trying to not what I'm trying to say. What is
- 1:44:12it the serious thing of the really bad day or whatever? That one?
- 1:44:16No, this was well maybe this is what you're thinking. Oh no,
- 1:44:20are you thinking that? Miss Peregrine is what you're thinking. But that's not
- 1:44:26it. It's not different that it's a different one. Lemony snickets a series
- 1:44:30of unfortunate event fortunate got it? Sorry? Yeah, I actually never be
- 1:44:35sorry. I did see school first. I never saw either. I don't
- 1:44:40think children which one had because wasn't one of them Jim Jim Carrey was the
- 1:44:46movie version, right, there was a show version as well, though,
- 1:44:49yeah, oh really yeah, which I never say either either of them.
- 1:44:55But that's cool. Nice, But yeah, because you're gonna tell us how
- 1:44:59we do our top five movie jewelry draft. Whoa, it's gonna be fun.
- 1:45:03It's gonna be good if you want to. If you want to check
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- 1:45:09Please do that. It would be great and you can hear that while you're
- 1:45:13on the interwebs. Find at the wise gosh, do it and support him
- 1:45:17um and also go to home Free Music dot Com slash Tour and I honestly,
- 1:45:21I don't even care if you buy a ticket. Just go to the
- 1:45:23show and buy a lot of merchandise from Neil's. Yeah, you should definitely
- 1:45:27do that. I'm good coming to a show in the next couple of weeks.
- 1:45:31We've got a lot of fun stuff, so yeah, see me,
- 1:45:33come say what's up. It'll be super fun. Neil, thanks for coming
- 1:45:36on, dude, this was a treat. You're always a course of course.
- 1:45:40Thanks for having me anytime, and thank you all. Stay tuned.
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