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Ep 229 - What Should The Saints Do In Free Agency? · Saints Block Party Podcast

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[SPEAKER_01]: Buddy, and we get answers now, but yes, answers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we wanted to, one, we haven't done a live stream in a while, uh, been about things like two weeks because previously last week, uh, I was in any naplists, I was in trying to, we weren't going to try to do a live stream with hotel Wi-Fi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and so I was at, I was in Indy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got there last Monday, last Monday night at 1130 and then the first batch of pressure started on Tuesday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was in Indy from Monday night and I left Friday afternoon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well said, Jake in the chat said I had live exclusive discord commentary from any of this past weekend sure did like the the audio messages at Jake was sitting in the didn't they not going to find her here anywhere else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, and then Jake said, I'll try and quote, I'll try and the quotes get the quotes into an article this weekend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Divis, did you talk to Jacobi Lane?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He sounds like Steve Erkel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did not talk to Jacobi Lane because my guy and lemon and Jacobi Lane were talking at the same time, podiums literally like right next to each other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Jake did get some questions in for Jacobi Lane again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, the coverage was there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's talk about the combine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about the combine as a whole.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was an interest, like, so this is, in case you don't know, this is my second year going to the combine last year with my first did not get to foriles the Indianapolis downtown nightlife meeting, like going to all the spots that the executives and the head coaches and GMs, like I did last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what it was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it was like the three hour time difference, like effective bro, like I was passing out around like nine, nine, 30, 10 bro, I was just, oh, done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because again, all those pressures start just to give you like, you know, behind like look on the glass, those pressures start at like 8 a.m. 90 a.m. in the morning, which for me, that's like five like five a.m. California time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So my body was just not cooperating, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was still a very, I guess you could say, insightful, a combine experience.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And what we could talk about like the workouts, what have you, but what's your, I guess, biggest takeaway?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll start with the workouts, but like your biggest takeaway after all the workouts and everything that's been done, and everything's kind of done, and we're just waiting for the draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now it's just, now it's just pro days and what have you going for it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it was fascinating to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just so many of the quote-unquote top people actually got on the field.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Got on the field.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They worked out a lot of the brand.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They did it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love seeing the bro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just love seeing it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know from a monetary standpoint, it might not make sense and all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I just love to see guys that go out there and compete bro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jeremiah love that me hyper like just the fact that he went out there's number number one running back in the class, everything did everything animal, we want you to try some white receiver rugs on that out there just put it all on the line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just love that bro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's that to me, like that just gets you extra points, but I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, it just does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you don't think that doesn't give you extra points in front office execs and hey, coaches is exact, I don't know what to tell you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you haven't been watching football long enough, especially in coaches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, it was, so the germ I love, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: completely killed his workout, sunny styles, killed his work, like that's the whole Josh North of like you don't count it twice, but like I'm sorry, but like that shit is impressive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care how great, like how much of an athlete you look on on film, that's a, that's a Josh North for you don't know what I'm talking about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, way back when he made this statement of that as an athlete.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if someone who you know is a freak athlete and back then it was Anthony Barrett, who's an example, Adressor from UCLA.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If that edge rusher then goes to the combine and like has an exceptional workout like you're not supposed to count it again because that's how they're
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's dumb, like it's just like I hate the the whole logic behind it because I'm sorry when it comes like these teams like those those numbers matter like Rubin like I don't know if it's going to affect him draft wise but like Rubin being having like the short like historically like the shortest arms that has not been drafted I think in like the first one else is like 1999 like that shit matters like it does like like that stuff matters it was
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[SPEAKER_01]: great to the pressers are very interesting because and maybe because partly I'm a social worker and I do like a lot of observation and what have you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But last year, I came away very like not one touch of player like my green like I hate I couldn't stand the way he like carried himself it was I just didn't like anything about his press conference and even the questions he was getting about the sexual I think it was like sexual abuse or you know sexual assault allegations what have you like it just didn't like his his vibe so like that's the that's the important thing for pressures I feel like it's so crucial and player wise I felt like
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[SPEAKER_01]: even though like I wouldn't want the same to touch him if I like Peter Woods.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I could see why I can see why I team would rap Peter Woods.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's just like this, this, this, this nice guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just saying the right things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And what have, and that's just who he is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm not taking, I'm not taking anything away from him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's who he is a person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, lugly hunter, that's not me having any Texas tech bias at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He just just like a country, country, South boy who just love, love football and just want to go out there and ball, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was just, I just loved everything about Lee Hunter and his vibe, I love the vibe with Jeremiah, Jeremiah love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to have an ask him a question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, TJ, uh, state of the Saints.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that name is there in the podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, got to ask him a question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: First, that was things related and couple questions later.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to ask him one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He, during my love, it's someone who.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is humbly confident.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how to describe it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're like, he knows he's the shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like, there's a humbleness to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like, and I'm not going to get too deep into it because we're going to talk about my kind of limit this weekend for the Prosperka the week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hate, I hate the narrative that came out of the combine after his presser.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For me, who was there, right in front of him, I saw a player for him that football has been like his way to provide for his family.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's everything, man, like, that's just who he is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the game of football, he's a dog, and that's just his demeanor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And just all of this like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: negative connotation that's come out after it because why because that's what it was like he didn't cope like and if you're a black personal listen to this podcast right now you know exactly what I'm talking about my client limit doesn't post which in that is fine that's completely fine but just this or get into it this weekend for the episode but that is something that
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just being there, like I was there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And what I, I'm not tweeted, I said, but Kyle Limit is a light skin that has a mic Thomas personality.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you know what I mean by that, like it is very obvious what I mean by that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's a fucking dog.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a competitor, he wants to win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And just like the, I hate it everything about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now you're hearing like, you know, he bombed in these interviews and you know, he might slide in the draft, we'll get into that this weekend more in depth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hate everything about it and just how we go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like the negative natty shit about the comedy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And about sports in general.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, especially in the day where I was social media because, you know, just a clip will come out and somebody just looking a certain way or just and then it just takes on the whole life of its home.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I just was just struck by, let's just the whole just everything about it,
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[SPEAKER_02]: even with the short arms thing like even though it's important like with banging and all that stuff but it just was wild to me is like man it's dude like been dominant for years just yes flat yeah that's all just just like you know just played a couple of weeks ago in the in the you know the championship as it's like put great film out and you know and now you like you can answer questions like so what are your thoughts on your short arms
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, what, he got in football all my life, really, what do you want to think?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He got like three questions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll give credit, like some of the people, I was not going to ask him a short, it's just not my thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I would say the way that those questions were worded were worded very,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's like it was very creative how they were and it wasn't like well, so you have short arms, so like it was very much like
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[SPEAKER_01]: like those questions were thought about, but yet still addressing the topic which I think is good reporting journalism, media, whatever you want to have it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was interesting for it, and I don't like, take them out as word.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he was being honest when he said this or maybe he wasn't, but he said that teams when he talking to teams like it hasn't been an issue to teams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, because they don't, they don't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's measurements and all that stuff already.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that stuff has been out there forever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't, they don't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, they don't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They either, like, you know, you don't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you either,
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[SPEAKER_02]: either you're going to be cool with it or you're not and it's like it's just right of those things and the tape is tape.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it just was just faster to be like how people you know just some players have these you know big successful careers in college and then just like that once it like flips to like draft coverage they just get cooked online they get cooked off Twitter you got memes coming out it's like
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's just loud to me like a major being one of those players and you know these players are young so they're on social media They see all yeah, not like they just turn it off and don't they see all of that stuff, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just makes me think about that like the mental health aspect of it, you know, we just had a talk about how to get dark But we just had you know another player commit, you know take yourself out a couple of weeks ago It's just crazy, you know, but and look I'm not that
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[SPEAKER_02]: I had to partake in the jokes and the cooking of players all the time, like, you know, this is the same black part of the podcast you already don't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, but it just, it's one of the things I just think about, especially with these young guys, all of the young guys that's trying to get to try to get to the league and live out their dreams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I even just such an unlimited real quick, you know, it's become like our second watch, our second watch clip on TikTok.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it has like 21 K views.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then even in terms of like YouTube short, it has like four K views.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've had to go in and like literally remove comments because there are a lot of comments that like, came out and just basically saying like, oh, he's on drugs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like like, oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_01]: talking about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What are you talking about?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like that's the juxtaposition with the combine slash like that world is just like I just it's a it's a it's a it's a dirty world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um trying to think and anything going back to the whole workout thing you
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[SPEAKER_01]: We talk about all the prospects all like the top tier prospects that went out and worked out it just it looks a little it looks different when you have like David Bailey going out there All right, he just out Out there and everything every day in the room back like in Roop and Bay wins us pro day like A race out there doing everything
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, Cardinal Tate, he ran, he ran the 40, but he didn't do the drills, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Cardinal Tate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, he ran the 40, so I guess we should have a small aside for Cardinal Tate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Does the four or five or whatever, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Does that matter?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, like, honestly, that was about where I expected him to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I did think he would crack four four.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I did think he'd like four, I don't know, four, four, six, or four, four, seven, or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't, from like a, like a, if we just standpoint, it doesn't matter me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I still take him at eight, I love the draft committee.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it does raise the question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't see many,
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[SPEAKER_02]: four or five Robocie was go top 10 period like it's just you could just go down to history it just does not happen a lot I don't remember the last time it happened but it doesn't happen we really know what tech ran last year though like we don't we don't know and it wouldn't surprise me feel something similar you know I'm saying not at all it wouldn't surprise me but it was interesting because again you watch how
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, just people, okay, love with a player for weeks, months, bruh, and then they see that they're like, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll give you a perfect example of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it happened last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: with Gunnar Helm with our boy, those horns cell phone on Twitter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I think it might have been him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like after Gunnar Helm, like I think he ran like a bad 40 or whatever, he was like, nope, don't wanna drive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like, the 40 just like just erases like the good and the good thing that Gunnar Helm but I'll see something like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He said everything like, come on man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It does not mean life is like taking a shot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, or anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's just like, it is crazy how that is so weighted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and maybe that's kind of what Josh Norris to a degree was talking about is that you don't count it twice when it's good Like you don't count it twice when it's really good, but then What they're saying like if it doesn't is there's not up what your expectation is do you ding a player because of that that it just gets into the minutia of the draft After Jamal of Rand ran as that as it worked out
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you're hearing, you know, things come out that, you know, Matthew Barry, you know, said that the titans, potentially what, you know, very interested in during my love literally that same day or the next day, my friend told me the same thing for a banam.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess what I'm asking is that do you think, and we're about a little month and a half away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think he gets to eight?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, B zone, he went eight, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: B zone a revolution.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He went eight over all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He did, and I, and I post a different class.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, post that draft class in our discord.
23:18
[SPEAKER_01]: You had what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to say two quarterbacks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe three quarterbacks going that draft.
23:22
[SPEAKER_01]: You had offensive linemen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And in this class, like, only Fernando Mendoza is going in the top 10.
23:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I would love a title, like a team just,
23:31
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, just fall in love with Tyson's and then, you know, how about a Blake?
23:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, could you imagine if we got the proud party brought and there's like that Blake Burrell's moment like when the jacks and blisters out of nowhere, but there's Tyson's and then the top five.
23:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Leave it.
23:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I passed out.
23:44
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll need it.
23:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I need some hats.
23:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what we need.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like we need for, for Jordan love to be there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You need at least two offensive linemen to go in the top seven.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At least two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: one of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's possible.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's possible that two offensive blindmen can go up because the needs of them, those teams up there need offensive linemen and there's not many out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I just don't know, bro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I guess as a Saints fan, I think and I've seen this across just the Saints fan of in general and everybody just kind of preparing themselves that E. D. Now, I'm going to be there like just just protect your emotions right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He won't be there, bro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's getting snatched up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: you by Washington or by the Titans or by Giants.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Giants, one of them, bro.
24:34
[SPEAKER_02]: But like I said, that's why I'm looking forward to next week with free agency kicks off, because you're going to get a lot of answers.
24:40
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to see what teams spend big money on.
24:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody pays big money for Kenneth Walker.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not going, you know, draft, join Jeremiah Love, you know what I'm saying?
24:51
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's going to be interesting just to see
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[SPEAKER_02]: how all these little puzzle pieces come together over the next couple of weeks.
24:59
[SPEAKER_01]: It is, this is getting inside the free agency realm, but Matthew Barry also said that potentially linking the things to Travis ETN.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you go back to the episode we did last week, I came out on that episode and said, you know, what I've heard, the free agency plan, excuse me, for the saints will be
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[SPEAKER_01]: very offensive heavy, guards, running backs, tight ends,
25:27
[SPEAKER_01]: rot receivers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not saying that they're going to be able to get all those positions, but that's where the focus is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so like it doesn't shock me to hear maybe they are interested in Travis CTN.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can kind of, you know, we said this on a prospect of the weekend, but so, but there was, there was, things like there was some, at some point, some mutual interest brewing, brewing between the Saints and Breetall, the, the Jetson tag team, he ain't leaving
25:57
[SPEAKER_01]: When we do the prospect of the week up and so with talking about my kind of limb in this weekend, I'm going to give the like the current cloud in terms of the players at the same certain most interested in, because that's going to be Patreon only even when we release it to the general public.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to read anything that out that is strictly going to be a Patreon only or YouTube only, like hearing, listening, watching experience.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is just going to be fascinating to see what this team does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you told me, this is gaining a more infreagency, if the Saints come away with the running back and a tight-end infreagency and maybe like a guard, I would say that's a well done free agent hall.
26:44
[SPEAKER_01]: You're paying on who the hell you are?
26:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely, man.
26:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's compare this to Brad,
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and the thing about the company is a lot of those conversations happen with teams.
26:55
[SPEAKER_02]: We started to see like a lot of moves happening in the last couple of days just.
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[SPEAKER_02]: moves happening off the combine trades going down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Texas Texans trading for my gummery and they trading off of the blind man in Kyla Murray's about to get released in a couple of days as some boys, but we had on these trees boy, I just want, I just want chaos, me, but I just want some crazy stuff and
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[SPEAKER_01]: The last time I asked for chaos in three agencies, they traded it's Jimmy Graham and Kenny Stills.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now I'm so emotionally detached, bro.
27:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't even care, bro.
27:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, like, I do want to go on out of a Camaro, bro.
27:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I wonder, do I look at the old Camaro, and they're like, okay, it's been an half million.
27:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When the highest pay rent of banks in the league, I just wonder how they look at him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, how they look, do they look at him?
27:58
[SPEAKER_02]: games, the game, we extended them, and we extended them, you know, he's more of acid to us right now than not, so just roll them with it, or do they, do they, I want to, if they secretly want to move on from album to mirror, I just want to
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I'm very confident that Alec Pierce will be standing in any opposite.
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30:45
[SPEAKER_01]: The AK thing is interesting because I was thinking about this earlier in terms of the
30:54
[SPEAKER_01]: is that if the Saints signed Travis ETN and free agency, I'm not even sure if Jeremiah Loeb was there at eight that that would stop them from taking Jeremiah Loeb.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I wouldn't, I was like, yeah, what would you think?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then like you know, then you have three running backs and then like I don't know game that depth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At that point, I think AK would be the odd man out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but it's very fascinating thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You would be paying the 18, you know, what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: 19 million a year, something like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Cameroon living in the half of you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you draft for running back at the first round?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, what is happening, you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we know how that plays out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it will be,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're getting more into our free agency.
31:48
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll I'll put the graphic up because we did a thought exercise experiment in terms of each one of us addressing free agency.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I will say one player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just want them to stay away from in free agency at the running back position.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's Ken Walker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: but he is such a high variance player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's a reason why
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[SPEAKER_01]: until Zack Sharminay got hurt.
32:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, Zack Sharminay was used a lot of the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like coaches just didn't trust him to walk her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His past protection and past blocking isn't that great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not a great, like receiving back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I don't, it's nothing gets him out of player, but like for the price point that he's gonna cost.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that, um,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm I'm going to kind of and as by you said that like he he does get nicked up a lot he does have a you know injury history.
32:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Great for sale.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Great for sale put a good he said he's more
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he's more jazz musician than classical pianists, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it's not everything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you can design everything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You could block it up perfectly, but he's not going to run.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not going to run it as designed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not every time at least.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes he will sometimes one, but he's gonna dance around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's gonna do all types of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it looks, it just looks more artistic when he's doing it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just very, it's very high variance, like you said.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he's explosive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's explosive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's just super explosive.
33:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, but yeah, he, you know, I think he's gonna do well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's gonna get somebody afraid to see.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not somebody out with, you know, that's from the Saints, but I just, he's never with somebody else kind of high on my list.
33:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh no, I just feel like, I don't know man, I just feel like you could you could find players that would give you As good a production.
33:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I did a lot of wearing a base.
33:54
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of decent wearing a base and it's great to see his brother
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[SPEAKER_01]: There is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's share.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's start talking about the free agent started things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure I should share this right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we did a thought exercise experiment with free agency.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Essentially starting on Monday, even though that's the opening of the tampering period, a lot of deals will always be done by Monday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We each had a strategy in terms of free agency.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I went a little buck while, like in hindsight, looking at it, but then everything will care.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So on the left, and if you're listening to this audio version of this, we apologize, but we're right now, we're sharing the graphic of our free agency strategy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: for for the office and not just for next week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So on the left, you have my aggressive rebuilt strategy on the right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's Ryan's wolf's roster refined strategy.
34:46
[SPEAKER_01]: So just like highlight what I had said, basically, I would resound Kim Jordan.
34:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I would trade for the defense of tackle from the commanders around pain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would trade McCoy to either to the
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[SPEAKER_01]: or the bears because they just had their daughter's ramen, retire, extend, foltener, assuming that the colds brain bag Daniel Jones and Alec Pierce, seeing if I could get Michael, Michael Pimm and Junior and a trade for them, and then
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[SPEAKER_01]: I left this part out, but I would also extend Chris Olave.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We both said we were, we were resigned, Estime, resigned, resigned, Fultner, and then you said in terms of trade, you're trading Warner, B.C.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and Ruisse, you're cutting, we're both cutting, Kairdream Miller, and Gotcha, and then, and, you know, I need, I need those cuts, like those announcements to hit, soon, soon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But for the draft target at eight, they're all the five players of the same for us.
35:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I know I had only said Dremine and Caleb, but you could go in, Jordan Tyson and McCuylman and Carnell Tate in there for me as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's very, yeah, you also said you was going to sign up in Ingram.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not on the graphic, but I did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I did, yeah, Garney in Ingram.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the reason I went with At Ingram,
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[SPEAKER_01]: In terms of like the three quote unquote bitguards, you have David Edwards, bills, guard, you have Zion Johnson, Targers, guard, and you have Eddie Grimm, Texan's guard who went to LSU.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Ed Grimm, one is going to cost less than both of those, both Edwards and Zion Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he's still young.
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[SPEAKER_01]: which is a plus for him over David Edwards.
36:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And then man, when I read Desy and Johnson, Scott on a report, bro.
36:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you can all be Tom's like in this offseason, I've read that this man as a player, like he's going to get paid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not that he struggles with stunts and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, we've had it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what the fuck that looks like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I do not want to offer the lime and I'm not paying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not my money, but like I don't want my team to pay $17 million for a guard that
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[SPEAKER_01]: one of his, his career in LA has been up and down, like last year, last year was the best season, but everyone's still saying, like, he's still stunts with, like, we, we, we, we, with stunts and all, no, ain't no way, bro, ain't no way, don't want it, you not want it, no, no, no, and I was pretty much on the same line, I'd go David Edwards, like my first half would be David Edwards.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, then I go for eight in-groom.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Also through a laser pair of tuck in there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's a good one.
37:54
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a good one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Inter player, you know, buddy, you know, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you like kind of attack it kind of like you did with the uh, with the young, right, chase young, just kind of like, okay, let's just see, let's see it's a little gamble now, but let's throw a little money, get them in one year and see where it goes, you know, I'm saying that that's just one I would probably like, if I wanted to throw a gamble out there and free, just see that's one out of my tip because it could pay off, it could pay off and you, come away with having a good guard, you know, at least for a year, you know, I'm saying if it, if it works out, then you could
38:29
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, circle back and just like a deal with Chase Young, maybe extend them over whatever or you know, you just let them go But you know, it's just one of those like bi-lo Maybe works out type of things also we trying to get one of those kind of a high price tier one free agencies at guard regardless They got a tech guard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They got to attack that position.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Got to Got I'm not sitting here.
38:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sitting here grinding no guard tape No, so I'm just gonna trust killing and
39:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Off it's blind coach all of them like y'all figured it shit out.
39:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it is shit out fix it fix That's why I said before they signed based on Ed and England they signed they hours you're not you're not watching the all 22 to get the David patreon only patreon dot com slash the same's black party Get the picture on the damn god Okay, the game the game brother So in terms of
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[SPEAKER_01]: doing this regarding the legends, just feels like the saints are only going to be able to keep one of the Mario Davis in Cam Jordan.
39:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I, in my, in my side of free agency said that I would bring back Cam Jordan and I let the Mario Davis walk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Partly a reason because of that is one I feel like
39:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Demario, like, just in terms of what he's going to want price, you know, salary wise, think he's going to be on the same range.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's earned that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's taken some team family deals in the past.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is basically his last big contract he's going to get from the end of his career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he should be able to dictate whatever you want to get paid.
40:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Secondly, it just feels like I'm ready to see
40:19
[SPEAKER_01]: what stuntsman has at no linebacker.
40:21
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not a knock at tomorrow, you know, or anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you drafted this young, you know, linebacker last year, who's flashed a whole bunch, last season in very, very limited snaps, who's a natural, mic-linebacker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm going to fill in flourish, man, because the last thing you'd want is to have like another exact bond situation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly, exactly, and that's the thing with Demario and it's not a knock against him, but it's like it's either all or nothing with him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like he's Yes, he's too much of a top dog to kind of have him in the building.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
40:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Because You know, you know from a mental standpoint Stutspers not going to outseat no damn Demario.
41:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's just not going to happen.
41:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Demario like knows more about football and damn to anybody on a team so it's like
41:08
[SPEAKER_02]: This is one of those things where I just like, you know, let's move on and let's see what we got.
41:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get younger at the position and let's try to grow that position because that's the future.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Mario Davis is not going to be a part of the future, like it's not his, he's not, it's over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Even though he's still a good player.
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[SPEAKER_02]: that bad result.
41:29
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got to be 38 years old, but like, what are we doing here?
41:33
[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy, bro.
41:34
[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy.
41:35
[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's still playing like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Said, if for him, it's like, man, you could tell he said that point was like, man, look, I don't know how much longer I got in love.
41:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I got to go.
41:44
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just like some team friendly deals for you, for the same spell.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And stuck around, we didn't really didn't have to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So,
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[SPEAKER_02]: for him is like, man, go and get it, bro.
41:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you can go get like a nice little 10, 11 million dollar contracts from work.
41:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Go get that shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tony and Pauline, and like what he was hearing had said that he had heard potentially like, you know, he might return back to the, to the, to the jets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I, you know, I just added like a line, you know, in case people didn't, you know, read the whole thing because they was centralated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like the feedback I got was like, ah, the mind is like going back to New York, they suck, keep going to go to a contender.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna say, and I'm like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: y'all don't understand how this like really works like I'm showing a perfect world like yeah he would like to go to a team that's like if he had it like if he could go to Chicago who is he could say is like a probably a good chance to be a playoff team and and what have you then that would make sense but the bear's cap situation isn't great they're trying to trade uh trip trip on Edmunds yeah so
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[SPEAKER_01]: You might have to just go where the money is and I just and it may be a place like the jet Like that is not that is not a crazy thing another thing I didn't say in money ain't going in Children when you when you when you're old player like money ain't sure for you brother You got to live on it shit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where's your life?
43:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes?
43:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, another thing I didn't add when when I sent you this is that they need to and I don't know who it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They got to bring another punner in.
43:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, obviously, it doesn't seem like they're going to change anything regarding the special teams coach, which don't know how that's possible, but um, they have to bring it another punner.
43:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Have to.
43:22
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a, that's a bro.
43:25
[SPEAKER_02]: That their vicious special team is, honestly, I bring it another.
43:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
43:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I look at another gunner.
43:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I look at, you know, just to get some like good, nice, fast physical, younger players in there.
43:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously you could do that in a draft like in D3 also, but, you know, get some special team stars in there, man.
43:45
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got to build out that special teams.
43:47
[SPEAKER_02]: In my fridge, you see also kind of look that some possible edge pressures doubt this
43:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, my feet from, you know, the sea hoax and, you know, John Franklin Myers and stuff like that.
44:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Those guys would be expensive, but I just kind of feeling that the same's going to be.
44:10
[SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be aggressive, bro, like, I think they're gonna be, like, I think they're gonna, I think they are, too.
44:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I've said it last week, they're interested in David Edwards.
44:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're interested in David Edwards, that tells me that you are willing to pay at least 15, 16 mil for a guard, like, so decent.
44:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that ended up itself is aggressive.
44:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think a perfect edge move for them.
44:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't include it, but I wanted that I forgot to, is if these sea hogs, because of all, like, you know, they have caspets, so they might not do it, but like, if the sea hogs were to cut, oh, you've gone on the USC 42.
44:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, it was 42.
45:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been calling that for three years, Wolf.
45:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, uh, uh, you want to, I believe I'm pronouncing it correctly, like if they were to cut him, I feel like that's like a perfect, uh, you're, you're typing the, to get the phonetic, like a perfect move that also fits very well into, um, Brandon's daily's system.
45:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, I would love that move.
45:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I've been also thinking about Lampaker,
45:35
[SPEAKER_02]: If tomorrow your David's walks, and yes, you know, obviously, Stasman should be lined up, but I also still wonder like you did, it's, they also wanna kind of upgrade that other guy, you know.
45:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I got a just good with Pete Warrner right there, like, like, I don't know, I don't know, I just, I'm like, I don't even call, I don't even consider Pete like an average line, bro, I just, I don't know, bro, I know what.
46:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I just keep going back to that 49er's game and Kyle Shannon had that boy circled with a Sharpie on his play sheet and was standing at that side.
46:18
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what Kyle Shannon did, Kyle Shannon will find the weakest point of your defense and just tear it up.
46:23
[SPEAKER_02]: And for our defense, it was number 20, people weren't up.
46:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't shake that, they're like, we got to do better than burr.
46:35
[SPEAKER_02]: We got to do better than burr.
46:37
[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like this gets lost right, but obviously new coaches when they come in, they inherit players.
46:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
46:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Kellen more inherited players last season, made changes obviously, but inherited a lot of players.
46:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Ben and Stanley inherited a lot of players.
46:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Now what's your two,
46:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Now maybe you like what's some bro like we I did the season thing with whoever I did the season thing with season release.
47:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I did the season thing with Pete Warner.
47:09
[SPEAKER_01]: But now like I need to get some of my type of guys in here.
47:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Whether that be all right.
47:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Just on the ball or defensive side of the ball.
47:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I could all right.
47:16
[SPEAKER_01]: It wouldn't shock me that the mind Jay said or didn't he said lover downs.
47:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you got to go watch our prospect of the week episode.
47:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Every time we do a prospect of the week episode,
47:30
[SPEAKER_01]: hybrid.
47:31
[SPEAKER_01]: My clouds are a little different from what's but it's not like I think the only thing the only difference is where we have love and downs in terms of our clouds.
47:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So you got to go back and listen to those rust dog 20 said Patriot member here.
47:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Love you guys.
47:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Keep up the great work.
47:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, rust dog.
47:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Dante said, I believe they'll be aggressive, but the question will be, well, free ages look at them differently compared to last all season.
47:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll know you are reported agents were telling players to stay away from New Orleans.
47:59
[SPEAKER_01]: How do I word this?
48:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel what I'll say this.
48:05
[SPEAKER_01]: There's still going to have to overpay for free agents.
48:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they just are.
48:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but I will say that the sense I get is because of
48:19
[SPEAKER_01]: specifically offensive draft prospects are more open to when to play in New Orleans which shook than they were prior to because like what like if you see what shook did if you're a carnailtate euro a limit you're a Jordan Tyson you like oh shit you got all right like so I feel like that's more appealing with the prospects don't know how much it is
48:45
[SPEAKER_01]: in terms of like free agents.
48:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I will say I've been told that defensive players do like the idea of coming to New Orleans to play for Brandon Staley.
48:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I have, and I said this on the podcast, what else?
48:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Man, friends, crazy old bro, because like every year would be all high for him, but then it's like that day won go quick.
49:06
[SPEAKER_02]: It goes quickly, not with the whole, with the whole, you know, a tampern period.
49:11
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like,
49:13
[SPEAKER_03]: But Monday, you know, my problem, yeah.
49:15
[SPEAKER_02]: They're done, bro, and we can, bro.
49:18
[SPEAKER_02]: And you look at it like your fridge.
49:19
[SPEAKER_02]: You listen to like, anybody love this?
49:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that this so fast, man?
49:25
[SPEAKER_02]: And usually, the past couple of years, the Saints have had to do all these like, you know, construction is gonna wait for this, wait for this.
49:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Restructure this.
49:33
[SPEAKER_02]: So by the time they get to the cap compliant part, you know, that first wave is gone.
49:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how they approach me this year.
49:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm assuming they're going to have all the little restructures that they need to do.
49:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I've already done probably already done.
49:47
[SPEAKER_01]: They're just over the cap by 10 million, which is like 10 million.
49:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
49:51
[SPEAKER_02]: So, peanuts and sesame things.
49:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Very easy to do.
49:56
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I assume they're going to be cap compliant.
50:00
[SPEAKER_02]: before everything gets started.
50:03
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's just gonna be interesting, bro.
50:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, cause you don't see them dudes man of free, it's probably been ready to sign.
50:10
[SPEAKER_02]: They have the places, they ready to go.
50:12
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's gonna be interesting to see if it's like last year or last couple of years where freedom is just fighting.
50:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I ain't going down there, I ain't going to go.
50:23
[SPEAKER_02]: And like even with Chuck, like you get's got to look at the reality of it, even with Chuck, but this is like, you know, prime time games, you know, like if you if you are player, like a, you know, 25, 26 year old player is hitting your prime.
50:37
[SPEAKER_02]: May you want to go somewhere, you want to make some money, but you also want to go somewhere and shine and be able to get top of all the pro's, all pro's, all pro's, first team, second pro, all pro, you want to go to a PC, man, it's just, you know, with the same right now, that's not happening.
50:53
[SPEAKER_02]: They're still like in the, they're in the rebuild right now.
50:56
[SPEAKER_01]: They're in it.
50:56
[SPEAKER_01]: They are, they are.
50:59
[SPEAKER_01]: One thing we didn't talk about with the graphic, but I put in in my side,
51:06
[SPEAKER_01]: is that I'm assuming a lot of Taylor is like no, not gonna be on the team, I'm just assuming that.
51:12
[SPEAKER_01]: So for me, in terms of like addressing that whole that might, that there'll be a nickel, I had said for the, if I'm them, I'm trying to, you know, call the Colts and see what's happening with Kenny Moore.
51:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, and over,
51:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Potentially looking to carto-flot, who played nilco for the Giants, like underrated football player, but I think he's gonna get like low key paid.
51:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's gonna get paid.
51:36
[SPEAKER_01]: So that might be either the range.
51:38
[SPEAKER_01]: But they have the dress nilco and some fashion.
51:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you don't wanna go into draft, like needing a nilco.
51:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you want to have some form like a nilco, like figured out.
51:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And then if you can draft a nilco, that's a better player, that's fine.
51:53
[SPEAKER_01]: But you don't wanna go into draft,
51:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I read somewhere that McDuffie for the chiefs could be available.
52:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder what he would demand as far as like a trade compensation, interesting.
52:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Because like, and a lot of his struggles has come from, you know, the cheese loss of their nickel, so he's basically, that's what I think the last season for sure he's been playing outside, and like he's buying outside, but like he's stellar at the nickel position.
52:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
52:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I was wondering like, hmm, if they want to be aggressive, you know, but how aggressive I'm not trying to give up no right.
52:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Major picks, but I don't know what type of picks it like who was the who's the other corner to get traded a couple years ago True to cheese.
52:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh Treated.
52:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I know the trade it or did he did he get cut did he get released?
52:52
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's one you got traded.
52:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh Remaker isn't No, it wasn't Texas Titans.
52:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
53:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
53:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Sneak the judge's knee.
53:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, there's knee.
53:05
[SPEAKER_02]: There we go.
53:06
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you get tired of?
53:07
[SPEAKER_01]: 2025 third round pick and a 2024 seventh round swap.
53:18
[SPEAKER_01]: So a third round.
53:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And there he was coming over.
53:25
[SPEAKER_02]: That was coming over for Super Bowl for our member currently.
53:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I would I would give I would give up a third for Trim and Duffy then you gonna you gotta pay them you're gonna pay them right this thing I'd I'd I'd feel a lot more comfortable paying Trim and Duffy than I would
53:42
[SPEAKER_01]: paying a lot of their dealer.
53:43
[SPEAKER_02]: So, and then it's like, kid, I know you got a decent little secondary.
53:48
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, okay, I could lead up and come in, you know, you got up and coming up, Quincy Brownie, then you got me toughy holding down the middle, you got, it's like, okay, we have a look, could go a little, yeah, it's there now.
54:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I'm just going to say, what if they dropped in the Caleb downs?
54:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
54:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
54:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Now you go and ask, I'll ask you this, who are you more confident it's going to be there at eight?
54:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Downs are love.
54:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm almost, I feel almost a hundred percent certain downs won't be there.
54:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel almost a hundred percent certain.
54:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I am more confident that he'll be there.
54:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was funny, because like a couple of days ago, you're here in the different, like you'll go higher.
54:42
[SPEAKER_01]: But I am more confident that Dallas is gonna be there at it.
54:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And it ain't got nothing to do with the whole to neat thing or whatever, you know, I just think it's just the whole safety thing, but it's just the whole safety thing.
54:56
[SPEAKER_02]: He's gonna be sitting at eight and it's saying he's gonna have to make a decision, do they pass on an elite prospect?
55:01
[SPEAKER_02]: So the lead prospect, bro.
55:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what they're going to do.
55:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if they're going to just roll with it.
55:09
[SPEAKER_02]: And it depends who's there with it.
55:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it comes down the way that we just has it.
55:13
[SPEAKER_02]: If it's love and down, it's like, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo,
55:28
[SPEAKER_02]: If you ask me on a different day, I'll probably give you a different answer.
55:32
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
55:33
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a hashtag either way we win exactly.
55:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Situation.
55:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd like to say it's fucking wrong to take somebody from neither of them, right?
55:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Take fucking broad lane in some shit.
55:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Bro, we, we're going to airline, bro.
55:51
[SPEAKER_01]: We, we are popping up on airline because you can, you can,
55:57
[SPEAKER_01]: The, like, it, I could see it, I could see it because it's so, like, not likely, like, as, as things fans were just used, especially, like, I'm, I'm more used to, like, losing, embarrassingly losing, embarrassingly in the draft than I am, like, on game day, like, because it's like always like, you know, always expectation and, and hopes up and, and
56:27
[SPEAKER_01]: They, if, if loving downs are there at eight, they, they, I, I'm not gonna say they can't fucking up because they could, but I don't, I don't get the sense that they would, that would be a great problem for them to have a great, great problem now, you imagine that shit, oh, I don't think, man, the football guys ain't they can't, or I ain't a witty, they can't do this, no, no, no, no, no, anyway, um,
56:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Trying to think, anything else free agent was, I didn't hit on him, but and I don't know if he's gonna be the pick, but I would just say that I could really see Jordan Tyson and Kelly Moore clicking.
57:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Just as the meaner, this is personality, no, that was that was interesting.
57:19
[SPEAKER_02]: You appointed it out.
57:20
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a good some good questions, and it's good, just listen it to him.
57:25
[SPEAKER_02]: You could completely see like kill it more in him or just like, yeah, it's my swell guy right there.
57:34
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my guy and I even loved his answer just saying that he wants you know come in and take in the pressure off of Chris a lot That's the shit.
57:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like Hmm, I like that
57:46
[SPEAKER_02]: I like, I like to like, even though like, you know, I know, I'm worried about injuries just like everybody else.
57:53
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm afraid.
57:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they drafted them.
57:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
57:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's fucking go.
57:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And I did.
57:59
[SPEAKER_01]: The injury things are so, because it was torn ACL in 2022, a broken collarbone the year after that.
58:08
[SPEAKER_01]: And then,
58:11
[SPEAKER_01]: The hamstring image size season was, he thought it was a cramp in the Texas Tech game.
58:21
[SPEAKER_01]: He goes back out there, plays on it, still like a dog in that game, and makes the hamstring injury worse.
58:28
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just, I don't, it's this tough, it's one of those things where, you know, you
58:40
[SPEAKER_02]: staff, I wish I had like plenty of faith, I wish I could say like, man, it's the same medical staff just get their hands on them.
58:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, if you had some kind of like, like, critical injury, like, yeah, yeah, something that's like a fixed life.
58:57
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, murmur or something like that, yeah, good to go.
59:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Brother like, Hammies, Hammies and like fractures and shits.
59:04
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not our specialty ready hold on hold on just inject a little hope in here We was all annoyed that Chase Young missed all that time at the beginning of the season this past season right you right Bet no, I'm just saying just trying to give try to get the people a little home.
59:23
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a great point man.
59:24
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a great point Because maybe I
59:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe maybe the medical situation and the personnel has changed.
59:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it has, you know, since it's been in the South.
59:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it felt like it was like at all time low and didn't the sound was that, go through it was ass.
59:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what are your, what's your good feeling on a Dallas go there with the ego?
59:49
[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds, it looks like he's going to be a free agent.
59:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like he would be a perfect fit for what Kellen want to do and break it and I just don't know if they would be able to afford him and that's why, but it's interesting because like I said last week, like the whole David and joku thing like that is real there's interest for with them and David with the David and joku, but this is also the first time Dallas got her's ever been a free agent in his like career like his he's been his entire career with the Eagles.
1:00:17
[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess the question is who would you?
1:00:25
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not this head, I chase out of the contract and then in the next Halo to an ibuprofen, but I'm like, it doesn't have to.
1:00:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but my question is, which one, like if you could choose between David and Joku and Dallas Goddard, and we don't know what's there either of them are going to get paid?
1:00:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Which one would you choose between,
1:00:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I just just because he's more consistent.
1:00:57
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a more consistent past catcher don't know how good a block he is.
1:01:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I never really paid attention to that.
1:01:03
[SPEAKER_02]: But from what I understand, he's a solid blocker like willing blocker or whatever, I'll let me report all the players.
1:01:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so.
1:01:11
[SPEAKER_02]: So I would go guided in that situation, but I'm cool with either one.
1:01:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I just can't shake him, leave it, Philia.
1:01:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess he's just because he's been there so long.
1:01:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't, he's staying there.
1:01:21
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a kind of like a pay cut to stay.
1:01:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, cut, but you know, I mean, it could be one of the things where it's like, man, look, let me just, if they're not willing to pay me and show me my work, let me go out there and get it.
1:01:32
[SPEAKER_02]: And he could have like a second,
1:01:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Like a second-third life career like, oh, yeah, that girl's there.
1:01:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Zackers, like Zackers did.
1:01:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he could have the same with Zackers, still out there playing, bro.
1:01:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Like damn, he's still playing, like shit.
1:01:47
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's, we'll wrap up on this thought.
1:01:50
[SPEAKER_01]: What's interesting is that Donald's got her at, like, had a career year in terms of, like, touchdowns and what have you.
1:01:55
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'll party wonders with all the,
1:01:59
[SPEAKER_01]: noise in Philly and and Jalen's inconsistency and just like the offense is kumbo sometimes very large.
1:02:06
[SPEAKER_01]: It could not that good.
1:02:08
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you might want to go to a team that has like better consistent quarterback play like on.
1:02:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:02:14
[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
1:02:15
[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
1:02:17
[SPEAKER_01]: By you said I wonder if Gaudert would give Kellen a slight discount.
1:02:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No.
1:02:25
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
1:02:28
[SPEAKER_01]: at all.
1:02:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyhow, we appreciate y'all.
1:02:32
[SPEAKER_01]: This has been fun episode, talking combat, talking for the agency, just to give y'all a heads up in terms of our schedule.
1:02:41
[SPEAKER_01]: So this weekend, we're doing the Mackay women prospect of the weekend.
1:02:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's going to be Patreon, only YouTube member only for the first two weeks exclusive early release.
1:02:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we'll be back next week.
1:02:53
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to depend on like what happens if we agency.
1:02:55
[SPEAKER_01]: So if the same
1:02:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Saint Stinson and some things happen on Monday will be back Monday if it's a little quiet.
1:03:02
[SPEAKER_01]: What have you will be back.
1:03:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Tuesday Wednesday or probably at least Tuesday to catch up, but that's going to be our plan for next week.
1:03:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Very, very, very busy week upcoming, you know, no, if we have to do any.
1:03:13
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