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Summer House Part 1 Reunion Recap with Jazmine Henley-Brown · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
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  Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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  Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well. Oh rain drops. On today's episode of
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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King, I'm back with Jasmine Henley Brown
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  Speaker 1: and which, by the way, I may have to call
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  Speaker 1: her new name pretty soon, but we'll talk about that later.
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  Speaker 1: But anyways, we are recapping Summer House reunion and there
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  Speaker 1: is no one more fitting than Jazz to recap part
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  Speaker 1: one reunion with me. And guess what, range, Josh, she'll
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  Speaker 1: be back to recap parts two and three. Give it
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  Speaker 1: up for the one the only Jasmine Humley Hei.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Carlos, I have to know how you
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  Speaker 2: felt about this for reunion. I was watching this reunion.
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  Speaker 2: I thought of you. I thought of you. I swear
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  Speaker 2: you're in my thoughts more than you know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you're in my thoughts all the time. And it's
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  Speaker 1: funny because I listen, you know, I because Jasmine is
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  Speaker 1: the former former EP of Reality with the King. She
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  Speaker 1: helped launch the podcast back in twenty twenty one, So
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  Speaker 1: Jasmine knows. I'm a workhorse and I wind down on
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  Speaker 1: my eight or nine. And Jasmine doesn't know this, but
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  Speaker 1: I think about her all the time. I'm watching scripted
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  Speaker 1: shows and I'm like, I think there's a show that
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  Speaker 1: I want Jasmine to watch. Jasmine, are you watching this
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  Speaker 1: show on HBO Max? That is like super It's a
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  Speaker 1: scripted show. I feel so horrible because IM trying to
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  Speaker 1: pick up the name of it. It's like him and something.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about. It's on HBO Max.
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  Speaker 1: Is it he Him? I saw giving a pronounce It's okay?
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  Speaker 1: You know the guy who did Baby Reindeer on Netflix.
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  Speaker 2: No, I didn't watch that. I know I did. I
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  Speaker 2: attempt it, and I was just like, yeah, I need
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  Speaker 2: to find this show though, because I love me some
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  Speaker 2: HBO Max. They have some of the best. Is it DT?
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  Speaker 1: I think so too? I think so too? You So
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  Speaker 1: what is it DT?
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  Speaker 2: Saint Louis?
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  Speaker 1: No, I watched that? Have you seen that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I haven't finished it though, but I did like it.
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  Speaker 2: I like it was weird. It was weird.
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  Speaker 1: It's weird.
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  Speaker 2: I like it.
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  Speaker 1: I feel it was kind of slow. It's called Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I found this called half Man. No, okay, it's so good.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people on Twitter, you're more of a
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  Speaker 1: threads girly, but a lot of people on Twitter they
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  Speaker 1: have a love hate with it because they're saying it's
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  Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna give it away, but they're saying
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  Speaker 1: it's so aggressive in some scenes. Okay that it's hard
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  Speaker 1: to watch, but I know that my girl Jazz has
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  Speaker 1: the stomach for it. So every week I'm watching it.
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  Speaker 1: The finale. The series is a limited series. The series
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  Speaker 1: finale is tomorrow. Every Thursday, from the past seven weeks,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, text Jazz, but it's ten thirty and one
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  Speaker 1: thing I don't do. I'm not texting. No one's woman past.
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  Speaker 1: You got that ray not doing it?
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  Speaker 2: Imagine my phone's going on and he's like, who is that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, it's Carlos.
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  Speaker 1: Carlo.
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  Speaker 2: You got somebody else namesake that Carlos.
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  Speaker 1: K exactly exactly exactly, but not to check it out, No,
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  Speaker 1: check it out. Please give me your thoughts, Please give
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  Speaker 1: me your thoughts. You it's it's it's it's jaw dropping crazy,
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  Speaker 1: but you have the stomach for it. And I really, really,
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  Speaker 1: really really enjoy it. Now.
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe I haven't heard of it if it's
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  Speaker 2: been on for seven weeks, I've been I watched HBO
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  Speaker 2: Max every night because I'm watching Girls for the first time.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I was. I watch all the time because I
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  Speaker 1: love Hacks.
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  Speaker 2: Hacks is my favorite comedy, and I'm like moving through
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  Speaker 2: it slowly. I haven't. I don't watch it week to
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  Speaker 2: week because I'm trying to like savor it because I
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  Speaker 2: feel like if I don't watch the episodes and it
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  Speaker 2: won't end, even though it's gonna end anyway. I'm a
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  Speaker 2: little Debbie. Deborah Vance is like my favorite person in
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  Speaker 2: the world. Like I wish she was real, really do.
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  Speaker 1: I wish she was real too? And what's funny is
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  Speaker 1: I feel like she could be real. So that means
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  Speaker 1: you're not caught up this season.
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  Speaker 2: I am caught I've been watching this season. I just
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  Speaker 2: not caught up on the latest step, Like okay, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What's the okay, what happened in the last episode you watched.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the last episode I watched was when Jimmy and
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  Speaker 2: Kayla when they were going to get her car and
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  Speaker 2: her dad cut her off. He turned he uh okay,
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  Speaker 2: stopped her trust when Jimmy was wearing that juicy Oh okay, So.
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  Speaker 1: You okay, because I don't want to spoil it. So
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  Speaker 1: you saw the episode that was the same episode where
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  Speaker 1: Debbie and what's her right hand woman's name Eva where
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  Speaker 1: they went to a friend's house.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, my mantasito right to do what I forget, but
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  Speaker 2: they had to act like they were a couple.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, yeah, that was the no no. So when
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  Speaker 1: I watched TV, you know, and it's funny because I
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  Speaker 1: love Hacks, but you know nothing, it's like Marin Martin
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  Speaker 1: is like the laugh out loud comedy of my lifetime.
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  Speaker 1: Jas Manley Brown, I laughed throughout the thirty minutes. You know.
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  Speaker 1: I that them playing lesbians and it happened to kiss
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  Speaker 1: and Leslie Bibb was okay, anyways, I'm just that's my
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  Speaker 1: favorite episode ever of Hacks by the way.
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  Speaker 2: Oh oh, I love that. I love that. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 2: a good one to.
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  Speaker 1: Play because it was sort of like they were leading
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  Speaker 1: in the fact that you two do act like lovers,
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  Speaker 1: although you guys aren't there, Aba so did for me.
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  Speaker 1: She's so good and Leslie. I love Leslie Bib. I
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  Speaker 1: think she's amazing. Anyway, Guys, watch Hacks, watch half Man.
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  Speaker 1: That's our scripted run.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Euphoria and your friends and neighbors and with else.
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  Speaker 1: You are the one who got me on your friends
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  Speaker 1: in the neighbors. So I'm watching that. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: there's a new Apple TV scripted show that I'm watching.
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  Speaker 1: It just came out two weeks ago. Which one is
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  Speaker 1: that Oh gosh, okay, hold on, it's it's shit.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like you're talking about Okay.
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  Speaker 1: It's called Maximum Pleasure, guaranteed.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't gotten into it yet because I'm I'm doing
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  Speaker 2: Widow's Bay, like I'm catching up on that.
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  Speaker 1: Good.
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  Speaker 2: It's really good. It's funny. It's a thriller, but it
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  Speaker 2: has like some comedy to it. It's like Stephen King esque. Yeah, Like,
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  Speaker 2: so it's it's good. That was a scripted moment rain Drops.
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  Speaker 1: So listen, rain Drops. That is your scripted update for sure,
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  Speaker 1: because now we are getting into summer house. So I
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  Speaker 1: love the fact that you thought of me watching the reunion,
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  Speaker 1: as you know, rain drops, I no shade. I am
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  Speaker 1: familiar with the Summer House, but I'm not a diehard watcher.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen a few episodes over the years, obviously with
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  Speaker 1: the Amanda West era of it all. I said, listen,
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  Speaker 1: I am devoted to the rain Drops because I know
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  Speaker 1: you guys want me to recap Summerhouse. So I did
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  Speaker 1: watch the reunion and I was pleasantly entertained.
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  Speaker 2: I knew you would be. I knew you I was.
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  Speaker 2: There were so many moments where I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I know Carlos likes this.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, you mean when Sierra kept dragging Amanda call her
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  Speaker 1: weak and said that's why West wants you, and then
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  Speaker 1: not to get to the end of it all. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying Sierra is gorgeous.
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  Speaker 2: Oh beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. I will say, though, if we're
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  Speaker 2: talking about clearing the set, Lindsay cleared the motherfucking set.
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  Speaker 2: Lindsay that red with that blonde hair. She says she
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  Speaker 2: got a spray tan she had by the oil body glitter.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever she did, cleared it, loved it. So Europe you
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  Speaker 2: knew that though, like we knew Sierra was gonna look good.
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  Speaker 2: But I was very impressed by Lindsay, very impressed by Lindsay.
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  Speaker 1: No, so Lindsay looked good. Mia is a beautiful woman too.
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  Speaker 2: I was into me beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, everyone looked good. Now the one who
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  Speaker 1: didn't look good to me? And we'll get well, we'll
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  Speaker 1: go back to start from the top. I don't see
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  Speaker 1: what the girls seeing. Wes West looks like somebody that
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  Speaker 1: was on the show Roseanne. He looks like somebody that
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  Speaker 1: was friends with Becky. Okay, Becky number two, bitch, not
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  Speaker 1: number one. He just looks like somebody that worked with
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  Speaker 1: Dan Connor. Yeah, he was like DJ's older blonder brother.
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  Speaker 1: What's t jazz?
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  Speaker 2: He does? And I like, I've never seen it for him, really,
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  Speaker 2: I'll say this, I've never seen it for him physically.
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  Speaker 2: But there are certain videos like be for the scandal
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  Speaker 2: before y'all come at me like she likes lass Uh no, okay,
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  Speaker 2: but before the scandal he will post certain videos and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, on a drunken night, like I could totally
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  Speaker 2: see how he could like charm you like, and that's
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  Speaker 2: what all the girls on the cast say. He's so charming,
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  Speaker 2: even Lindsey said it during this reunion, like you're so good.
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  Speaker 2: You know how to like get women, you know how
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  Speaker 2: to do all of this get people to like you.
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  Speaker 2: So there is a certain charm I think about him
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  Speaker 2: and not you know, we're we're all from the Midwest,
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  Speaker 2: all three of us, you know what I mean. Westerners
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  Speaker 2: just have that charm about them. So maybe that's what
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  Speaker 2: it is. But yeah, physically, like if I was walking
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  Speaker 2: past him down the New York street, I'm pumping down
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  Speaker 2: the New York City street. I'm not looking twice at
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  Speaker 2: West now, Ben.
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  Speaker 1: Kyle, Oh now, Kyle, batter me up, bitch, greez me
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  Speaker 1: down with Cisco grease, motherfucker baby, batter me butter my biscuits.
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  Speaker 1: Why don't you so, I'll take my egg plant.
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  Speaker 2: You will be his lover boy? I know that's right, KYLEO.
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  Speaker 2: That is a beautiful man. And shout out to that
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  Speaker 2: lady that told him he would make a beautiful lesbian,
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  Speaker 2: because I also agree.
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  Speaker 1: I agree too. He looks like somebody that a but
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  Speaker 1: with day on the.
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  Speaker 2: Hack, a beautiful davemn. And that's not shade and that's
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  Speaker 2: not shape.
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  Speaker 1: That shape now, what was shady on Summer House. I
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  Speaker 1: love how they started it. It gave me. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you watched this show. Do you watch it?
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen it, but are you like a
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  Speaker 1: Kardashian watcher?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I us so. I used to watch them when
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  Speaker 2: they were on E okay, are gonna y'all are gonna
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  Speaker 2: crucify me? I used to tweet like time to watch
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  Speaker 2: my sisters because I loved them, So I used to
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  Speaker 2: always watch them when they were.
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  Speaker 1: On E okay. So that means you know the episode
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  Speaker 1: of talking about when the Kardashians found out that Tristan
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  Speaker 1: Thompson fathered outside baby on Chloe.
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  Speaker 2: No, I have stopped watching by then. I did not
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  Speaker 2: watch any in that era, but paint the picture. Paint
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  Speaker 2: the picture.
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  Speaker 1: So that particular episode opened up with all the sisters
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  Speaker 1: getting these text messages and you heard these sound effects
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  Speaker 1: of ding ding ding, and you they were in their confessionals,
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  Speaker 1: so you saw like Kim Chloe comes then to get
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  Speaker 1: glam and She's like, are you fucking kidding me? And
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  Speaker 1: Kim's like I know that. Kim calls Kylie Colly's like,
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  Speaker 1: what happened? I just foked to Jordan. So it was
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  Speaker 1: this whole thing Chloe's crying via the phone. So Summerhouse
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  Speaker 1: Reunion opens up with them discovering, well, not they, it
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  Speaker 1: really is Kyle and Lindsey discovering that Amanda and West
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  Speaker 1: release a statement confirming this rumor that they were, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in a relationship or intimate whatever. And I love the
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  Speaker 1: fact that we were able to see things happen in
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  Speaker 1: real time. I thought that was very smart, shady in
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  Speaker 1: a good way. Yeah, and really really was the smartest
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  Speaker 1: way to open up this reunion to.
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  Speaker 2: Me, I agree with you, and it really was. It
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  Speaker 2: showed how much they were all going to stick together
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  Speaker 2: as a group, Like it really set the tone like
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  Speaker 2: Amanda and West are on an island by themselves, this
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  Speaker 2: group over here is going to stick together, and it's
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  Speaker 2: just kind of going to be them against the world.
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  Speaker 2: So I think it really did a really good job
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  Speaker 2: at like setting the tone for that by showing Lindsay
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  Speaker 2: and Kyle on the couch together and then everybody calling them,
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  Speaker 2: obviously outside of Sierra, but everybody else kind of onlike
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  Speaker 2: these group calls and Carl called and like Patriman, So
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  Speaker 2: it was very much a show of like their their
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  Speaker 2: solidarity to be on the side of Kyle, because I
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  Speaker 2: feel like through all of this, Kyle is really getting
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  Speaker 2: lost in all of this. Nobody's considering the fact that
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  Speaker 2: he is literally the husband in the situation and it's
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  Speaker 2: about Sierra West and Amanda in Pork. You will need
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  Speaker 2: to console him, Carlos, You're gonna need to console him.
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  Speaker 1: I have enough biceps, triceps, and glutes to make that
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  Speaker 1: this is giving reality up the dark teeth, So Rachel, sorry. PG. Thirteen. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: please put the headphones on the kids if you are
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  Speaker 1: driving in the car listening to this episode. That is
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  Speaker 1: my disclaimer for the day. Now, so you see, like
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  Speaker 1: you said, Kyle, no one talks about the fact that
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  Speaker 1: his wife is the one that is sleeping with his homeboy.
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  Speaker 1: And what I did love because again I'm not a
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  Speaker 1: faithful watcher. I love the fact that the producers allowed
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  Speaker 1: someone like me because they knew that new viewers would
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  Speaker 1: have watched this one. Yeah, so I appreciated the backstory
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  Speaker 1: of Kyle saying, you know me and Wes hang Au,
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  Speaker 1: I was just with him recently doing X, Y and
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  Speaker 1: Z to really paint the picture about this betrayal. And
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  Speaker 1: even when Carl called and started to say, like, look,
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  Speaker 1: my suspicions were accurate, you know, seeing Wes touch Amanda inappropriately,
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  Speaker 1: who's a married woman. And Mia gets on and she
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  Speaker 1: says that they've been doing this since January, not for
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  Speaker 1: a month, which is what Amanda told Kyle, so.
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  Speaker 2: Lating.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, clearly Amanda and West have been messing
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  Speaker 1: around longer than what the release stated.
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  Speaker 2: I don't I'm so on the fence about that because
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  Speaker 2: like they are just a touchy philly group, Like when
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  Speaker 2: you watch the episodes, like they just do that. They
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  Speaker 2: all like lie in the bed together, they cuddle with
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  Speaker 2: each other, some of them cuddle each other when they're sleeping,
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  Speaker 2: and it's completely platonic. Like they're just a touchy group
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  Speaker 2: to me. But I will say people have been like
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  Speaker 2: pointing out moments within this season where Wes was like
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  Speaker 2: two touchy and it all was like after that big
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  Speaker 2: blow up fight that Kyle and Carl had. You probably
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  Speaker 2: didn't see that one, but Kyle and Carl had like
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  Speaker 2: they were about to go to blows with each other
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  Speaker 2: and then they made up the very next episode. Because
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  Speaker 2: that's how men do. They just y'all just get over
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  Speaker 2: stuff so quick. Absolutely, yeah, but that but that episode,
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  Speaker 2: you could actually see Wes like grabbing Amanda, like putting
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  Speaker 2: his head on her shoulder while she's trying to like
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  Speaker 2: keep Kyle from fighting Carl. It was so it was
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  Speaker 2: so weird because it's like he couldn't keep his hands
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  Speaker 2: off of her while she's literally like touching her husband.
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  Speaker 2: And then actually, I'm sorry before that because he pulled
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  Speaker 2: his chair around when when Kyle the fight with Carl
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  Speaker 2: and Kyle started because Kyle was yelling at Amanda, he
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  Speaker 2: told Amanda to shut the f up. Wes put his
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  Speaker 2: chair next to Amanda as in like he was defending Amanda.
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  Speaker 2: So Amanda walks around after the dinner is done, Amanda
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  Speaker 2: walks around the corner, she sees Wes and she's like
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  Speaker 2: the Wayne, you pulled your chair up next to me.
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  Speaker 2: And then they were raised and they're just like bitch,
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  Speaker 2: like knowing what we know now, It's like, is this
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  Speaker 2: where this started? Because it was so weird. She was
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  Speaker 2: just like lazy, clean and chair next to me, like
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  Speaker 2: he was like her savior or her white night if
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  Speaker 2: you will, literally and figuratively. And then yes, the fight
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  Speaker 2: with Kyle and Carl, he's like happening outside. He yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like can't keep his hands off of her. It's so
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  Speaker 2: it's so weird. But I don't know. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: we'll ever know the truth. But yees. Mia speculated that
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  Speaker 2: they have been messing around at least since January, and
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  Speaker 2: then Kyle said there have been blind item since January
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  Speaker 2: of the previous year.
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  Speaker 1: I think yes, he said that. I literally heard twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty five and I'm like, wait a second, I just
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  Speaker 1: heard about this shit two months ago, Like what is happening?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So I don't think we'll ever I don't
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  Speaker 2: think we'll ever get the real timeline. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: we'll ever get the real timeline.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and listen, I will say, when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: what you described to me about West being Amanda's you know,
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  Speaker 1: white knight in that moment, I think you know you
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  Speaker 1: and I can speak for the girls. You know, most
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  Speaker 1: women love when a man is seen as her protector
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  Speaker 1: or defender, and I think that is something that could
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  Speaker 1: have if we're gonna speculate, I can totally see that
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  Speaker 1: moment being maybe the introduction into like, oh I see
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  Speaker 1: you differently, and perhaps that wasn't the moment that feelings
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  Speaker 1: from you know, Amanda started to arose.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I could totally see that being the case. I
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  Speaker 2: wish it would have stayed there though. But here we are, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: here we are.
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  Speaker 1: So we see Andy check in on Sierra separately. Then
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: of course he goes to check in on Amanda and West.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: First thing with Sierra. You know, she talks about how
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: because Ay asker, like, who are you most heart at?
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Is it Amanda or West? And she said, Amanda, And
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you this. Let's have a real conversation.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Let's I get girl code, but I also get relationship code.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: And I feel like if I was in that situation,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: and this is somebody who who is honest about not
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: knowing the full history of this show. But I always
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: find it interesting when both parties in this case, Amanda
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: and West are at fault. From my research and from
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: our last conversation two months ago about the breaking news
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: of it all, Amanda and cerwork were not best friends.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: And when you think of best friends, you think Robin, right,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: you think marisaw and Alexia, you even child you men
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: think of like Ninie and Cynthia, like two people who
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: you're like, No, those are two peas in a pod.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I was surprised that she's more hurt with Amanda, and
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I get being hurt with Amanda, but her and West,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: from my knowledge, were in a relationship and basically watching
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: the reunion, they show all these flashbacks and kissy making
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: out in the bin, all this other stuff, I would
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: be more pissed at my ex man more, I would
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: say more pissed if this girl was not my best friend.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: My question, you, Jazz, were they best friends?
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: So I and I said this when we when we
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: got into the mess, I did not think they were
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: like best friends. I thought that that was like their
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: position on the show, right, that that was like what
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: they came into the role on the shows, that they
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: had to be best friends on the show. Now, according
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: to everyone else, they were best friends. And then when
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: everybody else refers to them as best friends, neither of
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: them have ever come out to clarify and be like, no,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: we actually weren't best friends. So I guess I was wrong. Whatever,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of these relationships, That's what I'm saying.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I've watched the show since season one. Now their friendship
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: has certainly grown closer, because you know, Sierra came in
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: with another past cast member, Luke, and she met Amanda
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: then and then that season where her and Kyle got married,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Paige was in Amanda's wedding. Sierra wasn't, but that's because,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: like they weren't that close at the time. But I
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: do think just over the years, you know, you share
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: a summerhouse with somebody, every year, you get closer with them.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: So while yeah, I wasn't, I was on the fence
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: about them being best friends, it seems like that's the
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: story that they themselves are sticking with, so I have
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: no choice but to them roll with that. Her and West, though,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: to answer your ques question, I do think it makes
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: more sense for her to be upset with Amanda because
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: her and West dated for like a couple of months
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. So that's why when I've
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: been as I've been talking about this scandal, I'm like,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: it makes no sense to me for her to be
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: so upset with Wes because they didn't really have that
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: much of a connection. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I think
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: your assessment of the depths of the relationship should flip.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: So like hern and Mada certainly had a closer relationship
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: than her and West, So it made sense to me
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: that she would be more upset with Amanda because Amanda
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: was shy sear she said she's shocked by West, but
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Amanda certainly hurt her more, which makes sense to me.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: That tracks now, that track, And the good thing about
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: me asking the question is because again, as my rain drops,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of them don't watch Summer. How so it's
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: good that I'm able to be their boys in terms
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: of this and in this moment. Now I get it
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: because I didn't know that their relationship Sierra and West
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: was a few months a few years ago and still
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: being florded whatnot. But like you said, her and Amanda's
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: friendship has blossom significantly since, so now I totally get it,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: totally get it.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: It's also like, sorry, her and West dated for a
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: couple of months a couple of years ago, and then
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: they didn't speak for two years, like they had a
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: bad breakup, and then they we went like two seasons
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: with her just like refusing to talk to Wes. So
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: like this is actually the first season where they are
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: in communication and they're rebuilding their friendship and trying to
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: get back on track. So it is I stand on
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: the fact that, like, I think it's so weird for
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: her to be so territorial over him, because I'm like,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: you guys went longer not speaking you then you dated
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: in the time that you've known each other, So I
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: don't understand that. But yeah, it's it's Amanda. Amanda definitely
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: is bogus for her.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so this and and for all the people saying
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: it now that I have that backstory, this this baby,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: this is Disney's plus compared to Scandaval. Like Scandabal to
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: me was they lived together, you know what I mean.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: They were they were currently in a relationship. They were
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: together for years and the artist for me known as
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Rachel her new name is Raquel. She obviously they were
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: like this threesome of friends. So that's why that stung
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: the most. And again before y'all trying to drag me,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not downplaying the pain, but I'm saying two things
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: can be true. What Wes did to Sierra is fucked up,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: and he deserves all the anngs that's coming his way.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, for the Bravo audience, stop comparing this
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: to Scandabal. It's sort of like comparing Candy and Phaedra's
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: destruction of friendship with Wendy and Giselle. It's like, yes, that's.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: A good that is a good comparison. Scandival was so different,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: I think again, though, what is getting lost here are
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: the similarities between this and Scandival. There's a ten year
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: relationship in both of these things. Kyle and Amanda have
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: been together for ten years, right, so like there is
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: a tenure relationship that is now ruined. But yeh, Scandival,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I do think Scandival was like just it was just different.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: But this is still really really bad. This is still
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: and it's bad.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: It's bad. And once again I'm not downplaying, right Pa.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, as somebody who watched these shows, I
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: now don't understand why you guys are comparing it. And
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: it was nice that Andy mentioned that in this reunion,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: especially as he was talking to Jesse, which will get
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: into a second but backstage, Andy speaks to Amanda and
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: she does say there's a lot of guilt that she feels, which, look,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I will say, having never really seen this woman, and
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: this is no shade she was giving me Rosemund Pike
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: and gone girl, I mean in terms of like old
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: girl looked lost, washed, like if that her normal did
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: pan look?
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she looks like that most of the time. If
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: she's not yelling at Kyle Coyn, Kyle's not answering the phone, Kyle.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: If she's not yelling at Kyle, she's crying in the bed.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Baby, she looks like not a fun time.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: You just you. I don't think you know you just
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: referenced one of the most popular quotes from Summer House, Yes,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: yes you are. One of the most popular scenes from
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: this entire show. Kyle and Amanda are having an argument
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: per usual, and Kyle he goes, summer is supposed to
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: be fun. He looks like her, goes, Amanda, not fun.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Okay, see, I know what the fuck I'll be talking about.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: She I'm looking at her like, cause listen.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: As a reality producer, it is my job to make
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: sure that I see things from all sides, because you
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: never want to listen on my shows. I know when
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: somebody's wrong right, and I'll call them out on it.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: But we're all human, and I always try to find like, Okay,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: where's the grace in this situation? So I'm looking at
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Amanda like I want to find some room for grace
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: in you, but it's gone. But you're giving me gone girl,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: and I can't. I can't find this. So her saying
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: guilt find whatever that's expected, boring, boring, boring, Sierra crying
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: to Kyle really did something on me. Amanda. I'm not Amanda.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Sierra is heartbroken.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: She's really sad. I think it's the betrayal of it all.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: It's the fact that she was asking before all of
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: this came out, and Amanda was like lying to her
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: face and then to know that she was lying to
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: her it is super her fault. And I will I
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: will maybe retract some of my own well not I
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: retract my thoughts. But I think I even I was
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: not understanding like why she was so hurt when all
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: of this is breaking out. I think a part of
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: me just wanted to be like, bitch, like you don't
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: ever let these people see you sweat, like so like
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: pay it right.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Because you are to cookie.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: I wanted her to pay it now if we're gonna
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: cry at night in our rooms. Yeah, but I like
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: the two of y'all. This man who looks like he
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: doesn't shower or he showers once a month, and this
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: this girl who also looks like she doesn't shower that often.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I didn't want sea Era to let them see. And
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: then I also, yeah, I was just confused about the
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: whole thing, Like, why are you so up and arms
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: about this guy that, like, you know, Y'ALLU and y'all
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: dated for a couple of months. Girl, move on already.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: So I have been harsher on Sierra, but watching the
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: rest of the season play out and then getting into
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: this reunion, I do feel so bad for not, I
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: think allowing her a little more understanding in this because
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: I think I was just looking at it, like, girl,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: get over it. It wasn't that long, but she does
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: seem very very hurt by it. I'll tell you the
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: part when Andy was when they were showing them in
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: their dressing rooms. That really killed me. When Amanda and
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: West were on the couch, he was like lying, like
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: lying on her. I was like, get the camera off,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: these bastards, now get to the camera, dead ass.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Dude.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: That I was so annoyed by them because they were
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: just and they they're just so Amanda's just so fucking smug,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Like I think that's also what it gets under my skin,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: and it's just like she's so fucking smug, like, ooh,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: let's see your Sierra got it right though she definitely,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: oh she.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Did, she did, so I felt bad and to see
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Sierra apologized to Kyle and he's like, you don't got
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: to apologize to me, and she's like, no, I just
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: don't apologize for misunderstanding you and the whole situation because
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: and in that moment, it is when I said, Okay,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Sierra is a girl's girl. And because her and Amanda
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: were friends, clearly Amanda share some things to Sierra about
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Kyle that she was like, yeah, girl, fuck him. But
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: now she's realizing, like, oh, you are actually the shady one.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: But well, she wasn't wrong for telling Amanda because car,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, Kyle has not been a cakewalk. Let's not
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: let's not get that twisted. The heat is on Amanda
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: and West, but Kyle has historically not been a good
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: husband to Amanda. If this scandal wouldn't have come out,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Kyle would have been in the hot seat the way
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: that West and Amanda were for his actions this summer.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah he, I mean he has shed and Amanda I
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: was gonna say he hasn't cheated on her, but he
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: definitely has cheated on her.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: As a as a husband.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: He says, no, but he cheated on her before they
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: got married. She said he did cheat on her while
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: they were married, or I think made out with somebody,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: somebody one of the rain drops, you guys know, I
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: think he the rumors that he made out with someone
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: during their marriage the.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Record, are they still married, like right now?
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: I believe legally yes, separated yes, but legally yeah. Amanda
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: said in the reunion that she has retained counsel, and
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: so I guess they're moving forward with the divorce. But
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: we're watching them play out like we're watching them get
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: separated on in the City, the new show that just
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: came out, And they're not legally divorced by the state
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: of New York or New Jersey wherever the hell they
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: got married.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: This is so messy. So in the reunion, Andy plays
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: a clip where Wes was on Watch What Happens Live
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: with Simone Sanders Hey, Simone, and he is asked about
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: these rumors like it's on Reddit. People are saying like
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: you and Amanda were spoted holding hands and all this stuff,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: and he completely denies it. And then the era starts
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: giving timeline, proof and receipts in terms of like January
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: seventeenth is when she first speculated this and how Amanda
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: was at West House that she called her and a
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: man did not answer, and amandas like, actually it was
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: only thirty minutes. And I'm like, a lot can happen
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: in thirty minutes if you catch my drift.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Right, I responded, in thirty minutes? What after you?
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: You got done?
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Look at his asphole, are you This is not this
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: is not a show. This is not that show.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Can just tosses salad at me and listen, Amanda West
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: does a very different way. It's okay, Yes, it's okay,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Yes you.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Needed about thirty minutes to respond to her, but yes,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Siera said she has suspected this since since January because
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: she looked at Amanda's location and that location was at
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: West's house. I hate having to say West's like West's
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: because yeah, like we like West's house, like the ownership
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: of the house, right, like they kept to I noticed
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: on the reunion that come, you're at west House, and
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: I'm like, but that's grammatically incorrect. It's West's. But that's
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: hard to say. It's hard to say why do you
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: have to have such a dumb name West? But yes,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Sierra had her. She had her text messages and they
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: were showing us on the screen of text messages, and Amanda, yeah,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: she deserved all the shots that Sierra took at her,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: because she was just like, just to know somebody was
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: like lying and playing in your face like that, I
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: would have been incensed. And then when she was like
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: they were talking about Amanda not having friends and they're like,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: all of your friends are West's friends, and.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: You're trying so hard to grammatically say this shit right,
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: you're like all of our West.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Sierra had to tell her to shut the fuck up
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: more than a couple times, and I was like, I
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: know that's right. I watched you a Sensor version. I
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: watched it last night live, and then I watched you
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: a Sensor version today and I was.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Like, oh, well, Sierra, come get your batty change. She
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: was reading for Phil And what was so unfortunately is
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: how that's why Amanda, you're not a girl's girl. Because
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: even when Sierra was like, I've been trying to invite
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: you the places and see you, and you're you're so busy,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: you don't have time for any of the girls, but
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: you have time to be with Wes. And in that moment,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I said, oh, you are not a girl's girl. And
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: they even clocked it too, Jazz when they're like, Wes
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: is not even defending you in this moment.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: No, And he's not gonna look around, do you see
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: her anywhere? You're not gonna He's not gonna defend her. Okay,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: he's not that. He's not that guy. That's why it's
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: so weird to like throw away your friendships, like get
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: into this bad position even though you're divorcing Kyle, but
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: like get into this bad position with him for West,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: like he's not gonna defend you. He's probably not even
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: gonna really fuck with you for that that much longer.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Like Lindsey clocked it. He's a cloud chaser, like he's
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: a cloud demon. He saw. There was a theory on
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Threads and Kyle Cook repulsed it and said that he
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: believes this theory more than anything else. Somebody said that
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: West saw how Kyle was treating Amanda this season. He
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: thought Amanda was gonna get the Ariano Mattic treatment from
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: vander Pump like once to see he's an air everybody
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: would be on her side because of how horribly Kyle
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: was treating her. So he snuggled up to her because
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: he wanted to be on the right side of history
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: and be friends with her so that when this season
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: came out, everyone can say, oh, look at Wes. He
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: was like defending Amanda. He was on her side when
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: she gets her like princess moment, right. So Kyle reposted
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: that on Thursday, he was like, I believe this theory
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: more than any other theory that I've seen. So Wes
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: was like very deliberate in his like protection and defense
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: of Amanda because he wanted to come off favorably to
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: the audience. And that's his entire game. And that's why
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: it's like they don't they don't have any choice but
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: to like dig their heels in now because they've been
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: found out. But I feel like if they could have
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: just like if you could have just fucked her and
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: like left this under the radar, he would have smashed
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: and passed, like it wouldn't have been this whole thing.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: But now they got caught, so now you got kind
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: of got to stick with it because you would look
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: like even more of a jerk if you drop her
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: at this moment. But I don't see this lasting that long.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: I don't see this last.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: It's one of those things where they have to stay
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: committed in order to not feel like they're stupid. You
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: know when you were younger and your parents told you
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: not to do.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Something, Carlos, stop it? Why do you read my mind?
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: I was literally about to say, you know, when you're
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: younger and you're dating someone and your parents don't like them,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: and y'all have to show like, no, this is not
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: a face mom, I'm in love with him.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Or yes I was. No. Seriously, you're like, I cannot
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: prove my mom right.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: I am going to stay committed to the situation knowing
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: that fuck.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: My Bob was right the whole time. I one thousand
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: percent think that's what's happening. I think I think Wes
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: is like I'm stuck with her.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's that's it. Inside note, my mom actually told me.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: She was like, that's why I never told you, Like
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: when I didn't like one of your boyfriends, I will
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: wait until y'all broke up and be like, because she
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: would do that, we would break up and she was like,
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: he was ugly as hell. I didn't like him, but
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: she wouldn't say it right away because she knew. But yes,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: that's exactly what's happening.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Mama's the goat what's.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Happening with them? That is exactly what happens.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: And it's evident because I see no chemistry, you.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Know, No, I don't see any chemistry between them, Like
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: I don't even see how they have fun, because again,
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Amanda not fun. For everything bad we could say about West,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: he does seem like a good time, which is probably
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: also what adds to his charm. So I don't really
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: see them be incompatible, like and it's not it's not
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: worth it. It's really not worth it. But they're gonna
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: stick beside each other for now, I guess no.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: And even when Jesse again that's when Anthy asks him,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: like people are saying you're the Tom Schwartz of a situation,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: that you know about it, and he said he asked
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: the both of them, and how they both denied them
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: when he confronted them about the rumors. So look, I
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I the theory does seem plausible, especially because when you
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: look at how they are responding to each other, it
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: is weird. I mean, look, yes, he was laying on
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: on the couch. But I think what Lindsey Mia and
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Sierra Sierra was outlighting, not Sierra.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Zera, Sierra the singer that Sierra.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: It was blog the days of the YBF. That's a
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: whole other podcast episode child. I used to let the podcast,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I mean blogged anyways of how West is coming across performative.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: So even Kyle mentioned it too, like you're dropping breadcrumbs,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Like what are you doing? I feel like it's weird.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: So I want to ask you that, like you been
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: watching the show since day one, how did you view
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: west perform performance in Eric post at the reunion where
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: his co stars are thinking and like you're gaslighting all
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: of us and you are You're not being authentic.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's not right. Like West wants to be
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: well liked by the audience. He wants to be well received.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: So his whole move since coming into Summer House has
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: been that, Like he's a very clear example of someone
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: who wants to be famous. Now, anybody on reality TV,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: they all want to be famous, but he's someone who
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: comes in with like a very clear agenda and like
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: he wants to be famous by any means necessary, Like
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: them saying, I think it was Sierra saying, like, nobody
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: knows you, like nobody knows the type of person you are,
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: because like you just kind of he's a chameleon. So
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: whatever he thinks the audience wants him to be like whoever,
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: he thinks the audience wants him to be close with,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: whoever's gonna get a favorable edit, right, or be like
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: received well by the audience. That's who he wants to
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: clozy up with. And so this is like kind of
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: on brand for him at reunions, right, Like he gets
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: yelled at by somebody, Sierra, Usually he stumbles over his
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: words and he kind of doesn't really give anything. Actually,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: now that I'm thinking about it, he might be saying
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: a little more this reunion than he can usually muster,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: because he's usually just a bumbling, fucking idiot during the reunions.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Oh damn, yeah, yeah, move.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: So how are you a journalist? And you can't even
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: string together two sentences? He's a journalist, allegedly a sports journalist. Oh,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: a sports journal.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Shade.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: He said, that doesn't count. Actually, that's not real journalism.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: It's not it's not what we do. Okay, those of
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: us who are graduates from the Portia Williams School of Journalism.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: It's not what we do, but it is. You know,
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: it's in our family, it's in our world.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I love Steven day Smith. Shout out to Stupi Dy Smith.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: I do want to get into kJ his story of
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: his mental health, his love for Mia and Sierra was
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: so sweet and just beautiful. Again, I'm watching the show
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: for the first time, hearing him talk about having anxiety
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: and how in the fall he went through some heavy,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: some heavy stuff mentally where he self harmed self harmed himself,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: and how Mia and Sierra were there almost every day
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: while he was in the hospital. Then he had to
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: go to recovery for a few months where he was
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: diagnosed with b p D, which is bipolar disorder. Correct. Okay,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: I again never watched the show. I thought that moment
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: was like beautiful in the sense of his honesty about
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: dealing with mental health, and he just seems like a
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: really nice guy.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: He's he's so sweet. It's this is his first season,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: so like all of us are getting to know him. Yep,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: all of us are getting to know him for the
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: first time. Amita is also his first season. So Mia,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: kJ and Sierra. They formed this like trio, which was
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: so cute to watch. It's actually been like really fun
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: because they kind of like adopted each other as like
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: kind of brother sister immediately when the two when MEA
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: and kJ came into the house. And so yeah, it's
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: been really cool to see that they have maintained that friendship.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: And he does seem like a sweet person. When I
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: watched that scene, I was like, it is great that
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: he is able to talk about this, but it did
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: have me questioning or continuing to question just like the
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: ethics of reality TV and like when when is it exploitation? Right?
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Like he is he coming back in the summer right,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Like if he's coming back for another season of Summer House,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: what does that look like? Knowing that he so recently
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: had an episode like this. And I'm not saying people
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: who suffer from any mental illness shouldn't be on reality TV,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: it's like, how is that being handled on the back end?
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: And like, I'm sure you could probably speak to that
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: a lot better, but it does make me think about that,
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: like there's a another layer of vulnerability in an already
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: really vulnerable situation with being a reality TV.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, and I agree with that. I think that's the
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: reason why Bravo did a great job with having And
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: again I don't know this to be a fact, but
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: it's pretty obvious that Kim Richards from Beverly Hills Housewives,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: when we kind of saw some behavior that looked concerning,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: we know that she has dealt with addiction. We've known that,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: and it appeared that that was still continuous and as
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: iconic as a housewife that she was. You do have
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: to make a choice where it's sort of like, Okay,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: something has to give, because if this machine is feeling
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: your addiction, then we have to put a stop to this.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: And I think I'm assuming that's what happened there, And
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: I think when it comes to kJ you are onto
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: something to where listen dealing with his anxiety and BPD
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: to the point where he was self harming himself. I
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: do think there has to be a conversation, especially with
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: him and and other parties in ball medical professionals, to
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: where is this vehicle part of the reason why this
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: behavior self harming yourself is happening. And I think only
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: obviously the psychiatrist and psychologists and the team would know that.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: But you're right and I shared this too and Bell
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Collective Jackson. Marie Monroe's mother was filming with us, and
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: long story short, she had a crack addiction, and once
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: we saw that, unfortunately right it was still continuing, we
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: seized production and then I made the call, like, we're
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: not filming with her anymore because at some point it's
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: like it feels like we're exploiting her and that's not
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: that's not like nice to see especially and I'll go here,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: especially a black person on television to see them in
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: that state. So I don't want to perpetuate that at all.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: So I see production on that one. But yeah, I
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: agree with you, and I think kJ and his medical
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: professionals they wouldn't know what's best for him. I do
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: hope that they when I say they meeting him and
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: his medical professional team, that they're able to say we
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: professionally think he should or shouldn't do it, and whatever
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: the result is.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree with you, because it is reality TV, right,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: so it's like, yes, we do need to if that's
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: a part of your reality, we should understand it. But yeah,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: there is there's a tightrope and there there's a line there. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: I'm glad he shared it. I'm glad he shared it.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and again if this is fueling the dangerous behavior
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: then stopped. Similar for Jacks in the Valley, it was like, yeah,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: you guys to go bro, you know because because from
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: my understanding, when he wasn't filming, I think he had
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: like a two to three year breaks since he got
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: fired from Abanda Pum Rules and then he got on
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: the Valley two to three years later from my understanding
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: and rang Jews Timmy if I'm wrong, he didn't appear
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: at least we were aware of any addiction issues. And
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: then once the show happened, it was.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Like he's still yeah, because that's that's.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's what it could be a trigger,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: It could be a trigger. Yeah, So no, my heart
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: goes off the kJ But I I really really loved
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: that that particular segment. Moving back on to be Me,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: you know, the Sierra West and Amanda of it all.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: In this moment, Sierra talks about her her grandparents home.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she brought it in North Carolina.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and how Mia was saying to her, like you
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: should be proud of this, and you know you doing
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: this purchase is great, and how they all feel like
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Sierra down plays her success. Yeah, so you watching the show,
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: do you feel like that's a characteristic that she does hold.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: I often question if Sierra has low self esteem, like
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: I often wonder if she struggles with like her self image,
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: because we see her on the outside and she's so beautiful,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: she's really funny, but she oftentimes doesn't move like she
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: believes that. And I think that's most evident when we
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: see her with men, because we've seen her in there's
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: a situation with this guy Austin from Southern Charm that
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: like did not work. He's white, Okay, he's white, and
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: then she was brought into the show with Luke, also white.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Does I don't know.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: I've never asked her, We've never had a conversation about.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry on the cue, honey, Okay, I don't think.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: I don't think she would come on. I made a
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: video that I don't think she would like. And so
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: the power, I'm not hurting for it. I would love it,
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: but it's not going to end my world. But if
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: you're watching, girl would love to have you on. And honestly,
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: you can confront me about what I said because I
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: can take it. But yeah, I often I often wonder
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: that because you know, she has some issues with her father,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: which she talks about very openly, and like the dynamic
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: within her immediate family. So yeah, I often wonder if
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: she struggles with low self esteem because even I don't
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: know if you peep that when she walked out onto
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: the stage for the reunion, like everybody kind of walked out,
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: and she came out last. She didn't even do like
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: a bad bitch saunter out. She kind of like a
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: little bit a little bit. It gave me a little
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: bit and at last keating, I ain't gonna lie to
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: ya just a little bit. It was better. It was
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: an upgraded version of that, but it was like, girl,
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: you're the You're the girl right now. You are the
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: girl of this show. The way I would have been,
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: like I need to actually be carried out. Give me
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: a cherry, a cherry yacht. I will not come off
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: my cherry.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Yes forriyaes at you, darling.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: John is from Maria.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Hank Yes, yes, but you know what I mean. It's
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: like even that, it was like she was kind of
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: like walking out and like, oh, I gotta get this
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: over with and I'm just like, girl, you are really
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: a bad bitch, and I need you to start like
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: acting like well and understand that.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: She needs to go to the school, not the not
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: the School of Journalists held by Porsche Williams. She needs
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: to go to the School of.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: Confidence because you need you need that, Porsia Willilmstrup, bitch.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: You need to go to the Portie Williams Finishing School
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: for Girls, Portia Williams Finishing School, Portia Williams School, School
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: of Thatlandia Bad Bitchery. Those are the classes you'll take
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: bad Bitchery one on one, flirting one on one because
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Porsche is a master flirt that. Seeing what her and Sway,
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm in love with you, Porsche. Oh.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: I finally unblocked Sway and was like, I like you,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: you know, like I was turned off by like you.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Well you know, she's still my woman, So yeah, I did.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: I want to see that ship this way. It's funny,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: as she commented when I interview Portscha and Porsche posted
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: our interview. She added me, can you block me down?
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: I said, oh fine, I so sorry.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: It's always hard to get your bitch taken from you.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: And I say bitch with.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Love, with with all the love. But yes, I like
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: see Era. First of all, she does remind me of
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: of one of those people where you see something in
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: them that they don't see themselves. And I definitely like
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: the baby. She whoa. She's beautiful like shit.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: Could like crazy, beautiful, traffic stopping beautiful, does not need
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: to fuck with any Bravo liberty, any Bravo man. She
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: does not need to be with any of them. She
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: could have somebody in a bigger league. But I don't
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: know if she understands that about herself. But also because somebody,
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: somebody checked me in the video that I made about
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: Sierra and they were like, well, Sierra is only thirty,
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: so like you have to give her some grace, And
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: it was like, you know what, I often forget how
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: young these people are.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, she's that young.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: She's thirty years old. She's thirty years old, so like imagine,
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what it's like to be
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: thirty because I'm twenty one.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: So I so you are West in terms of turns up,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: the gaslighting that you're doing for the range jobs and.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: The lying and the words of a mina eyelid. I
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: want to present line. Yes I did. I just lied
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: to you, guys. I was. I was twenty one, many
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: many many moons ago. Yeah, the era is only thirty
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: years old. So like, once you think about that, like
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: so many things make sense. And my hope for her
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: as she enters into her thirties is that all the
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: uncertainty that you have when you're in your twenties about yourself,
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: about your life, Like I hope she's able to look
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: at herself differently and be like, I don't have to
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: put up with any of this shit. I don't have
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: to put up with these mid ass dudes, like mid
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: ass friends, just like Blossom, you know, like most women
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: in their thirty two it's a great decade.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: See her give it a brother, Like, I don't know
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: your your dating.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: History now now I think people should. I think people
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: should date who they want to date.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: I don't say she should. I said get with. I
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: just say I say only exclusively, I say get with.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: So that gave me like, go on the date again.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know her dating history. As an openly gay man,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: I clearly believe day who you want to date. However,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: it would be you know, silly of me not to
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: represent the brothers, not.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: To encourage black loves.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Hey, you know, listen, I'm a probab. I'm a probably
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: the one shout out to Gregrengel birth ten kids at
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: du Prim, Michigan. Thank you from seventy two to eighty five. No,
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: from seventy two to eighty eight. Wow, kids of a
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: sixteen year span. So I do believe there's a good
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: black man off for you. Tam Tucker is single now.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Hell, and that's that's I don't know the man. I
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: don't know that man. But what did I just say?
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: No man in the Bravo verse, spear.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: What black man is single.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: That that you will actually pair her with? About Michael B.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Jordan's maybe like there there were now they have never
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: been substantiated because I think they both. I think they
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: both have preferences that are not each other, if you
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: get my drifts. But I don't want to start any rumors.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: I honestly don't want.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: I'm just repeating what the streets say. I have no
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: friend Lori Harvey, beautiful beautiful lady. Yeah, so I'm I
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be mad at that.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: I actually love that.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be mad at that. I'm either way, whatever, man,
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: you get a man with means, resources, finances, homes, somebody
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: that can upgrade your life, like you need somebody to
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: upgrade your life, not somebody like West who looks like
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: he sleeps on the floor in a front house. He
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: sleeps on like the pissy newspapers on the.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Flo of the house.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: That's what he looks like. Anything would be an upgrade
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: after that.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: So Rade Jaws, let Jazz and I know what good
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: old black man I've listen for you for your for
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: your storyline next season. I want to see Sierra with
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: a good old black man, and Michael B. Jordan is
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: definitely number one on the list. So Jazz, that was
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: a good one. But rain jobs, let us know in
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: the comments who what black man should Sierra date? Okay,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: try something new if you haven't already. So one thing
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: we did learn towards the end of the reunion was
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: this sort of tale about Sierra towards the end of
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: the summer softening up some more. You know, when it
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: came to West, and you know, she was completely dumb
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: with him at one point, and she started to give
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: him a chance. They showed up making out in the backyard.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: West said it was ear stuff, and I kept rewinding it,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: like what what ear.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: I prayed to God she was not looking at his
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: ears because I know they were tart. I know those
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: ears were tired and chalk full of wax and just dirty.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: And it's a lot of film. I'm sure there's a
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: lot of film right behind his ear. No. I hope
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: she wasn't looking on that. Those ear lobes, those hairy
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: ear lobes. Don't know what ear stuff is. I'm not.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: I'm a good Christian woman. I've never heard of no
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: ear stuff.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: I don't lick ears, and I'm you know I do.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know, you're not listen, everyone knows when it
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: comes to me. Hey, you know it's energy first.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ears have been licked in my my day. But
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: I don't. I won't call it ear stuff. I'm not right,
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Like when you say ear stuff, I'm like, my mind
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: goes somewhere that I don't think it should go. Oh
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Lord Jesus, yeah, exactly right, exactly there. Yeah.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: So I was like, I don't think that's that's not kosher.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: So I don't know now, and that's some mullet type ship.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: So the thing that we also learned as if Amanda,
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: they like, were you aware of this? And she said
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: she was not aware that they were canutulating. And I
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: think that's when I realized, like, yeah, you're being played.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: And that's the moment when everybody started to attack West
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: and accuse him of having a revenge storyline.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: To get revenge against Sierra. Yes, that I don't see that.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, explain to me as a season one watcher why
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: you don't subscribe to that notion.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: I just don't think he cares that much, honestly, Like,
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: and I know it sounds very harsh, but I think
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: that I think that's that's doing way too much. Like
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: I think Wes is just selfish and like out for
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: self and like we said, like Amanda was vulnerable. He
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: thought like she was going to get a favorable edit
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: and be well received by the audience, so he wanted
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: to slide in there. I think it just kind of
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: turned and into something romantic because he was like fake
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: being a good friend to her, right and then like
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: I said, they're in it now, so they just have
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: to stay in it because they've been caught. I don't
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: think that on his end, it has anything to do
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: with Sierra. Now if it has, if Amanda is trying
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: to do some weird shit towards Sierra, you have a
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: better case and like a better shot at me believing that.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: But I don't think West cares that much about Sierra
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: period to even try to get revenge because what is
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: what is? Why does he need revenge?
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: You know what that is? And again you know the
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: show as somebody that has common sense, I agree with
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: you off the notion of when you are getting revenge
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: with somebody, you are a scorned lover. Right, revenge means
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: that this person you were in love with, let's relationship wise,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: when you're getting revenge on X, that means your ex
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: did something so bad to you you want to ruin them.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: And based on what I've learned from the history of
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: the show, not only from you, from ridd It, from threads,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: from watching some clips, it appears that Wes was a
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: fuck boy and that he I never took it that
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: he was madly in love with Sierra, or that Sierra
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: did something to break his heart. You know what I mean. Yeah,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: So the idea in rain Jobs listened to get revenge
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: on somebody, you want to hurt them because they hurt you.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: And I just don't think Sierra hurt him.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: She didn't hurt him. I think the most she did
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: was like not talk to him for two years, but
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: like she ended up coming back around to like talking
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: to him and being friends with him. So I just
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: feel like there's no need for him to get any revenge.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: He doesn't need to get revenge, and so yeah, I
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: just don't see that. So I'm not buying that theory
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: at all.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: Makes sense to me. Now. The theory that I have
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: to ask you about to people to let you go
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: is Lindsey is inviscerrating, you know West. But the moment
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: that I felt was so good. Sierra calls Amanda Week
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: your week woman. He needs to be with somebody pretty
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: much that he can control. Kyle said, Okay, that's harsh.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: Sierra class back, saying she's your wife, she's not my wife.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: My job.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: I will tell you. She said she's gonna be mute,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: She's going to be that weak figure that he needs
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: and he can be the star in that relationship. And
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: it's true. It was all facts, and yeah, Kyle. Kyle
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: was like, that was kind of harsh, but Kyle was
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: telling her it was.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Hard that was kind of harsh.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: Tie way harsh, Tie sorry, rays ahead, Yeah, but Kyle's yeah,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: He's like, that's kind of well, she's she's your wife,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: she's not my wife. Like, yeah, like fuck it, I
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: am harsh on her. I'm gonna say exactly what I
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: want to say, and you don't get to tell me
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: that it's harsh. But Kyle, like I've seen people saying
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: like he was ton policing Tierra. That's still Kyle's wife
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, y'all. And Kyle really
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: didn't seem like he wanted to get out of that marriage,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: like it was great, it was toxic, but he didn't
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: really seem like he wanted that marriage to end. So
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: I think it's unrealistic to ask him to not want
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: to like step in to defend his legal wife, and
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: to be he's doing more defense defending of Amanda than
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: West was in that one moment. He defended Amanda more
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: than West did in this entire first part of this reunion.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: So I think Kyle wasn't his right to say something.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: I think Sierra was in her right to be like, well, shit,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: that's your wife. Then it might have been harsh for you.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: To hear, but I still said it and I still
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: meant it. So we're at an impasse now, but neither
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: of them were wrong in that situation.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: My last question for you is this, do you think,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: as we talk about mental health and exploiting situations and
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: all that stuff, do you think at a certain point,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: like let's get all this out of the reunion, like
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: Amanda in the West are being confronted and rightfully so
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: and all those things, do you think after this reunion
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens in parts two and three,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: that Amanda and West and maybe Amanda should take a
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: break because the attacks that they're going to get doesn't
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: seem to it's not gonna stop anytime soon.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: Right right, I would say she should take a little
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: bit of a break, but she can't. She's on another show.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: She's on in the City, which like just started, so right, Yeah,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: she's on another show, and I'm sure she wants to
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: do stuff to like promote that and get people to
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: watch that. So in most cases, I would say, yeah,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: probably even go dark a little bit on social media
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: for a couple of weeks her and West, But you
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: never know, like some people like stuff like this. I know,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: there's been a lot of worry about her mental health,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: but I think Amanda also is a woman who likes
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: attention and for what it's worth. While a big part
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: of the fandom is against her, there's also a good
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: amount of people who like see it for her and
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: are still rocking. Yeah, yes, yeah, and the same with
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: Wes too. Like it's it's the people who just don't
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: see it for Sierra, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: So it's like besides Jim Fessler who wanted to West,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: besides her.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, yep, there's there's still there's Amanda defenders out there,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: so you know, I think she's gonna lean on those people.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: But before we go, can I say one thing that
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: we missed from this part of the.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna ask you the same thing.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Bailey and Ben, I just people are people were
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: saying that Bailey ate Ben up and no she didn't,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: Actually she didn't. It was actually really late and you
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: could tell that she's out all of her talking points
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: from the streets of TikTok, Instagram, threads, Reddit. She came
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: in with the right, very rehearsed lines for Ben, and like,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: my thing is, she's so mad at Ben because Ben
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: didn't like her. Like, that's what it boils down to.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: She liked Ben. She had a crush on Ben from
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: day one. She tried to like say some awkward joke
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: about Ben wanting an f Amanda. He he they left
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: the dinner table, he went to the room and he
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: was like, hey, you've you've made this joke like twice.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: The first time, I didn't clock it. This time, I'm
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: going to say something because we're not gonna do this.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: But it was very calm, and all the girls are like,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: he was yelling at her, and I'm like, that was
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: not yelling. That was that was approaching someone having an
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: uncomfortable situation, but it wasn't yelling. And so she's at
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: the reunion calling him a jackass, saying he likes to
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: reprimand women. And I'm like, you didn't think about that
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: when you wanted to lick his asshole. You weren't thinking
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: that he wanted to. I'm just joking. It was a
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: full circle joke. I couldn't let it pass. I couldn't
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: have passed. But she liked Ben, she liked being bending
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: like her back. And now that's where the issue is
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: and So for everybody saying that Bailey ate been up
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: and she read him, I say, learn what a fucking
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: read is because that was an Negral. That wasn't Negral.
• 1:07:42
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• 1:08:03
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