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INTERVIEW: Joyner Lucas Talks New Album, DMX' Influence, Relationship With Eminem, Will Smith +More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody's Steve, j Envy, Jesse, Larry Show, I mean the
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  Speaker 3: guy we are the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: We got a special guest in.
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  Speaker 3: The buildings and out right now. Not now I'm busy,
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  Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen joining Lucas.
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  Speaker 1: How you feeling I'm good man, You good?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm good.
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  Speaker 1: How y'all feeling good?
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  Speaker 2: Products going on in your life? The girls?
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  Speaker 4: So that's so good.
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  Speaker 2: Not now I'm busy, man, tell me about that album title.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, it's just not now I'm busy. It's really
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  Speaker 5: you know, the space that you know, I've been in
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  Speaker 5: my life for the last couple of years, you know,
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  Speaker 5: just really not having you know, really not having time,
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  Speaker 5: you know, for a lot of things that are even important.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean. So just trying to balance everything.
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  Speaker 5: And there's also a double message if you listen to
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  Speaker 5: the album as well, about you know me, you know,
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  Speaker 5: killing my own self to become the new, the new
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  Speaker 5: you know version of myself that I am today.
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  Speaker 6: Now let's talk that title though, when a lot of
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  Speaker 6: people say staying busy is a response to unresolved trauma,
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  Speaker 6: So are you really busy, Are you trying to avoid something?
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  Speaker 5: I think that's I think I think that sounds pretty accurate,
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  Speaker 5: to be honest with you, I think it's a little
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  Speaker 5: bit of both as far as like really being busy
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  Speaker 5: for sure, and then you know, a response to unresolved
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  Speaker 5: trauma for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Now your albums, your videos and the stuff that you
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  Speaker 3: put out, you think about it before you put it out, right,
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  Speaker 3: you're just not doing a record. It's like it's almost
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  Speaker 3: like the music you're putting out is intentional to to help.
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  Speaker 2: Where does that come from? Because you know, watching.
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  Speaker 3: Your videos, it's like it's the movies. They're self movies,
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  Speaker 3: but they always have a message like it's meaningful.
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  Speaker 5: I think, honestly, I think it's beyond me. I think that,
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  Speaker 5: you know, when I create these records, I think that
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  Speaker 5: every when I'm writing it, I feel like I'm channeling
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  Speaker 5: like something greater than me, a higher power or something
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  Speaker 5: that's like helping me write these records for me to
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  Speaker 5: be able to tap into, you know, to talk about
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  Speaker 5: some of these things that I talk about, you know,
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  Speaker 5: like with the record I just released Best for Me,
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  Speaker 5: you know, general shout out to my brother Jelly Ro.
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  Speaker 5: I've never been addicted to, you know, drugs, but somehow
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  Speaker 5: I was able to write from a perspective of that
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  Speaker 5: as if I was, you know what I'm saying, And
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  Speaker 5: same thing with you know, I'm not racist, you know,
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  Speaker 5: same thing with I'm sorry or any of the other
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  Speaker 5: records that touch on suicide or you know, touching on
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  Speaker 5: other things that I'm channeling something greater than me that's
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  Speaker 5: helping me create these records. I don't know how what,
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  Speaker 5: but I know that I'm getting some type of help
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  Speaker 5: from the higher power that's helping me create these records
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  Speaker 5: and to channel those actual emotions.
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  Speaker 4: You know, on the concepts of some of those records.
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  Speaker 7: And you're also helping other people too, like because if
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  Speaker 7: you're able to speak to something that you've never even experienced,
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  Speaker 7: and you feel like you're like you're kind of being
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  Speaker 7: used as a you know, a messenger for things, like
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  Speaker 7: you actually are hailing people as well. And it's been
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  Speaker 7: like a four year gap since ADHD you know you
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  Speaker 7: dropped that twenty twenty. Is that why it was such
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  Speaker 7: a gap, because you were because this is not now
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  Speaker 7: I'm busy, But what what did the gap come from?
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  Speaker 8: You going through certain things?
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  Speaker 2: What I think.
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  Speaker 5: In between that, you know, really finding myself because this
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  Speaker 5: is the first time that I've ever been able to
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  Speaker 5: kind of relax and not be put in survival mode,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So it's like, this is
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  Speaker 5: the first time I've ever not you know, the first
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  Speaker 5: time I haven't been in survival mode, you know, financially
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  Speaker 5: me a financial you know, survival mode where I'm actually
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  Speaker 5: you know, able to try to find myself, you know,
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  Speaker 5: because up until then, I didn't really know who I
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  Speaker 5: was as a person, because it's like I was always
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  Speaker 5: sidetracked by survival mode, you know what I'm saying. And
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  Speaker 5: it's like, once I had the financial stresses tookn off
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  Speaker 5: me and I was able to take a step back
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  Speaker 5: and get to kind of, you know, know myself. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I started really going through stuff, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 5: and I started to learn more about me and you know,
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  Speaker 5: just as a person, you know what I'm saying, and
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  Speaker 5: a lot of those things kind of shape me into
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  Speaker 5: who I am today.
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  Speaker 2: Pause I was gonna was that a pause?
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  Speaker 6: I didn't catch the pause that one, and I got
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  Speaker 6: gay to go back and go back and.
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  Speaker 2: Shape them.
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  Speaker 3: But deeper, I was gonna ask, you know, listening to
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  Speaker 3: your project and over the years and watching your videos, right,
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  Speaker 3: mm hmmm, and lyrically you get busy, dead nice, right,
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  Speaker 3: whether it's a song that's helping people, are you just
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  Speaker 3: on some street ship. I started thinking of it day.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, why would we have those conversations, right, and
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  Speaker 3: we talk about the j Coles, and we talk about
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  Speaker 3: the Kendricks, and we talk about the Drakes. Why don't
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  Speaker 3: they ever talk about joining Lucas in those same conversations Because.
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  Speaker 2: You get busy and lyrically you're a problem.
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  Speaker 3: And I think everybody would say that, But when we
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  Speaker 3: have those discussions and conversations, they don't necessarily mention, So
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  Speaker 3: it's up.
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  Speaker 5: But sort of interesting thing about that is there's two
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  Speaker 5: parts of that question. Number One, I think that any
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  Speaker 5: of those artists that you name got like ten years
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  Speaker 5: on me. Drake was in the game ten years before
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  Speaker 5: I came in the game. Kendrick was gotten a game
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  Speaker 5: to like at least seven eight years before I got
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  Speaker 5: in the game. J Cole's been in the game about
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  Speaker 5: seven eight years, but he came in when Kendick came
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  Speaker 5: in post And.
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  Speaker 4: That's number one. Number two.
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  Speaker 5: I am in those conversations when you're talking to people
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  Speaker 5: like you know, Marshall, he's talking to Eminem. You know,
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  Speaker 5: he always mentions me. You know, he puts me right
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  Speaker 5: next to them. He always talks about you know what
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying. Even in the records, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: It'll be like, you know his favorite artist is you know,
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  Speaker 5: sometimes he even thought my name first. You know what
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying, Joiner, Cole Kendrick, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: And he has you know he it definitely acknowledges that,
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  Speaker 5: and and you know he's in my mind, you know,
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  Speaker 5: he's considered you know, one of the greatest, if not
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  Speaker 5: the greatest. So if I'm getting if that guy is
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  Speaker 5: saying those things, and you know, then I guess that
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  Speaker 5: means that stand for some right mean some. So I
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  Speaker 5: don't really Apart from that, I don't really care. Like
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  Speaker 5: if I mentioned with you know, those guys, I don't
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  Speaker 5: think I have enough time in yet they have more
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  Speaker 5: time than I do, you know what I'm saying. So
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  Speaker 5: I haven't even had the time that they have to
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  Speaker 5: That's all.
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  Speaker 6: You know, you talked about, you know, killing yourself on
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  Speaker 6: the album what is the significance of you killing the
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  Speaker 6: old version of yourself at the end of the album.
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  Speaker 5: Well, the significance of it is, you know, the old
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  Speaker 5: I like to say that a lot of people, a
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  Speaker 5: lot of people that have a revelation, you know, and
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  Speaker 5: they tend to grow pause.
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  Speaker 4: You know. I would say.
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  Speaker 5: That they're enlightened, you know, by their experiences of life,
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  Speaker 5: and that causes them to become a different person in
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  Speaker 5: a positive way, right. And I would say that through
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  Speaker 5: my experiences and the traumas and things that I've been through,
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  Speaker 5: actually created the reverse effect and made it so that
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  Speaker 5: I'm growing in more of a negative way, right, not
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  Speaker 5: even by choices, Like because of the traumas and things
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  Speaker 5: that I've been through, I'm no longer you know, susceptible
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  Speaker 5: to being a nice guy.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm no longer bubbly, I'm no longer you know.
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  Speaker 5: As positive as I used to be, you know what
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying. So it's like, you know, due to my traumas,
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  Speaker 5: I've grown into you know, a different version of myself that.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe a trauma response in which Charlemagne said, you feel me?
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  Speaker 5: So I had to kill off, you know, in order
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  Speaker 5: for me to to grow in my own ways. Pause,
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  Speaker 5: I had to kill off that version of myself because
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  Speaker 5: that version of myself got used, you know, that version
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  Speaker 5: of myself people took advantage of.
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  Speaker 4: You feel me.
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  Speaker 5: So it's like, you know, the new person that I
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  Speaker 5: am today is no longer susceptible to those things, you
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  Speaker 5: know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Did you have to write that figuratively so you didn't
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  Speaker 2: do that literally?
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  Speaker 6: Like did you have to write about feeling yourself off
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  Speaker 6: so you didn't actually do it?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 5: No, I ain't never you feel me. I ain't never
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  Speaker 5: really ever been suicidal, you know what I mean? I
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  Speaker 5: never been suicidal. But I just knew when I started,
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  Speaker 5: when I had took the time between albums, and you know,
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  Speaker 5: I'm just going through real life shit as you heard
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  Speaker 5: in records like Broski, you know, records like cut You Off,
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  Speaker 5: you know with NBA. You know, as I'm going through
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  Speaker 5: real life ship and I'm really starting to learn who
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  Speaker 5: I am, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: And you know I knew that I had to. I
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  Speaker 4: had to get rid of the old me.
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  Speaker 8: Why didn't we get the experimental album?
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  Speaker 5: So we didn't get the experimental album because it wasn't
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  Speaker 5: something that I felt like I wanted to stand behind
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  Speaker 5: pause Right, it was like.
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  Speaker 2: Your pauses has been a little off. That one was.
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  Speaker 8: Now as fas as just make you think, like, man,
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  Speaker 8: what do you say? But you know.
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  Speaker 1: That excuse me?
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  Speaker 5: I think the Experimental album for me, I felt like
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  Speaker 5: was a little bit too left field even for me. Right,
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  Speaker 5: it was like I found myself, like, you know, going
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  Speaker 5: back into like I started going back into creating records
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  Speaker 5: that I felt like didn't really represent to where I
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  Speaker 5: wanted to be and who I am now. You know,
• 10:06
  Speaker 5: I dropped the record Blackout with Future. You know what
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying in that record, You know, I'm talking about
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  Speaker 5: some shit that I used to talk about before I
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  Speaker 5: got on, which is like, you know, if I didn't
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  Speaker 5: make it, then I would be you know, selling the
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  Speaker 5: you know, kilos and shit. You know, but these are
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  Speaker 5: things that I was rapping about before I even got on.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like, if I didn't break
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  Speaker 5: into the music industry, then I was gonna move from
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  Speaker 5: selling eight balls to kilos, you know what I'm saying. Like,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm in a place now where it's like, why
• 10:35
  Speaker 5: the fuck you even talking about that shit.
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  Speaker 4: You already where you.
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  Speaker 5: Need to be, you feel me, So it's like, why
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  Speaker 5: are you going back to that shit? And it's like,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and it's like, I think I did it
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  Speaker 5: on some like culture shit.
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  Speaker 4: You feel me.
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  Speaker 5: And it's like, I'm not about to jump on a
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  Speaker 5: record with future and flex get on my lyrical shit,
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  Speaker 5: and you know what I mean, that shit kind of
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  Speaker 5: why I to do so it's like, let me just
• 10:54
  Speaker 5: dumb my shit down. And it's like, you know, and
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  Speaker 5: I decided to do that, but also knew that before
• 11:00
  Speaker 5: I released the record, or when I was doing the
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  Speaker 5: video and I'm sitting there and I got all this
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  Speaker 5: bread and YadA, YadA, YadA. You know, I'm just like, damn,
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  Speaker 5: I feel like this don't feel like the type of
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  Speaker 5: shit I want to be on right now. But I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: fucking I'm gonna do it, you know what I'm saying
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  Speaker 5: for the culture And I did it. And when I
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  Speaker 5: put it out, it was the response that I got
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  Speaker 5: from it was exactly how I was feeling, you know
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  Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: But at the same like people telling you, like why
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  Speaker 2: you on this?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, But at the same time, right, but a lot
• 11:26
  Speaker 5: of people don't know me though, you feel me, Like
• 11:28
  Speaker 5: they look at the storytelling shit and they just assume like,
• 11:31
  Speaker 5: oh this, you know, he not about that or he did.
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  Speaker 5: Like niggas don't know like where I come from, you
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  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. They don't know joining before Joda
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  Speaker 5: got on, you know what i mean. So a lot
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  Speaker 5: of niggas don't know that type of shit. But these
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  Speaker 5: are records that I've done, records like that before, you
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  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. And it's like I'm in a
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  Speaker 5: different place on my life now. So it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: when I had dropped it and I got that response,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, I'm just like, damn, like
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  Speaker 5: I already know, like almost the whole album was shit
• 12:01
  Speaker 5: like that. I got all these features from all these
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  Speaker 5: artists and shit that you know, I felt like was
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  Speaker 5: like culture shit of like what's in now, But it
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  Speaker 5: really wasn't really you know what I'm saying exactly the
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  Speaker 5: nigga that I you know what I mean. So it
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  Speaker 5: just didn't make sense. So it was like fuck that,
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  Speaker 5: I'm scrapping this shit, you know what I mean. So
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  Speaker 5: I made an executive decision to scrap that shit.
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  Speaker 2: You talked about Broski earlier and cut you off.
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  Speaker 6: And I always wondered, like when you had people do
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  Speaker 6: you dirty and those type of situations had it made
• 12:30
  Speaker 6: a challenge in to form like deep connections with people,
• 12:33
  Speaker 6: being that everybody might have their own yeah, hitting agendas.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 5: It started made me realize, like why niggas like Marshall
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  Speaker 5: move a certain way?
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  Speaker 1: You feel me because like with that niggas like getting
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: on the phone with him, it's.
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  Speaker 5: Like you you you could probably hop on the phone
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  Speaker 5: with Barack quicker than you can hop on the phone
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  Speaker 5: with Marshall. That nigga's calling you from a line with
• 12:55
  Speaker 5: his manager's assistant is calling you.
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  Speaker 4: From a one hundred number.
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  Speaker 5: And then it's just like elevated music and it's like,
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  Speaker 5: please hold Marshals coming to the phone.
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  Speaker 1: You can't have his number, nobody has his number.
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  Speaker 5: He's not accessible. You can't talk to him. It's like
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  Speaker 5: hopping on the phone with the President, right. And it's
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  Speaker 5: like I always wondered, like why do this nigga move
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  Speaker 5: like that. I had a conversation with him on the
• 13:17
  Speaker 5: shoot of A Lucky You and I'm just in his
• 13:21
  Speaker 5: trailer and I'm like, yeah, man, like anytime you want
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  Speaker 5: to talk, anytime you want to build, and like, you
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  Speaker 5: know whatever, you know, you can hit me, you know
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  Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Like we could talk and we could
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  Speaker 5: build on his music shit, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: He was like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And it's just like I could tell he was really
• 13:40
  Speaker 5: like real stand office, you know what I'm saying. And
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  Speaker 5: I would ask Roy's like, yo, why is he like that.
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  Speaker 5: He's like, man, that Nigga's just been through a lot
• 13:47
  Speaker 5: of shit. You don't really like, you know, he's very
• 13:50
  Speaker 5: close off from people, right, And I'm just like, damn,
• 13:53
  Speaker 5: and I never understood it, right. And it's just like
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  Speaker 5: when I started, you know, experiencing this shit that I
• 14:00
  Speaker 5: was experiencing.
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  Speaker 4: I got it instantly.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, this is why this motherfucking don't want to
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  Speaker 5: He don't want new friends, like he don't want you
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  Speaker 5: feel me.
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  Speaker 4: And it's like I get it one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 2: And he was the biggest star in the world at
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  Speaker 2: one point. So imagine he's still live.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, niggas gotta drop a fucking album and he's still
• 14:18
  Speaker 5: he can't just be outside. He's not the nigga that
• 14:22
  Speaker 5: could just be outside like that. You can't just walk
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  Speaker 5: the streets of fucking New York like you got you
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  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like it's the whole thing. He's
• 14:28
  Speaker 5: a he's a big deal, like to this day, you
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  Speaker 5: know what I mean. And it's like he moves like
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  Speaker 5: that for a reason. You know what I'm saying, He's
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  Speaker 5: not You could probably j Z be texting niggas and shit,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like some niggas don't know
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  Speaker 5: how to handle trauma and all that shit, you know
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  Speaker 5: what I'm saying. But I'm starting to get into the
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  Speaker 5: space now where it's like I'm starting to understand why
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: these indus street niggas move. When I came into the game,
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: like Yo, these niggas is weird, first thing I'd say,
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: like why the fuck these niggas A is so weird?
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  Speaker 1: But now I see why niggas is weird.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta have boundaries, boundaries.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: I was aske with your with your videos right art
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  Speaker 3: a lot of art. How long does it take to
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: prepare those videos?
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: Because I'm watching your videos and even the one with
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: Jelly Roll or Roll Timmy and the fact that it's
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: high budget. I mean, in one after you got a
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: tank in one video, but not only that, you got
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: the actors in the video knowing the lyrics before the
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: song came out. So that takes time, and it takes preparation.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: It's it's almost like it's like a real movie. So
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: what is the preparation for a joint of Lucas video?
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: So I'm creating a visuals before I'm creating the song.
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: Really right, So I'm I already had the videos and
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: the visuals in my head right before I that was
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: a pause.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: So I'm like videos in your head. I'm like, no,
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: it was a heavy breath.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: So I'm creating the visuals like mentally already, the script
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: is already written. Now I just gotta write the song.
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: I already see it. I see the house, I see
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: the guy. I know this is about da da da ya,
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, I just got to create the record.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: I gotta find the beat.
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: Now that I've found the beat, and then I'm writing,
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: and I'm meticulously trying to find the character in my
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: head of who's gonna play this role. And once I
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: lock in on that character, from the moment the song
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: is done, I'm now contacting a rapper, and the reason
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: why I'm choosing a rapper is because I know a
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: rapper is gonna memorize it really quick. I know that
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: it's not gonna look weird when their lip syncing it right.
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: So I'm choosing rappers specifically, or if you have any
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: type of you can be a singer, an R and
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: B singer, but if you know how to memorize some shit,
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: you know it makes sense. But I'm not going to
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: choose somebody that doesn't do music, you know what I mean.
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: So I send it out. I tell that person they
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: have a certain amount of time to learn it. You know,
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: nine times out of ten they're excited to do it,
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: so they learning it quick.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Roteini was excited to do it.
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: What's interesting about Broski is I never seen to this day,
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: I never seen one episode.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Of Power Really Wow to this day, never seen it.
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: And I stayed away from watching it on purpose because
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: I don't want to be influenced by a lot of
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: these shows. And then you start bleeding in through my
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: videos and it now niggas is like.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: Oh this shit look like that? You feel me?
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: Because I'm a creative, I try not to watch certain
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: things because I don't want to be influenced by it, right.
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: And I actually seen Roteine me in this movie called
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: For the Love of Money. It's an independent film with
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: him and Kerry Hilson. It's the first time I ever
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: seen Roteiny act and I was like, yo, I was like,
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: I like his character.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: I love his character, you know what I'm saying.
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: And at the same time, I was writing bros Ky
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: and it was just like I started to have his
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: his faith in my mind paused very I can't say
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: that I can't get him.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Niggas can't get day. So motherfucking.
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: I knew that I wanted him to play the role,
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: and I sent him the record, and you know, he
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: memorized it. We shot a video in like two weeks.
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: I edited direct everything myself, and then I was holding
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: onto that for a little bit because it was a
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: part of the album and I was still creating the
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: album in real time, and I wanted to drop it,
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: you know, while I was dropping.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Some of the other records.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: You know, that one was so hard because I think
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: everybody has been through that, like a friend that you've
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: helped and you felt like the friend looked at you differently.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: So it's it.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: It hit because it was like, damn.
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: You might be the only person in history who can
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: put out a song in a video that overshadows a
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: whole project.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, I appreciate it.
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: Like the strangest thing, like Roski will come out and
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: it's like that's what people want from joining you know,
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: best best for me will come out and they're like, oh,
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: that's what I want. But you know, you got a
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: whole album coming up, you know what I'm saying. You
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: do you ever think yourself I might have to do
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: a whole album of visuals?
• 19:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I I was gonna make turn bro Ski into
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: like a series, you know what I mean with rotey
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: and like really create a story out of it and
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: like go crazy with it. So I was entertaining that.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: For a little bit.
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I thought about it, about doing the whole
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: album serious thing or whatever, But I just I just
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: haven't done it yet.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:48
  Speaker 8: Well when you do, I mean I add sometimes yeah.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I got you, and I just I really just been
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: wanting to like with that an industry.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: I got you are like elevated music.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: I think that these music, I think these these these
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: music videos are very inspired by movies, not from specific movies,
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: I mean just the feel of it. Pauls right, it's
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: like it's very cinematic, and it's like I'm creating my
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: own movie within the visual, within the music. And I
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: think that's subconsciously me trying to I really, I really
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: uh wanted to get into movies, being in being doing movies,
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean, acting in movies. So that
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: was really subconscious, subconsciously me trying to bring that into
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: fruition so these actors can see this. So you know,
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: these directors can see these movies or these videos and
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: be like, yo, I gotta get him in a movie.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: I got to make a movie with.
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: Him, and YadA, YadA YadA, right, And that was what
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: I was trying to do. When it work, right, because
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: then I was able to get Mark in the joint,
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: and I was able to get these other actors and
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: Roe teem Me and YadA, YadA YadA, and then I
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: ended up actually right then, I ended up actually getting
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: in movies with them.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: But they called me to be Mark Wahlberg put me
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: in a movie my first movie ever. Shout out to
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: my brother Mark Wilber and then Will Smith had me
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: and Bad Boys for you know what I'm saying, which
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: is fired that's.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: About to drop.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: That's an exclusive.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I supposed to reveal that. I think I think
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: I revealed it, I posted it or whatever. You just
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: wasn't paying attention.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: You got a big role.
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: Nobody in that movie has a big role except Martin
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: it will, you know what I mean? Because of the
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: because of the direction they went in with the movie.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: Everybody that comes in the movie is it's a section
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: and then they're out and then it's just like onto
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: the next person that comes in the movie.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to see you act
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: as much as I want to see you create.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, you know what I mean.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: So I'm sure you got something in the works, like
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: your own personal.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I think that when you say create talking about music
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: or movie, TV show on.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Audio, TV show like how like uh.
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: Like fifty Child's Game? You know, Atlanta, What's Dave Dicky?
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: Little Dicky does Dave?
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've just seen ben Stable ships fire too.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: I like.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: I like that, but they got going on. But even that, right,
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: even the opportunity like that to do things like that,
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: I feel like I'm setting myself up for that when
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: I kind of create my own visuals, you know what
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: I mean.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on Bobby's murder?
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: You know, speaking of people giving you propers, he said that
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: you were the master P of this generation and he
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: questioned why more people don't talk about you making a quarter.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Million dollars a month independently? M what do you think
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: about that?
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: I thought that was I thought that was fire. Like
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: you know, first of all, call me the master P
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: of the generation? Is it's fire? Because master P was
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: that's pe you know what I'm saying, Like, that's like
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: that dude is like the he's like the first one
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: of the first cats to really do this for real,
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: like you know what I mean, independently and like really
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: do it. So like him calling me that, it was
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: just like wow, you know, I didn't know he never
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: he never displayed that to me before. So him going on,
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: you know, saying that was like, wow, I didn't know
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: he felt that way, you know, But I think that
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: that's dope that he aspires to, you know, become independent
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: and you know, make his money. And you know, the
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: music industry has changed a lot, So you know, I
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: think that I thought it.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Was dope DMX is on the album How did you
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: get diverse.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: X?
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Break that down?
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: You an exit the studio?
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: How was that so?
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: So?
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: I didn't go for it to symbols on it too.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: I spent some time with X, went to we played
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: pool a few times. I got to pick his brain.
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: He gave me a lot of advice.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: I had real nigga conversations with Axious about like his life,
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: his upbringing, and I was able to ask him a
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: lot of personal questions just so I can understand him
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: because I kind of had a feeling at.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Some point that he was going to go before the time,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a million percent.
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: So I made it a point to ask him as
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: many questions as as I wanted to ask him.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: And yeah, he's a HOMEI bro.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: He'll hit me up at like that dude wild hit
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: me up at like text me at like one in
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: the morning, like yo, let's go out type ship.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, let's roll and we go hit
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: the you know, the Billard or something. We would just
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: go play pool type ship. But he was a very
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: interesting guy and he was a real one, you know.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: I don't think he was from him.
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: I don't think X was from him.
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: I think from another dimension. Yes, yeah, he's never met
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: somebody like DMX. Nothing about him was like a human.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: He's different, like nothing, He's different.
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: And then and I think, and one thing I loved
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: about X was that you know he was he was
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: he was had a very tough exteria, right, he was
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: very You never questioned his sexuality. He was a very
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: tough exteria, but on the inside, like he would pray
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: for you, you know what I'm saying. Like Hill, he
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: was very He was a very emotional guy to get
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: He's been through a lot of ship, you know what
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: I mean. And I when I had a conversation with him,
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: you know, one day, you know he had he was
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: pretty much I was explaining to him how how me
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: being signed to a label at this time, I was
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: just like felt defeated because I wasn't getting what I
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: needed to out of the situation. And we had a
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: real conversation in which he gave me some advice. And
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: right after we had that conversation, I wrote, I'm not racist. Wow,
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: changed my entire life. Right after we had that one
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: conversation and he said, start from the jarm board, come
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: up with some come up with something groundbreaking, force the
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: hand of the label, make them believe.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Wow, y'all been at a relationship or something.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when did he do the years ago?
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: Wow?
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: You have more than one ex verse?
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: I got another? Like, yeah, I got another ex verse too. Yeah.
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: You know you talked about collabing with Future and you
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: got a young Boy on this album. But then you said,
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: you feel like sometimes you gotta dumb your lyrics down
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: when you get on records with Future, So like when
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: you collab with somebody like a young boy, like like why,
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: like why if you got to turn your volume down?
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: It's not that, it's just I think sometimes I think
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: that I'm such a fan of a lot of different
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: types of music.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I love.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: Like, there's Future records that I love, you know what
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: I mean? He got some he got some bops, like
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: young Boy, Like, he got some bops. Maybe not all
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: of them. Don't you don't love all the Future's music.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: We don't love all the Jointings music. We don't love
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: all of anybody's fucking music. Right, But the point is
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: is I'm a fan of you know, a lot of
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: people wouldn't be surprised to know that. I listen to
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: a lot of different types of shit, and it's like
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: if I jump on the record with certain people, you know,
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: I'm not trying to go off like that. I want
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: to go into their world sometimes and I want to
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: like have fun with it and you know what I mean,
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: like play with it a little bit.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Pause pause.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: That one was a pause?
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: Someone?
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: When when rappers get like big, like you know, well,
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: so yeah you paused from me, All right, fine, but
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: when you know, when they make it to a certain
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: level of success, a lot of them have to move
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: out of their city.
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: How involved are you with your city?
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Or are you When you say.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: How involved are I what you mean by like.
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: Do you still live there? Like how often do you
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: go back?
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: I got like family there, you know what I'm saying,
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: So so i'd be around sometimes, but I'm very like cautious,
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like I don't just be
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: outside like that.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: But yeah, well, because of like I just situations you've
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: seen happen, like you know in rap, or just because
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: it's something that personally happened to you.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: Nah, ain't nothing really personally happened to me. Ain't nothing,
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: ain't nothing ever happened to me. The you know what
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: I'm saying. But you just gotta be ready, you feel me.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: So if I am outside, I'm out outside without a strap.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. If I'm outside, I'm out
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: outside like.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: Ready for whatever, because you just never know, you know
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: what I mean, when you're in a position now, I'm
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: in pause.
• 28:26
  Speaker 8: Positions. You know I got you.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: That was crazy, that a crazy one.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: I was with your family. You know, you have two kids,
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: and of course you have your sister here today. How
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: are you with your family and breaking down the business
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: and teaching them?
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: I don't I keep that separate.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: That's crazy, man, I keep the music. I don't.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: It's just that when I'm with family and family time
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: as family time, I.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: Don't want to.
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: I don't even like mixing business with family. And you know,
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: explaining business. It's like, you know when you say that.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Who asked that you?
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: You you rite the business? When you explain when you
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: said like breaking down the business, what you mean by that?
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: A little bit of everything? So especially with your kids,
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: letting him know where it comes from. How hard it
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: is because the route that you're taking is a route
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: that most people could never figure out doing independent on
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: your own. You're investing in.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: Your My son is about eight years old, so his
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: he karate you know, video games. Like he's not in
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: a place where he can even understand or comprehend that right,
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: And it's like, you know, I don't I try to
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: let him be a kid, you know what I mean,
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: and keep him away from I don't want him to
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: grow pause before his time, you know. So they're not
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: almost two year old, you know what I'm saying. But
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: when I'm with my family, his family time, it's like
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: I learned how to separate the two, you know stuff
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: I'm working on working and when I'm with my family,
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: I'm with my family, I'm not working and having my
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: face family and doing her that I got my little
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: sister here, you know what I mean, Because like it's
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: like my homie, you know what I'm saying. I want
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: her to come, you know, to experience all this because
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: she works. She's a you know, she's an RN, you
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So she worked hard in her fields.
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: She don't really get the time to like really be
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: around any of this shit. So it's like I'm proud
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: of her. So it's like when she got to you know,
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: you want to come out to the breakfast club, you
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: want to come out here and do this, do that?
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: She's like, hell yeah, I could take a little time
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: real quick and come do this, you know what I'm saying.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: So apart from that, my mama, she'll roll with me,
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. She loves going to concerts,
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: she loves doing shit like this. She loves you know,
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: where you go in New York. I'm going to New York.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: I'm going here. I'm going there, and I want to
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: take her so she can really experience the shit too.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: She went she was on a Bad Boys movie set.
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: I want her to really, you know what I'm saying,
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: like experience this shit with me, you know what I mean.
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: But when it comes to creating and it comes to
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: like that, I try to keep that shit like separate
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: when I'm with because I don't want to be like
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: recording and making music and then with my kids. And
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: then I got it like I don't want to feel
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: like they're not getting the time that they need for me.
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: So it's like I just separate time, you know what
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: I'm saying, what.
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: If I'm a cousin who wants to work in the
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: frozen yoga spot? Can I ask you about that?
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: I got my niece that she worked there, like ship,
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Now that's like on the outskirts.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, something you want to franchise?
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: I feel like I could.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, need that.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: I feel like I could.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: What made you want to do frozen yogurt?
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: Because I was I was always in the morning. I
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: stopped eating breakfast, I started drinking like protein shapes and
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: like ship like that. So I was always spending my
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: time at like this one spot. And I was like,
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: you know what, I'm about to just do my own ship,
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: my first break and mortar, you know what I'm saying,
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: Like my first business outside of the Tully, you know,
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: the music ship outside of that.
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: So I want to ask you about a line from
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: that Jelly Roll said, and best for me said, how
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: can you love someone and learn to let them go?
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: You think that's achievable from your experience?
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: That's my middle name. Mm hmm, that's my middle name.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: That's one of the biggest that's one of the that's
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: one of the things about myself that I recognize, as
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: you know, a part of myself that I hate but
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: I love at the same time that I'm able to
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: do shut that switch off, you know.
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: Are you ever unable to do that? And that's why
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: you what.
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: It's like that I became desensitized to pain, you know,
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: desensitized to hurt, you know. So it's like, in order
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: to not really feel it paused, you know, I I
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: learned how to create my my my own light switch
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: to where I could just shut the light off and
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: nobody's safe from that light switch, you know what I mean.
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: And it's just a it's a pretty fucked up thing
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: to have, you know what I'm saying, because.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: It's it's.
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: It's real difficult sometimes to you know, build real relationships
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: when you can do that, you know what I'm saying,
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: When you could just shut off a switch and then
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: just be like, you know, and nobody's safe from that.
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: I've had to do it to family, friends, girls, you know,
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: and it's like, if you if you experienced it at
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: the level that I've experienced it with some of the
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: closest people to you, nobody say.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: Nobody say.
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: I think some people think unconditional love requires the acceptance
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: of harmful behavior, and I agree with you.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: I don't agree with that though.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: I feel like.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: A lot of people think that just because you love
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: them means that you got to keep them around, but
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: you got to deal with bullshit that you don't want
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: to deal with. I feel like my mental health and
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: my peace of mind is the most important thing to
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: me above anything else, right, Like my sanity is the
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: most important thing to me. So if you keep, if
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: you bring in, if we clashing, there's an incompatibility there, right,
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: And it's like that has to be addressed or else
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: we're just gonna be incompatible.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: And it's like a lot of people think incompatibility just
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: is within relationships, but it's really within friendships, it's within workspaces,
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: just within a lot of different things. Right, It's like,
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: how compatible are you to me? And you know, and
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: it's like once I realize and once I see that
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: we're not compatible, that's when I got to go ahead
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: and flip that light switch off. And then you take
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: that like I never cared about you at all, But
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: that's not the truth. The truth is I still love you.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: We're just not compatible. You gotta go your way and
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: I gotta go my way, you know what I'm saying,
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: And it's a tough thing for me to even do
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: because it's like, damn, like I gotta I have to
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: do that again, you know what I'm saying. So it's
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: hard to have, like, it's hard, it's hard to have
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: real genuine relationships when that happens, you know what I me.
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: I'm saying. So, but then you're still protecting you thought.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: A couple more questions.
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: There was a there was a go for me of
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: a woman who was killed and you donated ten grand,
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: but then she ended up being.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: In your music video. Did you know that she was
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: in your video before you donated?
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I knew her.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: I know her personally. Oh okay, okay, yeah, I know
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: it personally. And it was just a sad situation, you know,
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: very sad, very sad situation.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: For the city. You know.
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: It's another reminder that you know, you be here one
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: day and tomorrow you'll be gone, you know. And it's
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: like what happened to that young woman and her daughter
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: was was horrific, you know. And it's like I felt
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: guilty because she was in the video and she in
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: the video, she was rapping in the car that she
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: died in the car, you know.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: So it's like it was just haunting and you go back
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: and watch it.
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: I'm still thinking about taking the video down just because
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: I just just you know what I mean, Like it's
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: just it's just so.
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: You know, it was one of them spooky coincidence. I mean,
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: like you can't hold yourself accountable.
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: Nah, I'm not holding myself accountable. It's really just like
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: it's just I don't know, it's a freaky thing.
• 36:11
  Speaker 8: But still to see in it actually.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's just a it's one of those things. Disgusting, man.
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: And it's like, you know, her daughter had passed away
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: to both of them in the car. Wow, somebody had
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: ran up and spray the car up with her daughter.
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: And her daughter was supposed to be on the first
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: verse on in that song, but I chose another little
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: girl instead, you know what I'm saying. But I didn't
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: know her daughter as well, and it was in her
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: the mom and a daughter was really good people, you
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So that really was tragic.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: And she was.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: In the military, you know, so yeah, she served the country,
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So resting piece to absolutely
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: resting Pieza shorty.
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: Last question, are you working on a joint album with
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: Will Smith? Because that was that was a rumor too.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: I want to say some one called a joint album.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: You help him do his album though, Yeah.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: I'm you know, you're working on some music together. You know,
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: I got Wheel in his bag, so you know, I
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: can't wait for the music to actually drop.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: What's the first offering some of the Bad Boys fourth contrack?
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: We're actually about to go create something for the Bad
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: Boys for contract when I when I go on to
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: his crib in a couple of days, okay, yeah.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Joining you working my brother, brother, you are working.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: New album is out right now? Not now, I'm busy
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: and we appreciate you for joining us.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: Brother going on this tour, you know what I'm saying.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: I'm going on a tour from and May, from May
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: to June, Drew, what's the dates? May eleventh, the June fifteenth,
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: not now, busy the door featuring my man uh Millie.
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: You know he's from the city. To shout out to
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: my bro mill and Daks. Daks out there doing the
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: things I put him on the on the joint too,
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: so that is cool. So he's going on there. Anything
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: else you want to say, Album out Friday, album mouth Friday,
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: anything else you want to say.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: That's it, thank you Lucas. Yeah, Joy and Lucas.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Good morning wake that ans up in the morning.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club.