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Fauci Fraud & The “Groyper Problem” | Episode 50 · Propaganda

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SPEAKER_02: Thanks for tuning in.
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SPEAKER_02: You're listening to propaganda with Mick and Jacob for years, and honestly, still currently you were I mean, if you were if you even questioned, if you even if you even so much as offered a different opinion or even an opinion based on facts against Dr.
0:24
SPEAKER_02: Anthony Fauci, and I don't even want to really want to call him a doctor.
0:27
SPEAKER_02: If you so much as question Dr.
0:29
SPEAKER_02: Anthony Fauci, you were attacked for attacking science.
0:34
SPEAKER_02: You were told that you were attacking the very science god himself.
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SPEAKER_00: The existence of science himself, as he once said.
0:41
SPEAKER_00: He said, I am science.
0:44
SPEAKER_02: And ignoring or honestly, just being plain and sensitive to the families suffering from COVID during the COVID-19 pandemic back in 2020.
0:53
SPEAKER_02: I'm sure we all remember that.
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SPEAKER_02: But nude evidence has come out that you were right to question Fauci.
0:59
SPEAKER_02: And honestly, I think it's okay to question anybody in charge, in power, anyone saying anything about anything ever.
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SPEAKER_02: It's okay to question.
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SPEAKER_02: So have you heard about this?
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SPEAKER_02: I know you have.
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SPEAKER_02: I've heard.
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SPEAKER_02: I've heard a little bit.
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SPEAKER_02: Dr.
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SPEAKER_02: Fauci will be testifying before the Senate, Homeland Security, and Governmental Affairs about the origins of COVID-19 and his handling of the pandemic.
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SPEAKER_02: What's different this time around?
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SPEAKER_02: I'm I mean, this has happened how many times before?
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SPEAKER_02: Things have been brought up a little because his his the way he handled it was of course questionable, and everyone was right to question him about everything.
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SPEAKER_02: And many times he has been put in the spotlight to answer questions, and nothing really comes of it.
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SPEAKER_02: So, like, what's different this time?
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, even biden pardoned him at one point.
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SPEAKER_02: So, Senator Rand Paul, and he's like, I mean, he's like Fauci's day one, D one hater.
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SPEAKER_02: He has subpoenaed Fauci to appear before a Senate committee, and he is the head of this committee, all right?
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SPEAKER_02: And this is based on accusations that Fauci lied about the pandemic.
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SPEAKER_02: All right, here we go.
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SPEAKER_02: And this has been ongoing, like I said.
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SPEAKER_02: Paul has accused him for years, four years.
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SPEAKER_02: And but this time he has actually come with some pretty hard evidence that Fauci did lie and he did not handle COVID in the ways that he should have.
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SPEAKER_02: And he was making mistakes that, you know, whatever, whatever.
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SPEAKER_02: But we're talking like he deliberately misled the public or gave wrong information that led to the mess COVID.
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SPEAKER_02: From the top down.
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SPEAKER_01: It was like it was a systemic effort, like from the CDC down to everything else.
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SPEAKER_01: What was the other uh WHO World Health Health Organization?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, I mean, they all they're all all these big three-letter companies, they're all together, they're all in on it together.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's suspicious when you see things happening universally, you know, something's being pushed at once, something's being pushed everywhere.
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SPEAKER_01: Why is it being pushed?
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, they're not giving you answers.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, you're actually not allowed to ask questions about it.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, you can be an established, well-known doctor, or you can be, you know, just a college student who has some questions.
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SPEAKER_01: Doesn't matter who you are, anywhere in that range, if you ask questions, you're attacked for it.
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SPEAKER_01: Those are the things that like would lead you to believe that there's something bigger going on.
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SPEAKER_01: Something where Anthony Fauci's in charge of it, yeah, there might be some suspicious activity.
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SPEAKER_01: Maybe he should be looked at.
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SPEAKER_01: They've and you're right, they've done things like this before, but nothing's ever happened about it.
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SPEAKER_01: So I don't think anything's gonna happen now, actually.
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SPEAKER_01: We'd have to look at Biden's pardon, because you're right, he did pardon him.
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SPEAKER_02: He pardoned him for his actions.
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SPEAKER_01: Doing it not, but not like a universal pardon?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'd have to look into the specifics.
3:43
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: It's it's his actions since 2024.
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SPEAKER_02: It's something like that.
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SPEAKER_02: Anyway, I know it would be interesting if really anything can happen.
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SPEAKER_02: But what's really crazy about this time around is that Paul and his committee have released a thousand pages, over a thousand pages actually, of Fauci's diary he kept during his time as the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases during COVID-19.
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SPEAKER_02: Which, okay, I just I isn't what do you mean?
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SPEAKER_02: Like diary?
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SPEAKER_01: I I was just kind of confused, like this is the same guy who had a portrait of himself in his office.
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SPEAKER_01: If we can find a picture, we should put it on screen.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: He has a portrait of himself behind his desk in the office.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: We should get one.
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SPEAKER_01: It's kind of crazy.
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SPEAKER_01: It's crazy.
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SPEAKER_01: So when you have someone like that in charge of this stuff, it's like are these people all that serious?
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SPEAKER_01: Can these people be trusted?
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SPEAKER_01: What do we know that they're saying is true?
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SPEAKER_01: What's not true?
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SPEAKER_01: Why are they saying it?
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SPEAKER_01: You know?
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SPEAKER_01: It's like, okay, these are the people in charge.
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SPEAKER_01: He has a portrait of himself in his office.
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SPEAKER_01: Do you have a portrait of yourself in your room, in your office, at work, in your vehicle?
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SPEAKER_01: Do you have a portrait of yourself anywhere?
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SPEAKER_01: Hung up?
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SPEAKER_01: Like, who are who are these people?
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SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_02: It it's like that actually makes so much sense.
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SPEAKER_01: It does, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: After we read these diary entries.
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SPEAKER_02: But I just I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: Diary to me was so funny because this old man is keeping a diary.
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SPEAKER_02: And this is like a diary, like he's like dating it and then writing his like thoughts and feelings for the day.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't even do that.
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SPEAKER_02: Do people diary like do people still do that?
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't think so.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't I didn't think so either.
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SPEAKER_01: Do old men do that?
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SPEAKER_01: That's weird.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: That's I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: It was just an odd, like, he has a diary?
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, hey.
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SPEAKER_02: Anyway, so over a thousand pages of this diary have been released to the public as part of this investigation.
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SPEAKER_02: So allegedly, we now have actual proof that Fauci's advice with the pandemic was based in lies and fear mongering.
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SPEAKER_02: So Fauci ended up pleading the fifth 111 times, refuting, refusing to even answer what day of the week it was.
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SPEAKER_02: I am not even kidding you.
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SPEAKER_01: He wouldn't answer what color his tie was, you know, nope.
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SPEAKER_01: What day of the week it was.
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SPEAKER_01: It was just the most blatant, like, under my fifth amendment right.
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SPEAKER_01: I've been advised to not answer any questions.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's like, okay, dude.
6:16
SPEAKER_02: Okay, bud.
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SPEAKER_02: So we didn't get to hear much from Fauci.
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SPEAKER_02: All right, whatever.
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SPEAKER_02: But because of this diary, we got to hear his inner thoughts during the pandemic, and those tell a very different story than what Fauci had been telling the world, had been telling you and us.
6:35
SPEAKER_02: It's funny you bring up the um the picture frame of him because his diary entries, I mean, it just shows that he's so obsessed with fame.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, he has this like bizarre infatuation with being famous.
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SPEAKER_02: And he goes literally it's like it's like he'd save memes of himself in these diary entries, and he'd note like articles that he would been in that he'd been featured in.
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SPEAKER_02: Um he me he mentioned like no, you go.
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SPEAKER_01: These people have credentials and status and degrees and diplomas and all these abbreviations.
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SPEAKER_01: They love this stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: They love the titles, they love the feeling, they like the power, the fame, the uh, you know, the certificate, the portrait of themselves, apparently.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like, and it's not just Fauci, but like this is a broader like conversation about like the people that are in these types of these types of roles, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm not saying just with health stuff, but I'm talking about like bureaucrats in government, you know, unelected officials, all these government organizations, all the way down to like corporate people even.
7:41
SPEAKER_01: But it's like that's who these people are.
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SPEAKER_01: He doesn't care about science or the truth or the health of people.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't think he cares who's president.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't really that that that doesn't affect him.
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SPEAKER_01: When you're at that level, when you think of yourself like that, that doesn't matter.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, what matters about yourself is your wealth and your status and how you're perceived and what you do to stay on your board, member, chair position, seat.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, that that's all that matters to these people.
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SPEAKER_01: And when you start to realize that, it's like, yeah, they don't care about you and me.
8:09
SPEAKER_01: They don't care about the people of the country or the people of their organization or what's happening.
8:13
SPEAKER_01: They'll make up a random, oh yeah, six feet.
8:16
SPEAKER_01: Six feet, that's a safe distance.
8:17
SPEAKER_01: That sounds good.
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SPEAKER_01: He literally said that that's what they came up with.
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SPEAKER_01: That that was the it sounded like a good distance.
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SPEAKER_01: Like they'll come up with stuff like that and say, okay, now everyone, every line you go to, anything you do, anywhere you go, six feet.
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SPEAKER_01: Mask up, you know, it's like it's all these things.
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SPEAKER_02: Didn't it at one point too when things were you settling down and it was a little better, it changed like three feet?
8:38
SPEAKER_01: It did, yeah.
8:38
SPEAKER_01: It was like, well, need to be precautious with now.
8:41
SPEAKER_01: We should do a three feet personal bubble.
8:43
SPEAKER_01: It's like, but and then they were like, you should have a three feet personal bubble for everything.
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SPEAKER_01: Because if you're sick with anything, you know, it's better to cut down.
8:49
SPEAKER_01: And it's like, what are you guys saying?
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SPEAKER_01: Six feet sounded good, so half of that is three, so that's safe still.
8:55
SPEAKER_01: Like, okay, the N95 respirator mask, those are those are better for you.
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SPEAKER_01: So any mask will do, but now you have to always wear any mask.
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SPEAKER_01: Like that helped.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's like, where are you coming up with these rules?
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SPEAKER_01: What are the studies done?
9:07
SPEAKER_02: Can we just say duh?
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SPEAKER_02: Like, duh.
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SPEAKER_02: Of course, what he was going on about during COVID is a bunch of mumbo jumbo.
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SPEAKER_02: Duh.
9:15
SPEAKER_02: Of course, your homemade mesh mask is not doing anything.
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SPEAKER_02: Of course, standing six feet away from someone that could be infected is not going to stop the spread of germs.
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SPEAKER_02: That's not how germs work.
9:26
SPEAKER_01: Right.
9:26
SPEAKER_01: And I'm not saying that I think the masks had a huge effect on people, more than we know.
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SPEAKER_01: I think the social distancing had a large effect on people, especially for mental health and stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: That definitely had an effect.
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SPEAKER_01: But I'm saying, especially like the vaccine stuff, yes, that is like we have no clue.
9:42
SPEAKER_01: And that's the stuff that's even more pushed.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: That's the serious.
9:46
SPEAKER_01: There weren't many studies done on it.
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SPEAKER_01: It was forced on you, it was pushed on you, it was mandated a lot of places, actually, for everything, essentially.
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SPEAKER_01: That's the stuff that's suspicious.
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SPEAKER_01: There wasn't years of testing, there wasn't tons of research done.
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SPEAKER_01: There wasn't, it was unclear if it was a vaccine or a mRNA, you know, regene type.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, what even is it?
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SPEAKER_01: Like, can you explain to me what it is?
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SPEAKER_01: They say it's a vaccine, but it doesn't work like that, you know?
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SPEAKER_01: Changes your mnr, mnra, mrna.
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SPEAKER_01: It changes your mRNA, you know?
10:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, explain to me what it is before you're gonna mandate it for everyone to take, no matter what.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, to me, that's even the bigger problem is vaccine.
10:24
SPEAKER_01: But continue, sorry, I interrupted you.
10:27
SPEAKER_02: No, it's fine.
10:27
SPEAKER_02: It's a good rant.
10:29
SPEAKER_02: It's just, yeah, he's a I mean, I think a lot of people knew, especially if you're listening to us, I think you know that Fauci was not all that he was he claimed to be.
10:40
SPEAKER_01: If you have eyes for yourself, you would know this for the last six years.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, when it came out in 2020, when the COVID-19 came out, when Fauci was put in charge of all the stuff by Trump, mind you, like it's not just one party, it's not just by like Trump is the guy, we've got to put him up there, kind of gave him this this huge platform, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, if you had eyes to see, then you would know that this stuff is all BS.
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SPEAKER_01: But knowing it and talking about it are very different things.
11:04
SPEAKER_01: You know, knowing and doing something about it are very different things.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm glad it's finally being talked about more and that it's actually becoming more mainstream because yeah, it's so I mean, people are so aggressive during COVID.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know, you said it's worse thing.
11:16
SPEAKER_01: Well then we remember.
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SPEAKER_01: It is, it is.
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SPEAKER_02: You said anything against Fauci, you said anything against the vaccine.
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SPEAKER_02: You were like, so you want people to die?
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SPEAKER_02: I even posted something the other day just on like my spam account, not even the propaganda account, just my spam account.
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SPEAKER_02: And I was like, yes, yeah, six years later, the truth is coming out.
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SPEAKER_02: And people, somewhere in the comments, they were like, so you're saying COVID didn't happen?
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SPEAKER_02: No, I'm not saying COVID didn't happen.
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SPEAKER_02: Of course it happened.
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SPEAKER_02: It's clear that it happened.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm saying that the vaccine, what Fauci, what he based his research, his research air quotes on, it just was a lot of lies.
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SPEAKER_02: It was a lot of BS.
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SPEAKER_02: And I think we're seeing that now, especially with these diary entries that we'll get into.
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SPEAKER_02: It's just so funny.
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SPEAKER_02: They take it.
11:58
SPEAKER_02: You're you're at level two.
11:59
SPEAKER_02: You're like, oh, I think maybe this guy is maybe lying about some of the vaccines and some of the research and maybe where it started.
12:06
SPEAKER_02: That's a huge one.
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SPEAKER_02: We'll get into it.
12:08
SPEAKER_02: Maybe it didn't start by a bat.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe it was actually in a lab, maybe this.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's like, oh, so you're saying that people didn't die.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's like, what the hell are you saying?
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SPEAKER_02: I didn't say that.
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SPEAKER_02: What?
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SPEAKER_02: I just have questions and you're taking it to like level 1000s.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm not saying it didn't happen.
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SPEAKER_02: I it was six years ago.
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SPEAKER_02: I lived.
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SPEAKER_02: I didn't get a graduation because of it.
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SPEAKER_02: I had to wear a mask in my college classes.
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SPEAKER_02: Of course I'm saying it, I'm not saying it didn't happen.
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SPEAKER_02: It's just so funny that they can never be okay with questions.
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SPEAKER_02: It's always like, well, then you're saying it didn't happen.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, then you're denying that my grandfather, my grandfather died from COVID.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, I'm sure he did.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm so sorry that happened.
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SPEAKER_02: But I think a lot of people in charge, about you being one of them, let you down.
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SPEAKER_02: Anyway, so in this diary, he is infatuated with himself, basically.
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SPEAKER_02: He's very obsessed with the idea of being liked and fame.
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SPEAKER_02: So he noted in one entry when he appeared on the front page of the Washington Post.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
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SPEAKER_02: So big front page article.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, actually, wait, sorry, I'm reading the quote.
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SPEAKER_02: So, quote, all right, ready?
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SPEAKER_02: Here's the diary entry.
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SPEAKER_02: Quote, big front page article about me appeared in the Washington Post.
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SPEAKER_02: Very flattering.
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SPEAKER_02: The situation with my national and international fame is explosive and really unimaginable.
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SPEAKER_02: It is not it is not hyperbolic.
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SPEAKER_02: It is not hyperbolic to say that today I am the most famous and talked-about person in the country and one of the most recognizable persons in the world.
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SPEAKER_02: Countless profiles on me.
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SPEAKER_02: I can't even read all the things that are written about me since I'm so busy, end quote.
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SPEAKER_02: This is a real entry.
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SPEAKER_02: This is like genuinely real.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm not exaggerating this, putting my own words in it at all.
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SPEAKER_02: Insane, actually.
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SPEAKER_02: I could I don't even know if I could write that about myself.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm glad he has confidence, I guess.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: Then he also writes uh Trump, quote, seems to be enamored with me, even though I am taking the spotlight away from him, end quote.
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SPEAKER_02: It's so funny to me.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: He also notes at one point that he had been invited to appear on Dancing with the Stars.
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SPEAKER_02: So yeah, it sounds like a genuine guy that really cares about public health and cares about you and wanting to do the best that he can.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: So is he a genius, like a out-of-this world genius mad scientist coming up with all these vaccines and safety measures and studies and research?
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SPEAKER_01: Or is he a guy with some, you know, some credentials, some status, some power that he's obtained over the years in his industry, and he's gotten to the top, and now he's made it all about himself and fame and riches and power and glory for himself.
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SPEAKER_01: Like it's obviously the latter.
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SPEAKER_01: He is not genuinely concerned about anyone, anything else.
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SPEAKER_01: None of these people are.
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SPEAKER_01: It really is as simple as that.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's not to say, like, oh, left, right, the whole system, but but it is like, okay, left, right, government, employees, bureaucrats, all these people.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, like, yeah, it doesn't really change.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, Fauci didn't change at all under Trump and under Biden.
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SPEAKER_01: Same thing.
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SPEAKER_01: Trump loved him, Biden pardoned him.
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SPEAKER_01: Why, what's that about?
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SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_01: And it's like, it's good to ask these questions, but I think the deeper thing is like, who are these people?
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SPEAKER_01: And not because it's so important to what happened in COVID, it is, but it's so important to realize what happened so that you can learn to what happens in the future, you know?
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SPEAKER_01: Like, you want to talk about 2020 election, being suspicious, sure.
15:41
SPEAKER_01: 2020 election, okay.
15:43
SPEAKER_01: COVID, sure, okay.
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SPEAKER_01: All these things are gonna lead up to future things, you know, future things that'll happen, whether that's next election, whether it's the next major world phenomenon or something, you know, and hopefully people will be able to critically think better and look at who these people are.
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SPEAKER_01: Why are they important?
15:58
SPEAKER_01: Why is this being forced on us, you know?
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SPEAKER_01: And it it all it all adds up when you begin to see these things like fall into place, when you begin to see, I sounds dumb, but when you begin to see these things like line up into what people are promoting, where effort and power and money is being pushed, you'll begin to see a lot of like a lot of the larger themes.
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SPEAKER_01: I I feel like it's just it's just once you see it, you can't you can't unsee it.
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SPEAKER_01: It's ridiculous.
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SPEAKER_02: I know, and I think a lot of people are shocked by this, which it is shocking because it's like Well, you were told to trust them.
16:27
SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: It's the guy that's going to help us.
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SPEAKER_02: And in his diary entry, all he cares about is that he was on the Washington Post.
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SPEAKER_02: No mention of like, oh my gosh, it's really hard.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, Americans are dying.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm trying to find the cure, the vaccine, this.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, like it's literally at the very least, can we agree that he is obsessed with himself and his public persona and wanting to be?
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SPEAKER_02: He even says it.
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SPEAKER_02: He's like one of the most famous people in the world.
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SPEAKER_02: He loves that, huh?
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SPEAKER_02: He loves that.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's like, well, is that really what your job and position is about?
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SPEAKER_02: Or is it about the public health and making sure people are aren't dying from this horrible disease?
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SPEAKER_02: So at the very least, this man doesn't seem to really care at all about anyone except for himself.
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SPEAKER_02: There was another diary, Andrew's from January uh 26th, 2020.
17:23
SPEAKER_02: So, I mean, this is like back when things were first starting, the whispers were starting about COVID, right?
17:29
SPEAKER_02: And this is where we get into the, I guess, the where COVID begun.
17:36
SPEAKER_02: If you guys remember, and I'm sure you do, because it's burned into our memory forever, where COVID began was always a source of or always a point of contention.
17:46
SPEAKER_02: People were like, okay, like what actually, where is this from?
17:48
SPEAKER_02: It was a lab made, was it really from a bat?
17:51
SPEAKER_02: And then it transmitted to human somehow.
17:53
SPEAKER_02: Like, how did this?
17:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was some like bad soup that someone in Wuhan and China had, whatever.
18:00
SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
18:01
SPEAKER_02: But for the longest time, if you again, if you questioned it, you were questioning Fauci, you were questioning one of the smartest men in the world, some of the smartest men in the world.
18:12
SPEAKER_02: And how dare you, you know what I mean?
18:14
SPEAKER_02: And it's so funny because this journal entry, um, he goes, it quotes it now appears that data that from data that the first infection was in early December and not connected to the market, the market being the market in China.
18:28
SPEAKER_02: The infection spread among people weeks before the Chinese reported they were dealing with a new infection.
18:33
SPEAKER_02: And that gave the virus time to establish itself in multi-generation, multi-generational sustained spread.
18:39
SPEAKER_02: He goes on to say, remember, early on, the Chinese were saying that there is no human-to-human transmission, and all of the original 27 cases were from the market.
18:48
SPEAKER_02: Now we know the market was not the source, it was the amplifier.
18:53
SPEAKER_02: Having said that, somewhere the virus jumped from animals to humans.
18:57
SPEAKER_02: But then he spent the next couple of years telling everyone Wuhan was the source, the market, Chinese, the stupid bat soup, and discrediting anyone that questioned anything differently.
19:08
SPEAKER_02: What I get from this journal entry is that the market, Wuhan, was the amplifier.
19:12
SPEAKER_02: They don't really know how it started.
19:14
SPEAKER_02: Fauci himself is admitting, all right, you know, like where is this coming from?
19:18
SPEAKER_02: We don't really know.
19:19
SPEAKER_02: The market seems to be the amplifier.
19:21
SPEAKER_02: Somewhere, somewhere, the somewhere, somehow the virus jumped from um animals to humans.
19:25
SPEAKER_02: But then he goes on to tell you guys, no, it was from the bat.
19:29
SPEAKER_02: It's from the bat, it's only the bat, and that anyone else to question anything was crazy.
19:34
SPEAKER_02: You're crazy.
19:36
SPEAKER_02: It's just, it's just really interesting.
19:38
SPEAKER_02: The way that he decided to present himself online on any interviews, and then this is what he's entering in his journal.
19:43
SPEAKER_02: It's just interesting.
19:44
SPEAKER_02: So then he entered another journal entry on February 8th in 2020.
19:48
SPEAKER_02: So this is like, I don't know, a month later, so not even a few weeks.
19:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, a few weeks.
19:52
SPEAKER_02: Last one was from January 26th.
19:53
SPEAKER_02: So this is February 8th.
19:55
SPEAKER_02: Tom Frieden, former CDC director, called me this AM and we discussed various aspects of the outbreak.
20:02
SPEAKER_02: He and I are on the same page and thinking this is acting like a bad influenza in its transmissibility, and that the denominator is much greater than 34,867 above, making the case fatality rate more like 0.2 to 0.3% rather than 2%.
20:21
SPEAKER_02: Fauci said in a testimony before the House Oversight Committee on March 11th, 2020.
20:27
SPEAKER_02: So again, this journal entry was on February 8th.
20:30
SPEAKER_02: So a month later, March 11th, that quote, the state mortality over all of this, when you look at all the data, including China, is about 3%.
20:40
SPEAKER_02: It first started off as two or three, end quote.
20:45
SPEAKER_02: So he himself in his diary is writing that the fatality rate is 0.2 to 0.3%, which is a much different story than 3%.
21:00
SPEAKER_02: Now, why does this matter?
21:02
SPEAKER_02: Because of the absolute public mayhem that Fauci caused.
21:07
SPEAKER_02: And that's why I said fear mongering at the beginning.
21:09
SPEAKER_02: When he fudges these numbers, when he says, Oh, it's actually 3%, but he knows in his mind it's really 0.2%.
21:15
SPEAKER_02: That's a much different story than 3%.
21:19
SPEAKER_02: That is that is literally telling the US, the world, that this is more dangerous than it actually factually is to his data.
21:30
SPEAKER_01: Okay, think about it this way February 2020, like this isn't years after COVID.
21:37
SPEAKER_01: This isn't a full year or two into it.
21:39
SPEAKER_01: This is like at the start.
21:41
SPEAKER_01: You know, he he knew this from the start.
21:44
SPEAKER_01: It didn't take research and time and years.
21:47
SPEAKER_01: And it's like, no, this was available from the start, but yet we had to live like it for a year.
21:52
SPEAKER_01: You had to miss the end of your school year and most of the next, and social distance, and lots of people lost their jobs, the entire economy flipped up.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: Upside down.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: Like that's what changed for you.
22:02
SPEAKER_01: He at the start of it knew it wasn't serious, knew it wasn't as big of a deal as they were making it.
22:07
SPEAKER_01: Not that it's not an issue at some point.
22:09
SPEAKER_01: It is.
22:09
SPEAKER_01: It was worldwide, sure.
22:11
SPEAKER_01: But he knew it was not what they were cracking it up to be.
22:14
SPEAKER_01: He knew that it wasn't like that, what they were saying it was in the media.
22:17
SPEAKER_01: And yet he overplayed it.
22:19
SPEAKER_01: He lied about it.
22:20
SPEAKER_01: He exaggerated it.
22:22
SPEAKER_01: And from what it looks like, if not other incentives as well, for sure, just personal gain in fame and the power that he got with that, you know?
22:31
SPEAKER_02: The reaction would have been very different if he would have said, oh, the fatality rate is 0.2%.
22:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:36
SPEAKER_02: 0.2%.
22:37
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
22:38
SPEAKER_02: Right.
22:38
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
22:38
SPEAKER_02: There's a fatality rate.
22:39
SPEAKER_02: All right.
22:39
SPEAKER_02: You know, let's see what we're dealing with here.
22:41
SPEAKER_02: But when he jumps up to 3%, yeah, there's a different reaction.
22:47
SPEAKER_02: And you're right.
22:47
SPEAKER_02: Then the reaction that we got was okay, we have to be masked like dogs for the next year.
22:52
SPEAKER_02: We can't go out in public without being vaccinated.
22:56
SPEAKER_02: Actually, you have to get vaccinated to keep your job.
22:58
SPEAKER_02: And then small businesses were ruined for forever.
23:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
23:02
SPEAKER_02: Kids missed out on school, the fundamental years of learning.
23:05
SPEAKER_02: People missed out on graduation.
23:07
SPEAKER_02: Colleges were never the same.
23:08
SPEAKER_02: Like literally, ever since COVID, nothing was it was not the same.
23:11
SPEAKER_00: It has not been.
23:12
SPEAKER_02: It hasn't been.
23:13
SPEAKER_02: So it's it's really crazy.
23:15
SPEAKER_02: It's really interesting to hear these diary entries and to get actual proof that he knew of other things.
23:25
SPEAKER_02: He had other data of other things than what he was telling us when he got on stage.
23:30
SPEAKER_02: And apparently his motive was not to keep you and I safe.
23:34
SPEAKER_02: His motive was to get as much fame as he could.
23:38
SPEAKER_01: And you would know that if you were looking into it, reading it, seeing a lot about it, you know, actually using the eyes that God gave you to make determinations about this stuff, you would know that.
23:48
SPEAKER_01: Unfortunately, a lot of people don't have that ability.
23:50
SPEAKER_01: A lot of people trust the system and the government and agencies and the science.
23:55
SPEAKER_01: Remember the science?
23:56
SPEAKER_01: Like, and they know that.
23:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you should have questions.
23:59
SPEAKER_01: You should be able to have questions.
24:01
SPEAKER_01: And anytime you can't, that's a good sign you're looking in the right place.
24:04
SPEAKER_01: You know, it's a good sign there's something there they don't want you to know.
24:06
SPEAKER_01: There's something there that they are hiding or lying about or exaggerating or inflating.
24:10
SPEAKER_01: Like, it's just a good lesson for the future.
24:13
SPEAKER_01: There's one more story I want to get into quick.
24:15
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you guys saw this.
24:16
SPEAKER_01: Like the last week, I've been seeing this all over.
24:18
SPEAKER_01: And I was okay, whatever, just a post.
24:20
SPEAKER_01: Okay, someone said this, whatever.
24:22
SPEAKER_01: You've probably seen it.
24:24
SPEAKER_01: Political released an article about a Gruper problem in the GOP.
24:30
SPEAKER_01: That's what they're calling it, a grouper problem.
24:31
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
24:32
SPEAKER_01: For those of you who don't know what a Gruper is, a Gruper specifically is a you know follower, fan of Nick Fuenez, okay?
24:42
SPEAKER_01: Broadly, dun dun dun dun.
24:44
SPEAKER_00: Oh no.
24:45
unknown: Okay.
24:46
SPEAKER_01: Broadly, it's a younger cohort of conservatives, traditional conservatives, anti-establishment, you know, anti-big government, very focused on faith and logic and the founding of the country, returning to the country to what it was, you know, tradition, all these things.
25:02
SPEAKER_01: That's what the groupers broadly believe in.
25:04
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
25:05
SPEAKER_01: So what's interesting to me is political releases this ad saying that the GOP has a groper problem.
25:11
SPEAKER_01: Allegedly, all the staffers, all the congressmen, sorry, all the staffers, all the congress workers, all these employees, they're all gropers.
25:18
SPEAKER_01: It's a problem.
25:19
SPEAKER_01: The GOP's changing, you know?
25:21
SPEAKER_01: Okay, technically, it's not a like a number by number stat.
25:26
SPEAKER_01: From what I saw, they interviewed a congressional staffer, and this was his estimate, his approach, you know.
25:31
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
25:32
SPEAKER_01: Which is like, okay, you're gonna.
25:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
25:34
SPEAKER_02: So what?
25:35
SPEAKER_01: They interview this guy, and his estimate, I guess, was what they're saying in the article, is 50%, 40%, 50% of the GOP is Groiper or Gruiper adjacent, if that's what you want to say.
25:48
SPEAKER_01: And they're worried.
25:49
SPEAKER_01: The establishment Republicans are worried, the boomers are worried, the old Republicans are worried.
25:53
SPEAKER_01: Why?
25:53
SPEAKER_01: Because things are changing, things are different, they're not going to be in power forever.
25:57
SPEAKER_01: That's a problem for them.
25:58
SPEAKER_01: I actually align a lot more with the Groupers than I do with the neocons.
26:04
SPEAKER_01: I align with the younger generation returning to tradition and Christ and you know, traditional masculinity and femininity and based, you know, perspectives on history and current world events.
26:15
SPEAKER_01: I align with them a lot more than I do with the boomer, neocon, pro-war, you know, like the point of grouperism, if that's what we're gonna call it.
26:24
SPEAKER_01: Groupism.
26:25
SPEAKER_01: Groyperism, it's America first, okay?
26:28
SPEAKER_01: America first, America only, that's it.
26:30
SPEAKER_01: Okay, not other countries first.
26:32
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm talking about.
26:33
SPEAKER_01: Not other countries first, not other peoples first, our people who created this country, who built this country, the citizens of our country, not people who got here five minutes ago, like we talked about in other episodes.
26:43
SPEAKER_01: That's what it's about.
26:44
SPEAKER_01: So to me, that's actually a positive sign that we're seeing more and more Republicans, more and more Gen Z, more and more conservatives align with these views.
26:52
SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying that you can have criticisms.
26:54
SPEAKER_01: That's totally fine.
26:55
SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying that you can't have criticisms.
26:57
SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying that to me sounds a lot better than the current old-head GOP establishment we have.
27:02
SPEAKER_01: It's just funny that it's causing chaos, it's causing issues.
27:06
SPEAKER_01: The left hates them, obviously, but the right hates them just as much, which is it tells you something.
27:11
SPEAKER_01: Just like we talked about earlier with Biden and Trump and Fauci, just like we've talked about in other episodes in the past.
27:18
SPEAKER_01: It's not as black and white as you think.
27:19
SPEAKER_01: The left hates us, they are bad, they're evil, don't get me wrong, that's true.
27:23
SPEAKER_01: But it's also the right as it is right now, I think they've lost their way.
27:29
SPEAKER_01: I think they've changed a lot.
27:30
SPEAKER_01: I think they've slowly, you know, dropped off a cliff essentially.
27:35
SPEAKER_01: If there's any hope to changing things, I think it's up to our generation.
27:38
SPEAKER_01: Like, in all honesty, it's up to our generation to change things.
27:41
SPEAKER_01: And it's actually a good sign that we're seeing something like this.
27:43
SPEAKER_01: It's a good sign we're thinking of new ways to look at things, thinking of new ways to govern, thinking of new ways to help our country return to what it was.
27:50
SPEAKER_01: Like, don't forget the Make America Great Again promised.
27:52
SPEAKER_01: That was Trump in 2016.
27:53
SPEAKER_01: Like, look at Trump now.
27:54
SPEAKER_01: Look at the campaign, look at the establishment, the administration now.
27:58
SPEAKER_01: It's totally different.
28:00
SPEAKER_01: So it's a good reminder actually of what we were promised to have, what we should have, what we can have, versus what the establishment Republicans want us to have right now.
28:08
SPEAKER_01: So it's a problem for them.
28:10
SPEAKER_01: I think it'd actually be better for us in the future.
28:12
SPEAKER_01: And it's something to think about.
28:14
SPEAKER_01: Um, because sometimes I can get all like, there's no point.
28:17
SPEAKER_01: We can't even vote.
28:18
SPEAKER_01: What's the point?
28:18
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
28:20
SPEAKER_01: But it is like, okay, there might be some light at the end of the tunnel.
28:24
SPEAKER_01: When we get in charge, when we get in power, we might be able to effectuate change.
28:28
SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying it's gonna fix it.
28:29
SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying it's like we elect someone and then boom, the government's fixed.
28:33
SPEAKER_01: You know, we try that with Trump.
28:34
SPEAKER_01: Doesn't work that way, obviously.
28:36
SPEAKER_01: And people know that, right?
28:38
SPEAKER_01: But you should have a little bit of hope that our generation, especially, especially Gen Z, is returning most importantly to Christ, to the faith, to Christianity.
28:47
SPEAKER_01: That's the most important part.
28:48
SPEAKER_01: And then everything else in their lives should follow in place too, just like we're seeing with traditional um takes and perspectives being put in place, you know, a lot more conservative policy, you know.
28:58
SPEAKER_01: It's just it's better for everyone.
29:01
SPEAKER_02: So I really like that message because even like we were just talking about this too.
29:06
SPEAKER_02: It feels so hopeless sometimes when we when even when we sit down and talk, it's like, what is what is even the point?
29:11
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
29:11
SPEAKER_02: Like it feels like our vote doesn't really matter.
29:13
SPEAKER_02: It feels like it doesn't really change anything.
29:14
SPEAKER_02: Like, what is actually happening?
29:15
SPEAKER_02: It feels like chaos constantly, and nothing really can help that.
29:21
SPEAKER_02: But I think there is, like you were saying, some light at the end of the tunnel.
29:24
SPEAKER_02: I think there is.
29:25
SPEAKER_01: Gen Z is based.
29:26
SPEAKER_01: We are getting older, we're being able to vote, you know, give it give it a few years, we'll be in the governmental offices, you know.
29:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
29:36
SPEAKER_01: Senators, congressmen, governors, maybe presidential, you know, I don't know.
29:40
SPEAKER_01: Give us a little bit of time and we'll be there.
29:42
SPEAKER_01: It's it's already great signs from what we're seeing now.
29:45
SPEAKER_01: Like, what's crazy to me is that for the first time, you know, what I what whatever the statistic is since the 1950s, 1960s, since post-World War II, it's the most conservative generation of men since that time.
29:58
SPEAKER_01: That's a long time.
29:59
SPEAKER_01: That's 70 years, you know.
30:01
SPEAKER_01: That's that's that is crazy eternity ago in the world of politics and the ever-changing generations and dynamics of the world we live in today.
30:10
SPEAKER_01: Like, that's what's crazy to me.
30:11
SPEAKER_01: That's good.
30:12
SPEAKER_01: You know, returning to the Bible and Christianity and faith in your relationship with God, that stuff is actually good.
30:18
SPEAKER_01: That stuff is that can effectuate meaningful change because it's something you believe in, it's something you work towards, it's something you're willing to sacrifice for, you know, something greater than yourself.
30:28
SPEAKER_01: It's not just lower taxes, you know, give us some cut taxes, and you know, let's make this, let's make this a great financial fiscal policy, you know.
30:39
SPEAKER_01: It's like, no, we want more than that.
30:41
SPEAKER_01: So if there's anything there, just stay positive and if there's anything there, you go.
30:54
SPEAKER_02: You go.
30:55
SPEAKER_01: If there's anything there, just just a word of encouragement.
30:59
SPEAKER_02: I like that.
31:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because I I don't know.
31:01
SPEAKER_02: For me, when the deeper I get into Yeah, I don't know, just like scroll on X and you're like, oh my gosh, like, is do I end it now?
31:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we're cooked.
31:10
SPEAKER_02: What is the point?
31:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
31:11
SPEAKER_02: So I I like that you said that.
31:13
SPEAKER_02: I think that's a good reminder.
31:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
31:14
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