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Cheap Trick · Deprogrammed Music Podcast

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Hey everybody, it's Justin. And just to let you know that
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I'm very aware of the audio on this episode.
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If you are a person who cannot listen to three dudes sitting
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around a laptop, I recommend you skip this one.
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But I also say give it a go. It's really good and fun
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conversation about cheap Trick and we since we were in the same
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room we were able to like not talk over each other as much as
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possible. I understand, but like I said,
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if you can't if you can't deal with that kind of audio, you
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might want to skip this one. Otherwise, enjoy the
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conversation about Cheap Trick. It's D program, the podcast
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where we try to get you into a band.
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That's right. We've done all the work for you
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and all you have to do is push play and there may be a party
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atmosphere to to I mean, we're we're all kind of half asleep.
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Yeah, but this is a whole thing. This is the first ever
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deprogrammed road trip. So I want, I do want to preface
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by saying you may have noticed that the audio is a little less
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than usual. We are indeed 3 tudes literally
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sitting around the laptop recording.
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We have never done that before, didn't have Rd. equipment.
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That's how we're doing it. You're getting an episode about
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cheap Trick today. I'm skipping all the, all the
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other stuff, but it's important to lay it out that way because
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again, we did the road trip and I'm not sure which one of you
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guys we, we've, we talked about like, you know, how do we watch
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Major League 3? Well, that's like the least of
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our problems right now. I killed Bob.
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Euchre is what happened. That's Chris killed Bob Euchre
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and we talked about but. Sorry, Chicago.
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The three of us are Mets fans and the the Mets were in
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Baltimore. So we said let's go to Baltimore
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and let's go watch the Mets, and then we'll talk about cheap
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tricks. So I'm going to start with you,
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Randy. What a great team.
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I mean, it kind of worked out it was, it was Yacht Rock cap day
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at that ballpark. That's crazy.
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So. We're going to get more into
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that. You're going to want to, you're
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going to want to listen to this after the fact because it's
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there's a lot to talk about, but talk to me about what it was
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why, why you think Cheap Trick was the the one for, for this
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trip. Something lighthearted,
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something kind of fun, and something that we don't have to,
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like, dig deep into, like the meaning of Cheap Trick.
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Because the meaning of Cheap Trick is like, there is no
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meaning of Cheap Trick. It's just fucking 70s
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rock'n'roll. Yeah.
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Like, I don't know, Like, I was trying to think of, like, things
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to bring up. And usually in the beginning
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segment, I'm like, oh, here are my here are my points.
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And my points here are just like, it's a band.
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I don't want to say that they have little story, but like,
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their story is they're a pretty good band that blew up because
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of a live record. Yeah.
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Live at Badokin. Or how do you pronounce it?
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Badokin. Budokan.
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Budokan. OK, yeah, I know.
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I got that wrong on my own pocket.
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I don't give a shit. Sorry Chicago.
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Sorry, Japan. Sorry everybody.
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Yeah, we're good. We're rocking around the world
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here. We don't apologize to Baltimore.
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We thank them for actually allowing us to do this.
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But I mean, like, I don't know, like this is a man that stayed
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together for a very, very long time.
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Still tours. Hell, they're doing the State
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Fair in New York this year. So, yeah.
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And they're, they're kind of, they're kind of all still
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intact, buddy. Carlos had a little bit of a
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falling out with him a bunch of years ago and there was a
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lawsuit and all that. But, you know.
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Tom Peterson, Rick Nielsen, Robin Zander, all still
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together. What I I guess I didn't realize
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coming into this, there was a lot of like, oh, I didn't know
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that about Cheap Trick. I didn't realize that Robin
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Zander was considered to be like a major influential rock'n'roll
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vocalist. Like I really thought that the
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band ran off the gas of Rick Nielsen, which it kind of does,
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but Nielsen writes all the songs and it reminds me a lot of The
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Who because Pete wrote a ton of The Who songs, all the classics,
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and Roger just sang them. And it was kind of the same for
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Robin Sander. They're kind of cut from a very
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similar claw cloth and you get leader towards the discog.
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There is some who influence in there.
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I can't remember what the right. Well, one-on-one, one-on-one
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really felt like there was a lot of who influence in there
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because it might have been, I don't know, a year, a couple
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years after who's next came out or something like that.
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But you, you can tell. And they were, they were a
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stadium rock band. They were a stadium rock band
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meant to be heard live. And I think that's really what
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caught the attention of of the world on them.
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And you know that's not a why what I do.
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No, no, it's just fun. This room's pre eminent cheap
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trick historian Randy's so. Fuck that, I don't know Jack
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shit. I I read a Wikipedia article and
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claimed to be an expert. So, Chris, talk to me about it
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like you immediately go fuck yeah.
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Cheap trick is Cheap trick's the one Like let's do it.
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I. Wanted to do some goofy and it's
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my favorite karaoke song and I had a really funny interaction
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with my girlfriend about them. There you go, that's what
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happened. What was the interaction?
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Oh, I was, I was listening to Surrender and preparing for a
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karaoke jam. And Rachel comes inside and is
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like, what are you doing? And I was like, what do you
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think I'm doing? I'm listening to the greatest
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song of all time. And and she was like, she's
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like, what are you talking about?
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It's Surrender. I'm like, yeah, it's a great
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song. She's like, it's not a great
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song. And I was like, OK, how many
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songs are there about people's parents letting them down?
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And then we went on to list like 30 of them topic for a song.
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And anyways, cheap truck is like kick out the jams bullshit.
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And who like honestly, if I'm being honest by myself, my
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favorite food is chocolate chip cookies and my favorite genre of
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music is this. And it's as simple as that, you
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know, I mean, it doesn't have to get more complicated.
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Fucking cheap trick. Listen to it.
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It really doesn't have to. And you know, that's what I kind
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of immediately knew. I mean, I, I said in the chat I
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was like, I know a song. And Randy immediately starts
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laughing. I was like wait.
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You know, at least two or three. But then I was like, oh, wait,
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no, yeah, I know. I know more as you're listening.
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And Chris, we were talking about it like at the game.
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Like, it's just, it's, it's silly how like fun these guys
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are. Like you don't, you don't, you
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don't think about it, except for the fact that you have always
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thought about how fun they are. You hear those those two songs
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that we're talking about and it's like, Oh yeah, yeah, I
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think I. Said like they're a Top 40
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everyday radio band, but they're still like a fun little band,
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yeah. It's so.
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Weird. And like, you know, you push
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play on this this playlist and it that's the other funny thing
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I feel, and we'll get into that on the next layer is like, this
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was both too much and not enough at the same time.
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It's so weird. Yeah, that made it worse, but.
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Like what a blast this band is. And you know, and it's, it's
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more than just the 2 songs and it's, I don't know, man.
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It's again, here I am trying to make this complicated and fuck
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that. Like, yeah, let's, let's really
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not, it's really not like this was something that we could do.
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The three of us huddled around the laptop.
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Yeah. Like that's ultimately what it
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boils down. Half the time this entire
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historiography is literally just one dude newly on guitar.
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Bass plays root notes and a drummer goes in court notes and
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it all rules. It rules every time it's.
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Very very fun. So like.
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Keeping that, keeping that in mind, I think there was there's
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some dispute because initially I think we did what, like 4-4 or
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five records. It may have gotten up to even 6
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and you were like, this may be too much.
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And then Chris was like, no, we got to have this too.
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Like so it didn't ended up getting more.
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But like when we talk about like what we grabbed here and when
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you talk about your list and how you put it together for this
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one, Randy, like what, what are you gravitating towards?
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Like what's? I mean go as simple, as
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difficult as you want, ear. Worms.
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That's, you know, I, I, I didn't try to like listen to lyrics
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because most lyrics are about like, I want to pick up chicks.
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So OK, that's rock'n'roll in the 70s.
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Some are a lot worse. Yeah.
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Yes, some are a lot worse, but I don't know, I, I just kind of,
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once I kind of, I was able to sing choruses.
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I am the hook guy. So hook me with a good chorus,
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catch me with a nice little guitar riff and yeah, I'm in
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like, yeah, this is so simplistic.
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I don't know if I'm going to listen to this band a whole lot
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after this. Like just Oh yeah, I feel like
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listening to Cheap Trick today. But like, I will go back and
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have a conversation with people about my favorite Cheap Trick
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songs. And don't have to be
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surrendered, that don't have to be Dream Police, that don't have
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to be. I want you to want me, you know?
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And that's the whole bit about kind of doing this podcast is
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like understanding a band, figuring out who they are and
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figuring out, you know, especially bands with a good
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legacy. It's nice to like dive in and
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find the legacy. Yeah, I mean you we knew it, but
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it's it's kind of nice to like define it a little bit.
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Sure. And I think that's what we're
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doing here is helping define the legacy past the songs that most
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people probably already know, right.
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So like Chris, like talk to me because again, you insisted we
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we had to have self-titled so talk.
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To me, I didn't add it because I thought that it got like
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horrible reviews and you know, the the breakout was in color
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and all right, the reason? We have to have it is because
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it's full rippers front to back and and you know what?
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Just because mainstream media at the time couldn't understand
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what they were trying to do, all right?
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They were looking for maybe like an expensive trick or maybe like
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maybe like something else. But who are you?
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Me. Listen, that's a me.
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All I'm telling you is it's all rippers.
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It's rock'n'roll. We're going to keep these jams
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out. Got to have the self-titled
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because I got to talk about he's a whore.
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That's like I said, we have to like I I'm spoiler alert, I
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guess I'm going to talk about that song like and you didn't
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have the song from Top Gun on the list.
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Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy.
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I know like we, we, we don't want to lie to the people.
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We want to get them into cheap trick.
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That's what we're here for. And honestly and truly like
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music, music and culture are sometimes just to be fun.
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And there's definitely some stuff from this band that I
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would have to give a disclaimer. We actually talked about it
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before. Like specifically there's a tune
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that I want to talk about, which I'm I, I'm still contemplating.
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On my list is like still 23 songs.
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I think we're going to talk about it regardless.
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Might be just a dump out because it's it's a Ripper, but we got
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to talk about the it's just a hard thing to take.
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Like sometimes the tops should take but also like come for
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different time. It's meant to be tongue in
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cheek, but it should never be tongue in cheek.
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And to be honest with you, I don't want to give anybody a bad
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taste their mouth about this band, because you should go into
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it with exactly what they're for right And like fucking go see
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them go to the go to the New York State fair or whatever.
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Yeah, get some get some like a video ass here in corn with your
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cousin and like watch cheap trip.
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That sounds amazing. I.
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Guarantee you that show rips just.
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Gonna be better than Little John.
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I'll tell you like when I'm when I'm putting my list together,
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like I didn't think much about the songs other than the fact
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that I I try to keep it in the time or in the frame of this
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trip. Like I knew that the point of us
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even doing this band was because we were going to be in
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Baltimore. We're going to go see the Mets
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and we were going to talk about this band.
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So like I leaned into anything that I thought was fun that, you
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know, ear wormy, you know, definitely the ones that we
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should have, like the ones we should have and you know it.
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I just tried to make sure that that the fun thing was going to
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be like full on display 100% And you know, I asked the Internet
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and when I I got I got a lot of answers for for cheap trick.
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I got antsy the lot of answers, which is great, man.
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Like because like it kind of goes back to that point that,
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you know, Chris and I were talking about like they're this,
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you know, hugely popular Top 40 band that gets played like
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constantly. They're just like a fun little
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band and like there's this feeling up there.
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There's this feeling up there like they're little and they're
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underrated, but they're not. Like it's also.
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Rockford, IL. They don't come from a big city.
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This is like, and that's been their personality.
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So I think also. Cool look.
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Cool energy. Like, like, like, like beyond
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the songs you don't like. We talked about this in Hepcat.
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You don't teach cool. Yeah, Like genuinely like these
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guys are 80s cool like this? Is kind of a nerd.
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They're fucking cool. It's kind of a dork.
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You know, I look at that. It's like watching Dick Van Dyke
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when you're located, like, oh, I'm going to be a grown up one
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day. That's cool.
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You know what I mean? So.
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All that said, like, I mean, it feels like there's a couple
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homers. I'm always the odd man.
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Like I can always throw the wrench in the plane, Randy.
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Yeah, I think I might be too. I just was going to be tough.
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Yeah, I. I just don't know because I you
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know, I don't know what the cheap track fan is thinking
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also. I have a feeling, I mean, I know
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that normally we can't see each other and we can see each other
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right now. Yeah, no one can ever see us.
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I'm looking around this room right now.
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I don't think the three guys in this bedroom are about to pick a
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bunch of balance. I think.
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I think there's a chance we might skip them and there's a
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lot of them and they're pretty good.
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But I don't, I personally, I'm not picking no balance.
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So yeah. I did not steer towards that
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direction. Well, I.
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Think that's what I was implying by yeah, with this trip in mind,
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so. Maybe.
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Maybe. Some that aren't ballads, but
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there were a couple songs that felt like heavier in tone that
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weren't just like flat out rivers.
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They were, you know, kind of almost demonic in a way.
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Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, a little bit there's.
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There's there's some heavy metal influence, yeah.
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I think so. I think so.
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So what do you? Think how many do you think we
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get through unanimously? I'm going to.
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Go kind of conservative. I'm going to go 5, all right?
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It feels not. We could accidentally get 5,
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yeah. So this is tough one, because we
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know there's three that are going to be on the list.
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Yeah, there's going to be. There's three that we simply
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like. Can't lie to people.
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And this could easily be 7 or 8. There's probably 4 if you're a
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movie fan. There's 4/3 fans.
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I'm taking the over. I'm going 7 I.
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Like it? That's.
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You know what? That's probably a better option
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there because we're. Going to there are there are
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some Givens that I know sometimes deprogrammed veers
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away from the Givens. I think this is cheap trick.
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Yeah, that's a great trick. You don't just say, oh, I'm not
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picking that song because oh, they're better stuff out there,
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You know, like they're popular because these songs are they're.
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Created bar mitzvahs. Let's let's like not lie to
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ourselves like, but I also. I also think like, you know,
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this is one of those bands where where those songs that they
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think they know they should go back and listen because they're
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better than they think they. Are man, they are dude, so.
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Shoot 57, I'm you know what? I'm going to take all the
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pressure off of myself and I'm going with 10.
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Wow. Imagine that you.
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Know how cool would that be? Like we're in a like a special
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situation here. If we just hit the 10 and we're
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done, you know where that 10? Becomes.
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That would be cool. And then?
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I don't have to do any work you don't have.
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To. Do anything.
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I was like do nothing. And we're just at.
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Least if you take. If you take 11, at least if you
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take 11 you get the opportunity to make fun.
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I want to put money on the birds.
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Just now so you can't, you can't be upset.
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Yeah. So.
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All right, 10-5 and seven. It looks like we're going to
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take a quick pause and on the other side of it, we are going
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to play the game Jack. It's the program.
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And with that, the name of the game is deprogram.
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The three of us have come through the selection of the The
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Cheap Trick discography that we have plucked out 20 songs that
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are now going to mash together in an attempt to create a top 10
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starter kit for you. In case you I've never listened
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to Cheap Trick, How dare you. Yeah, you're very dare you vile.
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Human beings like. Also, literally there is.
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No way you haven't. You gotta go to a Sweet 16 like
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I mean. You ever like, listen to the
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radio? All right, I'm starting here.
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We, we. We.
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Specifically, put in the. Live version and this is the
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right call and I want you to want me.
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Let's just get. It out of the way Randy do.
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You have it. Oh Gee, I left it off.
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I really like some of the. I want you.
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To want. Me.
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That's all on that track. Because that's on on that track
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is the introduction to surrender.
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Yeah, which like. Spoilers might just make this
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list. Yeah, who knows?
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Gee, there's. No way to know.
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Look, there's nowhere, nowhere else.
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I mean, the only other place you can start is surrender.
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And you know, normally I play a, play a clip of the song here.
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I'm not going to do that. I don't have my setup to do that
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Brandy, do we? Just want to get the the three
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hours, yeah. Yeah, sure.
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So I'll you know what, I'll I'll say the other one and used his
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mind because I think that was my favorite song, Dream Police,
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because we got the fucking yacht rock caps and it literally,
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yeah, Chris was unable to get one.
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Got in a little late but like oh wait.
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I missed first pitch, only I was not late.
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I will. You were late, late.
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Enough to not get a caps. But it's, it's the fucking dream
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Police album, the album cover where they're wearing fucking
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guys. We can't.
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Stress this enough, they gave away the hats that are worn on
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the cover of Dream Place on the day we came.
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Like how perfect is that we? Didn't plan it.
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You need to go. I when I bought our Mets
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tickets, I said, guys, I'm not going to believe this.
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It's Yeah, Rock Cafe. And they had a band playing in
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center field that we watched. They were playing newbie
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brothers. AW Duties, of course, got to
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play newbies. I'm sure they played Africa.
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You should have heard it. We didn't play because of yacht
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rock. Yeah.
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That was the karaoke song. I wasn't in the theme the Mets
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were losing, so I didn't care. Yeah.
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All right, why? Dan Deacon doing the open Yacht
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Rock. Because it doesn't.
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Make sense, people? Come back to that.
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Yeah. You were I'm.
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Serious listen to this If you've never listened to an after the
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fact, listen to this one. We may or may not be watching
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Major League Three if we can figure out a way to get it on
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the screen. Dream Police.
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Yeah, of course I got it. I I.
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I sure have that as well. I Boy, what's going to.
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Represent I'm going to try to throw a curveball.
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Right, I'm going to go with my favorite karaoke song that I
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sing almost every time. It's a little little hit about
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your mom and dad getting older called Surrender.
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Of course. Gee.
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Was this not the first St. Trick song that I ever heard?
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Cool. I mean so.
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I think I think my sevens looking alright.
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Not bad so far. I mean, these were very clearly
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the like the far and away answers that I got on the on
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and. By the way genuinely surrenders
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the top ten song all time. I'm not even joking.
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It's that. How many times is it?
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Has it been covered? Dude, it just we did, we did.
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The three of us did Less Than Jake, right they?
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Have a great cover, yeah. Like, it is just the perfect
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kick out the jams rock'n'roll song.
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Yeah. And it's weird.
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The topic's weird. Rachel, I know you're listening
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right now. I know that you don't think it's
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weird. I think it's weird.
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It's like it's like a topic you don't hear.
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You don't hear like a cool K out the jams song about like, weird
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interactions with your parents. Like, that's kind of
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interesting. And also they they took the
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ending of that song and used it for That 70s Show song.
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No. I was talking seriously deadly
21:48
involved in the 70s Show. Yeah, but.
21:49
He showed up and they're like, hey, listen.
21:51
The notable 80s band Cheap Trick was integral to the creation of
21:56
That 70s Show. All right, this one already came
22:01
up, so I'm going to go here like I know Chris has it, so I'll
22:04
I'll take the 2 here. But it also came up a lot, so
22:07
I'm glad that I'm glad that I kept it.
22:10
He's a whore. Yeah, you want to.
22:13
You don't have it. Oh man, I love that song.
22:15
I don't. Think I gave the the self-titled
22:18
enough time the. Song is a Ripper.
22:20
It's so good. Yeah, it it, it's very whole
22:25
positive. I think I'm very slut positive.
22:27
I don't know if this is a slut positive podcast.
22:28
Look, I don't want to speak for the boys.
22:37
Yeah, I got it. That's worth A2.
22:39
Yeah, that's a 2. It'll it'll hang out at least
22:42
for a bit. Where do you want to go, Randy?
22:44
I want to go to the song that like if this isn't their opener,
22:48
every time they take the stage, it's a fucking mistake.
22:53
Hello there, ladies and gentlemen, like I I remember, I
22:58
guess this is what I first like recognized.
23:00
Oh, cheap trick is cheap trick is that hello there and dream
23:04
police were both on rock band or Guitar Hero.
23:07
So like, oh, okay, songs that aren't surrender.
23:11
I want you to want me so. I also want to say Justin just
23:15
started getting into this band and got the hardiest fuck yeah
23:18
When you say hello, you get. It, dude, I mean, that's what
23:25
got me to get it too. Yeah.
23:26
Because again, you know, you know, the the the one songs, but
23:29
then you hear this and it's like, Oh yeah, I I know that.
23:31
Oh fuck yeah. It's like I forgot it's.
23:35
It's such a. It's a simple fucking.
23:37
Song, it's like, hello there, ladies and gentlemen, Are you
23:39
ready to rock? You want to do a number with me?
23:41
And then like a little look at the end, it's over, Yeah.
23:45
Again, simple, great live. Song No.
23:47
Need no need to over overwork it.
23:50
All right Chris, where you want to go?
23:51
I want to do tune. That I probably that might just
23:54
be in the bin, but I want I just love it off of heaven tonight,
23:58
which has got the most I got to say.
24:01
This band in general has the most remarkable album covers
24:04
like they they are. They're just like the least self
24:08
aware photographs in the history of time and it's absolutely
24:11
incredible. I'm going with Stiff
24:14
Competition, the most rocking song on that record in my
24:17
opinion. I.
24:17
Didn't have that one. I got you.
24:18
Oh. You do.
24:19
Let's go. I got you, love.
24:22
This show. Well.
24:23
I loved heaven. Tonight I spent a lot of heaven.
24:25
Tonight it's an. Amazing.
24:26
Yeah. It's the only one I own.
24:27
Yeah. Stiff competition gets that too,
24:32
baby. And.
24:33
Honestly, if I if I got the win, this would be the one I forced.
24:36
Like I love this all that much. Yeah, OK.
24:38
Yeah. All right.
24:41
Step down to me, huh? Let.
24:43
Me see if I got one that kind of made the rounds online Yeah.
24:51
How about California, man? Yep, we'd be.
24:54
Wrong or not have it, you really have to have that.
24:56
I love that. He's not as.
24:59
Possible I'm a California. Man, it might be a.
25:02
Cover. I know you guys have cover
25:03
issues. I feel like I heard somewhere
25:05
it's a cover. I don't give a damn.
25:06
It's cheap trick. Let's go.
25:07
Yeah. Sounds like them.
25:09
Well, that's the thing, you know, I have, I only have cover
25:12
issues if if #1 there's no room for them, right?
25:17
Like sometimes like there's other songs that are just or
25:21
which happened here if it doesn't sound enough like the
25:24
band well. They also did an Elvis cover
25:26
online. Oh.
25:26
Yes, it's originally by the move.
25:28
It is in fact the cover. But who the?
25:29
Hell knows I don't give a damn. This is this song is a is a
25:32
cheap trick song. I don't give a damn what.
25:33
Elvis song did they cover? They covered Oh, I listened to
25:37
it today, not. Crazy little thing.
25:39
Oh, that's true. Oh, don't grow.
25:41
Don't be gold. Yeah, like I'm not going to take
25:43
that second. Line.
25:49
Just like that. We're at your five, Randy.
25:51
I would even breaking a sweat. Yeah.
25:54
And there's still a song that is a is a Gimme.
25:56
There's still one more Gimme. Yeah.
25:58
I'll let you take the Gimme, you know, here's a good one that I
26:04
like you. You talked about songs that
26:06
like, fit the moment of today. This one for me kind of fit the
26:09
moment of today. Go to raise hell.
26:13
I love that you took that. I don't have it though.
26:14
I. Got it.
26:15
I got. It I don't know why I don't
26:19
Ripper. Absolute Ripper.
26:23
That's the. Dumbest song I've ever liked,
26:26
but. It goes on about four minutes
26:28
too. I feel bad about.
26:30
Myself when I RIP I head bang the entire time.
26:33
That's. What I was talking about taking
26:35
some of the metal songs, yeah. Yeah, no going to raise hell.
26:39
You already know what it sounds like if you haven't heard it.
26:41
Yep. That's that's the song.
26:44
Simple cheap trick. Oh, now I see why I had a tough
26:48
time with dream police. Like in a good way.
26:49
Look, I got a lot from it. Oh, it's.
26:52
It's a great record, yeah. I see what happened.
26:55
That is, that is on. That record, that is what?
26:58
Great hats, great hats, great tunes.
27:00
They have 4. Phenomenal records for Main
27:03
Color downtown. Yeah, all.
27:04
Right, I'm going to be I'll, I'll bump this out a little bit.
27:06
I'm going to do more of a ballad that I bet will just be me.
27:12
One moment I so I'll do it. I don't think we have anything
27:15
lap of luxury I'm going to do. All we need is a dream.
27:18
No, no, that kind of that record was tough for me, dude.
27:22
I love it. It's so bad.
27:25
It's I have I have picked 4 songs.
27:27
It's really. Hard.
27:27
I'm just. Going to be ripping those songs
27:29
out then. I mean, we got one from that
27:30
that we're definitely going to take.
27:32
Yeah, of course, yeah. But.
27:33
It's just like. It's.
27:36
Not cheap trick. It doesn't sound, I'm sorry,
27:38
cheap. Trick, I'm sorry I put on All we
27:39
need is a dream and walk down the street and don't feel like
27:41
you're inside of a movie. I blame you.
27:43
I blame you if you're wrong. I meant to say I dare you.
27:45
And I said I blame you. I blame.
27:47
You do that all right. First one in the bin, man.
27:52
Hey. Something couldn't be good,
27:54
something had to be Not a perfect rock'n'roll song, that's
27:56
true. I guess I'm into my trials.
28:07
Like who know the ones I'm not as sure about.
28:10
I'll say right, Right. Yeah.
28:11
Start out. How about you're all talk?
28:19
I do not have that. Let me pull that up.
28:21
I don't think I know that in color.
28:24
Yeah, no, I didn't take it all. Right bend, bend, a lot of that.
28:28
That I pushed forward. Oh yeah.
28:30
This one is good, though. Right off that, the disco drums
28:33
in the beginning, I knew exactly what it was, right?
28:35
Yeah. OK, I know.
28:36
I know what you're talking about, All right in the.
28:37
Bin it's got like a. Weird, weird country riff.
28:40
Yeah. This is a cool song, Yeah.
28:42
All right, Randy, where you want to go?
28:46
Pool, I'll be with you tonight. Yeah.
28:50
I think I cut that one second getting back to my list.
28:56
I did cut that OK. Well, it's got two.
28:59
Could be alive. Shockingly few songs left.
29:05
Yeah, I mean, you've hit just about everyone that's been
29:08
playing. I know, right?
29:11
Why are my functions not working?
29:15
OK, my search function is not working.
29:21
Usually I do this before. I'll be with you tonight.
29:26
There you are, Randy and Justin. All right.
29:29
Where you want to go, Chris? I want to just feel like I'm
29:32
inside of a Nintendo game, and I want to bring it back to all my
29:35
movie lovers. And we're going with my wings,
29:37
baby. Yeah.
29:38
Let's go. Literally.
29:40
Just sounds like it should be a song in Contra.
29:43
It's so sick, but it makes you feel tough, you know?
29:47
It's the least tough song of all time.
29:53
Like, yeah, that's. That's a that's a montage of
29:55
some nerd like getting ready for a street fight.
29:58
He's going to have to get his ass kicked, I wonder.
30:00
Sometimes if like, I interpret the world completely different
30:03
than everybody else, because to me this is the toughest song of
30:05
all time. But you grew up.
30:09
Watching. 80s movies so that you know, this generation probably
30:14
looks at like well. Blow your hair out, Get a
30:18
guitar. All right?
30:20
They tell you guys. My my students say that
30:22
Professor Schultz listens to guitar music.
30:26
What is that? It's just like music, please.
30:29
What's not guitar music? Yeah, right.
30:32
All right. And just like that, we're up at
30:34
6:00 again. Barely, honestly.
30:38
Yeah. I still 123.
30:41
Yeah, there's a couple 6-7. 8:00 and 9:00 I still have a good
30:44
nine left. I don't.
30:45
I just not sure any of them are the the big swings now.
30:53
I can't believe I've been sitting on this one for so long.
30:55
How about baby loves to rock? It did not take that one.
30:58
I do. Not have it.
31:00
That one is specifically chosen for the moment Baby loves to
31:06
rock. I listened to that and I'm like,
31:09
well, that sounds like this road trip I.
31:12
Was going to say it's because Randy's baby is here also.
31:14
True. Also true.
31:16
He does. All right.
31:18
Where do you want to go, Randy? Have we played?
31:21
Anything about the one-on-one album yet?
31:25
I don't even know. I don't think so.
31:27
I was about to. Do 1 to do 1.
31:30
Let's do the title track one O 1 don't.
31:32
Have it. I got it.
31:34
I'll. Save saved.
31:36
Got a two there. Just a fun chanting song also.
31:40
Talk about extraordinary album covers.
31:43
They all look like sheep. They all look like it's amazing
31:46
and they have these faces on. Like, not that they don't know
31:49
what's going on, that they genuinely don't know anything,
31:52
but. Although the faces that they're.
31:53
Making are just like I barely exist in this moment.
31:57
It was tough for me to like, gather was Robin Zander like a
32:00
heartthrob or something? Because anytime I look at the
32:03
every time I look at a photo of him, he looks like a 13 year old
32:06
child. Sorry, he really does.
32:08
He looks like a 13 year old child.
32:09
You just don't. Understand the 80s I maybe it.
32:11
Yeah, that's that's the thing. I'll do another tune from that
32:15
record. Let's do If you want my love.
32:17
I didn't take it. I didn't.
32:19
Either man, dude, it's. The most Beatles song they have.
32:21
I figured people would be down with that.
32:23
Somebody else I disagree with that Paul McCartney.
32:25
Melody, the whole the melody I. Disagree with that?
32:27
There's another. I'll play it next.
32:29
There's another that is very much in tune with The Beatles.
32:33
Somebody actually ants. I don't know if it was that
32:35
song, but they answered that exact answer OK.
32:38
Yeah, there there's. Definitely like I think vocal
32:41
melodies definitely pulling a lot from Paul McCartney's vocal
32:43
melodies. They go like and to your point,
32:45
guitar melodies, a lot of things from The Who and I think
32:48
actually in color has a lot of who influence.
32:50
I know you said later it came like I hear a lot of it on in
32:53
call, like the second record right away.
32:55
Sure I can do. That and then later, I think
32:57
Rick Nielsen worked with John Lennon later.
32:59
Oh, right on. That makes perfect sense to me,
33:01
yeah. All right, I'll take a
33:04
one-on-one track. Since we're all there, how about
33:06
looking out for #1? That was a good one, I.
33:09
Didn't have it, yeah. OK, that.
33:13
Was a cut as we sat here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
33:17
Brutal. That's in fact I.
33:19
Cut down to 19 by mistake, but I also always forgot to put
33:22
surrender on the list, so we're doing great.
33:23
There we go. All right, Randy.
33:28
All right, so the song that I saw nothing but Beatles
33:31
influence on and literally has a fucking line from The Beatles in
33:35
is from the first record mixer Mr. Taxman Mr. Steve, because he
33:39
mixes in Mr. Taxman Mr. Keith. I got to tell you something,
33:44
dude, That song is so good that it hurt my heart to not put it
33:49
aw. If.
33:50
I let myself. I would have just put the self
33:52
teller record. I like it that much.
33:54
I wish I had it. I don't.
33:56
It should be on there. I feel bad too, because that was
33:59
an answer we got a lot. Really.
34:01
Yeah, wow, Yeah. So.
34:04
That's like a clear and incredible.
34:07
Song it doesn't. Sound like The Beatles tacks,
34:09
man. It's not fucking what's the
34:12
what's the band I'm taking up now?
34:14
What you give is what you get. What's the band that we did?
34:21
What's the show I was on? What was their other song?
34:24
What was their popular song? A Town Called Malice.
34:27
OK what? What band is that?
34:29
I got a computer in front of me. I am like right there,
34:32
professional. Podcasters, boys, this is good
34:34
I. Know why can't I remember this
34:36
fucking man's and they were great I loved them we just.
34:39
Did them relatively recently. Like last year?
34:41
Yeah, ladies and gentlemen. I want let the record show I was
34:44
not on this show of the band that is you were.
34:46
Not you were not. I bet I know them about as well
34:50
as you guys do. It's.
34:54
Sitting right there, that's what's the jam.
34:56
The. Jam the jam's cool the jam.
34:58
'S awesome. Look how cool we are.
35:00
We keep the answer. I'll, I'll, I'll keep it.
35:02
I'll keep on that record, though.
35:05
I, I originally had all three tunes.
35:06
I had Taxman as well. But I I, I I cut it and kept.
35:10
Daddy should have stayed in school.
35:12
That's a fun one. I didn't take it though.
35:14
I can't save you there. It's so.
35:15
Dopey that I had to keep it. It's like the dopest song ever.
35:20
I think we're at the point where we do like one more round and
35:23
then don't. Oh my.
35:24
Sevens in play, babe, we got. I mean, we're right.
35:26
There I have a bunch. There's a Guinea.
35:28
There's one more Guinea left. I think if the Guinea is the
35:30
only thing we get, I'm in. I'm I'm money, bitches.
35:33
Yeah, that Gimme the Gimme though.
35:35
Yeah, it's not the Gimme, I bet. But you think, Oh, did I miss?
35:41
10. I probably did OK all right you
35:45
mentioned. The song I'm talking about
35:46
earlier, I think you got it. Oh.
35:48
Really. Yeah.
35:50
Are you sure? I thought.
35:52
I thought I heard it too. OK, because I don't know.
36:00
Let me try. How about hot love?
36:05
No. OK, I should have kept that for
36:07
the dump out. I knew it.
36:09
All right, Randy. Oh man, there's a lot of songs I
36:13
can still play. No Southern girls.
36:21
Easy. Hell yeah.
36:23
Hell yeah. Southern girls love this hug.
36:26
I don't got it, but that was yet again one that came up a that
36:29
was. The one that could have screwed
36:31
me on my Saturn, I was like, if everyone has Southern girls, I'm
36:33
done. All right, Chris.
36:39
I'm going to go with. Do I have to specify if it's
36:42
muticon? I don't know.
36:45
Well, I mean. You guys, I mean the guy who
36:46
makes the rules of sitting next to him.
36:47
Do I specify this Buddha Con I? Mean not technically.
36:52
I mean it doesn't matter. I went.
36:53
With the Buddha con version of Ain't That a Shame because the
36:55
drum intro is out of this world Cool.
36:58
I'm happy if we just go with Ain't That a Shame?
37:00
Yeah, I didn't. Take it OK you.
37:01
Didn't take it, Yeah. All right, I don't have either.
37:05
Well, you should have. Well, you know, sometimes,
37:11
sometimes we miss them all right.
37:13
So let me start 9 left. We don't really.
37:16
I have. 9 left, I have 9. Left I only have like.
37:18
Three man, four shit. Yeah.
37:22
I've. Been out on this?
37:23
I suppose I have. Six.
37:24
I'm going to. Start at the top here or top of
37:27
our list from in colour. How about oh Caroline?
37:31
No, Nope, I still have in colour left in play I.
37:35
Surprisingly, I don't. Really.
37:37
OK, I must. Have just there.
37:39
Super great songs out there, all right.
37:41
From heaven tonight. How about on the radio?
37:44
Now I'm a. Sucker for songs that talk about
37:48
being in or on radio? You're going to get me every
37:52
time. All right, let's go to Dream
37:56
Police. How about writing on the wall?
37:58
No, that was that was a late cut too.
38:00
You're hitting all my late cuts. Yeah, don't.
38:02
Ever. And then?
38:04
Last but not least, from one-on-one, I want you.
38:10
No. No, I didn't take that I so
38:12
that's. It where it's it's six, then
38:14
it's 6 nobody. Nobody got it.
38:17
You didn't have. The flame dude.
38:19
I did not have the flame, man. I did not have the flame that's.
38:23
Crazy, I should have got my 7:00.
38:26
Well, that's fine all. Right.
38:27
So do you guys both have the flame on that?
38:29
Yeah, you want to dump out. Randy Shine, dump out.
38:32
How many you got? I got 5.
38:34
All right. Yeah, you don't bet.
38:35
All right. I got let Go.
38:37
No, I got the Flame. Yes.
38:40
I got two more from Dream Police.
38:41
I got Way of the World. Yes.
38:43
Cool. I got voices.
38:45
That was a late cut. Yeah.
38:47
All right, all right. And then I went one.
38:49
I went with one from All Shook Up.
38:50
I know we didn't really talk about that record.
38:51
We just got back some Ripper I had.
38:54
I had to at least bring it up. I only took one off that record
38:57
and. Then the tune I wanted to talk
38:58
about it is very fast and loose, talking about the topic, trigger
39:01
warning topic of suicide. I don't want to talk too much
39:04
about it. It's a really fun sounding song
39:07
that is really irresponsible with this lyrics, but I'll be
39:10
the same. Yeah, obviously don't have it,
39:13
but like to be fair, that came up quite a bit.
39:17
Yeah, I. Mean it's it's a it's a classic
39:19
tune tuned by them. They play it all the time.
39:21
Yeah. I, I don't, I don't want to bang
39:23
on about it because there's nothing we can intelligently
39:25
say. We're not therapists.
39:27
It's a tough topic and it's a little bit flippant.
39:30
That's all I really want to say about it, but I wanted to bring
39:32
it up. It's fair.
39:33
Yeah. All right.
39:34
I think I got them all. I should have.
39:36
Like 7 left God. Believe.
39:38
Oh no. Let's talk for you.
39:39
Cheap trick bro Big. Eyes clock strikes 10, taking me
39:44
back. Heaven tonight, High Priestess
39:47
Rhythm. OK.
39:48
Quick time to have a date. Yeah, that song is crazy.
39:51
That song is crazy but. That's the one.
39:55
That's fucking demonic, right? Dude, I'm so glad that exists
40:02
because everyone to say this, it's not going to get you into
40:04
this band. No, the first thing you should
40:06
do is go listen to the song Heaven tonight.
40:13
What else? I got high priests of rhythmic
40:15
noise. Oh, La La.
40:18
And she's tight. All right, that one came up a
40:21
lot too. She's tight, that one.
40:23
He has a good vocal range in that.
40:26
All right, So what do we do here?
40:29
Let's check the name of my first.
40:31
We got 6. I want you to want me live at
40:34
Buddha. Can Buddha Con gene police
40:38
surrender? Hello there California man and
40:40
mighty wings are in. So which one was I the most
40:49
wrong on the flame? The flames got to be on it's.
40:53
Got to be on because I don't like.
40:55
It, by the way, no, yeah. Yeah, it's a horrible.
40:57
Song. It's a horrible song, but I
40:59
think it just like goes to show that even a band like cheap
41:02
trick that was established was still looking to like be
41:05
relevant in the late 80s. Like OK, it it sounds like St.
41:08
almost fired. That's what it sounds like.
41:10
I'm saying that that sound of that like 80s synth pop and flat
41:15
out bad song. But I think it needs to be there
41:17
as a cautionary tale. As music historians, it's
41:20
necessary that we put this on the list.
41:24
It's a little seriously. Certified Cheap Trick
41:27
aficionados the most knowledgeable people in room for
41:30
3/5 at the Holiday Inn Express. All right, so let's let's look
41:36
at these other twos here we got he's a whore.
41:38
Stiff competition going to raise hell.
41:39
I'll be with you tonight one-on-one.
41:41
Southern girls way of the world. So many good songs, yeah.
41:45
Three of. Those are in.
41:46
We got to pick three more. Yeah, I I got us.
41:49
I I want he's a whore, but I got a stump for stiff competition.
41:52
I mean, it rips. It's just like a if you had a
41:56
bear trying to attack you, you could blast if competition bear
41:59
would not run away, but he'd probably chill out.
42:00
He'd be like, dude, you know what I could do better?
42:06
What do you think? You were the odd man out there,
42:08
Andy. I got no.
42:09
Problems. Yeah, I'm not going to.
42:10
I'm not going to argue. Yeah, there's no.
42:14
Really heavy cheap tricks. Simple bandits, simple lists.
42:21
All right, So like. He's a whore.
42:23
Is our only self-titled representation alive?
42:25
Is is it Gotta is gotta go. If anything, this.
42:28
This my fuck up could be another choice instead, you know what I
42:32
mean you see? It's got to go in or it's.
42:34
It's my favorite tune from that record and it's my favorite
42:36
record by them. So yeah, I, I, I will have zero
42:40
say on this last one. I'm just I'm steamrolling this.
42:43
That brings us up to 9, right? Let me see what you got here.
42:48
I want you to want me. No, I mean in the alive tools,
42:53
yeah, going to raise. Hell, I'll be with you tonight
42:55
one-on-one Southern girls. Way of the world, do we?
42:58
Have any one-on-one songs that are in WE?
43:00
Don't should we correct that? It feels like that's a good
43:04
record. One on one's a great song.
43:06
Oh, there you go. Make it again.
43:08
Let's not, let's not make this more difficult than it needs to
43:11
be. Yeah.
43:11
Exactly and like. If you like ballads, fuck off.
43:14
You got it. You got 1, you got 1, you got.
43:18
Your ballad, you got the flame one.
43:19
All right, so here we go. I want you to want me.
43:21
Dream Police surrender. Hello there, California man.
43:25
Mighty wings, the flame. Stiff competition.
43:27
He's a whore and one. I want a whore.
43:33
Which one is the one there, Andy?
43:35
It's got to be one of the one of the two at least, right?
43:37
Yeah. For sure.
43:41
I mean do. Not overthink this.
43:43
No, it's like it's surrender, yes.
43:47
Dude. Right I.
43:50
Love trade police, but I was. Like, is he going to try to be
43:54
cool? No.
43:57
It's it's the most obvious pick in the world.
43:59
There you go, ladies and. Gentlemen, it's high 40 minutes.
44:02
But, you know, this goes back to the point, like, I think it's
44:06
important to pick surrender here because it's a much better song
44:10
than people realize. Yeah.
44:11
Dude, yeah, it's. Rules.
44:12
I think because it's been in the lexicon, like for our entire
44:17
lives, that people kind of cast it off as just a song that they
44:22
know. Don't go back and listen to it,
44:25
man. Like, give it that.
44:27
Give the time it deserves and recognize man.
44:30
And recognize how much they influence That 70s Show.
44:36
Well, we have done it. We've turned you in on to I'm
44:38
going to say this again right here up front.
44:41
This episode alone coming up this after the fact is probably
44:44
worth your dollar like from the jump from Patreon because if we
44:50
get Major League 3 on the television, this is not a joke.
44:57
We are going to try to watch that.
44:58
But if if nothing else, there's going to be great Baltimore
45:02
story. So patreon.com/oh, hi, Justin
45:04
gets you in a dollar, gets you in the door.
45:07
It also gets a deeper program before the rest of the world
45:09
that gets you all these after the fact conversations that gets
45:12
you, you know, very ever so occasional.
45:16
Oh hi, Justin Pod and you know whatever else it gets you like
45:19
access to our discord channel, Legion of super Discord and
45:22
certain channels in it. If you kick up to the $5 level,
45:25
you get like some secret channels just saying hint hint,
45:28
hint. That would be cool if you would
45:30
like to help, but don't get the scratch.
45:32
I understand man times is tough, but you want to join the discord
45:36
that would be super appreciated as well.
45:38
Come on and a legion of super discord.
45:40
You can ask for a link and I'll get you the link come on in
45:42
we're growing a tree. That's for real.
45:44
We're growing a tree in there. I mean, it's not a real tree,
45:47
but we are growing a tree. We're growing a.
45:48
Tree. It's for real, but it's not
45:50
real. But we're growing a tree.
45:52
I mean, we really are growing a tree.
45:53
It's just not a real tree. That's why he's.
45:54
The host folks? Yeah, we are.
45:56
Counting that's happening in there, there's music leagues,
46:00
there's if you want to come be on the show, there's there's a
46:03
channel for you to come in and say, hey, I'd like to be on the
46:06
show. I'd like to talk about this
46:07
band. You can put together a panel and
46:09
all that stuff is happening there.
46:11
That would be very cool if you did that.
46:13
Other than that man, I feel like we're a podcast.
46:16
Like that's the simplest part of this whole thing.
46:18
Subscribe, rate, comment. Leaving a review on at the
46:22
podcast would be awesome. Leaving a comment on Spotify
46:25
would be cool because I can go hey man you're overthinking
46:29
Cheap trick. You can't see what I did to do
46:32
that. We probably did overthink cheap
46:35
trick like just on surrender. Like, yeah, that's true.
46:39
You'll get there. With surrender, but look
46:42
they're. Probably like cheap trick die
46:43
yards out there. Then I'm like Oh my God, missed
46:46
all shook off they. Need.
46:47
They need to relax. They need to calm down.
46:52
You didn't. Right, right, right, right.
46:55
So I mean, we could have drove to Rockford, but we.
46:57
Could have. I got it, but we weren't going
47:01
too. But we weren't shouting around
47:03
so. Rockford pieces.
47:06
So check all that stuff out. Would love to have you aboard.
47:09
But man, honestly, the best way to help me, and I'm not being
47:12
this is for real. Tell somebody that you listen to
47:15
the show. Hey, I listen to the program
47:16
too. You should too.
47:17
I would appreciate that more than I could ever put in the
47:19
words. And with that cheap trick, I'm
47:22
in love with people. We'll see you next week.
47:24
Goodbye.