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The Jersey Devil - Remote Viewing the Legendary Beast with Donny Cho · The Cryptid Huntress

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  right, Okay, so today I have Donnie Cho in the studio with me.
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  He is from New Jersey, and he recommended an interesting remote viewing target.
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  It's the Jersey Devil. Okay, so we're going to be talking about
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  the Jersey Devil tonight. The Jersey Devil is a legendary cryptid said to inhabit
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  the forests of the Pine barrens in South Jersey. The creature is often described
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  as flying biped with hoofs, but there are several variations. The common description
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  is that of a bipedal kangaroo like creature with a horse or goat like head,
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  leathery at lightweens, horns, small arms like a little t rex,
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  with claude hands, legs and cloven hoofs and a fork till. It's reported
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  to move quickly and is often described as emitting a high pitched, blood curdling
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  scream. There have been over two hundred modern day sightings of this creature.
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  I've remote viewed it and at rebothewed two different targets of this and one of
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  them was actually of a family who thinks that they encountered one at their home.
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  And I have Jason. I'm not Jason. I have Donnie Choe here
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  of Jason McLean questions everything over at Texas front Ports. Donnie is a co
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  host over there, and he joined me not too long ago to talk about
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  the Beasts of Jevudon. So tonight I'm going to bring up Donnie, so
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  please help me. Welcome to the show, Donnie too, Hey, hey,
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  Donnie, Oh my gosh, thank you so much for being here.
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  This is going to be of course, of course, I've got my boys,
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  the Crypted Warfare guys up in here. What's up, fellas? Um.
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  Yes, everybody goes subscribe to their YouTube channel and listen to them on
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  podcast. They're they're the best, some of the best, all of y'all
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  are the best in the chat and watching today. Um. But yeah,
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  so Donnie, you grew up in New Jersey, right, Yeah, I
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  grew up in central Jersey near where Princeton is. And growing up in Jersey,
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  Well, first of all, we're the only state with our own state
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  demon demon. Oh I guess, I guess this is a demon. Huh
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  yeah, well, yeah, so that's our Um. I've been to the
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  Pine Barrens myself a few times. It's like on the southern it's like in
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  southern New Jersey. Um, it's bigger than you would think, because New
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  Jersey is pretty small on a map, but this pine barons themselves are real
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  thick. It's hard to navigate, and it's about like a million one point
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  one million acres. There's a lot of wilderness, and it's it's a pretty
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  gnarly place for multiple reasons. As kids, we took field trips there,
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  you know, just like a like a naturalist trip. And I remember,
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  just as an eight year old kid with my classmates, the tour guy would
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  tell us all about the legend of the Jersey Devil. It freaked us all
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  pretty hard. Um. Okay, so yeah, everyone in Jersey just knows
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  about the Jersey Devil. It's it's pretty much it's almost our state mask all
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  actually for hockey, it is our mascot. But oh, I speaking of
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  which I have, I think I pulled a picture up because you guys,
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  actually do you do have it? You have it? You have a demon
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  for a mascot. Huh yep, that's Jersey for you. Wow. Wow,
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  that's that's that's wild, super wild. Well, this story doesn't just
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  start with the sports team. Okay, they didn't just come up with us
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  out of nowhere. This story goes back to was the seventeen hundreds, I
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  think, um they believe. Yeah, the original story is takes place in
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  seventeen thirty five of the Leeds family, but yeah, seventeen thirty five,
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  it's it's goes pretty far back. And there's someone that's at least has a
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  famous brother, Napoleon Bonaparte brother encountered this thing, allegedly, Joseph Bonaparte,
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  he came face to face with it. That was Yeah, he wasn't living
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  in New Jersey at the time because he was an exile because of course his
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  brother. This was in eighteen twenty and he went out on a hunting expedition.
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  At first they found the tracks, and he was actually tracking the tracks
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  because he couldn't make sense of what it was because, according to him,
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  it looked like a horse, but it was walking on two legs because it
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  was like horse hooves. And then he noticed one of the hose was bigger
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  than the other one. And as he was tracking it, he hears a
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  noise behind him, turns around and he is face to face with this thing,
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  and he is so frozen in territory. He doesn't even realize that he's
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  holding a rifle. He could have shot it. Yeah, like he was
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  just just locked in. And they stared at each other for a few seconds,
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  and then a thing like let out the blood curdling roar, beat its
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  wings and then flew off, and yeah, Napoleon's older brother Joseph it up.
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  That's one of the attributes of this thing, is it? It It
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  screams, or it makes a high pitch sound, or it bills whatever it
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  does. Now, I do have an interesting picture, Hey, Craig.
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  Craig low Range Overland is one of my teammates. He's in the chat tonight.
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  Thank you for being here, Craig. Okay, I have an interesting
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  picture. This is what I use for the show art for the YouTube thumbnail
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  today or last night. This thing looks this is how it's described. Actually,
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  it almost has like a goat or a kangaroo like face, okay,
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  with bat wings, horns, a goat or dog body. Sometimes it kind
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  of depends on who's telling the story or who's describing it, but it almost
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  has like goat light legs and a reptilian snakelike tail. Is how it was.
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  Four descriptions are all over the place with this thing, but the one
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  that some of the commonalities are the leathery wings, bipedal. It's got like
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  a long muzzle or face kind of like people describe it like a horse or
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  like a dog like face, long tail. I mean, this thing just
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  looks like it's out of a comic book, really, doesn't it. It's
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  it looks creepy. I mean, it just doesn't sound like any other cryptid
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  I've ever heard of. It's almost like ten cryptids and one. Yeah it
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  is. Actually, Yeah, it's like a flying dog man. It's like
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  a goat man with wings. Yeah, I mean that's what I think when
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  I see it. But the first, the first thing that I noticed about
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  this face is that it looks a lot like this bat that I've seen.
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  It's like an African hammerhead bat. Okay, and uh and let me show
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  you so you can see the face here. Of course, this hammerhead bat
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  does not have horns on it. Okay, yeah, it looks a lot
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  like that picture though the artist rendition. Um, that's a big old bat.
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  These Yeah, there's a person holding it. That's a brave guy,
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  it is. It is, well, there, that's an there. It's
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  an Africa. Those are African bats. But it does have like an elongated
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  snout looking nose. It has um big eyes. Um. The ears kind
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  of poke out. It could look like horns at night. You know,
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  these are nocturnal, I believe yea um, but it has the bat wings
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  and all that kind of stuff. And you know. But but back in
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  the seventeen hundreds, how common would it have been to have an African bat
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  here. I don't think it's been too common. But you know, there
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  was a slave trade going on at the time from what I've read in history
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  books and everything, and there could have potentially been after you know, coming
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  from Africa, there could have been bats that had been on board of some
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  of the boats perhaps. I mean, I don't know if that's reaching a
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  little bit, but I think so. I think it's a possibility. Yeah,
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  I think so. Um, I don't look at that thing. That
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  looks like a pretty good dead ringer for it if you ask me, it
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  does here, you know. And I also as really, I found this
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  other picture. I had to. I'll show this. It has nothing to
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  do with this. This is an anomaly. There's a two headed one taxiderm
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  somewhere that I found. Okay, if it's not already weird and creepy enough,
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  we have a two headed hammer head bat taxidermed in some museum. Okay,
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  you blew it up big enough, it would make for a pretty good
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  Godzilla Ellen, that's for sure, it would. It would. But yeah,
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  but that that thing right there looks a whole lot like I mean,
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  and here here's some pictures. I mean that that's the same head, right
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  it looks very similar like some people just scribed as looking like a demonic kangaroo.
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  De Yeah, that's when you hear a lot um well, I mean
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  some people this this is one of the pictures that goes around the internet.
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  Right here, it looks like a flying goat flying goat, or I like
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  to think of it as an evil Pegasus, the evil Pegasus, the greatest
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  of all time, right, the goat? Yeah? Um, but I
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  mean, you know, if you think about it, it doesn't like a
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  bat. And I mean bats have sharp little teeth and stuff, so I
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  mean this one does. I don't know what the heck that is the thing
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  is though. This thing was described as being pretty big, um, and
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  we will go more into that later because we're talking earlier about some encounter stories.
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  Um. And they have a large wingspan too, so you know,
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  I don't know, maybe I shouldn't show that one. Yeah, yeah,
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  anyway, Yeah, it shows it's flashing, let's just splashing literally, Okay,
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  but but yeah, so let's talk about some of how people have described
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  what this thing looks like. Right, you kind of already did. But
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  how tall is it and how much does it weigh? According to people's modern
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  day reports? Do you know do you have the information that was that one
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  modern day one we were talking about, and then yeah, we'll get into
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  where the lady who described she and her son saw it. Oh here's another
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  thing. A lot of these settings were in groups, right, There were
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  a lot of settings and it was described as being between like it was like
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  bigger than man size, and people estimated it to weigh between two to four
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  hundred pounds. So yeah, it could have looked like those bats, but
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  I don't know about any four hundred pound bats. Two hundred and the four
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  hundred pounds is really big. That's the size of a large human, okay,
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  or a regular size human to a large size. So that's that's that's
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  really big. That's really big, especially like Okay, so flying creatures especially
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  because usually things that fly biologically the reason why they're able to stay in the
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  airs because they have like hollowed bones, so their bodies are kind of designed
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  to be lighter. Right, So if something that's flying is like two to
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  four hundred pounds, that means that thing is huge. Yes, oh my
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  gosh, it is huge. Well, um, absolutely. And there's been
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  over two hundred reported sightings Donnie, over the in just modern years. I
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  think that was over the past twenty years. Yeah, in twenty years,
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  or about two hundred sightings. Um. And if you live in that area,
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  A lot of people who live in the Pine Barons area, they report
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  hearing the noises at night all the time, all the time. It's so
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  common. Everyone you meet from the Pine Barons like will invariably be like,
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  oh yeah, that was that one time where I heard a weird noise.
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  So many sightings, it's it boggles my mind that it doesn't get talked about
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  more in the com parental community, considering all the number of sightings and people
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  who have claimed to see it on a fairly regular basis too. I mean,
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  it's probably because it's so weird and it's so anomalous. It's not like
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  a big foot or don man or something like that, because you can just
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  put like a label on it and find there you go. We packaged it
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  up in this little, this little box. It's a big foot, you
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  know. This is something that's like a bat goat, you know, snake
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  dogs. People have described seeing a dragon a dragon. Yeah, which is
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  interesting because we have a theory on that, right, So we'll get into
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  that in just a minute as well. Um, okay, well let's yeah,
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  I mean, what are people in Okay, some people who live there?
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  You guys are do you You don't live there currently? Right? Or
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  do ye? No? I actually I kind of I still live near there.
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  I live in Maryland, near Baltimore and there were actually sightings of the
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  See the dog Man's not solely confined or I'm not talking. The Jersey Devil's
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  not solely confined to the Bine barrens. Sightings of the Jersey Devil have occurred
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  around the Delaware Valley area, like there have been sightings of it in like
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  northern Maryland. There have been sightings of it, like around Philadelphia. Camden,
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  New Jersey has had multiple sightings. And yeah, it's just in the
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  general area. But the general the consensus is that it is based out of
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  the Pine barrens. If it is physically living in a place and it is
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  based somewhere, is the Pine barons. I mean, those woods are just
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  so thick. They're just so thick. Is it swampy or is it just
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  woods? It is swampy and it's like real thick woods. Okay, if
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  anyone's ever been there, they can attest to that. Okay, we have.
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  We have several people in chat that live in New Jersey or are from
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  New Jersey, including my friend Marco. Hey, Marco, thank you for
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  being here. Yes, um, okay, so I was I was thinking
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  about getting into my data, but actually I think we should start at the
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  beginning, and let's talk about the history of it and uh, and so
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  we can kind of get like get a foundation for how this got started and
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  uh and kind of we'll kind of see how it's developed into what it is
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  today. And then I'm going to get into my data. Okay. So
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  in eighteenth seventeen thirty five, Mother Leads was her name. This was a
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  family living in in the pine beards in a cabin. They were supposedly very
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  poor, and she was giving birth to her thirteenth child. And by the
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  time you have child number thirteen, you've pretty much had it with kids.
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  So she was just so that she was just like, I hope this next
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  child is a devil. Right, So on the night of its birth,
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  it was like a cold February night. She gave birth to a regular looking
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  baby, but then it started to morph and grow into this creature in front
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  of everyone's eyes. It swiped that one of the midwives and cut her throat
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  open and flew after the chimney. That's the legend. Now, if you
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  go into the actual history of the Leads, that's the name of the family.
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  They were a real family. There was some significance to them. I
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  don't know if you want to go into that now or yeah, absolutely,
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  let h Yeah. So there was a guy named by the name of Daniel
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  Leeds. Now the story is a little fucky because he acted supposed father died
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  in seventeen twenty, so a lot of the dates don't match up. But
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  what a lot of skeptics believe about the Jersey Devil and the history behind it
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  was it was based off a smear campaign against the Lead family because the Leads
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  at the time they came in into the late sixteen hundreds with Daniel Leeds,
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  and his claim to fame was that he started the Farmer's Almanac. Yeah,
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  for a lot of people who live in the countryside and rural areas or who
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  live as farmers. Next to the Bible, that's like the most important book
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  you can have, right is the Farmers Almanac especially started. Yeah, and
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  he was the first publisher of it. At first it was called the American
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  Almanac and then so he was at the time in the Pairing Barrens. It
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  was mostly Quakers living there into the like sixteen eighty sixteen nineties when the when
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  the patriarch of the Leeds family, Daniel Leeds, was there publishing the American
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  Almanac, and he had a major falling out with the Quakers, so like
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  everyone in the area just hated their guts. The reason why Hannafolia was because
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  in his almanac he started incorporating like astrological data. Okay, oh, okay,
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  and the Bicker population didn't like that astrological stuff because they think they were
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  they were probably seen as witches. Bet they were seen as witches. And
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  the mother of the age was described as a witch. Now already okay,
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  I didn't know this part. But the other reason why they were deeply unpopular
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  was because they were loyal to the British crown. Because in America back then
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  you were either pro British Crown or against British Crown. He was very pro
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  British. He was all about the nobility, the aristocracy. This was a
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  rich family actually, and he he actually published one of the very first paranormal
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  books in America in like the sixteen eighty sixteen nineties. He did. He
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  did like all these books and he would write about like Faye and street creatures
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  and angels and demons, which would which made him look more satanic in the
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  eyes of his Quaker neighbors. So one of the ways. Back then,
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  I guess this on someone you didn't like. You know, nowadays we got
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  way more careful ways. Back then you'd be like, oh, he's the
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  product of the devil that you know your mother is a devil. So naturally
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  because everyone hated him. The story of the Leads because it was originally called
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  the Leeds Devil until about nineteen oh nine, where he got changed to the
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  Jersey Devil. Everyone up before that all knew it as the Leads Devil because
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  of Daniel Leeds. Daniel dies in seventeen twenty and he gives his almanac business
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  over to his son, Titan. Right, Titan winds up becoming like the
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  sworn moral enemy of Ben Franklin because the young twenty seven year old Benjamin Franklin
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  started publishing his own farmer's almanac called Poor It was called Poor Richard's Almanac,
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  and he started publishing that to compete with Titan Leads his almanac. He was
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  twenty seven years old at the time and in the very first So the difference
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  with Ben Franklin's Farmer's Almanac was that it wouldn't use astrology. It was mostly
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  like scientific and just just data, right, just just data. The only
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  time he ever used astrology in his actual almanac was in the very first issue
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  where he does an astrological prediction to predict the death of Titan Leeds. He
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  predicts it in like seventeen. But the thing is he does it as a
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  joke because he's basically making fun of Titan leads Is Almanac for having all this
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  astrology in it. And the thing is, Titan les doesn't actually die on
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  that day, but Ben Franklin, because he is such a troll, from
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  that point on, from the point of his predicted death date, he just
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  refers to him as a ghost. People come up to Ben Franklin be like,
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  your prediction didn't come true. Ben Franklin will be like, yay,
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  yeah it did. He's dead. What about the guy none that that's a
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  ghost. That's a ghost of Titan Leeds now, And he would just keep
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  calling him a ghost to the point where it drove Titan Leads insane, Like
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  it drove him mad because he was just like, damn, I'm not a
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  ghost, like he would he would get so angry about it that I guess
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  Ben Franklin thought it hilarious. So throughout the rest of Titan Leeds's life.
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  Ben Franklin just kept referring to him as the ghost of Titan Leeds. Oh
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  my god, well, hey, he was getting referred to by a very
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  famous person. So okay, I'm like, ohone in that area. Okay.
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  So on top of that, there are all these sightings of these creatures
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  in the very area that's owned by the Leeds family, who everyone already hates.
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  So naturally everyone's gonna say, oh, their mother gave birth to it,
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  because that's what they are. They're all devils, right, they're pro
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  British cevils um. So that's because people did have a lot of sightings,
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  right, so naturally, and also their coat of arms, the Leeds family
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  coat of arms, they have these creatures that look a lot like the Jersey
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  Devil. They're like these impish dragon looking things under actual coat of arms they
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  would that they would use to publish, like they used that on the cover
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  of their almanacs. WHOA okay and interesting. The Lead's family David accused of
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  witchcraft, being in league with the devil. They were seen as traders.
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  They were like British Crown stooges. Like people had all this reason to dump
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  all this devil imagery and with the reputation of that family. Wow, this
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  is a whole angle I didn't I've not heard of before. I didn't even
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  know anything about this Jersey devil at all. Actually, Franklin might have started
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  the whole thing. He could have. Yeah, okay, because I got
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  some weird data on this. We're all get into this in a little bit.
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  But that that is fascinating history, Donnie. Thank you so much.
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  Credit for all that. The person who introduced me to that whole history because
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  prior, because for most of my life I thought their original legend, that's
• 24:52
  what I grew up on, like this old witch that gives birth. I
• 24:56
  didn't know about the old Ben Franklin stuff. Person introduced me to all the
• 25:00
  that history was Brian Bowden. If you're out there, Yeah, thank you.
• 25:03
  That's awesome. Well you invited Brian to come on the show with us
• 25:07
  today. I was I was hoping he'd be able to come join us.
• 25:08
  He's kind of from that area too, but he knows so much and he's
• 25:11
  seen some stuff in that area, so I was really hoping. Again them
• 25:14
  all, I love that. It's it's like we're uncovering and unraveling these mysteries,
• 25:21
  learning the history, putting it out there, because the only thing I'd
• 25:22
  ever heard was about a woman who burst a witch or a birtht a demon
• 25:26
  or something, and and it had hooves. I think it was born a
• 25:30
  human baby, but then it shape shifted into a demon with hooved feet and
• 25:36
  a horsehead. And yeah, here's another interesting nugget of information I came across
• 25:44
  recently the Lenape Indians who are native to that area. The Lenape Indians were
• 25:48
  pretty much native to like New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania. They have
• 25:55
  a legend of something called the missing an apostrophe sig okay, that's associated with
• 26:02
  the Pine Bearns. It's like this nature spirit, guardian spirit that they all
• 26:06
  like revere and respect. And the way it was sometimes described, it looked
• 26:11
  like a deer with leathery wings. A deer with leathery wings. That's how
• 26:17
  will was described. And also I think the Pine Bearns area, the Lenape
• 26:23
  had a name for it before the European settlers arrived. It was called Popassing
• 26:33
  and the translation is the place of the dragon. Okay, so dragon that
• 26:37
  that sounds I mean dragons are like reptilians and things like that, and it
• 26:41
  does have a dragon tail. You know, it also has a dragon light
• 26:45
  tail are terosaurs and you had mentioned before we went live tonight, you had
• 26:49
  mentioned there could be a connection with terosaurs with with this creature as well.
• 26:56
  So my partner on Jason McClean, questions everything, Jason McClean. He and
• 27:00
  I were talking about this topic just the other night and he gave me his
• 27:03
  theory on the Jersey Devil and what he believes, and I was like,
• 27:07
  oh, that's a good one. He analyza saying so great. Like I
• 27:14
  just I've always loved doing shows with Jason. He's amazing. He's a real
• 27:18
  smart guy. He's very smart. Yeah, real smart. Like he he
• 27:22
  looks at things differently, like outside the box. And I can really appreciate
• 27:26
  that. Yeah, I mean that guy got any smarter his brain his head
• 27:30
  would explode. Oh my god, you better be watching, Yeah, you
• 27:33
  better. Okay, we're shout out, shout out to Jason McClean. So
• 27:37
  his theory was okay. So in nineteen oh nine, all throughout the Delaware
• 27:40
  Valley area, there were about a thousand sightings in the course of three days,
• 27:47
  a thousand because this thing at one point this thing attacked a trolley car
• 27:52
  with a bunch of people inside. A whole bunch of people saw this thing,
• 27:56
  and the way they described it so um in the eighteen hundreds early nineteen
• 28:02
  hundreds, when people describe it, they describe it as the way we see
• 28:04
  it illustrated before you tonight. But Jason believes that way their people are actually
• 28:11
  describing are pterosaurs, flying dinosaur it's flying reptiles. The thing is dinosaurs had
• 28:21
  been discovered in the early eighteen hundreds, but it didn't become like a popular
• 28:26
  culture item or like common knowledge to every person until about nineteen fourteen. So
• 28:32
  because dinosaurs were not in the zeitgeist of people's minds back then, that's how
• 28:37
  they would have described the Jersey Devil, because they had no concept of dinosaurs
• 28:41
  until about a few years later in nineteen fourteen. So what Jason believes is
• 28:48
  he thinks that they may have been seeing a pterosaur, and because dinosaurs hadn't
• 28:52
  been discovered, or they were discovered, but because they weren't popular yet,
• 28:56
  that's how people described it. I thought it was a really interesting theory.
• 29:00
  That is, well, they didn't have these dinosaur museums with the bones in
• 29:03
  them and stuff, and yeah, that's a whole other topic too, with
• 29:07
  the whole dinosaur bones and them having radiation and lead paint. Some of them
• 29:11
  aren't even real bones. And well, yeah, well that's yeah, that
• 29:17
  is We're gonna stick to Krypti's tonight. But yeah, that is a whole
• 29:19
  other show. I can appreciate that, though, so, but I'm interested
• 29:25
  in finding out more about like what you saw, though. I was.
• 29:27
  That's what I was really excited about. I was like, Oh, man,
• 29:30
  just's gonna look at what the Jersey Devil really was. I want to
• 29:33
  know. I did, and uh, my data was really interesting because the
• 29:37
  first target was just the Jersey Devil period right, very wide range, very
• 29:44
  open, lot of room for discovery. Let's just say, okay and uh
• 29:49
  and so I'm oh, no, people are talking about Rosemary's baby in the
• 29:55
  chat. I don't know. Maybe I've read that wrong, but he's still
• 29:57
  beautiful to mother. I don't know where I got rose Mary's baby from that
• 30:02
  Demon babies, I guess. I mean, I don't know. I am
• 30:04
  so far behind on these chats all I can't keep up. Oh my gosh,
• 30:08
  Oh there's a big foot Michigan rob thank you everybody subscribed to a bmr's
• 30:14
  channel over on YouTube and follow him, So thank you. Okay, So
• 30:18
  I'm gonna go ahead and I'll get into the data of the verse targat it
• 30:22
  was just the Jersey Devil. Okay. Now through this data, before I
• 30:29
  get started, I can just tell you that, Donnie, that I believe
• 30:33
  that there are more than one Jersey Devil. Okay, there's not just like
• 30:37
  one Jersey Devil, just like there's not just one big Foot, Okay,
• 30:40
  like Patty. There's a whole bunch of these creatures and there have been from
• 30:45
  the very beginning what people describe as the Jersey Devil. What I picked up
• 30:51
  on was something that was an organic animal. It was not anything that was
• 30:55
  like a supernatural being or a demon or anything like that. I was picking
• 30:59
  up a suit a real organic being, flesh and bone. I was specifically
• 31:03
  wrote down flesh and bone. It did have bat wings, okay, now,
• 31:10
  something that it hides. Honestly to goodness, I never made the connection
• 31:15
  with a pterosaur, and not in my data, because that's not the job
• 31:18
  of remote viewing is not to make that unless it is a terosaurd and like
• 31:21
  it just blatantly came out with that. But listen to my sensory data and
• 31:25
  tell me if this doesn't sound like a terosaurd nocturnal, misidentified, flying,
• 31:30
  crawling, hiding, grounded, irritable, and degraded. Okay, I know
• 31:36
  that not all that may fit with a pterosaur, but that that was some
• 31:38
  of my sensory data, a lot of what I wrote down for my analytic
• 31:45
  overlay, for the part of my remote viewing where my brain is trying to
• 31:48
  make sense of what I'm seeing. It sounds a lot like my terosaur data.
• 31:52
  I remote view terosaurs and Jason McLean and I did a show about it.
• 31:56
  Okay, sounds pretty similar, and it sounds I never made that connection
• 32:00
  until you said that right before the show. Yeah yeah, so um so,
• 32:07
  I mean I was picking up on um, these things are nocturnal,
• 32:10
  they're seasonal like they they migrate apparently, but my seasonal I guess that means
• 32:15
  migrate. I don't know. That was just something I wrote down, but
• 32:20
  I was picking up that. Whatever it was, it eats bugs and locusts.
• 32:22
  Okay, has something to do with locusts. Um. I was picking
• 32:27
  up shadows, but I was also being it was predatory. So it's some
• 32:30
  kind of predatory animal. Um. And I drew a very interesting picture my
• 32:37
  sketch, but I can't I'm not gonna show it tonight. It looks like
• 32:39
  something with a beak or something on it. So, but it looks like
• 32:44
  a human with a beak. That's whatever wrote that was my sketch. Was
• 32:47
  like a like a human bird or something, is what I was what I
• 32:52
  picked up one, um, but I was picking up they are they are
• 32:57
  solo, like they don't run impacts. Whatever I was looking at was a
• 33:00
  solo, a lone wolf. I picked up that it was carnivorous, even
• 33:05
  though I got was I guess bugs or meat? Right, I don't know
• 33:08
  carnivorous, but I had big teeth. And it's transient, transient and um,
• 33:15
  it migrates, Okay, is whatever I was picking up on? Um.
• 33:17
  But yeah, I definitely was picking up I mean with my censory dat
• 33:22
  I was definitely picking up this thing. It was by itself. There was
• 33:24
  just one. It wasn't like a group of these things whatever it is.
• 33:30
  But but a lot of what I picked up on sounds just like what I
• 33:32
  remote viewed for terrasaurs. So man, I am Really, I'm impressed that
• 33:37
  Jason made that connection because it kind of makes sense. Yeah, oh,
• 33:44
  he I'll send it to him. We're gonna send. Yeah. Now,
• 33:49
  I'm not saying it was a terrasaur, but I'm saying that it does line
• 33:52
  up with a lot of the same data that I got for terosaurs. Um
• 33:55
  back then, Now, I was more seeing something that might have looked like
• 33:59
  a bat or something like that bat that I showed. It did look a
• 34:02
  lot like, Um, let me take this down so we can see it.
• 34:07
  Thanks again, Rob, I appreciate you. It did look a lot
• 34:09
  like I'd say, something kind of like that, but not really because it
• 34:15
  had a different face on it, but it was like a little bit of
• 34:17
  a different face. It looked similar to that. Yeah. Um, now,
• 34:22
  I wasn't picking this was the first target though. I wasn't picking up
• 34:24
  on like the goat legs and all that kind of stuff for the first target.
• 34:28
  So I was also another common thing. A lot of people said it
• 34:31
  did have very round eyes, big guys. Okay, well that thing has
• 34:37
  well, this bat right here has big guys, but I don't know.
• 34:39
  Here we go, we got a beer shut ye okay, well but okay,
• 34:45
  so what are the animals I have actually wrote them down. The animals
• 34:49
  that are native to this pine barrens area that are nocturnal. I have a
• 34:54
  list. You want to hear it. You may have this list too,
• 34:58
  um. Okay, the wildlife. So the wildlife in the area. And
• 35:01
  some people think that this is a misidentified owl. Okay, a big,
• 35:07
  gigantic owl, perhaps a horned owl. Those are very common there because it
• 35:12
  looks like they have horns on their heads, which people said this thing had
• 35:15
  horns. It looks like horns, has a big forehead, the red eyeshine,
• 35:19
  big red eyes. Now bigfoots have eyeshine or a reflection. Actually they
• 35:24
  have like self illuminating eyes. Okay, so, but some of them do
• 35:29
  have red eyes. But they have a five foot wingspan and they snap their
• 35:34
  beaks whenever they're cornered, so they make this snapping sound that makes it's kind
• 35:38
  of a high pitched sound. There's also white tailed deer, there's foxes.
• 35:44
  They have bobcats, raccoons, and different types of owls. Okay, so
• 35:47
  that's kind of the general bit of OAPS. That's kind of a general the
• 35:53
  general gist of like what kind of animals they got there, So okay,
• 35:58
  my camera. The pine barrens, it's got a lot of history. Um,
• 36:05
  it was a it was a major economics center. I mean, you
• 36:08
  gotta remember this New Jersey. This is like where the first settlers ever started,
• 36:13
  right. A lot of these people who were native or who families are
• 36:16
  based out of there. They were some of the very first people to arrive
• 36:20
  in this country from from Europe. So there were like all these old like
• 36:23
  ironwork foundries and there's like a half finished brick factory somewhere deep into woods.
• 36:30
  There's like a bunch of big glassworks economy going on there. But then it
• 36:35
  all eventually got abandoned. So one of the things you find in these pine
• 36:39
  bearns is really thick. But then there are all these like abandoned buildings that
• 36:43
  are all just covered up with trees and plants, and then their entire like
• 36:46
  ghost towns that are just completely taken over by the forest. Lots of haunting
• 36:54
  encounters as well. Haunted yeah encounters. Um, in my opinion, that's
• 37:00
  not even the scariest thing in the primarions. You want to know what people
• 37:05
  are really scared of into priemarons, Yes, feral rednecks I'm yeah, like
• 37:15
  feral, feral people. Um okay, that's the thing that people are really
• 37:20
  scared of over there. And there are stories of people like hiking and then
• 37:23
  they see like you hear rumors of like they see like these weird you know
• 37:29
  humans, but you could tell like they just lived there, right, and
• 37:35
  lots of rumors of like meth labs yep, move, a lot of moonshine
• 37:38
  took place there. And the woods are so thick that you could just be
• 37:44
  in those woods and just have zero contact with society. Oh okay, so
• 37:50
  just kind of state steer clear of that place if you can. Lace is
• 37:53
  kind of scary, kind of like the Hills have Eyes. Yeah, oh
• 37:58
  yeah, exactly like that. I mean I feel that more than the Jersey
• 38:00
  Devil. Really. Yeah. The hill Tipe Eyes is a very creepy movie.
• 38:05
  I don't recommend mend anybody watching it that it's gonna be going camping or
• 38:08
  anything. I bet you have some people in this chaddl re've seen it,
• 38:10
  I know, right, Yeah, I know, I don't know. I
• 38:15
  wish I had never seen it. It was pretty scary. The second one
• 38:16
  was even weirder to me. But but anyways, yes, so Uh,
• 38:22
  so we have to worry about that here in Georgia too. In the mountains,
• 38:24
  I mean, anywhere you go deep in the in the mountains or even
• 38:28
  at national forests. I mean there are people that live out there, way
• 38:30
  way deep into the woods. Yeah, Georgia, Alabama, Florida, you
• 38:35
  name it, South Carolina, Tennessee. But there's something there's something gnarly about
• 38:42
  Jersey, you know. Some One of the things we often say is,
• 38:45
  you know, you got red next, but Jersey rednext. They were a
• 38:47
  whole different breed. I know. You know what, I've seen a couple
• 38:52
  of people in the chats talk about Jumping Jack. I actually did a show
• 38:55
  on that, and I'll I'll post a link, uh in the description or
• 39:00
  in the comments after the show. I did a show on spring Hill Jack.
• 39:05
  I remote viewed it. Yeah, I remote viewed something he was in.
• 39:08
  I don't know if I remote viewed spring Hill Jack or something else,
• 39:10
  but he was part of that show. So y'all, you know, check
• 39:14
  that out. That was actually with Texas front Port. So it's one of
• 39:16
  my one of my older shows that I had this past year. So y'all
• 39:21
  check that out. Yeah, because there's a lot of people are there's at
• 39:23
  least two people making a connection to a possible Jersey devil slash spring Hill Jack
• 39:30
  the jumping demon out of England. I think it was great Britain, right.
• 39:35
  Well. The thing that I was actually really curious about when you were
• 39:38
  doing your remote viewing was did you pick up anything about the family? No?
• 39:44
  I didn't at all, not on the first one. I didn't whatsoever.
• 39:47
  No I picked up I don't think so, because I was just picking
• 39:51
  up on the actual entity, like whatever the creature was. Yes, I
• 39:54
  just I picked up on just the creature. Oops. So no, I
• 40:00
  didn't pick up on the family at all. It had nothing to do with
• 40:02
  I mean I didn't. You don't think the family probably had anything to do
• 40:06
  with it? Do you agree? Then? It was probably like just people
• 40:07
  starry rumors about them because they hated their goods. Yeah. Well, now
• 40:12
  now that i'm I know kind of the story behind it and I see my
• 40:15
  data, because see here's the thing when I remote view, I don't know
• 40:17
  the stories behind this stuff. I don't even know what I'm looking at.
• 40:21
  Okay, So yeah, there was no mention of any family or anything.
• 40:24
  This was it was I guess it was whatever people were labeling as the Jersey
• 40:30
  Devil. I didn't see any. It wasn't like I never got shape shifter.
• 40:34
  I never picked up on anything paranormal on it. I didn't pick up
• 40:37
  on portals and weird stuff like that. I didn't pick up on any of
• 40:39
  that stuff. It was just some animal that had been misidentified or labeled as
• 40:45
  the Jersey Devil, is what I picked up on. Did you pick up
• 40:47
  on any Native American connections? I did not. No, I didn't.
• 40:52
  Well, it wasn't in my data, so no, I didn't. It
• 40:55
  doesn't mean that it's not there, you know when I remote view it does.
• 41:00
  I mean, all the data comes out of everything that these targets are.
• 41:02
  It's just whatever I'm perceiving and whatever you know, it was coming through
• 41:07
  for that target. UM. Now, I did do a second target,
• 41:09
  which did get really spicy. It got spicy, Okay, so so we
• 41:15
  can we can talk about that. Um, yeah, if you like,
• 41:19
  because this one did get weird. So I'll bring it up. And it's
• 41:23
  kind of a funny coincidence that you and I both saw it at the same
• 41:25
  time and it was both sent to us by by different people. Um.
• 41:30
  But there was an episode on Monster Quest that did a thing on the Jersey
• 41:34
  Devil, and they interviewed a woman who was living in the pine well around
• 41:37
  that area of the pine barrens and who actually had a recent encounter with her
• 41:43
  son um. And again, a lot of these encounters of the Jersey Devil
• 41:47
  are done with groups like multiple have seen people see like witnessing it at the
• 41:52
  same time. And this is one of those cases where the mother and son.
• 41:55
  This was you know, around Christmas time. They're taking down Christmas lights
• 42:01
  at night and apparently also pinebarons at night. I get real scary. It's
• 42:07
  a real creepy place at night. Okay, I bet it's real creepy.
• 42:12
  So but people live around it though, right Like people their homes there,
• 42:15
  their homes around the area. I mean, it's again it's a million anchors.
• 42:19
  It's a big place, and there are homes on the outskirts of it.
• 42:22
  And this is one of those homes that were on the outskirts where she
• 42:27
  was out in the backyard taking down Christmas lights with her son at night and
• 42:30
  they encountered this thing that's in the trees looking at them, and they're looking
• 42:37
  at that stink that on and she said. It was all black. The
• 42:40
  body shape was about the same way as the descriptions that had the wings,
• 42:45
  and it swooped down on them and they both panicked and they try to run
• 42:49
  back to the house, but then it landed on their roof and they just
• 42:55
  they described it as like just jet black. Um, honestly, it sounded
• 43:01
  a lot like moth man. It did. It did. Oh my goodness,
• 43:06
  Renee, thank you so much for that super chat. You're so sweet.
• 43:08
  Um. And it did it did sound like that. Okay. So
• 43:13
  Barry Littleton and I, uh, we were discussing this. We were discussing
• 43:17
  my data to day okay over this target and uh and he um, yeah,
• 43:22
  we I had I remote viewed that incident actually, okay, because it
• 43:29
  just it Honestly, I don't know my data. My data lined up was
• 43:35
  something even weirder than the first target. Okay. That first target seemed something
• 43:39
  that was kind of um organic, just an animal that had been misidentified.
• 43:45
  This target m Barry. Barry had his he had a sneaky suspicion that this
• 43:52
  could be whatever was on their their roof because he because, like I said,
• 43:55
  he sent me this video that I watched right before you know, tonight
• 43:59
  before the show, he has his suspicions that it could be like a manifested
• 44:04
  being, which could be similar to even Springhill Jack. So this is interesting
• 44:07
  that people in the chat are bringing up Springhill Jack. There are certain entities
• 44:10
  that seem to pop into the human consciousness, into the collective consciousness, and
• 44:15
  then go out and we never hear about them ever again. Right and uh,
• 44:20
  but and this is kind of one of them, perhaps, Like I
• 44:22
  don't know, I mean, there's still sightings today, I guess, But
• 44:25
  over the past twenty years there's been two hundred sightings. I don't know the
• 44:30
  most recent one. I didn't I didn't get that information or whatever. But
• 44:35
  his suspicion was this was something that pops in and out of the conscious collective
• 44:39
  collective consciousness. I guess you'd call it. Well, this is interesting because
• 44:45
  what I remote viewed was, I don't know the exact title, hold on
• 44:51
  the Pine Barrens the Jersey Devils sighting, an encounter by Laurie Winkleman is her
• 44:57
  name, Okay and her son as they went outside to turn off the Christmas
• 45:01
  lights. I actually remote viewed that incident, Okay, And uh, this
• 45:06
  is I actually picked up on a goatman. Okay, so goat man,
• 45:12
  Donnie, of all things like I was picking up on like a crampus goatman.
• 45:15
  Vibe for this target, okay, and uh and it which is really
• 45:19
  interesting, okay, because this lady had said that she had hoof marks on
• 45:24
  her ceiling or on her roof, right, hooves, like what have hooves?
• 45:30
  Right? There's horses have hooves and goats have hooves hooves or hooves from
• 45:35
  the south hooves or who I say, hooves? Who cares? It is
• 45:38
  what it is. But I think goats have like a different kind of hoof.
• 45:44
  There's like it is in two parts, I think, and then horses
• 45:46
  have like a one like a solid hoof. List like that, goats have
• 45:50
  like double things in their hooves. If that, I don't know how to
• 45:52
  I don't know how to describe it, Donnie. I'm sorry, I forgot
• 45:57
  there's a name for it. But yeah, Renee, thank you again for
• 46:00
  that supersticker. Thank you. Yeah. If you don't know what a ghosts
• 46:05
  hoof looks like, just google it. Google it, yes, y'all,
• 46:08
  please google it. And uh, oh my god, I'm so behind on
• 46:12
  all these contents. I'm trying my best. Um, but yeah, it
• 46:15
  was U. I straight up picked up on this target. I thought it
• 46:20
  was like a goat man okay. Um and uh and so and I did
• 46:24
  pick up that there was something about manifesting. And I even picked up on
• 46:30
  like a portal okay. And so this is um, there's there's a whole
• 46:35
  lot of very like supernatural elements that I got out of this target that I
• 46:38
  was doing. And I was picking it, but I also picked up that
• 46:40
  it flies and something that was furry okay, furry flying um. And I
• 46:46
  kept picking up manifesting, manifesting, And see this is something interesting because Barry
• 46:51
  had said that he thought this might be something that was a manifested being much
• 46:53
  like sasquatch can manifest. Okay, now does that come? Does that mean
• 46:58
  that they manifest by walking in and out of portals? Perhaps? Okay?
• 47:02
  Because I did pick up portal. There was a portal on their property there
• 47:07
  and whatever this was came out of that portal okay. Um, So it
• 47:12
  just got it just got more weird. And and so when I did that
• 47:16
  first target, I was seeing that there's a whole bunch of I think that
• 47:22
  there are a bunch of different beings or a bunch of animals that have been
• 47:25
  identified as the Jersey Devil. There's not just one. Now, this being
• 47:30
  that was on their property was probably they called it the Jersey Devil because of
• 47:34
  the area. It's not the same thing that other people have called the Jersey
• 47:37
  Devil. Does that make sense? Okay? I feel like I'm talking in
• 47:40
  circles because I don't know what I'm talking about. Me. I think it
• 47:44
  was that I had wings. Yes, yeah, this thing right here,
• 47:50
  I just said. I picked up that it was not an animal, okay.
• 47:52
  And I did pick up that it was more like a goatman. Okay,
• 47:57
  it was like a goat manum. I absolutely was. I didn't see
• 48:00
  anything with wings or anything like that. I was seeing something like a goatman
• 48:05
  um. But and it was also it was also intentionally trying to scare those
• 48:10
  people too. It's what I picked up. It was intentionally scaring or somebody.
• 48:15
  Okay, Um, it was using scare tactics. There's I don't know
• 48:21
  I have. I have a whole bunch of data on this. You guys
• 48:22
  are welcome to see it. I don't talk about all of it because it's
• 48:24
  kind of I don't I don't even know how to organize what I'm what my
• 48:29
  data is to present it properly. That was described as like a humanoid up
• 48:34
  in the trees that swooped down over their heads landed on the rocky. Yeah,
• 48:39
  so it had to have wings. Then I didn't pick up on wings,
• 48:43
  for just like I said, I was picking up on something that was
• 48:45
  like a goatman. So they said that when the mother and the son,
• 48:51
  when they started panicking and they just bolted straight forward back to their house,
• 48:55
  back to their back door, and had running full clip. And the women
• 49:01
  described that she felt and heard it swoop over their head. I don't think
• 49:06
  they actually saw it flying because they're too busy trying to run the opposite direction
• 49:10
  from it, which was kind of messed up because it actually landed on the
• 49:15
  roof like where they were trying to run too. Yeah. Oh, and
• 49:20
  I had pictures, Okay, let me see, let me I actually okay,
• 49:22
  so I snapped a picture with my cell phone of my computer screen today
• 49:30
  of the track. Okay, because the next morning these people woke up and
• 49:36
  there, I don't even know if they slept. I wouldn't have slept that
• 49:37
  night personally, I would I would have slept with one eye open, or
• 49:42
  had had that woman had her husband's stay up all night probably. But they
• 49:45
  also say they don't have guns. I mean, like, how are you
• 49:49
  gonna live out there? How are you gonna protect yourself? I'm just saying,
• 49:52
  I mean, it's okay you have a knife and a baseball bat or
• 49:53
  whatever, but just protect yourself somehow, because not even a gun guy.
• 50:00
  But if I would you, okay, well potentially, I absolutely would.
• 50:06
  I mean because you know, when when you got something chasing you and your
• 50:08
  kid into the house that has wings, it looks like a garboyle um with
• 50:12
  hoofs uh, it's gonna take a while for the cops to get there.
• 50:16
  Um, even if you're you're depending on them, and who's to say?
• 50:19
  What if? What if it's snowing and your phone gets knocked out? You
• 50:22
  know what I are. I'm just saying, we gotta think about these things.
• 50:27
  You gotta always at least like if you're gonna go into woods, you
• 50:29
  always got to at least carry a knife. Yes, you gotta have I
• 50:34
  a taser, you know, a baton, I mean, whatever whatever is
• 50:38
  hopefully I'd say preferably nothing that's hand to hand combat. I would do something
• 50:43
  that you don't have to get too close to it. But that's just me.
• 50:45
  Um okay, So I took a picture of this print because I know
• 50:50
  Craig is in here. He's my one of my teammates. He's a tracker.
• 50:52
  There's a lot of people in here that are do tracking, animal tracking,
• 50:55
  human tracking, big foot tracking. Okay, so I'm here. Here's
• 51:00
  a shot from way far out right there. You can't really see very well
• 51:02
  what you're looking at because it's a bad picture. There are certainly track marks
• 51:07
  there. And this is the roof, yeah, yes, and uh and
• 51:14
  it has a fresh coat of snow on top of pretty. The next day
• 51:17
  when the wife and the family went out, and her husband he he looked
• 51:21
  at the roof and he saw that they were distinct like footprints tracks like into
• 51:25
  snow. Thankfully snow that day. But that's what they took that was on
• 51:31
  their roof. Yes, okay, These these are straight up hoofprints okay.
• 51:37
  And you can only see like one good one right there. Um okay.
• 51:40
  They took these pictures to a wildlife expert who said they could not multiple wildlife
• 51:45
  experts they could not identify what that was yeah, now it was. You
• 51:51
  could tell it was something that was either bipedal or it was something that was
• 51:53
  jumping. Okay, like a rabbit or something like that. But a rabbit
• 51:58
  puts his whole body down in the snow, is not just a foot okay,
• 52:00
  and listen, something small and apparently this thing was huge, okay huge.
• 52:07
  These track marks are nine inches by five inches is what I what I
• 52:12
  heard them say, and they were four feet apart. So that's a pretty
• 52:15
  big stride. That's a huge stride. And it was clearly on two legs.
• 52:20
  Based on two legs, that's right. So um to me, it
• 52:24
  looks like I was watching that video and they did. It doesn't like hoof
• 52:30
  prints hoof hoof prints, and it's not the kind that horses leave. Is
• 52:35
  the kind that like goats have, I guess, like with the split down
• 52:38
  the middle. And what would a goat be doing on a random person's roof,
• 52:44
  Well, goats like to get on roofs. Listen, there's a place
• 52:45
  going up to up to North Georgia and it's called goats on a roof,
• 52:51
  I swear to God, I mean, yeah, you like climbing things.
• 52:53
  I guess there are those mountain goats you see, by the way, those
• 52:57
  videos are amazing. Those walls are the goat goal and they're just like hanging
• 53:00
  out there. I'm like, wow, yes, oh yeah, No,
• 53:05
  goats on the side of a mountain are the coolest. Like, I don't
• 53:07
  really do it. I mean, I'm getting sweaty thinking about it. I
• 53:09
  get scared for them too. Well. I don't like hides. I'm not
• 53:14
  a fan of of like heights. I don't mind rollercoasters and stuff, but
• 53:16
  I hate being up high and not feeling like I'm in control, you know
• 53:21
  what I mean. So really scary. But yeah, hoofsteps on the roof.
• 53:29
  Okay, So the one thing I wanted to I did want to address
• 53:31
  about the Jersey Devil is it's one of those ones that surprised me that it's
• 53:37
  not more talked about in the paranormal community or in the cryptic community. Okay,
• 53:40
  I get. I mean it is brought up like in a lot of
• 53:44
  the major paranormal like its podcast or show, they will invariably be one episode
• 53:50
  on the Jersey Devil. I mean, yeah, it is famous and it
• 53:52
  is talked about, But the way like you have all these shows dedicated to
• 53:57
  Bigfoot dog Man Nepolo. But yeah, you don't see too many people talking
• 54:00
  about the Jersey Devil these days, even though it's still being cited quite commonly
• 54:05
  in that area and people are still having experiences. There should be moren't like
• 54:09
  people investigating there. Yeah, there should be. Yeah, that's that's a
• 54:16
  good point. That could have been Santa's reindeer, Penny. I don't know,
• 54:20
  but it wasn't Santa's reindeer. And that woman when I watched that that
• 54:23
  show today, she was just I mean, she took a she took a
• 54:27
  light detector test, Donnie. They were she and her son were both giving
• 54:30
  light detector tests. They both passed, but of course they believed what they
• 54:35
  saw what they were saying. So how can you not pass a test,
• 54:37
  you know, when you believe, like, you know, that's what you
• 54:40
  saw, even though they don't know what they saw. Yeah, does that
• 54:44
  make sense? Yeah? So yeah, I felt sorry for her. She
• 54:49
  was like, this scene was not a bat. Okay, it wasn't that
• 54:52
  big a African bat that we showed earlier with the hammer head. It wasn't
• 54:57
  that. She was like, it was a it was a almost like a
• 55:00
  human or something. I forgot how she described it, but it was big
• 55:06
  with wings, which, by the way, um, it kind of reminds
• 55:09
  me of a gargoyle, Okay, a gargoyle. Also, uh what I
• 55:16
  what I was kind of seeing more like a like Crampus kind So this is
• 55:21
  a picture of Crampus. It's a drawing of course, that kind of like
• 55:27
  what you guess saw in that kind of what I saw. Yeah, I
• 55:30
  mean it didn't have a barrel of beer that that he looks like he's going
• 55:34
  to a party or something, you know. Um, but yeah, but
• 55:37
  I mean it looks kind of like that. I mean I don't know which
• 55:42
  okay. So and also which is distinctly not that misinsidentified creature you saw in
• 55:49
  your first viewing. This was this is a completely different thing. This was
• 55:52
  something different. Yeah. So I just found it really interesting how how different
• 55:58
  the two targets were between like, what was the Jersey Devil? Okay,
• 56:02
  So it's just maybe maybe it was just the way the target was worded or
• 56:06
  something. It was just the Jersey Devil. It was so broad that I
• 56:08
  just picked up on something that had been claimed to be the Jersey Devil,
• 56:13
  you know, because there's so many different wines. Yeah, I think I
• 56:15
  think that that could have been where it got kind of muddied a little bit,
• 56:20
  Okay, is to which one I was looking at or whatever. It
• 56:24
  was just kind of general, So I know it sounds weird. Remote viewing
• 56:28
  can be strange. You gotta gotta know how to word the targets exactly right.
• 56:31
  You know why I think that thing and the misidentified creature could both be
• 56:37
  occupying the pine barrens because the pine Bearons are not only super thick, like
• 56:44
  it's so thick that, you know. One of the things that people often
• 56:46
  say about the pine Barons there's a lot of bodies hidden there, bodies like
• 56:52
  human bodies. Yeah, I think about it. There's like the mafia nearby.
• 56:57
  Oh where do you think they go to dump their bodies the pine barons,
• 57:00
  Because if you dump a body of the parons, you ain't finding it.
• 57:04
  I mean, they can't even find it. It's so thick and so
• 57:07
  hard to navigate that they wouldn't even be able to go back to the location
• 57:10
  where they buried the body. It's like you bury a body there, it's
• 57:13
  gone right. So again, it's so thick, impenetrable. People don't like
• 57:22
  it's hard to navigate. Try hiking there, you'll see. Um, so
• 57:25
  for something to want to be hidden and to live in this area. Also,
• 57:30
  unlike other major woods or famous national parks, this one's connected to the
• 57:35
  ocean. Oh, it is interesting. Do you have Well, I have
• 57:44
  a question somebody in the audience had asked, and I forgot. I forgot
• 57:46
  to ask this. I think. I think I switched comments before my brain
• 57:52
  had a chance to function to see if that was on. There are there
• 57:54
  missing persons clusters at the Pine barrens, like missing for one one stuff.
• 58:00
  I mean, I didn't look into it, but there gotta be. There's
• 58:02
  gotta be. Yeah, I would assume that's a pretty good place to go
• 58:07
  missing. Is that a national forest? You know? It is? Uh?
• 58:10
  There? There are there is a national park within the pine barrens.
• 58:14
  Um and it's it's actually one. I think it's what they say. It's
• 58:20
  like one of the biggest open natural areas on the Eastern seaboard, next to
• 58:24
  like the Florida Everglades. Oh, like on the seaboard. Like it's actually
• 58:30
  touching the ocean. Okay, Oh, well, Barry Littleton is in the
• 58:36
  chat. Everybody, Hey, Barry, Um yeah, Barry, he's talking
• 58:40
  about the jumping entities, I said. He and I kind of discussed that
• 58:44
  before and being like manifested beings and things like that. So um, yeah,
• 58:49
  this could be a jumping entity like the spring Hill Jack, which I
• 58:52
  think is really cool. That's why I love our live chat and people participating
• 58:58
  and uh and giving us some good tonight. It is. I can't even
• 59:02
  keep up. I really can't, Barry, thank you for being here,
• 59:06
  Thank everybody for being here. Yes, greetings, greetings, Um, oh
• 59:12
  my gosh, Rob to Goat's milk, Thank you Rob for that super sticker.
• 59:16
  That's very so. The feral Rednecks still by far terrified me the most.
• 59:21
  I think they even talked about on the Joe Rogan podcast like they were
• 59:23
  telling stories about them. Um yeah, that's scary. That's feral humans scare
• 59:29
  me the most out of anything. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and and
• 59:32
  there's all these like cults and things like that too when you start getting out,
• 59:37
  like there's places like up near Corpsewood manor I've done a show on that.
• 59:42
  Actually, Craig who's in the chat tonight over Low Range over Lander,
• 59:45
  he came on my show and we talked about corpsewood manor here in Georgia,
• 59:50
  up in the mountains, there are I guess what you can consider to be
• 59:53
  like backwoods cults and feral humans up that way. Um there's also the Chicka
• 59:59
  Mob, a battlefield where they have old green eyes. That's cryptid that's been
• 1:00:02
  known to be up there, that eats dead bodies and stuff. But a
• 1:00:07
  lot of satanic rituals are being done up there, and a lot of really
• 1:00:10
  dark stuff like dark magic and stuff. I guess. So, yeah,
• 1:00:16
  don't don't go by yourself at night. I wouldn't go. I wouldn't go
• 1:00:20
  in the group at night unless you're investigating it, you know, and you
• 1:00:22
  know what you're getting into. Investig it's worth investigating, but you know,
• 1:00:28
  safety first. You know, it's not a good place to go with your
• 1:00:31
  high school buddies to go scare each other at night. You need to go
• 1:00:36
  with pros. You don't know what you're dealing with, right, I think
• 1:00:39
  that's I think that's an issue. A lot of a lot of these places
• 1:00:43
  that are so have such dark energy to them. People just don't know what
• 1:00:46
  they're getting into. I'm guilty, listen, I'm guilty. When I was
• 1:00:49
  in high school. We went to um not only ghost Row down where I
• 1:00:53
  went to college in South Georgia, which was kind of mild. We used
• 1:00:58
  to go to Pigman's Okay, when I was in high school, and that
• 1:01:01
  place was I don't know what was chasing it. There was something that chased
• 1:01:05
  us out of those woods, and it could have been wild hogs, it
• 1:01:07
  could have been anything, but the story that went with it, it's not
• 1:01:15
  I ask you a question. Actually, it's for me thinking. Okay,
• 1:01:17
  in all year I guess years and of involvement in the paranormal and with cryptod
• 1:01:23
  and especially with people who go out on the field and investigate, have you
• 1:01:28
  ever heard any stories or rumors of people who have gone missing while out on
• 1:01:32
  a bigfoot hunt or on a dog man hunt? But have there been stories?
• 1:01:42
  That's that's a good question. Um. I mean the people that I
• 1:01:45
  know for a fact disappeared came back. So we've had people disappeared before,
• 1:01:52
  but they came right back. Okay. Because I was I've heard so many
• 1:01:55
  missing stories people, Uh, I'm sorry, missing stories of all in the
• 1:02:00
  woods. So it's a tone Twisterum. So I heard so many of these
• 1:02:07
  stories. But then in all those cases, they're always out in the woods
• 1:02:10
  for any other reasons other than bigfoot hunting. Right, that's true. Oh
• 1:02:15
  yeah, I got some picking berries. What if you want to guarantee,
• 1:02:19
  if you want to guarantee that you're going to make it back, go bigfoot
• 1:02:22
  hunting, because bigfoot hunters never go missing. Yes, Justin's in the chat.
• 1:02:25
  Hey, Justin from Strange Road Sanchia, Right, I remember Justin.
• 1:02:30
  Okay, yes, click click some of us click click um. Okay,
• 1:02:35
  absolutely if you're If you're familiar with the Missing for one one series by David
• 1:02:38
  Politis, a lot of the things people have in common they go missing,
• 1:02:43
  they don't, some of them do, most of them don't. The majority
• 1:02:45
  do not carry a firearm. Okay. They say that it's important that we
• 1:02:50
  have some form of protection. Okay, there's certain protocol. Okay, don't
• 1:02:54
  be walking in the back of the line. If you're like with a group
• 1:02:57
  of people in the front or the back, get in the middle. Okay,
• 1:03:00
  make sure your kids are walking in the middle. Don't let the kids
• 1:03:02
  wander off. The more experienced hikers and people that are out there, researchers
• 1:03:09
  whoever, get in the front, in the back and protect everybody in the
• 1:03:15
  middle. Kind of like it's kind of like a pack of wolves. I
• 1:03:16
  think wolves do that. How do you avoid getting class and separated though,
• 1:03:22
  Well, we have a very strict protocol with my team. Okay. Now
• 1:03:24
  I can't speak for other teams, but I know my teams. We all
• 1:03:28
  carry CB radios, we have bail phones, everybody certified in HAM radio.
• 1:03:34
  And so we we go out there, we have somebody back at base camp
• 1:03:37
  who has their notes and you know, makes We make a list of teams
• 1:03:42
  and who's on each team, small teams like a military operation. Maybe it
• 1:03:47
  is, well, it is. Well, a lot of the guys on
• 1:03:50
  my team are military, former and current, Okay, and so we do
• 1:03:54
  absolutely everything by the book. We do not I mean if we even go
• 1:03:59
  out for a name your height during the day and we're just doing it for
• 1:04:02
  fun. We have to carry our radios and we check in every few minutes
• 1:04:05
  with base camp, um, just to let everybody know we're at I kind
• 1:04:10
  of want to go on one of these excursions. Okay, here's my job.
• 1:04:14
  Here's what I'll volunteer to do. I will stay at base camp and
• 1:04:17
  my job will be I'll just prepare the food so good. Okay, I'll
• 1:04:23
  be the We're totally I'm totally down to that because I'm way too much of
• 1:04:26
  a woods to go out into the woods, a bit of a wimp.
• 1:04:30
  But I can cook. Okay, Okay, welcome Sean to the Crypto Huntress.
• 1:04:36
  Okay, yes, we Hey, I am always down to have somebody
• 1:04:41
  come with us it wants to cook or whatever. And uh yeah, well,
• 1:04:44
  well we take care of our our guests. You know, we don't
• 1:04:46
  usually bring a lot of guests out to where we go big footing and stuff
• 1:04:49
  like that. But but yeah, it's a lot of fun. Do what
• 1:04:55
  do you do? You ever use drones? Yes, we've had drones,
• 1:04:58
  but here's a problem with drones. Our equipment malfunctions out there where we go
• 1:05:01
  quite often, and it's to the point to where our drones will crash.
• 1:05:04
  You know. Bob Wilson, I don't know if he's in the chat tonight,
• 1:05:09
  but he had a drone out there though he was taken and something something
• 1:05:14
  would happen to it every time. And those things are not cheap. So
• 1:05:16
  um, but we've used them before. The listener to people's expensive electronics like
• 1:05:21
  that. Um, you know, it's not always just I mean, we
• 1:05:26
  suspect there's a lot of et activity out there and uh and things like that,
• 1:05:30
  so UFOs et s. Yeah, there's something, there's something that shuts
• 1:05:35
  things down and causes time edits and all sorts of blow blow. Yeah,
• 1:05:46
  it's best to be low tech, as they call it. Just be low
• 1:05:49
  tech. Don't take a whole bunch of stuff um and uh and just go
• 1:05:53
  have fun. Okay, just go have fun and don't um. I mean
• 1:05:58
  it's good to have that equipment, but yeah, just just expect for some
• 1:06:01
  of it to to get I don't say broken, but just not. I
• 1:06:06
  always suspected that if the day ever comes where someone does go missing on a
• 1:06:12
  bigfoot or dog man hunts, I'll sit back and think, Man, that
• 1:06:15
  person that must have actually found bigfoot or dog man. Yeah, well,
• 1:06:19
  actually what they're looking for. They went out with doing what they love.
• 1:06:23
  And I think a lot of I think a lot of researchers are okay with
• 1:06:30
  that. I don't it sounds crazy, but not. You know, people
• 1:06:32
  on my team, we're not like reckless or anything like that. We're very
• 1:06:35
  um, we follow strict protocol and so there's no there's no going against it
• 1:06:41
  or else you get shunned. I've heard stories to sit at base camp for
• 1:06:45
  the rest of the night. I've heard stories of people do actually getting reckless
• 1:06:49
  and yeah, it's it's not good. Um, you don't want to be
• 1:06:53
  that kamikaze out there. You don't want to be that one story of yeah,
• 1:07:00
  well you don't want to not get kicked off your team too. And
• 1:07:02
  so we're all very respectful to her, to each other, because here's the
• 1:07:05
  thing, like, if you put yourself in danger, you're putting the rest
• 1:07:09
  of us in danger. That's how I look at it, And so I
• 1:07:12
  would never go out any I would not ever take anybody out in the field
• 1:07:15
  that I don't trust completely, because you know, I don't want my life
• 1:07:20
  to be put in danger because somebody's being reckless, you know. So there's
• 1:07:23
  just a healthy dose of respect out there. I actually took Robbie with me.
• 1:07:27
  We went out Robbie rains with Da x Mock in a podcast and what's
• 1:07:30
  really out there. Robbie and I went out to the North Georgia Mountains last
• 1:07:35
  last weekend for the Georgia big Foot Conference and took him up big footing and
• 1:07:41
  we were actually surrounded by big foots out there on Friday night, and so
• 1:07:46
  I did a show about that with him yesterday, which is really cool.
• 1:07:49
  So if anybody miss that, y'all, y'all go check that out. It's
• 1:07:53
  here on my channel. So have you done much like paranormal investigations, like
• 1:07:57
  of like a haunted house? Do you do those? I've done that a
• 1:08:00
  few times. I don't I have done that. I've never gone into was
• 1:08:03
  looking for a crypto, but I have gone to unted houses and spent the
• 1:08:09
  night and investigated. And even that gets pretty intense sometimes it does. Yeah,
• 1:08:15
  Ryan, Hey, Ryan, a split toe is called a cloven hoof.
• 1:08:18
  Thank you, Ryan. Absolutely, Ryan's with the Horror Chronicles podcast.
• 1:08:23
  I'll go check them out too, please. Um. Yes, the cloven
• 1:08:27
  hoof. So there was cloven hoof prints on that roof. Okay, so
• 1:08:30
  that's what that was. And they were huge and big. Yeah my sister.
• 1:08:34
  My sister has a little mini gooes by the way there, but they're
• 1:08:36
  actually kind of big. Those are Those are like nine by five? Those
• 1:08:40
  are huge? Okay. But yes, to answer your question, absolutely,
• 1:08:44
  I started off doing ghosts stuff. Okay, that's kind of how before I
• 1:08:48
  got into big footing. I was doing paranormal investigations, okay, and we're
• 1:08:54
  research for my own. I wasn't a part of a team or anything,
• 1:08:59
  but yeah, I was very much in tune to that. Even in high
• 1:09:01
  school. We would go check out haunted houses and stuff when I was young,
• 1:09:08
  So I did that. Now I do carry a lot of my ghost
• 1:09:12
  hunting equipment when we're out doing bigfooting. It goes hand in hand as a
• 1:09:16
  matter of fact, and a lot of that equipment is good to use because
• 1:09:19
  there's so much paranormal activity going on out there when we're having bigfoot activity et
• 1:09:27
  stuff. I mean, you'll be out there investigating bigfoot, you have your
• 1:09:30
  EVP recorder on, and you'll have robotic noises going on all around you that
• 1:09:35
  you didn't have it with your with your neckd ear, I guess you could
• 1:09:38
  say. So there's a whole lot of intermingling of the paranormal when you're doing
• 1:09:45
  this research. So I found that with all the time I've spent in like
• 1:09:53
  haunted like hotels and homes, I find that the actual sleeping their part isn't
• 1:09:59
  the hardest for me. The hardest part was always going to the bathroom out
• 1:10:03
  in the woods. No, I mean like using the actual bathroom of that
• 1:10:06
  haunted house. And I'm in the bathroom, I'm like, I'm so vulnerable
• 1:10:10
  right now. You're so vulnerable. It's it's nerve racking. But the thing
• 1:10:15
  is, usually when I have to sleep there like haunted bed and breakfast.
• 1:10:18
  Usually by the time I go to bed, I'm so torn. I'm so
• 1:10:20
  like worn down by the investigation itself that I just like not right out.
• 1:10:26
  Oh my god. It's always the bathroom where I get real nervous though,
• 1:10:30
  Okay, yeah, because ghosts can watch you use the bathroom. So yeah,
• 1:10:34
  you just gotta you just gotta not think about it. Just don't think
• 1:10:36
  about it. That's where that's where the thoughts come. That's where the yeah,
• 1:10:41
  well think about it when you're out in the when you're out in the
• 1:10:43
  woods and like, let's just stay in the middle of the night. There's
• 1:10:45
  not a place, there's not like a bathroom anywhere. You gotta go use
• 1:10:48
  the woods, right and being out there all by yourself, it's not it's
• 1:10:53
  it's a little scarier than me in a haunted house in my opinion, because
• 1:10:56
  there's nothing to there's no walls, you don't know what well, yeah,
• 1:11:00
  I don't the woods an behind you. Yeah, well you usually do this
• 1:11:02
  at night, right, you don't do this doing anything. We're we're out
• 1:11:05
  there day and night. Yeah, we're supposed, but it's mostly it's like
• 1:11:11
  legitimately dangerous for so many reasons, and um yeah, it's just oh that
• 1:11:17
  would be so scary. Yeah, it's it's actually really fun. I love
• 1:11:21
  it. I don't mind it, and I don't I don't mind. I
• 1:11:24
  don't know. Listen, this is gonna dound terrible. I don't my pean
• 1:11:26
  in the woods at night by myself either. I mean, it's not it's
• 1:11:30
  not always. Um you know, just be ready to scream. Okay,
• 1:11:33
  and and my team. That's why I go about with my team, because
• 1:11:35
  if I screamed, they're gonna come rescue me. Okay. Actually came up
• 1:11:39
  with this actually reminds me up with a recently based off what we talked about
• 1:11:45
  you and I just to come last time. Yes, okay, remember how
• 1:11:49
  at one point we mentioned how Bigfoot and dog man and cryptos like that they
• 1:11:54
  don't like fire, right, Yes, I'm thinking, oh, maybe that's
• 1:12:00
  why there are more and more Bigfoot and dog man sightings around here. These
• 1:12:04
  days as opposed to like a hundred years ago, because the dog man and
• 1:12:10
  Bigfoot stories weren't that common like during the eighteen hundreds right early nineteen hundreds.
• 1:12:15
  The reason why was because during that time people were walking around with actual fire
• 1:12:19
  for light at night into woods for the dogs. They don't like that.
• 1:12:25
  But as things modernize, more and more people use flashlights. Flashlights. They
• 1:12:29
  don't bother them, so now we see more of them. Oh my gosh,
• 1:12:32
  that's a great point. We'll see we I don't even walk around to
• 1:12:35
  flashlight at all alt in the field. Oh no, not at all.
• 1:12:42
  If I have to, like, I'll take my head lamp and uh.
• 1:12:45
  And that's usually just at base camp. I try not to use a flashlight
• 1:12:46
  at all. Yeah, your eyes get used to it. Oh yeah,
• 1:12:53
  I guess your eyes get used to Yeah, it's it's best not to.
• 1:12:58
  But that's just my I mean, some people that so pebbly go out in
• 1:13:01
  the build. I mean, you can you can tell who like the season
• 1:13:03
  researchers are. They're the ones that are not using their flashlights. And then
• 1:13:06
  the ones that are like brand new, they got like the brightest flashlight,
• 1:13:10
  Like there there there strobe lights going it's like, oh my god, that's
• 1:13:13
  me. Yeah, that's not me at all. That's not me. I
• 1:13:16
  don't I don't like the flashlights. So but and if I have a headlamp
• 1:13:20
  on, it's red. I usually have my red light on sometimes. Uh
• 1:13:24
  so um undetectable, okay, um, but yeah, okay, I do
• 1:13:29
  have a question in the audience TCR forty four, how do I feel about
• 1:13:32
  the existence of real NPCs, that's like non player characters. I guess I
• 1:13:38
  one hundred percent believe in that one hundred percent. I believe the Laura's Cannon
• 1:13:42
  talked about that, and uh and those are just their background people and uh
• 1:13:45
  and I think I have experienced a ton of those absolutely, so I do
• 1:13:51
  believe that they do exist. I've been I've been one of myself probably Yeah,
• 1:13:57
  just over here in mind of my own business, just being a whatever
• 1:14:01
  that is. It's like when you're in you know, growing up and you're
• 1:14:05
  in a play and you're like the drama teachers like go be a tree,
• 1:14:10
  you know, be a tree, Be the best tree you can be.
• 1:14:14
  Though, Okay, I like being the MP. Yes, me too,
• 1:14:17
  you too, well, I mean, you know, I'm kind of out
• 1:14:19
  there. I don't like being NPCs, but I don't have to be.
• 1:14:21
  But h but I got plenty of them around. Yes, Brian is from
• 1:14:26
  the Horror Chronicles podcast. Y'all go go check them out. What's up?
• 1:14:30
  Ryan tell JT. I said, hey too, Um, but yeah,
• 1:14:33
  interesting interesting questions in the chat tonight. And uh yeah, I think there's
• 1:14:39
  there's quite a few people from the East coast that know a lot about the
• 1:14:43
  Jersey Devil. And uh, I think that that fire comment you made,
• 1:14:46
  I think that that point is so that that's pretty valid. Actually a lot
• 1:14:50
  of people use oil lamps back then, yeah, and actual fire torches things
• 1:14:55
  that would drive away cryptids. So there weren't as many stories at night and
• 1:15:00
  actually homes they're all using fire at night candles and stuff. And then we
• 1:15:05
  don't use it anymore for that So that now that now we got dog man
• 1:15:10
  looking in our window trying to look over our shoulders to watch TV ars.
• 1:15:14
  Yes, that is that is really scary. Actually, yeah, you're right,
• 1:15:18
  but yeah that may be why that absolutely could be why Uh yeah,
• 1:15:25
  I've never thought of that. Absolutely. Um, let me try to catch
• 1:15:29
  up. See there's any more questions in here? Um, Yes, y'all
• 1:15:32
  Okay, and so I highly recommend everybody, if you haven't already, checkout
• 1:15:36
  David Politis Missing for one one series. If you're going to before you go
• 1:15:41
  out in the field, before you go out in the woods, just read
• 1:15:44
  up on that and kind of get an idea of what not to do.
• 1:15:45
  Okay, We're red, don't We're red? Is that a thing too?
• 1:15:50
  One of the connections a good friend of mine, Steve Stockton said, is
• 1:15:55
  a lot of common things about when they describe what a lot of these missing
• 1:15:59
  people we're wearing. One day went missing, A lot of them were wearing
• 1:16:02
  red. Oh really well, and a lot of from what I understand,
• 1:16:09
  some of the people who've gone missing are scientists. Okay, so this just
• 1:16:13
  makes me feel as though a lot of these missing people are going missing because
• 1:16:17
  they're being taken for something other than this reality, perhaps like to go work
• 1:16:24
  somewhere or something. I don't know. I'm just saying I don't think it's
• 1:16:28
  a whole bunch of like sasquatch kidnapping people I personally don't see. I always
• 1:16:33
  try to sort a happy ending on it. I'd like to imagine that they
• 1:16:36
  should whisked off to like some Narnia kind of place and they're like on adventures.
• 1:16:41
  But I'm pretty sure that's probably not the games. Yeah what Rob says,
• 1:16:47
  you have a new show Cuisine with Chow and Krypto talk yea paranormal cooking
• 1:16:53
  show. Yeah you did mention that. I do remember, are you really
• 1:16:56
  doing that? I don't know if I'm gonna have the resources to do it
• 1:17:00
  cooking show, but a paranormal's like a comedy show or a paranormal or something
• 1:17:03
  show. I feel like paranormal people are way too serious all the time,
• 1:17:09
  and I'm like, lighten up. We talk about monsters all day. Yeah,
• 1:17:14
  right, it would be fine. Now, hey, Hills in the
• 1:17:16
  plural of big foot, I say big foote. I figured out why.
• 1:17:24
  I figured out why it's not big feet. Okay, okay. I discovered
• 1:17:28
  the reason because a lot of people are very you know, the people who
• 1:17:33
  are into bigfoot are like really into bigfoot. Right. But then if you're
• 1:17:36
  talking about what you love to do in your hobbies and people are like,
• 1:17:40
  oh, what kind of convention are you going to, You're not gonna say,
• 1:17:43
  oh, yeah, I'm really into big feet, because then people are
• 1:17:45
  gonna get confused. He's like you're in a big feet But yeah, I
• 1:17:50
  like big feet. Oh my gosh. Weird though, But if if you
• 1:17:55
  say I like big foots, they know that you're talking about the crypto.
• 1:17:58
  There's no confusion. That's right. Well, listen, I played by my
• 1:18:00
  own rules, so you guys can y'all can go buy what I do.
• 1:18:03
  I say bigfoots. It does not matter, yeah, because it can get
• 1:18:09
  awkward, it gets super awkward. Well, I've had people get mad at
• 1:18:13
  me when I first got you know, started talking about bigfoot publicly and going
• 1:18:17
  on shows and having my own show. Hey, people get mad because I
• 1:18:21
  wasn't calling them sasquatch. But that's just I've always called them bigfoot. I
• 1:18:26
  think that it's just all the matter of your preference. Okay, I think
• 1:18:29
  sasquatch. I say scats sasquatch pretty often. But but the way I've always
• 1:18:33
  known them to be or bigfoots, so um, I think it's it's it's
• 1:18:39
  okay. I don't think they get mad at you. I've had people claimed
• 1:18:42
  they talked to bigfoots and they get they don't like being called big foot.
• 1:18:45
  That's what yeah, because big foot are probably thinking, man, I'm more
• 1:18:47
  than just a pair of feet guying all right, big butt you know or
• 1:18:50
  whatever? Right? I know, well I have big feet. Nobody calls
• 1:18:56
  me bigfoot. Not yet. I'm sure everybody start will start doing it.
• 1:18:58
  What if? What if you if you encounter a big foot or sasquatch but
• 1:19:01
  it's actually got like normal feet or like little feet, But then you can't
• 1:19:05
  call it bigfoot anymore because you look down at his feet and this guy's got
• 1:19:09
  a little feet, but everything else looks like a big foot. Now you're
• 1:19:12
  in a conundrum. Now you confuse Yes, Oh my gosh, absolutely,
• 1:19:17
  Hey, Jeff, Jeff Chompson is in the chat. Jeff, Jeff is
• 1:19:20
  with me at the Georgia Bigfoot Conference this weekend. He is my neighbor.
• 1:19:24
  Yeah, oh my gosh, what is it? As cahonies? Hey Crowley,
• 1:19:29
  Oh my gosh, y all are too funny. I'm trying to listen
• 1:19:31
  to Donnie. Are making me laugh if you're in a chat, so Donnie,
• 1:19:35
  well you're making me laugh too, Jannie. We're having a good time
• 1:19:38
  tonight. This is this has been a lot of fun so far. Well,
• 1:19:43
  yeah, I think personally the reason why the Jersey Devil isn't as big
• 1:19:46
  is because the way it looks, it's not sexy like Bigfoot and dog Man
• 1:19:50
  are right, they're sexy to people, you know, they're they're kind of
• 1:19:55
  cool looking. The Jersey Devil looks goofy. Therefore people aren't interested in it
• 1:20:00
  because to them, you know, it's not sexy like dog Man. I
• 1:20:05
  get it. It's it's not set, you know. I mean, it's
• 1:20:11
  not sexy at all. It's it's just a big old mix of a bunch
• 1:20:14
  of weird stuff. Yeah. But um, yeah, you know, I
• 1:20:17
  can't think. I can't say that we can. Honestly, like, remote
• 1:20:20
  viewing this was not easy because there's so many different variations of what the Jersey
• 1:20:25
  Devil is, So there's not going to be like one answer to this at
• 1:20:29
  all. And uh, and I'm not I'm not taking an easy way out
• 1:20:32
  of like not being able to describe exactly what this thing is because there's so
• 1:20:36
  many different Jersey Actually I like your answer. I actually really like what you
• 1:20:42
  found. And you're reading for a couple reasons. Number one, because yeah,
• 1:20:45
  I think it is multiple things. I think it is multiple things because
• 1:20:49
  that one three day period where a thousand people saw it, I mean,
• 1:20:53
  there have to have been like more than one thing out there. Yes,
• 1:20:57
  And I do like that the idea of the terror Um, I'm liking that
• 1:21:01
  idea more and more like the more I think about it. Donnie, I
• 1:21:05
  think that I think that's a great explanation. Actually, um, but the
• 1:21:10
  data does line up with terror source for that first target. It absolutely does.
• 1:21:14
  Um. It didn't say I didn't. It doesn't say it's been it's
• 1:21:18
  it's just all sensory data and stuff. But it does line up with what
• 1:21:21
  a terotsor looks like. So who knows. I mean, I just think
• 1:21:27
  I think that we need to always keep our minds open and uh and and
• 1:21:30
  be on the lookout for these things. I feel sorry for that family that
• 1:21:34
  was that I did. The second target on um that had the goatman on
• 1:21:39
  the roof got yeah, attacked. I guess, um, yeah, that
• 1:21:44
  was scary. That must have been real scary. It would have been.
• 1:21:48
  Let me let me pull this picture up because I have actually seen a video
• 1:21:53
  game cam of a real goat man before, and this is not it.
• 1:21:57
  This is not it. However, this is similar to something that I was
• 1:22:00
  kind of seeing on those people's roof when I was remote viewing that I guess
• 1:22:04
  whatever creature I was looking at looks similar to that. Now, I cannot
• 1:22:10
  say that this picture has been proven or disproven as real. I have no
• 1:22:13
  idea, but I see it a lot in the crypted community. This picture
• 1:22:17
  is always online. I mean, what is that a movie? It looks
• 1:22:23
  cool. I think it looks real cool. He's like, don't take my
• 1:22:26
  picture or game cam like. I don't know, but I have been shown
• 1:22:30
  a picture off of a game cam somebody I know. Okay, somebody I
• 1:22:36
  know sent it to me, and it looks like a goat man one hundred
• 1:22:41
  percent looks like a goat man. And I believe I might have remote viewed
• 1:22:45
  a goatman on that property at some point before I got shown that picture,
• 1:22:48
  So I think that they do exist. There's a reason we hear about goatman.
• 1:22:51
  There's a lot of goatmen down in Texas, Donnie, where Jason lives.
• 1:22:57
  He has a book Metropolitan Monster, I think is the name of it.
• 1:23:00
  Is Jason's book, Jason mcclean's book, and he has several chapters on
• 1:23:04
  goatmen in that book that are local to the area where he lives. Yeah,
• 1:23:12
  I don't know what the deal is with goat man. But about pans
• 1:23:16
  weird, They're weird. It's very odd. But I think that that could
• 1:23:20
  have something to do with what the Jersey Devil is, you know. I
• 1:23:25
  think that there's a variation that could be like a goatman or who's to say
• 1:23:28
  it's not a goatman period that people are calling the Jersey Devil at times.
• 1:23:33
  It I mean, I guess it it was has red eyes. I mean,
• 1:23:38
  it could be a big foot. It could be like a juvenile big
• 1:23:40
  foot too, that hops around from tree to tree or something. There seems
• 1:23:44
  to be new new ones coming out too, because I didn't. I never
• 1:23:47
  heard about going man when I first got into the paranormal until like kind of
• 1:23:51
  later. Um, is that a recent thing? What the goatman? Yeah?
• 1:24:00
  Oh, man had been around forever. I mean think a pan?
• 1:24:03
  Right? Um yeah, there are pan keeps coming up a lot lately.
• 1:24:10
  I've I've heard that I've actually remote viewed something for someone at least once where
• 1:24:15
  I remote viewed pan. I mean that wasn't like in my data, and
• 1:24:18
  I had no idea that there had been a possible goatman on that property.
• 1:24:23
  Okay, so um, yeah, I have a lot of fun by the
• 1:24:26
  way, remote viewing people. Um yeah, so some people do call them
• 1:24:31
  big feet, absolutely, but I do, I do. Um, yeah,
• 1:24:35
  it's uh, there's there's just as I forgot what I was saying,
• 1:24:40
  I just lost my train of thought there. But yeah, there's just a
• 1:24:42
  there's something going on with these goatmen right now. And uh, don't don't
• 1:24:46
  y'all. Don't be conjuring up goat man. Please, I've heard people do
• 1:24:48
  that. You don't want to conjure up a goatman. Please, don't do
• 1:24:53
  that. Already got dog, Yeah, don't open portals, yeah, please,
• 1:25:00
  And if you do, don't invite me over. Yeah. And then
• 1:25:02
  and then eventually we're gonna get pig man, and then that will be terrifying,
• 1:25:06
  Like well we do. I used to do. I used to get
• 1:25:10
  chased out of the woods by pig man back at my hometown. Yeah.
• 1:25:15
  Yeah, I don't tell my mom. I don't think I told my mom.
• 1:25:17
  I can't remember if I told my mom dad or not. Um,
• 1:25:20
  yeah, I actually did. Goat's eyes are weird, by the way.
• 1:25:24
  They do have those like slit pupils, right, that's a little odd,
• 1:25:28
  yeah, kind of like reptilian looking eyes. Yeah. Um, but yes,
• 1:25:36
  um, they are ugly, Jeff, the Jersey Devil is not a
• 1:25:43
  pretty sight. It's not a pretty sight. So but a lot of these
• 1:25:45
  cryptids are not. And uh and you know it, and it might it
• 1:25:47
  might just be nice. I mean, I've never heard of the Jersey Devil
• 1:25:49
  attacking anybody, have you your stories? There are rumors of it having actually
• 1:25:55
  killed children, not like and actually going after people's dogs, but nothing like
• 1:26:00
  the Beasts of Jefva Dune where it was just on a killing spree. But
• 1:26:05
  there was that one period I told you about earlier, that three day period
• 1:26:10
  where like a thousand people apparently had sightings of this. It got so bad
• 1:26:14
  that the schools were shut down. What Yeah, they shut the schools down
• 1:26:18
  because it was like mass hysteria, like everyone was just panicking. Nobody would
• 1:26:25
  get out of the house. All the police were out and forced. There
• 1:26:28
  are cops who actually took shots at it. And it was on, I
• 1:26:30
  mean, it was on. But there was one account where does old lady
• 1:26:34
  said that this thing actually tried to take her dog and eat it. So
• 1:26:39
  you okay, um, well that's that sounds pretty terrifying. Okay, Well,
• 1:26:48
  thank you. Bigfoot Michigan. Raw goats feet are we bringing back.
• 1:26:54
  We're gonna make big feet a word. We're gonna start it here. We're
• 1:26:57
  gonna start to trend soon. It's gonna be good feats. Goat foot that'd
• 1:27:00
  be goat foots, right, goat foots, cloven hooved goat foots. Wow,
• 1:27:09
  there we go. We got something new tonight, Yes, so we
• 1:27:12
  are. We are just making groundbreaking discoveries here at the Crypted Hunters tonight.
• 1:27:17
  Oh God, to goat goat feats, big feats. But yeah, well,
• 1:27:24
  um, I think I think that's that's our que right there, Donnie,
• 1:27:26
  what's you taking? This has been this has been a fantastic show.
• 1:27:29
  Yes, this has been an awesome show. Oh my god, thank you.
• 1:27:32
  Wrong. But that's not wrong. That's Crowley, Crowley, thank you,
• 1:27:35
  Big Feats. What's up Crowley? I know, well I've seen Crowley.
• 1:27:41
  You've been in my chat a couple of times lately. Thank you so
• 1:27:44
  much for being here. Big feats, So he says, big feats.
• 1:27:46
  We've got to We've got we've got divided. I think the audience is divided
• 1:27:50
  tonight. Yeah, Amy's here too. There's yes, the unicorn. We
• 1:27:59
  got unicorn Michigan Rob up in the chat tonight too. So someone didn't someone
• 1:28:04
  see a unicorn in the pine barrens Uh? We are starting the trend,
• 1:28:12
  guys. Um, you know what, Like I said before, if you
• 1:28:15
  look at the Jersey Devil, like a horse like thing with with these leathery
• 1:28:19
  wings, it's kind of like an evil pegasus, evil pegasus. Yeah,
• 1:28:26
  who was referring to my big feet? Y'all? Are y'all talking about my
• 1:28:29
  big feet? See? I miss it? I miss the innuendos here.
• 1:28:31
  I have no idea whatever I'm talking about. I don't even know what I'm
• 1:28:33
  talking about. You know what, I never understood, quite understood. Why
• 1:28:38
  was bigfoot never just called ape man? Right? We say dog, we
• 1:28:41
  say dog man. Why don't we just call them ape man? I mean
• 1:28:44
  essentially what they are man pretty an, it's very apropos. Ape man could
• 1:28:48
  be ape man. Absolutely? Okay, you mean to tell me the first
• 1:28:54
  guy who ever saw a big foot in America, his first thought was,
• 1:28:57
  look at its feet, it's called big feet. No, his first thought
• 1:28:59
  was, that's a nave man. Yeah, it's a primate in the woods.
• 1:29:03
  Absolutely, it's what it looked like. So, yeah, I don't
• 1:29:08
  know we're but hey, we're on the tell of these mysteries. We're gonna
• 1:29:10
  we're solving some of the stuff, Donnie. Even we might not be solving
• 1:29:13
  it, but we're at least shedding some light on it. And uh and
• 1:29:16
  just thinking, I don't know, it's just putting it out dere. So
• 1:29:19
  it's a lot of fun and this has been a blast with you tonight,
• 1:29:23
  Donnie. Thank you so much for joining me tonight. I want to thank
• 1:29:26
  everybody for all the super chats and super stickers. You guys are the best.
• 1:29:29
  Y'all. Your support me so much to me. And yes, thank
• 1:29:32
  you, thank you everybody for being here. This hasn't been a great show,
• 1:29:35
  Donnie. Where can people find you if they want to watch your shows?
• 1:29:40
  Well, I'm usually on Wednesday nights with my buddy Jason McClean on his
• 1:29:45
  show Jason McClean questions everything. We are on like a two channels. Actually
• 1:29:50
  it's Bigfoot Michigan Rob's Channel and Texas Front Porch. Check them out if you
• 1:29:55
  haven't already, because they also have a bunch of other really cool shows.
• 1:29:59
  U and the Booze are on there as well. They got they always have
• 1:30:02
  like really interesting guests and uh yeah, Robin Techs have their shows which are
• 1:30:08
  always good. Um yeah, I'm just a fan and I'm really grateful to
• 1:30:13
  be a part of it. So awesome. Well, um, well,
• 1:30:16
  you guys do a great job over there. It's a lot of fun to
• 1:30:19
  watch all and and we have BMR Bigfoot Michigan Rob in the chat tonight.
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  Thank you for all those super stickers. Um, y'all are y'all are hilarious,
• 1:30:29
  everybody is uh, I love everybody out here. Y'all, y'all are
• 1:30:31
  a lot of fun. And uh yes, thanks to all my moderators tonight.
• 1:30:35
  You guys are rocking it out and uh yes, you got big shout
• 1:30:39
  outs in the audience tonight. So um you're better go follow Texas Front porch
• 1:30:44
  and see real papers and Jason McLean questions everything and Bigfoot Michigan Rob and uh
• 1:30:49
  and Donnie yeah, Donnie, well we'll be we'll be checking you out,
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  okay, and please come back. Let's do some more of these shows together.
• 1:30:56
  You are so fun to hang out with and uh and you really do
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  that one idea I told you about backstage. I was like, oh,
• 1:31:04
  right, you go on, it's a secret. Let's keep it a secret
• 1:31:09
  until we do that one. That's gonna be a really good one because I've
• 1:31:12
  never heard of it. So okay, all right, well everybody, please
• 1:31:15
  y'all come join me this weekend. I'm gonna be at spaced Out Radio.
• 1:31:17
  I have, um actually, i have very littleton coming on Sunday night.
• 1:31:21
  We're gonna be making the connection of walking trees and shape shifting sasquatches. Okay,
• 1:31:28
  this is gonna be mine blow and I'm gonna set the show up after
• 1:31:30
  I get off tonight, off of this show, and uh and so y'all
• 1:31:32
  y'all look out for that. And then I have a show Saturday night at
• 1:31:35
  ten pm, both nights Eastern, So please come join us. It's gonna
• 1:31:40
  be a lot of fun. Okay, and uh so yeah, you guys,
• 1:31:44
  have a great night, Donnie think again, thanks again for being here
• 1:31:46
  and awesome. You're the best. I'll see y'all guys Saturday night. Have
• 1:31:53
  a good night, y'all. Baby made like baby, Baby