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Ross Fulton Analysis: How Matt Patricia Uses Simulated Pressure In Ohio State's Defense · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Thursday, September eleventh. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, Tom or the Ohio game in two days,
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  Speaker 1: the game against Michigan in seventy nine days. Today, we're
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  Speaker 1: bringing in Ross Fulton, the ex's and nosguru from Buckeyeheddle
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  Speaker 1: so Ross, on yesterday's show, we talked all about the
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State offense and it's seventy to nothing. You win
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  Speaker 1: over Grambling seventy points obviously a very good performance. Zero
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  Speaker 1: points on the defense, also a pretty good performance. Can't
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  Speaker 1: do much better than that. Even scored a touchdown on defense.
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  Speaker 1: So defense finished plus seven on the day. Pretty good
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  Speaker 1: day overall. So you know, I think not a huge surprise.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't show a ton of you know, they really
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  Speaker 1: didn't go deep into the playbook or anything, you know,
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  Speaker 1: compared to you know what, you know, it didn't didn't
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  Speaker 1: break a whole bunch of new ground in that Grembly game.
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  Speaker 1: You don't need to break out new stuff. But they
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  Speaker 1: did do some different things from what they did against Texas,
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  Speaker 1: especially upfront, and that was one of the things that
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  Speaker 1: you wanted to talk about today.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, so I'm relying again on the you know,
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  Speaker 2: the charting from Tyler Mayns at ballman ac on X
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  Speaker 2: highly recommend but compared to Texas, you know, you saw
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  Speaker 2: a lot more of the base overfront. Ohio States traditionally
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  Speaker 2: been a four down over team. I mean they're setting
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  Speaker 2: the three technique to the call and then the mic
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  Speaker 2: has the a gap inside the three technique compared to
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  Speaker 2: like the penny front the five to one or what
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  Speaker 2: Matt Patricia calls it a diamond, So I guess we
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  Speaker 2: could also use his terminology. But so you know, overfront
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  Speaker 2: they played in forty five percent of the time, which
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  Speaker 2: is a pretty significant jump compared to Texas, whereas the
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  Speaker 2: penny front was only twenty nine percent of the time.
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  Speaker 2: Just you know, so being used and then you know,
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  Speaker 2: within that we can get into the coverages and pressure
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  Speaker 2: as well. But you know, starting with the front. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, the one thing I want to note is
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  Speaker 2: even though they're sort of backed in some ways to
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  Speaker 2: the basics of what they've done in the past, there's
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  Speaker 2: also some variations, little subtle things within it that I
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  Speaker 2: think helps solve some of the issues they face in
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  Speaker 2: the past. Right So here we're looking again, So we
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  Speaker 2: got an overfront. This is actually set to the run
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  Speaker 2: strength or to the boundary where the inline tight end
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  Speaker 2: is away from the trips and the nickel. Usually they've
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  Speaker 2: set the overfront of the field. So there's some still
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  Speaker 2: some variation within that. But then one thing I want
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  Speaker 2: to note right away is that Ohio State's going to
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  Speaker 2: play cover two here. But one thing that they change
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  Speaker 2: about it is they run what's called a cover two invert.
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  Speaker 2: And so all that means is instead of the two
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  Speaker 2: deep droppers having deep house being the safeties, they're going
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  Speaker 2: to have the corners do that. They flip the responsibilities,
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  Speaker 2: and all that means in the in the you know,
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  Speaker 2: long story short is that now Jalen mcclaim the safety
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  Speaker 2: is responsible for that boundary sea gap instead of having
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  Speaker 2: a corner Jermaine Matthews be responsible for it.
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  Speaker 3: So we've seen that in the past.
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  Speaker 2: Like we've talked about, one of the limitations of what
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  Speaker 2: a High State's done in the past is when you've
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  Speaker 2: had to have Nichols or corners fill inside sea gaps
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  Speaker 2: away from the passing strength. Talked about that against Oregon
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  Speaker 2: last year. Oregan hit a big run against them when
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  Speaker 2: Jordan Hancock had to fill a sea gap. Talked about
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  Speaker 2: that against Michigan two years ago when Davidson ake Minosen
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  Speaker 2: in a similar setup had to fill an inside sea gap.
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  Speaker 2: So again just a little thing. But again you can
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  Speaker 2: just see from the backside of the play here that
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  Speaker 2: you know three technique as I said, to the field,
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  Speaker 2: then you have or to the boundary one technique.
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  Speaker 3: So that's your basic over front with here.
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  Speaker 2: The mic is actually Sunny styles because Arvill Reese isn't
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  Speaker 2: the game they tend to keep when they bring in
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  Speaker 2: Payton Pierce, they tend to keep him as the will
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  Speaker 2: linebacker and they pump style the styles over.
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  Speaker 3: He can play both. But yeah, so then to the backside,
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  Speaker 3: then you also see you know a basic.
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  Speaker 2: You know, uh defense against QB Reid or QB option
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  Speaker 2: concept with a scrape exchange. You know, I guess one
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  Speaker 2: thing that is often talked about, like when defensive coordinators
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  Speaker 2: have been the NFL for a long time, is like
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  Speaker 2: how they're going to handle some of the stuff you
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  Speaker 2: see in college that you don't see in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: The difference in the hash marks is always a big one.
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  Speaker 2: But another one is obviously the QB run game more
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  Speaker 2: a part of the NFL than it used to be,
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  Speaker 2: but still an issue. And this is actually sort of
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  Speaker 2: like a This is both a QB read option with
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  Speaker 2: a little air route RPO attached to it as well.
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  Speaker 2: But you can see how, you know, Kane Curry attacks
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  Speaker 2: the running back and you scrape exchange with Payton Piers
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  Speaker 2: coming over the top, and then he's able to make
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  Speaker 2: the play on the quarterback. So you know, again basic
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  Speaker 2: defensive concepts from the overfront against the QB spread run game.
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  Speaker 2: But I just think there's little variations within it that
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  Speaker 2: help minimize, you know, personnel mismatches, and I think again
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  Speaker 2: we'll be able to see that in the pressures and
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  Speaker 2: the coverages as well.
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  Speaker 1: Here all right, this next one we were talking before
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  Speaker 1: the show when you were explaining some different stuff they
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  Speaker 1: were doing in coverages, and my note on this play
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  Speaker 1: was just Caleb Downs doing Caleb Downs things, And frankly,
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  Speaker 1: I think there's probably some validity to both of what
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  Speaker 1: we said before about this one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes it's easy to start overlooking all the things
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  Speaker 2: that Caleb Downs does and obviously that offers you a
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  Speaker 2: lot of versatility. But just like from a big picture perspective,
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  Speaker 2: again with the fronts Ohio State we talked about against
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  Speaker 2: Texas played a lot of Cover three in this game,
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  Speaker 2: a lot more Cover one or man coverage with a
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  Speaker 2: deep saatefety you know that according to Tyler Maydes, again
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  Speaker 2: they played it Cover one a third of the time,
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  Speaker 2: so that's a pretty significant jump, and you know, mixed
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  Speaker 2: in with Cover three and then some Cover two, so
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  Speaker 2: again still primarily like a single high, middle of the
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  Speaker 2: field closed defense, but mixing in enough split safety concepts
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  Speaker 2: that teams can't know what's coming.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like the Jeff Hafley era, where for as
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  Speaker 2: good as that defense was, it was single high all
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  Speaker 2: the time and eventually you know, you get got on that.
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  Speaker 2: This is like you know, I think between Cover two
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  Speaker 2: and Cover four they're running out of like you know,
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  Speaker 2: a little over twenty to twenty five percent of the time,
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  Speaker 2: so you're still mixing it up. And there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of disguise in here too, and so but you know
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  Speaker 2: they're again just I just like subtle things. I guess
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  Speaker 2: is the is the theme of the day for me.
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  Speaker 2: But like, so here Ohio State's running cover one. The
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  Speaker 2: first thing is again you just see the disguise, right,
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  Speaker 2: Like Kale Downs to your point, he like he's ready
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  Speaker 2: to drop into two deep coverage.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So last week we showed Ohio State showed like what
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  Speaker 2: looked like cover zero and had McLain drop way back
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  Speaker 2: from a Y nine to play cover two, right, and
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  Speaker 2: I saw that they did that again on Saturday. But
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  Speaker 2: here you're doing the opposite where you're trying to show
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  Speaker 2: some cover two. You're dropping down to cover one. Caleb
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  Speaker 2: Downs has the tight end as we talked about. But
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  Speaker 2: another little thing is like you have a deep over
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  Speaker 2: route here from the single wide receiver to the boundary
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  Speaker 2: and so but instead of just chasing that wide receiver
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  Speaker 2: and cover one, they're going to trade it off, right,
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  Speaker 2: So the deep safety picks up that route, and then
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  Speaker 2: the backside corner becomes the deep safety. So again just
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  Speaker 2: like little things that are like you're trying to minimize
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  Speaker 2: like every coverage, every concept has it's on defense has
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  Speaker 2: its weaknesses, right, and so you know one of them
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  Speaker 2: is like cover one. As Ryan Day often talks about,
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  Speaker 2: you want to run away from coverage. So you're just
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  Speaker 2: trying to minimize, you know how the offense is a
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  Speaker 2: bilit need to do so by trading off routes. So
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  Speaker 2: I just think there's like subtle little things going on
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  Speaker 2: here that I think helped protect against some of the
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  Speaker 2: weaknesses that we've seen High of State have in the
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  Speaker 2: past and some of their base concepts.
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  Speaker 1: You've mentioned Tyler Mains a couple of times on here.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to let people know if you're on
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  Speaker 1: You can follow him there good good resource for schematic
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  Speaker 1: stuff and Ohio State stuff in particular, so you can
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  Speaker 1: find that there. Next one play number three, this is
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  Speaker 1: a good example of Ohio State bringing pressure and bringing
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  Speaker 1: pressure from multiple different levels of the defense.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just like on a sort of bigger picture note,
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  Speaker 2: I know, I think there's probably anything I guess about
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  Speaker 2: the high of State defense at this point, maybe some
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  Speaker 2: concerned consternation about the defensive line pass rush maybe. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I think they've been really sad against the rhyme. Like
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  Speaker 2: Cain McDonald particular, I most noted when he caused the
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  Speaker 2: fumble return for a touchdown the first play to the
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  Speaker 2: third quarter, has been really disruptive as a noseguard, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean some of that is like the odd or
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  Speaker 3: the penny fronts.
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  Speaker 2: Like one downside is you're you're not necessarily in a
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  Speaker 2: you know, position to get up the field. Like that's
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  Speaker 2: the plus and minuses of a one gap system. When
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  Speaker 2: you're in between offensive linemen, you're just using those defensive
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  Speaker 2: linemen tackles ends and contained sometimes or keeping rush lanes.
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  Speaker 2: So I think it sort of remains to be seen.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, you did see in this game an
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  Speaker 2: increase as well in the pressure rate. So I State
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  Speaker 2: bringing four more rushers, uh, and so you know against
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  Speaker 2: Texas it was mostly simp four man rushes sometimes sim
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  Speaker 2: pressures like we talked about this is actually a six
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  Speaker 2: man cover one uh pressure. But you know, again like
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  Speaker 2: so you're faking like you're bringing you obviously walking up
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  Speaker 2: styles or are excuse me, he drops out. But then
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  Speaker 2: both Caleb Downs and style come from the back or
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  Speaker 2: from the weak side, and so again you're showing pressure
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  Speaker 2: bringing it from different angles. But one little thing to
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  Speaker 2: note again is like when you have these six million pressures, right,
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  Speaker 2: you're and you're running cover one, you're down a body
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  Speaker 2: if the back immediately releases, and so you see from
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  Speaker 2: kid Curry to the field that what's called appeel technique.
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  Speaker 2: So he's responsible for if he sees that back immediately release,
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  Speaker 2: breaking off his rush and covering the back to the flat,
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  Speaker 2: which he does, and they limit it to a minimal gain.
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  Speaker 2: So again I just think, again a little small thing, right,
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  Speaker 2: but like these small things add up in terms of
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  Speaker 2: like playing sound defense and executing these kind of responsibilities,
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  Speaker 2: particularly if you're going to use a variety of pressure
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  Speaker 2: looks to make sure you're still sound in the back.
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  Speaker 1: End, and they use pressure looks in this last clip
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  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about. This is the Caleb Downs
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  Speaker 1: interception play. And this is one Tonyman and I did
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  Speaker 1: the game Rewatch show on the Buckeye Weekly Feed a
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  Speaker 1: day or two ago, and this is one where I
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  Speaker 1: just my jaw dropped when I watched this one, because
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  Speaker 1: Caleb Downs shows sim pressure enough to get the guard
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  Speaker 1: to come, you know, come and try and block him,
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  Speaker 1: and then he drops, which gives Sunny Styles a clear lane,
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  Speaker 1: a clear run at the quarterback. And then because that
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  Speaker 1: then Sunny's Caleb Downs drops into coverage and somehow gets
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  Speaker 1: back there fast enough to intercept the pass that it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was just an incredible individual effort. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: yes it's grambling, but also that was incredible.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's just again another example of like all
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  Speaker 2: the sim pressures that Matt Patricia is using, right, because
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  Speaker 2: you're again, as you said, you're showing essentially a five
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  Speaker 2: man front here, right, it kind of looks like the
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  Speaker 2: Penny even though you've walked up two linebackers, but you're
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  Speaker 2: covered up every offensive lineman. But those both Caleb Downs
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  Speaker 2: and right Pettage on they engage those guards and then
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  Speaker 2: they drop as sort of underneath hook defender's eyes on
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  Speaker 2: the quarterback. We've talked about that with that train concept
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  Speaker 2: last year with Jim Knowles, that like to use with
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  Speaker 2: cover zero where you're just sort of drop, you you're
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  Speaker 2: showing pressure and then kind of dropping two guys in
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  Speaker 2: the underneath zone.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the purpose of it is exactly what you see, right,
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  Speaker 3: So like as.
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  Speaker 2: A quarterback sort of the like the first rule you
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  Speaker 2: learn about UH handling blitzes is to throw out where
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  Speaker 2: the blitz is coming from, because in theory, that's where
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  Speaker 2: the unoccupied area will be. So that quarterback he thinks
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  Speaker 2: he's got a slant route coming underneath the pressure. And
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  Speaker 2: obviously Caleb Downs, as you said, does an amazing job
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  Speaker 2: just in terms of Lettuce isn't.
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  Speaker 3: Getting back and make the play.
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  Speaker 2: But the pressure works is intended right because by faking
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  Speaker 2: or feigning that blitz from both Downs and pettige On,
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  Speaker 2: you lock up both those guards. So those guards decide
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  Speaker 2: they need to engage that just lets as you said,
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  Speaker 2: Styles come completely touched through the A gap because the
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  Speaker 2: nose guards using sort of a contained technique pulls the
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  Speaker 2: center to the opposite A gap, allow Styles to come untouched,
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  Speaker 2: forces the quick throw, and leads the Downs interception. So
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  Speaker 2: pretty much like exactly what you're looking for when you
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  Speaker 2: use a simp pressure like this and you're kind of
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  Speaker 2: dropping a couple guys underneath like that to keep eyes
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  Speaker 2: on the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: This weekend, the Bucket Buckeyes will take on the Ohio Bobcats. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: this is not you know, twenty twenty Alabama by any means,
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  Speaker 1: but it's going to be a team that's going to
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  Speaker 1: be a little more, a little more skilled, a little
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  Speaker 1: more exciting on offense. Their quarterback Parker Navarro can make
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  Speaker 1: some plays happen with his legs. Anything in particular, you're
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  Speaker 1: looking for Ohio from Ohio State as they deal with
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  Speaker 1: you know, there was a little bit of a running
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  Speaker 1: threat each of the last couple of weeks. Anything different
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  Speaker 1: from Ohio State this week or is it kind of
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  Speaker 1: you're going to kind of stick with what you did
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  Speaker 1: again starch manning and kind of you know, no need
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  Speaker 1: to do.
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  Speaker 3: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Yeah, it'll be interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Ohio's head coach was came originally from Washington State, you know,
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  Speaker 2: sort of the Mike Leach air raid sort of protege
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  Speaker 2: not protege, but you know, uh Tree coaching Tree. I
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  Speaker 2: guess if you will, uh several runs removed, so you
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  Speaker 2: know you'll see lots of quick game, lots of r pos.
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  Speaker 2: They'll run for verticals a lot of way. So it'll
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  Speaker 2: be interesting again to just see, you know, we just
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  Speaker 2: don't quite have enough talk is going through all the
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  Speaker 2: tyler mains, you know, to two games doesn't make a
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  Speaker 2: huge sample size, but could be a game where we
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  Speaker 2: see more of like the three safety Tampa two with
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  Speaker 2: Kleb downs the middle safety take away some of those
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  Speaker 2: quick game and r PO throws and you know, but
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  Speaker 2: probably you know, it seems to me that Ohio State's
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  Speaker 2: going to principally be middle of the field. As I said,
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  Speaker 2: covered team, but I think you'll see some mixing and matching,
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  Speaker 2: uh to handle the variety of passing concepts that oh
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  Speaker 2: You will use.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we will find out how the Buckeyes will defend
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  Speaker 1: the Bobcats on Saturday night at seven. That game is
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  Speaker 1: and then next week Russ will be back to break
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