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MINISTRY RESTORING PATTERNS · Apostle Joshua Selman

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  Speaker 1: Us this afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, let's welcome Apostle Joshua Selman as he
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  Speaker 2: blesses us today. A true apostle Joshua.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. He's so so very much um It's my pleasure.
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  Speaker 1: I want us to honor the state chairman of PFN.
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  Speaker 1: I truly honor you, sir. Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 2: And then all the executives, I have learned the difference
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  Speaker 2: between people as friends, brothers, and in their official capacity.
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  Speaker 1: And I will never abuse that.
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  Speaker 2: I honor every single one of you in that capacity.
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  Speaker 2: Let's give them a big, big God bless you. In
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  Speaker 2: the name of Jesus. And I want to salute and
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  Speaker 2: honor every man of God.
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  Speaker 1: Most people here are preachers.
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  Speaker 2: We do not do the things that we do because
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  Speaker 2: we're necessarily better. It's an election of grace and the
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  Speaker 2: mercy of God. My comment here this afternoon is to
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  Speaker 2: help by the Spirit to make contributions to our efficiency
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  Speaker 2: as ministers.
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  Speaker 1: Of the gospel and then under this umbrella.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm hoping that The few minutes that we have
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  Speaker 2: to spend together that God will add grace to grace,
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  Speaker 2: faith to faith in the name of Jesus, in the
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  Speaker 2: name of Jesus Christ. Pastor Godman, again, I honor you.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so very much. Let's lift our hands and
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  Speaker 2: ask the Lord to speak to us within these minutes
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  Speaker 2: that we have to share fellowship together.
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  Speaker 1: Someone is praying. My heart is opened. Speak to me.
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  Speaker 2: Let the words bring perspective to my efficiency as a
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  Speaker 2: minister of the gospel. Let PFN go from glory to glory.
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  Speaker 2: In Jesus mighty name we pray. Help us this afternoon
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  Speaker 2: spirit of the living God. Speak to us. Cause us
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  Speaker 2: to understand. And that we make progress in life, destiny
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  Speaker 2: and even in ministry. To you be all the glory.
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  Speaker 2: For in Jesus name we pray. Please you may be
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  Speaker 2: gloriously seated. Again, God bless you. I'll be talking about
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  Speaker 2: three things very quickly. This is what the Holy Spirit
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  Speaker 2: placed upon my heart as a contribution to all the discussions.
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  Speaker 2: I understand that we have been under the influence of
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  Speaker 2: various speakers with vast experiences across leadership and ministry. And
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  Speaker 2: so this is an addition to the things that we
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  Speaker 2: have learned from this morning and I'm praying that what
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  Speaker 2: we'll be hearing will truly add value to our spiritual.
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  Speaker 1: Understanding in the name of Jesus. In the name of Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: So I'll be talking across three areas very, very quickly
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  Speaker 2: and then hopefully we'll get to pray. And I consider
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  Speaker 2: this a very great opportunity because I have learned from
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  Speaker 2: scripture and by experience that The quality of believers across
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  Speaker 2: any territory is a reflection of the kind and the
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  Speaker 2: quality of priesthood within that territory also.
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  Speaker 1: Are we together?
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  Speaker 2: That means when you sample believers in no particular order
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  Speaker 2: in Lagos, it should be able to give you an
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  Speaker 2: accurate feedback as to the quality of men and women
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  Speaker 2: of God that we have serving his purposes here. And
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  Speaker 2: so everyone here represents at least 10, 20, 30, 40 people,
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  Speaker 2: a network of churches. So in speaking to one leader,
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  Speaker 2: you are literally speaking to thousands of people. And it's
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  Speaker 2: a very noble honor.
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  Speaker 1: Hallelujah.
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  Speaker 2: Two scriptures, Acts chapter 4, I mean Colossians chapter 4
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  Speaker 2: and verse 17. Colossians 4 and verse 17, let me
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  Speaker 2: quote it quickly for sake of time. It says, say
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  Speaker 2: unto Archippus, that you take heed to the ministry that
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  Speaker 2: thou has obtained or received in.
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  Speaker 1: The Lord, that thou fulfill it.
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  Speaker 2: Paul was speaking to his son in the gospel and
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  Speaker 2: he says to say unto Archippus that you take heed.
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  Speaker 2: The word take heed there means be attentive, be discerning,
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  Speaker 2: be careful, be intentional over the ministry that thou has
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  Speaker 2: received in the Lord. Notice he never said the ministry
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  Speaker 2: you receive from the Lord. To receive from the Lord
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  Speaker 2: means you don't need a relationship. To receive in the
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  Speaker 2: Lord means it is a byproduct of an encounter.
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  Speaker 1: Are we together?
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  Speaker 2: The ministry you have received in the Lord. Ministry is
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  Speaker 2: not just received from the Lord. It is received in
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  Speaker 2: the Lord. A derivative of your knowing God. You're loving Him.
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  Speaker 2: You're pressing into the things of God. Let's consider one
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  Speaker 2: more scripture. Acts chapter 20 and verse 19. profound scripture
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  Speaker 2: this is a call and a charge to shepherds those
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  Speaker 2: who love jesus acts 20 28 may i request that
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  Speaker 2: we read it in concert together ready one to read
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  Speaker 2: take heed therefore unto yourselves uh-huh and to all the
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  Speaker 2: flock which the holy ghost has made you overseers to
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  Speaker 2: feed the church of god.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like us to read it one more time. One, two, go.
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  Speaker 2: Take heed therefore unto yourselves and to all the flock
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  Speaker 2: over which the Holy Ghost had made you overseers to
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  Speaker 2: feed the church of God which he had purchased.
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  Speaker 1: Hallelujah. Dr.
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  Speaker 2: Gweli made a statement that I heard and it was
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  Speaker 2: very profound and I think I would like.
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  Speaker 1: To start from there.
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  Speaker 2: It matters... that we understand God's program. This is the
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  Speaker 2: first thing that I need to talk about. And with
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  Speaker 2: all due respect, I think one of the major issues
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  Speaker 2: that has affected the efficiency of priesthood within this nation,
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  Speaker 2: across the African continent, is that for most people, there
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  Speaker 2: is no clarity and definition as to God's program. So
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  Speaker 2: if you ask a pastor... what are you doing exactly?
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  Speaker 2: You can say, God said, go and raise me a people.
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  Speaker 2: And while that may be true, it is not concise
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  Speaker 2: enough to produce efficiency. The average pastor is at a
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  Speaker 2: loss as to God's program. Most men and women of God,
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  Speaker 2: with all due respect, cannot give you an intelligent presentation
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  Speaker 2: of Of God's program.
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  Speaker 1: Which is the basis for ministry. Are we together?
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  Speaker 2: And once that centrality of God's program does not govern
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  Speaker 2: your church activity. Does not govern your sermons. Does not
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  Speaker 2: govern your conferences. It is natural to veer off into
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  Speaker 2: error and even compromise.
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  Speaker 1: Are we together now?
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  Speaker 2: It matters that every preacher, every man of God, every intercessor,
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  Speaker 2: every general overseer, every superintendent, you must be able to
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  Speaker 2: know this for yourself and then raise leaders after this understanding.
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  Speaker 2: What exactly is God's program? What is God about across
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  Speaker 2: the nations?
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  Speaker 1: Are we together now?
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  Speaker 2: And I want to say this, and I say this
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  Speaker 2: with a burden in my heart, but with every sense
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  Speaker 2: of respect. there are certain things that are not left
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  Speaker 2: to personal revelation. One of it is God's program. God's
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  Speaker 2: program is not just revealed to an individual as a secret.
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  Speaker 2: It is a template that is available to everyone who.
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  Speaker 1: Desires to serve him. Are we together now?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Because I think one of the challenges, I will
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  Speaker 2: wrap up by identifying a few challenges with the Nigerian
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  Speaker 2: church and hopefully preferring a few solutions.
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  Speaker 1: And one of it is, is.
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  Speaker 2: The abuse of God said. The abuse of I had
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  Speaker 2: the Holy Spirit. The abuse of it has brought a
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  Speaker 2: lot of chaos, disorderliness. Just because it's a spiritual affair
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  Speaker 2: does not mean it cannot be vetted.
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  Speaker 1: Are we together now? Yeah, so I can come up with.
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  Speaker 2: Anything and because spirituality or the faith work is a
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  Speaker 2: relationship between me and God, I can say this is
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  Speaker 2: what God told me. But then there are standards according
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  Speaker 2: to scripture to judge spirits and to test all spirits.
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  Speaker 1: Are we learning already? So let me not go ahead
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  Speaker 1: of myself.
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  Speaker 2: According to scripture and theologically we have come to know
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  Speaker 2: God's agenda to be.
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  Speaker 1: Called the Great Commission.
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  Speaker 2: And while that is very simple enough, most people do
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  Speaker 2: not have a very concise picture of as to what
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  Speaker 2: the Great Commission is all about. If you probe into
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  Speaker 2: the understanding of the average pastor, you will find people
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  Speaker 2: who tell you the Great Commission is about evangelism. You
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  Speaker 2: are right, but it is incomplete. Others talk about transformation.
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  Speaker 2: You are right, but you are incomplete. The Great Commission,
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  Speaker 2: as we know, is holistically revealed across three scriptures. There
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  Speaker 2: are three scriptures all together, That really form the basis
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  Speaker 2: for the great cause. I'll just run through them and
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  Speaker 2: then I'll list it out for sake of time. Number
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  Speaker 2: one is found in Mark chapter 16, please. Mark chapter
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  Speaker 2: 16 from verse 15 down to 20.
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  Speaker 1: Jesus himself is speaking. This is the first piece of.
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  Speaker 2: What we know as the Great Commission that represents God's agenda.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone in ministry should be about this.
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  Speaker 1: This is the construction.
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  Speaker 2: This is literally the vision of all that we do.
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  Speaker 2: Being casted from scripture. And he said unto them, go
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  Speaker 2: ye into all the world and preach. Preach the gospel
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  Speaker 2: to every creature. Verse 16, it says.
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  Speaker 1: He.
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  Speaker 2: That believeth and is baptized shall be saved, and he
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  Speaker 2: that does not believe shall be damned. So the first
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  Speaker 2: part of the Great Commission has to do with the
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  Speaker 2: preaching of the gospel. The second part of the Great
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  Speaker 2: Commission is found in Matthew chapter 28 from verse 18.
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  Speaker 2: Matthew chapter 28 from verse 18.
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  Speaker 1: Same Jesus speaking. This is Matthew's synoptic account.
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  Speaker 2: Jesus came and spoke unto them, saying, all authority is
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  Speaker 2: given unto me in heaven and in the earth. And
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  Speaker 2: he says, go ye therefore, verse 19 now, go ye
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  Speaker 2: therefore and teach. Now we see that he's going beyond
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  Speaker 2: preaching and teach all nations.
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  Speaker 1: Mark's account says, preach the gospel to every creature.
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  Speaker 2: Now Matthew is saying, Teach all nations, baptizing them in
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  Speaker 2: the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to go into the theological debate of this.
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  Speaker 2: That's not my assignment now. Are we together now?
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  Speaker 1: Verse 20.
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  Speaker 2: It says, teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I
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  Speaker 2: have commanded you. And while you are about this business,
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  Speaker 2: know that I am.
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  Speaker 1: With you all the way on to the end of
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  Speaker 1: the world. Please say amen.
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  Speaker 2: So the first aspect of the Great Commission representing God's
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  Speaker 2: agenda has to do with the preaching of the gospel
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  Speaker 2: and then the teaching, discipleship. The last aspect is found
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  Speaker 2: in Acts chapter 1 from verse 6. Acts chapter 1
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  Speaker 2: verse 6. Jesus is having his final sessions with the
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  Speaker 2: disciples so that they would receive the Holy Ghost. And
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  Speaker 2: they came to him and said, Lord, will thou at
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  Speaker 2: this time restore the kingdom of Israel? The next verse,
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  Speaker 2: Jesus replies and says, it is not for you to
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  Speaker 2: know the times and the seasons which the Father has
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  Speaker 2: put in his own power. Verse 8 now says, but
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  Speaker 2: you shall receive power after that the Holy Ghost is
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  Speaker 2: come upon you and that empowerment will cause.
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  Speaker 1: You to be witnesses.
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  Speaker 2: And he defines the geography of the witness.
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  Speaker 1: First Jerusalem, then Judea, then Samaria.
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  Speaker 2: The entire goal is the outermost part of the earth.
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  Speaker 2: When you combine Mark 16, Matthew 28, and Acts chapter 1,
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  Speaker 2: it gives you the whole picture of what we call
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  Speaker 2: the Great Commission.
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  Speaker 1: Now, the challenge, I came from an evangelical background.
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  Speaker 2: And so I understand a bit of the limitations as
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  Speaker 2: we have been mentored into understanding the Great Commission. Because
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  Speaker 2: on the one hand, we have people who the entire
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  Speaker 2: scope of understanding God's agenda is evangelism. And that is important.
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  Speaker 2: But like you will be learning, and I think Dr.
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  Speaker 2: Ogwele talked a bit about that. By the time you
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  Speaker 2: bring in the harvest and leave the harvest that way,
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  Speaker 2: there are consequences.
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  Speaker 1: Even though you gathered the harvest. Are we together now? Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And then he talks about teaching and then he talks
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  Speaker 2: about being witnesses. What is the Great Commission? I wrote
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  Speaker 2: here that the Great Commission is a mandate given by
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  Speaker 2: Jesus to then his disciples but today to all believers.
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  Speaker 2: A mandate given by Jesus Christ it was then to
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  Speaker 2: his disciples but now to all believers.
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  Speaker 1: To reach the entire globe. Please listen.
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  Speaker 2: To reach the entire globe. With the gospel of salvation.
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  Speaker 2: To bring nations. To the knowledge of the truth. Through discipleship.
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  Speaker 2: And to consequently bring territorial. And societal transformation. I will
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  Speaker 2: take that again. That the great commission. As given by Jesus.
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  Speaker 1: Is a mandate.
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  Speaker 2: To reach the entire globe with the gospel of salvation.
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  Speaker 2: To bring nations to the knowledge of the truth through discipleship.
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  Speaker 2: And to consequently bring territorial and societal transformation. Immediately you
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  Speaker 2: see that there are three aspects to the Great Commission.
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  Speaker 2: And every time you deviate from any one of these,
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  Speaker 2: you will corrupt the programs. Number one, the first aspect
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  Speaker 2: of the Great Commission is world evangelization. World evangelization. World evangelization.
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  Speaker 2: Reaching the lost.
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  Speaker 1: The Bible says that God desires that all men be saved.
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  Speaker 1: All men be saved. All men be saved. All men
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  Speaker 1: be saved. World evangelization. World evangelization.
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  Speaker 2: Statistically, there are about 8.1 billion people upon the earth. 8.1
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  Speaker 2: billion people. I hope my statistics is still right. 8.1
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  Speaker 2: billion people. And there's just a little over 2.6 billion
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  Speaker 2: professing Christians. Statistically confirmed across the earth. Now we have
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  Speaker 2: a mandate to reach the entire globe. Ladies and gentlemen,
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  Speaker 2: it should challenge us that in spite of the churches,
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  Speaker 2: the crusades, the conventions, the programs, the advantage of internet,
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  Speaker 2: intellectual privileges that we have, we have not been able
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  Speaker 2: to cover even 30%. Or 40% of it. And yet
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  Speaker 2: we believe that we're in the end times. We believe
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  Speaker 2: that we're wrapping up the church age.
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  Speaker 1: Are we together?
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  Speaker 2: That means that we have not been doing a very
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  Speaker 2: effective job.
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  Speaker 1: From a statistical standpoint.
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  Speaker 2: That if we have about 2.6 billion professing Christians. This
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  Speaker 2: includes everything from backsliders to those who just identify with
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  Speaker 2: the faith.
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  Speaker 1: We're not talking of those who are genuinely saved.
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  Speaker 2: Those who have filled a form and wrote there that
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  Speaker 2: I am a Christian.
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  Speaker 1: Even if they are idol worshippers. Are we together?
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  Speaker 2: Now, but look at this. Let me challenge you for
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  Speaker 2: a moment. How many of you know that our social
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  Speaker 2: media applications, I'm not sure that most of the applications
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  Speaker 2: that we depend helplessly on are even more than 20
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  Speaker 2: to 25 years. Yet, somebody brought an idea that broke
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  Speaker 2: the barrier of boundary. Somebody brought an idea that broke
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  Speaker 2: the barrier of religion. Somebody brought an idea that broke
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  Speaker 2: the barrier of education.
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  Speaker 1: And it's been received by more people upon the earth.
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  Speaker 2: Within 20 years, someone sat in his room and formulated
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  Speaker 2: an idea that has made the old.
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  Speaker 1: And young, male and female, Christians and.
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  Speaker 2: non-Christians helplessly glued to those applications. It means there is
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  Speaker 2: a formula for a more effective world evangelization.
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  Speaker 1: Are we together now?
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  Speaker 2: If within 20 years, young people barely in their 20s
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  Speaker 2: came up with an idea, an idea without the active
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  Speaker 2: acknowledgement of the contribution of.
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  Speaker 1: The Holy Spirit. Are we together? Are we together?
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  Speaker 2: They never came up to say, I open to you
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  Speaker 2: that the Holy Spirit, they never attended an impartation service.
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  Speaker 2: They never received a prophetic word. And yet they came
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  Speaker 2: up with an idea that all of us prophets and apostles,
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  Speaker 2: with all the anointing, with all due respect, we are
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  Speaker 2: helplessly dependent on those applications. It means there is something
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  Speaker 2: God can place upon our lives. That will cause the
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  Speaker 2: advancement of the gospel. To break barriers. The level of inefficiency.
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  Speaker 2: That we are experiencing in our evangelism.
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  Speaker 1: Should be a concern for anyone who loves Jesus. Are
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  Speaker 1: we together? Yes sir. Number two. The second aspect of
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  Speaker 1: the great commission. Is discipleship.
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  Speaker 2: Transforming believers. Through discipleship. transforming believers to discipleship. It matters
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  Speaker 2: what we do with the harvest. Jesus called us fishers
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  Speaker 2: of men. And once you fish, you don't drop the
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  Speaker 2: fish there like that.
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  Speaker 1: You have to work on it. Discipleship. I can tell
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  Speaker 1: you this and I.
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  Speaker 2: Submit to you that the missing ingredient in the kind
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  Speaker 2: and the quality of believers that have come out from
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  Speaker 2: this nation and Africa is largely a product of the
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  Speaker 2: poor unknown. level of discipleship whatsoever. The average believer is
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  Speaker 2: not methodically mentored into understanding God and understanding the ways
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  Speaker 2: of God. Acts chapter 20 and verse 32 says, And now, brethren,
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  Speaker 2: I commend you to God and to the word of
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  Speaker 2: his grace, which is able to build you up, number one,
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  Speaker 2: and then to give you an inheritance among them that
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  Speaker 2: are sanctified. It says, and that from a child. Thou
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  Speaker 2: hast known the Holy Scripture which is able to make
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  Speaker 2: you wise unto salvation. The Bible says an heir for
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  Speaker 2: as long as that is a child that he differeth
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  Speaker 2: not from a slave even though he be Lord of all.
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  Speaker 1: Are we learning now?
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  Speaker 2: Paul said when I came to you I couldn't speak
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  Speaker 2: of these things because you are still yet as babes
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  Speaker 2: and not spiritual. The average believer cannot defend his spiritual understanding.
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  Speaker 2: We know a little of everything, a little of prayer here,
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  Speaker 2: a little of fasting here, a little of breakthrough, a
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  Speaker 2: little of finances. Our growth module is so scattered, it
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  Speaker 2: does not produce a people of stature. Nobody attends lecture
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  Speaker 2: in any class in the university and receives a degree.
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  Speaker 2: The program is constructive. That's why you can predict that
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  Speaker 2: this naive student in six years can be a medical
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  Speaker 2: doctor because of the quality of the content.
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  Speaker 1: Beyond even the lecturer's ability.
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  Speaker 2: Are we together? We must obtain grace from God. I'm
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  Speaker 2: challenging us in righteousness and with all humility. Let's stop
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  Speaker 2: maintaining members. Let's raise witnesses. The consciousness of maintenance of membership.
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  Speaker 2: Ten years in church and they cannot defend their spiritual understandings.
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  Speaker 2: But let me bring the test to us with all
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  Speaker 2: due respect. Dear man of God, dear woman of God,
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  Speaker 2: dear co-laborer in the gospel. Let me ask you a question.
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  Speaker 2: What do you know about prayer? What do you know
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  Speaker 2: about Satan? What do you know about Jesus? What do
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  Speaker 2: you know about salvation? What do you know about increase?
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  Speaker 2: What do you know about leadership? What do you know
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  Speaker 2: about the anointing? What do you know about the Holy Spirit?
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  Speaker 2: What do you know about warfare? What do you know
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  Speaker 2: about growth? What do you know about restoration? What do
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  Speaker 2: you know about administration? What do you know about conflict management?
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  Speaker 2: These are the bodies of spiritual understanding that makes an
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  Speaker 2: individual a leader indeed. You cannot help the people at
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  Speaker 2: the same level of understanding with them. Are we together now?
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  Speaker 2: Jesus called the people blind, leading the blind. He was
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  Speaker 2: not insulting them. He was describing their spiritual states. Pick
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  Speaker 2: an average member, five of them. Put them on stage
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  Speaker 2: and ask them questions. Talk to me about the gospel.
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  Speaker 2: You will be surprised. The person is the head of
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  Speaker 2: ushering and he does not know what the gospel is.
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  Speaker 2: I just know that Jesus died. Okay, how do you
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  Speaker 2: lead an unbeliever to become a child of God? Well,
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  Speaker 2: you confess the prayer. What does he say? Because it
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  Speaker 2: is not every information about Jesus that saves.
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  Speaker 1: There is an exact.
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  Speaker 2: Body of information about Jesus that.
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  Speaker 1: Translates to salvation.
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  Speaker 2: He said, let it be known to you, O Israel,
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  Speaker 2: that this same Jesus you have crucified has today been
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  Speaker 2: exalted as Lord and Christ.
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  Speaker 1: And 3,000 people came. Are we learning?
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  Speaker 2: We need to go back and probe the basis for
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  Speaker 2: our discipleship.
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  Speaker 1: Because the truth is, I hate to.
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  Speaker 2: Say this, but many ministers are genuinely called, but they
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  Speaker 2: are ill prepared.
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  Speaker 1: It shows in the kinds of sermons that we bring.
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  Speaker 2: Show us in the centrality We bring a lot of
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  Speaker 2: sermons That are clearly not doctrinal They are largely opinions
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  Speaker 2: Or just copying from one person to the other Or a.
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  Speaker 1: Transfer from poor mentorship Are we together?
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  Speaker 2: What do you know about prayer? What do you know
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  Speaker 2: about fasting? What do you know about oils? What do
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  Speaker 2: you know about mantles? What do you know about Satan
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  Speaker 2: and demons? With all due respect. And I say this
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  Speaker 2: with every humility. Sense of humility. If I call any
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  Speaker 2: man of God here in no particular order. And give
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  Speaker 2: you the mic. I say take five minutes out of
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  Speaker 2: my time.
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  Speaker 1: Teach us. How do we take over territories? We all
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  Speaker 1: want growth. But what is the formula?
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  Speaker 2: Because Jesus said the church is built. There must be
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  Speaker 2: a formula. No architect begins to build without a formula.
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  Speaker 2: What is the master plan? We are called master builders.
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  Speaker 2: And God wants us to be wise master builders.
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  Speaker 1: Another question.
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  Speaker 2: Can you tell me the kind of believer you are
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  Speaker 2: producing from your teaching every day?
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  Speaker 1: If you don't have the picture, something is wrong.
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  Speaker 2: A lecturer already has a picture of the kind of
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  Speaker 2: student he's producing.
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  Speaker 1: From the first day of the.
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  Speaker 2: Lecture, he can assure the people that in five years,
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  Speaker 2: an architect is coming out of this lecture. Can you
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  Speaker 2: define the kind of believer that our Sunday sermons, our conferences,
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  Speaker 2: what kind of believer is in the mind of your spirit?
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  Speaker 1: Discipleship.
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  Speaker 2: The key to effective discipleship is to understand doctrine. The
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  Speaker 2: word doctrine comes from the Latin word doctrina. It means
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  Speaker 2: a body of truth that turns a disciple to become.
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  Speaker 1: Like his master. Doctrine. Doctrines are not opinions.
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  Speaker 2: The Bible says in Acts chapter 2 and verse 42,
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  Speaker 2: it says, and they continued steadfastly in the apostles' doctrine
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  Speaker 2: and in fellowship and in the breaking of bread and
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  Speaker 2: in prayer. That was the apostolic model that was given
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  Speaker 2: to them. Is God helping us? Every man of God
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  Speaker 2: who loves Jesus and loves his program must go back.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm saying this, I'm just speaking apostolically to the
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  Speaker 2: body of Christ. We need to re-examine our spiritual understanding
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  Speaker 2: because that is where our sermons come from. There are
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  Speaker 2: sermons that don't profit the spiritual lives of the people
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  Speaker 2: nor build them to become effective witnesses. So here is
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  Speaker 2: the progression. Everybody starts as an unbeliever. In iniquity did
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  Speaker 2: my mother conceive me.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody. Nobody inherits salvation from the womb. Are we together? So,
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  Speaker 1: the journey is that you start as an unbeliever. Please
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  Speaker 1: watch this.
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  Speaker 2: And then by acknowledging the substitutionary sacrifice of Christ, translating
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  Speaker 2: to eternal life, you get to the next level. You
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  Speaker 2: are a believer. And when you become a believer, there
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  Speaker 2: are three stages. There is a babe. One who is
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  Speaker 2: just saved, an infant, but void of spiritual understanding. The
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  Speaker 2: moment you get transformed, God introduces you to three ministries
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  Speaker 2: to continue the journey to your maturity. Number one is
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  Speaker 2: the ministry of the Holy Spirit. Number two is the
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  Speaker 2: ministry of the Word. Number three is the ministry of
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  Speaker 2: the teaching priest. Anybody who lacks an encounter with these
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  Speaker 2: three ministries will have a deformity in his spiritual growth.
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  Speaker 1: That is the order.
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  Speaker 2: That means the moment an individual gets saved, It's important
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  Speaker 2: he understands that there are three ministries about to be
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  Speaker 2: introduced to his life. And he must embrace all of them.
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  Speaker 2: Number one, I repeat, the ministry of the Holy Spirit.
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  Speaker 2: Number two, the ministry of the word, the logos of God.
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  Speaker 2: A compendium of the thoughts of God. And then number three,
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  Speaker 2: the ministry of a teaching priest. Jeremiah 3.15 And I
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  Speaker 2: will give you pastors or shepherds according.
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  Speaker 1: To my heart.
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  Speaker 2: And they will feed you with knowledge. They will feed
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  Speaker 2: you with understanding. Hallelujah. When this gentleman, whoever he is now,
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  Speaker 2: as a babe, encounters these threefold ministries, they begin to
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  Speaker 2: journey him through the process of transformation. What is transformation?
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: The name given to the process that makes you become
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  Speaker 2: like Christ in experience. It says, my little children of
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  Speaker 2: whom I travail until now.
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  Speaker 1: Until Christ be formed in you.
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  Speaker 2: When the believer becomes transformed, That is the second layer
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  Speaker 2: of the believer. The third layer is empowerment. A believer
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  Speaker 2: can be transformed and yet not empowered. Jesus himself mentored
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  Speaker 2: his disciples for three and a half years. They were transformed,
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  Speaker 2: but they were not empowered. So he said, carry in Jerusalem.
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  Speaker 2: Your issue is not an information deficiency. You do not
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  Speaker 2: have power to defend the things that you know. It
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  Speaker 2: is dangerous to only be transformed and not be empowered.
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  Speaker 2: You will say many things that are correct, but not
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  Speaker 2: be able to defend them.
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  Speaker 1: Many things.
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  Speaker 2: For instance, you will be knowledgeable enough to know that
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  Speaker 2: God heals, but you will never see healing.
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  Speaker 1: You will be knowledgeable to.
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  Speaker 2: Know that God empowers that God lifts but there is
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  Speaker 2: no performance knowledge that brings transformation and then brings empowerment
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  Speaker 2: now please hear me The moment you encounter transformation and empowerment,
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  Speaker 2: you stop just being a believer.
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  Speaker 1: You become a witness. A witness is a believer.
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  Speaker 2: Who has gone through the school of transformation and gone through.
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  Speaker 1: The school of empowerment.
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  Speaker 2: A witness is not somebody who starts ministry. You can
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  Speaker 2: start ministry and in the spirit you are not yet
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  Speaker 2: a witness. The trigger for being a witness is that
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  Speaker 2: you would have submitted yourself to transformation and submitted yourself
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  Speaker 2: to empowerment.
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  Speaker 1: This is the model that Jesus showed us.
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  Speaker 2: At age 12, he was at the temple learning the law,
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  Speaker 2: even though he was the ward himself. But that did
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  Speaker 2: not release him to start ministry. The Bible tells us
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  Speaker 2: that he met John and he told John, John said,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not even worthy to untie the latchet of your shoe.
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  Speaker 2: He said, suffer it to be so. It's an ordinance
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  Speaker 2: that scripture be fulfilled. And when he baptized John, the
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  Speaker 2: heavens opened and the Bible says, the Holy Ghost descended
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  Speaker 2: upon him in the similitude of a dove. And there
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  Speaker 2: was a voice that said, this is my beloved son.
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  Speaker 2: The question is, what was he before?
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  Speaker 1: Amen.
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  Speaker 2: So, the challenge most times in Nigeria is that most
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  Speaker 2: people are called But they are not yet sent and
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  Speaker 2: they go.
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  Speaker 1: There is a.
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  Speaker 2: Difference between being called and sent. You are not called
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  Speaker 2: to do ministry. You are called to Jesus. Then you
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  Speaker 2: are sent to the nations. You are called to Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: Your calling is not to a church. Your calling is
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  Speaker 2: to Jesus. The Bible says he selected the disciples to
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  Speaker 2: be with him. And then that he will send them.
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  Speaker 2: Something happens when you are with Jesus. It is from
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  Speaker 2: the residue of that encounter your sermons come out. It
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  Speaker 2: is from the residue of that encounter your impact comes out.
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  Speaker 2: Just because you are genuinely called does not mean you
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  Speaker 2: have been sent. Jesus called the disciples from day one
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  Speaker 2: of his ministry, but he only sent them when he resurrected.
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  Speaker 2: The trigger was the coming of the Holy Spirit. So
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  Speaker 2: we have a lot of zealous people who start ministry
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  Speaker 2: with joy and passion. Genuinely called. After one month, they've
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  Speaker 2: exhausted everything they know to say.
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  Speaker 1: And it is dangerous.
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  Speaker 2: Because when you are exhausted, do you know, Saturday nights
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  Speaker 2: are the most frustrating nights for most pastors. Because they
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  Speaker 2: have to think, what in the world am I going
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  Speaker 2: to share? If it's righteousness, I've preached on it. Holiness,
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  Speaker 2: I've preached on it. Breakthrough, I've preached on it. Giving,
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  Speaker 2: I've preached on it. Deliverance, what else do I say?
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  Speaker 2: If you get into that state, it is proof that
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  Speaker 2: something has dried in your spirit.
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  Speaker 1: I'm being very honest with you.
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  Speaker 2: If you ever get to that state as a man
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  Speaker 2: of God, go for a retreat fast. It says, that
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  Speaker 2: will show us a path of light. It is in
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  Speaker 2: your life. That we see light. That you are so
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  Speaker 2: full of light. The days are not even enough. Because
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  Speaker 2: there is so much. Are we together now? The last
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  Speaker 2: thing I will say about discipleship. And then I will
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  Speaker 2: pass that quickly. We are still talking on the great commission.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know. When it has to do with knowing
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  Speaker 2: the Lord. There is no end to your knowledge. You
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  Speaker 2: will keep learning him even in heaven. But when it
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  Speaker 2: has to do with building victorious people, the body of
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  Speaker 2: truth that turns an ordinary believer to a witness is finite.
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  Speaker 1: It's not infinite.
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  Speaker 2: The body of knowledge that actually makes the maturity of
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  Speaker 2: a believer is finite. Like a curriculum that turns a
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  Speaker 2: student to a graduate, you can exhaust it. The student's
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  Speaker 2: learning continues. But as far as that course of study
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  Speaker 2: is concerned, you can exhaust it. Something plus something plus
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  Speaker 2: something plus something equals a matured Christian. Building believers to
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  Speaker 2: maturity is not an infinite pursuit of knowledge. And you
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  Speaker 2: are wondering, there is an exact body of knowledge. The
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  Speaker 2: Bible calls it marvelous light. The name given to the
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  Speaker 2: body that makes torture out of ordinary believers. It is
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  Speaker 2: my considered opinion, and I hope you don't find offense
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  Speaker 2: in it, that if any member is faithful in any
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  Speaker 2: church for two years, under structured mentorship, and that person
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  Speaker 2: cannot attain onto a.
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  Speaker 1: State of maturity, it's either the.
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  Speaker 2: Man of God is wasting his time, or the individual
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  Speaker 2: is not serious.
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  Speaker 1: With his growth. Are we together now? Praise the name
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  Speaker 1: of the Lord.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't take forever for the Habbalists in our villages
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  Speaker 2: to train another person.
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  Speaker 1: They bring a naive person.
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  Speaker 2: The body of knowledge is exact. They will tell you
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  Speaker 2: this young boy will be a Habbalist in three years.
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  Speaker 2: And you will watch the boy going every day and
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  Speaker 2: watching and watching. And after three years, they will now
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  Speaker 2: crown him the one who brings mayhem. But how come
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  Speaker 2: with all due respect, we have people who have been
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  Speaker 2: saved before.
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  Speaker 1: Some children were born.
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  Speaker 2: And those children today are pastors and the people are
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  Speaker 2: not transformed. Nothing about their communication shows maturity. We need
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  Speaker 2: to go back to our pulpits and examine the content.
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  Speaker 2: The content is what produces victory or defeat.
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  Speaker 1: It matters what the people hear.
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  Speaker 2: Thankfully, as a continent and as a nation, we have
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  Speaker 2: people who are loyal and passionate to hear. They are
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  Speaker 2: so passionate, they don't care what they hear. They trust
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  Speaker 2: you enough to hear. And if what you are communicating
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  Speaker 2: is error, they are still grateful. One thing the Bible
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  Speaker 2: tells us about being a teacher is that you will
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  Speaker 2: be judged.
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  Speaker 1: For having access to the ears and the minds of
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  Speaker 1: people is God speaking to us.
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  Speaker 2: So the Great Commission has number one, world evangelization. Number two, discipleship.
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  Speaker 2: World evangelization is God's program for the world of sinners.
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  Speaker 2: God has a program for the world of sinners. It
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  Speaker 2: is called world evangelization. God has a program for the saints.
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  Speaker 2: It is called discipleship. Attaining maturity through discipleship. And then
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  Speaker 2: the third aspect I will give you quickly is called
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  Speaker 2: territorial transformation. Matthew chapter 5 from verse.
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  Speaker 1: 13 to 16.
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  Speaker 2: Jesus is teaching now and he begins by saying you
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  Speaker 2: are the salt of the earth. He says, but if
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  Speaker 2: the salt has lost its saltiness or its sever, he says,
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  Speaker 2: where shall it be salted? It is good for nothing
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  Speaker 2: except to be thrown down and trampled at foot of men.
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  Speaker 2: Then he says in verse 14, you are the light
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  Speaker 2: of the world. He calls us a city that is
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  Speaker 2: set on a hill.
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  Speaker 1: Which cannot be hidden.
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  Speaker 2: He says, neither do men light a candle and put
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  Speaker 2: it under a bushel. But they put it on a
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  Speaker 2: candlestick and it gives light to everyone in the room.
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  Speaker 2: Verse 16 now says, let your light. The word let
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  Speaker 2: means permit. Do not restrain it. Let your light so
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  Speaker 2: shine before men that they may see.
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  Speaker 1: God wants men to see.
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  Speaker 2: That they may see your good deeds and glorify your father.
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  Speaker 2: That means the way God gets glory is when the
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  Speaker 2: sons manifest good works. John chapter 15 and verse 8.
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  Speaker 1: Herein is our father glorified.
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  Speaker 2: When you bear much fruit, so shall you be my disciples.
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  Speaker 1: John 15, 16.
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  Speaker 2: You have not chosen me, but I have chosen you
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  Speaker 2: and ordained you that you should go and bear much fruit.
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  Speaker 1: And that your fruit should remain. Territorial transformation.
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  Speaker 2: I was very touched as we heard the chairman bring
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  Speaker 2: in a lot of societal projects.
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  Speaker 1: Can I tell you? Results are evangelists. Results. There are
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  Speaker 1: sermons only results can preach.
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  Speaker 2: And there is an audience that was designed to hear
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  Speaker 2: that sermon. If all we keep doing in church is
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  Speaker 2: falling under the anointing and rolling, let me assure you, society,
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  Speaker 2: we need to bring data-driven statistics that shows that the
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  Speaker 2: church is relevant. And the way you do that is
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  Speaker 2: by becoming light and salt. I don't mean to insult you,
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  Speaker 2: but there are many beer parlors near the churches and
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  Speaker 2: they join in the praise and worship. While the praise
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  Speaker 2: and worship is going on, they are rejoicing and saying, ah,
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: this drummer, it looks like they've changed a new drummer.
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  Speaker 2: No transformation within the territory. No transformation whatsoever.
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  Speaker 1: Are we together?
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Ambrose lean on the back of the church while sermons
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  Speaker 2: are going, waiting for service to be over so they
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  Speaker 2: will steal.
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  Speaker 1: No transformation. I don't want to become.
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  Speaker 2: A part of any movement that does not speak to
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  Speaker 2: the development of society.
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  Speaker 1: We must be very apostolic in our approach.
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  Speaker 2: We must sell God in a way that society will
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  Speaker 2: be ready to embrace him. It is the reason why
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  Speaker 2: Christianity in many developed nations is being considered as a
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  Speaker 2: nuisance because they do not have data driven proof of
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  Speaker 2: relevance of church in nation building it's good to sing
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  Speaker 2: it's good to shout it's good to fall and stand
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: but receive the wisdom that came in the place of
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  Speaker 2: prayer and use it to develop the society.
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  Speaker 1: Charitable organizations. Do you know, I.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Always ask why Jesus fed 5,000. Now I know. The
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  Speaker 2: feeding of the 5,000 was number one to prove that
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  Speaker 2: he loved them. But number two, as a message to
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  Speaker 2: the Roman government, we are not irrelevant. And we are
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  Speaker 2: not a nuisance. Because by the time you calm 5,000
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  Speaker 2: people for three days, And you don't feed them. You
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  Speaker 2: have given the government a right. To say you want
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  Speaker 2: to kill these people. You are a cult. And they
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  Speaker 2: are right. So Jesus said, don't let them go this way.
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  Speaker 2: There's already enmity against this program.
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  Speaker 1: Feed them.
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  Speaker 2: Let them know that there is an aspect of God's
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  Speaker 2: love that speaks to nation building. Do you know women
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  Speaker 2: can sing a lot of praises? I'm sure a lot
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: of women sang from the mountain. Where is Caesar? Where
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  Speaker 2: is Herod? Come and see what Jesus is doing. You
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  Speaker 2: guys have been scribes and Pharisees for years. You never
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  Speaker 2: fed us. Can I tell you the truth? Unbelievers can
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  Speaker 2: also be used to evangelize. They will go to a
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  Speaker 2: senator and say, this borehole came from the church.
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  Speaker 1: My daughter is in school today, court see the church.
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  Speaker 2: This marriage that would have scattered was brought back, court
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  Speaker 2: see the church. I'm an idol worshiper, but if you
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  Speaker 2: touch that, you see that now? Listen, let me tell
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  Speaker 2: you this. Part of the principles of dominion Is that
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  Speaker 2: you must be able to translate the God life. To
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  Speaker 2: affect all and sundry. Because he sends rain both on
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  Speaker 2: the good. God has a program for society.
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  Speaker 1: Are we together?
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Every man of God who has attained a commendable size
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  Speaker 2: in ministry.
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  Speaker 1: There is a.
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  Speaker 2: Corporate social responsibility. You don't have to be an oil
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: and gas company. Once you are a man of God
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  Speaker 2: who intends to last. There must be an expression. I
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: used to be in Zaria before I moved to Abuja.
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  Speaker 2: And up until now, every time I visit, I express
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  Speaker 2: on there. Once they know I'm around, you will find
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  Speaker 2: it's literally like a crusade without calling anybody. You see,
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  Speaker 2: one thing I've learned with Muslims, if it's welfare, they
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  Speaker 2: won't stop from coming. They can stop crusades, but once
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  Speaker 2: you say food, medicals, with Jesus' joy, even if it's
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: inside the Baptist.
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  Speaker 1: Street, they will enter there and wait.
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  Speaker 2: Most of us have been wasting an opportunity for a
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  Speaker 2: harvest because we are unconcerned about the things that happen
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  Speaker 2: in society. That theology is not accurate. We are not
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  Speaker 2: of the world, I agree, but we are in the world.
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  Speaker 2: We cannot be detached from the activities that happen within
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  Speaker 2: our space. I'm praying in the name of Jesus Christ
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  Speaker 2: that for a man of God, for a woman of God,
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  Speaker 2: for a pastor who has come here, whilst you are
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  Speaker 2: hearing me, the Holy Spirit will tell you this is
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  Speaker 2: the missing link. This is why your church has been
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  Speaker 2: in a place for 10 years. and the community. You
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  Speaker 2: have never seen the chief of that community. You have
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  Speaker 2: never greeted the traditional head within that community. He does
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  Speaker 2: not know you, yet you have so much property there.
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  Speaker 2: The young boys in that community cannot defend the land.
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  Speaker 2: They don't know the owner. They have never participated.
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  Speaker 1: In anything kingdom.
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  Speaker 2: You've never called them for anything. You will know the
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  Speaker 2: relevance of community when there is a crisis. Well, with
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  Speaker 2: all due respect, most of you here in the West,
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  Speaker 2: you've not really seen a serious crisis.
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  Speaker 1: You see.
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  Speaker 2: But when you are in a place where at any
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  Speaker 2: point they can burn things here and there, there are
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  Speaker 2: people who say, I am a Muslim but minus this.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: This was the person feeding our wives, our husbands.
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  Speaker 1: Church is quiet.
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  Speaker 2: This is a pastor's conference room. I want to believe
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  Speaker 2: the Holy Spirit is speaking to our hearts. I love
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  Speaker 2: us all. Because that's the way we translate it to
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  Speaker 2: improve our people. Are we together? So the Great Commission.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: I said three things. This is the first thing now.
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  Speaker 2: To understand God's program. That God's program, if it must
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  Speaker 2: be done well. It must capture within our experience and
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  Speaker 2: our mission statements and our church activities, evangelism.
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  Speaker 1: Let me submit to you with all due respect.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: There are churches that cannot remember the last time they
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  Speaker 2: made an altar call.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't mean to insult us. It is a
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  Speaker 1: terrible thing.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: You cannot finish preaching and consistently and just say, well,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: if the sermon touched you, you are always free to
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: give your life to Jesus. No, that's not the model
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: that was handed over. He desires that all men be
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  Speaker 2: saved and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
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  Speaker 2: World evangelization, God's program.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: For the unbelieving world.
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  Speaker 2: Discipleship that leads to transformation by the sound communication of doctrine.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: God's program for helping the saints attain maturity. And then
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  Speaker 2: societal or territorial transformation. God's program for society. You believe that,
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  Speaker 2: say amen. I'm not going to talk much about discipleship.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: This was the second aspect that I wanted to touch quickly.
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  Speaker 2: Building men. The Bible says that he led captivity captive
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  Speaker 2: and he gave gifts unto men. And that he gave
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  Speaker 2: those gifts some apostles, some prophets, some pastors, evangelists, some pastors,
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  Speaker 2: some teachers. And the Bible says he gave that for
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  Speaker 2: the maturing, perfecting of the saints.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: That the saints will do the work of the ministry.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Please look at me. Every man and woman of God here.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: I want you to know that the business of ministry
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: is the business of building men. The business of ministry
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  Speaker 2: beyond physical buildings. Beyond registering ministries and organizations in corporate
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  Speaker 2: affairs commission. The ministry that we are called into is
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  Speaker 2: the ministry of building men. If you are not building men,
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  Speaker 2: if you build structures more than you build men, you
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  Speaker 2: are failing. If you build structures more than you build men,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: you are failing. No matter the ministry expansion, no matter
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  Speaker 2: the network of churches globally, the real index is the
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  Speaker 2: kind and the quality of men that you are building.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Jesus said, I will build my church. He was speaking
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  Speaker 2: of these living stones.
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  Speaker 1: Men.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: And there is a formula for building men.
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  Speaker 1: I'm praying again that God will.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Grant us intelligence to come up with programs that build men.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: And you know that building men is across various.
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  Speaker 1: The way you.
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  Speaker 2: Build members is different from the way you build leaders.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Are we together now? Yes. The Bible says strong meat
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  Speaker 2: belongs to them who by reason of use have learned
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  Speaker 2: to exercise their senses onto godliness.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you the truth.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: There are certain things you should not teach new believers.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: You will destroy them. An example, prosperity. Prosperity.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: The first sermon a young believer should hear is not prosperity.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: You teach a young believer a sermon on prosperity, you
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: have destroyed him. He has not learned death to the flesh.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: He has not learned character. He has not learned how
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: to live a surrendered life. And now you open him
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: up to, you have only multiplied lust upon that person.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: You will destroy that believer. It is line upon line.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Precept upon precept. Here a little, there a little. There
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  Speaker 2: must be a formula. We must go back and remodel
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  Speaker 2: our formula for building believers. There are things a believer
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  Speaker 2: must hear before he hears about money. There are things
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: a believer must hear before he hears about influence. Every
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  Speaker 2: topic is not relevant at every level. Line upon line.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Jesus being the chief cornerstone.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Show us the ancient.
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  Speaker 3: Path Will you lead us along eternal highway? We want
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: to follow the ways of Jesus.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: We want to enter your rest. Show us the ancient path.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Will you lead us along eternal highway?
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: We want to follow the footsteps of Jesus. Let me
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  Speaker 3: tell you something God revealed to me.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: No amount of publicity will bring people more than God
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  Speaker 2: himself recommending them to a house he knows they will
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  Speaker 2: be trained.
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  Speaker 1: Thank God for billboards. Thank God for Facebook.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: But there is a mystery that no technology can reproduce
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: as far as bringing men and the Lord added daily
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: daily if you are not willing to save sinners it
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: is a useless prayer to pray for increase to your
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: church I'm sorry, but it's the truth. If you are
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  Speaker 2: not willing to pay the price, let me tell you
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: the truth. By God's grace, I respect everyone here, but
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure there's anyone here who is.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Up to 100 years.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: Men of God, this call is a call to sacrifice.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Let's not allow this geo-mentality deceive us.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Thank God for honor, but please.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Let's drop it aside and serve God's people sincerely. A
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: man of God who is a lazy person should retire
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: from ministry. Because ministry is about diligence. Most people desire increase.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: They admire what God is doing in the life of
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  Speaker 2: great ministries. But they do not have an understanding of
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  Speaker 2: the kind of labor that goes into be trusted with men.
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  Speaker 1: Hallelujah. It's a sacrifice.
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  Speaker 2: You will never be an effective priest again.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: At your convenience. No.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: We were not trained that way. Those who trained us.
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  Speaker 2: Lay bought on to death. We saw from them.
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  Speaker 1: Diligence.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: And I speak with all due respect. To those of
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  Speaker 2: my generation here. No.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Take away that geo office mentality. And get to work.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: There are souls to save.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: If you don't have a sermon to preach, go and
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  Speaker 2: sit in your study room and be designing a Bible
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: study manual to mentor your people. You can't say there
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: is nothing to do. Honestly, anyone in ministry who only
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  Speaker 2: does Sunday to Sunday is a lazy person. Take that
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  Speaker 2: from me. There has to be someone to be following
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: up during the week. You know how long it takes
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: to prepare a sermon that is balanced and theologically sound.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: Not to scrabble something while they are taking offering. And
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: then you come up and say, don't worry. We need
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: to sit down. Don't teach people opinions. Get the word.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Study to show yourself approved unto God.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: A workman that needed not to be ashamed.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: There is a relationship between shame and laziness.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Hallelujah. Let's encourage our worshipers. Don't write songs that are meaningless.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Songs that just came as a result of copying all
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: kinds of things.
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  Speaker 3: No.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: The intelligence that is in your song is where the
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: edification comes from. It's good to sing but what is
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: the song saying? Is it helping someone know God? Are
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: we together? Let's minimize some of these songs that market ignorance.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Praise the name of the Lord.
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  Speaker 2: Please someone who has faith. Say after me in Jesus name.
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  Speaker 1: I receive grace. To feed God's people. I receive grace.
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  Speaker 1: To feed God's people.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: You're a man of God. Please go back home and
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: sit down. I don't condemn you. There are concordances. There
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: are lexicons to buy.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Are we together? There are manuals. People have already labored
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: for you. For God's sake. Let's sit down and get truth.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: And feed God's people. It is at this point. That
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  Speaker 1: with all due respect. I respect the Catholics and the Anglicans.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: The Pentecostals thank God. I mean we thank God for
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: the ministry of the Holy Spirit. But you see, I
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: was raised by the Anglican. And there was no room
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: for laziness. The structure, if anyone here has passed through
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: the Anglican communion. No, you don't stand and preach opinions.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: The topic is already known. So you won't come and
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: preach nonsense. With sufficient verses, well researched.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Yes sir. You would not even serve if you could
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: not recite the Apostles Creed. You see that? Blessed be
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: the name of the Lord.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: So we must obtain grace to build God's people. Your
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: sermons should come out of your desire to see God's
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: people built. But your sermons will be an overflow of
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: your transformations. You cannot feed God's people beyond your level
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: of spiritual transformation.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Let me repeat that again.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: You cannot feed God's people beyond your level of spiritual transformation.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: And let me make an honest admission to you.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: There are certain things that your people need that you
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: don't have the grace to give them. You must have
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: the unashamedness to outsource the graces.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: That can help them.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: Graces that are vetted across the lines of godliness and character.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: And don't let your people die because of ego. If
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: you don't have the grace, there are people within the body.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: Is God helping us? I have to give us the
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: last area and then we'll stop. Blessed be the name
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: of the Lord. My final thought with us as a
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: contribution to this conference is I want to identify a
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: few issues within the body of Christ that I believe
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: as a recommendation that God is going to help us.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Part of my call and my mandate is to help
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: bring love, unity, and balance within the body. You'll never
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: find me insulting people tearing down people, tearing down another
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: person's ministry. It has never worked.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: It won't work. Hallelujah.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: But the church of the Lord Jesus Christ from its
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: inception has never been without challenges.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: Please, I want you to listen carefully.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Having challenges across the body is not necessarily a proof
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: of backsliding. In most cases, it's not even a demonic issue.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: It's just the reality that comes with the human nature.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: And if you understand leadership, you know that conflict and
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: everything around it is part of growth. When the church
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: began to grow, there were issues. Is that not so
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: in your Bible? There were issues.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: You find that in Acts chapter 6.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: The first issue we see that the church had to
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: deal with was welfare issue. Some people felt like they
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: were being neglected in the daily sharing. And the report,
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: it first started as a rumor. And then it got
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: to the apostles. And the apostles said, no, we have
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: a mandate and we have a jurisdiction to stay in.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: And this is a lesson for someone. The more growth comes,
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: the easier for you to move away from the ministry
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: and get into administrative duties. And administrative duties are wonderful.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: But if you do not outsource systems that keep you focused,
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: you will stop being a man of God and become
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: an excellent administrator. There are people, the worst thing that
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: happened to you is that you grew in ministry. That
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: in itself seemed like an attack. Because you left the
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: ministry of the word and prayer and got to serving tables.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: Tables should be served. But he said, no, select some
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: among yourselves. But we will give ourselves continually.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Acts chapter 6 and verse 4. To prayer and the
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: ministry of the word.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: And how many of you know that among those who
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: were selected to serve tables, other people rose up from there,
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: including the person.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: That the Bible identifies as an evangelist.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: They were ordained to serve tables, but eventually at least
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: two of them became mighty men.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: Philip was one of them. Stephen was another. Hallelujah.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: But let's talk about two things or three things as
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: I wrap up. There are many challenges in the body
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: of Christ. And there's almost no end if we have to.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Dissect them one by one.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: Because most of those challenges are subjective. But I will
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: talk about the issues that concern everybody.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Number one.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: And the PFN chairman Lagos chapter graciously mentioned one of them.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: I think that as the body of Christ, we must
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  Speaker 2: be able to come up with a statement of faith.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: At what point are you called a Christian? What are
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: the parameters that define.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: A Nigerian Christian?
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: If we do not answer this question with all due respect,
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: in the next 5-10 years, they will ship in a
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: lot of things into this nation that will pollute the
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: authenticity of the faith life. Once there is no definition,
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: anything is permissible. There must be a statement of faith.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: What do I have to believe to be a Christian?
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: I feel very sad and I think the PFN chairman
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: also mentioned.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: This about Dr.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Otterbill bringing that as an obligation. because the faith walk
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: is largely personal and because of the person of the
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Holy Spirit and the unique expression of the way he
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: trains us we will have different templates as far as
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: our walk with God is concerned and that is alright
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: But the danger there is that if it is not
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: balanced by the jurisdiction of the world, we can delve
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: into anything in the name of the Spirit leads. So,
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: I can walk down right now and slap Pastor Godman
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: and say it was an instruction the Holy Ghost gave me.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Are we together?
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not being sarcastic. Now, it is difficult to say
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: I'm wrong. Because one, you are not the Holy Ghost.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Two, you are not me. And it's a spiritual thing.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: But later, after five years, I will find that it
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: was a demon that spoke to me.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: And quietly repent.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: But while I'm doing that, I have mentored others across
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: that error. So that slapping will now become a doctrine.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: Are we learning now?
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: One of the.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: Ways error spreads is because it is spiritualized. Once error
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: is spiritualized, it is difficult to tame it. Because the
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: basis for taming it will look like being, you are being,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: what's the word now?
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Are we together now?
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: No matter your work with God, the template on how
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: the Spirit of God works with people will always be
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: consistent with the character of Scripture.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: We are not the first to receive all kinds of instructions.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: And I tell you, God can give sometimes very challenging instructions.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: Are we together now? As a man of God, God
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: has given me instructions that cannot be a doctrine. Now,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: there are three layers of learning spiritually. Number one is
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: called a historic doctrine.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: Learning.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: Historic archaeological learning. The second kind of learning is called
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: a doctrinal learning. The third kind is called personalized dealings.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: Where because of your work with God. And the unique
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: expression of God's grace. He will lead you to a
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: pathway that is only for you. You are never supposed
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: to replicate that unique dealing. If not it will destroy
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: another believer. I'll give you an instance. God may check
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: my heart. and see to it that if he gives
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: me many houses and many cars, because of my level
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: of alignment and submission, it may lead me into perdition.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: And because of that, in order to manage that tendency
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: of the flesh in me, he will give me a
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: unique instruction. Never have more than three houses, never have
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: more than three cars. And once I walk in keeping
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: with that instruction, I will flourish in ministry. So when
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: you do an interview for me and say, what is
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: the secret of your success? I will tell you, I
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: do not have more than three cars and three houses.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: If you now mentor that personalized dealing, maybe your assignment
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: requires 10 houses.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: You are in trouble already. Are we together?
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: Because our personalized dealings with God produce results in our lives,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: chances are excellent that as we mentor those who are
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: around us, we also bring our unique dealings and turn
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: it into a doctrine because of the result.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: That it produces.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: This is one of the causes of error in the body.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: So God can tell someone, slap the person on the
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: wheelchair three times, a divine instruction.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: One, two, three, and the person jumps up.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: The young man who watched you now will organize a
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: crusade and bring a son of a police officer who
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: is on a wheelchair and slap him three times. The
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: guy will not get up and the boy will go
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: to jail. And we blame the Holy Ghost. It is
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: not the Holy Spirit. It is that we do not
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: know the difference between.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: God's unique dealing to you and what is doctrine now. Hallelujah.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: Never build ministry out of personal visionary experiences. No matter
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  Speaker 2: how spectacular, you will be destroying the ministry.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: We're wrapping up. Are we together now? I've had by
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: the message of God.
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  Speaker 2: I am one who has been graced to live in
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: the reality of angelic encounters.
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  Speaker 1: Encounters of the Holy Spirit.
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  Speaker 2: There are encounters that if I bring as my personal experience.
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  Speaker 2: It would destroy many people in the body of Christ.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: Not because it is erroneous. But the nature, the instructions,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: the things that God gave. The kinds of instructions that
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  Speaker 2: came from that encounter, it was from my personal edification.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: And it was not because it worked for me, does
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  Speaker 2: not mean I automatically turn it into a doctrine. And
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: sometimes the error comes sincerely. It's just people telling you
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: their story, how it worked for them. Not every story
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: is a testimony. There are some you keep to yourself.
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  Speaker 2: We have to pray.
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  Speaker 3: Your grace, your grace. I'm nothing without you.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: Your grace, your grace. Shines on me. It's your grace,
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  Speaker 1: your grace.
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  Speaker 3: I'm nothing without you.
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  Speaker 2: Praise your.
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  Speaker 3: Praise.
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  Speaker 1: Hallelujah.
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  Speaker 2: I may not have the time to discuss it, but
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  Speaker 2: please write it down. Number one, you need a statement
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  Speaker 2: of faith that guides your life. How far is far
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  Speaker 2: in your walk with God? How far is far As
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: far as the church you are leading is concerned, all
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  Speaker 2: things are lawful, but not all things are expedient. By
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: the message of God, I have the privilege of preaching
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  Speaker 2: across several places, several denominations. And as a principle, I
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: learn to adapt to whatever is the modus operandi of
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: any church that I find.
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  Speaker 1: But I have my personal convictions. I don't preach everywhere
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  Speaker 1: because I agree with everything there.
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  Speaker 2: I have my reservations. However, it is not enough reason
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: for differences. But as far as mentoring and building those
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: under your care concern. You have to define what being
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  Speaker 2: a spiritual person is. Define the parameters for true spirituality.
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  Speaker 1: Number two.
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  Speaker 2: The second challenge that I wish I had the time
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  Speaker 2: to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: Was the fact that many people are in ministry.
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  Speaker 2: Who have been wounded. And did not stay to be healed.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: And they got into ministry. As simple as this sounds.
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  Speaker 2: It is dangerous to carry the mantle of priesthood.
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  Speaker 1: When you are not healed. A scar is proof that
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  Speaker 1: a wound was once there. But is now healed.
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  Speaker 2: And if that wound is not healed.
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  Speaker 1: God does not send you.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: Most of the envy, the jealousy, the backbiting, and lots
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: of things that you see happening across the body of Christ,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: the root of it is that people have pains that
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: came from their background that they did not stay with
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: the spirit to be healed from. Then they spiritualize that pain.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: Are we together now? Growing up in life and ministry,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: I really did not know That emotional wounds were real.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: I just focused on physical wounds. But now as God
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: has helped me to grow. I have seen that emotional
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: wounds can be like diabetes. It can stay there for years.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: There are people carrying all kinds of pain. Their anger
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: is what sent them to go and pray and fast.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: The search for the anointing was not.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: To bless people. It was from a standpoint of competition.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you this.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: Only wounded people wound others. When you are healed, you
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: don't wound others. When you rejoice over the pain of
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: another man, another person's ministry, when you are happy, when
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: you see people going down, no matter how you spiritualize it,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: it is because there is an injury. Psychologists are wise enough,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: and most of us have churches full of intelligent people
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: They can look at you as a pastor and know
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: that this sermon is not the Holy Spirit. This sermon
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: came from your background. It came from your pain. You
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: are trying to manage your frustrations.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, listen, listen.
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  Speaker 2: I really, I have to honor the time and stop
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: and then all of you are here, but I want
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: you to please get this. You need to go and
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: stay with the Holy Spirit. And say, heal me, oh God.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know what injury. Joseph, your brothers threw you
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: in the pit. You are not even aware that you
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: are wounded already. Make sure you are healed before you
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  Speaker 2: see them. it took a healed Joseph to ignore the
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  Speaker 2: wickedness of his brothers it took a healed Joseph to
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: not punish Potiphar if I am Joseph as I'm coming
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  Speaker 2: out as a prime minister who is the first person
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  Speaker 2: you call.
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  Speaker 1: Potiphar, where are you?
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  Speaker 2: You and the wife. Get back into that prison. Let
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  Speaker 2: me tell you this. Let me tell you this. Most
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  Speaker 2: of us came from polygamous families. You did not realize
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: the effect. Most of us probably did not go to
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  Speaker 2: school early. Most of our parents made nasty comments. And
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: you did not know that it was wound upon wound.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: They called you a failure. They said you will never
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  Speaker 2: amount to anything.
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  Speaker 1: Just because you are old doesn't mean you are healed.
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  Speaker 2: You can be old in age still carrying the wound
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: of childhood. So you don't know why you are an
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: angry man of God. The moment someone says this is
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: your shoe. Is he original or fake? That can become
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  Speaker 2: a two year war. He was just throwing a joke.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: But the joke starts an injury. Listen carefully. We are
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  Speaker 2: wrapping up.
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  Speaker 1: But you need to hear this. If we want to
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  Speaker 1: see unity.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: There is a revelation that brings unity.
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  Speaker 1: Are we together? Healed.
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  Speaker 2: There are preachers that are not healed. That is the
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  Speaker 2: reason why there is fight for membership. There are preachers
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: that are not healed. It's the reason why we dishonor
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  Speaker 2: elderly people.
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  Speaker 1: Are we together now? Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Most of the things we do from a fake life.
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  Speaker 2: to selling lies on the internet, to trying to use
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  Speaker 2: dressing to show that faith is working.
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  Speaker 1: All of those things are proof of a wound. I'm
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  Speaker 1: telling you this. When a young man.
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  Speaker 2: Gets into ministry, and in one year his dream is
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: just to buy a private jet, have the largest church,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: he may not be wrong, but the young man has
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: been wounded. He does not even know what is motivating this.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: It's not always demons. Demons have surprised themselves. Because what
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  Speaker 2: they did and what they did not do. We are
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  Speaker 2: all blaming them. We are going to pray oh.
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  Speaker 1: You have been patient. Listen.
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  Speaker 2: Most of you ask your congregations for extra time. Let
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  Speaker 2: me ask you for extra time now.
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  Speaker 1: We are going to pray. Listen to me. Please hear me.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think would become of a general overseer's
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  Speaker 2: wife who was wounded by her stepmother, called a bad lady,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: a prostitute.
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  Speaker 1: Called whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Now she's married a man of God. She's in a church.
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  Speaker 2: Most likely, She will look at every other woman's dressing.
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  Speaker 2: She's not a bad woman. She's only a wounded woman.
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  Speaker 2: Who is this woman always dressing rich? Mark her for me.
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  Speaker 1: All these useless wars in church.
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  Speaker 2: I am telling you, the cure is not just reconciliation.
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  Speaker 1: The cure is healing.
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  Speaker 2: Because I have a mindset that if I celebrate Pastor
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: Godman and I celebrate the work he's doing, what if
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: I lose my relevance? That orientation came as a result
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: of a wound.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: Aircrafts don't crash.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: In the air because there is space for every aircraft
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: no matter how big it is. Some of you right here,
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  Speaker 2: you are in this place. I know we are pastors.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: Let God use me for one minute to heal someone
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: before we wrap up. There are some of you who
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  Speaker 2: cannot see yourself. You are here now, but you cannot
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: look eyeball to eyeball because you are angry. And most
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: of those who have that anger don't have growth. So
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: what they are fighting about is not truly, it's unnecessary.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: You are looking for something to blame. And if there's
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: nobody else to blame, your wife becomes a victim.
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  Speaker 1: Listen to me.
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  Speaker 2: Men of God, we have lost valuable people in our
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: churches because we've not been.
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  Speaker 1: Able to tame our anger, tame our jealousy.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: Some of you are jealous even with your children and
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: your sons and daughters. People you raise, you still fight them.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: It's not because you want them to fail. It's because
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: you want to succeed alone. And that succeeding alone came
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: because you did not take first position. You watch awards
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: given to people. And there is still the craving of
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: a primary school child. Crying within an individual. Still wanting
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: to be celebrated alone. Let me teach you something. Let's
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: do a little consultancy. This is not a man of
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: God now. The highest psychological need of any man.
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  Speaker 1: Including you looking at me. Is the need to feel loved.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: The need to feel valued. And the need to feel appreciated.
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  Speaker 1: Say after me. Loved. Say valued.
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  Speaker 2: Loved.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: Say appreciated. One more time. Say loved, valued, appreciated.
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  Speaker 2: Anybody, including your spouse, who violates that law becomes your enemy.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you where your words are coming from. Because
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: someone bruised your ego knowingly or unknowingly. You stepped into
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: a meeting and the person trivialized your apostleship. And you
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: walked out of that meeting marking his face. And he
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: became your enemy forever.
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  Speaker 1: Tonight be healed.
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  Speaker 2: Be healed.
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  Speaker 1: You have been wounding your congregations.
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  Speaker 2: You tell them you are shouting at them because they
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: went left.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: They moved right. You still shouted. It's not the direction.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: It's you. P.F.N. I'm sorry you invited me. I'm sorry.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Now please, everybody stand.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody stand. I'm going to give you the next five minutes.
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  Speaker 2: I'd like you to walk to everybody you can find
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  Speaker 2: and just tell them, I bless you and I honor you.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead. God bless you.
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  Speaker 2: Hug the person whether you know the person or not.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: I bless you and I honor you. We fought during
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: the crusade but we are still Christians.
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  Speaker 1: God bless you. God bless you. God bless you. God
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  Speaker 1: bless you.
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  Speaker 2: We are neighbors, but I've never entered your church to
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: see what God is doing. Please appreciate someone. I honor you.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: You may have 30 members, but I appreciate you. You
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: may have two members, but I appreciate you.
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  Speaker 1: Take a minute.
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  Speaker 2: You'll soon return to your seat. Make sure you celebrate them.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: I don't care how many members you have. I know
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  Speaker 2: you are still learning. We may not be at the
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  Speaker 2: same level of grace. But just for you to know
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: that we are stronger together. Stronger together. Stronger together. Stronger together.
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  Speaker 1: You are the one.
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  Speaker 2: That we praise.
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  Speaker 3: You are the one we adore.
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  Speaker 1: You give the.
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  Speaker 2: Healing and rest.
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  Speaker 3: That's always underfoot.
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  Speaker 2: Please return back to your seats rejoicing.
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  Speaker 1: We're out of time.
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  Speaker 2: Return back to your seat. We're about to pray. Return
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  Speaker 2: back to your seat. I know you are a prophet.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: I respect you as a prophet. I know you are
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  Speaker 2: an apostle. I respect you as an apostle. I don't
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  Speaker 2: downplay your stay.
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  Speaker 1: Listen. Let me tell you this.
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  Speaker 2: When you derive joy in demeaning the relevance of another
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: man of God, it does not make you great. Fathers, please,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: we're wrapping up, we're wrapping up. Let me have your attention, please.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: God wants to tell us something serious now.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, please.
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  Speaker 2: Fathers, you are greatly honored, but respect the sons. They
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  Speaker 2: have an.
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  Speaker 1: Advantage of time and can learn experience from you.
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  Speaker 2: Every father has shown us what he can become, but
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  Speaker 2: we do not yet know what.
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  Speaker 1: The sons will become.
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  Speaker 2: Eli, you played a role in the life of Samuel.
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  Speaker 2: But don't demean that young boy. That is the prophet
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  Speaker 2: who will ordain Saul. That is the prophet who will
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  Speaker 2: ordain David. Sons, respect fathers. It doesn't matter what they preach.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how many times you travel to the
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  Speaker 2: spirit and come back.
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  Speaker 1: You are still a son. If a baby takes... Ten
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: tins of breast milk.
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  Speaker 2: The baby does not become an adult. The baby becomes
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: a healthy baby. Hallelujah. Let me speak especially to younger
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  Speaker 2: people in ministry.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: Don't follow this blind and foolish campaign of pointing fingers
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: against fathers. Can I tell you?
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  Speaker 2: The more I grow in ministry, the more I'm silent.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: When you see fathers quiet, find out why. Young people
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  Speaker 2: have sin without wisdom. When a father says, and keeps quiet,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: keep quiet as a young man too, you'll be wiser.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: Are we together? Contemporaries, let's respect ourselves. If you fight
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: somebody's ministry, people are not idiots. They know truth when
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: they see it.
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  Speaker 2: And the moment you begin to find people, you show
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: your insecurity.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: It comes on display.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: Because those who are helped by God walk ever conscious
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: of His mercy over their lives.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: So, I will end my session by saying this.
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  Speaker 2: Apostle John, speaking by the Spirit, he wrote to three
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  Speaker 2: groups of people.
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  Speaker 1: I write to you, fathers. I write to you, young men.
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  Speaker 1: I write to you, children.
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  Speaker 2: No matter the category of age and experience in ministry,
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  Speaker 2: there is something.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: Written to you. A letter from God. What God is
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: telling the fathers is not what he's telling the young men. No.
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  Speaker 2: The fathers have wisdom and experience. The young men have strength.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: The children have malleability of heart. You can make them
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  Speaker 2: become anything.
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  Speaker 1: Hold hands with someone. We're about to wrap up. Lord,
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  Speaker 1: make us instruments of your peace.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: Where there is hatred, let your love increase.
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  Speaker 1: Lord, make us instruments of your peace.
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  Speaker 3: Walls of pride and prejudice shall cease.
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  Speaker 1: When we are your instrument.
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  Speaker 2: Please look at me, man of God. If your principles
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: and practices are wrong, I don't condemn you, but change.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: If you have been mentored, when I say unity, I
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: don't mean embracing everything. Because there are things in the
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: body of Christ that are absolute nonsense.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: Don't mistaken what I'm saying. If it is not.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: Jesus crucified, if it is not Jesus glorified, if it
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: is not Jesus revealed. So when we talk of coming together,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: we're not saying don't carry Rachel, leave the idols of
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: your father's house.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: There is a better covenant with God.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: There are some of us, it was poor mentorship that
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: led you into all kinds of extra biblical practices. While
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: we do not condemn you, there is room for repentance.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: Change now. Use this conference to change.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: Some of you were taught by wrong friends manipulative ways
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: to raise money for church. There are veterans with understanding
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: who can help you on how to structure church.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: Finances with integrity. Find them. Go and sit down under
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: their meetings and learn. There are some of us who
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: have all kinds of character challenges.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: These are things you have been ignoring for a long time,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: but it's telling on you. Go back and work on yourself.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: At every level, growth is still possible. Are we together now?
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: So when I say this, the Bible says to examine
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: ourselves whether we are still in the faith.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: Honestly, there are people I love, but they cannot be
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: my friends. I love them sincerely.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: But until I see the degree of your yieldedness to
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: Christ and his purposes, I love you from afar and
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: I wish you well.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: But it will be a risk to bring you into
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: my space.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: Your emotional carelessness is not healthy for friendship with me.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: Your level of indiscipline with anything at all. Say anything
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: you want to say. Do anything you want to do.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: Dump into people's house. Collect their cars. Collect whatever. In
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: the name of prophetic instructions. I love you but change.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: Don't harass any member to collect money from them.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: They didn't send you.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: If you are bankrupt, go to the one who sent
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: you and say, what was the strategy for my feeding?
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: Are we together? I have to say this.
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  Speaker 2: We cannot end a pastor's conference Without pointing this. The
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  Speaker 2: truth is that some of you have lost your honor.
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  Speaker 2: It faded like a leaf. Because of character issues. Your
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  Speaker 2: issue was not revelation. You lack character. Once you drop
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  Speaker 2: down from the pulpit. You are almost as if you
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  Speaker 2: have never given your life to Christ. There are young people.
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  Speaker 2: That carelessness started from campus. And there was no system
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  Speaker 2: to tame it. Some of us are learning all kinds
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  Speaker 2: of rubbish. Lending all kinds of rubbish.
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  Speaker 1: It has to change. Anybody who is coming to your church.
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  Speaker 1: Plundering you. Or making you disturb wealthy people in your church.
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  Speaker 1: Or all kinds of character challenges. I don't condemn you.
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  Speaker 1: Never will I.
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  Speaker 2: We are products of God's mercy. But for God's sake.
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  Speaker 2: Some of you may need to take a break for
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  Speaker 2: a few weeks. And sit down with a seasoned man
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  Speaker 2: of God. And say help me I have anger. Help
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  Speaker 2: me I have lust. Help me I have what again?
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  Speaker 1: Jealousy. Bitterness. Envy. Unforgiveness. Over my dead body. No, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: Repent now. Repent. Repent. This is why we are holding hands.
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  Speaker 1: One prayer and I leave this place. Show me mercy,
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  Speaker 1: oh God. Don't pray for your congregation. Don't worry about
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  Speaker 1: your congregation. Pray for yourself. Obtain mercy. Walk upon my heart.
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  Speaker 2: Someone pray. Walk upon my heart. Give me longevity of
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  Speaker 2: impact in ministry. Let me be a person of love genuinely. Genuinely. Genuinely.
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  Speaker 2: Let me become a builder to the body, not a destroyer.
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  Speaker 1: Someone go ahead and pray.
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  Speaker 2: Repent for the manipulations you may have caused to the
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  Speaker 2: members of your church.
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  Speaker 1: Ask God to show you mercy.
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  Speaker 2: The Lord is nigh them that call upon him. Make
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  Speaker 2: a cry before God. I'm ready to do ministry with
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  Speaker 2: integrity from today. Integrity from today. Given to prayer. Given
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  Speaker 2: to the study of the word. Given to laboring to
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  Speaker 2: build God's people.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead and pray. Let it be from the depth
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  Speaker 1: of your heart.