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AEW Hot Topics | The Road to All In is Heating Up! · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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Speaker 1: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
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Speaker 1: ignition with the aaw Fedup podcast team. We're leading into
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Speaker 1: all In Wales All Out. This is a really busy
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Speaker 1: time for a w Let's do this.
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Speaker 2: This is Kelson and this is Alex and yeah, we're
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Speaker 2: getting heavy, hot and heavy into all In. We have
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Speaker 2: counted nine matches. I think nine matches announced so far
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Speaker 2: for all In. I was looking at Forbidden Door Card.
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Speaker 2: We had fifteen matches on that show. I think we
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Speaker 2: had about twelve matches last year at all In. And
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Speaker 2: there's some big names that have not been announced yet.
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Speaker 2: For all In, we have you know, John Moxley's been
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Speaker 2: m I A for the past few months. Pak who's London,
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Speaker 2: UK native. Let's say he doesn't have a match yet.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of guys hanging in Adam Page. That's
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Speaker 2: another one. Yeah, there's there's just a lot of people
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Speaker 2: that don't have matches yet. Yeah, and I have one
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Speaker 2: that I'm thinking of and I'll let you guys take
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Speaker 2: some turns suggesting some but we have it's already been announced.
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Speaker 2: On Dynamite, we're getting Okada and Claudiao CASKI only face
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Speaker 2: to face. I'm assuming this has started setting up a
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Speaker 2: match between the two of them for Cardiff Wales. And
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Speaker 2: if you know, Ocada is now facing against the Blackpool
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Speaker 2: Combat Club in John Moxley's kind of waiting in the
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Speaker 2: Wings and I looked it up. John Moxley and Okada
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Speaker 2: have never had a match before. That to me seems like, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I assumed when I was kind of playing around with
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Speaker 2: it in my head that they must have had a
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Speaker 2: match at some point in New Japan. But no, no,
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Speaker 2: they've never had a match before. And maybe someone will
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Speaker 2: correct me, but I could not find any evidence of
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Speaker 2: them having a match. Yeah, so I think that to me,
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Speaker 2: knowing that they were planning on Kenny Omega versus Okada
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Speaker 2: for this show, Okata.
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Speaker 3: Needs a big match.
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Speaker 2: I know Tony Kahn is an Okada mark and he
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Speaker 2: definitely wants to see Okada in a big match, facing
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Speaker 2: someone that he hasn't faced before. I mean, you signed
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Speaker 2: this guy for a lot of money for a reason,
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Speaker 2: and I think him versus Moxley kind of checks all
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Speaker 2: the boxes a big match in my opinion.
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Speaker 1: It's a big match, Alex, But do you think that
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Speaker 1: it's too late in the game to announce Moxley as
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Speaker 1: a big batch. I mean, I could see him maybe
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Speaker 1: in a grudge match, but a big title.
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Speaker 3: Match, you know, I do.
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Speaker 2: I do think it is late, Like if they were
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Speaker 2: going to do that kind of match, I would imagine
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Speaker 2: kind of like when they first announced Osprey versus Brian Danielson,
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Speaker 2: they did it like the first episode leading to that
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Speaker 2: pay per view, like six weeks in advance, and they
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Speaker 2: haven't done that. So that's that is the part that
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Speaker 2: makes me second guess that. But I just think you
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Speaker 2: need a huge match for Okada, and you you know,
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Speaker 2: I think they have about forty thousand at least tickets sold,
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Speaker 2: but there's room to sell a lot more tickets for
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Speaker 2: sure for this show and get more pay per view buys.
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Speaker 3: And I think.
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Speaker 2: There is some big matches already, don't get me wrong,
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Speaker 2: but I think that would be a match that really
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Speaker 2: moves things for them, does business?
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Speaker 4: See, I think, yeah, you know, go ahead, okay, go ahead. See.
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Speaker 4: I don't I wouldn't mind that match, But I I
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Speaker 4: think that the travesty that they're having, uh Orange Cassidy
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Speaker 4: possibly and just a battle royal match, I think he
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Speaker 4: deserves should be on the CALRD somewhere else besides that
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Speaker 4: battle Royal. I wouldn't have seen Ocado versus Orange Cassidy
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Speaker 4: just for old time sake. But who knows what happens.
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Speaker 5: I don't. I don't know why everybody doesn't consider that
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Speaker 5: Pack has that match coming up. Occat and him have
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Speaker 5: a match. That's where it's going to be.
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Speaker 1: Is all in.
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Speaker 5: That's the best match they could do for that because
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Speaker 5: that gives Pack a big match and it puts through
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Speaker 5: caught up against a very good opponent for him.
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Speaker 3: But they just had a match. They had a match.
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Speaker 2: At I want to say, like they had a big
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Speaker 2: pay per view match. I just figure they want Ocatta
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Speaker 2: to fight other people.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, there's so many top names, like,
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Speaker 1: for example, the Young Bucks are going to be on
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Speaker 1: the card. Who are they wrestle FPR Yeah, but it's
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Speaker 1: not announced yet.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know it's gonna be because that's why
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Speaker 5: they're having the match with this is a gang tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. But what I'm saying is that there's so many
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Speaker 1: big names that have not that announced yet. And the
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Speaker 1: other thing to consider is that next week the Dynamite
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Speaker 1: is from Wales. Now I don't know if they're going
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Speaker 1: to air it live, which would be like what three
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Speaker 1: pm Wednesday if it was aired live on the East
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Speaker 1: coast at noon on the West coast. You know, maybe
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Speaker 1: they will tape the lay, which I think is okay.
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Speaker 1: I think they should, but let's face it, AW fans
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Speaker 1: are gonna watch and see spoilers where they want to
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Speaker 1: or not if they're on X at all, you know,
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Speaker 1: and then they may not see like a vignette or
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Speaker 1: whatever that sets up a match, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: So I do think next week it is important that
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Speaker 1: they broadcast live from Wales, and even if they do
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Speaker 1: a three pm Eastern show and then rebroadcast at at
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Speaker 1: eight pm, do it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: What else? What else is TB is going to be
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Speaker 1: showing at three pm in the afternoon anyway, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean? So why not, sir?
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Speaker 5: I think the biggest problem that aw's had right now
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Speaker 5: is they've had way too many things keep them from
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Speaker 5: doing this justice. They've been so many people have been
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Speaker 5: concentrating on the TV deal and the crap with NJF
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Speaker 5: and Britt Baker and all these people who might be leaving,
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Speaker 5: and they haven't done enough to promote all in this
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Speaker 5: is supposed to be their biggest show of the year.
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Speaker 5: We should not be two weeks away from the show
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Speaker 5: and still have only nine matches and almost half the
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Speaker 5: big names on the roster with nothing to do.
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Speaker 1: Well. This is a Tony Conn thing. I mean, look,
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Speaker 1: one of my biggest problems with Jade Cargill was that
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Speaker 1: she was an afterthought. I mean, she was literally given
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Speaker 1: a match for one of the pay per views on
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Speaker 1: Sunday on Friday Night Rampage, and it was just a
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Speaker 1: random match. I think it was the second match pay
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Speaker 1: per view batch she had with Anna J. It was
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Speaker 1: just okay, well, we'll just have her wrestle Anna J
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Speaker 1: at the pay per view and there was no build
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Speaker 1: up to it whatsoever. That's the problem. Tomorrow night is
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Speaker 1: a big night in my mind for build up because
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Speaker 1: there are going to be people, especially in the United
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Speaker 1: States and a w is worldwide company, but it's based
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Speaker 1: in the United States and American flat fans need to
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Speaker 1: know who's going to wrestle it all in because guess what,
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Speaker 1: that's where most of the pay per view Vibe buys
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Speaker 1: are to come from.
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Speaker 6: That goes to something. When I asked a question on
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Speaker 6: the subreddit about the wrestling leading up to the pay
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Speaker 6: per views and seeing all of the bigger name wrestlers,
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Speaker 6: and I asked something along the lines of, how about
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Speaker 6: giving some of the other wrestlers that you don't see
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Speaker 6: every week on TV a chance to showcase their talents?
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Speaker 6: And someone replied to me and said, well, you have
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Speaker 6: to remember that there are house shows and those tickets sell,
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Speaker 6: and when you buy a ticket for AW you're expecting
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Speaker 6: those big names. And I understand that, but like you
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Speaker 6: were saying, Kelson, the fan base all around, we're all fans,
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Speaker 6: and we are all watching the same lead up to
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Speaker 6: the pay per view, and from what I've seen, the
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Speaker 6: lead up to the pay per view are the same
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Speaker 6: wrestlers that we have been watching for months on end
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Speaker 6: and honestly years, I don't know if anyone else is
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Speaker 6: quite honestly a little bit bored with what I'm seeing.
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Speaker 6: I cannot take anymore FTR and Orange Cassidy. I just
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Speaker 6: cannot do it.
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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what I've been saying on that Thank you.
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Speaker 6: So, like you say, Eddie Kingston and Walking the Dog,
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Speaker 6: I can't do it anymore. We need to see somebody else.
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Speaker 6: There's a lot of great wrestlers on there, and especially
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Speaker 6: leading up to the pay per view. I think it's
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Speaker 6: a chance to get a lot of names out there,
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Speaker 6: a lot of people wrestling, develop a lot more stories
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Speaker 6: through backstage drama and through promos, and none of that
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Speaker 6: is being done. I would like to see more of it.
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Speaker 1: I want to give you an example that and you
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Speaker 1: can agree with me or disagree with me. Throw out
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Speaker 1: a name that is that. Throw me out a name
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Speaker 1: that you feel falls in your criteria of being overused
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Speaker 1: week after week, year after year, a month after a month, whatever,
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Speaker 1: Just one name.
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Speaker 6: Orange Cassidy.
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Speaker 1: Orange Cassidy. Okay, great wrestler. Nobody's doubting his wrestling ability,
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Speaker 1: nobody's doubting his character work. He's phenomenal. The problem is
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Speaker 1: is that it's like a rerun. Every week you see
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Speaker 1: the same guy. So now tomorrow night we have Orange
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Speaker 1: Cassidy and Roderick Strong and Kyle O'Reilly in a three
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Speaker 1: way match to determine who's number one in the Casino
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Speaker 1: Gotlin match. So obviously we're gonna have those three guys
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Speaker 1: in the Casino Gotlin match. But here's my point. Okay,
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Speaker 1: Orange Cassidy is popular. What about somebody like Hologram being
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Speaker 1: in that match instead of the same three guys that
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Speaker 1: have been on out every week for the last seven months,
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Speaker 1: because Roderick Strong, Kyle O'Reilly and Orange Cassidy are on
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Speaker 1: the same on all the time. And the worst part
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Speaker 1: about it is is that in one way or another
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Speaker 1: they've often been fighting with or against each other throughout
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Speaker 1: all this time. How many times are we going to
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Speaker 1: see the same shit. I want to see Hologram in
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Speaker 1: this match. I want to see I don't know, kill switch,
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Speaker 1: you know, somebody differently goes down.
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Speaker 5: Like like I said before, the problem comes down to
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Speaker 5: Tony Kahn maps his matches out months months ahead.
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Speaker 1: He does He said it before.
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Speaker 5: Other people have said that he does that, and he's
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Speaker 5: been known to not be able to change things up.
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Speaker 5: He has his people penciled anywhere he wants them, and
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Speaker 5: that's how he builds his shows. I think he does
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Speaker 5: it wrong. That's that to me is completely outrageous booking
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Speaker 5: because he then doesn't have any ability to fix when
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Speaker 5: someone gets hurt. We've seen that time and again. He
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Speaker 5: gets the same people involved. I mean, I love I
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Speaker 5: love Orange Cassidy, I like Kyl O'Riley can't stand Roderick Strong,
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Speaker 5: but you know I would not. I don't have a
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Speaker 5: problem what's in Orange Cassidy all the time because I
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Speaker 5: like his matches and I like him as a wrestler,
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Speaker 5: But there are certain there are He is getting to
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Speaker 5: the point where the biggest problem I had with W
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Speaker 5: Doe you want to stop watching it was everything was
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Speaker 5: the same all the time, same matches, every every show
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Speaker 5: was the same match. It wasn't where you had new
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Speaker 5: people every match with they had the exact same match
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Speaker 5: every damn show, same results, they move, same everything, And
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Speaker 5: it is getting to the point in some cases in
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Speaker 5: aw where that's what they're doing and they do need
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Speaker 5: to fix that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of glass half full of
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Speaker 2: half empty because like you look, yeah, Roderick Strong, Orange Cassidy,
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Speaker 2: Kylo Raley, they've been orbiting each other for a lot
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Speaker 2: of this, But you look at the rest of the
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Speaker 2: Dynamite card. Hang in Adam Page versus Jay Letho. We
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Speaker 2: haven't seen Jay Letho wrestle in a long time, and
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Speaker 2: I think that's the interesting match. Hakarashida versus Mercedes Monet.
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Speaker 2: Haikarashida hasn't been featured much on AWTV, and that's a
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Speaker 2: huge match versus Mercedes Monet in my opinion. You know,
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Speaker 2: like you can pick apart the worst match, but you
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Speaker 2: you also have to give love to the new and
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Speaker 2: exciting matches that don't get featured a lot.
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Speaker 3: I think it's just easy to be negative as a
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Speaker 3: wrestling fan, and you know.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes with rose colored glasses.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it is easy to be negative as
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Speaker 1: a wrestling fan, but it's easier to be negative when
14:27
Speaker 1: you're literally handed a plateful of negativity to pick apart.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you get there's a plate it has negativity
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Speaker 2: and there's positivity on it, and you know, there's a
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Speaker 2: lot of factors that determine what you choose, and they're
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Speaker 2: not all.
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna ask a question. It's a simple yes
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Speaker 1: or no answer for everybody on the panel. Tonight, this
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Speaker 1: Gauntlet qualifier match between Orange Cassidy, Roderick Strong and Kyle O'Reilly,
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Speaker 1: just less than two weeks from the pay per view
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Speaker 1: All in pay per view Justice Match. Yes or no?
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Speaker 1: Are there any positives in this match?
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Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 1: Hm that we need? No? No, yes, Kay.
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Speaker 3: And and al yes, I'm interested in this match.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I say there's no positive, So it's odd of
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Speaker 1: the five people here, three to two say it's negative,
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Speaker 1: and we're big fans.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, there is some there's gonna be some differences in
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Speaker 5: why we think that way. I don't necessarily.
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Speaker 1: Wanted to explain in that case, you want to explain
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Speaker 1: and you just kind of just talk right over. So okay,
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Speaker 1: go ahead. So this is yeah, okay, go ahead.
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Speaker 4: Sorry I muted myself. I this is interesting to me
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Speaker 4: because Roger's strong and uh and Orange cass they have
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Speaker 4: a rivalry. They both have a have a murdered, have
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Speaker 4: a murdered. They both like Kyler Rice. So Kyler kyl'iley
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Speaker 4: is kind of a person in the middle and he
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Speaker 4: wants to be in it. So there's this little cause
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Speaker 4: I triangle going on here, a different respects and they
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Speaker 4: and Rodert strong wants Kyler Railey back back in their
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Speaker 4: quick and Kyler rally does not want to. So that's
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Speaker 4: kind of that. I'm am k I'm looking at as
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Speaker 4: who's going to come out on top when all three
16:45
Speaker 4: of them want each other's attention. I like Orange Cassidy,
16:50
Speaker 4: but it's gonna be inter asking because I can't predict
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Speaker 4: who's going to win here, I really can't. I want
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Speaker 4: Kyler Riley to But but okay, so explore with the
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Speaker 4: first number one spots. But I don't understand why you
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Speaker 4: won't want to fight to be the first one in exactly.
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Speaker 5: Well, you know why Roderick Sean wants it because he
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Speaker 5: can get to get in the last one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but's something specific. Let me ask you a specific question, MK,
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Speaker 1: just to sum up what he said, basically saying that
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Speaker 1: they have a rivalry. Now, in my mind, this rivalry
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Speaker 1: has been going on for months and months and months
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Speaker 1: and months with no resolution, with the same kind of
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Speaker 1: match literally every week. I don't think there's been a
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Speaker 1: week to maybe a couple of weeks in the last
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Speaker 1: six months that have gone by where we haven't had
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Speaker 1: a match featuring one of these guys, either with or
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Speaker 1: against each other. Are we actually do you do you
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Speaker 1: think that was the time to try to continue this
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Speaker 1: or and do you honestly feel like there's going to
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Speaker 1: be a resolution to this at all?
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Speaker 5: In okay, I totally agree with you and they you
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Speaker 5: guys have been used too much. The thing is, it's
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Speaker 5: not a good time to try to resolve this matter,
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Speaker 5: because there's no going to be no resolution. The only
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Speaker 5: person in these three people that is actually keeping this
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Speaker 5: going is Roderick Strong because Kyle Raley doesn't want anything.
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Speaker 1: To do with them.
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Speaker 5: Orange Cassidy is with the conglomeration. They want to do
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Speaker 5: other things, and they've done other things. This whole thing
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Speaker 5: is demented in the mind of Roderick Strong, and it's
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Speaker 5: It's like to me, it's actually holding back everybody else
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Speaker 5: because they will not get rid of this whole unnecessary
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Speaker 5: or undispeated kingdom. It all comes down to, I don't
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Speaker 5: care how much Roderick Strong wants his buddy to be
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Speaker 5: a part of his team. The team sucks. Oh kyleer
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Speaker 5: Raley's doing great on his own, Why does he want
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Speaker 5: to be in that again?
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Speaker 1: Let it go right?
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Speaker 5: It won't and that's a problem.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I feel like it's a very similar issue to the
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Speaker 2: whole Jericho thing. It's like, I like Kyle O'Reilly, I
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Speaker 2: don't hate Roderick's Strong, but I just don't want them
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Speaker 2: to be involved with each other anymore. Kind of similar
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Speaker 2: to Jericho and Hook. They can do their own things,
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Speaker 2: but Yeah, I don't. I don't like seeing the exact
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Speaker 2: same guys feuding over and over again.
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Speaker 1: Someone wanted to hear that I have. Why in the
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Speaker 1: world would Kyle O'Reilly want to be a part of
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Speaker 1: the Undisputed Kingdom. It's a laughing stock exactly.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And what's the best case scenario is like that,
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Speaker 2: you're almost afraid, as a Kyle O'Reilly fan that he's
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Speaker 2: going to end up with the Undisputed Kingdom.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, what's the worst thing we could do
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Speaker 1: with Kyle O'Reilly. Oh that, let's do it. Yeah, they
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Speaker 1: got to.
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Speaker 5: Tony's got to figure out a way to mix it
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Speaker 5: up more and get more people involved, because it does
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Speaker 5: become boring after a while when you have the same
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Speaker 5: people every week in week out, pay per view in
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Speaker 5: pay per view out.
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Speaker 1: I want to bring up another big name that has
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Speaker 1: been kind of tossed around a spill and we haven't
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Speaker 1: talked about this person. They did a they did a
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Speaker 1: promo about three weeks ago that went over really well
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Speaker 1: on Collision, and then on this past Collision they did
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Speaker 1: a promo that went over really went well again and
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Speaker 1: both were centered around I want my spot on at
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Speaker 1: Wembley and that is the Krusheta. She knocked it out
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Speaker 1: of the park with those two promos. She got a
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Speaker 1: match against Brick Baker a couple of weeks ago. Now
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Speaker 1: she's got a match tomorrow night on Dynamite against Mercedes Monet.
21:03
Speaker 1: She wants to go to Wembley. She's called herself the
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Speaker 1: Ace of the division and it got a huge reaction
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Speaker 1: and people are talking about a Karlsheeda. I've not seen
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Speaker 1: anybody talking about Mercedes Monet, and I've not seen anybody
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Speaker 1: speaking about brit Baker when it comes to this match,
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Speaker 1: But there's people talking about a Carlsheeda, not like everybody,
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Speaker 1: you know, like a huge, you know, co bobration of
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Speaker 1: people talking about her. But she is getting noticed. She's
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Speaker 1: going to be I'm dreading this match tomorrow night because
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Speaker 1: I don't want to see Carlsheda get fed the Mercedes Monet.
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Speaker 1: The best sic case scenario is a no contest, which
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Speaker 1: AW just does not do that often, and they already
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Speaker 1: pulled one a couple of weeks. Well, just this past
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Speaker 1: week basically with the Trios match where Christian Cage was
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Speaker 1: the special guest referee, basically ended in an l contest
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Speaker 1: double count out. But my point is is that Karl
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Speaker 1: Sheeta is another big name that the whole angle that
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Speaker 1: she's in is to get into Wembley. We're less than
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Speaker 1: two weeks from when we're ten days away from Wembley,
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Speaker 1: and there's no resolution to this yet. And I really
22:32
Speaker 1: don't see resolution happening tomorrow. I fear that a Karl
22:36
Speaker 1: Sheda is not going to be at Wembley an by
22:40
Speaker 1: any mean shape, well unless he runs in, you know,
22:44
Speaker 1: And this is a problem.
22:46
Speaker 5: I see tomorrow night going a little different than that.
22:50
Speaker 5: I don't think that that match. I think that match
22:52
Speaker 5: is going to end up We're gonna have another three
22:54
Speaker 5: way because I don't like I agree with you totally.
22:58
Speaker 5: She didn't deserves to be on the pay per view.
23:01
Speaker 5: She's there, she's the isn't she the only three time
23:04
Speaker 5: Maybe Tony storm too, they're like the only three time
23:06
Speaker 5: women's champions, And.
23:09
Speaker 1: She heard Tony Stormers three time champions, but Shida is
23:13
Speaker 1: the longest reigning champion.
23:14
Speaker 5: Okay, so you have you have a three time women's
23:17
Speaker 5: champion who has been being misused, who deserves a shot
23:21
Speaker 5: at the title. I have a feeling that tomorrow night Baker,
23:24
Speaker 5: because you remember last week Baker vowed that she's gonna
23:27
Speaker 5: get to Monette tomorrow night. She said, I'm gonna get
23:30
Speaker 5: you next week. She said, you have to believe I'm
23:33
Speaker 5: going to get to you. And that's what I think
23:34
Speaker 5: is gonna happen. I think during the match, she's gonna
23:37
Speaker 5: be involved, She's gonna come out, and they're gonna end
23:39
Speaker 5: up double count out or disqualification.
23:42
Speaker 4: How do they want to do it.
23:43
Speaker 5: I don't think she is going to lose out right,
23:46
Speaker 5: and I think that's gonna set up a triple match
23:48
Speaker 5: at the all In, and I have a feeling that
23:51
Speaker 5: she is actually going to win that title if they
23:53
Speaker 5: do that.
23:54
Speaker 4: I don't see that happening. I think it's too big
23:59
Speaker 4: of a match, a bit of a dream match for
24:01
Speaker 4: the heart, for the for the fans to put Sheeta in.
24:05
Speaker 4: I'd love her to be in some match, but I
24:07
Speaker 4: just don't see her being a triple threat match.
24:11
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, yeah, I really. I see this Mercedes Monet
24:14
Speaker 2: match just kind of being a way to eat up
24:17
Speaker 2: Mercedes Monet for all In. Unfortunately for Shida. I would
24:22
Speaker 2: love to see them. You know, Camille could be involved
24:27
Speaker 2: in this match and costs to Karshida the match and
24:30
Speaker 2: still make her look good, and then Hakarusheeda could still
24:34
Speaker 2: have a match it all in against you know, a
24:37
Speaker 2: big debuting name I've heard like Beth Phoenix been rumored,
24:42
Speaker 2: like people like that who are a big name. Could
24:46
Speaker 2: be a good match for Karashida that could still be
24:48
Speaker 2: on the main card or a huge zero hour match.
24:53
Speaker 4: What about Shida versus Camille?
24:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be great too, and Schidah could actually
24:59
Speaker 2: win that match.
25:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, well there's another name, you know when you're talking
25:05
Speaker 1: about Look, the Casino Gauntlet match is gonna get a
25:09
Speaker 1: lot of the men's division out there. I really wish
25:13
Speaker 1: they would announce a women's Casino Gotland match because I'm
25:17
Speaker 1: gonna throw out two names for you. One is somebody
25:21
Speaker 1: that is coming back and then you know fight full
25:24
Speaker 1: And there's a couple of other places that reported that
25:27
Speaker 1: this person, this woman is gonna return tomorrow night, and
25:31
Speaker 1: that's Tamello. Well, what the hell are you gonna have
25:34
Speaker 1: tame Mello come back for it? She's not gonna be
25:36
Speaker 1: doing anything. She's certainly not gonna be an a tag
25:38
Speaker 1: team match. Anna Jay's in stardom right now, and she's
25:41
Speaker 1: going to be in stardom until the end of the month.
25:44
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no way Anna j is gonna be
25:46
Speaker 1: at all in. The other one is Mina shi Kawa,
25:51
Speaker 1: who has already paped two matches for Rigam Honor, you know,
25:58
Speaker 1: in the last few days, so sar Kawa is absolutely back.
26:02
Speaker 1: Mina Shirkaw has said, I want to see what Mariah
26:05
Speaker 1: may thinks of me. What's going on here? That could
26:08
Speaker 1: come to a head tomorrow night as well. So we
26:12
Speaker 1: may see Team Tay Melo tomorrow night. We may see
26:15
Speaker 1: Mina Shakkawa tomorrow night. I think there's a very good
26:17
Speaker 1: chance we will see at least Mina. It'd be a
26:19
Speaker 1: special surprise to see Tay Mellow. And I really do
26:24
Speaker 1: believe that if Jamie Hater is going to come back,
26:29
Speaker 1: I personally don't think that you wait until all in
26:33
Speaker 1: for her to make her appearance. I think you do
26:35
Speaker 1: it this week or next week on Dynamite, because that's
26:41
Speaker 1: gonna get just Jamie Hayter has been gone for four
26:44
Speaker 1: hundred and forty one or four hundred and forty two
26:47
Speaker 1: days now, and when you look at it, people are
26:53
Speaker 1: making posts on X you know, day act day, this
26:57
Speaker 1: much missing Jamie Hayter. You know she has wanted You
27:01
Speaker 1: don't bring a round out of pay per view, you
27:03
Speaker 1: set her up for a pay per view. These are
27:06
Speaker 1: at least even if she doesn't show her face easer
27:10
Speaker 1: at least maybe even du a vignette. Who knows, But yeah,
27:16
Speaker 1: anybody on thoughts on on on these women, I don't
27:21
Speaker 1: get them all mm hmm. Yeah.
27:24
Speaker 2: I feel like bringing Jamie Hayter back, That's like that
27:28
Speaker 2: would be bigger than even MJF coming back because it's
27:31
Speaker 2: has been so long. She's really like the top star
27:35
Speaker 2: in the women's division. Yeah, yeah, I really look forward
27:39
Speaker 2: to that night. It's crazy how long it's been.
27:42
Speaker 1: Geez, I wouldn't throw another thing out there. And this
27:46
Speaker 1: may be an unpopular opinion, but I'm going to say it. Uh.
27:51
Speaker 1: Remember we're talking about the whole Kyle O'Reilly, Roderick, Strong, Orange,
27:57
Speaker 1: Cassie just not going to have a resolution and just
28:00
Speaker 1: think it's gonna go on forever. But the other thing
28:02
Speaker 1: that seems like it's gonna go on forever is Chris
28:04
Speaker 1: Statlander and Will on Nightingale. Now they're having a zero
28:08
Speaker 1: hour match that is a match that is confirmed for
28:11
Speaker 1: zero hour at all in with with Stokely Hathway is
28:16
Speaker 1: Chris Statlander's partner for whatever reason at all? And and
28:22
Speaker 1: she as you know, you know, is she the the
28:26
Speaker 1: bowling ball wants to grow up to be a real boy.
28:30
Speaker 1: He He's gonna be Willow Knightingale's partner. This match makes
28:35
Speaker 1: no sense at all. It's like, okay, so we're gonna
28:40
Speaker 1: see Willow and Statlander again and no resolution. And not
28:46
Speaker 1: only is there not gonna be any resolution, what the
28:48
Speaker 1: hell are they gonna do to even move this story forward?
28:51
Speaker 4: It would be finish.
28:54
Speaker 1: I mean, at this point, it would have made more
28:58
Speaker 1: sense to have will On and Gale and thunder Rosa
29:02
Speaker 1: against Chris stat Land or Diana Parozzo. At least you
29:06
Speaker 1: could have something there.
29:07
Speaker 4: It would make sense for Orange Cassidy to be in
29:09
Speaker 4: that mixtag instead of being in the Gauntlet because will
29:14
Speaker 4: Orange Cassidy or at least brands and they have beef
29:18
Speaker 4: with stat Lander and stuff. I don't understand e she
29:20
Speaker 4: I don't. I'm not a big fan of his. I
29:23
Speaker 4: don't know his past, but I just don't enjoy him
29:27
Speaker 4: with him wrestling.
29:30
Speaker 5: It's just another example of Tony Kahan not knowing when
29:33
Speaker 5: to quit on something and let it go because there's
29:36
Speaker 5: no there's no reason for these two to continue to
29:39
Speaker 5: wrestle nothing. It goes nowhere, period.
29:45
Speaker 1: I disagree.
29:47
Speaker 4: Isn't she going for her triple A title or something?
29:51
Speaker 1: Well not on not at all in but my point
29:53
Speaker 1: is that, yeah, they can't just drop it without a resolution,
29:58
Speaker 1: So there is a reason for them to get the
29:59
Speaker 1: go Russell, But there is no reason for is she
30:03
Speaker 1: and Stokely hath the way to get involved in this beauty?
30:08
Speaker 2: Like in a way, it's kind of like, you know,
30:11
Speaker 2: getting Jim Cornett in the match in the eighties. It's
30:14
Speaker 2: Stokely's there, so Willow can finally get his greater hands
30:19
Speaker 2: on him.
30:20
Speaker 5: Yeah, but they can't because it's a mixed tag. They're
30:22
Speaker 5: not gonna let them wrestle each other.
30:25
Speaker 4: I think such a little.
30:27
Speaker 2: Is such a joke character that they can I think
30:31
Speaker 2: Willow could power bomb him, like he's not going to
30:33
Speaker 2: get any offense on her, but he'll probably do some
30:38
Speaker 2: stuff to Stokely. I don't see that an issue.
30:41
Speaker 4: The whole match, and he'll finally get his payday yeah,
30:45
Speaker 4: but but have you noticed have you guys been watching
30:48
Speaker 4: Collision enough to notice that and Nick Wayne had been
30:53
Speaker 4: going at it. I think that needs to be on
30:56
Speaker 4: not a Zero Hour, but I think can't deserve to
31:00
Speaker 4: be on the main card. And I'm in arrested that
31:03
Speaker 4: match because I think Nick Wayne needs to have a
31:07
Speaker 4: singles match. I know it'll probably be put in the
31:10
Speaker 4: Triple Threat match, but maybe he could I don't know,
31:12
Speaker 4: maybe he could do two matches.
31:13
Speaker 1: Well, don't forget Kiff Sabien is from the UK and
31:17
Speaker 1: they are doing a show in Wales next week and
31:20
Speaker 1: I think that that is going to be announced for
31:22
Speaker 1: next week in Wales, and I think that's a good match.
31:24
Speaker 1: I want to ask I want to ask that a
31:26
Speaker 1: question here specifically about this stokely hat the way Willow
31:31
Speaker 1: Knightingale against Chris Statlander and match nett hm. I want
31:37
Speaker 1: to ask you this, is this even? Is this a
31:41
Speaker 1: good match for Zero Hour at all? In or is
31:46
Speaker 1: it just a decent rampage match.
31:50
Speaker 6: I'd rather see it at Zero Hour if I had
31:54
Speaker 6: to see it at all, which I don't want to
31:56
Speaker 6: see it at all. If you're going to put it somewhere,
32:02
Speaker 6: put it at zero hour.
32:07
Speaker 1: It just blows my mind with this match, it really does.
32:11
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I mean. There's there's a lot of
32:14
Speaker 6: other people who would love to be on TV, who
32:18
Speaker 6: are on the roster and would love to be out there,
32:22
Speaker 6: and this is what we're doing.
32:27
Speaker 1: You know.
32:27
Speaker 6: I think that Statlander and Willow and she are all
32:33
Speaker 6: way more talented than this. I think this is some
32:37
Speaker 6: kind of bad joke on Tony Kahan's party, and we
32:43
Speaker 6: deserve we deserve better as fans.
32:45
Speaker 1: I think I have not. I am fired up about
32:49
Speaker 1: all In because it's all In, but as far as
32:51
Speaker 1: the match card goes, I'm not.
32:54
Speaker 7: Seeing anything that's musty. I'm sorry, I just don't. Yeah, well,
33:02
Speaker 7: last year had all the hype. There's a brand new
33:04
Speaker 7: toy kind of thing going around, you know, around it
33:06
Speaker 7: and stuff. But I want to move on to the
33:08
Speaker 7: Actually I want to talk about the Casino Gauntlet match
33:11
Speaker 7: at all In because we have already talked about, you know,
33:16
Speaker 7: some of these wrestlers that.
33:20
Speaker 1: Could be shown. I mean, there's gonna be a lot
33:22
Speaker 1: of wrestlers that could be showing up on this match
33:24
Speaker 1: that we haven't talked about yet. There's something that we
33:26
Speaker 1: have talked about, and we've already heard that there's gonna
33:32
Speaker 1: be some surprises in there. So does anybody have any
33:36
Speaker 1: like a wish list of who they would like to
33:40
Speaker 1: see show up specifically for this Casino Gauntlet match.
33:50
Speaker 4: I think it has to be Ricochet at some point
33:52
Speaker 4: he has to appear. I think it'd get a big
33:56
Speaker 4: pop and uh, he should do it. But there's a
33:59
Speaker 4: red pro rye that's kind of been tossed around. Michael
34:02
Speaker 4: Oku mm hm yeah, yeah, I could see him being
34:06
Speaker 4: in it as well.
34:08
Speaker 1: Likewise, anybody else have any other names?
34:14
Speaker 6: My Dan Housen.
34:17
Speaker 3: Please? Yeah?
34:19
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, Dan Housen would be amazing. I think he
34:24
Speaker 2: might get the biggest pop of all in if he
34:27
Speaker 2: shows up.
34:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you have anybody, Alex?
34:35
Speaker 3: It's hard for me to stay. I I do like that.
34:38
Speaker 3: Michael Oku.
34:39
Speaker 2: I know he had a six star Dave Meltzer match
34:43
Speaker 2: with will Osprey and he also had that, you know,
34:46
Speaker 2: a match with them JF recently, So yeah, I'm hoping that.
34:51
Speaker 1: He beat will Osprey too this year.
34:53
Speaker 3: He did.
34:54
Speaker 2: Eh, I want to go back and watch that match.
34:57
Speaker 2: I know five star matches don't really mean anything anymore,
35:01
Speaker 2: but I do think a sixth star match still better
35:04
Speaker 2: be pretty good. Yeah, I want to get familiar with
35:08
Speaker 2: him because it does sound like he's for sure going
35:10
Speaker 2: to show up. Yeah, and then one other name I'm
35:14
Speaker 2: thinking is gender Mahal formerly Gender Mahaal. I don't know
35:18
Speaker 2: what he goes by now.
35:20
Speaker 1: Right, the Motoraja.
35:23
Speaker 6: He's over there in GCW, running around like a lunatic.
35:29
Speaker 3: How has he been in GCW? How does he fit in?
35:33
Speaker 1: Oh?
35:33
Speaker 6: He fits in really well. He's already got an argument
35:40
Speaker 6: going on with with FI and you all know who
35:44
Speaker 6: the Bollywood boys are, right, Yeah? Okay, yeah, yeah, that's right.
35:50
Speaker 6: He's he's brought them over there and there's gonna be
35:53
Speaker 6: some kind of grudge match with him and FI and
35:57
Speaker 6: the Bollywood boys are involved as usual. So he looks
36:02
Speaker 6: really good. He's really solid. I like him as a wrestler,
36:07
Speaker 6: so it'd be nice to see him a couple of
36:09
Speaker 6: other places doing well.
36:13
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw some names out there that I think
36:15
Speaker 1: could be in this match. Mkay, you've already said Michael Loku.
36:19
Speaker 1: I really think he's a shoe win for this match.
36:22
Speaker 1: I don't want to see tag team predominant tag team
36:26
Speaker 1: wrestlers in this match. But I'm gonna throw out some
36:29
Speaker 1: other names other than Michael Loku, Ricky Starks. If he's
36:38
Speaker 1: gonna stay or if this is gonna be a Swan song,
36:42
Speaker 1: why not get him out there just to say goodbye
36:45
Speaker 1: and get squashed or whatever. But but other names, Bobby Lafley,
36:52
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course we already mentioned Rick Paula Graham
37:00
Speaker 1: wouldn't mind seeing Kip Sabian. I wouldn't mind seeing to
37:05
Speaker 1: Beast Mort's in this match. I I don't know, it's
37:13
Speaker 1: it's just one of those things I don't want to
37:15
Speaker 1: I want to see wrestlers that this match is for
37:23
Speaker 1: a chance at a future World championship. Matt, I don't
37:27
Speaker 1: want to see somebody that's long in the tooth in
37:31
Speaker 1: this match. I want to see some people. I want
37:34
Speaker 1: every one of them to be, whether they're an underdog
37:37
Speaker 1: or a favorite, viable contenders for you know, Kip Sabian.
37:44
Speaker 1: I don't want to see somebody you know, and I
37:46
Speaker 1: don't mean this in a bad way. I don't want
37:49
Speaker 1: to see Johnny TV. I really don't. I don't want
37:53
Speaker 1: to see somebody like the Butcher because the Butcher's, you know,
37:57
Speaker 1: just one of those guys. That is great, but he
38:00
Speaker 1: gets it. He just gets in the way because he
38:02
Speaker 1: has no chance of winning. And let me put it
38:04
Speaker 1: this way, when you think of hey, who should be
38:08
Speaker 1: somebody that's fighting for the world championship, aw world championship,
38:12
Speaker 1: I don't think the Butcher's gonna be one that's mentioned,
38:15
Speaker 1: you know, and I don't I mean, I don't mean
38:16
Speaker 1: that he's he does what he does, he does it well.
38:20
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this to insult the Butcher at all,
38:23
Speaker 1: but I want to see people that, oh, yeah, well,
38:25
Speaker 1: at the end of the match, whoever wins, even if
38:28
Speaker 1: it's a surprise winner, I want to be able to say, oh,
38:31
Speaker 1: you know what, that could be a really good match.
38:33
Speaker 4: I would like for TK to get in touch with
38:37
Speaker 4: Penta and for Pentiship to show up in that match,
38:40
Speaker 4: even though he may not win. I think he'd get
38:42
Speaker 4: a big pop again because he said he's not done
38:45
Speaker 4: with a w and and elies aren't uh the lie lies,
38:52
Speaker 4: And I'd be interested in him.
38:55
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just had an idea Joey Janella reaching in
38:59
Speaker 2: this in Thisstalgia.
39:01
Speaker 5: Wow, that's a fantastic I think it's gonna be hang
39:07
Speaker 5: Man out a Page, just one. Nobody's mentioned he doesn't
39:09
Speaker 5: have a match. He's gonna get the title shot. He's
39:12
Speaker 5: gonna get it. Just the only thing I don't like
39:14
Speaker 5: about this is it's too random of how long it
39:18
Speaker 5: can last. Because if Hangman comes out third, you're gonna
39:23
Speaker 5: get two more people in the match gonna be over.
39:26
Speaker 5: If he's in it and he don't come out to
39:27
Speaker 5: like tenth or fifteenth, then you're gonna have a nice
39:30
Speaker 5: long match. And that's the one thing about these Gauntlet
39:32
Speaker 5: matches I don't like, because they can end at anytime.
39:35
Speaker 4: That's a good thing, though. Point maybe I don't want
39:41
Speaker 4: Hangman to win at all. I'm sorry. I am tired
39:44
Speaker 4: of him winning every single casino type of match. It's
39:49
Speaker 4: a it's a gotten stale. I don't know who I
39:52
Speaker 4: want to win, but I do not want Adam Page.
39:56
Speaker 4: So I love the guy. He's a great superstar, but
39:59
Speaker 4: he wins every very single time.
40:02
Speaker 1: My favorite to win this match, which makes sense to me,
40:05
Speaker 1: would be Pack. That would make sense. But you know
40:09
Speaker 1: who else? I would like to see this patch just
40:11
Speaker 1: for may No Machio.
40:14
Speaker 3: Oh, I just like to run out.
40:18
Speaker 1: I just like to see her run out. There for
40:20
Speaker 1: to come out. You know, big holding aside was I'm
40:23
Speaker 1: gonna win the you know, I'm gonna qualify the Women's
40:25
Speaker 1: World Championship match and realize that there's a bunch of
40:29
Speaker 1: men in the ring and have her look at confusion
40:31
Speaker 1: and go in there, flip somebody off and get you know,
40:34
Speaker 1: thrown out of the ring and she runs trying back
40:38
Speaker 1: to the back. I just think it would be funny,
40:40
Speaker 1: you know, and I just think it would be an
40:42
Speaker 1: interesting thing to do. Uh don't get her getting the
40:47
Speaker 1: pin and whatever, but machio, you know, because I just
40:52
Speaker 1: want to piss Jim Cornett off. So yeah, I mean,
41:02
Speaker 1: I hope that they do get well. I hope that
41:07
Speaker 1: they come tomorrow night and they actually alter the rules
41:14
Speaker 1: a little bit, because they seem to do that a lot.
41:16
Speaker 1: Aw seems to alter rules a lot and in their
41:21
Speaker 1: established matches. So hopefully they can get that done and
41:27
Speaker 1: make it to where it's more viable for say, twenty
41:30
Speaker 1: twenty one people to come out. I wanted to talk
41:34
Speaker 1: just a couple of seconds about the passing of the
41:36
Speaker 1: task Master Kevin Sullivan. You know, my memories of Kevin Sullivan.
41:40
Speaker 1: He was not the biggest guy in the world, and
41:43
Speaker 1: yet he got the job done. A brilliant wrestling mind
41:48
Speaker 1: just he just had it whenever he was, whenever he
41:53
Speaker 1: was in the ring, and the way he talked New
41:55
Speaker 1: England guy, And I'm from New England, And I'm thinking
41:59
Speaker 1: to myself, is that the way I sound? Because we
42:03
Speaker 1: were from not far from each other, although I did
42:06
Speaker 1: move to the South at an early age, where I'm
42:09
Speaker 1: sure he spent most of his life. It does anybody
42:13
Speaker 1: had any anything they want to say about Kevin Sullivan.
42:18
Speaker 2: So I I don't know a lot about him, just
42:21
Speaker 2: because I didn't watch. I guess him when he was
42:25
Speaker 2: at his peak, because what I remember best of Ken
42:28
Speaker 2: Kevin Sullivan is the dungeon of Doom WCW Haul Cogan
42:33
Speaker 2: facing Kevin Sullivan and like all his weird cronies that
42:39
Speaker 2: were all kind of horrible in their own way.
42:43
Speaker 3: Kind of maybe it was probably the.
42:46
Speaker 2: Bottom of his career, at least in televised wrestling, but
42:49
Speaker 2: it was kind of cool and it was something I
42:51
Speaker 2: remember fondly as a kid watching.
42:55
Speaker 4: So when I was at I went to and Tulsa
43:01
Speaker 4: and he came on the screen during during one of
43:04
Speaker 4: the breaks or or so and the people I went with.
43:09
Speaker 4: My sister in law didn't know who he was, and
43:12
Speaker 4: I was and my brother I were trying to explain
43:15
Speaker 4: exactly who he was. I really related to him as
43:19
Speaker 4: a booker more than I can remember much with him.
43:23
Speaker 4: But I know I know him as Okay, was he
43:26
Speaker 4: Nancy's was Nancy Sullivan? They're married, and then Crispin Waller.
43:32
Speaker 4: I don't remember that old story. But that's all I
43:35
Speaker 4: really know about him. I will love to say more,
43:37
Speaker 4: but he really doesn't. He really wasn't the rest of
43:40
Speaker 4: us that stood out to me.
43:44
Speaker 1: Well.
43:44
Speaker 5: I know that as a wrestler, he was known for
43:48
Speaker 5: being a member of the group that tried to destroy
43:52
Speaker 5: Hulkogan when he first came to w CW. But Kellin
43:56
Speaker 5: Sullivan did a lot more in wrestling after he retired
44:00
Speaker 5: from the ring than he ever did in the ring.
44:02
Speaker 5: I mean, he was responsible for so much in w
44:05
Speaker 5: Early in WWE, around the time that he left wrestling,
44:10
Speaker 5: he went to WWE, was a bat. We did a
44:12
Speaker 5: lot of stuff backstage. The uh who was the one
44:16
Speaker 5: we were talking about before with the helmet that fell
44:18
Speaker 5: off block Master?
44:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, shock Master he died. That was his idea that.
44:25
Speaker 3: Was, that was what he was for.
44:27
Speaker 5: I mean, he did a lot of those things like that,
44:30
Speaker 5: and honestly, I think personally I didn't I didn't really
44:33
Speaker 5: like him as a wrestler because he just was so weird.
44:36
Speaker 5: But he did a lot for wrestling that nobody knows
44:40
Speaker 5: about because he didn't get credit for it because he
44:43
Speaker 5: was behind the scenes. So it was definitely something.
44:46
Speaker 1: That you know growing up.
44:48
Speaker 5: He made a big part of what w WWE was
44:51
Speaker 5: during that time.
44:55
Speaker 4: I'm not sure you want to take credit for this
44:57
Speaker 4: shock Master, but the greatest of all time.
45:03
Speaker 1: Come on, yes, the biggest embarrassment of the Rhodes family.
45:11
Speaker 1: But anyway, Yeah, when before we wrap things up, I
45:17
Speaker 1: wanted to give everybody a chance to just, I don't know,
45:23
Speaker 1: vent or just proclaim something. You know. I'll give you
45:29
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes to just talk about aw or
45:34
Speaker 1: professional wrestling or whatever you want to talk about. It
45:37
Speaker 1: could be you know, the lights in the ring, whatever
45:42
Speaker 1: you want to talk about. Is there anybody that would
45:46
Speaker 1: like to go first.
45:48
Speaker 4: I'll take it.
45:49
Speaker 1: Go ahead.
45:51
Speaker 4: I want to get major props to thunder Rosa. She
45:55
Speaker 4: has been awesome. She had a great match at Last Collision.
46:00
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people awe her an apology
46:04
Speaker 4: because she was talking down on when when a certain
46:07
Speaker 4: other wrestler tried to bring her down. And she's really
46:09
Speaker 4: shown that she's here for the show and she's a
46:13
Speaker 4: big deal. She's very talented, she's not afraid to put
46:17
Speaker 4: over wrestlers, and she's done a very good job at
46:22
Speaker 4: putting on great quality matches that need to be put on.
46:26
Speaker 4: And she really helped my interest in Paraza because I've
46:30
Speaker 4: never known much about her, So she really put her
46:33
Speaker 4: on the map. And like it or not, she put
46:35
Speaker 4: Baker on the map, and she'll continue to do that
46:38
Speaker 4: as long as they keep giving her a chance. I
46:40
Speaker 4: don't think she has to be world Champion again, but
46:45
Speaker 4: she could be TBS and I wouldn't mind seeing her
46:48
Speaker 4: beating the breaks off of a off of Monet. So
46:53
Speaker 4: that's my piece.
46:54
Speaker 6: I have two things. When I first started watching a
47:00
Speaker 6: W which was at the very beginning of AAW, I
47:04
Speaker 6: fell in love with it because it felt very much
47:09
Speaker 6: like independent wrestling. It felt like it was away from
47:16
Speaker 6: the mainstream, something I hadn't seen in a really long time.
47:22
Speaker 6: I grew up watching WCW and WWF, so I've seen
47:31
Speaker 6: wrestling before it became commercialized and monetized, and that's what
47:36
Speaker 6: AAW really gave me the feel for over the past
47:41
Speaker 6: couple of years. To me, I've begun to kind of
47:45
Speaker 6: be a bit of a cynical wrestling fan when it
47:48
Speaker 6: comes to AAW because I like a lot of the wrestlers.
47:53
Speaker 6: But I feel that, especially since Dark and Elevation have
47:58
Speaker 6: been taken away, it's lost its edge that it had,
48:04
Speaker 6: of the feel for independent wrestling. And I get that
48:09
Speaker 6: things change, but it changed that part of itself a
48:16
Speaker 6: little bit too much. And now I think we're seeing
48:22
Speaker 6: the same wrestlers on TV every week. They're no surprises anymore.
48:29
Speaker 6: You can see what's coming. We've lost a bit of
48:33
Speaker 6: the storytelling, and I'm always saying I love the storytelling,
48:39
Speaker 6: and it's almost like we're able to see behind the
48:43
Speaker 6: curtain a little bit too much. There's always some kind
48:47
Speaker 6: of backstage drama. There's some kind of nonsense going on.
48:52
Speaker 6: Tony Kahan is fearing for his life. There's something that
48:58
Speaker 6: has taken away from the rest and I miss that
49:03
Speaker 6: part and I hope that they get it back. I
49:06
Speaker 6: don't know how they can get it back, but I
49:10
Speaker 6: hope to see it come back. And my other complaint
49:16
Speaker 6: with AEW is lately they have changed their TV lighting
49:22
Speaker 6: and graphics. And I don't share this with a lot
49:27
Speaker 6: of people, but I'm gonna share this one. I am
49:30
Speaker 6: a photosensitive epileptic and something that they are doing with
49:35
Speaker 6: their lighting and graphics, especially on Wednesday nights, makes the
49:40
Speaker 6: show almost unwatchable for me. And it wasn't like this before,
49:46
Speaker 6: but over maybe the past two months, it's gotten this
49:51
Speaker 6: way and nothing has changed with me so and it
49:55
Speaker 6: only happens with AEW. They really get me on Wednesdays
50:03
Speaker 6: a little bit on Saturdays, but usually I know what
50:08
Speaker 6: movies and TV shows and kinds of things to avoid,
50:12
Speaker 6: and AAW has been one of the safe things. So
50:17
Speaker 6: I know it's something that they have done with unexpected
50:22
Speaker 6: flashes of light and the way they're moving that camera around,
50:28
Speaker 6: and I wish they would knock it off. I'm not
50:32
Speaker 6: on Twitter, so I can't complain to any of them
50:35
Speaker 6: on Twitter about whatever it is they're doing. But maybe
50:40
Speaker 6: those other fans that listen to the podcast and also
50:44
Speaker 6: deal with epilepsy have this issue too, and we can
50:49
Speaker 6: all kind of get together and figure out what it
50:52
Speaker 6: is and get AW to stop doing it because they're
50:57
Speaker 6: going to have a lot of fans who can't watch
50:59
Speaker 6: it if they don't. And I've even been to their
51:02
Speaker 6: live shows, so I know it's something happening on TV.
51:09
Speaker 5: I really hope that in the next between now and
51:14
Speaker 5: all out that and maybe a little after that, that
51:17
Speaker 5: Tony gets it, just starts to realize that he does
51:21
Speaker 5: need to change things up. So it's just becoming you know,
51:27
Speaker 5: I haven't really watched the last two Saturday night shows
51:32
Speaker 5: because I looked at what was going to be on
51:34
Speaker 5: and went, Okay, I know what's going to happen.
51:36
Speaker 3: What's the point?
51:38
Speaker 5: And I don't want to get to that point because
51:41
Speaker 5: I love AW. I think it's the best thing going
51:43
Speaker 5: right now. But it's getting to the point where they
51:48
Speaker 5: have he has to get something in him to become
51:52
Speaker 5: more open about how he runs things because the scheduling
51:58
Speaker 5: things the same all the time, people all the time,
52:01
Speaker 5: doing the same matches all the time. I mean, the
52:04
Speaker 5: Statlander Willow match, the rivalry has been overblown completely, the
52:10
Speaker 5: Orange Cassidy thing. That stuff's all got to change because
52:13
Speaker 5: there are so many good wrestlers that we don't get
52:15
Speaker 5: to see, having eight hours a month a week shouldn't
52:20
Speaker 5: be playing time to get a lot of these guys
52:22
Speaker 5: on there, but they're just not there. So I'm hoping
52:26
Speaker 5: that in the next few weeks or the next couple
52:28
Speaker 5: of months, that they'll start to realize that maybe they
52:30
Speaker 5: don't even make some changes and they can get to
52:34
Speaker 5: the point where they do a little bit better of
52:38
Speaker 5: showcasing other talent.
52:41
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, I'll try.
52:42
Speaker 4: Man.
52:42
Speaker 3: I have a bit of a theory on a lot
52:47
Speaker 3: of the negative.
52:49
Speaker 2: Feedback that AW gets, and I think it all comes
52:52
Speaker 2: down to, like, AW is focused on wrestling matches. You know,
52:59
Speaker 2: that's their primary goal is to put on good, long
53:03
Speaker 2: wrestling matches, and if you go to an AW event,
53:07
Speaker 2: a live event, like to see Dynamite or see Collision,
53:11
Speaker 2: it's it's great to watch because you're just watching un
53:16
Speaker 2: filtered wrestling matches one after the other and a little
53:19
Speaker 2: bit of promos and backstage stuff. So it's great show
53:23
Speaker 2: to see live. And I just think there's an issue
53:26
Speaker 2: translating that sometimes to TV because you have commercial breaks
53:31
Speaker 2: and there's breaks in the action. But you know, a
53:34
Speaker 2: fifteen minute match on TV does take away time from
53:38
Speaker 2: other wrestlers. It does take away time from backstage promos
53:42
Speaker 2: and stuff, and I think it's on one hand, it's
53:46
Speaker 2: what everyone wants to see is long wrestling matches, and
53:49
Speaker 2: that's why you tune in to.
53:50
Speaker 3: AW over WWE.
53:52
Speaker 2: But I also think part of that style doesn't translate
53:57
Speaker 2: to television as well, and kind of, you know, in
54:02
Speaker 2: a way, WWE gets flack for not having long matches
54:06
Speaker 2: and little wrestling time, but some of the issue is
54:10
Speaker 2: just it's like a TV issue. You're trying to make
54:13
Speaker 2: the best TV show you can, and I think it's
54:16
Speaker 2: maybe a learning process for AW to figure out the
54:20
Speaker 2: perfect balance there, because I think, yeah, these weeks, the
54:25
Speaker 2: long weeks in between pay per views where they always
54:28
Speaker 2: put on amazing pay per views, but you know, you're
54:31
Speaker 2: six weeks out from a pay per view and you've
54:34
Speaker 2: seen all these TV matches, then it people just kind
54:37
Speaker 2: of interest wanes after a while.
54:42
Speaker 1: I'm going to wrap things up with something that, you know,
54:45
Speaker 1: maybe positive here. I want to give some props to
54:48
Speaker 1: start them. As we know, Ada J has been over
54:53
Speaker 1: at start and participating in their five Star Grand Free
54:57
Speaker 1: Tournament where Energy will wrestling in a minimum of six matches,
55:02
Speaker 1: and there she moves on another two matches with her
55:06
Speaker 1: shot at getting a not at the Startum one. I
55:11
Speaker 1: think it's the wonder of Startum Champion and Championship is
55:14
Speaker 1: what they call it. The reason I want to get
55:15
Speaker 1: props to start them first of all, is that they
55:19
Speaker 1: are really letting Anna Jay shy. She's had two matches.
55:23
Speaker 1: She beats the ORIANEU, which is amazing. He did lose
55:29
Speaker 1: the Starlight Kid, but for people that watched it, they
55:33
Speaker 1: did say that this was Ana Jay's the best match
55:37
Speaker 1: that she's ever had and probably the longest match he's
55:39
Speaker 1: ever had. It was a really good match. The thing
55:42
Speaker 1: I want to give props to start them for is
55:45
Speaker 1: that this particular show where Anna j did wrestle Starlight
55:49
Speaker 1: Kid took place at one pm Eastern in one pm
55:56
Speaker 1: I'm sorry one pm in Japan, which is midnight Eastern
56:02
Speaker 1: and nine pm Central Pacific in the United States, and
56:07
Speaker 1: Stardom was kind enough to put that match for free
56:10
Speaker 1: live on YouTube so people could watch the match. It's
56:16
Speaker 1: still up there, you know, because it wasn't YouTube video.
56:20
Speaker 1: If you haven't seen it, just go on to the
56:22
Speaker 1: Stardom official YouTube channel. You'll see the match card and
56:27
Speaker 1: it chose the Starlight Kid. The thumbnail for the match
56:32
Speaker 1: is for that particular show is as the thumbnail of
56:37
Speaker 1: Starlight Kid and and A J. Now, they didn't show
56:40
Speaker 1: the whole go, but they did cut and they did
56:44
Speaker 1: cut it off right after the AA Jay and Starlight
56:46
Speaker 1: Kid batch was over. But I just thought it was
56:49
Speaker 1: nice of Stardom to give the opportunity to American fans
56:55
Speaker 1: to see Ener Jay and Starlight Kid perform for free.
57:02
Speaker 1: And it was also smart marketing because now people will
57:08
Speaker 1: have looked at that and they may say, well, I've
57:10
Speaker 1: got to watch these other matches and joined stardom World,
57:14
Speaker 1: which is their streaming service online and it costs like
57:20
Speaker 1: six bucks a month, and it's worth it because you
57:22
Speaker 1: get to see so many rate things. The Stardom is special,
57:27
Speaker 1: it really is. But anyway, props to Stardom for giving
57:31
Speaker 1: American fans the opportunity to watch and A Jay and
57:34
Speaker 1: Starlight Kid for free. We will be back tomorrow night
57:39
Speaker 1: with all we talk with our review of aw Dynamite,
57:44
Speaker 1: and then next week we're just going to be hitting
57:46
Speaker 1: this hard because I'm hoping we have some positive stuff
57:49
Speaker 1: to talk about that a lot of stuff will be
57:52
Speaker 1: coming out on Dynamite, Rampage and Collision this week, leading
57:57
Speaker 1: into Wales and Wimbley khym So. For the ae W
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Speaker 1: fanb podcast team, this is Kelson is Alex. Good night, everybody, night,
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Speaker 1: everybody
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Speaker 6: Good night everyone Okay week