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She Lied About EVERY Degree on Her Résumé · Luke's English Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Most of what's on his resume is completely made up.
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  Speaker 2: He just left. None of us knew where he went.
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  Speaker 3: Or why she didn't have one legitimate degree on her resume,
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  Speaker 3: not one. MIT confronted her and she resigned within forty
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  Speaker 3: eight hours.
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  Speaker 4: This is The Bad Hire, the show with the best
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  Speaker 4: stories about the worst employees.
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  Speaker 1: We fired him.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, people are crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It's like an hr nightmare.
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  Speaker 4: R if one bad hire stole all of it crazy stuff.
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  Speaker 3: She got what she deserved.
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  Speaker 4: Oh. I'm your host, Ken Monroe, and every week we
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  Speaker 4: dive into real life stories from the wild world of
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  Speaker 4: work and what can happen when the wrong person gets
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  Speaker 4: the job. These stories aren't just crazy in their cautionary
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  Speaker 4: tales about lessons learned the hard way.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get started, everybody.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome back to the podcast The Bad Hire, where we
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  Speaker 4: tell the best stories about some of the worst hires ever. Welcome, Emma, Hi,
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  Speaker 4: what's up? Oh you know Kyrie, my guy. Good to
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  Speaker 4: have you, sir, Yeah, good to be here. Yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 4: excited about that.
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  Speaker 2: You hadn't been on here before.
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  Speaker 3: I know, the first time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it took you.
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  Speaker 3: So long, for real, for real, for right.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody knows Kyrie's If you don't know, go to if
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  Speaker 4: you if you don't know Kyrie's on be check sales team.
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  Speaker 4: But you need to you got to go check out
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  Speaker 4: the LinkedIn post where he sang to a.
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  Speaker 5: Now he's got cool LinkedIn posts because he does these
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  Speaker 5: really cool LinkedIn posts where he sings.
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  Speaker 2: One of them.
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  Speaker 4: One of them is about people not answering her calls,
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  Speaker 4: which I love that one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But the other day he was speaking at a uh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah it was.
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  Speaker 4: It was at a It was at a trade show
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  Speaker 4: or something, and he had to go up front and
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  Speaker 4: talk to to the entire trade show show for a
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  Speaker 4: couple of minutes, and he actually had the entire place singing.
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  Speaker 4: He got him all singing, which was awesome. That was
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  Speaker 4: that was that was good stuff, man.
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  Speaker 2: Trying to get them engaged.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they were.
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  Speaker 2: I was seeing the sweet Caroline right. Uh.
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  Speaker 4: So, welcome guys. Hey, you know you guys know the drill.
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  Speaker 4: I here's what we do every you know, every week,
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  Speaker 4: we we read some of the wildest, weirdest, jaw dropping
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  Speaker 4: kind of crazy stories.
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  Speaker 2: They could be.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, you know, I think a lot of them are
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  Speaker 4: just like unbelievably, can't believe that happened.
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  Speaker 2: Or sometimes they're a little redeeming. That's the ones.
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  Speaker 4: I love, the good hearted ones where maybe somebody blows
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  Speaker 4: it up but recovers and and does it. You know,
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  Speaker 4: it does something amazing. But what we do is we
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  Speaker 4: tell these stories and the folks that are in the
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  Speaker 4: hiring business, uh, business owners, you know, people who are
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  Speaker 4: dealing with people every day, employees. Surely this resonates with
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  Speaker 4: them because we've all had a really bad hire before.
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  Speaker 4: Probably so. But listen, we also have a contest going.
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  Speaker 4: So if if you submit your stories, you can go
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  Speaker 4: to badhire dot com. Submit your stories, check out how
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  Speaker 4: to submit the story, and that's how you get on
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  Speaker 4: the show. We'll we'll read your story if you say
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  Speaker 4: you want to be on a segment. If you get
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  Speaker 4: an email from us asking if you want to do
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  Speaker 4: a segment, hey respond and just say, hey.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, I'd love to do it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, we'll set up some time with a producer, they'll
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  Speaker 4: film a clip with you you're telling your story, and then
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  Speaker 4: we'll play it on the show. Absolutely do that. That's
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  Speaker 4: super cool. And then you know, you can just submit
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  Speaker 4: them directly to our email I think at whatever a form. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: so there's a form and some emails you can send them.
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  Speaker 4: Now you can be anonymous, one of the one of
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  Speaker 4: the submissions. Today's anonymous that I want to You know,
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  Speaker 4: they want to submit, They want to they want to
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  Speaker 4: compete for the ten thousand dollars. But they you know,
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  Speaker 4: they don't want their name in the stories. And that's
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  Speaker 4: totally cool too. We'll be happy to protect your identity
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  Speaker 4: as we tell your crazy story. So thebadhire dot com
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  Speaker 4: chance to win ten thousand, ten thousand bucks, Good luck
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  Speaker 4: to you. Shoot your shot. Let's see it. Yep, so good, yep,
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  Speaker 4: all right, you want to jump into it? Yes, close
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  Speaker 4: up me, I start yep. All right, here it is.
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  Speaker 4: In my younger years, I worked for a bank, not
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  Speaker 4: in a great location, but that's not important to the story.
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  Speaker 4: I was there long enough for three managers to come
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  Speaker 4: and go, and the third and final manager I worked
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  Speaker 4: under was terrible. He was transferred to the branch to
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  Speaker 4: clean up as we had already failed two audits. So
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  Speaker 4: let's call this manager Joe. Joe had a knack of
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  Speaker 4: showing up disheveled, riding on three or four hours of sleep,
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  Speaker 4: chugging five hour energy shots all day and just overall
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  Speaker 4: making sure we all knew he hated the opening shifts
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  Speaker 4: his day to day. His day to day consisted of
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  Speaker 4: hanging out in his office and only popping out when
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  Speaker 4: an attractive lamp and stop did so. How he would
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  Speaker 4: find his way up behind the teller line taking over
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  Speaker 4: a transaction we were already processing. This man would fold
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  Speaker 4: this uh, this man would fold and offer everything under
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  Speaker 4: the sun to these women waving fees, processing refunds. On
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  Speaker 4: one occasion, I had to go physically ask him to
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  Speaker 4: override a system message for me to complete a transaction,
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  Speaker 4: as my previous attempts were met with hold on or
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  Speaker 4: just a minute, wait a second. No surprise to anyone.
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  Speaker 4: He was helping another good looking lady that makes me
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  Speaker 4: so uncomfortable through a class acts people coming in to
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  Speaker 4: the pig, and you just see this guy jump out,
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  Speaker 4: come rolling out the land the counter. You just had
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  Speaker 4: to be like, I mean, that's gotta be terrible, yeah, right.
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  Speaker 4: When he finally made it over to my window, he
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  Speaker 4: processed the override and waved off our customer. This man
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  Speaker 4: physically grabbed my forearm and twisted it, gritting his teeth,
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  Speaker 4: advising never interrupt him again. Okay, fast forward a few months.
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  Speaker 1: Wait was this who was?
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  Speaker 6: So?
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  Speaker 2: Apparently he's doing is he's doing? You know, he's shooting
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  Speaker 2: the many shots.
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  Speaker 4: He tries all too long.
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  Speaker 5: And he comes and she's trying to get his attention
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  Speaker 5: behind to tell her because she needs something undone, she
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  Speaker 5: needs an override code, and so she she interrupts him
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  Speaker 5: to let him know.
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  Speaker 4: And then after he handles the the good looking woman transaction,
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  Speaker 4: he comes over to her and grabs her by her wrist.
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  Speaker 1: So another woman, what he twisted?
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  Speaker 4: Another woman? It's the woman telling the story. Oh, so
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  Speaker 4: she's saying, she she went over to him. She's asking him, right,
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  Speaker 4: she asked him to do this override, but he was
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  Speaker 4: already talking to this good looking uh, this good looking customer.
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  Speaker 4: So when that's over, he comes over to her and
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  Speaker 4: snatches her wrist up and gives her a tight squeeze
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  Speaker 4: and a twist that makes sure she knows don't ever
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  Speaker 4: interrupt immediately. Not the Emperor's groove.
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  Speaker 1: Emil, what would you do him?
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  Speaker 3: Would you just drop him?
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  Speaker 2: I know what you would do?
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  Speaker 1: Well what I do?
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  Speaker 4: I know what you would do? You do you know
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  Speaker 4: how you down nine to one one you would be.
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  Speaker 1: Like darling one.
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  Speaker 4: No no, no, no, I didn't say that. You would
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  Speaker 4: be U d A D.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I would be yup would be doing that. D
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  Speaker 1: D absolutely would be doing that.
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  Speaker 4: Uh Dad that this man just put his hand on me.
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  Speaker 4: I feel sorry for unreal adult. Never interrupt me again,
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  Speaker 4: he says. Fast forward a few months, and all these
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  Speaker 4: freebies caught up to him, Joe found out. So he's
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  Speaker 4: given all these ladies freebies. Fast forward a few months.
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  Speaker 4: All these freebies caught up him. Joe founded found out
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  Speaker 4: somehow that he was being fired, and instead of waiting
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  Speaker 4: as one would as one would to kind of accept
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  Speaker 4: their fate when they're going to get fired, he just
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  Speaker 4: walked up.
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  Speaker 2: He just left. None of us knew where he went
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  Speaker 2: or why.
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  Speaker 4: What we did know is that the market director showed up,
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  Speaker 4: only to ask where he had gone off to. So
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  Speaker 4: market director shows up, ask him where he's at. Come
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  Speaker 4: to find out, he scurried off to the branch up
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  Speaker 4: the road to cozy up with the manager there. I
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  Speaker 4: never knew how that panned out. I was leaving for
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  Speaker 4: the day after that, someone said the market I was
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  Speaker 4: leaving for the day after after that, and someone said
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  Speaker 4: the market director yelled into the phone that he needed
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  Speaker 4: to come back to the branch immediately.
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  Speaker 1: So wait, so he assumed he was going to get fired,
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  Speaker 1: and he just walked out of the building.
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  Speaker 2: I guess, so just walks.
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  Speaker 4: Up this walks up to another branch.
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  Speaker 1: I'm I done. I'm sure this is it for them.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I'll just go down.
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  Speaker 4: I'm about to get fired.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna head up with this other brand see if
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  Speaker 2: i can get a manager up there.
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  Speaker 1: But certainly I've done enough.
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  Speaker 4: That'll give me a an out until i'll take him. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I'm real. Oh gosh, never mind.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna say something, but I don't think I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to say it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think I will not say it. I'm good, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I know, I I uh, you know his this guy's
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  Speaker 4: driver man was like like like I don't know, he's
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  Speaker 4: running that like it was some type of dating scene
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  Speaker 4: for him.
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  Speaker 2: You know, It's like.
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  Speaker 1: That just it just makes me really uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 4: I'm right sure, Joe. Yeah, I would tell you if
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  Speaker 4: some if this one of my one of my employees
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  Speaker 4: grabbed on that drone, if one of my male employees
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  Speaker 4: grab one of my female buoys by the arm like that.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god. Yeah, that's a problem.
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  Speaker 2: Bound your as so fast.
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  Speaker 4: so uh let's let's let's go. Do I think we gotta?
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  Speaker 4: I think we gotta. What is this?
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  Speaker 1: This is the this is Matt. I think Nathan met
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  Speaker 1: with her?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, great, but yeah, all right, all right, Matt, let's
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  Speaker 4: let's here.
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  Speaker 2: Let's hear it.
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  Speaker 6: We heard a young lady as a clerk leave.
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  Speaker 7: She was in her late twice and she was great.
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  Speaker 7: She was a hard worker. She was dependable. She picked
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  Speaker 7: everything up really fast. So a year or so into
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  Speaker 7: her tenure and she ends up pregnant. But towards the
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  Speaker 7: end of her pregnancy, she decided she wasn't going to
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  Speaker 7: take a fraternity lead. She was just going to be
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  Speaker 7: stay at home mom. So she had a younger sister
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  Speaker 7: that happened to be looking for job at the same time.
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  Speaker 6: It seemed like her to timing for us, and it
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  Speaker 6: just worked out well, so we brought her in with
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  Speaker 6: her beer hire. She seemed to have been on the
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  Speaker 6: shy side, but her sister kind of smarted got flight
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  Speaker 6: as well, so that not a big deal. But now
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  Speaker 6: as she's going, I believe she's there two or three
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  Speaker 6: months and she's learning. She's not quite catching on like
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  Speaker 6: we'd like. So you know, she're going and we're working
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  Speaker 6: with her. But then one day a police officer shows
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  Speaker 6: up and it just comes in he asked for and uh,
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  Speaker 6: they go, they talking back for a minute, they come out,
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  Speaker 6: she's upset.
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  Speaker 2: They walk out to the.
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  Speaker 7: Fartylat and they risked her and come to find out.
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  Speaker 6: So she was working as an office clerk taking payments
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  Speaker 6: and apparently she had wrapped down a customer's hard information
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  Speaker 6: and then used it to her car payment and.
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  Speaker 3: Then got rice back pretty quickly.
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  Speaker 1: How stupid can you?
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  Speaker 2: Forgot her money back?
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  Speaker 6: Everything fine, but she had to be terminated.
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  Speaker 1: That did you think was gonna happen?
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  Speaker 2: Holdly? Never get this right?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I write down your credit card iforge and
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  Speaker 4: then I go, I go pay my I go pay
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  Speaker 4: my car payment. But where did it get was going
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  Speaker 4: to happen? Which is this crazy charge? Was the hard
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  Speaker 4: hard it's a car payment?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, you gotta really be going through it to
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  Speaker 3: get that desperate to real like that for real?
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  Speaker 1: I mean I get it. Times are tough, but I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what be smarter? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I I hate that they probably.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel i'mn't feel bash because I imagine imagine
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  Speaker 1: the first woman who's like, now I stay at home
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  Speaker 1: on or whatever. She's like, dang, I hated my sister
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  Speaker 1: off of these people, and she just stole from them
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  Speaker 1: like she.
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  Speaker 4: Had to know her sister.
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  Speaker 3: We were kind of wild maybe so.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe so, Well, she's your problem.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever what do you got?
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  Speaker 2: Emma?
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  Speaker 1: Me? Okay, I just have one today, let me find it. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: here we go I'm just sorry the MIC's in the way.
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  Speaker 1: So buddy of mine works at a mid sized finance firm,
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  Speaker 1: open floor plan analysts pulled the whole setup. They bring
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  Speaker 1: on a new hire. We're gonna call him Dylan, who
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  Speaker 1: starts on a Monday, and by Tuesday at lunch is
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  Speaker 1: already across the street at the cafe with a couple
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  Speaker 1: of his new coworkers. By all accounts, Dylan is in
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  Speaker 1: great spirits. He's talking loudly about how hilarious it is
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  Speaker 1: that he got the job at all, because most of
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  Speaker 1: what's on his resume is completely made up, and he's
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  Speaker 1: not being vague about it. He's listening out one by
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  Speaker 1: lunch Yeah for real, Yeah, he was definitely reading up
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  Speaker 1: on that one thread. The certification fake, the previous role
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  Speaker 1: never happened, The big project he claimed to have led
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  Speaker 1: wasn't even at his old company. He's laughing, His coworkers
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  Speaker 1: are laughing. It's a whole moment. But what Dylan did
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  Speaker 1: not know is that his boss is sitting in the
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  Speaker 1: booth directly bye way.
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  Speaker 4: So he's at lunch. Is that what's happening? Yeah, he's
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  Speaker 4: at lunch with at lunch, I guess he goes. So
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  Speaker 4: he started on.
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  Speaker 1: Monday, and then the next day he's already like made
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  Speaker 1: friends or whatever. So they go out to lunch the
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  Speaker 1: second day and he's already.
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  Speaker 3: Just spilling and the boss is sitting in the booth
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  Speaker 3: next to him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he just happens to be there, but he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: see him at first. The boss doesn't say a word,
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  Speaker 1: he just sits there, He finishes his sandwich, he pays,
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  Speaker 1: walks by to the office, and when Dylan returns from
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  Speaker 1: lunch about fifteen minutes later, his desk has already been
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  Speaker 1: clear down. It's a total tenure, approximately twenty eight hours.
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  Speaker 4: And that was the end of doing not not totally
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  Speaker 4: a first dy flame out.
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  Speaker 2: But pretty close.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty close.
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  Speaker 4: I mean we have a lot of stories to do that,
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  Speaker 4: like him make all that up.
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  Speaker 2: You know that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't get the I don't get the uh, the
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  Speaker 4: bragging about it like the next day.
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  Speaker 1: I don't get bragging about it at all.
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  Speaker 4: Really, But what do I know?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that you take to your grave.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't believe you guys let me in. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: not if it's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: I'm how did you guys skate here?
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  Speaker 1: Because I don't know how I got here you're looking.
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  Speaker 4: Around everybody going everybody probably lied.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like I'm sure somebody could somebody else could relate.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: He saved this all the time. I just did a dish,
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  Speaker 4: did a piece of content. The other day we did
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  Speaker 4: the U the radio check that lad on his resume
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  Speaker 4: and made it all the way to the c and
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  Speaker 4: he was actually crushing it as a CEO. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: got a couple of Duy's. Somebody started investigating.
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  Speaker 3: Boom.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he's got to he loses his job over.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he probably wouldn't have gotten the job, to
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  Speaker 4: be honest, because you know, everybody was said, well he
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  Speaker 4: doesn't have a degree, but he was given an opportunity
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  Speaker 4: and he worked his way up.
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  Speaker 2: You know. I hate that. And then yeah, yeah, you mentioned.
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  Speaker 3: Like what do they do when they're presented with something
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  Speaker 3: and it's not in their willhouse, They don't know what
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  Speaker 3: to do or how to do it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Chad gpt I guess, yeah, what do we do it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that story sounds kind of similar to Kari's does.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all right, tell me about it. Ky.
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  Speaker 3: All right, So this one isn't from Reddie.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: This is actually a real news story.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, one of the best examples of resumes fraud I've
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: ever heard.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 3: Merrily Jones was the dean of admissions at m I T,
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  Speaker 3: not a dean at some regional school, the m I T.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: She was genuinely famous in her field, the kind of
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: person who got quoted in The New York Times by
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: first name. She co wrote a book telling high school
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  Speaker 3: is to stop patting their resumes, relax, and just be authentic.
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  Speaker 3: She gave commencement speeches about honesty. She was, for all
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  Speaker 3: intents and purposes, the face of academic integrity and college admissions.
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  Speaker 3: She had been at MIT for twenty eight years when
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  Speaker 3: in two thousand and seven, someone sent in an anonymous
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  Speaker 3: tip suggesting that they take a closer look at her
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  Speaker 3: credentials their sister.
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  Speaker 2: So they did.
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  Speaker 3: So they did. Marily Jones had listed degrees from three
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  Speaker 3: different schools on her original nineteen seventy nine application. She
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: had attended one of them briefly and had not graduated.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: The other two she had never enrolled in at all,
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  Speaker 3: not for a single day. She didn't have one legitimate
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: degree on her resume, not one. MIT confronted her, and
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  Speaker 3: she resigned within forty eight hours, twenty eight years at
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  Speaker 3: one of the most prestigious institutions in the world, a
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: career built entirely on dident so she made up in
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: nineteen seventy nine and never bothered to update. The most
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  Speaker 3: cited admissions dean in the country, the woman who builds
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: a career telling kids to stop lying on their applications.
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  Speaker 1: I want to know why it took the one person
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  Speaker 1: twenty eight years to send in the anonymous thing, like
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  Speaker 1: it's been this long. I want her, I want her
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  Speaker 1: to go down now.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: I admire that's a long time to hate on someone.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, supply to play on.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Her downfall for that long. That was not a crazy thing,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: was she?
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: What's crazy? When I was listening to that is like
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: she was like projecting right the whole time, is like
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: she you know, she feels like it's deep in it,
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: deep in you, that you're just an utter liar to
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: get here.
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  Speaker 2: Yep y.
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  Speaker 4: So then you become the mouthpiece for integrity, you know.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: And I could only think that that's done in a
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: way to try to like direct people away. Don't look
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: at me if I'm talking about do all these things
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: do it this way? Yeah, it's got to be like,
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: because you know, I don't want you to look at me,
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: so you're just like super projecting.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: And yeah, another thing I wonder is, if she was
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: working at this esteemed like institution, why didn't they double
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: check SHEU will check her credentials too. Don't like I
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: feel like they I feel like they should have done that.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: That's a great point, but I mean, yeah, I was
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: just about to say, yeah, I mean, it's been a
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: long time, I guess, but I mean, I mean people
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: have been lying for however long. So I feel like,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: you like, just because it was twenty eight years ago,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: doesn't me she's just as trustworthy as she was. But whatever.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Just imagine she's like disciplining someone committed fraud on their resume.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: She's like, how dare you?
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: How dare you? Did you even read my book? I didn't.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: Here's a dot, here's a god. Let me sign up
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: for you to read my book.
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  Speaker 6: M hm
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  Speaker 4: M hmm.