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Wake up to Die Again with Scott Lackey · Success Matters

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You and I have met people. There are people probably
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listening right now. They're waking up every day in
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their life just to die again. They're lost, they're miserable,
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they don't know anything, they don't know where to go.
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If I need outside things to make me feel whole or in alignment,
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then I need to start looking inward and fixing what that hole
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is. Start proving to yourself that
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you can trust yourself again. You're the problem and the
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solution all at one time. We all have to make a choice,
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live with it or deal with it. Scott, thank you very much for
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joining me on Success Matters. You have a book launched and
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it's got a really interesting title.
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So tell us about the book, the title, and what led you to write
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this book. You got it.
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And thank you for letting me join you on your podcast.
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I'm inspired to be here today. And so the name of the book is
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Wake Up to Die Again, and there's a subtitle Breaking Who
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You Became so You Can Be Who You're Meant to Be and.
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Wake up to die again. Is I mean that that's what
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caught my eye. Is though.
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That's what? Tell us what?
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What do you mean? Yeah.
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Quite provocative, isn't it? Very provocative, yes.
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Yeah, and, and it really has two meanings.
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And of course, readers will dig into this through 24 chapters.
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On one side of the coin, you and I have met people.
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There are people probably listening right now.
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They're waking up every day in their life just to die again.
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They're long, they're miserable. They don't know.
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They don't know, they don't know anything.
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They don't know where to go. And my book will meet them
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exactly where they are because my life, much of my life has
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been wake up to die again. And the wake up part of the
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story is I'm on the mountaintop and I can see horizon to horizon
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and the sun is in my face, only to find out later through a
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lightning strike that something was eviscerated.
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And that was me and I was at the bottom.
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And and so that's the theme that moves through the book is waking
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up to die again. So on one hand, we're
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addressing, I'm addressing directly men and women who are
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lost and don't know where to go. And I want to walk through that
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with them in the book. And on the other hand, there's
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another part of my audience and that audiences are men like you
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and myself that have grown through these pains.
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And I want to speak to people that are looking for more.
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And so, so where there's two sides of a coin that I'm
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addressing there because I've been on both.
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Sides, right. OK.
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And when you say the lightning strike, that is a metaphorical
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or was that literally you were struck by lightning on a
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mountain? Completely fair question.
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It is the opening 1 to my introduction in the book about
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lightning strikes and the way I use lightning strikes because we
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can all relate to their power and their instance that they
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occur in a millisecond. And I, I use that metaphor and
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I'm glad you asked that because that's what it feels like when
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we as human beings are hit with life's lightning strikes, right?
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When you're sitting across the desk or on the phone or video
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conference from a doctor and they deliver the diagnosis that
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you prayed would not happen. Or when the spouse walks in when
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Dan says I'm done and leave, right?
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Or being told you're fired, right?
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There's something that we've all experienced, some of us more
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than others, and events that feel like lightning strikes.
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And again, I use that metaphor because the person that you were
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one millisecond before that event, you can never return to
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again. You've been permanently changed.
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That's ultimately what I mean by lightning strike, and that's why
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I start out the very first sentence in my book in the
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introduction of defining what a lightning strike is.
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Because as you read through the 24 chapters, I'm going to share
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some lightning strikes that will not be, you know, identical to
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anybody else's journey or life, but there will be millions of
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people who identify with exactly what I talked about because of
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the authenticity and transparency of which I talked
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about. It right OK, what lightning
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strikes happened in your life to lead you to writing this book?
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Absolutely. The earliest one, and this is
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the one I start early in the early in the book talking about
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was when I was in high school. This is really when I first, I
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didn't understand what a lightning strike was.
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But this was a first significant event in my life where I
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couldn't return to who I was a few minutes ago.
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And this was triggered by people in my in my life in a short
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period of time. A particular teacher who told me
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that I was at college material and embarrassed me in front of
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my entire senior class as I had to March back to the school in
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front of everybody. A coach who sat me down and
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said, listen, if you're going to play basketball in college, I
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need to know today because I've got to start calling people.
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And that doesn't sound like anything significant.
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But if you knew me at high school, I lived life in the
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moment. I didn't think about yesterday.
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I didn't care about tomorrow. I live for today.
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I mean, literally lived in the day.
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So when he began poking holes in the future and making me think
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about it made me uncomfortable. I didn't want to think about
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going to play basketball in college.
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I was happy where I was at. And then of course, my parents,
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to round out the trifecta, set me down on the couch and wanted
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to have a family meeting. And in my family, we didn't have
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family meetings. So this was a serious moment.
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And they sat across from me in the living room and they said
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you have three choices and you can pick any one of these three
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choices in any order. You can go to college, go to
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college or go to college. And all those, those innocent,
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really it really insignificant things hit me all at one time
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and jerked me out of my life and comfort zone where I was and
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laying in bed one night panicking on what am I actually
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going to do because now I have to make a decision.
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A commercial came on television here in the United States and
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the commercial was join the United States Army.
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And it ended with the theme of be all you can be.
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We do more before 8 AM, 8:00 AM than most people do all day.
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And I set up out of bed watching helicopters and tanks go across
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the screen. And I knew instantaneously that
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that was what I was supposed to. Didn't know why I didn't know
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anything about the Army. But I went from an absolute
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abysmal misery, not what you're not knowing anything, to
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instantaneously being fulfilled with absolute certainty that I
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was supposed to go in the United States Army.
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Now that is a mild example of a lightning strike in my life.
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I'll Fast forward to many years later because this is another
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chapter in the book where I invented a product, a product
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called the Childhood Health Passport.
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My wife and I put everything we ever had into that health
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passport. It evolved into other products
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for senior citizens, adults and pets and financial.
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And the business was doing well, not perfect, but well, but well
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enough that a private equity firm took interest in our
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business plan and the private equity firm agreed that it
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should be funded because there were great things in the future.
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And so we signed an agreement and they invested $3,000,000
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into the small company. And I'll never forget that day
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because I called the bank and I didn't say anything other.
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Could you tell me my account balance?
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And when they said it, I said thank you and hung up the phone.
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I just wanted to yell. I couldn't say anything because
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I had won the Lotto. I had literally won the American
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Dream. And it was something my wife got
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to participate in. Other family members were
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involved. You know, and matter of fact,
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that day I, I, we boarded a plane and went to Cancun, Mexico
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to celebrate for four days. Right.
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Came back, went to work and almost six months to the day in
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a board meeting, my fellow investors and board members said
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we need to take a right turn. And as the president, company
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and the management team who said we're going straight, we built
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this, we invented the company, we're going straight.
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And that was when I got my first lightning strike of the
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difference between power and control.
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I had power to make decisions. They had control in the company
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and they fired me and took everything and left me with all
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the personal guarantees. And I was financially
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eviscerated with my pregnant wife and 2 1/2 year old son.
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So the person I was that morning going into work no longer
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existed. No longer existed.
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I mean wiped out. So those two examples are easy
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examples for a listener to go. I clearly understand lightning
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strikes and that didn't happen to me, but I've got my own.
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Yeah, absolutely. We, we, we all have our own.
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And, and sometimes it can be like as you said, said with,
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yeah, your, your childhood or, or teenage years where it's not
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necessarily a thing that you recognize as a lightning strike
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per SE. Like you're going to, you know,
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you're going to decide I'm going to play basketball or not in
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college or that sort of thing. But it does does change you,
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right? It does change you.
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It can be a little thing or a big thing like you just explain.
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And of course, health, health is usually one of the biggest
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lightning strikes as we have, as you said, around that.
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So what's, you know, you're taking your business and, and
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the, the fact that they got rid of you, they left you with all
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the personal guarantees, all the debt that you had said you would
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pay off personally. How did you pick yourself up
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from that? And what did you do to, you
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know, get your life back on track?
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Yeah, you know, it it's going to, it's not going to sound
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romantic by any means. And I write about this in great
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detail in the book. And you know, this is just one
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chapter in the book. And I'm emphasizing that because
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most people when they have an event like this, could write an
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entire book about 1 chapter of their life.
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And I took a different route in that I wanted to tell more of a
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life story arc because our journeys more about our life,
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not individual events. Right?
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Yeah. And so I, I say that to circle
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back to answering your question, how do you recover from that is
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I don't know that I did recover well for a long time because I
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had all of the expected emotions of rage and anger and
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frustration and fear and lack of motivation and disappointment
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and shame. And you just, you just run
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through all of the, the buffet of emotions.
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And I went through every single one of them at various times.
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But you can't live off of that. Now some people do, I know
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people that are, you know, in their 40s and 50s and 60s that
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are still carrying anger with them from their wrongs, from God
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knows what, right. So I, I shouldn't say you can't
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live with it. You can live with it, but it'll
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eat you from the inside like a cancer over time and you'll
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regret it eventually. So, So what I ended up doing is
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I had to make a choice. We all have to make a choice,
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live with it or deal with it. And the choice for me was to
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turn around and face all of the lies that my brain was telling
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me, that voice inside our head was telling me, and turn around
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and face that and say, you know what?
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I would have just walked through all of this.
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Tell me all the things one more time that you think are true.
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And the more I went through that, the more I started
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listening to these voices going, you know, that's not true.
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That's not true. And so when I started
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reconciling those things, it actually led me to a place where
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I had a memory of, wait a minute, how did we start this in
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the 1st place? I went back to the beginning.
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How did all this get started? And, and so the, you know, the,
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I felt like this idea was given to me as a gift from God, a
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thought that was placed in my head sitting in a neonatal
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intensive care unit at Children's Hospital in Fort
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Worth, TX. That's, that's where the idea
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came to me. And I didn't implement it for
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years later. But when I went back and
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revisited how this idea came to me, my ultimate reconciliation
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was 2 words, stewardship versus control.
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And the whole time I was running the business with the team and
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leading up to it, I had this mindset of ownership.
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I own this, this is me. I created this, Megan.
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There were other people involved in the business, but this is me
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and you talking, right? So, so that was this mindset
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that I had. And I look back on it and go,
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wait a minute, this was given to you.
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If you really believe this was given to you, then that's called
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stewardship, Scott. And when you're giving
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stewardship over something, it may come, it may go, it
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shouldn't matter because stewardship is not ownership.
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That was a massive reconciliation because I
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accepted that it was stewardship.
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And so granted, I didn't like how it was moved.
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That was my choice on how I reacted, right?
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It's another thing we, we talked about in the world.
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It should never be about what happens.
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It should always be about how you respond.
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And I responded poorly, right? And so that that ultimate
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reconciliation then happened to weeks and months, but that
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ultimate reconciliation, that it was stewardship, not ownership,
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that that's where the gifts actually came from this.
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So do you, do you apply that to everything now in your life that
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you that, yeah, whatever it is, whether it's your relationship,
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whether it's, you know, the, the home you live in or a business
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you're running now that it's a gift that's been given to you
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and you're a steward of it? Or do you still sometimes fall
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into that kind of ownership part of it life?
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The answer is both, but it is rarely the second the ladder
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because I am human and, and we are, we are going to continue to
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make mistakes. But I find some of these
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mistakes are much more shallow than they were in my earlier
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life or I catch them earlier, if you will.
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So no, but I do. That did carry forward with me,
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not perfectly, but it did carry forward with me.
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And I look at everything as stewardship.
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My health is an example. I'm a steward of that, right?
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I don't control that. I influence it, but I'm a
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steward of that and my relationship with my wife and my
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son and my daughter, right? And I take great pride in making
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sure that, that, that is a family first is taking care of
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my neighbors. I, I try to stewardship that
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relationship, right? Or my colleagues.
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I, I take, I, I try to be very mindful of doing those things.
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And everybody I interact with or things that I'm personally
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involved with is having a stewardship mindset.
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And the, and the way I look at it is, is like, it's like an
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open hand, right? If you put your hand into a
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bucket of water and try to squeeze a handful of it, the
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more you squeeze, the less you have.
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And so, so that mindset of stewardship to me as an open
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hand, right, The bird's free to fly if the bird's free to fly,
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right? Yeah.
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And, and so, but but yes, and, and, and later in in my life or
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throughout my life, there have been events, and I write about
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some of them in the book, actually, where I felt like a
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possession or an asset or a liability where you want to look
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at was causing me or making me think a certain way.
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And I refuse to buy it because I didn't want, I didn't want a a
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physical object to be something that made me feel whole.
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And the way I, the way I say that is, is if I can't feel
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whole as a human being in an alignment, in the absence of
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travel, a possession, a gift, a distance.
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If I can't feel whole because of something, I've got internal
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things to work on. If I need outside things to make
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me feel whole or in alignment, that I need to start looking
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inward and fixing what that hole is.
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Yeah, that's that's the. Awareness that came from that
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and. That's that's great because
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that's a large part of why I set up this podcast is right as we
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see, particularly in kind of the social media channels, people
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who have this external aspects of success right.
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The the, the, the car of the house, the whatever it is
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sitting on an aircraft. But, but it's, it's not really,
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it's not whole, right? It's not, it's not you, it's and
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it's not fulfilling. So what is that?
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What is that whole that you're filling with that that you need
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to really work on rather than, you know, that physical aspect?
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Yeah. And, and I'd love to talk about
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that because that's one of the messages that comes out in my
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book, right? And I say basically that when I
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learned that I'm not enough for myself, when I'm not enough for
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me, then I need to stop whatever it is I'm doing and do an
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examination of what is that? What is that fear?
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What is that weakness? What is that shortcoming?
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What is the vulnerability? What, what's the transparency?
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And sometimes I don't really understand what I'm wrestling
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with. I don't know why I feel this
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way. And so I, I start journaling
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about it and, and, and trying to write and just almost just vomit
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into my journal about what I'm talking about.
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And, and, and sometimes I forget what even wrote and I go back
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and read it weeks or months later and I'm like, what are you
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even talking about here? You know, But then a little gold
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nugget will come up and go, Oh, that was that little splinter in
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my finger. I couldn't get out.
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You know. Or in my mind, you know, and I
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don't want to belabor the point here, but but I have to tell you
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the story. It's it's in the book.
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I had this. Do you ride motorcycles or know
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anybody by any chance to ride the motorcycles?
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I'm not particularly familiar with motorbikes and I don't
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think any of. Mine your fellow countrymen.
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Ewan McGregor. Do you know Ewan McGregor?
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Yeah, yeah. So you inspired me when he took
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the BMW motorcycles around the world.
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And when I saw that movie, I knew one day I was going to own
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one of those BMW adventure bikes.
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And so sure enough, I bought 1 and it was it literally, I
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believe it was the most beautiful thing I've ever
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purchased in my life. And I took it on trips around
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the United States. And I came home and my soul, my,
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my kids will tell you, my parents, my wife will tell you,
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my soul was changed when I would go on these trips, right?
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I would smile for weeks. And after a year, year to know
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about two years, I guess I've lost track.
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Something came into my brain, a little voice came in my brain
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saying you have to get rid of the bike.
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Where did that come from? And I would ignore it.
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Hours, day we go by, you need to get rid of the bike.
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Scott. It's just thought just jumping
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right around in my head and and I write extensively about this
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mental process that I went through that thought and how I
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reconciled it and I sold the bike, right?
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I won't spoil why, but I sold that bike.
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That was the most beautiful thing that I'd ever purchased in
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my life. But I later found out, I think,
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why that voice came to me to sell the bike.
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That's because I always wanted to do an Iron Man and all my
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weekend time or all of my free time was spent riding that bike,
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right. OK.
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And you're not going to do an Iron Man race and you're not
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going to be a triathlete and ride BMWGS, adventure bikes
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around the United States. Those two are incompatible.
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And so this is something I talk about is in my my speeches that
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I give the principle of exchange is that I had to exchange a love
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that I had for that BMW buy for an exchange for something I
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wanted to experience with an Iron Man.
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Two of those things could not occupy the same space in my
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life. And so I get got rid of one
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thing that I did love to pursue something else that gave me even
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greater internal satisfaction on things that you can't see,
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right. I gained all these intangibles
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that you could not see through through the train for an Iron
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Man that I would have never gotten owning a BMWGS adventure
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bike. Well then I got great pleasure
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out of. But Iron Man races and Iron Man
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training took it 10X compared to them.
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So that pain of going through that exercise that I talked
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about in the book of why I made decisions without knowing the
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outcome, without knowing about Iron Man races, I talked about
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this and what a beautiful outcome it was, and I'm thankful
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for it. Yeah.
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I mean, this is how did you get this realization that there's
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these this kind of what I suppose what I'm trying to get
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at is to your point, there's lots of people who wake up every
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day to die again, right? And they're going through the
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cycle in life every single day. They don't like the job.
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They don't like what's happening in the their world, but they do
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nothing about it and they just carry on in this cycle.
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Was there a kind of a moment where you suddenly recognize it?
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Maybe you were doing the same and I need to stop and change
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that? Yeah, but again, which one do I
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tell you in my life, right? Because, but but one that comes
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to mind since we were talking about Iron Man.
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So let's talk about COVID. Let's do something recent,
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right. I didn't have a bad COVID
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experience. I for a short period of time, I
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work from home and my wife was here during the summer because
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she's a teacher. So she wasn't working and I was
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at home and we were taking lunch walks together and holding hand
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and telling stories and it was a wonderful time of being with my
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wife. I got to know my neighbors
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better. You.
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Know. And all of that was wonderful.
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And talking about these for no reason whatsoever.
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There was nothing wrong with my life.
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I just started feeling like I wasn't where I was supposed to
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be. Right.
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Couldn't put my finger on it. It was actually pissing me off
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and and this is post selling, you know, the motorcycle.
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This is I'm in, I'm in, I'm just in the spunk, if you will.
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I thought, well, maybe I'll just start having a couple of beers
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and not maybe that'll relax me. I didn't do anything.
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So a moment, if you will. I hate to call it a moment, You
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know, it wasn't like it was epiphany, but but it came back
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to this, this. I guess I would describe it as
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numbness. Some of the what you're talking,
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there's sleep people that wake every day and they're just numb.
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They they're dead all day, right?
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I felt that numbness. And another word came to me
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during that period of time, which was broken promises.
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And it wasn't other people's broken promises.
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It was my broken promises to myself.
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And I started thinking about that, right.
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And that was the little prick of the the balloon in the water
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started coming out. So, oh, broken promises.
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I haven't broken any promises. And then I started thinking
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about. Yeah, yeah, you did.
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You know, you said you were going to do this and you didn't
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do it, and you said you're going to do that.
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You said you're going to do this and that.
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And somewhere along the way and you know, remember this big
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dream you had, Scott? Remember this big dream about
22:52
doing an Iron Man? Remember that where we at?
22:56
Remember you said you're going to write a book.
22:58
Where are we at? So those were the turning around
23:02
and me facing that noise of what was chasing me and examining it
23:06
and unfolding it and digging into it and asking questions and
23:10
wrestling with it. And ultimately those two words
23:13
came up broken promises, Scott. And then it here again for me.
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I can't speak for other people. It forced me to make a choice
23:22
and there was only a left or a right choice.
23:25
A continue with the broken promises that you now have
23:28
knowledge of and you will own what you sow.
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Who? I didn't like that.
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So that means I've got to do an Iron Man.
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No, no, you don't have to do anything.
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You just have to choose. Yeah.
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Well, then, by God, I'm going to do an Iron Man.
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What about writing the book later?
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Not now. And I did.
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I went in in hours, well days, found Iron Man Arizona and
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signed up 12 months out and started training.
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And I didn't tell anybody in my family.
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I told nobody. Right.
24:02
And I won't go into, I won't keep going, but that was that
24:05
was when I started for myself. And I there's listers on there.
24:09
They have to be right now that are wrestling with broken
24:11
promises. And they're like, you have to be
24:13
there. And and so if we could turn back
24:16
to that is it's OK to acknowledge them.
24:20
Hell, bear hug them because the things that you're avoiding, the
24:24
broken promises, you can fix that you just have to ignore
24:28
first thing. First thing is acknowledge it
24:30
because then it doesn't have power over you.
24:32
But you're going to have to make a choice.
24:33
And it doesn't mean you got to go out and do an Iron Man.
24:36
That was for me. And it doesn't mean you got to
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quit your job. OK.
24:40
But what it does mean is you need to make a choice.
24:42
And then then what I had to do when I started my Iron Man
24:46
training, and this is one of the reasons why I didn't tell
24:48
anybody I was scared of my own decision was, Oh my God, I'm not
24:52
going to break that promise. So am I not telling anybody I
24:56
built a safety net, right? And and that's fine if that's
25:01
what you need to do. But for for the listeners, my
25:03
recommendation is, is look at your broken promises to
25:07
yourself, not other people that betrayed you can't fix that.
25:12
But where did other people? Where did you break promises to
25:14
yourself? Then start taking little small
25:16
Lily paths, little baby steps. You don't have to sign up for an
25:19
Airman Ironman. Start proving to yourself that
25:22
you can trust yourself again, 'cause you really, you're the
25:24
problem. You're you're the problem and
25:26
the solution all at one time. And so that was my great, if you
25:30
will, or my one of my, if you want to call it great changes
25:34
was doing that. And, and then things only speed
25:36
up for me after doing the Iron Man.
25:38
And when I say speed up, because once I did the Iron Man, then I
25:41
did the second one, then the third one, then I did the 4th,
25:43
1:00. And then I was in that
25:44
environment and I was like, that voice came back and said, hey,
25:46
Scott, what'd you tell me about the book a few years ago?
25:50
I said, yeah, you're right. And not only did I tell you
25:54
about a few years ago, it's time to write it.
25:55
And so over the last two years, I finished the book and it
25:58
published. It's published.
25:59
You know, yeah, absolutely. So look at yourself, look at
26:03
your broken promises. And as you say, acknowledge
26:06
them, either do something with them or as you say, there's the
26:10
choice, right? You ignore it.
26:11
You, you, you move on to something else.
26:13
And that's. But don't beat yourself up over
26:16
it I suppose is the the thing. It it is the message and and
26:19
that's part of acknowledging the broken promises is is not to
26:24
beat yourself up, but I was my mom told them is when I was a
26:27
kid. She's, you know, Scott, there's
26:28
nobody they can beat you up better than you.
26:31
Right, that's a really good saying because.
26:33
You have to live with yourself. Yeah.
26:36
And, and, and because I was really hard on myself as a young
26:39
man, I had high expectations and high standards and the world's
26:44
hard enough. And so if I'm, if I may say to
26:48
the audience is that whatever broken promise that you are
26:53
wrestling with, give yourself grace.
26:57
It's OK Use it as a tool. One of the chapters in my book
27:01
is the gifts are in the pain. And I know that's counter
27:03
intuitive. Yeah.
27:04
But success never for me. Success never brought me
27:08
anything but failure. And every single failure,
27:11
including the $3,000,000 and many more brought me nothing but
27:14
gifts. Yeah.
27:16
So if you don't, it's it's a bit like the best analogy I can
27:20
think of is as a child, you learn to walk, you fall over
27:24
more times before you can walk, right?
27:26
And that's the kind of same sort of thing.
27:28
Those failures actually have a lot of learning in them that you
27:33
you recognize, you take hold of them and you move on forward
27:36
with that new found learning and that new found experience.
27:40
As you know, Scott, this podcast is called Success Matters.
27:43
So as you've been on this journey, you know you hit a real
27:47
high with your 3,000,000 investment and and a real low
27:50
with the whole kind of being kicked out of your own company.
27:55
What does success mean to you now?
27:58
That's such an easy question for me and it's centered on my
28:00
family. If my wife I I what the things
28:05
that she has spy get incredible satisfaction out of supporting
28:08
my son and my daughter, my wife first.
28:11
That is my number one priority. My wife and I every morning
28:15
before, if I, if I'm here not traveling and we leave, we tell
28:19
each other we love each other. Every, every before we hang up
28:22
the phone, we tell each other we love each other.
28:24
I don't care if I'm going down the street to if I'm walking out
28:27
the door, I tell her I love her and vice versa.
28:30
In fact, that is, that is not a stage thing with us.
28:33
That is, that's who we are, is I love my wife and my family.
28:36
My, my kids still call me and my wife, mom and dad.
28:40
They still call for advice. They still, when they come home,
28:42
they love to sit down around the kitchen table and have dinner
28:44
and tell stories, right. So that, that's, that's success
28:49
to me is that I've, I'm getting it right with my family.
28:52
It really is. And anything that comes after
28:54
that is an absolute gift, right? My health that I can wake up
28:59
every morning and do what I do and, and work out and come meet
29:03
with you today and, and, and possibly help other people.
29:06
That's successful for me, right? Everything that I define my life
29:10
by right now is completely intangible, right?
29:14
You know, do I, I, I, I, I don't think I write about, no, I don't
29:17
write about this in the book, but I, I've written a story
29:19
about there were times in my life where it got so bad.
29:21
I thought, well, I guess God just wants me to dig ditches,
29:24
right, right. And then I came full circle in
29:29
that same statement said, yeah. And you know what, you may not
29:31
like it, but you'll be a great ditch digger and you're going to
29:34
be right, You know, and and there's a there's a story in
29:38
that it's I don't need a material possession.
29:39
I don't need a vacation. I don't need a trip.
29:41
I don't need a jet, a car. I don't need any of that crap,
29:44
right. To be in alignment.
29:46
That's what success means to me. But if I happened to fly on a
29:49
plane, that's wonderful. What a gift, great stewardship.
29:52
And that's a long answer, but I feel strongly about that.
29:56
No, it's, this is really great and it ties in actually because
29:59
I, I have a thing of asking a previous guest for question for
30:03
my next guest and my previous guest asked a very simple
30:07
question, what's matters. But I think we've got the answer
30:10
for from that right. Your family and your wife and
30:13
kids and stewardship matters to you.
30:16
Yeah, it it, it does. And, and I love the question of
30:20
what matters because I can't show you other than, you know, I
30:24
can't. I'm, I'm not going to be able to
30:25
say, oh, look at what I drive. Look at that BMW motorcycle I
30:29
like, I don't have any of that. And so, but if you were here, I
30:34
would say I'll show you, let me introduce you to my wife, my son
30:36
and my daughter. That'd be the first thing I
30:38
would do. That's what right?
30:39
Yeah. And, and as long as I'm getting
30:42
that right, I don't care what else happens in the world.
30:46
And so that's my focus and I'll log in that really that's what
30:51
matters to me. Talking of possessions as we
30:55
were, you have a a sword in the background there.
30:58
Tell us a bit more about what that sword is doing there and
31:02
how you came about it. So I went to a men's retreat in
31:07
Houston, near Houston, TX in the Piney woods of that area and it
31:12
was a three day retreat. And again, it was a men's
31:15
conference and at the end of the conference, you had a, a choice
31:19
of different things. And one of them was the sword.
31:22
And it was presented to you as a part of rite of passage, of
31:26
battling with yourself, if you will, you know, learning how to,
31:30
to be a better man, to be a better husband, to be a better
31:32
friend, to be a better follower of God, right?
31:35
And, and it was a, it was a very impactful 3 days.
31:37
And I keep that hanging over me or over my shoulder because the
31:44
the last chapter in my book, and I won't spoil it for everybody,
31:46
but I talk about the warrior, the poet and the shepherd that's
31:50
inside all three of us. And when those three are in
31:53
alignment, right, the the warrior defends and protects
31:57
right. The shepherd on the same, in the
32:01
same token protects the poet, right?
32:04
May make you cry when you see a sunrise, but when all three of
32:07
them in our alignment, that's a special place to be.
32:10
That's where Lovejoy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness,
32:13
all those things are in alignment.
32:15
And so that's where I got the sword from.
32:17
And I hang it there as a reminder to be a good steward
32:20
over all three of those things. Right.
32:22
OK. That's really cool.
32:24
That's that's really cool story. Do you have a question for my
32:27
next guest? I do have a question for the
32:30
next guest, and I'm going to say this as succinctly as I can.
32:34
I don't want it to be a long sentence because you have to
32:36
write it down and record it, right?
32:38
No, Is I'd like to know from your next guest, what's the one
32:48
thing, What's the one thing that they still wrestle with that
32:54
they need to change? That's one thing they still
32:57
wrestle with, that they need to change, OK, because I.
33:02
Think we're all working through something, right?
33:05
Yeah. Yeah, we want to do something
33:08
and, and I and, and I'm even wrestling right with the book
33:12
lot or, you know, the book launch, right?
33:15
And because we all want things to be successful, but we don't
33:18
control that, right? So we're all wrestling with
33:22
something. So be curious in, in, in all the
33:24
wonderful things your your next guest has done.
33:27
What's the one thing they're wrestling with right now that
33:29
they need to change? Yeah, that's, that's a very good
33:33
question. And we are all wrestling with
33:35
things and sometimes we don't even know it because it's a
33:37
subconscious thing that's within us that's holding us back from
33:41
maybe doing something or affecting the way in which
33:44
we're, you know, the outcomes that we're getting in life.
33:47
But we're not even recognizing that we're dealing with the the
33:50
symptom, not the cause sometimes, right.
33:52
So it's a really, really good question.
33:54
I'm interested to see what's what my next case says.
33:57
We're near the top of our time now.
33:59
Scott's. It's been a really, really
34:00
fascinating conversation. Where can people get hold of
34:04
your book and can you just remind us of the title of your
34:06
book? And also, if people want to
34:08
engage with you to find out more about the work you do, what's
34:10
the best way for them to do so? 1000% thank you very much for
34:14
the opportunity to share this with your audience and thank you
34:16
again for your platform. You do a beautiful job and I'm
34:18
glad. To be here.
34:19
Thank you. But you can reach me at my
34:21
website. It's my name, scottlackey.com.
34:25
And you can begin there, send me an e-mail on the, on the
34:28
website. You can purchase the book
34:30
through the website or click on the Amazon link.
34:32
It'll, it'll take you straight there.
34:34
And the name of the book is Wake Up to Die again.
34:36
And I know everybody's struggling with something.
34:39
And this will take you on a journey and you'll see yourself
34:41
in it. And I hope to see you on the
34:42
other side. Thank you for letting me do
34:44
this. Lovely.
34:45
Thank you Scott for sharing your your story on Success Matters I.
34:49
Hope our paths cross again. Absolutely, I'm sure they will.
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To find your success, contact me at info at
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successmatterscoachingcom. That's info at
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successmatterscoachingcom.