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Milan-Juventus game of the year in Serie A? Ep. 304 Ft. Martino Puccio · The Calcio Guys

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  Speaker 1: Game of the year more like snooze fest of the
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  Speaker 1: year in the Cetia between Milan and Juventus. This week
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  Speaker 1: again episode three oh four of the Culture Guys podcast,
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  Speaker 1: So thank you all.
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  Speaker 2: For tuning in.
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  Speaker 1: We have a recurring guest, the one the only, Martino
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  Speaker 1: Pucro from that mean podcast. Martino, I know it's been
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  Speaker 1: dooming goom with Milan, but how you doing below?
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing well, this ship well. Italy mits World Cup again.
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  Speaker 3: You guys get screwed because of that as we live
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  Speaker 3: north of the border, so listen, man, life is fine
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  Speaker 3: outside of that. It's just uh, you know, best days
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  Speaker 3: at Culchow were when we were twelve. What could you
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  Speaker 3: say at at that point? Not for Johnny obviously because
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  Speaker 3: of not Belie, maybe for Roma, but yeahous.
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  Speaker 1: Well, first off, thank you again for for taking the
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  Speaker 1: time Martino. It's always a pleasure and for everybody tuning in.
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  Speaker 1: all video content of the podcast. Uh So, yeah, Martino,
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  Speaker 1: we were talking a bit off air before coming in here, uh,
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  Speaker 1: the big match of the weekend and said, yeah, right
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  Speaker 1: Milan Juve, which is supposed to be you know, obviously
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  Speaker 1: a bigger match and have a bit more of implications
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  Speaker 1: towards it. Just again, I know how the season's gone,
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  Speaker 1: We've spoken before, we know how each other think of Milan.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, just your your your.
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  Speaker 1: Thoughts of you know, before the match and how the
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  Speaker 1: match panned out.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna break it down. So obviously a frustrating.
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  Speaker 1: Nil nil results as fast as we like to call it,
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  Speaker 1: But just your thoughts, anything to take out of the
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  Speaker 1: match that was somewhat positive or was it all dooming
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  Speaker 1: goom for you?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, when you're at this point in the
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  Speaker 3: season and you're basically only objected not basically literally the
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  Speaker 3: only objective's top four at this point, you don't really
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  Speaker 3: care too much about play style. I think that's kind
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  Speaker 3: of out of the window with a handful of matches
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  Speaker 3: left literally going into this. That was just with our form,
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  Speaker 3: with how you've have been playing, and I've seen a
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  Speaker 3: lot of I watch like every big teams matches, right
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  Speaker 3: like it's just what I what I enjoyed doing on
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  Speaker 3: a level. This Va is pretty good under spell at
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  Speaker 3: they're not They're not bad offensively, they move things. Milan
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  Speaker 3: caught a break with yield As being like, let's just
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  Speaker 3: call it what it is. Him him coming off the
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  Speaker 3: bench is huge. But I also could say for u A,
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  Speaker 3: they're fortunate we have a ligory right uh. In this fixture.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that Melan would be okay, just because every
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  Speaker 3: time they play the top side this season they step up,
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  Speaker 3: and that's largely because more of the top sides play
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  Speaker 3: a bit more modern, even though Seria it's not that
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  Speaker 3: they're able to absorb more. The only time that you
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  Speaker 3: kind of don't see that was the Awaynopoly match, and
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  Speaker 3: I thought, you know, Spiletti's juve is exposed at the back.
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  Speaker 3: We've seen them play terribly defensively. I thought, hey, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Milan on a counter, which they've done pretty well. Rafa
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  Speaker 3: looks a little bit healthier, but he's never going to
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  Speaker 3: be fully healthy. He's going to get a surgery. I
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  Speaker 3: thought it was fine. Bartizaki didn't make a run that
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  Speaker 3: Tayo Hernandez always does, and I think everyone kind of
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  Speaker 3: highlighted that, so we knew that, and he was just
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  Speaker 3: getting torched in general, right roller coaster of a twenty
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  Speaker 3: year old, nineteen year old kid in Sadiyah. Some really
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  Speaker 3: good moments, some really bad ones. It was that, and
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  Speaker 3: then obviously sela maker sitting the crossbar. Milan had their opportunities.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't as dull as the usual nil nills because
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  Speaker 3: it's been four of the past five SETIA matchups between
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  Speaker 3: these two or nil nill yes, because it's ridiculous and anyways,
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  Speaker 3: you've a like your your your boy Jonathan David Man,
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  Speaker 3: I kind of feel bad. It just this guy's like
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  Speaker 3: the lights are too bright for him in that sort
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  Speaker 3: of moment. He seemed weak too. I don't think obviously
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  Speaker 3: the level of physicality is showing between legal and what
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  Speaker 3: said he has in that moment. You got to be
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  Speaker 3: a lot stronger than that, or shoot sooner for me
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  Speaker 3: with you've it wasn't I wasn't ever really scared of them.
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  Speaker 3: I was really more scared of Milan doing their usual
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  Speaker 3: shooting themselves in the foot, and that's only primarily because
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  Speaker 3: yield is no. Yield is completely changes this, and I
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  Speaker 3: thought Melan's midfield was much better head to head. I
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  Speaker 3: think Localatelly in this one and final point before let
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  Speaker 3: you guys look as a local Telly was a pretty
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  Speaker 3: much of a brute force this game. I thought he
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  Speaker 3: was lucky he didn't get sent off. There were multiple
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  Speaker 3: That's fine if those fouls existed in two thousand and two,
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  Speaker 3: but it's twenty two. All of those our yellow car
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  Speaker 3: defenses today. I just want the consistency of it. We
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  Speaker 3: don't see that he ruins Modridge's face and the season
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  Speaker 3: for him. Uh and like you know, you've a like
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  Speaker 3: this is this is why there's such a funny club
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  Speaker 3: where they go and post like a video, like a
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  Speaker 3: hard video of like local Telly consoling Modridge for just
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  Speaker 3: ending his season for a shit challenge in the air.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, oh, thank you so much, we appreciate it,
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  Speaker 3: like like we didn't have objectives to make. We're so
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  Speaker 3: happy our former youth product like did this, but you
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  Speaker 3: know it is what it is better result for Melan
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  Speaker 3: than you may easily. I think I think this one
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  Speaker 3: might hurt Youuve potentially, but there's a huge matchup in
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  Speaker 3: favor for both of these clubs this weekend with colmo Anopoly.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that was my next thing to brought up and
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  Speaker 4: I guess I'll keep it as a smooth transition. Since
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  Speaker 4: we're talking about Madri, you know he needs to do
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  Speaker 4: facial reconstructions right until the end of the season, exactly
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  Speaker 4: coct with you guys trying to maintain that position in
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  Speaker 4: top four. How big of a blow do you think
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  Speaker 4: it is for the because he has been playing phenomenally,
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  Speaker 4: phenomenally for for Mela.
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  Speaker 3: Like, the funny thing is you asked that question about
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  Speaker 3: a forty year old and like, I can't give you
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  Speaker 3: an answer because it Driano will tell you this is
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  Speaker 3: that the guy started every game and he barely got subbed.
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  Speaker 3: And it's yeah, and it wasn't warranted to sub him,
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  Speaker 3: really so, and I'll agree on top of it, married
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  Speaker 3: to this three five to two, you're really limited to
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  Speaker 3: three midfielders the way he sees Ardniya Shadi. And it's
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  Speaker 3: not like I necessarily agree because that's not how he
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  Speaker 3: was deployed at Club Ruga. But he sees him as
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  Speaker 3: the sixth, as the regista behind him. And again, that's
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  Speaker 3: a forty million euro signing that's kind of not played much,
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  Speaker 3: that's gonna have to step up in place of him.
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  Speaker 3: He looked fine in the ten minutes, but very much
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  Speaker 3: like a lot of these substitutes, they don't get too
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  Speaker 3: much time to see what they fully are. Another start
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  Speaker 3: was the Lazio one, and we know, like Milan in general,
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  Speaker 3: that was one of the worst performances of the season,
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  Speaker 3: just like how everyone looked, so it's kind of hard
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  Speaker 3: to take away from that. And then the only other
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  Speaker 3: real match that we haven't said yeah is Leche where
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  Speaker 3: he was really good, but it's Leche, so uh. I
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  Speaker 3: would like to think ac Milan up six points in
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  Speaker 3: this race with high breakers can make top four and
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  Speaker 3: facing Sasuolo Genoa Attalanta, and then I believe Calieri on
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  Speaker 3: the final day, you know what I mean? Where Adreano
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  Speaker 3: will know this, like if you have that fear of PTSD,
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  Speaker 3: you're worried, but then you're like you slap yourself across
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  Speaker 3: the face and say, no worry ce Milan anything less
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  Speaker 3: than the top four. But a six point lead is unacceptable, yea.
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  Speaker 3: Even though the sad part is we probably wouldn't be
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  Speaker 3: that that surprised if something like that happened, right, just
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  Speaker 3: be incredibly disappointed, like we'll we surprised Italy missed the
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  Speaker 3: third straight World Cup. No, probably most peopeople weren't. But
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  Speaker 3: the feeling is still still there. That's simply so, bro,
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  Speaker 3: I don't I don't know. It's difficult to say, you
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  Speaker 3: we don't know enough about Yashadi in this setup with
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  Speaker 3: these players with his limited time off the injury, like
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  Speaker 3: can you replace Modri because Modridge was legitimately one of
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  Speaker 3: the best and said, yeah, it wasn't this like always
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  Speaker 3: playing well for Melan as opposed to like some other
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  Speaker 3: players like to me, it's just like it's a larger
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  Speaker 3: conversation to be had about the club. But I won't
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  Speaker 3: get into that just yet. They should be fine, man, But.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, listen, I think you you you touched upon
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  Speaker 1: it now and I obviously saw you know what you
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  Speaker 1: guys posted on your end about yah Shari, Like it's
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  Speaker 1: a shame that it has to come down to the
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  Speaker 1: last four matches and for you know, a four year
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  Speaker 1: old motage to get hurt, for him to get some
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  Speaker 1: point in time.
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  Speaker 2: It just seems to be that what it is.
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  Speaker 1: And I agree with Stubborn, this, I think is is
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  Speaker 1: what really you know, hinders a lot of these players.
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  Speaker 2: I do find what like yes, Shady, I would I would.
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  Speaker 1: Hope can produce h in these last four games, just
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  Speaker 1: to go off on a on a good foot and
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  Speaker 1: start fresh next year. The thing that kind of it's
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  Speaker 1: like for me that sucks is the motherage injury out
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  Speaker 1: for the season. And then there's the thoughts and everybody's
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  Speaker 1: everybody's thinking, is that the last of Luka Modica Milan?
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  Speaker 1: Is that the last action that we're going to see
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  Speaker 1: of forty year old class player of moldig stature in
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  Speaker 1: a melon shirt? And you know, it's a it's a
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  Speaker 1: real it's a real thought, it's a real it's a
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  Speaker 1: real thing. So Martinez want to ask you, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: is that the end of Modica Melan? Because if you read,
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  Speaker 1: if you read into what the reports are and you
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  Speaker 1: see kind of what is you know, circling around the media,
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  Speaker 1: you know he wants a competitive melon. I think like
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  Speaker 1: most mean fans do, right and and all the checklist
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  Speaker 1: of things, is it is it realistic to see me
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  Speaker 1: Modig and the melan shirt next season?
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  Speaker 3: Again? I think it's realistic. Yeah, A certainty would be different, right,
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  Speaker 3: But it's really just I guess his sentiments. He mentioned
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  Speaker 3: it when he signed that he thinks he could still
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  Speaker 3: play a couple more years. It's just on how he feels.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he's playing great. He didn't he had like
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  Speaker 3: moments where he's like a little bit out of form.
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  Speaker 3: But you know this, it wasn't like a massive drop
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  Speaker 3: off at any point. Like what I was saying in
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  Speaker 3: the clip in the most recent episode was that you
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  Speaker 3: know he could still come back and make an impact.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying start every single SETIA match for next year,
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  Speaker 3: but he's clearly capable of playing in multiple And then
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  Speaker 3: to your point, which I also was making on the pod,
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  Speaker 3: was that these four games is a lot to learn
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  Speaker 3: about a player with something on the line. With your shady,
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  Speaker 3: you at least have to get a sense within those
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  Speaker 3: four matches. Maybe he does or doesn't start all four,
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  Speaker 3: but there's going to be enough opportunity for him to
• 10:45
  Speaker 3: prove that like, Okay, you come back in. We're actually
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: fine about that regista spot because like, if you really
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: think about it, this is like a doomsday scenario which
• 10:54
  Speaker 3: a lot of melan Fins could probably go to. Is
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: that say your Shoddy is not good, Like he's bad,
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  Speaker 3: like really bad and like unplayable to your other registas.
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  Speaker 3: Forty then even if he does come back and then
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  Speaker 3: he just flopped again on a forty million euro of signing,
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  Speaker 3: what do you do? So I think it's actually a
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  Speaker 3: lot more crucial in that regard. I don't think they're
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: gonna dump you a shoty in any degree. But when
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: you have this situation that me Lund's in with the
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: squad itself, which is part of why I think a
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: legree leaves you like little footnotes or easter eggs in
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  Speaker 3: his press conferences of how like he technically doesn't want
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: to do the three, five to two, but he feels
• 11:33
  Speaker 3: like he has to because that is the best best
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  Speaker 3: avenue to get points. And playing a four to three
• 11:41
  Speaker 3: three as we saw over however many games you don't
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: have fullbacks, you don't have the center backs for it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the midfield can only do so much. We
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: had our worst defense last year. He's just sort of like,
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  Speaker 3: to get top four and what you want, and this
• 11:57
  Speaker 3: is management's fault. We're gonna have to do this. And
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: now it's also forcing, in my opinion, to put your
• 12:03
  Speaker 3: shoddy out of position because it's not naturally this It
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: puts like someone like Richie who didn't even play that
• 12:10
  Speaker 3: much for twenty five million as well, Like, right, we're
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: talking near seventy million for two players who didn't get
• 12:18
  Speaker 3: that many minutes in Seria for aside once a season.
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  Speaker 3: It's just that's the kind of stuff that you're like,
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  Speaker 3: how many other clubs are doing that or can afford
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  Speaker 3: to do that? It's this is why I just hate
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: everything about what they're doing for the most part. So
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: it's like you worry about Modridge staying and the question
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  Speaker 3: comes back to are they even competent enough? Like what
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: are we fielding next year that I feel good about
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  Speaker 3: myself turning forty one, that we have an opportunity to
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  Speaker 3: win something. We fell short pretty much everywhere. Far Cope
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  Speaker 3: Italia was a disgrace. Super Cope has won and done
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  Speaker 3: or whatever. It doesn't matter, right, and then ten plus
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  Speaker 3: points off the top yet again for the fourth straight year.
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  Speaker 3: Actually it might be depending on how it finishes out,
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  Speaker 3: they might be fifteen plus points off the top for
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: the fourth or fifth straight year. How is that ever
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  Speaker 3: respectable in any regard? It isn't, And I'm sorry I'm
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  Speaker 3: ranting about it, but it's just it's so effing dumb
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  Speaker 3: that I have to be put in a situation or
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  Speaker 3: I have to ask that question. It should be a
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  Speaker 3: no brainer that moldrics just staying. But the fact that
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  Speaker 3: they continue to do this, and the people I talk
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  Speaker 3: to that have like context, that I have contexts at
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  Speaker 3: the club, they're telling me like not again, not everyone
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  Speaker 3: is on the same page is a big issue that
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: continues to happen. It's a revolving door of not only
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: players but people in management that's unsustainable, like you can't,
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: you cannot do that. So and you see it reflected
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: in the moment, like shouldn't this have been done if
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: both parties just the final thing, if both parties loved
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: each other so much, were so deep into this nearly
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: on May first they both haven't come to an agreement
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  Speaker 3: that he's definitely playing next year. What does that tell you?
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  Speaker 3: What does that tell you? There are legitimate question marks
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: from the player. So if the player is having that
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  Speaker 3: many question marks for one more season, that shows a
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: disconnect and dysfunction in my opinion, look at the actions
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: because there's a lack of them, So that kind of
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: tells you a lot of things, especially with and again,
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: just final point, but because this shit matters, is that
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: there is technically full ownership. Now with Redbird, there's like
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: complete control. There's no like Elliott looming in the background
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  Speaker 3: that a lot of people theorize have been handcuffing card
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  Speaker 3: denial to an extent. I don't give them that excuse,
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: but that's what that's what. You know. People are like, well,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he wanted to do this, but then the
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: board and Elliott said that, and I was like, all right, yeah,
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: saying you refinance the loan again, so like it just
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: or changed the loan to a different But that's kind
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: of the whole thing. So uh in a long way,
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  Speaker 3: maybe he.
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  Speaker 2: Says, let's the whole fingers crossed.
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  Speaker 4: Well, like another thing that you brought up, which I
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: was gonna get to eventually, is the formation. You know,
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: it hasn't been you know, they probably had like a
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: decent start, it hasn't been too fruitful for Leal and
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: pollusicch Like, I feel like they're suffering because of the
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: formation that they're in.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think that.
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  Speaker 4: This is probably leading towards the scenario where I know
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  Speaker 4: Leo's got like what like was it fifty seventy five
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: million release call.
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: The release cause?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so obviously no I don't think a team's ever
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: gonna come close to that for him, and it's hurting
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: his stock is there, and obviously it's creating a bit
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  Speaker 4: of Yeah, I don't want to I don't want to
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  Speaker 4: say that it is creating tension, but you could feel
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: that maybe there probably is a little bit of, you know,
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  Speaker 4: this ray between them.
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  Speaker 5: Do you think Leo kind of.
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  Speaker 4: Forces Melans had at some point in the next season
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  Speaker 4: or two, or do you think, like you know, Leo
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: still keeps to put up with like those.
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  Speaker 3: The only way this guy wants out is if he
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: pushes it. Otherwise it's the owners who are going to
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: push him out. There's not this guy at this point,
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: he could have left, could have been done right like now. Again,
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: it's like multiple times there's like the allegory factor and
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: people are theorizing things. I don't think that they're going
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: to get rid of him. I don't think it makes sense.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: The reports of forty million are also bullshit. What could
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: happen and what is definitely possible, however, is another Tonale
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: situation where they did not expect to get an offer
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: like that of Tonali from Newcastle, and when Tonali gets
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: wind of like they want to. They are willing to
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: accept that he's going to open up and be like,
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: all right, fine, you want to be like that, I'll leave.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: That's what happens, right, you get rid of Maldini. I
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: don't care. There's people who are pushing them out for
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: certain reasons. If Rafa, like, they're only going to be
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: like presenting it to him. If a club like Manchester United,
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: in my opinion, this is the only place I think
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: he would go. Barcelona, there's no chance that they could
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: afford it. I think so for Rafa would be like
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: north of seventy or eighty million, with like the two
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: years remaining on his contract, and to them that that
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: would suffice, my guess. But they would have to be
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: blown away from it, don't. I don't think that's going
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: to happen. I don't think they will offer that. I
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: don't think man United should offer that anyways. I think
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Leo is more of a final piece for a really
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: good club instead of just the guy for the revolution
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: at this point in his scriper. I just don't think
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: he can, especially not on the PREMI it doesn't work
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: hard enough off the ball, I don't I just don't
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: see it. Happen personally, but you know everything is on
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: the table with this management. I just don't I don't
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: think he'll push out just because of these tactics. I
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: think what a leg is saying, and I don't know
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: if you want me to expand on it, is that
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: like he needs the players to play another system. If
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: he's going to do that, he's not to change things
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: when you're still giving him the same tools. And you
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: see a four to three three or four to two
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: three one last year and you're conceding more goals than
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: anybody bringing back the same players. It doesn't matter. You
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: need to get the proper players right because say in
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: a four to three three perfect world, right, say it
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: is Santy as your striker, or even in kunku, the
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: best for your attack, the best formation for your attack,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: it's indisputable. It's a three man attack with the two
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: wingers you have. No one's arguing that. However, how much
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: does the rest of the eleven suffer? And it's pretty
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: substantial because I think all the center backs that we
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: have are not really good in a back for I
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: think the players that they have to compliment them are
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: not great. Pavlovich is only really good in a back three.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: We saw how much he struggles in a back four.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: They don't have full backs guys, they just don't like there.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: I like Bartizagi Kid might have some potential. He's still
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: really young. I'm not going into next season, so seeing
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: the inconsistencies that he had, being like, oh yeah back
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: for Stupaon sucks solid makers is not a right back.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: I like Afa Kam going forward, he is still not
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: somebody who could defend or works harden off off the
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: ball or wins enough balls to justify him being the
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: main guy. And then again he also just wouldn't have
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: a backup. So you're talking about technically two to three
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: fullbacks and you're only going to keep one or sell one. Sorry,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: this is like the squad issue. So then you're kind
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: of left to be like, okay, wing back, all these
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: guys can kind of play those positions. That's what we
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: have to rock with. I think. I also think like
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: back for like Cony de Winter's like okay, but you're
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: not gonna have like Cony de Winter and Gambia like
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: what are you winning with that? What are you doing
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: with that? That's you know what I mean? And then
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: your midfield three is like it's a good midfield, but
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: you know it's a forty year old Rabio is awesome,
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: and then Fofana like he's good in ten to fifteen
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: minute patches maybe, and then he's like his brain shuts
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: off sometimes, and then the depth is like he doesn't
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: sub anyone on. So it's like this is this is
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: just like a bad, badly constructed team. And I don't
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: think that if they show signs of willing to go
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: in that direction of what taday and what a leg
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: do you want, just don't be surprised if you see
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: anyone leave. It's just my point is that there's not
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: this sense of being on the same page, right. And
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: I know this might be ranting a little bit, but
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: here's the thing. In Adriana, you would know this if
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: you're a red bird and they came in and they
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: told us straight up to all these fans, Okay, we
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: saw where this Maldini project was going. It was great,
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: but it's unsustainable with the way he does business in
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: the transfer market, right because he lets players leave for free.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: We can't inject capital all the time. We have to
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: sell players to buy, and it's HAYSI Molan. That's not
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: really acceptable. But at least I'm being transparent with you, right,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: so you know I'm not lying, which is something Red
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Bird have done. They then go and unceremoniously sack all
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: these people that helped them out, and then they don't
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: have directors. So to run the club the modern way, right,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: they want to do algorithms or just like funny, I
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: know Johnny knows this. Like people just don't like they overcomplicated.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: They think it's like they bring up the Mourinho stats
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: quote and it's just like, no, that's not what it means.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: It's just in a way to explain your eye tests.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: But forget it. You say, we do what Atalanta do.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: We have a clear cut project. We want to build
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: from the ground up, but we can only do that
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: if we may top four, which means we have to compete,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: and to compete we have to spend money. But we
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: want to do that. We don't want to do that.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Let's bring it a legree because we weren't good at
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: picking and finding a manager to help and develop players
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: over the course of time. Right, if you hire a legray,
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: technically you hire him to win something. Do we think
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: he's capable of still doing that. No, not necessarily with
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: his antiquated styles, but technically that hire is to win something.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: If you hire a Palladino, you know what you're getting.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: This is a project. You were trying to build something.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: So when Redbird is going in the transfer market and
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: buying players for a Paladino type project and giving it
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: to a Legray, it's gonna backfire because he doesn't want
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: those players because it's no guarantee. You never played here,
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: you don't speak the language, you don't really have much
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: professional experience. Adrian, how many times have we seen David
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: o'dogu nearly ten million euro right at a comment? Back up,
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: preaching back all these guys, they don't make sense tactically,
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: they don't make sense. Christopher and Kunku. He's a number
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: ten if anything, or a second striker. Where are we
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: playing him? I don't know. The manager literally says, I
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: don't know. I have to figure it out. So that
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: to me again, actions comments that we listen and hear
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: from these people, we say to ourselves, Okay, that doesn't
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: sound like a club that's on the same page from everywhere,
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: And I can tell you once again that it doesn't
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: matter if you agree with a legacy today for Lani
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: in this scenario, right, that's besides the point. I know
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: for a fact from people I talk to, they're not
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: all on the same page. And my problem is, once again,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: what are we doing here? You weren't on the same
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: page with Maldini, so you fire him, but then you're
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: not on the same page as Pala fanseeka sal What
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: do they all say? These people all say the same
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: things when they leave, and once the one common denominator, okay,
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: I say it every week. We have to we have
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: to see the problem at this point. And he's likely
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: getting an extension what I understand, and he's not leaving anywhere.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: That's the problem is that you had a finance guy
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: take over a club with no experience in this. He
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: negotiated a couple of deals with Elliott when he was
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: on the board for them with the club when Redbird
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: kind of took over, like Elliott was still in charge. Right,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: that's the extent of that, Drenna. You know this. We
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: did not have a director they year. We promoted a
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: scout from within. That's around our age. Yes, you know,
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: whatever we could say young overall that's not very experienced
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: in the executive scout world. You're in your thirties being
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: a director at a major club like that, you better
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: be the genius everyone proclaims you to be. Moncata is
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: not that he's a better scout. Right, there's a difference
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: between you know, I'm bringing you a list of movies,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: and then Johnny curates and picks the movies, like right,
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: if I were to pick the movie, like he presented
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: the players to Maldini, he said, Okay, I think this
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: guy's good. This guy's good, this guy's good, this guy's good.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Maldinia Masada would pick and talk to each other like, okay,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: this guy would be perfect for the squad. Right, That's
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: why guys like Rode Krunich were so good, because he
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: knew he could fit them in a specific position or
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: roll within the team. That makes sense. They go and
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: buy Christopher and Kunku for near record money and they
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: don't know what to do with him, and they're supposed
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: to be smart financial people. No, you're not, like you're
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: in that that's financially moronic. With your holes that you
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: have and the formation that you knew the manager was running,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: and you said oh, let me go get a ferrari
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: when my house is on fire. You're what are we
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: doing here? It's just stupidity. I'm ranting, but this is like,
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: there is no simple answer to Johnny's question because it
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: goes back to all of those things. And that's the
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: problem and why I'm tired of like watching every Sunday
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: because it's like he could stub on whoever, whoever could
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: play whatever. I know who's still in charge when the
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: game ends, And I don't think that changes my thoughts
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: on the direction, because how could it?
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, because it feels like it's a bunch of like
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: like square pieces trying to fit into a round hole.
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: You know, It's like you could just like shove it
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: in there and get some results, but which and look,
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: give given what he's trying to do. I mean, it
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: does suck that you obviously want to compete for the
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: schoolat though, but third place is still it's my dut city.
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: I know we have our qualms about it and stuff,
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: but I'm curious because, like you did mention that why
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: not go for that lethal front three?
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: Because like we all know how the OUTCN excel on
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: the left side. Pultich is a really good one er too,
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: like like why like besides, okay, I guess because you
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: don't want you don't like the full backs but like
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: I'm stupid, probably.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: But well they well they got exposed when they did
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: it as I smacked them three nail. But he was
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: also doing it wrong again. He put lay out as
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: striker and started telemakers and Polisic wide the strike. The
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: forwards have been injured to get rap on Polisic and
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: not being healthy, that's part of it. The strikers have
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: one goal combined, Like I just nobody should ever be
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: glossing over that statistic, Bracy Malan. The strikers, the actual
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: strikers for this club have one goal in the league. Yeah, okay, no,
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: get bro, No, no, no, no, that's never accept in any year.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: I don't care.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: I agree, Like twenty fifteen, that's not acceptable. If twenty
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: twenty six, how how could how does that happen? How
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: do you get into a point where that's like even
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: a statistic that you read off. There's every week the
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: list gets longer of the amount of days in between
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: the goals sports per player and the attack. Yeah, it's
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: it's dysfunctional. There's players at a position, there's players.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: Player, what is it like like between like like.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: A like a like a polistic for example, as in
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: scort since December twenty eighth.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: That's oh okay, that's the touch from one different player
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: is scoring from another one.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: That's what I caught you calendar to day is Santi
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Menez is almost on a full calendar year.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, full Kruger.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Full Kruger has one goal. That's the guy that they
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: get in January that's alone with option. And again, to
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: bring up to the point of some people that I
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: did on the podcast and why I think Santi Menez
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: is gone, is that you have your thirty plus million
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: euro signing Mexican twenty five five year old versus your
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: German thirty three year old who's a flop at west
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Ham and is also definitely leaving in June. You have
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: a substitute to make when you're playing counter attacking football
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: against Juventus and you sub on the slow German. What
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: does that say about sports here? Right? What does that
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: say when the coach picks somebody else in that moment
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: either coach is an idiot or the coach doesn't like
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: you or think you're good so okay, you figure it
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: out yourself, like that's that's how low they think of
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: the striker. In Sandi, Tadda is literally saying, we might
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: sell him to Roma. We don't know yet, we might
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: swap with Dobiek. Before they kicked off against Leche and
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: again he was starting, the director is saying that what
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: little faith he have? Right, It's they don't. It's which
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: is also another problem because you're killing confidence even if
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: he even if you don't think he's good, it doesn't help.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: It's only going to compound the issues. It's but this
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: is the stupidity I'm talking.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: And what good does it do the player anyways?
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Like to hear that after after the fact, it's like
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: great management doesn't have any faith in me.
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: So it's like.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: You're you're the teacher, right. Negative reinforcement does not work,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: no matter how many like stupid sports movies you see, No,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: it does not work. Mentally, berating people does not help.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: So not that they're berating the guy.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: But it all it does is that it creates resentment
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: and it creates like, like the only good case scenario
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: from that is the player might start excelling so that
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: they can get themselves the fuck out of there. You
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: know what I'm trying to say, They're not going to
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: be excelling for you anymore. They're gonna be excelling for
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: themselves just to get themselves out of there and then
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: just you know, thank you Childby I'm out of here,
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go bring my success elsewhere.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: And these are people who want to be here too.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: That's the other thing.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: This guy.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: No I know, but he's even a fan though, Johnny,
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Like that's the thing, Like it's just good or bad.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: It's it's the environment. It's there's nothing that, in my opinion,
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: that you feel good. They're not. Nothing would be a
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: bit much, but there's very little to feel good about
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: moving forward because I don't care, like in the short term,
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: oh cool, Like the thing that I hate Adreano you
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: I know you hate it because we just talked about it.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Or a top four mandate is loser shit, it's loser shit.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Don't get me saying I don't care, like if you
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: end up coming in second or third, I don't want
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: to hear you say. What your goal is. Everyone's goal,
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: even the New York Mets goal every year is to
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: win the World Series. Saying let's win the wild card, right, Yeah,
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: they go in trying to win something. If melean are
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: going in there with that type of mentality, and I
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: cannot things stand the people that say, oh, well, you
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: know they were eighth last year, we should be happy
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: about this, know the f you shouldn't know. You shouldn't
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: because you want to know why they shouldn't be an
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: eighth place to begin with, because they were in first
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: before that and they won. They were also in a
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Champions League semi final. They were progressing in that, they
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: were qualifying every single year. Until you started doing things differently.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: You started doing things differently, everything got worse, literally everything
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: across the board, and then you want to be accepting
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: of that. This is how you get gas lit by ownership.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: This is an abuse of relationship. Don't feel good about
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: making top four, You shouldn't. That should be a standard.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Juve fans should feel the same, inter fans and Melan fans,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: and it could fluctuate with the other clubs, but there
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: should never be this scenario in which you're being oh, well,
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: you know, we came such a long way from last year,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: then why were we there to begin with? Why don't
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: you talk about the year prior when you were second
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: and then you went to eighth. That's a huge problem.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: That's a negative. I'm not going to feel happy about
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: getting back to the place that I was already at.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: I shouldn't because why did we leave? That's the problem
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: to get to that point last year, which is easily
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: the most embarrassing of my fandom by far, and they
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: were because I've said this. I think we probably talked
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: about it last year. If I know you're gonna suck,
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: that's fine. I could live with it, like I know
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: what the reality is. They should never suck, and not
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: when they arrogantly fire people that were good. That's that's
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: where I really get annoyed. Twenty fifteen sixteen milion. They
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: suck like there was nothing we could do, like it
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: was over, like it was done. This shouldn't. You can't
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: be boasting about record revenues and missing Europe. Sorry that
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: I don't want to hear it. We've been sitting waiting
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: patiently for fifteen years. UA fans got their turn, and
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: I know, like you said this to an O believe
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Roma fan, but I get it, like it's true, but
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: it's different standards, Like I don't get angry like at
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: the Jets, like I know they're the Jets, like they're losers,
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Like what, I can't do anything. This shouldn't be this shit.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: I'm sick of it. It's fifteen years. How many years
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: do we have to see? Oh, well, they haven't had
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: a fifteen goal scorer in the league fifty Yeah, I
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: know it's bad. Twenty So you know when the last
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: time we had a twenty goal scorer in the league, Androno,
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: you know, do you know the year and the player?
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Fuck, I'll stop.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: You even have to think, by the way, it's how
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: bad it is. But you got me.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: I don't even know people right, no.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: No, no, it's locked on twenty eight goals in twenty eleven.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Twenty twenty eleven, of course, of course, yes.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: That one was like incredible.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: And then yes, I'm sorry.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: You know that's the last time and and we say, oh,
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: twenty twelve, fourteen years easily going to be fifteen.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then take it in and a half.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: I have to go back and check the stats, which
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: a lot of people don't like. I can't remember that
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: long of an absence of a twenty goal scorer in
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: the league for me probably when like everyone could scored
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: two goals in a year or something.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: But it's yeah, yeah, I know, it's unacceptable. It's it's unacceptable.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: And another point that you kind of I know you
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: kind of went a little bit of a tangent there,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: but you.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Know, no, no, no, for sure, like we we we love it,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: but you know we we we spoke about Leal.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: I think it's only right to speak about the other,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: the other, the other forward in polists because I feel listen,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: do they have their inconsistencies?
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Sure do.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: I feel for them because they're put in the wrong
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: position and everybody expects them to produce and they don't.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I do a bit, I'll be honest, But it's been
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: it's been, you know since what December, Like you said,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Martino six has been atrocious for your boy, Christian Polistic right.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: To the American.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: And this is a player I like and I and
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: I want to do well. It just hasn't hasn't gone
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: his way again, does that go to the formation? Does
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: that both to the girlfriend thing off the pitch.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Like.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: Listen, I don't want to hear the girlfriend thing when
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: you know, I know it's out there, like like yeah,
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: I feel bad for him if he's going through that,
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: like like we're human, right, like we're sure it's to
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: get exposed like that, and then the access to apologize publicly. Yeah,
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: like kind of alleging that he did something when he
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: didn't is you know, fucked up? Excuse me? Uh no
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: pun intended there, So like for that, it's just I
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: don't care. Formationally, Yeah, they both suffer. I make the
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: same excuse for Lao and him because the reality is
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: it's true. It is not there like like this is
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: in FIFA. Sorry, the injury thing. The guy's been healthy,
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: he's been playing. And there's something that Santangelo and I
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: always try to say is if you're out there, you're healthy,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: you're wearing the colors, you get judged you're healthy enough
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: and good enough to play. We have to judge you
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: based off of what we see. Sure are their nuances?
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Do it your position and that you're in, how you're
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: being fielded like the players around you. Yes, all matters.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: All that stuff matters. We saw him get an assist
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: when he was put out wide. I think it was
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: a to Reno match, right. He ends up doing better,
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: like clearly moving better. One that he just doesn't like Marco.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: We had me Marco on another good Canadian friend. He
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: was just like why not a three four three something
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: like Kinker with something, but the guy just refuses to sacrifice.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: I get it, I get it, but like it's at
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: some point you got to get results, like I am
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: like I again I post about like you know Camarda
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: having goals like dude, like Jay Adams gets goals all
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: the time for for to Reno, like uh, simone, same thing.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Like I see players like all these other clubs and stuff,
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: like they get goals, but like nobody is scoring. Adrian
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: rob Yo still has the most goal contributions I think
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six for a Milan player. Okay, it's
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: a good and bad thing. It's great. Robbio is a
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: great signing. Holy shit, man, Rabbio is our leading gold
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: contributor for twenty twenty six. Shout out to AJ by
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: the way. But like it's bro like you're you're just
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: it's just bad. There's no fluidity to it. And the
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: counter attacking side of things also don't look good when
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: it's like the two of them Christian Christian can't ball
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: carry that far. I I don't think he can. I
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: think he's like within like the offensive half, probably right,
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: but Leo is like a different monster. The same goes
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: for Tao, like where they can go on these runs,
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: but Lisk is a smaller guy by stature, so he's
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: more of a technical player. You put a player like
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: that out of position, off field issues, injuries, I mean,
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: it's a recipe for disaster, and there is, like you
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: guys know it to an extent. There's a massive amount
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: of pressure on this guy to perform in the World
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Cup this summer. So there are very few players in
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: that tournament, whether like it's not about a quality thing,
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: it's it's really just like a pressure side of things, right,
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Like I'm sure there's l three players that have a
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: lot of pressure. I don't think there's much pressure for
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Canadian player. There's going to be pressure, but I don't
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's like as much disdain between the
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Canadian soccer fans and the players as there is with
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: the US soccer fans and the US players, because there
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: is just an entire social disconnect in the country itself.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: So who he likes and who he dances after when
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: he scores his goals, that kind of shit matters, right,
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: because that alienates a large large portion of the fans.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: And when you do that, your margin for error becomes smaller.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: And when that happens, the pressure magnifies and grows. And
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: I think that when Polisic is, you know, in this
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: moment that he's in in his career, maybe it's one
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: goal that turns it around. Maybe it's just like the
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: beginning of the end of like what his prime is,
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but this right now is a very
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: delicate headspace. And a leg is saying the same thing.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: He's like, he's a very emotional guy. He's harsh on
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: himself because what happened at the start of the year.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Incredible conversion rate, he was a fifty percent conversion rate,
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: completely unsustainable, you can't score every other shot. Then he
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: got some bad misses which cost us multiple games Fiorentina
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: penalty miss against Juve Exactly. It's just like when I
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: see polistic play. I'm not sure if you guys see
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: or think this too. There's just like this not this,
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Like there's there's guys who are leaders and that's okay,
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: and then there's guys who are not. I think he's
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: one of those really good players. That's not a leader,
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: and that's kind of his downfall because with the US
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: it's McKenny. I would say he's politic is clearly like
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: the best player, like it's it's not even close, like
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: it's it's total respect to some of the other guys
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: that play in Europe and do a good I think
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: McKenny is super underrated. But bro, like we know this,
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: like Alfonso Davies, like come on, like that guy is
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: like here, yeah, and everyone else is beneath him. The
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: way I view Polistic is he's still up here and
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: a lot of guys underneath, and then if they don't
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: play well enough, like it just it just matters. There's
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: like a climate thing. And I think in the back
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: of his head, with how emotional a guy he is,
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: it's weighing on him because it's just, uh, that ain't
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: the same guy. He doesn't. He doesn't look as that.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: You know. Maybe it was the beard too, like yeah,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: people people grow a beard and you're like, okay, you
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: look kind of good, but like are you okay? Yeah yeah,
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: one of those beards where like Christian it's a pretty
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: good look, but like brother, why.
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: Like a depressured beard so yeah.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: But he looks pretty good with the beard. He should
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: keep it. But uh man, it's just it's they can't
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: go into next season doing the same formation they do that.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: It's so like, honestly, like it will blow up because
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: all the good players that are there are gonna wort
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: And that's just the reality of it. So I am
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: worried to that degree. But uh, maybe he gets the
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: goal or something. I don't I don't know, bro like
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: he needs it. I think if they get a penalty,
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: last thing, I think it goes to him. If he starts,
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: I think they do that just to get him on
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: the right foot. So we'll see for this weekend.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, like in a case of being a leader,
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: like you know, like sometimes you don't have to be
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: the vocal guy. You can be the leader that leads
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: by actions and you can have somebody else be the face.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: And you know, all the guys behind you led differently, Yeah,
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: pretty much.
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: Some led by their actions, some led with on the microphone, some.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean. Like it's we saw peerle
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: We grew up seeing Pierre Leo and Gutuso, and I
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: make this comparison all the time. I'm like, you tell
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: me the personalities, you tell me the actions. Are they
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: both leaders? You come to the answer yes, and you're like, oh,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: so they're similar.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Couldn't be more.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Those guys are similar, right, So that's just like for me,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: like Christian is like a camaraderie kind of guy, you know,
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Like it's just like I'm I'm here to support, but
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: I'm not the guy to like pick us up by
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: the straps and say enough of this bullshit, like let's
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: That's why I love Cortuso so much. Like I I
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: like that because if I again, I'm a nobody. I
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: never played at any like high level, but like I'm
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: still like the kind of person where I have to
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: be like, yo, enough of this ship. Let's go, like
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: this is terrible energy whatever you want to like call
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: it with because Milan coming out flat often like I
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: was the same type of personality. I would say too,
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: They're not They're not really those raw in your face guys.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: The best leader is like Manon and that's also a
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: communication issue within this team on the pitch, Simon Kierra,
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: I bring this up all the time, was like the
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: last like true vocal leader in that back line. Goby
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: I respect so much, but like he's it's not that
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: he's not that thing like that. I think, Uh, how
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: do I put it? Mateo Gabia is like the the
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: guy you let marry your daughter, like like just like nice,
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: He'll come by, bring flowers for the kid, every good kid,
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: like a good kid. But it's not like anyone goes
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: in there fearing for their lives going up against the guy,
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: which is you know, just the reality of like the
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: makeup of this team. So what are you gonna do?
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, it's it's it's not definitely not one thing
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: with this, with this, with this mew and side right
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: that we know that realistically, Martine, Like with all that
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: we've said and all that we've discussed, and everybody that
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: puts all content for me on or or other otherwise
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: has probably said, you know, do you realistically see or
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: what do you potentially see next season changing?
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: What? Like what I think?
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: It's it's it's bothers because I feel like us across
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: the pond, Martino, we.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Have it in our head like we kind of know
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: how it should be.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: You know what we listen, I listened to you guys,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: you know I you know we've said it here on
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: our show.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: I've listened to.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Our boys steviean Vinie on me and weekly podcast, like
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: we scream it from across the pond. Yet over there
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: in the Motherland, it's like it's just not it's just
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: not going through. But what will change? What needs to
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: be changed? What what do you see changing next season?
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: For me?
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: On if if this is gonna, you know, be a
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: project that is a serious one and that can really
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: take us to like Mothers said, to compete on all
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: three fronts.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: I don't. It's not a clear answer. Unfortunately, I don't
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: have that because I could sit here and say they're
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: gonna finally listen after their disastrous season, give a leg
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: green money, give tare money from the player sales, and
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: let them do their own things. If they think that
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: a player is worth a certain amount of money and
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: they want I go for it, and it's deemed too
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: lucrative for for Lani, for Lani needs to concede to
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: them and to be like, okay, let's take a risk.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Right If that friction continues, people are leaving. I'm gonna
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: tell you right now, they're gonna leave because they're sold
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: something that isn't true. And these are well established people
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: that aren't gonna take this bullshit. They're not yes man
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: alleged He's not a yes man. Toaday's not a yes man.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: I know for a fact there's disconnect on pretty much
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: all levels. And if that continues, we've seen in the
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: past managers or figureheads going up against the guy in
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: the suit, and the guy in the suit is gonna
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: win every time because he's boss at the end of
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: the day. However, and I say this because I make
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: a very important distinction, Jerry can go away and do
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: whatever he wants for a couple of years now if
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: he wants to be more active and he sees up
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: front where his money has been going and how it's
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: been spent. Sure on the paper, right, Andreano, all me
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: leander in the green again? They did a good job. No,
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: you're in the green because you sold the SETI on
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Midfielder of the Season. Yeah, that is misleading, is the
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: best way I could put it, because in the green
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: in theory should mean you're making so much money, you
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: have tons of success, and you don't need to sacrifice
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: in order to make money. If you need a sacrifice,
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: an asset so great that doesn't mean you're in good shape.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: That just means you had something of value and it
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: kept you afloat. That's essentially what happened. This isn't about
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: you know, Meanli I make great business and like, no,
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: you finished, Dave, the player didn't want to stay. You
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: weren't staying in Europe. You weren't playing in Europe. Excuse me?
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: So he wanted to lead and so now you had
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: his cell. So like what Jerry looks at there? Right?
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: The wage bill not increasing, The deals are so bad
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: that they have to buy and sell players so quickly,
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: right like Marata, how quickly they had to get rid
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: of him, right? Andreno six months? He Ma is going
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: like six months like in Kunku there was rumors of
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: him leaving in January before this, So like why, like
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: I can I give you an answer where they'll be
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: in three months? They could be a new manager, Raphaela
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Paladino or Maresca could be manager in three months or
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: Thiago Mota, and I wouldn't be surprised. I'd be like, Okay, yeah,
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: well they're insane. A Legury couldn't like that. I could
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: see Allegriy and Tire both leaving I wouldn't be shocked.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: From what I know is that the CEO is staying
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: and that's the only constant that I know of, and
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: that sure, they could all say they're staying right now
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: and they're interested and ready to go for next season. However,
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: Moldrechsten signed. They haven't really figured out long longer term
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: plans for other players or like definitively say they'll leave
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: or not. But that's okay. With a few matches left,
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: there is nothing that I could see, I would say
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: best case scenario out of the reality, right, not what
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: we want, right, because we're like, go for Palestra, go
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: get pain, go get actual proven stars, you have the
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: money for it. They probably won't. They maybe do one maybe, right,
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: So what we have to realistically hope is that they
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: don't mess with these young kids and ruin their paths
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: to being future good players like Comboto Camarda specifically, right,
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: you don't want another Liba Rali situation. I hope for that,
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: and then I hope that they just get guaranteed like
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: it should be for me. Like that are realistic, right,
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: Mario HeLa should be a melan player. They shouldn't be
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: difficult if he wants to come and you can't go
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: past twenty five million. Go after yourselves, Okay, I don't
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: care if there's one year left play the game or don't.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: It should easily be another midfielder. If they wanted to
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: get somebody just for more depth, I'd sell off left
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: his cheek. I'd buy another center back outside of Hila too.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: Thiago Gabridel that that that defender. I like him, letcha,
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: it's not let' schair on one of the yak either way,
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: strong liked him. Thought he's done well.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: A full box for sure.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: Any full back left or right sounds like Spinatz Sola
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: is a name on the list like it's I respect him,
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: but it's whatever. That's also a quota thing too. For
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: Italian players, striker should be an aggressive purchase.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: I think there is risk with Lewandowski, but I think
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: if Jiminez, Ful Krugan and Cunku were all gone, you
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: have to use that money wisely. There's a couple pass
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: that you can go down most Kine. I see things
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: that like in him to them, but I also see
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: them being hesitant because of injury issues and he's inconsistent scoring.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: He's had some really great years and some other years
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: like this year where it's not so great, dysfunctional situation. Yea,
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: is it a Trey Soldi type? Do they go back
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: to Club Bruga again where they want to like, Okay,
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: this guy is semi established, but can we make him explode.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: I think that might be the type of striker that
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: they want to sign, who's like a guy one step
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: away from being worth seventy million.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get more.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: I think it'll be like a Santiago Costro type. But
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: those guys are going for like thirty forty million. Now
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: you see, like dere Kostitch of like you know, the
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: last Ditch types are like, Okay, we've got a Bulkan,
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: a Balkan teenager. Throw him into the prima ved or
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: youse systems. Let's see if he's like Vlahovich or Holland
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: or something, and it's just like, okay, you're playing lotto
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: tickets and that adds up to millions and millions, but whatever. Yeah, man,
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: it's just got to be aggressive veteran signings mixed sprinkled
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: in with one or two Atakameo Dogu types. You can't
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: center around where it's like Atakameo DOGU like a stupignon
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: where now you're nearly thirty million for those players and
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: how good did they do? Nothing? And then it's forty
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: million for so then it's seventy million there and rich
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: and you're not twenty five million, You're like, holy sh yeah,
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: ninety five million for basically limited contributions, not one an
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: established starter or consistent enough. Uh. So they have to
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: get rid of dead wade players that are not good enough.
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: They have to be on the same page. Like I
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: just don't. I'm not convinced of that because the CEO
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: is an idiot straight up. He doesn't know where to go.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: It's not even an insulting thing. I hear nice things
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: about him as a man, I don't give a shit,
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: Like I'm nice. If I suck at my job, fire
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: me get rid of me. Then if I'm not going
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: to understand, Uh, it's from what I know, he's at
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: least there till twenty twenty. So sorry for not clear answer,
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: but that's me on on these days. Right.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: No, for sure, but even you know you said the
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: sprinkle of you there, you know I had seen and
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: again we don't know, but I would like to see
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Kamoso get minutes.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: I would like to see Camarda get minutes? Are those
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: those sprinkles that.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: You would because I again like like, we don't have
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: a fucking ten Martino, like and how like aggravating?
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: How is that we don't have a ten? We don't
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: have a you know, a creative player, you know the
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: striker position. I agree with what you're saying. I it's
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: just it's.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Just a it's a they're too cheap to play with
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: the big boys. But then they're not also not willing
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: to take so much risk on like other players, like
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: they don't want they can't make up their minds. They'd
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: rather go like five million and cheap instead of just
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: like you could solve your problems by paying fifty million,
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: for example, up front for one player. But instead they
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: get scared off by the fifty million in the big contract.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: They're like, oh, that's the financial risk. But then this
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: is why they're financial idiots, because they'll go around and
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: then they had one hundred million on the players that
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: we all just named, and they're all flops and that
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: costs a lot of money too. So Robio costs almost
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: next to nothing. Proven player sure higher salary, same for
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: moldrege guaranteed known winners in no problem. What do we
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: do here? Because if you if you whiff on you
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: know Santimenez, like we just did thirty five million on him,
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: mut out the ten million plus like six million in
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: his contract and wages. How much does that cost?
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: Right, that's a lot of money. You're the one player.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: So I'm not saying all eggs in one basket, but
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: I'm like, can we put like the majority of them
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: in one? Like why can't we get this? Prove it?
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: Like there's a foundation in a way if you're able
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: to get one or two, this is what the team
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: after the semi final needed. But like that's what you
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: should have done. If you're shored up with a lot
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: of the positions, then you're fine. But now what do
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: we need? Fullbacks? We need center backs, we need a striker,
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: we need a more midfielders. Because the other guy's forty
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: still like Brough, I mean loft, this cheek should be sold.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: I And to answer the question, sorry Camaradas, I think
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: you should go play being a melan.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: It's way away from me on your scene, away.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: From Melan on loan at a better club more fluid,
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: modern style, so like Atalanta Fiordentina, potentially because Abat might
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: be the soswolo manager that's been rumored. And then Grosso
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: goes to Fiorentina, where Patatici wants Camarda, but just go
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: to a club that's not Leche. Like the idea of
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: Leche was so stupid to me. It bothered me greatly
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: because that's not a place to develop strikers. It's never been.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: I don't care about Kristovich, so for me, that's what
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: he has to do. Komoto, on the other hand, with
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: his age, I think personally that makes the most sense
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: that he gets plenty of minutes and not too many
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: minutes for his age, whereas Camarda, I think, really is
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: that talented that needs to be playing with a team.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: Komoto should be taking all of rlc's minutes. Ruben loftis
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: chek Loft. This cheek gets over like a thousand minutes
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: in the league. Not too crazy, cameo wise. If Komoto
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: is physically like okay for Seriya, tell me why it's
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: a negative to play that kid a thousand minutes. Now.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: The only counter that some people will have is like oh,
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: he should be playing nearly double amount though minutes with
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: the Sea team or being a clear backup or potentially
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: a starter. But I'm just like, why can't he be
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: a fifth or sixth choice midfielder that's just as good
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: of a development at a top club then not like
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: it for me that good? The sixth choice option is fine,
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: But if you loan loan to Sadiya, like, I think
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: they've handled him well.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: When I was in the City of b right, So that's.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And every I've seen moments and and and pockets
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: of games, and yeah, I talk and know other people
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: that like kind of view the league.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: Sure, they're like Komoto is awesome. Like every single person
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: will say it, right, They'll be honest with you. You
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: could you could tell that because we've had other players
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: on loan. They're like, this guy's okay, this guy's okay.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: It's just there's a lot to kind of rock with
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: and uh, take a leap of faith, right because the
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: bartas Agi thing, I'll end it with this, I said
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: to keep Bartasagi. I did not expect like the highs
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: that he had this year, which is a great lesson
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: because no one knows until you play the guy. Did listen?
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: Barcia knows how talented li Mina mal was, right, did
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: you act? It is anyone here? I actually think that
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: they knew he would be that No, maybe, maybe maybe,
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: but but you don't know for sure unless you play
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: the guy.
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: But not only that, you also know how to invest
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: in the academy to prep that player.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: Save a lot of money, right yeah.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: Like you build the players for your club, for your system.
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: You don't you like the like Messi wasn't like a
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: crazy like you signing like right right right, Like they
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: basically signed Pep.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: Shaped that system. He changed up the entire Lamasia when
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: he was higher. That's where they got him from, was
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: over there, so that's that's where he developed Messi and
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: then they knew where to put him, Like Barca's system
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: is is staying true stylistically for the most part, is
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: just the lines change, where like Hansei Flick is like
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: an idiot and he's playing the suicideline, whereas like you know,
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: like it could fluctuate over time, like Melan, Dude, it's
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: literally if you go through the list of like professional
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: players like exported Melon and you actually do a very
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: fine job like there there are plenty of like professional
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: players at there, like Melan have like respectable Setia players
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: like Pobega Colombo, Like those are fine players. They're not awful.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: Lobby is fine. They produced the best one of the
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: best goalkeepers in the world. Bartizagi looks to be a player.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: There's been other guys that we've also like let go
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: of that we could have kept that are of quality.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: Who is the guy who went to Wolves for like
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: a ton of money? Was a Melon's use system like
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: years ago, not even Coutrone like Soroloth, there was another
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: soro Ath or something like that. It was a Scandinavian player.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: But but that's the point though, Like it's just about
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: integration and finding the right system for that because it
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: is difficult in Italy, where I think there's a lot
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: of the issues corruption wise. I think we all know that. Yeah,
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: it's so easy to take advantage.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: Of perfect segue. It might be a perfect segue.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: Oh go for it, you want to do that?
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: No, no, But like what's your point is?
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: Like I think clubs would be welcome and happy to
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: take on and loan and play really talented youth players
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: that come from Milan Jube wherever. However, they want to
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: get promoted. There is an ecosystem here that winning gives
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: you money and there's risk with young players that if
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: you miss out on that objective, the consequences are far
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: greater than you using a player, because that's how broke
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: Italy is right, So like Milan don't want to trust that.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: For example, like their ideology is, well, we can't play
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: youth players like this because if we do that, then
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: we miss the Champions League, we miss the Champions League,
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: we lose money, We don't get that income that is
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: necessary for us. Because again, how many times we have
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: to see the statistic setia winner gets less money than
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: the newly promoted Premier League team. What else do you
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: need to know? So like it's all hands on deck
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: to get results to get into the top four. Maybe
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: you can get something sustainable over time, but there's like
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: so much financial risk for it. But that's why I
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: say Komoto is not really a find. How much better
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: is Ruben Loft this cheek than Christian Komoto at this point?
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: But truly I guarantee because one loft of sheet can't
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: even stay healthy. Two he's inconsistent in that of position.
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's good enough for Seti A. It's
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: just not that type of player. It's a great athlete,
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: but that's it.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: He got his stint. But I think it's I think
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: it's it's.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: Just he's technically limited. We know that he's like a
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: box to box, like he can only go downhill and
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: that's it. He's got one one mode ko like bro, like,
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: I see, like this guy has something. Who's to say,
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: like this kid can't be a stud almost immediately like
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: how do we know for sure? And again lone the
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: mountain January. Then if that's the case, worst case, he's
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: six months with Futuro, who's likely to go back to
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: Seti Chi and you get game time, you're with the
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: professional team. There's still value in that for a couple
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: of months, right, Like to say, like one hundred two
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: hundred minutes over like four or five months with the
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: Setia side is more valuable than like, you know, seventy
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: minutes with Melan and then like training with them all
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: the time. Like it's not I'm sorry, that's not that
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: big of a difference in my opinion, So I hope
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: they give him a chance. I don't think there's many
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: other players Tordiani. I don't know that kid might leave.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: They're already losing their top youth goalkeeper. Longoni to who
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: do you call Manchester City? But again, why would you
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: blame a kid like that? You go to the top academy.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: It's just it's your pathway is more reliable to make
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: you a professional as opposed to what Melan do where
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: they're very hit or miss. So, yeah, I mean the
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: corruption right segue.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: You need that corruption controversy scandal, Johnny. I don't know
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: if you want to wait it out there, but.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: Well there's two that we that we basically can touch upon.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: There's sure the refin or the prostitution ring.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Let's put them both out there. Everybody already knows about him.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So essentially, for those of you that have been
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: living under a city at ock Rocky, there was a big,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: big controversy that came out recently. I'm paraphrasing as much
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: as I can, so I apologize, but big controversy that
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: for the refs Rocky, the man in charge of selecting
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: a ref selection for certain games, was choosing refs that
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: were more historically favorable to inter For the inter matches
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: in comparison to just actually evenly splitting out. Now recent
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: reports of saying are saying that inter was not involved
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: with this situation. They're just they're just a beneficiary of
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: the situation. But obviously who knows, right, it remains that
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: that's that's still under investigation.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: And then the second.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: Thing that was really huge that we're all like laughing about,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: but like also like it's not city out without like
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: a massive prostitution ring, all being about sixty to seventy
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: like city players, some that are currently playing in the league,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: some of them that we're not playing in the league. Basically,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: I guess guys just you know, like, oh, if you're
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: ever bored, here's somebody's number.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: You can have some fun type of deal, you know.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: So which crasy.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: Apparently from what I saw, I think it's one like
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: sex work or something that is not illegal in Italy
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: or something like that, like.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: The Ladies of the Night, let's say, lack of better.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: Sug and I'm just kidding.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: Apparently it's not illegal, it's still scandalous because of what,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: you know, what it entails.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: But Yeahovich video Leo.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's always wowvich I like you know,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: like the club video where he's wearing.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: The I mean, yeah, everybody's still Champagnes and laughs about Maddona.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: So I mean yeah at this point, right, I don't
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: know which I mean, listen, the escort thing is like
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: that is what it is. If it's not illegal, Like
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Leagues have policies like yeah, I'm staying
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: away from that one.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: But it just it's just it's like not everybody.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: Everywhere you turn, it's like, oh, this player was involved,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: that player was involved this, like you see like the
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: lead and like yeah, it's like what do we believe
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: like the fact that.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: The answer it. I mean, it's just they're very good
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: at the gossip over there. That's the only form of
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: like ship that you see in newspapers. They're honestly up
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: there with one of the worst journalistic countries that exist
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: or that like have establishments that are supposed to be journalistic.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: They're the shittiest journalists, led by the most popular football
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: journalists in the world. They're jokes, they're not they don't
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: know what they're doing. They're there to create and start drama.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: Half of it's like unfactual. They're just tossing names out
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: there and saying like ah as so this name is
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: on it. It's not like oh, this was just a name,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: not that like this person purchased so and like you know,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: it's just it's embarrassing. And these people have families too,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: Like it's you get that wrong, you're incorrect or inaccurate,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: like god, Hnny mon, yeah, Johnny's good old Mike Rabel
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: and and that, like there's no it's true though, like
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: it tears families apart. That's accurate reporting, but it's so
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: like you know, stuff out there that is very public
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: and that's not probably the best of stuff as far
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: as you know, the controversy. Like where there's smoke, there's fire,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: right like this refereeing thing. Yeah, people saw Inter's name
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: linked with it, because those were two of the three
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: matches that were mentioned. There was the Kope Italian against
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: Melan and then the Bologna one where and then I
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: know into Roma was another that popped up Parma, which
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: is like a little similar to what the issue was
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: with Cayl Chapoli, right talking about put it this way right,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: I think I think blaming and accusing Inter immediately was
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: stupid and anyone who could read would understand that. And
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: I'm not just doing my meme, but like seriously like
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: it just they were never that was I hoping for it.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: That's a different question now now Like for me, just
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: proved everything that I had thought for years now. And
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: because I watch every game, their shift for everybody, guys,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: this is not exclusive to your club, And I'm speaking
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: to everyone here. We root for for for clubs that
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: get calls and have calls go against them, and we
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: knew there was something fishy on a level of like
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: the incompetency of it, or like why is bar not
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: doing this or are not doing that? And there was
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: like a quote for one of the things from one
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: of the bar incidents that wasn't reviewable. I believe it
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: was an inter roma if I'm wrong, where they were
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: saying mind your own business when talking about var like
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: var people together in terms of looking at a call,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: and it's like, you mean my own business, Like this
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: is my job, this is my business? Exactly what are
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: we talking about? And for somebody to step back from
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: their position, I think it's correlated because this is like, right,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: there's a way that it's supposed to work journalistically, and
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: there's the way that we all know how Italians work
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: and how they push out shit. They knew about this,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: This has been known for a while. This did not
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: come out of nowhere. What's very important coming up regarding
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: this football federation, the elections, Okay, more controversy, more issues
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: under this current regime will further prove that they are
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: too incompetent and that it's a problem on all levels.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: That only helps the newer opposition. This doesn't help Gravina,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: it doesn't help Abetday. Who are these older names. It's
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: going to help out my ago, right, So who I
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: believe is just gonna win this at this point, it's
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: just there's three World Cups. Its done, it's cooked. They're
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: they're probably looking at like whoever else. I think it's
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: clear there's a revolution there. If it stays the same,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: there might be Riot's not even kidding.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: They already did, they already started egging the federation.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: It's it's gonna it's gonna be worse.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, it's it's literally gonna get that much worse
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: and it should don't harm anybody, but no, but yes, uh,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: it's it comes down to this. Everybody loses nobody wins
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: in this. I don't see how we can go up
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: to other people in Canada and the US and try
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: and get them into Sadiyah when all they know on
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: a global scale or broader picture, is that were the
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: scandal league or the league that always has these issues,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: that are shooting themselves in the foot, ruining their own credibility,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: being antiquated with style. There are so many things a
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: laundry list of what is wrong, and this is just like,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: unfortunately a symptom. This isn't even like close to probably
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: the biggest issue, because there's there's puppet masters above all
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: this holding all the strings. This is if you know
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: how that country is, and I know you guys know
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: this that it is is rotten to its core rotten.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: You cannot do anything within logic over there without somebody
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: arguing it, and it could be the most logical thing possible.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: They'll be like, wait, actually, I want to get my
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: beak wet, meaning I want money. I want something out
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: of this. What can I gain from this that you want?
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: That would probably help millions of people, thousands of people
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: would help them with no problem, But what good does
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: it for me? And that's their problem? It's society's problem,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: but it's deeply rooted in everything systemically in Italy and
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: the bureaucracy. There's a effing nightmare. It's just like, right,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: like Sun Sierto should this should be a simple process,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: regardless of if you want to knock down or not.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: A new stadium should have been done. The same thing
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: can happen for Monopoly and Roma and the and the
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: Roma clubs. This shouldn't be a problem. We shouldn't have
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: to have so many hurdles where the wayfarer is sitting
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: there threatening twenty thirty two. Yeah they are, that's legitimate.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: That's a thing.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: They will take it from you. This sale was fine,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: and then this sale isn't fine. And my problem is
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: when the whatever Maloney's political party is is escaping my mind.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: At the moment, there's like twenty million of them, So
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: I don't blame it.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: The yeah what whatever, the.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: Italian Yeah, she's a beast.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: But like they go in, right, we see the latest
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: San Siero story and this is like this relates to everything.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: Sorry for no, no, no, it's literally it. So they come
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: in right and they're saying, oh, well, you know there's
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: corruption here. We're we're kind of we're kind of worried
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: about it, and sorry, what the fuck will you the
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: past fifteen to twenty years or decades, where have you
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: been you sniff out corruption when the city, aka the
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: country is going to lose a huge asset that was
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: making them money, which is son zero brings in revenue
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: for them. That's why they were reluctant to sell it,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: but only selling at the time that Sala deemed okay
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: because UEFA was threatening. And that's hurtful to the local
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: economy in Milan because you're not getting the type of
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: tourism in there for a major tournament. You know that
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: hurts like you shouldn't You shouldn't be losing that. It's
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: a major city, historically great for the sport. We don't
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: need to go through that. But why are there so
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: many hurdles and why do you pick corruption at the
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: time that it fits you. Corruption should be fought when
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: the large group in society of Italians is having negativity.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: The three of us don't exist. If there isn't level
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: of those issues in that country, we probably our families
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: probably don't leave, We probably don't exist to an extent. Right,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: The likelihood of it not to get park like that,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: not as reality. Italian Americans, Italian Canadians exist because Italy
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: was a disaster and there's still more and more people
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: coming here because it's that much of a disaster and
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: things are not getting plenty. I hang out like we
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: are how many of our My mother is from there?
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: It's literally it's recent. This isn't something.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: Like Adrian's dads from there. My dad was from from that.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: Right, See, like we're all whatever you want to call it,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: one and a half generation, right, white hair, Like that's
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: a it's not far removed. My family was too poor
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: to live in Collabria and they moved to Rome and
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: Rome was too poor, and then they moved here. What
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: this is the problem? Like it's it's not the found
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: day in that country is so broken, just as the
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: country is right. To get a football system to be
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: fixed is like not even near there. And the corruption
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: that you get away with it, like agents and there's
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: no like unions for players and protecting these youth kids
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: and you know, hey, uh, I'm telling you something. You
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: have to Like we see all those stories of like
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: agents screwing over young musicians in the industry. You think
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: that doesn't happen in football. There's no regulation, there's none.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: How many agents come up Joshua Zerxey doesn't come to
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: me long Kia Juberin or whatever his name was. I
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: went ten million euro. What's stopping him from asking more?
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: What's stopping an agent that's representing a very talented kid
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: that sells dreams to the parents and lies and says,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: let me represent your son. I can get him and
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: put him in a good position for his career, except
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: he lies the finances, and then he puts kids in
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: positions that are poor for their career in the long
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: term and the short term, and then they're left in
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: the dust with a career that's done for that they
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: financially can't be stable with because you don't get paid enough,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: and it's a poor country and situational live in. When
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: all that stuff happens, the youth gets corrupted. You can't
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: properly develop people because it's a tuggle war. There's people
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: behind the scenes that are How many crazy owners do
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: we have over there? Wow? Why there's so many rules?
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: Like Clariolo Tito is like a tiny piece of what
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: is many many shitty people in charge of what they're doing.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: And that is the problem, is that we're sitting here
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: waiting for simple things to change when the most important
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: things are not changing, and that's everyone in charge. If
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: that doesn't change, then there is no hope for the league,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: Like the UK is, like all things considered, a fairly
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: well run country that you know, in the nineties, they're like, Okay,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: we can come together with a cohesive plan to relaunch
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: the Premier League and make us long and sustainable to
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: the point where they got today. Italy they missed three
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: World Cups and they're still debating whether they should do
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: the basic things. And that shouldn't be a debate. That
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: should just be a no brainer. And it's not going
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: to be a no brainer because they don't give a
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: shit because they only care about themselves. And that's the
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: problem with Italian football. We could argue about this, you know,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: ref and the designators being corrupt. He's corrupt, The guy
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: who hired hims corrupt. The guy who's telling him what
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: we also don't even know who told him to do
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: this shit? Did he act on his own? Who's telling
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: him this? Is that going to be revealed? Are they
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: just going to go hush him? Up and go away
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: because it's part of the bigger thing. It's everywhere. The
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: problem is we're too aware of it now than we've
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: ever been, so it's a disaster. I only think this
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: becomes negative for the league. I don't see uh monopoly
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: like giving up like their scudet dollar like something that
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: like people were like theorizing, you know, like like you
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: create another title like that. It's there's going to be
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: just like heavy penalties, and I think it's going to
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: lead towards the regime change and the Italian Football Federation
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: and all you have to do at this point, if
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: you're in a Zudi fan or just a Calcho fans,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: cross your fingers and that's it. You hope that they're
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: the most competent of the corrupt.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: I also see Martino. I don't know if maybe you
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: know more it was listening a bit to it and
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: hearing about it.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: But if if the federation goes under under the government's power,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: you know, the you know.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: The contrary you're saying that the government controls the controls.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly like what it would obviously penalize, you know,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: Italian clubs, you know, for their participation in Europe in
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: the following seasons.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: Again that's just another.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: Negative Chefrin threat.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: But yeah, see, yeah exactly. Any thoughts on that, like
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: just like.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, so like I've read it, I don't
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: see how they further jeopardize them. So, like I like
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: put it this way, like I don't know how the
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: elections are going over there. I think that like Maloney
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: from what I gather, is largely unfavorable outside of her base.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: And with that, like everything that they do is going
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: to be unfavorable. I'm not trying to draw parallels to
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: this administration over here, which I have never been a
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: fan of. Is that you know, if you're in treacherous
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: waters and you're doing and like your base is like
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: turning on you slowly kind of in a way like
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: the average person in the country, not like your hardcore
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: like idiots. They are going to get upset, right, like
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: gas prices go up. If you ruined Italian football further,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: they were going to freak the out, like just what
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: Johnny was saying, like they're already doing protests. It is
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: going to get worse for you. If you get the
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: Euros taken away, you prevent stadiums from being built, you
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: become it bigger, and like, dude, they literally would invent
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: a way to find to be more embarrassing to miss
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: three World Cups. What's more embarrassing than missing three World Cups?
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: Having an entire tournament taking taken away from you has
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: kind of happened to the United States, hasn't happened to
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: Qatar all these other places that happens to Italian football?
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: Holy shit, Oh my god, it's they are going to
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: be just like so embarrassed. That is, it's like one
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: of the most unrecoverable things that I've seen probably is
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: it's a bit dramatic, but you don't you don't come
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: back from that if they I don't think they're going
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: to do it, but would anything, would I put it
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: past anything? That?
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: Right, Like that's the thing, Like logically, you're like, all right,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: at this point, you can't be doing this. Uh but yeah,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: like it just it's but also like shitty of UEFA,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: Like why are we again? Why are we punishing the
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: innocent party here? Their FFP system is stupid. Oh you
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: can't pay fine, Yeah, it's like your it's like the
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: bank says amount of money and they're charging me a
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: fee for five hundred. Brother, I couldn't pay you before that.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: What's that gonna do?
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: What makes you think I could pay you now?
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: Melan? Oh you're out of Europe. Oh how do you
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: make your income? Well, we have to be in Europe?
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: All too bad? Yeah, okay, thanks this there. I hate them. Stupid,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: it's stupid. I don't think they'll take over, though. I
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: think they'll get the elections in and it'll probably be
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: a mile ago. And I see scater I keep on
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: retweeting and saying things about Maldini. I will just say
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: this about that, and Andreanna, you know this is that
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: if someone like Maldini is willing to listen and be
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: a part of that, I would give it a chance.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: Just because he very rarely jumps at opportunities unless he
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: gets the guarantees that he wants.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: You know, there's something there if he's if he's jumping on.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: Board now again, I'm hoping it's not like sixteen years
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: ago with the Bad Joe Files, where Badjo is working
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: with the Federation and then they say, oh wow, that's great,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: good work, ten thousand pages, go get out the door.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: And I just still want that to happen. Of course,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: I guess this is a possibility, but.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: Well fuck if he says anything, you don't ever know.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: It's it's all hope. Everybody who's listening. There's not much
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: concrete positive news out there, so I apologize.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: No, but listen, Martino. Uh again, I think we can
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: if we continue on this topic. I feel like we
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: can be here all night.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: We opened your show as saying that this this it
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: was a snooze fest. Definitely not one tonight. Uh you
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: know Me and You was a swoos fest. But tonight's episode,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: I think was was had a lot of topics in it.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: So Martino, will we thank you for your time as always?
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: Uh, you know you're you've been uh you've been I
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: guess on the show, you know quite a few times now,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: and we appreciate every time you have for us. So
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: just for anybody before we wrap it up on our
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: end where people can find you, your your content and
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: anything else you want to plug my friend.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so thank you guys for having me again. I
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: gotta get you guys on. I am the worst at this.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: I am shy. I like it genuinely. I do mean
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: that I'm just really bad at it, Like well, yeah, no, no, honest, honestly,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: probably should and for everyone else that's for these two.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: They could do that. But yeah, no, I appreciate it.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: Martino Puccia everywhere, Martino Pooch on Twitter po c h. Yeah,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Sucks that we can't watch our Zuti
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: in the World Cup this summer. Fun maybe would have
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: gone out to Canada. I do plan on going probably
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: next season up by you guys places that I definitely
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: want to go and visit and watch with our boys
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: at Montreal. You guys are great, always pushing out content
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: and being so kind, and you guys get great guests
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: on and you know, Johnny learns things that he never
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: did before prior to the stream him and his two teams. No,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: I always appreciate it. Nick looks great too. I'm sorry
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: I couldn't see him. Think's the second straight time I couldn't.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: I think he's avoiding me. But yeah, yeah, right, ducking
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: and hiding. No, he's great, he's great. He looks great too.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: It's honestly great. Shape is happy for him. But yeah, again,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: if anyone likes me on content, go ahead and check
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: that out over there. We're doing a little bit more
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: on the broader football side of things, me and Santangelo
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: as we ramp up for the World Cup. So we're
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: doing more content on that side of things. You could
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: just go and check that out over there. Not much else.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: I just want to season over with fellas. But it's
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: always a lot of fun and hopefully brighter days ahead
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: we could finally watch a World Cup match. Best of
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: luck to e boys north of the border this summer.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 5: Best luck with you to the south of the Border.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I'm not really there's no emotional attachment.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 5: Oh, same, same.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: Honestly, it's really interesting. What can I ask why?
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 5: Like I know what it's because it's it's it's very obvious,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 5: like we grew up.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: If I'm a Adrie, it's because we grew up like
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: always supporting Italy like we never were never like cool.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 5: Canada was always a secondary thought for us.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: There was more pride for hockey because because Canada was
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: more present for hockey than it was for soccer.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: For us, what was more president.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and like even like basketball, like basketball cool, like well,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 4: support Canada, you know, but not like it's like not
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 4: even a crazy thing for the Olympics for US either.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 5: It's it's mostly like like that's why.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: Like one of our big issues this year was like
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: if like these these these Canadian football accounts were coming
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: out of nowhere saying like, oh, it's obviously because it's
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: just the Italians. It's just the Italians, right, Canada's got.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: A massive Canada. Canada's got a lot of like USA
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: nineteen thirties fivees with the it's pretty it's so bad.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: It's it's like they like know, like they think I'm Canadian.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: Sometimes I think it was like sid six zeros like
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: video that I like, which is stupid. It doesn't it
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter if they make it or not, Like he
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: doesn't understand his own point because he's an idiot.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: But yeah, but he's always spitt an idiot, that guy.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: He's been fired twice of his shows.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: Hard to get fired from TV, honestly, it's hard, but
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: it's no. Yeah, I mean like interesting. I I like
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: US soccer. It's the system that I don't like. The
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: players are like, okay, the reasony to root for when
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: I was younger. I do, like still watch everything. I'm invested,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: but no one makes me feel ashamed for rooting for Italy.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: I do it. I split it well, just like you
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: you do the crazier split if you do rall monopoly.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know if.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: It's because like one has like a childhood attachment and
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 4: one is a family attachment. So for me, it's like
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 4: it's I equate them both because it's yeah, without the
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: mother issues.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 5: I love my mom.
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  Speaker 4: But but uh, it's just it's just that for me,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: it's like I cannot I see, it's both are different
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: parts of me.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: But they probably push you away more when they say
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: the shit that they say. Oh it doesn't feel like
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: it's welcoming. With USA, sometimes you get those idiots who
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: are just like why you're rooting for that country. It's like, well, okay,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: you came here in the eighteen hundreds, my family got
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: here in the nineteen seventies, Like why. But that's for me,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: it's like and you know, like we grew up with
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: it and you didn't give a shit about it. Yeah,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: how you give a shit about it? And now you
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: want me to care the way you want me to
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: the way that I feel, which is like a huge
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: thing with the Americas anyways. But but like, yeah, but it's.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 5: The finish up my point, it's more like like that.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: And it's like, like I said, Kinda has got a
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 4: massive Portuguese population, but nobody gets nobody gets flocked to
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: the Portuguese Canadians that's support Portugal and this is not
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 4: an attack on them, This is not an attack on them.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: Just say like that like double standard.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like six zero over there is ports Canadian you
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: know what I mean. And he's and he's trashing on
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 4: Italians because Portfoli won one euro Cup in their entire
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: lifetime ever and anyway, like I'm not counting the Nations,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: Nations League, Nobody, nobody gives a ship, you know, Like
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 4: there's like like the Greek, the Greek Canadians that when
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 4: when Greece won euros and No. Four, you know, like
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: everyone celebrated, everyone was happy, but nobody like nobody's batter
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: than I you know. But like when it comes to
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: somebody who says I'm Italian dash something, whether it's Canadian
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: or American, the first thing you see in the comments
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 4: is like twentieth Italian or like you see comments like
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 4: your Italy four and stuff like that.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: It's like, buddy, like when not, yeah, I found the
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: I found this stupid. I think Canadian men's soccer trolling.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: Oh that Wasians men's soccer account. Now that bothered me
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 3: only because that's the main Canadian Yeah I'm doing it,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: but it was like a stupid fan account whatever, like
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 3: it's trolling, but like you're an actual federation taking a
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: shot at another federation when with all due respect to
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: Canadian soccer have one fuck off.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah one gold Cup in the year in two thousand
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 4: one gold cup.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: And I respect the players. I think it's a good teams. Yeah,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: I'm an American coach. Show that sound good thing. He's
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: great though, I love margin higher. I'm actually happy he
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: took the job.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 4: Because because US development has been significantly better than Canadian
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 4: soccer development, and then only only recently Canada has been
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 4: starting to try to catch up or improving theirs. But
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 4: like like Adrian I, for example, we want to go
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 4: see the FC Supra reveal a couple of well Nicholas
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 4: was there too a few weeks back to our left
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 4: were Canadian Italian Canadians by the way, but like like
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 4: guys who played for Team Canada Model Yellow and and
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 4: Nick DeSanctis, you know, like these are guys that also
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 4: helped play or coach the team, and it's like, you know,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 4: like like Italian Canadians have contributed to the success of
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 4: Canada or you know, any type of success. I think
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: the goalie when they qualified in eighty six was another
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 4: Italian Canadian for for the Canadian national I'm gonna I'm
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: gonna fact check myself really quick, Team Canada nineteen eighty six.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 5: But nonetheless, uh old, no, no, no, that's that's the World Cup.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 5: I want I want soccer about soccer.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: Uh but uh but anyways, um noneth like it just
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 4: you have to spit.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, here we go.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 4: Okay, first of all, see here Tino Lettieri goalkeeper, defender
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 4: Bob Linna Wait.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: Wait wait what was his full name?
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 5: I don't know what.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: I'm curious.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna double tick.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna see control of Hebatino. Sorry, I'm just scared.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: There's not really any Martino.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 5: No, he's Martino. He's a Martino.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: Look at that.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: I we had this conversation on this on record here,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: so we we got that.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, great, Yeah, you got ned Bashqually de Luca midfielder.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: It's like there's there were Italian Canadians's gonna tell you.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying to spit on. Yeah, maybe even if
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: it's tongue in cheek. It's it's so off putting. It's
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 4: like we we were so hyped when Canada qualified and
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 4: they earned it back in twenty twenty two, you know,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 4: like we were excited about that. We enjoyed that so much,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 4: and now it's like, Okay, the spot's not merited in
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty six because you're the host country, right, but
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 4: nonetheless you still just take it seriously. But then you
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 4: see stuff like that and it's like, I don't even
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 4: feel like you're in for Canada.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 5: Six just woke up anymore.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 4: It's just I'll be real like if they lose, I'm
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 4: probably gonna laugh, like I'm not gonna even be pissed off,
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 4: and I'll let people troll and I'm like, I'm not
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 4: gonna even defend him.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: I only want you to lose one game, and that's
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: the Bosnian one. I would love it because one the
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: Canadians is one because Italy lost to them. Yeah you
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: think like Bosniy is like a cakewalk, Bosnian is better
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: than Canada, Like I.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 5: Hate them, Like no, no, no, it's true, like it's any
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 5: European nations.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: But I just it's why I don't like I find
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: Americans annoying too, because there's something in the Americas where
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: because I know Canadians and hell yeah, Americans are too,
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of arrogance when it comes to sports,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: and there's a lot of arrogance, and it's why you
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: see them slip up the way that they slip up,
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: because they think that they're so much better than they are.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: Canada is a much better system in place in the
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: long term because you guys don't charge fifty billion dollars
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: to the average person to even play, Like travel soccer
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: used to be like ten thousand dollars at least when
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: I was like a kid. So I'm pretty sure that's
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: only gotten worse or more expensive. It's not accessible like
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: some would think. So that's like kind of a The
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: other issue too, is like culturally, you're not allowing everybody
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: to play. If you're not doing that, then you're not inclusive.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: You're not going to be the best versions of yourself.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 3: That's why you know the best players are dual nats,
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 3: you know half the time. Also, by the way, final thing,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 3: five ay goalkeeper, that's the most Italian five to eight.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: That's incredible. From Body too.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: He fits the bill, man, he fits the bill.
• 1:30:28
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