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IndyCar Recap & Reaction with Elijah Poe: Mid-Ohio (Guests: Dave Chanley, Heather Abt & Michelle Garmon; Podcast No. 317.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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[SPEAKER_08]: What you are listening to now is the Central Indiana Sports Report podcast number three hundred and seventeen point one a recap of the indie car race at middle high-o with Elijah pose reaction with guest Dave Chandley Heather App and Michelle Garmin you enjoy our new format this is my new vision of how the Central Indiana Sports Report's gonna go
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're listening to the central Indiana Sports Report with your host, Greg Mangal.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Good morning, good afternoon, or good evening, Indie Car fans.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And welcome to the central Indiana Sports Report's ten minute recap of the Honda, two hundred at Middohio on Sunday, followed by Elijah Pose reaction to the race with guests, Dave Chandley, Heather Appt and Michelle Garman of the
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[SPEAKER_08]: Tipton Tribune and I would call later.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Your ten minute recap begins now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's got fixed and tried to win seven.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's been Ohio, Alex, but I'll try to win seven on the year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can't the master have been Ohio doing?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, really close it down!
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's down to a colleague that I have.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That through took number nine for the final time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Four tenths of a second as they worked their way through Thunder Valley.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Scott Dixon, what's the advantage?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Trying to get them quickly for the seventh time here in the middle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We took them out of changing in the guards.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Scott Dixon may have heard it, and said, boys, not yet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He works his way out the carousel, and Alex, but all will not get it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a rare bubble by Alex Felo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He goes to victory lane.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He went to a hundred and eighty-two hundred and a little higher.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Alex Felo finishes second.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Chris did look to our complete symposium.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Colton earned a title award to please the top five.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Of course, that is Mark James and the talented crew for the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Radio Network, bringing you the finish of Sundays, Honda, two hundred at Mido Higho, Scott Dixon's fifty ninth career win, just twelve races short of AJ Floyd's all-time record.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Dixon did break his own record with his twenty first straight season with a victory, just unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_08]: As you heard from the crew there, Dixon took advantage of a rare Alex below mistake.
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[SPEAKER_08]: For his seventh career victory at Mid-O-Hio, he also won previously in two thousand seven, two thousand nine, twenty eleven, twenty twelve, twenty fourteen and twenty nineteen.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It was the seventh win in ten races, the season four, ganasi racing with Alex below winning the other six.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Below looked like he was on his way to another win on Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_08]: After a six second pit stop with eighteen laps left, putting him out comfortably ahead of Dixon.
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[SPEAKER_08]: After everybody's final pit stop.
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[SPEAKER_08]: But with five laps remaining on turn nine,
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[SPEAKER_08]: Below made actually a second mistake of the race earlier.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It appeared like he wasn't paying attention and drove off the road this time.
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[SPEAKER_08]: He went into turn nine a little too fast.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Went just off course giving Dixon just enough room to get by and Dixon held off below by forty two hundredths of a second.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It was the second closest finish ever at Mid-O-Hio, with Dixon's twenty-nineteen win over Felix Rosenquist by nine hundredths of a second, being the closest in the event's storied history.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Let's hear from the race winner, Scott Dixon.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I just thought Dustin, I'm like, well, you know, going into nine and I'm like, maybe there's some traffic coming and they kind of went off.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Some of the days here, the dust has been kind of lingering in the air and you see it in the cars already going ahead, but you obviously went off for nine, so sorry that happened to him, but obviously I think maybe they kind of slowed down because they didn't need to push, we still had to get a pretty big number.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If you're a mileage wise, so we couldn't really attack at the end.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, we'll take it, man.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's cool to be getting another win here in town at a higher stiffness special place for us in the team and one two is pretty special.
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[SPEAKER_08]: As Dixon mentioned, his teammate Alex Polo was second.
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[SPEAKER_08]: He led seventy-five of the ninety laps.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Disappointing finished for Polo, but
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[SPEAKER_08]: His third straight national championship in fourth in the last five years became even more inevitable today.
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[SPEAKER_08]: He now leads Kyle Kirkwood by ninety three points in patto award by a hundred and eleven.
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[SPEAKER_08]: The only two within a hundred and fifty points of below with eight races left in the season.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, that's a clear example of it's never over until it's over.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, big mistake, stupid mistake by my part.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We were running really good.
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[SPEAKER_06]: The power was amazing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: The team did a fantastic job on pit stops and strategies.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So we were looking really good.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, just lost it a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And two of turn nine.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And that was enough to lose like the opposition a couple of seconds.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, sucks.
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[SPEAKER_08]: That was Michael Young on the interviews for both Scott Dixon and Patto O'Ward, again for the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Radio Network.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Christian Lindgard of Arrow McLaren Racing earned his fourth podium finish of the season.
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[SPEAKER_08]: He did it three times in the first five races and again today.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Colton Hurda was fourth and late, problem on a pit stop cost him a podium finish.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Award is Fifth Feele Grows and Quest finished sixth.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Followed by Marcus Armstrong, then Kyle Kirkwood innate pretty good result for a race where Kirkwood was pretty much invisible the entire day.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Reenus VK was in ninth.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Kiffin Simpson was tenth and Nolan Seagull, eleven after those two were in the top five most of the day.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Then it was Calamilot, Lewis Foster, Alexander Rossi Santino for Ruchi who was penalized and actually drove two different cars off of the tractor in the race.
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[SPEAKER_08]: His Foyti mate David Malucas was seventeenth, then Stingray Rob.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Carter daily was nineteenth, he was one of those drivers driven off the road by Ferucci.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Otherwise, may have had a top fifteenth finish.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Devlin D. Francesco was twenty-a-th, then Robert Schwartzman Jacob Abel.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Scott McLaughlin was the top finishing Pinsky driver in twenty-third place.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Graham Ray Hall was in an incident in the opening laps in finished twenty-fourth.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Followed by Christian Rasmussen, Willpower in twenty-sixth and Joseph New Garden in twenty-seventh, the incredibly poor season for
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[SPEAKER_08]: Pinsky continues here is Mark Jane with the description of the early incident.
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[SPEAKER_12]: green flag flies of the Honda ND-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D
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[SPEAKER_12]: down at the exit of Turner before Graham Ray Hall and Joseph New Garden.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And just moments later, his teammate Will Power came into the pits with his engine on fire.
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[SPEAKER_08]: His day was over as well.
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[SPEAKER_08]: New Garden spoke with Fox television after the race, but refused for some reason to speak with the radio broadcast.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Will Power did however express his frustration after the race.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well man, tough, tough here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you grapple with just the difficulty, the frustration, and try and reset ahead of the next one?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we're doing that every weekend of the moment, just every weekend, and some things, but people go through these ones, see it all the time, just one of those things.
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[SPEAKER_08]: As I mentioned Alex Blow in clear command of the
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[SPEAKER_08]: That's twenty twenty five championship race with three hundred and eighty six points ninety three better than Kyle Kirkwood, a hundred and eleven better than Paddo Award.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Felix Rosenquist of Meyer Shank racing is fourth in the standings tied with Scott Dixon.
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[SPEAKER_08]: who moves up to a tie for fourth with the win.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Chris and Lou Gardner moved up to sixth with his podium finish, followed by Will Power, Scott McLaughlin, Santino for Ruchi and Colton heard it in the top ten as we head to Iowa.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Pinsky racing has dominated a Iowa in the past, so maybe they can turn things around this weekend.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Here's some info on just how bad of a season it's been from the Indian Apple Stars Nate Brown.
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[SPEAKER_08]: He reported last week.
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[SPEAKER_08]: This is now the eleventh straight race without a win for Pinsky.
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[SPEAKER_08]: They're longest drought in over a decade.
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[SPEAKER_08]: They're six straight win without a podium finish.
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[SPEAKER_08]: They're longest drought since twenty thirteen.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Susie going into this race.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Pinsky Racing had their most DNF's already at just the midway point of the season today.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Number nine and ten.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Please stay tuned for Elijah Pose reaction with guests.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Dave Chandley, Heather App and Michelle Garmin.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're listening to the central Indiana Sports Report with your host, Craig Mendel.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Welcome, Indy Garphans.
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[SPEAKER_08]: The central Indiana Sports Report and our reaction to the Mid-O-Hio Honda-T-U-Hundred.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And man, it was a doozy.
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[SPEAKER_08]: We all thought it was over.
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[SPEAKER_08]: We all thought it was going to be a bit of a boring finish.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And then it was not Elijah your reaction to Scott Dixon's historic win.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I think we finally learned that Alex Polo and the number ten crew happened to be human after all.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You went off twice a day, going off with the five laps left, let Dixon pass them and just can't believe it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You're not used to seeing those mistakes from Polo.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So when you do, it feels like just absolutely crazy.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Great to see Dixon, our third winner of the indie car season, and it was a fantastic ending to Middohio.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, and we're joined now by Dave Chainley and Heather apt with their reactions.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Also Michelle Garmin of the Tipped and Tribune, I know would call it or I want to start with Heather though.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Heather is a big Scott Dixon fan.
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[SPEAKER_08]: His fifty ninth career win and we were watching the race and all of a sudden he was just in the lead there.
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[SPEAKER_08]: What was your reaction?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm G. I mean, the race is pretty boring on my and at least besides the Pinsky drivers crashing out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So whenever I saw the Dixon and
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[SPEAKER_00]: pillow, go off the track and Dixon pass him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, I'm jean.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I perked up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, I got to start watching now and tune in because Dixon's my favorite driver.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was really good to actually see like another driver win and MC obviously Dixon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know how many more I'll have left.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I assume he'll have a at least one more year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but it's good to see him win at race and especially with his little one kit there that was super cute and then his mom was there which was super sweet for him and I just think that was really good just to see Dixon and his own teammate as well battling for the lead I just think that was really impressive how they both handled it.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah and Dave has won me first year in a row with a win unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_09]: that really is an unbelievable mark, high-standard.
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[SPEAKER_09]: And of course, when you talk about the greatest of all time, he has to be in the mention, along with Andrade and Foit.
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[SPEAKER_09]: And he just is.
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[SPEAKER_09]: And you could throw another couple more names in there.
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[SPEAKER_09]: But Scott Dixon is just phenomenal race driver.
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[SPEAKER_09]: He has been.
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[SPEAKER_09]: He's maybe one of the greatest of the past.
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[SPEAKER_09]: And he just beat one of the greatest of the now and future.
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[SPEAKER_08]: and Michelle Garmin in my lifetime, it's always been, foie and ready, uncerr, rutherford, mirrors, and now you got to put Scott Dixon, unquestionably in that conversation.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, yes.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, he's right there.
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[SPEAKER_11]: You know, you said that first here, and that is, and then, you know, you had Dixon, and you had, at this time, and you also had Dario Frankiti, and everything like that.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I really kind of wish that Frankiti would have continued racing for a while, or been more, you know, aligned with Scott Dixon, because I thought those two, you know, Dixon's earlier career.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I thought those two had some good battles.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I really kind of wish that Frankiti would have continued racing for a while, or been more, you know, aligned with Scott Dixon, because I thought those two had, you know, and Dixon's earlier career.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I thought those two had some good battles.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, yeah, I thought that changed all that Michelle.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, that's right.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And I'm going to say this, I'm just going to say a flashback, a driver who I think, and Tony Kanon told me in his interview, who was so talented and had such a bright future in racing ahead of him was Dan Weldon.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And that was really a shame that he had the crash like he did because along with Scott Dixon, I mean, well, that would have been another rivalry.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I guess we're talking about, we had a bunch of Americans.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And now, and then you're had the English kind of the foreigners.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And now, you know, it's kind of a mix again, but yes, Scott Dixon is, he is the greatest.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So with the great, he will be of his generation.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He's the best.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He's the best of his generation in that time.
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[SPEAKER_08]: But Elijah, the guy who's coming to be the best, pretty much if there was any question before today, clinched his fourth championship in the last five years.
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[SPEAKER_08]: despite as we mentioned two giant mistakes today.
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[SPEAKER_08]: He ran off the road once it looked like he just wasn't paying attention and ran off the road the second time of course in turn eight there.
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[SPEAKER_08]: He just turned in a little too hard and lost a little control.
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[SPEAKER_08]: That was the issue or turn nine.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Sorry.
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[SPEAKER_08]: It's kind of a mixed bag for below.
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[SPEAKER_08]: He had another race win in his hands.
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[SPEAKER_08]: He blows it, but his teammate wins it and he's on his way to a championship.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So he took it pretty well and stride.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, even with those two mistakes.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, you've got to think he's upset right now and he finished second in the race for four tenths behind his teammate.
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[SPEAKER_07]: At the end of the day, that is really a still a really good result.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Obviously he's going to be kicking himself.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And the team crew did deliver with that last pit stop as well.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Put him ahead of Dixon and to see Alex have a mistake.
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[SPEAKER_07]: He's just so uncanny from him.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And I'm interested to see how he can recover heading to Iowa next week with two ovals up ahead.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Hey, Elijah, would you call that?
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[SPEAKER_11]: Would you say that's the best pit stop that you've seen this year under the circumstances?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That was just absolutely rapid.
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[SPEAKER_07]: He got through with, yeah, he got through with even room to have on the, when he was able to exit.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It was just unbelievable without the number ten crew is unfortunate.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Alex Plo wasn't able to pull it off, but fortunate for us fans to see another winner in the series.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I will agree with that Elijah.
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[SPEAKER_09]: It was time to see another winner.
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[SPEAKER_09]: It's great for the series.
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[SPEAKER_09]: The Dixon wins for more than one reason for one.
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[SPEAKER_09]: It's got Dixon and first year in a row.
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[SPEAKER_09]: And for another, it gives us a different winner.
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[SPEAKER_09]: And that makes it more interesting as we go on.
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[SPEAKER_08]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Let's talk about Colton Hurda.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Did not execute on the final pit stop.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Probably wasn't going to win anyway, but definitely cost him a podium.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Still a good day for Colton Herta.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Still a good day.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Fourth place.
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[SPEAKER_09]: He got around a ward for fourth.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Potto award.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Good day for him.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Getting up to fifth.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Great day for arrow.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Third and fifth.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Luke Art is a really good young driver that is somebody that we are going to have to keep an eye on.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Still no dains and victory lanes, but we will get one one day.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, a great day for Lunar Guard.
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[SPEAKER_08]: The other thing was, you know, as good as Patto, as good as the result was for Patto and really even for Kirkwood, neither one of those guys was ever even mentioned in the broadcast as I threat to in the race, which was a little odd.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And of course, we're gonna need to talk about Kiffin Simpson and Nolan Seagull, who were up front all day.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Probably had their best races of their careers, where they were up front for the longest as far as that goes.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And still the results were mixed.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, you definitely have to feel for Kiffin Simpson who arguably should have been in that third place position when things were said and done.
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[SPEAKER_07]: He was on the same strategy as Dixon and the hybrid stalled in the pits.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And that's been a recurring thing ever since the hybrid's been involved in any car for the past year.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You see them stall in the pitch trying to get out and it's super unfortunate because he would have had the best result of his young career in any car so far today if it weren't for that hybrid issue.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Tuesday for a flight racing.
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[SPEAKER_09]: They had been doing so well and today they struggled and it started yesterday with the qualifications, but they struggled today and I'm a flight racing fan.
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[SPEAKER_09]: They just didn't have it today.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Well, we can't start the discussion on struggles until he started talking about the pinsties.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Are they the worst team in Indie car right now?
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[SPEAKER_07]: The way they finish, it sure does look that way.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not sure what was wrong with Scott McLaughlin's car.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm gonna have to read up on that.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But he paid, he pitted five times today and was a lap incident.
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[SPEAKER_07]: The only runner allowed that finish to lap down other than him and Ray Hall.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Just absolutely miserable result having new garden seemingly spin on nothing on that opening lap.
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[SPEAKER_07]: That was one of the craziest locks I've seen and will power having an issue as well.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Just can't get any worse for them.
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[SPEAKER_09]: There's a lot of us fans that are for anybody but in ski, but I feel sorry for them a little bit because they are needed.
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[SPEAKER_09]: They are a great team.
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[SPEAKER_09]: And Iowa is New Gardens track, so to speak.
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[SPEAKER_09]: So maybe he'll bounce back.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I didn't think at this point, if New Garden does bounce back, I mean, his season is so far in the dumpster.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not even sure it can rejuvenate that Penske team at all, heading into the final races of twenty twenty five.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I almost look at this season for Penske as almost a wash.
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[SPEAKER_08]: They're going to have to start over fresh next year.
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[SPEAKER_08]: They were going to have to anyway after what happened to Indian all the firings.
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[SPEAKER_10]: But do you guys remember one of the last times of Penske had a really bad season?
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[SPEAKER_10]: They came back the next year in two or three dry and they were just dominant dominant.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And so every time I can think of that they've had a bad season, they've come back the next year and we're the best team.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, so it'll be interesting to see how it does.
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[SPEAKER_10]: It'll be interesting to see how to see if everybody still has their ride of Tennessee and how it plays out.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, with the whole right situation.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not really sure how they're going to play their cards because obviously it's not just a will power problem.
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[SPEAKER_07]: This is an organizational issue from that standpoint.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So it'd be really hard to kick him out of the car.
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[SPEAKER_07]: They're still doing it.
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[SPEAKER_08]: They're still doing it Elijah.
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[SPEAKER_08]: You think he's out of the seat?
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[SPEAKER_08]: I think for next year.
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[SPEAKER_08]: No doubt in my mind he's gone.
20:47
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not to I'm not too confident that.
20:50
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not too confident in that.
20:52
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, he is their longest tenured race winner.
20:54
[SPEAKER_07]: He's, I think he's still ahead my golf lead in the points.
20:57
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, I had a new goal.
20:58
[SPEAKER_08]: I've year since he's been a factor in anything.
21:00
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, in championship battles, I would, I would say yes to know he was obviously in there last year if it didn't have a bad result at Nashville with the seat belts coming off.
21:09
[SPEAKER_07]: He could have won the championship.
21:13
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, I also think that it's awfully good to have willpower in the field because he always stirs up something and this week is for practice in the field somewhere.
21:26
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm sure of that.
21:28
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm sure he'll be somewhere.
21:29
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm sure he'll be a sought after free agent.
21:31
[SPEAKER_08]: I just don't think he'll be a pinsky.
21:32
[SPEAKER_07]: Greg and I talked about.
21:34
[SPEAKER_07]: Reena's VK earlier this week.
21:36
[SPEAKER_07]: How about him moving up some from twenty spacing in ninth place in a Dale coin car just unbelievable unbelievable.
21:43
[SPEAKER_09]: Just for Reena's VK to be in the mansion for maybe a pinsky ride.
21:50
[SPEAKER_07]: I feel like he should be at this point the way he's delivering weekend and week out for
21:54
[SPEAKER_08]: still coin which no say that they'll coin they just don't have the pace and they know that but to see Venus be up here in the top ten almost a weekend and week out it's super impressive what he's doing in twenty twenty five I would say the answer is no too too many guys like Marcus Armstrong and guys in cars like that looking to move up to the top of the ranks I don't think he's quite
22:16
[SPEAKER_08]: in that discussion.
22:17
[SPEAKER_08]: Maybe, but you talked about, for eight days, we gotta talk about Santino Farucci and everybody loves him for the same reason that he is a problem.
22:26
[SPEAKER_08]: And he ran two different, he ran two different guys off the road completely today, just completely ran them off the road blocking them.
22:35
[SPEAKER_08]: And it even happens in practice with this guy.
22:37
[SPEAKER_08]: And again, that's the reason we kind of all love him is he's so racing, but man.
22:44
[SPEAKER_09]: But that's why we're liking is first of all, the two drivers with the least fear in this whole series are, uh, the, uh, Centino Farucci and Takuma Sato.
22:55
[SPEAKER_09]: That's right.
22:58
[SPEAKER_07]: That was really bad and only see him get penalized with three positions.
23:06
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, that doesn't hurt his race at all, really.
23:09
[SPEAKER_07]: When he's running that far back with some of the backrunners, he's going to be able to pass them quickly.
23:14
[SPEAKER_07]: He just forced Conradalia off the track.
23:16
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, he forced Conradalia off the track so hard that he went off the track himself.
23:20
[SPEAKER_07]: It's just almost unbelievable that things he does sometimes.
23:23
[SPEAKER_07]: But like you guys said, I mean, that is why he is one of the favorites in the any car series.
23:27
[SPEAKER_07]: You don't see a lot of drivers who are going to do that.
23:30
[SPEAKER_08]: According to Indy Car, the reason he wasn't penalized a drive through or a lap, it was because that was not a place.
23:38
[SPEAKER_08]: Passes are often made and that daily speed was unexpected because he had just come out of the pits and he's surprised for Ruchi.
23:46
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, but you know what, the guys on TV didn't buy that.
23:49
[SPEAKER_10]: By the way, they were talking and they, you could tell that they just, they said it's an every, it becomes an every race occurrence with for Ruchi.
23:55
[SPEAKER_03]: So absolutely.
23:57
[SPEAKER_10]: That's nice on Indy Car's part to say that, but it's
23:59
[SPEAKER_10]: They were wrong.
24:00
[SPEAKER_10]: I agree with you, Elijah.
24:01
[SPEAKER_10]: And at what point does it happen?
24:04
[SPEAKER_10]: The Indie car has to step in and said him for a racer too.
24:08
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, if he keeps doing this and getting away with it, that's just not right.
24:12
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, there's a lot of money involved and cars can get torn up with run guys off the road or if you're, you know, it's not like NASCAR where you had the bump and runs and you know, they're going to bang on each other.
24:24
[SPEAKER_10]: Indie cars are just, there's no place in it.
24:28
[SPEAKER_10]: I know it makes for exciting erasing, but it's no place in it for somebody to do it repeatedly, race after race after race.
24:37
[SPEAKER_07]: I also think Santino could have made that corner with daily side by side.
24:41
[SPEAKER_07]: But he ran really wide on that exit.
24:44
[SPEAKER_07]: I think he could have slowed up to even though that's not a passing point.
24:47
[SPEAKER_07]: I still think those cars could have followed closely.
24:49
[SPEAKER_07]: And to Michelle's point at what point is enough, especially with how racy he is, I think he can get away with being aggressive on these road courses because there is a runoff.
24:59
[SPEAKER_07]: Obviously, both cars were able to continue.
25:02
[SPEAKER_07]: But if you have racie instance like this on a super speedway or a short oval, I'm really looking at somebody getting seriously hurt then.
25:10
[SPEAKER_08]: It kind of reminds me of Thomas Shector, although the difference being that everybody likes Faruji off the track and he is actually usually apologetic about it.
25:19
[SPEAKER_08]: Thomas Shector didn't care what anybody thought of him.
25:23
[SPEAKER_09]: That's a name out of the past and you're absolutely correct on that.
25:27
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, he would just go in the, he did not care what anybody thought of with me.
25:31
[SPEAKER_10]: The question of the point racing point racing keeping because he's popular.
25:36
[SPEAKER_08]: I love him.
25:36
[SPEAKER_10]: I think you smell.
25:38
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
25:40
[SPEAKER_09]: I think they love him.
25:41
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
25:41
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
25:42
[SPEAKER_09]: Absolutely.
25:42
[SPEAKER_09]: Fort racing and for Ruchi is a, I think, just a great match for for for for and for for Ruchi.
25:51
[SPEAKER_07]: And I think he's going to keep his seat for however long he wants that for as long as he continues and with his success on the ovals and especially the five hundred.
25:59
[SPEAKER_08]: He knows the result a bunch of crashes if he starts crashing out a lot then you have no no choice but he has not he's been a he's actually higher in the standings than Malukus the golden boy.
26:15
[SPEAKER_07]: And he said, St.
26:16
[SPEAKER_07]: Tina was been really, really aggressive on the ovals.
26:18
[SPEAKER_07]: And I'd be interested to see what those void cars can do headed up to I will hear next week and see how aggressive they're going to be.
26:25
[SPEAKER_07]: It's definitely going to be interesting.
26:28
[SPEAKER_08]: Great part of the schedule right now Dave races every single week.
26:31
[SPEAKER_08]: We got a couple of ovals coming up.
26:33
[SPEAKER_08]: It's a good time to be an indie car fan right now.
26:36
[SPEAKER_09]: I am really looking forward to Iowa because it's not just one race.
26:39
[SPEAKER_09]: It's two races and it is a short hopeful.
26:43
[SPEAKER_09]: It is a really short oval and strange things have happened there and it's just good racing and I've always liked Iowa.
26:55
[SPEAKER_08]: And Michelle, it's also a track where Joseph Newgarden has completely dominated, just like St.
27:00
[SPEAKER_08]: Louis.
27:00
[SPEAKER_08]: It's a track where Pinsky has dominated.
27:03
[SPEAKER_08]: Will power's been great there.
27:05
[SPEAKER_08]: It'll be really interesting to see what Pinsky has this coming weekend.
27:10
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, it will be interesting.
27:13
[SPEAKER_10]: And if it doesn't go well, if Newgarden's bad luck continues, if Pinsky's bad luck continues, I think you just have to wonder,
27:25
[SPEAKER_10]: If that happens, you just kind of have to wonder where they are as an organization from the top down.
27:30
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, now maybe just under Roger.
27:32
[SPEAKER_10]: And maybe now is Roger got as he's got an older and what's having the motor speedway and running in all of that is he and his dance cartoons has he overextended himself to the point where he's thought he had everybody right in place under him.
27:46
[SPEAKER_10]: And both racing organizations and maybe he's getting a little act of sabasical with overseen.
27:55
[SPEAKER_08]: I think it's just been a bad season, especially having to fire all those guys during Indy.
28:00
[SPEAKER_08]: Elijah, your final thoughts about Dixon's win about Pelosi mistake and about the series heading into Iowa.
28:09
[SPEAKER_07]: addiction, twenty one seasons with the win is just mind blowing up.
28:13
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not sure there's going to be another any card driver with that stat next to their name.
28:18
[SPEAKER_07]: He is just one of the series greatest and heading into Iowa next week on I'm a little curious how the racing is going to be ever since NASCAR did that repave two years ago.
28:28
[SPEAKER_07]: It's been hard to see guys go to the outside of the track.
28:31
[SPEAKER_07]: I heard some mixed reviews from drivers who tested their last week, saying, oh, we could have a really good race, or it could be kind of follow the leader.
28:39
[SPEAKER_07]: So, I mean, I'll be interested to see how that plays out, but anytime any cars on a short overweight, it tends to provide great entertainment.
28:47
[SPEAKER_08]: Thanks everyone, fun race.
28:52
[SPEAKER_08]: even when it looked like we were headed for a boring race with Alex below dominating from start to finish again.
29:00
[SPEAKER_08]: Indie Carthers' year.
29:02
[SPEAKER_08]: Just never let us us down, race to race.
29:03
[SPEAKER_08]: It's been fantastic all season.
29:07
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