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- 0:00SPEAKER_00: hey this is andrew from the band dirty kings and you're watching cms tv
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- 0:21SPEAKER_02: it is chris aiken presents and i of course am chris aiken glad to be here once again
- 0:26SPEAKER_02: and we are going to be talking a band that i wasn't aware of i feel like a douche
- 0:30SPEAKER_02: that there's three of these out here and i didn't know it uh
- 0:34SPEAKER_02: the new record is simply called three or dirty kings three the band is
- 0:38SPEAKER_02: the dirty kings and here to talk all about it is uh the main man himself from
- 0:43SPEAKER_02: the band it is mr andrew sample andrew how are you man
- 0:46SPEAKER_00: i'm good chris uh it's an honor to be here thanks for having me oh glad
- 0:50SPEAKER_02: to have you man and like i said at the start man i'm almost embarrassed
- 0:54SPEAKER_02: that i did not know your music because now that i've had a few weeks to really kind
- 1:00SPEAKER_02: of not only listen to the new record but listen back sell
- 1:04SPEAKER_02: as well i i really i don't know how to describe it i'm gonna let you do that uh but
- 1:11SPEAKER_02: it's compelling in a lot of ways there's so many elements of so many things
- 1:17SPEAKER_02: without being any of it you know i mean i had somebody
- 1:21SPEAKER_02: before you even start out i i had somebody asked me today about
- 1:25SPEAKER_02: who i was interviewing because you know that's what i do and
- 1:28SPEAKER_02: and they asked me i said i'm interviewing dirty kings i was in
- 1:31SPEAKER_02: and i interviewed sabotage so they knew sabotage and
- 1:34SPEAKER_02: then it was like um well what is dirty kings i was like well
- 1:39SPEAKER_02: there's sort of a clutch thing and there's sort of a kiss thing and there's sort of
- 1:44SPEAKER_02: a you know classic rock and little modern
- 1:49SPEAKER_02: but nothing modern rock you know it's this is a hard music to describe
- 1:54SPEAKER_02: so i'll let you kind of you know what you feel like you're creating
- 1:58SPEAKER_02: so what are you creating and what do you tell people
- 2:03SPEAKER_00: you're correct on all those things but also none of those things right at
- 2:07SPEAKER_00: the same time we are a twin guitar hard rock band
- 2:12SPEAKER_00: that's how we kind of decide or describe ourselves in
- 2:15SPEAKER_00: a nutshell um our main influences are you know 70s
- 2:20SPEAKER_00: and 80s bands kiss thin lizzy ufo those bands that rely
- 2:26SPEAKER_00: on twin guitar harmonies here
- 2:28SPEAKER_00: and there great vocals good backing vocals vocal harmonies things like that
- 2:33SPEAKER_00: but we do have
- 2:34SPEAKER_00: people that say hey you got a little bit of clutch influence or they may name
- 2:39SPEAKER_00: a new orleans band you know like the new orlands sludge scene
- 2:42SPEAKER_00: or desert rock yes all of that i think we've
- 2:47SPEAKER_00: taken in especially for this record dirty kings 3
- 2:50SPEAKER_00: i think is the widest variety of influences for us
- 2:54SPEAKER_00: and styles um everything from the stones
- 2:57SPEAKER_00: and Zeppelin to
- 3:00SPEAKER_00: you know metallica and the new wave of british heavy metal i think is in this record
- 3:04SPEAKER_00: so that's great to hear that you're you're saying that it's hard
- 3:08SPEAKER_00: to describe our music because it is but
- 3:10SPEAKER_00: to boil it down twin guitar hard rock pretty bare bones sure when you go
- 3:16SPEAKER_02: when you create music like this is it is it difficult to manage it and what i mean
- 3:23SPEAKER_02: by that specifically is when you're writing music and
- 3:27SPEAKER_02: you know a lot of people you know you take
- 3:29SPEAKER_02: a i don't know kill switch engage i'm just throwing any band out there they know
- 3:33SPEAKER_02: what they're supposed to sound like and they know immediately
- 3:36SPEAKER_02: if they don't you know what i mean yes you guys pulling a lot
- 3:40SPEAKER_02: of different influences from here and there is that a good thing is that a bad thing
- 3:46SPEAKER_02: or is it both from time to time depending on how it comes together we think it's
- 3:51SPEAKER_00: a very good thing especially being 10 years into this band now it'll be my 10th year
- 3:55SPEAKER_00: with the band later this year
- 3:57SPEAKER_00: they were around for a couple years before me without a lead singer
- 4:01SPEAKER_00: before they really started churning out original music but so as
- 4:04SPEAKER_00: a band that's been around for 10 years or a little bit more you know we don't have
- 4:08SPEAKER_00: a record label we don't have management we don't have
- 4:11SPEAKER_00: a legal team we do everything ourselves so with that that grants us 100 control
- 4:17SPEAKER_00: over everything that we do i think with our first record you know
- 4:21SPEAKER_00: that was hey these are all the this is the first batch of 10 or 11 songs
- 4:25SPEAKER_00: that we've written as a band
- 4:26SPEAKER_00: we put that out as a record i think the second record crown jewel
- 4:30SPEAKER_00: that was released um i think that was more of a concentration for us to make sure
- 4:35SPEAKER_00: that we had a little bit of this and a little bit of that on the record you know
- 4:39SPEAKER_00: and we wanted to make sure that we had something that people could could consider us
- 4:45SPEAKER_00: but with this record we didn't leave anything on the table you know
- 4:50SPEAKER_00: if somebody brought in an idea that they were that they really believed in
- 4:54SPEAKER_00: that was developed
- 4:55SPEAKER_00: we didn't say no to it even if it was uncomfortable we definitely wrote outside
- 5:00SPEAKER_00: of our comfort zones on this record and with that came a big variance of song styles
- 5:08SPEAKER_00: at the same time i think that we developed the the vocals quite a bit more on
- 5:12SPEAKER_00: on this third record as well the backing vocals specifically i wrote lines just for
- 5:18SPEAKER_00: the guys to sing as backups that i wasn't singing on so we really
- 5:22SPEAKER_00: broadened the vocals as well which i think brought more melodic tendencies in some
- 5:28SPEAKER_00: of these songs especially the first single out of line
- 5:32SPEAKER_00: that chorus was really something that we struggled with as far as like
- 5:37SPEAKER_00: does this sound like us and if it doesn't well screw it let's make it sound like us
- 5:42SPEAKER_00: and we worked on it until we were comfortable with it so um we're very proud of
- 5:46SPEAKER_00: the fact that we wrote outside and maybe above ourselves on this record
- 5:51SPEAKER_00: to have this uh this array of styles for dirty kings three right on
- 5:58SPEAKER_02: for dirty kings three you know playing off of what you just said here
- 6:03SPEAKER_02: when you were putting it together was there a conscious effort to go further
- 6:10SPEAKER_02: than you had with crown jewel meaning you know i like this and i like that
- 6:15SPEAKER_02: but it's not quite where we want to be like you and you know this man you've been in
- 6:20SPEAKER_02: the business forever every single band in the world thinks
- 6:23SPEAKER_02: that whatever they just did
- 6:25SPEAKER_02: greatest thing that they've ever done yeah until three months later and
- 6:28SPEAKER_02: then it's like ah this sucks and i changed this i changed that i changed
- 6:31SPEAKER_02: that you know so so for you guys
- 6:34SPEAKER_02: when you were putting this together i'm sure you were looking back at crown jewel
- 6:37SPEAKER_02: at least subliminally and saying like some
- 6:41SPEAKER_02: of this wish we would have done these 10 things different this is what we're gonna
- 6:45SPEAKER_02: do with dirty kings 3 is that how it came to play
- 6:48SPEAKER_00: i tell you what i don't think it i don't think there was a plan um rightfully so
- 6:53SPEAKER_00: but i will say personally once we were about three maybe four songs into the writing
- 6:59SPEAKER_00: of this record i think i even told the guys i was like i don't know if we're writing
- 7:03SPEAKER_00: a better record than crown jewel because maybe there was this song that was
- 7:07SPEAKER_00: over here this song over here this over here and at the time i think i was thinking
- 7:13SPEAKER_00: are they are they together like is this gonna make are these supposed to be on
- 7:17SPEAKER_00: the same record but i i was able to get rid of that in my mind and just trust
- 7:24SPEAKER_00: in what we were doing as players and as
- 7:27SPEAKER_00: a band you know this lineup i think is i think we have some magic together you know
- 7:34SPEAKER_00: um
- 7:35SPEAKER_00: i truly believe that and you know after crown jewel was released you're right after
- 7:41SPEAKER_00: that record was released i was like you know i wish we would have done this i think
- 7:44SPEAKER_00: i think we would have done a better song if we would have done this um i tell you
- 7:49SPEAKER_00: after hearing this one so many times and it's been out for five
- 7:53SPEAKER_00: or six weeks now i wouldn't change a thing on this record and i think we all feel
- 7:58SPEAKER_00: that way i'll ask you
- 7:59SPEAKER_02: in six months you'll be like oh i would change all these things okay you're
- 8:04SPEAKER_00: on six months from now let's talk here we go exactly
- 8:08SPEAKER_02: well well um andrew for for not only for you but for the guys in the band
- 8:12SPEAKER_02: as well you know crown jewel for people
- 8:14SPEAKER_02: that don't know was what five six years ago something like that right it's end
- 8:19SPEAKER_00: of end of 2001 so yeah 2021 21 wow where'd that come
- 8:26SPEAKER_00: from record label days right right um uh yeah so you know four and a half years
- 8:31SPEAKER_00: between between albums and we certainly didn't expect it to take that long but
- 8:37SPEAKER_00: also going back to not having a label or management pushing you we take all
- 8:41SPEAKER_00: the time we want to and i'm glad we did
- 8:44SPEAKER_00: because again these songs are well developed um we trusted in ourselves as
- 8:49SPEAKER_00: as you know writers and as editors you know to make it right
- 8:55SPEAKER_00: and make sure it was completely finished um so
- 9:00SPEAKER_00: again you know i don't think that we left anything on
- 9:03SPEAKER_00: the table uh we didn't kick out ideas that well
- 9:07SPEAKER_00: that doesn't sound like us let's just work on something else but no no let's take
- 9:11SPEAKER_00: that idea and keep working it until it's comfortable so hopefully that answers
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- 9:49SPEAKER_02: for for a band that does not have a Signature hit will say but you know, um
- 9:57SPEAKER_02: and and obviously the other thing that happened between then and now was
- 10:01SPEAKER_02: that little global thing that took everybody off the map for five years sure it took
- 10:06SPEAKER_02: a lot of bands at your level out completely where bands just stopped
- 10:11SPEAKER_02: because they couldn't get together
- 10:12SPEAKER_02: or it didn't feel like they they would get back together and it didn't feel
- 10:16SPEAKER_02: the same whatever did you guys have that moment yourself and if not how did you keep
- 10:22SPEAKER_02: from getting into that pit well um
- 10:27SPEAKER_00: jamo jameson our drummer joined the band in 2020 um i'm thinking in the summertime
- 10:36SPEAKER_00: so it was it was during the first six months of pandemic okay um we played a couple
- 10:42SPEAKER_00: of shows live with him
- 10:43SPEAKER_00: that's back when everybody was distancing and had masks on in the audience
- 10:47SPEAKER_00: and we would have masks on until we played and that was our goal was like get
- 10:53SPEAKER_00: a couple of albums below our belt or a couple of live shows with jmo
- 10:58SPEAKER_00: and just concentrate on writing and getting this record done so for us when
- 11:03SPEAKER_00: the crown jewel time it was perfect because we didn't have a lot of live shows
- 11:06SPEAKER_00: to play so we can concentrate on writing the end of that record and recording it
- 11:11SPEAKER_00: and putting that out
- 11:12SPEAKER_00: but supporting that record after it came out was still tough
- 11:15SPEAKER_00: because man we were playing two three shows a month
- 11:18SPEAKER_00: before pandemic regularly you know and after coming out
- 11:23SPEAKER_00: with crown jewel we were like well you know we were playing like live stream shows
- 11:28SPEAKER_00: right and things like that which were you know those were odd for everybody um
- 11:33SPEAKER_00: so i think we kind of built back up
- 11:36SPEAKER_00: since then um you know we still don't play as many shows as we did
- 11:42SPEAKER_00: before pandemic um because some of the clubs shut down you know just like a lot of
- 11:46SPEAKER_00: the bands shut down we don't have as many live music venues as
- 11:50SPEAKER_00: here in colorado as we did before pandemic so um you know
- 11:54SPEAKER_00: the opportunities aren't quite what they used to be which is okay
- 11:58SPEAKER_00: with us now looking back you know we're five years older now you know some
- 12:02SPEAKER_00: of us have grandkids now so there's you know life changes as well but as
- 12:07SPEAKER_00: with everything in life i think you always want to do better with quality
- 12:11SPEAKER_00: over quantity um and so our shows that we play now i think are
- 12:15SPEAKER_00: uh better supported they're better promoted and there's better outcomes as well
- 12:21SPEAKER_00: so i don't think pandemic really i think for us we took advantage of it in
- 12:25SPEAKER_00: the right way because again we were recording our second record
- 12:29SPEAKER_00: when everything really hit and kind of you know stopped the world for a while
- 12:34SPEAKER_00: but you know um we we used it to our advantage you know right on
- 12:39SPEAKER_02: well man rock fans around everywhere always say these days they say they want real
- 12:46SPEAKER_02: rock back and i can't tell you how many times i hear
- 12:49SPEAKER_02: same stupid comment and i will slam everybody every time when they say there's nothing good
- 12:54SPEAKER_02: now you know you hear that so often and that's just straight lazy because i'll argue there's
- 13:01SPEAKER_02: more good than there was in the absolute heyday i don't care what you say to heyday is 70s 80s
- 13:06SPEAKER_02: even 90s i if you dig and you don't look for something that has 13 million streams or whatever
- 13:19SPEAKER_02: there's tons of great music out there and there's more ways than ever to get to that
- 13:25SPEAKER_02: as a guy in a band how do you react to that man especially and
- 13:30SPEAKER_02: as somebody that's worked in the business i mean you know how to promote a band
- 13:34SPEAKER_02: if nothing else for people that don't know andrew used to be a publicist
- 13:38SPEAKER_02: so he knows how to work a band absolutely that has to drive you crazy
- 13:43SPEAKER_00: when people say stuff like that well you you you hit the uh nail on
- 13:47SPEAKER_00: the head you know by saying it's just pure laziness now if you just listen
- 13:51SPEAKER_00: to fm radio and are you know wanting your mtv back well then you're not going
- 13:57SPEAKER_00: to find what's out there now you know but now more than ever yeah i mean
- 14:02SPEAKER_00: the way music is absorbed now you have to go digging for it a little bit
- 14:06SPEAKER_00: but that's that's rewarding
- 14:08SPEAKER_00: when you find something or you're turned on to something that was right in front
- 14:12SPEAKER_00: of your face all you had to do was go to this side or that side or
- 14:16SPEAKER_00: or you know i always i think the band camp is one of the great resources
- 14:20SPEAKER_00: that is still underused we love our band camp page because you can stream us
- 14:25SPEAKER_00: from around the world you can listen to our records if you like it you can buy one
- 14:29SPEAKER_00: of our lps one of our cds one of our t-shirts from our band camp page it's not just
- 14:34SPEAKER_00: a streaming service
- 14:36SPEAKER_00: it's a service for bands to to move physical product and i think we're stupid
- 14:41SPEAKER_00: if we think that physical product is going to come back and be the main way
- 14:45SPEAKER_00: that people listen to music it's not going to happen it's always going
- 14:49SPEAKER_00: to be streaming from here on out but the fact that vinyl is
- 14:52SPEAKER_00: so popular now cds are coming back bands always do limited run cassettes now you
- 14:58SPEAKER_00: know all those formats are still valid
- 15:01SPEAKER_00: so getting back to your question your topic yeah it's pure laziness
- 15:05SPEAKER_00: if people don't think there's nothing good that's new out there you're just not
- 15:09SPEAKER_00: looking or ask a music fan ask somebody that used to do what I do that used to be
- 15:16SPEAKER_00: a publicist or a radio promoter guy
- 15:18SPEAKER_00: you know go to a local record store and ask the guy sitting behind
- 15:21SPEAKER_00: the counter what's new
- 15:23SPEAKER_00: that you know this this is what i like you know what should i look
- 15:26SPEAKER_00: at now what should i listen to you know again i think you're right it comes back
- 15:30SPEAKER_02: to pure laziness no i i a thousand percent agree and the other thing
- 15:35SPEAKER_02: that i think is frustrating and has to frustrate you as a band in the especially in
- 15:40SPEAKER_02: the 80s but also in the probably to the mid 90s
- 15:44SPEAKER_02: the big bands took care of the little bands it always took care you know the
- 15:48SPEAKER_02: the bands fed the scene all of my cds whether it's my hair metal years
- 15:52SPEAKER_02: or my death metal years or whatever era i was
- 15:55SPEAKER_02: in myself was always fed there was always a big band like in 1990 i found i kind
- 16:03SPEAKER_02: of transitioned out of hair metal into death metal
- 16:06SPEAKER_02: and i started and i started where where most people started i started
- 16:09SPEAKER_02: with cannibal corpse butchered at birth you know and and
- 16:13SPEAKER_02: then sepulter arise those were like my two those were my two starters
- 16:18SPEAKER_02: of extreme metal but then when i saw those bands you know then i would see
- 16:25SPEAKER_02: who's this immolation band or who's
- 16:27SPEAKER_02: this you know uh malevolent
- 16:30SPEAKER_02: creation yes and you know you would
- 16:32SPEAKER_02: be and even that in the 80s they did
- 16:35SPEAKER_02: that you know i remember seeing kiss
- 16:37SPEAKER_02: and getting slaughtered discovering
- 16:38SPEAKER_02: slaughter because i was there in time
- 16:41SPEAKER_02: to see kiss earlier you know
- 16:44SPEAKER_02: the establishment used
- 16:47SPEAKER_02: to take care of the...
- 16:50SPEAKER_02: the scene i don't think the establishment cares about the scene anymore
- 16:53SPEAKER_02: the establishment's fine if it dies as long as they still have a gig
- 16:56SPEAKER_02: and that's horrible it's it's i think that does more damage than even spotify
- 17:01SPEAKER_00: or anything has done i think you're right and going back to the 80s
- 17:05SPEAKER_00: and 90s you know tours that would have three and four bands um back
- 17:10SPEAKER_00: then were usually not fairly i wouldn't say similar in style
- 17:15SPEAKER_00: but you could absorb all the bands on a bill
- 17:19SPEAKER_00: a friend of mine were just talking about the complete control tour of 1992
- 17:25SPEAKER_00: which was obituary cannibal corpse agnostic front
- 17:30SPEAKER_00: and malevolent creation i believe like agnostic front being in that band like
- 17:35SPEAKER_00: the oddball band but they were so well established that that show went
- 17:39SPEAKER_00: over like gangbusters where i saw it you know and i think now you know touring
- 17:46SPEAKER_00: bands it's all about it's all buy-ons now it's not like hey we want to take out
- 17:50SPEAKER_00: a younger band that we believe in it's like well who wants to pay the most for this
- 17:55SPEAKER_00: whose dad has a trust fund exactly exactly so you're right
- 18:00SPEAKER_00: the establishment doesn't take care of itself uh
- 18:02SPEAKER_00: the music industry record labels don't want to develop
- 18:06SPEAKER_00: bands like they used to and if you've got somebody who's on
- 18:09SPEAKER_00: the way up well put somebody there on that support slot to ride their coattails
- 18:13SPEAKER_00: in there and have those fans pick up on this band that really doesn't exist anymore
- 18:18SPEAKER_00: and i kind of miss those years as well when you went to see your favorite band
- 18:22SPEAKER_00: or band that you've been waiting to see because they're the the next big thing all
- 18:28SPEAKER_00: of a sudden you discover that opening band
- 18:30SPEAKER_00: or that you know so it's just really not
- 18:33SPEAKER_02: the same way anymore you're right no it's it's it's not and
- 18:36SPEAKER_02: and i mean it's it's frustrating i mean i i've seen so i discovered more than half
- 18:42SPEAKER_02: of my collection from seeing bigger bands that's just how i've always done it and
- 18:48SPEAKER_02: then recently you know if you go to
- 18:50SPEAKER_02: a big show now you know obviously i'll use metallica because that's the easiest one
- 18:54SPEAKER_02: who are they taking out pantera that needs no help uh wolf yeah limp biscuit they don't need
- 19:01SPEAKER_02: any help they don't need a help wolfie really is getting handed everything you know he doesn't
- 19:07SPEAKER_02: need the help it's like dudes take out dirty honey and i and they don'T even need the
- 19:13SPEAKER_02: help but they're still small enough that
- 19:15SPEAKER_02: you know they could rival sons or one of those bands could rise up to be
- 19:21SPEAKER_02: that next piece and nobody takes care of them and that's just terrible
- 19:25SPEAKER_00: i will say that there's one thing that happened in the last several years
- 19:28SPEAKER_00: that i thought was fantastic and uh there's a band from saint joseph missouri
- 19:32SPEAKER_00: which is a small town about 30 or 40 miles from kansas city missouri um
- 19:38SPEAKER_00: a three-piece band with three brothers in
- 19:41SPEAKER_00: the band they're called radke r-a-d-k-e they were actually
- 19:45SPEAKER_00: on century media put out one of their records about 10 years ago small um
- 19:51SPEAKER_00: kind of a i mean you call them i guess a punk band but they've got a lot
- 19:54SPEAKER_00: of different styles they did three or four shows with the foo fighters took them out
- 20:00SPEAKER_00: and so that to me i was like how did that i don't even want to know how
- 20:05SPEAKER_00: that happened the band radke is managed by their father
- 20:08SPEAKER_00: you know okay right it's really a good story but that's very few and far between
- 20:13SPEAKER_00: you know anything anymore like any major tour
- 20:16SPEAKER_00: is you know you get like radio band out with radio band
- 20:19SPEAKER_00: with support from radio band yeah it's boring
- 20:23SPEAKER_00: you know i i think it's happening right now or about to happen again
- 20:26SPEAKER_00: rob zombie and marilyn manson again yeah how many times
- 20:29SPEAKER_00: is that yeah how much time did the twins of evil
- 20:32SPEAKER_00: toured together whatever you know it's like same old crap going to
- 20:36SPEAKER_00: the same audiences too.
- 20:38SPEAKER_00: Right?
- 20:38SPEAKER_00: no it is yeah we need we need we need to bring that sort of um leading
- 20:43SPEAKER_00: in all younger bands and with the old ones again that needs to come back
- 20:47SPEAKER_02: right on man well dude let me pull it back
- 20:49SPEAKER_02: to your band we've gotten way off track here okay but let me pull it back
- 20:53SPEAKER_02: to your band i i wanted to ask you specifically and i don't know
- 20:57SPEAKER_02: if you will know this or if you're gonna have to defer this
- 21:00SPEAKER_02: but i have some questions about the guitars themselves i love the textures of
- 21:07SPEAKER_02: of guitar that you guys that you guys are doing i don't know if it's
- 21:10SPEAKER_02: if you're layering or if you're
- 21:14SPEAKER_02: double and triple tracking things or what but there's a sound that just feels real
- 21:22SPEAKER_02: and I don't know how else to put it other
- 21:24SPEAKER_02: than it feels real it feels like what I've heard in a million rehearsals you know
- 21:30SPEAKER_02: from bands that's almost always better than the slick produced thing
- 21:35SPEAKER_02: that you come up with is that something that you guys actively work on or is
- 21:40SPEAKER_02: that just the nature of
- 21:43SPEAKER_00: how this band sounds it is how we sound because we are
- 21:46SPEAKER_00: a gibson marshall band okay our guys play gibson les paul guitars and we run
- 21:53SPEAKER_00: through marshall amps and that has been our standard since i joined the band
- 21:57SPEAKER_00: and it's kind of been a strict a strict thing with us you know um our guys we kind
- 22:03SPEAKER_00: of ventured out a little bit in the studio this time we used one of the guys use
- 22:06SPEAKER_00: a les paul jr uh we use a stratocaster on
- 22:09SPEAKER_00: on one of the songs we used a couple
- 22:12SPEAKER_00: different things to do some different textures
- 22:14SPEAKER_00: like you said but we're
- 22:16SPEAKER_00: mainly, you come see us live
- 22:17SPEAKER_00: my guys are playing Les Paul's
- 22:20SPEAKER_00: through Marshalls
- 22:21SPEAKER_00: but we do pay close attention
- 22:23SPEAKER_00: to the tones and when we recorded
- 22:26SPEAKER_00: this record, we had all
- 22:28SPEAKER_00: that in mind. We record
- 22:30SPEAKER_00: live in the studio
- 22:32SPEAKER_00: The rhythm tracks are done
- 22:34SPEAKER_00: live. We come in so well rehearsed
- 22:36SPEAKER_00: and
- 22:37SPEAKER_00: then after that we'll do guitar solos and then vocals over the top but
- 22:41SPEAKER_00: the music is recorded live so that gives it a great energy
- 22:46SPEAKER_00: so those guys aren't sitting in the studio doing individual tracks over and
- 22:51SPEAKER_00: over again we're getting one and two takes out of these songs and then we build
- 22:55SPEAKER_00: on top of that there isn't three or four different guitar tracks laid
- 22:59SPEAKER_00: over those those are like raw tracks with guitar solos being put over the top
- 23:04SPEAKER_00: of them but you're right though as we pay
- 23:07SPEAKER_00: meticulous attention to the tones that we come out with
- 23:10SPEAKER_00: and we just we've always said that we don't need to be produced we just need
- 23:14SPEAKER_00: to be recorded well right because our raw sounds we pay a lot of attention to
- 23:20SPEAKER_00: so i'm actually really glad that you brought that up and
- 23:23SPEAKER_00: the guitar players will be ecstatic to hear that as well
- 23:26SPEAKER_00: because we do think it sets us apart from most bands who maybe just don't
- 23:32SPEAKER_00: i think a lot
- 23:35SPEAKER_02: of bands these days are comfortable staying comfortable you know what i mean it's
- 23:39SPEAKER_02: and and especially on guitar
- 23:43SPEAKER_02: that is comfortable being comfortable sounds like every piece of ai garbage
- 23:47SPEAKER_02: that i get that's that comfortable guitar sound that yeah it sounds like this or
- 23:53SPEAKER_02: that but it all sounds the same i love this because it doesn't sound the same and
- 23:58SPEAKER_02: and
- 23:59SPEAKER_02: of all the different comparisons that i made at the start to all
- 24:02SPEAKER_02: the different bands you cannot put a finger on a band
- 24:05SPEAKER_02: and say these guitars sound like these guitars you can't do it it's a great perk
- 24:13SPEAKER_02: to your music thank you for that
- 24:15SPEAKER_00: and again we i think we just pay attention up front more to um drums
- 24:21SPEAKER_00: as well you know joey shapiro who runs avalanche studios where we record in denver
- 24:27SPEAKER_00: he used to play drums for xyz he's not the original drummer but he toured
- 24:32SPEAKER_00: with them was all in their latter years amazing drummer himself but you walk
- 24:37SPEAKER_00: into his drum room he's got a rack of 40 different snares up there and he's like
- 24:42SPEAKER_00: let's pick one and see what we can come up with you know on
- 24:45SPEAKER_00: the crown jewel record we used um a snare that uh belonged to uh wild mick brown
- 24:51SPEAKER_00: from dawkin on a couple of tracks so it's just great to have that
- 24:56SPEAKER_00: at our disposal um you know and we frankensteined a drum kit
- 25:00SPEAKER_00: for this new album dirty kings 3 jmo's our drummer's dw kit but we brought
- 25:05SPEAKER_00: in this special kick drum we used this you know special tamma snare drum that joey
- 25:12SPEAKER_00: had in mind for us so we had kind of a frankenstein kit
- 25:14SPEAKER_00: but man it sounds great same you know with the guitars
- 25:17SPEAKER_00: and we didn't borrow any guitars but again those guys know how we want to sound
- 25:22SPEAKER_00: so they just mic us in a way that they're going to capture that sound and they know
- 25:26SPEAKER_00: that they don't have to tweak
- 25:28SPEAKER_00: the tones they just you know just record us well give it
- 25:32SPEAKER_00: a little reverb you know mix it well it's good so i i appreciate that you uh
- 25:38SPEAKER_00: that you can pick that out excellent
- 25:41SPEAKER_02: well man on this show we tell everybody as i said before
- 25:45SPEAKER_02: if you're gonna stream it all right fine stream it a couple
- 25:48SPEAKER_02: of times two three whatever but buy something for god's sakes buy a hat a shirt
- 25:54SPEAKER_02: a vinyl a disc mp3 whatever it is buy something to support the band so
- 26:00SPEAKER_02: the band can continue you mentioned your band camp why don't you give out the link
- 26:04SPEAKER_02: to the band camp as well as any other good places to purchase the actual three
- 26:10SPEAKER_02: that benefits you guys
- 26:12SPEAKER_00: that would be bandcamp of course
- 26:14SPEAKER_00: so that's dirtykings719.bandcamp.com
- 26:20SPEAKER_00: you know everywhere else like spotify
- 26:22SPEAKER_00: and apple music they stream at what a hundred and 116 at 128 you're right well
- 26:29SPEAKER_00: with bandcamp it's a higher it's 192 i think yeah yeah so that's
- 26:34SPEAKER_00: a better sounding stream so you can stream us from there buy the digital version
- 26:38SPEAKER_00: the cd version the lp version
- 26:41SPEAKER_00: a couple of our t-shirts up there that you know comes directly to us money wise
- 26:46SPEAKER_00: as far as that we don't have a real website to go to you know that's just
- 26:50SPEAKER_00: an expense you don't need anymore as an independent band
- 26:52SPEAKER_00: but you know you can keep track of us at facebook.com slash dirty kings
- 26:57SPEAKER_00: and our instagram we keep pretty busy there and that's dirty kings 719
- 27:02SPEAKER_00: so all those places you can follow us at and again the best place
- 27:06SPEAKER_00: to purchase our music is band camp if you're not local here in colorado
- 27:10SPEAKER_02: right on and if you're local in colorado you better be going to
- 27:12SPEAKER_02: a show don't be that's right a bum be at a show yes yes sir nice well man
- 27:18SPEAKER_02: the record is awesome it is simply called dirty kings three uh i suggest everybody
- 27:23SPEAKER_02: at least check it out and if you like it buy it please do do something good for
- 27:27SPEAKER_02: the band and um andrew this has been a lot of fun man thanks for joining me here
- 27:31SPEAKER_00: on me too and it's such an honor to be um with you and i know you know with
- 27:36SPEAKER_00: with charlie's metal shop you and i both grew up
- 27:38SPEAKER_00: um with the metal shop and i got a chance to interview charlie several years back
- 27:42SPEAKER_00: on my old radio show so this is kind of a full circle moment for this this metal kid
- 27:47SPEAKER_00: so i i appreciate that man and you too congratulations on all the years of of
- 27:52SPEAKER_00: of pushing metal and just being a friend to all
- 27:54SPEAKER_00: the bands out there well thank you man
- 28:09SPEAKER_01: yo metalheads you ready to let the beast out of its cage this ain't just
- 28:14SPEAKER_01: an album this is iron maiden's the number of the beast the riffs hit harder
- 28:18SPEAKER_01: the bass thunders deeper dickinson's voice rips your soul in half
- 28:24SPEAKER_01: run to the hills hallowed be thy name the title track
- 28:27SPEAKER_01: that made eddie immortal every track sounds like it's straight from
- 28:31SPEAKER_01: the devil's own amp crank it to 11 and feel the power
- 28:34SPEAKER_01: that defined heavy metal don't walk run to the link at the bottom of the screen
- 28:37SPEAKER_01: and grab this beast right now before it sells out