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Bonus: Athletics LLC S3 E28 'ft Rosalind Joseph' October 21, 2022 · The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast

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  It's bonus time, we're honored Athletics, LLC would allow us to
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  present to you the audio version of their weekly Friday Night,
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  YouTube series. Let's get to and see what the
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  crew has in store this week. Lamar always getting that last
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  word in, right before the record happens, right?
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  So, anyhow, anyhow, welcome to another fun at the sewed of
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  Athletics, but we'll see. I have to get, like sound
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  effects to do that, for, like, the digitizer.
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  So, anyhow, you could do the right thing and just stop doing
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  it. No, that's no fun.
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  I like it, I like it. That's no fun.
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  So we'll see where you're always with.
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  So obviously we have five tiles. We're missing an extra tile but
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  we've got to guess this week so I'll definitely say hi and give
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  a great introduction for that tile but we'll let the gentleman
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  say hi and hellos. So I'm going with the easy one
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  first governor, how are you today still getting over this
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  flu and Feeling better every day.
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  So, got a big weekend, is Homecoming.
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  Coming up this weekend. So, you know, trying to rest up
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  as much as I possibly can because, you know, it's going to
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  be hectic. But, yeah, you know, no, rest
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  for the weary. No.
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  After you said, help. Texas is in read last week.
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  I literally like, sanitized everything.
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  Like, I can't do it. I can't do it.
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  I told the kids share anything doorknobs, wash my hands.
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  Oh yeah. Not have this CDC will scare the
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  bejesus really. Well I'm getting my flu shot
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  tomorrow so I'm good. Anyhow sir Lucius how are you
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  this evening? Sir?
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  I am wonderful. Backpack in my homes, my home
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  City, hanging out for a couple of days, check on my mama, and
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  I'm good. Look, a little chilly up here,
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  but can you give everyone an update on Mom?
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  Since everybody heard there was no mamas, mamas mamas, she's
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  doing better. She was up in Cleveland had a
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  procedure after the Cleveland Clinic and she's now back here
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  in Columbus actually. Just a little bit outside of
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  Columbus said, Canal Winchester. But um she's at a rehab facility
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  there and she's doing well and I spent a couple hours with her
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  there today and up lifted our spirits and much so it was a
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  good deal. Good.
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  I'm sure that's gonna make a lot of people happy here.
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  So good. Thank you for being going to
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  thank everybody for all their prayers.
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  I do. Awesome.
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  Awesome C. And then this man goes and
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  changes his name like twice and then I don't even know how to
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  pronounce when you just put the, Mariano Yankees and 60 this
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  pretty good, it was okay. If you are a Yankee fan, you
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  take These shots which is fine, right?
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  You, you know that when you when you join the fandom at Birth.
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  And and so one of my guys, his dad was running off at the mouth
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  when he was here in town, when the Yankees got walked off in
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  game three. And so, that were down to 21 in
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  the twins. He's like, oh, they're done.
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  He leaves tomorrow. I said, well, I'm not an NCAA
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  coach, so I got money since if we win, not only game for but
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  game fun. Good answer.
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  Kept running his mouth. I can't hear you.
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  This conversation we kept running his mouth.
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  Like, okay, so we won game 4. I was like, I don't hear nothing
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  because your money is not what your mouths at and he's like oh
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  they're definitely going to lose the five bubbles, like, wait a
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  minute, you just told me they're gonna lose him for and Gerrit
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  Cole was trash and he wasn't going to get it done.
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  He won two games, okay? So after Giancarlo hit the three
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  run home run earlier in the first inning, I called him was
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  like same energy. No, yeah, same energy.
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  So yeah, that's where we're at. That's a wrap.
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  Sorry, I asked, why is better? Because you asked if you see,
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  no, I'm well, I'm gonna let you wrap with that because I think
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  this is not going to go well, for me, the better what I say.
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  No, it isn't as long as as long as we all know, right after the.
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  Yes. It's going as well.
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  Take our walk away. Yes, we will last and last but
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  definitely not. I'm sorry, we have a great face,
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  a great tile to join us. We have the newly appointed
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  recently appointed, not newly appointed director of a track
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  and field for Ohio State. There are definitely other
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  accolades but I'm going to stop at that one so that we can let
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  her talk about Excuse. Excuse me, missed you we need.
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  Proper introductions. Is it?
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  These Ohio, the Ohio. because it is under the Ohio
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  State because I was trying to look up Ohio State for Don't and
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  this wasn't recently, but I was like, oh hio and literally my
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  head I'm hearing your voice Ohi. Oh, and I'm like, I know I'm not
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  that stupid, like, it's four letters, I can't get this wrong.
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  And so finally, I go by some other method and it says, the
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  Ohio State. And I said, you got to be
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  kidding me and trademarks, he is a exactly.
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  It is a thing trainer. Read more real anyhow, it's
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  Roswell. Thank you so much for joining us
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  this evening. Thank you for having me.
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  Thank you. Yo, yo, yo yo well obviously, we
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  know where you are now, but if you wouldn't mind giving us,
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  what you want us to know about, where you've come from and where
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  you been sure. Yeah, I am sobs actually born
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  and raised in Louisville Kentucky.
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  About three hours south of Columbus came to the Ohio State
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  University as a student athlete. I was actually recruited as a
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  400 Hertz. I hate that race whatever.
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  I feel like you have to be a 400 degree of what you have to do
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  love that race. And so admittedly had a coaching
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  change during the the person that recruited me left.
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  And while I missed her a Candy Young, it was an opportunity for
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  me to slide over to the to the long, jump pit.
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  So I took it. I took it.
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  Opportunity just like, I know, you know.
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  So she's not here. I'm just gonna go over there and
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  so had a had a brief stint as a. If you heard on your loans
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  known, you know how that goes. We try to make you more but have
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  you seen me? I can't I can't my life so, you
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  know, ended up just just in the long and the trip.
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  And some relays that the short relay that is as a
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  student-athlete at the Ohio, State University finished my
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  last competition year, and 05, 2005 graduate in 2006, and
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  thought I was gonna be a teacher.
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  That was the plan, teach third grade had an opportunity had a
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  coach that told me, you know, hey, you want to go to Grad
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  School Auburn University, looking for a grad assistant,
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  you can still train. I took it and I just I went on a
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  whim. I tell the story now I had no
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  clue where Auburn University was.
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  I just I took it and you fly into Atlanta and I thought I can
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  live in Atlanta. You know, it was great.
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  I think so Ralph's prize first person that hired me and you
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  know, treated me like family. I went there as a cinch.
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  It was a ga position but they only had five full-time coaches
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  at the time. So I was actually able to they
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  put me work doing everything. A six full-time coach would do
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  for frying about a fourth of the peso, right?
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  I will do that in this port, for sure.
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  Oh yeah. You know.
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  But I and I hadn't, I didn't know any better.
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  So I thought it was great. The experience it, and no sure
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  coach. I love to learn care logs.
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  And I mean, I thought, wow, they really trust me.
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  I was there for two years during that time, we'll have statehood.
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  Actually, it was a combined program when I was a student
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  athlete, it had split during my time at Auburn.
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  So Karen, this became the head coach for the women and she
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  called she saw me at Nationals said hey you know have position.
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  I need you to apply and you know if I'm honest and it should tell
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  the story sometime. Initially I told her no.
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  And I didn't know if I was ready, you know, all the doubts
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  that you have is probably a new professional, I just didn't
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  know. And so after the phone call
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  where I told her no that day I knew Karen isn't the hell of a
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  recruiter because I was packed my bags but ended up headed to
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  headed back to Columbus Ohio as the women's actually came in as
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  the women's field of it coach. So I had everything, throws
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  povel, all of it. All of it, you know.
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  But but you know, being able to really just have some great
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  mentors. Again, the staff at Auburn
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  supported me as well, I was able to call and get get information.
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  Jerry, Clayton was very good to me from a field event coach.
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  He's a heck of a filament coach and so, I call him say, I got a
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  guy Javelin thrower for help and he would, you know, send me the
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  video. What do you need?
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  What are you, what are you trying to do?
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  Do so really got got an opportunity to grow in the
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  profession and you know, I think what was important is that
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  probably everybody asked me just about every meat.
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  I went to. How'd you get that job?
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  How did you get that job? You know, the resume probably
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  wasn't what they thought it should be the experience you
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  know, whatever it is for a high-caliber job but I really
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  didn't look at it when I was a student athlete here.
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  So it was home. You know, I have a passion for
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  this place and so if someone's going to ask me to do anything,
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  I can do it. Well then I'm going to do it.
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  But to, you know, I learned then that it was a trust-based
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  business. And so, you know, for all the
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  accolades or the resume, or whatever it was, how did you get
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  this job was care. Trusted me.
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  And I didn't want to, you know, do anything to lose that trust.
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  And so really, that's how I work day in and day out.
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  You know, people say I'm Kara likes you but I worked as if
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  Karen's gonna fire me every day, every day.
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  I just never threatened you that but I had you know you have to
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  work that way and know that you know her success is ultimately
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  my success and vice versa so really just whatever needed to
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  be done. I did it.
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  You know whatever wasn't getting done that I thought needed to
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  get done. I did it.
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  And so you know, really just Didn't try to fill the gaps for,
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  you know, obviously someone who's a legendary coach and and,
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  you know, has all the accolades. I just wanted to support and
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  help and I think that that gets lost some time.
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  You know, when you have a vision for how you want your career to
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  be, you start off with the things you want to do, but you
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  have to be able to do the job. You're asked to do do and do it
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  well and so I started there. You know what it, I never did it
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  to be. The egg coach to be associate
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  coach. I was over there doing it for
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  free at the last place. I did it because I wanted to do,
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  you know a good job for the person that put their trust in
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  me. And so I went from women's
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  assistant, coach and 20 She's I know you're that was 2013 out of
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  the leave. They combined the program again
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  and gave Karen both programs. So combined men and women under
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  care and dentists and was was elevated to associate head coach
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  for the men and women and just, you know, kept when and kept
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  doing on the things that needed to be done.
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  And so sick of ten years with with Karen and the program, it
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  really just Just probably knew it was time to grow a little
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  bit, you know, as much as I obviously I'm happy here, I
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  wasn't looking to leave, you know, Karen would tell me that
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  if we don't, if we don't moved and the coaching tree doesn't
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  grow so if everything that she teaching is all in one place and
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  you know, it stays in one place and so got a phone call had an
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  opportunity has many reviews that I didn't get when, were you
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  think you want to be? And Got a phone call of
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  somewhere. I didn't know I needed to be and
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  kind of took the leap of faith that at Southern Illinois, as
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  director for men and women, track and field.
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  And cross country. There was there for four years
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  during that program, I tell you what coaching being a head coach
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  during covid. And the first time head coach, I
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  got more resume experience and more gray hairs than I ever
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  knew. But you know what?
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  I was fortunate to be in a place that you know they supported me
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  and gave me the opportunity and again just wants to do a good
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  job and so the plan or the goal to be honest was was not then
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  come back. I tell everybody I thought that
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  I wanted sold my house the first time, you know, I moved on to
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  grow and so to get a call from Jean Smith recently, you know,
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  saying hey I had mean with Karen We need to talk, you know, I
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  asked you okay? Like, I just want to make sure
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  you know, why are you calling me.
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  And so you know that that for me was really just a blessing to be
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  able to have someone trust me with with a program of this
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  stature. But at the same time, this is
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  second home for me. So again as a student athlete
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  and a coach of spent fifteen, 15 years here.
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  So this is, this is home and and, you know, I had anybody and
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  I tell the team that has anybody in here whatever you've done.
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  I've done it first right in a better.
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  And, you know, and I want to see it continue to grow.
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  So no one's going to have probably a bigger passion for
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  the Ohio State University than that.
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  Then I would do Brad thinks he does, but he done by that's
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  fine. He and I we go back and forth,
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  he's we were actually teammates together.
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  So we have really almost a brother and sister relationship.
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  So I said, I know Joel, since I was 18 years old, I know him
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  since he was he's older and they should be know that that's what
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  he was about 20 going on 18, but you know, we watch each other
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  grow just as people in the profession, you know, we know
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  each other Our spouses, our children.
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  And so, that probably makes it even more special to just see
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  that. That was never a conversation.
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  We had in his teammates about being coaches being coaches at
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  our alma mater. So, you know that, that makes it
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  even more special to share that. Well, I absolutely love hearing
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  your story and I see a Common Thread, you know?
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  And having been through sir lucious's coaching tree and you
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  know, and and experiencing that experience and then going on to
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  Florida State, the Common Thread I'm sensing right there, is that
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  if you were not getting paid, I paid for it, would you still do
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  it? And it's something that's lost
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  on coaches today. That the amount of love that you
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  have to have for your craft amount of love that you have to
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  have for helping young people. You know, helping them develop
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  as men and women. If you could if you can't do
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  this job for free, then, You probably going to have a very,
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  very hard time. Yeah, no, get in it for the
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  money. That's exactly.
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  Exactly. And I don't think it matters
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  what level you're at because even at the highest level mean
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  that dedication to your craft that dedication to your athletes
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  and, you know, the time and energy that spent just trying to
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  get these kids to motivate them, to keep them going.
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  And God knows mean there's So much more.
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  That's it's seeping into our sport now that you're adding
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  layers to. Yeah.
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  Just getting them to the line now, you know.
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  Yeah, so yeah, I appreciate your story.
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  I want to know, you know, were you able to spend time with Gene
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  Smith before you let you moved on to Southern Illinois and what
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  kind of advice did he give you? No, yes I did.
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  You know I made that call with PNR our sport ad at the time.
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  Really just asking career advice.
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  You know when you're hiring, you know, what are you looking for
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  what, you know, what makes a good head coaches coach and a
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  lot of my questions were because I wanted to be successful when I
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  left, right? You want to come back?
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  It was for when I leave her how to, you know, someone who's
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  who's a giant and and just really like he is, you know,
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  what are you looking for? How do people Elevate, you know
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  what, why are people hired? Why are they fired?
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  You know, things like that and I think during that conversation
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  probably did help him realize that, you know, I thought about
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  it more than just, you know, being an assistant.
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  I really thought about the industry, how I can grow and and
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  in that conversation, you know, he he let me know that, you
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  know, where everything You go. If you leave and you done a good
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  job, you you remain an internal candidate and so I took it as a
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  hit but I didn't take it as a hand.
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  So my house, you know, I think just you know, just just to know
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  that in leaving wherever I was going to go, he made the comment
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  that I had left an impression on that program and and more
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  importantly, What? You know, Karen told me I had to
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  go. And so, you know, she joked that
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  anyone that you feel like we're comfortable work.
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  Well, together, I had some success, but again, it was the
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  next step for me too. So to have her and him say you
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  have to do this. You know, I I loved my time at
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  Southern Illinois, but I called a d-bag almost in tears saying
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  I'm coming, you know, because and he understood, you know, but
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  what I appreciate for him at the And as well as, you know,
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  demand, even as a white male. He he knew that you're not going
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  to get a lot of these calls unfortunately and so I want to
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  give you this opportunity because I, you know, I've done
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  the research, you know, he we have some common mentors and
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  people that he knew and so I had to take that as well as as a
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  head that there's not a lot of babies that are going to just
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  try Rust and young black female with their, with their men and
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  women's programs. And so, you know, I couldn't
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  pass that up because I didn't know if they come up again and
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  so that was you know, to be able to have that candid conversation
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  was nice because it's something you thinking about and you're
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  wondering you know, he he you're good he told me then that the 88
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  Southern told me then. Just let me call you back one
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  day and I'll be happy for you. But this is where you can come
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  and I'll support you. So you can grow.
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  And so to have really everyone around me, tell me you have to
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  do this. I mean, cares, last words to me.
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  Were you got to take it or I'm going to fire you so you don't
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  have a job. Okay.
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  I'm coming, I get it but because again, that that growth can be
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  uncomfortable and it can be scary.
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  But, you know, I think that a lot of people saying you're
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  ready You need to do this. It was it was motivating, it was
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  scary but it was motivating. So Jean Smith had you know those
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  words for me is as well as pretty much.
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  I mean everybody that I talk to no one could tell me not to go
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  because of the opportunity to present it.
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  But also the conversation with him meant that it presented an
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  opportunity from We have experience to possibly come back
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  one day, and that was huge. I want everybody to be tuned in
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  from the beginning of this. I hope everybody heard how
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  dedicated you were to being a great assistant coach and that
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  your charge wasn't to be the head coach was to be a great
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  assistant coach because, you know, that was my, my mantras.
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  Well, I was just trying to be a great assistant coach and it
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  grew into what a grew into and so, you know, kudos to you and
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  kudos to those around you. Was fine enough to see what you
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  were doing and Elevate you in the sport.
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  Also, you know, big props to route for give you that
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  opportunity but out of college as well.
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  So my question is, I know you guys have had no pretty good
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  history, but I know from even talking to Karen and talking to
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  Joel a little bit before there's a I would say.
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  I want to be better at the national level.
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  So what do you think you guys have to do to get to be more of
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  a prominent Force at the national level?
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  Because I feel like I feel like you taking notes on me now.
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  I know you better than most right.
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  Karen shared. A lot of work to me about you,
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  doing your growth. And so, I just want people to
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  see that, you're not just throwing paint at the wall,
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  hoping it sticks that you have a plan.
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  I don't look out any specifics because if you ask me some
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  questions I want to use specific.
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  See the right? So we can I mean you know the
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  the sport it is it is what it is on the men's side.
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  You know. I've recruited some Great track
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  and field athletes that are playing on Sunday and they
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  didn't choose to play on Sunday because that's where the money
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  is, you know, but at the same time, I'm if we can get to a
• 26:02
  point where we're investing in the men, where they feel like
• 26:07
  this is is an opportunity post-college.
• 26:12
  Then you can get some of the best men nationally.
• 26:15
  And I don't I don't see why Ohio State can't be a top five
• 26:19
  national team and then the way my mind kind of works and we
• 26:22
  going to be Five walking beat up three and we came.
• 26:25
  We gonna be top of the reason. I mean that's just where we are.
• 26:29
  And so, you know, I've already passed the staff with that in
• 26:32
  the recruiting is that if we're gonna build as they say build,
• 26:39
  you know, we're not going to start with top 25.
• 26:42
  Why? Let's get the best in the
• 26:44
  country in the world and, you know, start moving in.
• 26:48
  Now there's some, there's some risk to that but the men side
• 26:52
  Died when they're hitting the hitting it, they not hidden
• 26:57
  moving along season. But, you know, I just think that
• 27:00
  there's an opportunity to do that here.
• 27:02
  And then with the women, there's there's the depth and, you know,
• 27:05
  I enjoyed the opportunity to grow women in the sport in
• 27:10
  general. So where sometimes the menu,
• 27:15
  just find the best athletes and just as you meant generally, get
• 27:20
  them to the line. But for the women is really You
• 27:22
  know, a lot that you can do with some numbers and help them grow
• 27:26
  in the sport and have a, have a national caliber team as well.
• 27:31
  So I think to answer your coat your question code, you know, we
• 27:36
  started to look at it differently, / gender and I
• 27:40
  think, you know that that how its structured it even has been
• 27:45
  different than when I was here before and I'm trying to be more
• 27:49
  focused and more individualized with genders.
• 27:52
  Specific with the Sprint's group is been our bread and butter.
• 27:56
  I mean, that's no secret. You know, I'm a jumps multi
• 27:59
  coach but I'm at the meat, I can tell you the points.
• 28:03
  I know how it works. And so how can we focus there
• 28:06
  and have a team or have a staff that understands that this is
• 28:11
  you know this is what we got to do to be National caliber and if
• 28:16
  the events that we're investing in when we all are win so I mean
• 28:20
  throws coach the to go see it. A, or her learning this.
• 28:26
  This is what we gotta do and then other women, how can we
• 28:29
  find, you know, I don't want to call them the diamond in the
• 28:32
  rough, but there are a lot of women who don't know, like that
• 28:36
  was, I was recruited as a 400 hurler and I probably would have
• 28:39
  been awful at it or not as, you know, long time.
• 28:43
  I heard that I just I just you know, because I was going to be
• 28:47
  made into a foreigner. No.
• 28:48
  But if we can find the passion and figure out, you know, where
• 28:51
  the growth needs to be and get the the right women, you know,
• 28:55
  in Right events at the right time, then we have opportunity
• 28:59
  to really create a special team. So I mean, yeah, not just
• 29:05
  throwing stuff at the wall. I think the goal right now
• 29:08
  though is to elevate the men, nationally to build some
• 29:13
  confidence there with the program when you're at a place
• 29:19
  like Ohio, State and football sounds like they're, you know,
• 29:22
  the dominant Force. But what I enjoy about state His
• 29:26
  there's 36 Sports and that everyday motivates me because
• 29:31
  wrestling is good. Fencing is good, swimming diving
• 29:35
  is good, rifle is good. Good.
• 29:39
  And you don't want to be the scrubs work, you don't want to
• 29:41
  be the sport where they say, no, well, are you as good as
• 29:44
  fencing? I want to say yes.
• 29:47
  And so I think, you know, even the recruiting strategy that we
• 29:50
  can use with other or from other sports has been helpful as well.
• 29:55
  So we're yeah. Really have kind of focused on
• 29:58
  how we can Elevate them in finding just finding the guys
• 30:02
  that are ready to be here and win nationally.
• 30:06
  Again, I like the development piece but they're not whole lot
• 30:11
  of time for that when, you know, trying to win trying to win
• 30:13
  early. So we only get Contract
• 30:15
  extensions is the resume proves you deserve Urban.
• 30:20
  So it's some point, you know, we can't wait till till the end of
• 30:22
  it. And start talking about what the
• 30:24
  plan is. We had a guest car now, What's
• 30:30
  that? Welcome quiet.
• 30:35
  Are you doing? I'm sorry for my tardiness.
• 30:42
  Okay. You forgive you sir.
• 30:44
  Got hit with that Bay Area traffic.
• 30:46
  Hey listen it was Warriors Warriors opening the season.
• 30:53
  I don't know what's going on and they're open the season against
• 30:57
  the Lakers and getting the Rings tonight.
• 31:00
  Everybody's outside today. Mariano or Clyde you have a
• 31:09
  question or you bring the light. I had a few but I hope I'm
• 31:14
  probably, they probably got repeated almost gonna throw out
• 31:16
  there. If it's already been asked you
• 31:19
  know, Miss Ross. It's not often.
• 31:25
  Young coaches are in a position to replace Legends.
• 31:29
  Do you feel the pressure of that?
• 31:32
  What is, what is it too? What does it mean to you to you
• 31:36
  know follow the great Carrington.
• 31:39
  No I absolutely. I mean you know I think that if
• 31:43
  you don't recognize that then you probably should be in the
• 31:45
  seat because that's unseats hot. It's hot, you know but I think
• 31:51
  again if This wasn't my alma mater.
• 31:55
  If it wasn't a place that, you know, I felt really entrenched
• 31:59
  in what you know, what we can do.
• 32:02
  If I hadn't had the opportunity to see how she's done it and you
• 32:05
  know feel like some things that have rubbed off on me then I
• 32:10
  would probably feel less confident but you know really
• 32:16
  internally you get the call and it sounds sounds exciting.
• 32:20
  And you do you do a lot of like, okay.
• 32:23
  I don't know, you know how, I don't know but you know it
• 32:27
  really. It was, it was my husband's.
• 32:29
  I will anybody ID in the country, don't have to replace a
• 32:33
  legend? Anybody they're coming in.
• 32:34
  We had to replace her. And so it's going to be hard for
• 32:39
  anybody coming in and so why not?
• 32:41
  You, you know why not you? And I think, you know, again,
• 32:45
  just just really the offending me.
• 32:47
  I have for this place, made it one where it's not a It's not
• 32:53
  really daunting because, you know, I know that I'm going to
• 32:58
  do my best and I know that she's supportive again.
• 33:04
  I've seen the formula and it's just something that somebody has
• 33:08
  to do it. And so I work, I work.
• 33:09
  Well under pressure that's that's how prefers I'm more of a
• 33:13
  six jump type of Jumper. Good one.
• 33:23
  For, for you, Rises a little more personal only because I've
• 33:26
  had the joy of actually standing next to you for four or five
• 33:30
  hours at a time. And, and look, right.
• 33:33
  I used to call rasa Silent Assassin, right?
• 33:36
  She would just all of a sudden, rise of standing there.
• 33:39
  I was like, never heard her coach show up, he coaches, our
• 33:42
  kids, and it seems like it's so my question for you is, have
• 33:48
  you, have you found that you kind of have to be A little more
• 33:53
  outside of yourself and a little more boisterous.
• 33:55
  Now that you are lead dog of the pack, so to speak.
• 33:59
  Yeah, it definitely it was something I'd say the last.
• 34:05
  Probably two years before taking this scenario, the Southern
• 34:08
  Illinois job that I realized, you know, if somebody had to
• 34:11
  work on because I do, I keep my head down and work, you know,
• 34:15
  and I kind of look upstairs. Okay, four by four, Okay.
• 34:21
  Especially again, I was a field coach.
• 34:23
  So you know, so we if I was gone I was probably going to the next
• 34:28
  coach's box. Oh yeah, I always laugh when
• 34:31
  people talk about what the food was it, the coaches Hospitality.
• 34:34
  I'm like, never eaten that. I love that.
• 34:37
  Bring my little turkey sandwich. And, you know, call it a day.
• 34:40
  First first, bus out last bus to leave always every time.
• 34:44
  You know, you know, I just, I mean there's some things there
• 34:48
  that I think. I knew, yes, I'd have to do in a
• 34:52
  lot of it, to be honest. It's just This is the
• 34:57
  development because everyone wants to know and I don't want
• 34:59
  it to seem like, it's a secret, or, or that I'm incompetent, or
• 35:02
  that I'm hiding anything. I just, I just like to keep my
• 35:05
  head down and work, but I think that people internally around
• 35:09
  me, no, you know, day in and day out.
• 35:12
  And so I'm kind of introverted extroverted or extrovert and
• 35:16
  introvert have that works. So this, I say a lot some days,
• 35:21
  and some days that hey, you know, we know that The task,
• 35:25
  let's get to work. So I am working on that trying
• 35:30
  to be, you know, trying to be more visible if you will, but
• 35:34
  I'm also trying to stay true to myself.
• 35:37
  And, you know, I think that if I spread myself in a way that
• 35:41
  probably too uncomfortable than it, make come off of, you know,
• 35:45
  not authentic. And so I'm very mindful is that
• 35:48
  of that as well. And that I try not to just hop
• 35:53
  in things to say, I'm I'm here. You know, just try to get in
• 35:57
  touch what I'm trying to do, they align with the goals, and
• 36:01
  they make sense, and then be strategic and those things.
• 36:04
  So it's something I'm proud, I'm definitely more aware of now
• 36:08
  that I'm in the sea before I would have said, absolutely not.
• 36:11
  Not doing interviews. You know.
• 36:23
  All right. Okay.
• 36:28
  But now, I think at some point you gotta you gotta stay true to
• 36:30
  who you are. We are very appreciative of the
• 36:33
  fact that you chose us to Grant immunity actually, the timing is
• 36:40
  what works out because this is this is actually my this is a
• 36:43
  good time for me, so right? I know most people might say
• 36:47
  10:30 but this day is my working hours.
• 36:52
  So I'm curious to know how you juxtaposition juxtaposed your,
• 37:00
  your career up until Southern Illinois.
• 37:04
  Being a servant being someone that's, you know, just killing
• 37:10
  it hours and hours and hours, you know?
• 37:12
  And to dedicating yourself and juxtaposing that with, okay,
• 37:17
  you're the boss now and not only are You The Boss, the boss at
• 37:21
  one of the Track and field programs in the country, right?
• 37:28
  One of the one of the most recognized programs in the
• 37:31
  country, so it's no longer a situation where, you know, you
• 37:36
  can hide behind the Great Wall of care.
• 37:39
  And Dennis, you're walking into that room as a representative of
• 37:44
  all the Ohio State. And, you know, I'm curious in to
• 37:49
  see, you know, it's been mean you were announced in July
• 37:52
  Correct, the LIE. Middle June?
• 37:59
  Yes. Oh so you've had a couple months
• 38:01
  now you're in the seat? Is there a moment you know, in
• 38:06
  the last couple months where's just kind of just hit you that
• 38:10
  this is real like I need to really understand.
• 38:15
  I need to respect where I'm at and you know and going forward.
• 38:21
  I mean how do you plan to you know?
• 38:25
  Use your voice because believe me, you now have a very, very
• 38:30
  powerful voice in our sport, you know.
• 38:33
  So tell us a little bit about that.
• 38:36
  Yeah, I, you know, I'm I'm for whether it's good or not, I
• 38:42
  definitely, I am working on delegating, you know, and that's
• 38:47
  what I've learned to do, and it had to do at southerly, you
• 38:52
  know, being in that seat, help me With some of the things that
• 38:56
  you can't do it all. And so really just being able to
• 38:59
  trust and delegate the things that maybe I was most
• 39:03
  comfortable doing and so that I can then step out into some
• 39:08
  other areas that it wasn't that I was not comfortable.
• 39:12
  That that was not my that was not my role.
• 39:14
  That was not the assignment. That was not what I was supposed
• 39:18
  to do and so I didn't but you know, I understand there's
• 39:22
  things now that you just have to do in this role.
• 39:26
  And so a lot of what I do is I'm probably a better listener than
• 39:31
  I am a talker. I like to write more than I like
• 39:35
  to just speak and you know that goes back to the authentic self
• 39:40
  is there's going to be some things that I have to create
• 39:44
  ways to be visible and be able Use my voice but that it
• 39:49
  showcases Who I Am the things that are important to me and how
• 39:53
  I delegate to either staff or the people around me.
• 39:57
  So that you know, really, it's not it's not my Program, you
• 40:02
  know, and I tell that to anybody asked me, I'd be alone but the
• 40:06
  current student athletes the staff.
• 40:08
  These are not our kids, a lot of them, you know, they're not, our
• 40:13
  kids is not my program. It's our program and so, you
• 40:17
  know, there's things that I realized I'm gonna get the last
• 40:20
  call. And, you know, the thing where
• 40:22
  leadership is everybody wants to take the credit, but you got to
• 40:27
  be ready to take the blame and I'm okay with that.
• 40:30
  You know, I'm okay with that because Of the people that I
• 40:34
  feel are around me, the people I've put in plan, making some
• 40:38
  strategic about those things. Behind the scenes, you know,
• 40:41
  behind the scenes. That's that's things that
• 40:44
  probably are not as visible. But if someone can ask me for,
• 40:47
  why are you doing this way? Or how come you haven't done it
• 40:50
  or when are you going to do this?
• 40:52
  You know, I can answer, I can answer that.
• 40:54
  Here's here's what the plan is, here's what we're trying to do,
• 40:57
  but I think ultimately, you just want to get to a point where
• 41:01
  you're not. Not, you know, you're out there
• 41:04
  and you're using your voice. But it's, it's for the benefit
• 41:07
  of the program for the student athletes that are their student
• 41:09
  athletes that are coming through because I am and the seated it
• 41:13
  is theirs. I've already it's really not
• 41:18
  another job in the country that is as good as this one for me.
• 41:22
  And so, what that means is the people that are my assistant,
• 41:28
  coaches, my head coaches, my goal is for them too.
• 41:31
  Become head coaches. The people that are student
• 41:34
  athletes here for to move them on.
• 41:36
  Like, so now my platform is not really bad.
• 41:41
  Better men of me was, how can I Elevate the people that come
• 41:44
  through here, and the nature of the story, you know, they're
• 41:46
  your best recruiters and that's tough.
• 41:48
  When you think about my, how can I keep everything in and Elevate
• 41:51
  myself and Elevate, you know, the Ohio State University.
• 41:55
  But you actually do a better job if you can send people out and
• 41:58
  showcase how you build and how you mold people.
• 42:03
  Again, that's not just student athlete.
• 42:04
  So, I don't know. I think the voice is good and I
• 42:10
  know I got to work on And I know, but again, it goes back to
• 42:15
  sometimes, it's like to put my head down and work and the
• 42:18
  results, you know, I'm waiting for her coaches to get paid
• 42:22
  coach's job for national champion.
• 42:25
  Bishop, sorry, Mouse. I'm waiting, you know, waiting
• 42:28
  for that to be the indicator of what we're doing here, okay?
• 42:33
  That's actually really well setting it, it led me to my
• 42:36
  other question that I hoped has not already been asked.
• 42:41
  So, For reasons that, you know, I always struggle to comprehend
• 42:50
  the Ascension of, you know, quality female coaches like
• 42:56
  yourselves in. This business is often difficult
• 43:00
  to see through. What do you believe, you know,
• 43:06
  we all can do to not just keep The Talented women in the
• 43:10
  profession but continue to Help everybody rise without people
• 43:16
  feeling like it's a threat to their situations.
• 43:20
  And ya know I if I had to answer that
• 43:34
  by the people that have hired me and they just supported me.
• 43:40
  And and I think and you usually hear this Do you hear this?
• 43:43
  With most women in the sport is? You don't know if you don't have
• 43:48
  to choose fan, Emily over the business.
• 43:52
  You don't know if, you know, working hard, it's going to be
• 43:54
  seen as a weakness. If you have a family, are you on
• 44:01
  the road or you know what qualities?
• 44:03
  Do you bring that are Beyond X's and O's?
• 44:06
  And and so I think I just had the benefit of having head
• 44:11
  coaches. That hired me.
• 44:12
  Me that saw that I was, I was working.
• 44:16
  So, it may have looked different than what they're used to.
• 44:19
  I'm not in the, you know, at when I went to Auburn it was,
• 44:24
  you know, it was five men coaches.
• 44:27
  So, me, the lunches were, you know, they did a good job of
• 44:32
  trying to include me, but they're just things that I just
• 44:35
  didn't wear one. That Dad order woman's gear.
• 44:38
  I mean, they're just things that they just hadn't had to think
• 44:40
  about, you know, we talked about And so, you know, there's
• 44:44
  there's just things that it, unless you're aware, that that's
• 44:48
  something that is uncomfortable for me as an assistant to even
• 44:53
  bring up because I think is gonna be a weakness, right?
• 44:56
  I'll just take the small shirt. I look crazy and pictures, it's
• 45:00
  fine. But, you know, but it takes
• 45:04
  someone to say, you know, hey, do you want a woman's?
• 45:09
  You know, is this something because then you feel empowered
• 45:11
  in your role and you feeling Portent.
• 45:13
  You feel like you're seeing and you feel like, then the other
• 45:16
  qualities that I know, I bring to the student-athletes the
• 45:19
  sport, have a platform to be heard, but if I gotta come and
• 45:23
  decide what I want to come, talk to you about a recruit for my
• 45:26
  clothing, then if I'm shut down, I either bring you nothing for
• 45:31
  hear me out. Or I bring you everything all at
• 45:34
  once and and we get a bad rap for that as women because we're
• 45:39
  holding it in. And so, you know, I just had an
• 45:41
  opportunity to have Head coaches.
• 45:44
  That were at least check on me. Wait, what do you need?
• 45:48
  Because then again get me. An outlet is actually my kids
• 45:53
  birthday. I need the day off.
• 45:55
  You know and and and it's little things like that that I just
• 46:00
  don't know if women feel like they can ask for things without
• 46:05
  seeming. Like it's it's it's a sign of
• 46:08
  weakness in the profession and and I just had coaches and it
• 46:12
  just didn't In a great job of that.
• 46:14
  You know, when I was pregnant with my first, child care would
• 46:18
  come in the office. Turn the lights off, tell me
• 46:20
  gone. And so I I mean you go home and
• 46:25
  and really I was only there because I didn't want her to
• 46:28
  think that I was pregnant. You know.
• 46:32
  You know that I couldn't I couldn't be at work.
• 46:35
  We actually work on the second state floor.
• 46:37
  All stares at me. I'm like that's a decision.
• 46:44
  No, but I was coming. I'm here and I'm coming up.
• 46:47
  Have you? I gotta break halfway up the
• 46:49
  stairs. But I'm I'm going to get there
• 46:52
  because I want you to know that this isn't going to history.
• 46:55
  Hinder my work and just to be able to have someone say it's
• 47:00
  okay. I don't think that about you
• 47:03
  gave me confidence really did continue in the sport so I just
• 47:06
  don't know if we have enough examples to see that to know how
• 47:12
  to maneuver it. It and things like that.
• 47:14
  I swear, I'm very open with the fact.
• 47:16
  I don't know if people know I have children, but I have to me,
• 47:20
  I but I got a lot of kids children and so, you know, it's
• 47:26
  like it. Huh?
• 47:29
  But, you know, I like to make that clear because I think that
• 47:33
  when you do look at the role and I think that goes back to the
• 47:35
  earlier question thinking that, well, you have to be a certain
• 47:39
  way and have a certain voice and, you know, you can just
• 47:41
  model certain things. Is that that gives people women
• 47:46
  in the sport and opportunity to grow and feel like hope.
• 47:49
  You know I I was told not in your one that I would probably
• 47:53
  have to make a decision. Do I want to coach the old
• 47:55
  saying no one coach or who don't want to be a mom?
• 47:58
  I mean you're one and so had I thought that that was the path
• 48:04
  for women in the sport. I probably would have got out.
• 48:09
  Yeah, I mean it's so So you know to have a-you know care, who is
• 48:15
  a mom. They like, we talked about, I
• 48:19
  didn't know that was a thing. You know, when I went to Auburn
• 48:22
  Ralph's pry, his daughter was on the team.
• 48:25
  So, you know, you know, just gave a different feel about what
• 48:29
  it meant to be in the profession, and still be a
• 48:32
  parent. And I just, I got to see that
• 48:35
  early on and I just don't know if it's mild a lot for women, or
• 48:40
  at least talked about from men, as well.
• 48:42
  So that they know. Okay, I get it.
• 48:45
  You know? I was like, I'm a dad.
• 48:47
  Yeah, there they have a mom but I'm a dad, I have
• 48:49
  responsibilities too and I'm still doing a good job.
• 48:53
  So I I wish I had the exact answer, but I can tell you that
• 48:57
  the people that I work for, you know, they did a good job in
• 49:00
  trying to make sure that working home were were a good balance
• 49:05
  because I think women, we we get guilty for feel guilty about
• 49:09
  having to choose one of the other and Profession is the one
• 49:14
  that goes. Well, that was actually going to
• 49:20
  be my question. So good job by somebody's gonna
• 49:25
  steal it. So I was going to let it be like
• 49:28
  the closer, you know, I wanted to hear and you any touched on
• 49:42
  it about being a director and Being a mom and being a female,
• 49:47
  you know, and that it's again you know, we use the word
• 49:50
  balance. That's not the right word we use
• 49:53
  were juggling. It's not the right word because
• 49:54
  we're not at any point. Just throwing balls in the air.
• 49:57
  We literally it all strategic and you highlighted that very
• 50:01
  well very well so thank you very much.
• 50:05
  Well it definitely, thank you for your time and as a problem,
• 50:09
  closing hours for you go enjoy at least 15 minutes to yourself.
• 50:15
  We wish you all the luck going forward heading into, you know,
• 50:18
  wrapping up cross going into indoor going into outdoor.
• 50:22
  We will all definitely see you sooner than later, for sure, for
• 50:24
  sure. But um, thank you again.
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  Thank you for being you. Congratulations on the role and
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  thank you, see you soon. Thank you now.
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  I appreciate you having me. Thank you.
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  Thank you very much. Bye, have a good night.
• 50:45
  That was good. That was good stuff.
• 50:47
  So, okay, I gotta say this because I think it's funny.
• 50:51
  I knew Ross had one kid. I didn't know she had three.
• 50:55
  And I coached in the conference, with her, for six years, five
• 50:59
  years. Wow.
• 51:01
  Well, I had no idea, she had no idea.
• 51:04
  She had three kids, so, that's awesome.
• 51:06
  Look, I'm basically said that though, right?
• 51:08
  Because she said, you know, not everybody knows I have kids and
• 51:11
  she's like, I got a lot of kids and I'm like, that's awesome.
• 51:14
  Yeah. Because look up obviously I'm
• 51:17
  not a mom. But I will say this from day one
• 51:21
  in the profession, I thought that that was one of those
• 51:23
  things that I was going to take on as a man and I was going to
• 51:28
  try to get as many other men as humanly possible to take on like
• 51:31
  that that thought is ridiculous. It's too because when I first
• 51:36
  came into the sport like I heard that said to us to a young
• 51:40
  female who was, you know, it just started coaching, you know,
• 51:44
  it's like you're going to have to choose between your career
• 51:46
  and having a family. I was like um, no, no, you
• 51:50
  don't. Now you can act look, it may
• 51:52
  look different for you, right? Like you may have to do some
• 51:55
  things that are a little For but that's that's the case.
• 51:58
  If you're black, that's the case.
• 52:00
  If you're left-handed like that's that you know, I mean
• 52:01
  like that's the case if you're Asian, you don't like you either
• 52:05
  have to do different things. I heard that said to a female
• 52:10
  who I did not know at the time at one of the conventions, I
• 52:13
  believe you Texas at the time. I just, you know, the dimensions
• 52:17
  everybody's kind of within an earshot of everything, right.
• 52:20
  And I heard that conversation I was like that is the most
• 52:23
  ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
• 52:25
  And when they broke that conversation I made it a point
• 52:28
  to just slide my way in and be like, hey, listen, that's a
• 52:31
  bunch of bullshit. Listen to that.
• 52:34
  I just, I don't understand why people throw that particular
• 52:39
  narrative at women as if like, every piece of that was wrong.
• 52:43
  Anyway. Well, you know, and that's just
• 52:45
  call a spade, a spade. The person is throwing that
• 52:47
  narrative is the person that's been feels inferior threatened
• 52:51
  by the feet. Mmm, it's easy or an easy call,
• 52:56
  and maybe, and maybe this is the same version of the word
• 52:59
  inferior that you're saying knows that.
• 53:04
  So let's say there are signal individual without family.
• 53:06
  Yet, I have to make this quote-unquote thread or like
• 53:10
  this pre-emptive pre-emptive phrase so that they don't go and
• 53:14
  do it. So I don't lose them.
• 53:16
  So I don't lose them to the whatever it might be.
• 53:20
  So the general struggle with different, right?
• 53:27
  Remember a couple years ago when the head women's basketball
• 53:30
  coach at Arizona was breastfeeding, Gets her daughter
• 53:34
  at halftime. Yeah, right.
• 53:36
  And it was a story. I was like, why is this story,
• 53:39
  right? But this is not a story, nor is
• 53:41
  it our business, right? Because like look, if you were a
• 53:45
  male coach, right? And you had a colostomy bag and
• 53:47
  you had to change it at halftime nobody supporting that.
• 53:51
  Yeah, right. It's what you have to do as part
• 53:54
  of your life but has nothing to do with your ability to, you
• 53:56
  know, call plays and run the triangle, right?
• 54:00
  So like I just thought that was insane.
• 54:03
  And I just look coaching is already.
• 54:10
  A profession that you have to do because you love it, even the
• 54:15
  crazy football coaches, that get paid all the money.
• 54:18
  You know what, you still have to do it because you love it
• 54:21
  because there's some point time it comes down to stuff that's
• 54:23
  just not monetary, yeah? Right.
• 54:26
  At some point to no matter who it is, it's some point time it
• 54:30
  comes down to stuff that's just not monetary.
• 54:32
  And so at the end of the day like like If somebody chooses
• 54:38
  The Honorable profession of being a coach be as supportive
• 54:42
  as humanly possible to them, when you're talking to them up,
• 54:46
  lift them support them. Because listen, that's just like
• 54:49
  somebody choosing it, say it tell you they want to go into
• 54:51
  the clergy. You understand that?
• 54:53
  That's like you got to give up things and this is going to be a
• 54:55
  life change. Well, you know what, it's, it's
• 54:58
  different but it's the same. When you decide to be a coach
• 55:00
  like you're giving up things and your family is going to be
• 55:04
  giving up things. Your significant other is going.
• 55:06
  Giving up things and your children are going to be giving
• 55:09
  up things in particular you, right?
• 55:13
  Like I said this to somebody one time because I was frustrated at
• 55:16
  you know, about something and I said, you know, I have spent
• 55:18
  more time. Raising other people's kids that
• 55:19
  I have my own. Hip.
• 55:23
  And that's a fact, right? That's not it.
• 55:27
  Listen, I could tell you this, right now, if you have a coach
• 55:32
  for 23 years, lucious is coach for much longer than that.
• 55:35
  If you, if you coach that long, you've raised several families.
• 55:39
  I was waiting for that reasons, right?
• 55:42
  You've raised generation much longer I wasn't How much is this
• 55:55
  guy posing? You've raised generation mean.
• 55:58
  I was giving up, you know, crops I wasn't, I wasn't calling you
• 56:01
  old. I'm just saying armies as some
• 56:09
  point at some point, the truth has to be told about the
• 56:13
  honorable profession of being a coach, is that you are like I
• 56:18
  told I told a mom and dad this one time.
• 56:23
  By the time this is when this is when they brought drop them off
• 56:26
  as a freshman and they came into my office and I said, listen,
• 56:29
  I'm gonna give you a fact. By the time that your son was a,
• 56:32
  he was a young man, but I'm your son graduation College.
• 56:35
  I'll probably know more about him than you do.
• 56:39
  Just because of where I'm at. Right.
• 56:42
  It's proximal, right? Not to mention that, you know,
• 56:45
  young men struggled to talk to their parents anyway but they'll
• 56:48
  tell their coach everything. Yeah.
• 56:50
  Right. Just be there sometimes I wish I
• 56:51
  wasn't sure. Cause I was like, I don't want
• 56:53
  to know that I'm supposedly. I gotta deal with it, right.
• 56:56
  I got, you know, I became a first responder one time because
• 57:02
  young lady came off as in like, had to tell me stuff.
• 57:04
  And I was like, alright, so now I gotta call the cops and I got
• 57:08
  to do this and I could do that, right?
• 57:10
  But at the end of the Like, when you choose to be a coach, like,
• 57:14
  you know, all that going in like you're going to be a
• 57:17
  psychiatrist. Yeah, I'm going to be a
• 57:19
  philosopher. You're going to be a, you know,
• 57:23
  you're going to be a low-key physio, right?
• 57:28
  Thank you. Like you you're gonna be like 50
• 57:31
  different things to most of your student athletes and you.
• 57:35
  Nobody's going to give you credit for any of it.
• 57:38
  Just going to ask you how fast they run.
• 57:39
  How far to the jump. Do you know what coach?
• 57:45
  Give me a hug. Give her a hug because they're
• 57:47
  doing it. They're doing God's work?
• 57:50
  Yeah, well good. No, go ahead, go ahead.
• 57:56
  No, I was about to say, I mean, my last thing I'm Rosalyn is
• 57:59
  that her story? Is the typical young black woman
• 58:10
  trying to find a way in a sport gets thrown into the ocean at
• 58:14
  Auburn, right? And in all seriousness, that
• 58:20
  could have determined her career.
• 58:23
  That was that moment where she's in new surroundings, took a left
• 58:27
  turn and at the Atlanta airport, right?
• 58:32
  Ends up in Auburn. And it turns out That she had
• 58:35
  the right mentors and she had the right people around her to
• 58:40
  keep her going, you know? And that pretty much determined
• 58:45
  her Ascent of the ladder, and then to have people sit her down
• 58:50
  and tell her hey you have got to go.
• 58:53
  That that is lacking in our sport in my opinion, you know?
• 58:58
  Because you know and I'm sure sir Lucius can speak to this
• 59:02
  because how many young men and young women has.
• 59:05
  He had to sit down and say hey it's time to spread your wings
• 59:09
  young, man. It's time to spread your wings,
• 59:11
  young lady. Sorry.
• 59:13
  I'm just telling you you do you probably you probably don't want
• 59:16
  to hear this right now but it's time to go you know,
• 59:21
  conversation it is Really. So yeah.
• 59:25
  I mean that, that was, you know, I enjoyed hearing that story and
• 59:29
  it needs to be told more and more, especially for the younger
• 59:33
  coaches out there because at some point you got to get
• 59:37
  comfortable with being uncomfortable.
• 59:39
  You have to. Yeah, I mean, can you imagine no
• 59:41
  one what we know? Can you imagine your first job
• 59:43
  out of college is in the SEC? Think about it.
• 59:48
  Think right? That's a blessing and a curse
• 59:49
  for sure with with just, a man just means more, right.
• 59:53
  Clyde Do you say all right, what you got for us
• 1:00:20
  to well, you know, in the last however long this time exert a
• 1:00:24
  Time duration was we talked about the development of a new
• 1:00:26
  coach. Ouch, let's change the lane a
• 1:00:29
  moment there and talk about, you know, how important in the
• 1:00:33
  development of an athlete, how important is the trust Factor?
• 1:00:38
  Who I don't know that there is anything bigger.
• 1:00:42
  Yeah, you know, and it's a two-sided coin, you know, the
• 1:00:49
  athlete trust in the coast to coast to us in the athlete.
• 1:00:53
  And I think that that's something that, you know, we
• 1:00:55
  have T-shirts, that should say trust the process, right?
• 1:00:59
  And you know, I don't, I don't know without the the trust
• 1:01:03
  Factor how you ever become great at anything but especially When
• 1:01:07
  you talk about Athletics, if you got an athlete, this coming to
• 1:01:10
  practice every day that trust you, or if you're a coach goes
• 1:01:14
  activity, not trust the athlete. You are going to fail and fail
• 1:01:17
  miserably Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:01:20
  What's funny as I feel like sometimes trust is hardest for
• 1:01:29
  this generation because of this thing, right?
• 1:01:37
  They they have grown up being able to in their opinion, always
• 1:01:43
  have every single answer right here, right.
• 1:01:46
  If you got a question right? You don't have to go on a
• 1:01:49
  journey or quest to find out the answer, right?
• 1:01:53
  And and learn all the Things you learn from that Journey.
• 1:01:55
  You also know, don't have to trust someone's words and follow
• 1:01:59
  blindly, because that's what I had when I went to college, what
• 1:02:02
  they have is hey Siri how do I get fast?
• 1:02:07
  Right? And, and Syria will give an
• 1:02:09
  answer. Yeah, it's wrong.
• 1:02:12
  But it'll give one right and so I I couldn't agree more.
• 1:02:17
  That I think trust is insanely important may be nothing more
• 1:02:21
  important at all, but I think the The generation were dealing
• 1:02:25
  with now has the hardest time with it.
• 1:02:28
  Yes was saying I think the bigger problem is not so much
• 1:02:31
  the phone it's not so much I shouldn't say type of phone.
• 1:02:35
  It's not so much a Serie its social media.
• 1:02:38
  Yes, right. Yeah.
• 1:02:39
  You know so you look on you know, you're doing repeat
• 1:02:42
  whatever today and they're doing repeat whatever sedae, why
• 1:02:46
  aren't we doing that? And my response is like, so
• 1:02:50
  maybe you should ask them. Why are they doing what we're
• 1:02:53
  doing? Right.
• 1:02:55
  But because they're doing something that's perceived to be
• 1:02:58
  easier. You know, are perceived to be
• 1:03:00
  more fun and then you have the person your backs like I want to
• 1:03:03
  do what they're doing. And so social media is the
• 1:03:06
  absolute. It's and you know it's the band
• 1:03:11
  of alteration and you know, comparison is the thief of Joy.
• 1:03:18
  I keep telling them that but Governor did you do it, huh?
• 1:03:27
  Did you do it? Did I do what ask Siri?
• 1:03:32
  How do I get fast? I like you know whether its
• 1:03:51
  internal change, external change, environmental change.
• 1:03:55
  But trust becomes very fragile as well.
• 1:03:58
  You know, and then it's not because it's broken, it's just
• 1:04:02
  different. And that makes it all kinds of
• 1:04:04
  different and it's like its capital T, lowercase R,
• 1:04:09
  lowercase U capital S and lowercase T and it's a
• 1:04:12
  completely different thing rather than sticking with a
• 1:04:15
  composite. When they're when these people
• 1:04:17
  are picking up their phone and they're talking to Siri or two
• 1:04:19
  looking at social media, go back and look at the great
• 1:04:23
  relationship with the people that had the best careers.
• 1:04:28
  And the longevity in the sport. You had think, you know, Le
• 1:04:31
  Mariano likes to talk about the 1.5 coaches that the average
• 1:04:36
  Olympic gold medal is high. There's a trust Factor there.
• 1:04:41
  But instead of, you know, doing history and figuring out how to
• 1:04:44
  be great, they just do current to find out how to have fun
• 1:04:48
  here. And that's, and that's the
• 1:04:50
  issue. So you gotta try like know that
• 1:04:52
  that has got to be established in the recruiting process.
• 1:04:55
  That's the irony of it to me, right?
• 1:04:57
  And I think we all agree that trust both ways athletes coach
• 1:05:01
  Coast. Athlete is probably the most
• 1:05:03
  crucial piece, But the irony of the social media piece is we
• 1:05:08
  live in this world today, where information is so easily, access
• 1:05:12
  so easily shared you have a window into what other people
• 1:05:16
  are doing, right? A couple of years ago, I had an
• 1:05:21
  athlete of mine. Ask a question.
• 1:05:26
  Why the the question that loses recursive?
• 1:05:29
  Why aren't we doing X when program X is doing X?
• 1:05:36
  And I'm like, I literally sounds, like you got all this
• 1:05:39
  time to be on your phone to find out what their programs doing,
• 1:05:41
  but you didn't take the time to Google my resume versus there.
• 1:05:48
  Why are we having this conversation?
• 1:05:51
  And so, it's, they choose the information that they want,
• 1:05:54
  right? And they only choose it in
• 1:05:57
  theory, to create the answer that they think they want to
• 1:06:00
  hear. And it can, it can, it can
• 1:06:04
  become a very burdensome task when the trust issue, isn't
• 1:06:08
  there? I got a team like 85% freshman
• 1:06:11
  right now and what me and my staff are doing every day.
• 1:06:16
  Is trying to find creative ways to build that Rapport, because
• 1:06:20
  someone all of them, we felt were successful high school
• 1:06:23
  athletes. Hence, why they're on our
• 1:06:24
  campus, right? Well, some of them are coached
• 1:06:27
  by their fathers, some by their mothers.
• 1:06:29
  Some of them had Club coaches that they grew up with some of
• 1:06:33
  them never been cosas de and they like that's a whole
• 1:06:35
  different level of trust problem.
• 1:06:36
  Like, I'm just something, no one ever pays me any attention,
• 1:06:39
  right? And so it's all this personality
• 1:06:41
  management that you have to go through every day just to get to
• 1:06:44
  a place where they believe you. When you say something, And it's
• 1:06:48
  difficult, but you better be good at it because without that,
• 1:06:52
  you're not going to follow you. Haven't come close to your goal.
• 1:06:56
  Mmm-hmm, I feel like you guys have been in my head all day
• 1:07:00
  today. Super awesome.
• 1:07:07
  Well, good and kind of growing off of that notion.
• 1:07:09
  You know, knowing that not what the current state of mental
• 1:07:13
  health, is with our student athletes.
• 1:07:15
  But kind of again, the fragile Miss of it, within our programs
• 1:07:22
  with the student-athletes, you know, what are some jet. 28 or
• 1:07:27
  develop healthy training environments again in
• 1:07:30
  maintaining I got a singing. I got a simple one for you.
• 1:07:39
  One acknowledgement. And to just create space to
• 1:07:49
  remind them that you're acknowledging.
• 1:07:51
  For example, right now, the bulk of our team are practice starts
• 1:07:55
  at 2:00. Well.
• 1:07:59
  Back when I was training with John Smith, we used to always
• 1:08:03
  make us run four laps as a warm-up, right stride, the
• 1:08:06
  straightaways walking terms, however long it took it took and
• 1:08:10
  his attitude was, y'all could do whatever you want.
• 1:08:12
  You can say whatever you want, you talk about whatever you
• 1:08:14
  want. But when these four laps are
• 1:08:15
  done, I need you to lock in, right?
• 1:08:18
  So in the spirit of that, it all went to sleep and I look
• 1:08:21
  practice starts at two, they need to be here at 2:00 but for
• 1:08:23
  15 minutes, leave him alone and I told him like y'all can do
• 1:08:27
  whatever you want. You 15 minutes, you can lay
• 1:08:29
  down. You can run, you can run
• 1:08:30
  Tick-Tock and do whatever you want.
• 1:08:32
  I'll be in the chick top, right? Whatever it is.
• 1:08:35
  But when that 15 minutes is over, I need you to lock in and
• 1:08:38
  honestly I thought it was something super simple.
• 1:08:42
  It was almost a throwaway idea for me and then we have the
• 1:08:46
  Mountain West Mental Health Summit.
• 1:08:49
  And like four or five of my kids.
• 1:08:50
  Shouted, us out for that. I was like oh like y'all really
• 1:08:55
  like that. Like okay cool.
• 1:08:57
  Like that's though it and it was just trying me, trying to find a
• 1:09:00
  way to acknowledge how they are and what they need, right?
• 1:09:06
  I'm over there, making sure the workouts are right for the 15
• 1:09:09
  minutes or whatever, but it's a little thing, but apparently
• 1:09:13
  it's big for them. So just acknowledge it and find
• 1:09:16
  ways to to point it out and remind Didn't you care about it?
• 1:09:22
  Yeah, I, you know, I think look, we're all old enough to have
• 1:09:27
  competed in the, in the era, where your coach didn't care
• 1:09:31
  about your feelings at all. Hello.
• 1:09:35
  Like I literally had a coach say to me feo feelin's.
• 1:09:41
  That ain't what we're here for. And I was like got it you will
• 1:09:46
  never ever hear me talk about how I feel again.
• 1:09:51
  And you know, look, I'm very proud of my career but I would
• 1:09:54
  be the first person to say this the vast majority of my career
• 1:09:59
  was based off of anger and proving people wrong and my
• 1:10:06
  career was over and I started having kids.
• 1:10:08
  I realized that is really not healthy.
• 1:10:12
  Like I can't coach that way. I can't coach.
• 1:10:16
  I like, I never really had to worry about thinking
• 1:10:19
  autobiographically because I just didn't like Coaching
• 1:10:22
  someone? It's not that I was coach poorly
• 1:10:24
  but let's be clear. I love my coaches.
• 1:10:26
  They did a great job with me, but we got to go all the way
• 1:10:29
  back to when I first started being an athlete, right?
• 1:10:32
  Like I was home that way from the beginning, like you don't
• 1:10:35
  talk about your feelings and toughness is the thing.
• 1:10:38
  You walk through the gate with, right?
• 1:10:41
  Not mental toughness toughness, right?
• 1:10:44
  If the bone is not exposed through the skin, we compete,
• 1:10:49
  you know, that kind of stuff. and, and you realize, like, It
• 1:10:58
  breeds angry athletes and there's you know, anger is a
• 1:11:02
  fuel. No question about it, look.
• 1:11:03
  I'm like I said, I did it but man, you can make some really
• 1:11:09
  unhealthy people that way. you know, and so you realize like
• 1:11:15
  all right, as a as an old dog, like there's some new tricks
• 1:11:20
  that are like cool to learn, you know, like, Like letting go of
• 1:11:29
  certain things that, that like make too much to you in the
• 1:11:32
  coaching world, right? Never throw the baby out with
• 1:11:35
  the bathwater but just understanding that a little give
• 1:11:38
  and take is probably the best way, right?
• 1:11:42
  And and here's a, here's a tidbit, I'll throw out there for
• 1:11:46
  all of you younger coaches. Every year you should coach your
• 1:11:51
  athletes a little less and get to know them a little more.
• 1:11:58
  The the trust rope should get pulled in their Direction a
• 1:12:02
  little bit more every year. You always got to coach him.
• 1:12:08
  But their opinions and their verbage back to you you should
• 1:12:12
  have deaf ears in year one. But by year for you by here a
• 1:12:15
  time or two, you might hear a suggestion or two, you still
• 1:12:20
  probably not going to but at least you hear them and
• 1:12:22
  acknowledge it. But you're not supposed to coach
• 1:12:25
  seniors the same way you coach freshman.
• 1:12:28
  It's not a dictatorship. Hmm.
• 1:12:31
  Okay, so I need clarification on that one but because the I'm
• 1:12:39
  good because the problem you have is when you start allowing
• 1:12:44
  the senior And the Freshman seed with the seniors doing the
• 1:12:50
  Freshman is therefore going to want the same thing and maybe I
• 1:12:54
  do need to clarify that I only mean in conversation and
• 1:12:58
  particularly one-on-one conversation with athlete at
• 1:13:01
  coach. I completely understand what our
• 1:13:03
  attention and that conversation better happened in your office
• 1:13:06
  know for sure, for sure and and I intended for that to be that
• 1:13:10
  way. So thank you for giving me the
• 1:13:11
  chance to cut the clarify. Definitely outside of like look
• 1:13:14
  I always joke like Mom That can argue but not front of the kids.
• 1:13:19
  You know, like you when you're outside like you got to tell
• 1:13:22
  them what to do and they all got to do what you tell me for sure.
• 1:13:26
  For sure. Well so I said, I had that
• 1:13:30
  conversation today. Actually, the one that you're
• 1:13:32
  talking about with the freshman and I said, you know, you're
• 1:13:35
  going to hear me say less to those who have return or
• 1:13:38
  returned, more times than others and those who are on their way
• 1:13:41
  out. I said, because we're fixing
• 1:13:44
  less or managing more so you may not like my voice as much and so
• 1:13:50
  sorry for your life, but it's happened.
• 1:13:52
  You you guys must have different kids because I know I'm
• 1:13:55
  teaching. Stuff every day.
• 1:13:58
  You know, I note, I've met. Maybe it's just me.
• 1:14:01
  Maybe I'm just a little bit OCD or so, I don't know, but I mean,
• 1:14:05
  more, awesome, teacher. Yeah, same thing.
• 1:14:08
  Like I give feedback same way every year, is, if they've never
• 1:14:12
  heard of before their lives, well, I think part of that to be
• 1:14:17
  honest is there's a huge sameness with you.
• 1:14:21
  You've been in the same place for 20-something years.
• 1:14:26
  Right? So like the old he just called
• 1:14:28
  me. Oh, not at all.
• 1:14:33
  I didn't even call you old. I'm just saying there is a
• 1:14:37
  there. There is something to be said
• 1:14:40
  for that, right? And I'm it look, it's not better
• 1:14:43
  or worse, it's just different. Well, i-i'll chime in here.
• 1:14:49
  And what my aim is that, you know, and I think this is what
• 1:14:56
  Out of what Le Mariano was trying to get at is that you
• 1:15:02
  have been pushing a philosophy, you've been pushing methodology,
• 1:15:09
  how you're going about things, what we're doing from September
• 1:15:14
  through December? What we're doing?
• 1:15:15
  From January through June and there's a rhythm, right?
• 1:15:20
  And there's a, there's a, you know, way of doing things based
• 1:15:24
  on where you're at. And for me I want like so right
• 1:15:30
  now, I have four to five athletes in my training group
• 1:15:36
  that know exactly what I'm going to do on Monday, Tuesday,
• 1:15:41
  Wednesday, Thursday Friday, okay?
• 1:15:44
  If for whatever reason I'm not there or if I'm going to be late
• 1:15:50
  or anything like that, I don't have to worry about it.
• 1:15:54
  But the amount of time that I've had to spend 23 years building
• 1:16:00
  that into them and getting them to understand that you are
• 1:16:03
  taking responsibility for this, right?
• 1:16:07
  This is your, this is your career, right?
• 1:16:11
  And at some point, I would hope that you are grasping what it
• 1:16:16
  is, we're doing and you have some understanding.
• 1:16:20
  So by the time the program is sent out and whatever you
• 1:16:24
  Already gone through it, you know, exactly what we're doing.
• 1:16:27
  Almost to the point where you're new, you're knowing, how you're
• 1:16:30
  going to feel uncertain days and all of that.
• 1:16:33
  So, I push it constantly where I cannot be in a thousand places
• 1:16:39
  at one time. Okay.
• 1:16:41
  So, I have to have that Core group of kids that have been in
• 1:16:46
  it. They understand it, and they can
• 1:16:49
  actually be an extension of me right now.
• 1:16:52
  Yeah, I mean, I totally agree with that.
• 1:16:53
  That's the point. That's a but that doesn't change
• 1:16:56
  the words that come out of my mouth though.
• 1:16:58
  Yeah, you know I think that it's important that they hear it from
• 1:17:03
  me but you know, like I start off every year as if they have
• 1:17:07
  no clue what I'm talking and I preached The Narrative every
• 1:17:11
  year because I'm not sure there's ever anything wrong with
• 1:17:14
  a subtle, reminder of what's going on.
• 1:17:18
  Yeah. And so at all.
• 1:17:19
  So what it does is because now when I'm teaching now, At that
• 1:17:25
  prompts the senior to teach, right?
• 1:17:29
  Because now he or she can say, hey, this is what he's trying to
• 1:17:33
  explain to you. It's a reminder to them and then
• 1:17:36
  they can go ivy, have seen it happen where to walk them back
• 1:17:39
  and they're like the make an arm gesture to stuff like that, you
• 1:17:42
  know? So I'm not disagreeing with you
• 1:17:43
  guys saying, I'm just saying, I'm just, you know, I'm a little
• 1:17:47
  over the top with it, I guess, you know, and I think that
• 1:17:50
  that's good. I think we're getting to it.
• 1:17:54
  That's what I said, you're winning.
• 1:17:58
  So that means we need to do that more.
• 1:17:59
  No, that's not what I'm just kidding.
• 1:18:02
  I'm just kidding when it comes to mental health piece of this.
• 1:18:11
  I think that acknowledgement is key.
• 1:18:14
  You know, listening is key and it goes back to the trust thing,
• 1:18:18
  building a trust and and then the know that you have their
• 1:18:22
  back you know, somebody's having a bad Today you know don't just
• 1:18:25
  say suck it up and get through it.
• 1:18:27
  Like we were told you know like you know it's not uncommon if
• 1:18:32
  somebody's having a bad day hey go in there hang up the
• 1:18:34
  trainer's you know go let you know Matt in the way you know
• 1:18:38
  what's going on and you know maybe you just get a mental
• 1:18:40
  health day every now You know, but but like, you know, like
• 1:18:44
  it's real, you know, it is, and I think that, you know, you have
• 1:18:49
  to be cognizant of it. You have to be, they'll just
• 1:18:52
  have to be aware of the signals and they're different from every
• 1:18:55
  athlete. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:18:57
  So to build and kind of bring it all together to is my word.
• 1:19:03
  For all of that is exchange creating exchange and letting it
• 1:19:07
  be visible with the other athletes as well.
• 1:19:09
  So they have a feeling of safety.
• 1:19:11
  Be vulnerable for a moment, you know and making it appropriate
• 1:19:16
  at the right time to like someone has a little Outburst.
• 1:19:20
  You have a silent conversation with them but they see an
• 1:19:22
  exchange, The Outsider, see an exchange and then we visit it
• 1:19:26
  when it's a more appropriate time, you know.
• 1:19:28
  Or you know, there's a freshman who is having a mental health
• 1:19:33
  day because they're younger and they're transitioning and
• 1:19:35
  whatnot, and the senior seems like there's a vulnerable neural
• 1:19:40
  ability to it. I can Still be vulnerable and my
• 1:19:43
  coach is going to listen to what I'm saying.
• 1:19:45
  And maybe put me in my spot or put me in the spot that I'm
• 1:19:49
  supposed to be in here. Yeah I think that you know it
• 1:19:53
  depends on the conversation. Now the conversations about you
• 1:19:56
  know a mental health issue or a physical health issue.
• 1:19:59
  I'm listening all day. Yeah, we're not having
• 1:20:01
  conversations with anybody about what we should be doing.
• 1:20:04
  Training wise, exactly know. You can be a 12 year senior.
• 1:20:09
  Thanks to covid and it's not happening.
• 1:20:12
  Don't do this. Don't do that.
• 1:20:32
  Has as predicted by the EP at the beginning of mmm.
• 1:20:38
  Yeah. And you know what, here's what
• 1:20:41
  I'll say. I have no truck with medical
• 1:20:45
  Richards. right, like like he had Like he tore his knee like
• 1:20:53
  three ligaments in one of the things and the other thing like
• 1:20:57
  he had sort of like a cardiac deal, right?
• 1:21:00
  Like if you still want to go back and do college sports and
• 1:21:03
  his eye, was he not about the profession for you anymore,
• 1:21:06
  right? You know what you look good on
• 1:21:08
  you. Right hand.
• 1:21:10
  My man, my man is on his second. He's on his second, master's
• 1:21:13
  degree. I need.
• 1:21:16
  So he's also been, you know, given the system, which is good
• 1:21:18
  for him. But yeah, I mean I don't I'm not
• 1:21:23
  even a college coach and I can't wait the covid till the covid.
• 1:21:29
  Calendar is cleared itself. Yeah, we're getting.
• 1:21:32
  We're getting close. We're getting close.
• 1:21:34
  Believe me, I've counting taking down the days years.
• 1:21:39
  Am I, am I correct sats are do. Next fall.
• 1:21:46
  Bye. Sats are back.
• 1:21:48
  Next. Fall is not what I have in
• 1:21:50
  California as a teaser one. Now, it's not across the board.
• 1:21:54
  Okay. Stir to Chanel.
• 1:21:55
  Yeah. And as for the record, I never
• 1:21:57
  went away here, so really, that's wild.
• 1:22:02
  Wow. Okay.
• 1:22:04
  We have we have lost a couple of big-time recruit because they
• 1:22:08
  had to take the SAT or act and school exit.
• 1:22:12
  Hey, why would you do that when you Just come on over here.
• 1:22:18
  I know the junior college ranks in general, they lament that
• 1:22:22
  decision tremendously because it's a great number of kids that
• 1:22:26
  that would have just flat-out been to the movies.
• 1:22:29
  They had to take the SAT and they don't.
• 1:22:32
  Yep. Yeah.
• 1:22:36
  Alright so as we naturally segwayed into some chaos, let's
• 1:22:42
  just go ahead first and Cannonball that boy in college
• 1:22:46
  football. Chaos man, I want to go fast
• 1:22:53
  before Clyde gets to it. I said that you was gonna come
• 1:23:00
  out of the West and I still that they can.
• 1:23:05
  But they stumbled up, they stumbled up in Utah because
• 1:23:11
  people don't understand. If you don't live in the west
• 1:23:15
  playing, football at BYU and a night game or playing football,
• 1:23:19
  the University of Utah as a night game is one of the hardest
• 1:23:23
  things to do in this country. Hmm.
• 1:23:28
  Yeah, go for it, Clyde. Hey, it's my, it's my favorite.
• 1:23:37
  It's my favorite time of the year for college football.
• 1:23:40
  Right? Right about.
• 1:23:41
  Now as you approach Halloween, and the powers that be show
• 1:23:47
  their hand and set the table, the way it needs to be set.
• 1:23:51
  First of all, once again, you're not running the table in the
• 1:23:56
  Pac-12, Utah's, add Good football team.
• 1:23:59
  Yeah mean in there at that place altitude and all this other
• 1:24:03
  stuff. Hi, I'm surprised.
• 1:24:07
  The game was as close as it was a great game.
• 1:24:09
  The only game better than that. This weekend was the Tennessee
• 1:24:13
  Alabama game. This was phenomenal, right?
• 1:24:17
  Oh, yeah, the T Snowden of the TCU game was just as good.
• 1:24:21
  He has funded 100%, sir, hundred percent I hear you.
• 1:24:26
  It doesn't digit. Double-digit.
• 1:24:27
  Come back and wins in double overtime, like it just means
• 1:24:30
  more glad I'm glad you figure. Out.
• 1:24:37
  But in let me be clear with what I'm saying.
• 1:24:42
  So, when I say set the table, Some teams have played seven
• 1:24:47
  games, some teams played six, the official rankings aren't out
• 1:24:52
  yet, but the table has been set because Alabama, lost that game.
• 1:24:58
  And they only failed a number six, and they're not really
• 1:25:02
  number six. There number 5, because don't
• 1:25:04
  get it twisted. I miss you get in Ohio.
• 1:25:06
  State are going to play each other eventually, someone's
• 1:25:09
  gonna win and the loser is going to fall out of the top five.
• 1:25:13
  But when Georgia plays tennis See and someone loses their not
• 1:25:18
  going to fall out of the top. Five and Alabama will just
• 1:25:23
  continue because they're in the East.
• 1:25:25
  If they continue to win, they're going to be in Atlanta for the
• 1:25:28
  championship game. The loser of the Tennessee
• 1:25:30
  Georgia game will be one loss, but not in the championship
• 1:25:34
  game. Yeah, and they have set the
• 1:25:37
  table for three out of the four, SEC, Ray, who is this, who is
• 1:25:43
  this? The table setting up.
• 1:25:47
  Okay. So okay, so maybe the powers
• 1:25:50
  that be the winning field goal from Tennessee, that happened
• 1:25:54
  that what happened to this nonsense?
• 1:26:00
  I never said that. So he has change every time
• 1:26:23
  somebody gets beat so therefore they're based wait till they
• 1:26:26
  don't kill with it. Yeah, you are.
• 1:27:20
  I may be about how they get there the fraudulent but then
• 1:27:24
  okay. So we're going to say they get
• 1:27:26
  their fraud. Hold on a second.
• 1:27:28
  Now if this is it the process is fraudulent how they get there
• 1:27:32
  then why how come very few times anybody beats them when they do
• 1:27:36
  if they don't belong hmm, I'll wait for that until you until
• 1:27:41
  Chi graduates College. But that's fine.
• 1:27:47
  And you did not answer my question.
• 1:28:15
  Above the chaos, not about the idiocy in your opinion clinic,
• 1:28:22
  police. Tell me the teams that still
• 1:28:24
  have a legitimate chance of being in the fourth.
• 1:28:27
  Sure, Jim DeMint chance. Can, I am not being sarcastic.
• 1:28:32
  How do you define legit? This is your definition, like in
• 1:28:36
  your mind, who do you think still has a chance to be in the
• 1:28:39
  for because obviously all the teams don't.
• 1:28:42
  Sure. So TCU would have to be
• 1:28:45
  undefeated, but that won't necessarily be enough.
• 1:28:48
  Because, as you see, the table has been set.
• 1:28:51
  So the winner of the Michigan, Ohio, State game has a chance,
• 1:28:58
  the Georgia, Tennessee. And Alabama.
• 1:29:02
  All have a chance and probably will be in in theory, Ole.
• 1:29:06
  Miss has a chance to take a beat Alabama.
• 1:29:08
  We all know, that's probably not happen.
• 1:29:11
  So On any one of those top for the SEC TCU, if they can run the
• 1:29:16
  table in a whole bunch of help UCLA's undefeated, they have no
• 1:29:20
  shot, unless they ran the table. Much, like, TC USC's going to be
• 1:29:25
  locked out Oklahoma. State's going to be locked out,
• 1:29:27
  organs going to be locked out. You're forgetting team for sure.
• 1:29:31
  I'm hold on. Oh no, that's currently
• 1:29:36
  undefeated right now getting the Clemson Tigers who were
• 1:29:39
  currently on Clemson's. Clemson is sitting there, like
• 1:29:43
  that's why I was trying to get to Clemson is the buffer, right?
• 1:29:48
  Clemson. Because they've had excellent
• 1:29:50
  teams in the past. They're one of the, they're one
• 1:29:52
  of the sexy teams. So they represent the floor
• 1:29:56
  between, that's why they put Alabama right behind it, because
• 1:29:59
  it would be offensive to put them ahead of Clemson right now.
• 1:30:02
  If Clemson was UCLA, Oh no problem.
• 1:30:07
  You got no problem leaving Alabama with their one loss at
• 1:30:10
  60 above those people, right? But it's all reputation-based
• 1:30:14
  Clemson sitting there, Clemson runs the table in the ACC, which
• 1:30:18
  is totally plausible. Plausible, they've done it many
• 1:30:20
  times, the the who's going to get the other spot is very, very
• 1:30:25
  interesting right now. Yeah.
• 1:30:27
  I mean, I find it very interesting because the like TCU
• 1:30:32
  is the is the litmus test for collides.
• 1:30:34
  Chaos Theory, right? If you look at Is remaining on
• 1:30:37
  their schedules. First of all, TCU has played and
• 1:30:40
  beaten three ranked teams already they still have on their
• 1:30:44
  schedule, Kansas State, they still have on their schedule.
• 1:30:47
  Texas. Who was currently number 20,
• 1:30:50
  right? And they say, I'm just saying
• 1:30:51
  this, it's just somewhat what's going on today and they still
• 1:30:55
  have on their schedule, Texas Tech, right?
• 1:30:58
  So they still got three quality games and obviously, they have
• 1:31:01
  to win them all because I look at one last.
• 1:31:03
  Big 12 team is literally never get again.
• 1:31:06
  Is your name the Oklahoma? It's just never going to happen
• 1:31:08
  unless it's Oklahoma, right, at least, it's never gonna happen.
• 1:31:11
  So so but the thing is, if TCU runs the table That would be
• 1:31:18
  really interesting to see because they're currently behind
• 1:31:20
  Alabama. Yeah.
• 1:31:22
  Right. So if album wins arrest their
• 1:31:23
  games, There's not a world where TCU passes them.
• 1:31:29
  No. None.
• 1:31:30
  Right. Like Michigan.
• 1:31:31
  A call Michigan to Clemson. Both won this week and they felt
• 1:31:34
  so so. So the very first, that's right
• 1:31:37
  rankings. Come out now.
• 1:31:41
  I think. I'm next, I'm next week.
• 1:31:42
  I think. Okay.
• 1:31:44
  So we're commenting on. Something has even exist yet.
• 1:31:56
  Is it called idiocy when you're coming about something that
• 1:31:58
  doesn't exist so certain way. Yes, it is.
• 1:32:01
  As we have a lot of great football games with a lot of
• 1:32:04
  great plays in college football. Last week, we had some blunders
• 1:32:09
  and all we've talked about is usual is the complete conspiracy
• 1:32:14
  theory. It's not conspiracy theory, sir,
• 1:32:16
  you asked Any consistent basis can tell
• 1:32:36
  you exactly what's about to come out of your mouth.
• 1:32:38
  We did it. With the wrister, you will have
• 1:32:57
  any idea then what's it look? Like they are they have been in
• 1:33:00
  the past but by what measured. Okay.
• 1:33:03
  Okay, bye. Lot of measure everything.
• 1:33:06
  I just didn't score is going to be the floor and yes, Thief.
• 1:33:10
  We will see these Wings going to every position every time
• 1:33:14
  guaranteed. And and then two of them will
• 1:33:16
  get in the playoff and one of them will win the whole thing.
• 1:33:18
  So then we're fine right now. They have set the table for 3 to
• 1:33:21
  get 3 that lesson for that to happen to listen for that.
• 1:33:26
  We went to this Nakayama Alabama Alabama, Tennessee.
• 1:33:32
  Stop it. Okay, hold on a second.
• 1:33:43
  They are not all games. But we went through this last
• 1:33:47
  you. When you wanted to talk to you
• 1:33:48
  with me, I told you. I would've asked what you were
• 1:33:50
  going to be and they were and so I don't know last year there
• 1:33:54
  wasn't Is it doesn't matter, okay?
• 1:33:57
  There are three viable teams in the SEC.
• 1:34:00
  There's two of them. Okay, hold on a second, two of
• 1:34:03
  them. Make it to the playoffs.
• 1:34:04
  Okay? It will not be 3sec.
• 1:34:08
  We will see, we will see, there's no guarantee we will
• 1:34:12
  see. When the rankings come out in
• 1:34:16
  the committee hotel room right now, they have two, pegs, this a
• 1:34:19
  sec. One sec.
• 1:34:21
  To, I have names on them yet. As have to.
• 1:34:24
  That is that that as that is now three years in a row, you lose
• 1:34:27
  that long. So that's what I said.
• 1:34:29
  I know. I know you gonna say stuff
• 1:34:30
  though. Hey, but I just said we will we
• 1:34:32
  will she'll wait. By definition, that would mean
• 1:34:45
  they were two or ten. George.
• 1:34:49
  I course they were belongings one loss and the other Georgia
• 1:34:52
  or Tennessee will also have one long.
• 1:34:55
  Don't let Tennessee, beat Georgia and Georgia sitting
• 1:34:58
  there by themselves and don't have to play in the title game
• 1:35:01
  of one lost. Oh, that is your all three get
• 1:35:04
  in scenario right there. I was going to say that's the
• 1:35:06
  scenario. That's absolutely the scenario
• 1:35:09
  you smiling because you're not. I'm smiling.
• 1:35:12
  No. He's No, not happening.
• 1:35:15
  I won't happen. I just find it.
• 1:35:17
  Funny that the top 10. Listen, I'm not gonna say it's
• 1:35:20
  predictable and predictable. But his predictable, like the
• 1:35:23
  top ten currently includes what? I'm not even looking at it.
• 1:35:27
  It's for SEC schools. Yep, for a bit too.
• 1:35:32
  Big 10 schools, right? Yep.
• 1:35:35
  To pack 12 schools, but there towards the but, yeah, nice.
• 1:35:40
  Yeah. Yeah, it does it towards the
• 1:35:41
  bottom of the tent. So that's 8.
• 1:35:44
  One ACC School. Yep.
• 1:35:46
  That's Clemson. And one big 12 school.
• 1:35:48
  Absolutely. Right.
• 1:35:50
  That's the scenario Playbook every year is the same Playbook.
• 1:35:54
  Okay. Hold on a second.
• 1:35:55
  So then let me be the idiot on the screen who's out of in there
• 1:36:00
  that belongs. It sounds like that's not it.
• 1:36:04
  I do not say nothing about, no horse.
• 1:36:06
  I would just like one time. Somebody answered my question.
• 1:36:10
  I'm glad it's a mess. No no no.
• 1:36:12
  You don't ask no questions. So, did you say it's not about
• 1:36:15
  that? All right, well, true, you guys
• 1:36:17
  in your. Did you not answer my question?
• 1:36:19
  Do you answer this question? No, I'm not sure what you're
• 1:36:23
  asking me. You don't want me to answer the
• 1:36:24
  question. No, no, no, I'm sorry.
• 1:36:27
  Okay. Well, what was Tennessee?
• 1:36:31
  What was Tennessee ranked before this weekend?
• 1:36:35
  I want to say. Thanks fix.
• 1:36:37
  Okay, yeah, so three played six and 6 1, right?
• 1:36:40
  So they just flip flops spots, right?
• 1:36:44
  Am I correct? Yes, Bama went to six and
• 1:36:46
  Tennessee, went to three. Yep.
• 1:36:48
  Right. So that actually makes sense to
• 1:36:51
  me, but what doesn't make sense to me is Clemson started the
• 1:36:54
  week for Michigan started week 5.
• 1:36:57
  They both won and they got flip-flopped albany's.
• 1:37:01
  And let's see. That's, that's an irrelevant
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  argue because they don't want to rest easy school.
• 1:37:05
  No, no. But this was the argument.
• 1:37:06
  I was making earlier is just that it is very, very, It's very
• 1:37:12
  unevenly handed the moves that happen from week to week are
• 1:37:18
  definitely here. It's just very unevenly you know
• 1:37:20
  where you are 100. And then the million dollar
• 1:37:24
  question is if there's choose. What wait what was that even
• 1:37:27
  about? Certainly USC dropped all the
• 1:37:30
  way. Oh, I'm talking to you because
• 1:37:34
  USC lost to Utah was right number 20, who lost to Florida,
• 1:37:41
  whose unranked know, I got all that.
• 1:37:43
  That's what was done by USC. I was asked to talk about
• 1:37:45
  talking to Laura. No, they weren't Florida was not
• 1:37:53
  ranked. When they when they lost to
• 1:37:54
  Utah, you're both wrong. You're both wrong.
• 1:37:58
  Oh, no, I'm telling you. No, no, because when he said
• 1:38:01
  they were you smiled and shook it, they were not ranked, so
• 1:38:05
  Utah lost to an unranked. Florida team, that then got
• 1:38:08
  ranking has proven to never have should have been raised, right?
• 1:38:12
  So you SC then loses to a Utah team who was lost to a team that
• 1:38:17
  has won one sec game. Sure, I get that.
• 1:38:21
  What did the Pac-12? Is such a wanted conference
• 1:38:25
  because they beat up on each other talking.
• 1:38:27
  No. So this also be what's up?
• 1:38:29
  So hold a second self. Okay.
• 1:38:52
  USC lost to the 20th, ranked team in the country on their
• 1:38:55
  home field who has a horrible whatever y'all track record,
• 1:39:01
  they lost it a team, that's not ranked, there's not very good.
• 1:39:06
  That's interesting because the narrative forever is that the
• 1:39:11
  SEC is so overwhelmingly difficult because everybody's
• 1:39:15
  good in the conference and even if you're a third fourth, fifth
• 1:39:18
  place team like that. Team is better than you once
• 1:39:22
  even any other conference. So clearly and it caught on and
• 1:39:26
  clearly they are because a team of the SEC.
• 1:39:30
  There's not very good beat a team that you guys said was the
• 1:39:34
  best team in the in the Pac-12. So you just proved my point.
• 1:39:37
  So we're maybe you don't holler at me when Gainesville loads up
• 1:39:41
  through the private planes and flies to you as for as he's an
• 1:39:44
  okay. That's good, that's good.
• 1:39:47
  That's going to happen next year.
• 1:39:48
  So now you know, It doesn't hold on a second it doesn't matter
• 1:39:55
  how it goes, what absolutely does.
• 1:39:57
  No, no, we actually you're right, you're absolutely right.
• 1:39:59
  It doesn't, because when they lose the game, Utah won't get
• 1:40:02
  credit for it. I'll go to Second and get any
• 1:40:05
  credit for it at all. Shit, you shouldn't get credit
• 1:40:07
  for losing to a team. That's not very good.
• 1:40:11
  Beating are beating a team that's not very good.
• 1:40:14
  Sure, is Utah. Good football?
• 1:40:16
  Team sir. Clearly, they might be they they
• 1:40:19
  beat the team that you got some of the best in the Pac-12.
• 1:40:22
  So much they must be there for somebody on these tiles.
• 1:40:28
  That I didn't say is that the Utah team lost to a
• 1:40:49
  team. That's not very good in the SEC
• 1:40:53
  there. One in 3D sec.
• 1:40:57
  So, none of that in Michigan in Clemson, flip-flops that that
• 1:41:01
  was my initial Point. Okay, I'm good with you, but I
• 1:41:06
  don't, but I don't understand, I don't understand why they
• 1:41:08
  flip-flopping, okay. Other than other than Michigan,
• 1:41:12
  beat up on supposedly a pretty good Penn State team right and
• 1:41:18
  Clemson struggled a little bit with four distinct to be Florida
• 1:41:21
  State. Yes, sir, I have an answer.
• 1:41:24
  I have the answer. For you.
• 1:41:27
  I'm only talking to you because this is going to believe I'm
• 1:41:32
  trolling him. And I'm not, why did they
• 1:41:34
  flip-flop? Because you have to set the
• 1:41:36
  table as well as you can to do the table.
• 1:41:39
  I'll State Michigan Showdown. It's a better situation.
• 1:41:43
  If when that game arrives. Okay, hold on a second.
• 1:41:46
  Okay, look Common Sense. Michigan beat up on a Penn State
• 1:41:52
  team that was ranked in the top 10 at the time.
• 1:41:55
  They Destroyed them. Clemson went into Florida State
• 1:41:59
  and struggled. That's why it happened.
• 1:42:03
  Has nothing to do with all this conspiracy theory.
• 1:42:05
  It's not conspiracy. It.
• 1:42:07
  Oh, it definitely is. Definitely okay.
• 1:42:26
  Inclusion. I not so much so maybe we fly
• 1:42:28
  them a little bit. You know it is wait.
• 1:42:32
  Wait, is it is a good at matter? It's come out because because
• 1:42:35
  because didn't didn't Alabama, drop the number one.
• 1:42:38
  The number 3 because they struggle a couple weeks ago.
• 1:42:42
  Yeah. I think they did it to annoy who
• 1:42:44
  Georgia they told us like forget the anointing See.
• 1:42:49
  See this is why I don't talk to you because you were able
• 1:42:52
  answering questions. All right, that's enough.
• 1:43:18
  Right, seriously Theory, it's not about right.
• 1:43:22
  This is three seti 3sec. Tyler's want to make the
• 1:43:25
  playoff. I didn't think they're going to
• 1:43:28
  make the playoff. I said that the table has been
• 1:43:31
  set for it to happen and that table would not be set for any
• 1:43:36
  other people for that. Purpose is a system as
• 1:43:40
  consistent as white privilege. This table gets set everyone.
• 1:43:44
  That's our fault. That's all White Privilege work.
• 1:43:53
  Okay, on that one. For out-of-pocket, everything.
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  Perfect, Sports analysis. All right, to Wrangle is in, no,
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  wrangled them in the governor. I hope the Tamiflu doesn't Cloud
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  your judgment on this budget. The other segments.
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  So I know right where we want them, would you rather?
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  Would you rather eat Jimmy John's or Firehouse Subs
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  Firehouse when house? Firehouse would, you rather beat
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  Texas state in football or beat Texas state in the 4 by 1?
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  For my one. Surprise equality.
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  Yes, would you rather sleep on an air mattress or a sofa bed?
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  Sofa bed? I have never had a good
• 1:45:18
  experience with an air mattress in my entire life.
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  Those things are the worst inventions known to man.
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  Like you have to get it, you have to pay the price for the
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  good one guy. Get the Costco joint.
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  Chief ones are terrible. You are wonderful for little
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  Kids. Yes, they are.
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  You're not wonderful for big, bone black people.
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  Not sorry with Halloween coming up.
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  Would you rather eat Smarties or nerds?
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  Did you see Smarties what do you know about Smarties?
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  Google. Would you rather go to a
• 1:46:15
  convention or not go to a convention?
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  That is look, that's the best question to has ever had.
• 1:46:30
  I would rather family time. Got it.
• 1:46:35
  You're on the LLC. Now you belong at convention.
• 1:46:37
  There you go. You know, you can always take
• 1:46:41
  your family to conventions. This is true.
• 1:46:44
  This is true. Would you rather be a football
• 1:46:48
  compliance person or a football equipment manager, man,
• 1:46:52
  equipment manager all day. Is it any better?
• 1:46:57
  That's why I said it. I'm like, I mean the amount of
• 1:47:00
  gear that falls through the cracks in a football league.
• 1:47:05
  Oh yeah, absolutely. It is Criminal.
• 1:47:13
  That is crazy. Gentlemen, floor is yours.
• 1:47:17
  Okay, I'm gonna This is a, this is a coaching, would you rather
• 1:47:23
  hmm. Would you rather spend 48 Hours,
• 1:47:29
  discussing the jumps with Randy Huntington?
• 1:47:35
  Or pedroso. Randy Huntington.
• 1:47:40
  I love that man's mind. And that is actually on my
• 1:47:46
  bucket list to sit down have a cup of coffee with that, man,
• 1:47:50
  because he is, I don't think he's first of all.
• 1:47:54
  I don't think he'll ever get the credit for what he's done in
• 1:47:57
  China, on the fact. That true.
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  I mean, let's call it what it is.
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  I mean that that is nothing but miraculous what he's been able
• 1:48:06
  to do with it. Very much either.
• 1:48:10
  So yeah. Kudos to that, man.
• 1:48:14
  Can we get Randy on? I feel like we still make that
• 1:48:17
  hundred percent. Yeah, he's been going on to
• 1:48:20
  pakka so just saying, yeah, it was on packet tonight.
• 1:48:27
  Blah. And then he was my home were
• 1:48:29
  like two weeks ago or something like that, whatever, whatever.
• 1:48:36
  Yeah, whatever. We could definitely, we could
• 1:48:39
  definitely get ready on the show and that would be fun.
• 1:48:42
  That would be fun. At least for me it career I
• 1:48:47
  would need so I would need some time.
• 1:49:09
  I think we're going to enforce it.
• 1:49:39
  All the time. Yes.
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  Because because on more than one occasion he is told you who he
• 1:49:44
  was. I definitely do.
• 1:49:47
  I definitely do. Okay.
• 1:49:50
  So that would leave you mine is I guess relatively simple.
• 1:50:05
  Would you rather go to To game seven of the World Series, the
• 1:50:11
  Super Bowl game, seven of the NBA championship NBA
• 1:50:16
  championship. No matter where it is.
• 1:50:20
  Yes. What?
• 1:50:21
  If it's in Utah to the NBA Championship possible games
• 1:50:25
  game? Seven sure it's possible.
• 1:50:27
  Hell yeah. Okay, just making sure.
• 1:50:31
  But I know I have been around in long enough to understand like,
• 1:50:40
  First of all, game 7 and 10 in the World Series has a really,
• 1:50:46
  really good chance of being very cold.
• 1:50:49
  Okay? Very good chance.
• 1:50:52
  There is the opportunity. It has, you know, mean football
• 1:50:56
  could be in a dome but I know for a fact that being in that
• 1:51:00
  crowd is not the same as being in a regular season where you
• 1:51:05
  have an equal amount of fans. I mean it's different But NBA
• 1:51:12
  Finals game seven. Oh man.
• 1:51:17
  I'm with you and we're going to go home be in Utah or whatever
• 1:51:20
  it is. You can Firehouse Subs brother,
• 1:51:22
  doesn't And I'll man or so.
• 1:51:52
  I want to kind of be nice to you guys before I like well, thank
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  you, appreciate it. So who's going to win in a see?
• 1:52:05
  He said, I want to be nice to you, and he asked the question,
• 1:52:08
  after all a man's team took took a punching in the face, from the
• 1:52:18
  we've seen enough evidence. Right now, he see this right
• 1:52:21
  here, I notice I believe the Eagles will win, the NFC East.
• 1:52:34
  So he's a rational, man. Wow, do you know what?
• 1:52:38
  I heard all day week? Don't say the Cowboys all week.
• 1:52:43
  Well, of course, I'm awake sir, I live in Texas, they the
• 1:52:46
  Cowboys are winning. The Cowboys are 11 times Super
• 1:52:50
  Bowl champions in a row because they going to win it every year.
• 1:52:53
  Yeah, Dakota is returning. They're going to run the table
• 1:52:57
  as all I heard all week. So I wanted some clarity from an
• 1:53:01
  actual now for I said, Get in a room today with three.
• 1:53:08
  Very rabbit Cowboy fans and they all three said they just hope
• 1:53:14
  they can make the playoffs. Yes, that is.
• 1:53:18
  That is yes, it is funny because, you know, I said it a
• 1:53:26
  youth baseball tournament this weekend listening to Cowboys
• 1:53:30
  fans, run off at the gums, right?
• 1:53:32
  Right before the game started, because we always watch the
• 1:53:34
  games while we're watching the baseball games.
• 1:53:36
  And I said, well, Well, this is going to be interesting because
• 1:53:38
  when the days over the Cowboys are going to be in third and
• 1:53:43
  they just looked at me and I was like, oh yeah, I don't think
• 1:53:45
  that can happen. Okay.
• 1:53:46
  Watch. So then when we when the Giants
• 1:53:49
  beat the Ravens, I heard crickets and I was like, oh, c.
• 1:53:52
  So now the reality is come to you.
• 1:53:54
  If you don't need the Eagles, you're going to be in third.
• 1:53:58
  Hey listen, I know it's a diversion because we're almost
• 1:54:01
  done right? Brian Day balls coach of the
• 1:54:04
  year right now. 100% light. If you ever need an example of
• 1:54:09
  how much coaching matters in the NFL, the New York football,
• 1:54:13
  Giants, 22, the rest of the NFL, you know, what's funny?
• 1:54:18
  You know what, the Giants offense looks like right now,
• 1:54:21
  solutions, to remember this, when Percy Harvin was at
• 1:54:25
  Florida, right? And it was, was it Harvard and
• 1:54:29
  Tebow? Right?
• 1:54:32
  So, like it had, they had this this like pinwheel and it had
• 1:54:36
  the Gators offense, right? And every single one of the
• 1:54:38
  little slices was like, it was like Percy Harvin, left, Percy
• 1:54:42
  Harvin, right Tebow left, Tebow ring like that.
• 1:54:46
  That's the Giants. Like look, we have one
• 1:54:49
  legitimate. Now I want you to about
• 1:54:51
  disrespecting, my Florida Gators, there was a lot of Team,
• 1:54:54
  a lot of weapons on that team. Oh, I agree.
• 1:54:56
  I'm just telling you, like, I remember the pinwheel think,
• 1:54:58
  hey, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
• 1:55:01
  I mean it's have we have one weapon, right?
• 1:55:05
  And and and say Quan has played wide receiver, running back and
• 1:55:09
  quarterback this year. Wow.
• 1:55:13
  Very creative. I mean we have one weapon and
• 1:55:16
  Daniel Jones. That's what we give is that same
• 1:55:19
  Gator team that's like the infamous criminal team to that
• 1:55:22
  the same roster. Here you go again.
• 1:55:25
  Yeah, I'm sorry. That's just
• 1:55:43
  So I've got to I've got a hypothetical, this has to be
• 1:55:46
  hypothetical someone. And this this is how like you
• 1:55:50
  know you know that folks are reaching like reaching really
• 1:55:56
  badly. Someone has now put out a mock
• 1:56:00
  Spurs schedule for Texas in the SEC.
• 1:56:05
  Right? So, the season starts with Ohio
• 1:56:10
  State on August 30th, then San Jose State, then Tech, Arkansas,
• 1:56:19
  Vanderbilt, Oklahoma, Mississippi State at Auburn.
• 1:56:24
  Alabama, at home LSU, Kentucky am, what do you think that
• 1:56:30
  record would be? It'll be losing one for sure.
• 1:56:35
  Wait, I was sort of listening is a Red River.
• 1:56:39
  Shootout, still going to be on their schedule.
• 1:56:41
  Yes. Well, it's schedule for the
• 1:56:44
  middle of the season. So think about that, right?
• 1:56:47
  If they plan SEC slate and play Ohio State in the first game,
• 1:56:50
  they got to have the hardest strength of schedule of anybody.
• 1:56:52
  The country without a doubt. Well, I don't see how that's a
• 1:56:55
  mock SEC schedule because they missed the three games against
• 1:56:59
  the cupcakes. There's only two now.
• 1:57:02
  There's only two will see. So so so since you want to keep
• 1:57:05
  throwing shots at the SEC, Yeah, they're not good.
• 1:57:31
  I think, I think I have no idea. I just started.
• 1:57:38
  So I think the non-conference games actually set in stone
• 1:57:41
  right now at Ohio State, San Jose, State Texas, Texas Tech,
• 1:57:46
  and Oklahoma, right? Because that's now a Squatch but
• 1:57:49
  that's before SEC play has non conference.
• 1:57:58
  Are those like that college football will be much better?
• 1:58:01
  Yeah, I like it. Yeah, so true.
• 1:58:06
  Yes, let's wrap up the night with the make our hearts warm
• 1:58:11
  again and not so cold, and give some people some love.
• 1:58:17
  I love it. Can I go first?
• 1:58:20
  Because mine is super simple. Yes, go for it.
• 1:58:23
  But my heart be props this week actually go out to Sir Lucius
• 1:58:28
  because if you follow the Florida, Gators social media, he
• 1:58:33
  spent a good. He not Lucius himself.
• 1:58:36
  I know he don't run the media team but the Gators have spent
• 1:58:40
  the last week. It's not even subtle flecks and
• 1:58:43
  just Flex. Hmm, and I think sing, and I'm
• 1:58:46
  here for all of the flexing you have earned it young man, wallow
• 1:58:52
  in it of the photos, you know? This it is, it is Elite Petty,
• 1:59:00
  and I am here for it. So making sure that stuff gets
• 1:59:04
  done because it is awesome. I'll say this kind, this is when
• 1:59:08
  the first set of pictures came out, honestly, this is how I
• 1:59:11
  felt my work here is done. Oh no.
• 1:59:15
  This taken me. Two decades.
• 1:59:18
  It's like sweet. He will tell you.
• 1:59:21
  It is taken me two decades for this dude to finally admit He's
• 1:59:28
  The Godfather and he's great and that people actually should
• 1:59:33
  genuflect and kiss the ring. So where I'm just going to pile
• 1:59:36
  on and we're just going to keep it at this but you forgot about
• 1:59:42
  the video guys know I have. Oh you forgot you forgot, you
• 1:59:50
  know, George Clinton, you forgot?
• 1:59:54
  Yeah, this this Subtle flow right.
• 1:59:58
  God. God did it playing in the
• 2:00:28
  background or something? Just tell me.
• 2:00:30
  Oh, it's a good idea? Yeah, thank you, yeah.
• 2:00:36
  I mean, I followed you here, all I can hear in the background is
• 2:00:39
  DJ, Khaled like and another one, and another one, and another
• 2:00:45
  one. Those shout shout out to the
• 2:00:48
  University of Florida media Department because I mean they
• 2:00:51
  are they they're not winning. They have one, they have one.
• 2:00:54
  Yes. All the other media departments
• 2:00:57
  are just throwing in the towel like listed.
• 2:00:59
  We just, you know what? He's going to retire at some
• 2:01:01
  point will be good, then as much as I would love to just leave it
• 2:01:07
  there, I do. I do have to, I do have to give
• 2:01:10
  a harpy prop to somebody who was very near and dear to a couple
• 2:01:16
  people on this show because this young man, is a young coach who
• 2:01:24
  was doing all the things the right way and Is a product of
• 2:01:31
  his own words will say it. He is a product of coaches
• 2:01:33
  collab and he is a product and an avid viewer and note-taker of
• 2:01:39
  athletes of Athletics LLC and he very, very recently called me
• 2:01:47
  incredibly Giddy and he's taking a new job.
• 2:01:52
  He was talking about the coaching Carousel and he's like,
• 2:01:54
  now I feel bad because I'm adding to it, he's taking a new
• 2:01:59
  job as Oh shit, head coach in another program and that is
• 2:02:03
  absolutely awesome. So I want to send my shout-out
• 2:02:07
  to one. Mr. Hill, question, is it a
• 2:02:10
  secret who this person is? And whether I was literally, I
• 2:02:14
  don't know, I can't, I don't know if I can say with her
• 2:02:15
  going, but I am going to say his name.
• 2:02:17
  His name is lame. Name is Lane.
• 2:02:21
  What do you know that he's resigned yet?
• 2:02:25
  I know that when I talked to him, he said he was going to and
• 2:02:27
  I said, I won't say the place, but I'm going to say your name.
• 2:02:29
  He said okay. I'm going to say his name is
• 2:02:34
  Lane Fletcher and he's amazing young man, and like I said, he
• 2:02:40
  is literally a product of coaches collab, and I think that
• 2:02:43
  is tremendously awesome. Blaine, you can use this as your
• 2:02:47
  letter of resignation. If you have it already, right?
• 2:02:51
  You haven't already you have now buddy.
• 2:02:54
  Yeah, so I want to give my heart be props to won Miss Parker Val
• 2:02:59
  be Parker. Where did something that was
• 2:03:05
  pretty phenomenal. She ran 1858 on a course that
• 2:03:11
  certified to be, you know, 6K which is a phenomenal run
• 2:03:17
  Parker, no struggled off and all the injuries here.
• 2:03:21
  I'm also going to give a shout out to a coach crystalline ski
• 2:03:24
  for you know having Ingenuity and work with our trainers and
• 2:03:28
  our strength conditioning staff to Park it to this level but I
• 2:03:33
  also have a message for the.com people out there, you know,
• 2:03:38
  shame on you the comments and such about how Parker got here.
• 2:03:45
  And I'm going to go a little Mike Gundy I think is one of the
• 2:03:48
  country boys. Now I'm a grown man.
• 2:03:50
  You want to attack me. Attacked me.
• 2:03:53
  Chris is a grown man. You want a crystal type.
• 2:03:55
  Chris Lee Parker up. She's a great, young lady out
• 2:03:58
  there busting our ass every single day.
• 2:04:00
  Day to try to be one of the best ever and you guys want to try to
• 2:04:04
  wipe out a way to take her shot over.
• 2:04:07
  So my suggestion to you is first of all, if you got something you
• 2:04:11
  want to say to me just call me up.
• 2:04:14
  Talk about it all day. But please leave that young lady
• 2:04:18
  and let's learn to recognize people and have them know,
• 2:04:22
  praise their hard work and quit tearing them down because you
• 2:04:25
  can't do what they did. Sir.
• 2:04:28
  That's extremely well said, but I'm sorry.
• 2:04:29
  I am I'm not ignorant to her performance but I am ignorant
• 2:04:32
  to. What the hell you're talking
• 2:04:34
  about. Please don't tell me that the
• 2:04:36
  dot-coms are out there saying the child and Drug the girl up.
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  Yeah man. Cool yeah.
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  Okay yeah yep. Oh no.
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  So the whole floor to programs on drugs.
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  Yeah yeah yeah I mean we've heard that but now you doing it
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  with the distance Runner so you just ruined exactly.
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  It is that I'm just disrespectful now like this.
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  Oh my God. But anyway, leave that young
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  lady alone. Please.
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  Wow, that's good. All right, well I'll pay you
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  back. The Mars and just the juggling
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  so pack that one. But other than that, you know,
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  this was a great episode. Good information, good Share,
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  story, sharing and Nice Notes for the most part, but other
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  than that, so everyone have a great week.
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  Have happy homecomings for You have homecomings be safe and
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  we'll see each other soon. Hi, everyone.
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  When the lights, come on, come on.
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  Would you like a hot knife? Wouldn't be here but we have
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  stopped running. You gotta understand.
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  Rapes, gotta catch Stars. Show you how to fight for, show
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  us who you are, you lack experience?
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  But still you want to talk and who is that you talk to
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  yourself? The kind of small heads prevail
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  when the backbone strong gotta keep it coming up, won't last
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  long, Pastor felt instead of the session and if you don't check
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  yourself then that's wrong. Just trying to give you the real
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  that you asked for. So why you keep cutting us off
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  to a small? We put it.
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  In slow-mo. What you fast for the task
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  force?