Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Rotimi On Fatherhood, Bringing Afrobeats To America, 50 Cent's Marketing Genius, New Album + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.
- 0:04Speaker 1: Morning everybody, it's the j Envy Justseilarie Charlamagne the guy.
- 0:08Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest
- 0:10Speaker 1: in the building today. We got Roll Timmy. Yes, sir,
- 0:15Speaker 1: I'm good, bro. How you doing. How you doing, family,
- 0:16Speaker 1: I'm good. Good to see you, Good to see you.
- 0:19Speaker 1: It's been a couple of years.
- 0:20Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you were working.
- 0:22Speaker 1: I'm doing what i can to my family because last
- 0:25Speaker 1: time we see him, he wasn't married. He about the
- 0:28Speaker 1: music park. I'm talking about both. I'm talking about like this.
- 0:31Speaker 2: I'm he has the husband and dad glow. You know
- 0:35Speaker 2: that's amazing.
- 0:36Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Yea being and being and being
- 0:38Speaker 1: a father man. And it's changed my life man, because
- 0:42Speaker 1: having a three year old boy and a two year
- 0:44Speaker 1: old girl, like, I'm just learning so much about myself
- 0:47Speaker 1: as a man, and it just does it. So anybody
- 0:51Speaker 1: father's man, like, please spend time with your children because
- 0:55Speaker 1: at this age I'm seeing how much it is that
- 0:57Speaker 1: affects them. But I'm not there, you know, So it's
- 1:00Speaker 1: it's it's a beautiful thing just to see him grow
- 1:02Speaker 1: and them both grow.
- 1:03Speaker 2: Yeah, is it a difference, Like, I know you had
- 1:05Speaker 2: your son first, was it that anything changed when you
- 1:08Speaker 2: had your girl?
- 1:10Speaker 1: So yeah, so being a Nigerian mine now of paranting that,
- 1:15Speaker 1: you know, but my son, Like, so I'm blessed because
- 1:18Speaker 1: my son is actually a genius. So like and everybody
- 1:21Speaker 1: say that about you know that. We really can't put
- 1:25Speaker 1: him in school because his brain, the way he takes
- 1:27Speaker 1: information is at an eight year old level. Damn, So
- 1:30Speaker 1: we had to take So he's doing preschool just to
- 1:32Speaker 1: be around other kids for socialia, but in terms of
- 1:36Speaker 1: we have to get a tutor because it's too advanced.
- 1:38Speaker 1: So he's doing his alphabets backwards. He's speaking Spanish learning
- 1:42Speaker 1: Sea at three, so like, and so I tell him
- 1:46Speaker 1: things and he gets it once, So I'm blessed. But
- 1:48Speaker 1: then the funny thing is my daughter is actually faster
- 1:51Speaker 1: because she's watching her brother right, so now they're both
- 1:54Speaker 1: going through the same thing. So it's a blessing because
- 1:56Speaker 1: it's like the house teaching, y'all ship yes, yes, that
- 2:01Speaker 1: x y z z gg and that's not I know
- 2:03Speaker 1: my CBA. I'm like what you know what I'm saying.
- 2:11Speaker 1: So it's been beautiful, man, But I'm done. With too, though, Yeah,
- 2:14Speaker 1: I'm finishing. She you just have. He just told me
- 2:17Speaker 1: so much love, you know what an experience. But I'm done.
- 2:21Speaker 1: I'm done because this generation, dude's too many. You need
- 2:24Speaker 1: you need to focus on what you can. I'm already gone,
- 2:26Speaker 1: so I'm already at a disadvantage. So like just making
- 2:28Speaker 1: sure two is good at this in this time, then
- 2:31Speaker 1: I think that's enough for me personally. That's what I
- 2:33Speaker 1: said at first, too, and then you five six to it.
- 2:37Speaker 1: First I got a twenty three. She just turned twenty
- 2:39Speaker 1: three yesterday, twenty three, twenty one, and then we waited
- 2:42Speaker 1: like ten years, and now I got eleven or ten eight?
- 2:47Speaker 1: Wow in a two year old. Wow. I love being
- 2:49Speaker 1: a father. Like being a father is, it keeps you young,
- 2:53Speaker 1: it keeps you on your toes. It just it keeps
- 2:56Speaker 1: you hungry as well. Absolutely, and I enjoy it. Now.
- 2:58Speaker 1: Your wife said that after two days of meeting you,
- 3:01Speaker 1: she knew you were the one. Yeah, did you know
- 3:03Speaker 1: she was the one? After two days? Oh?
- 3:06Speaker 2: Boy, don't get him in trouble.
- 3:12Speaker 1: Not because of her, but because I wasn't ready for
- 3:15Speaker 1: what she already was ready for. And usually women are
- 3:17Speaker 1: smarter than us you get what I'm saying. So like
- 3:20Speaker 1: she saw it, I knew it. I fought it, you
- 3:23Speaker 1: know what I mean. I knew that I never experienced
- 3:25Speaker 1: something like that. I knew that I met someone that
- 3:28Speaker 1: was already challenging me as a person in spiritually. She's
- 3:31Speaker 1: a prayer warriors, so like her whole thing was we
- 3:34Speaker 1: speaking in tongues for an hour and a half, were going,
- 3:36Speaker 1: were reading the Bible together, like, so she approached me
- 3:39Speaker 1: on a way that like it made me say, damn, bro,
- 3:42Speaker 1: you really aren't who you think you are as a person.
- 3:45Speaker 1: You're still a boy, you know. And so she made
- 3:47Speaker 1: me mentally level up. So I still was like, nah,
- 3:51Speaker 1: she's lit. But everybody then I'm like, oh my god,
- 3:53Speaker 1: I can't stop thinking, I can't stop vibing. I can't
- 3:55Speaker 1: stop I don't want nothing else. It was a gradual
- 3:58Speaker 1: how did you meet? We the Essence Fest, so so Visa.
- 4:02Speaker 1: She's she's an artist, but she retired, but she's an artist,
- 4:05Speaker 1: and she was headlining as well on the main stage
- 4:07Speaker 1: of Essence. It's a funny quick story that I was
- 4:11Speaker 1: there for Power, but I was also performing. So I
- 4:14Speaker 1: went to a private party. Okay, I'll stop. The time
- 4:17Speaker 1: I went from a private party and I actually had
- 4:19Speaker 1: a girl there with me. Oh there, yeah, like a fly,
- 4:22Speaker 1: like a nice little weekend vibe. And I'm still in
- 4:25Speaker 1: the whole Timmy Days. You know what I'm saying. I
- 4:27Speaker 1: was doing Timmy Days. So now I'm still violent, you know.
- 4:31Speaker 1: But it was Shorty was like, Yo, I don't feel
- 4:36Speaker 1: too well. I'm going to stay in and I was like, well,
- 4:37Speaker 1: I gotta go to this Spotify party really quickly. I'll
- 4:40Speaker 1: be there ten minutes. I meet you in a book.
- 4:42Speaker 1: She's like, I don't feel like going. But she was
- 4:43Speaker 1: with me the entire day. I go to the party
- 4:47Speaker 1: and all my power crew was this way, and I
- 4:51Speaker 1: was like, man, I just seen all these niggaves, I've
- 4:53Speaker 1: seen him. I'm good. Let me just do my own thing.
- 4:56Speaker 1: And there she is, like literally sitting on the pool table,
- 4:59Speaker 1: and it was just like like, oh wow, who is this?
- 5:01Speaker 1: And then we spoke for three four hours. So the
- 5:03Speaker 1: illest thing that I did that I feel like change
- 5:06Speaker 1: the trajectory of our relationship was the fact that she
- 5:09Speaker 1: was like, look, I really want to get to know you.
- 5:11Speaker 1: I think you're super lit. Let's see each other tomorrow.
- 5:14Speaker 1: And I said, honestly, like I have somebody here, I
- 5:16Speaker 1: don't want to cross ties. I don't want to play
- 5:19Speaker 1: you like that. I didn't want to. I don't want
- 5:20Speaker 1: to put you in a situation where you view me
- 5:22Speaker 1: as this guy. So let me handle this first and
- 5:25Speaker 1: then we can link, you know, whenever, when there's no distraction.
- 5:29Speaker 1: So she remembered that because I know if she would
- 5:31Speaker 1: have met me doing this, she would have been thinking
- 5:33Speaker 1: forever that, like anybody's like that, you know. So that's
- 5:36Speaker 1: how we met, and you know, we've been together ever since.
- 5:38Speaker 1: And she she wasn't living in the States at the time.
- 5:41Speaker 1: She was in Tanzania, so she flew out. And yeah,
- 5:45Speaker 1: so the young lady that you left in the hotel,
- 5:47Speaker 1: I was sick. She must feel sick. Why I gotta
- 5:54Speaker 1: be sick? Why you got to go out and leave me?
- 5:56Speaker 2: It could have been a headache from our drink. Too
- 5:58Speaker 2: much left to sit girl in want to go back somebody.
- 6:01Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm saying. It was crazy. So
- 6:03Speaker 1: how was that conversation with her? Because now it's like,
- 6:06Speaker 1: you know, yeah, if you wasn't sick, you could have
- 6:08Speaker 1: been the one. Yeah, I don't even know she could
- 6:10Speaker 1: have been the one. Okay, yeah, but she was dope.
- 6:13Speaker 1: But again, I wasn't in that mindset of anything. I
- 6:16Speaker 1: just met someone that made me say, oh, gotcha, this
- 6:19Speaker 1: is different, bro, don't lose this.
- 6:20Speaker 2: But I do respect how you told the like, I'm
- 6:23Speaker 2: here with somebody and I don't even you know, I
- 6:25Speaker 2: don't want you to cross.
- 6:27Speaker 1: I love that, And I feel like again, like you know,
- 6:30Speaker 1: the way you meet people, sometimes people never forget because
- 6:32Speaker 1: then it starts being like, okay, well you did this
- 6:35Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, so then everything is always been integrity,
- 6:38Speaker 1: yeah you know, And so I wanted to start it
- 6:40Speaker 1: off that way. And then I had the conversation short
- 6:41Speaker 1: you like, look like you know this is this is
- 6:43Speaker 1: a vibe. We cool. I had a good time, you know,
- 6:46Speaker 1: I think we're just gonna and she was like, yeah,
- 6:48Speaker 1: come the problem It was nothing. It wasn't deep. So
- 6:50Speaker 1: how long were you together with your wife before you
- 6:52Speaker 1: actually asked the question? Oh, a year and a half.
- 6:59Speaker 1: And how did you know? Because nowadays I feel like
- 7:01Speaker 1: people wait a lot longer because they want to make
- 7:03Speaker 1: sure with you know, so many people talking about toxic relationships,
- 7:06Speaker 1: so many people getting divorced. What say this is the
- 7:09Speaker 1: one that I want to do it now.
- 7:10Speaker 2: You just said he was speaking tongues for four hours.
- 7:13Speaker 1: Lord. Yeah. Nah. You know. The onliest thing that I've
- 7:17Speaker 1: always done in my career personally is I've always trusted
- 7:21Speaker 1: my instincts and I've always trusted my intuition. So I
- 7:25Speaker 1: never second guess anything, you know, And that's because I
- 7:29Speaker 1: never took an acting class, I never took music lessons.
- 7:31Speaker 1: It was always whatever. So this is no different that
- 7:34Speaker 1: I knew that it was Okay, this is the time, Oh,
- 7:38Speaker 1: this is gonna be it, this how it goes. And
- 7:41Speaker 1: I'm very in tune with God, so everything was just like, Okay,
- 7:44Speaker 1: this is who it needs to be and this is
- 7:46Speaker 1: who it is. So it was it was ordained, Bro.
- 7:48Speaker 1: I can't really tell you, like, yeah, it was just
- 7:51Speaker 1: like this woman doesn't deserve to wait, you know what
- 7:54Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, what am I doing? I already know?
- 7:56Speaker 1: So why I waste time?
- 7:58Speaker 2: So what is the rotiney prayer and the prayers for.
- 8:02Speaker 1: This man?
- 8:02Speaker 2: The way you speak about v his wife, they're gonna
- 8:06Speaker 2: be asking for that prayer. I want to know how
- 8:08Speaker 2: has been a husband and a dad affected your music?
- 8:11Speaker 2: Like did it change make you want to sing different
- 8:13Speaker 2: about different things?
- 8:14Speaker 1: Or he keeps saying you got like nineteen songs.
- 8:18Speaker 2: But how does this impact your music now the family life?
- 8:23Speaker 1: Oh well, I'm able to make records that So for example,
- 8:29Speaker 1: I have a song called Blessed Right and it just
- 8:31Speaker 1: basically says on the album, basically says I have everything
- 8:34Speaker 1: I need and it's a mixture of afrobeat with gospel.
- 8:38Speaker 1: You know, that's a one version. Then I have a
- 8:40Speaker 1: version of you know when I met her in essence
- 8:44Speaker 1: and I wrote from the perspective of I don't need
- 8:47Speaker 1: nobody else, it's you, and put it on some cool drums.
- 8:49Speaker 1: So that love has been easy to transp because it's
- 8:54Speaker 1: transcribed because it's just naturally what's going on. And me
- 8:58Speaker 1: and Punch we did this whole project together. So my
- 9:01Speaker 1: stories are easy to convey to my brother, you know,
- 9:03Speaker 1: and so we're able just to get these going. But
- 9:05Speaker 1: as a father, you know, like you said earlier, like
- 9:07Speaker 1: before we even started, just being able to look in
- 9:11Speaker 1: my kids eyes and say yo, like I have no
- 9:14Speaker 1: choice but to win, yo, Like I have to do this.
- 9:17Speaker 1: I don't have a regular nine to five where I
- 9:20Speaker 1: can clock in, do what I need to do and
- 9:22Speaker 1: go home. I have to earn everything creatively and think ahead.
- 9:26Speaker 1: So when I look at him and he's happy and
- 9:28Speaker 1: he's doing his alphabets backwards, I'm like, I gotta fund this,
- 9:31Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so that mindset has
- 9:35Speaker 1: made me even bigger hustler when it comes down to it.
- 9:38Speaker 1: And you know, I was going through a lot of
- 9:42Speaker 1: mental issues, not issues, but mental moments where it was
- 9:46Speaker 1: like COVID at the time, and then dealing with a
- 9:50Speaker 1: woman who I genuinely love for sure, but postpartum is
- 9:53Speaker 1: a monster that men don't really talk about that we
- 9:56Speaker 1: got to deal with as well, and being giving and
- 10:00Speaker 1: giving and giving. So I was going through so much
- 10:02Speaker 1: at the time that music was my therapy. So that's
- 10:05Speaker 1: why it took so long to make this next, this
- 10:07Speaker 1: project now, because one I had to get myself right
- 10:09Speaker 1: mentally and then make sure my family was good and
- 10:12Speaker 1: then kill a lot of my bad habits of who
- 10:15Speaker 1: I was before I go to the next stage. Now,
- 10:18Speaker 1: did you have to go to Derby? Yeah? I did,
- 10:20Speaker 1: I did. I tried it. I tried it. What made
- 10:22Speaker 1: you try it to? Because I'm usually the guy that
- 10:27Speaker 1: everyone goes to for answers. I'm using the guy that
- 10:29Speaker 1: everyone goes to for prayer. I'm using a guy that
- 10:31Speaker 1: everyone goes to, like, Yo, can you help me through this?
- 10:34Speaker 1: And when you're like a leader, or who do you
- 10:40Speaker 1: go to? You know? And my wife definitely is there.
- 10:43Speaker 1: But there's certain things men go through that no one
- 10:45Speaker 1: else can really and a lot of people don't go
- 10:48Speaker 1: through the same things I deal with on a daily
- 10:51Speaker 1: of fame and pressure and anxiety and you know, being
- 10:56Speaker 1: around people that just cloud chasing. It's a toxic industry.
- 11:01Speaker 1: So when you go through so much of that, no
- 11:04Speaker 1: one really is there to talk to. So then I
- 11:06Speaker 1: was like, God, help me. I did that. At the time,
- 11:10Speaker 1: I wasn't ready for that true conversation. Then I went
- 11:12Speaker 1: and said, let me just talk to somebody, and it
- 11:15Speaker 1: was great. But I think it's really important to have
- 11:19Speaker 1: the right therapist too, absolutely, you know. So it didn't
- 11:23Speaker 1: really match. And then that didn't work, but I could
- 11:26Speaker 1: see how it does work. Then it was like, no,
- 11:29Speaker 1: let me just let me just go to the Bible. Man,
- 11:33Speaker 1: let me just go to the Bible. And then I
- 11:35Speaker 1: just opened up Peter, and Peter became my therapist. You
- 11:39Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I just kept reading the Bible,
- 11:41Speaker 1: I read James and like, those two books changed my
- 11:44Speaker 1: mindset and just gave me like the guideline of how
- 11:47Speaker 1: to be a good man and a cerebral man. And
- 11:50Speaker 1: so that changed my life. Man, I genuinely changed my life.
- 11:52Speaker 1: So therapy helped open the door. But then I just
- 11:55Speaker 1: used God and disciples as my therapist. But you're going
- 11:58Speaker 1: through depression. Is that why you said I have to
- 12:00Speaker 1: see therapy. Was it something that you was like, I
- 12:02Speaker 1: need some help? Like what got you to the point
- 12:04Speaker 1: where was like I need this help? Was it anxiety?
- 12:07Speaker 1: Was it? Yeah? It was it was anxiety. It was
- 12:10Speaker 1: anxiety that I never felt before. It was feeling like
- 12:14Speaker 1: at the time I really couldn't speak to anybody, that
- 12:16Speaker 1: the world is shut down. And then also I had
- 12:20Speaker 1: a hit record, like so in my bed was going
- 12:22Speaker 1: ridiculous at that time, but I couldn't travel, you know,
- 12:25Speaker 1: so I couldn't promote it the way it needed to promote.
- 12:27Speaker 1: So you're seeing it go viral, but you're like, damn,
- 12:30Speaker 1: I can't even really do anything, you know, And so
- 12:32Speaker 1: that also played into it. But then it was also
- 12:35Speaker 1: just like you're not able to move, so you're starting
- 12:38Speaker 1: to see the bank account go a little, you know,
- 12:40Speaker 1: and so you're just like, hey, I never felt this.
- 12:42Speaker 1: I've always been good, and so being able to start
- 12:47Speaker 1: viewing self awareness like Okay, why do I feel this way?
- 12:49Speaker 1: What are my triggers? What do I go through that
- 12:52Speaker 1: makes me say? Okay? Let me use this as an outlet.
- 12:56Speaker 1: Who am I like? And I didn't have those answers
- 12:59Speaker 1: at the time, and I was praying, but I wasn't
- 13:01Speaker 1: as close to God as I am now, and it
- 13:03Speaker 1: was just like, man, I just need to talk to
- 13:05Speaker 1: another person, you know, with an unbiased and just give
- 13:08Speaker 1: me some advice. And I did it, and it was beautiful.
- 13:11Speaker 1: It was just that I wish that well, everything happens
- 13:13Speaker 1: for the reason, but I could see how it works
- 13:15Speaker 1: for people, and I just said, okay, you know, no more,
- 13:18Speaker 1: no more trying to tough it out. Why Why am
- 13:19Speaker 1: I toughing it out when I'm hurting myself? You know?
- 13:22Speaker 1: And I think as black men, we need and people
- 13:24Speaker 1: in general, as black men, we need to be okay
- 13:28Speaker 1: with being vulnerable. We need to be okay with dealing
- 13:31Speaker 1: with insecurities. We need to because it makes you strong
- 13:33Speaker 1: when you attack them, you know, and and starve the
- 13:37Speaker 1: things that you think are vices, you know. And so
- 13:39Speaker 1: I did that. I stopped drinking, stop smoking, stop doing
- 13:42Speaker 1: everything I was doing, and really just said, you know
- 13:44Speaker 1: this two years is going to be about me before
- 13:47Speaker 1: I even write a record. And that's when when I
- 13:49Speaker 1: got right. It was when everything just started falling in
- 13:53Speaker 1: my together. You know, are you drinking too much, were
- 13:56Speaker 1: you're smoking too much? Or where is it controlling your
- 13:59Speaker 1: life to the point where you it's like I have
- 14:00Speaker 1: to stop. It wasn't like an addiction, right, but it
- 14:03Speaker 1: was more of like for ten years of my life
- 14:07Speaker 1: through a whole power run, through music, through having platinum records.
- 14:11Speaker 1: You're in the club and doing this three four days
- 14:13Speaker 1: a week, so liquld becomes a vice. Liquld becomes and
- 14:17Speaker 1: then you're having some time you didn't even realize social
- 14:19Speaker 1: anxieties or things. So you're like, damn, I don't want
- 14:22Speaker 1: to really talk to these people, but this is soothing me,
- 14:24Speaker 1: so let me drink this to get through the moment,
- 14:28Speaker 1: you know. So you don't realize and then you're like, damn,
- 14:31Speaker 1: I gotta show I'm on tour and the like, why
- 14:33Speaker 1: do I feel like I need to drink a little
- 14:35Speaker 1: bit before I hit the stage? Man? Yeah, you know
- 14:37Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know, as a community, you know
- 14:40Speaker 1: you're on stage.
- 14:40Speaker 2: You've had the same thing. Yep, And now I don't.
- 14:43Speaker 1: I don't.
- 14:43Speaker 2: Well, when I was pregnant, of course I couldn't drink,
- 14:46Speaker 2: but before that I did stop, like, yo, why do
- 14:49Speaker 2: I need a going It's just like that nervousness and
- 14:52Speaker 2: anxiety and you didn't even know it's that until you
- 14:55Speaker 2: go through something and you're like, damn, I don't need
- 14:57Speaker 2: that exactly.
- 14:58Speaker 1: And so for me it was like not again, it
- 15:01Speaker 1: was it was a it was a crutch, not rather,
- 15:04Speaker 1: not a dittion. I didn't need it, but it was like, oh,
- 15:07Speaker 1: this is good for what I need right now, you know,
- 15:09Speaker 1: and smoking and things like that, and it was just
- 15:12Speaker 1: like escape, you know. And so when I realized, damn,
- 15:15Speaker 1: I'm using this as an escape rather than just for
- 15:17Speaker 1: joy or pleasure of whatever. I don't I don't want that,
- 15:20Speaker 1: it's how do you deal with it now? Because your
- 15:22Speaker 1: life still wraps around clubs in the industry, I'm sure
- 15:26Speaker 1: you still have those anxieties of going to a club
- 15:28Speaker 1: and not want to talk to people or performing on stage.
- 15:30Speaker 1: How do you deal with that? Now? I think I
- 15:32Speaker 1: realized that that vices and liquor and things are are
- 15:37Speaker 1: the isn't the problem? I realized that there was. That's
- 15:41Speaker 1: just the solution. It's not the problem. It's a deeper
- 15:46Speaker 1: thing that it's it's me. So once I started getting
- 15:50Speaker 1: knee whole, Once I started realizing, yo, you are enough, bro.
- 15:53Speaker 1: Once I started realizing there's a relationship with God that
- 15:59Speaker 1: needs to be top tapped, and more, once I started
- 16:01Speaker 1: realizing that the devil is a liar, you know, Once
- 16:04Speaker 1: I started realizing self awareness is going to change this.
- 16:08Speaker 1: Once I got me right, I didn't need those things.
- 16:11Speaker 1: I liked how I felt better without them, actually, you
- 16:14Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's like it wasn't a solution.
- 16:16Speaker 1: It was it was a solution to a problem that
- 16:18Speaker 1: I had to work in within myself, you know. And
- 16:21Speaker 1: so once I realized that it took the power away
- 16:23Speaker 1: from anything, you know, I didn't need validation even and
- 16:27Speaker 1: in this industry you get so used to getting validated
- 16:29Speaker 1: and you're lit. It becomes oh, this is how I
- 16:33Speaker 1: need to feel. It's a normal thing. So when you're
- 16:35Speaker 1: not getting that at times, it's like, what's wrong with me?
- 16:39Speaker 1: What changed? What happened? You know? And so even going
- 16:42Speaker 1: through that, so just I tell my boys and tell
- 16:44Speaker 1: people like, listen, man, it's okay to use these things
- 16:47Speaker 1: as testimony because more people are going through these things
- 16:50Speaker 1: than not, you know. And so when you can see
- 16:52Speaker 1: somebody who's just happens to be in a public space,
- 16:56Speaker 1: I'm no different from you.
- 16:57Speaker 2: You know.
- 16:58Speaker 1: I just worked on myself, you know, I did the
- 17:00Speaker 1: little things. And again it is not a saying an addiction.
- 17:03Speaker 1: It's just I know that when there was an issue,
- 17:05Speaker 1: i'd run to something or you know, and so I
- 17:07Speaker 1: just would make it where I didn't run to anything.
- 17:10Speaker 1: I just ran to God and I ran to myself
- 17:13Speaker 1: and my family, you know. And so that was what
- 17:14Speaker 1: it was.
- 17:15Speaker 2: I love hearing that you got the song Bestie, Yes
- 17:17Speaker 2: you sampled from the Lauren Hills killing Me Softly? Did
- 17:20Speaker 2: she need to hear that before you?
- 17:22Speaker 1: Yes she did.
- 17:23Speaker 2: How was it working with her even even just let
- 17:27Speaker 2: her hear that?
- 17:28Speaker 1: So Bessie is one of my favorite records on the album,
- 17:32Speaker 1: and it's one of those songs that is divine man.
- 17:34Speaker 1: So Lauren Hill went to my high school. So we
- 17:37Speaker 1: all went to me, Sizza, Lauryn Hill, a lot of
- 17:42Speaker 1: other people, you know what I mean, and so yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 17:46Speaker 1: so yeah. So we all from that, from that cloth,
- 17:50Speaker 1: and it was amazing because full circle really quickly. I
- 17:55Speaker 1: was a freshman when she came and did her Hall
- 17:56Speaker 1: of Fame speech. So I was third roll sitting watching
- 18:00Speaker 1: her get her speech, and I'm like, man, I'm telling
- 18:02Speaker 1: my boy, I'm like, yo, bro, Like I'm gonna do that, bro.
- 18:05Speaker 1: And they don't really give They give it like maybe
- 18:07Speaker 1: every ten years to somebody, you know. And I was like,
- 18:11Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be me, bro, And it's like, there's
- 18:12Speaker 1: like four thousand people that go to our school, so
- 18:15Speaker 1: the odds of it being you is not really likely.
- 18:17Speaker 1: So and I just worked, worked, work, and I did
- 18:20Speaker 1: the little things, man. And in twenty eighteen, I was
- 18:24Speaker 1: inducted to my high school Hall offesto, you know what
- 18:26Speaker 1: I mean. And I brought my boy, who I told
- 18:28Speaker 1: I'm gonna don't you know. And then but also that
- 18:31Speaker 1: same year, Sissa was invited as well to the Hall
- 18:35Speaker 1: of Fame. So she and and a lot of people
- 18:37Speaker 1: don't understand that when we grew up, like I was
- 18:40Speaker 1: a ballplayer, singing girls, that popular kid, and she was
- 18:45Speaker 1: like kind of like an outcast, you know what I
- 18:46Speaker 1: mean to herself. Really didn't and she'll talk about it.
- 18:49Speaker 1: But I was always been like, yo, come hang out
- 18:51Speaker 1: with us, come kick it with us, when everybody was
- 18:53Speaker 1: like pushing away, pushing away because we didn't understand the
- 18:56Speaker 1: swag then like she was swaggy like this this then
- 18:59Speaker 1: you know, so it's different, you know, and it was
- 19:02Speaker 1: like whatever, So so it was dope to hear, you know,
- 19:05Speaker 1: acknowledge that in her speech to that, you know, like
- 19:07Speaker 1: Rod took care of me when I was in school.
- 19:08Speaker 1: But do you call it now? But like your remember
- 19:10Speaker 1: when the whole school was against you, charged about it
- 19:15Speaker 1: right now, But remember it's so dope because during the
- 19:23Speaker 1: time that love rhythm was going crazy and my bed
- 19:25Speaker 1: was going crazy, and then she called me and was like, yo,
- 19:29Speaker 1: I love what you're doing. Let's get it. It's going
- 19:31Speaker 1: And then literally when like two weeks later, her stuff
- 19:35Speaker 1: started going bsurd and it was like okay, Uhlana, you
- 19:42Speaker 1: remember that song that you said it goes in this
- 19:44Speaker 1: and me td you know, one, you know, So it
- 19:48Speaker 1: was it was cool, but you have to respect it.
- 19:51Speaker 1: But sorry, So Lauren Hill she heard the record, thank
- 19:54Speaker 1: god for Empire to clear it, but she had to
- 19:56Speaker 1: clear it first. But I wasn't there when she heard
- 19:58Speaker 1: it though. But but yeah, from what I heard, it
- 20:01Speaker 1: was love. And you know, again like having a legend.
- 20:05Speaker 1: You know, I've used her sample twice actually, you know,
- 20:07Speaker 1: from in my bed. Oh yeah, you know. And so
- 20:10Speaker 1: it's always paying homage, you know. And so that record
- 20:12Speaker 1: doing well was really cool. But yeah, it's been it's
- 20:15Speaker 1: been a it's been a it's been a beautiful journey,
- 20:17Speaker 1: beautiful journey.
- 20:17Speaker 2: Speaking bed. Do you ever feel pressure to match the
- 20:21Speaker 2: success of Lover for them or in my bed?
- 20:24Speaker 1: Uh? As a competitor, yes, you know what I mean.
- 20:28Speaker 1: As a dog, yes, but you know it's it's it's
- 20:31Speaker 1: this moment you know there. Oh yeah, and that's but
- 20:34Speaker 1: the thing is too, I was making those type of
- 20:38Speaker 1: records right while I was feeling power, right, so the
- 20:41Speaker 1: label will be like, yo, dog, you got two days
- 20:43Speaker 1: to make a hit, Go to la do what you
- 20:45Speaker 1: need to do. I was never able to comfortably make
- 20:50Speaker 1: music like these other artists are able to do so
- 20:53Speaker 1: I was thank God for the talent. I was able
- 20:55Speaker 1: to go make a record, go back to set. While
- 20:58Speaker 1: I'm making a record, studying my lines in the booth,
- 21:01Speaker 1: there's a meeting. All right, so's supposed to okay? Cool?
- 21:05Speaker 1: Got it? Like I'm getting that, and thank god it
- 21:08Speaker 1: was able to go platinum. But at the same time,
- 21:11Speaker 1: I never had the opportunity that other artists had. So
- 21:15Speaker 1: now I was like, ro let me get yourself right,
- 21:18Speaker 1: take care of your family. This is a season that
- 21:20Speaker 1: you're supposed to grow home because when it goes crazy again,
- 21:24Speaker 1: the foundation got to be solid. That's why you're sitting down,
- 21:26Speaker 1: you know. So then it was like, okay, but in
- 21:29Speaker 1: the meantime, let's make the best music possible. So that's
- 21:33Speaker 1: why this project took two years, because I wanted to
- 21:36Speaker 1: make eighteen in my bed moments, you know what I
- 21:40Speaker 1: mean with this double album, and so I feel comfortable.
- 21:43Speaker 1: I was able to take my time, visualize it. And
- 21:46Speaker 1: the cool thing about it is that I was doing
- 21:49Speaker 1: in my bed and servicing my afrobeat fans instead of
- 21:53Speaker 1: the R and B side would be like, yo, where's
- 21:54Speaker 1: our record? You know, And so now we were like,
- 21:57Speaker 1: let's literally make a double album nine records, Afrobeat, nine records,
- 22:02Speaker 1: R and b's called in My Heart for the R
- 22:04Speaker 1: and B side, in My Veins for the Nigerian Blood.
- 22:07Speaker 1: So you get in two versions of row timmy full
- 22:10Speaker 1: album and these are my life stories, you know. But
- 22:14Speaker 1: then it was like yo, some people just like the
- 22:16Speaker 1: acting side, So like, let's figure this out. Let's fund
- 22:21Speaker 1: and pay for every music video to be shot. So
- 22:24Speaker 1: we put, we put money down, we put I put
- 22:27Speaker 1: about a quarter million and make every video. And then
- 22:30Speaker 1: then the labels like, yo, we got ten songs for you, bro,
- 22:33Speaker 1: we can only do ten. I was like, now I
- 22:35Speaker 1: don't want to do ten, I want to do eighteen.
- 22:37Speaker 1: Well okay, well you gotta pay for it. Pay for
- 22:41Speaker 1: the other eight paid. The producer paid everything. So it
- 22:44Speaker 1: was like again I tell artists or people man like,
- 22:47Speaker 1: you have to invest in yourself. You gotta believe in
- 22:50Speaker 1: yourself because I know what this is gonna do and
- 22:53Speaker 1: you may not see it right now, but I know
- 22:55Speaker 1: what this is gonna do, so let me take this
- 22:57Speaker 1: upon myself to make it happen with no question. So
- 23:01Speaker 1: they were like, we could do two record, two videos.
- 23:04Speaker 1: It was like all right, cool that standard. This is
- 23:05Speaker 1: great stuff, thank you, you know what I mean. But
- 23:07Speaker 1: now we're doing eighteen. You know, we're gonna service it
- 23:09Speaker 1: out for everybody to be able to have a moment
- 23:12Speaker 1: with this song because it's real to me acting as well.
- 23:15Speaker 1: So you get in the R and B side, you're
- 23:17Speaker 1: getting the afro B side, and you're getting the actor,
- 23:19Speaker 1: you know, and I directed everything, you know what I mean,
- 23:22Speaker 1: And so shout out to Beyonce because I know Beyonce
- 23:24Speaker 1: has done something whereas the double album and you know,
- 23:26Speaker 1: but what we're doing differently is we're treating every song
- 23:31Speaker 1: like a single. So the album drops, every song is out,
- 23:36Speaker 1: but every three weeks you're gonna get a new video.
- 23:39Speaker 1: So you're gonna be getting new content from the same
- 23:42Speaker 1: project for about seven eight months.
- 23:44Speaker 2: This is the real definition of a body of work,
- 23:46Speaker 2: a body of work.
- 23:47Speaker 1: I was like, yo, Like, if I'm gonna I'm not
- 23:50Speaker 1: gonna come out and do everything that a regular artists go.
- 23:53Speaker 1: Two weeks, they do promo and then you don't hear
- 23:55Speaker 1: nothing else that's done. Nah, I work too hard for this, yo.
- 23:58Speaker 1: I put my life on this. I put a half
- 24:00Speaker 1: a million into this thing on my own it has
- 24:02Speaker 1: to work. So we're gonna melt this, make it go,
- 24:05Speaker 1: make the music undeniable. You're not a messy artist. You're
- 24:07Speaker 1: not talking to somebody that's gonna talk about somebody like I know, bro,
- 24:11Speaker 1: Like I know I can get up here and have
- 24:13Speaker 1: three strippers and put a thousand dollars on each of
- 24:15Speaker 1: the ass and be like, it's up, what's up. Yeah,
- 24:19Speaker 1: I'm single and it's gonna go viral, and then listen
- 24:24Speaker 1: to the breakup song about my woman. Then everybody listening
- 24:26Speaker 1: to I know, take that clip and say that you
- 24:28Speaker 1: wanted to be We're gonna cut that up, so go ahead,
- 24:32Speaker 1: go yeah, well you know what I mean. I know
- 24:35Speaker 1: I can do that. I know I can manipulate the
- 24:37Speaker 1: system because it's what it is. People like that type
- 24:40Speaker 1: of you.
- 24:40Speaker 2: Have done that before, because I was looking at an
- 24:43Speaker 2: interview where you said it was Fitty's idea to say
- 24:45Speaker 2: that you owe him money to keep the momentimum.
- 24:48Speaker 1: Going yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. So Love with Them Loved
- 24:53Speaker 1: Them was number one at the time, and he was like, yo, bro,
- 24:56Speaker 1: honestly I got this idea, man, Like, Okay, I I left,
- 25:00Speaker 1: I got out. My deal with fifty was a deal
- 25:03Speaker 1: or it was a two album deal, but I had
- 25:06Speaker 1: one more and I said, bro, I want to do
- 25:07Speaker 1: this on my own. You know, I believe in this,
- 25:10Speaker 1: And why did you want to get out? Did you
- 25:11Speaker 1: feel like no? I think I think at the time
- 25:14Speaker 1: there was a lot he had just fired everybody, you know,
- 25:16Speaker 1: and so like there was a lot going on at
- 25:19Speaker 1: the time, and the show was so on fire that
- 25:22Speaker 1: it was like, there's no way that there could be
- 25:25Speaker 1: focused on what this is at this particular time, especially
- 25:28Speaker 1: because my character's going O d Lin crazy. Yeah what
- 25:30Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I'm like, let me just take myself
- 25:33Speaker 1: out of this because at the timing wasn't right to
- 25:38Speaker 1: be a focus. So I was like, let me just
- 25:40Speaker 1: bet on myself, you know what I mean. And thank
- 25:42Speaker 1: God for his his his his love for me and
- 25:44Speaker 1: his wisdom. He was like, look, I'll let you out,
- 25:47Speaker 1: but you know, mechanically, you owe me three hundred thousand
- 25:51Speaker 1: for the investment that I've put in there. So I
- 25:53Speaker 1: had to pay him back mechanically. So from the sales
- 25:55Speaker 1: of my project product is how he'll get paid back,
- 25:58Speaker 1: which is standard, you know what I mean. So like
- 26:01Speaker 1: I didn't have to give him three hundred thousand like this.
- 26:03Speaker 1: But over time, whatever records I do work with with
- 26:06Speaker 1: whoever I work with, next they get he gets that money.
- 26:09Speaker 1: So the record we put the song out, Love Rhythm
- 26:12Speaker 1: is number one R and B album, Going Crazy, and
- 26:15Speaker 1: he calls me. He's like, look, bro, I got this idea.
- 26:18Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I don't like you. I'm gonna say
- 26:21Speaker 1: I want to punch you in your nose. I'm gonna
- 26:22Speaker 1: tell you I don't I'm gonna rock with you what's
- 26:25Speaker 1: in there. But the thing I'm gonna do is I'm
- 26:26Speaker 1: gonna mention twenty five times that how can this nigga
- 26:30Speaker 1: not pay me when his album is number one? So
- 26:33Speaker 1: when he did that, the psychological psychology of people is like,
- 26:36Speaker 1: what am I missing? Wait? Rog got a number one album?
- 26:38Speaker 1: Where what's going on? And that's that's how it blew,
- 26:41Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that's Genie's marketing, definitely
- 26:44Speaker 1: thousand and his marketing, you know what I mean. So
- 26:49Speaker 1: it worked because he got his money back in like
- 26:51Speaker 1: four months, you know what I mean. So it works.
- 26:53Speaker 1: But at the same time, yes, I know I can
- 26:56Speaker 1: do those things, you know, And for me, I was
- 26:59Speaker 1: like though only way I can combat gimmicks and being
- 27:02Speaker 1: messy and things that just make undeniable product that lives forever.
- 27:07Speaker 1: You know. That's why in my heart, in my veins
- 27:09Speaker 1: feels like that man. And that's how I grew up.
- 27:12Speaker 1: Like being from Jersey, there was no cutting corners, there
- 27:15Speaker 1: was no you have to work for what you got,
- 27:17Speaker 1: you know. Being Nigerian either as well, I didn't cut corners,
- 27:21Speaker 1: you know. I did the little things, you know what
- 27:22Speaker 1: I mean. So that's what it was for me. I understand,
- 27:27Speaker 1: I understood very early, like the little things is will
- 27:29Speaker 1: keep you around the longevity. Where when was the last
- 27:33Speaker 1: time you go to your job and you shake everybody's hand,
- 27:35Speaker 1: you know, look everybody in the eye, remember everybody's name.
- 27:39Speaker 1: That changes the room, that changes the energy. When is
- 27:42Speaker 1: the last time you ask how are you? And genuinely listen?
- 27:45Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, so whenever i'm I
- 27:48Speaker 1: carried those things and those principles got me to where
- 27:53Speaker 1: I am. Along with everything else, but those things people remember,
- 27:56Speaker 1: you know. And so I was like, I'm not gonna
- 27:58Speaker 1: cut no corners, you know, let's do it. This is
- 28:00Speaker 1: who I am. I am in a relationship, I do that, kids.
- 28:03Speaker 1: I am fly, I do make great music. I am
- 28:05Speaker 1: an actor. Let's let's let's write about it and let's
- 28:09Speaker 1: talk about it and be pure about it. Now, an actor,
- 28:11Speaker 1: do you like being the villain? Because we've seen you
- 28:12Speaker 1: in the villain in power shows. We've seen you even
- 28:16Speaker 1: with joining Lucas, we see you as the villainy and
- 28:19Speaker 1: sometimes I don't like you know, the joint of Lucas
- 28:25Speaker 1: made me. I'm like, I don't like them. I have
- 28:28Speaker 1: to remember, I know, but it makes me not like them.
- 28:31Speaker 1: Like do you like playing the villain? Uh? Okay, yes,
- 28:37Speaker 1: but but in doses now you know what I mean?
- 28:40Speaker 1: Like when you play something like Dre Man, that's polarizing, bro,
- 28:43Speaker 1: and like, I know what that. If I was just
- 28:46Speaker 1: an actor, that would be the most amazing thing to
- 28:50Speaker 1: deal with being like, damn, bro, you killed that. But
- 28:53Speaker 1: I got a whole different other side, you know. So
- 28:55Speaker 1: it made music ten times harder, you know, you know,
- 29:00Speaker 1: because how do you have you got the number one
- 29:01Speaker 1: shows a villain, but then you got a number one
- 29:03Speaker 1: record that's R and B in love.
- 29:05Speaker 2: So it's like you made me so man on how anyone.
- 29:09Speaker 1: Exactly? When it come on it's just like, you know
- 29:12Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So like that made it tougher, so
- 29:16Speaker 1: I had to get over. I had a conversation actually
- 29:17Speaker 1: with Tyres about it, like, bro, how do you do this? Man?
- 29:20Speaker 1: Like that was a long conversation. I bet y'all just
- 29:24Speaker 1: finished that shit. So I had a conversation with him.
- 29:28Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, like, how do you do this? Man?
- 29:30Speaker 1: It was lit how you explained to me. It was
- 29:31Speaker 1: just like, carry the vessel that's bringing you to where
- 29:35Speaker 1: you are. Just carry that, make people want to know
- 29:37Speaker 1: who that person is. Kill that to the point where yo,
- 29:41Speaker 1: who is this tray guy? And then be ready with
- 29:43Speaker 1: what you have. That's the only way you can do
- 29:45Speaker 1: both and be successful. So I took that and Jamie
- 29:48Speaker 1: actually said the same thing too, So it was like, oh,
- 29:50Speaker 1: this is how y'all did it?
- 29:51Speaker 2: You know.
- 29:51Speaker 1: So when I got that information, it was body dre
- 29:55Speaker 1: and let people learn about ro Timmy, you know. And
- 29:57Speaker 1: So to answer your question about the the villain joining Lucas,
- 30:03Speaker 1: I told I said no twice, like I was like
- 30:06Speaker 1: really yeah, I was like no, that it was dope,
- 30:08Speaker 1: Like it's a dope changed. It was incredible, I said, finally, say, yes,
- 30:14Speaker 1: it was. It was a good money. I was like
- 30:16Speaker 1: the bad guy, right, you know, and I'm a fan
- 30:18Speaker 1: of his. But I didn't want to do videos like
- 30:20Speaker 1: I didn't want to and I wasn't to be a
- 30:22Speaker 1: video mixer. I didn't want to be exactly yeah, exactly,
- 30:25Speaker 1: I didn't you know what I'm saying. You know what
- 30:27Speaker 1: I'm saying. I didn't want that. I didn't want that
- 30:28Speaker 1: because I had been so quiet musically for a while.
- 30:30Speaker 1: I want the first thing that people see is that
- 30:33Speaker 1: like always doing videos now, Like I didn't perception, you know.
- 30:36Speaker 1: But the bread was amazing. Then I actually heard the
- 30:39Speaker 1: record as well, and I was like, oh, this is
- 30:42Speaker 1: like a one man show, a straight monologue that I
- 30:45Speaker 1: gotta really study because it is about It was about
- 30:49Speaker 1: fifteen twenty pages of transcribed lyrics, and I got to
- 30:53Speaker 1: match his whole energy and switch up, and I was like, Oh,
- 30:56Speaker 1: this is gonna be fun, you know, And I mean
- 30:58Speaker 1: I think we should have want to. Yeah.
- 31:00Speaker 2: Usually Joiners music videos are like motion pictures.
- 31:04Speaker 1: It's phenomenal drama series, it's phenomenal. Yeah. So, but but
- 31:08Speaker 1: at this point, I thank god for Lena wafe Man
- 31:10Speaker 1: because this new character that I'm playing on The Shy
- 31:14Speaker 1: is completely different, you know, And so now I'm seeking
- 31:18Speaker 1: roles that are completely the opposite way because there's so
- 31:20Speaker 1: much more to me. I can do that easy. That's
- 31:23Speaker 1: I grew up around a lot of dre's, you know
- 31:24Speaker 1: what I mean. I grew up around niggas like this
- 31:26Speaker 1: all the time. So for me, it's just like, let's
- 31:29Speaker 1: show the other aspects of Huro timmy is and all
- 31:31Speaker 1: the ranges that I have. So the newest character on
- 31:34Speaker 1: the Shy, and it's been amazing. Man, we filmed season seven.
- 31:38Speaker 1: I was only Again. This goes back to just being
- 31:40Speaker 1: a good person. Like I met Lena ten years ago
- 31:43Speaker 1: at Sundance. Me and John Boyega did a movie Imperial Dreams,
- 31:48Speaker 1: and she had won for Dear White People, and energy was, yo,
- 31:53Speaker 1: how are you. You're amazing, You're great, and she was
- 31:56Speaker 1: coming up, I'm coming up, and it was we just
- 31:58Speaker 1: stayed close and making sure she was good. We haven't
- 32:01Speaker 1: seen it. I still haven't seen Lena since twenty and fourteen. Still,
- 32:06Speaker 1: but every year I'm saying Happy Birthday, having this, sending gifts.
- 32:10Speaker 1: She's sending me kids for my kids, She's sending me
- 32:13Speaker 1: things for you know, Happy Father's Day, all this, so
- 32:15Speaker 1: we love. Then she finally calls like, y'all got a
- 32:17Speaker 1: roll for you if you want to come do an episode,
- 32:19Speaker 1: you know, an episode or two? Are you working right now?
- 32:21Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I'm not. She was like, all right, cool,
- 32:24Speaker 1: let's come to Chicago. Got something for you and two
- 32:27Speaker 1: you know again you gotta take to try to tell
- 32:31Speaker 1: my story but also give, you know, as much as
- 32:33Speaker 1: I can. Where I was only given two episodes, but
- 32:39Speaker 1: with those two episodes, I bodied it to the point
- 32:42Speaker 1: where it's like I want him for the whole season
- 32:45Speaker 1: and hopefully God will for beyond whenever. You know, But
- 32:49Speaker 1: every time you get an opportunity in any field, yo,
- 32:52Speaker 1: you don't know who's watching, You don't know what's going on,
- 32:55Speaker 1: you don't know what hand you just shook, you don't
- 32:59Speaker 1: know how you acted that person's life. You don't know
- 33:02Speaker 1: how far this could go. So maximize every opportunity you
- 33:07Speaker 1: can because they don't come often. And so when I
- 33:12Speaker 1: understood that, I realized, Okay, you know, this is how
- 33:15Speaker 1: you do it. But then also being a good person
- 33:17Speaker 1: and also maximizing the moment, you know, it always happens
- 33:20Speaker 1: Now people were mad at you because you said that
- 33:23Speaker 1: you brought afrobeats to America. You still stand by that absolutely,
- 33:27Speaker 1: but the way it was worded was crazy. Right. So
- 33:31Speaker 1: I was the first American Nigerian to bring afrobeats to
- 33:37Speaker 1: a place where Americans were able to digest it on radio. Right.
- 33:42Speaker 1: So for example, I was going to program directors and
- 33:46Speaker 1: plan love rhythm and being they were like, yo, I
- 33:48Speaker 1: don't even know how to what's the beat on rhythm?
- 33:51Speaker 1: On this?
- 33:52Speaker 2: This?
- 33:52Speaker 1: What is this? I was in those moments, so when
- 33:55Speaker 1: I started doing it, it became a oh, I like
- 33:59Speaker 1: this Also doesn't mean that there weren't people before that
- 34:04Speaker 1: were doing it, had moments, but because I am from here,
- 34:07Speaker 1: and because it's relatable, because mister Butterscott's was doing what
- 34:11Speaker 1: it needs, they're so like and what I'm saying is
- 34:13Speaker 1: digestible and understood like it felt inclusive. So it was
- 34:18Speaker 1: a pacifier to start the movement here, not necessarily them
- 34:22Speaker 1: bringing it Wiz and they were always lit. But in
- 34:25Speaker 1: terms of the timing, Whiz then had the record with Drake,
- 34:30Speaker 1: then the Veto came out, so it was all the
- 34:33Speaker 1: same time. But for me it was I remember going
- 34:37Speaker 1: to program directors. They didn't even know what it was,
- 34:40Speaker 1: and so now this record's going crazy. It becomes oh,
- 34:43Speaker 1: I like this, Oh that's what it was. Yeah, okay,
- 34:46Speaker 1: And then I came back with in my Bed, so
- 34:48Speaker 1: it was like, oh, I was the only one besides
- 34:51Speaker 1: really Chris Brown that's out here that's really doing it
- 34:54Speaker 1: where it feels like, oh, it's a bridge. So I
- 34:57Speaker 1: was definitely would say I was the bridge and that however,
- 35:02Speaker 1: the Burners and DAVIDO and Wiz and all them, Yes,
- 35:05Speaker 1: of course if affected the world. But I remember going
- 35:08Speaker 1: to those moments where they didn't hear the one dance,
- 35:11Speaker 1: yet they didn't hear the I gotta ask people were
- 35:14Speaker 1: upset with Chris Brown, right, were not upset with Chris
- 35:16Speaker 1: Brown the Academy because they were saying that Chris Brown
- 35:19Speaker 1: is an American artist and he shouldn't be in the
- 35:21Speaker 1: afrobeats category. What's your thoughts on that. I believe that
- 35:25Speaker 1: he definitely should. Music is music. Music is music, bro,
- 35:28Speaker 1: Like That's what I'm saying. We get so crazy with
- 35:30Speaker 1: this trying to box people into things like is it
- 35:34Speaker 1: an afrobeat record? Yes? Is he? Is it one of
- 35:39Speaker 1: the best afrobeat records. Yes, so yes, he should be
- 35:42Speaker 1: in the afrobeat category.
- 35:45Speaker 2: And it goes the other way too, because last year
- 35:48Speaker 2: Tyler won a Grammy over Sexy Red right, So it's
- 35:52Speaker 2: like if we can you know what I'm saying, it's
- 35:55Speaker 2: just still like a brisk Like if afrobeats can win
- 35:58Speaker 2: over win in the category where it's just you know
- 36:01Speaker 2: what was that. I think it was like rap or
- 36:03Speaker 2: new Artists or something like that, why can't Chris Brown
- 36:06Speaker 2: win or even be nominated in the afrobeat.
- 36:09Speaker 1: No music has no bounds, man, that's what makes it
- 36:11Speaker 1: so beautiful. Like music has no that's saying, Yo, you
- 36:15Speaker 1: can't do this and you can't do that. Oh you
- 36:17Speaker 1: can't act and you can't sing. Oh you can't be
- 36:20Speaker 1: a host of a legendary show and then also be
- 36:22Speaker 1: a DJ. You can't do this and be like stupid.
- 36:25Speaker 1: Just no, I'm just dope, you know what I mean.
- 36:27Speaker 1: And so that's why for us it was like, let's
- 36:30Speaker 1: spoon feed the people. This is an R and B album,
- 36:34Speaker 1: this is an afro B album. If we win records
- 36:37Speaker 1: on this, then we win records. I mean, remember wars
- 36:39Speaker 1: on this. Then it's it's still the same project, but
- 36:42Speaker 1: you put it where you want to put it, you know,
- 36:44Speaker 1: And so that's how it was. But not definitely. Chris
- 36:46Speaker 1: Brown is one of the greatest I ever don it, bro, Like,
- 36:49Speaker 1: only few people can do it and be believed, and
- 36:51Speaker 1: I believe it, you know, and I feel like he's
- 36:53Speaker 1: the only other one for real.
- 36:54Speaker 2: What is your favorite song on the album?
- 36:57Speaker 1: Y'are honestly fam Like, We've constructed this album to be
- 37:02Speaker 1: where I can sit with you and figure out what
- 37:05Speaker 1: kind of music you love, and I'll be able to
- 37:07Speaker 1: tell you like these will work for you. I'll look
- 37:09Speaker 1: at you and be like, yo, Bro, well good bye, Okay,
- 37:12Speaker 1: these are your favorites. They're like my kids. I can't
- 37:15Speaker 1: I can't pick yeah as my favorite. But there's no single,
- 37:19Speaker 1: you know, everything is a single. So if you're like, bro,
- 37:22Speaker 1: I love I love classic R and B. I got
- 37:25Speaker 1: that for you. Like Yo, I love poppy Phil, I
- 37:27Speaker 1: got that for you all. I love hip hop drums,
- 37:29Speaker 1: I got that for you. So like it's whatever it is,
- 37:32Speaker 1: it's whoever I'm speaking to, I'll make We've tailor made
- 37:35Speaker 1: it that way.
- 37:36Speaker 2: The album is a candy store.
- 37:40Speaker 1: Yes, I got the album of the Year. I love
- 37:43Speaker 1: that I got the album of the year, he said it,
- 37:45Speaker 1: I got the album of the year, genuinely. Let's get
- 37:49Speaker 1: into a record off that album. The album is out today, Yes, sir,
- 37:52Speaker 1: what do you want to get into today?
- 37:54Speaker 2: Let's get into something off the AfroB side side.
- 37:57Speaker 1: Oh when we just all right, let's start with h Yeah,
- 38:04Speaker 1: let's go what I wonder? I wonder? Yes, sir, let's
- 38:06Speaker 1: go without Dirty December. You can follow up close Dirty December.
- 38:12Speaker 1: There's almost dirty Say you choose rather, I wonder Dirty December? Yo,
- 38:16Speaker 1: your choice? Retter. All right, well, let's get into it
- 38:18Speaker 1: now before we leave. I also got to so Christmas
- 38:19Speaker 1: is around the corner, Yes, sir, you have two kids, yeah,
- 38:22Speaker 1: and a wife? So what do you do for Christmas time? Oh? Man?
- 38:27Speaker 1: Who this is again? Traditions do you have in the household? Well,
- 38:31Speaker 1: we're still figuring out the tradition. You know what. It's
- 38:33Speaker 1: a new one, you know what I'm saying. So we're
- 38:35Speaker 1: still forming it. So I personally like, honestly, man, she's
- 38:41Speaker 1: such an incredible human being that whatever she wants to do,
- 38:44Speaker 1: if she's like, babe, for Christmas, I want to travel
- 38:46Speaker 1: to I want to go home let's go to Tanzania.
- 38:49Speaker 1: She says, Babe, I want to just be a in
- 38:52Speaker 1: the crib and we all matching whatever if you want to.
- 38:54Speaker 1: Whatever she wants to do is there's the routine, bro like,
- 38:57Speaker 1: because she deserves that, Like I've I rip and run
- 39:01Speaker 1: too much for me to make every decision. So for her,
- 39:04Speaker 1: it's like my love, what you want and whatever you
- 39:07Speaker 1: want to do, that's the tradition. What's the so happy
- 39:09Speaker 1: for him? What's the dumbest thing you've done as a
- 39:13Speaker 1: husband or a father? When I mean dumb, Yeah, I'm
- 39:17Speaker 1: the dad. Like I dressed up in a ninja turtlesuit
- 39:19Speaker 1: for Halloween. All the kids school embarrassed the ish out
- 39:22Speaker 1: of a couple of years ago, I dressed up in
- 39:24Speaker 1: a baby outfit with a pamper. I embarrassed my kid.
- 39:27Speaker 1: I love it, like my kid was like my dad.
- 39:29Speaker 1: But I just I try to create those memories that
- 39:31Speaker 1: you know when I'm long ago and they'd be like, yo,
- 39:33Speaker 1: you remember when dad came to school, and it's like
- 39:35Speaker 1: I try to think that, what's the dumbest thing that
- 39:37Speaker 1: you've done that you'd be like this takes my jersey
- 39:39Speaker 1: cool power away? Oh yeah, So me and my son
- 39:42Speaker 1: and my dad. We all matched and I had them
- 39:44Speaker 1: do a butterscotch, the butterscotch face, baby Butterscotch butterscotch and
- 39:50Speaker 1: the mini butterscotch. So like we all and they have
- 39:52Speaker 1: no idea what they just did. But in six years,
- 39:54Speaker 1: seven years, they're gonna look and be like Dad, you
- 39:56Speaker 1: just like, wow, you are a dick head, bro, Why
- 40:02Speaker 1: would you do this? It's forever, It's forever there. So yeah,
- 40:06Speaker 1: that's probably what I said. But let's get into the
- 40:08Speaker 1: joint right now. I wonder the album is out right now?
- 40:11Speaker 1: Of course it's a double album, In My Heart, in
- 40:14Speaker 1: My Veins R and B side, AFRO B side, and
- 40:16Speaker 1: we appreciate you for joining us, all right. And I
- 40:19Speaker 1: was just gonna say one last thing. Ro Timmy is
- 40:21Speaker 1: one of those artists that always call and check up
- 40:23Speaker 1: on you. Yeah, no matter what's going on in your life,
- 40:26Speaker 1: good or bad, ro Timmy will hit you just checking
- 40:29Speaker 1: up on bre you brother. I want to make sure
- 40:30Speaker 1: you good as your mental, how's your help, how's the family?
- 40:32Speaker 1: He always does that, So I just want to say,
- 40:33Speaker 1: appreciate that.
- 40:34Speaker 2: And I want to appreciate that too, because he's telling
- 40:36Speaker 2: me like I don't know, like you. My family check
- 40:39Speaker 2: up on me too, Like this is my friend, you know, I.
- 40:41Speaker 1: Do know him. What's his real name. It's Roll Timmy.
- 40:49Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake that ass up
- 40:53Speaker 1: in the morning. The Breakfast Club.