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Red Button Or Blue Button · Nick and Kristen in the Podcast

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  Hello and welcome to Nikki. Kristen in the podcast, I don't
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  even know the the episode we're on now, but we're still doing
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  it. Thank you for being here.
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  If this is your first time joining us on the podcast, I'm
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  Nick. That's Kristen.
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  We're a married team that used to be a morning show.
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  We have a daughter. We, I guess we talk about a lot
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  of parenting stuff. Yeah, I know.
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  I feel like that's what most people come to us.
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  For yeah, we've got like, because we're raising a kid and
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  we don't know what we're doing. And so if you don't know what
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  you're doing, this is a good a place for you.
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  And then, yeah, just kind of getting through unemployment
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  life. And that's what's been currently
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  on our minds and just living our lives.
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  And so if you enjoy that sort of stuff, be sure to like and
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  subscribe and feel free to comment with anything you want
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  to talk about. We'll we'll bring it up in our.
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  Conversation great if. You haven't, and Kristen's also
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  a marriage and family therapist, so if you have any therapist
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  questions that she can. That can legally answer.
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  She's like, she's not your therapist, but she.
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  If she were you. If I were you, this is what I
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  would do. We have that segment a while
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  ago, so I want to give you an update on my pursuit of
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  videography slash photography of real estate.
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  Yesterday on the podcast, you talked about how you went out to
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  a, like, empty house and you photographed because you're
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  trying to get into real estate photography and you're really
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  unhappy with the pictures. But you had shot some video,
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  which you feel is more of a strong suit for you.
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  And so you were going to go through the video today and
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  like, see whether or not it was good.
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  And I saw your face after you viewed the footage.
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  I guess it was like last night or whatever.
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  And boy oh boy, the face was long.
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  There are some key moments like so of the of the stuff that I
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  shot. It's not not horrible, OK, but
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  it's inconsistent and I I've learned a lot.
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  There was a lot I felt maybe I was in a rush for the video part
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  of it, which is unfortunate. There's there's a lot that goes
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  into it and I know all the things that go into it.
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  I just have a thing where I don't go down the checklist.
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  I just, I just do things and then I go, oh, I totally should
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  have done that. I knew to do that, but I didn't
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  do that. So yeah, it's a lot of that,
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  like the color grading and the like.
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  The technical. The white balance on stuff.
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  So some stuff is yellow, some stuff is blue, and you can fix
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  that sometimes. But then if you keep your
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  automatic white balance on, I don't know if you've ever had
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  your phone out and you walk from outside to inside and you see
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  that, how it goes dark to light, you're supposed to turn that
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  off. And I did not turn that off.
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  So there are times where I'm like, oh, this looks great and
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  then it suddenly gets dark because I hit a window or so.
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  It's like stupid, stupid stuff like that.
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  I'm not convinced I can't do it. No, that's The thing is like you
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  can 100% do this, Yeah. This is your.
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  First time ever doing this so please like don't get so
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  discouraged. I understand you wanted it to be
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  brilliant right away, but it is. Humbling to go in and go, oh, I
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  can't just do this, Yeah. You taking pictures of cool
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  birds when we're walking on trails is different than this,
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  OK. And if it was a cool bird, you
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  know, photography, like you'd be great at it.
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  But like, you just have to go, OK, now I need to be more on top
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  of it of like, you know, checking those kind of technical
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  things, making a maybe a shot list or whatever it is and like
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  having a plan with. It no, I think I, I think I can
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  get good at it. I just have to keep practicing
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  more. So I'm going to take this
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  knowledge that I've learned and I'm going to just shoot the
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  house that we have now. Oh God.
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  And just not for My Portfolio, just to practice.
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  Just to practice. OK, so I don't want anyone
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  seeing how we live. Yeah.
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  And then after that, after I feel like I've mastered the
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  technique, then I will branch out again, reach out to the same
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  real estate agent, see if she'll let me do it again.
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  OK. Although I sent her back, I'm
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  like, you're not going to want any of this.
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  That's crap. So we'll see what she says.
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  But so I'm my ego is hurt, but I this is a learning experience.
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  It's the same thing. If you look at the first episode
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  of this podcast, it looks terrible compared to how this
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  looks. And then and hopefully 100
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  episodes from here, this will look terrible.
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  So it's. Like yes, I know it's always a
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  work in progress, right? Constantly learning and making
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  things better. And like, every time I look at
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  something, I hate it. And so I try to make it better
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  and that's my goal. So even though I if I went out
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  there and I nailed it the first time, I would still hate it.
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  Yeah. Exactly.
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  You know, you're a perfectionist, but you talked to
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  your sister today. I did.
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  And it was an interesting conversation because you guys
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  were reminiscing and a moment came up that apparently was like
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  pivotal in both of your childhoods together.
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  Yeah, we bring this up a lot and we talk about how she tried to
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  stab me once. I mean like for real for real.
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  She chased me with a knife so I don't know if she actually tried
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  to stab me, stab me if she probably could have if she
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  wanted to, but we I bit her. I was like how?
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  Old were. You I have four 5-6 around that
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  air and yeah, that's kind of the only time we were together.
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  So I was with my sister till I was 8 and then we got divorced
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  and each person chose a parent and.
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  Which is wild. Whole another episode but
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  basically so I was like I bit her and she didn't she didn't
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  like that so she grabbed the steak knife because she was
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  probably eating a steak or had someone nearby and chased me
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  around the. House, do you remember why you
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  bit her? I don't, but I'm sure she did
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  something. As somebody that's been bit
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  like, I get it. Oh no.
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  Because it's I. Get it down.
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  To. You, it's enrages.
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  You. I don't know what it is.
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  Enrage. Yeah.
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  Like it's because Lily bit me once and like, I don't, I
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  didn't, I don't think I With a rage, I immediately started
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  sobbing because she broke skin. But this was when she was
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  little. And then like the next time she
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  came to hug me, I was like, please don't bite me again.
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  And then she started crying. She's like, I'm sorry I bit you.
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  And it was like a whole. Thing she bit me when she was
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  like 4 on my stomach yeah and like hard and I was I like I
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  redlined. It wouldn't mean I I was, yeah,
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  I, I that will live for me forever because I got so angry
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  so fast. Yes, you handled it well because
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  I was there. I.
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  Think and so and then. She she bit me on my stomach
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  once too and I was just like, I was like, did she just bite me
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  girl? Like it was after a swim class
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  and she was just over stimulated.
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  Yeah. But yeah, she doesn't bite
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  anymore. But.
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  But yes, I can. I can see Sabrina's point.
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  Yeah, no, I agree. And I'm.
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  I'm glad she didn't stab me. Yeah, I'm.
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  Glad she didn't stab you, but you would have deserved.
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  It I can see what she wanted to do.
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  Is there anything from your childhood or something like
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  that? Like a story that always gets
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  brought up by your family, family reunion or something like
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  that. I don't have anything like that.
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  Like nothing where we're like when we're all together, it's
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  like, Oh my gosh, remember that time?
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  That time. Sabrina tried to stab.
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  You yeah, like I don't have, my brother didn't try to stab me,
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  but like, I, I it's so weird because I have very few memories
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  from my childhood and the ones that I do have are just riddled
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  with anxiety. And it's funny to me because I'm
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  like, oh, that's why I am the way that I am.
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  I guess I've always been this person.
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  I, you know, I've always been somebody that anxiety, I think
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  like in one of my formative memories is my parents took us
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  to go see Beauty and the Beast at a movie theater and like,
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  they were going to go furniture shopping.
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  And so they left me and my brother at the movie theater,
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  and it was very much like a babysitter.
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  Like sit together your brother. Was old enough.
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  Yes, he. Was like 2 years.
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  He's two years old of me so but I have no idea how old I was.
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  I want to say I was like older than I should have been like 9
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  or 10 or something. And it was like, here's popcorn,
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  here's candy, here's a soda. Like it?
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  Yeah, we've been. Fine, we're going to be back
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  like we're in a like shopping center in two hours.
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  We're going to be right here or 90 minutes or whatever when the
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  movie ends. And I didn't even make it past
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  the opening of the, of the, like, bonjour, bonjour, bonjour.
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  Like I took a sip of soda or something like that and I felt
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  an ice cube get stuck in my throat.
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  Like, I felt it, you know, and I thought I was choking.
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  And so I left the theater sobbing hysterically, trying to
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  get the, the, the attendance to help me because I'm like, I'm
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  choking. I'm I'm dying.
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  I've got ice stuck in my throat. And I was like, mom, mom.
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  And like, I don't even know if they had even like, left yet or
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  I don't know how they knew or whatever, but they came back and
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  I or I like, sat outside or I forget what happened, but I was
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  hysterical. Where was your brother?
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  He was sitting inside watching the movie.
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  He didn't even notice that you left.
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  I don't know if he noticed or just didn't care there or
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  whatever, but I remember being by myself and just panicking.
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  Like could not sit in the movie theater because my heart was
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  racing so hard because I thought I was dying.
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  And like I remember my dad. Like after 5 minutes and you
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  realized you weren't. Well, that's The thing is like,
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  well, that's something about anxiety, right?
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  Like nothing makes sense. And I remember my dad coming up
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  afterwards going, it's an ice cube.
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  It would have melted, like just give it a second and it would
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  have melted and it would have been fine.
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  And like, I intellectually, like I understood that, but I was so
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  terrified. I have no idea if anyone even
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  remembers that in my family, but it's like one of those.
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  Like it sticks out into my memory.
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  Like I missed the entire movie. I just sat there bawling.
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  I 100% could see Lily doing that.
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  I not she doesn't show signs of anxiety.
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  Well a little bit but she also I feel like I can't ever leave her
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  alone anywhere without her freaking out.
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  Like just finding some reason to find us.
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  Like recording this podcast for 15 minutes at a time is a
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  miracle that she doesn't run into this room.
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  There's sometimes we have to get creatively and when we we have
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  to edit creatively because there's people she's coming in
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  going what's going on? Why?
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  Are you here yelling at us from another room asking us to read a
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  word? Word for.
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  Her, but she's an only child right and so like I kind of get
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  that like the demand for your attention yeah, I had a.
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  Brother. You had a brother.
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  Yeah, could have hung out with me or kind of convinced me, like
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  yeah, you. Think being two years apart, I
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  imagine your parents were like, these guys are gonna be besties
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  and for some reason it just did not work out.
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  But we'll have to dive that into that a little bit later.
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  No, we don't have to, but it's but yes.
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  Missed therapy? I I there's no ice in my cups
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  till this day. No, I'm just kidding.
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  I never touched ice. I've never touched an ice cube
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  since. So this is the thing that I've
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  seen gone around social media. It's have you seen the red
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  button or red button blue button thing?
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  I have yet. So let's talk about it because I
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  don't know what decision I would make.
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  If you don't know, here's the question that's been thrown out
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  there. Comment with your answer.
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  Red button, blue button. I can't say that.
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  Red button, blue button, blue button.
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  Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing
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  a red or a blue button. If more than 50% of people press
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  the blue button, everybody lives.
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  If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only the people
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  who press the red button will live.
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  Which would you choose right? So the premise becomes, does
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  everybody choose the blue button?
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  Because then everybody stays or because you can you it's because
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  it's anonymous. You would, you would hope that
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  everybody would pick the blue button, but would you pick the
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  red button to make sure that you know that you're safe?
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  Because the bread button means that you're safe no matter what.
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  No matter what, you survive. But if you But if more than 50%
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  of people choose the blue button, then everybody's fine.
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  Five years ago, I would hit the blue button.
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  Really. Now I don't know my faith in
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  humanity is at an all time low and so I I want to survive the
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  button problem and the red will help me survive but it could
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  kill half the population and then it's like.
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  It's kind of like to get super nerdy on it, like for all the
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  people in the Marvel Universe, like Thanos had a point.
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  You can't. You can't.
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  Completely disagree. With Thanos and OK, so if you
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  don't know, Thanos was the big villain right end game like we
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  are building to. Thanos Funny movies led to
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  Thanos. He had a glove and he would snap
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  it and half the population would die immediately.
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  Across the universe. Across the universe cause.
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  Our resources were low. That's his whole thing is like
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  we cannot continue on like this. Resources are low, people are
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  awful, people are taking things that don't belong to them like.
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  The Planet. Is going to die.
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  People are starving people or whatever.
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  And so he's like, if we get rid of half of them, everybody will
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  live in paradise. And he's like, so I'm going to
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  snap my glove and that and he does.
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  And half the unit, half of the people in the universe die.
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  And you're like, I get what you're like I.
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  Get it, man. Like I get it right.
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  And so this is kind of our Thanos moment.
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  Like do we snap our fingers and push the red button knowing that
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  we're going to be fine, or do you push the blue button and
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  knowing that if everybody pushed the blue button then everyone
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  would be fine? So what are you?
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  What are you? Choosing Yeah.
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  I mean, it's, it's such an interesting question because I
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  think the same thing as you is like, if it was six years ago, I
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  think I would have pushed the blue button because I would have
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  had faith in humanity. I have 0 faith in humanity.
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  Yeah, I it's weird. It's crazy to me how like
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  divided everybody is. And I wish I could sit here and
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  say, well, I trust everybody to make the decision, but honestly,
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  I trust everybody to be in it for themselves.
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  That's what I've learned as I've aged, is that everyone will do
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  what they'll do for themselves, and so I have to do what I have
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  to do based on what they're going to do.
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  It's like watching Squid Game. Like 100%.
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  It's the which choose which choice you choose.
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  So I don't. Yeah, in my heart I would push
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  the. Blue.
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  If everybody pushed the red button, then everyone would be
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  fine. So if everybody thought
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  selfishly and was like, well, I'm just going to save me and
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  mine, then everyone will be fine.
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  It's the empathetic people that are like, well, I, I trust
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  humanity. At this point, I wouldn't even
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  push a button. I'd just be like somebody decide
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  for me and I'll just sit back and wait.
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  But then at the end, if you have all these red buttoners around,
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  like we're all going to hate each other because we all are
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  all in life for ourselves now. Like which?
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  Yeah. I don't know.
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  Yeah. But I mean, also like, you're
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  doing it selfishly because you want to be around, not
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  necessarily because you're a bad person.
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  I mean, it's it's it's a it's like the one of those Catch 20
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  twos. Like there's no particular
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  button you could push that would make you a better person or not.
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  It's just what do you believe in society?
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  Do you believe that most people are good and willing to help
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  people, or do you think most people are in it for themselves?
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  And I think that in this point in society, we can kind of look
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  around a week and go, yeah, I think we're in a period where
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  most people are just trying to survive.
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  But that's the thing. Like are we just does like sex
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  sell? You know what I mean?
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  Like is it just the negative stuff about everything that is
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  being brought to the forefront 100% for us to see, But that's
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  is there so much more good stuff happening out there that we
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  don't see a. 100%. But you don't care about that.
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  It's the same. Thing with Yelp.
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  Review. Nobody leaves a good Yelp
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  review. You only leave it when it's bad.
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  So then we have to have faith that everyone's most people are
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  good. Right, right.
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  But they're. Just not loud.
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  I suppose, but you have to, you have to look for the good at
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  this point and I just don't think a lot of people are
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  looking for it anymore. You found it.
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  Here we are. We're the good.
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  We're the good we're pushing the blue button for.
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  Yeah. So in my heart I would push the
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  blue button, but I don't know faced with the actual decision.
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  It's a tough one. It's a.
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  Tough one. Well, thank you for watching.
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  Don't forget to like, subscribe, tell your friends, share it with
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  everybody, anybody that you know has ears and needs something to
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  keep them busy for 15 minutes. Let's see if we can grow this
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  because the job prospects are getting low.
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  So if we can build this up and survive on our own, then we
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  don't need anybody. Then we can start cussing and
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  stuff that. 'D be fun.
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  Thank you for watching, bye.