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John Legend Talks Skin Care, Current State Of R&B, Leaving The Voice + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning.
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Speaker 1: Everybody is d j Envy, Charlomagne the guy. We are
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Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. We got our co hostess week Patness
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Speaker 1: Pat joining us, and we got a special guest in
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Speaker 1: the building. Yes, indeed, John Legend welcome because we're back fellas.
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Speaker 1: How you family? Pat see John on Save for Night,
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Speaker 1: charlom I'm trying to forgot John minutes since you want
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Speaker 1: that you got, oh, of course, yeah, I don't know us. Yes,
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Speaker 1: they got like a few years ago. Yeah, I've been
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Speaker 1: back maybe on Zoom. I think ain't too cute on zoo. Shut.
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Speaker 1: They got a lot of filters on zoom. We can
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Speaker 1: play with it, not like up a little bit. I'm family. Congratulations.
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Speaker 1: Everybody's good doing. Everybody's good. We got your wife three
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Speaker 1: kids now it's good. Do you you know do you
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Speaker 1: hate seeing every time I watch Million Dollars List in
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Speaker 1: LA always reference you in your house and your old
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Speaker 1: house some way that I don't like that they keep
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Speaker 1: saying our names. And Rihanna lived that at that same
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Speaker 1: house too, and I don't like that they keep saying
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Speaker 1: our names like we are selling the house. We're not
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Speaker 1: selling it. We already sold it and then they're trying
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Speaker 1: to sell it again. But we ain't got nothing to
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Speaker 1: do with it. Now every shows like, yeah, that's the
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Speaker 1: house that John Legend used to us christ the house.
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Speaker 1: They come like, this is weird that house has been going. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: we don't live there anymore, and we're not trying to
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Speaker 1: sell it somebody else's, but they're using our name plenty.
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Speaker 1: How you look so refreshed with a new one in
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Speaker 1: the house? Man? Well, are you segue to my loved one? Skin?
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Speaker 1: Ain't nothing you could do little. We have a new skin, kid,
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Speaker 1: We do have a new skin girline, and you know
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Speaker 1: it's um It's formulated for melanin rich skin and the
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Speaker 1: focus is really on moisture. So you know, if I'm
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Speaker 1: looking moisturized and it's called loved old one, loved one,
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Speaker 1: loved one, Yeah, loved one. What made you want to
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Speaker 1: go down that lane? Well, you know, I've been working
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Speaker 1: in skincare doing deals with other brands, and I was like,
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Speaker 1: why not start my own? And I didn't want to
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Speaker 1: start it unless we had a real reason for it
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Speaker 1: to exist. And when we started doing the research on
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Speaker 1: the business, we realized that there's a lot of black
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Speaker 1: and brown folks that wants skincare that's actually formulated for us,
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Speaker 1: and that takes into considerations the unique differences that our
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Speaker 1: skin has. And there weren't very many companies that was
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Speaker 1: actually doing that, and so we said, why not create it?
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Speaker 1: And not only did we want to create it and
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Speaker 1: formulate it for us, but we wanted to make sure
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Speaker 1: everybody could afford it too. So we're selling everything for
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Speaker 1: fifteen dollars or less right now. We're selling it at
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Speaker 1: CVS and Walmart, places where people shot. And so we're like,
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Speaker 1: why make this a celebrities skincare brand the only celebrities
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Speaker 1: and their friends can afford. Make it so that everybody
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Speaker 1: can afford it, and formulate it for a population that's
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Speaker 1: been underserved, hasn't been catered to in this business. What
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Speaker 1: can me? Pap putt on our hands right now because
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Speaker 1: we got some good moisturized. If you we got moisturized,
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Speaker 1: we got oil. Tell you what happened? You know this
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Speaker 1: pap put the wrong one on her hands and the
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Speaker 1: pat put the exfoliation and rubbing on. Never look good.
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Speaker 1: The moisturized is really good and the oil is really good. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Oh this is nice. It's creamy rich, creamy rich and creamy. Fact.
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Speaker 1: We got jokes, but the fact is, uh, black and
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Speaker 1: brown people actually lose moisture more quickly than lighter skinning.
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Speaker 1: And so when we talk about being Ashley, like, that's
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Speaker 1: a real thing, and we're more likely to be Ashley
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Speaker 1: because we lose moisture more quickly, and so a lot
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Speaker 1: of our products are focused on moisture and hydration. I'm
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Speaker 1: getting a fishal yesterday and she was telling me that
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Speaker 1: you have to put a serum in your face because
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Speaker 1: your face. I never heard this term, but she said,
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Speaker 1: your face drinks and serum actually is what hydrates your face.
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Speaker 1: And you're finding different ways to protect your skin barrier
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Speaker 1: and moisturrate, moisturized hydrate. It's good. It's product. The only
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Speaker 1: way for artists to create generational wealth. I think it's
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Speaker 1: a combination. I make a lot of money playing live
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Speaker 1: and make a lot of money on my music, but
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Speaker 1: I think having product allows you to make money without
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Speaker 1: having to be out doing a show all the time,
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Speaker 1: you know, so it gives you the ability to create
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Speaker 1: wealth that can build and can be generational because these
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Speaker 1: products can outlive you. They can be in stores forever,
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Speaker 1: and we're trying to build a brand that people really
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Speaker 1: trust and will make a part of the daily routine
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Speaker 1: that they're gonna be buying for decades to come after
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Speaker 1: I'm gone. Are you tired to entertainment? No? I love it.
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Speaker 1: I love making music. I'm always writing, always recording. I
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Speaker 1: just put album out in September, put another solo version
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Speaker 1: of the album out in February, and I'm gonna keep
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Speaker 1: making music, keep playing shows, and that's always gonna be
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Speaker 1: my first love and I think it'll be my main
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Speaker 1: job for the rest of my life. Well, I have
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Speaker 1: a better question. Are you tired of being the main product? Like?
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Speaker 1: Are you tired of having to get up and go
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Speaker 1: do the physical work in order to make I feel
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Speaker 1: like I can diversify? Honestly, I think that's what I'm doing,
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Speaker 1: is making it so it's not all writing on me
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Speaker 1: being present every moment. And I'm always gonna make music,
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Speaker 1: always gonna do shows. But this allows me to diversify. Now,
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Speaker 1: you know, with autists selling their catalogs, you sold your catalog.
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Speaker 1: I sold a piece of my publishing. Yeah, what made
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Speaker 1: you think to do that? Because I've seen so many
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Speaker 1: people selling their catalogs now because a lot of times
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Speaker 1: people say, you know what, I'm gonna keep my catalog
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Speaker 1: so I can continue to eat, my kids continue to eat.
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Speaker 1: But you but it's diversification too, because what you're doing
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Speaker 1: is saying you're letting this other company invest in this
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Speaker 1: piece of your business, and then you're saying, I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: take that cash they give me and invest in other things.
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Speaker 1: And so for me, it makes it so you're not
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Speaker 1: completely relying on the ups and downs of the music industry,
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Speaker 1: but you're saying, I'm gonna take some of this money
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Speaker 1: and invested in other things. And that's what I did.
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Speaker 1: Because you break that down a little bit more because
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Speaker 1: you know, when black people tend to do things like that,
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Speaker 1: people be like, oh, are you selling your catalog? You're
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Speaker 1: gonna have ownership, Like, but white artists do. I'm watching
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Speaker 1: all the white artists selling. Plenty of people are doing it,
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Speaker 1: and honestly, I did it at the time when I
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Speaker 1: felt like they were offering a high premium when it
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Speaker 1: comes to the multiple. So basically the multiple is they
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Speaker 1: see what you're making per year and they offer you
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Speaker 1: something x times at per year amount. For your catalog,
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Speaker 1: and I felt like the multiple they were offering me
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Speaker 1: was very generous, and I was going to take that
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Speaker 1: cash and invest it in different things so it wasn't
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Speaker 1: all relying on my music career to make the money.
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Speaker 1: What are they doing with the music? Like, what's the
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Speaker 1: what's the upside for them? Basically they're doing the same
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Speaker 1: thing we were doing before. They're getting it placed in movies,
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Speaker 1: the regular revenue of it streaming, all the other money
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Speaker 1: you bring in from your catalog. They're just taking that
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Speaker 1: money in and so they're taking a bet that maybe
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Speaker 1: they can find ways to grow it beyond what it was,
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Speaker 1: you know, normally getting And uh, that's a bet that
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Speaker 1: they took. And I figured, let them take that bet
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Speaker 1: on my music and then I'm gonna take this cash
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Speaker 1: to get me in bet on other things. Yeah, I
7:13
Speaker 1: have one question. Is this this showers? Yea a unisex? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: everything's Uni sase Oh good. Yeah, So it's facing body wash,
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Speaker 1: U fac somebody moisturizer or shape cream. Everything's unisex and
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Speaker 1: formulated for for Melani rish skin. When huh, I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: use it on me? The place is hidding you don't
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Speaker 1: love it. You don't love it, I'm you said you
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Speaker 1: had washed your son, or you have to fight, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna use it. I just want to make sure I
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Speaker 1: ain't putting them smelling like no man down. Only two
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Speaker 1: of the products or even have a light scent, but
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Speaker 1: both of the sense are very natural and and it's
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Speaker 1: definitely a unisex. You're not gonna You're not gonna smell
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Speaker 1: Mannish shaving cream here, And I ain't gonna everybody needs
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Speaker 1: a shave. I'm growing them whiskers down now. So I'm
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Speaker 1: you some of that too. I get chats hair sometime.
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Speaker 1: And the thing about shaving, you know, and all the
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Speaker 1: other things we do to our skin. They can strip
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Speaker 1: the skin, they can make it feel dry, and everything
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Speaker 1: we do is focused on moisture and hydrations. So the
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Speaker 1: shave cream is gonna be nice too. You're gonna like, oh,
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Speaker 1: have mercies. You look at shaving style, it's Pat, it's Pat.
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Speaker 1: Don't fight him, No, don't fight him. You ever look
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Speaker 1: back and think about some of the moves you made,
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Speaker 1: and when people challenge those moves back then, and then
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Speaker 1: it all unfolds and they'd be like you've seen the vision,
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Speaker 1: Like I'm just thinking of of Kanye West, right, And
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Speaker 1: when you first decided, you know, this is not where
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Speaker 1: I want to go, this is not the route, and
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Speaker 1: people like you're crazy. He's this, he's a genius and
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Speaker 1: you should stay there, and you decided to take your
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Speaker 1: own lane, and then you see how it unfolds. Well,
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Speaker 1: those saying people kind of follow what you did well
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Speaker 1: all all of these decisions. Though, there were people in
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Speaker 1: my camp that didn't want me to sign with Kanye
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Speaker 1: when I signed with him, because I signed with Good
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Speaker 1: Music and I signed through Good Music to Colombia Record
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Speaker 1: so all of my first few albums were through Good
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Speaker 1: Music to Columbia Records, and you give up certain things
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Speaker 1: when you signed to an artist production company. But I
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Speaker 1: felt like it was the right move for me because creatively,
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Speaker 1: we were in a great place together and his star
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Speaker 1: was ascending as a producer and as an artist, and
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Speaker 1: I felt like being part of that team was gonna
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Speaker 1: propel my career to a place that it needed to be,
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Speaker 1: and it did, and it was really important for me
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Speaker 1: to be with Good Music for my first few albums,
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Speaker 1: and my career wouldn't be what it is without that.
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Speaker 1: And then when it's time to move on. It's time
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Speaker 1: to move on. But we had a really successful run together,
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Speaker 1: and you make these decisions, and you know, hindsight is
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty and everything looks good. Now, it's like everything
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Speaker 1: worked out, it's all good. But at the time, you
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Speaker 1: know it's complicated and it's difficult making these decisions, and
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Speaker 1: you're not sure if it's going to work out. And
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Speaker 1: you like to think that you you know, you can
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Speaker 1: foresee the future and you can plan ahead, but you
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Speaker 1: never know how it's going to work out. But it
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Speaker 1: worked out. Are so many things you give up when
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Speaker 1: you signed to an artist? Will you give up a
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Speaker 1: piece of your revenue? So but the bottom line is
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Speaker 1: with any of these deals, you're like, would I'd rather
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Speaker 1: have one hundred percent of a smaller amount or fifty
10:14
Speaker 1: or sixty percent of a larger amount. And so you
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Speaker 1: got to do the math and say, is it worth
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Speaker 1: me signing with somebody and giving up a portion of
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Speaker 1: my revenue? Are we going to grow the pie together
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Speaker 1: and make something bigger that we all can share together?
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Speaker 1: They have any concerned about you being R and B
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Speaker 1: and him being hip hop? Like, no, I think it
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Speaker 1: actually made it so I had my own lane within
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Speaker 1: good music. It made it so that, you know, I
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Speaker 1: wasn't really competing with the other rappers that he had signed.
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Speaker 1: I was in my own lane. Well, why did you
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Speaker 1: lead a voice? I didn't really leave the boys. I
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Speaker 1: just am not doing this season, but I'll be back.
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Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay. So you take a break because like
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Speaker 1: we're having a kid, you know, going on, and he's
10:52
Speaker 1: tired of hitting that bail. I turn it around for
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Speaker 1: the second turning. I mean, it would be kind of
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Speaker 1: deceitful to say I'm really taking a full paternity leave
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Speaker 1: because I'm doing plenty of work during this time, but
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Speaker 1: I'm doing a little less work and it was a
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Speaker 1: perfect time to take a break. And uh, you know
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Speaker 1: it's Blake's last season. Let him have his moment and
11:18
Speaker 1: then la Blake is my Blake is my guy. He
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Speaker 1: tweeted me one day, almost fain it people with buying checks.
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Speaker 1: That wasn't him wa, that was in Miss pat. It
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Speaker 1: was what do you think about the current state of
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Speaker 1: R and B? I know one time did he said
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Speaker 1: R and B is dead? In this conversation has been
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Speaker 1: going on and on for the last couple of months.
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Speaker 1: Which your vision of R and B, which it's not dead.
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Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of great artists making
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Speaker 1: great music. Um. I was just on Spotify listening to
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Speaker 1: music in the car today and a lot of it
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Speaker 1: was R and B, and a lot of it was current,
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Speaker 1: and a lot of it was dope. And I feel
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Speaker 1: like there's so many really good artists making R and
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Speaker 1: B and no, it's definitely not that. Who John Leg
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Speaker 1: listened to I was listening to says that today I
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Speaker 1: was listening to Summer Walker, I was listening to Daniel Caesar,
12:03
Speaker 1: I was listening to her. I was listening to Frank
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Speaker 1: Ocean I was listening to I mean, we could have
12:08
Speaker 1: some new Frank that would be great, um, Leon Bridges, Um,
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Speaker 1: he's not that. I mean occasionally I listened to myself, okay,
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Speaker 1: but most of the time I'm focused. Like when when
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Speaker 1: I'm making an album, I listened to it all the time,
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Speaker 1: and I'm like tweaking and getting it exactly right, and
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Speaker 1: then once it's out, then you know, I let it
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Speaker 1: be out. But my kids actually love it and so
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Speaker 1: they'll ask me to play it in the car a lot,
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Speaker 1: So I end up listening to myself in the car
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Speaker 1: with my kids when I take them to school. Danny,
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Speaker 1: I can't do that with my keys. I curse. I
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Speaker 1: got like occasional curse word in my songs, and so
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Speaker 1: we just try to ignore that. And my daughter will
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Speaker 1: laugh she's had dad, he said a bad word. You know,
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Speaker 1: keep it moving. Do you intentionally put out an album
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Speaker 1: every two years? Because I do, not exactly intentionally, but
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm intentionally creative. So I like to schedule
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Speaker 1: time in the studio. I like to when I'm off tour,
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Speaker 1: like actually actively make time to make new music. And
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Speaker 1: by the time you know, I do that for like
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Speaker 1: six or nine months, it's time to put another album
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Speaker 1: out because I got enough material for it. Is there
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Speaker 1: any song that you created that you just can't stay
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Speaker 1: in anymore? But like, I hate performing it. I hate
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Speaker 1: doing it. No, no, no, And I mean I have
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Speaker 1: enough songs that I don't have to play any song
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Speaker 1: I don't like really, um, and there's none of my
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Speaker 1: popular songs that my fans want to hear that I
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Speaker 1: don't like to play. Okay, what was it like to day? Incredible?
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Speaker 1: I loved it, Honestly, It's like a masterclass every night.
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Speaker 1: She's just an incredible performer. Her mystique, just everything about her.
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Speaker 1: She seems so mythical, like's not even a real person,
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Speaker 1: Like she just disappears. Like the last tour was the
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Speaker 1: one we did together, and that was twenty eleven. Wowow,
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Speaker 1: it's twenty twenty three. She has as she's still even then.
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Speaker 1: Did you interact with Earth? We did, and she was
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Speaker 1: super cool. Like you would honestly you'd be intimidated by
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Speaker 1: her mystique, but in person she was very chill, and
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Speaker 1: she had her family along on the tour, and all
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Speaker 1: of her people were really kind to my people, which
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Speaker 1: isn't always the case when you go on tours somebody
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Speaker 1: else who's the headliner, And uh, they were all super
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Speaker 1: like kind and interacted with my musicians and my band,
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Speaker 1: and uh, we just had a great time on tour
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Speaker 1: with them. But if the headliner didn't want you to to,
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Speaker 1: they could just say that, right. So, man, I've been
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Speaker 1: part of when early in my career, I've been part
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Speaker 1: of tours where the headliner would do things like you know,
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Speaker 1: a little slide things like make sure your decibel level
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Speaker 1: was lower and uh, control your stage position. Can't ban Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and then once I started having an opening artist, like,
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Speaker 1: I remember that and I would never would do that
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Speaker 1: to them. Yeah, I never would do that to them.
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Speaker 1: I was always I would always give them what I
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Speaker 1: felt like was the proper shine, and I never was
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Speaker 1: scared that they was gonna up stage me. I was
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Speaker 1: just like, let's give these people a great show, and
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Speaker 1: that includes the opening act having a great show too.
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Speaker 1: It's a difficult opening up for somebody because you can
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Speaker 1: do these tours on your own, but now you actually
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Speaker 1: have to open up for somebody. Was that different? It
15:21
Speaker 1: was actually kind of easy because doing two hour shows
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Speaker 1: is a lot, and doing a forty five minute show
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Speaker 1: is very comfortable. Those artists that fronted on you like
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Speaker 1: that back in the day, now that you got winner
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Speaker 1: to you hold that against them, like, I don't. Honestly,
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Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm happy. My career is great. I've done
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Speaker 1: very well and had wonderful tours. Like, I'm not gonna
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Speaker 1: worry about small things that happened at the beginning of
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Speaker 1: my career. I got a caution you ever get on
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Speaker 1: stage and be singing and then get your lyrics? Oh yeah, oh,
15:53
Speaker 1: because that happened to me too. As all, yeah, y'all
15:56
Speaker 1: remember that, Joe. Yeah, I'm tired you companying yourself to
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Speaker 1: John Legend. I'm not world class. Uh. Sometimes sometimes I
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Speaker 1: actually laugh about it because I honestly think fans like
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Speaker 1: having those human moments in the show that sometimes I'd
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Speaker 1: be like, I sucked that up and excuse me, and
16:23
Speaker 1: you know, just yeah, yeall, this is you know, pre
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Speaker 1: take um, and I'll just be like, I messed that
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Speaker 1: up and started it started over. And the fans love
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Speaker 1: it because they get a real moment, because they don't
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Speaker 1: want you to be perfect, and they don't want you
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Speaker 1: to be lip syncing and and all that. They want
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Speaker 1: you to be a human. That's why they come to
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Speaker 1: the show. Like, if they want to listen to the record,
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Speaker 1: they could listen to the record. How do you come
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Speaker 1: up with the name of Loved the One for the
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Speaker 1: for the loved One? My team came up with it. Obviously.
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Speaker 1: I put love into a lot of what I do.
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Speaker 1: My wine is called lv UM. A bunch of my
16:53
Speaker 1: music is, of course love music. And I felt like,
16:57
Speaker 1: when you think about that skincare ritual, it's about self love,
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Speaker 1: but it's also something you share with the people you love.
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Speaker 1: And so we felt like that name would be dope,
17:05
Speaker 1: and we made it kind of different with the kind
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Speaker 1: of raised oh and the one, and some people say
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Speaker 1: loved oh one and we got to correct them. But
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Speaker 1: once they learned what it is, loved one just you know,
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Speaker 1: rolls off the toimeue. How long does it take for
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Speaker 1: you to like get all of that together, like you
17:21
Speaker 1: have to go different products. Yeah, we started like a
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Speaker 1: year and almost a year and a half ago, and
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Speaker 1: so we started with the idea that this needed to exist,
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Speaker 1: that there was a gap in the market, that that
17:34
Speaker 1: melanated skin wasn't being paid attention to. And if you
17:37
Speaker 1: look at the actual the policy that goes into it,
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Speaker 1: the FDA doesn't even require you to test on any
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Speaker 1: shades lighter than I mean darker than like white. Basically, yeah,
17:48
Speaker 1: they don't actually require you to test on it. So
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Speaker 1: if you're testing efficacy, you don't have to test it
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Speaker 1: to dermatology, the dermatologists don't even have to learn about
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Speaker 1: the conditions that brown and black skin are more likely
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Speaker 1: to face. And you look in their textbooks, they're not
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Speaker 1: makes all the sense in the word, because you know,
18:33
Speaker 1: we always say that black people love the skin you're in,
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Speaker 1: dinner party. Yeah sas you know what was gonna be born.
18:56
Speaker 1: That's why y'all about the Uno cards. We were like,
18:58
Speaker 1: it was like our insurance in case it was boring,
19:01
Speaker 1: but it was not boring. Must biggers, y'all pulled him out.
19:04
Speaker 1: We had a good table. Now we didn't actually end
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Speaker 1: up playing. We just had him. We just had him
19:08
Speaker 1: with him just in case. Yeah, we had a good table,
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Speaker 1: Gabby Union, d Wade, Queenland Tief. I know we could
19:17
Speaker 1: have some space going to but yeah, we had a
19:19
Speaker 1: good table. We had a good time. Oh so the conversation, Okay,
19:22
Speaker 1: I get with you. So the conversation was good. It
19:23
Speaker 1: was no need to. We didn't actually end up playing.
19:25
Speaker 1: They might have played after we left because we left
19:27
Speaker 1: right after dessert because we both had to fly east
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Speaker 1: on a red eye. Um, but I don't know if
19:33
Speaker 1: they played after we laugh. Maybe they needed after we left,
19:36
Speaker 1: you know, because you see the list that they put out,
19:39
Speaker 1: a rolling Stone to the Greatest Singers list. Did you
19:41
Speaker 1: see that list? What did you think about the list?
19:43
Speaker 1: He's laughing. I just I don't understand their criteria. It
19:51
Speaker 1: was like it was a lot of people left off.
19:54
Speaker 1: Leave aside the fact that I was left off, but
19:56
Speaker 1: there was a lot of other people left offs, and
19:58
Speaker 1: I'm like it didn't make really makes sense. But I
20:00
Speaker 1: feel like they just something called them the trolling Stone,
20:03
Speaker 1: and uh, I feel like they just wanted to spark
20:07
Speaker 1: conversation and uh be a little bit controversial, and they
20:13
Speaker 1: were controversial. Did you read the Franklin's comments on some
20:16
Speaker 1: of the singers on there. Franklin's dead. I was not
20:18
Speaker 1: a frank I was like, what you say, Queen? She
20:36
Speaker 1: came back? Who was you thinking about? It was glad,
20:52
Speaker 1: I wasn't shot. Who was it? It was shocking? Khan
20:56
Speaker 1: wasn't on blast? You was on something else. The thing
21:04
Speaker 1: is like, what is your criteria? Is it like actual,
21:06
Speaker 1: like pure vocal ability? Because there are definitely people on
21:09
Speaker 1: that list. They're not I wouldn't call them great singers,
21:11
Speaker 1: but they're very like successful artists, and so are you
21:16
Speaker 1: basing it on their vocal ability or you're basing it
21:19
Speaker 1: on just their pure success as a lead artist? And
21:22
Speaker 1: then you know there's there's different ways to make that list,
21:27
Speaker 1: and it just seemed like it was all over the place.
21:31
Speaker 1: I hate when they brings success into it. Yeah, success, money, accolades,
21:34
Speaker 1: Like let's just talk about raw talent, like even when
21:37
Speaker 1: it comes to the rap, when it comes to the singing.
21:39
Speaker 1: But it's like, but you know, there's a there's an
21:41
Speaker 1: argument for that too. Like if you're talking about football,
21:43
Speaker 1: you talk about Tom Brady as the goat, You're not
21:45
Speaker 1: saying he's the most purely talented quarterback. You're saying he
21:49
Speaker 1: won the most championships, he had the most success at
21:52
Speaker 1: what he was doing in football, and so there's an
21:55
Speaker 1: argument to make a you know, most successful list. But
21:58
Speaker 1: if you're gonna call it the greatest singers singing, they
22:02
Speaker 1: should be good singers. I agree it was according to
22:06
Speaker 1: who wrote the list and who here was a hero
22:07
Speaker 1: in it. Yeah. I don't think anybody but singers can
22:10
Speaker 1: make those lists, and I don't think anybody but rappers
22:13
Speaker 1: should be able to make the rap list. Did you
22:14
Speaker 1: see the Billboard Hip Hop list? What do you think?
22:17
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't terrible. I thought it was more.
22:19
Speaker 1: It was less controversial than the singing list. I thought
22:23
Speaker 1: it was too early for some people, like I think
22:25
Speaker 1: it's too early to put Lamar and I love I Am.
22:28
Speaker 1: I love Kendrick Lamar, but it's too early to put
22:31
Speaker 1: him in now. How many albums is he in now?
22:32
Speaker 1: I was like four, Yeah, but it's a decade, yeah
22:35
Speaker 1: hip hop. I think for me it got to be
22:37
Speaker 1: at least fifteen to twenty years. Me personally, I just
22:39
Speaker 1: think he's never missed yet. Yeah, he hasn't missed yet.
22:43
Speaker 1: Kendrick has never missed and his skill is is impeccable,
22:47
Speaker 1: like his skills and MC is impeccable, and he's never
22:50
Speaker 1: missed with an album or a tour, not even a video. Really,
22:55
Speaker 1: like so many people, you gotta jump over to be
22:57
Speaker 1: number two. I understand, na, I understand, I understand. I
23:03
Speaker 1: think Jay is number one, and after that, I think
23:09
Speaker 1: it gets difficult because I think it mixes a lot
23:12
Speaker 1: of different factors. But I think Kendrick should be in
23:14
Speaker 1: the conversation because he literally is that great and he's
23:18
Speaker 1: and you just compare his raw MC ability against any
23:22
Speaker 1: rapper of any era, and he's right there. He's in
23:27
Speaker 1: my top five. Now, let me ask a questions. A
23:29
Speaker 1: rapper that doesn't write his own is he in that list?
23:32
Speaker 1: But who are we? Who are we saying is not
23:34
Speaker 1: writing their own? Because it was time that it was Kanye,
23:37
Speaker 1: it was times it was Drake, there was times it
23:38
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23:41
Speaker 1: I mean. I never saw Kanye being ghost written. And
23:45
Speaker 1: I've been in the studio with him a lot. He writes.
23:48
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's written every single thing, but I
23:52
Speaker 1: never saw him being ghost written. I've seen guys in
23:54
Speaker 1: the room like bouncing ideas around. But Kanye is a
23:57
Speaker 1: writer who was your top five. I've never been the
24:01
Speaker 1: studio with Drake, so I have no I can't test
24:03
Speaker 1: the fill you said Kendrick should be in that Jay,
24:06
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Nas, I'm gonna say Biggie, anybody from
24:11
Speaker 1: the South. Honestly, I would put Andre in my top five. Yeah. Yeah,
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