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Alan Dershowitz | Lawyer & Former Law Professor Returns to S&FIM · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu followed up. President Trump sent me
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  Speaker 1: this really, really nice video congratulating me on making the
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  Speaker 1: New York State Broadcasting Hall of Fame, the big induction
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  Speaker 1: ceremony coming up October the 22nd at the iconic Rainbow Room.
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  Speaker 1: So Trump sent me this beautiful, about a two-minute video.
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  Speaker 1: I put some of it on my social media, and
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  Speaker 1: we play it. every morning the audio before we start
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  Speaker 1: the show, and my man Bibi Netanyahu followed up with
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  Speaker 1: his own video, which I received from Dr. Ophir Falk
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  Speaker 1: at the Prime Minister's office in Israel yesterday. I did
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  Speaker 1: post some of that video on my social media yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: and that was the audio, and no one is happier
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  Speaker 1: for me about that than my next guest, who is actually,
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  Speaker 1: all kidding aside, a very close friend of the great B.B. Netanyahu. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I said the great, you anti-Semites. Suck it. The great B.B. Netanyahu,
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  Speaker 1: my friend Alan Dershowitz. Good morning, Alan.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning. Look, if Netanyahu, Trump, Dershowitz, and Sid all agree,
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  Speaker 2: it must be right. You can't have four better people agreeing.
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  Speaker 2: I saw the Netanyahu video. It's fantastic. I mean, he
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  Speaker 2: tells the truth. You are there. The reason you're so
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  Speaker 2: popular is because people are dying to hear the truth,
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  Speaker 2: and they don't hear it on radio and television and
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  Speaker 2: so many other places. but they hear it from you.
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  Speaker 2: I was on a show the other day called Badass Jews,
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  Speaker 2: and the first person I thought of was you. They
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  Speaker 2: should get you on the show, because you and I
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  Speaker 2: share that in common. We're badass. We don't take any crap.
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  Speaker 2: We fight back.
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  Speaker 1: It's true. I like that. Badass Jews. So then I
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  Speaker 1: want your opinion on this. I've got a meeting coming
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  Speaker 1: up with the Vice President of the United States, and look,
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  Speaker 1: I spoke at The Republican Jewish Coalition in Vegas. I
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  Speaker 1: do every year now. My cousin Norm Coleman runs it.
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  Speaker 1: And I was surprised when they announced out there in
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  Speaker 1: Vegas that the keynote speaker was going to be J.D.
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  Speaker 1: Vance because a lot of Jewish people don't like him. Okay?
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  Speaker 1: People try to tell you, Tucker Carlson's not an anti-Semite.
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  Speaker 1: He has no issue with the Jews. He's just upset
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  Speaker 1: with Israel. Nonsense. That's the old gag, right? The old trick.
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  Speaker 1: I got nothing against the Jews. It's just Israel. Nonsense.
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  Speaker 1: He's a raging anti-Semite.
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: So here's J.D. Vance. who at every opportunity says to everybody,
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  Speaker 1: I'm friends with Tucker, who not only is anti-Semitic, but
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  Speaker 1: has referred to President Trump as the Antichrist. But, but,
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  Speaker 1: for some reason, not the other way around, for some reason,
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  Speaker 1: the Vice President wants to talk to me. And I said, okay.
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  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on me?
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad he wants to talk to you because, look,
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  Speaker 2: there is at least a 50-50 chance he will be
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  Speaker 2: the next president of the United States. And we have
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  Speaker 2: to bring him to our side. We have to use
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  Speaker 2: the best advocacy, and nobody's a better advocate to Israel
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  Speaker 2: than you are. And you have to have... access to
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  Speaker 2: his ideas. He claims that he supports Israel. He doesn't
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  Speaker 2: deny support for Israel. He just says he's an American firster.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't think we should be sending lots of money
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  Speaker 2: and arms to foreign countries. He's wrong about that. But
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  Speaker 2: I think we could help bring him in the fold.
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  Speaker 2: And I think often Jews too quickly jump to making
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  Speaker 2: people who we don't agree with as enemies. And We
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  Speaker 2: can't afford to have J.D. Vance as an enemy. He's
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  Speaker 2: too important. He could be the next president of the
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  Speaker 2: United States. So please go see him and do whatever
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  Speaker 2: you can to persuade him.
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  Speaker 1: Thursday at 3 between you and I and our millions listening. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm on the way to the White House. When you
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  Speaker 1: say you want to persuade people to, you know, kind
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  Speaker 1: of join the right side, would you invite Macklemore to
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  Speaker 1: your house for Shabbos dinner?
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  Speaker 2: No, no, of course not. But I might invite him
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  Speaker 2: for a Tuesday night drink.
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  Speaker 1: Because that's what Robert Kraft said. He said, look, he
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  Speaker 1: can't perform at my stadium. He can't perform at Gillette Stadium,
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  Speaker 1: but I'd love to talk to him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think you have to talk. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know whether he is talkable, too. There are some people
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  Speaker 2: like Ruffalo and others who are just vicious, virulent anti-Semites.
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  Speaker 2: There's no sense trying to talk to them. They don't
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  Speaker 2: think they don't have an open mind. But I suspect
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  Speaker 2: that Vance has an open mind. Look, I think he
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  Speaker 2: has caught on to a trend among young Republicans that
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  Speaker 2: who are anti-israel and he needs young republicans to be
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  Speaker 2: rubio and uh... you know rubio is completely pro-israel but uh...
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  Speaker 2: there's no assurance that he'll get the nomination uh... and uh...
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  Speaker 2: you know obviously ted cruz is completely pro-israel he's probably
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  Speaker 2: going to be competing for the nomination but right now
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  Speaker 2: the leading candidate always is the current vice president of
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  Speaker 2: the united states.
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  Speaker 1: So, and again, he came out last week and he said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to allow politics to dictate who my
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  Speaker 1: friends are. In fact, let me play this for you.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you heard this. Maybe you didn't. This was President Trump.
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  Speaker 1: He was on my show Friday. He was on for
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  Speaker 1: an hour, Alan. Friday for an hour. And I brought
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  Speaker 1: up J.D. Vance and Tucker Carlson. And here is President
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  Speaker 1: Trump's response. Cut number 10. You were friends with Tucker
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  Speaker 1: Carlson for many years. Many years. And you decided... months ago,
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  Speaker 1: maybe a year ago already, that you're done with him.
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  Speaker 1: You banned him.
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  Speaker 2: J.D.
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  Speaker 1: Comes out and says, not going to do it. The
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  Speaker 1: guy's my good friend. We're best friends. And I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to allow politics to dictate who my friends are.
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  Speaker 1: But if he really wants to win in 2028, above
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  Speaker 1: and beyond the Jews with Tucker Carlson, Tucker Carlson also
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  Speaker 1: called you the Antichrist. So if I'm a Trump supporter
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  Speaker 1: and I'm a Jew, J.D. Vance needs to be careful.
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  Speaker 1: That's my... advice for him.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I've known Tucker Carlson for a long
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  Speaker 3: time and I've been on and off with him for years,
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  Speaker 3: very much on and off with him.
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  Speaker 2: He's very inconsistent.
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  Speaker 3: And maybe I am, but I will tell you, he's
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  Speaker 3: very inconsistent. So I've been on and off. He is
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  Speaker 3: very much a fair weather guy. Of course, I dumped
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  Speaker 3: him a few months ago because I just felt it
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  Speaker 3: was inappropriate. He was saying, Bad things, very bad things.
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  Speaker 3: Not so much about me, but about a lot of
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  Speaker 3: other things that are taking place. And you understand that
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  Speaker 3: he would hit somebody like Mark Levin, who I think
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  Speaker 3: is fantastic, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel.
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  Speaker 2: Very close.
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  Speaker 3: And others. And I just I just personally I didn't
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  Speaker 3: like it. But no, I've had a very checkered relationship.
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  Speaker 2: I would say that Tucker Carlson never liked me. I
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  Speaker 2: did a lot for him in a way but I
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  Speaker 2: would say that he never in other words you know.
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  Speaker 3: With people you have chemistry right like I have a
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  Speaker 3: chemistry with you people you have chemistry sometimes you don't
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  Speaker 3: and if you don't have it there's not a damn
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  Speaker 3: thing you can do about it and Tucker and I
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  Speaker 3: have had a very checkered relationship.
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  Speaker 1: Any doubt in your mind as to whether or not
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  Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson is an anti-Semite are you there Did we
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  Speaker 1: lose him?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, are you talking to me? Yes. You're talking to
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  Speaker 2: the president. No, I'm talking to you now. No, I have,
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  Speaker 2: of course, no doubt that Tucker Carlson is a virulent anti-Semite.
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  Speaker 2: He uses the cover of anti-Zionism to cover his anti-Semitism,
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  Speaker 2: but he doesn't like Jews. There's no doubt in my
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  Speaker 2: mind about that. You know, when I used to be
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  Speaker 2: on a show on Fox, his booker was an Israeli.
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  Speaker 2: And he was fairly pro-Israel at the time, or at
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  Speaker 2: least wasn't anti-Israel when I was on his show. And
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  Speaker 2: then when he left Fox, he suddenly had a 180
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  Speaker 2: and turned completely against Israel. And it'd be extremely dangerous
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  Speaker 2: to have him close to the president. And that worries
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  Speaker 2: me that the future possible president of the United States, J.D. Vance,
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  Speaker 2: still regards him as a close friend and won't allow
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  Speaker 2: differences in politics to To affect friendship. This is not
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  Speaker 2: a difference in politics. This is a difference in values
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  Speaker 2: and principles. You can't be a friend if you're a
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  Speaker 2: bigot and a vicious anti-Semite. That's a disqualifying fact.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you. So that'll be part of my
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  Speaker 1: conversation coming up with Vance. Why is Mahmoud Khalil still here?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this guy has the nerve now. Not only
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  Speaker 1: is he still here, because I thought he'd be deported
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  Speaker 1: months ago, but now he's suing us. Now he's suing Columbia,
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  Speaker 1: I should say. Why is that guy still here?
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  Speaker 2: Because he has a lot of good lawyers, mostly Jewish lawyers,
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  Speaker 2: who claim to be civil libertarians. They wouldn't recognize a
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  Speaker 2: civil liberties issue if they fell over it. They're just pro-Palestine, anti-Israel,
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  Speaker 2: and anti-Semitic. And they see him as a hero. And
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  Speaker 2: they're willing to devote their time and money and attention
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  Speaker 2: to this bigot who shouldn't be in the United States,
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  Speaker 2: who came in under false pretenses, and should be deported immediately.
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  Speaker 1: I guess Ron Cooby is one of those guys, right?
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  Speaker 2: You know, Ron, I've been a friend of Ron's. He's
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  Speaker 2: a very charming guy. Yeah, he is. But, you know,
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  Speaker 2: his values are all wrong.
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  Speaker 1: All wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I was on a tweet thing with
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  Speaker 2: a classmate of mine from Yale Law School who says
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  Speaker 2: he's a civil liberties lawyer, but he only defends the
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  Speaker 2: free speech of Palestinians, not Zionists. So, you know, he's
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  Speaker 2: not a civil libertarian. You can call him a radical,
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  Speaker 2: you can call him whatever you want, but you can't
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  Speaker 2: call him a civil libertarian.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think about this lawsuit that Mom Donnie
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  Speaker 1: and Letitia James levied against the Trump administration about how
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  Speaker 1: they're treating immigrants? What are your thoughts on that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think everybody is turning to the courts now.
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  Speaker 2: We're seeing everybody, as soon as you see something that
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  Speaker 2: you disagree with, you immediately go to the courts. And
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  Speaker 2: the courts are losing their credibility. You know, the Constitution...
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  Speaker 2: gives the courts a very limited role in American governance.
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  Speaker 2: You know, in the book of Job, I guess it
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  Speaker 2: begins by saying, When judges ruled the land, there was famine.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want judges ruling the land. And that's what's
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  Speaker 2: happening today. Too many judges won't stay in their lane.
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  Speaker 2: Even Justice Ginsburg, before she died, obviously, said judges do
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  Speaker 2: not have a mandate simply to do justice. They have
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  Speaker 2: to stay within their limits. And I think these lawsuits
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  Speaker 2: are outside the jurisdiction of of the federal courts. And
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  Speaker 2: so I would hope they would be dismissed.
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  Speaker 1: Last one, Lindsay Clancy, in your opinion, counselor, is she
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  Speaker 1: a vicious murderer or somebody that just literally went nuts?
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  Speaker 2: It's somewhere in between. You know, people go nuts and
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  Speaker 2: don't kill their children. So just because you have a
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  Speaker 2: mental illness doesn't explain why you killed a child. On
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  Speaker 2: the other hand, absolutely normal people don't kill their children.
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  Speaker 2: It's a gray area, and reasonable people could disagree. I
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  Speaker 2: predicted from the outcome that there might be a hung jury,
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  Speaker 2: because this is the kind... If you did a trial
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  Speaker 2: in America of every American... there would be a hung jury.
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  Speaker 2: You'd get, I don't know, 40% saying she's insane and
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  Speaker 2: 60% saying she's a vicious murderer. So in this case,
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  Speaker 2: it was reversed. It was 11 to 1 for her
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  Speaker 2: being legally insane. But, you know, this lawyer is very
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  Speaker 2: good and he's not through yet. He is trying very
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  Speaker 2: hard to try to get the case dismissed on the
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  Speaker 2: ground that the juror who held out should never have
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  Speaker 2: been on the jury. He never should have been on
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  Speaker 2: the jury. How are they didn't get him out of
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  Speaker 2: jury service. I don't know. What we don't know is
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  Speaker 2: we haven't seen the jury questionnaire and whether he lied
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  Speaker 2: on it. Because if he lied on it, the argument
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  Speaker 2: by the lawyer for disqualifying that juror would be increased.
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  Speaker 1: Increased. Last one. I got two big election days coming up.
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  Speaker 1: So do you. We got the midterm elections. First week
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  Speaker 1: of November here in the United States because I am
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  Speaker 1: America first. But I'm Israel second. Okay. I'm 1A, 1B.
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  Speaker 1: And B.B. has his election coming up. And I'm sensing
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  Speaker 1: some nervousness. I really am. Not from Bibi. He always
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  Speaker 1: exhibits a tremendous amount of confidence. But people around him,
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  Speaker 1: pro-Bibi people in Israel, I'm sensing some nervousness. They're even
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  Speaker 1: reaching out to me for help. What are your thoughts
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  Speaker 1: on his next election?
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  Speaker 2: He's always nervous, and he should be nervous. He's been
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  Speaker 2: a magician. He's managed to pull out. electoral victories. By
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  Speaker 2: the way, I'll give you some insight. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: Bibi's trying to get a win in this election. I
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  Speaker 2: think he's trying to prevent anyone else from getting a win.
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  Speaker 2: And then he would be interim prime minister and then
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  Speaker 2: increase his chances of getting a win in a subsequent election. Remember,
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  Speaker 2: Israel had like six elections in five years. So the
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  Speaker 2: election is not the end. It's often the beginning. So
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  Speaker 2: if nobody gets a majority in the Knesset, there's no
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  Speaker 2: prime minister and the former prime minister stays on. So
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  Speaker 2: I think he may be aiming for that result. But
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  Speaker 2: he's a magician. Don't ever count him out.
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  Speaker 1: No, those six elections, he managed to win five of those.
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  Speaker 1: I never count them out. Or you, for that matter,
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  Speaker 1: Alan Dershowitz. I love you so much. I really do.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. Be well.
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  Speaker 1: You too. I love you. Alan Dershowitz right there back
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  Speaker 1: on Sid and Friends in the morning.
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