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Best of Chuck & Buck 10-2 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Daily Mariner segment. And when I say daily, we have
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  Speaker 1: done it every day since the start of the Major
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  Speaker 1: League Baseball season. It's a segment where we allow the
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  Speaker 1: alphabet to guide us through various Mariner topics. We never
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  Speaker 1: know where the alphabet is going to lead us, and
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily have to be the headlines either that
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  Speaker 1: we go to. And so where do we go here?
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  Speaker 1: On this day two day shy of the Divisional round
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  Speaker 1: of the Major League Baseball Playoffs, where the Mariners will
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  Speaker 1: be hosting either the Guardians or Tigers on Saturday, B
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  Speaker 1: is where we left off. We only got one letter
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  Speaker 1: in yesterday. B is for bullpen, and this time of
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  Speaker 1: the year, many experts will tell you this is where
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  Speaker 1: the having a great bullpen really gets heightened. And I've
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  Speaker 1: seen teams win the World Series because of their bullpen.
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  Speaker 1: The Kansas City Royals come to mind, when they had
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  Speaker 1: the Big three at the back of their bullpen, Herrera,
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  Speaker 1: Davis and Holland. Many people say that's the reason they
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  Speaker 1: won the World Series. So bullpen really comes in handy
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  Speaker 1: this time of the year. The Mariners finished the season
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  Speaker 1: with the ninth best ERA out of their bullpen, but
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  Speaker 1: I think that they finished the season stronger than that,
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  Speaker 1: feeling better about that. I think that top ten suggests
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  Speaker 1: that's a pretty good bullpen, that bullpen is doing its job.
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  Speaker 1: But I think we finished pretty strong. I think that
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  Speaker 1: we actually have a top seven, top five bullpen.
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  Speaker 2: In Major League Baseball.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it feels you feel real good about
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  Speaker 3: the back of it. You know, even though each one
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  Speaker 3: of them had their hiccups. Munnos has blown you know,
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  Speaker 3: a few saves, and Brash has had his issues at times.
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  Speaker 3: But I think for the most part, you feel good.
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  Speaker 3: You got to feel good if you can, you know,
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  Speaker 3: have a couple run lead going into the eighth inning,
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  Speaker 3: you got to feel good about that. And then to me,
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  Speaker 3: you have you have a three or four guys that
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  Speaker 3: have at different points in times, been absolutely dominant.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: A Bizarredo has been good majority of the year. Carlos
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  Speaker 3: Vargas not necessarily so much the last little bit of
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  Speaker 3: the season, but he for the first two thirds of
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  Speaker 3: the season was one of your more consistent guys out
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  Speaker 3: of the bullpen. Gabe's been pretty much lights out the
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  Speaker 3: entire season. So yeah, I feel good about the bullpen,
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  Speaker 3: and yet it still is such a vo little thing
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  Speaker 3: that you don't know if you're going to have that
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  Speaker 3: bullpen that carries you all the way like we do,
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  Speaker 3: tend to see whoever the World Series champion is their
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  Speaker 3: bullpen didn't have a crap postseason.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you are not going to win at all of
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  Speaker 2: it they do.
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  Speaker 1: Dodgers is a great example. I don't think the Dodgers
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  Speaker 1: had a great bullpen, but in the playoffs last year
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  Speaker 1: they were phenomenal and probably the reason why they won
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  Speaker 1: the World Series. Not show Hey, not Freddie Freeman, even
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  Speaker 1: though Freddy was amazing. It was probably their bullpen, which
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  Speaker 1: going into the playoffs last year you would say was
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  Speaker 1: the weakness of their team, and yet it stepped up
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  Speaker 1: at the right time. So bullpen is hugely important in
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  Speaker 1: the postseason, and the only thing that we have as
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  Speaker 1: a guide is just how well did the bullpen perform
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  Speaker 1: during the regular season. Cleveland Guardians had the third best
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  Speaker 1: in all of Major League base by the way, and
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  Speaker 1: they're going to lean on it heavily in a five
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  Speaker 1: game series if they make it to us in the
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  Speaker 1: divisional round. But they are down in a manual class A.
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  Speaker 1: Turns out the guy loves to gamble what do you
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  Speaker 1: want me to tell you. Yeah, but they've got it.
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  Speaker 1: That's a weapon for them. The Guardians bullpen is a
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  Speaker 1: weapon for them. Meanwhile, Toronto's got the sixteenth best bullpen
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  Speaker 1: in the regular season, the Tigers the seventeenth, and they're slumping.
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  Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons why they tanked it at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the year. Like Will vest is not
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  Speaker 1: even pitching well and he's the only guy they trust
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  Speaker 1: right now. And the New York Yankees have had bullpen
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  Speaker 1: issues all year long. Even acquiring five of them at
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  Speaker 1: the trading deadline has not necessarily fixed that. They had
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  Speaker 1: the twenty third best bullpenn era during the regular season.
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  Speaker 1: So we sit there at ninth. And it is important
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  Speaker 1: because at this time of the year, you got a
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  Speaker 1: starter that's going going strong, even if the pitch counts up,
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  Speaker 1: you say keep going. But if you've got a starter
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  Speaker 1: that you depend on that's struggling at all, you pull
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  Speaker 1: him early. And if you've got a bullpen, you a
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  Speaker 1: good deep bullpen like I believe the Mariners have, then
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  Speaker 1: you feel confident in making that move. See is for
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  Speaker 1: Cal and it's been the year of Cal. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I mean there have been other guys certainly that have
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  Speaker 1: contributed strongly to this season, but it just feels like
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  Speaker 1: Cal's had the golden touch, from getting the contract, to
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  Speaker 1: getting off to the great start, to the All Star
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  Speaker 1: Game appearance, the starter in the All Star Game, to
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  Speaker 1: the home run Derby champion. I mean pretty much like
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  Speaker 1: Cal's like if he wished it, it came true this year.
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  Speaker 1: But make no mistake about it, Buck, and you know
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  Speaker 1: this better than anybody. It's all about for Cal Rawley
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  Speaker 1: what happens from this point forward. I mean, this has
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  Speaker 1: been a dream year for him and it will always
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  Speaker 1: register as probably the best year of his entire life.
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  Speaker 1: But if they don't get done as a team what
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  Speaker 1: they are planning to get done, cal rale, He's not
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  Speaker 1: gonna look at this year as a success.
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  Speaker 3: That's just yeah, and that's the way that it should be.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you can have your own personal accolades, and
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  Speaker 3: that's something that you get to have forever. You know,
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  Speaker 3: your own the home run Derby trophy. He doesn't have
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  Speaker 3: to share that with a team. But the idea of
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  Speaker 3: those all fall flat to some degree. If you you know,
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  Speaker 3: you go out here and just lay an egg in
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  Speaker 3: the Division Series and just don't even show up and
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  Speaker 3: don't even perform. Then all of a sudden, it's like
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  Speaker 3: you look at it and there's always the man, what
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  Speaker 3: if we had have done better there? What if we'd
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  Speaker 3: have finished that thing off the way that we want.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think you have to win the World Series
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  Speaker 3: for it to feel successful, but you've got advance past
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  Speaker 3: this round. I would think for col I would think
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  Speaker 3: anything less than getting to the World Series for the
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  Speaker 3: first time, he would feel like is less then, and
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  Speaker 3: it will diminish how great this season's been, even though
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  Speaker 3: you can't really take away from how great it's been
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  Speaker 3: just on an individual level.
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  Speaker 1: And you never know how athletes is going to respond
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  Speaker 1: to postseason baseball. I mean, we've seen guys thrive and
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  Speaker 1: elevate this time the year. But Barry Bonds had a
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  Speaker 1: hell of a time until he started juicing, and that
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  Speaker 1: gave him apparently some confidence, but he had a hell
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  Speaker 1: of a time being successful in the playoffs, and even
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  Speaker 1: juice or not juice, that's still one of the best
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  Speaker 1: players I've ever seen in my entire life, if not
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  Speaker 1: the best player I've ever seen in my entire life.
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Judge, I mean he's trying to get this monkey
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  Speaker 1: off his back about what whether or not he's a
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  Speaker 1: postseason performer. Alex Rodriguez man, he was terrible in the playoffs. So,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we got a little taste of cal a
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  Speaker 1: couple of years ago, but this is a different cal Raley,
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  Speaker 1: and this is a different feel. I mean, we're not
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  Speaker 1: going in there as a wild card team playing on
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  Speaker 1: the road. We're going in there as a division champ
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  Speaker 1: with a bye, starting this playoffs in the second round
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  Speaker 1: at home. And so, cal Raley, how do you perform
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  Speaker 1: in this situation? It really does separate superstars from legends.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that the idea of saying this guy
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  Speaker 3: can't do it in the playoffs, I think that gets
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  Speaker 3: thrown around too quickly. I think somebody could have a
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  Speaker 3: really amazing season and then they go they go one
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  Speaker 3: for twelve in their twelve postseason at bats, I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 3: he had a crab.
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  Speaker 2: He's not very good in the postseason.
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  Speaker 3: Like, okay, Now you get two three four postseasons in
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  Speaker 3: a row and you scuffle like Clayton Kershaw did majority
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  Speaker 3: of his postseason. It it taints what you've done during
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  Speaker 3: the regular season.
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  Speaker 4: He dated it. He got it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and yet I think that I think there's something
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  Speaker 3: about the way that you're wired that it makes you
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  Speaker 3: a little bit more predisposed to like you want that feel,
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  Speaker 3: you want the more pressure. And if there's one thing
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  Speaker 3: we've watched about Cal, it's different. The postseason is different.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna say it's guaranteed that he's going
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  Speaker 3: to perform and put up crazy numbers. But if he doesn't,
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  Speaker 3: it's not going to be because the moment's too big.
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  Speaker 3: It's not gonna be because he's withering and wilting and
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  Speaker 3: the pressure is too high. I can guarantee you he
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  Speaker 3: loves that idea. He handled it coming up in Julio's
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  Speaker 3: shadow to some extent, even Jared kelnick'show to some extent,
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  Speaker 3: you were like the the other guy that came up,
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  Speaker 3: the other young guy.
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  Speaker 2: Just handled it like that's fine. Just watch.
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  Speaker 3: I don't have to be loud about it. I don't
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  Speaker 3: have to come out and tell you how I lead.
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  Speaker 3: I just show you how I lead. And then when
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  Speaker 3: the moment called for him to, you know, go big,
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  Speaker 3: dump or fly and put us in the playoffs, he
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  Speaker 3: answered that bell. And then he basically has answered every
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  Speaker 3: bell since then. Not that he doesn't have his moments
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  Speaker 3: where he doesn't come through, but I just think he's
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  Speaker 3: wired for the This is what I this is what
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  Speaker 3: I'm meant to do. Is this situation. If you don't
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  Speaker 3: think that when you're stand on deck. I mean I
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  Speaker 3: would never sit there and say I don't want a
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  Speaker 3: guy to hit a home run here because I want
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  Speaker 3: an opportunity. But there's a part of me it's like
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  Speaker 3: if he didn't hit a home run and I do
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  Speaker 3: get an opportunity, it's like, oh, yes, I get my turn.
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  Speaker 1: Well there is uh you know, it's why you got
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  Speaker 1: to admire Mike Trout. He's like, you're not gonna label
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  Speaker 1: me in the postseason. I'm just not gonna make it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh oh Trout, I'm sad, not really.
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  Speaker 1: Like d is for dumpkins. Make sure that you get
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  Speaker 1: out there and get your dumpkins in time for Calloween.
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  Speaker 1: This year, the patches are probably already overrun.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and there was a rush at the grocery store yesterday,
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  Speaker 5: so I got there just in time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, dumpkin patches all over the Greater Pacific Northwest area.
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  Speaker 1: A couple out in Woodenville, you know, take the kids
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  Speaker 1: out there.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, let them right on the hay. Pick out your
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  Speaker 5: perfect dumpkins.
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  Speaker 1: We got a perfect fat dumpkin.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, cup hot cocoa.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you gotta have some some cider, maybe some
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  Speaker 1: warm cider that that goes with dumpkin picking. All right,
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  Speaker 1: Coming up next on the program, we all are to
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  Speaker 1: talk a little NFL. There's some really interesting stories going
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  Speaker 1: on out there, and we're gonna have to cover them.
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  Speaker 4: The two pitch it in the air and right back
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  Speaker 4: by the wall.
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  Speaker 1: Pause. He is done.
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  Speaker 7: One has gotten into these Cleveland gardens.
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  Speaker 4: He's the first pit splitter.
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  Speaker 8: The Cubs do not turn to the bullpen, and Mature.
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  Speaker 4: Hits it up over the bullpen. Three nothing, San Diego
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  Speaker 4: coming to Austin Wells. Hey, I's running the right.
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  Speaker 1: Field, says in the third he's being waved.
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  Speaker 8: Eyton coming home.
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  Speaker 6: Here's the row, he.
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  Speaker 9: Said, two out spaces clear eight four Dodgers, the O
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  Speaker 9: two line drive cot by Mookie Becks and that'll do it.
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  Speaker 9: The Dodgers sweep the Reds to ZIP and they'll take
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  Speaker 9: on the Phillies in the division series.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, thanks to all the highlights from the Major League
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  Speaker 1: Baseball playoffs yesterday. They're on ABC, ESPN. Was there any
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  Speaker 1: Westwood One in there?
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  Speaker 10: No?
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  Speaker 1: ABC?
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  Speaker 10: And uh yes, yeah yeah all right?
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  Speaker 1: So yes, Major League Baseball. Did you notice that the
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  Speaker 1: games are a little a little more intense because it
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  Speaker 1: was October and not September from the day before?
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  Speaker 2: Oh oh you noticed that months mattered?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, like September baseball playoffs is awesome, but October come on,
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  Speaker 11: big difference. Yeah, I didn't necessarily a lot more intense,
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  Speaker 11: considerably more intense.
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  Speaker 1: And there was some pumpkin spice flavor.
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  Speaker 2: Added to it. Really you did like smell it or
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  Speaker 2: in case you licked the TV.
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  Speaker 1: No, not at all. It just happens just in your system. Okay, yes,
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  Speaker 1: comes through. Uh huh okay. So wonderful stuff last night.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So one team has punched their ticket to the Divisional
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  Speaker 1: round and the wild Card round. That is the Los
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  Speaker 1: Angeles Dodgers did advance some of the Cincinnati Reds and
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  Speaker 1: straight games two. Oh, so they move on to take
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  Speaker 1: on the Philadelphia Phillies. That'll be a heck of a series.
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  Speaker 1: The Cleveland Guardians, the game that we're most interested in,
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  Speaker 1: did defeat the Detroit Tigers six to one, so they're
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  Speaker 1: going to settle that game that series today at noon.
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  Speaker 1: I'll get back to that in a moment. Padres won
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  Speaker 1: over the Cubs three to nothing, so they even upt
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  Speaker 1: their series, and the Yankees defeated the Red Sox last
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  Speaker 1: night four to three. They will play tonight at five
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  Speaker 1: o'clock to decide that series at Yankee Stadium. Yankees versus
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  Speaker 1: Red Sox incredible. Padres and Hubs will play at two o'clock. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: the Guardians and Tigers will play today at noon, so
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  Speaker 1: they're backing it up a little bit because they're only
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  Speaker 1: three games to play as post four. So at three o'clock,
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  Speaker 1: we will know the opponent for the Mariners in the
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  Speaker 1: divisional round, which we'll start on Saturday. And who knows,
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  Speaker 1: maybe we'll know ross decisions later on this evening once
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  Speaker 1: we know the opponent, maybe we'll know who's going to
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  Speaker 1: start game number one. Once we know the opponent, there
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  Speaker 1: could be some critical announcements made by the Mariners later
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  Speaker 1: this evening, but they don't have to make those decisions
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  Speaker 1: until Friday. In the meantime, the Mariner's scrimmage. They had
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  Speaker 1: a scrimmage yesterday at two o'clock. All went well. They're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have another one today at five o'clock. Hopefully all
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  Speaker 1: will go well. Of course, there's some other things going
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  Speaker 1: on at five o'clock today, the Yankees Red Sox Series,
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  Speaker 1: for example. Also Thursday Night Football, and it's an NFC
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  Speaker 1: West affair. Tonight, the Los Angeles Rams will be hosting
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  Speaker 1: Mac Jones and the San Francisco forty nine ers. Brock
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  Speaker 1: Purdy is out with an injury, and so Mac Jones
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  Speaker 1: will start against the Rams, who have gone from a
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  Speaker 1: point and a half favorite to an eight and a
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  Speaker 1: half point favorite this week. We'll talk to Mike Sando
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  Speaker 1: about that later on at nine thirty today, we'll talk
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  Speaker 1: to our own guys, Hugh Mellan and Greg Bell with
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  Speaker 1: a twelve man round table starting at eight o'clock today,
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  Speaker 1: So from eight to nine we'll break down Seahawks versus Buccaneers,
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  Speaker 1: nicky men, wari all sorts of headlines there to discuss,
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  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, you name it, and the Huskies will be
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  Speaker 1: an action against the Maryland Terrapins this Saturday at twelve thirty.
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  Speaker 1: Our own David Softy Maller now joins this.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, is it is it Saturday at one oh eight
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  Speaker 7: or five thirty eight?
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  Speaker 4: Yet it's not just yet?
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  Speaker 1: Not just yet. We'll let you know. We'll give you
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  Speaker 1: a little heads up. I'll text youpt for.
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  Speaker 7: God, can we can we maybe do your boy a
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  Speaker 7: favor over here? If we have the Yankees win this
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  Speaker 7: series so that the Mariners can play at five thirty
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  Speaker 7: eight on Saturday, I'll see what I can do. From
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  Speaker 7: a selfish perspective. Yeah, I'm no Yankee fan, but I'd
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  Speaker 7: love to see that game at five thirty eight. We
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  Speaker 7: got a Husky Football game at twelve thirty and if
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  Speaker 7: the Red Sox win, the Mariners play at one o'clock.
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  Speaker 7: So just you tell me how many folks are watching
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  Speaker 7: listening to Husky Football at one o'clock on Saturday if
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  Speaker 7: the Mariners are playing at the same time the Dogs are.
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  Speaker 1: I hear it, I hear you, I hear you. I
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  Speaker 1: mean then I think we match up better than the
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  Speaker 1: Red Sox, thinking than the Yankees. Thinking about that later
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  Speaker 1: down the road, But I'm not worried about either one.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's something I can jump on board with.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, well I'm not.
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  Speaker 7: You know, it's really funny, and I kind of feel
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  Speaker 7: like I should be worried about somebody. And I feel
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  Speaker 7: like I'm getting kind of cocky if I'm sitting around saying, ah,
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  Speaker 7: nobody scares me blah.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, nobody really scares me.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I think that this is this is kind
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  Speaker 7: of exactly what we thought was going to happen, maybe
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  Speaker 7: more so in the AL West than the actual American League.
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  Speaker 4: That the freaking thing is wide open this year, man.
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  Speaker 7: I mean even and you guys remember this the year
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  Speaker 7: the Mariners won one hundred and sixteen games, the A's
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  Speaker 7: won one hundred and two, for God's sakes and finished
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  Speaker 7: in second place in the division. So there's there's nobody
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  Speaker 7: like that in the American League this year, man. So
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  Speaker 7: I don't know, I just kind of feel like the
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  Speaker 7: team that scares me the most is our team that
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  Speaker 7: if they just can't get their act together and they've
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  Speaker 7: taken too much time off and they're a little rusty
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  Speaker 7: or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, the moment, I don't think the moment
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  Speaker 4: should be a problem for them.
• 16:00
  Speaker 7: They've got a ton of guys on this team that
• 16:02
  Speaker 7: have got playoff experience, but I just feel like if
• 16:05
  Speaker 7: they play their best baseball, nobody can stop us.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean I think that they're confident and I don't. Yeah,
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: you do, especially at this time in the morning. Usually
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: when I listen to you in the afternoon. Doesn't sound
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: sexy at all.
• 16:19
  Speaker 7: Right now, super, I'll start the show off at three
• 16:23
  Speaker 7: o'clock just like that for you.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: Welcome to the five twenty.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: Softy in Dick.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, whenever you announce your your the name of
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: your show, it does get me roused.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Any wow, Well, I mean.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: That's Bucky Jacobson.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: By the way, it is uncomfortable Lucky or not Jacobson
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: Softy in Dick every day, every day, three o'clock.
• 16:45
  Speaker 7: By the way, every time I see Cutter and Buck
• 16:46
  Speaker 7: pop up on like social media, I think it says
• 16:49
  Speaker 7: Chuck and Buck. You guys have that same problem.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah I don't.
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: But there's a movie name Chuck and Buck too.
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: By the way, Yes, yes, you wear that very well,
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: very well, and you're not using like that movie poster
• 17:01
  Speaker 7: is like your official show like imagery.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Or because of what the movie is about.
• 17:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, chucking Buck, That's what that movie is all about, Bucky, Yeah, Chuck.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: All right, So you giving the ball to on Saturday?
• 17:16
  Speaker 7: Uh, geez, probably George Kirby, to be honest with you,
• 17:20
  Speaker 7: what I mean, Yeah, I just don't know if Brian
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: Wu was ready.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: I mean he's not. He's not pitching on Saturday or Sunday?
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 17:27
  Speaker 7: Is that is that fair? Can we all agree on
• 17:29
  Speaker 7: that that they've made that pretty clear?
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: It kind of feels that way that maybe Game.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Three he's today, Yeah, so he won't throw it.
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: Well, it's either it's either George Kirby or Logan Gilbert.
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: I mean, I'm just looking up some numbers here, and
• 17:40
  Speaker 7: you know, look, I realize that some of this stuff
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: doesn't really matter because we don't really have a big
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: enough sample. But Logan Gilbert has made twenty starts in
• 17:47
  Speaker 7: his career, whereas he he's had six days off or more,
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: and he's got a two point four to three ERA. Uh,
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: George Kirby's got eighteen starts. Say he's got a three
• 17:56
  Speaker 7: eight seven. E. Ra Castillo's got forty three with a
• 18:00
  Speaker 7: three eighty three. Brian Wu six days or more fourteen,
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: his era is over five. Okay, So go back a
• 18:07
  Speaker 7: couple of years ago when he took eighteen days off
• 18:10
  Speaker 7: and he came back against the White Sox and was okay,
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: but he was on a pitch count, you know, sixty
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: five pitches, and I don't know. I mean, I just
• 18:17
  Speaker 7: I got a hard time fathoming the Mariners putting anybody
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: on a pitch count right now in the freaking playoffs,
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: especially in a five game series. But is it possible
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: that we can see Brian wu pitch Game three against
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: the Tigers or Guardians and actually be on a freaking
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: pitch count because he's taken two and a half weeks off.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Maybe because of injury. Yeah, maybe because of injury, But
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody else will be I think he
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: saw that in this round. Like there, if Logan Gilbert.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Let's say he gets the start and he's sitting there
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: in the fifth inning and pitch efficiency hasn't been great,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: and he's up over one hundred pitches, but he's dominating.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: They're not getting hits off of him. They're not gonna
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: take him out because of his pitch count. As long
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: as he's dominating they'll they'll push him.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: Well, you saw what yeah my Marono did last night.
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: I mean, god, you know, thanks to taoscar Hernandez, the
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: guy had to bust his ass in the first sitting yesterday,
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: and I never would have thought he would have lasted
• 19:07
  Speaker 7: as long as he did. But what do you do
• 19:08
  Speaker 7: one and ten hundred and fifteen pitches last night for
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: the Dodgers? Whatever the hell that was?
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: So?
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: I mean, for me, it's either Logan Gilbert or George Kirby.
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: Probably Logan Gilbert. To be totally honest with you, now
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: that I kind of wiped the crud out of my
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: eyes and look at these numbers I got in front
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: of my face, I'd probably say, Logan Gilbert gets the
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: ball on Saturday. A fine in charge, You should be
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: in charge. We've all felt that, right for you guys.
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: He's getting the ball for you guys in Game one.
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: I got Logan.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, buddy, I'm giving it to Luis Castillo. I just
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: think he's been thrown well as of late. One of
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: the criticians I've had of him since he's been a
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: Mariner has been when I feel like he plays down pitches,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: down those competition at times. But that's also because we've
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: seen him rise to the occasion and he's thrown really well.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Out of all of our starters, he's thrown the best
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: against these guys. Now Logan's thrown well against Cleveland as well.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: He's doing they've all.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: I'm not really going to be mad regardless of who
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: they put out there in Game one, to be.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: Honest, Yeah, yeah, I mean you could.
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: You can make an argument for probably any three of
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: those guys, Like who's got the best stuff, Probably Kirby,
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: who's pitching the best right now the last three or
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: four games. Probably Castillo, who's got a better history in
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: this situation, Probably the Logan Gilbert. I think, Chuck, you
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: just take Logan, I'll take Kirby for giggles, Bucky, you
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: take Luis Castillo, and the winner gets Ashley.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, get to take her home.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 20:28
  Speaker 10: I thought it couldn't get more uncomfortable.
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: Well it did, yes, exactly. Calloween, come on, what are
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: you thinking about Ashley and are doing up there in
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: Mill Creek? But that's not that we roll. We roll
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: in the deads. It's nothing, not the way Bucky rolls
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: in North Bend. And I don't know what the hell
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: Chuck's doing in Kirklan. We're not doing those types of things.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: You.
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: I'm just guys, honestly, I am just so fricking jacked
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: up for Saturday and Sunday, and really, again from a
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: selfish perspective, hoping this thing is. Is it late a
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: later start Saturday so I can get my ass down there.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: I'm already panicking. I'm already in a sweat.
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: I'm already flipping out with anxiety, trying to figure out
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: how I'm gonna get from Queen Anne Hill because we're
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: doing the show from Tom's watch bar for the Maryland
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: post game show on Saturday, all the way down to
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: Soto Wen time for a five thirty eight first pitch
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: on Saturday night.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: And then I'm already panicking thinking.
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: How was a fifty two year old man because the
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: last time I saw a Marina playoff game, by the way,
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: I was twenty seven years old. Because I was not
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: at that Houston game because I was working a Husky
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: game that day against Arizona. But I was a fifty
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: two year old man going to handle three hours of
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: Seahawk football everything that comes along with that pregame intermission
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: between the Seahawks and the MS and then get my
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: ass over to T Mobile Park for a playoff game
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: on Sunday night. On paper, it sounds like a phenomenal idea,
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: but here's me in about the fourth inning of Sunday
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: night's game.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and what I'm talking about it would take.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Down a normal man. You are not a normal man.
• 22:02
  Speaker 8: I mean.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: Amphetamines. You're gonna be riding.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: High of a major league playoff?
• 22:09
  Speaker 10: Are you?
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: What should I be taking with me? Lucky Sunday night.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: They're gonna have to put a Hannibal Lecter mask on you.
• 22:16
  Speaker 11: You're gonna be so fired up Saturday night sitting there
• 22:19
  Speaker 11: and see, God, you don't have to worry about that.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Now you're gonna crash after afterwards. It's gonna be a
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: great night's sleep for you come Sunday night.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: But h yeah, you're not believable.
• 22:29
  Speaker 10: Man.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: What a day? What a day Sunday is going to be?
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: You cannot wait?
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Uh, Softie is with us every Thursday we talk Huskies football,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: but obviously we got other things on our mind as
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: well on this Thursday. But let's do talk a little
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Huskies of football.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Here.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: A few days removed from losing by eighteen points to
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: the number one ranked team in America. Are you upset
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: about it? Are you accepting of it? Where are you
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: at right now?
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: With all I don't think any team that's got Denzel Boston,
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: Jonah Coleman, and DeMont William should ever be accepting scoring
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: six points against anybody. I don't care who you're playing,
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: right I mean, look, I get it, Ohio State's awesome.
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: You know, they got a couple of defensive linemen that
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: Washington could just not handle at all. That that linebacker
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: they've got what's at number seven, number eight? I forget now,
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: the kid that ran down Tomond on that third down
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: play when he was scrambling out to his left.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: That guy is a freak. I mean, they've got players
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: on that team.
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: You know, Dick and I were talking, I'm not sure
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: if there's a Husky starter on defense that would start
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: for Ohio State on their defense, honestly. I mean, we
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: can talk about Price socking Davis when those guys are healthy, maybe,
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: but those guys are really freaking good man.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: So that's number one.
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: But again, I mean, you know we've been touting at
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: least a lot of us are is maybe the one
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: of the best, if not the best trios of skill
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: players in the Big Ten. So I don't think anybody
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: can be satisfied with scoring six points. I don't care
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: who you're playing for crying out loud, but you know,
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: how do I feel about the Ohio State game? Asked
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: me in a month? Right, ask me after Maryland, asked
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: me after Rutgers. And if the if the offense struggles
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: against those two teams, then obviously you're not You're not
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: happy at all. But if they just blow it up
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: and you know, on Illinois and Michigan and Wisconsin later on,
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: and score a bunch of points, then maybe in November
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: late October, we can look back at the Ohio State
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: game and say, Okay, that was an anomaly. They just
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: played a phenomenal defense that might be the best defense
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: in the country. They learned from it, and they moved on.
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: But I do think that there is reason for Husky
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: fans to wonder how good is this offense. I mean,
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: they were scoring fifty points a game, but they're playing
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: nobody in the first three games of the year, right,
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: I mean, even the biggest Husky Hanks like me, you
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: have got to admit that that CSU, the Aggies of
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: UC Davis, Wa Zoo. I mean, those are high school
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: teams in a lot of ways. You know, no disrespect
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: to Washington State, they were the best team they played
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: among those three, but iiO State, the Big Ten is
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: a totally different kind of meats. So I don't know, man,
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: I'm just I'm just sitting the here going into Week five,
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: just kind of really curious as to how good this
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: offense truly is.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, iould think that even going into it, considering
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: who you played in the first three, that there had
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: to be some sort of tempered expectation. That doesn't mean
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: you would then do like, okay, six points. That's fine
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: because that's the number one team. And so what do
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: you expecting this week? They got to go on the road.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: They got a road win if you want to call it.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: That a going to Wazoo. That's the first one in
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: the Jetfish era. But this is one where you're getting
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: that Big ten travel in. So what are you expecting
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: about them bouncing back?
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: Can I just admit something to you guys real quick here? Yeah,
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: please remember the SNL scene with Chris Farley where he's
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: dreaming about sausages.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just sausage sausage.
• 25:23
  Speaker 7: As Bucky is talking there asking questions about the husky
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: is I'm just thinking Mariners Game one.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: How many heart attacks are you going to have watching
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: the Mariners on Saturday.
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: Well, you guys know where I've been the last two days,
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: don't you. No, you guys have any idea what I
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: did the last time of Oh yeah I do now
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: now I feel so the odds of that, hopefully it
• 25:45
  Speaker 7: dropped a little bit. Oh gosh, I mean to bring
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: that into the e commerce. Oh, it's all good. It's
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: why I planned it, now, are you kidding me? Before
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: first pitch on Saturday, I want to make sure that
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: the pipes are open and the blood's flowing properly and
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: all that stuff. So yeah, I mean hopefully I got
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: a you know, doctor Mooney or whatever, Doctor Ralston hopefully
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: did their freaking job and we're not having a smoke
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: break when I was getting this thing put in. But
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: I would hope the odds of that have following for
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: the game on Saturday. But Bucky, back to your question
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: about the road games. I mean, look, they haven't won
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: a conference road games since Oregon State in twenty twenty
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: three in November, so it's been almost two years since
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: they've won a game against a conference team on the road. Now,
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: that was a Pac twelve team. This is a Big
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: Ten team, and you know, this is one of five teams.
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: I know there's been some talk about this.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: I think it's a.
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: Little bit unfair because there was an article that John
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: Wilner wrote about the Big Ten inequities in the schedule,
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: and Awful Announcing picked it up and they quoted. You know,
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: there was one line from John's article about Washington, but
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: a lot of it was about USC and UCLA. Because
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: the bitching and the moaning about the Big Ten travel
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: is mostly coming from LA To be totally honest with you,
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: it's mostly coming from Lincoln Rightley and Mitt Cronin with
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: the UCLA basketball team.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: I haven't heard.
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: Anybody at you dub, including Jetfish, bitch, you moan, wine,
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: you piss and moan about the schedule at all when
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: really they've got maybe the biggest right to and it's
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: not the travel. This is one of five teams that
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: we play coming off a by Ohio State, Maryland, Rutgers, Illinois,
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: and Wisconsin, and you gotta fly out there so I
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: don't know what to make of this game. I mean,
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: I'm a little bit surprised that Washington's as big a
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: favorite as they are there. They're giving almost a touchdown
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: on the road. This Malik Washington kid, the quarterback, he's
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: a true freshman, Bucky. He's eighteen years old and he's
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: six five, two thirty. I mean he is a beast
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: for an eighteen year old kid. So I don't know
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: how good this guy is either because they haven't played anybody.
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: I mean, they've played FIU or excuse me, fau NIU
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: and Towson State and Wisconsin who's terrible. So we're gonna
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: find out a lot about both these teams on Friday night.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: For sure.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: You'll find out today when you talk to coach new Heisler.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: He put a lot of respect on that Maryland name. Yes, early,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Yes he did.
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: And we're gonna talk to Rick new Heisler about the
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: brand new offensive coordinator and play caller at UCLA.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Did you hear about that? Is that his son, his
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: son Jerry? Oh look at that?
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: Look at that.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: Now calling plays?
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: He just go back and be the u c l
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: A head coach for good.
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: I mean he would do it. I know you would
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: do it. I mean, that thing is a train wreck
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: down there, man. I mean, out of all the teams
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: that entered the Big Ten from the Pac twelve, I
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: think they are the.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: Most hosed, if that makes any sense.
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: I think they are the most screwed of all the
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: teams that entered that conference because their fans just do
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: not give a damn honestly. I mean they're they're fans
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: down there might be doing the same thing I'm doing
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: right now and just thinking Mariners news.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I know, sus she is big.
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: This is a big one on Friday night or Saturday guys.
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: Sorry for you, Dub, because I think they got they
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: got four games left to go that should be automatic wins. Rutgers, Perdue, Ucla,
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: and Wisconsin are all terrible football teams, and you, Dub,
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: if they're even close to legitimate, should win them all.
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: That's seven games, right, seven wins right there?
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: And then the other four Maryland, Missing, Illinois, Oregon. Do
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: you win one and you're an eight and four team?
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: Do you win two and you're a nine win team?
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: I mean this is those four games should be w's
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: and this is one of the remaining four that to
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: me are kind of close to toss ups.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: All right, plug something before we let you go five
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: twenty bar and grill today, Mike Comgrin, Rick new Heisl
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: before Thursday night football?
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: What is it? Rams and Niners without Purty?
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: Is that right tonight at at five point fifteen, So
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: sneaking in as much Mariner love as we can. We'll
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: be at Jimmy's tomorrow. I think we're doing a big
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: old round table. I know you guys are fired up
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: for that tomorrow afternoon, so look forward to that.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: But I just, I just.
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: I'm literally counting down the minutes until Saturday, man, And
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: the fact that we have to sit around the night
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: waiting for this Red Sock Yankee game to be over,
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: to wait and see what time we play on Saturday
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: pisses me off. But I guess it's the It's the
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: price you pay for being the two seasons.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: All right, man, thank you, we'll talk to you later.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: All right, boys, all right, there is David Softy mall
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, fellas, good morning, good morning, good morning. All Right,
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  Speaker 1: Buccaneers on Sunday, for my money, the best team this
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  Speaker 1: team has faced this year. But you know where I
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  Speaker 1: want to start. I want to go back to what
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  Speaker 1: we did last Thursday. Hugh, you made a comment about, yes,
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  Speaker 1: it's tough to play Thursday night football, but if you
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  Speaker 1: can win that game, the advantage it gives you the
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  Speaker 1: following week. Well, facing this good of a team, I'll
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  Speaker 1: take any advantage I can get. And this sounds like
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  Speaker 1: the healthiest the Seahawks have been in quite some time,
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  Speaker 1: so I'd love to see them take full advantage of
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  Speaker 1: these extra days of rest, recovery, and preparation to face
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  Speaker 1: this Buccaneers team on Sunday.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, because the Buccaneers had to play the Eagles and
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  Speaker 12: everything that entailed physically and emotionally playing at home, and
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  Speaker 12: of course they didn't win that game. They had another
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  Speaker 12: valiant late game effort that almost came through like it
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  Speaker 12: had in the first couple of weeks. So I think
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  Speaker 12: that that's difficult for them. Coupled them obviously flying about
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  Speaker 12: as far as you can in the NFL across the country,
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  Speaker 12: and then Seattle having that advantage. You know, the point was, Hey,
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  Speaker 12: the Cardinals and the Seahawks greg were on equal footing.
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  Speaker 12: They both it sucked for both of them to have
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  Speaker 12: to play on Thursday. But now they get the Seahawks,
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  Speaker 12: they get that advantage for having that extra kind of
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  Speaker 12: mini buy.
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  Speaker 8: They had Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Tuesday off from practice.
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  Speaker 8: Weren't on the field at all, so four out of
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  Speaker 8: five days the Seahawks were off. They're not fully healthy.
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  Speaker 8: I don't think the Marcus Lawrence is going to play
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  Speaker 8: this week with the thigh injury he got in Arizona.
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  Speaker 8: He didn't practice yesterday. Mike McDonald was starting to learn
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  Speaker 8: how he is with injuries, and when he is a
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  Speaker 8: circumspect about Lawrence as he's been, it usually means not
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  Speaker 8: going to play. Devin Witherspoon didn't practice yesterday either, but
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  Speaker 8: I think they are managing his knee. He had a
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  Speaker 8: big ice wrap on his knee in the locker room
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  Speaker 8: in Arizona after he played. And Julian Love didn't practice
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  Speaker 8: yesterday with a hamstring, but I expect him to play
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  Speaker 8: as well. But Lawrence could be the one that even
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  Speaker 8: with this mini buye not going to play. The players
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  Speaker 8: went away, it was like having a second by the
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  Speaker 8: coaches stayed and did some self scouting, and we've talked
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  Speaker 8: about how they've been very good when they've run to
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  Speaker 8: the left side and left leaning off. We also talked
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  Speaker 8: this week, Chuck and I did about how they are
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  Speaker 8: running left the last couple of weeks since Pittsburgh, they
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  Speaker 8: have run about thirty thirty five percent of the time
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  Speaker 8: to the left, sixty five percent to the right, and
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  Speaker 8: they haven't even come close to their rushing totals they
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  Speaker 8: had against the Steelers. They are trying to get their
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  Speaker 8: running game going. That's part of what they were doing
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  Speaker 8: in the Mini buy. The coaches are trying to reapproach
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  Speaker 8: the run game. They are far from hole on the offense,
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  Speaker 8: and they're not going to get their offensive identity straight
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  Speaker 8: until they get their running game straight.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about that. You dive into that this
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  Speaker 1: running game still is not where it wants to be,
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  Speaker 1: and yet they are fully committed to it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you've got one of the hottest quarterbacks in the National
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  Speaker 1: Football League. He's throwing the ball about forty percent of
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  Speaker 1: the snaps to this point, and yet a struggling running
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  Speaker 1: attack is still the point of emphasis on trying to
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  Speaker 1: get this offense going. What do you make of all that, Well,
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  Speaker 1: the numbers.
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  Speaker 12: Would suggest, based on the the difference in the efficiency,
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  Speaker 12: that the Seahawks ought to pass the ball more. I
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  Speaker 12: think that they feel philosophically that if they do pass
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  Speaker 12: the ball more, the efficiency will go down and and
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  Speaker 12: sacks will come into play and the like, and so
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  Speaker 12: uh yeah, that's probably at this juncture, almost at the
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  Speaker 12: quarter pole of the season, probably the biggest disappointment for
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  Speaker 12: the Seahawks is how they have run the ball. And
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  Speaker 12: it's not just the wide zone. Uh, They're they're trying
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  Speaker 12: other things. In fact that I think they've had a
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  Speaker 12: lower percentage of wide zone that I had anticipated. You know,
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  Speaker 12: they they're they're running duo inside plays inside zone, they're
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  Speaker 12: running power encounter the gap schemes, they're pin and poll,
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  Speaker 12: they're they're trying to get different type of schemes and uh,
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  Speaker 12: and you know, really they just kind of are mired
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  Speaker 12: in difficulty. And I think, I mean, Canine has had
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  Speaker 12: some of the most amazing four yard runs that a
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  Speaker 12: guy could possibly have, and with with guys just showing
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  Speaker 12: up totally unblocked, and his lateral quickness is able to
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  Speaker 12: to at least reconcile something. So I think that they'll
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  Speaker 12: continue continue to hammer at it. But I would say
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  Speaker 12: from a scheme standpoint, Uh, it's not for lack of trying,
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  Speaker 12: because we're seeing a lot of effort. From a different
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  Speaker 12: scheme standpoint.
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  Speaker 1: Greg, let's talk about somebody who's back and healthy. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's a huge talking point this week, Nick emn
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  Speaker 1: worry is he playing Sunday and is he going to
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  Speaker 1: Are we finally going to get to see this role
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  Speaker 1: we've been dreaming about and wondering about all off season.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, he was full participant in practice yesterday. It's the
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  Speaker 8: first time he's been full since he's high ankle spring.
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  Speaker 8: The fourth snap he had of the season in the opener,
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  Speaker 8: and that's game. He played four of the first five
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  Speaker 8: snaps against San Francisco and the opener, and I had
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  Speaker 8: my badocas trained on him. McDonald put him as an
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  Speaker 8: outside linebacker, he put him as a post safety, and
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  Speaker 8: they put him in the slot. He got injured as
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  Speaker 8: an outside linebacker, whitzing free when no one blocked him
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  Speaker 8: and he ran into Christian McCaffrey for a tackle for loss.
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  Speaker 8: We saw in just four plays, three different ways McDonald
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  Speaker 8: intends to use him. They have just been mixing and
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  Speaker 8: matching without him yet, still trying the big safety with
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  Speaker 8: the Anthony Bell and Tyle Cotta. So McDonald is intent
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  Speaker 8: on doing this, But now he's got the guy he's
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  Speaker 8: intending to do it with back in his lineup, and
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  Speaker 8: I think we're going to see the fool even worry
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  Speaker 8: and everything McDonald wants to do with him. Right away,
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  Speaker 8: they held him out. This is the fourth of the
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  Speaker 8: week that he has had since the injury. When they
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  Speaker 8: didn't put him on injured reserve, it suggested that he
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  Speaker 8: would be back after at least four games, because otherwise
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  Speaker 8: they would put him on iron. He would have missed
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  Speaker 8: four weeks and it could have cleared a roster spot,
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  Speaker 8: so they have been missing him. The defense run defense, though,
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  Speaker 8: has been good. They haven't had had to commit as
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  Speaker 8: meant many snaps to a safety down in the box
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  Speaker 8: and still stopping the run while getting pressure from the
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  Speaker 8: front four in the past game if Arizona This is
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  Speaker 8: a big if, but if Arizona had not scored in
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  Speaker 8: the last five fifty two touchdowns Thursday night, this team
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  Speaker 8: still would have not allowed seventeen points a game, they
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  Speaker 8: would be leading the league in points allowed. As it is,
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  Speaker 8: they're only giving up about seventeen points a game. Only
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  Speaker 8: one team scored more than seventeen Arizona with the twenty
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  Speaker 8: at the end of the game. They are okay defensively
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  Speaker 8: doing it with that with Devin Witherspoon missing two games,
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  Speaker 8: with Emon worried all with four snaps so far this season,
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  Speaker 8: and they're doing it without having to blitz when they're
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  Speaker 8: pressuring and affecting quarterbacks without having to blitz and just
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  Speaker 8: getting the front four Leonard Williams, Lawrence until he got hurt,
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  Speaker 8: Jaron Reid and Byron Murphy. Those four are allowing McDonald
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  Speaker 8: to cover with seven, and Bucky and Hugh and you
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  Speaker 8: and me, we can all figure out seven against four
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  Speaker 8: eligible receivers. You're going to be able to cover that
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  Speaker 8: most of the time. And that's the numbers that have been
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  Speaker 8: in Seattle's favors so far. Emon war is going to
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  Speaker 8: only add to that. Pretty encouraging for the Seahawks to
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  Speaker 8: be as good as they have been for four games
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  Speaker 8: on defense without even worried being in but all with
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  Speaker 8: four players.
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  Speaker 1: H don't even worry. Be happy he's back. He's back
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  Speaker 1: for us. All you excited about that?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 12: And I think I think that he is really the
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  Speaker 12: Swiss Army knife that Mike McDonald really covets. I think
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  Speaker 12: he sees him in something of a Kyle Hamilton roll.
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  Speaker 12: The safety they do everything safety for the Ravens, who's
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  Speaker 12: first has been first team All Pro and acknowledged to
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  Speaker 12: be one of the best players of that style.
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  Speaker 1: In the league.
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  Speaker 12: Now, he only played four plays against the forty nine ers.
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  Speaker 1: My notes.
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  Speaker 12: I don't have him as a post safety, Greg I
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  Speaker 12: have him the one time he was deep it was
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  Speaker 12: a quarter safety where they're rolling cover two to the
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  Speaker 12: weeks and he was backing off in the quarters. I
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  Speaker 12: I we haven't seen him play. I didn't think he
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  Speaker 12: was good in post safety at South Carolina, being a
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  Speaker 12: single safety and and and that's a weakness, so I
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  Speaker 12: don't I would contend that he has had a snap
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  Speaker 12: at post safety.
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  Speaker 8: Okay, well, all call it deep cover safety a quarter safety.
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  Speaker 12: But but I think that the most significant of those
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  Speaker 12: four plays for me was the time they went cover
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  Speaker 12: one man to man and he was aligned to cover
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  Speaker 12: Christian McCaffrey out of the backfield and with with no
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  Speaker 12: bracket help. And and there was a play I believe
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  Speaker 12: it was Kansas City, but there was a play that
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  Speaker 12: made an imprint on me in the preseason when they
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  Speaker 12: went cover one. That's that's man to man and he
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  Speaker 12: was aligned out on the slot against I even looked
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  Speaker 12: up the height and weight of the receiver. I think
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  Speaker 12: he was sub one hundred and ninety pounds, so presumably
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  Speaker 12: a quick guy. The hoof, he looked like a quick
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  Speaker 12: receiver in the slot and they had a feeling that, hey,
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  Speaker 12: you just match up, use your length. You're a good
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  Speaker 12: enough athlete to be able to be paired in the slot.
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  Speaker 12: I think that's an important point because in the alignment
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  Speaker 12: that they want to have him as a nickel Sam
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  Speaker 12: often coaches called that the star position, that nickel Sam position.
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  Speaker 12: You can't just say, well, they won't they the Seahawks
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  Speaker 12: won't play man to man if we put a guy
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  Speaker 12: in a slot against him. The Seahawks have shown a
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  Speaker 12: willingness to put Amon Worry in man and man situations
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  Speaker 12: against ostensibly, you know, a challenging and quick player. Certainly
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  Speaker 12: McCaffrey would fit that description. So I think there's a
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  Speaker 12: lot they plan to do with them. And I think
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  Speaker 12: Mmike McDonald's is feeling like he gets his second crack
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  Speaker 12: at Christmas this Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: With his brand new toy. They have a pretty versatile
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  Speaker 1: running back greg and Bucky Irving, but he doesn't look
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  Speaker 1: like he's going to be playing this week either. So
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  Speaker 1: how much easier does that make life for the Seahawks
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  Speaker 1: defense Sunday?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, our Bucky the Duck was talking about Bucky Irving
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  Speaker 8: the Duck earlier this week. Now, important. That is he
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  Speaker 8: was in a walking boot yesterday and Tampa reporters said
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  Speaker 8: and also with crutches, and Todd Bowles, the coach of
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  Speaker 8: the Buccaneers, said, well, if he's still in crutches in
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  Speaker 8: a walking boot Friday, he's not going to play obviously,
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  Speaker 8: so they're holding out hope he still can play if
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  Speaker 8: he can rapidly improve between then and Friday. If he
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  Speaker 8: doesn't play, that is a big deal because I've talked
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  Speaker 8: about how Irving is very decisive, but not just in
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  Speaker 8: the run game. He hasn't had a game yet this
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  Speaker 8: season Bucky Irving where he hasn't had at least fourteen
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  Speaker 8: carries and four receptions out of the backfield, and that
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  Speaker 8: is one thing the Seahawks have struggled with defensively. Our
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  Speaker 8: passes to the running backs outside in the flat and
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  Speaker 8: tackling after the catch secondary missed multiple tackles and even
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  Speaker 8: just in the first half alone when they were controlling
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  Speaker 8: the game against Arizona, Bucky Irving is a dual threat
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  Speaker 8: guy against them outside and inside pass and run. If
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  Speaker 8: he's not in there, well, Rashad White would be the
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  Speaker 8: number one back. You remember that name. I remember watching
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  Speaker 8: Rashad White won all over the Seahawks in Munich in
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  Speaker 8: twenty twenty two. As a rookie. The Buccaneers had the
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  Speaker 8: thirty second ranked run offense, and Tom Brady changed got
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  Speaker 8: to the line of scrimmage in Munich and turned every
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  Speaker 8: pass call into a run and they ran for one
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  Speaker 8: hundred and fifty yards in the first half, where Shad
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  Speaker 8: White had his first one hundred yard game. He's only
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  Speaker 8: had three in his four year career. Rashad White will
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  Speaker 8: be the number one if Bucky Irving can't run on Sunday,
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  Speaker 8: and they will run because they don't want Baker Mayfield
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  Speaker 8: exposed to a pass rush to tease off on him
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  Speaker 8: as much as as Mayfield can extend plays by the
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  Speaker 8: way yesterday, Mike McDonald said that in their metrics they
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  Speaker 8: used for extending plays by quarterbacks, Baker Mayfield is number
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  Speaker 8: one in the league, the best in the league at
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  Speaker 8: doing it and producing yards outside the pocket extending plays. So,
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  Speaker 8: just like Kiler Murray last week, it's another week of
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  Speaker 8: the Seahawks pass rush. Having the rush disciplined outside in
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  Speaker 8: rush lanes contained may be more important than sacks on
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  Speaker 8: some plays because Baker Mayfield will kill you if you
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  Speaker 8: get him outside. Mayfield, by the way, is the first
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  Speaker 8: quarterback in NFL history. Its found this out last night.
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  Speaker 8: He was writing about him first quarterback in NFL history
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  Speaker 8: to win three games to start a season, all in
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  Speaker 8: the final minute. They were three to zero for the
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  Speaker 8: first time since two thousand and five until the Eagles
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  Speaker 8: beat him the other day, and that was because the
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  Speaker 8: Eagles took a twenty one point lead. Mayfield almost brought
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  Speaker 8: him all the way back. He's still dangerous. It is
• 43:43
  Speaker 8: a good Cooper Cup story. I wrote in the News
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  Speaker 8: Tribune this morning about why Cooper Cup loves and it
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  Speaker 8: respects Baker Mayfield. Y'all remember the Thursday night game Rams
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  Speaker 8: and Raiders twenty twenty two. If you remember that Baker
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  Speaker 8: Mayfield had gotten cut by the Carolina pa Anthews because
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  Speaker 8: Sam Darnold took his job. In twenty twenty two, it
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  Speaker 8: was the year that the Panthers traded with the Browns
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  Speaker 8: to get Baker Mayfield, the former number one pick from
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  Speaker 8: twenty eighteen. Donald takes his job because Mayfield only when
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  Speaker 8: one of six starts. Panthers start, Donald wave Mayfield. Rams
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  Speaker 8: pick him up on a Tuesday and have a Thursday
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  Speaker 8: night game against the Raiders, John Wolford started. Remember John
• 44:23
  Speaker 8: Wolford beat the Seahawks up here at SEFI.
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  Speaker 4: For three full of muscle beat the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 8: He had another journeyman quarterbacker game in here in the
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  Speaker 8: Peak earlier and beat him. John Wolford started that game
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  Speaker 8: the Thursday night against the Raiders in Inglewood. Three plays,
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  Speaker 8: three yards, three and out. The Raiders took a ten
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  Speaker 8: to nothing lead, and McVeigh put Baker Mayfield in. Mayfield
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  Speaker 8: brought him back from a sixteen to three deficit ninety
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  Speaker 8: eight yard drive and the finals, he went ninety eight
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  Speaker 8: yards in ninety five seconds. Learning Sean mcvay's offense in
• 44:54
  Speaker 8: two days, Cooper cup Shit said yesterday is one of
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  Speaker 8: the most remarkable things he's ever seen. Learning mcday's offense
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  Speaker 8: in two days enough to go down and win an
• 45:02
  Speaker 8: NFL game. He said, there are people in LA who
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  Speaker 8: still revere Baker Mayfield for pulling that trick off, and
• 45:08
  Speaker 8: so make Mayfield and and Darnold's career at Arcs are
• 45:12
  Speaker 8: almost similar. Going to play each other on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a wild ride here. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if I've seen it. I mean you see, like
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  Speaker 1: in those football games where you can track the percentage
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  Speaker 1: chance that you have to win the game. Mayfield's career
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: has been like a number one overall pick one hundred
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: percent chance he's going to be successful, and then at
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: one point it was like zero percent. This guy's done.
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  Speaker 1: And now he's back to being considered an MVP candidate
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  Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay. It's been a wild ride with Baker Mayfield.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, it looks like some kind of an earthquake meter, right,
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  Speaker 12: but uh, you know, I think that he by his personalities,
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  Speaker 12: there's a resilience.
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  Speaker 2: There's a maturity that he's had.
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  Speaker 12: I know, Uh, Colin Coward had been a real critic
• 45:54
  Speaker 12: of his maturity and and and Coward has had to
• 45:59
  Speaker 12: you know, can see that the guy really has maturity
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  Speaker 12: as a playmaker. I mean, he's a leader, he's feisty,
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  Speaker 12: and I when I watch him, I see a quarterback
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  Speaker 12: who plays fast. Everything that he does, his feeder fast,
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  Speaker 12: his release, he plays with that. You can see that
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  Speaker 12: it's almost like he's clenching his teeth. He makes decisions,
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  Speaker 12: he goes to his progressions fast. He throws the ball hard.
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  Speaker 12: The ball goes fast and and I think at this
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  Speaker 12: juncture of his career, you know, he's just grooving and
• 46:32
  Speaker 12: he's got good targets. Although obviously Mike Evans the absence
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  Speaker 12: of him really helps Seattle, but a Mecca Buka, the
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  Speaker 12: local kid, has really emerged, and so I think that
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  Speaker 12: they they feel like they have a guy that they
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  Speaker 12: can absolutely win a Super bowls. Obviously look at how
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  Speaker 12: they're playing, but you know, in talking about the run percentage,
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  Speaker 12: that the while the Seahawks are second in in run
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  Speaker 12: percentage only to Philadelphia, the Buccaneers are dead in the middle.
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  Speaker 12: There's sixteenth at forty three and a half percent run percentage,
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  Speaker 12: but in terms of rush yards differential to Greg's point,
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  Speaker 12: the Buccaneers are sixth. So they still want to win
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  Speaker 12: with Baker Mayfield throwing the ball, but they run it
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  Speaker 12: enough and they are effective enough to have those type
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  Speaker 12: of numbers.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield Tampa Bay Buccaneers coming into town on Sunday
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: to take on the Seahawks. So we got a lot
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: more to discuss in this very very interesting matchup. I mean,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: we might even take time to talk about the uniforms
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: in this game. Sorry, that's a big story in and
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: of itself. We've got Greg Bell, We've got Hugh Millan.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: It's our twelfth Man Roundtable. We do it every Thursday
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: right here at Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ
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  Speaker 1: A r f M. All right, segment of our twelve
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Man round Table. Seahawks hosting the Buccaneers. They're keeping the
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: same start time. It's not going to interfere with Mariner's
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Playoff Baseball. They've shoved that to a Sunday night, and
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: so one o'clock start in this game, Boy, why don't
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: you get us started on keys and a prediction here
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Seahawks Buccaneers.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: That's pretty obvious where the key is.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, if the Seahawks want to win, you've better
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: control that guy named Bucky. I mean, you go against
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: a Bucky things is dangerous.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Well, since he's not gonna plays well.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a good sign. That's a good sign.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be Yeah, I mean, I think, honestly, I
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: think it to me, it kind of goes something that
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: I was hearing Hugh and Greg talk about, was Vidavea
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: that the he plays, he's a disruptor and he plays
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: against the spot that is probably the weakest spot on
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: something that's still the jury's out on whether or not.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: It's vastly improved.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: I have a feeling he's going to be pushing the
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: pocket back a little bit, and therefore you got to
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: hope that Sam Darnold's make him or that Kubiak's getting
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: him on the move away from where that pressure is
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: coming right back up the middle, and that he is
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: not turning the ball over. I kind of feel like
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: this is a game that could go really could.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Go either way.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: But I'm gonna go ahead and keep riding the Seahawks.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: I think Sam Donald is controlled. I think he understands
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: how to run this whole thing, and so I'm going
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: twenty one to nineteen Seahawks.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Twenty one nineteen Seahawks over the Buccaneers.
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: Greg, what do you got?
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 49:28
  Speaker 8: The Bucky Irving factor is a big one. If a
• 49:31
  Speaker 8: one dimensional offense against Mike McDonald, he usually handles from
• 49:35
  Speaker 8: Baltimore and in his short time so far in Seattle,
• 49:39
  Speaker 8: if they can make Baker Mayfield have to throw to
• 49:42
  Speaker 8: win and throw constantly, the Seahawks are going to win.
• 49:46
  Speaker 8: They're going to take out a Buka without Mike Evans
• 49:49
  Speaker 8: in there. Buka is really the top thread to game
• 49:52
  Speaker 8: plan against, and mcdonald'll have a probably bracket scheme for
• 49:55
  Speaker 8: two on him. Look for Kate otten from Tom Water
• 49:58
  Speaker 8: to have a big game at the tight end position.
• 50:02
  Speaker 8: He's clutched for them third down receiver inside. If Abuka
• 50:07
  Speaker 8: gets the coverage, I expect him to. Kate Aughten could
• 50:09
  Speaker 8: have a good game in his homecoming. But I think
• 50:13
  Speaker 8: one dimensional offenses against Mike McDonald's a bad recipe for
• 50:16
  Speaker 8: some team. Kind of come in and beat this defense.
• 50:19
  Speaker 8: And Bucky's right hughes right Vita Vera has a chance
• 50:23
  Speaker 8: to disrupt the game. Fortunately for the Seahawks, getting Donald
• 50:27
  Speaker 8: away from him outside is Donald's best attribute. That's what
• 50:30
  Speaker 8: they want to do with him anyway. I think that'll
• 50:33
  Speaker 8: be a key. They're going to be tough sledding running
• 50:35
  Speaker 8: against this defense in veya up front. I think another
• 50:37
  Speaker 8: game we're going to say where's the run game? I
• 50:40
  Speaker 8: say Sam Donald beats Baker Mayfield in the fourth quarter
• 50:43
  Speaker 8: and they win something like twenty to sixteen for their
• 50:46
  Speaker 8: fourth straight win.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: I love that it was funny and breaker Mayfield's press
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: conference earlier this week, he was asked about Sam Donald
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: and he said, yeah, he's a great guy. We were
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: really good buddies when we were in Carolina together. And
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: they go, do you have any great memories from that
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: time I'm in Carolina with him.
• 51:01
  Speaker 8: From the good old days of the Carolina Panthers.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Did he ask him?
• 51:04
  Speaker 12: Yeah?
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: And Baker goes, nope, nope, negative.
• 51:09
  Speaker 8: Well he first, he said, first, he said, what kind
• 51:11
  Speaker 8: of days is there? Weren't any good old days?
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: All right, you close this out. What are your final
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: thoughts on this roundtable as we prepare for the Bucks?
• 51:23
  Speaker 12: Well, you had asked about matchups and and you know,
• 51:27
  Speaker 12: you're just getting started, and and and a couple of
• 51:30
  Speaker 12: things we haven't discussed. I think, you know, Tarik Woolan,
• 51:33
  Speaker 12: I don't know where he is on his career. I
• 51:35
  Speaker 12: feel like on some level he's he's kind of balancing
• 51:38
  Speaker 12: on the blade of a knife. I think he's got
• 51:40
  Speaker 12: to pick it up. I think that the matchup there
• 51:43
  Speaker 12: had to been Mike Evans, who's, you know, you know,
• 51:46
  Speaker 12: a borderline Hall of Fame type guy. He's out, But
• 51:50
  Speaker 12: the Buccaneers get Chris Godwin. I think that that's probably
• 51:55
  Speaker 12: uh better for Tampa Bay. When you're talking about Greek Woolan,
• 52:00
  Speaker 12: I think he would have been better matched against the
• 52:02
  Speaker 12: taller Mike Evans, but some matchups I like for Seattle.
• 52:08
  Speaker 12: The right tackle for the Buccaneers is a guy named
• 52:11
  Speaker 12: Charlie Heck. Fourth rounder. He's in his sixth year. His
• 52:16
  Speaker 12: first year, his PFF grade was at fifty eight and
• 52:23
  Speaker 12: a half and sixty is basically middle. Every single year,
• 52:28
  Speaker 12: and I mean every year including this year, there has
• 52:30
  Speaker 12: been a drop and now has a drop from the
• 52:36
  Speaker 12: prior year. Now he's at thirty seven his grade, which
• 52:40
  Speaker 12: is seventy first out of seventy three tackles. On the
• 52:43
  Speaker 12: other side, Tristan Wurfs has been one of the better
• 52:46
  Speaker 12: tackles in football. He is also in his sixth year.
• 52:51
  Speaker 12: He was a thirteenth overall pick. Every year prior to
• 52:54
  Speaker 12: this year his grade has been above eighty. He's always
• 52:58
  Speaker 12: been in the top ten of all tackles in every
• 53:02
  Speaker 12: single year. But he had knee surgery this summer and
• 53:07
  Speaker 12: he started off on the pup list and his his
• 53:12
  Speaker 12: his grade of a sixty four is some twenty points
• 53:16
  Speaker 12: below his average. So I think that when you consider
• 53:19
  Speaker 12: that the tackles on each side, I think there's going
• 53:22
  Speaker 12: to be some opportunity for Seattle's edge guys to make
• 53:25
  Speaker 12: some plays against them.
• 53:26
  Speaker 8: All right, what are you talking about? Riek Willand yeah,
• 53:28
  Speaker 8: they kind of did him dirty. I mean, I know
• 53:30
  Speaker 8: part of the GM's job in the front office job
• 53:33
  Speaker 8: is to generate trade interest in someone they may want
• 53:35
  Speaker 8: to get rid of. But that's someone they raised, drafted,
• 53:38
  Speaker 8: put it as a starter, made a pro bowler, and
• 53:39
  Speaker 8: then they leak out that they want to get him
• 53:41
  Speaker 8: traded and try to generate trade interest. I saw him
• 53:45
  Speaker 8: in the locker room yesterday and he was just kind
• 53:46
  Speaker 8: of shaking his head like, man, that's the dirty pull
• 53:51
  Speaker 8: of the underworkings of business in the NFL.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Playbatter, you know, I get it. I with you, but man,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: he's just got to play better going into this way.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: All right, gentlemen, awesome job by both of you. We
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: appreciate it, and we will talk to you both at
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: some point tomorrow as well. Rock and roll. All right,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell joining us right here for our twelfth Man roundtable.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Of course, we want to follow Greg new So at
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: g Bell Seattle there on Xortheanews Tribune dot com. He'll
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: be back with us tomorrow as well at his normal
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: nine o'clock spot on Fridays for a little x's and
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: oh's breakdown coming up next though, on our program, back
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: to the Mariners. That's right, Greg, go Mariners. I want
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: to grade judge, you know, gauge.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Gauge.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Gauge is the word. I was looking for the confidence level,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: not in the Mariners overall, but we're gonna get more
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: specific with Ashley and Bucky Neck Sports Radio ninety three
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: point three kh A r F M.
• 54:49
  Speaker 10: And I wish I would have scared you on the
• 54:51
  Speaker 10: way to the bathroom.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: Wows for.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: H you're gonna get it now you think we're even,
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: We're not.
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: I mean, you tried to make me think I was
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: locked in the bathroom.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: All I did was hold the door. I was holding
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: the door for you. It's like a gentleman thing.
• 55:07
  Speaker 10: I did think of doing this, yeah.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: But I was holding the door for you.
• 55:11
  Speaker 10: I did think of doing the same thing.
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: And I was like, all he's going to do is
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: turn the knob and it's going to be like no
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: one was holding the other side of the door.
• 55:16
  Speaker 10: I'm not nearly as strong as as it will have
• 55:18
  Speaker 10: no effect.
• 55:21
  Speaker 11: That.
• 55:21
  Speaker 10: So I hid behind the.
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: Corner and with scary fingers in a scary face, thinking
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: that if he turned to look that way, I'd scare him,
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: but then he didn't look, so.
• 55:30
  Speaker 10: Then I went ah, not even really loud. It was
• 55:32
  Speaker 10: at that volume any which.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: No one, by the way, looks that way. You're coming
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: out of the bathroom. There's nothing to the right. There's
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: a door that goes to the old building.
• 55:41
  Speaker 10: See me out of the corner of your you know,
• 55:42
  Speaker 10: I'm scared of it.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so you would. You would have already been
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: on your toes. Not me just walking out, Oh willy nilly,
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: just feeling real good about myself. I just went to
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: the bathroom with no no mishaps, and she yells right
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: behind me, really yell.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: I jumped.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: It was like that, which if I had seen her
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: and she had to scary face with her claws.
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: That would scare me.
• 56:09
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I didn't really want.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: Yell was the only thing that got me, And you
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: got me. Yeah.
• 56:13
  Speaker 10: Now I'm in trouble.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Happy, Calloween happy.
• 56:16
  Speaker 10: It's the spear of the season.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: That's right, I agree, I agree?
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: All right. Well, the Mariners will play on Saturday. Today.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: The Guardians and the Tigers will play game number three
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: of their wildcard series. We will know about three o'clock
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: who are opponent's going to be on Saturday. So third
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: and decisive game today, and it should be a lot
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: of fun to watch, there's no question about that. And
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: then the Mariners will start their preparations. Maybe we start
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: getting the roster decisions at the end of the day,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: at the latest tomorrow, maybe we'll find out the number
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: one starter for the series today. No later than tomorrow.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: I would assume they have one more scrimmage that's going
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: on this evening at five o'clock, and they are selling
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: tickets to that, so if people are interested. Looks like
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: those that went yesterday had a good time with it.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: And so, yes, Ashley, I know you said this is
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: going to be the longest week ever. Here we sit
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: with one hour to go on our Thursday show.
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it feels like it's been three weeks since the
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: Mariner's last place.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: You looked at me, Yeah, dropped your head.
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sorry, but no, it feels like a very
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: long time since the Mariners last played baseball, and the
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: anticipation continues to grow every day. I'm very excited, I'm
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: very eager. I'm somewhat nervous, all of the emotions.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm not going to We're not going
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: to run the nervous game.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: You know what we're gonna do.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: We're gonna judge your confidence. I like it going into
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: the weekend series. So let's get it started. Let's talk
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: about our offense. Bucky scale from one to ten. What's
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: your confidence level that the offense will come through this postseason?
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: An eight? Pretty high? Yeah, I mean I don't if we've.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Gone into the postseason. We got again in the postseason
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: last year, but number would have been two.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it wouldn't have been good.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it would have been It would have been like
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: I literally am just hoping for one guy to hit
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: a bomb, hit a three run homer, Yes, exactly. And
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: yet now it's not even close to that. And that's
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: part of the reason why I don't necessarily have much
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: concern about rust. And that doesn't mean they couldn't go
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: out there and scuffle. I just don't think it's going
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: to because of rust. I think I think this team,
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: when you go basically one through nine, has some grinders
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: in there.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: They have some danger. I mean that there's crazy.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: You might have a guy hitting fifth with fifty homers
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: almost I mean you get I mean the idea of
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: what this team has as far as the potential, I mean,
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: I don't. There's not a lot of teams out there that.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: I just say, oh, I would first sure trade my
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: team for that team as far as the offense goes,
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: And yet we got to see him do it. They
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: got to go out and do it. It's but hopefully
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: they don't put a whole bunch of undue, unnecessary pressure
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: on themselves individually and just go out there and try
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: to grind out AB's I.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: Got an eight too, That's what I wrote all mine
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: down before, and I got an eight as well. I
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: think the depth and the balance of this offense is outstanding.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: It's not just outstanding by Mariners standards in the last
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: few years and the Depoto era. Offensively, I think it's
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: just outstanding. I think it measures up against just about
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: anybody's in the league. You know, I'm a little worried
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: about versus lefties, but believe it or not, the splits
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: aren't as outrageous as what you might think. I think
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: we can play small ball if we need to with
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: this group. I think that we can steal bases. I
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: think we can play a home run war with anybody
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: in the American League. Maybe not the Yankees at Yankee
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Stadium because they're kind of built for that stadium. But yeah,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to get eliminated from the
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: playoffs because of our offense.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I would say if we were judging it
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: just on potential, I'd give it a ten. But four
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: decades of being a Mariners fan does make me, you know,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: I have I keep my reservations just a little bit.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: So then that gives me like a six and a
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: half or seven because of my nerves, so averaging out
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: to yeah, about an eight, just that I think they
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: can get the job done. But I step into all
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: of it with a little bit of hesitation, just because
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: of so many years of well even this year.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: I mean even then recently than the month of September,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: they went a long stretching like what is happening?
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 10: Very good point, why are we hitting?
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: What is happening here? So that thing is the thing
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: that keeps you from putting it to a ten. Yeah,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: maybe a go nine, but you can't go because this
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: team can move weird. They're like Sybil, they got like
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: six different person To be honest, I don't know for sure.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: If you could put an offense out there, I mean
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: that I would just think is ten unless it's like
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: the All Star team, right, I.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Think maybe the Dodgers.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: I think I don't feel like it's a ten.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: I mean I feel like it's yeah, show Hey does
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: what show Hay does, and Mooki does what he does,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: and Freddy does what he does. You're like, and ta
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: Oscar's chipping in. Then you're like, yeah, we're gonna score
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: four or five plus runs a game. But you can't
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: guarantee it's gonna happens. Matter of fact, they run into
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: our pitching staff off, our pitching staff's on, they ain't
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: gonna be a ten.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: All right, Well let's talk about our pitching staff starting
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: pitching scale from one to ten. Actually, how confident are
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: you that they're gonna come through?
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 10: Man, no, this is again.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go starting pitching only I've got to go
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: with us seven seven, Yeah, which I know seems a
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: little low, but and I really okay, seems very low.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: But it's just again, it's those reservations that yeah, that's fair.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: It's those reservations that I I can't get, that I
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: can't get past.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 10: It's the it's that that's that.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: Feeling of what what's going to go wrong that you know,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: I think is in the back of a lot of
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: Mariners fans minds. Now, I'm not letting it overtake that
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: my my confidence.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 10: You know, I'm giving them a seven.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: It's on the higher end of five of the ten
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: or zero to ten scale. But I just worry about
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: those little blow ups that we have seen from each
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: one of these guys this season.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 10: It's not just one person that's had those little blow ups.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: I was gonna go nine, but because of the Wu,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna knock it down to half a point. So
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go eight and a half.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: I am.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty I'm very confident with this group. And I
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: know they've had some injuries this year, and I know
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: they have had their scuffles, but they are all kind
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: of on a roll right now. I mean, Bucky's repeatedly
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: pointed out the Castillo success in his last four starts,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: and even though they've he's been better in his last
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: four starts than everybody else in the rotation. Logan Gilbert's
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: got a like a two to two er this month,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: and Brian Wu's got a two point four ra over
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: his last seven starts, and George seems to have fixed
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: things right now. And I think they all have the
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: right kind of motor for this occasion, Like who's a
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: tenacious competitor? Logan as goofy as he is is a
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: tenacious competitor. Castile might be just that personality that just
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: like I'm I'm not gonna get worked up.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: Maybe you're gonna get worked up, but I'm not gonna
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: get worked up.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: That cool customer. I mean, it's a different personality. But
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: and then George, uh yeah, sometimes he can't get his
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: own he gets in his own way sometimes, but I
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: have a feeling he's going to rise to the occasion.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: I feel really confident about this group and I think
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: that the only reason not a ten is because I
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: don't think we have a scooble type that I feel like,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: if we're faced to Trek Schouble, we're going to get
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: two great efforts throwing us. I don't know we have
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: that guy. But in terms of our depth, every single
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: game that we pitch, we're gonna have a very good starter, too,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: great starter on the mound. Nobody else can say that.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you just gotta go out there and think, Okay,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: when when we put this guy's name down and he
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: goes out to the rubb or how good do you
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: feel about his chances of giving you a chance to win?
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: And there's I don't think there's another organization that feels
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: as good, regardless of what game, regardless where you're playing,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: as the as the Mariners. You I'll go nine, But
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: that's because I'd be hard pressed for me to give
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: a ten to anything. I just don't A ten is
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: a perfect score, right, I don't. I just have a
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: hard time thinking. I mean, because there's these guys aren't perfect,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: they're still human. And the idea that you're gonna go
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: out there and execute you know, one of your pitches. No,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: but if you make a mistake to one guy, you
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: probably get away with that. You make a mistake to
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: somebody else and maybe won't. Next thing, you know, you're
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: walking out of the game giving up three and five innings,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: and you're you're on the comeback trail, You're you're you're
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: playing a different type of ballgame. So but I feel good.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: I feel good about good. I feel good about whether
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: it's logan, I wouldn't be surprised if it is Logan
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: first and Castillo second, and then wu coming back for
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: your first game on the road.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, I feel good about where we're at.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: I want you to think about something. The Boston Red
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: Sox and New York Yankees are playing a game with
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: their seasons on the line side, and they are starting
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: Connolly early who uh huh? And Cam Schlittler, And the
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: only reason you know him is because we've faced him
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: and Angie was scared to pronounce his name.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 10: That's the only reason I know him.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: Correct, and so talented, no doubt about it. But that's
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: like us getting to Game three of our playoff and
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: starting Logan Evans. Yeah, I mean they're more. They throw
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: a harder fastball, But I'm just from those guys were
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: not part of the plan when the season began. They
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: have been forced into the plan because of injuries or ineffectiveness.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: We've got all five of our guy. Bryce Miller's not
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: gonna make a postseason rotation for goodness sake. So that's
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: how well equipped we are. And it's a lot of
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: credit to the Mariners, not just they're developing a pitching talent,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: but also the way that they keep these guys healthy,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: because almost every other starting rotation is beleaguered at this
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: point in the year, and ours feels like it's its
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: strongest it's been all season long. All right, let's go
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: a bullpen. How confident are you with the bullpen?
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: I'll get this start with it.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go seven. I like to make it a
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: little bit higher, but I think that is a notch
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: up from where I was maybe a month ago with
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: this group. But keep in mind with the rest, and
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: it really does help. I mean, we got everybody available
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday, nobody's not available, and Munnos is available
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: for more than three outs. I mean, you saw it
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: with Chapman. He hadn't thrown a four out save all
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: year long. But in Game number one of the playoffs,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: what did Boston do? They went to Chapman in the
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: eighth inning, So we also had that at our disposal.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: We're gonna have Bryce Miller back there. So yeah, I
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: feel pretty good that we're gonna confident that we're gonna
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: get six innings most playoff games out of our starters.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: Then you can now you can combine forces, Bucky, you
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: can go a Ferguson and Bizardo to get you through
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: the seventh, and a brash and aspire to get you
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: through the eighth, and Munjos if you need him, can
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: even come into the eighth and get it out. So
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: I think it's really stacked up well for this group,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: and so I think seven is a solid number for them.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: I think we've had better bullpens at this time of
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: the year the last few years. But I think that
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: this won't be a reason why.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: We lose the postseason.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean if I feel like, if you
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: do you get bounced in this round, I think that's
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: where I think it would come from, to be honest.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: And the only reason I say that's if if you
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: need to get through more than just two Indians, and
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: you're right, you can use Munnos for more if you want.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: But if you're thinking about this is a month long
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: postseason that you're trying to go on, you're not saving
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: them early because every single win is important. But if
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: you're thinking about, Okay, no, this works out matchup wise,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: we can go Bizarro I think is probably that dude,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: or Gabe is probably that guy. If you go that
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: route and it's one of their off nights, then you know,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: I think this offense can pick up the bullpen. I'm
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: gonna go probably a seven. I maybe would lean more
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: towards even like a six and a half, but that's
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: because I feel real strong about a couple guys and
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: then the other guys that I know we're going to
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: need to rely on at some point in time through
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: at the course of this series and the rest of
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: the postseason. I just am like, I feel great about
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: bizarre Huh, they've never been here, but yeah, I feel
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: great about the way Barzardo has pitched all year, and
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: yet I still don't. I feel the same as I
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: do about Carlos Vargas, who was unbelievable for the first
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: half of the season, first two thirds, and then he
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: scuffled a little bit as of late. I feel kind
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: of like Bizarro could be that guy too, and I
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: just don't want that to rear its ugly head in
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: the playoffs.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: I'm going to go seven and a half, and that
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: is because I do feel like the rest is going
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: to be so important for them, and I think they
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 5: were overused quite a bit this year because the starters
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 5: weren't going deep enough into games, and that screwed us
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: over for the next game. In the next game when
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: and they were going back to back days and I
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: just think they they more than anyone, could really use
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: that rest, and I think it's going to be most
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: beneficial to them, and I would go higher, but they've
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 5: had those blow ups too, so there is always that
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: nervous factor.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 10: But I think the seven and a half, I love that.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: Dan because I think Dan has gotten better at managing
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: now that we're not talking about you got you got
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: to play for one hundred and sixty two. When he
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: got to the point where he was just managing like, no,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: we got to play to win this game, I think
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: he really started to click. Yeah. Uh. And now you're
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: getting into the postseason and that's completely different animal. And
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: so let's just roll that. So I think that you're
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: going to see him, you know, I think it's going
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: to be slightly different, but I think it's going to
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: fall right into what he does best, frankly and trying
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: to figure out the matchups here. So let's get the
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: manager at your confidence level with Dan Wilson heading into
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: the playoff.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean he's gonna be going against who do
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: you got hinch? And who's the hinter or vote or vote.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: I mean he's got to ye pretty much just as
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: much experience as vote. I mean, right there close he's been.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: He's older and voter is obviously.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: And I would say vote is old enough to vote?
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, he is? He really?
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 10: Yeah, just barely.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: That's good. It'd be amazing if he was the manager
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: of a big league team.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: It's happened before Minnesota Twins.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, eleven year old.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: I think Angels in the Outfield or something like that.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 10: I don't even know what that movie is you're talking about.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: Bud, I don't even know what you're talking about. I
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: feel good. I mean, I think that he has his
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: pulse on the team. And I think that we've heard
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: guys talk about the previous manager and I like service,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: but that he at times looked he felt nervous.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: He's like pacing.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: And if you all of a sudden feel like you're
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: the captain of the ship is nervous, well, then that's
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: going to permeate throughout the rest of the team. I
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: don't think Dan has that. It's not like he doesn't
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: feel what's going on. I just don't think he stresses
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: out about it. He just is more in the kind
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: of optimistic I believe in you guys. I believe you
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: can do it. Keep going, keep fighting, let's see what happens.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: And so, I mean, I think I don't think he's
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: gonna make a bunch of horrific decisions. There's a lot
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: that rides on every single pitch and every single decision.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: But I think i'd give him an eight eight. What
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: about you?
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 5: Actually, uh, yeah, I'm probably gonna go seven and a half,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: seven and three quarters. I want to go to an eight,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: but yeah, there have been some questionable things, and then
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 5: the lack of experience is what holds me back from
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: going to an eight.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go lower, I'm gonna go I'm gonna
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go six. And that's given him the benefit
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: of the doubt. I think he I'm a little worried
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: about this because I think the game was a little
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: too fast for him at the beginning of the year,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: and now the decisions they just come at a it's playoffs,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: they just come at a more rapid pace.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: So I'm a little worried about it.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: To be honest, that's probably the thing that I'm worried
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: most about. We don't have time to go around the
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: horn with this. But I also I think mentality is
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: also an important thing, and I just love the mentality
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: of this team. I get it at a really high
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: score as well. I have watched the Mariners teams that
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: I felt have shut down at times. I have watched
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: this team earlier in the season where I felt like, guys,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: are you not focused? Is what is happening here? And
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: I suppose that's very difficult to do over one hundred
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: and sixty two games. But since the josh Naale and
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: Gino Swarez additions, man, I think that those two leaders
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: for providing the suite and the salt that this team needs,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: and the veteran leadership and the grit when you need it,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: and the patche on the back and the smile when
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: you need it, They've really rounded out this group. I
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: don't think mentality is going to be an issue. I
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: think they are really well constructed.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: In this area.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: And I know Jerry Depoto doesn't value clubhouse and leadership
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: all that much. It's been a criticism of him in
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: the past. I do, and I think that this group
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: is really great right now.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 10: Yeah, i'd ring them that the highest the mentality all.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: Right, coming up, sompting, Mike Sando's going to join us.
• 1:12:37
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• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: Here's Chuck and but oh so much to talk about.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: It's been two weeks since we've chatted with our NFL insider,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: Mike Sando, So let's get caught up high Mike.
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  Speaker 13: Good morning, how are you?
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: How are you? How's the fan? How's everything? We haven't
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: talked in two weeks? Everything good, Everything's good. Everything's good,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 13: Motor through another season and having a lot of fun
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 13: doing it.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: All right, let's start with a Thursday night football game.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: I usually save that toward the end, but it's a
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: division matchup, our division here in Seattle, and it's pretty
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: fascinating on its face. What do you think of forty
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: nine ers Rams tonight?
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 13: It'll probably end up being some kind of a slugfest.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 13: They've played some ugly games, but you would sure think
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 13: the Rams have the big advantage with the health. I mean,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 13: the forty nine ers are really you know, they've not
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 13: only lost nick Bosa, but they got their quarterbacks out
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 13: and George Kittle's out, and I don't know if Christian
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 13: McCaffrey's the same player.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: Shoot.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 13: The more I talk, the more the X are going
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 13: to be upset. They lost that first game to them.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 13: But you gotta like the Rams, don't you.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: I do, and I don't. I mean eight.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: It's going from one and a half to eight and
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: a half points, which seems kind of crazy to me.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones are not that's it. I kind of like
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: the not only to win the game, but to kind
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: of dominate this game tonight. I just think that there's
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: a discrepancy. I heard Greg Kosel breaking down the forty
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: nine Ers running game just yesterday, and he's like, they
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: can't run the football. A team with Christian McCaffrey and
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan and they can't run the football this year.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, completely, I agree with you. It's concerning now.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 13: Like I said, sometimes these games turn out to be
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 13: ugly dog fights anyway. And you know, so the eight
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 13: and a half would scare me a little bit just
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 13: because it wouldn't shock me at all if it was,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 13: you know, if it somehow ended up being a twenty
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 13: to fourteen game or something right, and sometimes the game
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 13: just maybe the Rams just do enough to win the
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 13: game right, could be that, but on paper, there's no way.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 13: On paper, eight and a half seems fine, you know.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean when you're looking at this, I mean, obviously,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: by talking about the Thursday night game, it sounds like
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: leaning in the direction of the Rams if it's not
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: or anything, just even more than just the health at
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: this point and the lack of run game out of
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: San Francisco. But when you usual look at the division
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: right now and measuring Seattle up against everybody, I mean,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: where do you kind of feel like they sit, even
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: though they're sitting at three in one just like the
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: other two.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: I think I just.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 13: Slot them in right behind the Rams until they beat them. Now,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 13: they didn't beat the forty nine ers eater, but I'm sorry,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 13: I think they would beat him again. I think they
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 13: would have beat him the next week. You know, they
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 13: probably should have beaten them, you know, with you and
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 13: I think, just given the state of the teams. So
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 13: but I think there's a burden of proof on Seattle
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 13: to beat the Rams, and I need to see that,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 13: and once I do, then we can go that way.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: I'm a thousand percent with you on that. Mike Sander
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: is with us, our NFL insider from the Athletic You
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: can of course follow him at Sando NFL and of
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: course you all are. What about Seahawks Buccaneers. This shaping
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: up to be one of the best matchups this weekend.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 13: The Bucks are a super injured team too, an unbelievable
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 13: injury list for them. So it's a game that the
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 13: you know, the Seahawks should win at home, but the
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 13: Bucks are frisky. Baker Mayfield's frisky. I mean, he's a game.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 13: He's gonna come in there and he's gonna lay it
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 13: on the line. He may give you two passes you
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 13: can intercept, but he may throw you know, three, three
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 13: touchdowns too. I just think he's a gamer. I like,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 13: I like what he's brought to their team. I do
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 13: think they're super banged up and it's hard to come
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 13: across the country. So it's again, the Seahawks kind of
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 13: like that game against the Ferdinators. They should be disappointed
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 13: if they lose it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, another guy's frisk here is looking fairly frisky. Is
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  Speaker 3: our our own ginger Sam Sam Darnold is playing pretty
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  Speaker 3: darn well at this point.
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  Speaker 2: I anybody I have to take advantage of anybody that's
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  Speaker 2: a Redhead that does the good thing.
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  Speaker 3: So, I mean, how are you feelings about rare well
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  Speaker 3: that they do good things or that.
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  Speaker 2: Were just rare both.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how to explained it.
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  Speaker 2: It was unnecessary.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So, I mean, he just he's playing well at
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  Speaker 3: this point. I think there's still his room for growth
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  Speaker 3: with this Seahawks offense, but he's you got to be
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  Speaker 3: happy with what you're seeing on him so far.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, extremely, And I'll give you any I've heard a
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  Speaker 13: column today about, you know, the Vikings difficult decision quarterback
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  Speaker 13: that they had to make and how it's you know,
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  Speaker 13: the part of the component of was that Donald's looking
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  Speaker 13: so good. And so I had last season when Donald
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  Speaker 13: was doing well with the Vikings, I had gotten together
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  Speaker 13: with a coach and we watched the video of Donald
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  Speaker 13: and he wasn't overly impressed. I mean, yes, they were
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 13: doing well, but there were Donald was just okay, just fine,
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  Speaker 13: he was just mid. And we went and watched Donald
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  Speaker 13: with Seattle this year and the coach was I couldn't
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  Speaker 13: believe it. He's like, man, this guy's on another level.
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  Speaker 13: He was like, this is kind of Tier one quarterbacking,
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  Speaker 13: just the way he's the way he's placing the football
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  Speaker 13: so intelligently. And you notice that in against some of
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 13: the zones where sometimes that the ball might even look
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 13: like it's behind the receiver, but he's really turning the
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 13: receiver away from an on rushing defender. Right, that's what
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 13: he's really doing. It's it's kind of advanced quarterbacking when
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 13: you're placing the ball in specific spots to either lead
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 13: your receiver for extra yards or maybe in a deep ball,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 13: you don't stretch him out as much because you're trying
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 13: to increase the chances that he catches it, so you
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  Speaker 13: give him a chance instead of making them sprint and
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 13: die for it. Right, the little nuanced things like that,
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  Speaker 13: I think we could see him against pressure too, like
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 13: that Pittsburgh game where he's just getting got a guy
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 13: in his lap, the guard gets thrown in the air
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  Speaker 13: and he just sort of feathers it out there leading
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 13: his receiver for a touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 13: There's just a lot of really good signs from him that.
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  Speaker 1: Looks real.
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  Speaker 2: It looks great.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you think Minnesota looks foolish. I mean,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: how inep does Carolina look based off of this Mayfield
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: the Darnald matchup. I mean, I mean that organization just
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: cannot get it together. And it's like they're back to
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: square one. Bryce Young looks terrible again and Andy Dalton
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: looks better again. And yet are you gonna do are
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: you gonna do the same thing again this year? But
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: you know, to try to fix the Carolina Panthers, I mean,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: they just they just can't fix it.
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  Speaker 13: It is, it is difficult. I don't know what they're
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 13: I don't know that's their problem, right, They got to
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 13: figure that out. But it is amazing that these two
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 13: guys were both there, and who knows, maybe at that
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 13: point those guys weren't as ready as they are now.
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  Speaker 13: You know, I think since then, Sam Darnald got a
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 13: year with Kyle Shanahan and you also get a year
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 13: removed from expectations.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 13: I don't know how that always affects everybody, but I
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  Speaker 13: think there's something to that. I think for a Donald
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 13: or even a Daniel Jones, that New York, New Jersey
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 13: market thing where you're the first round pick, I think
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 13: there's a wait to that and then beyond that didn't
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 13: have the teams around them to support it. So I
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 13: think with Donald last year in Minnesota and this year
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 13: was Sale, they've got good defense, you know. I think
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  Speaker 13: that that takes something off of you a little bit.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 13: And I think when you go in and replace Tom
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 13: Brady with no expectations in Tampa, everything you do is
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  Speaker 13: kind of a bonus, right, So I think some of
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 13: that framing can help too, just psychologically.
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  Speaker 3: Anything you're I mean, how concerned are you about the
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: Ravens at this point in time?
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm very concerned because I think when you have
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 13: that many serious injuries, like I don't buy into the oh,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 13: Lamar can't do it in a big game thing. I
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 13: don't think that's their problem. I mean, they're five highest
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 13: paid players by average salary are out okay, So when
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 13: you have that, they're basically got about one hundred and
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 13: thirty five million dollars of annual salary that's being replaced
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 13: this week by ten million dollars of annual salary. So
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 13: you can't overcome that. At a certain point, you just
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 13: can't do it.
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  Speaker 1: So that's my problem.
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  Speaker 13: My fear for them is can they get healthy enough
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 13: quickly enough on the defensive side of the ball, let
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 13: alone Lamar Jackson with the hamstring which could linger. And
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 13: he's an elite athlete who really compeach you with his legs.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 13: Is that going to be gone from him?
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  Speaker 2: A little bit?
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  Speaker 13: Sixty percent? Lamar may not be enough, Lamar.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: I need more Lamar.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 13: Yeah, I get to gun it out against Josh Allen.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 13: And now if the Chiefs are a little bit healthier
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 13: and are better on offense, you know that's gonna be tough.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: Is Cleveland Meghan the right choice now to go to
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: Gabriel or does it even matter? Yeah?
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  Speaker 13: I totally think you can't. Just if you've got a
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 13: bad team, you can't play with the forty year old quarterback, right,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 13: I mean, you just can't do it. So I've really
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 13: they've bothered me the last couple of years because they
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 13: just stuck with Deshaun Watson because they had so much
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 13: money in them, and it was like everyone could see
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 13: it's not working. So hey, they tried a few games.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 13: If it had been really hitting with Flacco and they
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 13: looked like, hey, you know what, they're gonna win it
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 13: down AFC North this year. Then you could stick with Flacco.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 13: But it doesn't look like that. So you drafted these
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 13: two hitter guys. Let's let let's let Gabriel have some
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 13: games and you know, maybe the coaching staff likes him
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 13: that I got the feeling in the draft the coaching
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 13: staff probably liked him, and then the organization sort of
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 13: made him take shot or later.
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  Speaker 1: That's just what it felt like to me. You know,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: people here on the show that it's NFL insider Mike
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: Sando who made it big in the football world. They're
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: probably thinking, well, in order to cover the entire National
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: Football League, he probably lives in a posh, floating bubble
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: above Middle America. It's probably what they think that seems reasonable,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: But you actually live right down the streets. So are
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: you fired up for some Mariners baseball this weekend? I
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: love it now here.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 13: The problem I've had is that through their root sports
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 13: ri ip thing, I can't I couldn't get them on
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 13: YouTube TV.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: That's correct, right, you don't have to worry about that.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be National Net.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 13: So now I get to watch them.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 13: Oh, what I'm saying is I haven't had the ability
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 13: to you know, I've had NBA I've had.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: Such a football guy, you'd find a way if you cared, Mike.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 13: That's true, but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna work
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 13: for it that hard.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 8: In my line of work.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 13: I have to catch them when I can. I love it.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 13: I love to go to a game. But now I'm
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 13: going to actually turn it on. I'm totally gonna watch.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 13: I love it. I've missed, you know, obviously missed the Sonics,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 13: and you know we've missed the Mariners being good.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: So let's take it you would dig a twenty foot
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: trench to watch the Rams and forty nine ers today.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: That's true. That's true, very much true. I would.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I do.
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  Speaker 13: I can't say I like baseball as much, but I
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 13: do love all right. Baseball to me is like golf.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 13: Like if I'm playing golf, it means I have time.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 13: If I'm watching baseball, it means I have time. And
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 13: I love that.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: You make some time this week, and you make some
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: absolutely all right, Thank you, Mike. We'll talk to you
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  Speaker 1: next week. Thank you, Mike Sando joining us here thanks
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