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  Renewable mobility. The platform program for renewable fuels very good afternoon. I believe
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  that after this series of programmes, there is no one who is not clear
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  that renewable fuels are a real and present alternative to help the process of decarbonizing
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  the country' s economy, and that some sectors have no alternative to continue
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  operating within that road map through Brussels. In order to reduce emissions, air,
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  land and sea transport require large quantities of fuel to be able to operate
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  and, in addition, demonstrate that they have a significant involvement with sustainability and
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  therefore also introduce new technologies in order to be zero in missions. It is
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  true that for technology and for its definitive impulse this technology is necessary a determined
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  commitment by the different public administrations so that, at least they do not hinder
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  its development that can even penalize its generalization. A program as always thanks to
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  the platform for renewable fuels and renewable immobility. The latest news, Cepa has
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  just closed with the European Investment Bank, the BE Y a loan of two
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  hundred eighty- five million euros to finance the construction of the second generation biofuel
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  plant on the radium in Palos de la Frontera, the largest in southern Europe.
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  Of these characteristics will produce sustainable aviation fuel, SAF Y is the renewable
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  HBO from organic waste such as used cooking oils or agricultural waste. The Financial
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  Director and Strategy of the EMT of the Municipal Transport Company of Madrid, has
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  emphasized the importance to be played in the sustainability of the use of renewable fuels,
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  such as biogas or biomethane, a series of fuels index that in other
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  Community countries, like Italy, already have a great protagonist. And according to
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  Mackenzie' s latest report, renewable fuels are a synthetic alternative to fossils and
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  can decarbonize sectors that are difficult to electrify without needing to pre- save long
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  - life equipment. This means that they offer a solution to feed critical segments
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  of transport, such as long- haul aircraft ships and heavy commercial vehicles and
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  precisely ships we speak porker. Repsol has carried out the first 100% renewable
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  fuel test for the maritime sector, produced from organic resoldes by the trans-
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  MATI shipping company. They are produced from residues such as used fine cos oil
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  or agorofood residues and give a second life to this type of safe repsol material
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  which are, from the point of view of quality and operation, engines equivalent
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  to conventional ones. The talk of renewable mobility begins and today inés cardinal spokesman
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  of the platform for renewable fuels. Good afternoon. We have a little special
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  show. No yes good afternoon Miguel a very special program, indeed, the
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  last program of the season and and we have asked our listeners to tell us
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  with what doubts they have stayed, not after these twelve weeks in which,
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  as you said, we have done a very extensive review of the topic,
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  because what doubts they have. So the very special program and above with associations
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  of the platform also with us today, because we are going to greet them
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  and as the questions come out, because they are answering it. We have
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  with us Victor García Nebrera, who is the Secretary General of the Spanish group
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  of sellers for less than carbon before and fuels, to ebeccar Victor q such
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  very good hello good. We also have Salvador Guillén with us, who is
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  the director of ALICK. It is a partnership that brings together independent chemical and
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  oil logistics companies. Salvador How very good Hello, good morning, Miguel Sánchez
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  Campos, Secretary of Codega today, Miguel very good, good afternoon. We
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  are also accompanied by José Ramón Freire, President of the Spanish Bioethanol Association of
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  BOE. José Ramón very good Hello, good morning. Pleased to be here
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  and we also have with us the Director General of Ces of the Spanish Confederation
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  Service Stations, Nacho Rabadán, who have done very good. Good one,
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  Miguel Inés, good one, very good one. You have already participated in
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  this space on other occasions. So let' s start with some of the
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  queries that have come to us from our listeners and maybe for I don'
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  t know, for the producers. For example, Andrés asks us from Madrid
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  whether renewable fuels are made from waste, waste or biomass, all or some
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  other type. Who is encouraged to respond to this consultation, to whom we
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  can ask better inés. Well, let' s see some bouquets if you
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  want to answer it. I, well, let' s see there are
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  all a few origins, some raw materials that can give rise to these renewable
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  fuels of quite wide biological origin. On the one hand, we have organic
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  origins, such as purins, landfills, sedar, water purifiers that would give
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  origin to the biogas to udio methane. Then we have the remains of agricultural
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  material in, the celluloses, traces of prunings, traces of harvests, would
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  remain through a fermentation process, will give rise to alcohols to what is known
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  as biethanol and then, then, everything that is cooking oils, used,
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  animal fats that that kind of residue could give rise to the arbiodiesel oils that
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  give origin to biodiesel as fuel that replaces this, for the part, let
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  ' s say biological. There is a non- biological origin that can give
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  birth to other types of fuels known as non- biological fuels. And there
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  are also a number of technological alternatives, as some of the consultations are answered
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  there. They also ask us and this one. I think more to,
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  for example, for Nacho, where and how I can get that fuel if
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  it lasts the same as someone else asks us Felipe from Madrid. And then
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  we can also ask another of the compañeros, precisely like Victor, for example,
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  to see that if it becomes more general it uses in first roar where
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  and how, and I believe Nacho also, how can you know where you
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  can refuel with this fuel. I believe that they are the principal wholesale operators
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  that there are operating in which they are offering this product through their network of
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  spruce stations as own as they are flagged, so they are doing very well
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  the duties and are promoting very well where this type of renewable fuels can be
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  refueled. What is true and we, from CS have had conversations with the
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  different operators and producers that there are and their commitment is that it is available
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  in very short time at all service stations that require it. I don'
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  t know if one of the questions was how or if it was a mistake,
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  but well, I already took advantage and this is like the ant joke
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  and I put the wedge joke and how, because this is the good thing.
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  How it' s exactly the same as conventional fuel. This is one
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  of the issues on which we are defending the promotion of renewable fuels, because
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  in the end, these are products that have hung up on us. He
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  hung up on us, Nacho took advantage of the wedge. To say that
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  we have to remember that we have said in some programs that all the fuel
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  we refuel has at least 11 percent renewable content, that it is important for
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  our listeners to know. And then, effectively, as Nacho was explaining,
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  there are also refueling stations that market already 100 percent renewable fuels, Victor.
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  In case you want to complete some of what Nacho was pointing out, that
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  yes well, also another way of knowing where there is, where there is
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  a station, where there is this type of fuel is on the price page
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  of the geo portal of the Ministry. It also appears when there are ten
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  or ten or there is ten video and it has lived Chanol no and yes
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  good. And then in the stations themselves you carry a station, because we
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  know that the League ninety- five is bitter with a five and the normal
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  gas, because with a month seven. Well, if we have a renewable
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  fuel that carries a higher percentage of vio, then you' ll have another
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  type of label of ten out of ten, and that' s where we
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  ' ll know there' s this kind of fuel. And well, the
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  customer, because it still costs or that there are the companies that do not
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  offer, that are advertising, but still costs, perhaps because of ignorance of
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  the citizen that it can refuel this on the margin, as it said inés,
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  that already answered to eleven percent each time it throws one, all the
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  sorina one and all of today not And Salvador also according to this point a
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  little from the distribution, if it involves much change or a challenge. Good
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  good, because the truth is that since distribution no change is supposed. One
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  of the great advantages of renewable fuels is that they are compatible with existing infrastructures.
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  Not so much storage tanks as soleducts, as the service station network itself
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  remains useful and, in fact, current biofuels are being distributed through these infrastructures.
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  That is why, since this saves huge investments in the absence of renewable
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  fuels. I think they' re asking us about Segovia. Well, if
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  you' re going to lower the price you' d like to use them
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  better here it' s also been on different programs. In the end,
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  renewable fuels are now more expensive to produce because they are technologies and incipient that,
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  well, although they are known and are already moving in practice, as
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  they are still much newer technologies than the manufacture of conventional fuels. But we
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  always say that the more we produce, the more they promote them from regulation,
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  because this scale in production will reduce costs and, therefore, because it
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  will reduce the price of public mental. And very important here is taxation.
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  Let us remember that renewable fuels are currently paying the same tax. These fuels
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  that we said can refuel our 100 percent renewable listeners, pay exactly the same
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  tax as if they were 100 percent fossils. This makes no sense, that
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  is, from taxation much can be done so that listeners like Ana have the
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  incentive to refuel this, this alternative that reduces transport emissions. And also speaking
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  of the distribution, it gives us the opinion of Miguel Taro. Good afternoon,
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  so, as we had done the previous programs, our customers and consumers
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  of our products need to be calm. It is not going to be a
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  total identification, because just as a fossil gasoline or fossil fuel is not identified,
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  it is not going to be said that it is a renewable combus,
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  as an ineligible ronable fuel. It already exists, as you are well ada
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  indicating as eleven percent of the product. That' s it, that'
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  s it, that' s renewable fuel. And what we, what we
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  don' t care about from the platform and let the listeners know is that
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  through the corresponding tax bonus we would have to be respectful as the principle that
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  the non- polluter should not pay. We are paying the first taxes on
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  a polluting product and therefore that would have to be important if we were to
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  return to the tax bonus that had in the two thousand and thirteen saw in
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  the part of the wine that was without the excise duty and without the imposition
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  of energy efficiency and without the cost that it has assumed. For this we
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  are implementing the technologies so that our consumers have a competitive price and product with
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  total reduction. I want two that is totally producer clean and it would be
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  necessary to say without that afterwards it is necessary to change our motorization and our
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  perilists, fishermen, of our customers of airplanes And such will not have to
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  change anything. We have received a couple of consultations, one of them that
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  if Juan Antonio asked us from Seville and has arrived more times, why they
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  are renewable than if they do not emit so two or how it is achieved
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  that they reduce the carbon footprint. Who here addresses the inese question is a
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  man. I think this, José Ramón, is going to explain phenomenal.
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  And if there is something to point out, then I then continue, well,
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  then what are renewable, why now if they emit, do not imitate,
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  because we have already explained sometimes that it involves the whole process. But
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  to make it clear, well, here again we have the two groups,
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  no, the biological and the non- biological ones. Why biologicals are renewable
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  Well, first, because we are taking advantage of something that is a residue
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  and, therefore, that in its time, in its generation, through plants
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  or animals, absorbed, because that sequi two and that is going to decompose
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  and it will emit the cidos into the atmosphere. Well, then, an
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  interesting previous step and aligned with the circular economy is to turn that residue into
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  a converted resource, in this case, into a biofuel, whether it is
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  a crop or an energy crop. Well, then, in the growth of
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  that plant, that plant is absorbing two of that same thing, two that
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  then the fuel emits. Therefore, we enter into circular economy. That is
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  what happened in the old days when the means of transport was a horse an
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  ox the horse, in his mythical breath, was moving towards two, but
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  it was twelve that had previously absorbed the plant that had fed it and had
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  given it that energy. Well, this is something we have to tend as
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  we stop extracting fossil fuels. And then we have the other part, which
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  is non- biological fuels. Its fuels are based on using renewable electricity to
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  produce hydrogen, dissociating water and that hydrogen through various processes, since you turn
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  it into a fuel that can replace gasoline and diesel Well, because they have
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  a non- biological origin, because the origin is in renewable energy and they
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  are also a very important line of work of all the big fuel distribution companies
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  that in the future, because it will surely move our ships and move our
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  planes. And, indeed, I think you have explained it very well,
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  yes, yes, perfect. I mean, I think it' s clear.
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  Everything they emit through the exhaust pipe, as it has previously been absorbed.
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  It is circularity, as José Ramón said, in this case of carbon.
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  They will also ask us more questions that we have addressed. I don
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  ' t know who. Nothing' s gonna answer. They require cars.
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  Everyone can run on these fuels. We have to make some adjustments. We
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  have not explained, but it raises doubts. Let' s see here,
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  let' s see here, Tor Victor Victor, yeah, not good.
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  Really the cars that have been manufactured for already from two thousand five, require
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  practically no modification. It may be some very old model that requires a very
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  small modification, because it realizes that we are currently working with an already important
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  part of Dio and nothing happens. And in other countries it' s working
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  very well. In Fancia, for example, on the eighty- fifth day,
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  because it has that tax burden that was applied to it and it is
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  not having any problems. Revessa having a lot of acceptance. Normally they are
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  absolutely compatible fuels and cars I go ninety- nine percent of cars do not
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  have any problem to be able to use them. Yes, this 100%
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  renewable fuel that we said is already being supplied, because in more than 300
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  filling stations in our country we have also seen in other programs, not that
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  there are many transport companies that have agreements with renewable fuel suppliers to use 100
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  % renewable fuels. And this fuel, this ten hundred percent nomable or this
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  one hundred percent gasoline is absolutely compatible with all these fleets of bus trucks and
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  with and with the cars we all have. Besides, I think I already
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  have a question for Nacho. Another of the advantages it offers, because when
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  we talked about the rural world, we often talk about tractors of agricultural machinery
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  that are not taken into account that they are large, since consumers of fuel
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  by tractor, obviously, because it consumes many liters of fuel a day when
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  it is working and is an option for decarbonization. Also that in use of
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  these fuels, because they also have no more alternatives and, moreover, the
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  capillarity of the stations of service allows them to continue operating without having to make
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  investments that, unfortunately, will often put us in march. So I don
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  ' t have any paint left to add. I' d rather you tell
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  him. Tell him to say it. Indeed, it is. I am
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  committed to making the people who live in the field the protagonist of the energy
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  transition as well. We can' t design an energy transition can. I
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  believe that the administration should not design an energy transition designed only for those who
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  live in cities and who have a number of privileges. Let' s call
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  it, so people who live in the countryside don' t have how to
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  use public transport with a spectacular frequency, like we have in Spain, etcetera,
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  etcetera. There are people who live in the countryside and not only that
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  agricultural machinery, but vehicles that passenger cars, but who are affected by activities
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  or livestock, or so on. And so far we are giving them as
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  a society and we are telling them that they are guilty of much of the
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  evils that afflict us. Well, no. I think the time has come
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  to give them a face, to lend them a hand and to make them
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  protagonists and also to make them responsible and to let them know that it is
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  in their hand to improve the country that we have. And I' m
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  sure because besides, as they tell me, my associates are absolutely willing to
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  collaborate and there are very interesting pilot projects to use this type of fuel and
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  agricultural machinery, etcetera, etcetera. But it is an opportunity that we are
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  missing for the moment. I don' t know or we' re not
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  taking advantage of how we should be a country. I mean, what Nacho
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  Miguel says links up with a question that they ask me sometimes and that I
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  don' t know if my platformers are also sometimes asked. This is a
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  platform against the electric car. No. What Nacho has just said is the
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  basis for how we approach the energy transition on the platform. It is that
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  the alternatives are used in a complementary way according to the needs of each client,
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  of each sector. It' s not the same as Nacho was explaining.
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  Living in a village in rural Spain that live in the center of Madrid.
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  Therefore, it is very important that all users, in order for us
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  to have that fair, efficient and inclusive transition that we have set ourselves as
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  our goal, have an alternative to be able to decarbonize. Yes, I
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  remember Nacho telling us that he knew the people who like him lived in the
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  countryside, but that to go to the city he had his electric car and
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  for the tasks of the field, because he worked with him. Evidently,
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  with him diesel or whatever that was, yes, Miguel, it is that
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  he is missing out and Inés has explained it very well. We' re
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  missing out because we live in this period of scarves. I don' t
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  wear the electric car scarf, I put on the antico scarf is electric and
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  I think that' s where we get lost and today morning takes my kids
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  to camp, which we already know are finished schools, but well they keep
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  going to camp. I take my children to the camp in Beffi and represent
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  the owner of gas liners. I don' t think I' m gonna
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  get any attention for it either. But if this afternoon I have to go
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  anywhere else, then I will take my car, then normal, but if
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  it is a bit of common sense and to do all the complementary ways,
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  what we see does not make too much sense is to exclude a technology of
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  ori by which man. I don' t think it makes much sense,
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  but that does. All technologies are welcome, provided that they contribute to reducing
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  emissions and that we help in a better country than I particularly intend. Yes
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  and I don' t know if you want to talk to anyone if I
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  wasn' t going to ask Salvador a little bit of his opinion now too,
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  José Ramón, to Salvador, because man couldn' t call him older,
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  but already many years working in the sector. Yes, well, I
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  think renewable fuels are really the most efficient and fast way, especially to achieve
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  a remarkable reduction or practically elimination of emissions into the atmosphere. Say two.
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  That is, it is a very useful way also for the user and very
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  easy for the user to contribute to the fight against climate change, simply because,
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  as we have said before, they are compatible with all engines and vehicles
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  and, therefore, they can immediately reduce emissions, without having to acquire another
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  vehicle, that this is fundamental for the user. For many users they do
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  not have the capacity to change their vehicle. In fact, we know that
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  in Spain vehicles are quite wide over twelve years old on average. Well,
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  all these vehicles can immediately lower their emissions by simply putting renewable fuels. So
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  the uncertainty doesn' t help the sales you were going to the Rosa Ramón
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  tip either. Yeah, I didn' t see him on the line anymore.
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  I serve a little on the line that Naxo commented, from a country
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  of scarves. We have one because it seems very much that this is implemented
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  and that the user is consuming it and the reality is that, although it
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  is a product of very easy implementation, because we have the infrastructure and we
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  have the vehicles that, if it had adequate taxation, would be economic for
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  the user, as France has shown, like the eighty- five to half
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  price station of service that gasoline, that helps decarbonization, since circular economy,
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  that you have returned or waste, that helps rural development, the people,
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  the establishment of production industry in the villages, that reduces the import of oil
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  and the import of food, and aid to the co- production of food,
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  that reduces pollution also in the cities. And yet, since it is
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  not being planted, there is no such support for the infrastructure that is needed,
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  for the development of production. It' s not no, there'
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  s no labeling. It is that with a vehicle of gle pedrasli when oil
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  or natural gas, but, however, not that with a vehicle of eighty
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  - five, with eighty- five percent biotanol and, therefore, eighty-
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  five percent renewable fuel. The agricultural cooperatives that would have something to say here,
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  that would have to implement that serious refining, because it is not as
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  aware, not of this, of this, of this possibility, as they
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  are already in France or in the United States. There is no support for
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  innovation, there is no such label or echo, as you mentioned. In
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  short, there are many barriers and a long way to go, although in
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  this programme, we are showing that they already exist, and it is true
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  that they already exist, but there is a lot to be done to increase
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  that demand to the levels of other countries, so it gives a little more
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  than two minutes, one for Victorio, not for Miguel. Yeah, I
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  just wanted to put the. He' s saying" completion" Indeed,
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  no, we are not dealing with the electric car. It will have a
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  gap, but it will not be able to reach all the places nor will
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  it be able to cover all the needs. And there' s a fact
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  that' s very relevant and I think it can clearly demonstrate what renewable fuels
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  can bring. Not for each percent that we increase in renewable fuels is the
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  equivalent of four hundred twenty, twenty- five thousand electric vehicles entering the fleet.
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  Not right now, after all the campaigns and after the years that have
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  been promoted, there are 300, 000 electric vehicles running in Spain. Well,
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  increasing one percent of renewable fuels would be equivalent to putting another four hundred
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  and twenty- five zero to say that it is useful, quick and effective
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  to achieve what we want, which is that there is less pollution, at
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  least emissions. Miguel to conclude, well a hundred, thank you for making
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  me conclude. I would recommend to all our consumer clis and car park owners,
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  transportation silver owners, aircraft fleet owners, fruit owners, instead they are
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  all on our platform, to look at the executive summary report in which we
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  actually justified for the reasons why renewable fuel is the future. But because it
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  is there and it is today and, therefore, that we do not worry
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  about society, neither our customers nor our consumers that ex has renewable fuel with
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  ceo 2 reduction ceo, zero reduction and that, therefore, say we are
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  there to count on them and we want that with a bonus and tax authority,
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  we are there without anything else. That' s what we' re
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  left with: Inés, Victor Salvador, Miguel, José Ramón and Nacho.
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  Thank you until the next one to you. Thanks Capital Radio Madrid. One
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  hundred and three point two. Since I was a kid I always liked to
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  mess with things, ride them, disassemble them, see what they were like
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  inside one day, my mother told me about the new vocational training and their
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  job opportunities. So I decided to pursue my vocation and he has my own
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  company. I can now say that I am pro discover the new vocational training
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  campaign co- financed by the European Union Ministry of Education, Vocational Training and
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  Sports. Community of Madrid there is a place where you can connect with nature
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  and enjoy a healthy and full life. A place with a hundred kilometers of
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  trails to walk and more than a hundred zero, trees of fifty species,
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  twenty reserves of butterflies lagoons. It is called the Green Arch and connects fifteen
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  municipalities of Madrid with the three major regional parks. Green Arc connects you back
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  to nature. Comunidad de Madrid listens every Thursday at 11 pm, in global
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  leaders, to the interviews that Raul Castro brings us from Florida, inspiring Spanish
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  - speaking people who have stood out in their activities beyond our borders and who
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  leave us their teachings and learnings from the most personal point of view, global
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  leaders, with Raúl Castro, in Capital Radio, the economy returns to the
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  balance with renewed presence, the most enjoyable economic meeting and with the best prepared
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  professionals of the Spanish radio, arrives every Thursday to the microphones of the balance
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  at nine o' clock in the night. Here, on Capital Radio,
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  Capital Radio feel the economy you are not the shing Force, Found The Takings
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  of the Road Ster, The connor heat there dos noths, the Thin the
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