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Mystery 101: An Education in Murder (Movie #5) · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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  Speaker 1: This is a Bramble Jam podcast. Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark,
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  Speaker 1: a Hallmark review podcast. I'm Megan and I'm a long
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  Speaker 1: time Hallmark movie fan. I'm Wendy. I'm a former Hallmark hater.
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  Speaker 1: On today's episode, we are discussing Mystery one on one
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  Speaker 1: and Education and Murder, the fifth movie in the Mystery
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  Speaker 1: one to One franchise. We'd love for you to follow
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  Speaker 2: commiserate with others about the lack of new original content
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  Speaker 2: for the month of July.
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  Speaker 1: We are with you.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. I wanted to share a recent message we
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  Speaker 1: received from the Instagram user Bendi's Helm, who is a
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  Speaker 1: well known pala has Dan fair enough, she says, excellent review.
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  Speaker 1: Ladies actually did have the chance to meet her in
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  Speaker 1: person in Kansas City last year. We did excellent review ladies.
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  Speaker 1: I think Dead Talk is the first movie that I
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  Speaker 1: noticed how Travis really values Amy's opinions, as he'll look
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  Speaker 1: to her to make sure she's done investigating a scene
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  Speaker 1: before they move on in particularly when they're checking out
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  Speaker 1: the dead guy's office. Also, did you see Travis fix
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  Speaker 1: the fallen flag in that scene? I did not nice?
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  Speaker 1: Did you see them me? Neither? Anyway, Welcome to the
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  Speaker 1: joy and pain of being a one oh on er.
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  Speaker 1: I will forever believe that loving this series is worth
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  Speaker 1: enduring the cliffhanger. It's just that good.
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  Speaker 2: I'm still feeling a lot of anxiety about the series ending.
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  Speaker 1: But aren't you glad we've seen it? It's so good. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder why we waited so long because there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of Hamemark content. Yeah, it just so happens
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five that Hallmark doesn't really have a
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  Speaker 2: lot of new content.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, we always do our own thing in the summer. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So I'm I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Glad that it's worked out the way it's worked out.
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  Speaker 1: I just it's very.
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  Speaker 2: Funny because and I think we talked about this before,
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  Speaker 2: but last summer when we did Sein Sealed Delivered. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: there were times where that movie or that series was
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  Speaker 2: in question if it was coming back or not.
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  Speaker 1: And while we were.
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  Speaker 2: Like along that ride, like we knew that it was
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  Speaker 2: still going forward, we always had hope that there.
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  Speaker 1: Were new movies coming. And now Mystery one on one,
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  Speaker 1: we know that's pretty much done. I mean, I think
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  Speaker 1: One on one ers hold out help that someday they'll
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  Speaker 1: revive it and they'll come back. But I am here
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  Speaker 1: to say that I don't think that's going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: Not because I don't think it should, and not because
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's worthy. I just I don't think
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  Speaker 1: that's the path.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't hate it if another streamer picked it up.
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  Speaker 3: Oh right, Yeah, imagine this series on my Netflix or
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  Speaker 3: Paramount Plus.
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  Speaker 2: It could be a little more edgy, a little more.
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  Speaker 1: Se I don't hate it.
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  Speaker 2: I would be down for it. I actually have found
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  Speaker 2: myself really enjoying this series, and while doing research for
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  Speaker 2: this one, like looking at the actors and their previous
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  Speaker 2: work history, I'm like, Hmmm, do I need to check
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  Speaker 2: out Garage Hell Mysteries or Matchmaker mysteries, or do I
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  Speaker 2: please let us know Girls Gone Hallmark at gmail dot
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  Speaker 2: com if any of those other mystery series are up
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  Speaker 2: to this level of entertainment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we won't be reviewing them in twenty twenty five now, guys. No, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: this would be for my own personal viewing enjoyments. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: In the meantime, let's hear a synopsis for an Education
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  Speaker 1: and Murder.
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  Speaker 2: A young writer's research prompts the police to revisit a
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  Speaker 2: famous murder case that convicted Amy's colleague at Elmsted. So
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  Speaker 2: Travis and Amy get a second chance at clearing the
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  Speaker 2: professor's name.
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  Speaker 1: Mystery one on one and Education and Murder was directed
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  Speaker 1: by Michael Robinson. Michael currently has ninety one directing credits.
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  Speaker 1: His most recent project for Homework was February's and Unexpected Valentine.
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  Speaker 1: But he's also done Hallmark hits like a Picture of
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  Speaker 1: Her An Unexpected Christmas and it was always you. Do
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  Speaker 1: you see a Tyler Hines theme here? Lots of Tyler movies,
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  Speaker 1: m Michael of Tyler, this tiler of Michael, the just
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  Speaker 1: a good working relationship.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder how that unfolds. This installment of Mystery
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  Speaker 2: one on one was written by John Christian Plumber, Robin
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  Speaker 2: Bernheim and Lee Goldberg.
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  Speaker 1: Jill Wagner, Christopher Palaha, Robin Thomas, Preston Vanderslice. All return
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  Speaker 1: Missing from this installment is Sarah Dugdale and Amanda Wong,
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  Speaker 1: except in one throwaway reference, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Shaking my head. I have lots to say about it.
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  Speaker 2: Dejon Loyola plays our bad guy, Blake Newman. Dejon has
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  Speaker 2: thirty two acting credits and went on to appear in
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  Speaker 2: the Hallmark movie Christmas Class Reunion. He's also appeared in
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  Speaker 2: other projects like Nancy Drew, Once Upon a Time in
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  Speaker 2: Wonderland and The Good Doctor.
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  Speaker 1: Brianno O'Brien plays the aspiring true crime novelist Ela Quincy
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  Speaker 1: with fifty nine acting credits. She's appeared in other Hallmark
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  Speaker 1: franchises like Murder, She Baked, Garage Sale Mysteries, Aurora t Garden,
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  Speaker 1: Matchmaker Mysteries. See what I mean, There's so many mystery franchises. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm curious, genuinely curious. It was recently recommended in our
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  Speaker 1: Facebook group that we cover the series Darrow and Darrow, Right,
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  Speaker 1: But was that even? Is that Hallmark adjacent or is
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  Speaker 1: that Hallmark? I think it's Hallmark, But please email us
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  Speaker 1: girls on Homemark at gmail dot com. We could do
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  Speaker 1: the research ourselves. Someone did email us. They were like,
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  Speaker 1: here's a Google search about a question you asked on
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  Speaker 1: the recent podcast. And I was like, oh, yeah, I know,
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  Speaker 1: I could google.
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  Speaker 3: What Like.
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  Speaker 1: It's called engagement. We're not asking you guys to do
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  Speaker 1: the work.
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  Speaker 2: We just want you to engage with us.
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  Speaker 1: But I appreciated because a lot of times we think
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  Speaker 1: about things and then by the time we're done recording,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't remember.
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  Speaker 2: Just moved on to the eight other projects we have
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  Speaker 2: exactly on David James Lewis plays Dwight Merrill with an
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  Speaker 2: impressive two hundred and seventy two acting credits. He was
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  Speaker 2: our favorite in last year's Jingle Bell Run. He also
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  Speaker 2: appeared in One Calls The Heart Crime, Time free Fall,
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  Speaker 2: as well as several morning show mysteries movies. Peter Bryant
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  Speaker 2: plays retired detective Howard Clawson. Peter has one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: fifty seven acting credits and has appeared in movies like
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  Speaker 2: Last Years, of Reason for the Season, Heart of the Matter,
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  Speaker 2: and Always Amore. Steve Basic plays wrongly accused Mac McKinnon.
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  Speaker 2: Steve is a familiar face, having appeared in at least
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  Speaker 2: ten garage sale mystery movies, as well as the movie
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  Speaker 2: Love Classified.
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  Speaker 1: The reboot of Aurora t.
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  Speaker 2: Garden, and the movie Fourth Down.
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  Speaker 1: And Love Mystery one on one. And Education and Murder
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  Speaker 1: premiered on March twenty ninth, twenty twenty, and I imagine
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  Speaker 1: it was a very welcome respite for the viewers at
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  Speaker 1: that time, two weeks into some rough stuff. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break and come right back
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  Speaker 1: with our first impressions. Hey, Wendy, what was your first
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  Speaker 1: impression of an Education and Murder?
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  Speaker 2: Two brains are better than one because Megan and I
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  Speaker 2: watched this together and we solved it.
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  Speaker 1: My first impression is we solve the murder. We saw
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  Speaker 1: the murder.
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  Speaker 2: And it's funny too, because as we're watching this, we
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  Speaker 2: don't watch a lot of movies together. It just so
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  Speaker 2: happens we are together this weekend and we're like, let's
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  Speaker 2: watch this movie together and record.
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  Speaker 1: And I think we're like joking.
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  Speaker 2: At one point, I was like, I don't even know
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  Speaker 2: who the bad guy could be, and I go, for all,
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  Speaker 2: I know, it's that bookstore guy. And then the clues
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  Speaker 2: started falling into place. Yep, well let's start with what
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  Speaker 2: we liked.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead, I mean, let's start with the obvious. That kiss.
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  Speaker 1: That kiss, it's a bad damn time looks such great
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  Speaker 1: forward motion with Amy and Trafvis send this episode. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: they're not being coy about their feelings, even though they
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  Speaker 1: keep get getting interrupted by Graham. It becomes a running
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  Speaker 1: joke together, just serves to bring them closer, gives them
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  Speaker 1: something to laugh about. And you know, this movie ending
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  Speaker 1: kiss is a little bit bittersweet because, as discussed earlier
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  Speaker 1: in this episode, we do have only two more movies
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  Speaker 1: to go with these two. My guess is next movie
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  Speaker 1: we're going to see them get a good place, happy, flirty,
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  Speaker 1: maybe exploring what comes next, and then Blamo rude cliffhanger
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  Speaker 1: and movie seven. Do you have any theories what this
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  Speaker 1: cliffhanger is? Someone told us, Oh, I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: it is, so I yeah, if they If I did
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  Speaker 1: read the cliffhanger.
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  Speaker 2: I probably don't remember. I just have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: anxious feelings about it.
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  Speaker 1: I agree.
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  Speaker 2: I was so happy we finally got a kiss. I'm
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  Speaker 2: so happy that Amy for it. I'm glad she made
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  Speaker 2: the move. I felt the vibe between them. It's obviously unmistakable.
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  Speaker 2: What's the word unmistakenable? Unmistakable, unmiss there's no in in it. No, no,
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  Speaker 2: you're right, unmistakable. Anyway, their vibe like they're hanging out
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  Speaker 2: off the clock, like he's just like at their house
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  Speaker 2: washing TV. I'm like, yeah, and Graham, this is what's funny,
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  Speaker 2: is like, obviously you're gonna have to bleep this.
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  Speaker 1: Graham's acker here. But Graham is.
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  Speaker 2: Funny to me because I think he's in support of
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  Speaker 2: these two being together. But he's always and I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if he's not realizing.
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  Speaker 1: That he is. Yeah, is he clueless because in the
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  Speaker 1: last movie we saw him intentionally trying to get them
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  Speaker 1: together and trying to get Travis to interrupt this previous relationship. Right,
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  Speaker 1: So I found it shocking when you know, in my
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  Speaker 1: when he shows up and he finds them at dinner,
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  Speaker 1: you think he'd be like, oh, well, you have a
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  Speaker 1: good time, Like he would be like, yeah, don't let
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  Speaker 1: me interrupt, let me join you. Instead like really killing
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  Speaker 1: the vibell.
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  Speaker 2: One thing I really liked about this particular movie is
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  Speaker 2: the Cold Case. You know, we've talked about it in
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  Speaker 2: the past about a murder always happening at the college.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't like a great storytelling through line, you know, when
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  Speaker 2: the murder happens always same location, saying people involved.
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  Speaker 1: Et cetera, et cetera.
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  Speaker 2: So I like that they were dealing with a cold case,
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  Speaker 2: but I also liked that they paired it with a
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  Speaker 2: fresh murderer, like a double mystery.
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  Speaker 1: Like we got like, I mean, there's always a double murder.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I didn't realize that until you said it when
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  Speaker 2: we were watching the movie. I never realized that there
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  Speaker 2: was always like a fresh new murder in these Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: never noticed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a double murder every time. So when we
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  Speaker 1: were watching, I was like, who's gonna get murdered? Yecause
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  Speaker 1: one of the potential suspects away gets murdered. I've never
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  Speaker 1: really noticed that before. Yeah, I think it does a
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  Speaker 1: lot towards taking the burden of the suspension of disbelief
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  Speaker 1: off of the movies by dealing with this cold case,
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  Speaker 1: this past murder that happened in the past. There's actual
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  Speaker 1: technically three murders, I mean in the past and then
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  Speaker 1: once present, but it's almost like a like a serial killer.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I know, speaking of I do find this
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  Speaker 1: movie to have the darkest tone of any of the
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  Speaker 1: mystery one on one movies we've seen. Really, I don't
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  Speaker 1: agree with that interesting that one what that monkey, The
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  Speaker 1: monkey was creepy, That was the creepiest. This one was
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  Speaker 1: the darkest. The murder up top is pretty graphic for
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  Speaker 1: a Hallmark movie. I agree. When she asphyxiates basically on
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  Speaker 1: Strych nine, that's shocking to watch. And when he breaks
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  Speaker 1: into her house and he's right next to her bed,
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was creepy and dark. And I also
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  Speaker 1: think the lurking retired detective added to the dark tone.
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  Speaker 1: It was a little bit sinister. And then finally we
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  Speaker 1: get the cooperation of the cold misty weather throughout this episode,
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  Speaker 1: which it's really nice when they're not having to fight
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  Speaker 1: with sunny days and trying to make it look like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when the sun's blazing outside, it's pretty hard
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  Speaker 1: to be like everything spooky, but they had actual miss
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  Speaker 1: and you can see their breath.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm wondering if this came out in mid March,
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  Speaker 2: do you think they filmed it in January, probably likely.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Vancouver, pretty cold, pretty dang kiled.
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  Speaker 2: I have two more little things that I liked. I
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  Speaker 2: liked that we got Travis's backstory about being served divorce
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  Speaker 2: papers after being on like a long like stakeout shift.
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  Speaker 2: Now is this new information that he was divorced?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? I got the memory of a goldfish these days.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't remember. She must have, no,
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember. We don't remember.
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  Speaker 2: I remember speaking about in the lot. Might've been the
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  Speaker 2: last movie when she was talking about like that Dungeons
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  Speaker 2: and Dragons game. I know that's not what it was called.
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  Speaker 2: But like my point was, Oh, we're starting to learn
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  Speaker 2: more about Amy, And then it made me realize in
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  Speaker 2: this movie, I'm like, we don't know anything about Travis,
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  Speaker 2: Like do we know anything? Like why is he here
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  Speaker 2: in the city?
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  Speaker 1: I don't. We don't know a lot about I will
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  Speaker 1: say that I do think their untold backstories play into
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  Speaker 1: the cliffhanger for real.
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  Speaker 2: Oh gone, that makes it worse. That makes it worse. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I just want to hurry up and get it over
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  Speaker 2: with and just watch them.
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  Speaker 1: I do think that slowly revealing bits of their backstory
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  Speaker 1: gives them a lot of freedom and storytelling as they
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  Speaker 1: are forward because they can always rewrite history as needed,
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  Speaker 1: and so you know, they can create this traumatic divorce
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  Speaker 1: story and they can create they bring these characters in
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  Speaker 1: from their past that my influence future storytelling. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: certain that's intentional. That's really smart. I'm not a writer,
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  Speaker 1: like I don't know. I don't know the formulas. It's
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  Speaker 1: not the formula. I don't know that. What is it?
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  Speaker 1: The strategy? Strategy, you know. I noticed it though, And
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  Speaker 1: hannahs wentson too. She's on her first date with Chad
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  Speaker 1: and he's talking. They're like talking about the details of
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  Speaker 1: their lives, which I guess, I guess it makes sense that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, their interactions are very surface day to day.
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  Speaker 1: They've known each other for a while, but they're not
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  Speaker 1: sitting down just the two of them to talk about
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  Speaker 1: each other. And so I think the same can be
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  Speaker 1: said for Amy and Travis. A lot of their interactions
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  Speaker 1: are based on crime solving and not about getting to
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  Speaker 1: know each Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: My last thing I liked. My last thing that I
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  Speaker 2: liked is even though we have a change of directors
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  Speaker 2: from movie to movie, because since Sie Seals delivered. We
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  Speaker 2: had the same director for a mature in the movies,
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  Speaker 2: but with this series we have had different directors. But
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  Speaker 2: I'll say there's a clear cohesiveness in the series, like
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  Speaker 2: they've done that really well.
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't.
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  Speaker 2: There's never one movie that feels like it doesn't belong
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  Speaker 2: just because the way it was directed, so anyway, I
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  Speaker 2: am it. They've kept it nicely tight in their little
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  Speaker 2: A Grace three one on one universe.
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  Speaker 1: I agree. I have two little likes. I've always loved
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  Speaker 1: the scenery of these movies, but I did find this
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  Speaker 1: one to be especially beautiful. They shot in some really
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  Speaker 1: beautiful neighborhoods that we've been shooting at the college this
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  Speaker 1: entire time, but they had some different angles and some
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  Speaker 1: different shots that I thought were really nice. And Secondly,
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  Speaker 1: you will regularly hear me complain about the deep cast
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  Speaker 1: of characters in Mystery one on One, specifically in terms
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  Speaker 1: of the suspects. However, I did really enjoy the mystery
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  Speaker 1: solving element of this movie. I think it might have
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  Speaker 1: been because we were watching it together and bouncing ideas
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  Speaker 1: off of each other, but we did figure out who
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  Speaker 1: the murder was early on, even though we didn't necessarily
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  Speaker 1: understand his motive. We did seeing those clues that they
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  Speaker 1: were dropping a lot. Yeah, so it was kind of
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  Speaker 1: fun to watch it.
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  Speaker 2: When the reveal is happening, you're like, oh, this is
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  Speaker 2: this is why did it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was kind of fun. I agree. Let's talk wishes.
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  Speaker 2: My first one is Travis Yo, you are a trained
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  Speaker 2: police officer, like, I wanted to see him land a
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  Speaker 2: punch or two onto the bad guy. Obviously, Chris is
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  Speaker 2: a really tall guy in person in like real life.
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  Speaker 2: He had size on the purp here like he could
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  Speaker 2: have easily taken him down.
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  Speaker 1: So I knew you were going to talk about this
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  Speaker 1: fight scene as I bitched about it while I was
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  Speaker 1: watching it. Yeah, and I agree with you. But what
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking while I was watching it is I
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  Speaker 1: wanted one of those cartoon style fights where Travis puts
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  Speaker 1: his palm on Blake's forehead and like holds him at
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  Speaker 1: arm length and Blake is just swinging wildly at him
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  Speaker 1: and at landa punch because Travis's wingspan. I just really
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  Speaker 1: wanted that moment because they do try and pretend like
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  Speaker 1: it's a real fight and then he, you know, attacks
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  Speaker 1: Amy and Travis Poulesa got on him. But you're right,
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  Speaker 1: Travis could have put that guy down easily, instantly, easily. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I have another wish. Go ahead, more Steve Basic, please.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: So what was really funny is the second he comes
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: on screen when he goes Steve Basic. Now I recognize
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: his face. Could not have told you in one million
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: years his name or what else he has been him.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: It's not you, Steve, It's it's me. But I looked
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: up his IMDb. No, we've seen him in Staff. As
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: you mentioned, he works a lot. He has like one
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: hundred and eighty credits, and he's Love classified fourth down
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: in Love. That's the right one. M But I really
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: like him, and I almost feel like we could build
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: an entirely new mystery franchise around him. And we have
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: seen him on Hallmark in a minute, I would like
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: more of him.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Megan was thoroughly surprised how I pulled his name
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: out of the ether.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Well, it's been a couple of years since we've seen
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: him in the movie.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I know. I was just telling her. I'm like, sometimes
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: that just happens. I mean, I can't say the word
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: sure unmistakenly, I can tell you this acer was maya papaya. Okay,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I have I have a couple just two three little wishes.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: The retired detective guy was way too intense for me.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: But now that you said that, like it did lean
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: into the sinister part of the overall theme of the movie.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: But I just was like, why is this guy so
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: upset that Amy's poking around a case that he has solved.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so protective of his legacy that he cares more
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: about being right than he does about the admission of Jess. Well, like,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: where are his ethics?
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Why is he like trying to run her down with
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: his car. I mean, he wasn't trying to run her down,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: but he was, you know, stalking her.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was it was intense. I'm like, I don't
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: understand why you're moving that way, dude. Hmm.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: That just seemed super offen weird to me. Like, honestly,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I thought he was a bad guy from the jump,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: but you're like, it's too obvious it's him. So also,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: no clear, No Holly, I missed my background besties.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I know she does mention Holly at one point in
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: the movie. I don't know if you heard it. I
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: don't think so. She shows up at Graham's house and
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: she was like, Holly's out sick or Polly's is closed
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: early for something, so I had to come here for coffee.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: But Holly is not in any future mystery. When one
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: movies I.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Looked, I it makes Amy's world feel a little lonely
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: when she doesn't have Holly, who seemingly seems like her
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: best friend.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: And then Claire.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: I know she and Amy don't have a relationship, but
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Bud has a relationship with Claire.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: It's not even a mention of her. And she's part
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: of the workforce, the police workforce. I just thought, yes,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I wonder how much COVID played into this, because you know,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: they film in Canada, and I don't know. I don't
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: remember the timeline. It's all such a blur, but I
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: do know that when they went back to work on
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: these projects, Canada required them to quarantine for two weeks
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: in a hotel before they could go to work. And
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: so that's why if you remember Deep Cut Christmas in Evergreen, Oh,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Colin Lawrence, that third movie only appears via zoom, like
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: he's only on FaceTime calls. Because I'm sure he was
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: on it. I think he's on Virgin River, as is
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Sarah Dugdale, and I'm sure that they couldn't cross projects
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: for that reason. And I would assume that that's part
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: of the reason why some of these other characters don't reappear,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: these recurring characters. I mean, Sarah Dugdale does go on
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: to work on Virgin River. I don't know the timeline
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: of that, but my guess is Holly, you know, didn't
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: have the timeline to Quarantine going forward, or maybe she
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: was just doing other things. But I miss our friend too.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: My last little wish was, while I was happy for
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: the kiss, I hated that the movie ended in that moment.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I wish for a little aftermath of it, like they
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: just and credits.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I want to like a snuggle.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: A week and a nod like let's go back to
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: my place. I go, uh huh, spicy inn window. I
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: would be into it.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Interesting, No, sure, love it.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Megan wanted to drink a little cocktail and watch a
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: crisp pal movie last night.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: So my exact words, I said, I want to get
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: a little tipsy and launch a crisp Paalah movie. And
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: we did. Let's talk digit see that, Okay, I have
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: a few, Okay, I have a few.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: One was it was a scene you talked about earlier
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: when Graham comes in and kind of interrupts their dinner
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: when they're sitting at the bar and Travis is touched.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: They're talking intimately, Travis and Amy and he's the scene
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: is so quick, but his hand is on her hand,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: and then when Graham comes up, he pulls it away
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: like they're two teenagers that just got caught alone.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Huh that was so funny. Yeah, I A.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: I can't understand though, why the motivation of Travis for
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: keeping it like.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Professional around Graham?
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: What is the motivation? Is it? Is it that they're
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: not ready to talk about it. Is it that they
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: haven't defined it for themselves so they don't really want
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: to have to discuss it with Graham?
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah?
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Is it like, oh, it's her dad, so I have
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: to like perhaps keep my hands to myself. I have
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: two more, but no, actually just one more? Do you
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: want me to do it? I mean I only have one.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: It's probably the same thing. Okay, go ahead. Well, I
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: don't want to take it. Take it if it is, well,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I can't even take credit for it. You noticed early
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: on that Jill Wagner is very obviously pregnant in this movie,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: and as soon as you noticed, I couldn't unsee it.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: But the advantage of that is she had to wear
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of great oversized ponchos and wraps in this
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: very clearly gloomy, cold, misty, cloudy weather. I thought she
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: looked great.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the weather worked for them, because if it was summer.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know what she would have done.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, they she had like at one point
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: she's hiding behind her podium. At one point she's carrying
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: a big bag. A lot more of that. There's several
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: seated scenes. Yeah, so I think it would have been
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: a lot more of that. There was some IMDb chatter
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: about it. Why would you cast a pregnant woman in
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: a single woman role? Yo, we're five movies in what
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: are we gonna do? Like replace her? In this movie?
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: The role of Ivy is being played by.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Nikki de Loach. Yeah, like, it doesn't it wouldn't work. No,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: it's stupid.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I don't understand IMDb reviewers. Sometimes, let's call a spade
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: a s bathe they hate. Most of them are just misogynists. Okay,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: maybe you're probably right, They're not.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: In here complaining about any of the dudes ever, never, never, ever.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: My my other did you see that?
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Was Travis comes in at one point He's wearing head
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: to toe black and I even yelled at the TV.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, Matrix, like he's straight uploat like
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: floats behind us.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Keanu Reeves. Look, I'm gonna do it.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: I'm into the sexy detective, Like I get it.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: But it was so funny to me. It was so
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: funny to me. Well, hey, did you rate Mystery one
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: on one an Education and Murder?
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: I thought this one was really good. I gave it
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: four stars. I think the last one was better, but
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: this is still a high, high top tier.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I gave it four point two five stars. You know,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: as I was watching, I was like, I got a
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: really dig deep to find things to say about this movie.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I just found it not in a good way, not
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: in a bad way. I just found it really enjoyable
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: to watch, Like I could just sit here and watch.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: There's not like glaring things that I need to talk about.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: It is solid. It was solid. Yeah, thanks for listening
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