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Goku's Biggest Showdown: Episodes 120-122 · Becoming Saiyans-A Dragon Ball re-watch podcast

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SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Becoming Saiyans.
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SPEAKER_02: A Dragon Ball Rewatch podcast.
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SPEAKER_01: And we're back.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm Trun.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm Jizzy.
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SPEAKER_01: And this is Becoming Saiyan's Dragon Ball Rewatch Podcast.
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SPEAKER_01: On today's episode, we watched three episodes.
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SPEAKER_01: Pr-pr-pr-brr.
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SPEAKER_01: Episodes 120, 121, and 122 of Dragon Ball titled Goku Strikes Back.
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SPEAKER_01: The Biggest Crisis and Final Showdown.
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SPEAKER_01: The first of those three episodes aired on July 27, 88, and October 1st, 2003 in America.
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SPEAKER_01: Second one was August 3rd, 1988, and October 2nd, 2003.
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SPEAKER_01: And then the last one was 1988 and or August 10th, 1988, and October 6, 2003.
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SPEAKER_01: Jumping into some differences from the manga and maybe trivia, at least the first episode doesn't have any trivia, says, Jesse, what is the first difference?
0:59
SPEAKER_01: Is it the fingers?
1:00
SPEAKER_01: It is the fingers.
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SPEAKER_01: It's always the fingers.
1:03
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
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SPEAKER_01: And the the second one is the scene of West City being in a total panic while everyone's watching via their plane TV.
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SPEAKER_01: Extra and added in.
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SPEAKER_01: And the manga is Yamcha Bulma and Launcher flying towards King's Castle.
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SPEAKER_01: Um there is another plane being flown by Ulong Puar and Turtle going to pick up Master Roshi and Shatsu's body.
1:22
SPEAKER_01: Because we already went through that, they're all together.
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SPEAKER_01: King Furry being informed of Goku's battle and viewing it, all added.
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SPEAKER_01: In the manga, Piccolo emerges from the rubble and proceeds to jump into the air before shooting at Goku.
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SPEAKER_01: In the anime, Piccolo uses finger beams to attack, only for Goku to easily dodge them before Piccolo jumps.
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SPEAKER_01: One of the beams ends up vaporizing Drum's corpse, something that was never shown to have happened in the manga.
1:52
SPEAKER_01: We just never knew what happened.
2:02
SPEAKER_01: Launch laughing innocently on the way to the battle, with you know, Balma and Yamcha going along with it was added.
2:08
SPEAKER_01: Piano's corpse sinking into the earth as Piccolo powers up is not in the manga.
2:13
SPEAKER_01: What a crazy sentence.
2:16
SPEAKER_01: That's such a crazy sentence.
2:17
SPEAKER_01: It is what happened, but it was just crazy.
2:20
SPEAKER_01: Uh Tiena's more shocked at Goku's survival in the manga as opposed to more ecstatic reaction in the anime.
2:27
SPEAKER_01: Second episode, just differences.
2:29
SPEAKER_01: Um, Jesse.
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SPEAKER_01: What is the difference?
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SPEAKER_02: It's that Piccolo's actually black this episode.
2:37
SPEAKER_01: It's kind of crazy.
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SPEAKER_01: No, it's the finger thing.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's the finger thing.
2:40
SPEAKER_01: Um, the scene of Yamcha Bulma launch, all of that is added.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, with launch trying to give Bulma banana, um, which was kind of funny because, you know, it's bananas.
2:49
SPEAKER_01: And then it's like, here, did somebody say banana?
2:52
SPEAKER_01: Anyways, additional scenes of those at the Kame House and the hospital, hearing all the news is all added.
2:58
SPEAKER_01: Uwong was originally sent to retrieve Roshi and Chiatsu, but this was removed because they found out about it earlier.
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SPEAKER_01: In the anime, King Piccolo throws a brick at Goku, and after the latter blocks it, Piccolo fires a blast at his leg.
3:10
SPEAKER_01: In the manga, he doesn't throw the brick.
3:12
SPEAKER_01: Android 8 protecting Sano from the explosion is exclusive.
3:17
SPEAKER_01: Um, except for that, like, he didn't actually protect Sano.
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SPEAKER_01: He like protected those other kids.
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SPEAKER_01: But um, anyways, they don't show up in this part.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, Aider never shows up, and Sano wasn't didn't sh was only there at the very beginning of all this, and we never saw her again.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: In the manga.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And then the last episode, differences and trivia, Jesse.
3:37
SPEAKER_01: They actually didn't put the finger thing in this one.
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SPEAKER_01: The fingers are finally fixed, ladies and gentlemen.
3:43
SPEAKER_01: He only has four for the entire episode, apparently.
3:46
SPEAKER_01: Um, the scene of Janja Bulma and all of them commenting on the crater is added.
3:51
SPEAKER_01: The f the scene of Yajurobi going back and forth and back and forth is also exclusive.
3:58
SPEAKER_01: Sano's appearance in the hospital and her reaction to the explosion um is never is exclusive to the anime because she never showed up in the manga, apparently.
4:07
SPEAKER_01: Um King Pic when King Piccolo holds up his hands, he is seen with red blood, even though he doesn't have red blood.
4:14
SPEAKER_01: He has like green blood, you know.
4:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
4:16
SPEAKER_01: Um and the scene where Yajorobi uh thinks about what Goku said to him about a free male, his speedometer reaches the uh speed of 88 miles per hour, which they say might be a reference to Back to the Future.
4:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
4:30
SPEAKER_01: Or it's just 88 miles per hour is a fast amount to go.
4:34
SPEAKER_02: It just happened.
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SPEAKER_01: The scene where Yantra tells Bulma it's too dangerous and that he'll proceed alone, uh, launches behind them holding an M202 flash rocket launcher backwards.
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SPEAKER_01: This could be a reference to the movie Commando, where the actress Ray Don Chong does almost the exact same thing.
4:52
SPEAKER_01: No, I haven't seen that movie, but that sounds a lot more like a reference as the shooting the rocket backwards by a ditzy character, because that's what I'm guessing happens in that movie.
5:03
SPEAKER_01: Um, I could see that more.
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SPEAKER_01: This is the last episode until an episode later, where Goku kills someone.
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SPEAKER_01: Although something else and something else and something else, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: Upon seeing Goku alive after the second energy wave, Piccolo states that he's fought all over the universe, yet Goku's the first person strong enough to face him directly.
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SPEAKER_01: This is shown in Dragon Ball Z to be f uh false because of stuff we learn in that.
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SPEAKER_01: Um and then this is only in the English version where he says that in the Japanese version, he just expresses shock that Goku, a mere human, could stand up to his power.
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SPEAKER_01: It's later revealed in the series in all of this stuff about stuff and stuff, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: And it makes no sense that this was able to be ha to have happened because stuff and stuff and stuff from stuff, okay?
5:55
SPEAKER_01: And that's all the trivia and differences.
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SPEAKER_01: So, previously on Dragon Ball, Goku and Piccolo fight.
6:04
SPEAKER_01: And the fight goes on and on, and there's different ebbs and flows at points where it feels like Goku's unstoppable.
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SPEAKER_01: There's points where Piccolo feels like he's unstoppable.
6:14
SPEAKER_01: But throughout it all, we have people watching Dragon Ball happen in front of them.
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SPEAKER_01: Mainly TN and Dog President.
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SPEAKER_01: And Dog King.
6:24
SPEAKER_01: Dog King.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh, and they are all watching in shock as the small child is able to fight off the world's most deadly opponent.
6:32
SPEAKER_01: And in the end, who can be victorious?
6:36
SPEAKER_01: Well, it's none else, none other than Goku.
6:39
SPEAKER_01: And you know who was super helpful?
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SPEAKER_01: Not Bulma and Yamcha and all of them who show up immediately after all the fighting is over just to hear from Tien what happened, and you know.
6:50
SPEAKER_01: Or uh presumably they hear from Tien what happened.
6:53
SPEAKER_01: We haven't we've not gotten that moment yet.
6:55
SPEAKER_02: The main hint that they've gotten was like there was like a repo, like a police report be like, or a news report being like, God, there's a small child and some dude who's really bald.
7:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, really big information, big bald.
7:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
7:07
SPEAKER_02: And then as the as it ends, Goku and Yajirobi drive by the way, was that Goku?
7:12
SPEAKER_01: And the previously part for that is Yaji Robi shows back up, and that's what you missed on Dragon Ball.
7:18
SPEAKER_01: Jesse, go for it.
7:20
SPEAKER_02: These are as good as we thought we were gonna be.
7:23
SPEAKER_02: This is the exact type of episode we've been waiting all finally!
7:27
SPEAKER_01: That's what we've been waiting for.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's the dragon the Dragon Ball animators looking at looking at their drawing tables like their drawing people are like, What?
7:38
SPEAKER_02: What?
7:39
SPEAKER_01: We finally did it.
7:40
SPEAKER_01: We cracked the code.
7:41
SPEAKER_01: We should have the characters in our fighting anime fight each other.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, when there's an end of the world fight coming up.
7:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
7:49
SPEAKER_01: I honestly I know that that's like after last episode we were hyper negative and we were hopeful that these episodes were gonna be good.
7:56
SPEAKER_01: But these episodes really did like live up to the like the what the what we put on them.
8:01
SPEAKER_01: You know, they were able to land about as many of those plates as you could possibly see landing.
8:06
SPEAKER_01: They even brought in like Yajorobi.
8:08
SPEAKER_01: Like Yajorobi got his plate landed.
8:11
SPEAKER_01: He isn't a complete chicken, but he is kind of a chicken.
8:15
SPEAKER_01: But he did finally go through with it begrudgingly, which is kind of like his whole character is begrudgingly, I'm your friend.
8:21
SPEAKER_01: Begrudgingly, I will come and help.
8:23
SPEAKER_01: I don't want help, but I guess I need to be there.
8:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
8:27
SPEAKER_02: What have you done to be Goku?
8:28
SPEAKER_02: I've become a nice person.
8:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
8:32
SPEAKER_01: I hate doing this.
8:33
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, here I am doing it.
8:35
SPEAKER_01: He's just very food motivated.
8:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
8:37
SPEAKER_02: He's more it's he's more food motivated than than Goku is, which is saying something because Goku was also pretty food motivated.
8:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
8:44
SPEAKER_01: And then, um, yeah, these episodes were great.
8:47
SPEAKER_01: You know, there were there were moments occasionally where that I uh we didn't like.
8:51
SPEAKER_01: We pointed it out while we were watching it to each other.
8:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
8:54
SPEAKER_01: But by and large, these were some good episodes.
8:56
SPEAKER_02: One of the main ones you pointed out is like we were both in agreements of like the Yajarobi bit where he drives away, he shows up, then he drives away, and then he drives back, would have been perfect if they stopped after his first drive away drive back.
9:09
SPEAKER_02: But the fact they added a second drive away drive back, it's like, okay, now it's not as well you kind of went a little too far with it.
9:15
SPEAKER_01: You didn't have to do the second one.
9:17
SPEAKER_01: We got the idea of the joke and the gist before you gave us the second one.
9:21
SPEAKER_02: It'd have been I'd do it a perfect bit if it was just once.
9:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
9:24
SPEAKER_01: Where he's like, I don't want to do oh, that's a big, big explosion.
9:28
SPEAKER_01: Maybe I should just leave.
9:30
SPEAKER_01: Hey, wait.
9:31
SPEAKER_01: Goku owes me food.
9:32
SPEAKER_01: I better hope he's alive as he drives towards, you know.
9:36
SPEAKER_01: Um, that would have worked.
9:38
SPEAKER_01: Um, another big moment for me that was kind of a negative, just to get the negatives out of the way before we start floating.
9:44
SPEAKER_02: There's uh very few of them.
9:46
SPEAKER_01: Uh beginning of the second episode where they like the it the first episode could have just ended with is Goku alive or dead?
9:53
SPEAKER_01: Like, tune in next week.
9:54
SPEAKER_01: Like you kind of joked when he when there was a giant hole in the ground.
9:57
SPEAKER_02: And like there was smoke coming out of the room.
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SPEAKER_01: You're like, is Goku gonna be able to survive that?
10:01
SPEAKER_01: Tune in next week.
10:02
SPEAKER_01: But then they like let it keep going and you find out Goku's alive.
10:06
SPEAKER_01: Then you cut to the second episode and they replay that whole bit where it's like But it was like re- I felt I was surprised to see that there wasn't like a change in studio or something.
10:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the second episode did feel a little off comparatively.
10:19
SPEAKER_01: Like from what we had seen.
10:21
SPEAKER_02: It just felt different.
10:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
10:24
SPEAKER_02: And I don't I can't really put my finger on it a hundred percent.
10:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
10:27
SPEAKER_02: But it was like some of the dialogue was completely different, and the way people like the the cadence of some like people's voices were different, it felt.
10:36
SPEAKER_02: As if they were like directed a little differently to sit on what they were saying.
10:40
SPEAKER_02: But then like also, as you pointed out, I was like, then we just go back to Goku, is Goku alive?
10:45
SPEAKER_02: Oh, Goku's alive.
10:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
10:47
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, they that's the part that bothers me is that like the first episode is, or the end of the first episode is he's alive.
10:54
SPEAKER_01: And then the second episode.
10:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then the second episode starts with, I don't know, is he alive?
11:00
SPEAKER_01: Of course he's alive.
11:01
SPEAKER_01: We watched the last episode.
11:03
SPEAKER_02: I killed your friend.
11:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
11:04
SPEAKER_02: Oh, impossible, he's alive.
11:07
SPEAKER_02: It was like, okay.
11:08
SPEAKER_02: A little repetitive, but you know, that's a very small negative.
11:11
SPEAKER_01: Those are the only negatives that I really have.
11:14
SPEAKER_01: Because they I didn't notice other things where they like replayed some animation a couple times, but that's to be expected when you have three episodes of fight that you're gonna occasionally replay a little bit here and there.
11:24
SPEAKER_02: There was a lot of they played it three times.
11:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think I counted no fewer than seven of like hit, boom, boom, boom, hit, boom, boom, boom.
11:34
SPEAKER_02: Or like powering up a hit and they play the power up three times.
11:38
SPEAKER_02: There's multiple of them.
11:39
SPEAKER_02: But you know, uh, when you've got a you know, patch some stats for a bit of a.
11:45
SPEAKER_02: It's understandable.
11:46
SPEAKER_01: It's understandable.
11:47
SPEAKER_01: I'm not holding it against it.
11:48
SPEAKER_01: A lot of times I would, but these episodes are dense.
11:52
SPEAKER_01: I don't feel like we're being being anything's being withheld in these episodes um because of it, you know.
11:59
SPEAKER_02: Because nitpicking nitpicking that is just nitpicking for nitpicking sake.
12:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
12:03
SPEAKER_02: And then what that what does that do?
12:05
SPEAKER_02: It makes us no better than like, what is it, cinema since?
12:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
12:08
SPEAKER_02: It makes us no better than cinema sense.
12:09
SPEAKER_02: Complaining about something that isn't necessarily complainable about.
12:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
12:13
SPEAKER_01: It's like the ma the big one for me, like, is the end of the episode of the first one.
12:18
SPEAKER_01: Uh if you're gonna subvert the expectations on the is he dead or alive, tune in next week.
12:23
SPEAKER_01: If you're gonna subvert that in the first episode, yeah.
12:26
SPEAKER_01: If you're if you're not gonna do that in the first episode, you can't then just try to do it in the second episode.
12:32
SPEAKER_01: Like, if you're gonna let us see that he's alive at the end of the first, you can't end it.
12:37
SPEAKER_01: You can't start the second with is he still alive?
12:39
SPEAKER_01: You know?
12:40
SPEAKER_01: It just that doesn't make any sense to me.
12:43
SPEAKER_01: But otherwise, like, I don't really have a whole lot of negatives about these episodes.
12:48
SPEAKER_01: Um, these were really, really good episodes.
12:50
SPEAKER_02: I it's hard to talk about stuff because it is just fight, but like there was a lot of- Goku starts beating them up, and then Piccolo's like, ah, I'm gonna have to power up and beat you, and then he powers up and beats you, and then Goku's like, I'm gonna beat you still.
13:03
SPEAKER_01: I can still get through this, and so then Goku starts to get through it, but Piccolo's like, oh, but I actually wasn't done powering up, so now I'm gonna power up some more.
13:10
SPEAKER_01: Which, I mean, it's it's Dragon Ball.
13:12
SPEAKER_01: If you don't like that, you don't like Dragon Ball.
13:14
SPEAKER_01: Like it we're about to get to Z.
13:16
SPEAKER_01: We're really close now.
13:17
SPEAKER_01: Like, if you don't like 30th episodes away from Z or something like that.
13:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like it's like just at like 30.
13:23
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, if you don't like that, you don't like Dragon Ball.
13:25
SPEAKER_01: Because in Dragon Ball Z in particular, a lot of the fights start with Goku shows up to fight the bad guy, and Goku was winning because he had just gotten a power up.
13:34
SPEAKER_01: And then the bad guy's like, oh, but I can outpower you, and then powers up, and then Goku's like, well, that's not anything compared to what I can power up to, and powers up, and then the other guy's like, well, you haven't even seen my final form yet.
13:46
SPEAKER_01: Powers up, and Goku's like, you thought that was my final form.
13:50
SPEAKER_01: Powers up.
13:51
SPEAKER_01: Like, that's how we keep the the ebbs and flows of a fight in this going.
13:56
SPEAKER_01: This is the first time we've seen it in Dragon Ball, but it's definitely not gonna be the last time.
14:00
SPEAKER_02: This is literally setting you up, like, be prepared to see this for the rest of the time watching the show.
14:05
SPEAKER_01: And I will eat it up every time.
14:07
SPEAKER_01: It's so funny.
14:08
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
14:08
SPEAKER_01: It it gives you like it kind of lets you break the fight up into acts.
14:13
SPEAKER_01: You know, like act one is the surprise that Goku is as strong as he is.
14:18
SPEAKER_02: The last time you faced me, Shredder, I couldn't do kung fu, but now I can't.
14:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
14:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
14:25
SPEAKER_02: He's like, well, guess what?
14:27
SPEAKER_02: I could also do kung fu.
14:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and he's like, okay, but your kung fu is still not enough to stop me.
14:34
SPEAKER_02: I also know Taekwondo.
14:36
SPEAKER_02: He's like, I also know Taekwondo, but can you shoot lasers out of your eyes?
14:40
SPEAKER_02: That's what I cannot match.
14:41
SPEAKER_02: And then he loses.
14:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
14:43
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, that's that's kind of that, but a little bit more serious.
14:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
14:46
SPEAKER_01: I like it's just part of it.
14:48
SPEAKER_01: It gives you acts.
14:49
SPEAKER_01: Like, act one is Goku shows up on the scene, asserts his dominance.
14:53
SPEAKER_01: Act two is Piccolo realizes, oh, I gotta take this a little more seriously, so I'm gonna get a little bit stronger.
14:59
SPEAKER_01: And act three is, you know, Goku gets his butt kicked until he wins.
15:04
SPEAKER_02: Like it really is, like, act one is setting the villain up to realize, oh, I'm in mortal danger.
15:11
SPEAKER_02: I have to I have to really try the I actually have to try in this fight.
15:14
SPEAKER_02: I have to not try I have to try not to die.
15:17
SPEAKER_02: And then the rest of the fight is both people trying not to die while also killing the other person or whatever.
15:22
SPEAKER_02: It's crazy.
15:23
SPEAKER_02: Forgok who it's less killing more in capacity expelling.
15:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
15:26
SPEAKER_02: But doing that.
15:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
15:29
SPEAKER_02: It's just it's fun because it's like again, we we were complaining a lot.
15:34
SPEAKER_02: Like it would have been it was building until last episode for most of this article.
15:38
SPEAKER_02: We're like, come on, like just give us something.
15:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
15:40
SPEAKER_02: And they're getting it's like, give you something.
15:42
SPEAKER_02: It's instead of like, give me the pizza with nothing.
15:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
15:45
SPEAKER_02: Give me the pizza with everything.
15:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
15:48
SPEAKER_01: And the this episode, these episodes had everything.
15:51
SPEAKER_01: Like, first of all, it starts the the the it starts with the sneeze.
15:55
SPEAKER_01: It's not a good time for the sneeze to happen.
15:57
SPEAKER_01: Launch goes to purple for the rest of the episode.
15:59
SPEAKER_02: For the rest of the episode.
16:00
SPEAKER_01: For the episode of the episodes.
16:01
SPEAKER_01: And then we've got two aura farmers just aura farming.
16:05
SPEAKER_01: Goku is still in the pose from the end of the last episode, and Piccolo is also farming with his arms crossed in the background.
16:12
SPEAKER_01: Um and then Goku or the Piccolo, he says something at the beginning of the first episode where he's like, ho-ho, we'll make this fast.
16:20
SPEAKER_01: You know, or I'm sorry, let's do this fast.
16:22
SPEAKER_01: You know, that kind of thing.
16:23
SPEAKER_02: People are awaiting their destruction.
16:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
16:26
SPEAKER_02: Some along people are awaiting their destruction.
16:28
SPEAKER_02: People are waiting.
16:29
SPEAKER_02: We gotta wait.
16:30
SPEAKER_02: We have to go, I apologize.
16:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
16:32
SPEAKER_01: And Goku immediately gets his attention.
16:35
SPEAKER_01: And this is one of the many times I didn't point it out until about the second episode, but Piccolo's reaction faces every time he gets hit is ridiculous.
16:46
SPEAKER_01: It's like he's made of like silly putty.
16:49
SPEAKER_01: He's just everywhere.
16:51
SPEAKER_01: Like his face is like his jaw is like at one spot, his face is like six feet away.
16:57
SPEAKER_01: And faces next area code.
16:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the lower jaw is six feet from his upper jaw.
17:02
SPEAKER_01: Like, there are a lot of moments like that where he's like, oh, ooh, oh yeah.
17:09
SPEAKER_01: So many hilarious reaction shots, which is a one.
17:14
SPEAKER_01: You know, it's not like enough to make you like n start laughing and not care about what's going on, but it is enough to be like, this is some good crap.
17:23
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's it's settling the impact of the hits by over exact exaggeration.
17:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's not and it's not like play both like slapstick, you know, sound effects.
17:34
SPEAKER_01: It's like, you know, the normal death blow sound effects.
17:38
SPEAKER_02: How you know it's like doing all that, and it's just you understand that he is getting a f a fade right now.
17:47
SPEAKER_02: As as I jokingly said.
17:49
SPEAKER_02: Like he Goku is beating the ever-loving crap out of him for the first like 10 minutes of the first episode.
17:56
SPEAKER_01: But the first half of the first episode, though.
17:58
SPEAKER_01: Like at one point, Piccolo hits him with a beam like head on, and it like knocks Goku, and everybody's like, oh well, that was it.
18:06
SPEAKER_01: And he like catches the bar and like spins like five times, then jumps right back down and punches Piccolo in the face.
18:13
SPEAKER_01: And it's like Piccolo just hit him with like a beam that would kill most people.
18:16
SPEAKER_02: Piccolo hit him with a beam that like incapacitated him the first time they fought.
18:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
18:20
SPEAKER_01: And he just like didn't didn't even hurt him, it didn't seem didn't seem to fade him.
18:24
SPEAKER_01: Shook it off immediately.
18:25
SPEAKER_02: I was like, yeah, there you go.
18:27
SPEAKER_02: What do you do?
18:29
SPEAKER_01: This is where I wrote down the no one likes Dragon Ball more than people in Dragon Ball.
18:34
SPEAKER_01: Because guess what everyone is doing?
18:35
SPEAKER_01: Tien, why run away?
18:38
SPEAKER_01: And I can stay and watch this cool fight.
18:41
SPEAKER_01: Which is important you didn't stay later on.
18:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
18:43
SPEAKER_01: Well, like he's it's important in two different ways.
18:46
SPEAKER_02: The guard goes and grabs the king and like, hey king, there's a cool fight going.
18:51
SPEAKER_02: Let's go watch it.
18:52
SPEAKER_02: Dude, some kids beating Piccolo's head.
18:55
SPEAKER_02: And then like you're like, oh, someone's picking his.
18:58
SPEAKER_01: I love watching fights.
19:00
SPEAKER_01: Let's go.
19:00
SPEAKER_01: I know I'm the peace president or peace king, but I love watching people fight.
19:05
SPEAKER_02: I I do love watching the bad guy get beat.
19:10
SPEAKER_02: I love me some action action movies where the action star wins.
19:14
SPEAKER_01: There's one moment right after that where Tien is like finally seeing like Goku's aura.
19:20
SPEAKER_01: Like literally his like aura.
19:21
SPEAKER_01: And he's like glowed like a deity, and it's like Tien's like whole worldview broke.
19:26
SPEAKER_01: He it's like the moment where like uh Roshi or Jack Jackie in the tournament is fighting, and he's um he like just watched Goku like blow all of that air out and like not get hit, and then he's like fighting the guy, and he's like in a daze of like what is going on.
19:43
SPEAKER_01: It's like that moment for Tien where he's like, Whoa! This is another level.
19:48
SPEAKER_01: It's like there's levels to this.
19:50
SPEAKER_01: There's levels to the levels.
19:52
SPEAKER_02: And I am I'm not as high as I thought I was.
19:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
19:56
SPEAKER_01: And then this is where I I see the moment.
19:58
SPEAKER_01: It's one of my favorite memes, and like I think it was a Vine at the point where it's like anime characters be like, and it's the kid like just getting like launched down the hallway at the school.
20:09
SPEAKER_01: He's like boom-boo-boo-boo-boo, and he's like, Alright, now it's time.
20:14
SPEAKER_01: I'm just getting warmed up.
20:15
SPEAKER_01: It's my favorite video.
20:18
SPEAKER_02: It is it is such a funny video.
20:20
SPEAKER_02: I know exactly what you're talking about.
20:21
SPEAKER_02: It's like rules around down the hallway.
20:24
SPEAKER_01: He's like, then he gets up, he's like, ah, just warm him up.
20:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
20:30
SPEAKER_02: It might have actually been somebody on the mid in the middle of the street, but like I know exactly what you're talking about.
20:34
SPEAKER_02: It's so funny.
20:35
SPEAKER_01: It's just that it's always my it's like a cliche, and it was a cliche enough that like in with a vine, they were able to make it, which was like 20 years ago.
20:44
SPEAKER_01: But cliches are cliches for a reason.
20:47
SPEAKER_01: They're important, they're good storytelling.
20:50
SPEAKER_01: They happen a lot because they're good.
20:51
SPEAKER_01: They're also really funny to end it.
20:53
SPEAKER_02: I bet it's hilarious to be like, okay, we need to pick a load of ragdoll right now.
20:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
20:59
SPEAKER_02: It's like the collision noises on like uh Alright, now it's time.
21:06
SPEAKER_02: What is the item collision noises on like SFM or like whatever?
21:09
SPEAKER_00: It's like I'm gonna have to load.
21:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
21:13
SPEAKER_01: But then he like, you know, he's like, alright, time to fight back.
21:16
SPEAKER_01: And then he gets replayed three times the next hit.
21:19
SPEAKER_01: And he's like, okay, okay.
21:21
SPEAKER_01: You're not so different, we're not so different, you and I.
21:34
SPEAKER_02: I am Diego Montoya, you killed my father, prepared to die.
21:37
SPEAKER_01: You you killed my mentor and best friend, prepared to die.
21:41
SPEAKER_02: I also love the like talking about people dying, I love how casually Tien's like, yes, he is dead.
21:47
SPEAKER_02: Also, Chiasu is dead.
21:48
SPEAKER_02: I know you don't care much about him, but he is dead.
21:50
SPEAKER_01: He was my best friend.
21:51
SPEAKER_01: He was the only person I remember.
21:53
SPEAKER_02: If we're going on a mission to, you know, revive the other two, could we also, you know, revive him too?
21:57
SPEAKER_02: And Goku's like, who?
22:00
SPEAKER_01: Who have I ever said a word to have I said a word to him yet?
22:03
SPEAKER_01: I don't give a.
22:06
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if they've ever talked.
22:08
SPEAKER_01: Like, and that's like a point of contention, like, from like throughout.
22:12
SPEAKER_01: Like, even in like Z and stuff, it's like, does Goku even know that Chiatsu exists?
22:17
SPEAKER_01: Is Chiatsu like able to be seen by Goku?
22:19
SPEAKER_02: Because he is it like the same thing where it's like, uh freaking uh I just blanked, I just blanked on uh I just blanked on Lord of the Rings stuff.
22:30
SPEAKER_02: Just blanked on his name.
22:31
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
22:32
SPEAKER_02: Oh no.
22:32
SPEAKER_02: Like Bilbo?
22:33
SPEAKER_02: No.
22:33
SPEAKER_02: Frodo Frodo.
22:35
SPEAKER_02: I don't think Frodo knows who Legolas is.
22:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:38
SPEAKER_02: Because they never say a line of dialogue to each other.
22:40
SPEAKER_02: And like in the scene where he's recovering, he's recovering in like Riverdale or whatever.
22:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:48
SPEAKER_02: And like they all come into the room.
22:51
SPEAKER_02: He's like, ah.
22:53
SPEAKER_02: Ah, like he's like, everyone walks to the room.
22:56
SPEAKER_02: And then Gibbley walks, he's like, ah, and then Rick comes like he looks.
22:59
SPEAKER_02: He's like.
23:05
SPEAKER_01: He's like, oh no, no, no.
23:07
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, it's like a point of contention that people were like, um, actually they have talked, but it's like, I don't, I can't think of a time.
23:14
SPEAKER_01: Even like in the tournament, I don't think I don't think they have a conversation.
23:18
SPEAKER_02: They don't I don't think they don't say a lot of words to each other because they're not really people of a whole lot of words.
23:23
SPEAKER_02: Like neither one of them, especially in the tournament saga.
23:26
SPEAKER_02: No, no, they're enjoying like sentences to each other.
23:29
SPEAKER_02: Tien does most of the talking for Chiatsu anyways.
23:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
23:31
SPEAKER_02: I want to say they did talk like at least like once or twice.
23:35
SPEAKER_02: A fact or something.
23:36
SPEAKER_02: But it was mostly, but it was mostly Chia Tsu was insulting Krillin.
23:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
23:40
SPEAKER_01: And Goku, I don't think, was around for most of the insulting to Krillin.
23:43
SPEAKER_01: Or like he didn't care.
23:44
SPEAKER_01: He was so focused on the streets.
23:46
SPEAKER_02: Specifically, like in the restaurant, like him and Tien are going at it.
23:49
SPEAKER_02: Then Krillin gives Goku back up, and then Chiatsu says something to Krillin.
23:53
SPEAKER_02: And then Goku just moves on.
23:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
23:55
SPEAKER_01: It's like, I mean, the fact we're having a conversation about this, it's like Goku might think that Chiatsu's just Tien's imaginary friend if he doesn't remember.
24:05
SPEAKER_01: Like he got a concussion at one point, and he's like, Who?
24:09
SPEAKER_01: Who the heck?
24:10
SPEAKER_01: Who's Chiatsu?
24:11
SPEAKER_01: I've never heard of this.
24:13
SPEAKER_02: I always love that Frodo, like Lord of the Rings.
24:15
SPEAKER_02: Like, Frodo doesn't know who Legolas is.
24:19
SPEAKER_02: Like the like the main I guess the main sentence Legolas ever says is, and you have my bow.
24:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
24:27
SPEAKER_02: And then like he might say one other sentence to Frodo.
24:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:32
SPEAKER_02: Like he I think you might like console him like a tiny bit or like console the entire group with him together after uh Gandalf.
24:39
SPEAKER_02: Spoiler alert for Lord of the Rings, a book series that's like from the 30s.
24:43
SPEAKER_02: 40s.
24:46
SPEAKER_02: And you know, spoiler for the movies that came out like 25 years ago.
24:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:50
SPEAKER_02: But like Gandalf dies in the first one.
24:52
SPEAKER_02: Like when Gandalf dies, he's like helping console all of the hobbits and everyone.
24:58
SPEAKER_02: You fools.
24:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
25:01
SPEAKER_02: That might be that might be like all of the interaction canonically, at least in the movies.
25:05
SPEAKER_02: Obviously in the books, there might be more.
25:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
25:07
SPEAKER_02: At least in the movies, that's like canonically what happens between them.
25:10
SPEAKER_02: And so he just doesn't know who he is.
25:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
25:13
SPEAKER_01: He like knows of him.
25:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
25:16
SPEAKER_01: But that's about it.
25:18
SPEAKER_01: Um, one thing back on it, I I did not know that piano was dead before the disintegrating into the end of the Earth's core when the world breaks apart.
25:28
SPEAKER_02: Well, piano is dead?
25:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
25:29
SPEAKER_01: That piano was dead before that.
25:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
25:31
SPEAKER_01: I thought piano got knocked out.
25:32
SPEAKER_01: I did not think it was a death shot.
25:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
25:35
SPEAKER_01: But then like piano is just like falling into the the ground.
25:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
25:41
SPEAKER_01: Um, and then this is where Piccolo finally is like, okay, okay.
25:45
SPEAKER_01: I know I said last time that I wasn't messing around, but now I'm really not messing around.
25:50
SPEAKER_01: You made me even angrier.
25:53
SPEAKER_01: And so then he gets his first good punch in this entire time, you know?
25:57
SPEAKER_01: It's his first, like, major punch into the like into Goku, a direct hit, no problems whatsoever.
26:05
SPEAKER_01: Goku's in a hole in the ground, presumably dead, but we find out it's not.
26:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
26:11
SPEAKER_01: And what he's doing down there is charging a Kamehameha, so that when he jumps up, he can just blast it right at Piccolo.
26:18
SPEAKER_01: But before we get there, I have one last note that we don't bring up very often on this show.
26:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
26:23
SPEAKER_01: The end of episode where they do the still with the the watercolors.
26:28
SPEAKER_01: Whew.
26:30
SPEAKER_01: Each one of them could hang up on my wall.
26:32
SPEAKER_01: They are great.
26:33
SPEAKER_01: When they like because they don't do it often, a lot of times it is just animation moving from the and moving into the next episode.
26:40
SPEAKER_01: But like in this episode in particular, they do it where like Goku's in the air, like charging up the beam, and like pickle those like NTNs off in the background going like yeah, and it's just like still watercolor painting, and it is peak.
26:55
SPEAKER_01: Oh Chef's Kiss perfect.
26:57
SPEAKER_01: You know.
26:57
SPEAKER_02: It's great when like a piece of art makes you go, like, I want that on my wall.
27:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
27:01
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, I gotta I gotta mention this because I haven't mentioned it before, but they have done it a few times before this.
27:07
SPEAKER_01: But when they do it, when they decide they're just those frames of animation.
27:11
SPEAKER_02: Like I remember one, I think it was like the the um when he was fighting Baba's people, and it went like ghostly white during one of the fights.
27:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was a great flashbang, you're like, oh, that would be awesome to like have like a negative of that on your wall.
27:26
SPEAKER_01: Which um speaking uh of negatives, there is a spot in the second episode where Goku hits Piccolo so hard that the universe goes into negative.
27:38
SPEAKER_01: Where like like it's like when you're playing on your iPhone, you click the home button three times and every color swaps.
27:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
27:44
SPEAKER_01: It's like that.
27:45
SPEAKER_01: Like Piccolo is a completely different color.
27:48
SPEAKER_01: Goku's a completely different color, TN's a completely different color.
27:51
SPEAKER_01: The the whole universe is like orange.
27:53
SPEAKER_01: It looks like somebody poured orange juice over the entire like the in front of the camera.
27:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
27:58
SPEAKER_01: It's insane.
28:00
SPEAKER_01: And it's super cool.
28:02
SPEAKER_01: But this is where we get to the second episode.
28:05
SPEAKER_01: Is Goku gonna be able to land a command mail?
28:07
SPEAKER_01: We know it didn't work last time because Piccolo has like an unbreakable block or something.
28:12
SPEAKER_01: And so, uh, what does Goku do?
28:14
SPEAKER_01: He pulls out a new out a new tech.
28:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he curves the beam.
28:18
SPEAKER_01: He's like, it's like me playing this pit in Super Smash Bros.
28:23
SPEAKER_01: where I'm like, I'm shooting this arrow, but I'm making it go wherever I want it to.
28:28
SPEAKER_02: Yep, it's it's it's just Goku being cool.
28:31
SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's nothing else to say about it.
28:33
SPEAKER_01: When did he learn it?
28:34
SPEAKER_01: Who cares?
28:35
SPEAKER_01: He knows it now, he can do it.
28:36
SPEAKER_02: Goku just did it on a whims, like, I know how I can get around you.
28:40
SPEAKER_02: I almost wear just it's always funny to think about Goku's plan if what he thought would work didn't work.
28:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, where he's like, so what's your plan if it didn't curve?
28:53
SPEAKER_01: It's gonna curve.
28:54
SPEAKER_01: Off screen, I I practiced this.
28:57
SPEAKER_01: You know, in the that time where we jumped three years between like the Baba and Tien sagas, I practiced the curving Kamehameha.
29:06
SPEAKER_01: It was in between one of the episodes.
29:08
SPEAKER_01: It was in between me, like when I first fought Tien, I was like, I might need to be able to curve this uh this curve.
29:13
SPEAKER_02: Curve it like a bullet.
29:14
SPEAKER_01: And so I I after that episode I just worked on it when I was after fighting the Inushaka show.
29:20
SPEAKER_01: Um and this is where we get a lot of heck yeah for me.
29:24
SPEAKER_01: Um and then it's like heck yeah, launch with the banana joke, because like Bullman's like, this is bananas, and launch is like, Does somebody say bananas?
29:33
SPEAKER_01: You want some food?
29:33
SPEAKER_01: Here's some banana.
29:35
SPEAKER_01: And then the next one is heck yeah, let everyone watch Dragon Ball.
29:39
SPEAKER_01: Because they finally get a key they finally get a live stream going.
29:42
SPEAKER_01: We're like, we're able to show you what's happening down there.
29:44
SPEAKER_01: Like a photo, yeah.
29:47
SPEAKER_02: And then they and that's when they describe So one of them seems to be fighting Piccolo, is a young man who is very bald.
29:56
SPEAKER_02: He's bald.
29:57
SPEAKER_01: And when we say bald, we mean very bald, like zero hair.
30:02
SPEAKER_02: Like it it almost glared the camera.
30:04
SPEAKER_02: We gotta put it in the exact right angle not to get glared.
30:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
30:07
SPEAKER_02: And the other one's a small child.
30:09
SPEAKER_01: Anyways, there's also a small child.
30:11
SPEAKER_01: We don't have any other way to explain to him at all.
30:14
SPEAKER_01: No speed.
30:15
SPEAKER_01: Everyone's just like no tail, no like orange jumpsuit.
30:19
SPEAKER_01: No, it's just a child.
30:21
SPEAKER_01: Small child.
30:22
SPEAKER_02: A small boy, I guess that's what they say.
30:25
SPEAKER_02: And everyone's like, a small boy.
30:27
SPEAKER_02: Is it is it possible that the only person in the known universe who could probably beat this guy is actively trying to beat him?
30:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
30:35
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, maybe.
30:36
SPEAKER_01: Is it possible?
30:38
SPEAKER_01: But wait, I thought he was dead.
30:40
SPEAKER_01: And they're like, yeah, but nobody saw that he was dead.
30:44
SPEAKER_01: But there was no body, we just all kind of thought he died because we never saw him again.
30:49
SPEAKER_02: Because that was kind of the most logical ex explanation to where he's at right now.
30:52
SPEAKER_02: Is like, well, he must be dead.
30:54
SPEAKER_01: But while that's all happening, we also get the Goku pulling up the power pole, which he doesn't do very often.
31:00
SPEAKER_01: He really doesn't use the power pole very often, especially in fights.
31:04
SPEAKER_01: He almost sees it.
31:05
SPEAKER_01: It's mostly like a utility belt moment where I need I need this for something different.
31:09
SPEAKER_01: I need to get tall.
31:11
SPEAKER_01: But they use power pole.
31:12
SPEAKER_01: Um but he uses it here to like after he gets like his leg hit, where they're like, haha, you cannot, and Piccolo's like, you can't come at me now, as he's gotten huge.
31:22
SPEAKER_01: And then Goku's like, oh really?
31:26
SPEAKER_01: Powerful extend, boom, who punch.
31:29
SPEAKER_01: And Piccolo's like, what?
31:31
SPEAKER_01: What is this?
31:32
SPEAKER_01: What is going on?
31:34
SPEAKER_01: Um, and then Goku gets a full nuke dropped dropped on him.
31:38
SPEAKER_01: Like where everyone's like, well, he's dead.
31:41
SPEAKER_01: Justin started singing Fallout Radio.
31:43
SPEAKER_02: Uranium fever.
31:45
SPEAKER_01: That's all we can sing, that's all we can sing.
31:47
SPEAKER_01: But he was just the whole time he was like, What is it's like, this is a full nuke.
31:56
SPEAKER_01: And it's it's like very reminiscent of Hiroshima and Nagasaki after it.
32:00
SPEAKER_01: If it feels like that was part of it.
32:02
SPEAKER_02: It's like, this is how do we show that this dude's like really a bad guy?
32:07
SPEAKER_01: We'll make him literally drop an atomic bomb.
32:10
SPEAKER_01: On the city, which apparently doesn't hit Sano.
32:12
SPEAKER_01: Like, she's in the city.
32:14
SPEAKER_01: Like that that is in the city, that's like the only building standing.
32:17
SPEAKER_01: Like they get the shockwave.
32:18
SPEAKER_01: That's like the only building standing in this entire city.
32:21
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I guess they get the shockwave and it breaks the window.
32:24
SPEAKER_02: And then, like, when we see her next episode, everything's just perfectly fixed.
32:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:28
SPEAKER_02: It's like, okay, a little bit of continuity error there, guys.
32:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:32
SPEAKER_01: But Goku wasn't there.
32:35
SPEAKER_02: But like it was funny to see, like, I think someone forgot to animate some stuff.
32:39
SPEAKER_01: But Goku wasn't didn't happen to be in that nuke because he was just three feet above it.
32:45
SPEAKER_02: Grabbed him and flew him out.
32:48
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, I remember thinking we mentioned it, but like, yeah, like obviously Goku just got his leg broken, so he can't move very well.
32:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
32:54
SPEAKER_02: So why he pulled out the power pool to use it to be as like a uh a way to move fast to get at.
33:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
33:01
SPEAKER_01: And so Tien, like seeing what's happening, used the last of his energy to fly over and grab Goku and fly straight up into the air before it all hit.
33:10
SPEAKER_01: And Piccolo's like, hmm, aha, you used the last of your energy.
33:14
SPEAKER_02: Now you're easy to kill.
33:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
33:16
SPEAKER_01: But instead of doing that, he goes to fight Goku.
33:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
33:19
SPEAKER_01: And now, for now.
33:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
33:21
SPEAKER_01: But then Goku starts taking a little bit of a beating, and then he's like about ready to start like the third round, and Piccolo's like, wait a minute, wait a minute.
33:30
SPEAKER_01: Next episode, he's like, I'm grabbing Tien.
33:33
SPEAKER_01: Come towards me or try to stop me, and I will crush his skull like candy in my hand.
33:38
SPEAKER_02: I will kill him.
33:39
SPEAKER_02: And Goku's like, no, how dare you?
33:42
SPEAKER_02: And then Goku decides, you know what?
33:45
SPEAKER_02: Actually, I can drag him back.
33:47
SPEAKER_02: It went like the Dragon Ball.
33:49
SPEAKER_02: And Piccolo's like, ha ha ha ha.
33:51
SPEAKER_02: I killed the dragon idiot.
33:53
SPEAKER_02: You can't use the dragon balls to save your friend.
33:56
SPEAKER_01: And so Goku, like, just accepts the punishment.
33:59
SPEAKER_01: But while that's going on, right be in between, like, the the first time where Piccolo grabs uh Tien, is we get Yadurobi's back and we get the dumb bit where it goes a little too long, but it is it was fun, it just overstayed him just by a bit.
34:14
SPEAKER_01: Um, but Goku again just starts taking a beating.
34:18
SPEAKER_01: He's just the rocks are flying, Piccolo's just throwing rocks into him to like break his legs and arms.
34:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
34:26
SPEAKER_01: But Goku does not care.
34:29
SPEAKER_01: We do not care.
34:30
SPEAKER_01: We do not care.
34:31
SPEAKER_01: You left me one arm, I'm gonna Kamehameha mayo the ground or use energy beam to fly.
34:37
SPEAKER_01: It looks like a Kamehameha, but the way he builds it up is so different than a Kamehameha.
34:42
SPEAKER_01: So it's like I don't know what he actually did.
34:44
SPEAKER_02: It's like a one-handed beam rifle thing.
34:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so but he rifles himself into the air at like breakneck speed and he goes for his signature move right through an MF or his chest.
34:55
SPEAKER_01: Marshawn Lynch woke up and a tear shed from his eyes because he just ran through a guy's chest.
35:02
SPEAKER_02: This is happening what in the 80s?
35:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
35:04
SPEAKER_02: He was like the big 80s like power back.
35:06
SPEAKER_01: No, it's still Marshawn Lynch.
35:08
SPEAKER_01: He was he was born, he he was alive.
35:10
SPEAKER_02: Well, Marshawn Lynch came out of his dad and his mom were like, oh I I I feel a higher calling from Japan.
35:17
SPEAKER_02: I must run through Min's chest.
35:19
SPEAKER_01: He saw this, he saw this at one point and was like, wait a minute.
35:23
SPEAKER_01: This is this is where I this is where the saying comes from.
35:26
SPEAKER_01: It's inception.
35:27
SPEAKER_01: He saw this and was like, you know what?
35:29
SPEAKER_01: Running through an NFR's chest might work every once in a while.
35:33
SPEAKER_01: And he does.
35:34
SPEAKER_01: He goes right through Piccolo goes right through or Goku goes right through.
35:37
SPEAKER_01: Piccolo goes right through Piccolo.
35:39
SPEAKER_01: Goku goes right through Piccolo's chest.
35:41
SPEAKER_01: Leaves like a full like giant hole in his chest.
35:45
SPEAKER_02: An unrecoverable injury.
35:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, which is hilarious knowing what we know about his race of creature and like stuff that we see later on, even in just like the next s uh bit of Dragon Ball.
35:59
SPEAKER_01: But like they can recover from this.
36:02
SPEAKER_01: They have they're like salamanders.
36:04
SPEAKER_01: As long as like their their brains intact, they can like fully recover from these types of things.
36:10
SPEAKER_02: They just have to strain really hard and then it just whoop.
36:13
SPEAKER_02: Well, I I guess if you if that's the argument, like maybe because of how much energy he expended fighting Goku three entire fight and have to power up and stuff.
36:22
SPEAKER_02: Because even he makes a reference like using my full power shortens my lifespan.
36:26
SPEAKER_02: So maybe he was at such full power for so long he couldn't strain enough to revive himself.
36:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I guess I'd do the one thing he can do with the last little bit of energy left.
36:35
SPEAKER_02: And that is reproduce.
36:37
SPEAKER_02: He launches a lake, uh, a lake, he launches an egg into the mountains.
36:42
SPEAKER_02: He's like, go, my son, and get rid of it.
36:44
SPEAKER_01: It's all for you.
36:46
SPEAKER_01: Remember me.
36:48
SPEAKER_01: Whenever you were.
36:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
36:50
SPEAKER_01: I can't wait to kick that guy's butt in this.
36:53
SPEAKER_01: Okay, sorry for a side change.
36:55
SPEAKER_01: Kingdom Hearts 4 uh was just announced like a week or two ago.
37:01
SPEAKER_01: And uh they showed that we get to go to the go to the Cochara land.
37:06
SPEAKER_01: I can't wait to kick that guy's butt.
37:08
SPEAKER_01: I wanna k I don't wanna I'm gonna replay that level multiple times just so I can continue to be high- I want to set a high score for how hard I kicked this man's butt.
37:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
37:18
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna speed run kicking this man's butt.
37:21
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to- And then I'm gonna slow run it.
37:23
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna strap him to a table and just make sure it lasts as long as possible.
37:28
SPEAKER_01: Hit.
37:28
SPEAKER_01: Dodge, dodge, dodge, dodge, dodge, dodge.
37:31
SPEAKER_01: Five minutes later.
37:32
SPEAKER_01: Dodge, dodge, dodge, dodge, hit.
37:35
SPEAKER_01: Like he's gonna run.
37:36
SPEAKER_01: I want him to Oh, he wants people to remember.
37:39
SPEAKER_01: I want him to remember me.
37:40
SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
37:41
SPEAKER_01: Remember me.
37:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
37:44
SPEAKER_01: That's what we're gonna be putting this guy through.
37:47
SPEAKER_01: Uh, but anyways, yeah, he literally just shoots his egg out and then dies.
37:52
SPEAKER_01: What before he as he dies, he explodes.
37:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he does explode.
37:56
SPEAKER_01: Which is pretty cool.
37:57
SPEAKER_01: Um committed, he yeah, he he casted uh self-destruction.
38:00
SPEAKER_01: But Goku does not have his uh power pole.
38:05
SPEAKER_01: Um he does not have the nimbus right now for whatever reason.
38:09
SPEAKER_02: I think I think it's because he couldn't call it physically himself that like why he didn't show up.
38:13
SPEAKER_01: And Goku has one arm, can't fly, and probably used the last of his energy to rocket himself forward through Piccolo.
38:21
SPEAKER_01: So what is he going to do?
38:22
SPEAKER_02: Now he's falling into the crater.
38:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
38:25
SPEAKER_01: But luckily, right at the moment that he's needed, Yajurovi shows up and is like, whoa, free meal.
38:32
SPEAKER_01: Like, oh, you're like, Yo me a sandwich, you can't die.
38:36
SPEAKER_01: And then he jumps, catches a mid-air like Hulk does with Iron Man, and then lands and he's like, Okay, where's my food?
38:45
SPEAKER_01: No, I'm just kidding.
38:46
SPEAKER_01: But the day's saved.
38:48
SPEAKER_01: Tien's okay, everyone's okay, except for everyone who lived in this city who's gotten atomized.
38:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, presumably just a pile of dirt underneath a pile of rubble.
38:57
SPEAKER_01: And basically where we leave off is Tien's going to go back to the Kame house, tell everybody what happened.
39:03
SPEAKER_01: Goku or Yajirobi's taking Goku to go get help to get him healed up.
39:07
SPEAKER_01: I'm assuming probably taking them back to Koran.
39:09
SPEAKER_01: I'm guessing right back to Koran.
39:11
SPEAKER_01: I'm guessing right back to Koren because we as I know, but I don't think it's been expressly stated, the Sensu beans do have like healing properties.
39:19
SPEAKER_02: So like he's gonna get- I was thinking Joku, like, I hope Yajirobi has a Sensu bean.
39:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, when I saw when I saw Yajurobi, I was like, please tell me he brought one.
39:27
SPEAKER_01: That would be like a great way to end this, like, in this fight, is that like go like Goku's basically like on death's doorstep, and then here comes Yajurobi, as he like rolls up and he just throws throws a chunks of bean.
39:44
SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, that's that's the episode.
39:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, or that's the episode.
39:49
SPEAKER_01: Like we don't get to really there's no like denouement, there's no like setting up a next art.
39:54
SPEAKER_01: Like the only bit of setup we get is is Goku going to like be able to recover and what happened with that egg.
40:01
SPEAKER_01: But they don't show us either one of those.
40:03
SPEAKER_01: That's literally just hanging threads in this episode.
40:07
SPEAKER_02: Well, I certainly won't know about the egg for a little while.
40:09
SPEAKER_01: Um yeah.
40:11
SPEAKER_01: Um, so Jesse, are you ready for the prediction section?
40:15
SPEAKER_01: Because this is gonna be a very important prediction section.
40:18
SPEAKER_01: You wanna know why?
40:19
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
40:20
SPEAKER_01: Because you got two-thirds of yours right.
40:23
SPEAKER_01: You had that Goku will fight Piccolo, Piccolo will get the upper hand, and then the last one was Yamcha and Tien give Goku enough time to k to kill Piccolo.
40:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
40:33
SPEAKER_01: You did kind of just think that they were gonna show up just in time.
40:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
40:37
SPEAKER_01: You know?
40:38
SPEAKER_02: But just in time to like stall for a minute or two.
40:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but they did not quite make it there in time, and Tien didn't really do much to distract.
40:45
SPEAKER_01: He kind of was just a helper for him.
40:47
SPEAKER_02: I mean, because a T and Tien helped him survive the first atomic blast.
40:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I don't think that counts because that's not what you were saying.
40:52
SPEAKER_01: That's not what I was saying, yeah.
40:54
SPEAKER_01: And so, Jesse, overall, you did get your pit your uh your prediction for the saga.
41:00
SPEAKER_01: We already gave that to you a while back because it was just Goku's gonna fight King Piccolo.
41:05
SPEAKER_01: It's like, well, that's no duh.
41:07
SPEAKER_01: But you know, you ready to hear what the final saga is named in Dragon Ball?
41:12
SPEAKER_02: Oh, this is the final one.
41:14
SPEAKER_02: This is the last saga.
41:15
SPEAKER_02: Or the last saga?
41:16
SPEAKER_01: This is the last I told you the last one was the second to last.
41:19
SPEAKER_01: This is the last saga.
41:20
SPEAKER_01: And it goes from 123 to 153.
41:24
SPEAKER_01: This is the series finale of Dragon Ball.
41:28
SPEAKER_01: Are you ready to hear the name?
41:30
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
41:31
SPEAKER_01: It is called the Piccolo Jr.
41:34
SPEAKER_01: saga.
41:36
SPEAKER_02: Oh man.
41:37
SPEAKER_02: I guess I was wrong.
41:38
SPEAKER_02: I wish we were gonna figure out what happened with that egg pretty soon.
41:41
SPEAKER_02: I guess in hindsight, yeah, when he bursts an egg, they come out like a full-grown person.
41:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
41:46
SPEAKER_02: Um, well, I guess I guess we're gonna figure out about Piccolo Jr.
41:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
41:50
SPEAKER_01: That's pretty easy.
41:51
SPEAKER_01: Gonna learn about Piccolo Jr.
41:55
SPEAKER_02: And Goku teaches him love with the strength of friendship.
41:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
41:59
SPEAKER_01: Goku teaches him love with strength of friendship.
42:02
SPEAKER_01: And Piccolo Jr.
42:03
SPEAKER_01: becomes a good guy.
42:04
unknown: Okay.
42:05
SPEAKER_01: This is all Jesse going off of what he knows of Piccolo James.
42:09
SPEAKER_02: I know there's a Piccolo character in Dragon Ball Z.
42:14
SPEAKER_01: Piccolo becomes a good guy.
42:15
SPEAKER_02: Or Piccolo Jr.
42:16
SPEAKER_02: becomes a good guy.
42:17
SPEAKER_01: Piccolo Jr.
42:18
SPEAKER_01: becomes a good guy, sorry.
42:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
42:19
SPEAKER_02: Obviously Piccolo's not kind of a good guy, because he's dead.
42:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
42:24
SPEAKER_01: Alright, so you want to hear the the name uh or the names of the next two episodes then?
42:29
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
42:30
SPEAKER_01: Lost and found and Temple Above the Clouds.
42:36
SPEAKER_01: Lost and Found.
42:43
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's a place where like you put stuff that they were lost and you want somebody to help find them.
42:48
SPEAKER_01: That's one, I mean, I know that's probably not what you're thinking here, but yeah, I know.
42:52
SPEAKER_02: Um I guess like it's lost and found because you know they lost Goku.
42:58
SPEAKER_02: And now that they they found out that Goku's okay.
43:01
SPEAKER_02: Like they like they're hunting them down.
43:04
SPEAKER_01: Yamcha and the gang trying to help find Goku.
43:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, make sure he's okay.
43:08
SPEAKER_02: And then I guess Temple in the Clouds maybe get Korns Tower, and that's where they found him.
43:14
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
43:15
SPEAKER_01: Korns Tower.
43:18
SPEAKER_01: Okay, we'll take it.
43:20
SPEAKER_01: Um, and so with me with what limited I remember, which is a lot, because I have a pretty good memory of this stuff, I am excited to see what happens in these next two episodes.
43:30
SPEAKER_01: So, Jesse, before we get there, what is your worst part?
43:34
SPEAKER_02: Oh I mean, there's not a whole again, it's it's really nitpicky to say like worst part, because nothing's expressly horrible.
43:42
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I it has to be one of like the two things we complain about.
43:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I guess I'll take the Gajurobi.
43:50
SPEAKER_01: And I'm taking the other one where they they ended the episode with the he's not dead and then began the next episode with Is He Dead.
43:58
SPEAKER_02: But if those are our worst part.
44:00
SPEAKER_02: You know these three episodes.
44:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, these are very good.
44:02
SPEAKER_01: These are high nines.
44:04
SPEAKER_01: These are high nines to ten when it comes to like Dragon Ball.
44:08
SPEAKER_02: This is the exact type of like three episodes for the the like saga finale that you needed for a saga like this to really come out positive.
44:19
SPEAKER_01: We talked about it a lot that they were like juggling so much, but for them to be able to land a lot of that, and I would say basically all of it they landed because they got the first plot which was Goku and Piccolo fighting.
44:34
SPEAKER_01: We finally get them together, they're fighting, they're going at it, and we know that that's gonna be the end, you know.
44:39
SPEAKER_01: We also get Yaduropi, who at last we saw was, you know, had fallen out of Korin's Tower, but he's decided to go find Goku and see how the fight's going, and then helps.
44:50
SPEAKER_01: We get um Sano and Ader, they've helped keep this hospital intact somehow, somehow, and are keeping people alive in there.
44:59
SPEAKER_01: Um we get Yamcha and the gang arriving just in time to not do anything.
45:05
SPEAKER_01: So they're there though.
45:07
SPEAKER_01: Um Dog King gets a escapes.
45:10
SPEAKER_01: You know, we see him flying away.
45:12
SPEAKER_01: He survives.
45:13
SPEAKER_01: Piccolo dies.
45:15
SPEAKER_01: We're we get a lot of it together.
45:17
SPEAKER_01: So the worst parts being so low is or being so high being so what like so low on the rankings of worst, you know.
45:26
SPEAKER_01: They're pretty high, like just being like the only meh parts of the episode, really.
45:31
SPEAKER_02: The only thing you could find a modicum of complaint.
45:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
45:35
SPEAKER_01: Overall, this saga was not my favorite, but this ending kind of saved it from being the worst, you know.
45:41
SPEAKER_01: Like, if this ending flopped, this would be below the blue.
45:46
SPEAKER_01: But this is above bull, this is above all of the red ribbon plus Baba.
45:50
SPEAKER_01: Like, it's just behind the first one and the two tournaments.
45:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
45:54
SPEAKER_01: Like, it's fourth.
45:55
SPEAKER_01: Because tournaments are always peak.
45:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
45:58
SPEAKER_01: For me, it's the first saga is the best saga, the second tournament, the first tournament, and then this one.
46:04
SPEAKER_02: Like the the first saga is just like that nostalgia.
46:07
SPEAKER_02: Like, even if you've never watched it, you feel nostalgia for what's happening.
46:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
46:12
SPEAKER_01: It's just perfect.
46:13
SPEAKER_01: It's like the most uh like unmessed with idea of what Torian wanted to do.
46:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
46:19
SPEAKER_01: You know, it hasn't been there hasn't been other mucking.
46:22
SPEAKER_01: It's literally just we're going on an adventure to find the balls, there's a strange kid with a tail.
46:27
SPEAKER_01: That's all we need.
46:28
SPEAKER_02: And he's abnormally strong.
46:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
46:31
SPEAKER_01: But that is my worst part suggesting best part.
46:34
SPEAKER_01: There's a lot to go off of.
46:35
SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of good, there's a lot of good parts here.
46:39
SPEAKER_02: Um, and there's like just I mean, you could just pick like all these episodes why it's the worst parts, and it's like the best part.
46:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
46:46
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I think I'm gonna go with just like I'm stuck.
46:55
SPEAKER_02: There's like a couple things I want to say, but I can't.
46:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
46:58
SPEAKER_01: For me, it is, you know, Goku.
47:01
SPEAKER_01: We've seen before this these episodes, Goku learned how to sense energy.
47:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
47:05
SPEAKER_01: Um and then we find out during this episode through like osmosis, apparently, Tien is also able to sense the energy, and he's able to sense it coming off of Goku.
47:15
SPEAKER_01: And we also know that Piccolo can sense it, because at one point he's like, uh, he's dead.
47:20
SPEAKER_01: Oh wait, I can sense his energy.
47:22
SPEAKER_01: He's where is he?
47:23
SPEAKER_01: This can't be, you know.
47:26
SPEAKER_01: Um, and so like seeing the energy sensing is kind of catching on that Tien can know it.
47:31
SPEAKER_01: Because it becomes a big thing later on.
47:34
SPEAKER_01: Sensing people's power.
47:35
SPEAKER_01: Being able to sense people's power levels so you can like match up ahead of time.
47:39
SPEAKER_01: Or we can see like, okay, we gotta really try with this guy because he's super strong.
47:43
SPEAKER_01: His power levels are so high.
47:44
SPEAKER_02: His power level is over 9,000.
47:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
47:47
SPEAKER_01: But you know, just classic meme.
47:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but generally, like, that that that's probably not my I guess it won't it's not my best part, but that's a part that I really enjoy.
47:56
SPEAKER_01: And I think the scene itself where TN sees his energy is my favorite part.
48:00
SPEAKER_01: Where like the the whole screen changes, he's having like a come to Jesus moment with like, holy crap, he is like really strong.
48:07
SPEAKER_02: I am not close anymore.
48:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
48:09
SPEAKER_01: I thought like, you know, Jackie told me it was up to me to like stop him.
48:13
SPEAKER_02: I don't think anyone's stopping him.
48:15
SPEAKER_01: I think he's the strongest guy.
48:17
SPEAKER_02: Like I'm the biggest bird, I'm the biggest bird.
48:20
SPEAKER_02: But Jesse, what is your favorite part?
48:22
SPEAKER_02: Oh man.
48:23
SPEAKER_02: I think I'm gonna go with just like how it's just a great these episodes, especially the final episode, is such a great example of how good Goku is at like battle strategy and coming up with things on the fly.
48:39
SPEAKER_02: Like, who thinks like I still have one working arm?
48:41
SPEAKER_02: So let me charge up this giant beam to launch myself at such high velocity and speed that I can break through somebody's.
48:50
SPEAKER_02: And break out the other side and come out relatively unscathed.
48:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
48:54
SPEAKER_02: That's that's a go-to.
48:55
SPEAKER_02: The finisher move.
48:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
48:57
SPEAKER_01: So his go- that's his go-to.
48:59
SPEAKER_01: Like, there's there's no fewer than like three times already where he just like fully launches himself head first at something to like destroy it, you know.
49:07
SPEAKER_01: Like he just loves going for that.
49:09
SPEAKER_01: It's like as much battle strategy as it is, it's also like him just going back to gut instincts as like I know that this guy's strong, but my head is also really strong.
49:19
SPEAKER_01: So let's see what happens if I shoot myself under the.
49:26
SPEAKER_02: Like if I threw all my body weight through your chest cavity, I would do really good damage.
49:32
SPEAKER_02: Obviously, launch yourself like a bullet at me, it would hurt.
49:36
SPEAKER_02: Like, I I'm not Goku and I don't have like the strength to penetrate through you.
49:40
SPEAKER_02: But I'm cracking multiple ribs, and I'm probably puncturing a lung or another major organ.
49:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
49:45
SPEAKER_02: Like, so it is a strategy where you think about it.
49:48
SPEAKER_02: It's like what is one of the weakest parts of like any humanoid body that's doesn't have like an exoskeleton or whatever?
49:55
SPEAKER_02: It's your chest cavity.
49:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
49:57
SPEAKER_02: It's why there's a rib cage there for extra protection.
50:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
50:00
SPEAKER_02: But so I think it makes sense.
50:02
SPEAKER_01: I just really enjoy these episodes.
50:04
SPEAKER_01: We're good.
50:05
SPEAKER_01: This arc was this arc ends up being good, even though there was a lot of not in this it this the ending kind of saves it, you know.
50:12
SPEAKER_01: It did what it had to.
50:13
SPEAKER_01: It landed the plane.
50:15
SPEAKER_01: It landed the plane and it also shot off fireworks as it landed.
50:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
50:19
SPEAKER_02: It might have it it's the Gimli glider if they did if no one died.
50:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
50:22
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you know about aviation history, but yeah.
50:25
SPEAKER_02: Like they they were they were really gliding that plane to the to the very end.
50:30
SPEAKER_02: But this time, you know, they're able to save everybody.
50:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
50:33
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50:39
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51:11
SPEAKER_02: Uh we're getting a lot of those like scummy agencies emailing us like so we we are good, we make good commercial product, we make sure everyone know you.
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SPEAKER_02: It's like we are okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Please, somebody out there send us an email.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, not that we're begging, but please, we just need another email.
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SPEAKER_02: I have African Prince Cudgeon.
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SPEAKER_02: He gives you a million dollars to uh make your podcast real for real strong and known.
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SPEAKER_01: That's kind of how it is.
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SPEAKER_01: But if you don't want to reach out to us at becomingsayans at gmail.com, you can always follow us on YouTube, Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok at BecomingSaians Pod.
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SPEAKER_01: And until next week, I've been Truman.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm a Jesse.
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SPEAKER_01: And the journey continues.
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SPEAKER_01: Bye.