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Dragnet: The Big Youngster (EP4514) · The Great Detectives Present Dragnet (Old Time Radio)

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  Speaker 1: Aldaho eight three seven one five. Well, now it is
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  Speaker 1: time for this week's episode of Dragnet. The original air
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  Speaker 1: day August seventeenth, nineteen fifty and the title is The Baggy.
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  Speaker 2: Youngster, Ladies and Gentlemen. Next week, Thursday, August twenty fourth,
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  Speaker 2: Dragnet will be heard one hour earlier at nine pm
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  Speaker 2: Eastern daylight saving time.
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  Speaker 3: The story you are about to hear is true, only
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  Speaker 3: the names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're
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  Speaker 3: a detective sergeant. You're assigned to Juvenile Bureau. A vicious
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  Speaker 3: case of wanton and wilful destruction of private property occurs
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  Speaker 3: in your city. Suspicion points to a juvenile. Your job
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  Speaker 3: find him.
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  Speaker 2: Dragnet. The document a drama of an actual crime. While
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  Speaker 2: the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles
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  Speaker 2: Police Department, you will travel step by step on the
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  Speaker 2: side of the law through an actual case, from official
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  Speaker 2: police violence, from beginning to end, from crime to punishment.
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  Speaker 2: Dragnet is the story of your police force in action.
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  Speaker 4: It was Tuesday, April tenth, was cool in Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 4: We're working a day watch out a juvenile bureau. My
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  Speaker 4: partner's Ben Romero. The boss is Inspector Bowling. My name
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  Speaker 4: is Tridy. Was ninth thirty five am when we got
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  Speaker 4: to thirteen thirty five Georgia Street Captain's office.
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  Speaker 5: And we'll ask you to sit down. We're not going
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  Speaker 5: to be here that long.
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  Speaker 6: You sound mad.
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  Speaker 5: Get your hats, i'd lady, where's it? Carr out front?
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  Speaker 5: All right?
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  Speaker 6: What's up?
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  Speaker 5: A rout and mess?
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  Speaker 4: We got in the car and drove south and figure order.
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  Speaker 4: We got to West one hundred and third Street. According
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  Speaker 4: to Inspector Bowling's directions. We turned right and went about
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  Speaker 4: four miles. He directed us to pull up in front
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  Speaker 4: of a one story frame residence that had been converted
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  Speaker 4: into small business offices. On the right side going in
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  Speaker 4: was a neighborhood jewelers shop. We could see him working
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  Speaker 4: in the window. Over the door of the office. On
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  Speaker 4: the left was a lawyer shingle. The gold lettering was new.
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  Speaker 5: That's just why lawyer's belt. That's right.
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  Speaker 7: Name's Paul Wilson.
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  Speaker 6: Wilson.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, come into spectr vat him. Mister Wilson is the
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  Speaker 7: sergeant Friday ormera juvenal detail on the sign name in
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  Speaker 7: this case? All right, look at it, just look at it.
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  Speaker 5: Look at that, Joe. Yeah, paint all over everything. Look
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  Speaker 5: as I leather chairs ruined, the desk smeared with a
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  Speaker 5: stuff green paint.
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  Speaker 6: Looks like they threw it on the moped and rum
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  Speaker 6: soaked with it. The wall. Look, Joe, they even got
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  Speaker 6: the clock. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Take a good look. Remember it when you tag whoever
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  Speaker 7: did it?
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  Speaker 6: Lead your law books, mister Wilson.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I didn't have to do this Ford paint all over, Yes,
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  Speaker 4: when'd always happened some.
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  Speaker 8: Time last night found it this way when I came
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  Speaker 8: in this morning.
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  Speaker 5: Any idea who did it?
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  Speaker 7: That's why I called us, and we're gonna find out.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know who'd want to do a thing like this.
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  Speaker 5: Just open my office street.
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  Speaker 8: They just hung out machine.
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  Speaker 4: You just started practicing laws then, yes, sir, graduated from
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  Speaker 4: Loyal University Extension Division looking for office space for a
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  Speaker 4: long time.
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  Speaker 6: Was there anything taken?
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  Speaker 7: No, that's such a dirty, rotten thing up. Undoubtedly a kid.
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  Speaker 6: That's pretty vicious for a kid. Can you think of
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  Speaker 6: any enemies that you might have had?
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  Speaker 10: This wasn't No, sir, No one do a thing like this.
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  Speaker 10: Can't understand that. There's no reason for it that I
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  Speaker 10: can think of.
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  Speaker 5: Primary report shows they got in the back doors that
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  Speaker 5: ride my clothing.
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  Speaker 8: Can you come back here, I'll show you. M Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: here it is right here.
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  Speaker 10: See this used to be the kitchen when this was
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  Speaker 10: a flat. I was gonna put a hot plate in
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  Speaker 10: here for coffee.
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  Speaker 6: Nice.
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  Speaker 8: You can see where they cut through the screen door.
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  Speaker 7: It's all right, it's been checked.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I see any pass kid fit the
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  Speaker 4: inside door here?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, suh, that's right.
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  Speaker 7: Pull all the trail about green paint right from this
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  Speaker 7: door all the way through the house.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, how ever, get it all off.
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  Speaker 5: You know of any cleaners and.
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  Speaker 9: Handle things like this.
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  Speaker 5: We're not allowed to recommend anybody missed to Wilson. If
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  Speaker 5: you have somebody in mind, would be happy to call
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  Speaker 5: them for you.
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  Speaker 8: Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 8: I was gonna make some calls, but I haven't got
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  Speaker 8: my phone installed yet.
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  Speaker 7: That's the mate of the damage. About eighteen hundred dollars,
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  Speaker 7: all right, that's what I figure.
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  Speaker 9: Yes, my love books are over six hundred dollars alone.
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  Speaker 9: Borrowed the money from the bank for the furniture.
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  Speaker 4: You haven't noticed any kids in the neighborhood, and none
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  Speaker 4: of them around while you were moving in.
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  Speaker 8: No, I didn't see anything.
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  Speaker 10: I'd moved everything in myself, run the trailer, made several
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  Speaker 10: trips to get all over here.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, that was a silly thing to do.
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  Speaker 8: Why well, a store where I bought the furniture said
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  Speaker 8: they'd deliver it. I couldn't wait to see everything in
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  Speaker 8: first office.
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  Speaker 6: You know, yeah, we understand.
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  Speaker 10: Well, Like I said, I made several trips with the trailer,
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  Speaker 10: and I didn't lock the office each time. I left,
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  Speaker 10: didn't figure it was necessary. It fell across the hall
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  Speaker 10: with Jeweler said he keep an eye on things for me.
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  Speaker 10: But you did lock up last night?
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  Speaker 9: To me, oh yes, as soon.
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  Speaker 10: As I was moved in, I locked the place at
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  Speaker 10: all times when I wasn't here.
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  Speaker 5: That's it. I'll get right on.
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  Speaker 7: I don't have to tell you again. I want to
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  Speaker 7: fast answer.
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  Speaker 6: Where do we start?
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  Speaker 7: With an empty paid can.
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  Speaker 4: Before we left Attorney Paul Wilson, we took a sample
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  Speaker 4: scraping of the green paint to serve as a color check.
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  Speaker 6: We started to canvas the neighborhood door to door.
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  Speaker 4: We covered the area for a radius of six blocks,
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  Speaker 4: questioning the residents and checking out the youngsters. We failed
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  Speaker 4: to come up with anything. We figured another good angle
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  Speaker 4: was to try the schools in the area. We checked
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  Speaker 4: on the students who had been in any kind of
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  Speaker 4: trouble involving malicious pranks. We had the principals line their
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  Speaker 4: students up. We looked them all over thoroughly for any
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  Speaker 4: evidences of pain of any kind on their person or
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  Speaker 4: on their clothing.
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  Speaker 6: The few leads we found let nowhere.
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  Speaker 4: After a week without success, we went back and rechecked
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  Speaker 4: the neighborhood the paint stores to see if anyone had
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  Speaker 4: bought any green paint, anyone they might have forgotten to
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  Speaker 4: tell us about the first time through no leads Monday,
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  Speaker 4: April eighteenth, been a nice stop.
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  Speaker 6: For a coke at a hot dog stand in the
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  Speaker 6: corner of one hundred and third Note View Avenue.
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  Speaker 5: A couple of coke? Please you want to help sels in? Yeah? Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: here's want I don't see anymore. There's one land on
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  Speaker 5: the side. None over there but the grape.
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  Speaker 6: Oh where.
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  Speaker 5: Let me get it for it?
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  Speaker 6: Well? Things? Yeah? Good?
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  Speaker 5: Every time I think of that boy's office, it makes
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  Speaker 5: me sick. Yeah, if we could, if we could just
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  Speaker 5: get some kind of a leading, anything for a start, pardon,
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  Speaker 5: I'll be satisfied.
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  Speaker 6: There's nothing to work on us like stamming in the dark.
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  Speaker 5: Joe, Yeah, look down the street there. Hm, this is
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  Speaker 5: ten cann day. Everybody's gonna set out in front of
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  Speaker 5: the houses.
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  Speaker 6: It's worth a trying it.
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  Speaker 5: Let's try a place across the street and then work
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  Speaker 5: down the block.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 5: But I had a cousin moved down from San Francisco.
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  Speaker 5: It took him almost a year to get used to
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  Speaker 5: this ten kNs system here in La.
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  Speaker 6: That's so.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, up, plare to throw everything into one garbage can
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  Speaker 5: ten cans?
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  Speaker 6: No, I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, dads. My cousin never could get used to
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  Speaker 5: butting the cans out. The back yard was full up
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  Speaker 5: and bore his wife or mind and butt him out. Uh.
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  Speaker 5: Garbage kind of.
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  Speaker 6: Piled up to they wouldn't pick it up for the ten.
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  Speaker 5: Cans in it.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, I won't check these here? Can.
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  Speaker 5: I don't see any paint cans?
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  Speaker 6: None here either?
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  Speaker 5: How about those down there?
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  Speaker 6: Okay? Sure? Or get the box.
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  Speaker 5: Wonder fish?
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  Speaker 6: Is any good? What's that?
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  Speaker 5: Prune?
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  Speaker 6: You see a lot of empty bottles? Any paint cans? Uh?
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  Speaker 6: That's so. That's the way it went. Block after the block,
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  Speaker 6: house after house.
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  Speaker 4: We covered five blocks, checking the containers full of empty
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  Speaker 4: tin cans.
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  Speaker 6: Found a few paint cans.
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  Speaker 4: None of them the right color or any combinations that
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  Speaker 4: would go together to make.
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  Speaker 6: The right color.
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  Speaker 4: It was a tiring job, but we figured it was
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  Speaker 4: at least a place to start.
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  Speaker 5: Sure, a lot of cans here must be a new bride. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know is that anything?
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  Speaker 4: Ah?
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  Speaker 5: That's your.
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  Speaker 6: How about this?
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  Speaker 5: Huh? This was one gallon can green must ask police officers, ma'am,
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  Speaker 5: does empty pint can blong you?
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  Speaker 11: You can have it if you want.
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  Speaker 12: We threw it out.
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  Speaker 6: Do you have any children here, ma'am.
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  Speaker 11: Here's a boy he one year.
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  Speaker 5: Would you mind telling us what this paint was used for?
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  Speaker 11: We just moved here. Is there any law but throwing
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  Speaker 11: out paintcakes?
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  Speaker 6: Oh no, ma'am.
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  Speaker 5: We're investigating a case. Just like to know what the
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  Speaker 5: paint was used for.
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  Speaker 11: Did old man Boone send you over? Mister Boone, the
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  Speaker 11: man we're ready this us from.
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  Speaker 6: No, ma'am thought maybe it was him.
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  Speaker 11: He said we couldn't do any painting inside.
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  Speaker 6: And we don't know anything about that.
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  Speaker 11: You're sure I don't trust him, ma'am.
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  Speaker 5: You say the paint was used to redecorate.
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  Speaker 11: He's Comina shaw in here. See yeah, Carlos Steve my
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  Speaker 11: husband and told him you should have waited to Sunday.
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  Speaker 6: Whose idea was it to paint the bad Carlos.
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  Speaker 11: He's going to night to school learning English. If the
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  Speaker 11: teacher told him the best way to learn was to
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  Speaker 11: speak it around the house, he's better for the little
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  Speaker 11: one too. Well. Anyway, Carlos gets paid on Saturday night.
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  Speaker 11: Then he stops at the little place where the fallacy
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  Speaker 11: works well, has a little drink. He gets his cash there.
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  Speaker 11: When he came home, he said he was going to
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  Speaker 11: pend the bathroom for me. This is very a little good.
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  Speaker 11: I was in the kitchen and I yelled him to
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  Speaker 11: paint around the top, around the top. I said, like
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  Speaker 11: I said, it doesn't know English too good yet we
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  Speaker 11: have a green top.
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  Speaker 6: I see, well, thank you.
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  Speaker 11: He's going to clean the top next Saturday. We used
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  Speaker 11: to shower.
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  Speaker 5: Painted that too, didn't he?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 12: Man.
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  Speaker 6: I'm sorry of destruction.
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  Speaker 11: That's all right. I'm worried about next Saturday night. He's
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  Speaker 11: not telling what he's going to do with that pend.
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  Speaker 4: Remove four point thirty pm, we were no closer to
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  Speaker 4: finding out who spread that painter around a turn of
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  Speaker 4: the attorney's office than when we started. We continued checking
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  Speaker 4: the neighborhood, but we found nothing. A few minutes before five,
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  Speaker 4: we got a call to check back in with Inspector Bowling.
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  Speaker 5: Do any good out there? Nothing until we had a
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  Speaker 5: little action.
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  Speaker 7: A new one.
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  Speaker 5: You know what's that came in about an hour ago.
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  Speaker 7: Somebody poured kerosene on three palm trees and set them
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  Speaker 7: on fire, three trees, three different blocks. Man kept the
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  Speaker 7: fire department busy, tied up the traffic for several hours.
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  Speaker 7: I've sent additional juvenile cars out there to cover happened
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  Speaker 7: in the same general area as a paint job.
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  Speaker 6: When he leaves.
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  Speaker 7: Now, anyone who would smear paint over an office might
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  Speaker 7: set a palm tree on fire, same type of gag,
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  Speaker 7: malicious mischief.
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  Speaker 5: I think there's a connection between and two.
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  Speaker 7: Once anybody's guests paint routines a new one. So it's
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  Speaker 7: the palm trees both one time on the shots. Maybe
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  Speaker 7: the two connects somewhere along the line.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe we's got us stuff. We can't even find a
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  Speaker 4: place to begin.
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  Speaker 5: We've tried everything we know, starting again to more.
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  Speaker 7: It wasn't going to make that young laiyre for it
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  Speaker 7: any better.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, who you're taking down to the attention room?
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  Speaker 9: He does nut?
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  Speaker 7: All right, I'll see him, yeah right now. Sixteen year
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  Speaker 7: old boy out there says he's got to see me.
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  Speaker 6: He's like talking to him alone.
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  Speaker 5: No, that's all right, Tuesday, come in.
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  Speaker 13: You're the chief.
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  Speaker 7: My name is Bowling, Juvenile Bureau.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, could I talk to you alone. Well, these officers
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  Speaker 14: work with me, and you're talk in front of them. Son,
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  Speaker 14: I guess, sir, Come on over here. You want to
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  Speaker 14: sit down, son, I'd rather stand if it's okay?
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  Speaker 6: All right?
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  Speaker 7: What's on your mind?
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  Speaker 15: I want to confess?
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  Speaker 7: What do you want to confess?
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  Speaker 15: So I murdered somebody.
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  Speaker 2: You are listening to Dragnet actual case history. He's taken
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  Speaker 2: from official police files.
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  Speaker 3: Next week Thursday, August twenty fourth, drag Net will be
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  Speaker 3: heard one hour earlier at nine pm Eastern Daylight Saving time.
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  Speaker 4: Six pm, Monday, April eighteenth. The boy identified himself as
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  Speaker 4: Arnold Waterman, gave his ages sixteen. He told us that
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  Speaker 4: two days before, at ninety eighth Street and Second Avenue,
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  Speaker 4: he had shot a man to death and hidden his
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  Speaker 4: body in the basement of a house. He was taken
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  Speaker 4: the interrogation room, where a police donugrapher took his statement.
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  Speaker 4: Specter Bowling sent Ben and I out to check his story.
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  Speaker 4: Nine thirty pm. We drove back to Georgia Street juvel
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  Speaker 4: and went to the interrogation room.
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  Speaker 7: Arnold, Yes, sir, these two men have been out at
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  Speaker 7: ninety eighth Street and Second Avenue. Checking your story.
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  Speaker 15: Do you find a body.
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  Speaker 6: There's nobody out there.
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  Speaker 5: There should be.
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  Speaker 15: I put it in the cellar.
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  Speaker 4: There's no house out there. It's a vacant lot. We
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  Speaker 4: checked all the houses near there. You sure you kill somebody?
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  Speaker 15: Of course, I'm sure. I stole a gun. I shot
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  Speaker 15: him three times in the back.
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  Speaker 5: What'd you do with a gun?
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  Speaker 15: I threw it in West Lake Park?
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  Speaker 6: Where in the water.
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  Speaker 15: I ran in a boat and rowed out to the middle.
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  Speaker 15: That's where I threw it in.
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  Speaker 7: Why did you kill the man?
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  Speaker 15: I don't know. I didn't like him.
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  Speaker 4: Look, boy, you didn't kill anybody. There's nothing to back
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  Speaker 4: up your story. There's not an ounce of truth in it.
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  Speaker 15: How do you know you haven't found a body? Just wait,
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  Speaker 15: you'll find and then you'll see I killed him.
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  Speaker 5: Are Will you show us where you hit the body?
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  Speaker 15: Why should I? I told you can't find it.
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  Speaker 7: These men have gone over that entire area thoroughly. There's
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  Speaker 7: nobody out there, and you'll know it.
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  Speaker 15: You cops are funny. When somebody won't admit a murder,
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  Speaker 15: you keep asking questions until they do. I'm telling you
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  Speaker 15: I'll murdered somebody, and you keep trying to talk me
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  Speaker 15: out of it.
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  Speaker 6: If you can find one's shred of proof, might go
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  Speaker 6: along with you. You can't be convicted with that proof.
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  Speaker 15: How much do you need? You got my confession? I
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  Speaker 15: offered a sign it. They wouldn't let me. What more
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  Speaker 15: you need?
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  Speaker 6: You need a victim?
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  Speaker 15: If you know where to look, you could find it.
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  Speaker 5: We've looked every place you told us till you're lying
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  Speaker 5: to us.
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  Speaker 6: Huh why?
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  Speaker 15: I never liked the old man. I hated his wife.
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  Speaker 15: I killed her too. I wasn't going to tell you that.
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  Speaker 6: Where do you go to school?
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  Speaker 15: I quit school of self papers. I had to support
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  Speaker 15: my mother.
• 17:03
  Speaker 7: Where's your father?
• 17:04
  Speaker 15: I don't know. My mother wouldn't tell me. That's where
• 17:07
  Speaker 15: I'm at. The old man I killed selling papers.
• 17:09
  Speaker 8: He was my boss.
• 17:10
  Speaker 15: None of us liked him. Nobody had the nerve to
• 17:13
  Speaker 15: do it but me. The rest of the guys were scared,
• 17:15
  Speaker 15: but not me.
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: What was the old man's name?
• 17:17
  Speaker 15: I can't think of it right now.
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: He was your boss.
• 17:20
  Speaker 15: He never told us his name. We just worked for him.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: What'd you sell papers?
• 17:23
  Speaker 15: I don't remember. I had to sell papers. We were
• 17:27
  Speaker 15: going hungry. I couldn't stand seeing my mother starve.
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: Couldn't your father were.
• 17:30
  Speaker 15: I don't know where he is. I told you that
• 17:33
  Speaker 15: we tried to get on relief. They wouldn't let us.
• 17:36
  Speaker 15: I mean a lot of money selling papers. After a while,
• 17:38
  Speaker 15: we didn't need relief anymore. Made one hundred dollars a week.
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: Why are you lying to her?
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: Son?
• 17:42
  Speaker 15: Do you think I'm lying? Why don't you let me
• 17:44
  Speaker 15: go home?
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: We have anything to hold you for. You can go home, not.
• 17:46
  Speaker 15: Until I have a trial. I already call a lawyer.
• 17:49
  Speaker 15: He'll be over pretty soon.
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: I've sent for your mother, Arnold, she'll come down and
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: take you home.
• 17:54
  Speaker 15: I didn't want her to know anything about this. I
• 17:56
  Speaker 15: may have to go to the gas chamber. That would
• 17:58
  Speaker 15: make her feel bad. You shouldn't call her.
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: It's no use.
• 18:02
  Speaker 7: Let's go back to the office. There's mother ought to
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: be there by now, all right, merriw. You want to
• 18:05
  Speaker 7: stay with the boy?
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: A right?
• 18:06
  Speaker 15: You better go ound and find that body on Joe,
• 18:10
  Speaker 15: I kill that old man. You can't say I didn't.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: The boy's a pathological liar and it looks that way,
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: probably an inferiordy complex, and.
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: This is the way of making himself important.
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: But we all know he didn't kill anybody. But I
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: wonder if he'd got something else in his mind.
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: Now, how do you do here, missus Waterman?
• 18:28
  Speaker 13: Yes, inspect of bowling.
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: Ask ma'am missus Sergeant Friday, how do you do man?
• 18:32
  Speaker 13: How do you do? I have to excuse my appearance.
• 18:35
  Speaker 13: I slept a little late today.
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: We've got your boy down the hall. He's all right,
• 18:38
  Speaker 7: trying to get us to swallow a few tall stories.
• 18:40
  Speaker 13: Yeah, he's like that.
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: What do you tell him?
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: I'm trying to give us a story about killing somebody.
• 18:46
  Speaker 13: Well, I'm not surprised because in the first time never
• 18:50
  Speaker 13: understand that kid.
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: Has your boy ever been in an institution.
• 18:53
  Speaker 13: Missus Waterman, No, he's not bad. He just likes to
• 18:56
  Speaker 13: lie all the time. It's an awful liar. Went to
• 18:59
  Speaker 13: his high school principal the other day, told him his
• 19:00
  Speaker 13: father and I beat him and we wouldn't give him
• 19:02
  Speaker 13: any lunch money. Where is your He has the newspaper
• 19:05
  Speaker 13: concession on the railroad trains.
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: How often is he holl.
• 19:08
  Speaker 13: It's a week, sometimes every two weeks. It's the only
• 19:11
  Speaker 13: business he knows. Maybe that's the reason the kid's away is.
• 19:16
  Speaker 13: My mother always used to tell me a kid needs
• 19:18
  Speaker 13: his father, So whenever my hubby's home. He always does
• 19:21
  Speaker 13: the right thing. Arnold started telling these lies a long
• 19:25
  Speaker 13: time ago, and ever since his father found out he
• 19:28
  Speaker 13: he catches it good strapping, that's all a kid like
• 19:33
  Speaker 13: him understands. His father knows how to handle him. Every
• 19:36
  Speaker 13: lies he takes a strap to him.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: You think that's the best way to handle him, don't you?
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: Well, do you know what you're doing? Mister Waterman is
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: your son? But if you wouldn't mind a little advice,
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: do you mind my.
• 19:45
  Speaker 15: Telling you no, no, Well.
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: That boy needs care, and he needs it bad. A
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: strap's not the answer. He needs attention, good supervision, and
• 19:52
  Speaker 7: a lot of companionship. I'm not conducting a class in
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: child psychology, but care for that boy of yours. Care
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: for him before the state has.
• 19:58
  Speaker 13: To just those stories it is. That's what's wrong with him.
• 20:03
  Speaker 13: Kim on the other night, with a wareless tale ever heard,
• 20:06
  Speaker 13: said he threw green paint all over somebody's office.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: Ben and I drove out to the Waterman home. We
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: checked through the boys belongings. His mother showed us his room.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: In his closet we found a pair of corduroy trousers,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: a white t shirt, and other articles of his clothing
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: spattered with the same shade of green paint that had
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: been found in the office and furnishings of Attorney Paul Wilson.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: We asked him as Waterman, where our son Arnold was
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: on Sunday night, April ninth, the night that the office
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: had been broken into and smeared with paint. She told
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: us she didn't know, but that he came home that
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: night with paint on his clothing. Ben and I went
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: back to the office where we filed an application for
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: a petition and detention Section seven hundred SUBMWIC Malicious Mischief,
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: one count. Two days later, in juvenile court the calendar
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: was called. Arnold Waterman's name was first on the list.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: The judge, the subject, and all those concerned in the
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: case retired to the judge's private chambers.
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: Ben and I, Arnold Waterman and his mother.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: The subject was informed of his constitutional rights, and Judge
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Frank J.
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: Smith read the findings of our investigation.
• 21:05
  Speaker 9: And the llegers in this petition.
• 21:06
  Speaker 12: At an April ninth, at approximately eight thirty pm, you
• 21:09
  Speaker 12: enter the office of Attorney Paul Wilson at ninety two
• 21:12
  Speaker 12: eighteen West one hundred and third Street where you willfully
• 21:14
  Speaker 12: and without mister Wilson's permission, did maliciously damage his office
• 21:18
  Speaker 12: to the extent of approximately eighteen hundred dollars by pouring
• 21:21
  Speaker 12: paint over his rugs, finiture, books, and other articles in
• 21:24
  Speaker 12: his officers.
• 21:26
  Speaker 9: Is this too, Ronold? Yes, sir? Did you know mister Wilson?
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: No, I don't.
• 21:30
  Speaker 9: I'd like to know why you did that. I felt
• 21:33
  Speaker 9: like it. You have to give me a better answer
• 21:34
  Speaker 9: than that, Junctay.
• 21:36
  Speaker 15: What's the best I can do? That's good enough?
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: In it?
• 21:38
  Speaker 9: No, it isn't good enough.
• 21:39
  Speaker 12: We have a court room full of boys outside who
• 21:42
  Speaker 12: probably want to be helped, and we're going to try
• 21:43
  Speaker 12: to help them.
• 21:44
  Speaker 9: We can't help you unless you want to be helped.
• 21:47
  Speaker 15: You don't want to help me. You don't believe anything.
• 21:49
  Speaker 9: I tell you.
• 21:50
  Speaker 12: I'll surprise, Yes, sure, you and Officer Romero investigated this
• 21:55
  Speaker 12: case from its inception with you as a result of
• 21:57
  Speaker 12: your investigation, what's your opinion of this boys truthfulness?
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: Well, you're honor.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: I think I can speak for Officer Romero here as well.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: In all our talks with the boy and our observations
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: of them, it's our opinion for what it's worth the
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: boys a pathological liar, basically seems to have the makings
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: of a good youngster. His environment's bad. Seems to have
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: very little, if any, parental guidance. Tells lies your honor,
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: lots of them.
• 22:23
  Speaker 9: That seems to be everyone's opinion.
• 22:24
  Speaker 15: It's not mine. If you'd spend more time trying to
• 22:27
  Speaker 15: find out if I'm lion instead of trying to put
• 22:29
  Speaker 15: me on the spot, you earn your money.
• 22:30
  Speaker 12: Your stories have been thoroughly investigated and double checked by
• 22:33
  Speaker 12: competent police officers. There is absolutely no basis of truth
• 22:37
  Speaker 12: in anything you've said.
• 22:38
  Speaker 15: I'm getting second ton of everybody calling me a liar.
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: Do you hear me?
• 22:43
  Speaker 9: Young man? Sit down in that chair.
• 22:48
  Speaker 12: We review a great many juvenile cases here in my
• 22:51
  Speaker 12: private chambers, but that does not all of the fact that.
• 22:54
  Speaker 9: You are in a court of law.
• 22:57
  Speaker 12: You will lower your voice, speak and a gentlemanly and
• 23:00
  Speaker 12: tell the truth. Is that understood?
• 23:03
  Speaker 9: Yes, sir, Missus Wadham, Could you give this card any
• 23:08
  Speaker 9: reason for your son's behavior.
• 23:10
  Speaker 13: I'm a mystery to me and Judge Fred that's his father.
• 23:13
  Speaker 13: He can't understand it either. He's always lied. His father
• 23:16
  Speaker 13: beats him for it. I guess he'll always lie.
• 23:19
  Speaker 9: That's all you can say, and your son's.
• 23:20
  Speaker 13: Behal What else is there to say? He's a liar?
• 23:23
  Speaker 12: I'm going to ask you once more, why did you
• 23:25
  Speaker 12: sneer paint all over at tourney.
• 23:27
  Speaker 9: Paul Wilson's office? I didn't like him? Why didn't you
• 23:29
  Speaker 9: like him? I didn't like him?
• 23:31
  Speaker 15: That's all tall, skinny funny with him.
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: Guy?
• 23:33
  Speaker 9: You mean you destroyed his property because you didn't like
• 23:35
  Speaker 9: his looks?
• 23:36
  Speaker 15: Something like that? He was cheap. I saw him moving in.
• 23:39
  Speaker 15: He had a trailer. He was moving his own stuff in.
• 23:42
  Speaker 15: Why didn't he hire a mover like everybody else? I
• 23:44
  Speaker 15: don't like cheap people. Do you know anything about this man?
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: Or was who? No business was it of yours?
• 23:50
  Speaker 12: Whether or not mister Wilson decided to move his own furnitures.
• 23:53
  Speaker 9: Do you know that?
• 23:54
  Speaker 12: He's a young man, not much older than you, just
• 23:56
  Speaker 12: graduated from law school, took a lot of time, took
• 23:58
  Speaker 12: a lot of his money, money that he earned to
• 24:00
  Speaker 12: put himself through school.
• 24:01
  Speaker 9: And you sit there and mere sketch a boy passing
• 24:03
  Speaker 9: judgment on a fine young man like Paul. Isn't boy?
• 24:07
  Speaker 9: Let me tell you something.
• 24:09
  Speaker 12: I don't know if you're a god fearing lad or not,
• 24:11
  Speaker 12: but you better fall on your knees and ask forgiveness
• 24:13
  Speaker 12: and hope that somebody hears you. But he hasn't lost
• 24:16
  Speaker 12: patience with you. You better raise up those sights of yours,
• 24:19
  Speaker 12: lad and pray for forgiveness.
• 24:24
  Speaker 9: Hope those tears mean something out Now. Do you have
• 24:27
  Speaker 9: anything to say before I pass judgment on this case?
• 24:31
  Speaker 15: Yes, sir, I have. I like to tell you about
• 24:34
  Speaker 15: something else I did. There were some palm trees out there.
• 24:38
  Speaker 15: I put kerosene on him and set him on fire.
• 24:41
  Speaker 9: Oh it's Friday. Would you know anything about that?
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: Yes, your honor. That checks with the reports.
• 24:45
  Speaker 9: Any property damage.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: ELI kept the Friday department pretty busy.
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: It's about all.
• 24:50
  Speaker 15: I didn't kill anybody. I just made that up.
• 24:52
  Speaker 9: Yes, we know. Un Do you have anything else to add?
• 24:55
  Speaker 9: This is what No.
• 24:57
  Speaker 13: I don't know what else you can do with a
• 24:59
  Speaker 13: kid somebody else's problem.
• 25:01
  Speaker 12: According to the findings of the probationary officers and the
• 25:03
  Speaker 12: investigating officers, and what I've heard and observed in these chambers,
• 25:07
  Speaker 12: I have no alternative but to remove this boy from
• 25:09
  Speaker 12: his present home and environment and place him in a
• 25:12
  Speaker 12: foster home where he will receive closer supervision in the
• 25:15
  Speaker 12: care that he requires. Does that meet with your approval?
• 25:18
  Speaker 12: Missus Lorman?
• 25:19
  Speaker 13: It's fine with me, Judge cut and I can hardly
• 25:22
  Speaker 13: make ends meet now. It's ashamed to waste what money
• 25:24
  Speaker 13: we have on this kid. So I can do to
• 25:27
  Speaker 13: squeeze off a new clothes I.
• 25:28
  Speaker 9: Need, and you approve this player.
• 25:30
  Speaker 13: You can't wait to tell Fred.
• 25:32
  Speaker 12: Well, when you tell Fred, you can also tell him
• 25:35
  Speaker 12: the taxpayers are not going to assume the burden of.
• 25:37
  Speaker 9: The mistakes that you and your husband lavished.
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: On this boy.
• 25:41
  Speaker 9: What do you mean, Judge expensive?
• 25:43
  Speaker 12: Placing the boy in this foster home comes to the
• 25:45
  Speaker 12: amount of thirty five dollars a month.
• 25:47
  Speaker 9: You and your husband will pay this sum. The law
• 25:49
  Speaker 9: covers that it's.
• 25:50
  Speaker 13: An a lot of money.
• 25:52
  Speaker 12: The payment will be due on the first day of
• 25:54
  Speaker 12: each month. You will meet this requirement or be held
• 25:56
  Speaker 12: in contempt at court. I'm only sorry that as far
• 26:00
  Speaker 12: the law goes, the laws of the State of California
• 26:03
  Speaker 12: do not make the parents responsible for the thoughts of
• 26:05
  Speaker 12: their children unless contributory negligence can be proven. My eyes,
• 26:10
  Speaker 12: it is contributory negligence on your part not. Unfortunately, it
• 26:14
  Speaker 12: cannot be proven any false that this boy may have yours.
• 26:19
  Speaker 9: You as a parent, irresponsible.
• 26:21
  Speaker 13: We did the best. We couldn't raise in the kid.
• 26:23
  Speaker 9: Madame, you didn't raise them.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Hearing the Smith, the story you have just heard was true,
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: only the names were changed to protect the innocent.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: On April eighteenth, the hearing was held in the private
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: chambers of Judge Frank J. Smith, Juvenile Court, City and
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: County of Los Angeles, State of California. You have just
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: heard the results of that hearing.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Next week, Thursday, August twenty one four, Dragnet will be
• 27:01
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• 27:13
  Speaker 2: You have just heard Dragnet a series of authentic cases
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: from official files. Technical advice for Dragnet comes from the
• 27:20
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• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Police Department.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Now Here Sarah's Private Caper September seventh, It's Bob or
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Noah's Best on NBC.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Welcome Back, Jack Webb or Jim Moser. One really loved
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: the name Frank Smith. I think this is the second
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: or third Ben Romero era character to be named Frank Smith,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: so it was an obvious natural choice for a name
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: for Joe Friday's partner later on, but must have made
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: naming other characters more challenging. I do have to admit
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: that I can understand the mother's perspective that the boy
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: being a pathological liar made it hard to believe him.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: But if he said he splattered paint all over someone's
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: office and his clothes are all covered in paint, that
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: right there is confirmation. The highlight of the episode was
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: the juvenile court hearing in the judge's chambers. What made
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Dragnet so interesting is that it took you to places
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: that the general public doesn't get to see, and certainly
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: the chambers of a juvenile court judge fall into that category.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: I really enjoyed her Butterfield as the judge. His portrayal
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: manages to have the judge being both thoroughly professional and
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: also brutally honest. It also represents Dragnet's general philosophy on kids.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: The series is maligned as hard on youth in general
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: and all that, where I think they are far more
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: concerned with absent to your irresponsible parenting which leads to delinquency,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: and that it certainly reflects the experience of a lot
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: of police officers. Well, now it is time to thank
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• 31:01
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• 31:05
  Speaker 1: of the Fall.
• 31:06
  Speaker 16: Can Wear went to the door, opened it, and then
• 31:11
  Speaker 16: he saw someone in the hall.
• 31:13
  Speaker 15: They had a few words, and then there was a shot.
• 31:16
  Speaker 16: What words I don't remember exactly. He said something like,
• 31:21
  Speaker 16: oh with you, and she said, yes, surprised, isn't it?
• 31:27
  Speaker 16: I think that's what it was, you say, she said,
• 31:30
  Speaker 16: He answer, it was a woman's voice, but you didn't
• 31:31
  Speaker 16: see it.
• 31:32
  Speaker 13: No, he was in the way.
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: O where were you?
• 31:35
  Speaker 15: Right over here?
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: That's funny? What is?
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: And he blocked your view of the doorway.
• 31:40
  Speaker 17: You say he dropped immediately when he was shot, and
• 31:42
  Speaker 17: you haven't touched anything that's right on the block your view.
• 31:45
  Speaker 17: He would have had to be standing in the doorway
• 31:48
  Speaker 17: and he fell forward because he's lying on his face,
• 31:50
  Speaker 17: so he should have fallen into the hall and steadies
• 31:53
  Speaker 17: in the room into the side of the door so
• 31:54
  Speaker 17: that we can swing it open and close without hitting him.
• 31:57
  Speaker 16: Maybe he's staggered back.
• 31:58
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