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Stop Saying Gretchers (RHOC Recap) · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

• 0:12
  Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Welcome to another episode of Diamonds in the
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  Speaker 1: Rough with myself Teddy Mellencamp.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Erica Jane.
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  Speaker 1: Hi, Erica Jane. What's new?
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  Speaker 2: No, what's new with you?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: No, tell it, tell it, say it again, say it again.
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  Speaker 1: Gosh. Well I am cancer free. Fuck yeah, cancer free.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to say that I'm in re messed
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  Speaker 1: until after three years of no detectable cancer. Okay, I'm
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  Speaker 1: cancer free. I'm still on immuno therapy, but I am
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  Speaker 1: feeling so much relief.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure. Yeah, I am sure. As your friend, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, as the people around you like not to
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  Speaker 2: make it about us, but like we're relieved.
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  Speaker 1: To Yeah, I mean, no, it into of disease.
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  Speaker 2: Cool. Well, that has to feel like a weight has
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  Speaker 2: been lifted off your heart and just everything.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I can say I was doing all the things.
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  Speaker 1: I was praying, I was you know, on my hands
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  Speaker 1: and knees, of course, hoping, I was crying, I was laughing,
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  Speaker 1: I was doing all the things that I could possibly
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  Speaker 1: think of to try to get through it. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: being able to have this news is huge.
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  Speaker 2: It's huge news.
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  Speaker 1: It's huge.
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  Speaker 2: It's huge.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, when they said that one you're part
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  Speaker 1: of the one percenter?
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  Speaker 2: I did you burst into tears?
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  Speaker 1: I was numb?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I get that.
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  Speaker 1: I was numb. Like when the doctor said it to me.
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  Speaker 1: I was in the in the room at the doctor's office, myself,
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  Speaker 1: Edwin and my dad's assistant. Yeah, and like I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: They both got a and I was.
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  Speaker 2: Like, right, well, it's I mean through hell yeah, like real,
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  Speaker 2: I I would be too. I'm sure that this is
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  Speaker 2: like it's it's all overwhelming.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I was in complete shock, but I'm really
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  Speaker 1: happy now. I'm still having those days of being emotional,
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  Speaker 1: but they're getting lighter and lighter.
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  Speaker 2: How is it. Have you felt the internet? Have you
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  Speaker 2: felt excuse me, have you felt the medication starting to
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  Speaker 2: kick in?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Good? Thank god. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not necessarily that I'm not having anxiety anymore.
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  Speaker 1: It said, I'm not having like crying breakdowns.
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  Speaker 2: That's good. Yeah, you're more even.
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  Speaker 1: I'm more even.
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  Speaker 2: That's perfect. So that's kind And I'm sure this good
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  Speaker 2: news really helps out out.
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  Speaker 1: The good news really does help.
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  Speaker 2: So are you going to tell me about the guy?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? My gosh, I forgot you met him before he
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  Speaker 1: was lovely. I know he was a nice guy.
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  Speaker 2: Remember, because I met him right when all the ship
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  Speaker 2: hit the fan, right after you got home from the
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  Speaker 2: hospital and started dating and and he was really kind
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  Speaker 2: and then he went away for a while. But now
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  Speaker 2: he's back.
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  Speaker 1: He's back. We just started kind of talking again as friends,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, we're just keeping it casual. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: the only way I can do this is if it's casual, right,
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  Speaker 1: I can't give more than.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and you shouldn't because you know, you're really you're
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  Speaker 2: going i mean, your body, your whole life, like everything
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  Speaker 2: is completely changed and you you can only give what
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  Speaker 2: you got their limits, yeah, yeah, boundaries like and you
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  Speaker 2: need them.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, and do you understand that? And he's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I do. And you could have just said that before.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't need to end things completely.
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  Speaker 2: Is that what he said? How that make you feel?
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, because I was. I mean
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  Speaker 1: I was brutal when I you know, I just ended
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  Speaker 1: it one day like there was no discussion, and I was.
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  Speaker 2: Just, well, that's understandable. I mean, you're going through like
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  Speaker 2: the worst thing ever in your life.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, But then you know, I was like Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: this time around, you know, you can date other people.
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  Speaker 1: I can date other people. Let's just have fun. Let's
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  Speaker 1: see where it goes. It has to be casual. If
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  Speaker 1: you're not game for the following then.
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  Speaker 2: And he said okay, yeah, all right.
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  Speaker 1: He said, okay. He's like, I'm just so happy that
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  Speaker 1: you're feeling good.
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  Speaker 2: See he's a This guy's a nice This guy's a
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  Speaker 2: nice guy.
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  Speaker 1: I know he's getting some hell for his mustache that
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  Speaker 1: he had in the picture.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's all the hell you're getting is for a mustache.
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  Speaker 2: Right on. You're doing something right?
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  Speaker 1: What about you? What about? What's the update on your life?
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  Speaker 2: My life is really nice. I was. I was in
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  Speaker 2: Panama last week and I received some stem cells at
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  Speaker 2: this incredible clinic called Origins, and they're doing some incredible
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  Speaker 2: work there. It was like probably one of the best
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  Speaker 2: trips I've ever had. That's awesome my entire life. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: John and I went. He actually took me there, and
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  Speaker 2: first off, Panama is amazing and Origins the stem cell
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  Speaker 2: clinic is unreal. So it was like two for one
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  Speaker 2: and he and I had like a really nice trip.
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  Speaker 1: Like dates and like dates and.
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  Speaker 2: Like dinners and like holding hands and like walking around
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  Speaker 2: the old city of Panama and like it was so
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  Speaker 2: lovely to be there was nobody that Yeah, I was
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  Speaker 2: able to be and just sort of clear my mind
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  Speaker 2: and I was really happy there, which makes me think.
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  Speaker 1: Like, hmmmmm, hmm what does that say for sometimes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like is this am I doing all I can
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  Speaker 2: do around here? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: Like I think the next chapter of like my life,
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  Speaker 2: certainly you're like, I mean it's up it's really up
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  Speaker 2: for grabs. Yeah, it's really up for grabs. Like I
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  Speaker 2: just don't know, well, none of us really know, but
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  Speaker 2: I just don't know what's coming. And sometimes that's okay.
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  Speaker 2: And but there are a lot of options, I guess,
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  Speaker 2: is what I'm really trying to say, a lot of options.
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  Speaker 1: And when we're going through options, and I'm sure everyone listening,
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  Speaker 1: when you're going through options, when you're going through changes,
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  Speaker 1: when you're deciding, it's can be tricky because we all
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  Speaker 1: want to be happy. Yes, that's yes, that's the end goal,
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes we get stuck or lost trying to find
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  Speaker 1: that happiness.
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  Speaker 2: And I was wondering if I one of the questions
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  Speaker 2: I had and one of the things that he and
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  Speaker 2: I were talking about. I was like, have I been
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  Speaker 2: pushing something that's you know, pushing in my life, something
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  Speaker 2: that's just not right, you know, just like and this
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  Speaker 2: comes back to the age old, like what do I
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  Speaker 2: want out of this life?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: And what do I want out of the next few
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  Speaker 2: years of my life? What can I do what makes
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  Speaker 2: me truly happy? And I want inner peace. I want
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  Speaker 2: peace after these last five years, as I'm sure you
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  Speaker 2: do too. And now it's like, you know, we both
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  Speaker 2: want inner peace. We both want peace for different reasons.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know, that's.
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  Speaker 1: My And then did he come back here? You?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's here, which is really nice. Yes, And then
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  Speaker 2: when do I get to meet him? Probably next time
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  Speaker 2: he's out because he leaves soon. Okay, yeah, but you
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  Speaker 2: got you will like him.
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  Speaker 1: He's very sweet.
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  Speaker 2: He's very sweet, man. I know, it's cool.
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  Speaker 1: That's good. I love doing that. One of the best
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  Speaker 1: trips of your life.
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  Speaker 2: That's a big statement, very big, because I've had some
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  Speaker 2: good ones. And I looked at him and I said, like,
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  Speaker 2: I was there. I was like some of the best
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  Speaker 2: trips in my entire life. He was like familiar. I said, yes,
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  Speaker 2: this is amazing.
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  Speaker 1: I love that.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so happy.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Well, I can tell that you really loved
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  Speaker 2: this episode. You know what can we say? Okay, So
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  Speaker 2: it opens up with the teas of a camera, Katie,
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  Speaker 2: sit down, tell me immediate thoughts, just your boom instinct,
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  Speaker 2: go what do you think?
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  Speaker 1: I was hoping Katie was going to bring more okay
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  Speaker 1: to the conversation.
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  Speaker 2: More meaning, like what is your definition of more? Just
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  Speaker 2: so everybody couldna.
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  Speaker 1: I just felt like she came in and she was
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  Speaker 1: the same. I think she was emotional in general because
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  Speaker 1: of what was going on in the show. Sure, and
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  Speaker 1: so I think she came in not in a position
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  Speaker 1: of strength, not being able to speak the truth.
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  Speaker 2: What is the truth though, because I'm confused.
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  Speaker 1: I'm confused on the truth. But my guess is that yes,
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  Speaker 1: Katie knew, and she knew from Gretchen and Slide right.
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  Speaker 1: And I think whatever else happened after that, whether she
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  Speaker 1: told Kiki, Monique, whether so and so told no matter.
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  Speaker 2: What saw water under the bridge, the important part is
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  Speaker 2: that she knew from Gretchen and Slade.
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  Speaker 1: She knew from gretchenslide and so I think Tamar got
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  Speaker 1: that out. But do you think the other women had
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  Speaker 1: a right to be upset with Tama for meeting with her.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody's entitled to their own feelings. But at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the day, look, yeah, I mean, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 2: they have a right to feel however they want to feel.
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  Speaker 2: But it's also Tamor's right to do whatever they are
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  Speaker 2: on the show, and sometimes your feelings get pushed to
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  Speaker 2: the side, even if.
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  Speaker 1: It's and correct me if I'm wrong. Did Tamar even
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  Speaker 1: talk to her about anybody else? But what was going
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  Speaker 1: on with her?
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  Speaker 2: Not that I recall, but yeah somebody, No, not that
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  Speaker 2: I recall.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not like she was bringing the other women
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  Speaker 1: into it.
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  Speaker 2: No. I did find it interesting though, that Matt spoke
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  Speaker 2: to Slade or that how all of the text messages,
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  Speaker 2: Like I guess Slade was working Matt, Katie's husband, working
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  Speaker 2: him and working him, And when I say working him,
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  Speaker 2: I mean contacting him over and over and then all
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden it was like radio silence. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's not the best look for Slade and Gretchen here.
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  Speaker 2: It's just not And I don't particularly like Katie because
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  Speaker 2: I do think that she's not telling the truth here,
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  Speaker 2: not telling.
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  Speaker 1: The truth and you don't think that Gretchen and Slade
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  Speaker 1: told her or not telling the truth about a billion
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  Speaker 1: of the other things.
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  Speaker 2: She has billion of the other things. I think that
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of things here. She problem is there's
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  Speaker 2: a kernel of the truth in here, But which one
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  Speaker 2: is it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: You know, she's you know, not one hundred percent full
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  Speaker 2: of shit, but there's there are holes in this story,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, like it is what it is. Fucked.
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  Speaker 1: Then Emily and Gretchen meet to look for cowboy hats
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  Speaker 1: for Emily's Emily's Innocent Center fundraiser and the Exonerated Anthony.
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  Speaker 2: Which was really touching. I really like Emily in this
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  Speaker 2: role because she using her legal education for something that's
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  Speaker 2: really good. I mean, there are people that are wrongfully
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  Speaker 2: convicted and it can happen, and believe me, it's rough.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that about my family, so don't
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  Speaker 2: get it twisted. I'm talking about other people. I think
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  Speaker 2: that it's wonderful that she does this. I was thinking
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  Speaker 2: that we might have been at the bootleg Kimo Sabi.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking, Right, are.
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: We at the bootleg Kimo Sabi? They had an OC location.
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  Speaker 2: Found out it wasn't. But hey, Kimo Sabi, you've got
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: a competitor in Orange County and they have the same
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: stuff and I don't know what the price is.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: We got to get Kyle on it. Yeah, same by
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  Speaker 2: the fucking peak.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I thought they were going to do a
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  Speaker 1: Chemo Sabby and Beverly Hills.
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  Speaker 2: They were.
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  Speaker 1: I think I heard that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my wait, is Kyle opening the store? Is she
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  Speaker 2: like going to christen the store? Definitely? When I went
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  Speaker 2: with her this summer when she and I went to
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  Speaker 2: her house and she took me to Kimo Savii right
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  Speaker 2: because you know, we had blowout years ago, and I
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  Speaker 2: put this I don't know what's it called, the thing
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  Speaker 2: on the hat and I was like, oh, I'll take
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  Speaker 2: this one, and she goes, no, you won't. It's like
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  Speaker 2: a five thousand dollars thing. She's like, no, you won't.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, what's wrong? Did you look at that tag?
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  Speaker 2: It was good? Look it out, but it was funny.
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  Speaker 1: I mean some of them.
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  Speaker 2: It was expensive, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: Well. They also did a knockoff Chemo Sabby for at
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  Speaker 1: Alexis Bollino.
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  Speaker 2: And oh how'd that go?
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  Speaker 1: Tamra said, the wedding was nice. Went, Yeah, Tamra went.
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  Speaker 2: Was she the only one from the cast that went?
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  Speaker 1: She was the only one from the cast. Joe from
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  Speaker 1: season one was there?
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  Speaker 2: Sure? Whatever?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Had they got invited but didn't go?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she had something for her daughter.
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  Speaker 2: That's okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know it's what it is. But Emily
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  Speaker 1: downloads Gretchen about Tamor's spring fling. She says Tamra left
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  Speaker 1: the room at least five times.
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  Speaker 2: First off, Emily is saying that Gretchen has on prairiewear
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  Speaker 2: or Oregon trailwear. I mean I liken it too. That
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  Speaker 2: what was that LDS that crazy guy with like the
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  Speaker 2: the Mormon shit. Oh yeah, I liken it. That prairie
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  Speaker 2: where Oregon trailwear. Perfect, Emily. I love that.
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  Speaker 1: I know she made me laugh at that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great.
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  Speaker 1: But I love the Tamra I will never film again.
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  Speaker 1: And then the narrator she did and indeed film again.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, here's the thing, like we have this on
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  Speaker 2: our show, see the quitting and the walking off, and
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  Speaker 2: I've wanted to quit, you know inside, but it's it's
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  Speaker 2: hard because then you're standing around waiting, and I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: what do you think about Tama meeting with Katie.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't. It didn't bother me, right that she met
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  Speaker 1: with her. I mean Katie was a housewife.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we've all had to do things like this.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of like it is what it is.
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  Speaker 1: Katie was a housewife. So I didn't really have a
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  Speaker 1: problem with it. I just thought we didn't get much
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  Speaker 1: from it. No, So that's where.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, what were you hoping for?
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  Speaker 1: I was hoping for, like a real conversation from Katie, Like, Hey, Tamra,
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  Speaker 1: I am sorry. I spread the rumor that Gretchen and
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  Speaker 1: Slade told me I apologize to you for that, and
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  Speaker 1: but it did happen, right, But there was none of that, No, No,
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  Speaker 1: there was just the Gretchen side. But like, Katie still
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  Speaker 1: has things to apologize for. Of course, do you think
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  Speaker 1: she'll even know? Do you think she has the bandwidth
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  Speaker 1: to know that she should be apologizing for that?
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  Speaker 2: If she's smart and she looked back at what was
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  Speaker 2: if she watched the show like maybe last season in
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  Speaker 2: these episodes, yeah, she would see that she has some
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  Speaker 2: stuff to apologize for. But everybody's different. You know how
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  Speaker 2: these personalities are. Yeah, some people can say, hey, I
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  Speaker 2: fucked up, and other people cannot see it, don't want
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  Speaker 2: to see it, even when they're closest to say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you really should like take ownership of this and.
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  Speaker 1: You know it.
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  Speaker 2: It always fascinates me the people that you think would
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  Speaker 2: know what to do in these situations, like when you
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  Speaker 2: were one and one person would not admit that they
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: had done something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're just I can't believe it.
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  Speaker 2: You can't believe it. It's like, come on, like you know.
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  Speaker 1: I think Katie has some apologies she needs to make
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  Speaker 1: to Emily. I think Katie needs to apologize to Tamra
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  Speaker 1: for spreading that rumor, for spreading that rumor.
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  Speaker 2: Emily about the whole dot the babysitting, babysitting.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think she needs to necessarily
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  Speaker 1: apologize to Jen because I think Jen is a part
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  Speaker 1: of all of this. With Gretchen insight, she.
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  Speaker 2: Does play a part. Yeah, here's the thing. I would
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  Speaker 2: make a blanket apology if I were Katie to the
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  Speaker 2: cast for dragging in bloggers and dragging in other things
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  Speaker 2: outside of the show, because this is where it gets sticky. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: instead of keeping it in house and keeping it inside
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  Speaker 2: the cast, when you start talking to outside you know, people,
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  Speaker 2: as innocent as it may seem, this isn't a thing
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  Speaker 2: about anybody. It's just that when you start going out
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  Speaker 2: and saying things that we're not supposed to be saying
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  Speaker 2: and dragging other people in, now you've fucked up. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that's just the way I see it. You've
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  Speaker 2: muddied the waters. These people are not part of the show.
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  Speaker 2: They have their own things to do, they have their
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  Speaker 2: own accounts, they're running their own stuff. But when you're
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  Speaker 2: talking to cast members and you're trying to put stories
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  Speaker 2: out there and you're trying to do things like that,
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  Speaker 2: it puts it in. It all ends up splashing back
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  Speaker 2: on you. Yeah, meaning Katie at this point.
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  Speaker 1: But then when Emily tells Gretchen she's pissed at Tamara
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: that she's meeting with Katie, Gretchen tells Emily she's a shitster,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: and Emily says Gretchen is the one who brought it
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: up something to Famatory about Tamra. This is true, this
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: is true, And then Gretchen pulls up an article from
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: two thousand and seven to seem.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Really where I At this point, I checked out. I
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: was like, gonna want to hear about twenty seventeen. No,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: I don't care about twenty seventeen. I don't want the article.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: I don't care that it was Vicky. I don't give
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: a shit. Let's stay in the present moment, Like I
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: just I'm tired of that. Yeah, I'm even tired that
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: we're discussing that Tamara may or may not have made
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: out with some dude. What is it twenty years ago?
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's beyond me. But the fact that
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Gretchen can't even take can't even admit that she was
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: shit stirring? Why can't Why can't she admit that?
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Just say yeah I did it.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: And yeah I did it. I brought up the guy,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: and then I brought up you know, the alleged that
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: didn't happen affair. I also brought up the singing. I
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: also brought up this, and then I tried to clean
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: it up the next day when I wasn't tipsy, like
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: why not just say well?
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Then she tried to throw it off on slave.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, then she tried to blame slave.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Then she tried to blame Slade and I wonder how
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: that works out at home.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I wonder how I wonder if the guys are going
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: to be one do you think the husband's are going
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: to be at the read?
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Andy Cohen, he'd love to have them over there. That's
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: no shade to the boss, but he does love it
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: when the husband's slash boyfriends get involved.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: But something else, I know, not you, but them.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: M h.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing, Emily. You can't comment on tamor
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: running out of a scene and then run out of
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: a scene.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Well that's the thing, ladies. We need to stick it
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: out as much as possible. Stop running for the hills,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: just break down in front of us.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Just you know what I'm saying, Just right there. I've
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: done it many a time, embarrassed myself, you know, for years.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: But meanwhile, Tama meets with Gina before Heather joins.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: I actually thought, if I'm right, I thought Gina was
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: pretty good in here.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: I did too.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I thought she was good in here. Yeah. I thought
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: she was good at explaining it and keeping it all together.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I liked Gina in here.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. She says she understands that Tamar is struggling, and
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: then Heather joins them, and re explains to Tamar that
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: she loves her and is sorry that Tamor's hurt, But
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: she also calls Gretchen out, how hurt would you be
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: if I said that I trusted you the least?
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: I would be hurt. Yeah, I would be hurt. But
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: also I'd have to look at my behavior and say,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: what have I done to make these women feel this way?
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: And you know, Tamra's not without some questionable.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Right, But the one thing that we can say about
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Tamor she mainly she's not making up shit.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: She's not making up shit. She's just gonna fucking nail
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: you with it. She may nail you with it, right, So,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: but I don't know, but I have to. But this
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: is why you don't. It is hard to trust in
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: these things. Yeah, it's hard to trust because it's not
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: in anybody's best interest to keep a secret.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: But I can only kind of parallel it to let's say,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: you and Renna. Yeah, and all of a sudden, we're
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: playing that game and everybody at the table sitting around
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: talking about who do you trust the least?
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: And you said, Renna, oh, she would be ready to
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: kill me. She would be ready to kill me and
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: rightfull Lisa, like, I don't know how close. Well here's
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: the other thing too, I don't know how close Heather
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: and Tamra are. And I know they spent a lot
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: of years to get But that doesn't necessarily mean that
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: you're super tight on a show, you know, I don't know.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I guess that's really a thing for them, and I
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: don't know that we'll get that. I'm sure we'll get
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: that at the at the reunion. I'm sure that's going
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: to come up.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure that's going to come up.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I mean Emily's saying it wasn't a shock to me.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: No, and that's okay. It's the Heather piece. Yeah, that's
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: the Heather that's more powerful than Emily. Yeah. Remember when
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Heathery called Tamera a historical friend at the last reunion
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: and then we didn't even know what that meant. We
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: had to look it up. Yeah, which means we have history,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: not necessarily deep trust. Right.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: But then it's like, as you continue on, out of
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: all of these other women, that's who you trust the least,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: the one that you have them you.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Know the most. Yeah, the one that you spent the
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: most time with. Well, there's two ways to take that.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: There's two ways to take that. You know. You can
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: look at it as like you know, no I don't,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: or maybe you know. That's why something like this is
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: really hard to get a You can get a reactionary judgment,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: which you can't get a full picture because we don't
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: have it.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't have a full picture. And we also
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: don't have a like a real conversation between Heather and
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Tarma discussing their friendship.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: No, well we know that. Well, we do know that.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Tamra said, oh I heard you were afraid of me
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: and shit like that, and so that's not the way
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: to anybody's heart. No, that's not the way to get
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Heather to open up to you and say, hey, look
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: when you do these things. This is why I say
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: I don't trust you. Yeah, because Tamra. Because Heather's not
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: going to engage Tamra like that.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: No, whenever tamar gets upset, whenever she gets to that
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: that heightened state, Heather retreats.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's not going to get she's not going to
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: get messy like that.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: But I feel like this is the first time we
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: see anybody like Gina. She's stepping in and I liked
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: her here, Yeah, I liked her. She's having her back.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: She's saying, like, listen, I know you're going through a
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: rough time. And regardless of what the rough time is about,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: which I think you know, that's what's coming out a lot.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: If somebody is struggling, if they're struggling with anxiety or
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: depression or whatever it may be, regardless of the reason why,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: you have to have some empathy for that person. You do.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: You have to give them a little bit of space,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: and you don't. It's not really up to us to
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: point out who knows why people are struggling? Yeah, nine
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: times out of ten, we don't know why we're struggling. Well,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, at least my therapist tries to tell me why.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: I I'm like, what is wrong with me? Well? Yeah,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, when people are struggling, they're struggling. Bottom line,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: whether they say it's family or friends, whatever, it doesn't
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: fucking matter. Give a moment of grace. I think that's
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: important for all of us, and I do mean all
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: of us. Yeah. So, one thing that I noticed, and
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: it did stick out to me, was when Tamora said,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: my my dear friend, meaning you was fighting for her
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: life and she's saying this while she's explaining why she's
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: you know, distraught. How'd you feel about that?
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I think that people handle potential I mean, in a
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: lack of better way to say that potential death. Yeah,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: different than others.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: And I think that you know, Tarma felt Tamara came
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: and saw me a bunch of times in the hospital.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: She was there, and I mean, I I was. I
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: can't even remember those days, like not that, not not
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: that I can't remember Tamar like, I mean, I can't
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: remember anything about that time prime in my life. Probably
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: good and I'm probably good, but like, also, I think
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: it was probably really scary to see.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: I that Lisa Rinna told me and Kyle told me
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: that it was like the hardest thing they've ever been,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: one of the hardest things they've ever seen. Yeah. So
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: I think I had two women that I'm close to
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: tell me, like Erica, it's fucking terrible. Yeah.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: And so I think nobody understands unless you were there,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: how terrible it actually was, and the concern that she
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: probably has. And I think that people assume that, you know, yeah,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: me and Tarma, we do a podcast together. Blah blah, blah.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: But before I got sick, we talked every single day.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Well, you guys were definitely on the road together, building
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: two teas in a pod.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: And and then it all stopped. And then it was
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: like she you couldn't get answers, like you couldn't hear,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: you couldn't hear from me.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Well, so she had to pick up a slack, yeah,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: you know, because her partner you was in the hospital. Yeah,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: And she picked up the slack and kept going.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: And she did it well, and she did it for
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: a long time. Yeah, and not one time did she
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: ever make me feel like hurry back, Oh god, No,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: like she was a really true good friend. Yeah. So yeah,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: there are moments where I'm like, fuck shit, you know,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: like this isn't going to look good for her. But
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I also know that I have other friends that saw
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: me in the hospital and said it was the hardest
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: thing they've ever seen. Yeah, so I give her grace
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: on that.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I think that's important that you were the
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: only person that matters in this conversation has spoken out
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: and given your opinion, you do have a very close
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: relationship with Tamra. Despite what we may say here on
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: this recap and despite what people may see or say,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: I do know she was there for you, and it's
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: important that people hear from you. Yeah, because they can
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: attack her online all they want, but they weren't there.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: So just you're cool with it, which is the only
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: person that matters.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: So yeah, and then Jen and Shannon meet with an
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: animal psychic.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: I thought this was kind of fun.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Really, Oh come on, I mean I love the dog Archie.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: But if I really wanted to see Caesar Milan's sister
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: speak to him.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Is that who that was? No thought it was her. Well,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, the thing is like, we have a dog,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: breaking news, you have a dog kind of Yeah, John
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: got a dog, and then the dog is with us.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: All John's with me, So yeah, we have this gorgeous
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Belgian mel from you know, he's a trained boy. So
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: he's currently at my house.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Ah, what's his name?
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Rick?
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Rick?
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Rick a dog named Rick Listen. He's from Holland They
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: you know, name them crazy names.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's exciting.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: John came home with this dog and I was like, okay, great, No,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: I mean it was exciting, Like I was super excited
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: for the dog. So we've been out buying shit for
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: the dog. Look at my life, cooking and dog things
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: and vacation vacations. Who am I?
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: What do you living the life around here?
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I'm living a normal life. Yeah, yeah, because I'm gonna
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: have to be co parenting this dog.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah I heard the wei there.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I said that would help.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: You said we got the dog.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Well we did, because it's at my fucking house, and
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: it's in my backyard, swimming in my pool, and we
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: are walking it around my fucking neighborhood. Okay, so we
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: you're fucking right, I heard. Okay, picking up shit? All right?
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: So we we are picking up shit?
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Right, we are doing this? Oh, I agreed to co
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: parent this dog, which I'm I'm great. I'm happy about
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: I love it. I just wish I had more energy.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I'm fucking tired. Dog's amazing and I yeah, the dog
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: is awesome.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: How holds the dog?
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Three? Yeah? So he's he's an intact male. He's gorgeous,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: little boy, so cute, little feisty little thing. Smart though.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm happy because even wanting a dog for a while.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been you know what's interesting. Rick came to
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: my house exactly almost two years after my dog Tiago died.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Kind of interesting, I know, and fisty little personality.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Feisty, feisty. Then we get I know, we already talked
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: about it, but in the actual show. Then we get
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: to where Tamar meets Katie. Katie tellers that tells her
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: that Gretchen said tam Or drugged her, and Slade said,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: tell Katie to stick to the story, tell her not
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: to waiver. That's the nail in the coffin because it'll
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: cause a legal issue.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Really bad guys, like this is bad shit. I mean,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: somebody lost their job in Atlanta over this, just like
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: you know, she was drugged.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: And then Katie texts Gretchen, I will, I will swear
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: on my life not to bring that up.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Then Katie was trying to cover for Gretchen.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah and yeah, I mean in this moment, I like
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: that Tamra took it upon herself to meet with Katie
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: despite the cast not wanting her to.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Well, she has reason. I mean, Gretchen's over here fucking
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: her shit out.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, ruttuns over here making all kinds of allegations and
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: bringing up shit from years and years ago.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Twenty seventeen to be exact.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Twenty seventeen.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know what happened in twenty twenty seventeen twenty.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I don't even know what year it is right now.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: It's twenty twenty five, almost twenty twenty six. And since
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: I'll say this, you know what, since January of twenty twenty,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: you and I've had the fucking worst five years our lives. Slave,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: you got her, Well, it started when the guy got
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: murdered in your house, the Airbnb house. Uh, slave's finger
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: got chopped off, Dove was born, she had with the helmet. Then,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, she's the no surgery that, I mean, the
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: whole and then my life blew the fuck up. Then
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: we all had COVID, I got a divorce, got broke.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: You know all these lawsuits.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: You yeah, I mean keeps going on. And I could
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: you imagine we could do a show just on our
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: last five years and it'd be more interesting.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Than all of this. I'll be honest with you. Our
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: you and I is combined last five years like this shit,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: it's just like standing still. But anyway, back back to
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: this riveting story. Uh yeah, I swear on my life. Okay.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: A fun raiser for a fundraiser event for the Trevor
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Project with junior cookies. Here's the thing. Shout out to
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: the Trevor Project. Long time supporter of the Trevor Project
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: even before I was on the show. They do awesome work.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Yay Heather for being over there.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: And Heather and Terry donated fifty thousand dollars.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: As they should. Yeah, because when you make it like that,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: that's what you're supposed to do with it.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it shows how important their kids are to them. Yes, Yeah,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: and knowing supported.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: And I think that that look as much as we
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: criticize this show, and as much as we you know,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: criticize the show, there are parents like Terry and Heather
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: that have children that they have really you know, showed
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: up for and that's inspirational and for others, I believe,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: and just like Emily and Jake and just you know,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: being there for your kids is important no matter what
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: what's happening in the family.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Meets with the Exoneries through the Innocent Center to
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: hear their stories, and she asked what they may need
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: after they get out insane.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty years for murder. You didn't commit.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Twenty years for murder, you didn't commit. And then somebody
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: said something like I didn't go through and get any
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: sort of nothing.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: They just turn you loose.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like he's like, I didn't think there was a
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: need for me to get an education. An education is
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: because the guy that was.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: In for fifteen years, the one that she worked with,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Oh I mean no, he was fifteen when he went
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: in or something like that.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he didn't get an education because he
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: didn't think he was.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Ever going to get out.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: And it made me so sad when they said, like,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: oh you know, I thought just my mom was going
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: to handle it.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: That was the one I was speaking of. Yeah, yeah,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: how or how could I be in two places at
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: one time?
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: But what really is like who prosecuted that case? These cases?
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I know? Well, and then when Emily gave it statististics,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: the statistics because there's one hundred thousand people, one hundred
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: thousand people, Yeah.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: That's it. I mean, look, I know that, like our
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: justice system is, whether you believe it or not, the
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: best in the world. But ship like that is just
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: its fucked up.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Well then that then they shout out to.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: These people that are and Emily and you know, the
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: exoneries for pulling it back together, because that is not
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: easy to have your life taken away from you like that,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: and then.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: For that many years, Oh my god, and then showing up, yeah,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: and trying to change your life.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's hard.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: It's really hard.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Then at Emily's Innocent Center fundraiser, Tamera avoid scratching and slide.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: I would, Yeah, I would too. Then and Emily tells
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: the woman she's pissed the tamera. I'm met with Katie.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, everybody's in. You're entitled to your opinion, Okay.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: But I'm I'm a little I still am a little
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: bit confused. Why is she pissed?
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know, you know her? What do you think?
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know why Emily's so pissed. Maybe she's pissed
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: because she wanted her to never be on the show again.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: That's out of her control. You see what I'm saying. Yeah, Now,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: now you're wanting things you can't have, which is I'd
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: like to never see some of these hoes again. But
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: guess what. They popped back up.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: And guess what You'll keep saying them.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: But and there ain't shit I can do about it.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: So they have this event. The event's going well ish,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: and then as Tamor's leaving, Gretchen says she and Slade
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: are going to find out exactly what Katie had to
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: say from Tamara, and Shannon says that Slade should not
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: be involved.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I agree with Shannon here.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I agree with Shannon. Shannon one hundred percent agree with you. Yeah,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: this should be Tamra and Gretchen, not Gretchen Slade and Tamra. See,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Eddie wasn't there.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I know, but then Eddie was having to walk out
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: with them because like it should have just been Gretchen
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: walking over and having come.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, this is a show about women. This is not
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: a show about your boyfriend and you. I'm sorry, I
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: keep saying this over and over, Like I agree, Shannon
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: was one hundred percent correcter.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: And then as they storm over to Tamar, Tamer says no,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing this and walks away, and Gretchen screams, run, bitch, run,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Run for your life, bitch.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't like that, But I also didn't like
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Tama calling them trash, which you've said you don't like
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: it when people call people trash. Yeah, I don't like it.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: I don't like this. Run bitch, run, Run for your life,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Run for your.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Life, And like, what is she running from this information
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: from fifteen twenty years ago? Yeah, I don't think so.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I think she just wants to be away from you.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think that. I feel it feels like
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Tamor's really overwhelmed this season, you know, starting way back
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: in New Orleans, right, yeah, so whatever's going on with
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Tamera because she usually sticksh it out right?
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Right about that? For whatever whatever? I mean, well she said,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: whatever reasons are happening, but you know, run bitch, run,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Run for your life, bitch. It's like, oh, come on, Gretchen,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: You're better than that.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Then Emily even steps in and tells gretch And she
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: was too aggressive. They start screaming at each other, and
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: the event I.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Like it when Emily gets seated, I'm not gonna lie.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Emily gets seated, she tells her she's being too aggressive.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, other than it drives me nuts. How now
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: more than one person calls her Gretchers.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you don't like Gretcher's.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: I don't like Gretchers.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah that you would probably get aggressive if some if
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: somebody said Gretcher's in front of me. I don't like
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: the word gretcher.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I don't like the word gretchers. But I mean, overall
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: this episode, I think it's it's leading us into the
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: cast trip.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Right, which is in Amsterdam?
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: So what is the big blow up on that thing? Wait?
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: So Katie's not going.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Katie's not going?
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, So does Gretchen go on this trip?
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: She must? Yeah, she must go on the trip.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: M Does Tamra go?
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Tamra goes on the trip. Jeez, Tamra goes, and
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: to my knowledge, stays.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's good. That's good. She didn't leave.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. So I don't know. I mean, we may
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: be dealing with Tamar and Gretcher's the rest of the season,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: or it could rotate to somebody else pissing somebody else off.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Who knows it always switches on a cast trip.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: No, wait till you see ours.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I can't wait. Thank you guys for tuning in to
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: another episode of Diamonds in the Rough. We'll be back
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: next week to recap the next episode.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: That's right. Thank you for listening, everybody, And I'm really
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: happy for you, Ted.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I'm happy for you, guys.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Shut up, shut up, we got this doll. God, I'm dead.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Oh God, she's actually blushing out shout.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Maybe once in my life. I am Yeah, what can
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: I say?