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FED SHOCK MOVE TO HUNT GLAM YOGA-GURU IN LOVE RIVAL'S MURDER · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: Fed's reveal their shock move to hunt down the glam
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  Speaker 2: yoga instructor in her love Rivals murder. How'd they do it?
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  Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for
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  Speaker 2: being with us.
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  Speaker 3: Up and coming star cyclist Mariah Moe Wilson dies after
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  Speaker 3: an ambush. Her body found in her friend's bathroom, bloody
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  Speaker 3: from gunshots.
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  Speaker 4: What happened to Moe Wilson? What happened to Mariah? And
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  Speaker 4: what is.
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  Speaker 2: The secret strategy the RUSS the shot reveal Fed's used
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  Speaker 2: to try and track down her killer.
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  Speaker 4: It all starts here.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, tell me exactly what happened.
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  Speaker 6: My friend is staying with me and I just walked
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  Speaker 6: in and she's laying on the bathroom floor. There's blood everywhere,
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  Speaker 6: and I don't I don't know what happened.
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  Speaker 5: How old is she?
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  Speaker 6: She's twenty six?
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  Speaker 5: Okay. Is she awake?
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  Speaker 7: She's not awake.
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  Speaker 6: There's blood all over her face and all on the
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  Speaker 6: back of her head.
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  Speaker 5: Is she breathing? She no, she's okay, Okay. I'm getting
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  Speaker 5: help started right now, and then I'm going to tell
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  Speaker 5: you exactly what to do. Okay, okay, And That is.
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  Speaker 4: Where it all starts.
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  Speaker 2: A friend of world class biker Mo Mariah found dead
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  Speaker 2: in the friends apartment.
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  Speaker 4: Caitlin Cash. What does this and no woman call reveal?
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  Speaker 4: This is the call.
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  Speaker 2: There you are seeing newly obtained body cam video.
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  Speaker 4: There's the friend.
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  Speaker 2: There's Caitlin Cash who comes home to find the bullet
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  Speaker 2: ridden body of her friend cornered trapped in the bathroom.
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  Speaker 5: Listen, Okay, lay her flat on her back on the
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  Speaker 5: floor and remove anything under her head. Let me know
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  Speaker 5: when that's done.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, there's nothing under her head.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, she flat up her back on the floor. Yeah, carefully.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to tell you how to do chest compressions. Caitlyn.
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  Speaker 5: Place the heel of your hand on the breastbone right
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  Speaker 5: between the nipples, and put your other hand on top
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  Speaker 5: of that hand.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Then pump the chest hard and fast, at least twice
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  Speaker 5: per second and two inches deep. Okay, let the chest
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  Speaker 5: come all the way up between pumps. We're gonna do
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  Speaker 5: this until help can take over. Count out loud so
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  Speaker 5: I can count with you. Right between the breastbone exactly, like,
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  Speaker 5: right between the nipples, right in the center of her chest.
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  Speaker 2: And that is the way Mini prosecutors, including myself, and
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  Speaker 2: I was still trying cases start a trial, to take
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  Speaker 2: the jury.
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  Speaker 4: Back to the moment, the moment when.
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  Speaker 2: A body is discovered, that harrowing time, those minutes when
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  Speaker 2: someone's trying to revive the victim.
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  Speaker 4: And of course you want to weigh the credibility.
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  Speaker 2: Of the person that calls nine one one, because very
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  Speaker 2: often statistically the person that finds the body is the killer,
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  Speaker 2: but not so in this case. And that nine one
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  Speaker 2: one call from the friend Caitlin Cash, set off a
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  Speaker 2: series of events that took the FEDS, basically government bounty
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  Speaker 2: hunters all the way around the world to try and
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  Speaker 2: find Moe's killer.
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  Speaker 5: Listen, just pump part of fast and then count out
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  Speaker 5: loud so I can count with you.
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  Speaker 6: One, two, three, four, five, It's.
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  Speaker 5: Good, keep going eleven.
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  Speaker 6: Twelve, thirteen, fourteen, eighteen, thirteen, twenty.
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  Speaker 5: That's good, cat, don't stop, keep going.
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  Speaker 2: You're doing good, the friend, dissolving into tears as she
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  Speaker 2: tries to revive Mariah, the world class dirt biker in
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  Speaker 2: her twenties, up and coming, just hitting the charts. I
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  Speaker 2: remember distinctly when Moe was found murdered, joining me an
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  Speaker 2: all start paddle to make sense of what we are
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  Speaker 2: learning right now. To Troy Slayton, first of all, high
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  Speaker 2: profile criminal defense attorney joining us out of LA it's
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  Speaker 2: pretty hard to even fathom that this could have been
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  Speaker 2: a random killing because Mariah was found wedged in between
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  Speaker 2: the commode and the wall, which is a very tight spot.
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  Speaker 2: Bullets fired at close range, and you know, Troy Slayton,
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  Speaker 2: we could determine that if gunshot residue is found on
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  Speaker 2: the body, which proves that the shot was from at
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  Speaker 2: least thirty six or less inches away, so it was
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  Speaker 2: close range. Slaton, this wasn't no random shooting that was
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  Speaker 2: determined very quickly, Troy.
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  Speaker 8: Just because the shooting is at close range, Nancy, doesn't
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  Speaker 8: mean that this wasn't some sort of breaking.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe she surprised the burglar.
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  Speaker 8: Maybe she surprised somebody who was doing some sort of
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  Speaker 8: home invasion or looking for something, and she came out unexpectedly.
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  Speaker 8: Just because there's no gunshot residue, No, just because there
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  Speaker 8: is gunshot residue rather doesn't mean that this wasn't some
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  Speaker 8: sort of random ac Troy.
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  Speaker 2: Do you ever get tired of just spinning out bs?
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  Speaker 4: Because I guarantee you.
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  Speaker 2: If you answer truthfully, you will admit that when there
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  Speaker 2: are burglaries, typically when a burglar is interrupted.
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  Speaker 4: They run.
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  Speaker 2: They don't want you. They don't want a murder charge.
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  Speaker 2: They want your TV and your VCR. That's what they want.
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  Speaker 2: They want cash, they want drugs, they want jewelry, not you.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody wants to catch It's over a burglary, that's bs.
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  Speaker 8: This is in Austin, and there's a lot of dangerous
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  Speaker 8: folks in Austin.
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  Speaker 2: And this is a lot of dangerous folks, as you say,
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  Speaker 2: all over the country.
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  Speaker 8: There are, but Nancy, Okay, and that made a lot
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  Speaker 8: of sense. This is a closed bathroom. This is a
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  Speaker 8: small space, so any kind of shot inside the bathroom
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  Speaker 8: is going to be a close range by definition. This
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  Speaker 8: wasn't some sort of men.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty established that you're just like, okay, we already said
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  Speaker 2: that it's close range.
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  Speaker 4: We know that you know what.
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  Speaker 2: Moving forward, I want to get off the fact that
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  Speaker 2: this was a targeted shooting, which it was, to.
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  Speaker 4: A shot reveal about how.
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  Speaker 2: The FEDS try to catch down Mariah's killer. But we've
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  Speaker 2: just obtained body can bodycam of the friend, Caitlin Cash.
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  Speaker 2: Let's watch, let's see what police found at the scene.
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  Speaker 9: Awesome, Okay, yeah, I have shot.
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  Speaker 10: Heard any shots and are now no, that's it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, see yourself from you are seeing nearly obtained bodycam
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  Speaker 2: footage of what officers find when they first get there.
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  Speaker 4: That's the Austin p D.
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  Speaker 2: And you see the terrified look on the friend, Caitlyn
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  Speaker 2: Cash's face.
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  Speaker 4: Now we get our first clue as to the identity
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  Speaker 4: of the killer. Listen, freak Colin, Yeah, you know, yeah
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  Speaker 4: he went and our friends are I mean like acquaintances.
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  Speaker 2: You don't know what.
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  Speaker 11: Harry Drives is a cyclist, a cyclist, I live in
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  Speaker 11: this area.
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  Speaker 4: He lives in South Austin. Who is Colin Strickland right there?
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  Speaker 2: As you're standing over the dead body of Mo Mariah
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  Speaker 2: the dirt biker, they get the name Colin Strickland. Listen
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  Speaker 2: to Colin Strickland when police go and find him.
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  Speaker 5: So you know Anna.
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  Speaker 11: Mo. Yeah, everybody calls from love man monk last night's
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  Speaker 11: Wilson writer. She's a writer for you. There's really easy
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  Speaker 11: way to say this, sir.
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  Speaker 12: So apparently last night she passed away?
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  Speaker 13: How did.
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  Speaker 14: She?
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  Speaker 5: Right? Now, it's a it's an open investigation, but it
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  Speaker 5: is being investigated as a.
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  Speaker 1: Homicide crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: Back to Troy Slayton, the veteran defense attorney joining us
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  Speaker 2: out of LA.
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  Speaker 4: Let's see that again. As I'm talking to Slayton.
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  Speaker 2: This is newly obtained Bodykim footage.
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  Speaker 4: They get the name Colin Strickland.
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  Speaker 2: He's a cyclist at the murder scene from the friend.
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  Speaker 4: They find him. This Troy is when they.
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  Speaker 2: Go tell him and he learns Mariah is dead, watch
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  Speaker 2: him because that's what Ellie law enforcement is doing.
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  Speaker 4: They're watching his reaction. Troy.
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  Speaker 8: Absolutely, they're looking at everything, they're recording it, and they're
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  Speaker 8: talking to him and all of this could be potential evidence.
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  Speaker 4: And he doesn't seem that shocked at all.
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  Speaker 8: He seems kind of nonchalant, his hands on his hips
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  Speaker 8: as he says, oh, do we know how it happened?
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  Speaker 8: At first, after he declines saying that he knows who
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  Speaker 8: Moe is and he knows Darmo.
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  Speaker 2: I disagree with you because he goes, Anna, Mo, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I see what you're saying. But then pretty quickly he goes,
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  Speaker 2: yes I do. She's a gravel rider. Yes, I do
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  Speaker 2: know her, And then they tell him but I do
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  Speaker 2: agree with you, and I'd like to see it control room.
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  Speaker 4: I want to judge it just like police did.
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  Speaker 2: He seems, as you say, very non chalant as they
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  Speaker 2: are telling him that Mariah, the woman he just had
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  Speaker 2: dinner with in less.
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  Speaker 4: Than twenty four hours before, is dead.
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  Speaker 2: Straight out to Alexis Terzschak, crimeonline dot Com investigative reporter Alexis,
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  Speaker 2: please explain the connection between Mariah Mo the dirt bike champion,
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  Speaker 2: and Colin Strickland. Why are they looking at Colin Strickland.
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  Speaker 15: So Colin is a very successful bike rider, Moe was
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  Speaker 15: also in this world.
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  Speaker 4: They actually had a relationship.
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  Speaker 15: They had been dating for a brief while and then
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  Speaker 15: so then they were together in Austin, Texas, where he lived,
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  Speaker 15: but she was visiting. She had come into town for
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  Speaker 15: a bike race.
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  Speaker 4: They met up.
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  Speaker 15: She was staying with her friend. He took her and
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  Speaker 15: they went swimming in Austin and then hit like a
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  Speaker 15: public swimming pool, and then they went out to dinner together.
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  Speaker 15: And that is why the police are there. Because the
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  Speaker 15: girl that she was staying with, Kate Lacashus. The last
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  Speaker 15: person she was with was Colin. They went swimming, they
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  Speaker 15: went out together. I know they were together. She's staying
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  Speaker 15: with me and so that's why police went to see Colin.
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  Speaker 3: As police retrace Wilson's steps the night she dies, they
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  Speaker 3: learned the person that she had dinner plans with was
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  Speaker 3: Colin Strickland, another cyclist and a past love interest. The
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  Speaker 3: pair first went for a swim at deep Eddie Pool,
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  Speaker 3: then it was off to dinner at Poolberger. After dinner,
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  Speaker 3: Strickland dropped Wilson off at her friend's house and went
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  Speaker 3: home to the house he shares with his girlfriend. A
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  Speaker 3: Texas yoga instructor linked to the shooting death of a
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  Speaker 3: standout cyclist. How did us marshalls track the runaway suspect
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  Speaker 3: and how does a nose job come into play?
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  Speaker 2: Straight back out to Alexis, Tereschuk, explain what we're seeing, Alexis.
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  Speaker 15: So this is a ring camera on a door near
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  Speaker 15: right by the Caitlyn Cash's house. Kaitlyn Cash is the
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  Speaker 15: friend of Mo Wilson, where Moe was staying when she
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  Speaker 15: was in town. What you're seeing is a black jeep Cherokee,
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  Speaker 15: and it is driving by and it's daylight here, so
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  Speaker 15: you can see it drive by, casing the place where
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  Speaker 15: Moe was staying. She's actually staying in the back house
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  Speaker 15: of this main house. It's like an apartment in the
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  Speaker 15: back of the house, and so that shows two different
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  Speaker 15: angles of the same car driving by within seconds of
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  Speaker 15: each other.
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  Speaker 12: Our investigation shows that before her death, Wilson was in
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  Speaker 12: the company of Colin Strickland. The preliminary investigation revealed that
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  Speaker 12: Colin dropped Wilson off at seventeen oh eight Maple Avenue
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  Speaker 12: at approximately eight thirty six pm. Investigators obtained ring camera
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  Speaker 12: video from the neighborhood the capture a vehicle at seventeen
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  Speaker 12: oh eight Maple Avenue within two minutes of the time
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  Speaker 12: Colin dropped off Wilson. It was later discovered that vehicle
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  Speaker 12: was registered to Colin's girlfriend, Caitlin Armstrong.
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  Speaker 4: Straight out to Special Guests joining US.
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  Speaker 2: IRV Brandt, former Senior Inspector at the US Marshall's Service
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  Speaker 2: International Investigations Branch, who has traveled all around the world
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  Speaker 2: hunting down bad guys and glam yoga instructors wanted for murder.
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  Speaker 2: He is the author of a series of mysteries on Amazon,
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  Speaker 2: the Jack Solos. His most recent forever solo, Night of
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  Speaker 2: the Dragon.
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  Speaker 4: IRV Brandt.
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  Speaker 2: She's caught on video circling like a vulture around the
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  Speaker 2: home where the victim is staying, just before Mariah is murdered.
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  Speaker 4: You'd think should be easy to catch, right.
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  Speaker 16: Well, yes, Nancy, you would assume that that you have
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  Speaker 16: identified a suspect. You have them on camera, so it
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  Speaker 16: would be easy, you know, to get that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, in a perfect world, your mouth to Gadzier, Right, Well,
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  Speaker 2: it didn't work out that way.
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  Speaker 4: Listen.
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  Speaker 12: The Awesome Police Department's tech intel unit located calling at
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  Speaker 12: his residence and he agreed to an interview. Armstrong was
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  Speaker 12: transported to the main police station and interview. Armstrong was
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  Speaker 12: questioning about her vehicle being in the area as pictured
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  Speaker 12: on the ring camera.
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  Speaker 4: However, she would not confirm or deny.
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  Speaker 12: Being in the area of the murder and quickly terminated
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  Speaker 12: the interview.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let me understand what I'm hearing, Alexis terschuk Thy
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  Speaker 2: glam you instructor, Caitlin Armstrong. They brought her in for questioning.
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  Speaker 4: Right, they let her go. Why did they let her go?
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  Speaker 15: Well, it was a big mix up on their parts.
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  Speaker 15: So there was an outstanding warrant for her arrest that
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  Speaker 15: because she had not paid the bill for botox treatment
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  Speaker 15: she had, so the police arrested her or brought her
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  Speaker 15: in because of this outstanding warrant. This is the first
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  Speaker 15: thing they bring her in. They put her in this
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  Speaker 15: room to talk to her. Really, they want to talk
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  Speaker 15: about what happened with Mo Wilson, Colin Strickland, her boyfriend instead,
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  Speaker 15: so they say to her, you're not under arrest, you're
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  Speaker 15: here because well, there was this outstanding warrant. However, there
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  Speaker 15: was a mix up on the form and it said
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  Speaker 15: it had a different birthdate, so all the police then thought,
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  Speaker 15: oh no, this isn't the right warrant for her, so
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  Speaker 15: we can't really hold her and we have to let
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  Speaker 15: her go. But they kept trying and trying and trying
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  Speaker 15: to get her to talk about why her car was
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  Speaker 15: seen at Moe Wilson's place and she went home in.
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  Speaker 4: Just a minute.
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  Speaker 2: Elezis Tereschuk too many words, way too many words. So
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  Speaker 2: they find out that her boyfriend, Collins Trickland, has dinner
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  Speaker 2: with Mo, the murder victim, and her car. Yoga guru
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  Speaker 2: is circling the murder, saying just before the murder, two
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  Speaker 2: plus two I think still egals four.
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  Speaker 4: So bottom line.
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  Speaker 2: They get her on an outstanding warrant where she got
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  Speaker 2: botox and went ooh, I've.
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  Speaker 4: Got the wrong credit card. Let me go get the
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  Speaker 4: right one out of the car leaves and now it
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  Speaker 4: comes back.
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  Speaker 2: Then on that warrant they have the wrong DOB and
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  Speaker 2: she slips away. But guess what I've got. Nealie obtained
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  Speaker 2: of her in the interview and listen, now we know
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  Speaker 2: she murdered mo over a Hamburger with her boyfriend, and
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  Speaker 2: this is why she's upset.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, you love.
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  Speaker 12: Foster arrested me in front of my house, in front
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  Speaker 12: of all of my neighbors and carried me in here
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  Speaker 12: in handcuffs.
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  Speaker 15: In front of ye incredibly imagine.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, and I'm so sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me right now is special guest Josephine Winsle. She
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  Speaker 2: is Crystal Mitchell's mother. Crystal Mitchell was brutally beaten and
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  Speaker 2: murdered by mister Wright R. J. McLeod marine pumped full
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  Speaker 2: of steroids, who murders Crystal and then abscon's leaves and
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  Speaker 2: goes all around the world. Josephine comes out of retire
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  Speaker 2: previous detective and devotes her life to finding her daughter's killer. Josephine,
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  Speaker 2: do you hear what we're saying? Mariah is going down
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  Speaker 2: multiple times in close quarters. Caitlin Armstrong is brought in
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  Speaker 2: on a botox warrant and she's whining that she was
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  Speaker 2: humiliated when she was arrested.
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  Speaker 7: Really, these people are just you know, niceissistic people, and
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  Speaker 7: you know, well through the police oft, isn't it. And
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  Speaker 7: it allowed them to let them go and let her run,
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  Speaker 7: which is ridiculous. I mean, data bird, Na, she's a
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  Speaker 7: still elder somehow, and throw that up, or at least
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  Speaker 7: watched her.
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  Speaker 2: Let me throwand former US Marshall erv a little embarrassed
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  Speaker 2: for law enforcement right now. They let her go, which
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  Speaker 2: led to this wild goose chase all around the country.
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  Speaker 16: Yes, Nancy, it is embarrassing. Anytime that you're conducting an investigation,
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  Speaker 16: like a murder investigation, there's a set of protocols that
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  Speaker 16: you go through and these protocols have to be followed,
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  Speaker 16: and you have a defense attorney on the panel. He'll
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  Speaker 16: tell you that if the police mess up, that's what
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  Speaker 16: they're going to jump on. So they obviously didn't follow
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  Speaker 16: the protocols exactly and ended up having to release her.
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  Speaker 4: You know what, let's.
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  Speaker 2: Just have a little refresher of Brandt. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: hate to rub it in your nose. How big of
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  Speaker 2: a screw up this is. But to doctor Michelle Dupree,
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  Speaker 2: re now forensic pathologist, he shot to the nation's consciousness
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  Speaker 2: during the Alex Murdog trial and the double murders of
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  Speaker 2: wife Maggie and son Paul, author of Money, Mischief and
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  Speaker 2: Murder the Murdog Dynasty. The rest of the story, but
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  Speaker 2: from my purposes, the author of homicide investigation Field Guy,
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  Speaker 2: doctor Dupre, could you describe Mariah's wounds?
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  Speaker 13: So, yes, Nancy, So they were there was a head woods,
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  Speaker 13: also a wound to the back of the head, and
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  Speaker 13: there was a woman directly to her heart. Basically, they
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  Speaker 13: were range. There was simpling on these wounds.
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  Speaker 4: They were meant to be lethal, Doctor Dupre. Did you
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  Speaker 4: say that Mariah was shot in the heart.
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  Speaker 13: Yes, she was shot in the chest.
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  Speaker 2: In the heart, Doctor Dupree, I find it very difficult
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  Speaker 2: to believe that someone was accidentally or coincidentally shot in
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  Speaker 2: the heart at close range.
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  Speaker 13: No, Nancy, this was a targeted This was intentional. These
• 20:37
  Speaker 13: woods were meant to be lethal. They were those personal
• 20:40
  Speaker 13: and they hit the vital places, the head and the heart.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Doctor Jeff Kalsowski joining us. Forensic psychologist, author of Dark Sides.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: You can find him on YouTube at doctor Jeff Kaloshowski,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Forensic Psychologist. Doctor Jeff, thank you for being with us.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I'm just a trial lawyer. You're the shrink.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: But I know that.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: There is a psychological implication when a victim is shot
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: in the heart, right, And like.
• 21:07
  Speaker 10: The medical examiner mentioned, this is a very personal murder.
• 21:11
  Speaker 10: It's a very efficient murder. It's done in the apartment,
• 21:15
  Speaker 10: in the bathroom, one way in, one way out. There's
• 21:18
  Speaker 10: no evidence of the struggle. This was an assassination for sure.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Given the fact that Mariah, in her twenties, is gunned down,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: wedged into the bathroom in a tiny space.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: I want you to hear.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Not only is the glam yoga instructor Kaylin Armstrong whining
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: that she was quote incredibly humiliated when she was arrested
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: on her botox warrant. Woman, Yet she's humiliated. Listen to
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: what she says.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: When they were asking her about what happened.
• 21:55
  Speaker 15: So what were you doing yesterday?
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: I would like to leave?
• 21:59
  Speaker 15: I think you would like to leave? Yeah, Okay, talking
• 22:02
  Speaker 15: to tonight. I don't actually know, and I would like
• 22:06
  Speaker 15: to leave.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: Okay, is there any explanation as far as why the
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: vehicle would be over there?
• 22:15
  Speaker 10: I would like to leave.
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: I'm prettylead.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Okay, you're the jealous love rival stock Moe Wilson and
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: who called nine one one after the star cyclist was shot.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Sounds so directly Aboven shot her.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: It's a personal and look up the girlfriend, Caitlyn Armstrong,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: yoga teacher.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: You can please the sud.
• 22:36
  Speaker 11: The murder is the readiest case in Texas.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Well. I got to give it to Lifetime with.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: The yoga teacher killer, the Kaitlyn Armstrong story, and they
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: got that right.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: That's pretty much the way prosecutors say.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: The whole thing went down before Kaitlin Armstrong vanished into
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: thin air.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: So how did the feds track her?
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: What rous did they use to try to find the
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: glam yoga instructor halfway.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Around the world That was from our.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Friends at Lifetime, But as glamorously as that murder was
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: portrayed in the Kaitlin Armstrong story, the killer yoga teacher.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Let's have a little dose all shot of reality.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Take a listen to this.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: The day after cops questioned Armstrong, she unloads her Jeep
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Grand Cherokee for twelve thousand dollars to a CarMax in
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: South Austin, the same jeep that appears on surveillance video
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: in the area where Moe Wilson was gunned down. Police
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: realize Kaitlin Armstrong is nowhere to be found. Armstrong is
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: captured on surveillance footage at the ABIA the Austin Bergstrom
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: International Airport, boarding a flight bound for Houston, then onto
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: New York. After tracking Armstrong to New York's LaGuardia Airport,
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: she seems to vanish into thin air. Armstrong is then
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: dropped off at Newark Liberty International Airport, but note reservations
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: were ever found, and it isn't clear if she simply
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: disappeared again from this airport.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Now, how this woman can appear at various airports and
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: then vanish from an airport.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: Alexis Tereschuk.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: She spotted at Lagordia, then she's spotted at Newark, just
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: walking through the airport, very calmly, as calm as she
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: was in that police interview, and then she vanishes.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: We have her on video and she vanishes.
• 24:36
  Speaker 15: Alexis so there was no record of her taking any
• 24:40
  Speaker 15: flights out. After she lands in New York, she goes
• 24:42
  Speaker 15: from one airport to the other. However, her sister lived
• 24:46
  Speaker 15: right near this airport, and police then believe that she
• 24:51
  Speaker 15: took her sister's passport if they look fairly similar to
• 24:54
  Speaker 15: each other, and led the country to Troy.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Slayton joining us a veteran trial lawyer out of La Troy.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Don't you think it looks worse if and when the
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: killer is apprehended and they go in front of a jury,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: The jury absolutely can hear evidence of flight.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: They can hear that.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: This woman somehow managed to elude authorities. They'll find out
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: about the prior botox warrant. They'll see the interviews where
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: she wanted to leave. That it's not a comment on
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: your right to remain silent. She wanted to leave. They
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: can hear that. And so saying oh, yeah, I was
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: at Walmart, I was at Costco.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: No, no, no. When she's asked.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Where were you at the time Mariah was gunned down,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: she asked to leave, they'll hear that. Then they'll hear
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: she disappeared from Newark Careport.
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: Not only will they hear it, but the judge will
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: give an instruction that says that evidence that flight and
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: running is consciousness of guilt, and they may use that
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: evidence as consciousness of guilt. But you know, look, I'm
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: not in the business of defending the police here. But
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: the police did the absolute right thing in not holding
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: her on a warrant with a wrong birthdate, because we
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: don't want to hold people who are not the right
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: people on wrong warrants, not even for one second. So
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: the police did the absolute right thing.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: The warrant wasn't wrong, the dob was wrong.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: But I appreciate you parsing words and splitting hairs.
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: That's what we do, Nancy, to make sure that not
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: even one innocent person suffers the wrath of the government.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: You know what. I appreciate you climbing up yet again
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: on your soapbox.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: But let's be honest about the law.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Where there is a minor defect in a warrant, it's
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: been uphild by the US Supreme Court, remember them up
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: in Washington, the US Supreme Court. The US Supreme Court
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: has ruled that a minor defect in a warrant, be
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: it or rest, does not negate the validity.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: Of the warrant. You also been a later case to
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: refresh your recollection.
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: This is the wrong birth date.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: So there's a lot of people with that same digit.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: By one digit, same name, same description, same height, same weight,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: same finger prints, same everything.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: Just the DNB is offer.
• 27:20
  Speaker 8: I'm friends with four Troy Slayton's on Facebook because I
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: thought it was funny. And so just because somebody has
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: the same name doesn't mean that it's the same person.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: You know what, Troy, I'm so happy for you that
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: you have friends now on Facebook. But to Josephine Wentzel
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: joining us, her daughter was murdered Crystal Mitchell.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: And her killer jacked up on steroids.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Goes halfway around and with a serious rap sheet of
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: domestic violence, flees and goes halfway around the world.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: What do you make of it, Josephine, that.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Caitlin Armstrong just disappears in New York's Liberty Never see
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: it again.
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: It was a liner, like you said, a minor defect. Okay,
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: it was a very serious case. What would it cost
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: her for inconvenience if they held her and made the
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: phone call to find out is this the person or not?
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: It was a very serious case. Rather than saying Oh wow,
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: you fit the profile and everything, but you have their
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: own data birth so we'll let you go. And you know,
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: there's nothing on the borders to stop criminals from fleeing
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: into other countries. So nobody's alerted that this person wanted
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: it is going to flee the country. And that's another
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: issue that I'm pushing, by the way, with the Marshals
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: and with the States, and we're taking it to Washington
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: about having having an alert to alert as when these
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: people are going to cross over when they wanted.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: And then investigators, basically US bounty hunters, the US Marshals,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: who I hold in great esteem, do some old fashioned
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: police work.
• 28:56
  Speaker 14: Investigators turned to old fashioned police work, managing to track
• 28:59
  Speaker 14: down the phone number of an American businessman they believe
• 29:02
  Speaker 14: had connected with Armstrong. At some point, he was sent
• 29:05
  Speaker 14: pictures of Caitlin and says he's seen her, but she
• 29:07
  Speaker 14: doesn't look like that anymore. She had cut her hair
• 29:10
  Speaker 14: and dyed it red, and she's going by the name Beth.
• 29:13
  Speaker 14: He said he met her at a yoga studio in Jocko.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Now to find Caitlin Armstrong, the so called glam yoga teacher, how.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: Did she vanish?
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: In the airport at Liberty International that's in Newark. How
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: did that happen? The place is like a casino in Vegas.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: It's covered, it's blanketed and security cameras. Yet she did
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: it straight out to IRV Brandt. LA law enforcement then
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: gets fixated on the fact that Caitlin Armstrong's sister lost
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: her passport.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Then what happened?
• 29:50
  Speaker 16: Well, Nancy, that's that's the break in the case. When
• 29:54
  Speaker 16: you're hunting a fugitive, you're looking at family members, and
• 29:59
  Speaker 16: the sisters said that her passport was lost. Well, a
• 30:03
  Speaker 16: search of the records of the flight records show that
• 30:07
  Speaker 16: there was a flight in her that she booked a
• 30:10
  Speaker 16: flight in her name to Costa Rica, and that led
• 30:14
  Speaker 16: investigators to believe that it was actually Caitlin Armstrong and
• 30:19
  Speaker 16: not her sister. In Costa Rica.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, the Feds shock move to
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: hunt down the glam yoga guru and the love rival murder.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: It's revealed how did they get her listen.
• 30:47
  Speaker 14: Us Marshalls used one of their own female operatives going
• 30:49
  Speaker 14: to yoga classes to see if they could spot Armstrong.
• 30:53
  Speaker 14: Turns out people had seen Armstrong at local spots in
• 30:56
  Speaker 14: San Theresa, but they didn't realize who she was. She
• 30:59
  Speaker 14: was hiding in planes using different names like Beth and Ari.
• 31:03
  Speaker 14: Investigators turned to local Facebook page, taking out an ad
• 31:06
  Speaker 14: for a yoga instructor to see what would happen. After
• 31:09
  Speaker 14: a week, a reply identifying herself as a yoga instructor
• 31:13
  Speaker 14: pretending to be a tourist, and investigator goes into a
• 31:16
  Speaker 14: hostel trying to get a good look at the woman.
• 31:18
  Speaker 14: She resembles Caitlin, but not one hundred percent. As he
• 31:21
  Speaker 14: got close to the woman, he sees a bandage on
• 31:24
  Speaker 14: her nose and her lips are swollen, but the eyes
• 31:27
  Speaker 14: are the same. Now investigators know why they have had
• 31:30
  Speaker 14: so much trouble finding Armstrong. She had been getting plastic surgery.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: IRV brand This is second verse, same as the first
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: again and I'm talking about the killer r J.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: Mccloyd.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: What is Kaitlin Armstrong doing in Costa Rica. She's teaching
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: yoga ding ding ding ding, same thing with McLeod. So
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: let me understand IRV Brandt and the case. And she
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: with Caitlin Armstrong, the yoga teacher. The US Marshals, the
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: FEDS actually use a female operative and what does the
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: operative do.
• 32:07
  Speaker 16: Well, the operative is looking for the fugitive in an
• 32:12
  Speaker 16: area that the fugitive is known to be comfortable with,
• 32:16
  Speaker 16: and that would be teaching yoga, So the spots that
• 32:22
  Speaker 16: yoga teachers would frequent and that area in general.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I guess it's not a huge leap to look for
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: her teaching yoga. And then they run into the American
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: businessman where they track him down that states he had
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: seen her, but she didn't look the.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: Same, and that he had met her in a yoga studio.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: So again not a far leap.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: But to doctor Michelle Dupree, she was barely recognizable because
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: of plastic surgery that had to hurt.
• 32:56
  Speaker 13: Yes, Nancy absolutely, and you know the swelling on the face,
• 33:00
  Speaker 13: all of this. She's gonna heal, but she is gonna
• 33:02
  Speaker 13: look different, and she's going to also confuse any facial recognition.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Doctor Jeff Kalashwski, the length this woman went to, that's
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: going to impress a jury.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: What does that tell you, Well.
• 33:12
  Speaker 10: It's going to impress a jury that she was obviously
• 33:16
  Speaker 10: being deceitful trying to hide her identity. And then the
• 33:19
  Speaker 10: big question is why did you feel I need to
• 33:21
  Speaker 10: do that, and that's the kind of question the jury's
• 33:23
  Speaker 10: gonna ask.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: IRV Brandt? Is this common?
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: IRV Brandt has spent his entire career chasing down the
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: bad guys with the US Marshall Service. He's traveled all
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: over the world for them and is now a successful author.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I wonder who Jack Solo could be. But that said,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: we see it in the movies Earth. But is it
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: common for wanted murderers to actually have plastic surgery, sometimes.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: Even trying to get rid of their fingerprints?
• 33:54
  Speaker 16: It is Nancy, someone who knows that they're being They
• 34:00
  Speaker 16: know that they're being followed, that people are looking for them,
• 34:04
  Speaker 16: that their faces have been on the news. The most
• 34:08
  Speaker 16: common thing uh with fugitive is to change your facial appearance.
• 34:13
  Speaker 16: Whether it's cutting off all your hair if you have
• 34:16
  Speaker 16: long hair, it's dyeing your hair, if you have red hair,
• 34:19
  Speaker 16: maybe changing it to brown hair, to you know, trying
• 34:23
  Speaker 16: to change some of your facial features. And it usually
• 34:28
  Speaker 16: starts with the nose and to throw off facial recognition.
• 34:34
  Speaker 16: Anything that you can do to hide from the person
• 34:38
  Speaker 16: that you were before.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Doctor Duprie, this is very extensive surgery. Did you see
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: those shots and then she tried to tell somebody she
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: was hitting the nose with a surfboard. Okay, what did
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: all that surgery entail, Doctor Duprie.
• 34:51
  Speaker 13: Nancy, that's a lot, not to mention the expense of it,
• 34:54
  Speaker 13: but you're basically reconstructing major portions of her face. First
• 34:58
  Speaker 13: of all, this took a long time, and secondly, it
• 35:01
  Speaker 13: was expensive.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Alexis Terresschuk, how was she living? Wasn't she in a
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: youth hostel?
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: She was.
• 35:07
  Speaker 15: She was living in a small beach town in Costa
• 35:09
  Speaker 15: Rica and just a hostel, which is really less than
• 35:13
  Speaker 15: a hotel.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: And she was really.
• 35:15
  Speaker 15: Running out of money. So she had sold her car
• 35:17
  Speaker 15: for twelve thousand dollars. She sold it, you know, the
• 35:19
  Speaker 15: day after she murdered mo. But that money was running
• 35:24
  Speaker 15: out because she spent seventy five hundred of that on
• 35:26
  Speaker 15: plastic surgery in Mexico to change her So she was.
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: Looking for a job.
• 35:31
  Speaker 15: She was trying to get a job in the hostel.
• 35:32
  Speaker 15: She was trying to get jobs anywhere around town. But
• 35:35
  Speaker 15: the only thing that she was hoping to try to
• 35:37
  Speaker 15: do was maybe to get a job as a yoga instructor.
• 35:39
  Speaker 15: So when there was an ad for a yoga instructor.
• 35:42
  Speaker 15: She immediately jumped at this.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: A new country, a new nose, and a new job,
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: all pieces of a puzzle that leads to the international
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: arrest of her murderer.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: The fads shock moved to hount down the glam yoga
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: guru in her love Rivals murder.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: What do they do? They got a.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Female operative to go undercover and go into the yoga
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: scene in Costa Rica looking for a needle in a haystack.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: After an American businessman says he's seen Caitlin Armstrong but
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: she quote looked different that he had met her in
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: a yoga studio. So they send this female operative. I
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: got to hand it to him or Brandt. They made
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: good after the big booboo of a local law enforcement
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: letting her slip through their fingers. After her botox warrant
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: and a murder, they get a female operative to go
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: undercover all around Costa Rica until finally she sees a
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: woman that kind of resembles Caitlin Armstrong. It was pretty
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: smart herv Then they placed a yoga.
• 36:52
  Speaker 16: Ad uh Nancy tricky us Marshalls thinking outside the box,
• 36:57
  Speaker 16: and they used a an investigative tool ruse or lure,
• 37:03
  Speaker 16: whatever you want to call it, it's very common technique
• 37:07
  Speaker 16: and to work.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Doctor Jeff Kelshewski joining US forensics psychologist and author of
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Dark Sides, Doctor Jeff.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: The way she managed to talk her.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Way out of that police interview, the way she managed
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: to fenangle her sister's passport and go all around the country,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: get plastic surgery in Costa Rica, and hide out under
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: an assumed name.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: But she answered an ad for a yoga teacher.
• 37:35
  Speaker 10: Right, I mean, the termine narcissism came up. And how
• 37:38
  Speaker 10: many times on these programs that we talked about killers
• 37:41
  Speaker 10: being tripped up by their own narcissism. She probably thought
• 37:45
  Speaker 10: she got away with it. She thought she took all
• 37:47
  Speaker 10: the right steps, and she thought she was in the clear,
• 37:51
  Speaker 10: and then she opened herself up and made herself more vulnerable.
• 37:55
  Speaker 10: And kudos to law enforcement. You know, one important rule
• 37:58
  Speaker 10: is to know yourself respect well. The obviously knew a
• 38:02
  Speaker 10: lot about her, and they knew what kind of bait
• 38:04
  Speaker 10: could pull her out from the shadows and make her
• 38:07
  Speaker 10: vulnerable and expose herself where they could apprehend her.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: You know, doctor Jeff, you would think someone that had
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: been this wily like her, like R. J. McLeod would
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: recognize a trap like an ad for a yoga teacher.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: You want a yoga teacher, go to the yoga studio.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: It's one walk away. How many are there in Costa Rica?
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: So long story short, they both fail.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: For it, and I believe it's arrogance, as you say, narcissism.
• 38:36
  Speaker 10: It's a false confidence. I'm so wonderful, I'm so tricky,
• 38:41
  Speaker 10: I'm so good at what I just did. I'm in
• 38:43
  Speaker 10: the clear. A false confidence that came back to bite her.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, Josephine Winsel, all those years you were waiting
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: for the US marshals to find your daughter's killer.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: How did that feel to you?
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: It was cruciating and it was very frustrating, especially when
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: COVID happened, and I knew that even if we got
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: a tip, then nobody's going to go over there to
• 39:12
  Speaker 7: look for them. It was very frustrating. I did a
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: lot of you know, in between time I searching for him,
• 39:19
  Speaker 7: I was writing a lot to a Congress, the White House.
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: I was just trying to shake them up in DC
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: to like do something here. And then it got to
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: the point where we were getting a lot of tips
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: in and the embassy couldn't respond, so they were like,
• 39:32
  Speaker 7: We're not going to respond to all of your tips.
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: So then it became even more frustrating, and I'm like,
• 39:37
  Speaker 7: why am I wasting all my time in front of
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: the computer searching it? Then I going to check the
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: gifts out and so it was very, very frustrating. But
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: I had to credit the marshals because they were patient,
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: they were consistent, and they were trying everything they could
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: to respond to all my tips considering they were not
• 39:56
  Speaker 7: in that country, so it was a very difficult process.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: In case you're wondering what happens after Kaitlin Armstrong is
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: apprehended in Costa Rica and extradited.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Home, well.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: Ken a Leopard ever changed their spots listen.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: Kaitlyn Armstrong has been locked up in the Travis County
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Correction Complex since she was brought back from Costa Rica,
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: But she didn't just sit in her sell and gain weight.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Kaitlin Armstrong decided to take advantage of the time she
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: had in county by working out a lot. Just weeks
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: before her trial was set to start, Armstrong claimed to
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: have an injury and she was allowed to go to
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: an outside medical appointment Armstrong requested that leg restraints not
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: be used on her, and that was granted. Armstrong was
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: escorted to her appointment by two deputies, and when the
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: office visit was over, as she was headed back to
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: the car to go back to jail, Kaitlin Armstrong took
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: off running. The deputies gave chase.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: That's right, Kaitlin Armstrong actually running. She faked a doctor's
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: appointment and makes an escape attempt.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: Some things never change.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Caitlin Armstrong convicted in the murder of Mariah and.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: I advise whatever CI is holding her now keep a
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: watch on her.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Nancy Grace signing off, goodbye friend.